Gotxo said on 9/May/06
Frank:
When i asked Rob how did run into you it wasn't a question of how you could be allowed since you're an great contributor. The N
Gotxo said on 9/May/06
Frank2:
Yeah, i'm uninformed & clueless that's why i post here.
I'm glad to see that Rob allows almost everyone to post here his opinions,i have a lot of fun making my guesses and posting here. In fact that's the strong point of the page, a kind of betting in some manner (basque guys love bets).
With no debate on heights this site would not exist.
Gonzalo:
I was not insulting Frank, only saying that this guy amazes me, i think he's a ok guy.
Viper652 said on 5/May/06
Arnold doesnt look 6-4 in his movies Steve.
Dex said on 4/May/06
D. Ray Morton, simply type in Arnold: The Early Years or 1980 Mr. Olympia on Google. If you need any more help let me know! You will see for yourself how tall Arnold truly is or was!
Steve said on 4/May/06
My opinion. I believe that Arnold was probably 6'1.6 or something and Billed as 6'2" as there's not that much in it. I myself say I'm 6'1" when I'm actually 6'0.3/4. It's just easier to round off and I clearly am when in my shoes lol.
Arnold doesn't look 6'2" in his movies he looks 6'4" that's what movies do coupled with his muscle size and big boots only adds to this. So people are surprised when this 6'1" one guy meets them.
Only time he looked small to me in a film was in Batman and Robin where he was standing by the Asylum Gaurds. This made me believe the 5'10" rumours for a little while till I realised he was next to 6'6" Ralf Moeller and and 6'4" Jesse Ventura....Barefoot.
D. Ray Morton said on 4/May/06
Dex, where did you see/get "The Early Years" and "The Comeback"? I haven't been able to find them.
sd2002 said on 3/May/06
I believe Arnold is actually 6 ft. There's a picture of him and the Red Sonja cast and I think he's next to Bridgette Nielson, who is suppose to be 6 ft. I'm not sure if this was Muscle and Fitness (talked about the worst bodybuilding movies I believe? not too long ago) but he was exactly her height. Quite possibly a smidge taller.
mike said on 3/May/06
i just read the "governators" article on espn today about how arnold wants to have 2 los angeles football teams in california, and in his picture to his left and right were the los angeles and anaheim mayors. the one to his left he towered over, and the one to his right he had by a couple of inches, anyone know how tall these guys r around??? maybe frank2 read the article and seen the picture if hes a sports fan or has met the la and anaheim mayors respectively
Dex said on 3/May/06
Arnold MAY have been under 6 feet (5`11" and 1/2) or so in his early twenties.
He also MAY be under 6 feet today at 5`11 or so. However after reading and viewing everything that was presented here as well as the DVD`s "Arnold - the Early Years and The COMEBACK" I am convinced Arnold was at his PEAK HEIGHT 6`1 or even 6` 1 1/2". This guy is an American Icon and subconciously I think a lot of people would like to find a chink in his armour. He is still a big guy rougly 6 feet or so giving a 1/2 inch either way!
Frank2 said on 3/May/06
I should identify myself? How about all of you putting down your real names and private email addresses? I did give my true identity on another forum and after I listed it I had a bunch of nuts go after me. The world is too filled with loonies these days for me to let that happen again. Trust Rob. He knows. I've sent him enough stuff to prove who I am. And the weight I carry is all in my flabby body. Your contention that I throw proverbial weight around might be true, but put yourself in my place. I've actually seen many of these people up close, even known several of them. I sat reading nonsense so finally I decided to start posting. You'd do the same thing if you were in my lift-free shoes and I'm also certain you'd remain anonymous as well. You can hang on my words or dismiss them entirely. That's your right as an individual. But don't tell me to come forward until all of you come forward with your true names and private email addresses. Then I just might consider revealing myself. Until then it'll continue to go by Frank2. OK Gramps?
Gramps said on 3/May/06
Well Frank2, we all hear you say you've met Arnold (and a boatload of other celebrities), but someone on a board like this saying something doesn't necessarily make it so. You have chosen to keep your identity "anonymous," and out of the same breath you ask all of us to read the gospel according to Frank2, who has all this first-hand knowledge of all these celebrities. So I say, if you want your "say so" to carry weight on this board, you should identify yourself (with a confirmation from Editor Rob) so we can all take comfort in knowing what you claim is reasonably true. You've been asking a lot of people here to take your claims on faith up to now. IMHO it's time to show your cards. If you choose to remain anonymous, fine, but then don't expect people to hang on your every word.
Leung said on 2/May/06
I agree with Frank2 when it comes to Schwarzenegger's height, he is easily 6
OnCapeCod said on 2/May/06
He is 5'11".....he wears lifts. The end. Stop the hysterics.
Frank2 said on 2/May/06
Look folks, I've met Arnold, seen him right up close and can say without reservation that he's taller than me by at least two inches and some people feel I'm closer to being six feet tall than being five-eleven. And he wasn't wearing lifts or even shoes with big heels. He's just a big guy and very much like John Wayne, he's despised by many on the far left. That's why they write tripe like the garbage in US Weekly. Funny how we never read asinine crap like "Tim Robbins is 5'10" and wears huge lifts to look 6'5"." But I'm sure that if Robbins was a conservative, and especially if he ran for office he'd be targeted by small minds as well. I'm really sick to death of all this nonsense. People need to get a life.
Gramps said on 1/May/06
Zach: I wonder if both of them have full-time engineers on their staffs. :-D
rick said on 1/May/06
While Arnold Schwarzenegger's height was always believed to be 6 feet, 2 inches (1.88 m), a July 2002 article in US Weekly magazine speculated that Schwarzenegger was actually closer to 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m). During his campaign for governorship it was noted that Schwarzenegger was considerably shorter than many expected, with others putting his height at around 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m), exactly as reported in US Weekly. His spokespeople now give his height as 6 ft even (1.83 m). His competition height may have been closer to 6'2", as humans lose a small amount of height with age.
Click Here
Zach said on 1/May/06
Gramps, come over to Sly's thread if you want to see pioneer engineering in elevator footwear ;)
Last Action Hero said on 30/Apr/06
Zach:
Well, I agree on that, because he wasn't so broad-shouldered guy before he started working out...
Zach said on 29/Apr/06
Regarding Arnie's shoulders being lower than Jim's, Arnie says in his bodybuilding encyclopedia that he has naturally sloping shoulders, that he falls in the meso-ectomorph category.
Gramps said on 29/Apr/06
I would LOVE to examine the footwear in Arnold's closet. I'm sure it would be an engineer's dream!
Frank2 said on 29/Apr/06
I found my reference to meeting Dick Riordan. It was over at Kevin Spacey's thread.
Frank2 says on 12/Apr/06
George Clooney, Spacey and former LA Mayor Dick Riordan: Click Here
Last week I was at an event honoring Riordan and he is about 5'8.5" maybe, just maybe 5'9" but he doesn't wear lifts.
Jake said on 29/Apr/06
If Arnold was wearing honest foot ware, he may have been as tall as 6'1" in his prime. I can't see anymore than that. If he wore lifts, he could have been as short as 5'11.5". Its all speculation. One thing is for sure, he is not even close to 6'2" now.
Elio said on 29/Apr/06
Frank2,
great posts of reasoning and common sense. Makes a refreshing change from the repetitive posts of people shouting out ' 5'11"! ' every five minutes.
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James,
I see you've made 6'1 3/8" Jim out to be a 'CONEHEAD' in your uploaded image. If that red line represents the top of his head then the guy has a 6 inch forehead. In contrast, you've put the red line on Schwarzenegger's head about half an inch above his hairline, stealing half an inch from the 'actual' top of his head.
Jason said on 28/Apr/06
I went back now and see you said you've met Pete Wilson, however that wasn't stated with your post with the pic of Arnold with Wilson - not your fault though as I see it wasn't posted where you originally meant it to be. I've scoured the posts here back to around the 13th April a couple of times now and cannot see where it is you said you met Dick Riordan, though.
Anyway...
So Pete Wilson is 5'10'' and Dick Riordan is just under. If that's the case Arnold easily appears the 6'1'' you say he is in both. Do you know who the taller man in the Dick Riordan pic is? I usually find myself in agreeance with you, but have a hard time with Arnold. I respect that you've met him a couple of times, but how can you be certain he wasn't wearing lifts? I mean, it's a known fact the man has a liking for big footware so to speak, and sometimes lifts can be disguised very well and it can be hard to tell.
I'm not pretending to know Arnold's height better than you, because you have met him and I have not, it's just hard to believe when there's all this evidence out there pointing towards Arnie being shorter. Plus, where did all this 5'10''-5'11'' stuff come from? A man legitimately 6'1'' isn't going to have all this kind of talk and rumour out there. Where there's this much smoke, it's very hard to see there not being a fire...
sf said on 28/Apr/06
Yea, a lot of this IS silly, as people just see what they want to see, always. I don't disagree that Jim looks taller in that picture, but he's got his shoulder over Arnie's and he's got more hair on the top of his head MUCH MORE HAIR. I just don't think the difference is as much as people seem to want to think. I don't know what Arnie's height is, but he sure as hell aint no 5'10"! Why do people just have to have somebody shorter or taller?
Frank2 said on 28/Apr/06
Seen them? Do you read my posts? I stated that I've met them both.
Jason said on 28/Apr/06
Have you seen Pete Wilson and Dick Riordan in person to confirm their heights though, Frank?
Maverick said on 28/Apr/06
his weight of 235 to 240lb gives a good indication of his peak height!....like someone posted early, to be cut up like Arnie in his peak he would have to be in the range of 69 or 70 inches! (5'9 to 5'10) if he was a genuine 6'1.5 or 6'2 he would have to be heavier, probably over 275lb!! at 235 - 240lb and at 6'2 he would a very slim build/frame....He was huge at his peak!...which indicates a much shorter height!
In that picture with the 5'9 Bon Von Jovi (some have him at 5'7) Arnie is the same height!!
At his peak 5'10 to 5'10.5 ...now around 5'9 barefoot! (6'2 is all Hollywood Hype!)
Frank2 said on 28/Apr/06
Has anyone looked at the shot of Arnold next to Pete Wilson or Dick Riordan that I posted? Come on people! Both men are above average height and just look how Arnold towers over them. This thread is starting to become arguments for the sake of arguing. I've met Arnold, stood right next to him and trust me, he's a big man! So he's not 6'2", but is now just 6'1"? So what? He's still bigger and taller than most people when he walkes into a room. This is just as silly as people claiming John Wayne was 6' and wore four inch lifts!
Viper652 said on 28/Apr/06
Plus, how do we know Jim is 5-10 to begin with? Somebody get Arnold to take off his shoes and stand next to a measured NFL guy. That would close the book big time on his height.
Jason said on 28/Apr/06
sf, Arnold still appears 6'0'' even if you raise Arnie's shoulders an inch or so, there'd still be a significant difference. Jim is also leaning towards Arnold for the pic.
piwo81 said on 28/Apr/06
Maybe Arnold has a shorter lookalike :)
Viper652 said on 28/Apr/06
There are so many 5-10, 5-11 sightings for Arnold that it does have some validity to them. Shoot, even a famous name like Roger Ebert says hes between 5-10 and 5-11.
Elio said on 27/Apr/06
Well... i'm all for hearing the stories were people claim he appeared under 6 foot. I don't think they're all liars, there are many factors in play on this, and I personally think that most sightings of under 6 foot are down to misjudgement or misinterpretation of the 'evidence'.
The problem is that the people who claim Arnold looked 6'1"+ tend not to argue and re-state their observations as much as the people who claim he looked 'shorter'.
Over the months there have been several people on this board who say he looked notably over 6 foot in person. But these posters make one post and move on. The people who claim he looked under 6 foot in person seem to post very regularly.
While it is true that Arnold does look about 6 foot next to Jim, remember that this was some 20 years after he was measured by Vince Basile (finally spelt his name right!), so the man may have shrunk. Arnold's clothing (and presumably footwear) was incredibly casual and tasteless at those early Arnold classics, so Jim may have had a footwear advantage.
Mike said on 27/Apr/06
Nice new pictures and posts guys. Granted we cant see the footwear on either jim or arnold, but i think it's clear now that Arnold was a legit 6'1 guy in the 1980's. After seeing that Jim pic I doubt he was 6'2, and now of days hes prolly right at 6 feet even. I still can't belive this 5'10 talk though, the 2 guys who have seen Arnold mutliple times, frank2 and glenn say hes def over 6 feet, i believe them and With Arnold and everyone else he takes pictures with u gotta take into consideration that they could just have regular sneakers, loafers, boots or lifts inside their boots, that makes a good difference, even when comparing Arnold to Bush theres one pic where Bush is taller by a inch, but many where Arnold is 1 to 3 inches taller.
sf said on 27/Apr/06
Jason - I disagree. Jim is clearly hoisting his shoulders over Arnie. Even so, take away the hair (notice how much more hair Jim has on top?) and the fact that Jim has put his shoulder over Arnie's, and they are about the same size.
Jason said on 27/Apr/06
Somehow I don't believe this Vince Basile guy. Who's Jim? Arnold appears ~6'0'' with him. Look at the difference in their shoulder heights, and it isn't because Arnold has a big head - Jim's is bigger!
Editor Rob
maybe slight McKellen technique?
as for Jim, he had posted his pic on the ironman forums that elio had linked to, and I asked him if I could put his pic on here. Jim says at that time he was doing some competing in bodybuilding and in the photo yeah 6ft - 6ft 1 he looks and himself mentioned his bone structure was larger than arnie's...
J-Dog said on 27/Apr/06
Frank2 I couldn't agree with you more and that's why you are one of the most respected guys on here. The b/s stories of the people on here who said they "met" Arnold and all towered over him are so pathetically transparent at some points it's almost laughable. Arnold looked a solid 6'2" whether you are watching Pumping Iron or his early to mid-career films. 6'1.5" is very believable and I think the e-mail sent to Rob from Vince is very, very good and far more realistic.
Anyone claiming Arnold at 5'10" is unfounded. That article labeled "Shortezenegger" is so completely ridiculous, obviously that man's wife cannot assess height if she thought he was 5'4", I mean how low can you really go with height?
Frank2 said on 27/Apr/06
I'm now positive that 95% of those claiming they've seen or met Arnold and feel he's relatively short are full of it. I've never read such BS! Look at the photo of Arnold next to 5'10" Pete Wilson. If Arnold's only 5'11" he'd have to wear three inch lifts and I've seen his shoes in person and they're normal.
Frank2 said on 27/Apr/06
Then I'm 5'8". That means Deidre Hall is 5'4", Jeff Kramer is 5'5", Tippi Hedren is 5'1", George Segal is 5'7", Sinatra was 5'4", Dean and Jerry and Bob Hope and Danny Thomas were all 5'7", Elvis was 5'8.5"........
Editor Rob said on 27/Apr/06
I have added a picture to this page of Arnold and Jim in 1988, who also met Lou in the past and thought him a solid 6ft 4, Arnie maybe near 6ft 1.
Also, here is an email from Vince regarding Arnold's Height:
"Hi Rob,
The facts are as follows. I never alter or exaggerate the truth or reality. I have this thing about height partly because I was sort of short while growing up. I am now 5' 9 1/2". Also, NABBA and other organizations had height classes and often guys would cheat and claim to be a different height so they could win a trophy in a class where they stood a better chance of winning one. I disapprove of those who claim to be taller than they really are! Well, We were in Mits Kowashima's Gym in Honolulu way back in January 1969. Arnold was there to pose at a contest for Mits and he loved being in Hawaii and getting heaps of girls and a tan for free. I had met Arnold in October 1968 at Gold's Gym and got to know him from hanging around there. He let me measure his arms one day in the locker room. Today that suggests other things but I can assure you I just wanted to know how big his arms were. It was after he had a workout and they measured 21 1/2 inches which impressed me. Well, in Honolulu the subject of height came up and guys were claiming this and that. Being the sort of guy who loves to challenge others I told Arnold he wasn't 6' 2" after he claimed being that tall. So he hopped on Mit's scale that had a height guage attached. I did the measurement myself and it read 6' 1 1/2". I told him he might be 6' 2" in the morning because one can shrink a bit during the day. Why I said this was because there was a famous case of a guy trying to get into the New York police force in the 1960's but was rejected each time because he was too short. He needed to be 5' 8" to qualify. Well, after several failures to pass the medical he came up with a novel solution. He got a couple of mates to carry him in one morning on an ironing board and surprizingly was just tall enough. Apparently we all are fractionally taller in the mornings. Who knows, maybe the doctor gave him the benefit of the doubt?
Arnold was in bare feet for the height measurement. In those days he was approachable. He didn't remember my name from before which didn't impress my girlfriend Roz who I later married. When we met Dave Draper he shook my hand and said, "Hi, Vince" and Roz liked him more than Arnold. However, most of us guys envied Arnold and were amazed at his size and how he worked any place he was in for his own advantage.
He came to my gym twice. Once in 1974 to put on a seminar and then he accompanied Franco when the latter put on a seminar after the Mr Olympia contest in 1980. Arnold came to my penthouse at Manly after he did another seminar at Tony's Gym that same night. There are some stories about that night if you read the Ironage stories I posted!
Feel free to post this email if it will help settle any discussions about Arnold's height. Arnold might be a lot of things and he did like tricking people. I found him to be quite straightforward and in that sense he lived up to that old ideal of being a he-man! Of course, I told him face to face in 1974 that he would never succeed as an actor! He told me he liked people saying stuff like that because it made him try harder!
Regards,
Vince Basile"
Cartem77 said on 26/Apr/06
I was on the movie set of JINGLE ALL THE WAY with Arnold and Sinbad in high school 1994/95. The movie was filmed in Minnesota right by De La Salle High School. I am 6'2" I walked right next to Arnold and he only came up just past my shoulders. His cigar was taller than him. He is no where near 6'2". He is 5'11" at best. Where are you guys getting he was 6'2" or better. That is BS!! In the picture shown above, you can't even see what kind of shoes/boots he's wearing. Don't judge based on that picture. Trust me I know he's under 6'0".
Elio said on 26/Apr/06
Viper,
Actually, Arnold was Measured at 6'1.5" in the late 60s by Vince Basil.
Vince says:
'Yes, I measured Arnold in Jan 1969 on the scale in Mit's Gym in Hawaii. He said he was 6-2, the height guage said 6-1/2. It was in the evening so he could possibly have been 6-2 in the morning. '
If you decide to join up to the IronAge Forums.... then head over to:
Click Hereto see for yourself.
Editor Rob ... why not add Vince Basile's testimony to the top of this page, given that it keeps being used ( usually by me, sometimes by others ) as an argument on this board. It's definately got more weight to it than a democratic strategist's opinion.
Editor Rob
I'm going to add Jim's picture to the top aswell ;-)
the guy at the top of the thread...I wanted to confirm what the Aussie bodybuilder said, sure I will add this aswell...because that of course is one way of confirming a peak height so to speak...
Jason said on 26/Apr/06
I'm not sure that is a better photo, cantstop. Arnold's head doesn't look any longer than Declan's.
OnCapeCod said on 26/Apr/06
I was on the puddle jumper with Arnold late 80's into early 90's. My cousin is Jody Poirier one of the greatest all natural women bodybuilders.....Arnold is 5'11" that's the truth.....with 3" lifts he's 6'2". Hype like this works because people WANT TO BELIEVE IN SUPERSTARS!
Viper652 said on 26/Apr/06
I think Arnold was 5-11.5 in his prime, and never even hit 6-0. He was always shorter then 6-1 Reg Park, and was never measured above 5-11.5 anyway. I mean, look how much shorter he looks in regular sneakers next to that 6-3.5 bodybuilder as well. He looks 5-11.5 there as well. He also looks 5-11 in the Andre and Wilt picture. The reason why he can look tall in some pictures is because of well-healed shoes and lifts. I think hes shruk 1 inch since his prime height of 5-11.5 to 5-10.5 now. That seems pretty plausible to me.
Gramps said on 26/Apr/06
I agree with Jason that Arnold looks a good 2" shorter than Declan Joyce. Also, in Frank2's photo "Those are not lifts on Arnold," close inspection leads me to believe those are not standard issue shoes he's wearing. The soles look unusually thick and could easily be built up inside. I happen to be a huge Arnold fan, but that's not enough to convince me he's over six feet today, nor over 6'1" in his prime.
Jason said on 25/Apr/06
Arnold looks 5'11''-6'0'' in that photo with Declan Joyce. Joyce has just got his head down - look at the difference in their shoulder levels.
I don't believe Arnold is as short as 5'10'', but I find 6'1'' a bit much to say the least. Normally I don't even entertain the thought of Arnold being over the 6'0'' mark today, but it's intriguing you insist he's 6'1'', Frank.
Haha, clueless people... said on 25/Apr/06
This man is 5'10" at best. Trust me. Read this article NOWWW!!!! While I think some of the heights given to him (5'4-5'5) are a bit exaggerated I think it is clear that Arnie is WAYYY shorter than everyone thinks he is.
Click Here"Shortzenegger's Tall Tales" lol
I also saw PARADE magazine, a few years ago someone wrote in saying that his wife claimed Arnold was only 5'8". PARADE wrote back saying that he was closer to 5'10 after meeting him several times.
The Horse of FUNK said on 25/Apr/06
Kinda shocked to see y'all list Arnie at 6' and not even give 'em 6'2 for his peak height. He looked like a strong 6'2 back in the 80's, like a possible 6'2.5".
Dex said on 25/Apr/06
On Cape Cod, so you have met Arnold on more than one occasion and you are positive he is under 6`0 or 5`11. Can I ask when you met him? 1970`s, 80`s or 90`s. 00`s? This guy was tall 6`1.5" or so in his prime!
OnCapeCod said on 24/Apr/06
There is never a directly discernable comparison shot in that ENTIRE movie....and as far as his height I am 5'11" @ 227lbs. Arnold has been on the same puddle jumper as me a few times going to the Vineyard.....we were/are eye to eye. He's never been close to 6'2" that's just hype s***e!!!!
Elio said on 24/Apr/06
OnCapeCod,
The only reason that (for most of the film) they're not shown next to each other is because Arnold was training in LA and Ferrigno in New York.
However, they are shown together (barefoot and on a flat stage) for a large portion of the competition at the end of the movie.
Again, I ask how you can be so sure he wears lift shoes. Did you take them off his feet? Did he admit to them... was his foot almost falling out of them (like Stallone's in the basketball photo) ?
Glenn said on 23/Apr/06
You tell em Frank.Arnold is 6-1,6-2 in his prime.
OnCapeCod said on 23/Apr/06
He's 5'11" he wears lift shoes......he was exactly my height and really not a huge person. Maria Shriver looks completely whacked out with cosmetic surgery in person...her face is almost comically bizarre. They had good reason never to show Arnold and Lou next to each other in the movie "Pumping Iron"...he would have been DWARFED!
Height Tracker said on 23/Apr/06
How are you so sure about that Viper? Have you met him?
Viper652 said on 23/Apr/06
But these days Arnold is around 5-10.5 barefoot.
Elio said on 23/Apr/06
Is there any evidence to prove this man has ever worn or been linked with elevator shoes other than unfounded speculation? The guy wore flat shoes and/or went barefoot a lot of the time in his youth.... he might have not necessarily bothered wearing elevators just because he became famous. What if he's wearing one inch shoes and is comfortable with his height?
Frank2 said on 22/Apr/06
No way on Earth is Arnold 5'11". I'm 5'11" and when I met him he was a good two inches taller. And he was wearing what looked like regular shoes. I'd say he's roughly 6'1". He could have been 6'2" when he was younger.
Joe said on 22/Apr/06
I asked an old bodybuilder who had met arnold in the 70's, how tall Arnie is, he said that they were in the shower barefeet, and he stood besides another bodybuilder who is 190cm and he said that Arnold was a bit shorter, but not much, so I think he really was 6 ft 2 when younger, nowadays maybe 6 ft even?
Gotxo said on 21/Apr/06
Harvey:
I think he's 6ft, prolly a lil more when young. Maybe you think he's only 5'11" because his height is not as big as expected, or you're indeed big.
He has look taller than five eleven many times, wich is my height, i've a photo beside an H2 as Arnold's HYDRO one and he doesn't looks much more taller than me compared to the same car though.
6ft said on 18/Apr/06
thats a very nice pic that cobra has of the rock and arnie but there still has to be bout 3" betwwen them because look at their waistes and where there arms end the rock is lowering his head as well which he does in evry pic! hes onto us! ;)
Cobra said on 16/Apr/06
The Rock is slouching very much in the first + Britneys footwear.
And in the one of the Rundown: they are in the jungle. ;)
In Running Man Arnie isn`t 3-4 inches shorter than kotto. Don`t judge of the first look in the prison, I think they exagerated Kottos height, because in the hall where the guy with the chain saw appear, they are standing next to each other and you can also see the ground, and there is not that much difference between them.
Gramps said on 16/Apr/06
Oops! The Rock looking not too tall next to the 5'4.5" Britney Spears:
Click Here
Gramps said on 16/Apr/06
Thank you, Cobra. Looks like the hunched over Rock has only a couple inches on Arnold. But wait...check out the Rock next to the 5'11.25" Sean William Scott:
Click HereAs I said, Arnie is just a tad under six feet today.
Gramps said on 16/Apr/06
Just watched "The Running Man" from 1987. Arnold looked about 3-4" shorter than the 6'3" Yaphet Kotto.
Editor Rob
I think it is possible, as a couple mentioned Kotto could have been 6ft 4...
Cobra said on 15/Apr/06
Click Herein FACT ;) 6ft1, on the pic he looks more like 6ft2
Elio said on 15/Apr/06
You guys make me laugh when you use words like 'definately'. Howabout we all end our posts with 'FACT!!' instead?
Cobra said on 15/Apr/06
Someone posted that (can this person please post again) that Arnold was measured in 1967.
"Arnold who claimed to be 6ft2 was measured with 6ft1,5 that evening"
I think that this is the truth, we all know that you are shorter in the evening, so 6ft2 morning 6ft1,5 evening.
Now 6ft1 morning 6ft0,5 evening.
drake said on 15/Apr/06
Hmmm... I saw Mr. Schwarzenegger in the 70's and he looked probably 6 foot to 6 foot and 1/2 inch barefoot then. Though I never SAW him barefoot. In shoes he looked 6'1". I was 6'3 1/2" tall then & he looked 3 - 3 1/2 less than me. I always wear shoes with 1 - 1.25" heels. He didn't look 6'2" even then. Don't know HOW TALL he is now, but I lost 1/2 inch (almost). I'm only 3 years older than Arnold.
Gramps said on 15/Apr/06
Arnold was never 6'2", or even 6'1". That is clear from the numerous vintage pictures below where 6'1" Reg Park is always about one inch taller. Arnold is definitely a tad under six feet today.
blondie said on 14/Apr/06
He's definitely 6'2" (188cm)
Brett said on 14/Apr/06
Firstly Arnies wearing shoes, which are no doubt big, and Coleman is barefooted, another thing, when Coleman was here, he appeared on the footy show, next to a couple of players who are only 5'9-5'10"ish and he was no way taller then them. So if you consider Arnie would be in like 2inch plus heels, take off those, and hed barely be an inch or so taller then Coleman. This man Im telling you is not even 6'0" tall these days, as Ive said my friend who met him recently said that he was barely 5'10"-5'11" tall. It is not possible to attain his bodybuilding height, and no doubt he probably was 6'0" or so back in the day, but I think 6'2" was just a myth.
TheMan said on 13/Apr/06
I think Arnold should go back to 6,1 atleast why is it he's constantently seen as taller than those in the pictures my guess is that he's atleast 6,1. I doubt 6,2 but 6,1 would still seem right. Maybe about 185cm
mike said on 13/Apr/06
rob you should give him his half inch back, or you can put him at 6'9.5 for being one of the best action stars/body builders ever, i still don't see why some people have him at 5'10
Fasulo said on 13/Apr/06
Arnold has magic shoes on
Editor Rob
you know, I keep wanting to give arnold back 1/2 inch for his currentish 2005-2006 height...I don't know, maybe when nobodies looking...nobody will notice 1/2 inch here will they ;-)
Dex said on 13/Apr/06
I have met Ronnie Coleman and he is no way 5`11 but more like 5`9 1/2 to 5`10 1/2 but roughly 5`10. In the link below, Arnold is 3 or 4 inches taller, 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 is due to shoes. Either way you look at Arnold is at least 6`0 and probably over 6`1 although not 6`2.
Cobra said on 13/Apr/06
I think Arnold would be 2 or 2,5 inches taller than Ronnie without his shoes, also 6ft0,5 or 6ft1.
funkmonk said on 13/Apr/06
Arnold is much taller than 5'11" bodybuilder Ron Coleman
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Cobra said on 10/Apr/06
Guys? Why you compare Arnold to Matty and Matty to lou, when you can see Arnold and Lou next to each other barefeet on the stage??
BTW Arnold doesn`t look more than 3 inches shorter.
piwo81 said on 10/Apr/06
I also remeber a shot on TV were Arnlod appeared with polish ex president Aleksander Kwa
piwo81 said on 10/Apr/06
I've found this: "While Arnold Schwarzenegger's height was always believed to be 6 feet, 2 inches (1.88 m), a July 2002 article in US Weekly magazine speculated that Schwarzenegger was actually closer to 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m). During his campaign for governorship it was noted that Schwarzenegger was considerably shorter than many expected, with others putting his height at around 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m), exactly as reported in US Weekly. His spokespeople now give his height as 6 ft even (1.83 m). His competition height may have been closer to 6'2", as humans lose a small amount of height with age."
the rest of the article is at
Click Here
Elio said on 10/Apr/06
Phil,
You said:
"Arnold is clearly shorter than Ferrigno's dad by several inches...and Ferrigno's father is a good 3 inches shorter than Lou"
Several is NOT the same as saying 'a few'. As I already said, I consider several to mean 5 - 8.
In future, try reading posts (including your own), before you start making derogatory comments about people.
phil said on 9/Apr/06
Oh boy! I guess we have some low IQs on this board (Elio...). Ferrigno's father is a few inches taller (that's 2-3 inches for you low IQ guys) than Arnold and Lou is 3 inches taller than his dad. That puts Arnold in the 5'11" to 6' range.
Meathead320 said on 9/Apr/06
I think phil is right, it is hard to forget that scene. Now keep in mind that Lou is very tall himself. Anywhere from 6'3" shortest to 6'5" tops. Even on the short end Lou was still a tall man back then, and still is today. Lou was taller than his father by at least 2", and his father was taller than Arnold by the same. Still this does not help peg an exact height for Arnie.
He could be anwhere from 5'10" to 6'1", depends on how tall Lou really is. I just say Arnold is "about 6 foot".
Elio said on 9/Apr/06
Phil,
most of us have seen or own that movie. Arnold is NOT 'several' inches shorter than Ferrigno's dad. Lou is not 3 inches taller than his old man either. If you conisder the definition of several to be 5 - 8, then you're basically saying that Arnold is 8 - 11 inches shorter than Ferrigno.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have trouble accepting anything you say in future, given your blatent exaggerations.
frank p said on 7/Apr/06
I didn't think people actually shrink with age until a week ago. I used to do heavy squats for years, and in my younger days compete in powerlifting. I've had disc surgery on my lower lumbar spine and my cervical(neck). Yet last Sept. I measured 5"10 in my stocking feet. Maybe when I was younger I was taller but I didn't think so.
Now, I went to a wake last week where I saw people that I haven't seen since my early 20's. I'm 46 years old. I wear regular dress shoes, probably an inch at the most raise. Well, EVERYONE seemed shorter than I remember them! Either my same height or shorter. If there were any doubts to the shrink with age theory? That just removed them for me.
phil said on 7/Apr/06
Just watched Pumping Iron. There's a scene where he has breakfast with Lou Ferrigno and Ferrigno's father. They all get up at the end of the breakfast and Arnold is a good half a foot shorter than Lou and quite a bit shorter than Lou's father, who is at least 3 inches shorter than Lou. He can't be more than 6' tall in 1975 and must be 5'11" today. Near then end of Pumping Iron, you get a full body long shot of Arnold and Lou posing and Arnold is barely at Ferrigno's nose level.
Elio said on 7/Apr/06
Drake,
I'm starting to think that your estimates of just over 6 foot are spot on. I recently saw a pic on a forum from 1988 where Arnold stood around an inch shorter next to a guy who says he's 6'1.4" . Perhaps the 41 year old arnold had lost a slight bit of height from heavy squatting at this point in his life... but even so I'm beginning to see that this man may have never been over 6'1".
5'11" is still daft though. :)
drake said on 7/Apr/06
To be clear, he looked 6'1" IN SHOES (boots, whatever he had on) then, so I GUESSED 6'0 or 0.5" barefoot. That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
Gramps said on 7/Apr/06
Sorry, Dex, but Arnold is not the huge guy you imagine him to be. The many early bodybuilding photos of the barefoot Arnold linked here demonstrate clearly that he was never 6'1", but closer to 6'0"-6'0.5". Recent photos put him just a bit under 6 feet.
Leung said on 7/Apr/06
Fasulo, you like to have your fantasy of Arnie being only 180cm, that's fine, whatever rocks your boat. Your idea's of a mini Terminator, diminutive Conan, are cute concepts, unfortunately most of us aren't interested, were quite happy to accept Arnie just the way he is, which is clearly taller than 6'
Jason said on 7/Apr/06
Dex, I think you need to use YOUR head. I said he has extremely long legs in proportion to his height, not that he has extremely long legs.
Dex said on 6/Apr/06
Jason, use your head, whats more likely that Arnold has extremely (abnormal) long legs or he is indeed tall?
Jason said on 6/Apr/06
Arnold has extremely long legs in proportion to the rest of his body which can make him appear taller.
Dex said on 6/Apr/06
Fasulo, watch "THE COMEBACK" it can be purchased over the internet and then tell me Arnold is only 5`11. He was so tall he looked awkward and lanky almost like a short basketball player. Check it out!
Fasulo said on 6/Apr/06
Dear boys you should remember that Arnold wears lift shoes in every occasions.Probably he has only magic shoes!!!infact it would be astonishing for all see Terminator,Conan,Governor of California,future president...a simple 180 cm...We though it was huge and he wants to appear HUGE!Discoman you're right
Dex said on 6/Apr/06
For all of you who think Arnold is below 6 feet view "THE COMEBACK" and your doubhts will be put to rest. Arnold towers over everybody and his legs and arms go on forever. I think when Arnold first became famous as a teenager he was probably just under 6 feet and he may now as an older man be once again under 6 feet. However, during the time of the 1980 Olympia or early thirties, Arnold was well over 6 feet. Check it out and see what I am talking about!
dmeyer said on 6/Apr/06
a friend of mine who is a weak 6 footer has a pic with arnie and arnie looks 2 to 3 inches taller than him this pics was taken in 2005
Glenn said on 5/Apr/06
Though I havnt seen him since 1992,now that I remember he did walk like he had balloons in his shoes.
Dex said on 5/Apr/06
I strongly recommend anyone interested in the controversial 1980 Olympia to purchase "The Comeback". I have heard much talk about the judging being rigged and I believe this can happen but I do not believe it did. Arnold was ripped and defined although not nearly as massive as 1974 or 75. He also easily beat the competition. It`s possible that Mike Mentzer got short changed with his fourth or fifth place finish but he was nowhere near "The Greatest" as I did see one line up of the two men together. He is also quite "tall" in this film easily over 6 feet and probably close to 6` 2"! Arnold`s legs in this movie are really weak but his calves and upper body combined with how how he twists as he poses hides this fact from the audience and probably the judges.
Leung said on 4/Apr/06
Arnold was considered very lucky to have won the '80 Olympia, he looked soft and lacked the definition that he had previously. On that day Mike Mentzer was easily the best of the competition. The judges have got it wrong on a few occassions over the years. In regards to Arnold's height, I have always accepted him as 6'2". Even though many will argue that he has lost height due to old age, he is still clearly at least 6'1"
MaxB said on 4/Apr/06
Yes, Arnie walks funny and in many of his movies is obvious that he is wearing lifts. Also notice in The Terminator where he was barefoot, he was not simultaniously in the same scene with those three guys (Bill Paxton was one of them) - they were relatively tall (especially that guy that was a bad guy in Stallone's Cobra) and in one short shot barefoot Arnie may have looked shorter than Paxton in Boots...
But if Columbu is really 5'5, then Arnie might have been about 6'1 in his prime time (but notice that Arnie is a bit closer to the camera that could give him an extra inch or two). See this photo:
Click Here
Dex said on 4/Apr/06
I watched "The Comeback" last night which is about Arnold and the 1980 Olympia. As far as I am concerned Arnold easily won the competition fair and square. Unfortunately, Mike Mentzer was not in the movie probably because he did not grant permission so I can form no opinion on his physique unfortunately. However, I have to say that Arnold was definately "tall" in this movie and at least 6`1" probably 6`1 1/2". I think Arnold actually grew taller between 1975 and 1980, is that possible, to grow an inch or more in your late twenties and early thirties?
Gramps said on 4/Apr/06
Yes Frank, 6'0" when competing, but 5'11" or so now.
Frank P said on 3/Apr/06
I think the link photo from Disco man below should pretty much end the debate. Though I don't know how tall Draper is, Arnold is clearly NOT over 6"0. I think 6"0 is reasonable for him.
C.Barrow said on 3/Apr/06
I agree with you pals, I saw Pumping Iron 2 and Mr.Arnold is the tallest...D'you remember in the Guiness Book they said he's 6'1" during his Mr Olympia's reign.
Gramps said on 2/Apr/06
About 2/3 of the web references I've seen list Graham at 6'3" and 1/3 at 6'4".
me said on 2/Apr/06
well when arnold was bodybuilding he was in the tall class fpr mr.olympia (as stated in the education of a bodybuilder book) which would make him at a minimum 6'
drake said on 2/Apr/06
Anonymous: How tall was Superstar Billy Graham? I see a few inches between him and Arnold? I know I've seen his height listed somewhere?
Anonymous said on 1/Apr/06
I'm not convinced he was ever 6' + for the following reasons:
Click HereClick Here
Gramps said on 1/Apr/06
Joe: when you were 23 and saw Arnold (the three-time Mr. Olympia) in 1973, I believe you were a bit star-struck. Your awe overshadowed your objectivity, since Arnold was never 6'1", let alone 6'2".
drake said on 1/Apr/06
OK, Ken Waller was measured at 5'11.25" when he competed in the AAU as an ameteur. I'm 6'3 1/2" and I recall Ken being about 4 inches shorter than me. I never saw Ferrigno, but had him described as a little bit taller than me, so 6'4" sounds about right. Only saw Arnold briefly and he looked 6'1" or so in boots. Don't recall about the heels, etc. But Mr. Waller's height would have been barefoot height. I asked my brother (who met Waller at least twice) and he said Waller was about 5'11 1/2" or so, just under 6 feet. My brother is 6'1" tall. I think Ronnie Coleman was 5'10" tall. So, is their a photo of Mr. Schwarzenegger with Mr. Waller or Mr. Coleman. BTW: most natural body-builders think Joe Weider is a blight and assures body-building will never be an Olympic sport. Shame too! Used to be like Greek statues, now just look like juiced anatomy charts. :-( JMHO about "professional" bodybuilding. I think it's more like pro wrestling now. Mike Mentzer was robbed, again - JMHO.
sf said on 1/Apr/06
Okay - I have new info on our pal, Stallone, and a few other hotly contested celebs. Some of you may know that I have a friend at the gym that fought Chuck Norris 3 times in the 70's. I referenced this once, when I referred to Norris' height. (My friend is a 7th degree blackbelt) Well, again, tonight, I thought about something else when I was talking to him. This guy was not only a competitive martial artist, but also a competitive body builder in the late 60's and 70's. His name is Gil Hanson, he's 73, a retired cop, and still teaches martial arts to police academy students. Trust me, this is one 73 year old man you don't want to mess with. He can still bench 350! Tough as nails. I remembered tonight to ask him about some of the body builders he's met. Okay, this comes from a guy who met, knew and competed next to these guys, BAREFOOT. Gil is 6'0", maybe a little under now but not by much. Gil, without hesitation, said Ferrigno was 6'4". Again, he knew Ferrigno in the 70's. He also knew Arnie a little. Again, without hesitation, he said Arnie was "6'2", maybe bigger. He's a pretty big guy." Gil is a trained police officer, trained to notice things, and again, stood beside these guys at competitions BAREFOOT, or in normal shoes. They weren't wearing lifts when competing! Here's the best part! I didn't even ask him, and he said he had met Stallone. Gil finished 3rd in the Mr USA (natural, I think) in 1978, he said. Stallone personally presented him with his trophy! Now, remember, this was the 70's, before any of these guys were such big deals. Yes, Stallone was on his way, but had only just had big success with Rocky. Gil, again without hesitation, said Stallone was about 5'8". Remember, Stallone stood right next to Gil and handed him his trophy. I laughed when he told me, and told him about this web site where everybody is contesting these guys heights.
This closes the case for me. Stallone is no taller than 5'8". Arnie was 6'2". and Ferrigno was 6'4".
sf said on 1/Apr/06
Okay - here's the real question - what are Loren Franc and Seymour Koenig doing in that group photo from anonymous? My 13 year old nephew's built better!
Joe Marzano said on 31/Mar/06
Okay, let's set the record straight once and for all to end the confusion about Arnold's height. In 1974 I trained at Gold's Gym in Venice California during the summer. At the time I was 23 years old and exactly 6'2" inches tall. I still remember the first time I saw him. He was incredible. He was as wide as a doorway and he was 6'2" at that time because we were once standing near each other and we were eye to eye as far as height is concerned. One thing though, Arnold's posture wasn't the greatest at all times. Look at him pumping up before the 1975 Olympia. His back is curved which detracts from his height. When he stands up straight the difference in height is dramatic. As far as his height today, well we all shrink due to degeneration of the invertabral discs. Combine that with squatting 50 tons a day and anyone would lose some height. But let me assure everyone, In 1975 Schwarzenegger was every in 6'2" tall (Standing Straight).
Dex said on 31/Mar/06
I have never met Arnold Schwarznegger but I have met Ronnie Coleman in January 2006. Ronnie is listed at 5`11 but I stood right beside him and towered over him at 6 feet. I put Ronnie Coleman as low as 5'9 1/2 and as tall as 5'10 1/2. If anyone has any pictures of Arnold and Ronnie together then I feel I could make an informed opinion on Arnold`s height!
Gramps said on 31/Mar/06
Arnold was never 6'1". In his prime he was between 6'0" and 6'0.5". He's under 6 feet today (without his "magic shoes").
Dex said on 31/Mar/06
I have never met Arnold but I have met Ronnie Coleman in January 2006. I stood right beside him and I am 6 feet or very close (5 11 3/4). Ronnie claimed to be 5`11 but he is definatley not that tall. I would say 5 9 1/2 minimum and 5 10 1/2 maximum. If anyone has any pictures with Ronnie and Arnold together we would be able to determine how tall Arnold is today?
Parker said on 31/Mar/06
From the photograph below with Arnold lined up with fellow weightlifters, The short guy Franco Columbo is listed at 5'5 on the net - that would concur with Arnold at 6'1
drake said on 31/Mar/06
Ken Waller? I know I saw that guy pose a few times. My memory of his amateur body-building days was that he could compete in either the medium OR the tall class. That would put him a bit under 6 foot. Under 5'10" was medium height class. 6 foot and over was tall class. So 5'10" to say 5'11.5" was up to the competetor. I NEVER liked that loophole, because a guy could "duck" a tough competetor by simply choosing the other height class! UNLESS the competition had the same choice. They closed that loophole in the 80's because of that very problem. I know that doesn't help a lot. But it does mean that Ken Waller fell in the 5'10" to 5'11.5" category. Let me see what I can find.
PS: Weider exaggerates about EVERYTHING! :-) According to Joe, HE invented weight-lifting! What an ego!!! :-)
Fasulo said on 30/Mar/06
Yes,that photo is a fake
Disco Man said on 30/Mar/06
Anonymous,
Thanks for drawing the lines, clearly Waller is shorter than Arnold so I stand corrected. Elio you bring up some good points. I have to investigate Waller's height, his height was always stated at a straight 6.0" however that may be incorrect (IFBB misinfo) he may be shorter or it may be correct and Arnold was indeed 6'1". Definitely worthy of an investigation, I'll check out the movie 'Stay Hungry' were Arnold is on stage next to Waller flexing both men are standing up straight to see if Arnold is taller. I try to get some screen captures.
Gramps,
Thanks for the praise. I have seen many pictures of Arnold and Reg together and Reg clearly is taller when both men are standing next to each other. Some claimed Reg was 6'2" others claim he was 6'1.5". However Reg has always claimed he was 6'1" and he said in an interview a few years ago that he was measured by Ray Beck back in 1956 at 6'1". I believe Arnold was 6'0" or 6'0.5" barefoot when he competed back in the 1960s and 1970s. And I have seen pictures of Arnold today were he looks less than 6'0" tall and to be fair there are those pictures were he looks over 6'0" (however he was wearing shoes). I wish Arnold would guest pose (be barefoot) at his Arnold Classic or the Mr. Olympia contest and stand next to the 5'11" Ronnie Coleman, this would give us a measuring stick for his current height and either prove or rule out those elevator shoes.
I agree with you Arnold had better bicep development than Oliva, as you mentioned Oliva's upper arm size came from those mamoth triceps. 2/3s of an average person's upper arm is the triceps. That's why a lot of body builders who had good biceps but even better developed triceps still had enormous arms. Arnold and Larry Scott probably had some of the best bicep development in their day.
Gramps said on 30/Mar/06
You know, in looking at that group photo more and more, I find it suspect. I think it may be a collage, not a single photo. In all other photos of Arnold and Draper, they are the same height. But here, Arnold looks 2+ inches taller, which is pure fantasy.
Anonymous said on 30/Mar/06
Hi Disco Man. I`ve posted the WB Records photo last week and now you`re wrong affirming that Arnold was the same height as Ken Waller in that photo. Well as you said Waller was an honest 6'0'' then you might start considering Arnold a strong 6'1'' also. Just check the following link:
Click HereI just drew a straight red line through Arnold and the others following their heads and eye levels. Guess who`s taller?
See ya
Gramps said on 30/Mar/06
Disco Man - - GREAT job in presenting the pics of Arnie with Reg Park that CLEARLY show Arnold to have been at least one inch shorter in his prime than the 6'1" Park. Arnold is definitely under 6 feet today; as I have mentioned here before, my colleague had his picture taken with the future governor during his election campaign, and Arnold was definitely under 6 feet - - perhaps 5'11.5".
As for Sergio Oliva, it looks to me like most of his size was in the triceps not the biceps. I checked other Internet photos of Oliva that seemed to show the same proportions. As for pure biceps development, I think Arnold was definitely superior to Oliva. My opinion, of course.
Jason said on 29/Mar/06
That is true, Disco Man. Sergio himself also said in an interview that his arms were never bigger than 20.5'' and Weider just exaggerated their dimensions. And Sergio edged Arnold out in arm size.
Disco Man said on 28/Mar/06
Steve Rose,
The Arnold 22" upper arms is also a myth. Check out the below quote from Arthur Jones who measured the Arms (biceps) of many bodybuilders in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s:
'To begin with, most of the claimed measurements of top bodybuilders are simply untrue. The largest muscular arm that I ever measured -- or saw -- was Sergio Oliva
Disco Man said on 28/Mar/06
Elio,
As I said before compare picture after picture of Arnold and Reg, Reg is taller in most by at least an inch when both men stand up straight. Using the law of the averages that puts Reg taller:
Here's some more where Reg is taller:
Click HereClick HereClick HereClick HereClick HereAs for the beach picture, look at the two man's knees they are the same as in the above picture (so Arnold's not standing in a hole both men are evenly planted on the ground and Reg is taller:
Click HereHere's another beach shot where both men's knee caps are at the same level again, and Reg is taller again:
Click HereAlso here's one with Arnold in the pool with Reg (both men are barefoot and the pool has a flat concrete bottom), guess what? - Reg is taller:
Click HereAs for this picture which someone posted last week, notice how Arnold is the same height as Ken Waller who is on the far right, Ken Waller was an honest 6'0":
Click Here
Jason said on 28/Mar/06
Well, it's pretty well known Arnold likes wearing ''big'' shoes...
Gotxo, that's a very good idea. There's a big yearly auto expo show here in Perth, Australia where I live this coming month and I think I'll go. They might have a hummer H2 there (I've been inside a hummer at one of them before). If not there, then I'll find one somewhere else sooner or later. :)
If anyone here lives in or goes to the Los Angeles area, I believe Arnold still tries to go to his cigar nights at the restaurant he founded - Schatzi's - on the first Monday of each month and dines there at other times.
Frank2 said on 28/Mar/06
Kevin Kline is at least 6'1" possibly 6'2".
Gotxo said on 28/Mar/06
Gonzalo:
Nothing against the king, although i'm republican lol.
But check his bio, he was measured @ amry at 186cm, he's an oldie but i'm convinced he haven't shrunk worth nothing thing. His son was measured 197cm @ the army. Nevertheless, what was wearing Arnold (Boots again?)
Frank2:
I find respectable your ideas, but i don't agree with this one i give him a little over 6' at most. BTW if Bill Richardson is a about 5'11.5" i only see an inch of difference between them both and we can't see the footwear, it's the one that doesn't match with boots, but hig heeled footwear is still a possibility there.
Gonzalo said on 28/Mar/06
I said it before: Arnold was as tall as the King of Spain, that would make Arnold 6`1 minimum. And in the film Dave he seems to be as tall as Kevin Kline, who is no less than 6`1. Arnold is tall, or maybe he wears lifts...
to wear lifts or not to wear lifts, that`s the question....
dmeyer said on 28/Mar/06
i agree with frank 2 ithink arnie was 6'2" and 6'1" now my father is the same age and didnt even loose 1 inch
Steve Rose said on 28/Mar/06
I was in to bodybuilding as a teenager and read lots of Schwarzenegger stuff.
If you read any of his books he always says he is 6ft 2inches.
The Guinness book of records did list him as the most successful bodybuilder of all time. Mr Universe 7 times and Mr Olympia 5 times quoting his height as 6ft 1inches (And they do tend to get their facts right).
What is not disputed though is he did have a 57 inch chest, with 22.25 inch arms in his heyday.
Frank2 said on 27/Mar/06
Here's Arnold with New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson:
Click HereRichardson is close to six feet.
Here's another of Richardson with Arnold:
Click HereRicharson looks about an inch shorter than Arnie.
Richardson with his staff:
Click HereAs you can see, he's a big man.
For the last time, Arnold is well over six feet. I've met him and unless he has the best lifts in the biz he's 6'2" or very close to it. I'm 5'11" and I had to look up at him. And no, I wasn't standing in a hole.
Gotxo said on 27/Mar/06
Rob: Sorry for making my questions in a difficutl way, yours is better.
I'm 5'11" i was taken a full body pic of myself near a hummer H2, y asked you to compare it against an Arnold full body pic @ same distance of the same car & in your eyes he's 6'.
Jason: If my memmory is good you said you're 189cm (a bit over Arnold supposed height) why don't you get a photo beside a Hummer H2 and sent it here as mean of comparing a solid 6'2" to it. Then we could know to who of the 2 is Arnold in reality closer in heigt.
Alex said on 27/Mar/06
Jason, I think Arnold was probably 6'0 in his prime. Well you say he was measured at 5'11.5 but he could have easily grown 1/2 inch more. But today he is about 5'11 and nothing more than that.
theheightguru said on 27/Mar/06
Arnold says he was 6'1"?!! I don't think so. Have a look at this:
Click Here
Anonymous said on 27/Mar/06
Rob:
Yeah, i was conscious that the angle of the photo is not the same, i asked to a job mate to take it in a hurry, and is a bit difficult to explain to a no-poster-here (celebheightaholic?) that you want to be portrayed as Arnold.
I coincide with your opinion 100%, the camera is at a higher point in mine giving me between 1"-4cm at most. The thing is that my heels are 3cm there, the Hydro H2 pic i sent you has so high quality that allows to make out a 2" heel on Arnie's boots. A near 6' is very possible, nohting much more for him.
Gonzalo said on 27/Mar/06
I saw a picture of Arnold next to Roger Moore years ago and Moore was taller. I couldn`t see the ground. I also remember a pic of Arnold next to King Juan Carlos I and they were very similar in height. King Juan Carlos was near 6`2 in his prime and now he is 70 he looks 6`1. I saw him in 1993 in Madrid and he was 1`85-86 cm. Queen Sofia was also very tall. She was my height (5`9).
Gramps said on 27/Mar/06
Reg Park states his height was 6'1" and in every photo of Reg and Arnold, Reg is the taller man. Methinks Arnold was 6'0.5" in his prime and an inch shorter today.
Jason said on 26/Mar/06
Alex, I believe Brigitte was actually measured for the record (she got the record for Red Sonja) - I don't know when, though. Even if she was measured years after the movie - she's only 41 years old even today - so it's doubtful she would have shrunk any. Check the movie out, Arnold appeared the exact same height as her. He also looked no taller than the 5'11'' range against Wilt Chamberlain in Conan the Destroyer.
Fasulo said on 26/Mar/06
I would say 183 in his prime,now only 180 with lifts every time
Anonymous said on 26/Mar/06
Disco man:
Yes, those pics shows an Arni slightly shorter by 1cm or two, i think the pic of the beach is not as good as the other as the ground might be uneven or the people's disposition in it. I think Arnold was at best 184cm and at worst a shade over 5'11.
Elio said on 24/Mar/06
Disco Man,
the first pic of Reg and Arnold is particularly unfair, as the angle is incredibly slanted. Look a the ridiculous slope of the step behind them all.
Besides, Arnold looks practically 2 inches taller than Dave Draper in the WB records photo that Anonymous posted the link to. I'd say that usually Arnold looks about 1 inch taller than Draper. Whether it's 1 or 2 inches, if you say that Reg is taller than Arnold in that first picture then you must say that Draper is the same height as Reg or even half an inch taller.
In the second picture they're in the sea... so there's no telling how random and uneven the ground is there.
I would say that there is not an inch between these two men. More than likely they both stood about 6'1".
Alex said on 24/Mar/06
I find it very hard to see Arnold under 6'0 in his prime. Today, no doubt the man is 5'11, maybe as low as 5'10.5. But I don't see Arnold over 6'0 in his prime, I'd say he was exactly 6'0 in his prime.
Alex said on 24/Mar/06
Brigitte was probably 6'0.
Jason said on 24/Mar/06
Sorry, Danimal - Brigitte Nielson was listed in the Guiness Book of Records as the tallest actress to play a principal role at 182cm (5'11 1/2''). Rob has her listed here at 5'11 1/2''. It's not just my opinion...
I'm 24 - almost 25.
Disco Man said on 24/Mar/06
Fasulo,
As I mentioned in my previous post on Arnold vs. Reg Park (check it out, it's down a ways so you have to scroll, I have links to pics of Reg standing next to Arnold). In most pictures I have seen Reg with Arnold, Reg is at least 1" taller than Arnold. Reg was measured barefoot back in the 1950s at 6'1" (see my post for more details). Some have said Reg was 6'2" or 6'1.5" however Reg said he was 6'1"(barefoot). Reg was very honest about his dimensions and was known for years as being a honest guy in the bodybuilding community. Reg was also the same height as Steve Reeves who was a genuine 6'1".
A picture of Reg here next to Steve both are standing 6'1":
Click HereReg slightly taller than Reeves due to the slippers he's wearing:
Click HereNow here's Reg and Arnold, where Reg is clearly taller:
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Danimal said on 24/Mar/06
God Jason, give it a rest in trying lower everyone's height and then stating their height's as if it is fact. It is your opinion. Brigitte Nielson's height in 1984 was NOT 5'11.5". She was always listed at 6'0"-6'1". You just lower her as you do everyone else and then reference yourself as the leas source contributor to their NEW alleged height. Jason, how old are you and how are you able to spend your ENTIRE day on this site????
Anonymous said on 23/Mar/06
Here`s a fine picture of Arnold standing side by side with others bodybuilders:
Click HereHe is tallest of them, for sure.
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Fasulo said on 23/Mar/06
Another present...
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Fasulo said on 23/Mar/06
My little present for you...
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Jason said on 23/Mar/06
I rented out Red Sonja last week and Arnold was the exact same height as 5'11 1/2'' Brigitte Nielson (they were both the main stars of the movie and had loads of scenes together).
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mike said on 23/Mar/06
i gotta agree with what editor rob said awhile ago "arnold looked a good 6'1 in 90's films, but currently..." now prolly 6 even, although arnie can look his 6'2 with glenn and the link with him, kerry, and ford that i posted, with boots or lifts, i think he really was over 6 and this 5'10 talk is still alil ridicolous.
Jason said on 23/Mar/06
And pretty much confirms Arnold was never taller than 182cm/5'11 1/2''.
Jason said on 23/Mar/06
6'1'' when he started bodybuilding? His trainer measured him at 182cm soon after he started - that's only 5'11 1/2''. Confirms my theory that Arnold stopped growing early, though.
Disco Man said on 23/Mar/06
Last night I was reading Dick Tyler's book 'West Coast Bodybuilding Scene' which is a book that has excerpts from articles Dick wrote for Joe Weider's bodybuilding magazines from 1965 - 1971 (Dick Tyler worked for many years for Joe Weider). One of the articles is an interview from 1969 which he and Don Peters interview Arnold Schwarzenegger and Arnold says he's 6'1". Here's the exerpt from the interview which is on page 292 of the book:
Dick Tyler: ....Arnold, how much did you weigh when you started?
Arnold S.: 150 pounds.
Dick Tyler: At the same height?
Arnold S.: Yes, six-foot, one inch.
Translation: Dick was asking Arnold what weight he was at when he started bodybuilding, Arnold told him 150 lbs and Dick asked him if he was the same height when he started bodybuilding as he was in 1969 at the time of the interview (22 years old). Arnold said yes he was the same height when he started bodybuilding, he was 6'1" just like he was during the interview.
Just wanted to share my find.
Editor Rob
interesting...
Cobra said on 23/Mar/06
And, some people forget, the memory effect, and this is a massive effect.
For Arnold it`s much more easier to gain muscle because he was in his youth extremely muscular. The body remind`s that, so he can get several times faster in shape than someone who never trained.
Elio said on 23/Mar/06
Rob,
The green muscle suit is an urban myth. The only time he wore any kind of green suit was at the end of the movie when they needed to CG in the metal underneath the skin.
It's still not possible to create undetectable cgi human bodies. Look at the Matrix Reloaded and Spiderman 2 (both released around the time of Terminator 3), it's very obvious when it's being used. And in these cases, the recreated bodies were dressed in clothes.
Besides, It would completely destroy Schwarzenegger's image if he were to 'cheat' this way.... something i don't think he'd risk. And it would feel humiliating for him on set.... he'd probably rather dress up in a chicken outfit.
The reasons for his physique being as good as it was, was down to training and eating well for a number of months and good lighting on the set.
Link said on 23/Mar/06
discoman i do understand BF% i am a beginning bodybuilder and know nutrition etc but thankyou for a decent post with knowledge, its nice to know intelligent people exist lol. My dad BF% id estimate around 15%, meaning around 30lbs of him is fat, making his true muscle weight around 225lbs, but still, 10lbs isnt a lot...
My BF% last check was 11.7%...I may have gone down...metabolism is s*** crazy, thats why im stuck at 155lbs on a 4000 calorie a day diet *rolls eyes*
mike said on 22/Mar/06
i also cant believe how he got in great shape for t3, regardless of his real weight and he was still in awesome shape in 03 but then mid way through 04 and currently he looks tubby still prolly mad strong though, what happened??? i know he dont exercise as much but still thats a scary decline, i thought some of the pics were fake
Editor Rob
maybe my memory is hazy but I thought I read one of the reasons he had green suit on was to digitally add muscles etc...in T3 anyway
mike said on 22/Mar/06
thanx glenn for your insight,it must be pretty cool to meet all these celebs in person, whether or not their cool/nice.. i was shocked at mel gibson, and robert deniro for one of the worst i "heard" they were nice guys ...i guess not. also Frank2, i meant just to meet arnold in person once,even though now of days hes prolly in the worst shape of his life i've always loved his movies and he seems like a cool guy. I would honestly be shocked that Arnold only weighed 220-230 tops for most of his movies at standing over 6 feet though, he could be but id be shocked if he was. My dads 6'1 to 6'2, and is 200 pounds, give or take 5, depending on winter or summer. He looks of average weight in pictures with other people or if u meet him in person, arnold "looks" at least 40 or more pounds then my dad, arnold also lifts weights my dad doesnt, meaning more weight for arnold. My dad looks lean, not thick/jacked/heavy/ like arnold. no way arnies only 20 more pounds then my dad. Arnold "rarely" looks lean
Cobra said on 22/Mar/06
2 % body fat is too low, even for a bodybuilder in competiton form.
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Glenn said on 22/Mar/06
Thanks for helping out Rob.never met the new superman,but my friends in vegas said he had a wall of security around him and ignored request.hopefully superman curse wont hit him.
Disco Man said on 21/Mar/06
Link,
The difference is Arnold had about 2% bodyfat when he was at his competition weight of 235 lbs. Can guarantee that if your Dad dropped his bodyfat to 2% he would not weigh a lot less than 255 lbs. As an example if a guy is 250 lbs at 10% body fat (10% of body fat is about the highest body fat percentage you can still see a six pack of abs) that means around 25 of his total pounds is body fat. This person would have to lose a little more than 20 lbs to get down to 2% body fat, I.E. he would have to drop to about 228 lbs to be at 2% bodyfat. The average adult male has 20% or more of bodyfat. Let's say for an example your Dad has 20% body fat which would mean he would have to drop his weight of 255 lbs at least 40 lbs to 215 lbs to get down to 2% bodyfat. If his body fat is more than 20% than he would have to lose even more weight. Also just to give you an idea, I am 6'3" and I have been as high as 24% bodyfat and I still had a 34.5" waist. Believe me to drop down to match Arnold's 2% bodyfat, really drops your weight.
Frank2 said on 21/Mar/06
Mike, are you sure you want to see him?:
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Glenn said on 21/Mar/06
Mike - your best bet is NYC. He was here 3 weeks ago. I havn't seen him in 14 years. I heard its hard to get near him with all the secret service. It's easier meeting ex-presidents. Anyway the Best are:
Tom Cruise, Dustin Hoffman, Steven Seagal, Paris Hilton, Willie Nelson, Johnny Depp, David Arquette, Billy Baldwin, Colin Farrel, LL Cool J, Lindsey Lohan.
The WORST:
#1 MADONNA,
Mel Gibson, Busta Rhymes, metal band RUSH, rock band Chicago, Nas, new Bond (Daniel Craig), new Superman (Brandon Routh), Patrick Stewart, Joe Jackson (new wave artist), Sisters of Mercy, Robert DeNiro, Bruce Dickheadson (Iron Maiden), David Lee Roth, Joaquin Pheonix, Reese Witherspoon, M Night shalawhatever etc. Forgive cell phone screwing up lines.
Editor Rob
I cleaned up the post a bit as the cellphone made it harder to read. Is the Superman guy hard to get near? He's barely famous yet and acting the big man?
Link said on 20/Mar/06
once again i must say
age means s***
dad was 6'2 aged 18
measured him 6 months ago aged 55, he was DEAD on 6'2
grandad who is 80 odd was 6'4 as a youngster, once again, dead on 6'4, maybe you people slouch a lot or something
heres a picture to raise a few eyebrows
Click Heretheres a bigger one on google
that my friends shows arnold at 5'11 MAX considering stallone is 5'10 in them dumb 3 inch heeled shoes he wears, stallone looked RIPPED as hell in his prime times and he stated on websites he was 155-160lbs, Now im 6ft at 155lbs which is only two inches off and im a bodybuilder, and unless 2 inches can make one hell of a difference, i look nowhere near as ripped as he did, he was either heavier-or shorter, stallones 5'7, arnold is 5'10-5'11 ish
mike said on 19/Mar/06
hey i know its alil off topic, but does anyone know if and when arnold will be coming to connecticut to visit??? i would love to see him in person, id skip school/work to see him, unless it was a final exam..lol. i would also give height feedback too. I would be honest i wouldnt up or down him. hell id pay to get a pic with him, hes a legend, my fav actor and seems like a nice guy on tv and in person. just curios glenn who were some of your favorite and worst celebs to get pics/autographs from, meaning whose cool and not cool in person.
Disco Man said on 18/Mar/06
Alex/Danimal/JJF,
I posted the reply to you guys but forgot to put in my name under the 'your name' line so it posted as anonymous. Sorry for the confusion.
Anonymous said on 18/Mar/06
Alex,
Thanks to you and Danimal for the clarification. I did some checking since my last post and I have seen Arnold listed with a 260 lbs off-season weight on some sources on the Internet. Reason I was asking was that I have never seen Arnold claim more than 250 lbs. However some bodybuilders keep under wraps their off-season weight.
J.J.F,
Though some classic bodybuilders in the past have exaggerated their height and weight, a lot have been very honest with giving their true height and weight. In my honest opinion I believe that Arnold barefoot is slightly shorter than his claimed 6'2" however he's no 5'11". Dave Draper was around 6'0" and in no pictures of the two men next to each other was Dave taller than Arnold. I believe during Arnold's competition years he was barefoot at least 6'0" if not 6'0.5", he may have even been 6'1" (barefoot). We can get an idea of the general height by looking at old photographs of Arnold. However the only way to tell for sure is to have an impartial person come forward who had measured Arnold's height in his bodybuilding days or for someone to go to the Governor's mansion and make Arnold take off his shoes and measure him head to toe. Until that happens we can only calculate as best we can.
Jason said on 18/Mar/06
Hey Drake, thanks for the reply. That's interesting you think Lou was really about 6'4''. He competed at 268lbs from memory (when he was young).
Alex said on 18/Mar/06
Danimal, Arnold in season was around 240lbs then off season yea was 260lbs like you say. Arnold now is out of shape and looks bad. I wouldn't be suprised if he weighed 190lbs right now.
elio said on 18/Mar/06
J.J.F,
Correct me if i'm wrong, but It seems that your apparant dislike of 'meatheads' and generalisation that all bodybuilders are liars is driving your opinion, as opposed to going off photographs, etc.
J.J.F said on 17/Mar/06
For crying out loud 'Disco man' - PARAGRAPH, please. I really can't be bothered to read all that. My eye-doctor has enough cash in the bank.
I have said it time and time again: no bodybuilder can be trusted to give true measurements for anything. Arnie adds a couple of inches to his frame, just like most meatheads.
All the guys in my gym claim heights 1-3" above the height that they obviously are and the guv' of Cali ain't no exception.
Arnie was always around 5'11"
Glenn said on 17/Mar/06
thats too funny! Really? Humpty dumpty! Ha!
Disco Man said on 17/Mar/06
elio,
Good catch about Serge, you're right the 'Pumping Iron' film crew did not fly to France to film him before the contest nor after the contest (they had such a shoe-string budget, they could not have done it if they wanted to). Also great point about Serge being Arnold's competition that year, it was he who was his real competition in the tall class and not Lou Ferrigno. The film crew just used the 'last minute entry' line to make the Arnold vs. Lou story still plausible (without it the movie lost its story). And you're right Arnold was the only last minute entry in the Mr. Olympia during that time period and it was for his out of retirement bid in 1980. What angered Mike Mentzer and other competitors in the 1980 Mr. Olympia was the secretive nature of Arnold's entry in the 1980 Mr. Olympia. Arnold acted like he was going with all the competitors to Austrialia as a spectator. Even on the plane he acted like a spectator. Right before the show started he suited up and announced he was competing which really angered Mentzer. Mentzer and Arnold got into a verbal face-off in the locker room when Mentzer decided he was not going to listen to Arnold's pre-contest mind games (which were made famous in 'Pumping Iron' when he taunted Lou Ferrigno in the pump-up room). Even with the contraversy, the 1980 Mr. Olympia was one of the best, many greats like Arnold, Mentzer, Frank Zane, Boyer Coe, Casey Viator, Ken Waller, Dennis Tinerino, Chris Dickerson, etc. competed. Most of these guys were in the best shape of the careers. Also the 52 year old Reg Park who was still in top condition was the guest poser at the 1980 contest, and got a loud applause from the audience. The downside to the event was that the results so displeased Mike Mentzer that he dropped out of competitive bodybuilding never to return. Unfortunately Mike passed away a few years ago at 49 years of age.
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trueheight said on 17/Mar/06
wow, Mike's link- Ford has REALLY shrunk. He was about 6'1 in his prime
trueheight said on 17/Mar/06
This guy walks SOO funny now that he's in his later years. He walks like humpty dumpty, swaying from side to side. He has posture that'll even rival that of stallones
Disco Man said on 17/Mar/06
Danimal,
Just curious what's your source for his highest weight during competition days as being "well into his 260's"? Arnold is quoted in several different sources including his own book "Arnold the education of a bodybuilder" that his heaviest weight was 250 lbs. Arnold admitted during his 1968 IFBB Mr. Universe he weighed in at 240 lbs (which was too much since he was not chiseled enough to beat Frank Zane):
Click HereArnold lists his top form measurements in his auto-biography and other sources as being 235 lbs (height: 6'2", arms (pumped) 22 inches, chest: 57 inches, waist: 34 inches, thighs: 28 1/2 inches, and calves: 20 inches). He was in these top form measurements when he competed for the 1974 Mr Olympia. He says he weighed the same 235 lbs for the 1975 Mr. Olympia, however some believe he was 225 - 230 lbs since he had only 3 months to gain weight from the 'Stay Hungry' 200 or 210 lbs weight (Arnold claimed in his auto-biography he dropped to 209 lbs, some articles I have read said he dropped to 200 lbs, see my other post for more details). Never-the-less, Arnold was still better than all the competitors on the 1975 Mr. Olympia platform in Peteria, SA.
I would say you're right about his current weight he's probably around 210 lbs however judging from this picture, his bodyfat percentage has increased dramtically in recent years:
Click Here
Danimal said on 16/Mar/06
At Arnold's lowest weight, I figure he was down to 210. His highest weight during his competiton days was well into his 260's. for most of his earlier adult life he maintained a bodyweight of 240-250, but not in later years. 210-215 is a lot more reasonable.
elio said on 16/Mar/06
Great link Mike.
Just goes to show that (lifts or not) he can look roughly his listed height... which makes me wonder why there's so many people saying he looks 5'10". I mean judging from those pics, Kerry only stands 2 inches taller. To my knowledge nobody has said they Kerry only looks 6 foot.
mike said on 16/Mar/06
found it
Click Here the guys name is mark popp he has pics with several celebs george bush sr john kerry and others he has arnie by about 3-4 inches, prolly closer to 4 he has kerry by 1-2 you can open both pics up on 2 diff pages and compare, i give up on arnie too hard to tell his height, its true some pics he towers over people others he looks just a decent height
mike said on 15/Mar/06
yeah in the pics with that other body builder pearl, arnie looks close to 6'1. arnie's legs def arent short by any means, they do look long and that of a man over 6 feet tall, i just dont get why alot of people say hes 5'10 to 5'11, ill try to find a link with arnie and some sponsor dude, this guy is def an inch or two taller then john kerry whose 6'4 and he's more like 4 inches i think taller then arnold, arnold def looks over 6 something because there wasnt a huge gap between him and kerry being shorter then this dude
Disco Man said on 15/Mar/06
Elio,
I would agree with you, Prowse with shoes is probably 6'4" (6'3" without shoes) which would give him a height loss of around 4" since his prime. Arnold with shoes is 6'1" - 6'2" (probably close to 6'2" in the Prowse picture, he may also have slight lifts in his shoes). I would say without shoes Arnold is around 6'0" - 6'0.5"
As a side note, I gave Bill Pearl the benefit of the doubt since he claims to be 5'10", however many claim him to be 5'9" or 5'9.5" If you google Bill Pearl's height on the Internet more web pages and bodybuilding sources will say he's 5'9" than 5'10".
mike said on 15/Mar/06
I didn't mean to start something with arnold's weight but if he is/was over 6 feet, there's no way i can see him under 240-250 for most of his life. When i read he claimed 220-225 for T3 i laughed my balls off, i said no way under 250 He's just huge. one of my roomates is 5'10 and weighed 190-195 last yr, his arms are not big once so ever,mine are alot bigger, he has NO chest or shoulders, he doesnt lift weights, he plays hockey sometimes, he has decent size legs not huge or small, and his stomach is average size, i can toss him around like a football, or even a basketball, i dont think i could do that to arnie, who only supposively weighs only 20-30 smoething more pounds then him and arnie's taller then my roomate by 2 inches and is alot bigger. every inch of height equals like 5 pounds or something like that. getting back to the height subject.... do we know what any of arnold's costars and friends have said of his height besides himself/glenn/ the democratic strategist/ one dude that did visual effects for predator said hes a good 6'1. ???
elio said on 15/Mar/06
Disco Man,
yeah, Stay Hungry probably had more to do with Arnold being lighter than Serge, I'll admit. If he wanted to he probably could have got to 235lbs or higher in that time, but realised that it couldn't have all been quality mass in that time. I also think that Serge being there had an influence on him staying at that lower weight. Pumping Iron says Serge was a surprise last entrant into the competition... when in reality they just hadn't gone to France to film him in the run up to the event. The only last minute Olympia entrant that I'm aware of was Schwarzenegger himself at the '80 Olympia.
elio said on 15/Mar/06
Disco Man,
Thanks for giving the correct link. Most people seem to give Prowse 6'3"-6'4" these days (see his page). I think what this pic proves is that with the correct footwear he can look roughly his listed height.
I have seen quite a few pics of Arnold and Bill Pearl. The gap seems to range between 2 and 3 inches between the two. Based on this, I think 6'0"-6'1" could be correct.
Glenn said on 15/Mar/06
I told you I was bad with weight
Anonymous said on 15/Mar/06
Elio, Arnold was not only 210 pounds during most of his movies. In 1982, in Conan the Barbarian he averaged 220 pounds, dropping down to 212 for one scene.
In 1984 in Terminator he was up to 240 pounds.
In 1988, in Twins, he was 230 pounds.
Disco Man said on 15/Mar/06
Elio,
I believe this is the photo you wanted to link to:
Click HereDavid Prowse is a hard one to compare to Arnold since his bones have been suffering from degeneration for some years now. He has admitted he has lost quite a few inches. David Prowse's height was at one time 6'6.5" or 6'7" depending on the source, my guess is he has lost close to 5 inches with his bone degeneration.
Bill Pearl lists his height at 5'10" on his website (down under editor's note):
Click HereHere's some pictures of Bill Pearl standing next to Arnold during Bill's win of the 1967 NABBA Pro. Mr. Universe (Arnold won the 1967 Amateur NABBA Mr. Universe title that same day). Notice how Arnold only stands about 2" taller than Bill, this is further proof that Arnold is around 6'0" (at the very most 6'0.5") tall:
Click HereClick HereClick Here
Nite said on 15/Mar/06
I remeber seeing him on Letterman s few times in the 90's and Letterman who is listed as 6' 1.5" looked to be about two inches taller than Arnold, and Leterman wearing running shoes and ARnold in boots.
drake said on 15/Mar/06
Hi Jason: Nope, I missed Ferrigno, but personally knew a few people who saw him and met him. Usually they would say he was a "bit" taller than me. I'm 6'3.5" tall (maybe 1/2 cm less now), so I took it that they meant he was about 6'4" tall at the time. So, since I competed at 252-256, Lou may well have competed at 260 plus. I did meet the great Steve Reeves in California once! Didn't get his autograph though. He looked 6'1" and ABOUT 215-220 pounds at that time. Though past his prime, he looked fit.
elio said on 14/Mar/06
Click Here An Interesting pic with David Prowse. Is Arnold Standing on Something?
Disco Man said on 14/Mar/06
elio,
The reason Arnold weighed about 10 lbs less during his appearance at the '75 Mr. Olympia vs. his '74 Mr. Olympia appearance was he was forced to lose weight (ie: muscle mass) for the movie 'Stay Hungry' (1975). The director of the movie thought he would look too big against the short and petite Sally Field in the movie so he requested that Arnold lose the weight which he did. Arnold dropped down to 200 lbs and he looked to be around the around the same weight as the 200 lbs 6'0" Ken Waller who played his main competition during the pose-down for the Mr. Universe competition in the movie. Arnold only had 3 months to put on 25 lbs of muscle for the '75 Mr. Olympia contest after shooting completed of 'Stay Hungry'. If he had another extra month or two to train before the contest he probably would have been 235 lbs. Arnold also wanted to retire after the '74 Mr. Olympia however George Butler said he could only be the star of his movie documentary 'Pumping Iron' if he competed for the 1975 title. This is why Arnold decided to make 1975, his last Mr. Olympia contest because he wanted so badly to be in 'Pumping Iron'. Of course later Arnold came out of retirement for one last bid for the Mr. Olympia title in 1980 which he won with much controversy that still lingers to this day.
elio said on 14/Mar/06
Cobra,
I actually said 225lbs, not 220lbs (for the '75 Olympia). And I'm not alone in thinking Schwarzenegger was this weight.
"Arnold weighed 225 at the 1975 Olympia, 10 pounds more in 1974, and supposedly a few more than that at the 1973 version. In 1971 he was nearly 250."
- Shawn Perine : Flex Magazine Writer and admin at Ironage.us
I have also seen John Hansen write the same thing ( Ex Natural Mr. Universe / Natural Mr. Olympia and columnist for Ironman magazine) but couldn't find the quote.
Bill said on 14/Mar/06
He may have lost a bit due to age and weight training.
Apparently weight lifters can loose up to 2" so it depends what his exercise regime was/is like
Jason said on 14/Mar/06
Regarding Arnold in Red Sonja with Brigitte Nielson, apparently Brigitte was measured at 182cm (5'11 1/2'') for Guiness World Records (tallest actress to play a principal role).
Jason said on 14/Mar/06
drake, did you happen to see Lou Ferrigno in person back in the day?
Jason said on 14/Mar/06
I recall an interview with Arnold from when he was filming ''Eraser'' and they said he was 212lbs.
drake said on 14/Mar/06
Guessing weight can be murder! Let's put it this way: fat weighs LESS than the same volume of muscle. I always thought the height/weight charts were a joke! I accidently put my current weight at 208 - it's 228. Sorry! Must be trying to make my doctor happy! Yeah, as if! According to the height/weight charts I should weigh about 200 even. And that's with a "large" frame. I would guess Arnold's current weight at 225 or so. In Predator he appeared to weigh more than his competitive weigh. The legs and butt carry a LOT of muscle if properly developed. No disrespect, but Mr. Schwarzenegger was never known for great legs. His strength was his arms and chest. BUT, today's body-builders are MUCH heavier than in Arnold's day (let alone my day)! A ripped 225 pounder AT competition would now be probably 69 or 70 inches tall. So, if Arnold was 73" tall when he competed, 225 was just not that big. I weighed 252-256 at competition at 75.5" and got hammered for not being massive enough! So EACH inch in height made competition more difficult.
Glenn said on 13/Mar/06
Im bad guessing weight,but with that height,he always,even now,looks 250-275.
Mike said on 13/Mar/06
ok guys, i know in red heat he was told to drop 10-15 pounds for the role and belushi was told to gain 10-15...he's huge now on his tv show, but thats besides the point and in raw deal, Arnie just looked big not cut but just alot of mass, commando he was def both. if he really was only 230 or lower for most of his films I'd be shocked, his legs are def smaller then they were during his competing days, but he still has a sh*tload of muscle on him, head to toe and he seems to be respectably tall which makes your overall weight alittle higher then if he was short. Mybe he just appears more heavier then he actually is. I heard president Bush is like 190 something and is in good overall shape, if Arnie was only 30 plus pounds more I'd be shocked, Bush wouldnt scare me in a fight Arnie would.
Cobra said on 13/Mar/06
@ elio, sure the quads are responsible for a few pounds, but you can see his legs in more movies than just the Terminator.
220 lbs in Pumping Iron, are you joking? Even in most of his movies he was about 230 lbs, it depends, for example in Predator he looked a few pounds heavier than in Red Heat.
In the audio commentary of the T3 DVD he said he was about 223 pounds when shooting the scene.
But it is true, that Arnold always looked about 20 pounds or so heavier then he really was.
elio said on 13/Mar/06
Mike,
he was definately no more than 220lbs in T3. In fact, for most of his films he was only around the 210lbs mark. As a comparisson, at the end of Pumping Iron at the 1975 Mr.Olympia, Arnold competed at 225lbs, NOT 235lbs as claimed in the opening stages of the film (he dropped weight close to the event in order that his real competition (Serge Nubret) did not outclass him in terms of definition).
Some people are just lighter than they look. Schwarzenegger himself has claimed that his bone structure is quite slender. His 'large' ribcage is more down to the length of those bones, rather than their thickness, and also helped in making him look heavier/bigger than he actually is.
Another thing to consider is, in most of his movies not all of his body is visible (Terminator being the notable exception), so the main bodypart he's had to focus on has been his arms. I'd guess that for a lot of movies where his legs aren't visible that they were MUCH smaller than in contest shape. Bear in mind, legs (particularly upper legs) have a large contribution to overall bodyweight.
Mike said on 13/Mar/06
But the thing is i don't get why alot of people not everybody says hes 5'10 to 5'11. I'm 6'2 i doubt i would have Arnold by 3 to 4 inches i mean if i went side by side with him, i know im def taller then him now even though im 23 years old hes 58, no one claims im under 6
Mike said on 13/Mar/06
yeah glenn i think he was a good 6'1 to 6'1.5 when he was younger, now hes prolly an inch shorter. the thing with arnold is because hes so big and has a huge frame hes prolly taller then people think. skinny people "look" taller then what they are. the one thing i think arnold does lie about is his weight. im not talking his governor weight,or his bodybuilding weight, but his weight when he was in all those action films. i think he said he was like 220 for T3, not a chance!!!! whether hes 5'10 to 6'2, a man with that much muscle is alot more then 220. When u saw him Glenn in the early 1990's how much would you guess his weight around? Even in that pic he's like 2.5 times ur size
drake said on 13/Mar/06
James Christian wasn't in the final call-out (that evening). So, he was like 6th or 7th place. THAT was the cause of part of the arguing, as I recall the winner of the tall category went on to win the AAU Mr. America title. He was Polish or Czech-America (as I recall). I THINK his name was Szkalak (sp), but don't remember his first name. There were tall, medium, and short categories. There was oddly - a most muscular title in those days, and it seemed that was almost never a tallish guy. That guy was Joe Mams, Mems, something like that. It was (and probably IS) very difficult for a tall man to go far in body-building then. I was told I was "lanky" at a competitive weight of 256 pounds! Body-builders tend to "look" shorter due to body mass. Now at 208 pounds, I LOOK taller. And tall body-builders have a habit of appearing to be less massive than they really are. Anyway, Mr. Schwarzeneggar didn't look like he would have been 6'2" barefoot to my eyes, then. But he looked taller than 5'10"... I thought he LOOKED 6' at the time. Frankly, tall men often get their height over-estimated. My 5'4" mother-in-law INSISTS I'm 6'6".
Glenn said on 12/Mar/06
I agree with you mike.I think he is 6-1 minimum.maybe he was 6-2 once.
elio said on 12/Mar/06
Thanks Drake for clearing that one up. Good sighting. Do you happen to remember who won the overall? I'm assuming James Christian didn't place too highly?
drake said on 12/Mar/06
The bodybuilding contest in 1976 was the Mr. America, western division. That's not a professional BB contest in the sense that there wasn't a big money purse. Divisions were by height (unlike Weider's IFBB), not by weight. Mr. Schwarzenegger was there to promote Weider suppliments and weight-lifting equipment. The gentleman he was standing beside was named (I believe) James Christian. I didn't compete in that contest; I was a judge. My competing days ended 8 years before then. Contest photos of me? I'm flattered, but there's no photo of me beside Arnold (I was a judge). :-) I didn't personally measure either man (uh, or touch them in any way). NOW DON'T GO CRAZY Mr. Elito, I'm just kidding! Mr. Christian was LISTED as 6'1", 235 lbs on his score card. I remember because HE was the tallest BB in that contest. He certainly looked 6'1" to 6'2" from my 6'3 1/2" tall perspective. Mr. Schwarzenegger was in clothes (as he wasn't competing either). He was wearing some kind of "skin" boots and appeared to be about the same height as Mr. Christian when standing near him. Don't recall how high the heels were, but I don't recall them being abnormally high. People can look taller or shorter at different times. I was always told I was way too tall to be a bodybuilder. This was on a high school stage (body-building was not very respectable then). Arnold COULD have been 6' or 6'0.5" tall then. Maybe Mr. Christian under-stated HIS height (possible with body-builders at that time). Tall body-builders were often judged as "bean poles". Not by me, of course.
Also, a body-building contest is a madhouse, not a bland setting. I don't know whether Mr. Schwarzenegger was a "nice" guy or not. I never had the oppertunity to speak to him. I was pretty busy ARGUING and speaking with the other judges (one had been tippling, we thought). I did notice the big gap between Arnolds two front teeth. I certainly have nothing against the guy (unless you mean a few silly movies and a few pretty good ones). From what I saw with my own (then) 20/20 vision, he looked about 6 foot then and I would say about 230 pounds. Certainly in shoes or boots he could look 6'1" or 6'1.5".
Brett said on 12/Mar/06
Red bull I use to believe it, but after seeing Arnie next to my 5'10 inch friend in a pic during his recent visit to Shanghai, and he barely looked taller then him, I no longer believe it.
The Judge said on 11/Mar/06
Hello! When Mr.Arnold was face to face with Robert Patrick in T-2, there wasn't a big difference between them, about 5 cm max. And we know that Mr.Arnold used some boots so I think he was a good 6'1" in 90's and 6'0,5" now...which is a good height! Even for a Mr.Olympia !
Frank2 said on 11/Mar/06
I'm attending a big black tie affair next week. I hear Arnold will be there. I'll once again check him out. I'm not one for taking a camera along, not to these shindigs. Too many folks who know me would think I've lost my mind if I did and started posing next to these celebs. But if anyone else has a camera and will take a shot of me with Arnold I'll publish it here. I know he's well-over six feet.
RedBull said on 11/Mar/06
Oh yeah, I forgot, I think 6'0" is a good estimate. could be an inch less...could be an inch more (5'11 to 6'1) which would make him 6'2 in shoes. Wouldnt you ppl agree?... Also 6'0" people can easily look 6'2" if standing really straight and wearing the right clothes.
RedBull said on 11/Mar/06
Heck, If I was a movie star I would add 2 inches too.
I would put like 5'11 so people would guess my real height("RedBull is lying about his height, hes really 5'9!! (my real height).
Glenn said on 11/Mar/06
That pic is from 1992.I saw him a bunch of times between 1990 and 1992.never again.he always looked 6-2.
Glenn said on 10/Mar/06
I think Bridgett is 6 even.
larry said on 10/Mar/06
Just watched "The Red Sonja". BIZARRE movie, but not the worst I've seen Mr. Schwarzenegger in. :-) He looks about the same height as Bridgett Neilsen (sp???) in most scenes. How tall was (is) she? Of course, most people would seem "squat" compared to Wilt. Arnold cold look ~ 6'2" at times, but more like 6'0" or 1" at other times. Being so broadly built can make one look shorter. I also think very heavy lifting can damage the spine. But I recall Arnold fueding with Mike Mentzer in the 70's about HOW to bodybuild and I recall Arnold being more of a "lighter weights/ higher reps" kind of guy! :-) I've SEEN George Bush Jr. and he's about 5'11" -11.5" in boots. Arnold is at least an inch taller than him. Not seeing both men's footware, who knows, but Arnold never looked less than 6'0" to my eyes in any pic. If Bush wears cheaters, Arnold could be a solid 6'1" or a bit more.
Glenn said on 8/Mar/06
Yes,he can look 6-2.
Cobra said on 8/Mar/06
Here is a very actual pic, at the ASC06:
http://www.powerlifting-selsam.com/n06.htm
(you have to scroll down a little bit)
The powerlifter on his right is 5ft8, he stand straight, Arnold doesn`t.
Arnold look like 185 cm there.
Frank2 said on 8/Mar/06
When Arnold was working on True Lies at Fox and I talked to him about his Hummer vehicle which at the time he had just purchased (In fact he ended up with three!). I noticed he wore what looked like regular lace-up shoes and he was at the very least 6'1". We stood talking for at least twenty minutes. What a nice man! One of the very nicest in Hollywood. I'd say he was 6'2" at one time. He just looks so broad that it's sort of an optical illusion. But as you walk up to him you end up looking up at him!
Disco Man said on 7/Mar/06
Reg Park said in an interview that he was measured by Ray Beck in 1956 at 6'1": http://www.naturalstrength.com/history/regpark2.htm
Here's a few pictures of Reg standing a little taller than Arnold:
http://davedraper.com/gallery/data/510/8davelonbacklg.jpg
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/park/rp100.jpg
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/park/rp163.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.cz/zavazky/images/park_a_jeho_zaci_b.jpg
Arnold's flat hair in these pictures put him at a disadvantage. I would say Reg is around 1/2" or 1" taller if you subtract the hair.
In the link that Mark posted below where Arnold looked taller than Reg:
http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/arnold.html - notice how Arnold's feet are higher in the picture this gives the allusion that Arnold is taller. However if you were to cut the photos of the two and match up the feet so they were level, Reg would be taller. If you compare picture after picture of Arnold next to Reg, most pictures will show Reg is just slightly taller than Arnold. I believe that Reg Park is indeed 6'1" barefoot, especially if you compare him to other famous people he has stood next to in different pictures. As an example see Reg Park in this picture with 6'5" Lou Ferrigno:
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/park/rp185.jpg
Though Reg has shoes on and Lou does not and Reg is closer to the camera which would give him another advantage of an inch or two. He looks to be standing a good 6'2" or more in shoes.
If I would have to bet I would say that Arnold is probably 6'0 1/2 or 6'0 barefoot.
Joe said on 6/Mar/06
Arnold seems to be another height chameleon. Sometimes I think he looks 5'10ish and sometimes I think he truly does look 6'1-6'2. That's why I think there has to be some truth to him being 5'10, 5'11, his height just seems to fluctuate too much. Too many people have claimed he is under 6' and what of these stories about his boots being heavily guarded?
gdawg said on 6/Mar/06
I just watched the 2005 Arnold Classic bodybuilding contest. Schwarzenegger has sponsored this contest for a few years now. Dexter Jackson won the contest and stands 5'6" in bare feet. Standing next to Arnold and shaking his hand for awhile, Dexter Jackson--barefoot on stage--looked no more than 6 inches shorter than Arnold in his shoes. The top of Dexter's head came up to Arnold's eyebrows...probably closer to a 5 inch rather than a 6 inch height difference.
Although Arnold looked tall compared to other people on stage, he certainly didn't look 6'2". My best estimate is 5'11" to 6'0".
Cobra said on 6/Mar/06
Yeah, Arnold looked like a solid 6ft2 in that pic.
Frank P said on 6/Mar/06
Anonymous, I just saw your photo. I don't know how you can tell they're in the same level ground or what type of shoes they have on, when the shot is from the chest up. For the record, I'm not saying that he's under 6"0 per say. I've never met him. I'm saying yeah it's possible. I don't think he's over 6"0 no. If I had to guess I'd say 5"11-6"0. I sincerely believe IMO he was NEVER 6"2. And once and for all, what is Bridgette's height?? cause I really don't know. I thought around 5"11 but I don't know.
Anonymous said on 5/Mar/06
Come on, i posted a link to a photo with Brigitte and Arnold and seemed that no one noticed my post.
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/terminator/Brigitte.jpg
In this pic he is clearly taller than her and i believe they`re in same level ground.
Take care
Alex said on 5/Mar/06
Rob, if this is for Arnold's height today he needs a downgrade to 5'11 for now.
Alex said on 5/Mar/06
The picture with Arnold, Wilt and Andre comfirms Arnold to be about 6'0 and nothing more than that. But I tell you in those terminator movies the man looked like 6'1-6'2 but the pic with wilt and andre is better showing he was never that tall legit. Today hes 5'10-5'11. Somewhere in that range.
elio said on 5/Mar/06
Saw Red Sonja the other night for the first time. Despite people saying that Brigitte looked taller than him, I saw Arnold being a clear inch taller than her in all but the very last scene (where they appear the same height on uneven, rocky ground). So I really doubt he was/is under 6'0".
Noname said on 4/Mar/06
Jone, ask him to go under a height rod and take a picture with his shoes off, then you'll know for sure! :)
elio said on 3/Mar/06
Jake,
He seemed to have 'very long' legs when he was younger, barefoot onstage. Of the photos I see of him these days, he legs don't seem to be 'too' long.
My point is, either his legs have shrunk AND he's wearing lifts ... or they haven't shrunk at all, in which case He'd look like he was on stilts if he wore 3"+ lifts.
Jake said on 2/Mar/06
elio, you don't think he looks to have long legs because he wears lifts? Couldn't that be why he looks to have VERY long legs?
Alex said on 2/Mar/06
I believe Arnold was 6'0 in his prime and now more 5'11 but in the pic with Andre and Wilt he looks only 5'10 though which is weird.
316 said on 2/Mar/06
In that pic with Glenn, Arnold looks more like 6'2 to me.
elio said on 1/Mar/06
I wonder if Arnold's proportions have anything to do with some extra 'shrinkage'. The man has always had VERY long legs in comparisson to the length of his torso.
I always thought most height loss would occur from spine compression, but maybe if Arnold's suffering from some form of osteoporosis he's lost an inch or two from his (once very long) legs?
One thing that's always made me think he doesn't wear 'huge' lifts is that with such long legs already, adding 2-4" to them would make the guy look bizarrely out of proportion. Even if Arnold is/was only 5'11, his inside leg measurement looks to be at least 36". With lifts, he could end up with an inside leg measurement of around 40", which I think would look weird on anyone under 6'4".
TNTinCA said on 1/Mar/06
I am sorry but I cannot fathom that Arnold is 5'10". That's my height and I would be amazed that he could get away with that type of illusion all these years. Being that he competed barefoot a lot of times during his Mr Olympia years, I think anybody with eyes would have been able to see the difference between someone who is 5'10" versus someone who claims to be 6'2".
Which is why I think it makes more sense that he was likely 6'1" in his prime. The difference between 6'1" and 6'2" is not easily noticable. I have two good friends of mine. One is 6'0" and the other is 6'2" and often times, they look very close in height. Same goes for another friend of mine who is 5'11". We often look very close in height with me being 5'10". An inch or error is possible. But 2 or more? I don't buy it.
My opinion is that Arnold peaked at 6'1" and is now closer to 6'0". An inch loss of height for someone approaching 60 is not unusual.
Jason said on 1/Mar/06
I think Arnold's taller than 5'10''. Some people are gonna underestimate. An example: I was only 5'11'' when I turned 18 and was at the doctor's for a physical, the doctor was about to measure me and asked how tall I was out of curiousity, as we were chatting, and guessed 178cm (a flat 5'10''). I said no, 181cm (5'11 1/4'' - my height at the time). So, I flipped off my thongs (flip flops for you North Americans) and he proceeded to measure me - I had a shaved head at the time, too - and voila - came in at the 181cm I said I was.
Frank P said on 1/Mar/06
An old boss of mine claimed he stood next to him in an airport in 1991 and said about 5"10 as well. I don't know about that, but I think 5"11 is workable. figure guys, if your 5"11, depending on your posture or shoes you can look an inch taller easily enough.
AEP2 said on 1/Mar/06
One of the partners at the firm where I work met Arnold. He claims Arnold is about 5'10".
Frank P said on 1/Mar/06
That's all cool Elio, and that was a classy response I may add. Your not alone either. You see, I've been accused quite a bit of unintentionally offending folks in my own personal life by saying this or that. So I guess you could say I'm kind of speaking from first hand experience.
Mark said on 1/Mar/06
Schwarzenegger taller then reg park barefoot http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/arnold.html
elio said on 28/Feb/06
Frank, you make a fair point.
However, just so you know, as far as that Ferrigno post was concerned, I only added '(as you claim)' purely because you said that you were 5'10" . and you had written that 'This was 1985, so I may have been like .05 of an inch taller right?' . So you didn't actually state 5'10.5". The '(as you claim)' should have probably been a '(as you suggest you were at the time)' as this it what I was meaning. I definately wasn't calling you a liar, in either your height or meeting with Ferrigno.
But I recognise that I have behaved badly on here sometimes. Yes, it's true that this is an opinionated forum, and I have said things that were not polite, which I thought then were important. But now I recognise that I have offended people. And to those people that I have offended, I want to say to you, I am deeply sorry about that, and I apologise, because this is not what I'm trying to do.
Frank P said on 28/Feb/06
Elio, in fairness to Brett, I can see where he could be sensitive to those comments below. I have posted on Ferrigno that I spent an afternoon with him during a grand opening of the gym I used to work at. Which I certainly did and know what I saw. "If you were 5'10.5" (as you claim).." you posted in a portion of a rebuttle to my post in the Ferrigno catagory. Wouldn't you consider that pretty sarcastic to say to a person you don't even know? I got no problem with people saying they disagree with me. Hell I've disagreed with some things people post. But, in the future you may want to think through the wording before you post. In lieu of some responses you got here like Nolifts81 and Brett you see it can be taken personal insult. That's all.
elio said on 28/Feb/06
Brett,
did you or did you not write:
'he is looking no bigger then 5'9" John Bon Jovi ( maybe smaller haha).'
All I did was quote this and figured that to write it you must want to get this man downgraded. If you truly read that message over, then surely you must see how it would be natural to come to this conclusion? I have never discussed any individual encounters of yours that you have posted here. All I said was that there are a lot of people which make up encounters (which was the only sarcastic part of the message), and not that you were necessarily one of those.
I've no problems with anyone who thinks that Arnold is under 6 foot. I'm no fan of his, but personally believe he isn't quite as short as others think. For example, I've disagreed with Jason plenty of times on this forum, but still respect his opinion cause that's just how he's interpreted the 'evidence'. I've just interpreted it differently is all. Also, neither of us have ever resorted to 'name calling'.