Jason said on 12/Sep/07
JT says on 12/Sep/07
''The only debate is whether JBL is 6
JK said on 12/Sep/07
yep JBL is 6'6''
Alex said on 12/Sep/07
Coach would be as short as 6'2 though but could be 6'3 too. JBL isn't more than 6'5.
Vegas said on 12/Sep/07
Viper says on 12/Sep/07
3 inches taller than Coach? Seriously?
yep when he stood straight he was close to 3" taller than Coach
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Viper said on 12/Sep/07
3 inches taller than Coach? Seriously?
topdweeb26 said on 12/Sep/07
You can just height from far away when you draw a level line like JT did.
JT said on 12/Sep/07
The only debate is whether JBL is 6
cantstop25 said on 11/Sep/07
Im gonna hove to respectfully disagree with you there JT. Old pictures seem to indicate that Jones was taller...however if anybody could find the clip when jones and morgan debuted with paul heyman, I rememeber Morgan actually looking taller, im not saying he is but he seemed it that night, and if you watch the videos jones has at most 1.5" on undertaker.
and you cannnot judge heigth when they are so far away, morgan and show were not level, which was why the closer big show got to morgan, the more the height difference decreased. Nash was dwarfed by big show in WCW, looked like nearly 3 inches. In my pic morgan and show appear the same heihgt(though ngi show is 2 icnehs taller) on the show tough enouhg there was 2 inches between them no more no less
dave said on 11/Sep/07
Vince is 6'1'' maximum. Coach has 2 inches easy on him.
Vegas said on 11/Sep/07
the debate over JBL's height can be put to bed after last night
Click Here he is 4-5" taller than Vince and roughly 3" taller than Coach.
JT said on 11/Sep/07
I seem to recall Jones being a little taller than Morgan in the ring but no more than one inch. Jones usually looked at least 2 inches taller than Taker, whose footwear can vary greatly as we all know.
Click Here Click Here Click Here Even in the Corporate Ministry days with his huge boots, Taker did not look as tall next to Big Show as Jones did.
IIRC, Morgan did wrestle Kane in OVW so there may be a few pics of the two out there. There used to be a Kane website with pics from their match but it looks like the site was taken down.
Cantstop25, the camera was level in the pic with Big Show and Morgan.
Click Here Nash looked a little taller next to Big Show in the WCW days than Morgan did next to Big Show, so I think Morgan is around 6
Alex said on 10/Sep/07
Jason, didn't you say you were coming to NYC sooner or later anyway?
Vegas said on 10/Sep/07
great spot there canstop25. i have had that morgan and jones picture for ages and never noticed that it was tilted in Jones' favour
Click HereI rotated the photo 2 degrees; its level now
Click HereBTW in person Paul Wight is about 2.5-3" taller than Morgan. Morgan had a staredown with Samoa Joe at last night's pay-per-view after Joe's match with Christian. He looked to have 10" on the 5'11 Joe and Joe was in wrestling gear too
Alex said on 10/Sep/07
Big Show was at least 2 inches taller than Morgan. He was also at least an inch taller than Jones. Tough to say. Also perhaps Jones and Morgan wore a bit bigger footwear to come closer in height to Big Show so you never know.
cantstop25 said on 10/Sep/07
here I took the pic with morgan and jones, now morgan looks taller though I think the angle is now SLIGHTLY in morgans favor, though not as much as nathan had it originally, if this picutre was leveled otu completely I still think morgan would look taller, but that is becasue nathans head is down. All in all I think they are the same exact height.
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cantstop25 said on 9/Sep/07
i just took a picture of the big show and morgan staredown and thsi is what it really looked like, notice the bottom rope is level
Click Herein the original show looked 3 inches taller but in this one they appear the same height. Though I chock that up to posture, I do think big show is 2 inches taller. THough this is all proof tht picutres can never prove height(especailly one!) which is why I though it was somewhat ridiculous that kane was downgraded a full inch becase he appeared only 2.5" taller then 6'5" ben
Alex said on 9/Sep/07
Topdweeb, that would be hilarious but I doubt that. He could be like 6'5 and think he's 6'3 1/2 though.
cantstop25 said on 9/Sep/07
good picture alex. I actually think morgan and jones look the same heihgt therre because if you look in the background you can see the sing tilted, which means the angle is in jones favor, I dont have photoshop but if somebody could fix that so that the sign is level that would be great.
topdweeb26 said on 9/Sep/07
I think it would be kinda funny if Jason was really 6' 7 but estimates himself at 6' 3 which is why he down grades everyone else.
Vegas said on 9/Sep/07
Alex; for me Morgan is between 6'8 and 6'9, he is not under or over those two figures for sure. I got a much better estimation of Morgan than other big guys like say Kane, Undertaker or Mark Jindrak as Morgan was standing in the one spot for over 20 minutes.
Jones looks in the same range, maybe max half an inch taller but no more
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Alex said on 9/Sep/07
Vegas, what is your guess on Matt Morgan and Nathon Jones? I was thinking 6'10 for Jones and 6'8 for Morgan maybe or is there even 2 inches between the 2?
Jason said on 9/Sep/07
Viper says on 8/Sep/07
''Worst height estimates EVER! Don't worry Viper, you're a very closer second. "Most of the time we're on here disagreeing about an inch or so in height, but you guys are 2"-4" off of these height estimates. You might want to find another hobby."
This is rich coming from a guy who thinks Tyler Mane is 6-10, Shawne Merriman 6-4, and Andre the Giant at over 7-0 :). I think Jason is way off on Matt Morgan's height, but his estimates are pretty good overall, much more than yours LV.''
& since when are the majority always right? Bit of a logical fallacy there in his argument... lol
Alex said on 9/Sep/07
I agree with Danimal though. 6'4 minimum, 6'5 at most. 6'6 is too much and 6'3 is too little.
Viper said on 9/Sep/07
JBL is closer to the camera there Vegas.
Jason said on 9/Sep/07
Good luck in the drubbing of Namibia. I forgot they were even in it. :P We ended up getting 91 points out of Japan last night... hahaha. To their 3.
Alex said on 8/Sep/07
Nathon Jones is closer to 6'10 I'd say and Morgan is at least 6'8.
LV said on 8/Sep/07
I'll post this again (
Click Here). Jones looks every bit of 6'10" here.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
I think JBL is 6-4 when all is said and done. But he can look even shorter. JBL being 6-5-6-6 would shock me a lot more than Jason's 6-3 estimate. You know hes getting a lot of help in his cowboy boots.
Danimal said on 8/Sep/07
6'4"-6'5" for JBL.
Jason said on 8/Sep/07
vegas says on 7/Sep/07
''i can see an ireland v australia final now :P
Jason; we are def stronger than you guys at the moment, france and the all-blacks are the only ones who worry me.
Pity we got such as tough group with France and Argentina and then New Zealand in the quarters, grrrrrrrrrrr and England (typically) get an easy passage through to the semis''
Actually, we've got a full strength side ... and a sacrificial lamb tonight in a couple of hours in the form of Japan. France, while I like them, seemed ineffective last night -- Argentina scored a well-deserved win.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
"Foley's like 6'1 1/2'' at most and probably closer to 6'0'' there with his typical posture. JBL's probably in bigger footware and/or shoe inserts; he's got the typical buck-legged look in the first photo people get when doing so... I think he's 6'3'' FWIW."
Most agree with your estimated on Foley Jason. Though Im not surprised that LV was offended by it, lol. Hell, Vegas saw Mick at 6-3, where he is alone on that one.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
Whats interesting to me is that Jason saw Nathan Jones at a huge 6-8. I can agree with that, and a lot of people would. Bur he only saw Matt Morgan at 6-5, maybe 6-6 at best?
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
Worst height estimates EVER! Don't worry Viper, you're a very closer second. "Most of the time we're on here disagreeing about an inch or so in height, but you guys are 2"-4" off of these height estimates. You might want to find another hobby."
This is rich coming from a guy who thinks Tyler Mane is 6-10, Shawne Merriman 6-4, and Andre the Giant at over 7-0 :). I think Jason is way off on Matt Morgan's height, but his estimates are pretty good overall, much more than yours LV.
Viper said on 8/Sep/07
No, Id actually say the lowest height you can go for JBL IS 6-3. He looked 6-2-6-3 with Charles Barkley as well. Nobody is saying 6-3 is a definite for JBL, except for maybe Jason. I think hes more 6-4 personally. Undertaker at 6-6? Certaintly.
Danimal said on 7/Sep/07
Viper, you always choose the ABSOLUTE lowest common demonitor huh?
LV said on 7/Sep/07
Jason says on 7/Sep/07
Actually, I stuck with 6'5'' for Morgan, but I've thought for a little while 6'6''. Sorry folks, can't go any higher than that for him from what I saw...
Foley's like 6'1 1/2'' at most and probably closer to 6'0'' there with his typical posture. JBL's probably in bigger footware and/or shoe inserts; he's got the typical buck-legged look in the first photo people get when doing so... I think he's 6'3'' FWIW.
Worst height estimates EVER! Don't worry Viper, you're a very closer second. Most of the time we're on here disagreeing about an inch or so in height, but you guys are 2"-4" off of these height estimates. You might want to find another hobby.
Alex said on 7/Sep/07
There has gotta be 11 inches between Angle and Morgan there but Morgan has bigger boots which are probably giving 1 inch more than Angle's so there still would be at least 10 inches difference. 6'8-6'9 is Morgan's legit height probably.
Alex said on 7/Sep/07
Even with those boots he still would have close to a foot on Angle. He looks at least 6'9 there with Angle.
cantstop25 said on 7/Sep/07
though he also had tremendous posture so that must have been what made him appear so tall. Shad from cryme tyme definitely looked a legit 6'6" chuck palumbo and randy orton both looked about 6'4", and the big surprise was cade and murdoch never really viewed them as tall, cade was just about as tall as the tall fan, and Murdoch actually looked about 6'3"-4" though I always figured him to be no more 6'2". Snitsky also appeared 6
cantstop25 said on 7/Sep/07
I was at a raw house show not too long ago, and for a while I felt like these wrestlers were not near as tall as I thought they should be. But the whole night there was one pretty tall guy in the front row about 30 feet away from me and he was in one of the best spots right at the entrance so all the wrestlers were walking right by him. But when the wrestlers walked by him I only figured him to be 6'3" compared to the other wrestlers. But I must say when I got up during intermission I saw him and he was definitelly legitimately 6'6"! There was a big fella by the name of dan rodman who was listed at 6'7" on that tough enough show, but he had an easy 2 inches maybe even 3 inches on this guy (which would put him at 6
vegas said on 7/Sep/07
i can see an ireland v australia final now :P
Jason; we are def stronger than you guys at the moment, france and the all-blacks are the only ones who worry me.
Pity we got such as tough group with France and Argentina and then New Zealand in the quarters, grrrrrrrrrrr and England (typically) get an easy passage through to the semis
Viper said on 7/Sep/07
"And if Bradshaw is 6'3'' that means the Undertaker is 6'5''. Not possible."
Id say 6-4 for JBL and 6-6 for Undertaker are definite possibilites. Ive always pegged JBL as 6-4 max. And JBL did look 6-3ish on some page with a fan comparing him to other wrestlers. JBL did not look 6-5 or 6-6 with him. Though I will say Morgan is probably no shorter than 6-7 1/2 If he was listed at 6-10 in college.
Jason said on 7/Sep/07
Morgan's in large boots there; look at the height of the front of the shoe compared to Angle's. The wearing of lifts and large footware is rife in wrestling and Matt Morgan's a guy who's gimmick is his size. You hear about wrestlers shrinking here til the cows come home, but absolutely nowhere near as much lifts... Anyway, are you watching the rugby right now???
Dave, me wake up and smell the roses and
trolling? Mate, you're the one getting fresh over my estimations of freakin' wrestlers' heights of all things lol. It's not that serious ... really! You should also take note of the rule about insulting remarks regarding others' opinions...
vegas said on 7/Sep/07
kurt angle would be struggling big time with 5'8 if Morgan was 6'6 (he would be struggling with 5'7 actually imo)
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dave said on 7/Sep/07
Jason...wake up and smell the roses, or maybe you're just
trolling. If 6'6'' is the highrest you will go for Morgan then 5'8'' would be the highest for Angle and 6'7'' would be the highest for Nash. And if Bradshaw is 6'3'' that means the Undertaker is 6'5''. Not possible.
vegas said on 7/Sep/07
A 6'4-6'5 guy getting listed at 6'10 in basketball, not a chance. Its a good job i met Morgan and talked to him, he is not shorter than 6'8 for sure. if morgan is 6'4-6'5 then kurt angle is 5'6 as there is a 10-11" difference between the two, of course nathan jones is no more than 6'4-6'5 either in that case....
Alex said on 7/Sep/07
At 6'6 I don't think he's going to get away with being billed at 6'10. Lowest he would be to me is 6'8 where he can get away with 6'10.
Jason said on 7/Sep/07
Actually, I stuck with 6'5'' for Morgan, but I've thought for a little while 6'6''. Sorry folks, can't go any higher than that for him from what I saw...
Foley's like 6'1 1/2'' at most and probably closer to 6'0'' there with his typical posture. JBL's probably in bigger footware and/or shoe inserts; he's got the typical buck-legged look in the first photo people get when doing so... I think he's 6'3'' FWIW.
Danimal said on 6/Sep/07
Big Show truly did look 7'1" in his WCW days.
topdweeb26 said on 6/Sep/07
Yeah like I said before, nothing personal against Jason or anything, but it's hard to take his estimates seriously when he's this far off.
Gollum said on 6/Sep/07
JBL is 6'6, maybe 6'5.
dave said on 6/Sep/07
Jason needs a serious crash course in how to judge height, thats brutal.
JT said on 6/Sep/07
Click Here Click Here Click Here Foley's the one in the 6'2" to 6'3" range. Jason also estimated Matt Morgan at 6'4", Nash at 6'7", Big Show barely taller than a 6'6" bodybuilder, Singh/Khali at around 6'9", Andre at around 6
vegas said on 6/Sep/07
Layfield does slouch an awful lot. Its not surprising Jason thought 6'2.5" because he barely ever stands straight. this is an excellent example, ron simmons posture barely ever changes throughout but JBL is all over the place
Click HereBTW i have JBL's pro football listing on hand and it isn't in the 6'2 or 6'3 range.
Noel said on 6/Sep/07
Wahhh !! Owwman.... i was really lookin forward to readin the articles but they need you to make an account where u need to pay... Owhh man.... can any post a separate link so that people with no accounts can read em ?
LV said on 5/Sep/07
Big Show's 7'1" listings are probably in shoes. I still don't think he's shorter than 6'11", but he's not 7'1" barefoot.
Gollum said on 5/Sep/07
Morgan is no shorter than 6'8.
Viper said on 5/Sep/07
The tallest I can buy JBL at is 6-4. Im much more inclined to beleive the 6-2 1/2- 6-3 that Jason saw than the 6-6 being thrown around for him.
Alex said on 5/Sep/07
JBL can look taller because of his cowboy boots. I don't think he's as tall as 6'6 but not as short as 6'3 like Jason thought. Somewhere from 6'4 to 6'5 but I would say he's a legit 6'5 but no more. Big Show had JBL by at least 6 inches.
vegas said on 5/Sep/07
yeah if you go right back to the first article dated October 6, 1990
it describes Wight as "a 7-foot-1, 332-pound center from Northern Oklahoma College"
All the entries describe Wight as a 7'1 center though, at least during the years he played basketball 1990-92
topdweeb26 said on 5/Sep/07
vegas: I did type in the search and I found something interesting: "Even a Giant has limits How do you threaten a 7-foot wrestler who also happens to weigh 420 pounds? It's not easy, but an insult may just do the trick. Paul Wight, a wrestler and former Wichita State basketball player who goes by the name The Giant because of his 7-foot-tall frame"
vegas said on 5/Sep/07
totally ignore those last few links, i don't know why it didn't come threw properly :(
anyways type paul Wight into the search box in this article and you will get the 48 entries going back to 1990
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vegas said on 5/Sep/07
there are 48 entries in these articles, most talking about Wight during his basketball career (1990-1992)
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Click Herethe last article describes Ron Smith, Greg Dreiling and Paul Wight as the only 7 footers to ever play basketball at WSU; i found Greg Dreiling's listing here
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JK said on 4/Sep/07
JBL is more 6'6''
vegas said on 4/Sep/07
morgan didn't look taller than 6'9 to me or shorter than 6'8.
Alex said on 3/Sep/07
Thing is JBL is more 6'5, but its weird because Morgan looks 6'9-6'10 to me in general. And based on that picture Morgan isn't 4-5 inches taller than JBL. JBL is known for those big cowboy boots giving 2 inches of height at least.
topdweeb26 said on 3/Sep/07
Morgan does seem a lot taller than JBL.. Big Show has to be a legit 7-footer. The only way he's not is if someone can argue that JBL is less than 6' 6, which I have seen him in real life before, and he does seem to be about that size.
JT said on 3/Sep/07
Very true Cantstop25.
Click Here Morgan looks around 2" to 2.5" taller, or probably around 1" to 1.5" taller since Akebono's likely barefoot there given that's how he wrestled. Akebono looks closer to the camera b/c of his huge gut. Morgan would never be that much taller if both were in comparable shoes. This gives you a rough idea how Morgan and ~ 6'6" JBL would measure up.
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mike m said on 2/Sep/07
yes,but akebono was also barefoot,morgan was in wrestling gear face to face with show.
ted said on 1/Sep/07
This is true that no one has noticed that the Big Show is one inch taller than Singh.
Alex said on 1/Sep/07
The 6'7 for Big Show I thought was way too low, but with bad posture Big Show can look as short as 6'9-6'10 though while we know he's at least 6'11.
cantstop25 said on 31/Aug/07
there was once a picture of matt standing next to akebono and he was 2-3" taller no joke
dave said on 31/Aug/07
Either way its rediculous. Show towers over 6'4.5 Conan O'Brien and stacks up well with a giant like Dalip Singh. Impression is still the opinion Jason had.
Alex said on 31/Aug/07
Jason said he gave a 6'7 impression but didn't say for sure he was 6'7.
dave said on 31/Aug/07
My estimations for some of the wrestlers:
Big Show: 6'11.25 - 485
Khali: 7'1.5 - 410
Kane: 6'8.5 - 310
Undertaker: 6'7.75 - 295
Batista: 6'3 - 280
Lesnar: 6'2 - 285
HHH: 6'2.5 - 260
The Rock: 6'3.25 - 270 (wrestling days)
Booker T: 6'1.25 - 245
Orton: 6'4 - 240
Edge: 6'4 - 225
Kurt Angle: 5'10 - 220
dave said on 31/Aug/07
Big Show looking 6'7'' is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. Thats worse than Jason pegging Dalip Singh at 6'9'' after seeing him in person. Some of you are terrible judges of height.
topdweeb26 said on 31/Aug/07
I think Morgan edges Akebono out in height. Big Show was taller against Akebono than he was against Morgan. Big Show easily 4" (or slightly more) over Akebono and only 3" over Morgan.
mike m said on 30/Aug/07
akebono has been listed at 6'8".imo akebono and morgan are about the same height.
Alex said on 30/Aug/07
I've seen Big Show and Morgan have more 2 inches apart, not 3 but that picture shows a good 3 inches though.
Massimo said on 29/Aug/07
JT-
That picture with Morgan is very interesting! Now I have changed my mind, Big Show is at least 6'10". He is clearly taller than Matt.
mike m said on 29/Aug/07
if hogan is a solid 6'4" then big show in the latest staredown looks 7 inches taller. so 6'11" for big show
mike m said on 29/Aug/07
is there a pic of morgan with taker close up,i still think morgan looks more like 6'8".show 6'11" - 7'0" max.
JT said on 29/Aug/07
Big Show had Morgan by an easy 3 inches (
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Click Here). I see Morgan at around 6'9". Here, he has about 12 inches on 5'10" Kurt Angle though with the high camera angle, he would be a little shorter if he were closer to the camera (
Click Here). Morgan's soles on his shoes are really big but Angle's look pretty large as well. He has Angle by at least 11 inches here (
Click Here). I still think Nash, even at 47 or 48, may edge Morgan out by a shade unless Morgan has a big footwear advantage.
Frank said on 28/Aug/07
I seen about a 3 inch difference between Morgan & Show and i Believe Nathan Jones is alittle taller than Morgan
Alex said on 28/Aug/07
I also remember on Tough Enough 2 where Big Show came as a guest and was in the ring face to face with Morgan and there was only 2 inches apart no more. Morgan has stated himself he was 6'10 for Tough Enough, he could be lieing but who knows. Its Tough Enough so they may not inflate the height so he may be a legit 6'10 or 6'9 at the least.
Ghost said on 28/Aug/07
Click HereIn this video you can compare Matt Morgan with Big Show and they seem very close in height. Maybe morgan wore lifts...
I would say 6'9 for Morgan and 6'11 for Big Show today, 7' in his prime.
Jason said on 27/Aug/07
I've said many times I don't think Big Show is 6'7'', he just gave that appearance...
Jordan said on 27/Aug/07
I think 6'10 is the shortest he can be but If i HAD to bet money I would say he is 6'11.
Alex said on 27/Aug/07
5-6 inches taller than someone is a towering differnece.
topdweeb26 said on 27/Aug/07
LV: go to Youtube and type in "Akebono vs. Royce Gracie" and you'll see the fight. Jason: Even IF you think Akebono is only 6' 5, then you should get 6' 7 COMPLETELY out of your head for Wight, because it's pretty obvious he was MUCH taller than just a measley two inches over Akebono. That's uncontested as we have full body shots of them both in barefeet. Unless you want to argue that Akebono is more like 6' 3, then there's just absolutely no way 6' 7 should even be brought up as an option anymore. With that being said, you said you mistook him for 6' 7.. that's very outrageous considering how much height has on Akebono.. and this time we can't even bring up the possibility of lifts.. which means, you either did not get that good of a view of him, or you are a very bad judge in height.. and if you can misjudge someone that bad in real life.. then I can see how you can get Akebono only being 6' 5 compared to Royce.. :)
mike m said on 27/Aug/07
Lv i totally agree with you 100 percent,show is no less than 6'11",rodman who is 6'7" was 4 inches shorter,big show does have a large forehead.
Jason said on 27/Aug/07
Watching the fight now, 6'' doesn't seem unlikely by any means. They're never face to face at any point and Royce is in a lower stance most of the time they're on their feet.
LV said on 26/Aug/07
This is dumb...Paul Wight is no shorter than 6'11", maybe closer to 7' in his prime. Akebono is enormous. I couldn't find a good link to Akebono/Royce but Akebono dwarfs him and Paul Wight had 4 inches on him. Anyone that thinks Big Show is anywhere near 6'7" is an idiot. His pictures with Dennis Rodman are enough to prove that.
topdweeb26 said on 26/Aug/07
Jason: then in that case, I just don't see how you can seriously think that Akebono only looks 6' 5. He COMPLETELY towers Royce. People who are only 5 or 6 inches shorter than me, do not make me look that gigantic.
Jason said on 26/Aug/07
I have the video of the fight on my computer.
Big Show said on 26/Aug/07
If Akebono is only 6'5, than Bob Sapp is 6'1 and Brock Lesnar 5'11. Akebono towered over both these guys. If you look at his match against Giant Silva, Silva is not that much taller than Akebono. I would like to see him standing in front of Big Show, I doubt he would be taller than him.
topdweeb26 said on 26/Aug/07
Jason: No he doesn't; in their fight, Akebono completely towers Royce and they are both barefooted. He easily looks 6' 8 in his fight against Royce. And, I'm not talking about their promotional pics or anything where we don't know what kinda of ground they are standing on, or they are wearing shoes of unknown thickness. In their fight, they are barefooted and we often see them in full body shots.
Ck said on 26/Aug/07
All these people saying Paul Wight is 6'7" are crazy. The guy is just short of 7 foot. 6'11" at the least. Why can nodoby accept that the guy is that height.
Jason said on 26/Aug/07
He only looked 6-5 tops with Royce Gracie.
Alex said on 25/Aug/07
Topdweeb, right if he was 6'7-6'8 then Akebono would be 6'3-6'4 since there was a good 4 inches between them at least. Akebono is listed at 6'8 but I think he may be more 6'7, probably inflated an inch.
topdweeb26 said on 25/Aug/07
Alex: I agree, I think even 6' 10 is pushing it. But if Show were minimum of 6' 7, then that would definitely put Akebono at either 6' 2 or 6' 3 and that is just completely outrageous.
JS said on 24/Aug/07
I went to school with Paul Wight at SIUEdwardsville at the end of 1992. The first time I met him he came into the Rec center where we were playing foosball. When he entered the room he had to duck and turn sideways. The average doorway is about 6'6" to 6'8", so I promise you that he is in fact atleast 6'10" or better. Also, I am just shy of 6'2" and I played in a 3 on 3 basketball tournament against Paul in Troy, IL. He towered over me by a significant margin and could grab the rim while barely leaving the ground. Anyone that thinks he's under 6'10" must have met someone else.
Alex said on 24/Aug/07
Massimo, the shortest Big Show can be to me is 6'10.
Massimo said on 24/Aug/07
topdweeb26-
To be honest I'm confused and unsure! I remember watching a match in which Morgan and Big Show were involved and Show looked a little taller than Matt. Morgan is a huge guy and I think he is about 6'9" so I would say about 6'10" for Paul Wight. But, on the other hand, Jason has met him and think he is between 6'7" and 6'9". I also remember another guy who months ago wrote that
some big dude (a guy who was arond 6'6" 1/2) had met Big Show and thought he was 1 inch or maybe 1.5 inches taller than him. Quite confusing! IMO the pictures with Rodman are unclear ! I don't trust what WWF says, that's for sure. All I can say is that Paul Wight is somewhere between 6'7" and 7' feet, I can't be more accurate than that. I'm not sure I can believe he wears a size 18 shoe either. However, Paul Wight is a huge guy, he is at least 6'7", has huge hands and weights at least 180 Kg. 180 Kg means about 35 Kg heavier than Shaq. That's very impressive ! Ciao !
topdweeb26 said on 24/Aug/07
Massimo, just curious, but do you have an opinion on how tall the Big Show is?
JT said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo, Big Show probably would have ended up with the distorted facial features like Andre did had he not had surgery at around age 20 to remove the tumor. Big Show's head is every bit as large as Andre's, though he hadn't yet developed the overhanging brow, enlarged jaw, etc. Both had really severe forms of the disease.
Richard Kiel (Jaws from James Bond) had the surgery too but after his facial features had become distorted (the distance between his eyes widened as his skull expanded). For these patients, the surgeon operates through the nose to access the pituitary gland!
It looks like Dalip Singh (Great Khali) never had his condition treated, or at least not until after his facial features had become distorted. These patients also have enlargement of soft tissue, including in the head and neck. You can see how enlarged Singh's tongue is, which causes him difficulty in speaking. The soft tissue around the vocal cords also enlarges, which then affects the voice. Watch the YouTube video on 8
Massimo said on 22/Aug/07
Jason-
I don't know who you are talking about, but I remember that, about 10 years ago, Radhouane Charbib was a guest in an Italian TV-Show. He was 2.35 at the time (now I heard he is 2.27) and,wow,looked HUGE. He was twice taller than all the other persons in the show. He made look Fabrizio Frizzi ( the talkshow host) like... An atom. And Frizzi is not a small guy by any means, he is 6'2" or 6'3" and weights probably around 190-200 lbs. I guess Radhuane has a tumor in his pituitary gland.
topdweeb26 said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo, as JT has already pointed out, some people have more extreme cases of acromegaly than others. It could just be that Andre's was more severe than Big Show's. Or more likely, it could be because Big Show had his tumor removed at an early age, while Andre didn't.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
You should have seen this one guy with acromegaly I saw on a TV program last year. I don't think it developed until he was like 40, the guy was 50-something years old. He was about 6'2'' and had enlarged features and big feet ... but man, you should have heard his voice. Deepest voice I've ever heard bar none -- it was absolutely unreal. He made Andre nearly sound like a choire boy. Come to think of it, I think this was in Italy lol.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
I think there can be other sources besides the pituitary gland, but it's usually that. There's also other different conditions that cause very tall stature or acromegaly-like features. Estrogen resistance and Marfan Syndrome to name a couple. Big Show seems more normal than Andre did, but I would say it's extremely evident with him, too... lol
Massimo said on 22/Aug/07
Thank you guys for the explainations. I'm still a little confused! Is the tumor in the pituitary gland the only existing form of gigantism ? It's a quite complicated issue. Andre the Giant looked much more affected from this disease than Big Show. Big Show looks much more normal than Andre, his head is smaller. By looking at him I wouldn't even know that he has (or "had", I heard he has had a surgery) this illness. In Andre's case sadly it was evident. Thanks again.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
They're the same thing, it's just called acromegaly when it develops in adulthood, after the growth plates have fused.
Big Show said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo says on 21/Aug/07
However it's strange the fact that all the people who have acromegaly have huge
hands and huge feet but some of them don't reach extreme heights. I mean, I have read on the Internet that Primo Carnera was legittimately measured by an American doctor at 6'5" 3/4 (even if many Italians still believe he was over 2.00) and Andre the Giant was probably below 7 feet even at his peak, not even close to a natural giant like Manute Bol. On the other hand Gheorghe Muresan is about 7'6", a full foot taller than Carnera, who suffered from the same desease. I guess there are many different kinds of acromegaly.
Acromegaly mostly develops during adulthood, while gigantism (which causes the extreme heights) develops in childhood. Acromegaly doesn't cause someone to grow any taller.
A good example of someone who has acromegaly but not gigantism is Maurice Tillet. A French wrestler from the 50's who was only 5'10 and nowadays is called "The Human Shrek", as he kind of looked like Shrek.
A good example of someone who had both acromegaly as gigantism is Andre the Giant. Look at pics of Andre when he was still a teen. He was tall but his features where still normal. When he went into adulthood he started to change very rapidly and in a matter of 2 or 3 years he changed from a healthy looking man in the person that we now all know him as.
Jason said on 22/Aug/07
Massimo says on 21/Aug/07
''JT-
Watching your picture is very hard to believe that Liston's hands were as big as Big Show's, so very likely it is not true.
However it's strange the fact that all the people who have acromegaly have huge
hands and huge feet but some of them don't reach extreme heights. I mean, I have read on the Internet that Primo Carnera was legittimately measured by an American doctor at 6'5" 3/4 (even if many Italians still believe he was over 2.00) and Andre the Giant was probably below 7 feet even at his peak, not even close to a natural giant like Manute Bol. On the other hand Gheorghe Muresan is about 7'6", a full foot taller than Carnera, who suffered from the same desease. I guess there are many different kinds of acromegaly.''
Actually, most people with acromegaly are of average height and not even tall. It's only the ones who develop the condition when in childhood or still growing that get tall/extremely tall. It depends when it occurs.
topdweeb -- that's if you believe Akebono is 6'8''. Don't mean to start any debates, just saying...
JT said on 21/Aug/07
Massimo, the people who develop the tumor in their pituitary gland at a young age (before their growth plates fuse) tend to be very tall (Andre, Big Show, Great Khali,
Robert Wadlow, Jaws from the James Bond movies, etc.) Others may develop the tumor later in life, including after the growth plates have fused. They don't become any taller but their hands, feet, brow, jaw, etc. will continue to enlarge from the excessive growth hormones. Also, some people have a mild form of the disease while others have a more severe form.
Alex said on 21/Aug/07
Big Show was 4 inches or a little more taller than Akebono.
HIs fists are actually 13 1/4 inches. Well his hands they said were.
Massimo said on 21/Aug/07
JT-
Watching your picture is very hard to believe that Liston's hands were as big as Big Show's, so very likely it is not true.
However it's strange the fact that all the people who have acromegaly have huge
hands and huge feet but some of them don't reach extreme heights. I mean, I have read on the Internet that Primo Carnera was legittimately measured by an American doctor at 6'5" 3/4 (even if many Italians still believe he was over 2.00) and Andre the Giant was probably below 7 feet even at his peak, not even close to a natural giant like Manute Bol. On the other hand Gheorghe Muresan is about 7'6", a full foot taller than Carnera, who suffered from the same desease. I guess there are many different kinds of acromegaly.
JT said on 21/Aug/07
Messimo, this comparison puts the fist size in better perspective
Click Here Liston is usually listed at between 6
topdweeb26 said on 21/Aug/07
Well it's a good thing that Akebono and Big Show were both barefooted, and in full body pics, because that there tells it all: Big Show is a 7-footer.
Jason said on 21/Aug/07
No, I'm not eating it lol. They pad all kinds of stats in boxing. If you look at the tales of the tape for the various heavyweight champs over the last century, there's some crazy stuff in there that there's simply no way of being true.
Massimo said on 21/Aug/07
Jason-
So, maybe you should put some salt on the keybord. It will be better ;)
JT said on 20/Aug/07
Here you go Massimo. (
Click Here) (
Click Here) This is about the only time they were standing straight and next to each other in the ring (
Click Here).
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Massimo said on 20/Aug/07
Da Man-
Probabaly you're right. The ones I saw weren't good pictures. I have found them in gettyimages.com . However, I have never seen a picture in which Paul Wight looked 4"+ inches taller than Rodman. Anyway, Big Show always looks taller than the other wrestlers. I would like to see him with some tall basketball player like Shaq, Yao, Mutombo or others to solve any doubt. I remember Jason saying that Paul Wight looked 6'7", 6'7" 1/2 when he met him and ,if I remember well, Jason is around 6'3", a big guy, so he could judge Big Show's height well. But, of course, this is not a proof.
Da Man said on 20/Aug/07
Massimo, you are way off. Paul Wight is easily, and I mean easily 4"+ taller than Rodman.
Massimo said on 19/Aug/07
I was watching Big Show's pictures with Dennis Rodman and Paul doesn't look much taller than Dennis. Maybe Jason is right, who knows ? When I watch (very rarely actually) Big Show's matches in Italy, the commentator use to say he is
2.23! What an exaggeration! Funny that Paul Wight has 15" inches hands, the same size as Sonny Liston, a guy who was only 1.84. Primo Carnera (6'5" 3/4) had 14". 75. Howard Cosell said once that Wilt Chamberlain had bigger hands than Sonny Liston, so they were over 15", HUGE HANDS. They used to say that Andre had 16" hands but who knows if it's true. I would pay 50 Euros to know how big Shaq's hands are in inches!
Danimal said on 14/Aug/07
Hogan was probably a legite 6'5" and change guy who rounded his own legite height to 6'6".
Alex said on 14/Aug/07
In my opinion the most accurate is that he was a legit 6'5 at his peak and now is down to 6'3. Has been for a couple years now I think.
Jason said on 14/Aug/07
In your opinion.
Danimal said on 14/Aug/07
6'5"-6'6" is what he was.
Alex said on 13/Aug/07
Yea, 6'6-6'7 for Hogan's peak is out of the question to him being a legit 6'5 at his peak I can't see someone not being able to see that though.
Alex said on 13/Aug/07
I think Hogan lost 2 inches.
Danimal said on 13/Aug/07
Oh please Top. I provided pics to prove this over a year ago of how long Hogan's were in comparison to more recent pics (after his HIP replacement and knee fusions). Too bad Rob doesn't archive old pics we provide on here. He should.
topdweeb26 said on 13/Aug/07
Danimal: If Hogan lost 3 inches between the neck and his torso, then why aren't his legs proportionally a lot longer than the rest of his body? Proportionally, his body looks the same as it ever has. Three inches is a significant loss in any section of the body without having noticeable disfigurement.
Dave said on 13/Aug/07
Taylor..... andre was never over 7' NEVER
Dave said on 13/Aug/07
jason..... there is no way on this planet A-Train in UNDER 6'4..... NO way.
I met him and im 6' barefoot... the man towered over me, he was easily as tall as my uncle whos 6'6 barefoot.
Danimal said on 13/Aug/07
Oh come on, now you're putting ALL the emphasis on his height loss having occured in his lower body and dismissing the fused neck and back surgeries, which in and of itself reduced this man at least 2" in height. Last I remembered, people did not wear their JEANS as a shirt or a tie. I question people's intelligence on here. Vegas, get a life and go outside for 5 minutes would you.
Vegas said on 13/Aug/07
topdweeb26; that is something i never even thought of. If hogan really lost 3" then none of his old clothes from the 1980s/early 1990s would fit him now (they would be waaay to big for him)
topdweeb26 said on 12/Aug/07
On a recent episode of Hogan Knows Best, Hogan got into some jeans he had since the 80s apparently, and they weren't too small for him (except that they were tight because he had gained girth since he first got the pants apparently). Goes to show that he wasn't 6' 6 or even close. I think Hogan at best was about the same height he was now, maybe an inch taller, and that's it.
Danimal said on 10/Aug/07
Goes to show how tall Hogan was in his prime. 6'6" is not out of the question.
Vegas said on 9/Aug/07
Great photos Danny K; you look a legit 6'2 or so next to Steve Corino whom my friend has wrestled and says is close to 6ft barefoot
Click HereBundy and tito santana
Click Here6'2 listed Balls Mahoney
Click HereMatt Morgan looking about 6'8.5-6'9 next to you
Click HereBig Show touching the ceiling, LOL
Click Here
Danny K said on 7/Aug/07
Im 6'2 in a half,King Kong Bundy is 6,4,Trust me i got a pic with him look at it on myspace.com/bigshowjr !
Alex said on 5/Aug/07
Upper end of 6'0 would be 6'10-6'11 which would be Big Show's lowest possible height.
T-money said on 3/Aug/07
There was a picture floating around with Paul Wight standing next to a real estate agent (who claimed to be 6.2'). It appeared like near a foot difference between the two.
shiko said on 2/Aug/07
'This guy at the upper end of 6ft can get away with saying he's this height...I mean, who is gonna argue with him?'
so that means you actually see him as a 6'11?
anonymous said on 23/Jul/07
i,ve reviewed pics of big shows boots,the soles have to be 2 inches the most,they are very thick.my guess for shows height would be closer to 6'11",the shoes make him around 7'1" imo.show with average shoe 6'11.5".
Alex said on 21/Jul/07
A-Train was billed at 6'7-6'8 and for years I thought he actually did look it. Lifts probably the reason and gave an impression of a guy that tall. I've read his real height was 6'6 though. Unsure on his height but I would think he would be 6'5-6'6 legit though.
Jason said on 21/Jul/07
Jason says on 20/Jul/07
''WWF magazine, of all places, had him at 6'4'' in a 1999 issue.''
taker said on 20/Jul/07
jason why do you downsize everyone?
Jason said on 20/Jul/07
A-Train didn't look over 6'4'' when I saw him in person. WWF magazine, of all places, had him at 6'4'' in a 1999 issue.
taker said on 19/Jul/07
big show had rodman by no less than 4 inches.
Vegas said on 15/Jul/07
I dunno how that comment ended up on this page, lol, it was meant for the kane page.
Albert def looked under 6'6 when i met him but it was dark and on the busy new york street unlike all of my other meetings where me and the wrestler were always on even ground and I got a good long look at them. I was surprised how much shorter he looked than what i expected him to be (i think he was being billed at 6'8 at the time and i thought it was legit back then).
he does look 6'6-6'7 there next to McMahon though in your picture JT (is mcmahon standing straight do you reckon??)
Vegas said on 15/Jul/07
I met albert and he looked around 6'5-6'5.5" sans ring gear. That photo JT posted of albert was taken on avenues of americas in new york, march 12 2004, i know because i was there. The kane photo was taken in the parking garage of the hilton hotel new york march 13 2004, i was there for that too. The guy in the photo from what i remember was around 6'1 or maybe a little taller.
mike m said on 14/Jul/07
hogan peak 6'6" today 6'4" the man has lost probably most 2 inches.without a doubt show has him by 7 inches at least,6'11" is a fair estimate for big show.was khali measured at 7'1 barefoot or with shoes?
mike m said on 13/Jul/07
does anyone have a pic of batista and big show?
mike m said on 13/Jul/07
big show appeared to be 6-7 inches taller than hogan.
Frank said on 8/Jul/07
Duncan says he 6ft 5 but i cant see him less than 6ft 4 he was alittle taller than Conan O'Brien who is between 6ft 3isdh to 6ft 4....Actaually Bundy looked taller than Duncan in that clip i seen maybe Bundy has lifts in his boots ??
brother_h said on 8/Jul/07
duncan is 6'5
mabel looked 2 inches taller than bundy, same for hulk hogan. cept hogan was looking down an bundy was looking up.
bundy is 6'4. hogan 6'6 aswell as mabel
but viscera with those football players. looked alot taller than both of em. especially that 6'8 guy
Viper said on 7/Jul/07
Rock looks a full inch shorter than Duncan actually. Rock is closer to the camera with that angle.
Alex said on 7/Jul/07
Duncan is more 6'3 and Rock looks the same height as him or would be 1/2 inch shorter if Rock wasn't closer to the camera.
Alex said on 7/Jul/07
I think we need a Bundy page. What do you say Rob?
Danimal, you're right. He was like 2 inches taller than Bigelow who who about 6'2 himself. I think almost all here will agree that Bundy is 6'4.
Editor Rob
I'm fully aware that wrestler pages are popular, I'm being selective in adding them though.
Vegas said on 7/Jul/07
LV; you cannot estimate height from that viscera/bundy video, there could be any amount of height difference there.
duncan is not 6'4 and bundy is slighty shorter than duncan when they are level but then goes closer to the camera. When the rock stood up straight in a picture with duncan (he is leaning in all the others) they were the same height
Click Hereim gonna disagree with danimal, again lol, bundy is max 6'3. 6'6 John Studd towered over bundy in 1985.
LV said on 7/Jul/07
Great videos. Bundy isn't much shorter than Clarke Duncan or Viscera from youtube videos. If Bundy wasn't a full 6'4", I'd be surprised. No way in hell he was close to 6'2" since he was considerably taller than the 6'1" Ed O'Neil. Its no suprise that many on here want to shrink him, that way it makes Hogan, Andre, and others shorter by comparison. At least get some legit evidence before shrinking some 2" and a random 6'2" posting on obsessedwithwrestling isn't solid proof. Here is my picture of Hogan and Bundy (
Click Here) and here is a match between Bundy and Viscera (
Click Here). The height difference is the same and Viscera is no shorter than 6'6" from his pictures with Big Ben and Max Starks.
supes78 said on 6/Jul/07
Based on that youtube clip, Michael Clark Duncan and Bundy look to be around the same height. At least 6'4" for Bundy. But why the hell are we discussing his height and not Big Show's?
Danimal said on 6/Jul/07
The absolute lowest for Bundy is 6'3".
Gollum said on 6/Jul/07
6'4 for Bundy.
topdweeb26 said on 6/Jul/07
Alex: right I understand. It is just easier to believe you could have been mistaken when you were shorter back then, and didn't even see him on level ground.
Frank said on 5/Jul/07
My Movie Unit Cop Friend took a picture with Ed O'Neil and He looked about
6ft 1 and the Shortest he could be 6ft .5 Also Ed O'neil was as tall as Bo Jackson and he is listed @ 6ft 1
who is listed @ 6ft 1
Alex said on 5/Jul/07
Topdweeb, just telling you the facts or I could have lied and said I was taller then I was back then and was on level ground with him. Still the man looked a legit 6'4.
Ghost said on 5/Jul/07
Click HereHere is Bundy in "Married with Children". He is standing next to Michael Clarke Duncan in the beginning. I would say Bundy was 6'3.5 in his prime.
Editor Rob
at one time in the past...did they clone Big Daddy?
topdweeb26 said on 5/Jul/07
Jason: yeah I guess it's not that much of a stretch. I thought I had a really good point with Alex, but he just HAD to come on here and say he was 5' 11 back then and not on level ground with him. I felt like a lawyer who almost had a case one and then the person he defends just confesses the truth or something.
Frank: never seen that episode, but yeah if Ed O'Niel is for sure 6' 1, then that would be good evidence.
Frank said on 5/Jul/07
Bundy was taller than 6ft 2 for sure He was on Marrried with Children and he was atleast 2 to 3 inches taller than AL Bundy who is about 6ft 1
Jason said on 5/Jul/07
Alex said he looked 6'4''. Personally, I'd figure Bundy's maybe 6'2 1/2'' ... so it's not much of a stretch.
topdweeb26 said on 5/Jul/07
Jason: it's a moot point now, but Bundy would have had to be wearing some massive boots if Alex had been 6' 1 back then. Like so big that I'm sure Alex would have noticed if Bundy was wearing boots that were 3"+.
Jason said on 5/Jul/07
Bam Bam and Bundy only looked an inch apart tops at Survivor Series '94. Doubt he woulda shrunk then at 36.
topdweeb26 said on 4/Jul/07
Alex: you're killing me man...
Danimal said on 4/Jul/07
Bundy had minimum 2" on Bam Bam Bigelow at Superstars in 1987. NO way WAS Bundy 6'2" at his peak.
Jason said on 4/Jul/07
topdweeb26 says on 4/Jul/07
''About Bundy being 6' 2, remember Alex saw him in real life and at a pretty close distance. Alex is almost 6' 1, I think he would have noticed if Bundy was only a little more than an inch taller than him. In fact, he said he could have gotten away with being taller than 6' 4. So Alex either really sucks at judging height, or Obsessed with Wrestling is just simply wrong.''
Or Bundy was wearing big boots. ;)
I didn't mean obsessedwithwrestling.com was accurate, just they tend to list wrestlers as taller rather than shorter so to speak.
Winst said on 4/Jul/07
"Andre the Giant i'd say 7'3.5 " ,not likely since Andre was about 1.5" shorter than Wilt Chamberlain 7'0 1/2"
Alex said on 4/Jul/07
Jason, I thought the 13 1/4 they meant by around his hand while its open, not his fist closed.
Honestly about Bundy's height its debatable really and I think we need a page for him on here. I thought he could have gotten away with 6'6 7 years ago honestly but I was younger and overestimated but I think a legit 6'4 could be accurate for him. If he was as low as 6'2 I'd be shocked.
Alex said on 4/Jul/07
Topdweeb, actually I was only 5'11 when I saw Bundy 7 years ago but he looked over 6'2 for sure though. I wasn't on flat ground with him. He was in the ring while I was in the stands in the front row but this was in a high school gym but still he looked 6'4 to me.
topdweeb26 said on 4/Jul/07
About Bundy being 6' 2, remember Alex saw him in real life and at a pretty close distance. Alex is almost 6' 1, I think he would have noticed if Bundy was only a little more than an inch taller than him. In fact, he said he could have gotten away with being taller than 6' 4. So Alex either really sucks at judging height, or Obsessed with Wrestling is just simply wrong.
Big Show said on 4/Jul/07
If King Kong Bundy is 6'2 than Al Bundy (Ed O'Neill) is no taller than 5'10 as the height difference between these 2 always looked 3-4 inches to me. Btw. King Kong Bundy looked taller than Michael Clarke Duncan in the MWC episode 'Flight of the Bumblebee' IIRC.
topdweeb26 said on 4/Jul/07
Jason: interesting that you say that Obsessed with Wrestling is pretty close to their real heights. You might be interested to know that they have Big Show listed at 7' 1".
Jason said on 4/Jul/07
I thought Bundy was a solid 6'2'' all along.
Jason said on 4/Jul/07
Well, obsessedwithwrestling wouldn't have lowered him to 6'2'' for nothing, usually they have wrestlers at their billed height or not far off.
Alex, by 15'' for Big Show's fists, I mean the circumference of them at the knuckles. The 13 1/4'' is what they're trying to say the length of his hands are, which is BS. lol
Dweeb, I agree Big Show is too old. Physically, he's an old 35 even because he's been wrestling for over a decade and a bit broken down from that.
Alex said on 4/Jul/07
Big Show's hands are 13 1/4 I read. Thats the same chart that had his chest at 65 inches, thighs at 34 inches, calves at 22 inches and so on. I thought the chart looked accurate to me.
Taylor said on 4/Jul/07
Andre the Giant i'd say 7'3.5. King Kong Bundy 6'4.5. Big Show 7'0.5. Khali 7'2.5
Vegas said on 4/Jul/07
obsessed with wrestling have bundy at 6'2.
topdweeb26 said on 4/Jul/07
Jason: Big Show is right in that 35 is ancient in the boxing world. And, as far as I know also, Big Show has no boxing experience. It will take him some time, like one year minimum, to be effective in boxing, and by then, he'll be even older. The size of his fists don't mean squat. Heck, I have small fists compared to most of my opponents, and it has never hindered me. About the only thing he has going for himself is size, but I'm afraid for something like this, his size is a hinderance to himself, not a help. If he's serious about this, then I don't think he'll ever be a serious contender, but more like a side show joke type of attraction.
Jason said on 4/Jul/07
Big John Studd was more than 2 inches taller than King Kong Bundy, more like 4.
Big Show's a bit different to Akebono. In addition to being faster and more agile (and stronger in some areas), Big Show's frame is bigger and he has 15'' fists. I dread to think of him clobbering someone. I remember when Brian Adams got into boxing and got his first match lined up, though he injured himself and had to cancel the fight, and nothing more came of his foray into boxing.
Big Show said on 4/Jul/07
Big Show in boxing would probably be the same joke as Akebono in K-1. I hope he's not serious in persuing a career in the boxing world.
First he's already 35 years old. An age at which most pro-boxes end their careers, not start them.
Second, he's way too big and too slow. Just look at how Akebono handled himself in K-1, did he ever win a single match? He was probably physically much stronger than all of his opponents, but that wasn't enough to compensate his low speed and his lack of experience. I think that would be the same with Big Show. Although Big Show is much faster than Akebono, I doubt he will be a success in the boxing world. As far as I know he never even tried boxing before in his life. It takes more than just being big and strong to make it in the boxing world.
LV said on 4/Jul/07
I agree, Bundy is 6'4"ish. Hogan has at least 2" on him here so that makes Hogan 6'6" (
Click Here).
TNTinCA said on 3/Jul/07
Boxers of the height of the Big Show rarely do well in the pro scene. Especially with his girth. He will lack the stamina to deal with a shorter, faster opponent.
Seems like 6'5" is the "usual" maximum for effective heavyweights. Although the Klitchkos are taller, that is somewhat rare. Most of the really memorable heavyweight boxers were more in the 6 to 6'3" range.
Danimal said on 3/Jul/07
Bundy at his heaviest was said to have been a legit 512 pounds, but averaged between 440-480 pounds.
Danimal said on 3/Jul/07
Well, if Bundy was 6'4", then Hogan was a solid 6'5" in 1980's, which I believe he was (at least 6'5.5").
Da Man said on 3/Jul/07
Big Show boxing, that should be interesting. The guy always did some serious damage to the chairs with minor jabs, lol.
Alex said on 3/Jul/07
Actually I found it on some sites. here is one.
Click Here
Alex said on 3/Jul/07
Topdweeb, I haven't heard that. Maybe just a rumor.
topdweeb26 said on 3/Jul/07
Have you guys heard that the Big Show is going to try to be a pro-boxer? Man that's going to be the joke of the boxing world.
Alex said on 2/Jul/07
Danimal, I saw Bundy from a short distance 7 years ago at a wrestling charity event at my high school and he looked 6'4 and could have gotten away with being taller too. He looked def well over 400lbs though. 440-450lbs was my guess. I remember that poster Ola said Bundy was only 350lbs! Please, thats a load of crap. Yea 350lbs is a lot but Bundy was def over 400lbs.
anonymous said on 2/Jul/07
big show is nothing less of 6'11" barefoot he had at least 4 inches on 6,7" bono.show does wear pretty thick soled boots in the ring which would probably give him another 2 inches max to make 7'1".khali would probably be 7'1"barefoot he has at least an inch thick soled boots ,which make him 7'2".how many people measure themselves barefoot anyways.
Duhon said on 2/Jul/07
Austin, that is why tangible evidence is preffered on this site opposed to second hand accounts...
anonymous said on 1/Jul/07
that pic puts show at about 6,10.5" ,6'11" imo.
JT said on 1/Jul/07
Vegas, I think that photo came from the webshots.com site. He had an album with pics with various wrestlers.
(
Click Here) Devean George is listed almost everywhere at 6
Austin said on 1/Jul/07
I have a 6'2 buddy who swears up and down that the Big show is barely taller than he is. He told me he stood right next to him at a wrestling even, and at most the Big show was 6'3.
topdweeb26 said on 1/Jul/07
Bundy looks to come up to Show's mouth. On my head that is about 8 inches. Who knows what it is one Show since Show has such a large head. But either way, I agree with others here that Show is nothing less than 7' in those pics.
mike said on 1/Jul/07
bundy has 8 inches on that guy,big show has 7-8 inches at least on bundy.big show looks every bit of 7 feet.
Danimal said on 1/Jul/07
JT, I'm surprised you give Bundy a FULL 6'4", when it's clear that Hogan had a couple of inches on him in the mid 80's.
Jordan said on 30/Jun/07
Show looks 7'0 in the bundy pic IMO.
Vegas said on 30/Jun/07
JT where did you get that last pic with big show?? That pic with big show was taken in chicago westin o'hare airport; i know because i was talking to that guy; and its the exact same place we took our photos with show but not the same time as he has a t-shirt on there.
JT said on 30/Jun/07
(
Click Here) Not a perfect comparison though since Salley is leaning forward a bit and Big Show is leaning backwards a bit.
This is comparing Big Show and ~ 6
Vegas said on 30/Jun/07
yes arjun thats what i estimated him in person and thats what i continue to stick with (even though many disagree with me on this); but in those pictures (except the first one posted) he looks 6'11-7ft not 6'10-6'11 imo. 4.5" from shows eyesbrows to top of his head, surely equates to a 5" forehead max (jason says his forehead is 5" and mine is 4.5-4.6"). personally i think it would be closer to 4.8-5" from his eyebrows to the top of his head.
Arjun; we can only speculate on footwear, for all we know Wight has flat shoes on there. We can only go with what we see and that cap lying very high on his head (in comparison to the salley pic) will negate any footwear advantage that wight has there, if any.
Arjun said on 30/Jun/07
Vegas, JT, I could see Show as having 4.5 inches on Rodman, but no more than that, this is assuming that the cap gives Rodman a good inch. As JT said, Show has around 4.5 inches from his eyebrows to the top of his noggin, I think a bald-headed Rodman would definitely make it upto Show's eyebrows. After you cut off 1/2" for Show's footwear advantage, he comes out to basically 4 inches taller than Rodman. I can believe that Rodman is 6'7" (but not over), so Show does come out to around 6'11", and that puts Akebono at 6'7"ish as well, as Show had roughly the same amount of height on Akebono barefoot that he would have on Rodman. It is quite possible for Show to be 6'11" barefoot IMO (which is what you estimated him at, IIRC) but no more than that. Similarly, the lowest I could feasibly see him at is 6'10" (if we push Rodman down a little below 6'7", assume the cap is'nt helping Rodman's height that much etc. etc.) But def. no lower than 6'10" barefoot. Realistically speaking, I think Show is right around that 6'10.5" - 6'11" range barefoot.
Winst said on 29/Jun/07
Usually with acromegalic people only the soft tissues grow grow to enormous proportions, the forehead being a hard boney part doesn't enlarge as much,
topdweeb26 said on 29/Jun/07
JT: in that pic, I can't tell any difference in height between Khali and Show. Khali carries his shoulders higher, which I'm not sure if he is doing that purposely to make him look taller of if it is natural. But either way, where the top of their heads are, they look exactly the same.
JT said on 28/Jun/07
Big Show does not have an enormous forehead, right LV? (
Click Here). This shows how much larger Big Show
mike m said on 28/Jun/07
vegas do you have a pic with triple h and show?
Vegas said on 28/Jun/07
yes Heidenreich did have a match with taker (a few in fact). i was ringside for a raw in england when they both had a staredown and taker was only a inch or so taller
JT said on 28/Jun/07
Apparently it was not obvious to some here that Big Show
Danimal said on 27/Jun/07
JT, why don't you addess LV's points?
Jason said on 27/Jun/07
Hmmm, I believe Snitsky is 6'4'', but Heidenreich didn't seem as tall in person. He wasn't much taller than Booker T watching them wrestle in person.
Viper said on 27/Jun/07
Salley looks 6-10 max, not 6-11.
anonymous said on 27/Jun/07
big shows forehead looks about 2 inches higher imo, big show looks taller next to rodman imo.
Vegas said on 27/Jun/07
arjun how much taller in your opinion are 6'11 listed john salley
Click Here and Olden Polynice
Click Here than rodman because its got to be alot less than 4". arjun we also cannot compare a few photos of wight and rodman to a barefoot sumo staredown which is a much better estimate of height than any picture shown from here on until this website closes imo.
Click Here Heidenreich is slightly taller than 6'4-6'5 snitsky so 6'5 is probably his legit height. its funny most former nfl guys such as ernie ladd, steve mcmichael, droz etc were listed at their nfl heights in wrestling, prob same with heidenrich.
JT said on 27/Jun/07
Good point Vegas. Also, if your friend is 6
Jason said on 26/Jun/07
Click HereActually 6'5'' 275lbs. Someone's copied the older bio onto their web page there.
Arjun said on 26/Jun/07
Vegas, there is 3.5 inches tops between the top of Rodman's cap and the top of Show's head. I don't know, is the cap giving Rodman a full 1.5 inches extra height? Like you said, close to 1" but 1.5 inches is pushing it - so let's say 3/4". The absolute max Show has on Rodman is 4.5 inches, more like 4 - 4.25 IMO, but let's just say 4.5. Also remember that Rodman has converse, which give him about 1/2" less height than Show's dress shoes - so the real difference is 4 inches tops, more like 3 inches and change. I cannot see Show at any taller than 6'11", as he has the 6'7" tops Rodman by no more than 4 inches. Yet I believe Rodman is at least a little above 6'6", like 6'6.5", so Show having 3 inches and change on him would put him at 6'10" minimum. 6'10" minimum to 6'11" max for Show looks ok to me.
As for Akebono, Show had him by a good 4 inches barefoot while he has 6'7" tops Rodman by no more than 4 inches barefoot. So Akebono is 6'7" at best, maybe 6'6.5" - very near in height to Rodman.
Jason said on 26/Jun/07
They had Heidenreich as 6'5'' 285lbs on wwe.com in 2005. Though I don't doubt they upped it to 6'7''. I can't tell much from the Salley/Shaq pic ... Shaq is behind him and we're looking up.
Alex said on 26/Jun/07
Vegas, nice picture. Probably could be 5 inches between Show and Rodman.
LV said on 26/Jun/07
JT, why have you never done a measurement on Andre's head? Again, to prove that you can be unbiased, do one and post it on his page. I don't agree that Show's has an enormous forehead, but he does have a receding hairline, a problem Andre and Khali don't/didn't have. Andre, in particular, had a very low hair line, making his forehead appear relatively small in comparison to his head size. Right before Andre died, he had the same amount of height on the 6'7" Baba that Show had on Rodman. Most will agree Andre was at least an inch shorter (and probably more) at this point in his life than he was as a young man, but still could tower over Baba and was taller then Tyler Mane.
Vegas said on 26/Jun/07
JT one thing i noticed about this pic
Click Here is how much higher the cap is sitting on top of rodmans head as compared to the pic with salley. that cap is probably giving him close to 1" extra height and is putting off alot of people. take the cap off rodman and put it on show and there would be people claiming 6" between the two i think
This picture here shows a clear 5" between show and rodman
Click Here it also proves that akebono is a legit 6'7 as show was no taller next to him than he was next to rodman.
for those saying show is just 6'9 or 6'10 in those pictures, then salley and Polynice are no more than 6'8.5 max so next to rodman.
here is a pic of salley next to shaq, not the best but there is no way shaq is 3-4" taller than salley imo
Click Here
Vegas said on 26/Jun/07
The WWE listed Heidenreich at 6'7 not 6'5. He claims 6'6 himself on his myspace; though i think he is 6'5 legit
Jordan said on 26/Jun/07
Click HereHe has 4 inches on Rodeman
Vegas said on 26/Jun/07
the 6'5 poster brad has met both jordan and rodman up close and he claims jordan is 6'5 and rodman is a weak 6'7. i have been reading alot of Brads posts and he is not one to overestimate it seems. here is the link
Click Herebtw jason, rob has rodman at 6'6.5 or 199cm probably because he is not sure which of the claimed figures (6'6 or 6'7) is correct
Jason said on 26/Jun/07
It depends how tall the b-ballers are. Some say
Michael Jordan's only a flat 6'4'', though I think he's 6'4 1/2''. Jordan has a very small head which makes the rest of him longer.
Arjun said on 25/Jun/07
JT, ultimately it all boils down to how high Rodman's skull top is under that cap. I really don't see a full 5 inches between the two, even accounting for Show's huge forehead - his forehead alone would have to be nearly 2" longer than Rodman's for this to be the case. 4 yes, maybe 4.25 ish inches at a stretch, but not 5. I also calculated that there is around 3.5 inches difference from the top of Rodman's cap to the top of Big Show's head. Is that cap giving him more than 1/2" - 3/4" - I doubt it. Also remember that Rodman has converse, which give around 1/2" - 3/4" less height than Show's dress shoes. Still, Show is bare minimum 6'10" and very possibly upto 6'11" - as I do believe that Rodman is at least a little taller than 6'6" - like around 6'6 1/2" - he looked at least that compared to Jordan and other basketballers. He could well be upto a full 6'7".
Jason said on 25/Jun/07
Heidenreich 6'6''? WWE *billed* him as 6'5''.
Alex said on 25/Jun/07
Big Show's eye level is 5.5.5 inches from the top of his head and Rodman is at the top of Show's eyes/just under eyebrows making the difference at least 4-4.5 inches. Rodman could be 6'6.5 but more likely 6'6 so Show looks in between 6'10 and 6'11 there.
JT said on 25/Jun/07
IIRC, Vegas said his 6
anonymous said on 25/Jun/07
if show is only 6'6" then kane is 6,2" lol!!
anonymous said on 25/Jun/07
i see 4 inches between rodman and show, not 5 inches.rodman 6'7" and show 6'11".to be 7'0" show just needs to but on a good pair of boots.
Arjun said on 25/Jun/07
JT, I do see about 4 inches between Show and Rodman, but not over that - I think the top of Rodman's head is almost to the top of that cap .... take for example Rodman's ears are about a full ear length (almost exactly 3 inches) below Show's. Show's forehead can't really be more than one full inch longer
than Rodman's, can it? One inch is a massive difference when it comes to forehead length - it's like a foot difference in total height.
Viper, yes, only in the first pic posted do I see 3 inches. But Rodman is a little closer to the camera, plus the photographer is standing very close to the two men. In the pics Vegas provided (the ones you are referring to) there is indeed about 4 inches difference - and Show does have a little advantage in footwear.
Jason said on 25/Jun/07
Da Man says on 24/Jun/07
''So Jason claimed he saw a 6-6 Big Show. Sorry for misrepresenting your Big Show estimate by 1 inch, Jason.''
It was two ... and I said he *appeared* 6'7'' but my estimate is 6'8''. You should have quit while you were behind. ;)
Big Show said on 25/Jun/07
If I remember it correctly Jason back then thought Show looked 6'8 and his father thought he was 6'7. It was a different poster who claimed Big Show was 6'5/6'6. I believe he never posted again (he's probably locked back up in the asylum from which he escaped ;) ).
Rodman has a big head for his size. If you look at the picture of him and Salley, Rodman clearly has a longer head than Salley. Of course Rodman's head looks small compared to that of Big Show.
Rodman's height is as controversial as that of Big Show and Andre the Giant. To me Rodman always looked much taller than 6'6. Hogan was still a good 6'4 in his
WCW days and Rodman sure was more than 2 inches taller than him. If Rodman is 6'6, than
Michael Jordan is max 6'4. Rodman probably doesn't know or care about his own height. When he was on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno back in 1997 he said Big Show (at that point he and Hogan were feuding with The Giant and Lex Luger) was 7'2 and he himself was only 6'6.
lillo thomas said on 24/Jun/07
those pics put big show at 6-10 if denis rodman is 6-7 but now i think that denis rodman is really closer to 6-7 than 6-6
Arjun said on 24/Jun/07
Vegas, actually Jason thought 6'7 1/2" - 6'9" for Show , I remember those figures clearly. He said that the most he could feasibly see Show at was 6'9". I don't think he said 6'6". Anyhow 6'8" - 6'9" is still just too low for Show. If Rodman is say 6'6.5", then Show is still at least 6'10" as he has Rodman by around 4 inches (not 5 though) in most of the pics. In the one where he has only 3 inches on him, Rodman is closer to the camera, you can tell by how big his head looks (nearly as big as Show's, and we know that Rodman's head is a good deal smaller than Show's. Rodman's head is probably 10 inches or so, average for a 6'7" guy, while Show's is an easy 12 inches.) So Show does have about 4 inches on Rodman, but that is with a footwear advantage of 1/2" or so, as Rodman has converse while Show appears to have standard dress shoes. Still, the bare minimum for Show is 6'10", and maybe upto a full 6'11", though no more as Rodman is nothing over 6'7" flat. I think it is fair enough to put Show at 6'10" minimum , 6'11" max.
Jason said on 24/Jun/07
Arjun says on 24/Jun/07
''Danimal, it is a very bad habit of mine and I really need to quell it :)
Anyhow, in the other pics which Vegas posted, Show looks to have a good bit of height over Rodman (upto 4 inches if Rodman's cap is giving him a 1/2" or so ) That looks more like what I would expect - If Show is 3.5 - 4 inches taller than Rodman, then that puts him at near 6'11" if Rodman is 6'7" - but wait, as Editor Rob said, Rodman is wearing converse, so an easy 1/2" less than Show's shoes there. I still think Show could well be upto 6'11", but I ain't ruling out an even 6'10" either. But there is still no way that there is 5 inches between Show and Rodman, even in these other pics. John Salley is closer to 6'10" IMO, as Shaq who is 7'0" has around 2 inches on him. Show is taller than 6'7" (obviously :) but shorter than 7'0" - I concur with Viper that he's 6'10" - 6'11".
Jason, if Rodman is a little over 6'6", I could still see Show at 6'10", even after you take off his footwear advantage. I can now see why he looked only 6'8" to you (with bad posture) - a 6'10" guy can give a 6'8" impression, a 7'0" guy can't (not to someone like you at least who is quite good at estimating heights in general)''
Maybe you'll convert me to a 6'10'' Big Show yet. :D