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5ft 8.49in (174cm)
5ft 8.49in (174cm)
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/17
I'll just add to my previous post that I'm saying 5'9" in his prime, but by the last few years of the war with his health deteriorating rapidly with Parkinson's and coronary sclerosis, there's a good chance he would have lost at least 1 cm.
I'll just add to my previous post that I'm saying 5'9" in his prime, but by the last few years of the war with his health deteriorating rapidly with Parkinson's and coronary sclerosis, there's a good chance he would have lost at least 1 cm.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/17
I compared Hitler to all the heights measured by the allies and on average, I'd say Hitler looked a good 176 compared to them. The Goring comparison is an example of this since to the best of my knowledge, Goring was supposedly 5'10", but I'll have to look into that more when I have a chance. Of course, this is without knowing if they were barefoot measurements, but Hitler himself was specifically recorded by his doctor as having measured 5'9" in socks. I see no reason to doubt this or the accuracy of the measurement, but I will concede I don't know how long Hitler had been awake. Had it been not long after rising, then he would be closer to 173-174 range. I didn't use the term "morning height" because Hitler did not keep normal hours. I'll eventually look through the other information published on Hitler's medical records and Morrell's diary to see what the specific metric figure was said to be. Until some sort of further information, I can believe 5'9", though. This is about as good of a full side by side pic as we can expect from that period and Hitler looks only about 1 cm shorter than 5'10" Ribbentrop: Click Here On the other hand, here is another full photo where Ribbentrop looks at least 3 taller and has worse posture: Click Here As I've said in the past, I think Rob's 174 listing is probably the safest compromise short of new information or some additional validation of the information we have, though personally, I'm sticking to 5'9" for now.
I compared Hitler to all the heights measured by the allies and on average, I'd say Hitler looked a good 176 compared to them. The Goring comparison is an example of this since to the best of my knowledge, Goring was supposedly 5'10", but I'll have to look into that more when I have a chance. Of course, this is without knowing if they were barefoot measurements, but Hitler himself was specifically recorded by his doctor as having measured 5'9" in socks. I see no reason to doubt this or the accuracy of the measurement, but I will concede I don't know how long Hitler had been awake. Had it been not long after rising, then he would be closer to 173-174 range. I didn't use the term "morning height" because Hitler did not keep normal hours. I'll eventually look through the other information published on Hitler's medical records and Morrell's diary to see what the specific metric figure was said to be. Until some sort of further information, I can believe 5'9", though. This is about as good of a full side by side pic as we can expect from that period and Hitler looks only about 1 cm shorter than 5'10" Ribbentrop: Click Here On the other hand, here is another full photo where Ribbentrop looks at least 3 taller and has worse posture: Click Here As I've said in the past, I think Rob's 174 listing is probably the safest compromise short of new information or some additional validation of the information we have, though personally, I'm sticking to 5'9" for now.
Grey said on 23/Aug/17
@Rising-174 Hitler looks 173-174 cm.Gรถring in comparison with Hitler looks shorter than Hitler or the same height as Hitler. But considering his weight and not the best posture I can give him extra 1-2 cm. So in conclusion Gรถring was max 175-6 cm. So it's approx. 1 inch below what he stated-178 cm. It's more probable he's measured 5ft10 with shoes on and(or) in the morning, his height rounded up etc. Rob, do you mind creating a page for Gรถring in the near future?
@Rising-174 Hitler looks 173-174 cm.Gรถring in comparison with Hitler looks shorter than Hitler or the same height as Hitler. But considering his weight and not the best posture I can give him extra 1-2 cm. So in conclusion Gรถring was max 175-6 cm. So it's approx. 1 inch below what he stated-178 cm. It's more probable he's measured 5ft10 with shoes on and(or) in the morning, his height rounded up etc. Rob, do you mind creating a page for Gรถring in the near future?
James said on 22/Aug/17
It's possible Goering's 1914 height measurement of 5'10" was when he was wearing shoes.
It's possible Goering's 1914 height measurement of 5'10" was when he was wearing shoes.
Sandy Cowell said on 21/Aug/17
@ Chris Kenya - 5ft8? I agree with you there! ๐๐๐ป
@ Chris Kenya - 5ft8? I agree with you there! ๐๐๐ป
Rising - 174 cm said on 20/Aug/17
@Grey: If Hitler's height is in question then using him as a reference to determine Goฬring's height is flawed. I agree on the height difference, but that's because I believe Hitler was 5'9" and Goฬring more like 5'10". I'll check David Irving's Goฬring bio when I have a chance. He mentions Goฬring's exact weights(which fluctuated wildly) in his Nuremberg book so there's a good chance he had access to his medical records as well.
@Grey: If Hitler's height is in question then using him as a reference to determine Goฬring's height is flawed. I agree on the height difference, but that's because I believe Hitler was 5'9" and Goฬring more like 5'10". I'll check David Irving's Goฬring bio when I have a chance. He mentions Goฬring's exact weights(which fluctuated wildly) in his Nuremberg book so there's a good chance he had access to his medical records as well.
MrFish said on 20/Aug/17
Rob, would you say that it's likely that he was my height?
Editor Rob
Rob, would you say that it's likely that he was my height?
Editor Rob it's arguable, he certainly would - in his 30's - look similar range in a photo I feel.
Chris Kenya said on 19/Aug/17
Hitler was 5.8 I agree
Hitler was 5.8 I agree
James said on 14/Aug/17
Mussolini was 5'6.5" so Hitler was easily 5'10".
Mussolini was 5'6.5" so Hitler was easily 5'10".
Grey said on 6/Aug/17
Haven't look at them, although Chamberlain doesn't seem taller than 6ft
Haven't look at them, although Chamberlain doesn't seem taller than 6ft
Doubtful said on 5/Aug/17
@Grey
What do you think about the height of Neville Chamberlain and Prince Charles?
@Grey
What do you think about the height of Neville Chamberlain and Prince Charles?
Nik said on 5/Aug/17
@ Grey
Spot on!
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@ Grey
Spot on!
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Grey said on 4/Aug/17
Your statements fall into range of speculations.Hitler was 173-174, and that's a fact. He looks that tall. Goering looks 174-175 maximum if we compare him to Hitler. That's all.
Your statements fall into range of speculations.Hitler was 173-174, and that's a fact. He looks that tall. Goering looks 174-175 maximum if we compare him to Hitler. That's all.
Doubtful said on 4/Aug/17
@Grey
That's speculation. Is there at least one indication?
@Grey
That's speculation. Is there at least one indication?
Nik said on 4/Aug/17
@ Doubtful
I agree with Grey.
@ Doubtful
I agree with Grey.
Doubtful said on 3/Aug/17
@Nik
The Gรถring data is from the U.S. Army, a national institution, and is therefore reliable. If they faked his height, they would have made him shorter, not taller.
The height of diplomat Franz von Sonnleithner is mentioned in his memoirs on page 83.
@Nik
The Gรถring data is from the U.S. Army, a national institution, and is therefore reliable. If they faked his height, they would have made him shorter, not taller.
The height of diplomat Franz von Sonnleithner is mentioned in his memoirs on page 83.
Grey said on 3/Aug/17
Doubtful, Hitler was 173-174, Goering 174-175 cm at most
Doubtful, Hitler was 173-174, Goering 174-175 cm at most
Nik said on 2/Aug/17
@ Doubtful
But how do you know the other people are as tall as they are claimed to be?
@ Doubtful
But how do you know the other people are as tall as they are claimed to be?
Doubtful said on 1/Aug/17
@Nik
The fact that Gรถring was measured to be 1.78 m tall. Click Here
The fact that there is a photo showing Hitler and a 1.76 m tall diplomat shaking each other's hands. Click Here
The fact that Morell estimated Hitler's height to be ca. 1.76 m. Click Here
The fact that the allegedly 1.88 m tall Neville Chamberlain was about as tall as Hitler. (No, I don't claim that Hitler stood 1.88 m. ;-) I want to emphasize the reason why we think that Chamberlain was taller. It's because he had a slimmer build.)
@Nik
The fact that Gรถring was measured to be 1.78 m tall. Click Here
The fact that there is a photo showing Hitler and a 1.76 m tall diplomat shaking each other's hands. Click Here
The fact that Morell estimated Hitler's height to be ca. 1.76 m. Click Here
The fact that the allegedly 1.88 m tall Neville Chamberlain was about as tall as Hitler. (No, I don't claim that Hitler stood 1.88 m. ;-) I want to emphasize the reason why we think that Chamberlain was taller. It's because he had a slimmer build.)
James said on 1/Aug/17
He gained weight during Operation Citadel.
He gained weight during Operation Citadel.
Nik said on 1/Aug/17
@ Doubtful
And the facts are...?
@ Doubtful
And the facts are...?
Slim 182 cm said on 31/Jul/17
Spot on listing tbh but I'm not sure about the weight, he looked like a Skinny-fat guy. Maybe 69 kg.
Spot on listing tbh but I'm not sure about the weight, he looked like a Skinny-fat guy. Maybe 69 kg.
Slim 182 cm said on 29/Jul/17
Perfect listing imo, may be a quarter inch around, but no more.
Perfect listing imo, may be a quarter inch around, but no more.
Doubtful said on 28/Jul/17
@Nik
You give him a flat 5'8" because you don't rely on facts.
@Nik
You give him a flat 5'8" because you don't rely on facts.
Nik said on 27/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi!
When is it voting time for:
๐! And ๐ค! ?
I am going to give him a flat 5'8"!
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi!
When is it voting time for:
๐! And ๐ค! ?
I am going to give him a flat 5'8"!
MJKoP said on 23/Jul/17
You're right, Rob...I guess it's just hard to accurately gauge someone's credibility when they lie about other, much more important things. He could've been a flat 5'9er", but I'd go more with a fraction under, perhaps 5'8.8" :D
Okay, on an even lighter note, here's a pretty popular meme that was being spread around. Some people just need a little more celebheights.com in their lives. :)
Click Here
Editor Rob
You're right, Rob...I guess it's just hard to accurately gauge someone's credibility when they lie about other, much more important things. He could've been a flat 5'9er", but I'd go more with a fraction under, perhaps 5'8.8" :D
Okay, on an even lighter note, here's a pretty popular meme that was being spread around. Some people just need a little more celebheights.com in their lives. :)
Click Here
Editor Rob I think Hitler had a far greater chance of hitting 5ft 8 than Jolie!
Doubtful said on 23/Jul/17
Here is a photo of Hitler shaking hands with a diplomat: Click Here. The diplomat was 176 cm tall: Click Here. We see Hitler standing with poor posture. So, he was a bit taller than the diplomat. He had poor posture since the lost battle of Stalingrad, and it got worse after the 20 July plot, and perhaps he had parkinson, which causes poor posture.
Here is a photo of Hitler shaking hands with a diplomat: Click Here. The diplomat was 176 cm tall: Click Here. We see Hitler standing with poor posture. So, he was a bit taller than the diplomat. He had poor posture since the lost battle of Stalingrad, and it got worse after the 20 July plot, and perhaps he had parkinson, which causes poor posture.
Doubtful said on 23/Jul/17
@MJKoP Hitler was never measured by the SS. There was no need for it because he was no SS member.
@Sam L We falsely assume that Neville Chamberlain was taller than Hitler because Chamberlain had a slimmer build (ectomorph).
@MJKoP Hitler was never measured by the SS. There was no need for it because he was no SS member.
@Sam L We falsely assume that Neville Chamberlain was taller than Hitler because Chamberlain had a slimmer build (ectomorph).
MJKoP said on 22/Jul/17
Just a friendly remind, Rob: David Irving may not be the go-to guy for quotes if you're actively in pursuit of the utmost level of credibility. :-/
Just a friendly remind, Rob: David Irving may not be the go-to guy for quotes if you're actively in pursuit of the utmost level of credibility. :-/
James said on 21/Jul/17
He was clearly taller than Field Marshal von Rundstedt.
It is hilarious how after the war Rundstedt tried to blame Hitler for the Halt Order at Dunkirk, when it was actually issued by Rundstedt himself.
He was clearly taller than Field Marshal von Rundstedt.
It is hilarious how after the war Rundstedt tried to blame Hitler for the Halt Order at Dunkirk, when it was actually issued by Rundstedt himself.
Nik said on 20/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell
How tall do you think Adolf is?
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@ Sandy Cowell
How tall do you think Adolf is?
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ok said on 19/Jul/17
What is his "modern" height?
What is his "modern" height?
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jul/17
@ Nik! Yes, I couldn't have put it better myself! ๐๐
Neither could he! ๐
Nor she! ๐ฆ
@ Nik! Yes, I couldn't have put it better myself! ๐๐
Neither could he! ๐
Nor she! ๐ฆ
Nik said on 18/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell- Hi!
I agree with you, it's best not to bother if this is the only "man" available! He was probably around the 5'8" mark!
@ Sandy Cowell- Hi!
I agree with you, it's best not to bother if this is the only "man" available! He was probably around the 5'8" mark!
James said on 18/Jul/17
However if Hitler was actually 5'10" then Goring was easily 5'10" as well.
However if Hitler was actually 5'10" then Goring was easily 5'10" as well.
Sandy Cowell said on 18/Jul/17
If this is what nature offers women who are looking out for a 'man', I'd rather not bother! There are plenty of prime specimens of phyton, earthworms or Adders Black that would turn my head sooner than this one, 5ft8 or not!
If this is what nature offers women who are looking out for a 'man', I'd rather not bother! There are plenty of prime specimens of phyton, earthworms or Adders Black that would turn my head sooner than this one, 5ft8 or not!
Slim 182 cm said on 17/Jul/17
This man was a Strong 5'8.
This man was a Strong 5'8.
James said on 17/Jul/17
Chamberlain was 70 when the UK and France declared war.
Chamberlain was 70 when the UK and France declared war.
Sam L said on 16/Jul/17
I have just seen a picture of Hitler standing next the Chamberlain. They appear to be of similar height, yet Chamberlain is listed on google as 1.88m.That listing is laughable.
I have just seen a picture of Hitler standing next the Chamberlain. They appear to be of similar height, yet Chamberlain is listed on google as 1.88m.That listing is laughable.
Grey said on 16/Jul/17
Accept it, Gรถring was at most 5ft9 guy. James, he may also br measured in boots, get rounded up and so on.
Accept it, Gรถring was at most 5ft9 guy. James, he may also br measured in boots, get rounded up and so on.
James said on 16/Jul/17
Goring might not have been measured as 5'10" in 1914. Perhaps he just gave the Air Force that height?
Goring might not have been measured as 5'10" in 1914. Perhaps he just gave the Air Force that height?
Doubtful said on 16/Jul/17
We can check if Hitler's height was or was near to 1.78 m (his doctor Morell estimated 1.76 m) by placing a photo of him next to a photo of Prince Charles, who measures c. 5'10" and has a similar physique.
We can check if Hitler's height was or was near to 1.78 m (his doctor Morell estimated 1.76 m) by placing a photo of him next to a photo of Prince Charles, who measures c. 5'10" and has a similar physique.
Doubtful said on 15/Jul/17
@Grey
The Museum of World War II in Natick, MA, is in possession of these detention reports. You may ask them about the reliability of the height data. I don't see where the problem is to accept that Gรถring was 1.78 m tall.
@Grey
The Museum of World War II in Natick, MA, is in possession of these detention reports. You may ask them about the reliability of the height data. I don't see where the problem is to accept that Gรถring was 1.78 m tall.
Grey said on 14/Jul/17
We don't estimate Goering's height by his corpulence, only by comparing his height in comparison to others like Hitler and Hitler vs. Ribentrop. It's clear that Goering wasn't 5ft10 barefoot.
We don't estimate Goering's height by his corpulence, only by comparing his height in comparison to others like Hitler and Hitler vs. Ribentrop. It's clear that Goering wasn't 5ft10 barefoot.
Doubtful said on 13/Jul/17
Kaltenbrunner was the tallest top Nazi defendant, then came Speer and Keitel, who had about the same height. In this document, you can see which physical characteristics of each defendant were recorded by the US Army: Click Here. They had the equipment to measure height. Don't let yourself be misguided by Gรถring's corpulence. Hindenburg and Hanfstaengl, who were giants, would look shorter than a beanpole of a shorter height if we looked at solo photos.
Kaltenbrunner was the tallest top Nazi defendant, then came Speer and Keitel, who had about the same height. In this document, you can see which physical characteristics of each defendant were recorded by the US Army: Click Here. They had the equipment to measure height. Don't let yourself be misguided by Gรถring's corpulence. Hindenburg and Hanfstaengl, who were giants, would look shorter than a beanpole of a shorter height if we looked at solo photos.
Robby said on 12/Jul/17
James, the first photo is the one where Goering seems no shorter than Hitler (and it's one of the few, if not the only one), although Goering's boots seem thicker here. Nevertheless, if you take into account 5ft10 Ribbentrop photos vs. Hitler, it's sure Goering wasn't 5ft10. I would be very shocked if he'd hit 5ft10 barefoot!
James, the first photo is the one where Goering seems no shorter than Hitler (and it's one of the few, if not the only one), although Goering's boots seem thicker here. Nevertheless, if you take into account 5ft10 Ribbentrop photos vs. Hitler, it's sure Goering wasn't 5ft10. I would be very shocked if he'd hit 5ft10 barefoot!
James said on 12/Jul/17
Goring looks taller than Hitler in that photograph.
Goring looks taller than Hitler in that photograph.
Grey said on 12/Jul/17
And here are some pictures of legit 178 cm Ribbentrop with Hitler.
Click Here
What do you think, Rob Paul? What's the Gรถring's height?
Editor Rob
And here are some pictures of legit 178 cm Ribbentrop with Hitler.
Click Here
What do you think, Rob Paul? What's the Gรถring's height?
Editor Rob 5ft 10 for Goring seems too high.
Grey said on 11/Jul/17
Gรถring wasn't 5ft10 guy, the question is was he 5ft8 or maybe 9 Hitler edges him all the time. Some examples Click Here
Gรถring wasn't 5ft10 guy, the question is was he 5ft8 or maybe 9 Hitler edges him all the time. Some examples Click Here
James said on 10/Jul/17
Field Marshal Keitel probably was 6'1" when he joined the army. He was an old man by the end of World War II so he could have lost an inch or so.
Field Marshal Keitel probably was 6'1" when he joined the army. He was an old man by the end of World War II so he could have lost an inch or so.
Tunman said on 9/Jul/17
Rob,if Goering is 5'9 does this mean that the accused in Nuremberg are also an inch shorter?Because they had their Mugshots at the same time.
Some were surprisingly tall like Keitel at 185 or Frank at 176 but Rosenberg at 180 or Ribbentrop at 178 seem honest.Maybe they took heights from personal papers rather than measuring?It could explain many things.
Editor Rob
Rob,if Goering is 5'9 does this mean that the accused in Nuremberg are also an inch shorter?Because they had their Mugshots at the same time.
Some were surprisingly tall like Keitel at 185 or Frank at 176 but Rosenberg at 180 or Ribbentrop at 178 seem honest.Maybe they took heights from personal papers rather than measuring?It could explain many things.
Editor Rob well it's Goering's claim, whether he really was 5ft 10 barefoot is another matter.
Nik said on 7/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell
Hi Sandy!
OK, thanks for that!
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@ Sandy Cowell
Hi Sandy!
OK, thanks for that!
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Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jul/17
@ Nik - Hi Nik!
I'll pop you over to Rob's page because today's news isn't about Hitler really. In fact, it isn't about him at all. Not one iota, in fact!
See you there, then! ๐ฆ๐๐
@ Nik - Hi Nik!
I'll pop you over to Rob's page because today's news isn't about Hitler really. In fact, it isn't about him at all. Not one iota, in fact!
See you there, then! ๐ฆ๐๐
James said on 7/Jul/17
The biography I read of Goering said he was measured as being 5'10" when he was 21. It is possible this could be an exaggeration. If Goering had led the Third Reich the Germans would have seized Gibraltar after the Fall of France and focused on the Mediterranean.
The biography I read of Goering said he was measured as being 5'10" when he was 21. It is possible this could be an exaggeration. If Goering had led the Third Reich the Germans would have seized Gibraltar after the Fall of France and focused on the Mediterranean.
RisingForce said on 6/Jul/17
Goering was apparently measured one 178 cm and if that's the case, Hitler looked 176, but if Hitler was only 174 then Goering would have been no more than 176.
Goering was apparently measured one 178 cm and if that's the case, Hitler looked 176, but if Hitler was only 174 then Goering would have been no more than 176.
Grey said on 6/Jul/17
James, Goering just didn't look as tall as 5ft10. I guess he was measured in thick boots and his height was round up to 5ft10. He's outheighted all the time by Hitler and Himmler (1.74 m). I know his posture wasn't proper, but legit 1.78 m wouldn't be outheighted by 1.74 m guys.
James, Goering just didn't look as tall as 5ft10. I guess he was measured in thick boots and his height was round up to 5ft10. He's outheighted all the time by Hitler and Himmler (1.74 m). I know his posture wasn't proper, but legit 1.78 m wouldn't be outheighted by 1.74 m guys.
Nik said on 6/Jul/17
Hi Sandy!
I take it was voting time for you, it was for me too. I am writing this as Emmerdale is on! I give Mr *ler a one inch rise from last time, was it deserved or not? That's for everyone to make their own mind up with!
I like Twitty's name! It won't take much pencil lead to draw that *a****ic moustache,would it? It looks like Twitty and Jaffa will be double trouble on this page!
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Hi Sandy!
I take it was voting time for you, it was for me too. I am writing this as Emmerdale is on! I give Mr *ler a one inch rise from last time, was it deserved or not? That's for everyone to make their own mind up with!
I like Twitty's name! It won't take much pencil lead to draw that *a****ic moustache,would it? It looks like Twitty and Jaffa will be double trouble on this page!
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James said on 6/Jul/17
Goering was 5'10" during World War I.
Goering was 5'10" during World War I.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Jul/17
@ Nik - Hi! Jaffa ๐ has a new best friend called Twitty! This is Twitty - ๐ฆ! They meet up at the library, where Jaffa reads 20th Century history and Twitty enjoys her nature books as she is learning to draw animals!
She said to Jaffa when she saw Hitler's picture, "I don't think he'd make a very pretty picture!" Jaffa replied "Oh, really! But he's about 5ft8.5 inches tall, so he'd need a lot of paper!"
Now Jaffa is teaching Twitty how to draw items smaller than they actually are! His chosen subject is Adolf Hitler, and will be entitled 'Uncle Ardolf'! ๐ ๐ ๐ฆ
@ Nik - Hi! Jaffa ๐ has a new best friend called Twitty! This is Twitty - ๐ฆ! They meet up at the library, where Jaffa reads 20th Century history and Twitty enjoys her nature books as she is learning to draw animals!
She said to Jaffa when she saw Hitler's picture, "I don't think he'd make a very pretty picture!" Jaffa replied "Oh, really! But he's about 5ft8.5 inches tall, so he'd need a lot of paper!"
Now Jaffa is teaching Twitty how to draw items smaller than they actually are! His chosen subject is Adolf Hitler, and will be entitled 'Uncle Ardolf'! ๐ ๐ ๐ฆ
even said on 5/Jul/17
he was 5 foot 8 inches to 5 foot 8.5 inches tall .
he was 5 foot 8 inches to 5 foot 8.5 inches tall .
Grey said on 5/Jul/17
Rob,can you estimate Gรถring height? Because I see him personally as 5ft8-9 guy
Editor Rob
Rob,can you estimate Gรถring height? Because I see him personally as 5ft8-9 guy
Editor Rob 5ft 9 for Goring might be ok.
Nik said on 26/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
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@ Sandy Cowell
๐๐บ๐๐บ๐จ๐น!
Sandy Cowell said on 26/Jun/17
@ Grrreat! ๐ ๐บ๐ ๐
@ Grrreat! ๐ ๐บ๐ ๐
Nik said on 25/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
No problem!
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@ Sandy Cowell
No problem!
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Sandy Cowell said on 25/Jun/17
@ Nik - Thanks Nik! ๐๐บ๐
@ Nik - Thanks Nik! ๐๐บ๐
Nik said on 24/Jun/17
@ Madam
How tall are you please?
@ Madam
How tall are you please?
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
...not that I was implying for one minute that you were glamorising him or had any intentions of doing so, James!
...not that I was implying for one minute that you were glamorising him or had any intentions of doing so, James!
Nik said on 24/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
That's a point well put from you.
I have my main comment ready for you in 2 parts! It's been sent!
Cheers!
@ Sandy Cowell
That's a point well put from you.
I have my main comment ready for you in 2 parts! It's been sent!
Cheers!
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
@ James - I don't believe in glamorising them either. I do see where you're coming from with the height thing, James, but I'm only larking about and throwing a bit of historical fact in with it.
@ James - I don't believe in glamorising them either. I do see where you're coming from with the height thing, James, but I'm only larking about and throwing a bit of historical fact in with it.
James said on 24/Jun/17
Several other people on this site murdered untold people, like Stalin and Churchill. We must separate the person's actions from their height.
Several other people on this site murdered untold people, like Stalin and Churchill. We must separate the person's actions from their height.
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
@ Madam - Hi! My Mum and Grandmother came from Hamburg (Hamburg 1 to be precise) and her brother lived in Cologne, where he worked at Cologne University for many years - not as a tutor! My Mum was the brainy one! She also had a sister who died of cancer when she was still relatively young.
Have an enjoyable weekend break, Madam! โบ๐บ๐๐ต๐ฆโฒ
PS My Mum used to call
me 'Madam' sometimes!
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@ Madam - Hi! My Mum and Grandmother came from Hamburg (Hamburg 1 to be precise) and her brother lived in Cologne, where he worked at Cologne University for many years - not as a tutor! My Mum was the brainy one! She also had a sister who died of cancer when she was still relatively young.
Have an enjoyable weekend break, Madam! โบ๐บ๐๐ต๐ฆโฒ
PS My Mum used to call
me 'Madam' sometimes!
๐น ๐ฉ๐ง ๐น
Nik said on 23/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
No problem mate!
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@ Sandy Cowell
No problem mate!
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Madam said on 23/Jun/17
@Sandy
I'm a German from Berlin.
@Sandy
I'm a German from Berlin.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jun/17
@ James - I have humanitarian values and I don't like people like Hitler who murdered untold people. If that leaves you crying into your cocoa, I can live with that.
@ Nik - Thanks mate! I would have missed James's gripe had I not seen your comment! I only returned onto this page to see if my reply to Madam had come up!
@ James - I have humanitarian values and I don't like people like Hitler who murdered untold people. If that leaves you crying into your cocoa, I can live with that.
@ Nik - Thanks mate! I would have missed James's gripe had I not seen your comment! I only returned onto this page to see if my reply to Madam had come up!
Nik said on 23/Jun/17
@ James
Sandy has never done anything like this at all. It's ridiculous for you to say such things.
@ James
Sandy has never done anything like this at all. It's ridiculous for you to say such things.
Hans Meiser said on 23/Jun/17
Not short at all. Average for men born in 1889 would be around 172cm, so he was above average.
Not short at all. Average for men born in 1889 would be around 172cm, so he was above average.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jun/17
@ Madam - Thank you for taking the trouble to reply.
You'll have to forgive my disliking of the genocidal maniac. I wasn't in any way implying that you were giving out false information. Your Dad had quite a claim to fame then! He would never have had to be afraid of Hitler because it wouldn't have been very advantageous to the fรผhrer, would it? Ha ha ha! He would have ended up with some pretty ropy suits if he hadn't been on his best and politest behaviour in front of your Dad!
My Mum was German and used to see Hitler when she was a little girl, before the war, as her school was nearby, if not bang next door to where he was based. Also, her Dad was Austrian, and a very rich diamond merchant. He might even have been half Jewish, or all Jewish, so he wouldn't have faired very well if he had still been around when the war got going.
Are you German, Madam? I assume you probably are!
Cheers, and it has been interesting writing to you! ๐
@ Madam - Thank you for taking the trouble to reply.
You'll have to forgive my disliking of the genocidal maniac. I wasn't in any way implying that you were giving out false information. Your Dad had quite a claim to fame then! He would never have had to be afraid of Hitler because it wouldn't have been very advantageous to the fรผhrer, would it? Ha ha ha! He would have ended up with some pretty ropy suits if he hadn't been on his best and politest behaviour in front of your Dad!
My Mum was German and used to see Hitler when she was a little girl, before the war, as her school was nearby, if not bang next door to where he was based. Also, her Dad was Austrian, and a very rich diamond merchant. He might even have been half Jewish, or all Jewish, so he wouldn't have faired very well if he had still been around when the war got going.
Are you German, Madam? I assume you probably are!
Cheers, and it has been interesting writing to you! ๐
RisingForce said on 23/Jun/17
James, there were and still are loads of myths about Hitler. Most people's perception is basically a caricature. I don't think the short myth is that widespread with Hitler, but I think more the fact that being this commanding presence, he wasn't a large or physically impressive man is part of where it started. Also, for hated figures, people tend to try at times to lump every perceived negative attribute or shortcoming onto them.
James, there were and still are loads of myths about Hitler. Most people's perception is basically a caricature. I don't think the short myth is that widespread with Hitler, but I think more the fact that being this commanding presence, he wasn't a large or physically impressive man is part of where it started. Also, for hated figures, people tend to try at times to lump every perceived negative attribute or shortcoming onto them.
Madam said on 22/Jun/17
@Sandy
Yes, Hitler took his shoes off. It was important to him to have custom-made suits, therefore everything had to be prepared exactly.
@Sandy
Yes, Hitler took his shoes off. It was important to him to have custom-made suits, therefore everything had to be prepared exactly.
Hijopotamus said on 22/Jun/17
Madam, you are saying Adolf was 180ish with regular shoes?
Madam, you are saying Adolf was 180ish with regular shoes?
James said on 21/Jun/17
I wonder if the myth about Hitler supposedly being short was due to Lord Halifax being 6'5"?
I wonder if the myth about Hitler supposedly being short was due to Lord Halifax being 6'5"?
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jun/17
Anyway, Madam, that is a very interesting thing to read! Did he ever talk to you about him and did Hitler really blow off as much as he's reputed to have done? Did Dad ever measure him up while he emitted some noxious gasses?
Do tell!
Anyway, Madam, that is a very interesting thing to read! Did he ever talk to you about him and did Hitler really blow off as much as he's reputed to have done? Did Dad ever measure him up while he emitted some noxious gasses?
Do tell!
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jun/17
I doubt if the fรผhrer will have been expected to remove his shoes to be measured up for a suit! My Mum worked in Saville Row, London, and they didn't do it there!
I doubt if the fรผhrer will have been expected to remove his shoes to be measured up for a suit! My Mum worked in Saville Row, London, and they didn't do it there!
Madam said on 18/Jun/17
The fact is that Hitler's height has not been known to the public until now. Hitler stood 177 and 0.6 centimeters, as has been told to me by my father, who made suits for him.
The fact is that Hitler's height has not been known to the public until now. Hitler stood 177 and 0.6 centimeters, as has been told to me by my father, who made suits for him.
Nik said on 14/Jun/17
What the hell made my iipad type out competition complexions, scrap the word competition and the sentence is correct!
I will probably be back when it's time for voting again!
What the hell made my iipad type out competition complexions, scrap the word competition and the sentence is correct!
I will probably be back when it's time for voting again!
Nik said on 14/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
Ok, I willl do Sandy!
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@ Sandy Cowell
Ok, I willl do Sandy!
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Sandy Cowell said on 14/Jun/17
@ Nik - See you on Rob's page! This is not related to the fรผhrer!
@ Nik - See you on Rob's page! This is not related to the fรผhrer!
Nik said on 13/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi'
No, but I have been really short changing him! I won't lose any sleep over it though.
My Mum, eldest brother, and myself have brown hair and brown eyes!
I too thought that far more German's had fair competition complexions than darker complexions!
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi'
No, but I have been really short changing him! I won't lose any sleep over it though.
My Mum, eldest brother, and myself have brown hair and brown eyes!
I too thought that far more German's had fair competition complexions than darker complexions!
James said on 13/Jun/17
Hitler was above average height. It is a myth that he wanted people to be tall, blond and blue-eyed.
Hitler was above average height. It is a myth that he wanted people to be tall, blond and blue-eyed.
Sandy Cowell said on 13/Jun/17
@ Nik - I wouldn't lose any sleep about short changing Hitler! At all. Ever! ๐
@ Rita Scott - Hi! My Mum was a German and she said that there are as many brown-haired, brown-eyed German people as those with fair hair and blue eyes! She was dark herself. I saw plenty of pictures of the colouring of the kids in her class at school (all girls; I don't think mixed schools were common in Germany), and they were truly half and half!
My Mum, as a little kid, used to see Hitler as her school was situated next to where Hitler was festering about before the war. The years were anything from late 1929 and upwards. Kids started school at 7 then!
My Mum reckoned him to be 'about 5ft8', though that hardly rules out half-an-inch taller! She didn't like him even before the war! She said he was a seedy little man and would I kindly shut up asking questions about him!
@ Nik - I wouldn't lose any sleep about short changing Hitler! At all. Ever! ๐
@ Rita Scott - Hi! My Mum was a German and she said that there are as many brown-haired, brown-eyed German people as those with fair hair and blue eyes! She was dark herself. I saw plenty of pictures of the colouring of the kids in her class at school (all girls; I don't think mixed schools were common in Germany), and they were truly half and half!
My Mum, as a little kid, used to see Hitler as her school was situated next to where Hitler was festering about before the war. The years were anything from late 1929 and upwards. Kids started school at 7 then!
My Mum reckoned him to be 'about 5ft8', though that hardly rules out half-an-inch taller! She didn't like him even before the war! She said he was a seedy little man and would I kindly shut up asking questions about him!
Nik said on 12/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
Oh I see! I can see why he avoids it then!
I have been worse than you to be honest Sandy, i think that I had better give him a higher vote next time!
@ Sandy Cowell
Oh I see! I can see why he avoids it then!
I have been worse than you to be honest Sandy, i think that I had better give him a higher vote next time!
Rita Scott said on 10/Jun/17
Why were the top Nazi's short, dark haired $ unattractive? Why were there not the tall, blue eyed blond Aryan specimens Hitler said were the REAL Germans, not in command?
Why were the top Nazi's short, dark haired $ unattractive? Why were there not the tall, blue eyed blond Aryan specimens Hitler said were the REAL Germans, not in command?
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Jun/17
@ Nik - He says people object to his buzzing noise and try to spray him! ๐ฉ๐๐
@ Rob - OK! Enough nonsense for the time being! Jaffa will be back in a couple of months with another historical instalment.
@ Nik - He says people object to his buzzing noise and try to spray him! ๐ฉ๐๐
@ Rob - OK! Enough nonsense for the time being! Jaffa will be back in a couple of months with another historical instalment.
Nik said on 10/Jun/17
@ Rob
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@ Rob
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Nik said on 10/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell
I cast my vote on this page on Thursday too, not the only vote that I cast recently!
Jaffa should have had a lift back to the library! Why didn't he use the library toilet?
Cheers!
Editor Rob
@ Sandy Cowell
I cast my vote on this page on Thursday too, not the only vote that I cast recently!
Jaffa should have had a lift back to the library! Why didn't he use the library toilet?
Cheers!
Editor Rob I have to be the Editor here and keep the page on topic as it quickly can get off track.
I did once read a description of Hitler, from a 1943 magazine: "Height 5'8', Weight 170 pounds. Sallow complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, bristly moustache, lunatic expression."
I think that's quite descriptive...
I did once read a description of Hitler, from a 1943 magazine: "Height 5'8', Weight 170 pounds. Sallow complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, bristly moustache, lunatic expression."
I think that's quite descriptive...
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Jun/17
The bumbly bumble bee is on a toilet paper economy drive, and is just coming out of the local public lavatory. Ah! He's arrived ๐บ๐ so it's over to you Jaffa!
"Hi folks! Don't I look great today? ๐๐ฉ๐ I've saved up enough money on loo paper by using the public lav ๐๐ฝ that I have been able to buy a brand new history book on 20th Century War History! ๐ Of course Hitler's in it, and according to the book and my painstaking research, he was a little over 5ft8 on a good day! Don't forget, friends, he was also fighting in the First ๐World War, where he might have been taller, but being a vegetarian, his diet may well have been lacking in protein, though my bumble bee relatives have assured me that he was extremely fond of beans and pulses, judging from the sound effects emanating from his trouser region! ๐๐๐จ ๐
Bye bye! See you again in a few weeks!"
So the happy and slightly inebriated bumble bee put on his hat and coat to do some honey-gathering, before going straight back to his local library - via the public convenience, of course!
๐ท๐ ๐บ๐ ๐ป๐ ๐ธ๐ ๐น๐ ๐๐
The bumbly bumble bee is on a toilet paper economy drive, and is just coming out of the local public lavatory. Ah! He's arrived ๐บ๐ so it's over to you Jaffa!
"Hi folks! Don't I look great today? ๐๐ฉ๐ I've saved up enough money on loo paper by using the public lav ๐๐ฝ that I have been able to buy a brand new history book on 20th Century War History! ๐ Of course Hitler's in it, and according to the book and my painstaking research, he was a little over 5ft8 on a good day! Don't forget, friends, he was also fighting in the First ๐World War, where he might have been taller, but being a vegetarian, his diet may well have been lacking in protein, though my bumble bee relatives have assured me that he was extremely fond of beans and pulses, judging from the sound effects emanating from his trouser region! ๐๐๐จ ๐
Bye bye! See you again in a few weeks!"
So the happy and slightly inebriated bumble bee put on his hat and coat to do some honey-gathering, before going straight back to his local library - via the public convenience, of course!
๐ท๐ ๐บ๐ ๐ป๐ ๐ธ๐ ๐น๐ ๐๐
John said on 3/Jun/17
I think he is supposedly to stand at 5ft 8.4in 173.7cm
I think he is supposedly to stand at 5ft 8.4in 173.7cm
RisingForce said on 24/May/17
British commentators led to the perception that Napoleon was a dwarf so it could be similar with Hitler. I still think Hitler was likely measured 5'9" in socks and can easily look it with the measured heights I posted below, but 174 cm is a fair compromise with all the uncertainty for such an old figure. But I've never read too much about Hitler's height coming up in the primary sources with his inner circle. Though his inner circle did tell him his fashion (i.e., mustache, postman's camp, leather boots) should be updated, though Hitler, of course didn't listen. Hitler's health was not good towards the end of the war either. It's been said Hitler had Parkinson's or perhaps something else serious and probably wouldn't have lived too much longer regardless. Back in 1939 when he's supposed to have measured 5'9", he was said to be in good health, so maybe Hitler shrunk closer to 5'8".
British commentators led to the perception that Napoleon was a dwarf so it could be similar with Hitler. I still think Hitler was likely measured 5'9" in socks and can easily look it with the measured heights I posted below, but 174 cm is a fair compromise with all the uncertainty for such an old figure. But I've never read too much about Hitler's height coming up in the primary sources with his inner circle. Though his inner circle did tell him his fashion (i.e., mustache, postman's camp, leather boots) should be updated, though Hitler, of course didn't listen. Hitler's health was not good towards the end of the war either. It's been said Hitler had Parkinson's or perhaps something else serious and probably wouldn't have lived too much longer regardless. Back in 1939 when he's supposed to have measured 5'9", he was said to be in good health, so maybe Hitler shrunk closer to 5'8".
Doubtful said on 24/May/17
This photo shows Hitler with 4th grade classmates. He is one of the tallest. (Okay, he might have stood on a chair.)
Click Here
Hitler in WW1. Again one of the tallest.
Click Here
Himmler was 5'9" (Click Here), one inch shorter than Hitler.
This photo shows Hitler with 4th grade classmates. He is one of the tallest. (Okay, he might have stood on a chair.)
Click Here
Hitler in WW1. Again one of the tallest.
Click Here
Himmler was 5'9" (Click Here), one inch shorter than Hitler.
Grey said on 13/May/17
And about Goering height, I think he was more 5ft9 than 5ft10, maybe they measured him with boots and in the morning? I know he has loose posture, but anyway, he doesn't look 178 cm for me. What do you think, Rob?
And about Goering height, I think he was more 5ft9 than 5ft10, maybe they measured him with boots and in the morning? I know he has loose posture, but anyway, he doesn't look 178 cm for me. What do you think, Rob?
prasad said on 13/May/17
same height as me 174 cms
same height as me 174 cms
lasla said on 13/May/17
hitler with 174cm listed himmler
Click Here
Click Here
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Rob, how tall do you think that himmler was? if hitler was 174cm, himmler would be 175/176cm but he was listed at 174cm.
Editor Rob
hitler with 174cm listed himmler
Click Here
Click Here
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Rob, how tall do you think that himmler was? if hitler was 174cm, himmler would be 175/176cm but he was listed at 174cm.
Editor Rob you could probably find an equal amount of Himmler seeming a bit taller, both roughly similar, and Hitler taller, like Here.
Both probably were reasonably close, I still wouldn't rule out the idea of Hitler wearing lifts at times.
Both probably were reasonably close, I still wouldn't rule out the idea of Hitler wearing lifts at times.
Marshall F. said on 8/May/17
Rob, can you try to get a pic w/ him next time? All his photos seem out dated.
Thanks
Editor Rob
Rob, can you try to get a pic w/ him next time? All his photos seem out dated.
Thanks
Editor Rob Marshall, I will, if I can get hold of a blasted IBM 5100 series computer...
Sandy Cowell said on 30/Apr/17
"Hello again!" said the bumble bee. "Have you missed me? Here's my owner's new estimate!" ๐
Then the bumble bee put his hat and coat on to vanish for another few weeks!
"Hello again!" said the bumble bee. "Have you missed me? Here's my owner's new estimate!" ๐
Then the bumble bee put his hat and coat on to vanish for another few weeks!
Doubtful said on 23/Apr/17
Hitler actors ranked in ascending order from smallest to tallest:
1. Charlie Chaplin
2. David Bamber: 5'7", acc. to Click Here
2. Robert Carlyle: 5'7", acc. to Click Here
2. Bruno Ganz: 170 cm (5'7"), acc. to Click Here
3. Alec Guinness
4. Oliver Masucci: 188 cm (6'2"), self-report during interview
Hitler actors ranked in ascending order from smallest to tallest:
1. Charlie Chaplin
2. David Bamber: 5'7", acc. to Click Here
2. Robert Carlyle: 5'7", acc. to Click Here
2. Bruno Ganz: 170 cm (5'7"), acc. to Click Here
3. Alec Guinness
4. Oliver Masucci: 188 cm (6'2"), self-report during interview
Nik said on 23/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell
Hi Sandy, I didn't know that you could vote for the same person more than once, I thought that Rob had changed it so that you could only have one vote per celebrity/famous person, (or infamous person in Hitlers case!) thanks for telling me that. Of course it is likely that he wore lifts, right from being very young when he was embarking on his "so called" career he would have wanted to have appeared as tall as he possibly could in order to portray a more macho image, and lie you said because he was an admirer of the tall. There is nothing wrong with men being small, they are no worse than tall men in any way, but that will not have been Hitlers mind set! If Hitler was a 5'6.5" lift wearing guy then I would not be surprised in the slightest. Do you remember those Meerkat adverts Sandy?
@Sandy Cowell
Hi Sandy, I didn't know that you could vote for the same person more than once, I thought that Rob had changed it so that you could only have one vote per celebrity/famous person, (or infamous person in Hitlers case!) thanks for telling me that. Of course it is likely that he wore lifts, right from being very young when he was embarking on his "so called" career he would have wanted to have appeared as tall as he possibly could in order to portray a more macho image, and lie you said because he was an admirer of the tall. There is nothing wrong with men being small, they are no worse than tall men in any way, but that will not have been Hitlers mind set! If Hitler was a 5'6.5" lift wearing guy then I would not be surprised in the slightest. Do you remember those Meerkat adverts Sandy?
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Apr/17
@ Nik - Every few weeks, the voting box reappears, giving us the opportunity to vote for the same person again if we have changed our minds about his or her height! It is something I have picked up on since coming to the site! That is why I tend now to write down in my comments how much someone is! Then in a few weeks, if I have changed my mind, I can vote again.
Yes, I think the likelihood of Hitler wearing lifts is high! If they were around in his day, of course he'll have worn them as he was an admirer of the tall! Simples!
@ Nik - Every few weeks, the voting box reappears, giving us the opportunity to vote for the same person again if we have changed our minds about his or her height! It is something I have picked up on since coming to the site! That is why I tend now to write down in my comments how much someone is! Then in a few weeks, if I have changed my mind, I can vote again.
Yes, I think the likelihood of Hitler wearing lifts is high! If they were around in his day, of course he'll have worn them as he was an admirer of the tall! Simples!
Nik said on 21/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell
I don't know if you have noticed but Mr Hitler has been relegated from having the16th most popular page to the 20th most popular page! I found this out in the last week when I navigated his page via the "Top 50 Celebs" page. When you said you could vote for him again, do you mean his height? How does it work? I thought you could only guess it once. Maybe you too are open minded to the possibility that Adolf wore lifts!
@Sandy Cowell
I don't know if you have noticed but Mr Hitler has been relegated from having the16th most popular page to the 20th most popular page! I found this out in the last week when I navigated his page via the "Top 50 Celebs" page. When you said you could vote for him again, do you mean his height? How does it work? I thought you could only guess it once. Maybe you too are open minded to the possibility that Adolf wore lifts!
Sandy Cowell said on 20/Apr/17
@ Nik - Yes, never mind! In a few weeks time I can vote for him again though and this time....well, use your imagination! Poop! ๐
@ Nik - Yes, never mind! In a few weeks time I can vote for him again though and this time....well, use your imagination! Poop! ๐
Nik said on 17/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell
I know it's a shame that we have had our knuckles rapped a bit! But never mind'
@Sandy Cowell
I know it's a shame that we have had our knuckles rapped a bit! But never mind'
Doubtful said on 16/Apr/17
@Editor Rob
Well, Paul Merton was not referring to Hitler, but to Charlie Chaplin in the role of Hitler. By the way, almost all Hitler actors were too small. Alec Guinness had the right height.
Editor Rob
@Editor Rob
Well, Paul Merton was not referring to Hitler, but to Charlie Chaplin in the role of Hitler. By the way, almost all Hitler actors were too small. Alec Guinness had the right height.
Editor Rob do you mean to tell me that this portrayal by Chaplin wasn't the truth!
that Adolf cared less about his height and wasn't vain in the slightest!
I am glad the topic is back to height...๐
I've never looked at all the actors who have played Hitler in Movies, TV or film, but it would be interesting who was the tallest actor or shortest to play him.
that Adolf cared less about his height and wasn't vain in the slightest!
I am glad the topic is back to height...๐
I've never looked at all the actors who have played Hitler in Movies, TV or film, but it would be interesting who was the tallest actor or shortest to play him.
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Apr/17
@ Rob - Thanks, and thank you also for mentioning my messages regarding Trump. ๐
@ Nik - C'est la vie! Yes, it's a shame and I enjoyed reading and writing about flatulent dogs on Hitler's page, but all good things come to an end! ๐ญ
@ Rob - Thanks, and thank you also for mentioning my messages regarding Trump. ๐
@ Nik - C'est la vie! Yes, it's a shame and I enjoyed reading and writing about flatulent dogs on Hitler's page, but all good things come to an end! ๐ญ
Nik said on 16/Apr/17
@Rob
Ok I understand.
@Sandy Cowell
Yes good old Paul Merton!
@Rob
Ok I understand.
@Sandy Cowell
Yes good old Paul Merton!
Nik said on 16/Apr/17
@James
That would not make him self conscious abiout his height though!
@James
That would not make him self conscious abiout his height though!
Puma said on 16/Apr/17
Upgrade to 174, Rob?I remember 173 that.
Editor Rob
Upgrade to 174, Rob?I remember 173 that.
Editor Rob I think the 174 mark is a real possibility.
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Apr/17
@ Rob - OK! I quite understand! ๐
That's an interesting and amusing, not to mention very agreeable comment from Paul Merton!
Good old Paul Merton! ๐
Editor Rob
@ Rob - OK! I quite understand! ๐
That's an interesting and amusing, not to mention very agreeable comment from Paul Merton!
Good old Paul Merton! ๐
Editor Rob I understand, and similarly regarding Trump...for readers, if they browse comments they want to see mostly height-related, the odd digression is forgiveable though.
James said on 16/Apr/17
"Little man" could just mean a petty man, obsessed with trivial issues.
"Little man" could just mean a petty man, obsessed with trivial issues.
Nik said on 16/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I think I know which ones you were talking about, they were from the 11th April I think. I kept on adding symbol after symbol as incredibly I kept finding ones that you could derive apt words from! It's a shame the comments have been removed.
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I think I know which ones you were talking about, they were from the 11th April I think. I kept on adding symbol after symbol as incredibly I kept finding ones that you could derive apt words from! It's a shame the comments have been removed.
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Apr/17
@ Nik - You did! Our off-topic chats about dogs and others have been removed, as you can see, after being complained about!
Editor Rob
@ Nik - You did! Our off-topic chats about dogs and others have been removed, as you can see, after being complained about!
Editor Rob things can easily veer off-topic.
there is more give and take on the rob paul page.
back to Hitler, I read a quote a while ago from Paul Merton, saying "Adolf Hitler. a vain little man, terribly self-conscious about his height".
there is more give and take on the rob paul page.
back to Hitler, I read a quote a while ago from Paul Merton, saying "Adolf Hitler. a vain little man, terribly self-conscious about his height".
Albert said on 15/Apr/17
An acquaintance of mine has a suit worn by Hitler. I tried it on and it fitted. The sleeves were not too short. I'm 5'10.5" tall.
An acquaintance of mine has a suit worn by Hitler. I tried it on and it fitted. The sleeves were not too short. I'm 5'10.5" tall.
James said on 15/Apr/17
Rob, why don't you remove this off-topic posts?
Editor Rob
Rob, why don't you remove this off-topic posts?
Editor Rob There's some leeway allowed at my discretion, but you are correct in that the page has gone off-topic, it's about Hitler's height.
Nik said on 15/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell
Which emojis? Who sent them and what date are they from?
@Sandy Cowell
Which emojis? Who sent them and what date are they from?
James said on 12/Apr/17
The idea that Hitler wanted the Germanic people to be tall, blond and blue-eyed is just another urban myth.
I don't think "carpet muncher" is appropriate.
Editor Rob
The idea that Hitler wanted the Germanic people to be tall, blond and blue-eyed is just another urban myth.
I don't think "carpet muncher" is appropriate.
Editor Rob yes, I think trying to stay to topic of height as much as possible.
Doubtful said on 8/Apr/17
@RisingForce
Hitler wasn't Obsessed With Height in the sense that he was worried about his height. But he admired tall people. 178 cm was the minimum height for a soldier of the "Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler".
@RisingForce
Hitler wasn't Obsessed With Height in the sense that he was worried about his height. But he admired tall people. 178 cm was the minimum height for a soldier of the "Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler".
Doubtful said on 8/Apr/17
It is variously recorded that Hitler developed a poor posture in 1943. He told his secretaries (among them Traudl Junge), "Eva wants me to keep my back straight." So from 1943 on, Goering's posture was not necessarily looser than Hitler's.
It is variously recorded that Hitler developed a poor posture in 1943. He told his secretaries (among them Traudl Junge), "Eva wants me to keep my back straight." So from 1943 on, Goering's posture was not necessarily looser than Hitler's.
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Apr/17
@ Nik - I saw a programme about Hitler and how hell-bent he was about getting his own back for the First World War. He wasn't right in the head and had a power complex. Yes, I agree he is a good contender for the most evil human ever and should be on a programme entitled 'Most Evil', that's if he hasn't been already! He would score top marks!
PS ๐
@ Nik - I saw a programme about Hitler and how hell-bent he was about getting his own back for the First World War. He wasn't right in the head and had a power complex. Yes, I agree he is a good contender for the most evil human ever and should be on a programme entitled 'Most Evil', that's if he hasn't been already! He would score top marks!
PS ๐
RisingForce said on 7/Apr/17
Tunman, yeah, there were other mini-Stalinists. That was a standard early on in the Soviet bloc, and guaranteed you a good shot at leadership. I think that Stalin's violence continues for his entire reign with most of it during a time of peace that astounds me so much, not that the war was any better with order no. 270 declaring all Soviet POWS as traitors. Pol Pot had Stalin's paranoia and certainly violence, but I think he was much less stable. Stalin may have been reprehensible, but was underestimated and really outmaneuvered all his rivals. Pol Pot's quick demise is proof of the difference. As a free market libertarian, I never condone any firm of totalitarianism, but objectively both Stalin and Hitler had talents that explain their meteoric ruses. Both had strong wills and Hitler's oratory skills cannot be underestimated. Back to height, I can agree with 175 cm. I'm operating on the assumption that those measurements were barefoot, if this is shown to be false, I'll probably amend my guess to 173-174 cm.
Tunman, yeah, there were other mini-Stalinists. That was a standard early on in the Soviet bloc, and guaranteed you a good shot at leadership. I think that Stalin's violence continues for his entire reign with most of it during a time of peace that astounds me so much, not that the war was any better with order no. 270 declaring all Soviet POWS as traitors. Pol Pot had Stalin's paranoia and certainly violence, but I think he was much less stable. Stalin may have been reprehensible, but was underestimated and really outmaneuvered all his rivals. Pol Pot's quick demise is proof of the difference. As a free market libertarian, I never condone any firm of totalitarianism, but objectively both Stalin and Hitler had talents that explain their meteoric ruses. Both had strong wills and Hitler's oratory skills cannot be underestimated. Back to height, I can agree with 175 cm. I'm operating on the assumption that those measurements were barefoot, if this is shown to be false, I'll probably amend my guess to 173-174 cm.
Nik said on 7/Apr/17
@Tunman @Sandy Cowell
I wouldn't rule the lifts out!
Most evil person ever?
@Tunman @Sandy Cowell
I wouldn't rule the lifts out!
Most evil person ever?
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Apr/17
@ Tunman - Your comment is also very interesting, but doesn't it make you want to give him SUCH a kicking? Yes, it was sick how he was obsessed with a master race and considered so many good, hard working people to be sub-human, or 'untermensch'.
(I'll have to check the spelling of that awful word with my Dad).
@ Tunman - Your comment is also very interesting, but doesn't it make you want to give him SUCH a kicking? Yes, it was sick how he was obsessed with a master race and considered so many good, hard working people to be sub-human, or 'untermensch'.
(I'll have to check the spelling of that awful word with my Dad).
Tunman said on 5/Apr/17
@Risingforce
Actually both were unusual dictators but for different reasons:under Stalin no one was able to say where he would end the day,the process was under a single rule:Randomness,even for commies themselves.
Actually many communist leaders followed Stalin's pattern like Mao,Rakosi,Pol Pot and Kim il sung.No one was certain to be spared which made people living under a constant fear for their lives.Just think that Eastern dictators like Dimitrov,Ulbricht,Dej...were just smaller copies of Stalin perhaps with less sadistic tendancies.
Under Hitler as you said the vowed enemies were indeed the ones that expected to be persecuted which should make Hitler more predictable than Stalin from this side at least.Hitler's evil was to be shown much more during the war instead of "peacetime"(33-38) because his ideology was based on the superiority of "Aryans" and "aryan blood" hence the harsh rule was to be imposed not on the "superior german" but "inferior slavic people"or jews etc.
A rare example for Hitler's ideology was in Japan in 1930-45 (superior race,vital space for that race,extermination of so called subhumans).Hopefully his case was extremely rare.And unlike Stalin,the regimes of eastern Europe that were backed by the Nazis in early 40's were not aligning themselves for ideology but for another reason that coincided perfectly with far right ideology at that time:Irredentism.
Hope I made everything clear!
Back to height I know that Hitler wasn't that Obsessed With Height and I doubt he wore lifts.But keep in mind that he was perfectly aware of the importance of image, had techniques about voice,tone and gestures almost brought them to an art level.I think that cameramen worked in that sense which although not always probably often included height aspect.
I reckon he often looks 175 but that also depends whether guys at Nuremberg were measured barefeet?And whether he was at Landsberg.Again anything between 173 and 175 is arguable.If you look at some pics with 180 Rosenberg he could look anywhere in that 5'8-9 range.174 is still a good compromise.
@Risingforce
Actually both were unusual dictators but for different reasons:under Stalin no one was able to say where he would end the day,the process was under a single rule:Randomness,even for commies themselves.
Actually many communist leaders followed Stalin's pattern like Mao,Rakosi,Pol Pot and Kim il sung.No one was certain to be spared which made people living under a constant fear for their lives.Just think that Eastern dictators like Dimitrov,Ulbricht,Dej...were just smaller copies of Stalin perhaps with less sadistic tendancies.
Under Hitler as you said the vowed enemies were indeed the ones that expected to be persecuted which should make Hitler more predictable than Stalin from this side at least.Hitler's evil was to be shown much more during the war instead of "peacetime"(33-38) because his ideology was based on the superiority of "Aryans" and "aryan blood" hence the harsh rule was to be imposed not on the "superior german" but "inferior slavic people"or jews etc.
A rare example for Hitler's ideology was in Japan in 1930-45 (superior race,vital space for that race,extermination of so called subhumans).Hopefully his case was extremely rare.And unlike Stalin,the regimes of eastern Europe that were backed by the Nazis in early 40's were not aligning themselves for ideology but for another reason that coincided perfectly with far right ideology at that time:Irredentism.
Hope I made everything clear!
Back to height I know that Hitler wasn't that Obsessed With Height and I doubt he wore lifts.But keep in mind that he was perfectly aware of the importance of image, had techniques about voice,tone and gestures almost brought them to an art level.I think that cameramen worked in that sense which although not always probably often included height aspect.
I reckon he often looks 175 but that also depends whether guys at Nuremberg were measured barefeet?And whether he was at Landsberg.Again anything between 173 and 175 is arguable.If you look at some pics with 180 Rosenberg he could look anywhere in that 5'8-9 range.174 is still a good compromise.
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Apr/17
@ RisingForce - Your comment from 2nd April made for some very interesting reading! ๐
@ RisingForce - Your comment from 2nd April made for some very interesting reading! ๐
RisingForce said on 2/Apr/17
Stalin was actually a lot more petty, sadistic and arbitary than Hitler and don't mistake this as an endorsement for Hitler or to say that Hitler couldn't be incredibly brutal like his statement to his secretary after the Night of Long Knives purge, military methods like Einsatzgruppen etc. but Hitler murdered his avowed enemies for the most part and was more detached from it leaving it to Himmler, Heydrich, Eichmann etc., mostly during a time of war, while Stalin obviously murdered opponents as well like so-called "Kulaks", but also murdered masses of loyal Communists including his inner circle through the Yezhovshchina/Great Purge. I've not heard Hitler was overly concerned with height to that point. As for with Goering, we'll posture is why Hitler looks about 177 cm there and I know he's not that tall, but the difference can't be more than an inch standing properly, imo. I see Hitler at least 175 cm in the 2 photos posted below with Ribbentrop as well. Either way, no photos are perfect, but full shots like this are about as good as we can expect, imo so I have to go with what he looks next to measured people. I believe the 5'9" in socks measurement in 1939, though I do remember Hitler looking a bit shorter compared to Mussolini. As for Stalin, I've heard he got lifts made in the early 30s and some who knew him like Bukharin said he had a height complex. This makes sense since Stalin was 165-166 cm max, imo if Churchill was 169 cm max and Tito 169-170 cm range.
Stalin was actually a lot more petty, sadistic and arbitary than Hitler and don't mistake this as an endorsement for Hitler or to say that Hitler couldn't be incredibly brutal like his statement to his secretary after the Night of Long Knives purge, military methods like Einsatzgruppen etc. but Hitler murdered his avowed enemies for the most part and was more detached from it leaving it to Himmler, Heydrich, Eichmann etc., mostly during a time of war, while Stalin obviously murdered opponents as well like so-called "Kulaks", but also murdered masses of loyal Communists including his inner circle through the Yezhovshchina/Great Purge. I've not heard Hitler was overly concerned with height to that point. As for with Goering, we'll posture is why Hitler looks about 177 cm there and I know he's not that tall, but the difference can't be more than an inch standing properly, imo. I see Hitler at least 175 cm in the 2 photos posted below with Ribbentrop as well. Either way, no photos are perfect, but full shots like this are about as good as we can expect, imo so I have to go with what he looks next to measured people. I believe the 5'9" in socks measurement in 1939, though I do remember Hitler looking a bit shorter compared to Mussolini. As for Stalin, I've heard he got lifts made in the early 30s and some who knew him like Bukharin said he had a height complex. This makes sense since Stalin was 165-166 cm max, imo if Churchill was 169 cm max and Tito 169-170 cm range.
Sandy Cowell said on 2/Apr/17
@ James - You're right about the 5ft8. That's what my Mum said he was (approx), and she used to see him on her way to school before the war got going. Children in Germany didn't start until they were 7 then, so this will have been 1929/30 onwards!
@ James - You're right about the 5ft8. That's what my Mum said he was (approx), and she used to see him on her way to school before the war got going. Children in Germany didn't start until they were 7 then, so this will have been 1929/30 onwards!
James said on 2/Apr/17
People lied about Hitler's height for propaganda reasons, the same way they did with Napoleon's height.
People lied about Hitler's height for propaganda reasons, the same way they did with Napoleon's height.
Tunman said on 1/Apr/17
175 is the max arguable since he was measured at that mark in prison.173 is the minimum.Virtually looked about the same as 174 Himmler but still shorter than Ribbentrop.I remember having thought there was 6cm difference between him and Mussolini.Again depends whether you think the latter is 167 or 169.5'8.25" or 173,5 still seems very reasonable.
@Risingforce
Trust me Goering is one of least reliable guys to compare with due to very poor posture.I swear I always thought he was the same as Himmler tops
Plus Hitler was often, really often given camera advantage.I read enough on him and Stalin to tell you that anyone undermining them was exposed to death,cameramen were probably asked to put him on advantage.After all he was the Fuhrer...
A strong 5'8 is what he looks generally.
175 is the max arguable since he was measured at that mark in prison.173 is the minimum.Virtually looked about the same as 174 Himmler but still shorter than Ribbentrop.I remember having thought there was 6cm difference between him and Mussolini.Again depends whether you think the latter is 167 or 169.5'8.25" or 173,5 still seems very reasonable.
@Risingforce
Trust me Goering is one of least reliable guys to compare with due to very poor posture.I swear I always thought he was the same as Himmler tops
Plus Hitler was often, really often given camera advantage.I read enough on him and Stalin to tell you that anyone undermining them was exposed to death,cameramen were probably asked to put him on advantage.After all he was the Fuhrer...
A strong 5'8 is what he looks generally.
RisingForce said on 29/Mar/17
Based on the visual evidence then the only way Hitler wasn't 5'9" in socks is if all of those measurements such as Goering's 178 cm were in shoes and I know of no reason to suspect that.
Based on the visual evidence then the only way Hitler wasn't 5'9" in socks is if all of those measurements such as Goering's 178 cm were in shoes and I know of no reason to suspect that.
Sandy Cowell said on 28/Mar/17
๐ - 5ft8.25 of ๐ฉ๐ท
๐ - 5ft8.25 of ๐ฉ๐ท
Ely said on 20/Mar/17
No way Hitler was 176..He was 173-174
No way Hitler was 176..He was 173-174
RisingForce said on 19/Mar/17
Yeah, they do look similar, but I think Goering's posture is a bit looser. In any event, he does consistently look at least 176 cm compared to 5 measured heights so I can only estimate Hitler to have been 176 cm, or at least 175 cm.
Yeah, they do look similar, but I think Goering's posture is a bit looser. In any event, he does consistently look at least 176 cm compared to 5 measured heights so I can only estimate Hitler to have been 176 cm, or at least 175 cm.
Doubtful said on 12/Mar/17
@RisingForce
In that picture, Goering appears taller than Hitler, but when I draw a line from Hitler's scalp to Goering's scalp there is no difference. Anyways, Goering (178 cm) might have been a bit taller than Hitler, just 1 or 2 cm. Anything from 176 to 178 cm is possible. Morell suggested 176 cm.
@RisingForce
In that picture, Goering appears taller than Hitler, but when I draw a line from Hitler's scalp to Goering's scalp there is no difference. Anyways, Goering (178 cm) might have been a bit taller than Hitler, just 1 or 2 cm. Anything from 176 to 178 cm is possible. Morell suggested 176 cm.
Orlando said on 11/Mar/17
Benito Mussolini was 1.67 m according to his police file in Forli, Italy (quoted by Jasper Ridley, "Mussolini, A Biography", 2000, page 35). Or 1.692 m, according his Swiss police file when he was arrested in Bern, 1903: Click Here
Benito Mussolini was 1.67 m according to his police file in Forli, Italy (quoted by Jasper Ridley, "Mussolini, A Biography", 2000, page 35). Or 1.692 m, according his Swiss police file when he was arrested in Bern, 1903: Click Here
RisingForce said on 10/Mar/17
Doubtful, based on those measurements, Hitler does actually look a good 175-176 cm! With Goering: Click Here With Doenitz: Click Here With Rosenberg: Click Here Click Here With Keitel: Click Here
Doubtful, based on those measurements, Hitler does actually look a good 175-176 cm! With Goering: Click Here With Doenitz: Click Here With Rosenberg: Click Here Click Here With Keitel: Click Here
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Mar/17
๐๐จ ๐๐จ ๐๐ฉthat's got it!
๐๐จ ๐๐จ ๐๐ฉthat's got it!
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Mar/17
@ Nik - Yes, it would come very low down on my list of preferences!!! ๐๐ฟ
@ Nik - Yes, it would come very low down on my list of preferences!!! ๐๐ฟ
Nik said on 3/Mar/17
@Sandy Cowell
Yeah a Personnel officer is not bad as a boss and neither is a Charity shop Manager, but an SS officer, the very worst boss to have.
@Sandy Cowell
Yeah a Personnel officer is not bad as a boss and neither is a Charity shop Manager, but an SS officer, the very worst boss to have.
Powerhouse said on 2/Mar/17
How tall was Benito Mussolini? Was he the reported 5'6.5?
How tall was Benito Mussolini? Was he the reported 5'6.5?
Nik said on 1/Mar/17
I do not know how tall he was. I am of the opinion though that because he was a dictator he was more likely than most to have sneaked things into his shoes to make himself appear taller than what he was. Whether he did this or not I don't know.
I do not know how tall he was. I am of the opinion though that because he was a dictator he was more likely than most to have sneaked things into his shoes to make himself appear taller than what he was. Whether he did this or not I don't know.
Sandy Cowell said on 27/Feb/17
I still think Hitler was 5ft8 on the dot, but I've been through everybody's comments, so this time I shall give him a little rise because I have b๐n
upsetting a few of you with my un-height-related comments! Sozz about that!
@ Nik - Yes, indeed! An SS Officer is never going to be the ideal boss!
I still think Hitler was 5ft8 on the dot, but I've been through everybody's comments, so this time I shall give him a little rise because I have b๐n
upsetting a few of you with my un-height-related comments! Sozz about that!
@ Nik - Yes, indeed! An SS Officer is never going to be the ideal boss!
Nik said on 25/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I am glad I have never had a boss like that.
@Editor Rob
Do you think he could have worn lifts to increase his height by a few inches?
Editor Rob
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I am glad I have never had a boss like that.
@Editor Rob
Do you think he could have worn lifts to increase his height by a few inches?
Editor Rob in a quote I mentioned a few weeks ago, there was some talk that he might have worn lifts...but such things are hard to ever prove.
Doubtful said on 24/Feb/17
I wonder why no one refers to the detention reports. These are official measurements. Did Hitler wear shoes that were two inches higher than Goering's? ;โ)
Goering (1.78 m)
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Frick (1.78 m)
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Doenitz (1.79 m)
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Rosenberg (1.80 m)
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Keitel (1.85 m)
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I wonder why no one refers to the detention reports. These are official measurements. Did Hitler wear shoes that were two inches higher than Goering's? ;โ)
Goering (1.78 m)
Click Here
Frick (1.78 m)
Click Here
Doenitz (1.79 m)
Click Here
Rosenberg (1.80 m)
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Keitel (1.85 m)
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James said on 23/Feb/17
These irrelevant comments must be removed.
Editor Rob
These irrelevant comments must be removed.
Editor Rob yes, we must stick as much as possible to Hitler's height.
Nik said on 22/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell
No I had not read it to be honest Sandy before your posting. Yes it is clear what your Mum thought of him, you can be proud of the bravery that she showed in stranding up for what is right. I do not think she thought very much of Himmler (also about 5'8") either to be truthful,
@Sandy Cowell
No I had not read it to be honest Sandy before your posting. Yes it is clear what your Mum thought of him, you can be proud of the bravery that she showed in stranding up for what is right. I do not think she thought very much of Himmler (also about 5'8") either to be truthful,
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Feb/17
@ Nik - Oh yes! There would have been tears, tantrums, screaming and angry words - from my Mum alone!
I don't know whether you've read my first Hitler contribution (from November), but if you did, you'll know what my German Mum thought of the guy! She used to see him as he was based next to or very near to her Primary school! She didn't like him before the war, not to mention when it all got going!
Well, my Mum would have taken the Hitler-containing box of crackers back to the shop and kicked up a real to-do, demanding her money back and more! She was a stickler for what was right!
PS ๐!
@ Nik - Oh yes! There would have been tears, tantrums, screaming and angry words - from my Mum alone!
I don't know whether you've read my first Hitler contribution (from November), but if you did, you'll know what my German Mum thought of the guy! She used to see him as he was based next to or very near to her Primary school! She didn't like him before the war, not to mention when it all got going!
Well, my Mum would have taken the Hitler-containing box of crackers back to the shop and kicked up a real to-do, demanding her money back and more! She was a stickler for what was right!
PS ๐!
Doubtful said on 21/Feb/17
@Me
Some people think that he had a Napoleon complex. He certainly did not have a Napoleon complex.
@Me
Some people think that he had a Napoleon complex. He certainly did not have a Napoleon complex.
Doubtful said on 18/Feb/17
Irving's source was Morell.
Morell said: 70 kilograms
Irving translated: 155 pounds
Morell said: 176 centimetres
Irving translated: 5 foot 9 inches
Irving's source was Morell.
Morell said: 70 kilograms
Irving translated: 155 pounds
Morell said: 176 centimetres
Irving translated: 5 foot 9 inches
RisingForce said on 15/Feb/17
Not to deviate from height too much, but I wouldn't believe everything you hear about the drug stuff. From what I remember, Morell gave virtually everything to Hitler in injections, but some of the stuff you now hear sounds a bit dubious and sensationalist to me.
Not to deviate from height too much, but I wouldn't believe everything you hear about the drug stuff. From what I remember, Morell gave virtually everything to Hitler in injections, but some of the stuff you now hear sounds a bit dubious and sensationalist to me.
Sandy Cowell said on 15/Feb/17
Very interesting Hijopotamas! That is lethal, horrid 'speed-like' stuff which makes the user anxious, paranoid and depressed. Hardly the sort of thing to be prescribed to someone with serious responsibilities. It really is outrageous how easily things like that were to get hold of and how little they knew about the consequences of taking it.
Very interesting Hijopotamas! That is lethal, horrid 'speed-like' stuff which makes the user anxious, paranoid and depressed. Hardly the sort of thing to be prescribed to someone with serious responsibilities. It really is outrageous how easily things like that were to get hold of and how little they knew about the consequences of taking it.
RisingForce said on 14/Feb/17
Funny enough, I'm also close to 5'8.5". As far as the measurement, I know Irving's books are edited a bit differently in terms of expressions for both English and American audience, so it's very possible he said 5'9" for an American audience and used the metric system for the British. This could imply either 174 cm rounded up, or possibly 175 cm, but we'll have to find out more. He can look both closer to 5'8" and 5'9" so this does seem the most logical listing until we get more information.
Funny enough, I'm also close to 5'8.5". As far as the measurement, I know Irving's books are edited a bit differently in terms of expressions for both English and American audience, so it's very possible he said 5'9" for an American audience and used the metric system for the British. This could imply either 174 cm rounded up, or possibly 175 cm, but we'll have to find out more. He can look both closer to 5'8" and 5'9" so this does seem the most logical listing until we get more information.
RisingForce said on 14/Feb/17
I don't know the details of Ribbentrop's measurement, although the 5'10" does look believable. If it was an accurate barefoot measurement then I do believe Hitler looks near 5'9" in comparison, of course he could still just as easily be 5'8.5". I can't measure people precisely in photos of course, though I personally see more of an inch rather than 2 inches. David Lloyd George actually looks closer to Hitler's height in those two photos than Mussolini does, but assuming those heights, I think Hitler looks closer to 5'8", albeit a strong 5'8" such as 5'8.25" with George and closer to a weak 5'9", say 5'8.75" with Mussolini.
I don't know the details of Ribbentrop's measurement, although the 5'10" does look believable. If it was an accurate barefoot measurement then I do believe Hitler looks near 5'9" in comparison, of course he could still just as easily be 5'8.5". I can't measure people precisely in photos of course, though I personally see more of an inch rather than 2 inches. David Lloyd George actually looks closer to Hitler's height in those two photos than Mussolini does, but assuming those heights, I think Hitler looks closer to 5'8", albeit a strong 5'8" such as 5'8.25" with George and closer to a weak 5'9", say 5'8.75" with Mussolini.
Sandy Cowell said on 14/Feb/17
@ Nik - Nowhere near as ๐disappointed as I'd have felt if a Hitler doll had popped out! ๐๐๐
Though I would have cheered up immediately if I'd have known that many years later, it would have been used to completely ๐obliterate the credibility of Hitler on his height page and fill it with utter nonsense! ๐
@ Nik - Nowhere near as ๐disappointed as I'd have felt if a Hitler doll had popped out! ๐๐๐
Though I would have cheered up immediately if I'd have known that many years later, it would have been used to completely ๐obliterate the credibility of Hitler on his height page and fill it with utter nonsense! ๐
MrFish said on 13/Feb/17
Rob, do you think that the 5ft 9in measurement may be a round-up of 174cm? I think that Germany would have used the metric system. I think that there is sufficient evidence that Hitler's height was near 5ft 8in, but I can't really see more than 5ft 8.5in (coincidentally my own height).
Editor Rob
Rob, do you think that the 5ft 9in measurement may be a round-up of 174cm? I think that Germany would have used the metric system. I think that there is sufficient evidence that Hitler's height was near 5ft 8in, but I can't really see more than 5ft 8.5in (coincidentally my own height).
Editor Rob as I mentioned, we don't know if he was listed in feet/inches or metric in his Doctor's report, Irving called it 5ft 9...
always possible it was rounded up, I think 174 is probably the best compromise, the general opinion from users is that he was probably a bit over a flat 5ft 8.
always possible it was rounded up, I think 174 is probably the best compromise, the general opinion from users is that he was probably a bit over a flat 5ft 8.
Hijopotamus said on 13/Feb/17
Doubtful, Morell was Hitler's personal drug dealer. Would you trust any of his reports?
Hitler became a drug addict after meeting Morell who first prescribed him metheanphetamine.
Doubtful, Morell was Hitler's personal drug dealer. Would you trust any of his reports?
Hitler became a drug addict after meeting Morell who first prescribed him metheanphetamine.
Rz said on 13/Feb/17
Solid 5'9
Hitler and Mussolini (169cm) side by side:
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Hitler and David Lloyd George (168cm) side by side:
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Solid 5'9
Hitler and Mussolini (169cm) side by side:
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Hitler and David Lloyd George (168cm) side by side:
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Nik said on 12/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I can imagine the disappointment you would feel as a little girl if a moustache popped out of your christmas cracker!
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I can imagine the disappointment you would feel as a little girl if a moustache popped out of your christmas cracker!
Tunman said on 10/Feb/17
@RisingForce Ribbentrop was measured at 178 by the allies the second pic you posted was the one I meant few weeks ago,in the first he definitely seems closer to the camera.
Okay I thought the difference was rather 5cm Rob perhaps thinks it's more likely 4.Actually Ribbentrop's hair is receding so could be a little fooling...hmmm perhaps 173,5cm is still the best answer but yeah 5'8.5 174 is fine,a little over a flat 5'8.
@RisingForce Ribbentrop was measured at 178 by the allies the second pic you posted was the one I meant few weeks ago,in the first he definitely seems closer to the camera.
Okay I thought the difference was rather 5cm Rob perhaps thinks it's more likely 4.Actually Ribbentrop's hair is receding so could be a little fooling...hmmm perhaps 173,5cm is still the best answer but yeah 5'8.5 174 is fine,a little over a flat 5'8.
James said on 9/Feb/17
Ribbentrop was listed as 6'1".
Ribbentrop was listed as 6'1".
RisingForce said on 7/Feb/17
I agree, Rob. It's certainly possible. There is more on the medical records out there so perhaps we can find the answer more definitively. If Ribbentrop truly was 5'10" then Hitler can look around 5'9", imo. Click Here Click Here But for now, I'd split the difference and say 5'8.5" would be the most likely guess.
Editor Rob
I agree, Rob. It's certainly possible. There is more on the medical records out there so perhaps we can find the answer more definitively. If Ribbentrop truly was 5'10" then Hitler can look around 5'9", imo. Click Here Click Here But for now, I'd split the difference and say 5'8.5" would be the most likely guess.
Editor Rob 5ft 8.5 may well be a better mark for him...I doubt the medical note about his height was made up, the question was if there was a metric value or just feet/inches.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Feb/17
@ Nik - Oh, those nasty, uncomfortable moustaches and big fake lips from the crackers! When I was a kid, I took my Christmas cracker toys very seriously indeed! I'd kick up a fuss if I ended up with something like that - a dreadful one with tantrums and tears! I wanted something girlie!
Mind you, those plastic moustaches look better than the one in question, which could pass for something that's been grown to disguise an extra large mole!
@ Nik - Oh, those nasty, uncomfortable moustaches and big fake lips from the crackers! When I was a kid, I took my Christmas cracker toys very seriously indeed! I'd kick up a fuss if I ended up with something like that - a dreadful one with tantrums and tears! I wanted something girlie!
Mind you, those plastic moustaches look better than the one in question, which could pass for something that's been grown to disguise an extra large mole!
Nik said on 6/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I think I remember seeing a moustache in a Christmas Cracker before, a black one I think like those you associate with being worn by private detectives. I got a really small ten pin bowling set in a Cracker last Christmas, my Mum didn't want it!
@Sandy Cowell
Yes I think I remember seeing a moustache in a Christmas Cracker before, a black one I think like those you associate with being worn by private detectives. I got a really small ten pin bowling set in a Cracker last Christmas, my Mum didn't want it!
RisingForce said on 5/Feb/17
Rob, I found a link to a PDF of the book Click Here Scroll to chapter titled "Fifty" and page 343 in the PDF.
Editor Rob
Rob, I found a link to a PDF of the book Click Here Scroll to chapter titled "Fifty" and page 343 in the PDF.
Editor Rob ok thanks for pointing it out, I'll add the quote.
The question is whether this is really accurate and if Adolf truly hit 5ft 9. It's not infeasible to believe.
The question is whether this is really accurate and if Adolf truly hit 5ft 9. It's not infeasible to believe.
Sandy Cowell said on 5/Feb/17
@ Nik - Too true Nik! I've found better ones in a Christmas Cracker!
@ Nik - Too true Nik! I've found better ones in a Christmas Cracker!
RisingForce said on 3/Feb/17
Rob, here's the quote I was referring to from "The War Path."
"As seen by his doctors in 1939, Adolf Hitler stood 5 foot 9 inches in socks and weighed about 155 pounds."
Rob, here's the quote I was referring to from "The War Path."
"As seen by his doctors in 1939, Adolf Hitler stood 5 foot 9 inches in socks and weighed about 155 pounds."
Nik said on 3/Feb/17
No he's not got much of a moustache.
No he's not got much of a moustache.
Sandy Cowell said on 1/Feb/17
Message received and understood! Splendid! ๐๐ฉ๐
Message received and understood! Splendid! ๐๐ฉ๐
Sandy Cowell said on 31/Jan/17
Oh, this again! I said a different word! One beginning in 's' and ending in 't'!
Editor Rob
I like to keep swearing to an absolute minimum, so that's the swear filter in action.
Oh, this again! I said a different word! One beginning in 's' and ending in 't'!
Editor RobI like to keep swearing to an absolute minimum, so that's the swear filter in action.
Sandy Cowell said on 31/Jan/17
What a bagoogle moustache!
What a bagoogle moustache!
RisingForce said on 30/Jan/17
Interesting about Hitler wearing lifts, Rob. I've never read that or even read that Hitler was bothered about his height. Then again, it's a near certainty that Stalin wore some sort of lifts or elevator shoes and we saw Kim Jong Il do it in recent years, so he wouldn't be the only dictator.
Interesting about Hitler wearing lifts, Rob. I've never read that or even read that Hitler was bothered about his height. Then again, it's a near certainty that Stalin wore some sort of lifts or elevator shoes and we saw Kim Jong Il do it in recent years, so he wouldn't be the only dictator.
James said on 30/Jan/17
Ribbentrop was said to be 6'1".
Ribbentrop was said to be 6'1".
Tunman said on 29/Jan/17
For those thinking he was 5'10 please google hitler with ribbentrop and lord londonderry he's a solid 2" shorter than ribbentrop.173 maybe 5'8.25 max,period.
For those thinking he was 5'10 please google hitler with ribbentrop and lord londonderry he's a solid 2" shorter than ribbentrop.173 maybe 5'8.25 max,period.
RisingForce said on 28/Jan/17
I'll type out the quote verbatim with the page when I time to look through my books, Rob. It's a shame my book is an American edition since I'd imagine that Irving as an Englishman would have used the metric system in the English version.
I'll type out the quote verbatim with the page when I time to look through my books, Rob. It's a shame my book is an American edition since I'd imagine that Irving as an Englishman would have used the metric system in the English version.
MrFish said on 28/Jan/17
Rob, what's the tallest that you'd guess Hitler at?
Editor Rob
Rob, what's the tallest that you'd guess Hitler at?
Editor Rob I can understand 5ft 8.5 guesses for him, that's certainly not impossible.
I'm still undecided about whether Adolf was a lift wearer. In history, propaganda can create all sorts of lies. But I certainly would think it a possibility...
Here is a quote from a book called Hitler's Ashes:
"The authors were surprised to learn that they could not find an official listing of Hitler's height in any of a large number of books about the Fuhrer. Approximately a dozen World War II historians were contacted, none of whom could furnish the desired information. One of these individuals, who had actually met Hitler, thought that he was very short but created an illusion of greater height by wearing elevator shoes and special caps with a very high peak. Others thought that Hitler was as tall as 5 feet, 11"
I'm still undecided about whether Adolf was a lift wearer. In history, propaganda can create all sorts of lies. But I certainly would think it a possibility...
Here is a quote from a book called Hitler's Ashes:
"The authors were surprised to learn that they could not find an official listing of Hitler's height in any of a large number of books about the Fuhrer. Approximately a dozen World War II historians were contacted, none of whom could furnish the desired information. One of these individuals, who had actually met Hitler, thought that he was very short but created an illusion of greater height by wearing elevator shoes and special caps with a very high peak. Others thought that Hitler was as tall as 5 feet, 11"
Hijopotamus said on 25/Jan/17
Also in the original photo Franco had his eyes closed and looks tiny compared to Adolf who had his eyes wide open as usual.
Also in the original photo Franco had his eyes closed and looks tiny compared to Adolf who had his eyes wide open as usual.
RisingForce said on 24/Jan/17
David Irving's book The War Path mentions him measuring 5'9" in socks in either 1938 or 1939 and also mentioned a specific weight of something like 158 pounds or possibly 162, I don't remember. But in any case, Irving had found Hitler's medical records in the 70's so it may be legitimate. I'd believe anything from 5'8" to 5'9" anyway.
Editor Rob
David Irving's book The War Path mentions him measuring 5'9" in socks in either 1938 or 1939 and also mentioned a specific weight of something like 158 pounds or possibly 162, I don't remember. But in any case, Irving had found Hitler's medical records in the 70's so it may be legitimate. I'd believe anything from 5'8" to 5'9" anyway.
Editor Rob that's interesting if the 5ft 9 measurement is true, very!
Hijopotamus said on 24/Jan/17
Franco was 160 cm and very conscious about his looks.
That pic with Hitler was "photoshopped" so to make Franco look taller and one cross he was wearing was changed into another type of thing, cannot remember ....but theres a story about that pic and Franco being taller than in reality
Franco was 160 cm and very conscious about his looks.
That pic with Hitler was "photoshopped" so to make Franco look taller and one cross he was wearing was changed into another type of thing, cannot remember ....but theres a story about that pic and Franco being taller than in reality
lasla said on 23/Jan/17
Rob, do you think that hitler could grow to 175cm in morning?
Editor Rob
Rob, do you think that hitler could grow to 175cm in morning?
Editor Rob lasla, it depends on what you think he was afternoon, 173 or 174cm, but he would surely be near 175 even if he shrunk down to 173.
Johnson said on 8/Jan/17
Upload the img to other source it does not work
Upload the img to other source it does not work
Doubtful said on 8/Jan/17
@Johnson The link works again.
@Johnson The link works again.
James said on 8/Jan/17
Franco was less than 5'4", like Canaris.
Franco was less than 5'4", like Canaris.
Johnson said on 7/Jan/17
@Doubtful I cannot see the pic
@Doubtful I cannot see the pic
Doubtful said on 7/Jan/17
@Johnson Hitler's height should not be estimated upon Franco's height because we do not know Franco's actual height.
Use the data from the U.S. Army:
Rosenberg: 1.80 m
Doenitz: 1.79 m
Frick: 1.78 m
Goering: 1.78 m
Ribbentrop: 1.78 m
Here we have two (or probably three) 1.78 m people in one picture: Click Here .
@Johnson Hitler's height should not be estimated upon Franco's height because we do not know Franco's actual height.
Use the data from the U.S. Army:
Rosenberg: 1.80 m
Doenitz: 1.79 m
Frick: 1.78 m
Goering: 1.78 m
Ribbentrop: 1.78 m
Here we have two (or probably three) 1.78 m people in one picture: Click Here .
MJKoP said on 7/Jan/17
James said on 5/Jan/17
He only wore ordinary shoes.
You knew him?
James said on 5/Jan/17
He only wore ordinary shoes.
You knew him?
Johnson said on 6/Jan/17
@James Franco 163 officially. Why did you say 164? There are one pic of both shaking hands and Hitler looks 173-175 but far of 177 cm
@James Franco 163 officially. Why did you say 164? There are one pic of both shaking hands and Hitler looks 173-175 but far of 177 cm
Doubtful said on 6/Jan/17
1.78 m or 1.77 m are possible. It says here that 1.73 m was the measurement result by the Austrian Army. But is there any reliable source for this information? I think Goering's height is reliable.
1.78 m or 1.77 m are possible. It says here that 1.73 m was the measurement result by the Austrian Army. But is there any reliable source for this information? I think Goering's height is reliable.
James said on 5/Jan/17
He only wore ordinary shoes.
He only wore ordinary shoes.
Hijopotamus said on 3/Jan/17
This guy slept on his military gear and boots so subtract an inch of what you are considering.
This guy slept on his military gear and boots so subtract an inch of what you are considering.
James said on 3/Jan/17
The historian was definitely right about Hitler being 5'10". ...
Editor Rob
The historian was definitely right about Hitler being 5'10". ...
Editor Rob as I said, let's stick to height, and as much as possible.
I would be shocked if Adolf measured 5ft 10.
I would be shocked if Adolf measured 5ft 10.
James said on 3/Jan/17
I apologise to anyone from the United States who takes offence at criticism of Churchill, they may not realise just how hated he was in the UK.
I apologise to anyone from the United States who takes offence at criticism of Churchill, they may not realise just how hated he was in the UK.
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Jan/17
@ MJKoP ๐
@ MJKoP ๐
MJKoP said on 2/Jan/17
MJKoP said on 1/Jan/17
Rob, are you really going to permit disgusting revisionist crap comments like the two on Christmas day?
Editor Rob: I'll take away the comparison comment, but the other? It's an opinion he looked 5ft 10.
Well, the "opinion" was based off of an excerpt from a book that appeared to be authored by a Pro-Nazi psychopath. I see you deleted the link to the highlighted passage, but I don't think any such biased information should be allowed as evidence. And I'm not concluding the guy was Pro-Nazi solely due to the 5'10" claim...I googled the man and many of his viewpoints are very questionable.
Editor Rob
MJKoP said on 1/Jan/17
Rob, are you really going to permit disgusting revisionist crap comments like the two on Christmas day?
Editor Rob: I'll take away the comparison comment, but the other? It's an opinion he looked 5ft 10.
Well, the "opinion" was based off of an excerpt from a book that appeared to be authored by a Pro-Nazi psychopath. I see you deleted the link to the highlighted passage, but I don't think any such biased information should be allowed as evidence. And I'm not concluding the guy was Pro-Nazi solely due to the 5'10" claim...I googled the man and many of his viewpoints are very questionable.
Editor Rob when I clicked the link nothing showed up from the book, it was an empty page, so it was a useless link.
Although it would have been interesting to see what the passage said surrounding this 5ft 10 belief.
Although it would have been interesting to see what the passage said surrounding this 5ft 10 belief.
MJKoP said on 1/Jan/17
Rob, are you really going to permit disgusting revisionist crap comments like the two on Christmas day?
Editor Rob
Rob, are you really going to permit disgusting revisionist crap comments like the two on Christmas day?
Editor Rob I'll take away the comparison comment, but the other? It's an opinion he looked 5ft 10.
Guest said on 25/Dec/16
Please change it. Hitler was approximately 5 feet 10 inches tall (178 cm) tall.
Please also look at pictures of Hitler standing next to Goering. He was about as tall as Goering whose height was 178 cm according to the Nuremberg detention report.
Please change it. Hitler was approximately 5 feet 10 inches tall (178 cm) tall.
Please also look at pictures of Hitler standing next to Goering. He was about as tall as Goering whose height was 178 cm according to the Nuremberg detention report.
leo said on 20/Dec/16
rob how does it feel to be the same height as one of the most evil men of all time?
Editor Rob
rob how does it feel to be the same height as one of the most evil men of all time?
Editor Rob leo, there are evil men of all heights, religions, races and heights.
There are also a lot of good 5ft 8 men and women!
There are also a lot of good 5ft 8 men and women!
berta said on 10/Dec/16
i just saw a documentary about him i thoรญยญnk he looked in the 175 range in it but if he was measured 173 then thats right but no shorter he looked a little taller
i just saw a documentary about him i thoรญยญnk he looked in the 175 range in it but if he was measured 173 then thats right but no shorter he looked a little taller
ragty said on 1/Dec/16
Hitler lost a few inches towards the end of the war due to a crooked back. Peak height 5ft8.5
Hitler lost a few inches towards the end of the war due to a crooked back. Peak height 5ft8.5
James said on 26/Nov/16
Hitler was at least 5 inches taller than 5'4" Admiral Canaris.
Hitler was at least 5 inches taller than 5'4" Admiral Canaris.
James said on 25/Nov/16
@James So true. Hitler was a solid 5' 9".
Here some pics with 1.63-1.64 Franco:
Click Here
@James So true. Hitler was a solid 5' 9".
Here some pics with 1.63-1.64 Franco:
Click Here
James said on 23/Nov/16
The Versailles Treaty ensured World War II happened. If it hadn't been Hitler leading Germany it would have been someone else.
He was easily 5'10" at his peak.
Don't forget the European colonial powers were occupying half the world in 1939.
The Versailles Treaty ensured World War II happened. If it hadn't been Hitler leading Germany it would have been someone else.
He was easily 5'10" at his peak.
Don't forget the European colonial powers were occupying half the world in 1939.
phil said on 20/Nov/16
Hey Rob,considering you dont mind adding infamous people, would you consider adding Ted Bundy? I think people would be quite interested.
Hey Rob,considering you dont mind adding infamous people, would you consider adding Ted Bundy? I think people would be quite interested.
Bobby said on 18/Nov/16
The Nazis wore what we would call today, elevator shoes. They weren't very blessed in stature, and so wore those boots, which allegedly gave three inches to their height to look more intimidating. I'm a strong 5'10 guy, if I put on those boots, I'd be 6'1. I think now the average German height is about 5'11. Close to the average of Greece which is 5'10.
The Nazis wore what we would call today, elevator shoes. They weren't very blessed in stature, and so wore those boots, which allegedly gave three inches to their height to look more intimidating. I'm a strong 5'10 guy, if I put on those boots, I'd be 6'1. I think now the average German height is about 5'11. Close to the average of Greece which is 5'10.
Aza said on 15/Nov/16
Yep.. good listing Rob.
Yep.. good listing Rob.
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Nov/16
PS: Himler might be spelt with 2 M's (ie: Himmler! Sorry about that folks!)
PS: Himler might be spelt with 2 M's (ie: Himmler! Sorry about that folks!)
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Nov/16
What on Earth...?
OK - here goes! Before the war, when my German Mum was a tiny little girl, she used to regularly see this megalomaniac hanging round the place where he was conducting his goings-on at the time! It could have still been in the 20's, but it might have been in the early 30's. All I know is that it was before the war, so Hitler was 'stewing', so to speak! My Mum is, alas, no longer with us to ask.
Anyway, when she first told me, and I was certainly old enough to understand the enormity of what he did, I was absolutely
staggered! My Mum looked to the skies and said, "he was a seedy-looking excuse for a man!"
She also looked daggers at me as if to say "WTF's the big deal? He was nothing to look at!"
She was beaten up at 16, for refusing to join the 'Hitler Youth', and then the boy was pounced on and beaten up by a PROPER man for picking on a girl!
She also risked being put into a concentration camp for saying about Himler "he has the hands of a murderer!" to an SS officer.
When she came to this country in the late 40's, all Germans were tarred with the same brush! There were some of them who hated the war and knew that Germany had to lose. My Mum knew many of them!
She risked her life standing up for what she knew was right and just, and for that I am proud of her!
(Hitler and Himler were different people! It isn't a typing error!)
What on Earth...?
OK - here goes! Before the war, when my German Mum was a tiny little girl, she used to regularly see this megalomaniac hanging round the place where he was conducting his goings-on at the time! It could have still been in the 20's, but it might have been in the early 30's. All I know is that it was before the war, so Hitler was 'stewing', so to speak! My Mum is, alas, no longer with us to ask.
Anyway, when she first told me, and I was certainly old enough to understand the enormity of what he did, I was absolutely
staggered! My Mum looked to the skies and said, "he was a seedy-looking excuse for a man!"
She also looked daggers at me as if to say "WTF's the big deal? He was nothing to look at!"
She was beaten up at 16, for refusing to join the 'Hitler Youth', and then the boy was pounced on and beaten up by a PROPER man for picking on a girl!
She also risked being put into a concentration camp for saying about Himler "he has the hands of a murderer!" to an SS officer.
When she came to this country in the late 40's, all Germans were tarred with the same brush! There were some of them who hated the war and knew that Germany had to lose. My Mum knew many of them!
She risked her life standing up for what she knew was right and just, and for that I am proud of her!
(Hitler and Himler were different people! It isn't a typing error!)
James said on 22/Oct/16
He was clearly taller than Mussolini, so no way was he only 5'6". Germany and Italy should have declared war on the US in 1940 after the Destroyers for Bases Agreement.
He was clearly taller than Mussolini, so no way was he only 5'6". Germany and Italy should have declared war on the US in 1940 after the Destroyers for Bases Agreement.
MrFish said on 19/Oct/16
Rob, would you estimate 5ft 8in in 1945? He would have been 56 years old.
Editor Rob
Rob, would you estimate 5ft 8in in 1945? He would have been 56 years old.
Editor Rob I think a man like Adolf would have kept good height till his 50's, albeit a tiny fraction lost isn't unbelievable.
Phil said on 18/Oct/16
i am a 5 foot 10 german guy and Hitler was a 5 foot 8 austrian guy. he was NOT german. sorry Adolf.
by the way in Germany we call the austrians " apfelstrudel"
i am a 5 foot 10 german guy and Hitler was a 5 foot 8 austrian guy. he was NOT german. sorry Adolf.
by the way in Germany we call the austrians " apfelstrudel"
James said on 14/Oct/16
Hitler should be upgraded to 5'9". I've never understood why Americans pretend they were still neutral after Lend-Lease began in March 1941.
Hitler should be upgraded to 5'9". I've never understood why Americans pretend they were still neutral after Lend-Lease began in March 1941.
Danny Gilad said on 6/Sep/16
According to published measurements and close observations of people who met him he was between 5'8'' and 5'9'' [173-75] which was the average height of german men of his age. Goebbels was very short about 5'4'' or 5'5'' and had deformed club feet which caused his waddling gait
According to published measurements and close observations of people who met him he was between 5'8'' and 5'9'' [173-75] which was the average height of german men of his age. Goebbels was very short about 5'4'' or 5'5'' and had deformed club feet which caused his waddling gait
Ejel Khan said on 29/Aug/16
In his peak the fรผhrer was listed as 175cm and 168llbs. 5'9" and 12st. These records are from WW1, when he was 25. They should be accurate as they were official army records leaked online. Discourse concerning his height is mere conjecture propogated by the allies. In 1914 5'9" was considered above median height. 5'5" Chaplin's portrayal of Hitler perpetuated the short myth.
In his peak the fรผhrer was listed as 175cm and 168llbs. 5'9" and 12st. These records are from WW1, when he was 25. They should be accurate as they were official army records leaked online. Discourse concerning his height is mere conjecture propogated by the allies. In 1914 5'9" was considered above median height. 5'5" Chaplin's portrayal of Hitler perpetuated the short myth.
MrFish said on 19/Aug/16
Rob, do you know what source has Hitler at 5ft 8.5in? Thanks.
Editor Rob
Rob, do you know what source has Hitler at 5ft 8.5in? Thanks.
Editor Rob it is supposed to be from military records. Back in the 30's and 40's he was typically called about 5ft 8
Sam said on 9/Aug/16
Its not exactly fair that people are calling him short when he was born in the late 1800s and the average was pretty much 2 inches shorter than it is today. Look at it objectively and he'd be 5'10 if he was born 100 years later. Some might argue is still a modest height, especially for someone with that much power, but definately not short, not even 5'8 is short by todays standards. Its pretty common and average for old folk.
Its not exactly fair that people are calling him short when he was born in the late 1800s and the average was pretty much 2 inches shorter than it is today. Look at it objectively and he'd be 5'10 if he was born 100 years later. Some might argue is still a modest height, especially for someone with that much power, but definately not short, not even 5'8 is short by todays standards. Its pretty common and average for old folk.
Tunman said on 30/Jul/16
@66sick
About 5'4 and nothing to do with a tall blond blue eyed Nordic,lol.Funny how the worst antisemites were miles away from what they pretended to be the "master race".Streicher was roughly 5'6 and bald,Himmler was sickish throughout his life and Ley was only 169 fat and alchoholic.Regardless of their horrible deeds,it's incredible how Nazi Germany put trust in such individuals as incarnations of "Aryans".I guess that Goebbels who genuinely had an exceptional talent for rhetoric which challenged Hitler's charisma especially when the defeat was becoming more and more obvious in the last 2 years was able to compensate all his physical handicaps as he was very convincing as a speaker(and interestingly successful with women).
@66sick
About 5'4 and nothing to do with a tall blond blue eyed Nordic,lol.Funny how the worst antisemites were miles away from what they pretended to be the "master race".Streicher was roughly 5'6 and bald,Himmler was sickish throughout his life and Ley was only 169 fat and alchoholic.Regardless of their horrible deeds,it's incredible how Nazi Germany put trust in such individuals as incarnations of "Aryans".I guess that Goebbels who genuinely had an exceptional talent for rhetoric which challenged Hitler's charisma especially when the defeat was becoming more and more obvious in the last 2 years was able to compensate all his physical handicaps as he was very convincing as a speaker(and interestingly successful with women).
66sick said on 23/Jul/16
how tall was goebbels
how tall was goebbels
neurotic said on 22/Jul/16
Rob, could you give an estimate on the height of Hitler's niece, Geli Raubal? She was described as tall in one account, and she's barely shorter than her uncle in pictures.
Editor Rob
Rob, could you give an estimate on the height of Hitler's niece, Geli Raubal? She was described as tall in one account, and she's barely shorter than her uncle in pictures.
Editor Rob would need to find time to look at her, at the moment above average yes.
Tunman said on 11/Jun/16
@ghostbuster
I assure you I've seen enough vids to tell without the least doubt that Heydrich is not the 191 listed at.Trust me Himmler at 174 reaches at least his eyelevel so definitely he won't be more than 186.
I was the first surprised to discover that the SS were actually only average height really no more than 5'8 in the end.However,I reckon that some high ranking officers were indeed tall,the average for them must have been near 5'10,as many,though not all,had high positions in society (lawyers,physicians,even some from the nobility)
@ghostbuster
I assure you I've seen enough vids to tell without the least doubt that Heydrich is not the 191 listed at.Trust me Himmler at 174 reaches at least his eyelevel so definitely he won't be more than 186.
I was the first surprised to discover that the SS were actually only average height really no more than 5'8 in the end.However,I reckon that some high ranking officers were indeed tall,the average for them must have been near 5'10,as many,though not all,had high positions in society (lawyers,physicians,even some from the nobility)
ghostbuster said on 5/Jun/16
@Tunman
You forgot Reinhard Heydrich, he was 191 cm tall
@Tunman
You forgot Reinhard Heydrich, he was 191 cm tall
Dadson said on 10/Apr/16
Hitler was of average military man height. I can tell from the pictures. In the mordern, technological world a short man is fittest as head of state.
Hitler was of average military man height. I can tell from the pictures. In the mordern, technological world a short man is fittest as head of state.
Tom said on 17/Mar/16
If I might be allowed to reply, no I am not German but I think you have to remember the part the British Empire and France played in causing World War II.
Editor Rob
If I might be allowed to reply, no I am not German but I think you have to remember the part the British Empire and France played in causing World War II.
Editor Rob it's best we stick to height on this page, as sometimes it could veer off and end up a discussion not suited for celebheights...
5ft 9.25 said on 12/Mar/16
@Tom
Are you German as well?
@Tom
Are you German as well?
5ft 9.25 said on 10/Mar/16
I wouldn't rule out 5ft 9 peak. If Austrians measured accurately 100 years ago is more than questionable... In his final years he suffered from several injuries and appears an inch shorter.
I wouldn't rule out 5ft 9 peak. If Austrians measured accurately 100 years ago is more than questionable... In his final years he suffered from several injuries and appears an inch shorter.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
Hitler should be upgraded to 5'9". Don't forget he offered to end the war in July 1940 and again in May 1941.
Hitler should be upgraded to 5'9". Don't forget he offered to end the war in July 1940 and again in May 1941.
LoganNoll1996 said on 16/Feb/16
Looking at photos on google, Hitler was close in height to Rommel. 5'8" seems good though I wouldn't leave 5'9" out of the question since he could look similar in height to Himmler.
Looking at photos on google, Hitler was close in height to Rommel. 5'8" seems good though I wouldn't leave 5'9" out of the question since he could look similar in height to Himmler.
The Antropologist. said on 13/Jan/16
The average height for Nordics in 1927, was that of 173-174 cm. Same height as the Viking times. While romans were around 158 cm at the same time as us big Germanics. Hitler belongs distinct into 2 white archetypes of race. The Dinaric and the West Phallian Cro-magnon morphology. he was certaintly not a short man as some misinformed people write here. I heard inside rumours of Hitler being around 178 cm actually? But I cant verify that. So the height of Vikings were the same thousand years earlier. In the dark centuries of the medieval starvation/plague and poor living standards dropped to 169 cm again for Northern Europe. Im an race expert and studied races for more than 15 years and read over 4 Million pages on the subject. The average height of Nordics being 178-180 cm for around 35 years old now. The new offspring tend to meassure now 182,5 cm in Denmark as second largest people and 184,4 cm in Holland as the tallest white people. Where the land is most flat you find the tallest types. Like Denmark Jutland Anglo blood or Wallon/Dinaric to Anglo in Holland typically. In rain forest people get bushman height because of the undergrowth of the forest. Hope this shed some light on the true facts here. Sincerly Viking.
The average height for Nordics in 1927, was that of 173-174 cm. Same height as the Viking times. While romans were around 158 cm at the same time as us big Germanics. Hitler belongs distinct into 2 white archetypes of race. The Dinaric and the West Phallian Cro-magnon morphology. he was certaintly not a short man as some misinformed people write here. I heard inside rumours of Hitler being around 178 cm actually? But I cant verify that. So the height of Vikings were the same thousand years earlier. In the dark centuries of the medieval starvation/plague and poor living standards dropped to 169 cm again for Northern Europe. Im an race expert and studied races for more than 15 years and read over 4 Million pages on the subject. The average height of Nordics being 178-180 cm for around 35 years old now. The new offspring tend to meassure now 182,5 cm in Denmark as second largest people and 184,4 cm in Holland as the tallest white people. Where the land is most flat you find the tallest types. Like Denmark Jutland Anglo blood or Wallon/Dinaric to Anglo in Holland typically. In rain forest people get bushman height because of the undergrowth of the forest. Hope this shed some light on the true facts here. Sincerly Viking.
Lardy said on 2/Jan/16
He wS shirt for his height.
He wS shirt for his height.
LoganNoll1996 said on 3/Dec/15
Rob, how tall would you guess Heinrich Himmler to be? Most sources list him as 5'9" and one source even gave him a 5'8.5" listing. Yet he can look the same height as Hitler who you have as a flat 5'8".
Also I believe that was mid/upper average back then height-wise. Nowadays 5'8" is considered low-average for humans in general.
Editor Rob
Rob, how tall would you guess Heinrich Himmler to be? Most sources list him as 5'9" and one source even gave him a 5'8.5" listing. Yet he can look the same height as Hitler who you have as a flat 5'8".
Also I believe that was mid/upper average back then height-wise. Nowadays 5'8" is considered low-average for humans in general.
Editor Rob 174 might have been possible
Tom said on 25/Nov/15
Hitler was certainly taller than 5'8".
I don't know why anyone would object to this page. The Versailles Treaty ensured there would be World War II, and if it hadn't been Hitler leading Germany then it would have been someone else.
Hitler was certainly taller than 5'8".
I don't know why anyone would object to this page. The Versailles Treaty ensured there would be World War II, and if it hadn't been Hitler leading Germany then it would have been someone else.
Shorya said on 20/Nov/15
I don't believe..... I thought he was too short in height....
I don't believe..... I thought he was too short in height....
Larry said on 18/Oct/15
Hitler was 5'9".
Editor Rob
Hitler was 5'9".
Editor Rob it is best to stick to height.
Rajat said on 10/Oct/15
From a lot of persons I got to conclude that He was a man of a short stature but big impact... His style was unique.. Height about b/w 5'5" to 5'7"... who knows if he used to wear high healed shoes.. so to look a little tall.. most of the men do
From a lot of persons I got to conclude that He was a man of a short stature but big impact... His style was unique.. Height about b/w 5'5" to 5'7"... who knows if he used to wear high healed shoes.. so to look a little tall.. most of the men do
BrandonB said on 9/Oct/15
how tall was Mussolini rob? looked smaller than Hitler
Editor Rob
how tall was Mussolini rob? looked smaller than Hitler
Editor Rob Mussolini probably was near to 5ft 6. There are insance 5ft 9 and 'barely over 5ft' descriptions, but in a few books that 5ft 6 figure seems common.
W.Wilmink said on 7/Oct/15
Gรถring was 5.8 173 cm, Adolf Hitler was 2 or 3 inch smaller. Goebbels was a real dwarf 5.1 or 5.2 ! Every has to sit on the chair when he comes into a room !
Gรถring was 5.8 173 cm, Adolf Hitler was 2 or 3 inch smaller. Goebbels was a real dwarf 5.1 or 5.2 ! Every has to sit on the chair when he comes into a room !
Larry said on 18/Sep/15
I thought Hitler was 5'9".
I thought Hitler was 5'9".
VinMan said on 16/Sep/15
This is the most blatantly wrong one I've seen here. Hitler was between 5'9" and 5'10". Some sources even say 5'11". He CERTAINLY was not 5'8".
This is the most blatantly wrong one I've seen here. Hitler was between 5'9" and 5'10". Some sources even say 5'11". He CERTAINLY was not 5'8".
Key said on 3/Sep/15
lol. I was Googling Presidents heights, and Hitler came up. Rob, why do you think Google changed his height from 5'8 to 5'9? Its been 5'8 ever since I first Googled him 2 years ago. Now they changed it. Why do you think that is?
Editor Rob
lol. I was Googling Presidents heights, and Hitler came up. Rob, why do you think Google changed his height from 5'8 to 5'9? Its been 5'8 ever since I first Googled him 2 years ago. Now they changed it. Why do you think that is?
Editor Rob I put myself as an Editor and try to interact. You could ask them if you want and see if they respond...
As for Adolf, there are reports he was measured 5ft 8 and 8.5.
One person who met him once said, "To the fraction, he was as tall as I, five feet eight inches"...
As for Adolf, there are reports he was measured 5ft 8 and 8.5.
One person who met him once said, "To the fraction, he was as tall as I, five feet eight inches"...
Tunman said on 25/Aug/15
@Melon
I know, Goering could even give a 5'6-7 impression in some pics but the thing is that he was measured by the allies at 178.In fact 179 isn't excluded at peak since he was fat and addicted to morphine.
I think Hitler was too often given advantage for pics even if it's not that obvious.
With almost every person whose height is known he looked way over 5'8.
We may always assume the allies measured their prisonners with shoes on but nothing is less certain.
@Melon
I know, Goering could even give a 5'6-7 impression in some pics but the thing is that he was measured by the allies at 178.In fact 179 isn't excluded at peak since he was fat and addicted to morphine.
I think Hitler was too often given advantage for pics even if it's not that obvious.
With almost every person whose height is known he looked way over 5'8.
We may always assume the allies measured their prisonners with shoes on but nothing is less certain.
Melon said on 19/Aug/15
Gรถring as 5'10" is preposterous. There's plenty of pictures with him and Hitler standing side by side and in most pictures Gรถring doesn't appear any taller than Hitler, in fact they look pretty much the same height :
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If he was really that height, that would make Hitler also at 5'10".
Gรถring as 5'10" is preposterous. There's plenty of pictures with him and Hitler standing side by side and in most pictures Gรถring doesn't appear any taller than Hitler, in fact they look pretty much the same height :
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If he was really that height, that would make Hitler also at 5'10".
michael said on 8/Jun/15
so you are saying hitler thought of himself as short?
Editor Rob
so you are saying hitler thought of himself as short?
Editor Rob I don't know what Hitler would have thought himself, but others do like to attack the short tag when describing or mentioning him.
haz said on 7/Jun/15
hitler often gets listed as short and complexed about height in historical articles, although 5ft8in is a pretty average height for 2015 and I imagine for the 1940's it migh have been even above average
Rob, would you say Hitler is called short/complexed to give him a motive for being a megalomaniac dictator or in 1940 the german average height was already above 5'9?
Editor Rob
hitler often gets listed as short and complexed about height in historical articles, although 5ft8in is a pretty average height for 2015 and I imagine for the 1940's it migh have been even above average
Rob, would you say Hitler is called short/complexed to give him a motive for being a megalomaniac dictator or in 1940 the german average height was already above 5'9?
Editor Rob there may be elements to attaching mention of his stature in a negative manner and with vague reason for why he had the beliefs he did.
Tunman said on 2/Jun/15
@JB
Ladislas Farago in his book about Bormann pointed that the Berlin Archives showed Bormann's height as 165 (5'5)which seems perfect as he constantly looked at least 3"shorter than Hitler.
As for Goering he was measured at 178 by the Allies,however he was quite fat and held really poor posture most of the time.In some videos,he could look 2"taller than Hitler,although rarely I must say.
Also quite interesting that so many people today think of the nazis as tall men.
Having seen lots of sources I recall only 3 famous nazis over 190
Ernst Kaltenbrunner 192 from his papers (no way 6'7,also his wife described him as 6'4 to the Allies)
Otto Skorzeny 192 famous for freeing Mussolini
Amon Goeth 193 KL commander made famous by the movie Schindler's List,measured by the Allies.
@JB
Ladislas Farago in his book about Bormann pointed that the Berlin Archives showed Bormann's height as 165 (5'5)which seems perfect as he constantly looked at least 3"shorter than Hitler.
As for Goering he was measured at 178 by the Allies,however he was quite fat and held really poor posture most of the time.In some videos,he could look 2"taller than Hitler,although rarely I must say.
Also quite interesting that so many people today think of the nazis as tall men.
Having seen lots of sources I recall only 3 famous nazis over 190
Ernst Kaltenbrunner 192 from his papers (no way 6'7,also his wife described him as 6'4 to the Allies)
Otto Skorzeny 192 famous for freeing Mussolini
Amon Goeth 193 KL commander made famous by the movie Schindler's List,measured by the Allies.
JB said on 29/May/15
I was curious about this page and did a little research. Goering was listed as tall, 5'10" & Borman, short 5'7" In a couple of photos Hitler seems to stand higher than both. Can't seem to find a historically proven height for Adolf. Some of the comments here are interesting to say the least.
I was curious about this page and did a little research. Goering was listed as tall, 5'10" & Borman, short 5'7" In a couple of photos Hitler seems to stand higher than both. Can't seem to find a historically proven height for Adolf. Some of the comments here are interesting to say the least.
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