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Average Guess (667 Votes)
Peak: 6ft 7.86in (202.9cm)
Current: 6ft 6.91in (200.4cm)
Peak: 6ft 7.86in (202.9cm)
Current: 6ft 6.91in (200.4cm)
Clay said on 14/Jun/11
Legend says on 13/Jun/11
He never benched over 500 raw in his life. Guarantee it.
I guarantee you the 6'8 310 pound opf virtually all muscle behemoth has.
Does it make you feel better about your sad self chopping celebs down? Seriously..
Legend says on 13/Jun/11
He never benched over 500 raw in his life. Guarantee it.
I guarantee you the 6'8 310 pound opf virtually all muscle behemoth has.
Does it make you feel better about your sad self chopping celebs down? Seriously..
Legend said on 13/Jun/11
He never benched over 500 raw in his life. Guarantee it.
He never benched over 500 raw in his life. Guarantee it.
Ray said on 13/Jun/11
DFens: That's because Undertaker is taller by a little.
DFens: That's because Undertaker is taller by a little.
sid said on 12/Jun/11
d wade I didn't say kane can bench press 535 for 10, he maxes out at 535 now, used to be 650 back in the days, till he tore his bicep
d wade I didn't say kane can bench press 535 for 10, he maxes out at 535 now, used to be 650 back in the days, till he tore his bicep
Mamun said on 12/Jun/11
The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich ! Sorry for my earlier post bro ! I didn't know that was your real name !
Regards
SUPERMUN
The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich ! Sorry for my earlier post bro ! I didn't know that was your real name !
Regards
SUPERMUN
Da Man said on 11/Jun/11
DFens, no he really didn't, and it's pretty obvious Taker wasn't taller when they held up their belts.
DFens, no he really didn't, and it's pretty obvious Taker wasn't taller when they held up their belts.
Mamun said on 11/Jun/11
Yes and 10 reps all the way down ! And that he said he wasn't afraid of any body on a one on one fight ; Not even Paul Wight or a Royal Bangal Tiger !
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SUPERMUN
Yes and 10 reps all the way down ! And that he said he wasn't afraid of any body on a one on one fight ; Not even Paul Wight or a Royal Bangal Tiger !
Regards
SUPERMUN
The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich said on 11/Jun/11
My birth name is BigTuna FishSandwich. I am THE BIG TUNA!!!
My birth name is BigTuna FishSandwich. I am THE BIG TUNA!!!
sid said on 10/Jun/11
d wade Prime kane can bench press 650, no he benches 535, he told mamun that he benches 535 over 500
d wade Prime kane can bench press 650, no he benches 535, he told mamun that he benches 535 over 500
Mamun said on 10/Jun/11
Your right Clay ! I do recomend Tuna Fish to people who are BodyBuilding !
Regards
SUPERMUN
Your right Clay ! I do recomend Tuna Fish to people who are BodyBuilding !
Regards
SUPERMUN
Alex said on 10/Jun/11
I dont know about Kane today but back then I am sure he could bench 500 or a bit more. Today he can probably put up over 405 still.
I dont know about Kane today but back then I am sure he could bench 500 or a bit more. Today he can probably put up over 405 still.
Mamun said on 9/Jun/11
Hey , The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich ! Hope you are not offended by my post ! You know very well I was joking right ?
Regards
SUPERMUN
Hey , The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich ! Hope you are not offended by my post ! You know very well I was joking right ?
Regards
SUPERMUN
Clay said on 8/Jun/11
I hate the taste of tuna fish but I love the protein to calorie ratio Mamun!
I hate the taste of tuna fish but I love the protein to calorie ratio Mamun!
d wade said on 8/Jun/11
lol at kane bench press 650 he can bench max 500 but even that i doubt i dont think that he can bench over 450 lbs.
lol at kane bench press 650 he can bench max 500 but even that i doubt i dont think that he can bench over 450 lbs.
Mamun said on 8/Jun/11
I think it is high time now for celebheights to have a contests as to who has the wierdest name here ! The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich !!! Why do you like being called Tuna fish sandwich ???? I hate Tuna fish ! Why don't you name yourself
CheeseSteek Sandwich ( my most favourite ) ?
Regards
SU[PERMUN
I think it is high time now for celebheights to have a contests as to who has the wierdest name here ! The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich !!! Why do you like being called Tuna fish sandwich ???? I hate Tuna fish ! Why don't you name yourself
CheeseSteek Sandwich ( my most favourite ) ?
Regards
SU[PERMUN
The Big Tuna Fish Sandwich said on 6/Jun/11
The guy is huge, im sure he could press 650, im 5'9" 195lbs and can bench 320
his arm alone is the size of my whole body
The guy is huge, im sure he could press 650, im 5'9" 195lbs and can bench 320
his arm alone is the size of my whole body
Dylan said on 6/Jun/11
Kane you should not lose I your biggest fan and undertakers so
Kane you should not lose I your biggest fan and undertakers so
Alex said on 6/Jun/11
Kane I heard would put up 405lbs on the flat bench for easy reps of 10 or so which would result in around a 500-510lb max but no way 650.
Kane I heard would put up 405lbs on the flat bench for easy reps of 10 or so which would result in around a 500-510lb max but no way 650.
james hakwes said on 5/Jun/11
even if he isnt 7ft 6ft10.5 or 6ft 7 are tall heights
im 13 and have always been a fan of kane
at the moment im 5 ft 9 when im older i should be between the heights of
5 ft 11 - 6 ft 4 im hoping i will just be 6 ft 1 or 2
even if he isnt 7ft 6ft10.5 or 6ft 7 are tall heights
im 13 and have always been a fan of kane
at the moment im 5 ft 9 when im older i should be between the heights of
5 ft 11 - 6 ft 4 im hoping i will just be 6 ft 1 or 2
Nishanth Hegde said on 5/Jun/11
NCL says on 1/Jun/11
Da Man says on 1/Jun/11
Does anyone really think the wrestling business is going to take a guy who was listed @ 6'8" in college sports and bill him less than that? I think the chance of that is just about zero. I've never seen Jacobs listed at 6'7" as a wrestler, he was billed 6'9" as Yankem.
I agree, I think the 6'7" billing is a myth. He was billed 6'7" for Pro Wrestling Magazine - a wrestling magazine for those not familiar. I used to read it and I loved the magazine but their billings were bizarre and all over the place. 'Taker 6'9", Kane 6'7", Viscera 6'10", Snitsky 6'10" (seriously), goes on and on :>)
I have seen Undertaker tower over Snitsky LOL
NCL says on 1/Jun/11
Da Man says on 1/Jun/11
Does anyone really think the wrestling business is going to take a guy who was listed @ 6'8" in college sports and bill him less than that? I think the chance of that is just about zero. I've never seen Jacobs listed at 6'7" as a wrestler, he was billed 6'9" as Yankem.
I agree, I think the 6'7" billing is a myth. He was billed 6'7" for Pro Wrestling Magazine - a wrestling magazine for those not familiar. I used to read it and I loved the magazine but their billings were bizarre and all over the place. 'Taker 6'9", Kane 6'7", Viscera 6'10", Snitsky 6'10" (seriously), goes on and on :>)
I have seen Undertaker tower over Snitsky LOL
dicksock said on 3/Jun/11
sid says on 1/Jun/11
Prime kane could bench press 650, didn't dave mezter the one who said that kane benched 650. Kane now benched 535 550
And Andre weighed 685lbs... Kane could never bench 650lbs. That is insane. I agree with Danimal. He's not benching over 500lbs. BTW, I can bench way over 400lbs myself, so I'm guessing I have a deeper understanding of strength than most posters on this site. As for his height, he never had more than 3" on 6'5" Goldust. So he is 6'8" max and probably closer to 6'7.5". He wore 2" lifts back in the day.
hs2011 says on 31/May/11
Danimal says on 25/May/11
He's also been given a 6'7" listing. He's not over that.
Ok, I've never seen that but I'll take your word for it. Hogan was billed 6'5" once, so I guess he was never over that.
Post evidence of his 6'5" billing. I'm calling you out. A 6'5" billing for a prime Hogan is not happening.
Clay says on 22/May/11
Abysss is also carrying WAAAAAYYYY more fat than Matt Morgan as well. If fat-mass is what impresses you then hey more power to ya.
Yeah, but his bone structure is far bigger than Matt's. Trust me man, I'm a big man myself and so are most of my friends. Plus, I used to wrestle and play football in school. I can tell this kind of stuff. Plus, I've been really close to both. Just trust me, Abyss is a legit monster. He would destroy Morgan strength wise. I think Morgan is awesome, but Abyss is "awesomer".
sid says on 1/Jun/11
Prime kane could bench press 650, didn't dave mezter the one who said that kane benched 650. Kane now benched 535 550
And Andre weighed 685lbs... Kane could never bench 650lbs. That is insane. I agree with Danimal. He's not benching over 500lbs. BTW, I can bench way over 400lbs myself, so I'm guessing I have a deeper understanding of strength than most posters on this site. As for his height, he never had more than 3" on 6'5" Goldust. So he is 6'8" max and probably closer to 6'7.5". He wore 2" lifts back in the day.
hs2011 says on 31/May/11
Danimal says on 25/May/11
He's also been given a 6'7" listing. He's not over that.
Ok, I've never seen that but I'll take your word for it. Hogan was billed 6'5" once, so I guess he was never over that.
Post evidence of his 6'5" billing. I'm calling you out. A 6'5" billing for a prime Hogan is not happening.
Clay says on 22/May/11
Abysss is also carrying WAAAAAYYYY more fat than Matt Morgan as well. If fat-mass is what impresses you then hey more power to ya.
Yeah, but his bone structure is far bigger than Matt's. Trust me man, I'm a big man myself and so are most of my friends. Plus, I used to wrestle and play football in school. I can tell this kind of stuff. Plus, I've been really close to both. Just trust me, Abyss is a legit monster. He would destroy Morgan strength wise. I think Morgan is awesome, but Abyss is "awesomer".
Danimal said on 3/Jun/11
sid says on 1/Jun/11
Prime kane could bench press 650, didn't dave mezter the one who said that kane benched 650. Kane now benched 535 550
You would be laughed off of any weightlifting/bobybuilding site. You have NO idea how heavy 650 pounds is.. Some of the strongest men in the world can't bench more than 2-3 reps on 500 pounds.
sid says on 1/Jun/11
Prime kane could bench press 650, didn't dave mezter the one who said that kane benched 650. Kane now benched 535 550
You would be laughed off of any weightlifting/bobybuilding site. You have NO idea how heavy 650 pounds is.. Some of the strongest men in the world can't bench more than 2-3 reps on 500 pounds.
Da Man said on 2/Jun/11
Vegas says, "alex riley was listed 6'3 in college football and wwe bill him at 6'2 Click Here Click Here big show was listed 7'1 in college ball and 7ft by wwe for the first 3 months in 1999 and obviously last 8 or so years, eli cottonwood was listed 7'1 in college ball and then 7ft on nxt, upped to 7'2 in fcw and back down to 7ft recently, but i have never seen jacobs listed 6'7 by an actual wrestling company, he was listed 6'7 in pro wrestling illustrated during the mid 1990s and thats where danimal read it"
If anything can be taken from this is that wrestler billings are essentially arbitrary and that the "lowest" billing ever given for a wrestler may or may not be accurate. It is bizarre that the wrestling biz which loves to inflate stats would ever undercut a sports listings though.
Vegas says, "alex riley was listed 6'3 in college football and wwe bill him at 6'2 Click Here Click Here big show was listed 7'1 in college ball and 7ft by wwe for the first 3 months in 1999 and obviously last 8 or so years, eli cottonwood was listed 7'1 in college ball and then 7ft on nxt, upped to 7'2 in fcw and back down to 7ft recently, but i have never seen jacobs listed 6'7 by an actual wrestling company, he was listed 6'7 in pro wrestling illustrated during the mid 1990s and thats where danimal read it"
If anything can be taken from this is that wrestler billings are essentially arbitrary and that the "lowest" billing ever given for a wrestler may or may not be accurate. It is bizarre that the wrestling biz which loves to inflate stats would ever undercut a sports listings though.
Mamun said on 8/Jul/09
How about posting them videos here so that we can all see !
Regards
Supermun
How about posting them videos here so that we can all see !
Regards
Supermun
sid said on 8/Jul/09
Mamun Kane miltary pressed test with no help from him...he is 280..kane miltary pressed hhh with no help..u see hhh legs didnt move..kane miltary pressed jerry lawler son who is 230 from the outside into the ring...over the top ropes...kane lift big show carried him and chucked him over the ring..
Mamun Kane miltary pressed test with no help from him...he is 280..kane miltary pressed hhh with no help..u see hhh legs didnt move..kane miltary pressed jerry lawler son who is 230 from the outside into the ring...over the top ropes...kane lift big show carried him and chucked him over the ring..
JT said on 7/Jul/09
Mamun says on 3/Jul/09
....And military press some one as tiny as Ray isn't the same as the men SID throws into the ring who are all in the 230 plus catagoery !....
No, but then throwing him 5+ rows deep into the crowd is. A WCW Big Show also military pressed Mysterio with one arm. He also military pressed larger wrestlers like Randy Savage and threw them over the top rope from outside the ring. A 1999 Big Show military pressed 320+ lb. Kane (with some help, which is almost always the case) and then threw him out of the ring. Tony Atlas legitimately pressed wrestlers in the 230+ lb. range and even larger (Hogan and a young King Kong Bundy, though these presses weren't clean).
Mamun says on 3/Jul/09
....And military press some one as tiny as Ray isn't the same as the men SID throws into the ring who are all in the 230 plus catagoery !....
No, but then throwing him 5+ rows deep into the crowd is. A WCW Big Show also military pressed Mysterio with one arm. He also military pressed larger wrestlers like Randy Savage and threw them over the top rope from outside the ring. A 1999 Big Show military pressed 320+ lb. Kane (with some help, which is almost always the case) and then threw him out of the ring. Tony Atlas legitimately pressed wrestlers in the 230+ lb. range and even larger (Hogan and a young King Kong Bundy, though these presses weren't clean).
Big Show said on 7/Jul/09
Mamun says on 3/Jul/09
Big Show never military pressed someone as big as 240 pounds like SID !
Yes he did! Try watching his matches from his WCW days or early WWE days.
Mamun says on 3/Jul/09
Big Show never military pressed someone as big as 240 pounds like SID !
Yes he did! Try watching his matches from his WCW days or early WWE days.
sid said on 5/Jul/09
Heres a recent interview saying Mark Henry himself said he can bench press over 600 pounds.. this was a few weeks back..I don't see a article on kane..so chocolate milk is a bull...he said kane max in his prime was 650..mark henry max was probably 620... theres no way kane is stronger.. heres the article.. Click Here
Heres a recent interview saying Mark Henry himself said he can bench press over 600 pounds.. this was a few weeks back..I don't see a article on kane..so chocolate milk is a bull...he said kane max in his prime was 650..mark henry max was probably 620... theres no way kane is stronger.. heres the article.. Click Here
sid said on 5/Jul/09
chocolate_milk whats this about youtube about Saihls ??? i dont see nothing..guys do you believe this guy.. 650 for kane max bench press back in his prime..??Mamum said he asked kane how much can he bench press.. kane said 535.. thats where I got it from..
chocolate_milk whats this about youtube about Saihls ??? i dont see nothing..guys do you believe this guy.. 650 for kane max bench press back in his prime..??Mamum said he asked kane how much can he bench press.. kane said 535.. thats where I got it from..
sid said on 5/Jul/09
chocolate_milk Your saying prime kane who can lift 650 is stronger then Khali today which is bench press is 600 for his max..thats what he said in a interview. Show me this interview with kane saying he can bench 650..and show me where did mezter say xane can bench 650..who was your friend who interviewed kane about his bench press.. then i'll believe you..
chocolate_milk Your saying prime kane who can lift 650 is stronger then Khali today which is bench press is 600 for his max..thats what he said in a interview. Show me this interview with kane saying he can bench 650..and show me where did mezter say xane can bench 650..who was your friend who interviewed kane about his bench press.. then i'll believe you..
sid said on 5/Jul/09
chocolate_milk Thats full of crap. your the one spewing crap man..kane benching over 600.. his max is 550 back in the days.. current probably 535...I dont see anything proof that kane benched 600 or over..Kane is naturally strong...When Kane slammed big show. big show went on his shoulders so it was easier for kane to slam show.. it was like a running power slam only still on his feet..sure kane is stronger then most super stars back then..theres no way as you said kane can bench press 600 or over.. Kane's coach said he was there when Glenn jacobs broke over 500 pound barrier. as he gotten older he gotten stronger maxed out at 550. kane tore his bicep doing bicep curls doing curls is biceps. bench press has nothing to do with biceps. chest and shoulders..i feel it on my shoulders if its too heavy..not my bicep.. I would advise what you say... 550 still a big feat..600 and over i dont see kane doing
chocolate_milk Thats full of crap. your the one spewing crap man..kane benching over 600.. his max is 550 back in the days.. current probably 535...I dont see anything proof that kane benched 600 or over..Kane is naturally strong...When Kane slammed big show. big show went on his shoulders so it was easier for kane to slam show.. it was like a running power slam only still on his feet..sure kane is stronger then most super stars back then..theres no way as you said kane can bench press 600 or over.. Kane's coach said he was there when Glenn jacobs broke over 500 pound barrier. as he gotten older he gotten stronger maxed out at 550. kane tore his bicep doing bicep curls doing curls is biceps. bench press has nothing to do with biceps. chest and shoulders..i feel it on my shoulders if its too heavy..not my bicep.. I would advise what you say... 550 still a big feat..600 and over i dont see kane doing
JT said on 4/Jul/09
here's the video of Big Show throwing Mysterio into the crowd (at around the 6:00 and 7:00 mark) Click Here
here's the video of Big Show throwing Mysterio into the crowd (at around the 6:00 and 7:00 mark) Click Here
sid said on 4/Jul/09
nick 405 is pretty good..you use any spot..you got to..anything over 200 requires a spot...thats if your a smart body builder...405 is still pretty heavy..yet alone 490 near 500 is darn heavy for me as well..i can still squeeze 2...i cut down the mega heavy weight for a month and half now..300 to 350 for more reps..
nick 405 is pretty good..you use any spot..you got to..anything over 200 requires a spot...thats if your a smart body builder...405 is still pretty heavy..yet alone 490 near 500 is darn heavy for me as well..i can still squeeze 2...i cut down the mega heavy weight for a month and half now..300 to 350 for more reps..
Roy Boy said on 3/Jul/09
Kane might be a bit stronger than Sid in the weight room, but when it goes to throwing around other wrestlers like sacks of potatoes Sid is the man! I have never seen any other wrestler show the brute strength in the ring like Sid has. Sid is truly one of a kind, and the WWE is nuts for not bringing him back yet. Oh yeah and Kane is awesome too!
Kane might be a bit stronger than Sid in the weight room, but when it goes to throwing around other wrestlers like sacks of potatoes Sid is the man! I have never seen any other wrestler show the brute strength in the ring like Sid has. Sid is truly one of a kind, and the WWE is nuts for not bringing him back yet. Oh yeah and Kane is awesome too!
Mamun said on 3/Jul/09
Thanks my friend cobra ! My friend JT after watching them SID vedios , I
found my self even more in love with SID ! A prime SID looks far more
powerful , fast and intimidating than KANE, HOGAN, UT or even BIG ShOW !
If you don't beleive me , then keep watching them vedios of SID in the
WCW days or even early WWF days ! And military press some one as tiny as
Ray isn't the same as the men SID throws into the ring who are all in the
230 plus catagoery ! Big Show never military pressed someone as big as 240 pounds like SID !
Regards
Supermun
Thanks my friend cobra ! My friend JT after watching them SID vedios , I
found my self even more in love with SID ! A prime SID looks far more
powerful , fast and intimidating than KANE, HOGAN, UT or even BIG ShOW !
If you don't beleive me , then keep watching them vedios of SID in the
WCW days or even early WWF days ! And military press some one as tiny as
Ray isn't the same as the men SID throws into the ring who are all in the
230 plus catagoery ! Big Show never military pressed someone as big as 240 pounds like SID !
Regards
Supermun
JT said on 3/Jul/09
Sid vs. another jobber - you can guess what happens: Click Here
Mamun, Big Show has also military pressed his opponents back into the ring. IIRC, there is a video of Big Show military pressing and then throwing Mysterio several rows into the audience. Mysterio's light but still probably close to 150 lbs.
Sid vs. another jobber - you can guess what happens: Click Here
Mamun, Big Show has also military pressed his opponents back into the ring. IIRC, there is a video of Big Show military pressing and then throwing Mysterio several rows into the audience. Mysterio's light but still probably close to 150 lbs.
Cobra said on 3/Jul/09
Mamun says on 2/Jul/09
On second thought I must
be really really crazy trying to find love for SID on Kane's page . I have
to put that into my small brain too !
Regards
Supermun
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Hi Mamun,
I am actually neutral, because I think both are awesome, I am not favoring anybody. But as far as my expieriences, guys with the look of Kane tend to be stronger; Sid was always pretty ripped.
I do think Sid is stronger than Triple H and also stronger than Batista though.
To bring back height back into discussion, I personally think that, taking morning height, Sid is 6ft7,5 and Kane is 6ft8,5.
I will look up a few strenght feats of Kane though.
Mamun says on 2/Jul/09
On second thought I must
be really really crazy trying to find love for SID on Kane's page . I have
to put that into my small brain too !
Regards
Supermun
_______
Hi Mamun,
I am actually neutral, because I think both are awesome, I am not favoring anybody. But as far as my expieriences, guys with the look of Kane tend to be stronger; Sid was always pretty ripped.
I do think Sid is stronger than Triple H and also stronger than Batista though.
To bring back height back into discussion, I personally think that, taking morning height, Sid is 6ft7,5 and Kane is 6ft8,5.
I will look up a few strenght feats of Kane though.
nick, said on 3/Jul/09
i weighed 225 when i did the 315 for 12. A week before i did 405for a single. Im 6'2.5 have really long arms (80 inch wingspan) so i use a wide grip. Right now i weigh 207 and cut down for the summer, havent really touched heavy weight in 3 monthes. Im still good at repping weight like 225 etc but i know its gonna take a month to get use to heavy again.
i weighed 225 when i did the 315 for 12. A week before i did 405for a single. Im 6'2.5 have really long arms (80 inch wingspan) so i use a wide grip. Right now i weigh 207 and cut down for the summer, havent really touched heavy weight in 3 monthes. Im still good at repping weight like 225 etc but i know its gonna take a month to get use to heavy again.
Yaspaa said on 3/Jul/09
Hearsay in print.
Hearsay in print.
MK said on 3/Jul/09
Marotte says on 2/Jul/09
I dont know if this has been posted beforem Click Here
The best input posted here for a LONG time.
Marotte says on 2/Jul/09
I dont know if this has been posted beforem Click Here
The best input posted here for a LONG time.
Cobra said on 2/Jul/09
I also don`t see Sid stronger than Kane. Kane`s strength was- and is still- enormous.
While Sid had some awesome military presses,
Click Here (0:55) btw who is the guy he powerbombs at 1:12,
it almost gone wrong, it seems to be a huge dude though.
and undoubtly had the better physique bodybuilding terms wise, I don`t think he was as strong as Kane.
But who cares, they are both strong mofos.
@ Mamun, why you think Sid is stronger?
Btw stronger is kinda difficult to define; but I just think Kane was stronger all over.
I also don`t see Sid stronger than Kane. Kane`s strength was- and is still- enormous.
While Sid had some awesome military presses,
Click Here (0:55) btw who is the guy he powerbombs at 1:12,
it almost gone wrong, it seems to be a huge dude though.
and undoubtly had the better physique bodybuilding terms wise, I don`t think he was as strong as Kane.
But who cares, they are both strong mofos.
@ Mamun, why you think Sid is stronger?
Btw stronger is kinda difficult to define; but I just think Kane was stronger all over.
Mamun said on 2/Jul/09
OK my good people here , I don't know too much computers but why don't we
post some vedios here of some super feats of strength of both SID & KANE
and let us decide from there !
Regards
Supermun
OK my good people here , I don't know too much computers but why don't we
post some vedios here of some super feats of strength of both SID & KANE
and let us decide from there !
Regards
Supermun
Da Man said on 2/Jul/09
Prime Kane was almost undoubtedly stronger than Sid.
Prime Kane was almost undoubtedly stronger than Sid.
Rantsrob said on 2/Jul/09
I strongly disagree a prime sid was stronger then a prime kane. Kane picked up a ligit 500lb big show carried him 1/2 the way across the ring and dump him over the top rope.
I strongly disagree a prime sid was stronger then a prime kane. Kane picked up a ligit 500lb big show carried him 1/2 the way across the ring and dump him over the top rope.
Vegas said on 2/Jul/09
sid got beat up by brian pillman one time, like batista the muscles were for show
sid got beat up by brian pillman one time, like batista the muscles were for show
sid said on 1/Jul/09
nick no it's not feesible to do shoulder presses with 200 or 250 pound dumbells, dumbell bench press i can see kane doing and sid for 200 to 250..Then your not a rookie, 315 for 12 reps is good man..im doing 350 for 12 reps...im cutting up for the summer, getting some stridations in..beach season..100 dumbell for shoulder presses for 10 to 12 depends on the days right..How much do you weigh nick at that time benching 4 plates and for how many reps..kane is stronger the psyco sid def..sid has no moves what so ever he is sloppy
nick no it's not feesible to do shoulder presses with 200 or 250 pound dumbells, dumbell bench press i can see kane doing and sid for 200 to 250..Then your not a rookie, 315 for 12 reps is good man..im doing 350 for 12 reps...im cutting up for the summer, getting some stridations in..beach season..100 dumbell for shoulder presses for 10 to 12 depends on the days right..How much do you weigh nick at that time benching 4 plates and for how many reps..kane is stronger the psyco sid def..sid has no moves what so ever he is sloppy
sid said on 1/Jul/09
Marotte I know I am me I should know myself what i do...what i look like..to make me who I am. 5ft10 250 experienced fighter who trains like a bodybuilder..I been working out since 82, martials arts since i was 6 in 75, thats me who i am..you don't believe me thats fine, your have your opinion..
Marotte I know I am me I should know myself what i do...what i look like..to make me who I am. 5ft10 250 experienced fighter who trains like a bodybuilder..I been working out since 82, martials arts since i was 6 in 75, thats me who i am..you don't believe me thats fine, your have your opinion..
sid said on 30/Jun/09
Doug I'm a beef cake, most bodybuilders are shorter then 6ft some are over. mostly shorter.
Mamum I can get someone to take a picture of me, and I can post it, should be honky dory lol..I hardly ever take picture, I'm not very photogentic.I'll see what I can do..
Doug I'm a beef cake, most bodybuilders are shorter then 6ft some are over. mostly shorter.
Mamum I can get someone to take a picture of me, and I can post it, should be honky dory lol..I hardly ever take picture, I'm not very photogentic.I'll see what I can do..
Marotte said on 30/Jun/09
Like Mamun said ... pictures speaks louder than words.
Like Mamun said ... pictures speaks louder than words.
Mamun said on 30/Jun/09
My friend sid , please post pictures of yourself !
Regards
Supermun
My friend sid , please post pictures of yourself !
Regards
Supermun
Doug said on 30/Jun/09
Ahh it seems you are a typical powerlifter type. You are 3-4 inches shorter than me but weigh 40-50 pounds heavier. 5'10.5" and 250 odd is huge!! You must be as broad as hell Sid!!! Most I've ever weighed is 225 pounds around Christmas last year and I felt too heavy even at 6'2". You must feel heavy!!
Ahh it seems you are a typical powerlifter type. You are 3-4 inches shorter than me but weigh 40-50 pounds heavier. 5'10.5" and 250 odd is huge!! You must be as broad as hell Sid!!! Most I've ever weighed is 225 pounds around Christmas last year and I felt too heavy even at 6'2". You must feel heavy!!
sid said on 29/Jun/09
Doug Way I see it is, if you got the strength then do it..right..Winter I mass up using heavy weight such as 100 pound dumbell to curl for 3to4 reps..summer time i cut the weights down to do more reps for more defintions..so i'm sorta like body building. only thing I don't comepete..im just me to keep in shape train like a body builder..I also do martial arts..i do less training of that in the winter. to keep my size on..just 40 min bag workout.i dont wanna lose too much.. your right curling 100 pounds for 4 reps isnt nearly good at 50 pounds for 12 reps..i do train like a body builder. summers I increase my martial workouts to cut up and cardio, like i said everything i do is for keeping in shape..and be ready.
Doug Way I see it is, if you got the strength then do it..right..Winter I mass up using heavy weight such as 100 pound dumbell to curl for 3to4 reps..summer time i cut the weights down to do more reps for more defintions..so i'm sorta like body building. only thing I don't comepete..im just me to keep in shape train like a body builder..I also do martial arts..i do less training of that in the winter. to keep my size on..just 40 min bag workout.i dont wanna lose too much.. your right curling 100 pounds for 4 reps isnt nearly good at 50 pounds for 12 reps..i do train like a body builder. summers I increase my martial workouts to cut up and cardio, like i said everything i do is for keeping in shape..and be ready.
sid said on 29/Jun/09
Doug I'm 5'10 maybe 5'101/2 250 to 265 winter time, today I'm 247, cutting up for the summer, getting some stridations in, after all it's beach season right. I been working out since 82 since jr high non stop, my max weight was back then was 271.. yes I know thats pretty big for a shorter guy. look at jay cutler, ronnie coleman there 5'9 290 300..my weight is usually 250..20 pounds less then i was over 20 years ago..lee priest for his size is amazing.. what is he 5'6. I never tried 500 pounds, 490 is a heap of weight to even bench, even i have troubles man i do need a spot, i get a 1 maybe 2 reps with a spot on the second..I got bad joints from lifting heavy through out the years, ware and tare..I'm pretty much big bulk with defintion.. was I always strong as a kid growing up..I had the strength..hard adding rock solid muscles..i had a fare size before i worked out..adding rock solid was hard.. taken me years to get where I am..I still got a bum rotar cuff from 20 years ago..stil work through it..call me crazy lol
Doug I'm 5'10 maybe 5'101/2 250 to 265 winter time, today I'm 247, cutting up for the summer, getting some stridations in, after all it's beach season right. I been working out since 82 since jr high non stop, my max weight was back then was 271.. yes I know thats pretty big for a shorter guy. look at jay cutler, ronnie coleman there 5'9 290 300..my weight is usually 250..20 pounds less then i was over 20 years ago..lee priest for his size is amazing.. what is he 5'6. I never tried 500 pounds, 490 is a heap of weight to even bench, even i have troubles man i do need a spot, i get a 1 maybe 2 reps with a spot on the second..I got bad joints from lifting heavy through out the years, ware and tare..I'm pretty much big bulk with defintion.. was I always strong as a kid growing up..I had the strength..hard adding rock solid muscles..i had a fare size before i worked out..adding rock solid was hard.. taken me years to get where I am..I still got a bum rotar cuff from 20 years ago..stil work through it..call me crazy lol
unknown said on 29/Jun/09
Everybody needs to understand also that wrestlers are on the road and don't have the chance to live the normal life style we do...they're on the road I heard 200 plus or more days a year. If they could focuss on dieting and training and being at a reg. job, we'd see some serious lifts. They're not focussed on strength and do enough to maintain what they need to!Some of them are some genetic freaks lol! Well never know Peace
Everybody needs to understand also that wrestlers are on the road and don't have the chance to live the normal life style we do...they're on the road I heard 200 plus or more days a year. If they could focuss on dieting and training and being at a reg. job, we'd see some serious lifts. They're not focussed on strength and do enough to maintain what they need to!Some of them are some genetic freaks lol! Well never know Peace
Cobra said on 29/Jun/09
Clay says on 28/Jun/09
Cobra why on earth would he put fake plates on? LOL. He benched 600 pounds once, get over it.
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He even admitted it in a radio interview later on.
I did shoulder presses with 2x 50 lbs dumbells for 12 reps, and good form.
But shoulder presses and bench presses are my strong point.
Clay says on 28/Jun/09
Cobra why on earth would he put fake plates on? LOL. He benched 600 pounds once, get over it.
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He even admitted it in a radio interview later on.
I did shoulder presses with 2x 50 lbs dumbells for 12 reps, and good form.
But shoulder presses and bench presses are my strong point.
Doug said on 29/Jun/09
You're probably a lot bigger than I am Sid if you can bench nearly 500lbs. What is your height and weight?
You're probably a lot bigger than I am Sid if you can bench nearly 500lbs. What is your height and weight?
Doug said on 29/Jun/09
No 50lbs is not heavy if you just lift it a couple of times. I'm talking about if you sets of 50 like I do with 30lb weights. Try lifting a 50lb dumbell 50 times and then repating it again and again. I've been working out for 10-11 years sid. I'm no where near the size of Kane but I'm around 6'2" and 215 pounds, not small and I lift in moderation but focus on endurance.
No 50lbs is not heavy if you just lift it a couple of times. I'm talking about if you sets of 50 like I do with 30lb weights. Try lifting a 50lb dumbell 50 times and then repating it again and again. I've been working out for 10-11 years sid. I'm no where near the size of Kane but I'm around 6'2" and 215 pounds, not small and I lift in moderation but focus on endurance.
Doug said on 29/Jun/09
"Batista said he cut the weight, and do more reps". Wise choice. I just think its best to find balance between doing a considerable amount of reps and lifting a decent weight. If the weight is so high that you can only do a handful of reps and you might strain yourself that tells me you should lower the weight and focus on muscle endurance.
"Batista said he cut the weight, and do more reps". Wise choice. I just think its best to find balance between doing a considerable amount of reps and lifting a decent weight. If the weight is so high that you can only do a handful of reps and you might strain yourself that tells me you should lower the weight and focus on muscle endurance.
Doug said on 29/Jun/09
Can I just ask what is the point of using a 100 pound dumbell and only doing 3-4 reps sid? I find the heavier weights are likely to strain your weaker lower arms and work less on the bicep muscle. I use much less weights and no way for reps so I don't strain the muscle but exhaust it, building muscle tissue. It works very well for me and I know other bodybuilders who use less weighs but are more focused on muscle endurance. I bet any money that 100 reps of a 30lb dumbell will be many times more beneficial than lifting a 100lb dumbell 3 or 4 times just to prove how macho you are. I'm not at all impressed by how much people can lift. Rather I'm more impressed by endurance and how long athletes/bodybuilders can maintain and how many reps they can do.
Can I just ask what is the point of using a 100 pound dumbell and only doing 3-4 reps sid? I find the heavier weights are likely to strain your weaker lower arms and work less on the bicep muscle. I use much less weights and no way for reps so I don't strain the muscle but exhaust it, building muscle tissue. It works very well for me and I know other bodybuilders who use less weighs but are more focused on muscle endurance. I bet any money that 100 reps of a 30lb dumbell will be many times more beneficial than lifting a 100lb dumbell 3 or 4 times just to prove how macho you are. I'm not at all impressed by how much people can lift. Rather I'm more impressed by endurance and how long athletes/bodybuilders can maintain and how many reps they can do.
Lmeister said on 29/Jun/09
Clay, the strongest guys I know are around 6ft.
Clay, the strongest guys I know are around 6ft.
Clay said on 28/Jun/09
Cobra why on earth would he put fake plates on? LOL. He benched 600 pounds once, get over it.
Cobra why on earth would he put fake plates on? LOL. He benched 600 pounds once, get over it.
sid said on 28/Jun/09
Doug I curl 100 pound dumbell with good 3 to 4 reps, with alright form... I can shoulder press 140's for a good 1 maybe 2 depends on the days..i normally don't do that 140 pound dumbell is alot yes your right, I been working out since 82..I got the experience snd the strength..to lift that much weights..I seen bodybuilder curl 120 pound, it was on a video...I think it was 110 or 120..If I can find the video I will post it.. 30 pounds is just my warm up. 50 pounds ain't heavy if you been working out for along time..No your wrong about a wrestler..batista said he cut the weight, and do more reps...reason why he keeps getting hurt is, he has too much muscles...kane probably maxed out at 535, maybe 550, not 600..My max is 490 bench press, since it's the summer, I'm down to 300 to 350 for more reps..it's the summer it's the beach season so get so stridations in..be happy lol
Doug I curl 100 pound dumbell with good 3 to 4 reps, with alright form... I can shoulder press 140's for a good 1 maybe 2 depends on the days..i normally don't do that 140 pound dumbell is alot yes your right, I been working out since 82..I got the experience snd the strength..to lift that much weights..I seen bodybuilder curl 120 pound, it was on a video...I think it was 110 or 120..If I can find the video I will post it.. 30 pounds is just my warm up. 50 pounds ain't heavy if you been working out for along time..No your wrong about a wrestler..batista said he cut the weight, and do more reps...reason why he keeps getting hurt is, he has too much muscles...kane probably maxed out at 535, maybe 550, not 600..My max is 490 bench press, since it's the summer, I'm down to 300 to 350 for more reps..it's the summer it's the beach season so get so stridations in..be happy lol
Danimal said on 28/Jun/09
sid says on 27/Jun/09
nick your a rookie, I can easily press 100 pound dumbell for 10-11 on a good day.. 150 is feesible. 250, coleman had 200 pound dumbells and 220 i think i cant remember..or a even number...i can see sid, and kane bench press dumbell 200 pounds, not shoulders
You are so full of @#@$@$
sid says on 27/Jun/09
nick your a rookie, I can easily press 100 pound dumbell for 10-11 on a good day.. 150 is feesible. 250, coleman had 200 pound dumbells and 220 i think i cant remember..or a even number...i can see sid, and kane bench press dumbell 200 pounds, not shoulders
You are so full of @#@$@$
Yaspaa said on 28/Jun/09
Sid,I'm not denying the fact that it was a huge lift but if you are going to do something do it right.
Sid,I'm not denying the fact that it was a huge lift but if you are going to do something do it right.
Doug said on 28/Jun/09
I regularly train with 30 pounds. I've just tried to put more on and my dumb bell bar is not long enough to fit more weights on. The 10lb weights I have for the barbell looks huge on the dumbell. I reckon I could lift about 70lbs MAX, 100lbs or more you'd have to be built like the worlds strongest man, no kidding. Granted Kane is but I seriously doubt he does anything more than 150. He could probably bench press 500lbs which any body builder here knows is very extreme but 600lbs is ridiculous. Personally I don't think power lifitng the heaviest weights is good for you. I tend to train with lesser weights and do more reps as I want to keep a balance. As a wrestler though, the heavier the better it seems.
I regularly train with 30 pounds. I've just tried to put more on and my dumb bell bar is not long enough to fit more weights on. The 10lb weights I have for the barbell looks huge on the dumbell. I reckon I could lift about 70lbs MAX, 100lbs or more you'd have to be built like the worlds strongest man, no kidding. Granted Kane is but I seriously doubt he does anything more than 150. He could probably bench press 500lbs which any body builder here knows is very extreme but 600lbs is ridiculous. Personally I don't think power lifitng the heaviest weights is good for you. I tend to train with lesser weights and do more reps as I want to keep a balance. As a wrestler though, the heavier the better it seems.
Doug said on 28/Jun/09
Agree with nick, even 150lb dumbells are very extreme. Anything over 100lbs for bicep curls is crazy.
Agree with nick, even 150lb dumbells are very extreme. Anything over 100lbs for bicep curls is crazy.
Doug said on 28/Jun/09
100lb dumbells? 250lb dumbell? Does anybody realise the strain that would put on your sockets? Trust me even 50lbs is a serious dumbell weight if repeated in sets of 20. 50lb dumbells if used in the right way will build serious muscle. Even 50lb is dang heavy. 250lb is absurd on one arm, I don't believe it. I can believe 100lbs bicep curls which as Alex said is a serious weight for dumbells.
100lb dumbells? 250lb dumbell? Does anybody realise the strain that would put on your sockets? Trust me even 50lbs is a serious dumbell weight if repeated in sets of 20. 50lb dumbells if used in the right way will build serious muscle. Even 50lb is dang heavy. 250lb is absurd on one arm, I don't believe it. I can believe 100lbs bicep curls which as Alex said is a serious weight for dumbells.
sid said on 28/Jun/09
Yaspaa It may not be a clean press, whether or not he still pressed it, thats a big feat to do...
Yaspaa It may not be a clean press, whether or not he still pressed it, thats a big feat to do...
Yaspaa said on 28/Jun/09
I dont know anything about fake plates on Abbott's press but the press itself was bogus,the barbell bounced of his chest,you're supposed to stop and then press.
I dont know anything about fake plates on Abbott's press but the press itself was bogus,the barbell bounced of his chest,you're supposed to stop and then press.
sid said on 28/Jun/09
Cobra Why he tank abbot put on fake plates, I'm pretty sure its 600 fake plates.there are 200 pounds and over dumbells..not around much, unless your at a gym gym not a club, but rare.
Cobra Why he tank abbot put on fake plates, I'm pretty sure its 600 fake plates.there are 200 pounds and over dumbells..not around much, unless your at a gym gym not a club, but rare.
Cobra said on 27/Jun/09
Regarding Sid and 250 lbs dumbell presses, I think it was meant to say 125 lbs pro dumbell. This is an awesome performance though if this is his training weight.
Btw people are exaggerating all over the place... so when you come with real numbers, the real ones aren`t as impressing as they should be... Abott didn`t pressed 600 pounds, it were 400. Not all the plates were for real.
Like 400 lbs is a weight were you have to be ashamed, LOL.
Kane def. benched over 500 lbs, 550 lbs could very well be true.
As far as I know he has been witnessed to bench 405 lbs for 10 full reps, which is extremely powerful. Arnold did 8 with 400 lbs by the way.
Regarding Sid and 250 lbs dumbell presses, I think it was meant to say 125 lbs pro dumbell. This is an awesome performance though if this is his training weight.
Btw people are exaggerating all over the place... so when you come with real numbers, the real ones aren`t as impressing as they should be... Abott didn`t pressed 600 pounds, it were 400. Not all the plates were for real.
Like 400 lbs is a weight were you have to be ashamed, LOL.
Kane def. benched over 500 lbs, 550 lbs could very well be true.
As far as I know he has been witnessed to bench 405 lbs for 10 full reps, which is extremely powerful. Arnold did 8 with 400 lbs by the way.
sid said on 27/Jun/09
nick your a rookie, I can easily press 100 pound dumbell for 10-11 on a good day.. 150 is feesible. 250, coleman had 200 pound dumbells and 220 i think i cant remember..or a even number...i can see sid, and kane bench press dumbell 200 pounds, not shoulders
nick your a rookie, I can easily press 100 pound dumbell for 10-11 on a good day.. 150 is feesible. 250, coleman had 200 pound dumbells and 220 i think i cant remember..or a even number...i can see sid, and kane bench press dumbell 200 pounds, not shoulders
Da Man said on 26/Jun/09
Sounds like a lot of the same stuff that's been said here recently.
Sounds like a lot of the same stuff that's been said here recently.
nick, said on 26/Jun/09
sid, i meant for sid 150's are more plausable for a shoulder press not in the world. levrone shoulder pressed that on a smith with a spot,. were talking dumbells here and a pro wreslter that is in no league with the strongest men in the world. 250lbs dumbells? on a shoulder press?, get the hell out of here, they dont make 250's number 1, dumbells press is going to be seated so its strict and the world record press on a barbell that is strict is 475 so its out of the question. I can military press 225 for 10 reps seated military going to my chin. and i have trouble handling 100 lbs dumbells for a set of 5.
sid, i meant for sid 150's are more plausable for a shoulder press not in the world. levrone shoulder pressed that on a smith with a spot,. were talking dumbells here and a pro wreslter that is in no league with the strongest men in the world. 250lbs dumbells? on a shoulder press?, get the hell out of here, they dont make 250's number 1, dumbells press is going to be seated so its strict and the world record press on a barbell that is strict is 475 so its out of the question. I can military press 225 for 10 reps seated military going to my chin. and i have trouble handling 100 lbs dumbells for a set of 5.
chocolate_milk said on 26/Jun/09
I just noticed the link on my first comment doesn't work. go to youtube. Type in kane vs big show 2002 and click the one which was uploaded by Sidann.
I just noticed the link on my first comment doesn't work. go to youtube. Type in kane vs big show 2002 and click the one which was uploaded by Sidann.
sid said on 26/Jun/09
nick your wrong, kevin levrone shoulder pressed 400 500 pounds on the smith machine, like at the size at his shoulders, go check on you tube, the video is called maryland muscle machine..he curls 100 pounds...I do agree with you 250 is a bit of a stretch...espically shoulder pressing.. i can see sid and kane do 200 250 pound dumbell presses....
nick your wrong, kevin levrone shoulder pressed 400 500 pounds on the smith machine, like at the size at his shoulders, go check on you tube, the video is called maryland muscle machine..he curls 100 pounds...I do agree with you 250 is a bit of a stretch...espically shoulder pressing.. i can see sid and kane do 200 250 pound dumbell presses....
chocolate_milk said on 26/Jun/09
Also, one more thing. Kane can bench 535 - 550 pounds as his current max. If he underwent major bicep surgery (remember that he ripped his bicep), that will for sure decrease his strength. Sid said that back in the day kane could bench 550 pounds and that now he can bench 535 pounds. Let me get this straight sid, kane is 15 pounds weaker on the bench press after receiving bicep surgery? You have to rethink your comments. He obviously could do more than 550 in the past if his max is 535 now after bicep surgery. This is just one more piece of evidence as to why kane probably was in the 600's when it came to maxing out on the bench press. You also have to consider that he has lifted so many heavy guys with ease in his career (slamming khali. This slam was also a special one, if you watched that match, you notice that khali doesn't assist kane with the slam, his legs were perfectly still, he didn't get on to kane's shoulders or lift one of his legs up so kane could lift khali easier, kane slammed khali all on his own in scoop slam position, which requires freakish strength. He has also slammed big show and lifted big show so many times.
Also, one more thing. Kane can bench 535 - 550 pounds as his current max. If he underwent major bicep surgery (remember that he ripped his bicep), that will for sure decrease his strength. Sid said that back in the day kane could bench 550 pounds and that now he can bench 535 pounds. Let me get this straight sid, kane is 15 pounds weaker on the bench press after receiving bicep surgery? You have to rethink your comments. He obviously could do more than 550 in the past if his max is 535 now after bicep surgery. This is just one more piece of evidence as to why kane probably was in the 600's when it came to maxing out on the bench press. You also have to consider that he has lifted so many heavy guys with ease in his career (slamming khali. This slam was also a special one, if you watched that match, you notice that khali doesn't assist kane with the slam, his legs were perfectly still, he didn't get on to kane's shoulders or lift one of his legs up so kane could lift khali easier, kane slammed khali all on his own in scoop slam position, which requires freakish strength. He has also slammed big show and lifted big show so many times.
chocolate_milk said on 26/Jun/09
Ok first of all, my comment at least has some validity and it doesn't just spew out crap without backing it up like yours did Sid. The only reasonable and true thing that you have said is that kane is in shape and can currently bench 535 pounds as his max. Second, go to this youtube page
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Go through the first 12 pages and ONLY READ "SAIHLS" comments, NO ONE ELSES, JUST SAIHLS. He accordingly has some friends who did something like an interview with him, where kane expressed that he can currently do 535 for his mask and as well in the past has done 405 X 12 on the bench press (mick foley and some other pro wrestlers saw him do that). 650 pounds according to Saihls, has been confirmed by Meltzers track record (Meltzer kane's coach or trainer I think).
Ok first of all, my comment at least has some validity and it doesn't just spew out crap without backing it up like yours did Sid. The only reasonable and true thing that you have said is that kane is in shape and can currently bench 535 pounds as his max. Second, go to this youtube page
Click Here
Go through the first 12 pages and ONLY READ "SAIHLS" comments, NO ONE ELSES, JUST SAIHLS. He accordingly has some friends who did something like an interview with him, where kane expressed that he can currently do 535 for his mask and as well in the past has done 405 X 12 on the bench press (mick foley and some other pro wrestlers saw him do that). 650 pounds according to Saihls, has been confirmed by Meltzers track record (Meltzer kane's coach or trainer I think).
Electric said on 26/Jun/09
Kane's max bench is DEFINITELY between 500-585 or so. I can't see him benching any less than 500, but he's definitely not breaking 600.
Kane's max bench is DEFINITELY between 500-585 or so. I can't see him benching any less than 500, but he's definitely not breaking 600.
nick, said on 26/Jun/09
sorry manum, 250 pound dumbells are impossible to press at a shoulder press position. No one has ever even shoulder pressed 500 lbs strict ever. Maybe 150lbs dumbells and thats even hard to believe
sorry manum, 250 pound dumbells are impossible to press at a shoulder press position. No one has ever even shoulder pressed 500 lbs strict ever. Maybe 150lbs dumbells and thats even hard to believe
Clay said on 25/Jun/09
Lmeister, are they tall guys that do the curls with 100's? The longer the arms the easier it si to do bicep curls. And you gotta wonder what their form is like...Arnold only did his curls with 60's, yet he has larger biceps than anyone else in his gym and they were doing more than him...he couldn't help but laugh at their terrible form.
Lmeister, are they tall guys that do the curls with 100's? The longer the arms the easier it si to do bicep curls. And you gotta wonder what their form is like...Arnold only did his curls with 60's, yet he has larger biceps than anyone else in his gym and they were doing more than him...he couldn't help but laugh at their terrible form.
Da Man said on 25/Jun/09
Clay says on 24/Jun/09
"Kane maxing out at 650 isnt too hard to believe. Tank Abbott maxed out at 600 (its on youtube) and if you look at their frame sizes Kane is a much larger man than Tank Abbot."
There's a big difference though, Kane is 6'8"-ish while Tank is stocky, short armed 5'11" guy. The squatty types just seem better suited to benching big weights. But yes, Kane is a much larger man and likely far stronger than Tank functionally.
Clay says on 24/Jun/09
"Kane maxing out at 650 isnt too hard to believe. Tank Abbott maxed out at 600 (its on youtube) and if you look at their frame sizes Kane is a much larger man than Tank Abbot."
There's a big difference though, Kane is 6'8"-ish while Tank is stocky, short armed 5'11" guy. The squatty types just seem better suited to benching big weights. But yes, Kane is a much larger man and likely far stronger than Tank functionally.
Lmeister said on 25/Jun/09
100lbs is lot, but not impossible I know at least a few guys who can do curls with 100lbs dumbells and they are big guys, but not massive freaks. To be able to do curls with 60-80lbs you gotta have decent muscles, but not bulked up.
100lbs is lot, but not impossible I know at least a few guys who can do curls with 100lbs dumbells and they are big guys, but not massive freaks. To be able to do curls with 60-80lbs you gotta have decent muscles, but not bulked up.
sid said on 25/Jun/09
drk Not me who said it man, someone said, that doesnt mean we have to believe him..There are 200 pound dumb bell, ronnie coleman ordered them,,,,I seen 200 pound dumb bell, not at a club, in a actual grm..no kane easily reps 100 pound curls...read between the lines, someone said kane had lift 200 pound dumb bell.. not curls.. big diff..200 plus 200 is 400, if kane bench 405 repping it on a straight bar..he can dumbbell press 200 pound dumbeless...not curls, yes there around.. only in real gyms.. very rare to
drk Not me who said it man, someone said, that doesnt mean we have to believe him..There are 200 pound dumb bell, ronnie coleman ordered them,,,,I seen 200 pound dumb bell, not at a club, in a actual grm..no kane easily reps 100 pound curls...read between the lines, someone said kane had lift 200 pound dumb bell.. not curls.. big diff..200 plus 200 is 400, if kane bench 405 repping it on a straight bar..he can dumbbell press 200 pound dumbeless...not curls, yes there around.. only in real gyms.. very rare to
sid said on 25/Jun/09
Alex I been working out since 82...Yes it is freakish strength..lee priest he's shorter and smaller then me.. he dumbell curls 100 pounds.. I know 3 people including myself does it, not with great form..maybe a good 3 reps maybe 4
Alex I been working out since 82...Yes it is freakish strength..lee priest he's shorter and smaller then me.. he dumbell curls 100 pounds.. I know 3 people including myself does it, not with great form..maybe a good 3 reps maybe 4
Rantsrob said on 24/Jun/09
In undertakers dvd, He stated kane was one of the strongest men ever to work in the wwe.
In undertakers dvd, He stated kane was one of the strongest men ever to work in the wwe.
Clay said on 24/Jun/09
Kane maxing out at 650 isnt too hard to believe. Tank Abbott maxed out at 600 (its on youtube) and if you look at their frame sizes Kane is a much larger man than Tank Abbot.
100 pound bicep curls is HUGE if you're using proper form. Thats like...freakish strength.
Kane maxing out at 650 isnt too hard to believe. Tank Abbott maxed out at 600 (its on youtube) and if you look at their frame sizes Kane is a much larger man than Tank Abbot.
100 pound bicep curls is HUGE if you're using proper form. Thats like...freakish strength.
Clay said on 24/Jun/09
Kane maxing out at 650 isnt too hard to believe. Tank Abbott maxed out at 600 (its on youtube) and if you look at their frame sizes Kane is amuch larger man than T
Kane maxing out at 650 isnt too hard to believe. Tank Abbott maxed out at 600 (its on youtube) and if you look at their frame sizes Kane is amuch larger man than T
Alex said on 24/Jun/09
100lb dumbells is a lot, trust me. Majority of guys aint doing close to that much. I can do 60s for 6 reps and I find that to be good. I could probably max out with 70s but no more than that.
Coleman was doing 160lb dumbells on shoulder press which is harder than any chest dumbell press whether its flat, incline or decline.
100lb dumbells is a lot, trust me. Majority of guys aint doing close to that much. I can do 60s for 6 reps and I find that to be good. I could probably max out with 70s but no more than that.
Coleman was doing 160lb dumbells on shoulder press which is harder than any chest dumbell press whether its flat, incline or decline.
CaptainSpaulding said on 24/Jun/09
100 lb dumbells are very heavy. My dad could bench 400 lbs when he was younger and a 100 lb dumbell was the heaviest he could curl with 1 arm.
Btw the Bighow can bench 675 lbs, and hes alot stronger then Kane so Kane coudnt do 650.
100 lb dumbells are very heavy. My dad could bench 400 lbs when he was younger and a 100 lb dumbell was the heaviest he could curl with 1 arm.
Btw the Bighow can bench 675 lbs, and hes alot stronger then Kane so Kane coudnt do 650.
drk said on 24/Jun/09
sid says on 23/Jun/09
Alex Not that hard to lift 100 pounds, At my gym I know atleast 4 people including me who can curl 100 pounds, max out somewhere around 3 to 4..kane can rep probably 10 to 12, since he's stronger then us..he can probably curl 120 or little more..someone did say kane was impressive in the gym I wouldnt doubt it...I see max 550 in his prime, today 500 to 535, which is still heavy...I just remember someone said kane can lift 200 pound dumbell which he probably can, if he is repping 405 for bench press 12 times, he can easily lift 200 pounds dumbells which makes 400 makes, he can rep those..200 pound dumbell won't be found in a club, at a oldschool gym....Kane works out more then any wwe superstar..him and batista probably works out the most
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You obviously lying. 200lb dumbbell curl?? The top strongmen can MAYBE cheat-swing curl 160lb. Bill Kazmaier... one of earth strongest ever had a cheat 440lb barbell curl, so Kane is not easily doing reps with 200lb dumbbells like you say, and you aren't doing reps with 100lb either, for that matter. The fact you think he can shows you're just lying here and trying to make yourself sound like a big man on the internetz.
sid says on 23/Jun/09
Alex Not that hard to lift 100 pounds, At my gym I know atleast 4 people including me who can curl 100 pounds, max out somewhere around 3 to 4..kane can rep probably 10 to 12, since he's stronger then us..he can probably curl 120 or little more..someone did say kane was impressive in the gym I wouldnt doubt it...I see max 550 in his prime, today 500 to 535, which is still heavy...I just remember someone said kane can lift 200 pound dumbell which he probably can, if he is repping 405 for bench press 12 times, he can easily lift 200 pounds dumbells which makes 400 makes, he can rep those..200 pound dumbell won't be found in a club, at a oldschool gym....Kane works out more then any wwe superstar..him and batista probably works out the most
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You obviously lying. 200lb dumbbell curl?? The top strongmen can MAYBE cheat-swing curl 160lb. Bill Kazmaier... one of earth strongest ever had a cheat 440lb barbell curl, so Kane is not easily doing reps with 200lb dumbbells like you say, and you aren't doing reps with 100lb either, for that matter. The fact you think he can shows you're just lying here and trying to make yourself sound like a big man on the internetz.
sid said on 23/Jun/09
Alex Not that hard to lift 100 pounds, At my gym I know atleast 4 people including me who can curl 100 pounds, max out somewhere around 3 to 4..kane can rep probably 10 to 12, since he's stronger then us..he can probably curl 120 or little more..someone did say kane was impressive in the gym I wouldnt doubt it...I see max 550 in his prime, today 500 to 535, which is still heavy...I just remember someone said kane can lift 200 pound dumbell which he probably can, if he is repping 405 for bench press 12 times, he can easily lift 200 pounds dumbells which makes 400 makes, he can rep those..200 pound dumbell won't be found in a club, at a oldschool gym....Kane works out more then any wwe superstar..him and batista probably works out the most
Alex Not that hard to lift 100 pounds, At my gym I know atleast 4 people including me who can curl 100 pounds, max out somewhere around 3 to 4..kane can rep probably 10 to 12, since he's stronger then us..he can probably curl 120 or little more..someone did say kane was impressive in the gym I wouldnt doubt it...I see max 550 in his prime, today 500 to 535, which is still heavy...I just remember someone said kane can lift 200 pound dumbell which he probably can, if he is repping 405 for bench press 12 times, he can easily lift 200 pounds dumbells which makes 400 makes, he can rep those..200 pound dumbell won't be found in a club, at a oldschool gym....Kane works out more then any wwe superstar..him and batista probably works out the most
sid said on 23/Jun/09
Alex 100 pound dumbell to kane is nothing, I can curl 100 pound dumbell no problem...I heard kane tore his bicep doing bicep curls, over 100 pounds.i think undertaker said that in a interview long ways back...someone said kane was impressive in the gym. kane's been outed as lifting 200 pound dumbell i can't remember where who said it, they don't make 200 pound dumbell unless your ronnie colemen...he gets them order, i remember someone said he presses or lifted 200 pound dumbell. 100 pounds isnt that much, kane can easily curl 100 pounds I can see that or perhaps more, I max out at 100 pounds curls at 4 reps, kane can probably rep, again i read this somewhere ways back, i don't know if this true or not...
Alex 100 pound dumbell to kane is nothing, I can curl 100 pound dumbell no problem...I heard kane tore his bicep doing bicep curls, over 100 pounds.i think undertaker said that in a interview long ways back...someone said kane was impressive in the gym. kane's been outed as lifting 200 pound dumbell i can't remember where who said it, they don't make 200 pound dumbell unless your ronnie colemen...he gets them order, i remember someone said he presses or lifted 200 pound dumbell. 100 pounds isnt that much, kane can easily curl 100 pounds I can see that or perhaps more, I max out at 100 pounds curls at 4 reps, kane can probably rep, again i read this somewhere ways back, i don't know if this true or not...
Yaspaa said on 23/Jun/09
The raw bench press is the only one that interests me,Bruce lee was 140lbs and was curling 75lbs!! I have been skimming through older Royal Rumble events and Kane was easily larger then,I dont think his bench is anywhere near his best now. The guy who played Kurrgan is 6'10 and I was hoping to see him next to Kane in the Rumble,denied however.
The raw bench press is the only one that interests me,Bruce lee was 140lbs and was curling 75lbs!! I have been skimming through older Royal Rumble events and Kane was easily larger then,I dont think his bench is anywhere near his best now. The guy who played Kurrgan is 6'10 and I was hoping to see him next to Kane in the Rumble,denied however.
Alex said on 22/Jun/09
Sid, Kane was curling 100lb dumbells? Thats impressive.
Sid, Kane was curling 100lb dumbells? Thats impressive.
Marotte said on 22/Jun/09
Is he really only 5,9, anyway the 1050 was with a bench shirt not RAW, there`s a big difference. Scott don`t seem to be much smaller than Ryan kennelly who I thought was 6'2".
Is he really only 5,9, anyway the 1050 was with a bench shirt not RAW, there`s a big difference. Scott don`t seem to be much smaller than Ryan kennelly who I thought was 6'2".
Mamun said on 22/Jun/09
Scott Mendwlson is not 6' 1" ! He is only 5' 9" ! I have a good photo with
him too and i was there when he did a world's record of 1050 lbs and then
had the whole weight fall on his chest when he tried to break that record
at 1095 lbs a few moments latter ! The photo is already with the ROB !
Just ask him and he will show you !
Regards
Supermun
Scott Mendwlson is not 6' 1" ! He is only 5' 9" ! I have a good photo with
him too and i was there when he did a world's record of 1050 lbs and then
had the whole weight fall on his chest when he tried to break that record
at 1095 lbs a few moments latter ! The photo is already with the ROB !
Just ask him and he will show you !
Regards
Supermun
Alex said on 22/Jun/09
I can believe Kane repping 405lbs 12-15 reps which would result in a max somewhere over 500lbs.
I can believe Kane repping 405lbs 12-15 reps which would result in a max somewhere over 500lbs.
Clay said on 21/Jun/09
I could see him maxing out at 650 quite easily. Tank Abbot benched 600 for maxing out, its on youtube, and Kane is a larger man than Tank.
I could see him maxing out at 650 quite easily. Tank Abbot benched 600 for maxing out, its on youtube, and Kane is a larger man than Tank.
sid said on 21/Jun/09
chocolate_milk The ben..chocolate_milk is full of crap..no way kane can bench 660, I can see maybe 550 max in his prime...now 500 to 535..jacobs torn his bicep doing over 100 pounds curls. not from bench press..i never pulled my bicep from benching 490... anyways heres glenn jacobs doing a interview with the libery radio show, theres a picture.. if you pause it at 6:03 he has couple inches on the door..which is probably 6'6 atleast heres the link
Click Here
chocolate_milk The ben..chocolate_milk is full of crap..no way kane can bench 660, I can see maybe 550 max in his prime...now 500 to 535..jacobs torn his bicep doing over 100 pounds curls. not from bench press..i never pulled my bicep from benching 490... anyways heres glenn jacobs doing a interview with the libery radio show, theres a picture.. if you pause it at 6:03 he has couple inches on the door..which is probably 6'6 atleast heres the link
Click Here
Anonymous said on 21/Jun/09
The raw bench press world record is 715 lbs by scott mendelson and he is 6 feet 1 inches tall and weigh 310 pounds and he has a six pack no way is kane near as strong as scott mendelson 550 makes sense 650 does not, I believe kane to be 6`8 320,330 pounds.
The raw bench press world record is 715 lbs by scott mendelson and he is 6 feet 1 inches tall and weigh 310 pounds and he has a six pack no way is kane near as strong as scott mendelson 550 makes sense 650 does not, I believe kane to be 6`8 320,330 pounds.
The Ben said on 21/Jun/09
Your not likeley to rip a bicep doing bench press...its not a prime mover, just a supporting muscle...
No way 650 lbs...
Your not likeley to rip a bicep doing bench press...its not a prime mover, just a supporting muscle...
No way 650 lbs...
Jiga said on 21/Jun/09
agreed sid
agreed sid
Electric Shock said on 21/Jun/09
I'm a pretty big Kane mark, but I have a difficult time believing Kane ever benched 650. maybe 550.
I'm a pretty big Kane mark, but I have a difficult time believing Kane ever benched 650. maybe 550.
sid said on 21/Jun/09
chocolate_milk where did you hear in his shoot interviews.??? sh0w me, then i'll believe you..
chocolate_milk where did you hear in his shoot interviews.??? sh0w me, then i'll believe you..
chocolate_milk said on 21/Jun/09
kane in his prime : 650 (ripped his bicep doing that) and 405 X 10 (or 12)?
kane currently: 535 - 550 pounds
Batista has said that kane works out more than any other superstar till today
Mick foley and other wrestlers have confirmed kane benching 405 X 12 in his prime. 650 pounds in his prime and 535 - 550 today have been confirmed by kane in shoot interviews.
kane in his prime : 650 (ripped his bicep doing that) and 405 X 10 (or 12)?
kane currently: 535 - 550 pounds
Batista has said that kane works out more than any other superstar till today
Mick foley and other wrestlers have confirmed kane benching 405 X 12 in his prime. 650 pounds in his prime and 535 - 550 today have been confirmed by kane in shoot interviews.
sid said on 21/Jun/09
Pause it at 9:27.. kane standing straight with his head up.. he looks 6'9 there, thats in ring gear, barefeet 6'8..
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgptrxxqe24
Pause it at 9:27.. kane standing straight with his head up.. he looks 6'9 there, thats in ring gear, barefeet 6'8..
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgptrxxqe24
Da Man said on 10/Jun/09
Nice comparison, Red.
Nice comparison, Red.
Yaspaa said on 9/Jun/09
Khali just doesn't have the mobility to perform moves like that competently and safely unlike Show who I've seen spring from his back to his feet albeit holding the rope but I was still really impressed.
Khali just doesn't have the mobility to perform moves like that competently and safely unlike Show who I've seen spring from his back to his feet albeit holding the rope but I was still really impressed.
Mamun said on 9/Jun/09
My friend RED ! Here is another challenge for you ! See if you could put me
in the same picture with Richard Kiel by using Peter Mayhew as a reference!
You will find a picture of Peter Mayhew and Kiel standing together in their
sites posted by BendyUK ! That way we will know for sure if Kiel was anywhere
near the Kareem Abdul Jabbar Height of 7' 2" .
Kind regards
Supermun
My friend RED ! Here is another challenge for you ! See if you could put me
in the same picture with Richard Kiel by using Peter Mayhew as a reference!
You will find a picture of Peter Mayhew and Kiel standing together in their
sites posted by BendyUK ! That way we will know for sure if Kiel was anywhere
near the Kareem Abdul Jabbar Height of 7' 2" .
Kind regards
Supermun
Joe said on 8/Jun/09
his arms are huge in the photo with mamum. i think he is 6'8.
his arms are huge in the photo with mamum. i think he is 6'8.
Mamun said on 8/Jun/09
Thank you my friend RED ! Another one of your master picture comparisons we
can all enjoy !
Kind regards
Supermun
Thank you my friend RED ! Another one of your master picture comparisons we
can all enjoy !
Kind regards
Supermun
sid said on 8/Jun/09
Guys can we compare Richard Moll and kane. Richard Moll is 6'8 as well as kane..can we get a picture of richard moll to compare with kane..to see if who is taller or the same height??
Guys can we compare Richard Moll and kane. Richard Moll is 6'8 as well as kane..can we get a picture of richard moll to compare with kane..to see if who is taller or the same height??
sid said on 8/Jun/09
Red kane has like atleast 5 to 5.5 inches on lou
Red kane has like atleast 5 to 5.5 inches on lou
sid said on 7/Jun/09
Anonymous i been saying that, yankem had no lifts..he was a jobber he was taller then taker..05 to a inch.why would a jobber like yankem need internal, and out on the hell..
Anonymous i been saying that, yankem had no lifts..he was a jobber he was taller then taker..05 to a inch.why would a jobber like yankem need internal, and out on the hell..
Anonymous said on 6/Jun/09
if in doubt, always go back to the yankem/taker staredown- jacobs taller, end of.
if in doubt, always go back to the yankem/taker staredown- jacobs taller, end of.
Clay said on 5/Jun/09
It's common knowledge that Khali is so enormous and strong that Vince and the WWE staff have limited his move list. He isnt allowed to do powerbombs, suplexes etc. because well, that would probably mean half of the roster would frequently be on the injured reserve. That sucks because it was fun when he debuted and threw the cruiserweights around like they were pillows.
It's common knowledge that Khali is so enormous and strong that Vince and the WWE staff have limited his move list. He isnt allowed to do powerbombs, suplexes etc. because well, that would probably mean half of the roster would frequently be on the injured reserve. That sucks because it was fun when he debuted and threw the cruiserweights around like they were pillows.
Shock of Electric said on 5/Jun/09
One more reviewing RR03 showing that Kane does in fact change his posture.
Click Here
One more reviewing RR03 showing that Kane does in fact change his posture.
Click Here
Shock of Electric said on 5/Jun/09
1.5" heeled wrestling boots give the same percentage of lift as .75" wrestling boots. +2 and +2 layers.
It should be noted, my Tims also give me 1 7/16" increase, no inserts, which is the same as the thickest heel measurement, this is including the part between the sole and the boot itself, which all counts towards what you're standing on.
Taker is not standing in any advantageous position in that pic, and also, in the other pic you post where you claim Kane's legs don't close up, you clearly see him stand up straighter in the close up part of the video and they start walking. As soon as they start walking you can still see Kane is .5" shorter.
1.5" heeled wrestling boots give the same percentage of lift as .75" wrestling boots. +2 and +2 layers.
It should be noted, my Tims also give me 1 7/16" increase, no inserts, which is the same as the thickest heel measurement, this is including the part between the sole and the boot itself, which all counts towards what you're standing on.
Taker is not standing in any advantageous position in that pic, and also, in the other pic you post where you claim Kane's legs don't close up, you clearly see him stand up straighter in the close up part of the video and they start walking. As soon as they start walking you can still see Kane is .5" shorter.
Electric Shock said on 5/Jun/09
Da Man, even if they didn't boost the total...wouldn't everyone's boots go down proportionate to their weight? Given Taker and Kane are within 20 lbs of each other, wouldn't their boots lose almost the exact same amount of height?
Da Man, even if they didn't boost the total...wouldn't everyone's boots go down proportionate to their weight? Given Taker and Kane are within 20 lbs of each other, wouldn't their boots lose almost the exact same amount of height?
Da Man said on 5/Jun/09
Taker is on a lower plan, but New Diesel is taller, and stepping back. Taker is standing pretty well, even shifting his weight to the balls of his feet. If Sid was the one doing that, some here would be accusing him of "tip-toeing".
Taker is on a lower plan, but New Diesel is taller, and stepping back. Taker is standing pretty well, even shifting his weight to the balls of his feet. If Sid was the one doing that, some here would be accusing him of "tip-toeing".
Da Man said on 5/Jun/09
Shock of Electric says, "Most of the pics on this site when measuring high heel shoes, do not have the nearly 1" of platoform like large wrestling boots do, and on top of that, nearly double the claimed heel height. If you lose .75" on a 2.75" heel that has less than .5" in the font, you're going to lose significantly less than that in a wrestling boot with .875" in the front and 1.4375" in the back. This should not be such a shocking revelation."
Nike Shox do, what determines the height increase footwear gives is determined by the height of the pivot point of the foot, and that's all it boils down to. The steeper the incline, the lower the pivot point is in relation to the heel. A perfectly flat shoe (sole thickness the same under both the ball and heel of the foot) would boost height by the same amount as the heel thickness. Wresling boots do not do this, Nike Shox do not do this, almost no shoe does this, therefore a 1.5" heeled wrestling will NOT boost height by 1.5". Defying physics still.
Shock of Electric says, "Most of the pics on this site when measuring high heel shoes, do not have the nearly 1" of platoform like large wrestling boots do, and on top of that, nearly double the claimed heel height. If you lose .75" on a 2.75" heel that has less than .5" in the font, you're going to lose significantly less than that in a wrestling boot with .875" in the front and 1.4375" in the back. This should not be such a shocking revelation."
Nike Shox do, what determines the height increase footwear gives is determined by the height of the pivot point of the foot, and that's all it boils down to. The steeper the incline, the lower the pivot point is in relation to the heel. A perfectly flat shoe (sole thickness the same under both the ball and heel of the foot) would boost height by the same amount as the heel thickness. Wresling boots do not do this, Nike Shox do not do this, almost no shoe does this, therefore a 1.5" heeled wrestling will NOT boost height by 1.5". Defying physics still.
Da Man said on 5/Jun/09
Shock of Electric says, "Most of the pics on this site when measuring high heel shoes, do not have the nearly 1" of platoform like large wrestling boots do, and on top of that, nearly double the claimed heel height. If you lose .75" on a 2.75" heel that has less than .5" in the font, you're going to lose significantly less than that in a wrestling boot with .875" in the front and 1.4375" in the back. This should not be such a shocking revelation."
Nike Shox do, what determines the height increase footwear gives is determined by the height of the pivot point of the foot, and that's all it boils down to. The steeper the incline, the lower the pivot point is in relation to the heel. A perfectly flat shoe (sole thickness the same under both the ball and heel of the foot) would boost height by the same amount as the heel thickness. Wresling boots do not do this, Nike Shox do not do this, almost no show does this, therefore a 1.5" heeled wrestling will NOT boost height by 1.5". Defying physics still.
Shock of Electric says, "Most of the pics on this site when measuring high heel shoes, do not have the nearly 1" of platoform like large wrestling boots do, and on top of that, nearly double the claimed heel height. If you lose .75" on a 2.75" heel that has less than .5" in the font, you're going to lose significantly less than that in a wrestling boot with .875" in the front and 1.4375" in the back. This should not be such a shocking revelation."
Nike Shox do, what determines the height increase footwear gives is determined by the height of the pivot point of the foot, and that's all it boils down to. The steeper the incline, the lower the pivot point is in relation to the heel. A perfectly flat shoe (sole thickness the same under both the ball and heel of the foot) would boost height by the same amount as the heel thickness. Wresling boots do not do this, Nike Shox do not do this, almost no show does this, therefore a 1.5" heeled wrestling will NOT boost height by 1.5". Defying physics still.
Shock of Electric said on 5/Jun/09
First off, I am not the same person as Electric Shock, I would like to clarify that.
Taker and Kane during the time where their footwear was even:
Click Here
No angle or proximity advantages, no seperate pics taken with the same person at different postures, they are lined up, I corrected the camera tilt in the full body shot in the second pic, but provided both.
While Kane's traps, and even eyes may be slightly higher, at the end of the tape, it doesn't matter.
And again, another way to determine this is to simply go back to 1997-99, see that Kane is at the very absolute most 1" taller, and has more than a 1" boot advantage.
Click Here
For a 1.5" wrestling boot, generally this is how it's layered:
3 layers in front = .875"
5 Layers in the back = 1.4375"
There's a tiny bit of boot above the part where the boot material meets to the sole, which comes out to 1.5"
Other common layerings:
1 layer = approximately .3" Sometimes a bottom layer is slightly thicker in some parts than others, ranging between .25" and .3"
3 layers in front, 3 in back, still a difference of 2 layers.
Most of the pics on this site when measuring high heel shoes, do not have the nearly 1" of platoform like large wrestling boots do, and on top of that, nearly double the claimed heel height. If you lose .75" on a 2.75" heel that has less than .5" in the font, you're going to lose significantly less than that in a wrestling boot with .875" in the front and 1.4375" in the back. This should not be such a shocking revelation.
The actual difference between the front and back is 0.5625", so at most you would lose, what? *maybe* 1/8" on a 1.5" boot, it's really not even that much. The back of your foot is virtually straight across in a wrestling boot, it doesn't continue to go up at the same incline until the very back usually. There are some exceptions like Steve Austin and Big Show's boots, they seem to have a gradual incline all the way to the back but that wouldn't matter as much.
Kane's old boots at 2", may lose .25" if there's a 1" total difference in the front and back, but that's being generous to Dam Man. This means 1.75" extra for Kane and .5" max for Taker, a difference of 1.25". If they switched boots, Taker would be more than 1" taller than Kane. Kane's current boots range from 1.25" - 1.75", he usually wears 1.5"
First off, I am not the same person as Electric Shock, I would like to clarify that.
Taker and Kane during the time where their footwear was even:
Click Here
No angle or proximity advantages, no seperate pics taken with the same person at different postures, they are lined up, I corrected the camera tilt in the full body shot in the second pic, but provided both.
While Kane's traps, and even eyes may be slightly higher, at the end of the tape, it doesn't matter.
And again, another way to determine this is to simply go back to 1997-99, see that Kane is at the very absolute most 1" taller, and has more than a 1" boot advantage.
Click Here
For a 1.5" wrestling boot, generally this is how it's layered:
3 layers in front = .875"
5 Layers in the back = 1.4375"
There's a tiny bit of boot above the part where the boot material meets to the sole, which comes out to 1.5"
Other common layerings:
1 layer = approximately .3" Sometimes a bottom layer is slightly thicker in some parts than others, ranging between .25" and .3"
3 layers in front, 3 in back, still a difference of 2 layers.
Most of the pics on this site when measuring high heel shoes, do not have the nearly 1" of platoform like large wrestling boots do, and on top of that, nearly double the claimed heel height. If you lose .75" on a 2.75" heel that has less than .5" in the font, you're going to lose significantly less than that in a wrestling boot with .875" in the front and 1.4375" in the back. This should not be such a shocking revelation.
The actual difference between the front and back is 0.5625", so at most you would lose, what? *maybe* 1/8" on a 1.5" boot, it's really not even that much. The back of your foot is virtually straight across in a wrestling boot, it doesn't continue to go up at the same incline until the very back usually. There are some exceptions like Steve Austin and Big Show's boots, they seem to have a gradual incline all the way to the back but that wouldn't matter as much.
Kane's old boots at 2", may lose .25" if there's a 1" total difference in the front and back, but that's being generous to Dam Man. This means 1.75" extra for Kane and .5" max for Taker, a difference of 1.25". If they switched boots, Taker would be more than 1" taller than Kane. Kane's current boots range from 1.25" - 1.75", he usually wears 1.5"
Electric Shock said on 5/Jun/09
Da Man, in the Diesel pic, Taker is on a lower plane. way to prove yourself wrong.
Da Man, in the Diesel pic, Taker is on a lower plane. way to prove yourself wrong.
sid said on 4/Jun/09
Eric 1 Glenn as issac yankem had no lifts nor internal lift at that time, he looked taller then taker to 05 to 1 inch...I have seen kane, taker and nash all up close, in street cloth. they backed in where I was standing..they all came out of the same car, they went back to grab there gear, it was like one after another, kane looked 0'5 to a inch taller then taker, nash looked a inch taller then kane..made no diff.. there all close in height from each other.
Eric 1 Glenn as issac yankem had no lifts nor internal lift at that time, he looked taller then taker to 05 to 1 inch...I have seen kane, taker and nash all up close, in street cloth. they backed in where I was standing..they all came out of the same car, they went back to grab there gear, it was like one after another, kane looked 0'5 to a inch taller then taker, nash looked a inch taller then kane..made no diff.. there all close in height from each other.
sid said on 4/Jun/09
Mamun Did you ask him what was his max bench press.??
Mamun Did you ask him what was his max bench press.??
Eric 1 said on 4/Jun/09
kanes taller. Perfect pics to prove it DA man
kanes taller. Perfect pics to prove it DA man
Yaspaa said on 4/Jun/09
Looks like 6'7 for Taker.
Looks like 6'7 for Taker.
Da Man said on 4/Jun/09
Here's Kane's stance in the RR '03 video (masked Kane pics), which he did NOT close up notably in the pics ES posted: Click Here
Same size boots here: Click Here Click Here
And a few more: Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
Kane and Taker the same height? Possibly. Kane taller than Taker? Possibly. Kane shorter than Taker? Only with a posture disadvantage, which has become common for Kane these days.
Here's Kane's stance in the RR '03 video (masked Kane pics), which he did NOT close up notably in the pics ES posted: Click Here
Same size boots here: Click Here Click Here
And a few more: Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
Kane and Taker the same height? Possibly. Kane taller than Taker? Possibly. Kane shorter than Taker? Only with a posture disadvantage, which has become common for Kane these days.
Ray said on 3/Jun/09
I don't know how anyone can say Kane is clearly taller when the only evidence we have where Kane is slightly taller (.5") is when he is next to Taker in his larger boots so how is that concrete? Even when Kane had his enormous boots with internal lifts on back when he first debut he was only 1-1.5" at most taller. They're rouhgly the same height and I do think Undertaker has always been slightly taller than Kane but Kane needed the bigger boots to appear the bigger younger brother.
I don't know how anyone can say Kane is clearly taller when the only evidence we have where Kane is slightly taller (.5") is when he is next to Taker in his larger boots so how is that concrete? Even when Kane had his enormous boots with internal lifts on back when he first debut he was only 1-1.5" at most taller. They're rouhgly the same height and I do think Undertaker has always been slightly taller than Kane but Kane needed the bigger boots to appear the bigger younger brother.
Electric Shock said on 3/Jun/09
Rantsrob, I BELIEVE I've seen Mark Henry's bench listed at 585. It's not considered his strong suite.
Rantsrob, I BELIEVE I've seen Mark Henry's bench listed at 585. It's not considered his strong suite.
Electric Shock said on 3/Jun/09
Yaspaa..Kane was DEFINITELY heavier than Taker, at times upto 30 lbs, No ifs ands or buts. He also was taller on screen, but only in huge boots.
Click Here Taker coming out visibly taller than Kane.
Click Here Taker and Kane coming out the same height, Kane with a boot advantage.
Yaspaa..Kane was DEFINITELY heavier than Taker, at times upto 30 lbs, No ifs ands or buts. He also was taller on screen, but only in huge boots.
Click Here Taker coming out visibly taller than Kane.
Click Here Taker and Kane coming out the same height, Kane with a boot advantage.
sid said on 3/Jun/09
Da Man Anonymous I read someone said khali benches 600 pounds..do some research..khali is stronger then show...even the reporter of india said watched khali benches 600, show been seen maxed out at 550, how is that possible show is stronger. Well I read somewhere brock benches 700, is that believeable no..Big show said brock lensar was the strongest guy he ever worked with..Brock benches over 485.I thinking over 500...atleast 525. you don't know that big show is stronger then khali, i'll show you the article
The Great Khali's rigid training regimen helps him channel his abilities into impressive feats of strength, such as tossing the 300-plus pound Kane to the
How does a 7-foot-3 Punjabi giant train to be the most dominant World Heavyweight Champion in history? Any way he wants.
Born of freakish size with one of the most extraordinary physiques in WWE history
Da Man Anonymous I read someone said khali benches 600 pounds..do some research..khali is stronger then show...even the reporter of india said watched khali benches 600, show been seen maxed out at 550, how is that possible show is stronger. Well I read somewhere brock benches 700, is that believeable no..Big show said brock lensar was the strongest guy he ever worked with..Brock benches over 485.I thinking over 500...atleast 525. you don't know that big show is stronger then khali, i'll show you the article
The Great Khali's rigid training regimen helps him channel his abilities into impressive feats of strength, such as tossing the 300-plus pound Kane to the
How does a 7-foot-3 Punjabi giant train to be the most dominant World Heavyweight Champion in history? Any way he wants.
Born of freakish size with one of the most extraordinary physiques in WWE history
Da Man said on 3/Jun/09
I'm still waiting for Electric to explain how his 1.5" wrestling boots, which only provide 1.25" at the pivot point of the foot, provide an actual 1.5" height increase over barefoot. Apparently these wrestling boots are rather unique in that they somehow manage to defy the laws of physics. That might be a decent tag line for a line of "Electric Shock" lifts. Electric Shock lifts, defying the laws of physics. You'd get a call from Sly Stallone in no time.
I almost wonder if these 1.5" wrestling boots use the same technology that Dr. Who's telephone booth does, you know, small on the outside, really big on the inside. j/k
I'm still waiting for Electric to explain how his 1.5" wrestling boots, which only provide 1.25" at the pivot point of the foot, provide an actual 1.5" height increase over barefoot. Apparently these wrestling boots are rather unique in that they somehow manage to defy the laws of physics. That might be a decent tag line for a line of "Electric Shock" lifts. Electric Shock lifts, defying the laws of physics. You'd get a call from Sly Stallone in no time.
I almost wonder if these 1.5" wrestling boots use the same technology that Dr. Who's telephone booth does, you know, small on the outside, really big on the inside. j/k
sid said on 3/Jun/09
Rantsrob It's true Khali benches 600 thats what he says,,I read big show maxes out at 550 for bench press. Mamum said kane benches 535, I don't see 560.
Rantsrob It's true Khali benches 600 thats what he says,,I read big show maxes out at 550 for bench press. Mamum said kane benches 535, I don't see 560.
Da Man said on 3/Jun/09
Rantsrob says
"Because Kanes clearly taller then Taker. You just see what you want to see."
Bingo
Rantsrob says
"Because Kanes clearly taller then Taker. You just see what you want to see."
Bingo
Yaspaa said on 3/Jun/09
Electric I would love to argue with you but I havn't watched wrestling in a good few years,saying that however I always thought Kane was a bit taller and bigger,didn't Taker used to get billed heavier than Kane?
Electric I would love to argue with you but I havn't watched wrestling in a good few years,saying that however I always thought Kane was a bit taller and bigger,didn't Taker used to get billed heavier than Kane?
Rantsrob said on 3/Jun/09
Electric Shock says on 3/Jun/09
I'm curious why you all are so quick to give Kane a 6'8"+ but refuse to put Taker over 6'8". Undertaker is clearly taller than Kane whenever they have equal boots.
Because Kanes clearly taller then Taker. You just see what you want to see.
Electric Shock says on 3/Jun/09
I'm curious why you all are so quick to give Kane a 6'8"+ but refuse to put Taker over 6'8". Undertaker is clearly taller than Kane whenever they have equal boots.
Because Kanes clearly taller then Taker. You just see what you want to see.
Paul said on 3/Jun/09
Yaspaa says on 3/Jun/09
Anonymous is me,hello.
hmmm...not sure
Yaspaa says on 3/Jun/09
Anonymous is me,hello.
hmmm...not sure
Electric Shock said on 3/Jun/09
I'm curious why you all are so quick to give Kane a 6'8"+ but refuse to put Taker over 6'8". Undertaker is clearly taller than Kane whenever they have equal boots.
I'm curious why you all are so quick to give Kane a 6'8"+ but refuse to put Taker over 6'8". Undertaker is clearly taller than Kane whenever they have equal boots.
Big King said on 3/Jun/09
Kane has a full foot on Mamun. He looks like a beast. So 6'8.5" could be fair enough for Kane.
Kane has a full foot on Mamun. He looks like a beast. So 6'8.5" could be fair enough for Kane.
Yaspaa said on 3/Jun/09
Hold on is there another wrestler called Show that I dont know about. I eat my greens and I'm benching about 180lbs....come on!!!
Hold on is there another wrestler called Show that I dont know about. I eat my greens and I'm benching about 180lbs....come on!!!
Da Man said on 3/Jun/09
Brock's been observed benching maxing 485 lbs Sid, and no way does Khali have more functional strength than Show. Not even close. Now can he bench press more than Show? Maybe.
I make no sense? Haha, that's real rich considering the source, how do you know Show was putting up more weight in '99, Sid? Where's the source? And once again, you are confusing who bench presses the most with functional strength. I say no WWE superstar has more real world, functional strength than Big Show, I quantify what I mean by that statement, then you say "no" because you heard some guys bench press more. Talk about missing the point. lol
Brock's been observed benching maxing 485 lbs Sid, and no way does Khali have more functional strength than Show. Not even close. Now can he bench press more than Show? Maybe.
I make no sense? Haha, that's real rich considering the source, how do you know Show was putting up more weight in '99, Sid? Where's the source? And once again, you are confusing who bench presses the most with functional strength. I say no WWE superstar has more real world, functional strength than Big Show, I quantify what I mean by that statement, then you say "no" because you heard some guys bench press more. Talk about missing the point. lol
Anonymous said on 3/Jun/09
Anonymous says on 3/Jun/09
Show is stronger than Khali easily and I bet Brock has never benched 700lbs either,none of these CLAIMS are official a bit like our sid,how much do you bench again?
Show stronger than Big Show ? You gotta be joking. Big Show is usually found propping up the bar drinking beer when he's off duty. Khali prefers protein drinks and eating greens.
He is stronger by a mile. Even stronger than your friend Sid.
Anonymous says on 3/Jun/09
Show is stronger than Khali easily and I bet Brock has never benched 700lbs either,none of these CLAIMS are official a bit like our sid,how much do you bench again?
Show stronger than Big Show ? You gotta be joking. Big Show is usually found propping up the bar drinking beer when he's off duty. Khali prefers protein drinks and eating greens.
He is stronger by a mile. Even stronger than your friend Sid.
Yaspaa said on 3/Jun/09
Anonymous is me,hello.
Anonymous is me,hello.
Anonymous said on 3/Jun/09
Show is stronger than Khali easily and I bet Brock has never benched 700lbs either,none of these CLAIMS are official a bit like our sid,how much do you bench again?
Show is stronger than Khali easily and I bet Brock has never benched 700lbs either,none of these CLAIMS are official a bit like our sid,how much do you bench again?
sid said on 3/Jun/09
Anonymous Big show maxes out at 550 I heard. Kane I can see doing 535. Kane still has a pretty strong choke slam..not nearly as powerful as show. I'm betting show benches 30 to 40 pounds more then kane, and thats alot. I will never bench 535 nor 550..I don't have the body structure, maybe 500, I'm benching 490..Kane is just naturally strong...cornfed natural power lol..Kane is def stronger then batista. Mark is maxes out at 535 as well..repping 450 and 500 is big feat to do, kane reps those weight thats impressive...I max out at 490 like 1 maybe 2 with help..doing it 10 times of more wow..
Anonymous Big show maxes out at 550 I heard. Kane I can see doing 535. Kane still has a pretty strong choke slam..not nearly as powerful as show. I'm betting show benches 30 to 40 pounds more then kane, and thats alot. I will never bench 535 nor 550..I don't have the body structure, maybe 500, I'm benching 490..Kane is just naturally strong...cornfed natural power lol..Kane is def stronger then batista. Mark is maxes out at 535 as well..repping 450 and 500 is big feat to do, kane reps those weight thats impressive...I max out at 490 like 1 maybe 2 with help..doing it 10 times of more wow..
sid said on 2/Jun/09
Da Man Big show maxes out at 550 I read somwhere.. I doubt kane can bench 560...I do believe 535 max for kane..now these days 450 to 500. Your saying kane back then when he was putting up the most weight..he out benched big show no..I have read chris benoit saying kane was the strongest guy he ever seen..so maybe it's possible for him to bench 560..I have my opinions to man 560 is too much for kane..khali benches 600 50 pounds over kane's 560 suppposly nah I don't see 560, 535 yep..
Da Man Big show maxes out at 550 I read somwhere.. I doubt kane can bench 560...I do believe 535 max for kane..now these days 450 to 500. Your saying kane back then when he was putting up the most weight..he out benched big show no..I have read chris benoit saying kane was the strongest guy he ever seen..so maybe it's possible for him to bench 560..I have my opinions to man 560 is too much for kane..khali benches 600 50 pounds over kane's 560 suppposly nah I don't see 560, 535 yep..
Alex said on 2/Jun/09
Weights in the gym is different than picking up people or moving furniture. If you are strong you're going to be strong at both but some guys who dont go to the gym can be just as strong as you when coming to lifting things besides weights.
Weights in the gym is different than picking up people or moving furniture. If you are strong you're going to be strong at both but some guys who dont go to the gym can be just as strong as you when coming to lifting things besides weights.
MrGrimm said on 2/Jun/09
told me he was 6'8 at autograph signing and he looked it
told me he was 6'8 at autograph signing and he looked it
Anonymous said on 2/Jun/09
Yeah,when Kane Chokeslams somebody and the timing is off it looks ropey but Show gets away with it,he is a beast I have to say,much greater core strength due to his gift/curse I guess. Show doesn't seem to go through the motions of picking someone up..like 1,2,3 and away,he just picks people up! Show probably does 540lbs at all the exercises.
Yeah,when Kane Chokeslams somebody and the timing is off it looks ropey but Show gets away with it,he is a beast I have to say,much greater core strength due to his gift/curse I guess. Show doesn't seem to go through the motions of picking someone up..like 1,2,3 and away,he just picks people up! Show probably does 540lbs at all the exercises.
Da Man said on 2/Jun/09
Who knows what Kane meant by 535 though, that may have been his all time max, or his then current max.
Sid, why is 535 believable yet 565 so unbelievable? It's 30 lbs. Meltzer at one time said Kane was the guy putting up the most weight in the gym (back around '99, IIRC), and that was back around the time Big Show Show was in his prime as well. And while I agree that Kane's "functional strength" isn't as great as Show's (a lot to do with leverage, body type, weight, bone size; no WWE superstar matches Show here, including M. Henry), that doesn't mean it is impossible that he could outperform Show in certain lifts in the gym.
Who knows what Kane meant by 535 though, that may have been his all time max, or his then current max.
Sid, why is 535 believable yet 565 so unbelievable? It's 30 lbs. Meltzer at one time said Kane was the guy putting up the most weight in the gym (back around '99, IIRC), and that was back around the time Big Show Show was in his prime as well. And while I agree that Kane's "functional strength" isn't as great as Show's (a lot to do with leverage, body type, weight, bone size; no WWE superstar matches Show here, including M. Henry), that doesn't mean it is impossible that he could outperform Show in certain lifts in the gym.
Yaspaa said on 2/Jun/09
More he said she said.
More he said she said.
Anonymous said on 2/Jun/09
might be 6'8
lol hes huge, look his arm compared to Mamun!
might be 6'8
lol hes huge, look his arm compared to Mamun!
sid said on 2/Jun/09
Electric Shock where did it say kane benched 565.?? Thats more then big show, he maxes out at 540 no way kane can bench more then big show..Chris benoit said kane was the strongest person he ever seen..where did you get this kane could bench 565???
Electric Shock where did it say kane benched 565.?? Thats more then big show, he maxes out at 540 no way kane can bench more then big show..Chris benoit said kane was the strongest person he ever seen..where did you get this kane could bench 565???
Electric Shock said on 1/Jun/09
It's been said Kane benched 565. Kane only claimed 535 though.
It's been said Kane benched 565. Kane only claimed 535 though.
Rantsrob said on 1/Jun/09
sid says on 1/Jun/09
Rantsrob You don't fight..do you..The power i poessed from benching 490 gives me the power to punch stronger while training...on the baq.. and sparring with friends..In training you don't only train with bag, focus mitts there weight training as well to make yourself stronger..I stop training for ring fights I keep in shape by working out.. and training on the bag, and spar my friends...Anyone can punch.. some punches ain't proper..you make fist you hit someone with full force..sure you can hurt them....there lots of people who never had any experience in fighting.. they do punch..when it comes to it.. ya they hurt them...anyone can punch..weighting training does help your power.. Kane is still in shape.. I still believe he reps 500 pounds..he wrestled 2nd most next to cm punk last year. for that ya you need to keep in shape..batista in his new book said kane worksout more then any other superstar besides himself..kane is a walking dictonary.. of working out..he has over 40 memebers ships all over.. im just going what the book saids
Are you on shrooms? What are you even talking about!
sid says on 1/Jun/09
Rantsrob You don't fight..do you..The power i poessed from benching 490 gives me the power to punch stronger while training...on the baq.. and sparring with friends..In training you don't only train with bag, focus mitts there weight training as well to make yourself stronger..I stop training for ring fights I keep in shape by working out.. and training on the bag, and spar my friends...Anyone can punch.. some punches ain't proper..you make fist you hit someone with full force..sure you can hurt them....there lots of people who never had any experience in fighting.. they do punch..when it comes to it.. ya they hurt them...anyone can punch..weighting training does help your power.. Kane is still in shape.. I still believe he reps 500 pounds..he wrestled 2nd most next to cm punk last year. for that ya you need to keep in shape..batista in his new book said kane worksout more then any other superstar besides himself..kane is a walking dictonary.. of working out..he has over 40 memebers ships all over.. im just going what the book saids
Are you on shrooms? What are you even talking about!
sid said on 1/Jun/09
Rantsrob You don't fight..do you..The power i poessed from benching 490 gives me the power to punch stronger while training...on the baq.. and sparring with friends..In training you don't only train with bag, focus mitts there weight training as well to make yourself stronger..I stop training for ring fights I keep in shape by working out.. and training on the bag, and spar my friends...Anyone can punch.. some punches ain't proper..you make fist you hit someone with full force..sure you can hurt them....there lots of people who never had any experience in fighting.. they do punch..when it comes to it.. ya they hurt them...anyone can punch..weighting training does help your power.. Kane is still in shape.. I still believe he reps 500 pounds..he wrestled 2nd most next to cm punk last year. for that ya you need to keep in shape..batista in his new book said kane worksout more then any other superstar besides himself..kane is a walking dictonary.. of working out..he has over 40 memebers ships all over.. im just going what the book saids
Rantsrob You don't fight..do you..The power i poessed from benching 490 gives me the power to punch stronger while training...on the baq.. and sparring with friends..In training you don't only train with bag, focus mitts there weight training as well to make yourself stronger..I stop training for ring fights I keep in shape by working out.. and training on the bag, and spar my friends...Anyone can punch.. some punches ain't proper..you make fist you hit someone with full force..sure you can hurt them....there lots of people who never had any experience in fighting.. they do punch..when it comes to it.. ya they hurt them...anyone can punch..weighting training does help your power.. Kane is still in shape.. I still believe he reps 500 pounds..he wrestled 2nd most next to cm punk last year. for that ya you need to keep in shape..batista in his new book said kane worksout more then any other superstar besides himself..kane is a walking dictonary.. of working out..he has over 40 memebers ships all over.. im just going what the book saids
Mamun said on 31/May/09
Yes my friend SID he indeed said that !
Regards
supermun
Yes my friend SID he indeed said that !
Regards
supermun
Rantsrob said on 31/May/09
sid says on 29/May/09
The Ben Actually benching lots can give you power..anyone can punch if they make a fist...whether or not if it's a proper punch...thats a differnt story...I bench near 500, that power I use when I train gives the power to punch more harder...I'm training for a ring fight. I train to keep in shape and always be ready...
Mamun..Kane isn't out of shape.. I know for a fact kane works out everyday more then any other wwe superstar next to dave.. dave said that in his book..kane worksout everday more then any other wrestler..Kane is in shape..kane is in better shape then most wwe superstar.. and for his size to.. he is in better shape then big show..Kane still probably benches 500 even today. I thought you asked him how much kane benches didn't he say 535..maybe he reps 500 drops the 35 pound off...500 pounds is good enough for his size to rep to workout more.. if he can rep 405 12 times..he can rep atleast good 8 with 500. Kane is in shape..more then others..he wrestled more then anyone on the roster.. last year that you have to keep in shape..2nd next to cm punk..I doubt kane is out of shape..
The only thing that made sense in that paragraph is "Kane is not out of shape."
sid says on 29/May/09
The Ben Actually benching lots can give you power..anyone can punch if they make a fist...whether or not if it's a proper punch...thats a differnt story...I bench near 500, that power I use when I train gives the power to punch more harder...I'm training for a ring fight. I train to keep in shape and always be ready...
Mamun..Kane isn't out of shape.. I know for a fact kane works out everyday more then any other wwe superstar next to dave.. dave said that in his book..kane worksout everday more then any other wrestler..Kane is in shape..kane is in better shape then most wwe superstar.. and for his size to.. he is in better shape then big show..Kane still probably benches 500 even today. I thought you asked him how much kane benches didn't he say 535..maybe he reps 500 drops the 35 pound off...500 pounds is good enough for his size to rep to workout more.. if he can rep 405 12 times..he can rep atleast good 8 with 500. Kane is in shape..more then others..he wrestled more then anyone on the roster.. last year that you have to keep in shape..2nd next to cm punk..I doubt kane is out of shape..
The only thing that made sense in that paragraph is "Kane is not out of shape."
sid said on 31/May/09
Kane is 6'8 where did you see a picture of max starks and kane??
Kane is 6'8 where did you see a picture of max starks and kane??
Electric Shock said on 31/May/09
Kane is 6'7.75". Not that I'm complaining too much about what you guys have, but compared to 6'7.1" Max Starks he comes out between a half an inch and .75 taller, making 6'7.75" very likely.
Kane is 6'7.75". Not that I'm complaining too much about what you guys have, but compared to 6'7.1" Max Starks he comes out between a half an inch and .75 taller, making 6'7.75" very likely.
Yaspaa said on 29/May/09
Martial arts interest you sid yet you dont know where the guy started his craft,your a silly billy,a cheeky monkey......who's a boo boo doo doo?
Martial arts interest you sid yet you dont know where the guy started his craft,your a silly billy,a cheeky monkey......who's a boo boo doo doo?
sidewalk said on 29/May/09
The discussion ever going to get back to Kane's height or is everyone in agreement on it?
The discussion ever going to get back to Kane's height or is everyone in agreement on it?
Mamun said on 29/May/09
535 POUNDS IS WHAT HE SAID MY FRIEND SID !
REGARDS
SUPERMUN
535 POUNDS IS WHAT HE SAID MY FRIEND SID !
REGARDS
SUPERMUN
Yaspaa said on 29/May/09
His bench press weight is all he said she said though and does he bench properly or Tank Abbott style. What about Nathan Jones,bigger,stronger but he sucked in Pride FC.
His bench press weight is all he said she said though and does he bench properly or Tank Abbott style. What about Nathan Jones,bigger,stronger but he sucked in Pride FC.
sid said on 29/May/09
The Ben I don't train for ring fights..anymore is what I meant. I train to keep in shape.. and be ready..
The Ben I don't train for ring fights..anymore is what I meant. I train to keep in shape.. and be ready..
sid said on 29/May/09
The Ben Kane never took steroid man.. Kane as himself Glenn jacobs said he ia anti drug he has a polictical blog. which he speaks at the liberty forum..he is a a smart guy I would believe him.. kane to me always had a nature look..He's has natural strength.. just cornfed strong...usually big guys him are natrually strong..
The Ben Kane never took steroid man.. Kane as himself Glenn jacobs said he ia anti drug he has a polictical blog. which he speaks at the liberty forum..he is a a smart guy I would believe him.. kane to me always had a nature look..He's has natural strength.. just cornfed strong...usually big guys him are natrually strong..
sid said on 29/May/09
The Ben Actually benching lots can give you power..anyone can punch if they make a fist...whether or not if it's a proper punch...thats a differnt story...I bench near 500, that power I use when I train gives the power to punch more harder...I'm training for a ring fight. I train to keep in shape and always be ready...
Mamun..Kane isn't out of shape.. I know for a fact kane works out everyday more then any other wwe superstar next to dave.. dave said that in his book..kane worksout everday more then any other wrestler..Kane is in shape..kane is in better shape then most wwe superstar.. and for his size to.. he is in better shape then big show..Kane still probably benches 500 even today. I thought you asked him how much kane benches didn't he say 535..maybe he reps 500 drops the 35 pound off...500 pounds is good enough for his size to rep to workout more.. if he can rep 405 12 times..he can rep atleast good 8 with 500. Kane is in shape..more then others..he wrestled more then anyone on the roster.. last year that you have to keep in shape..2nd next to cm punk..I doubt kane is out of shape..
The Ben Actually benching lots can give you power..anyone can punch if they make a fist...whether or not if it's a proper punch...thats a differnt story...I bench near 500, that power I use when I train gives the power to punch more harder...I'm training for a ring fight. I train to keep in shape and always be ready...
Mamun..Kane isn't out of shape.. I know for a fact kane works out everyday more then any other wwe superstar next to dave.. dave said that in his book..kane worksout everday more then any other wrestler..Kane is in shape..kane is in better shape then most wwe superstar.. and for his size to.. he is in better shape then big show..Kane still probably benches 500 even today. I thought you asked him how much kane benches didn't he say 535..maybe he reps 500 drops the 35 pound off...500 pounds is good enough for his size to rep to workout more.. if he can rep 405 12 times..he can rep atleast good 8 with 500. Kane is in shape..more then others..he wrestled more then anyone on the roster.. last year that you have to keep in shape..2nd next to cm punk..I doubt kane is out of shape..
Yaspaa said on 27/May/09
Sid it was THE BEN now get out of dodge,lol.
Sid it was THE BEN now get out of dodge,lol.
sid said on 26/May/09
yaspaa and your immature little words from his childhood days...grow up plonker havnt used that since i was a kid..speak as adult real language..plonker god..sounds like something came out of a childs book.. and choo choo went plonkers of the rail road tracks cause the conducter didn't see the little bird flyhing into the window..the conducter was trying to find away to get the train back on the tracks..Plonker gees..atleast get out of dodge is more adultish then plonkers.makes me laugh with your words..With no experience in street fights thinking any sort of kicks would work.. when easily you can be taken down.. these days...
yaspaa and your immature little words from his childhood days...grow up plonker havnt used that since i was a kid..speak as adult real language..plonker god..sounds like something came out of a childs book.. and choo choo went plonkers of the rail road tracks cause the conducter didn't see the little bird flyhing into the window..the conducter was trying to find away to get the train back on the tracks..Plonker gees..atleast get out of dodge is more adultish then plonkers.makes me laugh with your words..With no experience in street fights thinking any sort of kicks would work.. when easily you can be taken down.. these days...
Rantsrob said on 26/May/09
Make Love. Not War.
Make Love. Not War.
Da Man said on 26/May/09
Sid
The Ben was *responding* to me, he wasn't quoting me. Just read the replies, dude.
Notice how I started this reply with "Sid". I hope that doesn't mean you think I quoted you.
Sid
The Ben was *responding* to me, he wasn't quoting me. Just read the replies, dude.
Notice how I started this reply with "Sid". I hope that doesn't mean you think I quoted you.
Yaspaa said on 26/May/09
Sid it was THE BEN you plonker,regardless of who it was,he was right.Speaking of plonkers..... nayisha!
Sid it was THE BEN you plonker,regardless of who it was,he was right.Speaking of plonkers..... nayisha!
Yaspaa said on 26/May/09
The Ben said that sid.
The Ben said that sid.
nayisha said on 25/May/09
i think kane is 7 foot tall bc when he comes out 2 wrestle thay say hes 7 feet tall.
i think kane is 7 foot tall bc when he comes out 2 wrestle thay say hes 7 feet tall.
sid said on 25/May/09
Da man who would come under your name and put that.?? your name is on it..Might I add Ben posted and copied what you said..you tell me who posted it if it wasn't you.
Da man who would come under your name and put that.?? your name is on it..Might I add Ben posted and copied what you said..you tell me who posted it if it wasn't you.
sid said on 25/May/09
Yaspaa He said he been doing it since the 60's why would a old man lie..he's 60 for pete sakes I known him since I was a kid...very good friend to out family he teaches it perhaps he didn't take it here in canada. maybe else where out of dodge...all i know he said something like since the 60's maybe he studied in japan, california who knows, he has no reason to lie.. Da man your post was said at the bottom..I do know what I'm saying..then someone must of post it.
Yaspaa He said he been doing it since the 60's why would a old man lie..he's 60 for pete sakes I known him since I was a kid...very good friend to out family he teaches it perhaps he didn't take it here in canada. maybe else where out of dodge...all i know he said something like since the 60's maybe he studied in japan, california who knows, he has no reason to lie.. Da man your post was said at the bottom..I do know what I'm saying..then someone must of post it.
Yaspaa said on 25/May/09
Goju Ryu didn't come to Canada until the late seventies.
Goju Ryu didn't come to Canada until the late seventies.
Da Man said on 25/May/09
Sid said,
"Da Man Maybe someone hijacked your name. or I read it wrong. You said Sid you dont know what your talking."
No I didn't
Sid said,
"Da Man Maybe someone hijacked your name. or I read it wrong. You said Sid you dont know what your talking."
No I didn't
Yaspaa said on 25/May/09
Machida was amazing,did you see Rashad's mouth was wide open when he got clocked,fantastic. Krav utilises low kicks so they cant be that useless. Sid if you are are 5'10 and 240 your kicks are going to be sloooow so no I wouldn't use them either if I was you.
Machida was amazing,did you see Rashad's mouth was wide open when he got clocked,fantastic. Krav utilises low kicks so they cant be that useless. Sid if you are are 5'10 and 240 your kicks are going to be sloooow so no I wouldn't use them either if I was you.
sid said on 25/May/09
Da Man that kick would work in a controlled manner in a tournment ring sanction street fight.. I agree it will do some damage..cause in the ring some tournments for standing up fight don't allow them to catch the foot while getting kicked..street kick can easily be easily evaded..like i said before...look at my convo below.
Da Man that kick would work in a controlled manner in a tournment ring sanction street fight.. I agree it will do some damage..cause in the ring some tournments for standing up fight don't allow them to catch the foot while getting kicked..street kick can easily be easily evaded..like i said before...look at my convo below.
Da Man said on 25/May/09
Machida has a kick I would want no part of, even with a police shield.
Machida has a kick I would want no part of, even with a police shield.
sid said on 24/May/09
Da Man Maybe someone hijacked your name. or I read it wrong. You said Sid you dont know what your talking, yes I do know what I'm talking about.
Yaspaa those kicks high low works in tournments ring fights, can't you read man cmon man.. street is differnt....yes it can do damange in the ring...I never thrown kicks in a street fights understand meaning in public park, anywhere put the ring..not wise to throw any sort of kicks in a street fight. I got a friend who is 60 he been doing karate goju ryu since 1967.. he said anyone kicks in a fight is a glunten for punishment.. it isn't a smart fighter..easy caught, blocked sweeped, snaped taken down on the ground like what I said Yaspaa stop aruging something you don't have expereince in.
Da Man Maybe someone hijacked your name. or I read it wrong. You said Sid you dont know what your talking, yes I do know what I'm talking about.
Yaspaa those kicks high low works in tournments ring fights, can't you read man cmon man.. street is differnt....yes it can do damange in the ring...I never thrown kicks in a street fights understand meaning in public park, anywhere put the ring..not wise to throw any sort of kicks in a street fight. I got a friend who is 60 he been doing karate goju ryu since 1967.. he said anyone kicks in a fight is a glunten for punishment.. it isn't a smart fighter..easy caught, blocked sweeped, snaped taken down on the ground like what I said Yaspaa stop aruging something you don't have expereince in.
Yaspaa said on 24/May/09
Waahaaah,apparently even sid doesn't have any idea what he's talking about DM (like we didn't already know),he could be delusional,stuck in an imaginary military world where he is the Sargeant Major and wants to kick Richard Gere's gigilo tooting ass and as you like turning debates to suit your own way of thinking siddles(dont we all....in a normal way!) try this ....What does 'Mrs.sid' think of all this? Is she the brains of the family? How large does a piece of fluff have to become to be considered a tuft or is fluff just a tuft without the DNA,personally I think sid is the higher end of the calorie chain,he's a fruit cake,he's nuts and bananas and all this whilst being a nugget,no wonder you bench 490oz.
Has Eric's height (pictured) been confirmed?
Waahaaah,apparently even sid doesn't have any idea what he's talking about DM (like we didn't already know),he could be delusional,stuck in an imaginary military world where he is the Sargeant Major and wants to kick Richard Gere's gigilo tooting ass and as you like turning debates to suit your own way of thinking siddles(dont we all....in a normal way!) try this ....What does 'Mrs.sid' think of all this? Is she the brains of the family? How large does a piece of fluff have to become to be considered a tuft or is fluff just a tuft without the DNA,personally I think sid is the higher end of the calorie chain,he's a fruit cake,he's nuts and bananas and all this whilst being a nugget,no wonder you bench 490oz.
Has Eric's height (pictured) been confirmed?
Da Man said on 24/May/09
Sid, I'm not in the Navy. I'm not military. Did someone hijack my name?
Sid, I'm not in the Navy. I'm not military. Did someone hijack my name?
Yaspaa said on 24/May/09
Feint low kick into high kick. The UFC fighters are are world class thats why they need to be separated and a world class welter weight like Pierre would nail a mediocre heavyweight.
Feint low kick into high kick. The UFC fighters are are world class thats why they need to be separated and a world class welter weight like Pierre would nail a mediocre heavyweight.
sid said on 24/May/09
Da Man I do know what I'm talking about...I been doing this longe then you..Your in a navy good for you I was in the army..I seen enough street fights to know kicks aren't useful...low or high..anyone kicks a person they catch it, sweep there leg, block or a take down..Kicks are good in a controlled manner such as a ring fight tournments.. not street fights totally differnt..You give me a low cut kick I will catch it snap your ankle. or take you down..and do whatever I can to finish you man..I do admit a low cut kick will do some damage not if the other guy is quick...enough to see it coming...I fought a amatuer note might I add not all MMA fighters are that great. I out weighed him..thats why they have weight classes suit you...If your weigh 50 pounds more then the other guy no contest.. look at UFC.. they have weight clases to fight.super heavy weight, light weight etc..you put a heavy weight agaist a light.. heavy weight gonna win..thats called a mis match..I didn't fight just sparred him..I out powered him.out sparred him.. got out of his moves..he got me down.I roled him over pumbled him with punches.. he tried a arm bar..i out powered him.. note this is just a sparring session...differnt weight classes..I do have some grappling experience.. combat hapkido..little more simplier, just like brazlian ju jitsu is simpiler then japan style of ju jitsu ....
Da Man I do know what I'm talking about...I been doing this longe then you..Your in a navy good for you I was in the army..I seen enough street fights to know kicks aren't useful...low or high..anyone kicks a person they catch it, sweep there leg, block or a take down..Kicks are good in a controlled manner such as a ring fight tournments.. not street fights totally differnt..You give me a low cut kick I will catch it snap your ankle. or take you down..and do whatever I can to finish you man..I do admit a low cut kick will do some damage not if the other guy is quick...enough to see it coming...I fought a amatuer note might I add not all MMA fighters are that great. I out weighed him..thats why they have weight classes suit you...If your weigh 50 pounds more then the other guy no contest.. look at UFC.. they have weight clases to fight.super heavy weight, light weight etc..you put a heavy weight agaist a light.. heavy weight gonna win..thats called a mis match..I didn't fight just sparred him..I out powered him.out sparred him.. got out of his moves..he got me down.I roled him over pumbled him with punches.. he tried a arm bar..i out powered him.. note this is just a sparring session...differnt weight classes..I do have some grappling experience.. combat hapkido..little more simplier, just like brazlian ju jitsu is simpiler then japan style of ju jitsu ....
sid said on 23/May/09
Yaspaa You can't say nothing when you have no experience.. I seen it only two times it was full blown contacted kick high one was going his temple, other was a low cut kick was to the thigh...Street fights is differnt from a ring fight.. kicks high low will work in a controlled manner ring fight tournments etc not in a street fight..Yes I maybe a rebell...I do teach people a lesson..I did Taekwondo itf style 75 to 85 black belt in that,85 till 99 I did mauy thai kick boxing, during that stint, I was in the army I had trained in combat hapkido at the same token I was doing mauy thai and combat hapkido at the sametime..Got a black belt in that..I know I shouldn't fight it's in my nature, I started to street fight in 79...Lots of people take martial arts to prove there skills to fight in the streets..not all are gonna be good man...It should be for self defense purposes, I got a bad temper..I'm still feeling young for a man who is turning 40. Working out, and doing martial arts has kept me in great shape..i normally train to keep in shape and always be ready..I'm not training for a ring fight anymore.. that went belly up..10 years ago...I am a rebell not a thug thats this generation..Yaspaa it isn't right, nothing is these days nothings is these days man...Me I never kicked in street fight I was smart about it.. don't need to. I got a knock out shot..Kicking in street fights isn't a smart, catch it, could snap your ankle, or block it, or sweep you down, hit you in the groin, yaspaa you can't say anything when you don't have experience..ring fights kicks are great...i have both experience..more street fights..to know kicks high low is stupid to use in a street key word street fight.
Yaspaa You can't say nothing when you have no experience.. I seen it only two times it was full blown contacted kick high one was going his temple, other was a low cut kick was to the thigh...Street fights is differnt from a ring fight.. kicks high low will work in a controlled manner ring fight tournments etc not in a street fight..Yes I maybe a rebell...I do teach people a lesson..I did Taekwondo itf style 75 to 85 black belt in that,85 till 99 I did mauy thai kick boxing, during that stint, I was in the army I had trained in combat hapkido at the same token I was doing mauy thai and combat hapkido at the sametime..Got a black belt in that..I know I shouldn't fight it's in my nature, I started to street fight in 79...Lots of people take martial arts to prove there skills to fight in the streets..not all are gonna be good man...It should be for self defense purposes, I got a bad temper..I'm still feeling young for a man who is turning 40. Working out, and doing martial arts has kept me in great shape..i normally train to keep in shape and always be ready..I'm not training for a ring fight anymore.. that went belly up..10 years ago...I am a rebell not a thug thats this generation..Yaspaa it isn't right, nothing is these days nothings is these days man...Me I never kicked in street fight I was smart about it.. don't need to. I got a knock out shot..Kicking in street fights isn't a smart, catch it, could snap your ankle, or block it, or sweep you down, hit you in the groin, yaspaa you can't say anything when you don't have experience..ring fights kicks are great...i have both experience..more street fights..to know kicks high low is stupid to use in a street key word street fight.
sid said on 22/May/09
Yaspaa all your showing me ring fights.. show me kick in a street fight.. on video. thats right theres isnt none cause you cant do it in one..stop talking when you have no real street fight experience..I been fighting on the streets since 79 till now.. well couple of years, I only seen 2 kicks which didn't prevail, caught or blocked..You can catch a low kick in mauy thai boxing for a few seconds and trip them down before getting penalized..stop talking yaspaa...you have no proof..on video..never will be..You know why I know you have no street fight experience cause think you low kicks or kicks wil work in a street fight..give it up man..
Yaspaa all your showing me ring fights.. show me kick in a street fight.. on video. thats right theres isnt none cause you cant do it in one..stop talking when you have no real street fight experience..I been fighting on the streets since 79 till now.. well couple of years, I only seen 2 kicks which didn't prevail, caught or blocked..You can catch a low kick in mauy thai boxing for a few seconds and trip them down before getting penalized..stop talking yaspaa...you have no proof..on video..never will be..You know why I know you have no street fight experience cause think you low kicks or kicks wil work in a street fight..give it up man..
sid said on 22/May/09
Yaspaa No point in going in circles when you don't have street fight experience. your circumnavigating, your saying things that won't be feesible in a street fight..high kicks low kicks will work in a controlled manner such as in a tourment and in the ring. Da man you don't have street fight experience as well I do. I kicked friend a high side kick out of no where while he was drinking beer at the last second this while he was standing up at the last second he caught the kick in his prefieo vision and moved. I just prooved my point..you can't get unexpected moves on camera it has to me unexpected..You people are pathethic to think it will work..on camera it wil be controlled not in realife
Yaspaa No point in going in circles when you don't have street fight experience. your circumnavigating, your saying things that won't be feesible in a street fight..high kicks low kicks will work in a controlled manner such as in a tourment and in the ring. Da man you don't have street fight experience as well I do. I kicked friend a high side kick out of no where while he was drinking beer at the last second this while he was standing up at the last second he caught the kick in his prefieo vision and moved. I just prooved my point..you can't get unexpected moves on camera it has to me unexpected..You people are pathethic to think it will work..on camera it wil be controlled not in realife
Yaspaa said on 22/May/09
Beautiful,shocking and bloody impressive.
Beautiful,shocking and bloody impressive.
Yaspaa said on 22/May/09
Also Jacobs has no amatuer wrestling backgroud and thats the only kind of useful wrestling.
Also Jacobs has no amatuer wrestling backgroud and thats the only kind of useful wrestling.
Yaspaa said on 22/May/09
Low kicks do work if you can kick properly and I'm sure any nugget would see your tree trunk leg coming towards them. A good kicker doesn't even have to kick it just happens,no telegraphing at all and it's the punch or the kick you dont see that knocks you down or out (or should I say oot). This guy isn't even a top guy (220lbs) Click Here
Low kicks do work if you can kick properly and I'm sure any nugget would see your tree trunk leg coming towards them. A good kicker doesn't even have to kick it just happens,no telegraphing at all and it's the punch or the kick you dont see that knocks you down or out (or should I say oot). This guy isn't even a top guy (220lbs) Click Here
sid said on 21/May/09
Yaspaa one more thing, I kicked my friend whom I havn't seen in 25 years. he was drinking beer... out of no where i low cut kicked him unexpected.. at the last moment he moved out of the way.. cause he caught in his prefieo vision...He said woah man I wasn't ready good thing I caught it, if it didn't i would of been toasted..I always come up unexpected to my friends woah man i didnt see it..GEES LAY OFF MAN..I usually say I'm joking besides I'm not gonna go full power. I was trying to test your theory Yaspaa it didn't work..It can do some damange...it will be easily caught blocked, or a broken ankle..you don't have experience in a street fight I do, I know what I am saying.
Yaspaa one more thing, I kicked my friend whom I havn't seen in 25 years. he was drinking beer... out of no where i low cut kicked him unexpected.. at the last moment he moved out of the way.. cause he caught in his prefieo vision...He said woah man I wasn't ready good thing I caught it, if it didn't i would of been toasted..I always come up unexpected to my friends woah man i didnt see it..GEES LAY OFF MAN..I usually say I'm joking besides I'm not gonna go full power. I was trying to test your theory Yaspaa it didn't work..It can do some damange...it will be easily caught blocked, or a broken ankle..you don't have experience in a street fight I do, I know what I am saying.
sid said on 21/May/09
Yaspaa Your not a street fight yaspaa I am.. kicks dont work in a street fight low or high.I seen only 2 people use kicks how and low.. they never prevailed.. cause it was caught or blocked which ever one. I agree it will do some damange in a controlled fight like in a ring fight it will work.. not on a street.. I seen 2 people do it..Yaspaa Jacobs isnt a actor he is a wrestler..kane used those moves in realife he can do some damange. It will work if it is applied right, in a street fight..it won't. your not a street fighter. my friend who was laughing at what your saying..thinks you need to get brain in tacked...kicking low or high won't prevail.knees, elbows, punches all those will prevail
Yaspaa Your not a street fight yaspaa I am.. kicks dont work in a street fight low or high.I seen only 2 people use kicks how and low.. they never prevailed.. cause it was caught or blocked which ever one. I agree it will do some damange in a controlled fight like in a ring fight it will work.. not on a street.. I seen 2 people do it..Yaspaa Jacobs isnt a actor he is a wrestler..kane used those moves in realife he can do some damange. It will work if it is applied right, in a street fight..it won't. your not a street fighter. my friend who was laughing at what your saying..thinks you need to get brain in tacked...kicking low or high won't prevail.knees, elbows, punches all those will prevail
Yaspaa said on 20/May/09
First of all sid,Jacobs didn't fight in Japan,he acted out rehersed routines in Japan.You have never seen leg kicks used in the street? I wouldn't have expected you to. A top knotch kicker can do serious damage,it's like a baseball bat hitting you at 60+ mph and you dont even see it because his eyes havn't left yours,try and power out of something when your knee is hanging off.
First of all sid,Jacobs didn't fight in Japan,he acted out rehersed routines in Japan.You have never seen leg kicks used in the street? I wouldn't have expected you to. A top knotch kicker can do serious damage,it's like a baseball bat hitting you at 60+ mph and you dont even see it because his eyes havn't left yours,try and power out of something when your knee is hanging off.
Yaspaa said on 20/May/09
Wrong again sid, its 265lbs. Sid your a bodybuilder a fighter a trainer you watch TV shows and comment on here constantly and you work,how many does a Canadian day have,NOTHING you say makes any sense,Gary Goodridge is a relative bum. Yopu are truely a joke and the examples you give are completely bogus or pointless.
Wrong again sid, its 265lbs. Sid your a bodybuilder a fighter a trainer you watch TV shows and comment on here constantly and you work,how many does a Canadian day have,NOTHING you say makes any sense,Gary Goodridge is a relative bum. Yopu are truely a joke and the examples you give are completely bogus or pointless.
Yaspaa said on 20/May/09
UFC is the top organisation with the best fighters,265lbs is more than enough it keeps the lumbering ogres out. Do you really think Kane is going to go in and start choke slamming people,he's an actor a showman.
UFC is the top organisation with the best fighters,265lbs is more than enough it keeps the lumbering ogres out. Do you really think Kane is going to go in and start choke slamming people,he's an actor a showman.
sid said on 20/May/09
corba, Brock had to make weight to fight, duh you ever watch Ufc reality Tv show.. you have to make a certain weight.. Brock had to lose weight to fight in the ufc..he went from 300 to 260..you should watch the show.. theres weight limit now.
corba, Brock had to make weight to fight, duh you ever watch Ufc reality Tv show.. you have to make a certain weight.. Brock had to lose weight to fight in the ufc..he went from 300 to 260..you should watch the show.. theres weight limit now.
sid said on 20/May/09
Yaspaa Yaspaa I'm 40 you stereo.. you don't need good grammer to be a adult man..Kane would pan out well..Kane uses those moves in realife he would hurt people.. yes wrestling is fake.. applying those moves in realife isn't fake..Kane had a proper training..would pan out well in the MMA world..I'm 40 I'm still dancing with these kids np all the time, I know what your gonna say, you mean dancing with them all night long, well thats no my cup of tea, probably yours, even your married, you can still Bi My point is I'm 40 same as kane who only 2 years older then me well 39 turning 40 in a couple of month, point is Those moves used in japan, the techincal aspect which you can use in realife, such in the MMA world can do some damange. I have seen MMA fights where someone out powered another fighter in a armbar. I think it was UFC 6 with gary goodridge just out powered his opponent with shere power..Besides when Jacobs fought in Japan..the guy was on the ground giving Jacobs a srm bar, Jacobs lifted him up and slammed him.. how can a guy help you jump up if he is on his back..still shere power..trying do that move in a mma matt, you would get your sense knocked into you..MMA rings don't bounce like wrestling does. I taken reverse back suplexs, on the a mma ring, it rung my bell, i still got up and fought.. point is kane trained right, he can prevail. Theres tons of guys in there 40's stil fighting in MMA chuck liddell made a come back..Theres lots men here in my city in there mid 40's training hard core.still kick ass...If I learned a armbar, whole techicnal aspect. Who wants to feel old, when you feel young Yaspaa thats what I'm doing feeling young.. A man can dream right..Using arm in realife you still kick ass, if you know how to apply it properly.. sure you can kick ass..see your not a real fighter, No one rule don't lick in a street fight, doesnt matter if it's a leg kick. people can catch your leg, your wide open..you took karate for self defense. you don't fight on the streets.. I never seen people use kicks or low leg kicks in a street fights its very dangerous, your wide open..Some used it, I just sweeped him down, got on top pumpled him away..Leg kick cmon...easy to block do a thai shin block,
Yaspaa Yaspaa I'm 40 you stereo.. you don't need good grammer to be a adult man..Kane would pan out well..Kane uses those moves in realife he would hurt people.. yes wrestling is fake.. applying those moves in realife isn't fake..Kane had a proper training..would pan out well in the MMA world..I'm 40 I'm still dancing with these kids np all the time, I know what your gonna say, you mean dancing with them all night long, well thats no my cup of tea, probably yours, even your married, you can still Bi My point is I'm 40 same as kane who only 2 years older then me well 39 turning 40 in a couple of month, point is Those moves used in japan, the techincal aspect which you can use in realife, such in the MMA world can do some damange. I have seen MMA fights where someone out powered another fighter in a armbar. I think it was UFC 6 with gary goodridge just out powered his opponent with shere power..Besides when Jacobs fought in Japan..the guy was on the ground giving Jacobs a srm bar, Jacobs lifted him up and slammed him.. how can a guy help you jump up if he is on his back..still shere power..trying do that move in a mma matt, you would get your sense knocked into you..MMA rings don't bounce like wrestling does. I taken reverse back suplexs, on the a mma ring, it rung my bell, i still got up and fought.. point is kane trained right, he can prevail. Theres tons of guys in there 40's stil fighting in MMA chuck liddell made a come back..Theres lots men here in my city in there mid 40's training hard core.still kick ass...If I learned a armbar, whole techicnal aspect. Who wants to feel old, when you feel young Yaspaa thats what I'm doing feeling young.. A man can dream right..Using arm in realife you still kick ass, if you know how to apply it properly.. sure you can kick ass..see your not a real fighter, No one rule don't lick in a street fight, doesnt matter if it's a leg kick. people can catch your leg, your wide open..you took karate for self defense. you don't fight on the streets.. I never seen people use kicks or low leg kicks in a street fights its very dangerous, your wide open..Some used it, I just sweeped him down, got on top pumpled him away..Leg kick cmon...easy to block do a thai shin block,
Yaspaa said on 19/May/09
Sid,you are one of two things - A youth in your bedroom passionately in love with Kane,dreaming of long walks on the beach whispering sweet nothings in each others ears....or a complete butt nugget who cant tell the difference between real and a fake fight,your whole arguement was based on Kane owning these Japenese guys and powering out of an armbar (locking your fingers to prefent an armbar is not powering out of an armbar and even if he did...faaaake) in fact the Japanian was far more impressive with good leg kicks and you could imagine a 200lb guy doing some real damage.
Sid says - "Yaspaa Doesn't matter if it's fake.. he has experience once he aplies those moves foreal he can kick ass". You cant make this stuff up,it's hilarious.
DM,my last gasp of breath has gone on this debate,it's been an absolute hoot though,easily the best I've had on this site,I cant stop smiling about it actually,my wife thinks I'm sad... and a twat, which is always nice to hear,anyway Sid WTF.
Sid,you are one of two things - A youth in your bedroom passionately in love with Kane,dreaming of long walks on the beach whispering sweet nothings in each others ears....or a complete butt nugget who cant tell the difference between real and a fake fight,your whole arguement was based on Kane owning these Japenese guys and powering out of an armbar (locking your fingers to prefent an armbar is not powering out of an armbar and even if he did...faaaake) in fact the Japanian was far more impressive with good leg kicks and you could imagine a 200lb guy doing some real damage.
Sid says - "Yaspaa Doesn't matter if it's fake.. he has experience once he aplies those moves foreal he can kick ass". You cant make this stuff up,it's hilarious.
DM,my last gasp of breath has gone on this debate,it's been an absolute hoot though,easily the best I've had on this site,I cant stop smiling about it actually,my wife thinks I'm sad... and a twat, which is always nice to hear,anyway Sid WTF.
Cobra said on 19/May/09
Why everyone is talking UFC, there are organizations who have no weigt limit.
265 lbs limit in the UFC is kinda low, cause if you are as tall as Kane and build, it`s very hard to make it. Unfair.
Jumping from boxing to MMA is more likely to have succes than the other way round, though, but it would take a ton of adjustment training.
Why everyone is talking UFC, there are organizations who have no weigt limit.
265 lbs limit in the UFC is kinda low, cause if you are as tall as Kane and build, it`s very hard to make it. Unfair.
Jumping from boxing to MMA is more likely to have succes than the other way round, though, but it would take a ton of adjustment training.
sid said on 19/May/09
Yaspaa kane 6'8 would have to lose 80 pounds to fight in the ufc. kane learns MMA style anytime.. if he wishes,,,may take a year. sometimes less..I got a buddy who was in boxing now doing well in kickboxing...he never liked to kick. but he is now awesome.. he said he had more fun training in kickboxing rather then boxing.. that goes for you da man. Kane would fair out good in MMA,,Kane would be still strong..out power his opponents..do whatever it takes to win.. armbar punch..whole 9 yards...
Yaspaa kane 6'8 would have to lose 80 pounds to fight in the ufc. kane learns MMA style anytime.. if he wishes,,,may take a year. sometimes less..I got a buddy who was in boxing now doing well in kickboxing...he never liked to kick. but he is now awesome.. he said he had more fun training in kickboxing rather then boxing.. that goes for you da man. Kane would fair out good in MMA,,Kane would be still strong..out power his opponents..do whatever it takes to win.. armbar punch..whole 9 yards...
Da Man said on 19/May/09
Sorry, don't know how "guess what Sid" slipped in there.
Yaspaa, how many MMA fighters do you think could jump right into professional boxing and be successful? How many boxers could jump straight into the UFC and be successful? I don't believe very many in either case. The same thing applies to an uncontrolled/unknown environment where anything goes, the guys that TRAIN FOR THOSE CONDITIONS will have the advantage over the boxer OR the MMA fighter. It's just how it is.
Sorry, don't know how "guess what Sid" slipped in there.
Yaspaa, how many MMA fighters do you think could jump right into professional boxing and be successful? How many boxers could jump straight into the UFC and be successful? I don't believe very many in either case. The same thing applies to an uncontrolled/unknown environment where anything goes, the guys that TRAIN FOR THOSE CONDITIONS will have the advantage over the boxer OR the MMA fighter. It's just how it is.
Da Man said on 19/May/09
LOL, ok Yaspaa. The rules are for the safety of the fighters, but guess what Sid, those RULES dictate how many of these up and comers LEARN THE MMA game. No brainwashing here...
LOL, ok Yaspaa. The rules are for the safety of the fighters, but guess what Sid, those RULES dictate how many of these up and comers LEARN THE MMA game. No brainwashing here...
Yaspaa said on 19/May/09
He cant be that good a friend. Sid..PLONKER. 6'8 for Kane ther you go.
He cant be that good a friend. Sid..PLONKER. 6'8 for Kane ther you go.
Da Man said on 18/May/09
Alan Belcher
Alan Belcher
Yaspaa said on 18/May/09
OK, comment has not come up,maybe I forgot to add. The conceitedly named military runt of the litter.. Da Man has been brain washed by the non runts of the litter into believing that MMA fighters are complete geeks and follow octagon rules 24/7,these PROFESSIONAL FIGHTERS who's job it is to live and breathe fighting dont have the mental capacity to forget those rules when their life is in danger and pummel someone,I know you like your quotes,so I'll give you one,THE RULES ARE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FIGHTERS,it is not a hindrance. Soldiers need to know and perform a multitude of things,self defence is ONE of those things. I like the way you brought in "life and death situation",completely irrelevant from the discussion but makes you seem less wrong.
OK, comment has not come up,maybe I forgot to add. The conceitedly named military runt of the litter.. Da Man has been brain washed by the non runts of the litter into believing that MMA fighters are complete geeks and follow octagon rules 24/7,these PROFESSIONAL FIGHTERS who's job it is to live and breathe fighting dont have the mental capacity to forget those rules when their life is in danger and pummel someone,I know you like your quotes,so I'll give you one,THE RULES ARE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FIGHTERS,it is not a hindrance. Soldiers need to know and perform a multitude of things,self defence is ONE of those things. I like the way you brought in "life and death situation",completely irrelevant from the discussion but makes you seem less wrong.
sid said on 18/May/09
Yaspaa Doesn't matter if it's fake.. he has experience once he aplies those moves foreal he can kick ass..Glenn jacobs will pan out well out smarting his fighters in MMA unlike bob sapp all clumsy
Yaspaa Doesn't matter if it's fake.. he has experience once he aplies those moves foreal he can kick ass..Glenn jacobs will pan out well out smarting his fighters in MMA unlike bob sapp all clumsy
Yaspaa said on 18/May/09
Who is this MMA guy you know anyway?
Who is this MMA guy you know anyway?
Yaspaa said on 18/May/09
The discussion isn't a life and death situation it is who would win a fight no rules in the street. You have military family,that explains it,who's biased now?
The discussion isn't a life and death situation it is who would win a fight no rules in the street. You have military family,that explains it,who's biased now?
Yaspaa said on 18/May/09
Haha I have just watched that Kane fight in Japan and I have to say it's completly fake just like Kane.
Haha I have just watched that Kane fight in Japan and I have to say it's completly fake just like Kane.
Yaspaa said on 18/May/09
Cobra we aren't talking about the population we are talking about trained fighters,Hoost was past his prime and has lost plenty and Nog beat Sapp with a triangle or something,Cro Cop beat him and he was down 130lbs. I'll say this Kane can beat 99% of the population.
More contradiction DM,is it quick or methodical? It's stick and run,neutralise and escape, survive. An MMA fighter is way fitter as well. The FBI utilises Krav so watch out George St Pierre,Mulder is coming for you.
Cobra we aren't talking about the population we are talking about trained fighters,Hoost was past his prime and has lost plenty and Nog beat Sapp with a triangle or something,Cro Cop beat him and he was down 130lbs. I'll say this Kane can beat 99% of the population.
More contradiction DM,is it quick or methodical? It's stick and run,neutralise and escape, survive. An MMA fighter is way fitter as well. The FBI utilises Krav so watch out George St Pierre,Mulder is coming for you.
sid said on 18/May/09
Cobra I would say he is 6'8 317 to 320...I think he would have to lose weight to make weight to fight in the ufe, brock had to lose weight to fight someone his weight class.. that was 260...I seen Glenn jacobs on video shoot fight in Japan, which he was pretty good, he out powered a 150 pound jap..shere strengths that out powered him..That guy couldnt knock out kane..People who say Kane would be clumsy is wrong. he doesnt look clumsy now...he never did.
Cobra I would say he is 6'8 317 to 320...I think he would have to lose weight to make weight to fight in the ufe, brock had to lose weight to fight someone his weight class.. that was 260...I seen Glenn jacobs on video shoot fight in Japan, which he was pretty good, he out powered a 150 pound jap..shere strengths that out powered him..That guy couldnt knock out kane..People who say Kane would be clumsy is wrong. he doesnt look clumsy now...he never did.
Cobra said on 18/May/09
sid says on 17/May/09: Kane would fair out well in MMA
Yeah, that`s what I said. Regarding this I think you are right, cause the dude is just too huge- 6ft8,5, by the way.
The listing above is an inch to low.
sid says on 17/May/09: Kane would fair out well in MMA
Yeah, that`s what I said. Regarding this I think you are right, cause the dude is just too huge- 6ft8,5, by the way.
The listing above is an inch to low.
sid said on 17/May/09
Cobra Kane Glenn jacobs is a really smart guy... he was use his smart to out fight them..he wouldnt be all clumsy like sapp..Kane would fair out well in MMA I seen do some techincal moves in japan..and in the WWE every wrestler doesn't matter if it's power guys or not, there trained in basic techincal style to.. Kane did in Japan.. for few years Which I have seen...150 pound man could not knock kane..if a 150 pound try a arm bar..which that jap guy did fighting glenn jacobs in japan..in the early 90's kane got up lifted him up and slammed him., to kane and me 150 pounds is nothing..I might be a internet warrior..i speak my mind out if I have to...I'm a all around warrior in and out of the internet lol..Kane would stand his ground..in a mma fight..If I trained kane..I'm sure his punches would knock me back.. perhaps knock me out..he's 10 inches taller..stonger then I am...I'd still say Kane still benches 500 alteast.Kane is cornfed farm boy natural strength from st louis..where he grew up..
Cobra Kane Glenn jacobs is a really smart guy... he was use his smart to out fight them..he wouldnt be all clumsy like sapp..Kane would fair out well in MMA I seen do some techincal moves in japan..and in the WWE every wrestler doesn't matter if it's power guys or not, there trained in basic techincal style to.. Kane did in Japan.. for few years Which I have seen...150 pound man could not knock kane..if a 150 pound try a arm bar..which that jap guy did fighting glenn jacobs in japan..in the early 90's kane got up lifted him up and slammed him., to kane and me 150 pounds is nothing..I might be a internet warrior..i speak my mind out if I have to...I'm a all around warrior in and out of the internet lol..Kane would stand his ground..in a mma fight..If I trained kane..I'm sure his punches would knock me back.. perhaps knock me out..he's 10 inches taller..stonger then I am...I'd still say Kane still benches 500 alteast.Kane is cornfed farm boy natural strength from st louis..where he grew up..
Da Man said on 17/May/09
Krav has "nothing" to do with wearing the opponent down when methodically? Actually, it emphasizes neutralization without injury (quickness), but beyond that is an emphasis on vulnerability exploitation. I.E. wearing the opponent down methodically. Krav is MEANT to be flexible, it is a survival skill as much as fighting style! One of the training methods of Krav is learn to handle yourself in exhausted and compromised states. There are no rounds in the real world!
Krav has "nothing" to do with wearing the opponent down when methodically? Actually, it emphasizes neutralization without injury (quickness), but beyond that is an emphasis on vulnerability exploitation. I.E. wearing the opponent down methodically. Krav is MEANT to be flexible, it is a survival skill as much as fighting style! One of the training methods of Krav is learn to handle yourself in exhausted and compromised states. There are no rounds in the real world!
Cobra said on 17/May/09
Wow, strong Internet warriors out here.
I won`t argue with Sid cause it doesn`t have sense, to Yaspaa:
Yes, I am saying Kane isn`t clumsy, and Sapp... his fight against Nortje was bad, but ask Ernesto Hoost? Or Nog?
Yeah, Sapp is useless... so useless, he beats 99,999% of the worlds population to pulp... same goes for Kane... including the Internet warriors on celebheights.
End of story.
Wow, strong Internet warriors out here.
I won`t argue with Sid cause it doesn`t have sense, to Yaspaa:
Yes, I am saying Kane isn`t clumsy, and Sapp... his fight against Nortje was bad, but ask Ernesto Hoost? Or Nog?
Yeah, Sapp is useless... so useless, he beats 99,999% of the worlds population to pulp... same goes for Kane... including the Internet warriors on celebheights.
End of story.
jens peter said on 17/May/09
i say arund 6.ft 9
i say arund 6.ft 9
sid said on 17/May/09
Yaspaa I forgot to add in I did PKA kick boxing as well as Mauy thai.. those I was ranked 2 in my city.. and ranked 6th across canada..combat hapkido I did since 75 to 90. 90 on PKA, then wka mauy thai kick boxing... north american style..
Yaspaa I forgot to add in I did PKA kick boxing as well as Mauy thai.. those I was ranked 2 in my city.. and ranked 6th across canada..combat hapkido I did since 75 to 90. 90 on PKA, then wka mauy thai kick boxing... north american style..
Yaspaa said on 17/May/09
Just like Brock Lesnar powered out of that ankle lock from Frank Mir sid.
Just like Brock Lesnar powered out of that ankle lock from Frank Mir sid.
sid said on 17/May/09
Yaspaa Kane would be a smart fighter..he wouldnt be telegraphing his punches... he would use his brain to out smart him. I havn't been in the ring for 10 years I still train everday non stop for self defense and to be always ready...and to keep in shape...I'm still training.. at home..I got 2nd degree black belt in combat hapkido..I was ranked 2 in my city..ranked 6 in across canada..I did Gojo-Ryu for about 1 year and half didnt get far.. I was doing stunt work for that year..no time to train..only trained at the gym and on set..See for me I like a good fight in the streets...Last one was 3 years ago..Weight classes they have, my point is makes more sense then UFC had weight classes not, before they didn't it was a mis match, some prevailed most didn't...weight clases even power or a tad better..why don't u get about that..150 pound guy would stand a chance agaist kane in a mma fight..Kane can out power jokes and arm bars, picks him up with strength. 150 pounds is nothing... he did that in japan. picked up a guy while the jap gave him a arm bar on the ground, kane picked him up and slammed him.. thats called power man..he can still do that.
Yaspaa Kane would be a smart fighter..he wouldnt be telegraphing his punches... he would use his brain to out smart him. I havn't been in the ring for 10 years I still train everday non stop for self defense and to be always ready...and to keep in shape...I'm still training.. at home..I got 2nd degree black belt in combat hapkido..I was ranked 2 in my city..ranked 6 in across canada..I did Gojo-Ryu for about 1 year and half didnt get far.. I was doing stunt work for that year..no time to train..only trained at the gym and on set..See for me I like a good fight in the streets...Last one was 3 years ago..Weight classes they have, my point is makes more sense then UFC had weight classes not, before they didn't it was a mis match, some prevailed most didn't...weight clases even power or a tad better..why don't u get about that..150 pound guy would stand a chance agaist kane in a mma fight..Kane can out power jokes and arm bars, picks him up with strength. 150 pounds is nothing... he did that in japan. picked up a guy while the jap gave him a arm bar on the ground, kane picked him up and slammed him.. thats called power man..he can still do that.
sid said on 17/May/09
The Ben Your getting out of hand, all I said was kane would have a hard punch...Kane would out power the other fighter...kane would have used his strength if he where in the mma..I'm pretty sure he would be smart about fighting to, nothing like bob sapp, using just his no brainer...no game plan..just be big and dumb..and no cardio...
The Ben Your getting out of hand, all I said was kane would have a hard punch...Kane would out power the other fighter...kane would have used his strength if he where in the mma..I'm pretty sure he would be smart about fighting to, nothing like bob sapp, using just his no brainer...no game plan..just be big and dumb..and no cardio...
sid said on 17/May/09
Cobra Actually you it's makes sense, Less weights more reps to cut up..you can't rep out 490 you dullard..I been working out before born probably... you cant rep out 490.. I would cut down 250 to 300 keep it semi heavy I can't rep 12 probably a good 7, then 250 less weight more reps will give you defintion, you had the size from bulking up..cut the fat out, do cardio eat more protien then carbs....I would actually go down to 250 to 300 for more reps...It's true cobra your not gonna use 490 to 500 pounds which you can't lift..I can.. I'm not gonna rep it out, like kane would or big show, mark henry... You know nothing about bodybuilding....You can't expect to bench 490 and look cut..when your lifting dead wood.. that gives you strength and mass, which has no cutness in...mass up in the winters. cut down starting in may..Since I'm not competing, I wouldn't be cutting 2 or 3 months prior to the show, I don't compete, I'm just me following my own plan..it is working great..I stripped already 5 pounds off...I cut down weights mass, to define up...everyone differnt..some people like yourself will never bench much..Theres people on here workout there not benching not nearly as I am...I know what I'm doing before your born probably. Basically your just wishful thinking pensive.. you wish you wanna bench that much you can't....Kane would destroy sapp, sapp is just big and dumb, Kane has skills from japan..he is still quite strong kane.
Cobra Actually you it's makes sense, Less weights more reps to cut up..you can't rep out 490 you dullard..I been working out before born probably... you cant rep out 490.. I would cut down 250 to 300 keep it semi heavy I can't rep 12 probably a good 7, then 250 less weight more reps will give you defintion, you had the size from bulking up..cut the fat out, do cardio eat more protien then carbs....I would actually go down to 250 to 300 for more reps...It's true cobra your not gonna use 490 to 500 pounds which you can't lift..I can.. I'm not gonna rep it out, like kane would or big show, mark henry... You know nothing about bodybuilding....You can't expect to bench 490 and look cut..when your lifting dead wood.. that gives you strength and mass, which has no cutness in...mass up in the winters. cut down starting in may..Since I'm not competing, I wouldn't be cutting 2 or 3 months prior to the show, I don't compete, I'm just me following my own plan..it is working great..I stripped already 5 pounds off...I cut down weights mass, to define up...everyone differnt..some people like yourself will never bench much..Theres people on here workout there not benching not nearly as I am...I know what I'm doing before your born probably. Basically your just wishful thinking pensive.. you wish you wanna bench that much you can't....Kane would destroy sapp, sapp is just big and dumb, Kane has skills from japan..he is still quite strong kane.
MAMUN said on 16/May/09
Thank you The Ben for your insight !
Kind regards
Supermun
Thank you The Ben for your insight !
Kind regards
Supermun
Cobra said on 16/May/09
Sid says: hey summers coming up, I would even use 250 in june for proper form..to build defintion...
You, Sir, just got busted. Because nobody, who knows the basics of Bodybuilding (and if you can bench close to 500, you will LOL) will say something like that. Use lightweight to build definition. LOL. Failed.
Kane is pretty fast, actually. Look at Bob Sapp, for example. He did a lot of damage, and he is pretty clumsy, and he can`t take much, also he gasses fast. IMO Kane would do better than Sapp.
Congrats to Bobby for his first win, we will see how he does against Sapp.
Bobby got angry because his opponent wore a Rey Mysterio mask while walking to the ring LOL.
Kane would have owned Lashley`s opponent too, though.
Sid says: hey summers coming up, I would even use 250 in june for proper form..to build defintion...
You, Sir, just got busted. Because nobody, who knows the basics of Bodybuilding (and if you can bench close to 500, you will LOL) will say something like that. Use lightweight to build definition. LOL. Failed.
Kane is pretty fast, actually. Look at Bob Sapp, for example. He did a lot of damage, and he is pretty clumsy, and he can`t take much, also he gasses fast. IMO Kane would do better than Sapp.
Congrats to Bobby for his first win, we will see how he does against Sapp.
Bobby got angry because his opponent wore a Rey Mysterio mask while walking to the ring LOL.
Kane would have owned Lashley`s opponent too, though.
Da Man said on 16/May/09
Krav is designed to give you an advantage over another TRAINED solider that is trying to KILL you, not one that is trying to submit you or score a decision over you. I don't know where you get the idea that Krav was designed and evolved to give you an advantage over an average joe. It's just not true.
Krav borrows elements from numerous martial arts, includng Mua Thai, BJJ, Judo, Akido, and Boxing. Krav teaches you how to wear an opponent down methodically, it teaches you survival skills, it teaches you to recognize and exploit any and all vulnerabilites, and most importantly it teaches you how to use the environment to your advantage. MMA figthers DO NOT train to maim, they DO NOT train to use the environment (except in usage of octagon cage vs. roped ring).
Krav isn't part of a pro MMA fighter's in-ring repertoire because it doesn't LEND itself to scoring the decision in a regulated environment. NOT because it isn't effective! Facts are facts Yaspaa, if modern MMA was the end-all be-all Isreali and British Special Forces, the FBI, the military, Mossad, etc. would all just send their recruits to the Lion's Den. Fact is they don't. Professional MMA has become tailored TO THE RING. Everything these guys do and train for revolves around venue rules, and scoring the victory within the context of the venue. These guys don't train to be as deadly as possible, because that doesn't lend itself to professional MMA. It's not about being an MMA fan, I'm a BIG MMA FAN, but you just need to realize this stuff has become so refined that it just isn't the most practical fighting style in all scenarios.
Krav is designed to give you an advantage over another TRAINED solider that is trying to KILL you, not one that is trying to submit you or score a decision over you. I don't know where you get the idea that Krav was designed and evolved to give you an advantage over an average joe. It's just not true.
Krav borrows elements from numerous martial arts, includng Mua Thai, BJJ, Judo, Akido, and Boxing. Krav teaches you how to wear an opponent down methodically, it teaches you survival skills, it teaches you to recognize and exploit any and all vulnerabilites, and most importantly it teaches you how to use the environment to your advantage. MMA figthers DO NOT train to maim, they DO NOT train to use the environment (except in usage of octagon cage vs. roped ring).
Krav isn't part of a pro MMA fighter's in-ring repertoire because it doesn't LEND itself to scoring the decision in a regulated environment. NOT because it isn't effective! Facts are facts Yaspaa, if modern MMA was the end-all be-all Isreali and British Special Forces, the FBI, the military, Mossad, etc. would all just send their recruits to the Lion's Den. Fact is they don't. Professional MMA has become tailored TO THE RING. Everything these guys do and train for revolves around venue rules, and scoring the victory within the context of the venue. These guys don't train to be as deadly as possible, because that doesn't lend itself to professional MMA. It's not about being an MMA fan, I'm a BIG MMA FAN, but you just need to realize this stuff has become so refined that it just isn't the most practical fighting style in all scenarios.
Yaspaa said on 16/May/09
Hi Mamun,Brock and Lashley are both phenomenal athletes,powerful and explosive. Kane just doesn't have the mobility to survive,his legs would be a prime target injured or not plus Brock was a very successful world class amateur and thats a great base for MMA,both Brock and Lashley are far more formidable because of the MMA. Shelton Benjamin,he could do well
DM,we are talking about a fair fight on the street one on one,using the swimming comparison is similar to giving the Krav guy a knife, it's a fact that Krav is to give an edge over the average guy,this is what it is for. Anderson Silva has a Gym apparently that amongst other things teaches Krav but it isn't part of his usable repertoire because he's a trained fighter and doesn't need those techniques in the ring or out,same thing with some of the other guys you mentioned,Bonner hurt his leg doing Krav for a movie,he wasn't training for himself.
Hi Mamun,Brock and Lashley are both phenomenal athletes,powerful and explosive. Kane just doesn't have the mobility to survive,his legs would be a prime target injured or not plus Brock was a very successful world class amateur and thats a great base for MMA,both Brock and Lashley are far more formidable because of the MMA. Shelton Benjamin,he could do well
DM,we are talking about a fair fight on the street one on one,using the swimming comparison is similar to giving the Krav guy a knife, it's a fact that Krav is to give an edge over the average guy,this is what it is for. Anderson Silva has a Gym apparently that amongst other things teaches Krav but it isn't part of his usable repertoire because he's a trained fighter and doesn't need those techniques in the ring or out,same thing with some of the other guys you mentioned,Bonner hurt his leg doing Krav for a movie,he wasn't training for himself.
JT said on 16/May/09
IMO, MMA is popular and being given credibility for a simple reason - boxing (especially the heavyweight division) is pathetic. Most of these MMA guys would crap in their pants and turn tail if they ever saw a bare-knuckled Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis across the ring. I do believe an MMA heavyweight with a top amateur wrestling background would be tough to beat if he could avoid the punches.
IMO, MMA is popular and being given credibility for a simple reason - boxing (especially the heavyweight division) is pathetic. Most of these MMA guys would crap in their pants and turn tail if they ever saw a bare-knuckled Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis across the ring. I do believe an MMA heavyweight with a top amateur wrestling background would be tough to beat if he could avoid the punches.
The Ben said on 16/May/09
I dont think the MMA WWE Military argument can really be proved any way...
Im bowing out, it was fun though!!!
I dont think the MMA WWE Military argument can really be proved any way...
Im bowing out, it was fun though!!!
The Ben said on 16/May/09
Mamun
Lashley was a college wrestler, Kane wasn't...and lashley is 32 (i think) lashley was also a major steroid guy..he wrestled amature at 180 lbs..
Lashley is also a great natural athlete... there are plenty of guys in wwe who i think could do well in MMA... i just dont think kane is one of them.... Its only my opinion and i know i could be wrong... our question will never be answered..
Lashley spent 2 or 3yrs as a pro wrestler and he wrestled amature for20yrs... so is far more amature wrestler then wwe... same goes for lesnar.
I'll be looking for lashleys fight on youtube, i honestly love pro wrestling for what it is and i think its great when pro wrestlers do well in mma..
I cant wait for ufc 100 and im really hoping lesnar (6'2.5 in my opinion) walks right through mir..
Mamun.. if you'd said the ultimate warrior would have destroyed everyone in MMA and UFC i would agree fully on that one!!!
Mamun
Lashley was a college wrestler, Kane wasn't...and lashley is 32 (i think) lashley was also a major steroid guy..he wrestled amature at 180 lbs..
Lashley is also a great natural athlete... there are plenty of guys in wwe who i think could do well in MMA... i just dont think kane is one of them.... Its only my opinion and i know i could be wrong... our question will never be answered..
Lashley spent 2 or 3yrs as a pro wrestler and he wrestled amature for20yrs... so is far more amature wrestler then wwe... same goes for lesnar.
I'll be looking for lashleys fight on youtube, i honestly love pro wrestling for what it is and i think its great when pro wrestlers do well in mma..
I cant wait for ufc 100 and im really hoping lesnar (6'2.5 in my opinion) walks right through mir..
Mamun.. if you'd said the ultimate warrior would have destroyed everyone in MMA and UFC i would agree fully on that one!!!
Da Man said on 16/May/09
The Ben says,
"saying a military guy would beat an mma guy is exactly the same as saying that a navy seal could beat michael phelps in a swimming race."
It's really more like saying a Navy Seal could beat Micheal Phelps in a swimming race that included 50 pounds of gear, during the night, in an unknown environment with waves, wind, rain and currents. And they would. Within a closed swimming pool, in perfect conditions with roped off lanes, with a cute little skull cap and speedo Phelps would win every time. Same thing with battle field survival between a someone like a Green Beret/Delta Force and a pro-MMA fighter. The pro MMA fighter trains for perfect conditions, it's what their training regimen primarily revolves around.
The Ben says,
"saying a military guy would beat an mma guy is exactly the same as saying that a navy seal could beat michael phelps in a swimming race."
It's really more like saying a Navy Seal could beat Micheal Phelps in a swimming race that included 50 pounds of gear, during the night, in an unknown environment with waves, wind, rain and currents. And they would. Within a closed swimming pool, in perfect conditions with roped off lanes, with a cute little skull cap and speedo Phelps would win every time. Same thing with battle field survival between a someone like a Green Beret/Delta Force and a pro-MMA fighter. The pro MMA fighter trains for perfect conditions, it's what their training regimen primarily revolves around.
MAMUN said on 16/May/09
My friend " The Ben " ! Can you explain to me why WWF superstars Kick MMA
fighters ASS every time they stwitch over to the other side ? Boby Lashly
just won his third fight in just 24 seconds and his record is 3-0 ? His
opponents were making fun of pro wrestling and found out the hard way it
wasn't in their best interest to do so ? If Kane went to the other side
it will only take him 12 seconds to knock-out some body he didn't like !
Regards
Supermun
My friend " The Ben " ! Can you explain to me why WWF superstars Kick MMA
fighters ASS every time they stwitch over to the other side ? Boby Lashly
just won his third fight in just 24 seconds and his record is 3-0 ? His
opponents were making fun of pro wrestling and found out the hard way it
wasn't in their best interest to do so ? If Kane went to the other side
it will only take him 12 seconds to knock-out some body he didn't like !
Regards
Supermun
Yaspaa said on 16/May/09
Sid,I studied Shotokan Karate for 5 years,granted I dont train now but I competed in 17 tournaments through my late teens and early 20's of semi and full contact. I've trained and been graded by Andy Sherry,Frank Brennan (World Full Contact Champion,who was and probably still is a complete tosser) and the late great Enoeda,I've dabbled in other styles too. Yet again you assume and are wrong,why do you feel the need to keep reminding people of what you can do? You obviously lack confidence in the real world. Big muscles equals lots of toxin build up equals you dont last long. I'm sure Kane can hit hard but he will be slow and he will telegraph horribly.
4-way debate,loving it.
Sid,I studied Shotokan Karate for 5 years,granted I dont train now but I competed in 17 tournaments through my late teens and early 20's of semi and full contact. I've trained and been graded by Andy Sherry,Frank Brennan (World Full Contact Champion,who was and probably still is a complete tosser) and the late great Enoeda,I've dabbled in other styles too. Yet again you assume and are wrong,why do you feel the need to keep reminding people of what you can do? You obviously lack confidence in the real world. Big muscles equals lots of toxin build up equals you dont last long. I'm sure Kane can hit hard but he will be slow and he will telegraph horribly.
4-way debate,loving it.
The Ben said on 16/May/09
saying a military guy would beat an mma guy is exactly the same as saying that a navy seal could beat michael phelps in a swimming race.
Or win an olympic marathon race..
Its like saying they could shoot better then an olympic standard shooter..
Im sure there are some amazing specially trained drivers in the forces but they wouldn't beat a pro racing driver..
Proffesional athletes train for one purpose all day every day..
Military people have to train for so many aspects that its not possible for them to give the time to be as good as a pro athlets....
when they leave the forces then with the right training maybe they could be competitive against a ufc fighter....
And i believe kane is 6'8 tops..
saying a military guy would beat an mma guy is exactly the same as saying that a navy seal could beat michael phelps in a swimming race.
Or win an olympic marathon race..
Its like saying they could shoot better then an olympic standard shooter..
Im sure there are some amazing specially trained drivers in the forces but they wouldn't beat a pro racing driver..
Proffesional athletes train for one purpose all day every day..
Military people have to train for so many aspects that its not possible for them to give the time to be as good as a pro athlets....
when they leave the forces then with the right training maybe they could be competitive against a ufc fighter....
And i believe kane is 6'8 tops..
Yaspaa said on 16/May/09
Sid I didn't mention anything about a lightweight fighting a super heavyweight,as usual you make things up to suit your own argument,at least DM's theory is intelligent enough to be taken seriously.
I'm Sid,"Errr,I've got massive arms,err,I hit some dude,err I'm a fighter,err Your pretty."
Sid I didn't mention anything about a lightweight fighting a super heavyweight,as usual you make things up to suit your own argument,at least DM's theory is intelligent enough to be taken seriously.
I'm Sid,"Errr,I've got massive arms,err,I hit some dude,err I'm a fighter,err Your pretty."
Yaspaa said on 16/May/09
You cant use that as an example,cro cop is a kicker who got beat by a larger kicker. Randy Couture has been fighting in the UFC for a long time and he has won plenty and lost plenty where the rules have stayed the same. A navy seal wouldn't go toe to toe,he'd hide and slice his throught.
Sid, power is generated by speed not a bench press,heavy bench pressing makes you slow and many times can you spell throat incorrectly. Speaking of cro cop,a couple of kicks to the legs and kane would again go down.
You cant use that as an example,cro cop is a kicker who got beat by a larger kicker. Randy Couture has been fighting in the UFC for a long time and he has won plenty and lost plenty where the rules have stayed the same. A navy seal wouldn't go toe to toe,he'd hide and slice his throught.
Sid, power is generated by speed not a bench press,heavy bench pressing makes you slow and many times can you spell throat incorrectly. Speaking of cro cop,a couple of kicks to the legs and kane would again go down.
sid said on 16/May/09
Da man
Yasspa You have no experience in hand to hand combat, I do.. I seen lots of it in my days and now..74 thats 35 years of doing it, I train on the bag, workout..I'm still training..workout next day, other day punch the bag...Point is I been fighting for years..you have no fighting experience...Thats why Martial arts and boxing has weight classes, so they almost can be equal or a tad better in there own divison.duh..150 pound guy fighting a 300 pound guy, 300 pound guy will out box him, and power...duh..weight clases man...you need to put thinking cap on..you have no experiences..Any fighter knows there weight classes, or else it would be a mis match...You have no experienc yet you talk abou fighting.. person who works out, wouldn't have a strong punch, person who has lots strength would have a strong punch such as myself..I emblesh my 500 like 490 not exact 500 bench press for my power to work on the streets and the bag, 490 is my max, I don't know if I'll ever do 500, I don't always do my max, I usually workout with 300 to 350 more reps, to build..I would use 490 on building mass, which I did my last mass faze last week. Now it's cutting up faze more reps... hey summers coming up, I would even use 250 in june for proper form..to build defintion...then hit the bag for a hour, then do my kata, then weapons..then skip rope, then bike...punch my speed bag, double end bag..I'm still training, but by myself, thats all I need, you got the stuff, why not use it...Workout gives you the strength you need to punch or kick.. Kane makes a fist..he hits you with full force using his hips, which im sure he knows how to, cause he trained in japan, your a goner.
Da man
Yasspa You have no experience in hand to hand combat, I do.. I seen lots of it in my days and now..74 thats 35 years of doing it, I train on the bag, workout..I'm still training..workout next day, other day punch the bag...Point is I been fighting for years..you have no fighting experience...Thats why Martial arts and boxing has weight classes, so they almost can be equal or a tad better in there own divison.duh..150 pound guy fighting a 300 pound guy, 300 pound guy will out box him, and power...duh..weight clases man...you need to put thinking cap on..you have no experiences..Any fighter knows there weight classes, or else it would be a mis match...You have no experienc yet you talk abou fighting.. person who works out, wouldn't have a strong punch, person who has lots strength would have a strong punch such as myself..I emblesh my 500 like 490 not exact 500 bench press for my power to work on the streets and the bag, 490 is my max, I don't know if I'll ever do 500, I don't always do my max, I usually workout with 300 to 350 more reps, to build..I would use 490 on building mass, which I did my last mass faze last week. Now it's cutting up faze more reps... hey summers coming up, I would even use 250 in june for proper form..to build defintion...then hit the bag for a hour, then do my kata, then weapons..then skip rope, then bike...punch my speed bag, double end bag..I'm still training, but by myself, thats all I need, you got the stuff, why not use it...Workout gives you the strength you need to punch or kick.. Kane makes a fist..he hits you with full force using his hips, which im sure he knows how to, cause he trained in japan, your a goner.
Da Man said on 15/May/09
Yaspaa, it's not crazy at all. Look at how Cro Cop did in the UFC, look at how Liddell did in Pride, there's only MINOR differences from Pride to UFC. Don't kid yourself into thinking these guys don't hardcore within the context of venue rules. Now eliminate ALL rules, like some other fighting styles do, and the pro-MMA fighter is at a disadvantage. I am a HUGE MMA fan, but I can see past bias.
Yaspaa, it's not crazy at all. Look at how Cro Cop did in the UFC, look at how Liddell did in Pride, there's only MINOR differences from Pride to UFC. Don't kid yourself into thinking these guys don't hardcore within the context of venue rules. Now eliminate ALL rules, like some other fighting styles do, and the pro-MMA fighter is at a disadvantage. I am a HUGE MMA fan, but I can see past bias.
Da Man said on 15/May/09
The Ben, the 1st UFC event participants would get destroyed by today's fighters *in the octagon*! That's been proven time and time again. Professional MMA has morphed into something quite a bit more specialized since those days. Specialized for the rules and environment of the octagon!
You aren't getting what I am saying, dude. No single style is going to beat a modern, professional MMA fighter consistently within the context *of the octagon*. The thing is, the real world doesn't always include an octagon, 4 oz gloves, a mouthpiece, a cut guy, a clock, rounds, a referee, judges, rules, etc. and that's why other fighting styles retain relevance in the *real world*. Put an pro MMA fighter out in the woods with a Navy Seal, Israeli special Forces, tell them to kill the other using whatever means necessary, and my money would be on the military guy. If you're smart, yours would be too. :)
The Ben, the 1st UFC event participants would get destroyed by today's fighters *in the octagon*! That's been proven time and time again. Professional MMA has morphed into something quite a bit more specialized since those days. Specialized for the rules and environment of the octagon!
You aren't getting what I am saying, dude. No single style is going to beat a modern, professional MMA fighter consistently within the context *of the octagon*. The thing is, the real world doesn't always include an octagon, 4 oz gloves, a mouthpiece, a cut guy, a clock, rounds, a referee, judges, rules, etc. and that's why other fighting styles retain relevance in the *real world*. Put an pro MMA fighter out in the woods with a Navy Seal, Israeli special Forces, tell them to kill the other using whatever means necessary, and my money would be on the military guy. If you're smart, yours would be too. :)
sid said on 15/May/09
Da Man I hit a person in a street fight, it's easy all people do is punch in street fights, or it goes to the ground, you hit a knife hand to the troat, or your thumb to his troat is possible, i did it, theres plethora of things that isn't possible to do, you make it sound like it's impossible, well thats just negative thinking...I am fighter, I fight on the streets, All though I'm not fighting in the ring no more, my knees are shot, i still got my fists, no 1 rule never kick in street fights. You need have postive thinking, if I can hit the troat, anyone can..I throw a elbow, or knife hand, or thumb to the troat, they would suspect anything.
Da Man I hit a person in a street fight, it's easy all people do is punch in street fights, or it goes to the ground, you hit a knife hand to the troat, or your thumb to his troat is possible, i did it, theres plethora of things that isn't possible to do, you make it sound like it's impossible, well thats just negative thinking...I am fighter, I fight on the streets, All though I'm not fighting in the ring no more, my knees are shot, i still got my fists, no 1 rule never kick in street fights. You need have postive thinking, if I can hit the troat, anyone can..I throw a elbow, or knife hand, or thumb to the troat, they would suspect anything.
sid said on 15/May/09
Yaspaa You don't know nothing about fighting I do, I been training since 75 longer then you have man, person who is strong, would have a strong punch, I hit my little brother lol don't have a little sister. When I got into a scrap, I use that power I had, from working out and training for years in the martial arts, to knock this guy out. I trained people who are strong, they never had any experience.. they had strong punches...Kane would pan out well..he makes a fist..he hits you.. your a goner..that doesn't mean he is a good fighter. Kane would use his strenth to out power his opponents....as much as possible..I been training for 35 years... since I was a kid. I know what I'm saying. No your full of it, I seen fights miss matched, 150 pound guy doesn't have enough power to knock out Kane in square in the jaw, thats why they have weight classes yaspaa any real fighter would know that..they fight in there own weight classes.. You don't know diddly about fighting yaspaa I do.. remember weight classes...why would a light weight fight a super heavy weight, its missed matched, power is differnt, I fought a guy who is around 150 or more, he was out boxed and out powered I seen that too many times to know it..power does matter...you can't assume diddly if u dont have any experience. your the load of crap. boy.
Yaspaa You don't know nothing about fighting I do, I been training since 75 longer then you have man, person who is strong, would have a strong punch, I hit my little brother lol don't have a little sister. When I got into a scrap, I use that power I had, from working out and training for years in the martial arts, to knock this guy out. I trained people who are strong, they never had any experience.. they had strong punches...Kane would pan out well..he makes a fist..he hits you.. your a goner..that doesn't mean he is a good fighter. Kane would use his strenth to out power his opponents....as much as possible..I been training for 35 years... since I was a kid. I know what I'm saying. No your full of it, I seen fights miss matched, 150 pound guy doesn't have enough power to knock out Kane in square in the jaw, thats why they have weight classes yaspaa any real fighter would know that..they fight in there own weight classes.. You don't know diddly about fighting yaspaa I do.. remember weight classes...why would a light weight fight a super heavy weight, its missed matched, power is differnt, I fought a guy who is around 150 or more, he was out boxed and out powered I seen that too many times to know it..power does matter...you can't assume diddly if u dont have any experience. your the load of crap. boy.
Yaspaa said on 15/May/09
But there are no rules on the street so they wouldn't have to adapt to a new set of rules, they would just go for it,it's not called ultimate fighting for nothing. They have to deprogram to be able to fight on the street,thats just crazy,what you are saying is that an MMA fighter is no good outside the octagon,do you really think that an MMA guy is going to be worried about kicking a downed opponent in the head if he feels his safety is in danger,in the octagon they keep punching and kicking until the ref pulls them off,on the streets there are no refs. Anyway as usual this is going nowhere,catch you on more pleasant terms on the Welling page.
But there are no rules on the street so they wouldn't have to adapt to a new set of rules, they would just go for it,it's not called ultimate fighting for nothing. They have to deprogram to be able to fight on the street,thats just crazy,what you are saying is that an MMA fighter is no good outside the octagon,do you really think that an MMA guy is going to be worried about kicking a downed opponent in the head if he feels his safety is in danger,in the octagon they keep punching and kicking until the ref pulls them off,on the streets there are no refs. Anyway as usual this is going nowhere,catch you on more pleasant terms on the Welling page.
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