Canson said on 17/Nov/20
@Editor Rob: what was Barkley stored at in the 1992 database? Likely 6’4 5/8?
Editor Rob
Unknown...the journalist in his article had looked up Jordan on the Olympic database and seen 6ft 4 3/4 and reported it as such. It's hard to argue with giving Jordan that mark.
Arguably the 3 GOAT's were all within a small fraction, Barkley, Kobe and Jordan.
Canson said on 12/Nov/20
@Vincent Caleb: yea somewhere between 194-195 peak fits
Vincent Caleb said on 11/Nov/20
@JD1996:
I don’t blame you. His height is wacky. One moment he is shorter than Jordan the other moment he is edging him by inches. I still think 6’4 5/8” is a good call.
Niels said on 9/Nov/20
Charles Barkley must always have been at least somewhere in between 194,5 cm and 195 cm barefoot. Inch measurements are naturally inexact measurements.
I doubt he is 193 (6,4).
With shoes he was about 197 cm.
We could also debate about MJs hight. In my point of view: 195,3 cm.
JD1996 said on 8/Nov/20
He can look anywhere from 6’4” to 6’6” can’t make an accurate estimate on him in truth so I won’t put a guess as I’m not sure at all
Canson said on 5/Nov/20
He needs a downgrade especially when the highest (exact number) he’s ever claimed was 6’4.75”. 6’5 was him rounding up but he’s also claimed 6’4 1/2” and was measured 6’4 5/8”. The previous listing is about as high as anyone could ever argue (6’4.75)
Canson said on 31/Oct/20
Pretty clear Gronk is taller than Barkley in the first pic being he’s leaning over and his shoulders still look as high if not higher.
Canson said on 30/Oct/20
@Vincent: yea peak id say the same that below 6’4.5 was extreme low territory. He could’ve been 6’4 5/8 even. Today 193-194 imho for 1/4” loss or 3/8” loss
Vincent Caleb said on 30/Oct/20
@Canson-Anything less than 6-4.5 is an extreme low for Barkley. Imo he would have a better chance at a full 195 than Jordan who I have at 6-4.5. Barkley can look 6-6 sometimes due to posture and footwear, but with a recent pick with Conan he looked at most an inch taller. He may have lost a quarter inch of height from surgery. Average guess is ridiculous, though I understand why it is like that.
Canson said on 27/Oct/20
@Vincent: and we’re also not sure if that was even a low for him in his prime although I would be hard pressed to see less than 6’4.5”. But he is known to wear some very thick and puffy footwear on occasion which makes him appear taller from what has been said. If we look at him with 6’7” (peak) Clark Kellogg in recent years, Barkley looks around 6’4” or a hair over now
Vincent Caleb said on 25/Oct/20
6’4 5/8” is what he measured so that’s how tall he is. I can see how ha can look taller but if you get measured at the nba it is a legit measurement.
Canson said on 19/Oct/20
@Niels: based on the two I know of for Magic and Barkley (they’re the only two on record), they appear to be barefoot. They’re 6’9 and 6’6” listings are their listed heights (with shoes and rounded up more than likely$
Niels said on 18/Oct/20
Question:
When we talk about the measurements at the Olympic games, were the players heights incicated as barefoot measurements?
Canson said on 17/Oct/20
@RJT: agreed. And Ainge says it here as does Dan Majerle. I’ll say 6’4 5/8 best case for afternoon height but maybe 6’4.5”.
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RJT said on 17/Oct/20
@Canson @Editor Rob
Found this conversation, you should add it to the quote list Rob
When Barkley was with the Suns he was doing an interview and the interviewer asked him how tall he was and he said 6'6". It just so happened Danny Ainge was passing by and heard the conversation.
Ainge: "Dog, you ain't 6'6". I"m 6'4" and you're only a little bit taller than me.
Barkley (just smiles)
Ainge: "Stand up, dog!'
Sure enough, Barkley was only a smidge taller.
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Therefore 6'4 5/8" or 6'4 3/4" on good day.
If anything, that makes what Barkley accomplished all the more amazing considering he consistently grabbed over 10 rebounds in all but rookie year.
Canson said on 14/Oct/20
@Fried Chicken: yea my guess is 6’4 5/8 peak and 6’4.25 today tops
FriedChicken said on 12/Oct/20
After seeing the Draymond comparison, i think Barkley isn't over 6'4.5 today. Plus in the Kelogg video he even seems a flat 6'4". When you're overweight, in your 50s, and had hip surgery you're going to be shorter than what you used to be. I would've propose to a peak/current listing for him but it'd be strange since we have men in their 70s and 80s like Bill Russel and Kareem who don't have a current listing.
Peak: 6'4 5/8, maybe 3/4
Currently: 6'4 1/4 or 6'4.5 still over a flat 193 cm, maybe he'd hit that low in his early 60s.
Hyper said on 12/Oct/20
He doesn't look any taller than Pete Holmes.
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and Conan literally jumped with Pete. Even after that, he forced his posture up, yet he's still shorter than Pete.
Canson said on 11/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: here Chick Hearn says you’re not 6’6, you’re not even 6’5 to which Barkley responds “I’m almost 6’5”
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Yeah it's been mentioned before, but he does consider himself 6ft 5...even if he measured under it a little.
Canson said on 11/Oct/20
@Fried Chicken: but he Had aged when he stood next to Kobe. At his peak height i would still say Kobe was taller but not by anything really noticeable if he himself was 6’4.75”. Now I can believe today he’s only 6’4 or a hair over seeing the video with Clark Kellogg and the comparison below with he and Draymond Green with Conan. imho best case he’s my height today and peak height 6’4.5 afternoon or 6’4 5/8 best case
FriedChicken said on 10/Oct/20
Don't forget the time where he was also shorter than Kobe. He shouldn't have gotten the upgrade. If anything 6'4 5/8 is the way to go.
Canson said on 10/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: same here. That with the Clark Kellogg video Show Barkley is over listed
Canson said on 8/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: how much difference do you see between Barkley and Draymond next to Conan? It’s evident Draymond is taller than Barkley there
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Seems at least an inch
Canson said on 2/Oct/20
@Fried Chicken: that’s an instance where Barkley likely didn’t wear enhanced footwear. You can see he looks shorter next to Conan all things considered than Draymond Green does. Conan is learning with Draymond too. Draymond is what Rob lists him which is how he looks with Paul Pogba. Worst case he’s 6’5” Flat or a hair over. Conan looks max 6’3.5” with both and he looked max that with Kobe. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 during his career and always looked around that height or perhaps 6’4.5” when in normal footwear
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Canson said on 27/Sep/20
@Editor Rob: it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re the same. He called Jordan 6’4 range Like he was and also 6’6” and that he was taller than him. Best cases peak Barkley 194 Jordan 195, or both 6’4.5 range
Editor Rob
Barkley once claimed Jordan was 6ft 6 and taller than himself.
FriedChicken said on 25/Sep/20
Didn't Barkley say Jordan was a little taller than him as well?
Editor Rob
yeah I remember Barkley saying it.
Canson said on 25/Sep/20
TheDon1528 said on 24/Sep/20
around 6'4.5"
Yes
TheDon1528 said on 24/Sep/20
around 6'4.5"
FriedChicken said on 23/Sep/20
The full 6 ft 5 i can not see. 6'4 3/4 Kobe Bryant edged him out. And the fact that Barkley's 3 barefoot measurment were all different supports the fact that they were taken during 3 different times, and his highest measurment, 6'4 7/8 is most likely earlier in the day with 6'4 3/4 or 6'4 5/8 being afternoon.
Canson said on 21/Sep/20
I don’t get it. Rob has mentioned the mugshot before. I don’t see why we are still discussing it in trying to make him taller but the same person(s) bringing it up swore in the past that Barkley was 6’5.5 and downplayed his height. In other words not very credible
Canson said on 16/Sep/20
viper said on 15/Sep/20
The Kellogg video is really a middle finger to people who think Barkley is over 6-5 lol
Yea and Now you’re gonna hear how he “shrunk over an inch”. He was always 6’4-6’5. But To be fair, the solid 6’5” guesses aren’t terrible but he measured 6’4 5/8”. Over 6’5 is ridiculous. He didn’t shrink much he wears thick footwear imho. If anything maybe he lost a fraction
viper said on 15/Sep/20
The Kellogg video is really a middle finger to people who think Barkley is over 6-5 lol
Nik said on 14/Sep/20
It's interesting that he is listed in good old eighths!
Canson said on 14/Sep/20
@Editor Rob: he may have lost a small fraction but he was never as tall as he’s listed here
Canson said on 14/Sep/20
@Editor Rob: I agree on Kellogg. But Barkley I doubt is 195cm. I’d give him maybe 194 today
Editor Rob
Barkley is reaching an age at which a little height loss might be knocking at the door.
If Chuck was a wrestler he'd be 6ft 2.5 today.
Canson said on 13/Sep/20
Sorry Kellogg is listed at 6’7” too. That’s believable for a barefoot height and 6’8 with shoes. Barkley isn’t over 6’4” next to him if he’s 6’7”.
Canson said on 13/Sep/20
@Editor Rob:
How much height difference do you see between Clark Kellog and Barkley? Kellog was only listed at 6’8” meaning he likely is that with shoes on max. Kellog is also aged
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Looked at worse 6ft 7 there with Chuck
Paul Feasal said on 12/Sep/20
So if Barkley is really 6’4and a half or taller then why is the Rock listed so tall on this. Barkley clearly has at least 4 inches on Johnson. Johnson looked more like 6 feet at tops when he was in a photo with him, Barkley and Shaq. The Rock was to Shaq’s shoulders while Shaq was bent over.
Niels said on 29/Aug/20
I think there's always a difficulty within the height measurements in feet and inches though.
When Charles came out of college his height was at least 195,8 cm barefoot. So a flat 6 feet 5 inches guy.
Count now a good pair of basketball shoes heightening about 1 inch. In shoes 6 feet 6 inches.
This today's height is not relevant anymore/ anyway. I assume 194,5 cm
Canson said on 20/Aug/20
@Fried Chicken: not only that but this is how the camera can influence a person’s perception of height.
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Pippen Also clearly had a minimum of 2” on Barkley in their primes. I’m not sure how tall Pippen actually is. My guess is 6’6.5 ish. Either way, I’m inclined to believe Barkley’s 6’4 5/8” being it was valid and being I know people who have met Barkley they all say he’s max 6’5, 6’4 1/2 or that he’s about my height (I’m 6’4.25). About my height could mean he’s 1/4” taller.
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FriedChicken said on 19/Aug/20
Yeah we didn't say he was a flat 6'4".
Canson said on 18/Aug/20
Pippen is slouching and Barkley is favored by the camera. Pippen has at least two inches on him. Not to mention Pippen looks under 6’7” next to Magic. Barkley wouldn’t have been 3” shorter in their primes even if Pippen were 6’7” flat. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8” at the olympics and was said to be 6’4 1/2” by many people. He wasn’t a flat 6’4” then
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Pdoggy said on 17/Aug/20
I do not see a 3in difference between Pippen and Barkley they seem to both have the same posture. Pippen has hair Barkley doesn't. If anything that pic proves he is taller than 6'4.
Canson said on 14/Aug/20
@Editor Rob:
Definitive proof that Barkley was never over 6’4 5/8” that he measured. He looks closer to 6’4” today honestly
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would have been interesting if a short 5ft 6-7 guy was in that photo as reference...the way it's taken you'd never think those guys were as tall as they really are.
Canson said on 10/Aug/20
FriedChicken said on 8/Aug/20
Is it possible Barkley lost a fraction? I don't want to come off as like rude or anything but he has gained a bit of weight compared to when he played Basketball, plus he has had hip surgery and is in his 50's. Someone in
Michael Jordan's shape will retain their height throughout age far better than someone like Barkley.
It definitely is. And that’s not rude what you said with regards To his physique today because it’s true. But he also had a hip replacement so it’s possible. But if he’s lost anything it would be 1cm maybe. 194-195 peak and 193-194 maybe
FriedChicken said on 8/Aug/20
Is it possible Barkley lost a fraction? I don't want to come off as like rude or anything but he has gained a bit of weight compared to when he played Basketball, plus he has had hip surgery and is in his 50's. Someone in
Michael Jordan's shape will retain their height throughout age far better than someone like Barkley.
Canson said on 31/Jul/20
FriedChicken said on 29/Jul/20
Not sure how i feel about Barkley listed as taller than Kobe. Maybe the 5/8 - 3/4 - 7/8 measurments were both at different times which explains the fluctuations
I look at the measurements for Jordan and Barkley and don’t see them as afternoon. More specifically for Jordan. Barkley at 5/8” peak I could see close to a low. I think he was exactly 6’4.5” afternoon height and Jordan about the same. Kobe on the other hand I see as an afternoon height and he would Possibly be 6’5.5” out of bed. I believe Kobe was the tallest of the 3
FriedChicken said on 29/Jul/20
Not sure how i feel about Barkley listed as taller than Kobe. Maybe the 5/8 - 3/4 - 7/8 measurments were both at different times which explains the fluctuations
Pdoggy said on 22/Jul/20
Charles is taller than too many people who were in the six four and six five category.
Conan
Jordan
Kobe
Ainge
His own mugshot he is at least 6'6".
He consistently comes out at 6'6"
Canson said on 17/Jul/20
Pdoggy said on 11/Jul/20
Please also remember that his accomplishments as a basketball player are more impressive if he claimed a lower height than a higher height.
They measured him at 6’4 5/8. He claims 6’5 pretty often along with 6’4”. So he’s not off by much. He isn’t taller than he was measured and in fairness he can round down if these guys who measure 6’4 out of bed and 6’3.25 afternoon height can round up or even claim their shoes
Pdoggy said on 11/Jul/20
Please also remember that his accomplishments as a basketball player are more impressive if he claimed a lower height than a higher height.
Canson said on 9/Jul/20
Conan is 6’3.5
Canson said on 9/Jul/20
Pdoggy said on 7/Jul/20
Danny Ainge is 6'5" range and is definitely shorter than Charles. They played on the Suns together. Every pic together Charles is obviously taller.
Ainge by his own admission is Only 6’4”. The NBA listed him at 6’4” at times. They never list you at a barefoot height so no He is not 6’5”. And yes Barkley is taller but not by much. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8” so that adds up
Pdoggy said on 7/Jul/20
Conan edges Kevin Nealon and Charles is obviously taller than Conan.
Pdoggy said on 7/Jul/20
Danny Ainge is 6'5" range and is definitely shorter than Charles. They played on the Suns together. Every pic together Charles is obviously taller.
184guy2 said on 5/Jul/20
Kevin Nealon was an LEGIT 6'4
Taller than Conan
Canson said on 3/Jul/20
Ainge refers to him as 6’4” range again here
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Pdoggy said on 30/Jun/20
Sorry on Norm Macdonald I picked the wrong name for the SNL actor. I meant Kevin Nealon.
Canson said on 29/Jun/20
Garrett is not 6’8.5”. He is listed 6’8” here and likely has lost height.
Canson said on 29/Jun/20
Pdoggy said on 26/Jun/20
Here's what I would say as well about Charles height just look at the pics with him and Brad Garrett. There are good pics with him and Brad Garrett at a poker tournament Brad Garrett is wearing cowboy boots with good sized heels Barkley looks all of 6 7 with him in the picture. Garrett's height is 6"8.5 barefoot.
There are many other pics with other celebrities that over 6'4 as well that he is significantly taller than but pics can be deceiving. However most of the time he is a few inches taller.
Examples
The Rock 6'3
Conan 6'4
Norm Mcdonald 6'3
Ben Affleck 6'3
Etc.
None of those guys is as tall as you say they are.
The Rock is listed 6’2.5. He is more 6’2” Flat
Affleck is listed as 6’2,25 here. He looks Max 6’2 with Caron Butler
Conan is more 6’3.5”
McDonald is listed at 6’1.5”. Don’t know how you guessed him at 6’3”.
With that said you overestimate Barkley because you have everyone else overlisted. Barkley is only about an inch taller than Conan if even that today.
Pdoggy said on 26/Jun/20
Here's what I would say as well about Charles height just look at the pics with him and Brad Garrett. There are good pics with him and Brad Garrett at a poker tournament Brad Garrett is wearing cowboy boots with good sized heels Barkley looks all of 6 7 with him in the picture. Garrett's height is 6"8.5 barefoot.
There are many other pics with other celebrities that over 6'4 as well that he is significantly taller than but pics can be deceiving. However most of the time he is a few inches taller.
Examples
The Rock 6'3
Conan 6'4
Norm Mcdonald 6'3
Ben Affleck 6'3
Etc.
184guy2 said on 24/Jun/20
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Barkley looks easily the taller individual and shaq makes him look a child , don't think under 7' is possible
Pdoggy said on 22/Jun/20
Please also remember that his accomplishments as a basketball player or more impressive if he claimed a lower height than a higher height.
Pdoggy said on 22/Jun/20
In the early 90s Barkley was very trim his head was no where near as fat as it is now. Again look at the top of his head the actual Peak it comes to a point not flat not round very much comes across as six-foot-six at that point in time.
What is very frustrating is that so many posters want to reference shoulder height or eye level the only thing that matters is what someone measures to the top of their head that's it.
Canson said on 12/Jun/20
Tunman said on 3/Jun/20
Tiger's claim is quite funny.This guy is over 6'5 on a good day and just under at the end of the day but it shows how listings are just ridiculous in sports.
He measured 6’4 5/8 so maybe 6’5 on a good day
Tunman said on 3/Jun/20
Tiger's claim is quite funny.This guy is over 6'5 on a good day and just under at the end of the day but it shows how listings are just ridiculous in sports.
FriedChicken said on 12/May/20
6'4.75 is pretty spot on. Edges out legit 193 cm people but i believe Jordan still has him by a cm.
Canson said on 3/May/20
@Duhon: I’ve seen the one that Rob posted once where they knocked two inches off everyone’s heights. That one I don’t believe because Barkley and Jordan aren’t 6’4” flat and Pippen isn’t 6’5 Bird isn’t 6’7”. But Then I’ve seen where they specifically said that they measured some players and that Barkley was one of ones who volunteered to be measured and that is where the 6’4 5/8 or closer to 6’4 5/8 comes from. Magic supposedly was another who measured. Now
Michael Jordan. I’m not sure where his 6’4 7/8 came from. It’s possible there at the Olympics too. Unfortunately nothing is concrete but the measurements for all three guys seem to add up to what they’ve been attributed. I do think that if Barkley measured that height that it was his peak afternoon height. He wasn’t a flat 6’4” but a minimum 6’4.5 guy which was how Moses Malone Danny Ainge and Dan Majerle also described him. Now I will say Barkley’s eye level may have led to some thinking he was only 6’3” range or 6’4 flat but a weak 6’5 range 6’4.5-.75 I could believe.
Duhon said on 2/May/20
@ Canason does anyone have citations or links for these Olympic measurements? That 1992 roster in current sources seems to be all listed with their NBA heights as have been the subsequent Men's basketball team's sent to the Olympics. I think the Olympics has almost always just gone with reported heights. Usain Bolt is probably not exactly 6'5" but that's what he gets listed at by the Olympics.
Shinbats said on 30/Apr/20
He definitely doesn’t inflate his height. He’s always noticeably taller than 6’3”-6’4” guys. He’s had a hip replacement as well. Id say 6’4.75” is the right measurement for him.
Canson said on 5/Mar/20
He should to be downgraded back to 6’4 3/4, one of his claims; or 6’4 5/8, his Olympic measurement.
Erik Hna said on 27/Feb/20
In a mugshot pic Charles Barkley looks like he's between 6'7 and 6'8. Taking a Inch or a Inch and a half away from the shoes, I'd say he's 6'6 or atleast 6'5.5
Canson said on 30/Jan/20
The listings here are a bit off for Jordan Kobe and Barkley. Barkley was not as tall as Kobe even peak height. Kobe at 195 cm Barkley 194.5 Jordan between 194-195
184guy2 said on 21/Jan/20
Steve Harvey and 6'5.25 listed Brock O'hurn:
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Canson said on 11/Dec/19
6’3.75 is too low. Minimum today is 6’4” still. Likely over that mark by a hair still
Canson said on 22/Nov/19
@Shane: maybe I was wrong with max. I would guess him as a solid 6’3” though. Meaning a guy like you said near 6’4 out of bed 6’3.75 and 6’3 at a low
Shane said on 21/Nov/19
@Canson I rarely disagree with you but i have to disagree with you calling Silver 6'3" max. In all his nba draft photos he has towered players who measured 6'1" to 6'2" barefoot and usually those are early morning. Hes looked taller than most guys who measured 6'3". I'm confident that Silver measures at or very near 6'4" barefoot early in day and never falls below a strong 6'3".
Canson said on 16/Nov/19
@Junior: I don’t trust the mugshot though. I believe 6’4.5 because others have said the same around him. 6’4 5/8 is what he measured
Editor Rob
The fact Barkley was looking downwards towards a camera tells everybody the mugshot adds height. Only if it was at the top of his head would it be accurate.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 15/Nov/19
@Canson I don't trust those mess up description of Barkley's height, too much of version all in between from 6'4 up to 6'6 and Tiger Woods even call him 6'4 on a good day pal that is so wrong when Barkley easily had Tiger over 5" make a shame of 5'11 Tiger out of 6'4 good day Barkley. LOL.
Mugshots/celebrity/sports/charles-barkley-91" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Click Here a mugshot of Barkley stand stick to wall facing front right at 6'7 which prove him isn't under 6'6.25" barefoot that i can even buy him 6'5. So 6'4 3/4 absolute low is probably hardly missed. 6'4 1/2 sound too low for him and from the past sometimes he even look taller than Jordan and next to Hakeen he doesn't look below 6'5. Losing height now is still a myth on Barkley, he just doesn't look any shorter than those guys listed 6'5-6'5.25" by Rob.
Canson said on 5/Nov/19
@Dream: Barkley even at his peak was shorter. He measured 6’4 5/8. That may have been his low maybe not but if not maybe6’4.5 was. That’s how he was described as 6’4 1/2 when he played. Wlad was over 6’5” at a low
Dream said on 3/Nov/19
He looks shorter than Wladimir Klitschko
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Canson said on 24/Oct/19
Barkley with 6’3 max Adam Silver.
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Canson said on 20/Oct/19
Agree with Viper and that was his peak height 6’4 5/8 tops
Roderick said on 20/Oct/19
What he measures is hard to guess but somewhere in the 6'4"-6'5" range is all accurate enough IMO
Nik Ashton said on 19/Oct/19
It’s great his height is listed in eighths!
Duhon said on 18/Oct/19
I can believe 6'4 7/8" but I'd be surprised if he didn't walk around at over 6'5" depending the time of day.
Nik said on 6/Oct/19
This sports writer knows his stuff!
Canson said on 26/Sep/19
@Shane: Cooley did say that he hung out with Sir Charles and that he was only “about an inch taller than he is. These days I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Barkley dipped from the height he was (6’4.5 ish) to around my height which is not much considering his weight and also his health with hip replacements
Canson said on 26/Sep/19
@Shane: he was saying that they make up measurements at times too. I assume he meant for his that it was 1/2” more than his normal measurement as he has always claimed 6’3” when I’ve heard him talk. I vaguely remember one measurement for him being a flat 6’3” I believe. A buddy of mine met him and he said Cooley is the exact same height as he is at 6’3” (6’2 7/8 these days at 60 some odd years old). 1/8” isn’t noticeable. But you’re observant! The half to me would also mean morning measurement. But I’ve met Vernon Davis (6’3.25 combine) and while he still looked around 6’3” in person, that’s the absolute most. Maybe something like 6’2.75 and maybe had slight footwear adv that I didn’t realize. Or is 6’2 7/8 at a low and that would make it tougher. I guessed prob 1-1.5” between us tho. Then again this was years ago. Davis is taller than Rock lol and he claims 6’5”. The same 6’2 7/8 buddy met Rock and said he wasn’t more than 6’2” barefoot. Said about 1” between them. He may have still measured 6’3” flat when he met him too as he was full 6’3” when we all measured back in 2016 I think
Shane Gray said on 26/Sep/19
@Canson: regarding the Dooley radio show and the combine adding a half inch, was he just referencing a morning measurement or was he saying they add a half inch to people's measurements?
Canson said on 9/Sep/19
Questioner said on 7/Sep/19
@canson im saying maybe a teammate was for example 6'5.25" and just went with 5 as a comparison to barkeley and that could potentially skew it the only reason I mentioned the extreme low thing is I know some people at the olympics get measured after competing and that could increase the chances of either hitting an extreme low or compressing your spine in a way where its hard to fully extend and get the most out of a measurement. I dont know it seems like your against that possibility .75 would make sense with pretty much all of his measurements
Magic also got measured and was what he usually is. I doubt either one of them is measured at an extreme low. As for the teammates, if it were one then maybe. Several of them said the same thing though so I don’t believe that to be the case
Questioner said on 7/Sep/19
@canson im saying maybe a teammate was for example 6'5.25" and just went with 5 as a comparison to barkeley and that could potentially skew it the only reason I mentioned the extreme low thing is I know some people at the olympics get measured after competing and that could increase the chances of either hitting an extreme low or compressing your spine in a way where its hard to fully extend and get the most out of a measurement. I dont know it seems like your against that possibility .75 would make sense with pretty much all of his measurements
Canson said on 4/Sep/19
Questioner said on 3/Sep/19
@canson here is a 1993 pic and these are the thickest shoes ive found him wearing in 1993 Click Here
I dont know dude maybe his teammates were discounting potential fractions from their height and used that as a comparison for barkley.
I’m not seeing how they discounted potential fractions though. They spent a considerable amount of time around him so they had an idea of how tall he was. While I don’t think he was 6’4” flat, 6’4.5” possibly or 6’4 5/8” and they rounded down
Questioner said on 3/Sep/19
@canson here is a 1993 pic and these are the thickest shoes ive found him wearing in 1993
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I dont know dude maybe his teammates were discounting potential fractions from their height and used that as a comparison for barkley.
Questioner said on 2/Sep/19
@canson I did explain a potential reason he might have measured that Im just saying dont discount the possibility for 4.75
Canson said on 2/Sep/19
Questioner said on 1/Sep/19
@canson
@christian
the original reason I made that comment is because I was just curious if he was measured before or after a potential workout. I could be wrong though. also you can still get guessed at 6'4" at the .75 mark especially if you have a footwear disadvantage. I dont know I just dont think you guys should discount the possibility he was .75 at his peak though I think we can agree hes not 6'5" plus like others say
I think it’s far less likely that he would be guessed 6’4” as regularly as he does if he’s 6’4.75” at a low. I’m typically guessed taller than I am. Usually 6’5” especially if I’m in a pair of thicker sneaks 1.25” where I end up around 6’5.5” this despite only being 6’4.25” in reality. His teammates also say he’s closer to 6’4” such as Moses Malone Dan Majerle etc and his coach said he’s under 6’5”. As for footwear disadvantage, I often see Barkley wearing thicker footwear than others in pics
Canson said on 2/Sep/19
@Junior: Barkley can look taller often to tell you the truth. But he did only measure 6’4 5/8” during his career
Questioner said on 1/Sep/19
@canson
@christian
the original reason I made that comment is because I was just curious if he was measured before or after a potential workout. I could be wrong though. also you can still get guessed at 6'4" at the .75 mark especially if you have a footwear disadvantage. I dont know I just dont think you guys should discount the possibility he was .75 at his peak though I think we can agree hes not 6'5" plus like others say
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Christian: I think Jordan if Rob doesn’t believe the 6’4.5 should give him 6’4 7/8 since that is at least something he did measure along the way
@Rob: I think he rounded down to 6’4.5. Vanessa said she measured him at 6’4.75
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 23/Aug/19
I don't bother people think Barkley is below 6'4 3/4, i still see him as a solid 195cm guy and he can pull off 197cm with Jimmy Fallon and Gabrielle Reece in the past.
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
And here his former coach with the Sixers says that he’s under 6’5” at 17:39. He’s likely not more than 6’4.5 peak
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Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Christian: It would not surprise me at all if that wasn’t even a low for Barkley in his prime. I don’t know if it’s his footwear that he wears but people who met him in his prime guessed him as 6’4” at times. My guess is peak height was a low to mid 194 range right around 6’4.5”. Maybe he lost an inch with all of his weight and was a little less but he honestly looked short for a power forward on the court. I’ve watched him play up close when I was younger and saw him from a pretty good distance in philly before and didn’t get the impression that he was anything close to 6’6”.
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 22/Aug/19
@Rob
If you're gonna put Barkley at 6'4 7/8", then you might as well put Jordan at 6'4 7/8" as well, since he was measured at that. There's no way that Kobe's only 6'4.75" yet Jordan's a full 6'5". The latter's definitely not 1/4" taller than the former.
Editor Rob
Well Kobe seems to even think he's 6ft 4.5, so he's already getting a 1/4 inch upgrade 😋 3/8ths is pushing it 😮
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Aug/19
@Questioner
Even if his 6'4 5/8" measurement was taken when he was at his extreme low (which I doubt), his normal low would been no more than about 6'4 7/8" or at most 6'5".
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Questioner: the 6’4 5/8 more closely aligns with what former players (opponents) and teammates have described. Dan Majerle is an example then Joe Klein Moses Malone. In addition, Chris Webber was 6’8/6’9 barefoot and he looks 4” taller. I’ve always suspected Webber was around that being he wasn’t any taller than Peja Stojakovic and was said to be that by Mo Cheeks when he played. Also Spencer Haywood commented that he wasn’t as tall as he expected him to be when he met him. And also to add, I doubt an Olympic measurement is at an extreme low. It’s probably closer to a “normal” low than a combine measurement. Notice I said normal low because the two are different. “Normal” means the height someone would measure on a normal day whereas an extreme low is not something you hit every day. Prime example I’m 195.7cm out of bed on normal sleep or 195.5 on less or 195.9 on extended which is a touch over 6’5”. At a normal low I’m only 193.8 or even a mm or two less (6’4.25) on a day when I hit the gym or if I am on my feet more that day. However, my extreme low is more like 193.1 which is essentially a solid 6’4”. Meaning I would lose 3/4” or 2cm most days whereas at an extreme low which would be after being on my feet all day I’m an inch shorter at a solid 6’4”.
As for Barkley, knowing people who have met him, their estimates agree more with the Olympic measurement and some even say he’s closer to 6’4” than 6’5”. The best case was one guy who was a scout and met him in his prime and another guy who met him with the Rockets and golfed with him as well as a former boss that I worked for. The former was 6’2” and said Barkley was 6’4/6’5 best. The others said 6’4 and 6’4/6’5. I’ve only heard one person say they thought he was 6’5” in person and that was from a 5’7” guy that met him and wouldn’t be able to tell as easily as the others were all well over 6’0” tall 6’2-6’5”
Questioner said on 19/Aug/19
@canson I am very surprised no one has mentioned this. I do think the 6'4 &5/8" measurement is real but ive always wondered 2 things 1. the less important thing did he have imperfect posture when measuring its happened to me in the doctor and when I asked to remeasure I got half an inch 2. if he measured at the Olympics is it possible it was an extreme low maybe he did a heavy workout and not only was at his low but his back could have had the sort of compression that would have made his spine a bit improper and hard to stand at max potential I dont know
Canson said on 27/Jul/19
That 6’4 7/8 is no more “official” than 6’4 5/8 at the Olympics. If people think he’s 6’4 when they meet him, I doubt 6’4 7/8. 6’4 5/8 at a low is the most he was at his peak. But of course, in an attempt to keep the other overlisted celebs and athletes the height they’re listed, “there is no proof of his 6’4 5/8 measurement”
Canson said on 25/Jul/19
I think 6’2 is best case for Rock 6’4 1/2 for Barkley
Punjabaprizonmatch00 said on 24/Jul/19
Barkley is half a head taller than the rock that’s at least 3 inches. Probably 3.5” inches taller than Rock. I think Barkley is 6’5” and The Rock is 6’1.5”-6’1.75”
Roderick said on 18/Jul/19
Honestly Im not gonna sit here and pretend that Barkley didn't make The Rock look 6'1" but Barkleys mugshot showed him at 6'6" which is a shoe height. Barkley had a footwear advantage over the Rock in those pics.
6'2" vs 6'4 7/8"
Canson said on 2/Jul/19
@Junior: footwear is similar with them but Barkley may wear an orthotic in the picture like you said. So 188 and 194-195 still isn’t impossible
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 30/Jun/19
@Canson It's easier you can suspect 194.6cm Barkley wear orthotics given 6mm with solid 3cm shoes on and The Rock had just solid 3cm shoes to make that 7cm.
Canson said on 27/Jun/19
@Space: I’m wondering because Ndamukong Suh measured in at 6’3 7/8 at the combine which equates to an afternoon height of 6’3.5 and he also looked 2” taller than the Rock but both that pic with Suh and Rock and Conan and Rock could be favoring the other two and may just be 1.5”. I have Barkley an inch taller than both of those guys
Canson said on 26/Jun/19
@Junior: but Barkley only measured 6’4 5/8 in his prime and not sure if that was even a low. Danny Ainge said that Barkley was 6’4.5 and Dan Majerle said he’s maybe 6’5 probably 6’4 which means 6’4 and change. I think Barkley has some advantage possibly with posture as a 6’2” Rock with a 6’4.5ish guy (current) would be a bit less but we see how Rock stacks up to Shaq too
Space said on 26/Jun/19
The fact that Conan O’Brien gets edged out by 6’4” guys just adds to my point that The Rock is not even 6’2” because there’s a good 2” height difference between a 6’3.5” Conan and The Rock...
Also when I said 5” difference between Barkley and The Rock it’s because The Rock looks puny next to Barkley. If we are very specific, there’s a solid 3.5” height difference between 6’4 5/8” Barkley and The Rock. This puts The Rock at 6’1 1/8” next to Barkley.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 25/Jun/19
There is like 7cm between The Rock and Barkley. If The Rock is 6'2.5" now would make Barkley 6'5.25" when it is impossible then The Rock would be 6'2 and Barkley stay on 6'4.75" but some thinks that Barkley is ridiculous low at 6'4.5" then Rock is 6'1.75". For me i wouldn't go under 6'4.75" yet. Maybe a few years later it could happen but not now.
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Space said on 25/Jun/19
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In the picture above:
- Even if 6’4 5/8” Barkley is only 3” taller than The Rock, that would put The Rock at 6’1 5/8”. However, I think Barkley looks more like 3.5” inches taller in the picture which puts the Rock at slightly over 6’1”...
Canson said on 22/Jun/19
Barkley is not 5” taller. That’s about a 3” difference in that pic assuming both are standing straight
Space said on 19/Jun/19
Barkley looked 5” inches taller than a weak 6’2” Dwayne Johnson. So either Barkley is 6’7” or the Rock is 6’1” max...
Canson said on 16/Jun/19
@Junior: I have him at 6’3 and Barkley 6’4.5 unless there is footwear advantage. For the record he never claimed 6’4 5/8. He measured that
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 12/Jun/19
@Danimal 5'9 3/4" Barkley had 1.5-1.75" on a current 6'3.5" Seagal. 6'5.25" is max not 6'5.5" and we don't know if Barkley had more shoe advantage than Seagal. There are too many version of height claim from CB himself like 6'4 5/8, 6'4 3/4, 6'5, 6'5.5". For me i can go with 6'5 and i think Seagal is only 6'3.25".
Canson said on 12/Jun/19
@Danimal: I don’t understand why you believe Conan when he says that he was 6’4.5 but you don’t believe a very specific measurement of 6’4 5/8 for Barkley. Conan was never measured officially so if anything he could be claiming his shoes. And Seagal has lost height when he measured with barkley. He was not 6’4”. Rob even guessed him less and he is only about an inch shorter or 3CM less than Barkley. Seems like you pick and choose what you want to believe. Barkley was only about an inch taller than a peak 6’3.5 Conan
Canson said on 12/Jun/19
@Danimal: I don’t understand why you believe Conan when he says that he was 6’4.5 but you don’t believe a very specific measurement of 6’4 5/8. Seagal has lost height when he measured with barkley. He was not 6’4”. Rob even guessed him less and he is only about an inch shorter or 3CM less than Barkley.
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 12/Jun/19
Barkley was at least 6'5.5". He had too much height on Steven Seagal to be only 6'4 5/8" or 6'4 7/8":
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Canson said on 2/Jun/19
@Junior: Reggie Miller said he’s 6’5/6’6 before and that Ron Artest was his height. My guess for Miller is 197cm range peak (weak 6’6). He would prob edge MWP out by a hair
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 29/May/19
Reggie Miller must be solid 198cm.
Miiiiiiighty_- said on 23/May/19
For what it's worth, here in France he was always listed at 194cm during his heydays ( 90's )
Canson said on 11/May/19
@Viper: i heard Chris Cooley on his radio show this week I believe say that he hangs out with Barkley and that Barkley is about an inch taller than he is. Cooley always says he’s 6’3” and has even mentioned that the combine adds 1/2” to people’s heights before.
Canson said on 10/May/19
@Sotiris: DDP isn’t standing straight
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/May/19
@Canson Here's an interesting pic of Barkley w/ DDP in their prime...
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DDP and Jake "The Snake" Roberts in their prime...
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Canson said on 2/May/19
@Sotiris: Omar May even be a bit over 6’5” and Lewis no guarantee that was even his low but close enough. I don’t see him below maybe 6’4.5 or 5/8, but that’s exactly what I’ve been saying all along about Barkley. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 when he played so I don’t understand how he is taller than he measured. Lewis is slightly taller than Barkley is today and while I can’t see Watt’s footwear, Barkley appears to have thick shoes in that pic and still isn’t as tall as Watt (a morning measured 6’5 3/8). It wouldn’t surprise me at all having had hip replacement and being 56 years old and obese if Barkley is only my height today 193-194 and peak 194-195. It’s very silly and foolish on this site why people try to upgrade celebrities. People are seriously saying that he was taller than a peak Hogan? I don’t put a 1970s Hogan under 6’5 yet Barkley has never measured a full 6’5. He’s claimed 6’4.75 6’4.5 and has - 6’4 1/2 and 6’4 5/8 and a supposed 6’4 7/8 which I’ve only seen on this site and not so sure it’s even a real measurement. Numerous people I’ve heard met him say he’s 6’4 or at most 6’4-6’5
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/May/19
Barkley and Lennox Lewis (6'4.75" peak height) in 2016...
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W/ 6'5" Omar Benson Miller...
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W/ 6'5" JJ Watt (and Reggie Miller) in 2015...
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Canson said on 1/May/19
The 6’4 7/8 is no more official than 6’4 5/8 that he measured in 1992. In fact that may be the same measurement with a number (7 instead of 5) that was mistaken. A 6’4 7/8 guy at a low won’t get mistaken for being only 6’4” by other basketball players who are close in height with him that he spends a lot of time around.
Canson said on 20/Apr/19
@Viper: I am still not convinced about the 6’4 7/8 for him. There is no “official measurement for that one”. And yep i am saying it because of all of the excuses that we see on this page about 6’4 5/8 not being official yet he did measure that at the Olympics. He said himself below that he was about 6’4.75 when Chick Hearn says he wasn’t 6’5” so it’s likelier that 6’4 5/8 was the measurement. To my knowledge, Jordan had that measurement at some point (likely at UNC or early morning some other time). Barkley was 6’4 5/8. In his prime he was likely Max 6’4.5 but I’ve seen and heard people who have met him that have said he’s closer to 6’4 so I don’t see anything more than 6’4.5. Now it’s possible he loses an inch throughout the day with his weight etc
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viper said on 20/Apr/19
Canson, I thought the Martin twins were 6-6 until I saw they were measured at
6-4.75 last year. That really surprised me.
They look wayyyy taller than Barkley physically.
Canson said on 19/Apr/19
@Viper: I don’t see any reference to 6’4 7/8 other than the magazine article that Rob used. That is not an official measurement and could even be the 6’4 5/8 with a mistake on the fraction. Of course, people argue against the measurement at the Olympics just because the 6’4 7/8 says “Official” on it which is BS and you know it as well just that everyone wants Barkley to be taller than he really is. We both know if a guy is 6’4 7/8 at a low that he would always be guessed 6’5 not 6’4/6’5 like you indicated as well. And to date, the NBA does not measure to the 1/8” (1/8 increments). Barkley states that he is about 6’4 3/4” most places. I do see what you’re saying as they could be different times of the day but I’d be more willing to say that 6’4.75 was his combine or even 6’4 5/8 and he rounded up and that 6’4.5 could even be his low.
viper said on 18/Apr/19
Rock can look 6-1 a lot.
He's 6-2
Editor Rob
Rock is 6ft 6 according to
This guy last year...the Rock approves of such an inflated estimate 😆
viper said on 18/Apr/19
Barkley was measured at 6-4 7/8 and
6-4 5/8.
People say he looks 6-4-6-5. Makes perfect sense to me with those 2 measurements
viper said on 18/Apr/19
Think he's 6-4.5
Flair could be barefoot
Johan 185 cm said on 18/Apr/19
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Anyless than Rob's listing just seems completely unlikely.
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Flair is listed at 5'9".
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6 inches shorter than Shaq and makes dwayne look small. He sometimes walks/stands funny does this guy wear lifts?
Click Here here looks shorter, 7 inches difference. 6'5" on the nose.I won't argue with 7/8s though, noone is seeing that difference Rob :)
Canson said on 17/Apr/19
@Johan: but Stratham was inflated. They wouldn’t deflate an athlete’s measurement. That 6’4 5/8 was very specific barefoot.
@Viper: that’s correct
viper said on 16/Apr/19
Sorry Johan, you're wrong again.
People say he looks 6-4 to 6-5 in person.
Johan 185 cm said on 15/Apr/19
Canson said on 15/Apr/19
@Johan: he was measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics and according to most people who’ve met him in person he’s 6’4-6’5
Jason Statham was listed at 5'11" during his swimming career. I don't have much respect for their "measurements".
Canson said on 15/Apr/19
@Johan: he was measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics and according to most people who’ve met him in person he’s 6’4-6’5
Johan 185 cm said on 13/Apr/19
I am starting to believe that Barkley is
trolling people with his height claims. I just saw a pic from a few years ago and he was at least 10 inches taller than a 5'9" listed Ric Flair.
Maybe there was some height gained because of a taller photographer but I don't believe that this guy is anywhere near 6'4" flat or even 6'4.5"
More like a big 6'5" guy when standing tall, this is one guy I would love to see get measured.
Canson said on 2/Apr/19
It’s hard to tell just from that clip. When two people are within an inch of each other in a video where they are moving around either guy could appear taller. In some pics Rodman appears to be taller however
Height said on 1/Apr/19
Looks the same, and sometimes taller than Rodman:
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Canson said on 25/Mar/19
Mason looks roughly the same height as Larry Johnson who in person looked 196 range.
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Canson said on 25/Mar/19
Mason was described as 6’5-6’6” at several points during his career by commentators and teammates. He also was not as tall as Carmelo Anthony. And to say that he and Rice are exact is hard to do when the difference is around 1/2” or 2cm possibly because There is no good pic of them standing back to back or beside one another. You would have a hard time seeing it otherwise. If we are talking about A 199ish Rice, then Mason being 197 is not unfathomable since something as low as 2cm difference can really go in either guy’s favor unless you have pics of them back to back or a good one of them right next to each other
Canson said on 24/Mar/19
@Height: sorry but did you really just say that 99% of my pics are bad? Go look at your pictures below that you posted on Larry bird’s page and Barkley’s. They’re beyond atrocious and your pic with Smith isn’t far behind. Everything you just said about me is exactly what you do in reality. Nothing I’ve posted is even in the same basement as those pics. You went on to say that Bird was around an inch taller than Grant based on that picture. I critiqued the pic with Smith because it is not a good pic. That’s just telling the truth.
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Height said on 23/Mar/19
Talking about garbage: that's about 99% of the pics you use to prove your points.
Mason is the virtually the same height as Glen Rice.
Canson said on 23/Mar/19
@Height: I didn’t mean for my first comment today to come out the way it did. I apologize for my tone
Canson said on 22/Mar/19
@Height: if you judge players at the free throw line like that it does no good. I still remember you used a similar pic with Horace Grant and Larry Bird once to prove Bird was taller. The pic with Smith and Grant is as inconclusive as the one you posted on Bird’s page. Bird looks about 6-7” taller than Grant when they were really about the same height.
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Canson said on 22/Mar/19
@Height: I’m not going to bother to comment on the picture because it’s garbage. Nobody can tell who is taller from that. As far as Mason, he is not 6’6.25-.5. He’s at absolute most 6’6 perhaps more like 6’5-6’6” barefoot.
viper said on 22/Mar/19
The Martin twins only measured 6-4.75.
That's shocking to me. They look taller.
Canson said on 22/Mar/19
That’s assuming Kidd is 189-190. He may be 6’2”. Look at Gary Payton to the other end and Payton is taller. As for Mullin and Barkley, they look about the same in that picture when you widen it. Just as Jordan and Mullin do
Height said on 21/Mar/19
Your way off, Mason is is 6'6.25"-6'6.5" range (pretty much the same as Glen Rice).
Smith is 6'10", see how he edges Horace Grant:
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Canson said on 21/Mar/19
Here’s a picture with 6’5-6’6 Anthony Mason, 6’2” John Starks. Charles Smith is not 6’10” barefoot next to those two.
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Height said on 21/Mar/19
Taller than Mullin:
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Even with Kidd (189cm-190cm)slightly in front of him, Richmond still edges him by at least 3cm:
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Canson said on 20/Mar/19
@Height: Manning is 6’9” range. Maybe he’s a fraction over but 6’9” is what he measured out of college. He was also listed 6’9” at the olympics. Looking at Manning with Barkley, that honestly could look more. I simply went eyebrow level but Manning has his forehead tilted. His head looks longer than average. Seeing them play in a video just now, I put the difference 4.5-5” between them. Manning was not as tall as Kevin Willis and Willis was 6’10” barefoot
Canson said on 20/Mar/19
@Height: Manning is 6’9”. That’s what he measured out of college. Charles Smith is also 6’9” barefoot and 6’10” in shoes
Height said on 20/Mar/19
Canson, Danny Manning if not a legit 6'10" guy, he's very close to it. He's very similar in height as Charles Smith. Check out videos/photos of him next to the likes Smith o Hot Rod Williams who are legit 6'10" guys.
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Canson said on 20/Mar/19
I don’t know for Richmond. Just because it says that he is 6’4” does not mean he is. As Rob has mentioned, height varies throughout the day. So it’s possible Richmond is only 6’3.5 as well. Sprewell and Mullin May have an inch but it could only be half. Or Richmond could’ve been rounded up to 6’4” from that figure. Either way, Barkley’s 6’4 5/8 is more precise and believable. Yes, It’s possible Mullin is the full 6’5” and there is a possibility that Mullin and Jordan are the same height at 6’4.5. But Barkley and Jordan are also the same height as Jordan has also acknowledged before. Maybe they’re 1/8 apart 6’4 5/8 vs 6’4.5 as the measurements suggested, but that’s still the same height because they’re pretty much the same. None of us here, no matter how hard we try, can see 1/8” difference between two people. It’s hard to see anything less than about 1/3” honestly. 1/4” is possible but the pic has to be flawless or the person judging must be right in front of the two standing back to back and it has to be literally clear cut meaning no hair on head barefoot, etc. as for Sprewell, he said in a quote when he played for the Knicks in response to Rick Pitino calling him 6’6” (exaggerating his height after the Knicks beat them in either 98 or 99) “I’m 6’4, I appreciate the extra inches”. He didn’t need them on Sunday as the Knicks came out victorious. Having seen Sprewell next to other players that’s how tall he looks on the court with other knicks such as Houston and LJ when they played. Houston measured 6’4.75 in reality and looks exactly that next to Carmelo Anthony who is close enough to his pre draft measurement in person. Best case 6’6.25 worst solid 6’6”. Houston was taller than Sprewell.
As for Barkley being taller than Mullin, is he really? I don’t know. In the same picture, Magic Johnson who Rob lists 6’7.5 is also 3.5” taller than Barkley. That part of the picture was, of course, not addressed and probably won’t be addressed on this page because it proves that Barkley really only is what people say he is. He measured 6’4 5/8 at some point in the day so he’s not taller than that measurement as it occurred at 29 years old for the Olympics so it was done by a professional. Barkley was also already well on his way to a hall of fame career in 92 having played 8 years in the league so he would not have needed a boost to his stats like players at the pre draft or combine may receive. It’s likely that that is his honest measurement. As Well, people already knew at that point around the league, based on common sense, how tall he actually was barefoot. They knew he wasn’t 6’6” or even 6’5” by then so 6’4 5/8 was not much of a surprise to anyone. The only real argument on Celebheights is was that measurement his low for the day? since this site uses afternoon heights or is supposed to be based on that. As for the pic with Mullin, it could be that those standing further back may have an advantage. if Mullin is shorter than Barkley then He may be shorter. But it also means that Magic is 3.5” taller than Barkley in the same pic so if Rob lists him 6’7.5 then Barkley should be listed no higher than 6’4”. If we want to accept that Mullin is shorter than barkley then we would have to accept that 6’7.5 (if that’s his actual low for the day) Magic Johnson is over 3” taller than Barkley. Or it could be that Mullin is actually taller than Barkley or his height and that Barkley is gaining advantage since Magic’s advantage on him is more pronounced because of all of that. But We can’t just pick and choose and use one scenario out of the pic and dismiss the rest of it that doesn’t help the case we are trying to present
Height said on 19/Mar/19
Mullin is taller than Jordan, not by much but taller indeed. I am not quite sure about Sprewell's height, or what picture did you look at, but Mullin was always 1 inch taller than 6'4" Mitch Richmond:
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Canson said on 19/Mar/19
@Viper: agreed. the same people make the same type of excuses. It’s always that Barkley downplayed his height for better perception or to make his accomplishments better or that others such as Majerle and Ainge and Joe Klein Chick Hearn
Michael Jordan etc have all said that he’s that height range and are “conspiring”. That’s ridiculous. Then of course the pictures always favor Barkley. Hate to say it but the ones where he looks around his height are the better pics because that’s what he actually is.
It’s similar to kevin Durant. Likely is 6’9” or a hair over but is said to be 6’11”. He’s probably not even a full 6’11” in shoes an hour out of bed. Barkley was probably not a solid 6’4” peak but prob 6’4.5ish at a low and rounded down to 6’4”.
6’9” Danny Manning and Barkley that’s over 4” between them. Barkley was likely 6’4.5 peak at a low or at absolute best his Olympic measurement 6’4 5/8 peak which is a valid measurement but the “excuse” is always “that measurement never occurred” lol
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Canson said on 19/Mar/19
@Viper: agreed. the same people make the same type of excuses. It’s always that Barkley downplayed his height for better perception or to make his accomplishments better or that others such as Majerle and Ainge and Joe Klein etc have all said that he’s that height range. It’s similar to kevin Durant. Likely is 6’9” or a hair over but is said to be 6’11”. He’s probably not even a full 6’11” in shoes an hour out of bed. Barkley was probably not a solid 6’4” peak but prob 6’4.5ish at a low and rounded down to 6’4”.
Height said on 19/Mar/19
At the beginning of the video, the guy hugging him at his left is Ceballos.
Canson said on 18/Mar/19
Mullin only has 6’4” Latrell Sprewell by around half inch and is around the same size as 6’4.5
Michael Jordan. He could be 6’5” possibly but the pic appears off. Not to mention, look who is standing right behind Barkley. 6’7” range Magic Johnson who also appears Around 3.5” taller than he is. Magic could make Barkley look under 6’4” which we know that he isn’t. If Barkley really is taller than Mullin and Magic is even the height he’s listed here 6’7.5, it means both guys are max 6’4 and a weak 6’4”
Canson said on 18/Mar/19
Mullin only has 6’4” Latrell Sprewell by around half inch and is the same size as 6’4.5
Michael Jordan
Canson said on 18/Mar/19
While I don’t see him next to ceballos at all, He’s def an inch shorter than 196-197 Dan Majerle in the same clip.
viper said on 18/Mar/19
If he was 6-6, why would he get mentioned at 6-4 so much, by people saying he looked it.
Not the people trying to make his stats seem more impressive.
He's certainly shorter than 6-6. Dan Majerle played with him for years and says 6-4-6-5.
Height said on 17/Mar/19
At the beginning of this video he's basically the same or at worst fractionally shorter than Cedric Ceballos who is 197cm-198cm range:
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Height said on 15/Mar/19
Slightly taller than 6'5" Mullin:
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Pdoggy said on 15/Mar/19
Canson your points are certainly valid however I disagree. With that pointed head he certainly could be 6'6.
Canson said on 14/Mar/19
@Pdoggy: so you’re saying that because you “believe” Barkley downplayed his height that he’s the one lying about being 6’4.5 yet Harvey is 6’2”? Doesn’t work that way. Someone isn’t going to downplay their height by that much and get away without someone calling them out for all of these years. And Barkley would’ve been listed higher than 6’6” if he were more than 6’5”. Harvey can’t be 6’2” with Snoop Dogg. Even with the angle here, it’s obvious Harvey is looking up at Snoop. Aside from that the video where they stood right next to each other it’s close to 4” difference. Also Rob rarely will underlist a celebrity. And not be 1.5”. If anything Harvey is over-listed today as he may have lost height.
Barkley however says above he measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics. That’s close enough to 6’4 1/2 and who is to say someone at that size doesn’t lose 1/8” from the time of day they measured and drop to 6’4.5 later in the day.
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Pdoggy said on 13/Mar/19
Canson in Barkley's case he is someone who looks more impressive with his feats of rebounding and scoring by downgrading his own height to make his stats appear more unbelievable.
I do agree that if he himself stated he was under 6 foot 5 then we should believe that more so than anything else however he looks more impressive with what he did on the court at a shorter height rather than a taller height we are all obsessed with thinking that people make themselves taller by stating they're such a height rather than looking at the reasons behind why they State their heights to be. Different motivations in this case. Also he was always overweight so he lumbered around a lot he was much thinner in the early 90s when he was able to stand up straight and went to the NBA finals against Jordan.
Canson said on 12/Mar/19
Snoop Dogg with Steve Harvey
Even using Rob’s 6’3.75 listing for Snoop (despite Kobe being over 1” taller than him and Magic close to 4” taller) Snoop still has more than just 1.75” on Steve Harvey. Harvey struggles at 6’0” today. Snoop typically looks 6’3.5 Harvey could be 5’11.5 or 6
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Canson said on 12/Mar/19
6’3.5 Snoop Dogg with Steve Harvey
Even using Rob’s 6’3.75 listing for Snoop (despite Kobe being over 1” taller than him and Magic close to 4” taller) Snoop still has more than just 1.75” on Steve Harvey. Harvey struggles at 6’0” today
Canson said on 12/Mar/19
@Pdoggy: But Barkley has also stated before that he’s 6’4.5 and others around the league as well. I don’t see how Harvey’s saying that he is 6’2” carries more weight than Barkley saying his own height especially when he was already measured 6’4 5/8. Not to mention that Harvey doesn’t look anything close to his listing with a 6’3.5 Snoop Dogg. I see what you’re saying in terms of what he said she said but that means that if Rob said to Jensen Ackles that he himself is 5’10.5 that Jensen would have to be 6’2.5 at that stage when he’s clearly not. Rob is 5’8 and Jensen 6’0”.
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Pdoggy said on 12/Mar/19
Canson
I am stating that Steve Harvey said he was that tall. Like I said Barkley is easily 6'6 there.
Canson said on 10/Mar/19
@Pdoggy: Harvey was peak 6’0.5. Today likely 6’0” max. Maybe 5’11.5 next to Snoop. How is Barkley 6’6?
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 8/Mar/19
Barkley easily had 3" on 6'3 claim Gabrielle Reece. Truth is Barkley is 6'6 with shoes and Reece is probably 6'3 with shoes and barely 6'2. I recall few years ago Reece was on Dr Oz show barefoot in few seconds scene and look an inch taller than Dr Oz with shoes on which he is 6'1 max w shoes. Barkley is not under 195cm with Reece. We don't have to agree 6'4-6'4 1/2 what people think. For me Barkley is still 6'4.75" whether he lose height now is a myth.
Pdoggy said on 6/Mar/19
Now after watching the Family Feud video I posted with Charles and 6'2" Steve Harvey how tall is Charles again?? Easily 6'6.
Canson said on 27/Feb/19
@Viper: he’s probably 6’4” and change peak but you saw how nobody challenged him being listed that low? They know he’s somewhere in the 6’4” range not 6’6” like he was listed. And for Zion, Kenny even said I don’t know if Zion is really 6’7”. Likely the two are Less than an inch apart. I doubt Zion is much more than 6’5” barefoot
viper said on 27/Feb/19
Artis Gilmore is a giant
viper said on 27/Feb/19
They list Barkley at 6-4 in this video.
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Canson said on 21/Feb/19
@Sotiris: that’s not good for determining the difference. I don’t know if Barry is really only 6’4 today nor do I believe he’s shorter than Barkley either. I think a peak Moses Malone was 6’9” or 6’9” range. Malone even called Barkley 6’4 as did Dr J. Of course tho people here use the pic with Dr J and don’t take into account that in a different pic with Dr j and Barkley that Doc was clearly physically taller at his peak than Barkley. Barkley was no higher than his Olympic measurement. Only debate is whether he was less as he measured in that zone more than two times
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Feb/19
Here's current height 6'4" Rick Barry next to a height-loss Moses Malone (passed away in 2015). Reggie Theus looks to be around 6'4" now (down from 6'5.25") and Artis Gilmore still looks huge (2015):
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Barry and Barkley (2015)...
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Moses Malone and Barkley back in the day...
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Artis Gilmore, Magic, and Barry in 2019...
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Canson said on 14/Feb/19
If Moses is 6’10” then Barkley must be 5-6” shorter. He called Barkley 6’4”.
Height said on 14/Feb/19
@Rising Moses was a legit 6'10"
Canson said on 31/Dec/18
@Pdoggy: he measured 6’4 5/8 barefoot. If he were 6’6” he would be listed 6’7 or 6’8”
Pdoggy said on 30/Dec/18
I know Charles said he was six four and a half in that clip but he probably is until he gets to that point on his head which gives him more like a 6-6. His records are more impressive the shorter he is. Keep that in mind.
Canson said on 22/Dec/18
@Rising: my bad I didn’t post it before
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Canson said on 21/Dec/18
@Rising: but you said something very key there. If someone measures 5/8” they can go either way. Barkley did in fact measure 6’4 5/8. And we also don’t know what time of the day that he did. That, presumably is near a low at his peak, but I don’t rule out 6’4 1/2 either. Remember, he claimed 6’4 3/4 at least twice. One in the TNT late night video where EJ references Conan and he compares him to Chuck and also the video with Chick Hearn. He also claimed 6’4 1/2 when he was on the Jason richardson dunk contest video below after Danny Ainge says that J Rich is Barkley’s size. He also has the 5/8” measurement in there. Kenny Smith also called him 6’4.5 in the one video and Viper posted where it says that he was measured 6’4.5. Now I do agree partially with some of what you’re saying in that he can look taller than his listing at times because he does. However, even if 6’4 7/8 was his combine measurement which seems odd because the NBA never lists with 1/8” increments, then 6’4 5/8 is very realistic at a low since the combine is almost never at a low. A 6’4 7/8 combine measurement earlier in the day would yield a 6’4 5/8 measurement at some point later that day so it really isn’t far fetched and is very likely based on those who have met him. As far as those who have commented on his height, people who I know who’ve personally met him or people that have commented on the internet or those who played with or coached him have all said (for the most) that he’s 6’4-6’5. I’ve never heard 6’5+ from anyone in fact. I’ve even heard 6’4” from some so I’m not sure if maybe he gives that off or what but I wouldn’t guess him that low. I have him 6’4-6’5 and likely mid range or a hair above like 5/8 tops. As far as downplay, I think with Jordan that was silly on Barkley’s part to say that because not only does nobody believe he’s that much shorter than Mike but most know Jordan isn’t 6’6” too. There is a possibility Jordan could be a small fraction taller although I think it will vary based on what time of the day each is around the other. Jordan wouldn’t he 6’6” if Barkley is only 6’4 5/8. I would leave the door open for a peak 6’4.5-.75 for MJ but I think the most would be something like 6’4.6 at a low similar to the measurement Barkley got. I know with George Gervin in the video I posted Jordan looks significantly shorter at times but then 2-3 at other times which wherein lies the difference imho. I have Gervin 6’7 and MJ 6’4.5. Gervin went as far as to say that he’s 6’8” and Jordan 6’4-6’5 before as well. The latter I do believe the former I do not and think that was him saying why he would beat Jordan one on one
Rising - 174 cm said on 21/Dec/18
@Canson: As you know, the absolute lowest I'd personally guess Barkley at is that 6'4.75"-6'5" range or what Rob has him so imo, that's too tall to say 6'4" without being misleading. It'd be the same thing as Melo saying 6'7" or Caron Butler saying 6'6" since they're equally far apart from those numbers as say Kobe is from 6'4". If you're at the half inch then I'd say ok, you can go either way. Even if you're at say 5/8" and you really want to claim the lower number then I'll say ok, though if someone claiming an honest height is 5/8" shorter then you'd mention the fraction. You may be right that more have guessed Barkley 6'4"-6'5" than 6'5"+, but then I think a higher percentage who guess the former will remark and comment on it than the latter since Barkley being close to what he's listed wouldn't really be news. Based on the visual evidence I'd still guess 6'5.25"-6'5.5", but I'm not disregarding the anecdotal evidence altogether since that's why I keep open a good possibility of about Rob's listing. Either way, I consider him saying 6'4" downplaying, especially saying it in the same sentence he calls Jordan 6'6". Like I said, we can argue on the definition of downplaying in general, but there's no doubt he downplayed himself compared to Jordan because you and I both agree there's not an inch difference let alone two so claiming Jordan's NBA height or height in shoes at the same time is what I'm mostly talking about whether or not Barkley did or didn't downplay himself in a vacuum.
As for Ray, I agree he looks below 6'5" with Rashard Lewis and there are other times I think he might be just 6'4", but there's quite a few times he looks 6'5". Much more than I realized actually. I mean he didn't look that much shorter than Reggie at his HOF induction either from what I can tell. Ray is one of the strangest NBA heights to me.
Canson said on 18/Dec/18
@Rising: the only time I know of Charles claiming 6’6” was when he was in Phoenix and Danny Ainge was standing nearby and corrected him. He said Barkley was at most 1/2” taller. My definition of weak 6’5 is kinda like 6’4.5-6’5 or 6’4.5-.75. I think once a person is really over maybe 6’4.75 or 6’4.8 maybe that they are close enough to solid. If anything 6’4 7/8-6’5 1/8. I would have Barkley and Jordan really both in the weak 6’5” 6’4.5-.75 at lows peak. Jordan I agree on. I can see the two measuring close but MJ being 6’4.5 at a low meaning 6’5.25 out of bed. If Barkley varies more it’s probably just by another 1/8” or 1/4” I doubt any more than that. Barkley could be 6’5.5 out of bed and 6’4.5 at a low or he could just be 6’5 1/4 and 6’4.5 or 6’5 3/8 and 6’4 5/8. Most who have met Barkley that I’ve seen have said he’s eother 6’4-6’5 or 6’4” and a few 6’5. Then the outliers. One of my contractors that supports us one day told me that Charles Barkley it’s known in Philly is “under 6’4”. That’s taking it far and that’s downplaying it there but don’t believe that saying 6’4” is since he fits In that range even if not flat
I’m not sure about Ray. I would’ve had him as tall as Kobe or Jordan in pics. But see him with others and he looks shorter such as Rashard Lewis. He looks more like 192-193 tops. I would put him at 6’3.75 personally and 6’5” in shoes. The best case imho is 6’4” flat
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Dec/18
@Canson: I really don't know about Ray anymore. Sometimes I thought about 6'4", but he looked 6'5" with Bosh recently, looked at least as tall as Rip there, didn't look shorter than Michael Redd and towered Denzel in He Got Game. As you know, I have Barkley taller and Jordan and still can't see anything below that 6'4.75"-6'5" range at any time of the day, that's what I mean by weak 6'5". I can't rule it out because there's a good amount of anecdotal evidence pointing to that 6'4.75"-6'5" range, but he still looks a lot more like a solid 6'5" or 6'5.25"-6'5.5" guy to me. I do agree he could lose more considering his weight and knee/black problems. Though some of it is just genetic and height loss varies among all sorts of heights/body types so I suppose all we can do is say all other things being equal, Barkley probably shrinks a bit more in a day than Jordan does. This could also go to explain at least a small part of Barkley's apparently varying height. Jordan did get into weight training in the early 90's so maybe he'd lose a bit more on days he lifted and trained hard. I think anything between 6'4.5"-6'5" is possible for Jordan. I think of him as more a weak 6'5" than strong 6'4", though and 6'6" in basketball shoes. 6'4.5" would be the lowest I could see him measuring. Kobe's claims are sort of different in that you have the 6'4" and 6'5" in sneakers quotes where I think he's only half serious, then you have the 6'5" claim on Leno, which is probably more serious and precise by normal non-NBA standards and then you have the 6'6" and 6'7" where he's probably just repeating his NBA listing as many do. I think he liked the 6'6" because it was the same as Jordan's listing, but he may have measured 6'6" in shoes and then been told he looked like he grew, hence the 6'7" claim/listings, or it may have been the mini fro since the time frame works. His wife's measurement isn't really Kobe's claim since he's never mentioned it as far as I know. Barkley is a little different since we have 6'4", 6'4.5"(?), 6'4.75", 6'5", 6'5.25"(apparently both barefoot and in sneakers at different times), 6'5.5" and 6'5.75"(apparently joking). Kobe has never been precise like that since it's always round numbers and at least two of them matched his NBA listing while I don't know if Barkley has ever claimed 6'6".
Canson said on 11/Dec/18
My estimate for Ray Allen is 192-193 barefoot and 6’5 with b-ball shoes. Around 6’3.75 barefoot but no lower. He’s easily over 6’4 imho when he wakes up
Canson said on 11/Dec/18
@Rising: yea I’ve never had Barkley as low as 6’4” flat but a weak 6’5 is precise for him at his peak imho. A weak 6’5 to me constitutes 6’4.5-.75 range. I’d give the benefit of the doubt at 6’4.5 if it’s a normal low. I have Jordan the same height. Maybe it wasn’t a flat 6’4.5 but somewhere between 4.5-.4.75. 4.5 could be lows on the day for both guys and 6’5.25 out of bed. Although for some reason I could see Barkley losing more than Jordan based on body types so Barkley may wake up taller. Jordan is lanky imho. Long legs. But this is all speculation on my part
Canson said on 10/Dec/18
@Christian: we could see on kobe’s page that he’s claimrd different heights. He claimed 6’5” on Jay leno then 6’6” and 6’7” as Rob pointed out. This is in addition to him claiming 6’4 and 6’5 in sneaks then the official measurement of 6’4.75 and him saying 6’4.5 as well once. That’s not any different from Barkley’s widespread claims
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Dec/18
And Billups might not be above 189 cm. Not sure about a flat 6'2" yet, but Ben Wallace could be tough to compare back when he had the afro. Sheed supposedly measured 6'9.75" and he does look that tall, imo. I know Rip had earlier 6'6" listings so we know he's not taller than that and my impression was more in the 6'5" range. I don't know whether he's 6'5" flat or 6'5" and change, but I think he was slightly taller than Kobe as well, but judging by Rip with Ray Allen, he might not be above 6'5" flat:
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Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Dec/18
@Christian: I wouldn't call that quote an example of Barkley being honest because at minimum he's downplaying himself compared to Jordan by implying a 2" difference. Granted, I'll concede it's possible for someone to be truthful about someone else's height while lying about their own, but I'll certainly be less confident in their accuracy.
@Canson: Yes, but then I'm guessing more like 4.5" between them than just 4". If Moses was only 6'9" then Barkley as 6'4" range to weak 6'5" works, but as far as I know, Moses never admitted that himself and if he was 6'9" then Dr. J looked under 6'5.5" himself with Moses:
Click Here That's more than 3.5" even before considering the pic looks to be tilted in Dr. J's favor. As for Ainge, I see more than just a half inch difference in that picture. I think he'd be under 6'4" if Barkley is what Rob lists him. The '93 all-star pic is the only pic I've seen for where Barkley and Majerle are side by side equal distance from the camera and I can't see Barkley any shorter there. His eye level is no shorter, neither is the top of his head and his chin is a little higher. Majerle has a significant camera advantage in that recent pic, which is why his head looks abnormally large and why he's almost as tall as Magic. Barkley's chin is actually slightly higher there:
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Click Here I haven't seen anything to conclude Majerle is taller than Barkley myself, but if Majerle is 6'5" flat then I can at least see the 6'4.75"-6'5" as more plausible. However, if Majerle was actually 6'5.5" then I'd have to guess Barkley a minimum 6'5" and more likely 6'5.5". Also, Majerle did claim 6'6" regardless of whether he is so if he's only 6'5" then he's adding an inch to his own height. Imo, Campbell looked more than just 3" taller than Barkley in that photo, but he also had a camera advantage. I'll concede I wouldn't guess less than 3" between them from that, but the camera advantage at least leaves some doubt. A similar photo would be the 80's all-star photo of Barkley, Dr. J and Cheeks. Barkley has a camera advantage over Dr. J, but you'd still imagine Barkley taller from just that photo. As for Kleine, I haven't seen a good enough photo of them to judge. This is about all I've seen:
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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 8/Dec/18
@Rising
Barkley called Jordan 6'6", but we know for a fact he's not that tall. So there are some who're honest with their own height but inflate others.
Canson said on 8/Dec/18
@Rising: Moses has his head tilted downward so his eyebrows are lower as a result. His knee is also visibly very bent. I’ve seen around 5” with them in video together but he could very well be 6’9” and Barkley 4.5” shorter. As for Barkley and Ainge, Ainge also once said that they were the exact same height and then said that Barkley, while taller isn’t but about half inch taller. Somewhere along the lines of he could be 6’5” but likely about 6’4 1/2” which adds up to his 6’4 5/8 measurement. I’ve seen pics of Majerle being taller than Barkley. I have a hard time seeing a 6’6” Majerle. He was even listed 6’5” at the 1988 Olympics.
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As for Barkley, Joe Klein also said he was only 6’4 barefoot and 6’5 in shoes prior to his jersey being retired in Phoenix and with Danny Manning he looks 6’4 range. Same with 6’7.75 combine (6’7 1/4-3/8 max) Calais Campbell. Campbell has a good 3” on him in their pic. I’m wondering if it’s his choice in shoes on a given day because at times Barkley can look shorter or taller
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Dec/18
My issue with a lot of those guys calling Barkley 6'4" or even 6'5" max is that it doesn't appear to add up with their own claims.
Barkley and Majerle:
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Even Majerle saying Barkley "might be" 6'5", but is probably 6'4" doesn't add up with his own 6'6" claim, imo and Ainge saying Barkley wasn't taller than he was is even tougher for me to buy since Chuck looks more than an inch taller there. Similarly, unless Moses admitted to being 6'9" max or even 6'8" range as opposed to 6'10", I have to take that with a grain of salt. If someone appears to be honest with their own claim then their estimates are more likely to be more reliable, imo.
Canson said on 6/Dec/18
@Rising: for Billups, 189 is the most I could give him. I would really say 188. I’ve heard the same too though that he’s 6’3”. Melo could be in that 198-199 zone. Could be around what he measured even at a low or a solid 6’6” or in between. I’d be very surprised if he’s less than 6’6”. He looks more complete 6’6” than someone like Gronkowski does. He only looks 1.5” maybe 4cm taller than Brady. I compared Chauncey to Ben Wallace. I have Ben as a weak 6’7” only because I’ve heard him say before he’s 6’6/6’7 as well but he’s certainly closer to 6’7 than 6’6”. 6’6.5-6’7 zone. I have Rip 6’5” range. Not sure how high but Rip looked taller than Jordan when they played in Washington. I have Jordan as 6’4.5 at a low but he would be probably 6’5.25 out of bed from my point of view. I could see Rip being maybe 1/2” to 1” taller max. I have Sheed as 6’9.5-6’10 and Tayshawn as 6’8 (give or take). Likely would be under or flat than over. My assessments though are based on an afternoon height at a normal low. The majority of players I met were years ago and I used to consider myself 6’4.5 but now I say 6’4.25 since I only exceed that by maybe 1-2mm some days, others right at it. I wasn’t aware that I varied until I came on this site
Canson said on 6/Dec/18
@Christian: I agree with what you said. He has claimed 6’4, 6’4.5 6’4.75 6’5 etc. he has measurements of 6’4.75 6’4 5/8 6’4 1/2 as viper pointed out and 6’4 7/8. People are quick to dismiss the lower measurements all the time here on this site. Maybe it’s because of how other celebs look next to him but on the court next to someone like Moses or Karl Malone he looks 6’4-6’5. The oddest part is that people will take what a different athlete or celeb says relative to their height (see Blake Griffin’s page) where a poster said that he claimed 6’9” or see Danimal’s posts about Conan “he said he’s 6’4.5”. Those arguments are the ones you really have to question because those celebs aren’t claiming their actual heights whereas Barkley is
Michael 5'10", 178 cm said on 6/Dec/18
Barkley was about Jordan's height, so this is a correct listing. He wasn't 6'6" as listed, more like 6'5".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Dec/18
@184guy2
What about his 6'5.5" claim? Did he upgrade himself then?
Canson said on 5/Dec/18
@184guy: definitely not a flat 6’4 at his peak but many others called him 6’4 too. Such as Danny Ainge Dan Majerle Joe Klein Moses Malone. But I don’t think they meant flat 6’4 but 6’4 range. 6’4.5 is probably what they were implying. Now with a guy like him rounding down to 6’4” flat is the same as them rounding up a (probably) 6’10.5 in shoes maybe 6’10.75 if he’s really 6’9.5 vs 6’9.25 Kevin Durant to 6’11”
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Dec/18
@Canson: Kobe did look taller than Redd, but then again, I trust the accuracy of a professional measurement more than Vanessa doing a measurement at home. With that said, I think they're both close to it. Kobe probably never drops under it while Redd probably does and is 195 cm around noon, imo. I had heard Billups was close to his listing so at one point I figured around 190 cm, but I'd guess maybe 189 cm here with Melo:
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@184guy: Well, that's the point of contention. Personally, I suspect he does often downplay his height for that reason. I can see the argument for Barkley being 6'4.75" because that's what I've seen him claim most often or the 7/8" figure Rob lists him at because there was at least one writer who claimed Barkley measured that, that same figure was in an SI article a few years earlier as well and Barkley's claim he's been measured 6'4.75"-6'5" would fit with him measuring right between that at 6'4 7/8". With that said, he looks taller than a weak or even flat 6'5" to me so I've wondered if he wears orthotics, but imo, that wouldn't make quite enough of a difference to account for how tall he looks. I can call him about 6'5", but imo, he was more likely telling the truth with the 6'5.5" claim or if he really did claim 6'5.25" barefoot in 2007 then maybe more that.
184guy2 said on 5/Dec/18
@Canson
You need to remember that he likes to downgrade himself , and claimed just 6'4 purposely ( he was a power forward , who generally are well over 6'4 ) , so he was trying to make himself unique .
Canson said on 4/Dec/18
@184guy: it’s tough to say whether orthotics or just thicker footwear. Imho he was 6’4.5ish (maybe 6’4 5/8 like the Olympic measurement) when he played. But Rob has him listed correctly if he’s talking more of a combine measurement because he would measure it early morning. I can say he’s definitely not more than 6’4.5 today if even that.
@Rising: I have Redd as roughly 194cm Max. Kobe appeared taller. That would fit him though if he were measured at an equivalent to a morning height. For Kirk that sounds right tho if it’s 1/4” off. Melo and Lebron are both within maybe 1/4” of theirs maybe half at worst for Lebron but Melo looked a legit 6’6 perhaps somewhere around 198-199. I’ve always wondered about Chauncey. I would’ve said he was 6’2” barefoot.
184guy2 said on 3/Dec/18
@Canson
Do you think Barkley uses Orthopedics recently ? If yes , I can see a case for 6'4.5 or maybe just under . If not , I'm still think that he would be very near 6'5
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Dec/18
Hinrich's measurement was 6'2.75" so close enough. 1/4" is a reasonable margin of error or could be a difference in time of day. I have to look into Ford more if you saw him 5'10". Though he doesn't look much more than 5" shorter than 6'4.75" measured Michael Redd:
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Click Here but more 5'10" range with 6'8" Mike Dunleavy. I wish there was a portrait of Porter and Mo Williams like the one with Ford since I take any photos taken during a game with a grain of salt for height comparisons due to the cameras, distance and angles, but Porter looks taller than 6'2" flat here with Redd:
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Canson said on 25/Nov/18
I could be wrong in Ford though. Met Kirk Hinrich the sane weekend and he looked about 189 maybe 6’2.5
Canson said on 25/Nov/18
@Rising: I see only about 1.5” with Mo Williams. And that’s if Mo isn’t a morning measurement himself. TJ Ford looked 5’10 in person as opposed to 5’11
Rising - 174 cm said on 22/Nov/18
@Canson: I'm not at all convinced Porter is 6'2" flat. He looks 6'2.5" minimum even with a slouch next to 5'11" measured T.J. Ford:
Click Here I wouldn't be surprised if he was 4" taller standing straight since Ford only reaches Porter's eyebrows as it is and if Ford's sneakers were 1.25" s they were at the pre-draft camp then there's a good chance he has a fraction footwear advantage. Porter also has an advantage standing in front of Barkley(albeit less than Majerle's advantage), but if you take Porter's height there at face value, he's also looking taller than 6'3" with Magic. As for the Kobe pic, if anything I see the opposite since the pic I posted is a full pic with footwear visible and if anything, Kobe is standing closer while Magic is leaning more noticeably so I don't see how Magic is favored. While the pic you posted is just their upper bodies, shoes are unknown and it appears to have been taken pretty close and lower. With that said, it's a moot point because the difference between Magic and Kobe is about the same in both pics:
Click Here I more than 2" there, possibly 2.25".
@Christian: Comparing their whole bodies in the frame, I wind up with about 2" difference, but comparing the distance between their heads to a 10" head for Barkley as reference then I get less than that.
Canson said on 22/Nov/18
@Mickie: I’ve said since I came on here in Fall 2015 that he was 6’4 5/8 max. Possibly 6’4.5 People don’t Guess a guy who’s 6’4.75 at his lowest at 6’4 when they meet him. He would look 6’5 especially when he is always in thick footwear like he wears. And you have an inconsistent poster or two here who say “Conan said he’s 6’4.5 so that’s what he is” yet you see Barkley claim 6’4/6’5 yet they say it’s false. You have another poster who told me when comparing Rock to Barkley “quit referring to said measurement because there’s no proof of it”. I’m referring to the 6’4 5/8 he measured at the olympics which is a very valid measurement of him
Canson said on 22/Nov/18
@Christian and Rising: Magic is leaning In toward Barkley. You can see there that his right side is inward. If he stood straighter that difference would be “at least” 2.5”. In that pic it looks about 2 (if we don’t account for the lean). It’s obvious that he would be taller if he weren’t
Jacob said on 21/Nov/18
Hey could you start a series of arm wrestlers heights im interested to see what you would guess for devon larratt's height!
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Christian: Magic isn’t standing completely straight either. I look at the difference with Terry Porter (listed 6’3 but probably max 6’2 if not a touch below) and Barkley and it’s pretty close to how a 6’2 guy would look with a 6’4 and change
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Christian: Magic isn’t standing completely straight either. I like at the difference with Terry Porter (listed 6’3 but probably max 6’2 if not a touch below) and Barkley and it’s pretty close to how a 6’2 guy would look with a 6’4 and change
Mickie said on 21/Nov/18
"Barkley, too, faced criticism on both his height and weight, with the NBA Hall-of-Famer measuring 6-foot-4.5 barefoot (he was listed at 6-6 throughout his career) and often weighed well above his listed low weight of 251 pounds."
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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18
@Rising
I can see 2.25" in that pic with Barkley and Magic. But 2.5" is a bit too much.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18
@viper
Just more evidence that Barkley measured around 6'4"-6'5".
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: problem is that the lower measurements for Barkley are not believed in Celebheights. It’s normal tho given he’s also measured 6’4.75. I can believe him measuring 6’4 7/8 but don’t believe it was an official NBA pre draft or anything. I’ve seen 6’4.75 6’4 7/8 6’4 5/8 and 6’4.5 now. I don’t know where the 6’4 7/8 came from
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: exactly. That’s his low which is why people assume he’s taller than he is. He would be over 6’5 out of bed and probably 6’5” at the time they measure in the early AM. Maybe 6’4 7/8 is even that. For the record, this listing isn’t that great either because I’ve never seen the NBA measure in 1/8” increments for the pre draft. At least it’s closer to what he would measure and he would’ve measured this at some stage in his prime but it’s more that most of the others he’s compared to aren’t as tall as listed or that the pictures are dodgy
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Rising: Magic is also leaning in that pic with Barkley. But If we look at Porter with Barkley that’s only about 2.5 maybe. I don’t think Barkley is as tall as Kobe and if they’re close I would still have Kobe edging him today by a small fraction.The pic with you posted with Magic and Kobe where Magic is standing gives him an advantage as well which is why he looks over 2” taller. The pic I posted of Magic and kobe is better from the other day. I posted again and that’s roughly in the neighborhood of a 2” difference. But looking at the pic Barkley is 2.5 inches taller than Porter and is shorter than Majerle. He’s also shorter than Magic even with his lean.
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viper said on 18/Nov/18
Barkley, too, faced criticism on both his height and weight, with the NBA Hall-of-Famer measuring 6-foot-4.5 barefoot (he was listed at 6-6 throughout his career) and often weighed well above his listed low weight of 251 pounds.
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Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Nov/18
As for Majerle, as a general rule and not just in this case, I'd caution against concluding a height difference when there is an admitted camera advantage. After all, wouldn't you also think Barkley was taller than Dr. J from this photo?
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Canson said on 17/Nov/18
Barkley isn’t much taller than Terry Porter who is probably 6’2” barefoot at best
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Nov/18
@Canson: That's nowhere near a 2.5" difference. More like 2" max:
Click Here Remember, Magic's eye to head is small for a man his size. Here's a full pic of Kobe with Magic leaning noticeably:
Click Here Magic still has more than 2" on Kobe there.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
@Canson: It's still hard for me to see him any taller from that all-star pic. In fairness, I'm not sure of Majerle's height as I said. I'll have to look for him with players whose heights that aren't debated much. Personally, as far as pics and videos, I have an easier time judging heights off court than on. I watched Suns games a lot in that era, but don't remember how they generally seemed in them.
Canson said on 16/Nov/18
Magic with Kobe
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Canson said on 16/Nov/18
Barkley looks max 6’4 1/2 in this pic. Magic is learning a bit. Dan Majerle is taller than barkley as well (even though Majerle is closer to the camera). Barkley may be under 6’4.5 today
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Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Rising: I can see Thunder Dan as a weak 6’6” or maybe even strong 6’5” (196.5ish). I still have him taller Barkley. I need to see some footage from older Suns games and it may be more conclusive
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Junior: at times maybe an inch. Other times they look the same. I agree probably 6’5” and change and 6’6 and change respectively
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 10/Nov/18
Dan Majerle look no much way taller than Barkley. 6'6 was a shoe height for sure.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Nov/18
@Canson: Majerle probably isn't standing up to his measured height, but it doesn't look like he'd stretch up taller than Barkley in the all-star pic and Barkley isn't really
Busting a Gut, though I wouldn't deny the possibility he was standing better. I agree Miller is probably taller than Majerle and Majerle could fall into the same range as Moeller.
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Rising: I would have to say brown is more convincing as well. He coached him for 6 years and was much closer in height. As for Barkley and Majerle, I would also say that Majerle is likely not 6’6” but more like the size of Ralf Moeller. Majerle in the pic though is not standing completely straight. Majerle doesn’t look as tall as someone like Reggie Miller to me
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Nov/18
@Canson: Even though Barkley looks taller in the '93 all-star pic, I'm even saying to begin with I can give them about the same height, but I can't see Majerle an inch taller, much less 1.5"-2". That recent pic seems kind of tilted, imo but more importantly, Majerle seems to have a pretty big camera advantage. Look at how close their chins are:
Click Here That means Majerle is mostly winding up taller in the pic due to his head looking abnormally large. But if you look at the all-star pic again:
Click Here You can see they're close from chin to eyes to top of head. So imo, this is probably more representative. In fairness, I've never really looked into Majerle's height independently so he could even around 6'5" flat like many 2 guards listed 6'6". But I think Dan is much closer to Chuck's height than he implies and not as close to Love's height as he thinks. I have to look into Love's height closer too. But this is why some of these guys are less convincing to me. Not all of them. I'll give you an example of what I mean. Larry Brown's Iverson estimate is a lot more convincing to me than Lebron's even though they basically said the same thing. The reason is it adds up better with Brown's stated height than Lebron's estimate adds up with his own stated or even presumed height. To put it more simply, if the person either seems to be lying about their own height or unaware of it then I'm more likely to take their estimates for others with a grain of salt. It could be that they're all basically right about Barkley, but then I'm still saying they have to be lowered themselves accordingly.
Canson said on 5/Nov/18
@Rising: majerle could be right about Love. As for the difference with barkley, Barkley looks taller in that pic. But there are others where he isn’t as tall. I don’t see him as 6’6” either but maybe 6’5.5 in some pics. He looks like he has him by an inch at times but then they can look the same in other pics. That’s just common for Barkley though as he looks taller with a lot of other celebs.
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Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Nov/18
@Canson: Nice job with all the links although there's a few things that come to mind. I think Nash just means Barkley might be as tall as 6'5.5", but no taller and could be shorter. Croce said he didn't know if it was barefoot or shoes so he really doesn't help either of our cases. I think that's about right myself as I leave open the possibility he's a weak 6'5" who might fall to 6'4.75", but he generally looks more of a solid 6'5" to me, maybe even 6'5.5". In fairness, more of the quotes do put Barkley at 6'5" tops, but we've seen some that have thought Barkley could be what I estimate him as. Majerle doesn't rule out 6'5", he just says probably 6'4". He's not necessarily saying 6'4" flat, but somewhere 6'4"-6'5" range, though if Barkley was only 6'4.75" then Majerle was nowhere near 6'6":
Click Here If anything, Barkley edges Majerle, but I wouldn't argue with them being the same height. I can't see Majerle being 1"-2" taller as he suggests, though. Love was measured 6'7.75" so Majerle may be rounding him down. Either way, I'd bet any amount of money Majerle is more than an inch shorter than Love and Majerle is probably around 6'5" himself. I have seen the Webber photo, but the difference isn't as big as it looks at first glance:
Click Here If Webber is 6'9" as he's supposed to have measured then I'd still say Barkley is at least 6'5" there, probably 6'5.25"-6'5.5". Especially since the photo looks to be tilted against Barkley judging by the background. You can see this even more in the full photo:
Click Here 6'9" is probably not Webber's low, though. As for Moses, I posted a good full side by side pic of them recently:
Click Here If Moses was right about Barkley then that would make him only 6'8" range. The quotes are all useful, but a lot of these guys seem to be lying about their own height and I have to take their estimates with a grain of salt. Barkley also measures up surprisingly well to Grant Hill recently:
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As for Jordan, I have him just under 6'5". Probably 6'4.75". I can't rule out 6'4.5" as a low, but he does look surprisingly tall once in a while such as with Obama and Wade. As I've said, I think Barkley is taller and most likely somewhere from 6'5"-6'5.5", but I don't rule out 6'4.75"-6'5", which is basically what I have Kobe. Assuming Vanessa accurately measured Kobe without even a small error then I'd guess 6'4.75" is more his low since he still looks about 6'5" to me and taller with some like Obama. I think Jordan is the shortest of the 3, but only 1/4" shorter than Kobe. Have you met Harper? For some reason, I didn't imagine him 6'5"+ without shoes.
Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: not sure if you’ve seen this one either. This is with Webber and Mahorn. Webber shows a pre draft 6’9” but has been called 6’8/6’9” by Mo Cheeks before. My guess is that 6’9” may be rounded up or be a morning height and that he’s 6’8.5. Webber looked 6’8 range regularly when he played. Barkley looks 6’4 range with Webber
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Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: Kobe could be around that height honestly. He could be as low as maybe 6’4 5/8 or 2/3 but as high as maybe 6’4 13/16 or so and been rounded down. One thing I agree with is that his claim usually outs others claims as he looks taller than some people that claim 6’5”. My guess is that Jordan would be 6’4.5 at a low or maybe even 194cm and that Kobe is around 195 with Barkley sorta in the middle 194.5 ish. I would have Ron Harper taller than all three of them. He looked 6’5 or a hair over (6’5-6’5.5) barefoot and was listed 6’6” on the roster
Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: my opinion is that John Nash giving him 6’5.5 max Is Barkley’s height in shoes. That’s what Croce also alluded to. Moses Malone called Barkley 6’4” as well. Malone was prob 6’9” range barefoot. He could look 6’9.5 honestly. I think barkley was referring to his perception of what the shoe gave him in terms of height though. Maybe he assumed a shoe only gave him 1/2”. I think 6’5.5 is accurate for him in some shoes while 6’5 3/4-7/8 is possible in a basketball sneaker. I would say 6’4 1/2-5/8 barefoot. I do agree with everything you said about him as a player! Solid and tough as a rock. That’s also part of my reasoning is that at his position if he were really over 6’5” he wouldn’t have been listed that low. Probably 6’7” as opposed to 6’6”. But I will also say that had he not come out along with the others and mentioned that he was 6’4” range I would likely think he were 6’5” as well just by deduction (shoe height). It’s because of that along with the footage on TV that lead me to believe that he’s what he claims. You’ll also see below Dan Majerle (although he calls himself 6’6”) calls Barkley maybe 6’5 and probably 6’4” once. Majerle also called himself 6’6” when he referred to Kevin Love only being 6’7” which I also believe about Love but probably 6’7” and change (6’7.25, 1/2” under his combine listing). Barkley also calls himself almost 6’5 and 6’4.75 when Chick Hearn says he’s not even 6’5” below. Dan Patrick also chimes in as he’s also seen Barkley in person. Perception to most is that Barkley is only 6’4”
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