MJMike said on 31/Oct/21
Any thoughts on Ron DeSantis? He has a very stocky build so is hard to place. Also most of his tv appearances are when he’s at a podium so the depth issue is one to judge. I’d say under 6 foot as he’s definitely shorter than Trump but he could equally be anything from 5 foot 9 to 5 foot 11. I’ll split the difference and give him 5 foot 10.
Editor Rob
Would have said nearer 5ft 11 than 10
Arch Stanton said on 24/Oct/21
Melania is a decent 5'9, not 5'8. 176cm. Trump doesn't look under 6ft in that clip given that Melania is closer to the camera and has better posture IMO.
Chaoscontrol. said on 23/Oct/21
viper said on 14/Oct/21
I photograph short is just pure Trump to it's core lmao
I also photograph short you know. I look 6’2-6’3 range in photos but I’m actually 10’0
Lamont Cranston said on 22/Oct/21
In the video with the trumps' and Modi in India, Trump takes off his shoes, as does Melania. She is listed at 5'8"...and at no time in the video does he look any more than 3" taller than her (and very often 2"). He is 5'11" tops.
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viper said on 14/Oct/21
I photograph short is just pure Trump to it's core lmao
Mickie said on 11/Oct/21
"I photograph short" is a pretty funny line.
recapa said on 2/Oct/21
yeah barron seems in the 197-198 lately and he was around 194-195 range last year.i predict that he,ll end up in the 202-203 range.
Basil said on 29/Sep/21
At least 6'
viper said on 28/Sep/21
How is Barron growing to 6-7 unsual?
I had a classmate who was already 6-3 by 8th grade. He grew to 6-8
Canson said on 25/Sep/21
@Viper: 6’6” I’ll say is possible and more likely than 6’5 or 6’7 looking at him again.
rlheight5'11 said on 20/Sep/21
Barron height seems a little unusual. I understand growing to 6'4... But 6'7? Hm.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 17/Sep/21
Arch, Don. Jr looks like a total manlet
viper said on 17/Sep/21
Trump could measure 6-2.5 in the morning with 2 inch Hogan sneakers.
Then round up to 6-3
viper said on 17/Sep/21
I disagree Canson. Barron actually looked 6-7 with his mom recently.
Maybe he's really 6-6 range, but 6-5 range is too low imo
Canson said on 17/Sep/21
@David Tang: probably 6’5 range barefoot and may not be done growing
David Tang said on 14/Sep/21
rob how tall do you think barron is. 6'7 actually might be his height. he actually looks what google gives him.
Editor Rob
Is he finished yet, I don't know...I suppose next year will show if he gains any further height.
Arch Stanton said on 14/Sep/21
Standing next to Don Jr the other night I thought he looks to have lost a bit more height. Jr looked a bit taller. He looks to have lost 20-30 pounds and looks a lot healthier than he did in office at least.
Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Sep/21
@Canson
Very possible. Nipped and tucked both height and weight.
Though, rather than inexplicably adding 1” to his peak height at near 70 yo and standing an actual 6’ 1/2” or so he might’ve done better to simply understate his weight even more. Still an obvious falsehood but perhaps the lesser of two unbelievable evils. Suffice to say there’s a bit more variance in estimates re his weight than there is re his height. I think guesses topped out at around 260 lbs or so. If he kept the weight real imagine what height he needed to claim for that weight to fit into a healthy BMI? LOL.
Canson said on 11/Sep/21
@Tall in the Saddle: I wonder if it was really to mask his obese BMI classification lol
@Chaos Control: he may guess you as 6’4-6’5”. If not a full 6’5”. He has his son Eric at 6’6” lol
Mickie said on 6/Sep/21
Yeah I agree that the 6'3" they cited in office had to have been self reported. He was probably like 6'1.75" - 6'2" peak.
Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Aug/21
He seemed pretty content with the 6’2” listing for years and years. That is, until he assumed office and found 6’2” wasn’t so special in view of the ATG Presidential Height Rankings, putting him several places down the list. I’m surprised he didn’t call out Honest Abe for being a liar and claim Lincoln’s well circulated 6’4” was fake news and that Abe was in fact just 6’2 7/8” making T-bag the tallest prez ever.
This guy really needs to ride off into the Orange sunset already. The Man With No Credibility: Low Level Drifter..
ChaosControl said on 30/Aug/21
If Trump met me he’d probably think I’m 6’5-6’6
Canson said on 29/Aug/21
@Chaos: I vaguely remember it! And you’re absolutely right!
ChaosControl said on 28/Aug/21
Him in the morning with boots on could make the same height as me barefoot at my extreme low, and even then I have to round my height up to 6’3
Ian Vector said on 27/Aug/21
I’d say his peak height was around 190 cm, no more than 184 today.
ChaosControl said on 27/Aug/21
Canson said on 24/Aug/21
@Chaos Control: lol I totally believe it. I remember when he had his physical posted that they did that just to justify his BMI being normal. They lie about his weight too. I’d bet every dollar I’ve made since I’ve been in the work world and then some that you would be taller than him at your evening low of 6’2.25 or even your extreme of 6’2” then he is in a basketball sneaker
You’ve hit the nail on the head mate. Get me at my extreme low, maybe hunch over a bit and throw in a neck injury for completion’s sake, while he’s been lying down for 2 days, busting a gut with rugby studs on and he could probably say “This guy says he’s 6’2.5 and rounds to 6’3 and we look the same height”. I remember watching this thing in late October that said he’s the second tallest presidential candidate of all time and said he was 6’3 and 244lbs after Abraham Lincoln (who they rounded to 6’4) and I was like “BS if he’s 6’3 and 17 1/2 stone then I’m a solid 6’5 and 12 stone after bulking”. I think this was during my last days posting as Julian 6’3 if you want an idea of the time.
Canson said on 24/Aug/21
@Chaos Control: lol I totally believe it. I remember when he had his physical posted that they did that just to justify his BMI being normal. They lie about his weight too. I’d bet every dollar I’ve made since I’ve been in the work world and then some that you would be taller than him at your evening low of 6’2.25 or even your extreme of 6’2” then he is in a basketball sneaker
ChaosControl said on 23/Aug/21
@Canson I spent actual days trying to find his real height a while ago (before I came on here) because Id heard he was 6’3 and didn’t believe it, and while I was researching I read that Trump’s height was self reported
Canson said on 22/Aug/21
The only way (other than the physician lying) that his measurement would remotely constitute a 6’3” listing would be if he got it in shoes almost first thing out of bed. Maybe he’d get 6’1.25 so 6’2.25”. Maybe he had a thicker heal or orthotics and got to 6’2.5”. Then they round to 6’3”. Either way, too many what if’s, so let’s stick to facts that his presidential measurement is crap. Humor is at least and go with 6’2” to make it sound more believable. He could easily justify it if he were measured an hour after waking at 6’0.75 or 6’0 7/8 and put shoes on boom. I’m willing to bet the physician at Walter Reed never even bothered to measure him. He just used what he was told
Slim 6'1.5" said on 20/Aug/21
He’s now shrunk to 183 for a while now
Let’s keep nudging rob for a downgrade 👍
Canson said on 19/Aug/21
This man never saw 6’3 out of bed. A guy his size doesn’t lose an inch in a day. Wouldn’t surprise me if at his peak that he wasn’t just 6’1.75 meaning 6’2.5 out of bed or like he’s listed 6’2” flat and 6’2.75” out of bed. I don’t lose an inch and I’m 6’4”
Progking184 said on 19/Aug/21
@MarkD he can still maybe get away with claiming 6'2. Sometimes i reach 6'2 with shoes and im 6'0.5-6'0.75 in the afternoon. And then if he adds a bit of lift he could be seen as a 6'1 guy, which a good number of people think is 6'2-6'3.
toddd0461 said on 15/Aug/21
Rob, how tall do you think US Florida governor Ron DeSantis is based on this picture?
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Editor Rob
5ft 11 or more
David Tang said on 6/Aug/21
rob, would you consider morning height to be acceptable as a claim. like if trump claimed 6'3 out of bed (which you and i agree on), why wouldn't you give morning measurement as acceptable. relaistically speaking, if he measures it once, he is that i guess.
Editor Rob
An out of bed height is of course a valid measurement.
It doesn't last long though, by the time most of us are out the door and seeing people we are 1cm shorter.
TJE said on 5/Aug/21
Rob, how about a page for Charlie Kirk? Here he is with Trump:
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Looks around 6'3 to me.
Editor Rob
Could picture big Charlie at 6ft 3 and change.
Mark D said on 4/Aug/21
6'2" peak, barely over 6'0" now, tops. Probably has lifts in his shoes. Inflates everything. His age, weight and worsening posture are all likely factors in that. 6'3"? lol. Not now or ever.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 27/Jul/21
I'd like to know how much Donald Trump admits to for his height now....
This is what I think:
Today: 6ft0.25; Peak: 6ft2.
Footballfan667 said on 24/Jul/21
He's More Like 5'11 ½ tbh
Aidan Creekmore said on 20/Jul/21
Comparing his height to Justin Trudeau, he is 5'11.8", and I think I remember a driver's license or passport or something that said he was 6'2.5" at his peak but I could be wrong.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 18/Jul/21
I'm not a fan of his behaviour but I do think looking at older photos that somewhere within 6ft2-2½ range prime is more likely than 6ft1½-2 which as I've said all along is more Clinton territory.
David Tang said on 16/Jul/21
rob, just a quick question, do you think trump woke up to 6'3 or close to it out of bed and maybe claimed that. also is out of bed height dishonest. I don't think it is. ist is technically your real height.
Editor Rob
Yes I do think he was 6ft 3 out of bed.
I'm not a fan of claiming out of bed height, but if you did go with it, I would mention the fact like 'first thing' / 'in the morning'
Sally DeLine said on 16/Jul/21
Rob,
Did you see this video of Trump and PM Modi without shoes in India? He took off his shoes before entering a religious ashram.
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Editor Rob
still seemed tall against Modri there, at least 6ft
Mickie said on 15/Jul/21
@Rob haha yeah that's a good way of putting it.
Barron is already up to 6'7"??
Editor Rob
Barron's looking very tall and packing on muscle. I don't know if he's as tall as 6ft 7 yet.
5'10 Dude said on 15/Jul/21
I think that Trump is at a maximum height of 6'0¼ now. He looks 6'0 max next to Dana White now which kinda surprised me. Sure they're not the best photos to go off of, but he seemed to only be a little bit taller than Joe Biden on the debate stage. Trump looked a decent 6'2 in his prime, but he has lost quite a bit of height since then. He even looked shorter than the 6'2 A-Rod way back in 2004 so it's safe to say that he hasn't touched a full 6'2 in a long time. His posture has always been quite bad as well.
Sus said on 14/Jul/21
5'11
David Tang said on 14/Jul/21
rob maybe he woke up to 6'3 or close to it. At his peak, i wouldn't be surprised if he was close to 6'3. maybe 6'2.75 in the morning and 6'2 at night.
Editor Rob
6ft 3 is Trump's 'Showmanship height', the one he tells people and brags about and has tattooed on his ankle.
6ft 2 is his 'you got me' height, the one on his driving licence, the one on CelebHeights, the one he dreams about at night that he could still measure...
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 14/Jul/21
Never did think Trump looked 6’3. Not even sure on 6’2, I find 6’1.75 more plausible. Currently 6’0.25 max. I have a feeling he’s gonna call Barron 7’0...
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/21
Jim Justice looks massive, got to be at least 400 pounds to boot, but he doesn't look 6'7 with Trump, nearer 6'5 I'd say, but looks as if he has back trouble, I can believe he was 6'7 in his prime. The question now is whether Barron will grow any more!
GG185 said on 12/Jul/21
Looks 182 beside Dana white
Jose Maran said on 12/Jul/21
Rob, how tall does Trump look next to 5'10.25 Dana white here?
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Editor Rob
didn't look over 6ft from the time they were together
Ndomingu said on 11/Jul/21
It certainly is looking like Barron Trump is the same height as the current West Virginia governor Jim Justice (6’7”) now, who I’ve heard is a good friend of the Trump family (through Eric, I think?). Donald looks about 6-7 inches shorter than Barron now and his wife Melania is over a head less than Barron.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/21
Seen the recent pics? Barron is looking over a head taller than Melania, I see easily 10 inches. She's in flats and can't see his footwear. Trump is saying he's 6 ft 7 now at 15 and he actually looks it with his mother! He looks to have put on weight too. Barron seems to have shot up two inches in only a few months. I said he might end up 6'8...
Duhon said on 8/Jul/21
Based on the most recent pictures of Barron I can see him at 6'7" more than Donald at 6'3" or 6'2". He's only 15 so still too early to tell where he'll end up.
viper said on 8/Jul/21
Barron really does look 6-7.
A year ago he looked 6-5
Progking184 said on 28/Jun/21
Yeah he looks tall but not that tall and imposing like a legit 6'2-6'3 does. Depends though as sometimes when I watch him he seems just tallish while other times he looks close to 6'1. 6'0 1/2 for today.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Jun/21
Half an inch tops between Clinton and Trump peak...Bill at 6ft1¾ and Donald 6ft2¼
Rob, are those figures arguable?
Editor Rob
I can see the possibility
Tall In The Saddle said on 17/Jun/21
Yeah I tend to think, peak v peak, Trump would’ve edged Clinton.
Clinton never struck me as a legit 6’2” and I figured while he might’ve been 6’1 1/2” or so, they just rubber stamped as a more favourably classic 6’2” president. In terms of age, appearance and style, Bill was the cool, sax playing, glam president and a tweak to 6’2” wouldn’t have hurt the overall perception of the man. At their best there might’ve been half a cigar width between Bill and Big T. ;)
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 12/Jun/21
Trump probably thinks Barron (who Id guess is 6’4.5 or something, I’m not American and don’t pay much attention to the Trumps so my guess could be right out) is 6’7 because he inflates his own height by so much. Donald is probably 183-183.5, nothing more. The only thing legit about him is that he’s a legit 6’0 also his peak was 6’1.75 probably
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jun/21
I've seen somebody who I think knows Trump claiming Barron is 6 ft 7. Perhaps that's what they're claiming for him now in the land of inflated heights where Trump is 6 ft 3. Barron might be fast headed towards 6 ft 6 though, I haven't seen him for a while. He was looking 6'5 the last I saw with Donald Jr.
viper said on 7/Jun/21
Trump says Baron is 6-7
Stefania said on 4/Jun/21
He is almost the same height as Tiger Woods. This means that Trump is no more than 184cm. (you can google the photos for more comparison)
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viper said on 27/May/21
Trump wouldn't have edged Clinton.
If anything it would be the other way
Canson said on 25/May/21
@Danimal: 6’1.75 is the minimum imho. 6’2 the max. GF could look a touch over 6 3 at times too.
Canson said on 20/May/21
@Viper: he looked taller than Will Smith. 6’1.75” is about as low as I could see. Bill never had a 6’2.5 measurement did he? I thought he said in the morning he was but don’t see it on record
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 20/May/21
No, Trump was a solid 6ft2 guy in his prime and would've edged Clinton
Danimal 176.7cm said on 20/May/21
This should settle Donald Trump's PEAK (prime) height. Here he is 30 years ago standing between 6'1" Evander Holyfield and 6'3" George Foreman. Donald looked like a solid 6'2" guy in his 40's:
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ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 19/May/21
@Viper just 186 would surprise me. I could believe 187
viper said on 18/May/21
Yes
Could be a chance he was as low as 186cm and has only shrunk an inch
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 17/May/21
@Viper would you agree with my guess that Trump was weak 6’2 peak?
viper said on 16/May/21
Bill being a weak 6-2 surprises me, because he physically looked taller than Trump ever did imo
Bill also had a 6-2.5 listing which I could have believed as a early morning measurement
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 14/May/21
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6’5.25 vs 6’1.75 vs 6’11, but if you go by their own claims it’s 6’7 vs 6’3 vs 7’5
Tall In The Saddle said on 14/May/21
@Chaos
Certainly possible he wasn't the full 6'2" but if not, I'd still say very close, like somewhere between 6'1 1/2" and 6'2".
viper said on 12/May/21
I think he was 6-1.5 peak
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 11/May/21
Am I the only one who thinks he wasn’t a full 6’2 peak?
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 10/May/21
Can look 6ft flat these days
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 2/May/21
Trump is 6’0, maybe 6’0.25. Be looks it in every picture
Meltdown said on 1/May/21
A hair over 6ft now and easily 250-260 lbs. No is not very fit, but still high energy. He should still be president. Let's fix election laws, America!
Arch Stanton said on 25/Apr/21
What were you saying about watermarking and "those who lowballed Donald are in for a shock" Rob! :-) 6ft and change still, seems to have lost weight since last year, much needed! Barron looks around 6'5 last I saw.
Gregory Czerepak said on 15/Apr/21
Trump lies about his height just like he lies about everything else. The most I will give him is 5-11 barefoot.
Vincent Caleb said on 8/Apr/21
I’m surprised that Donald’s page is still as popular as ever even now. I guess he was a polarizing figure, even when it comes to height.
Editor Rob
Biden has a decent amount searches for his height, however still behind Trump.
Google give me an idea of how many times celebs are searched.
Snippet from 'ranked height searches' from last week showed
Joe Biden, was about similar to Mr Beast and Bruce Lee in terms of interest in their Height.
Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Mar/21
I have never considered Big T to be intelligent, charismatic and funny. IMO, he is the exact opposite. There are just people who simply see want they want to see even though it’s not actually there in front of them. T as described above might reside in another universe in which “alternative” facts exist. That T doesn’t reside in this reality. We got the worst possible bizarro version.
Average Heighted Male said on 27/Mar/21
I also can't believe President Trump is listed as 6ft3 on some sites. No way considering his son-in-law Jared Kushner is 6ft3 and is about 2 inches over him. Plus Kushner always has inches over Ivanka,despite her wearing heels. Kushner is also a slender tall man who at times borders on being a weak 6ft4.
Now at almost 75 President Trump is a weak 6ft1 man. Possibly 6ft0½. He also looks to have been losing weight.
Ivanka is more likely 5ft9-10, seeing how her husband looks gigantic next to her. Same with Melania.
Lifts and heels can be some people's best friends.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 26/Mar/21
@ Nik - As a result of keeping the keyring on the bed with the cats, the appendage has now fallen - or more likely been pulled - off. I found the squidgy article near a saucerful of cat biscuits and threw the revolting thing away.
🤮
Had I been quicker on the uptake at that particular moment in time, I'd have flushed it down the toilet!
🚽😅
Nik Ashton said on 26/Mar/21
@ Sandy Cowell - You did thanks! Donald’s fart has grown into a huge lump on mine too, the lump seems to be glued to his **** but I can press it or stretch it! It doesn’t make a noise though unfortunately!
6’0.5”.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Mar/21
Arch, or like one of the Klitschko brothers...a behemoth of a man that would scare the life out of the Trumps...but yeah he's a dumpy little man...like if Fred Flintstone and Putin had a child...
Arch Stanton said on 24/Mar/21
Yeah, you'd think her father would be tall and athletic and have that tough, cold Eastern European look. He looks more like Fred Flinstone! Melania and Navalny could pass for brother and sister actually.
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 24/Mar/21
@Arch that picture looks photoshopped. The face just seems wrong
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 24/Mar/21
@ Nik - Oh, I remember! I had Amazon send you a keyring directly. My Donald's mere fart has grown into a huge, distended mess. In fact, I'm quite surprised it hasn't fallen clean off!
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 23/Mar/21
Arch, believe it or not Melania's folks look to be pretty average (
Click Here I couldn't find any photos of them with Melania oddly)...the father is squat and proportionally looks maybe 5ft9? You'd think her dad would look more like Alex Nevalny...tall, athletic, cold-looking, almost sinister....But again it could be a generational thing, doesn't always have to be direct hand-me-down height. Melania may have other very tall relatives
As for Barron, he's gotta be no less than 6ft5 at this point and could easily end up 6ft8 range...Don Jr. looks so manlet-like and unimpressive, scrawny fat...Eric's got height on his side but seriously needs to work out...skinny man-bod...
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 23/Mar/21
Incognito324 said on 21/Mar/21
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 19/Mar/21
Physically a heavyweight, intellectually a featherweight
I disagree with this. He is smart enough to win the respect of the public, even if it is done for selfish
purposes. He is a typical politician. Sly, charismatic, and intelligent. He's also very funny.
On the topic of funny things, I was making a joke. I guess if you praise Trump like that though without mentioning his weaknesses (he’s very much a high intelligence low wisdom kind of guy) you probably don’t understand satire
Arch Stanton said on 23/Mar/21
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Trump looks to have already lost a lot of weight, look at his face and neck, probably ordered by his doctor to do a lot of exercise and lose weight.
ALEXIZ/180cm said on 23/Mar/21
186 cm peak
183 cm today
Arch Stanton said on 22/Mar/21
The curious thing is that Barron towers over Don jr yet his mother is only about an inch taller than Ivana and the same father. As I said before I suspect Melania has some very tall men in her family.
Arch Stanton said on 22/Mar/21
@Rob,
Click Here I know he's further forward than Don jr but I think he's got to be no less than 6'5 currently. I'd say there's still a good chance of ending up 6'7-6'8.
Somebody who saw Trump recently said he's lost about 20 pounds and looking much healthier.
Editor Rob
at 15 now, he might go through another growth phase this year and who knows how much he'll put on.
Nik Ashton said on 21/Mar/21
@ Sandy Cowell - You bought me one, thanks so much! I will dig it out later! His pants may not wash and his 6’3” claim certainly wouldn’t wash with Rob!
Incognito324 said on 21/Mar/21
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 19/Mar/21
Physically a heavyweight, intellectually a featherweight
I disagree with this. He is smart enough to win the respect of the public, even if it is done for selfish
purposes. He is a typical politician. Sly, charismatic, and intelligent. He's also very funny.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 21/Mar/21
@ Chaos Control - Well said! 😉👍
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 20/Mar/21
Not long ago, I bought a comedy keyring of Donald Trump blowing off, as his name suggests!
After much ware and tare, the thing dangling from his bum has grown enormously and now it looks as though he's messed himself! 😂👌
Peak height - 6ft2
Now - 6ft0.5
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 19/Mar/21
Physically a heavyweight, intellectually a featherweight
Average Heighted Male said on 11/Mar/21
President Trump is more likely a weak 6'1 now, he's nearing 75,gained weight, meh posture. Peak height could have been strong 6'1¾,maybe weak 6'2. Even George HW Bush in his 50s/60s seemed like a taller 6'2 guy and would have edged Trump by an inch. Trump and Obama are similar in height these days. George W.Bush and Biden are both 5'11¾-6' guys.
Barron's height has to be 6'5. He towers both mum and dad. He's 15 and could grow some more. He reminds me of how John Cleese grew so tall in his teens.
Vincent Caleb said on 7/Mar/21
I think Trump may stop losing height when he hits the 182 range.
Roots4828 said on 7/Mar/21
Click Here 1:27 onwards. Trump doesn't look very tall here — perhaps the Queen's Guards at this ceremony were chosen specifically for height?
Hong said on 4/Mar/21
Click Here Here's Donald with 6ft Tiger Woods.
recapa said on 2/Mar/21
@Rob,i know that we wont see barron for a while but do you think that he is around 6ft5-6ft6 now .
Editor Rob
It will be interesting to see when he appears again with others, to see if he's heading into 6ft 5-6 zone this year...
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 2/Mar/21
Slim 6'1.5 said on 28/Feb/21
Canson, he’ll be sub 6ft in 2024
He’ll be getting the same listing as Grant Gustin by then
Canson said on 1/Mar/21
@Slim: maybe
Slim 6'1.5 said on 28/Feb/21
Apparently he wants to run for president again next election
Slim 6'1.5 said on 28/Feb/21
Canson, he’ll be sub 6ft in 2024
Canson said on 25/Feb/21
@Slim: he may be out of the spotlight for a while. But when he reappears on the debate floor in 2024 or next to Pence etc maybe
Slim 6'1.5 said on 25/Feb/21
Why is it taking rob so long to downgrade current to 183cm?
Editor Rob
apart from the golf course, has Trump been photographed with anybody recently?
Steven Stinson said on 24/Feb/21
188 flat Peak current 183.5
Tall In The Small said on 20/Feb/21
@Chaos
Sorry this might end up as a duplicate reply. My orig reply still hasn’t posted and i didn’t want it to appear as if I ignored you.
Tremors was 90s comedy horror starring Kev Bacon and Fred Ward. Yeah, I would say it was a good, fun movie. I love legitimately scary horror movies though they’re increasingly hard to come by. Also, the more you see, the more familiar you become with the cliches they employ so, by that token also, it gets harder to become shocked or surprised. Back in 84 when Nightmare on Elm Street hit the cinemas it was a paradigm shift in the horror movie formula, at least for me. The concept of entering your dreams and terrorising you is downright scary and horror movie villains don’t get any better than Freddy Krueger IMO. Iconic.
Wow, imagine if Trump could get in your head like that? Then again, he apparently did succeed with some people. LOL. Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue.
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 18/Feb/21
@T. I. T. S. never watched Tremors. Is it good?
Tall In The Saddle said on 17/Feb/21
@Chaos
Vivid imagination. Possibly too much exposure to movies like TREMORS also.. Birds always got me as a kid. Not a phobia but a justified wariness. Always getting dive bombed. I guess due to lighter coloured hair which darkened as I got older. Eventually I could walk among the birds with a reasonable degree of confidence.
Arch Stanton said on 17/Feb/21
Any chance of adding Nancy Pelosi Rob, she's a very prominent figure in the US. I see 5 ft 5 online but it seems way too high. She always looks quite small. She's 80 now I think.
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 16/Feb/21
@T. I. T. S. I feared worms because I thought they ate human flesh. They’re closely related to leeches after all (both classed as Annelida) I also thought they’d hide underground, and 30 or so of them would wrap themselves around your ankles and pull you under the earth’s surface
Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Feb/21
@Chaos
Apologies for dredging up any childhood traumas. But let’s face it, you started it with your worm apple analogy. That tells me you want to deal with your fear but don’t know how. Quick fix, eat a worm. :)
Vincent Caleb said on 15/Feb/21
@Slim:
6’2” is possible though IMO.
slim 6'1 said on 15/Feb/21
Nothing over 6’2 for peak
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 12/Feb/21
@T. I. T. S. I didn’t see your comment, and thanks for reminding me why I was scared of worms as a child.
Tall In The Saddle said on 9/Feb/21
@Chaos
Okay, your comment has made me break my no politics promise for just a second.
The apple and the worm. Excellent analogy at every level.
Let's further qualify, an obese, ranting, chomping, ever growing Orange Glow Worm at that. Worms are also invertebrates. It just gets better and better, doesn't it? Also, sounds like he's got another "A" Team going for him as legal reps. I pity the fools.
JohnnyBravo said on 9/Feb/21
He leans forward weirdly in a lot of photos... a sign of a lifts-wearer.
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 8/Feb/21
Saying Trump did what’s best for America is like saying a worm in an apple is doing what’s best for the apple
Canson said on 8/Feb/21
@Rising: agree 100%. He looked half inch shorter 4 years ago. Not sure if he’s lost any since. Biden from the looks of it, appears to me to be about 5’11.5. A coworker of mine looks similar in pics etc and he’s also 5’11.5 or a hair under. The 5’11.65 was probably accurate and a mid morning or maybe just before lunch. I know Rob’s said before that the variance from morning to evening goes down when you get to a more senior age. When you see the first debate, Trump was definitely taller but it wasn’t by much. Up to 1” but certainly not more
As for Trump’s mistakes, lol I would have to call the publicist for my book deal 😂. Where do we begin? And mistakes is an overly generous term
Tall In The Saddle said on 7/Feb/21
@Arch
True. Keep it off politics, which is clearly Rob’s desire.
I’ll just say one thing, although we all threw in our 2 cents worth with some obvious disagreement, at least as far as I read, no one talked smack or argued. IMO, a credit to everyone who put forward their opinion.
I will add though, Trumps hands are small and you know what they say about small hands? You need to wear small gloves. Boom boom.
Arch Stanton said on 7/Feb/21
"On twitter in 2013 when somebody said he was a "Small man. Large ego", Trump replied "No, large man 6'3". Large ego!"" Haha, at least he's honest on that except the figure! Yes let's keep this a politics-free zone and keep it to height now, it's been very relevant last few months but it's just too contentious..
Rising174cm said on 6/Feb/21
Strange, Donald still looked peak height around '99-'00 with Jesse Ventura, Bill Clintom etc., but more 6'1" than 6'2" by 2004, yet here in 2007, he looks taller than a supposed 6'1" Steve Austin at about 2:30: tinyurl.com/15k0nzjc Is that camera/posture? He doesn't look taller at 1:50, but that's a briefer comparison. I've seen Austin look more 6'0" than 6'1" as early as the 90s, so I don't know, but Donald did generally still seem a good inch taller than Vince McMahon back in '07 and '09 so I guess Vince was already 6' flat.
@Canson: I'll have to go back and compare them in the debates, but that makes sense. And yeah, Obama didn't even have an inch on Trump back in 2017, much less 2". Considering posture, it was a half inch at the absolute most.
@viper: I agree. Trump could have given his opponents less ammunition and perhaps lost less of the senior voters who voted for him in 2016 without losing any of his base. There are a number of mistakes he made compared to his 2016 campaign. Donald didn't seem to fully understand why his 2016 campaign was successful.
slim 6'1 said on 5/Feb/21
Big don was a solid 6’2” at peak but now these days just a solid 183cm
Why is taking rob so long to downgrade him already?
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Feb/21
@Zahid
Excellent point. I agree a past peak Bush could be seen to edge out peak Trump. That photo may not be the perfect specimen (LOL, I could be talking about Trump himself at the same time) but there are other photos supporting an advantage to Bush. So yes, possible Bush Snr a bit more than 6’2” with peak Trump still possibly a touch less than 6’2” himself at the same time.
Height_Expert said on 5/Feb/21
6’ 1 3/4” (187.5 cm) peak and 6’ 1/4” (183.5 cm) now. He was shorter than Bush Sr. who was a legit 6’ 2” and some change in the early 1990s when Bush Sr. Was in his mid 60s. Trump I must say had a lot of flaws yet he did many good things as POTUS. He made peace with 4 middle eastern countries, deescalated tensions with North Korea, wiped out 95% ISIS in the the Middle East, didn’t start a war, created the USMCA, redid TPPP, killed Solemani, cut taxes which saved the middle class $2,000, pass criminal justice reform, created opportunity zones, reformed the VA, and made other countries pay more. I mean he wasn’t that unpopular he got 12 million more votes than last time and made the election with odds against him heavy very close. He had his flaws especially with what happened on January 6 and the fake fraud cases but he did a lot of good and hopefully others will realize that.
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 3/Feb/21
I’d edge him out at his peak, today it would be no contest
Canson said on 2/Feb/21
@Heightmaster: that definitely isn’t 2” between Obama and Trump. Nor is it more than 2” between Trump and Trudeau. Trump could be a bit less than he’s listed (today) but at the same time I see the argument for the listed height being he did edge Biden in the debates. He could look up to an inch taller. Biden’s measurement likely wasn’t a low though and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s 5’11.5” in the afternoon
heightmaster said on 2/Feb/21
Trump is at most 5' 11". I have stood next to him on the elevator and am 6' 1" and noticeably taller than him. He is also very fat indeed, and I weigh 240. My guess is 5'11" and 280 for Trump. You only have to look at the photo of him next to Obama to see that he doesn't meet the six-foot mark.
Genau said on 2/Feb/21
187.5-188 cm Peak, 183-183.5 current
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 1/Feb/21
Legit 6 foot currently, maybe even strong 6’. Only legit or strong thing about him
Sammy 6'5" said on 31/Jan/21
6'1", of course trumo would lie about his height 2" lmao
Arch Stanton said on 29/Jan/21
Any chance of adding the beautiful (and sane) Tulsi Gabbard Rob? Somewhere around 5 ft 7 range?? Not sure but I wouldn't have thought 5 ft 8.
Editor Rob
I would never have guessed over 5ft 7
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Jan/21
With Trump there are some photos at peak which can suggest perhaps not quite a full 6’2” but at this stage I’ve seen more photos to reasonably justify a 6’2” estimate but absolutely not a mm more. He’s added an alternative 1” to his actual peak but perhaps he needs the extra 1” elsewhere.
Zahid said on 27/Jan/21
A past peak George Bush Sr. was taller than a peak Trump. Either Trump's peak was less than 6'2" or Goerge Bush Sr. was more than 6'2".
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Eric W said on 27/Jan/21
powerful men are often tall, 180+
More important is, stay away from short men with power!!
Eric Tam said on 26/Jan/21
@CZV Lol president of ME looks like a younger and taller version of prime minister of ME (too lazy to write out Montenegro sorry)
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 26/Jan/21
Got a copy of the Trump Administration tape measure. It seems to think I’m 6’6
AlphaOmega said on 23/Jan/21
He's the same height as 6'1 Obama here.
Click Here So yeah Trump's not 6'3 as he claims. Rob's estimate of 6'0.5 is much closer to the truth.
CZV said on 22/Jan/21
Rob what's your height estimate on former Prime Minister of Montenegro Markovic as well as the current President of Montenegro Djukanovic
PM of ME next to Trump and Pence
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President of ME next to Obama and Trump (billed at 196 cm)
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Thanks in advance
Editor Rob
almost 6ft and near 6ft 5 does seem possible
Canson said on 16/Jan/21
@Editor Rob: is that the case for you? That yours has reduced?
Editor Rob
you are looking at more 60's to 70's to really notice a change like that. Maybe some in 50's will notice it, if they've recorded their morning/evening in 20's and 30's accurately.
slim 6'1 said on 15/Jan/21
Google now has him listed as 190cm
slim 6'1 said on 15/Jan/21
Big don’s about 183 these days, can’t wait to see joe Biden as the potus
Arch Stanton said on 15/Jan/21
Trump might only be 6'0.5 but today he stands at 6005 ft tall!! I was right on what was coming... What a badass!!... Rob should give him his claimed 6'3 just for today!..
Editor Rob
Trump may well take inspiration from Kim Jong and create a
lifesized statue in his own honour.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 14/Jan/21
Does Trump lose more height than average in a day? Dude’s gotta be pushing 270 pounds if not more
Editor Rob
Trump at the moment is losing a lot each day...height is the least of his worries!
As we get into older age the variation in morning-evening can reduce a bit as the discs naturally thin.
slim 6'1 said on 14/Jan/21
Take the quarter inch 👍
vastlybetter566 said on 13/Jan/21
Trump is a big 6ft3. And we all know it. Especially those that claim lower. There was massive fraud in the voting, I tell you. Big massive dumps were found and they are not looking into it. Many voted illegally. Editor Rob has to step in and do the right thing.
Editor Rob
True.
all votes have been watermarked with Quantum entangling encryption and as I speak, are being passed to Rudy Guiliani
believe me, those who lowballed Trump are in for a big big shock!
Dom5'11.5 said on 13/Jan/21
Rob, have you received a call from trump asking to downgrade biden's height to 5'8??
Editor Rob
no phone call...
but Trump wanted me done for alleged Height Crimes & Liftdemeanors
Vincent Caleb said on 13/Jan/21
IMO if trump clears 6’0” today it is by a small fraction rather than a large one. Back in 2016 I think he was an easy 6’0.5” guy, but perhaps he has been losing some more. 183 is likely in my opinion. It has been looking a lot more like only 3 inches between Trump and Pence. Also, does anybody know how tall Tulsi Gabbard is? Haven’t seen too much but I was thinking 5’6”, or a little under.
Tunman said on 13/Jan/21
@ChaosControl 6'2.5
What's sure is that both are denying reality.In fact I've read some comments of G which I think lasted until late April 2009 so 3-4 weeks after the Big Grapple and it seems like the meeting with Rob totally disappeared from his mind.Had it been someone else who measured him in an unprofessional way I could have understood but after having been measured by Rob himself,few (if any)can speak of an unfair method
@Vincent
Yeah,it will soon die by itself,but it's normal to also have discussions about some important events that occur.I can tell that every single customer coming to my shop is speaking of Covid these days.As I told Sandy my country will only provide half measures,and it did (with only a 4 yes a 4 day lockdown which won't prevent further contamination)
Editor Rob
I am sure Glenn might have concocted up some conspiracy, but then there are probably some folk who still hope I'm 5ft 7 too and all barefoot measurements are conspiracies 😆
If Trump got measured under my stadiometer and heard me call out the words "Six Foot" followed by "and a 1/4 inch", he'd not only turn from Orange to Red in one millisecond, he'd also probably toss me and the stadiometer out the window! 🤬
Vincent Caleb said on 12/Jan/21
@Editor Rob:
Are we getting a little off topic here? I am afraid I have been contributing to a lot of the political discussion. I will try to refrain from posting as these types of comments. I’m sure the political comments will die down in a month or so.
Editor Rob
yeah, best veering back to Trump and today I still think he can clear 6ft if measured, but in next couple of years might struggle with 6ft mark.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 12/Jan/21
@Tunman G and Trump is what we wrestling fans like to call a heel tag team
Tunman said on 11/Jan/21
@Vincent
If he ever visits he'll be upset by the height Rob lists him at.He'll try to turn Celebheights as fake heights site.I bet he would support someone like G by bringing back that old article where Rob said G was 5'8 as a true one and the Big Grapple would be turned into a conspiracy to undermine someone who stood courageously against downgraders,some sort of martyr of the truth...He'll create a ring of Trolls around himself boosting his height day and night and upgrading/downgrading all the celebs he likes/hates and jumping on every occasion to ridicule any estimate which didn't please him.
It will be a hard time for the site,but the day they'll attempt a massive attack on the most sacred symbol of height guessers (Rob Paul himself) in the hope of taking over the height institution,the outcry will be too important,action will be taken swiftly,don't think that the height police will watch them intimidating peaceful guessers,all of them wil end up
Banned at the minimum,many will be sentenced to one or several years without shoes over 0.75"
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 11/Jan/21
@Vincent imagine if he accused the average guess of voter fraud
Canson said on 11/Jan/21
@Vincent: I totally see that
vastlybetter566 said on 10/Jan/21
The interesting thing about Barron will be: Will he add an inch to his height like hos father and his two brothers did. Suppose he ends up 6'7, will he claim 6'8?
vastlybetter566 said on 10/Jan/21
Id Trump started posting here, I' bet he'd call himself "John Barron".
Vincent Caleb said on 10/Jan/21
@Editor Rob:
I wouldn’t be surprised if he started posting here considering he is
Banned from all other social media, although it would only be a matter of time until he said something to get him
Banned from here.
184guy2 said on 9/Jan/21
@Zillian
Learn no write down correct of the brazilian president
BOLSONARO :)
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 9/Jan/21
@Rob I hate being political, but I have a feeling we haven’t seen the last of Trump
Editor Rob
You never know, he might start posting on CelebHeights 😳
Lookout for anybody with a username like "Big Don 6'3" 😎
Dead giveaway!
Canson said on 8/Jan/21
@JTM: not even. By maybe March. You may have February with bad taste in peoples mouths. But he’ll be talked about again later when he faces his
Editor Rob
with Trump purged from all social media, it will be interesting to see what he does in the future.
Tunman said on 8/Jan/21
Seriously did someone expect that to happen?Shocking.But the problem is Trump himself is no longer able to control his fans violent behaviour,it's not like some neo nazis just showed up and protest but now a crowd entering the capitol!It would be interesting to know who exactly such people were as not all of them are neo nazis.The fact that he has used words which in their minds were the signal that they should do what they have to do to "save their country" was probably the most terrible of his mistakes.Too late did his condemning come,the fact that he hasn't disavowed them at the very moment they were attempting to enter will sound like an open support for an insurrection in the eyes of his enemies.That and maybe the Georgia callings have probably put an end to his political career.Contesting Biden's victory and refusing defeat was nothing in comparison!2024 won't bring him back.Any opponent will be sure to win against him after that,I even doubt the Republicans will ever support him again.The fact that so many people call to impeach him now just two weeks before the end of his tenure is quite telling!For some every second he'll be in office will be a torture,what's more they can now say he's unstable!I was joking with my father about how he could declare war to Iran in that short lapse of time to create special conditions to stay for longer and although it's obviously very unlikely my father answered that nothing will be certain until January 20th,lol
Vincent Caleb said on 8/Jan/21
@Canson:
I could see 3/4 or 1 inch between Biden and Trump and the debates, but I have a slight suspicion Biden’s measurement was only 1 hour out of bed, and that he is more 5’11.25” currently. If he was 6’0.25” at peak like I think, then an inch loss may be what has happened. Very healthy height loss for nearly 80.
Zillian said on 7/Jan/21
He was seen side by side with Bozonaro, president of Brazil.
Bozo is listed at 1.88m, which is 6'2''.
To me looked 1.87m beside Bozo.
vastlybetter566 said on 7/Jan/21
Trump was a terrible president. A real dwarf in American history. WEAK perfomance.
Heightwise he is head and shoulders above Lindsey and Cocaine Mitch. I think these two should have a page.
Jtm said on 7/Jan/21
He will be getting much less comments by June lol
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Jan/21
@Canson
LOL. Yes, Orange Banana, Orange being the new black.
Bending evermore and barely scraping 6 feet but perhaps a touch of height in reserve in view of some poor posture with potential for correction.
Canson said on 4/Jan/21
@Slim and Vincent: he could at times but then when he debated against Biden it looked noticeable at times. Maybe Biden is an afternoon 5’11 3/8 or 1/2 but Trump could look perhaps 6’0.25”. I doubt higher though at almost 75. I agree with Chaos Control. Now with Obama the same can be said. Funny part is that Chris Cuomo didn’t say he was shorter than him. Just that he wasn’t 1” taller. Then the pic with Justin Trudeau but especially Mark Sanchez who likely is a weak 6’2 being he measured 1/8 over at the combine early morning. There looked around 1.5” between them. Frankly 6’0.25 could’ve been when he took office. He also didn’t look taller than Ray Lewis who measured 6’ 3/8”
Progking184 said on 4/Jan/21
I think he's 6'0.25 nowadays(6'1.25-6'1.5 in shoes), in lifts though I guess he could appear a bit closer to 6'1.
slim 6'1 said on 3/Jan/21
Thanks Vincent, I’m confident he’s on 183cm territory these days 👍
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 3/Jan/21
@Vincent I’ve got him at 6’0.26 today, by 2025 he’ll be 6’0 max
Canson said on 2/Jan/21
@Tall in the Saddle: he’s an orange banana lol. The Putinaire
Canson said on 2/Jan/21
@Slim: decent estimate. Maybe 184 today but not over
Vincent Caleb said on 2/Jan/21
Maybe Slim is right. It looks as thought he is barely scraping 183 today.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 1/Jan/21
@ Nik - I rather like T G Banana. The initials stand for TRUMPing Great BANANA! That's how my furry boys can be when they've overeaten, which happens from time to time. That's when I show them the door.....
😕😷🗣️ "$od off!" 🐈💨🐈💨
Scoobydoo said on 1/Jan/21
Of course, trump is 185 cm maybe 186 in the morning but not more nowadays
188 young im sure..
And Yeah barron is very close 2m , like a tower!!!
Slim 6'1" said on 1/Jan/21
Barron will easily be two meters tall
Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Jan/21
@ChaosControl
Ivanka Banana. Right on! I've never Vanka'd a banana before. Sounds cheeky and possibly illicit.
What about her namesake mum? Ivana. Ivana Banana. I'm sure she does. One Banana, Two Banana, Three Banana, Four...Tra La La..Tra La La La...
Forget Bananas. Ivana million dollars myself.
Then there's the juxtaposition: Melania Banana, who may or may not proclaim at some point, Ivana Divorce, just to further addle the already addled mind. A possible Banana Split, so to speak.
Just my opinion, 6'2" peak and 6'1/2" current pretty much bang on for the Big Banana. Apologies for the off topic comment re height.
Just some New Year Madness (the new normal) to get the ball rolling!
Happy New Year to All!!
Slim 6'1" said on 31/Dec/20
188 peak
183 current
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 31/Dec/20
@Nik Barron’s page can wait till he’s fully grown, I estimate he’ll be 6’8-6’9 as an adult
Nik Ashton said on 31/Dec/20
@ Sandy Cowell - It is better than been called the Trump brothers! What about Banana Trump?
Donald is about 10.2 bananas tall! 🍌
His son Barron needs a page and so does his daughter Tiffany!
Vincent Caleb said on 30/Dec/20
@Jordan87:
He looks minimum 195cm there.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 30/Dec/20
@Tall In The Saddle I think Ivanka Banana is the best one so far!
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 30/Dec/20
@ ChaosControl 6'2.5" - 'If only for the association!" Ha ha - precisely! I'm frequently asked if I'm related to Simon Cowell, but that's not embarrassing. My reply is, "Not that I'm aware...." or something similar, to which the typical reply is, "...but I bet you'd like his money!"
Now that's a tough one. 🤔
@ Nik - Two of my cats, the Banana brothers, are in total agreement with you! 🐈🐈👌
@ Tall In The Saddle - A-peeling indeed! I LIKE IT! 🍌🍌🍌👌
Every time I type 'Banana' into my phone, it's followed by the suggestion of the word 'Republic'. I feel we got off lightly last November: the mere thought of two of my brothers living in a Trump Republic is a very smelly one indeed! 😷 Mind you, nobody would notice if you gruffed in the Post Office queue, or anywhere else for that matter.
👉😐💨🤷♀️🤷♂️
Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Dec/20
@vastlybetter566
Totally agree with your post.
I'd also like to echo Vincent's well placed sentiment in so far as having absolute respect for everyone's voting choice, notwithstanding one's personal view of the elected official and/or party. One person, one vote, equal weight, majority choice, the essence of a true democracy.
I'll add, just IMO, when properly considered, the bulk of credit afforded Trump is as per his OWN narratives, no one else's. Neither bombast or having the advantage of being predisposed to conning reasonably trusting people equates to intelligence. He was never that articulate or well chosen with his words in the first place anyway. If he doesn't manage to contradict himself in the first instance, simple fact checking almost always brings his each and every claim undone.
He wasn't self made. Born into money and privilege. Allegedly borrowed far more money from his father than he admits. Then there was the later inheritance and claims other family members were diddled out of same. Reportedly there is a solid record of consecutive failed business ventures and other dubious set ups. By the time of The Apprentice, it is claimed that he was in financial dire straits. The irony is that the false portrayal of him being a savvy businessman on reality TV actually saw much needed income come his way from the show itself. It also served to propagate the myth that he knew what he was doing.
On the world stage, in the seat of absolute power, required to rationalize himself with more than just self aggrandizing bombast devoid of facts, he has been globally and absolutely exposed after somehow having risen well above the level of his incompetence.
Jordan87 said on 29/Dec/20
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Trump makes it to Barron's Eyelevel. This kid is between 6'4 and 6'5, possibly taller.
And Vastlybetter566, what you said about Trump is true in My Opinion, but you should shut your mouth about it. This is a Site about height, not politics. Try to let that set in for second, I know its harder for you than others here it would seem.
Rising174cm said on 29/Dec/20
Trump's height is genuinely confusing, especially post-2000. Here's a 65 year old Trump with 182 cm Christian Bale in 2011:
Click Here Compare that to how Trump looked just a year later with 6'2" Mark Sanchez. Now look at a 58 year old Trump back in 2004 with 6'2" (more 6'1.5", imo) Alex Rodriguez:
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Also, I make it a habit to avoid politics here, but regarding Trump the businessman, I'll say that his shadier practices towards contractors are unfortunately the norm with the other big NY builders. I've never looked seriously into his record as a businessman, but I don't just take the word of the anti-Trump people any more than I'd blindly trust the pro-Trump people. The NY Times, for instance, has an appalling history whether it's Stalin and the Holodomor, Fidel Castro or WMDs in Iraq.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 29/Dec/20
@vastlybetter566 well of course any guess under 6’3.5 must be liberal fake news voter fraud
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Dec/20
I also find the surname Banana far more a-peeling than Trump. Just go through the names yourself, each and everyone has a nice "ring" to it, e.g. Eric Banana, similar to the Aussie actor, right? Okay, I'll show myself out...LOL...but before I do...
The surnames Trump and Banana aren't as far removed as it first seems, especially if you throw in the word Republic.
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Dec/20
@vastlybetter566
Totally agree with your post.
I'd also like to echo Vincent's well placed sentiment in so far as having absolute respect for everyone's voting choice, notwithstanding one's personal view of the elected official and/or party. One person, one vote, equal weight, majority choice, the essence of a true democracy.
I'll add, just IMO, when properly considered, the bulk of credit afforded Trump is as per his OWN narratives, no one else's. Neither bombast or having the advantage of being predisposed to conning reasonably trusting people equates to intelligence. He was never that articulate or well chosen with his words in the first place anyway. If he doesn't manage to contradict himself in the first instance, simple fact checking almost always brings his each and every claim undone.
He wasn't self made. Born into money and privilege. Allegedly borrowed far more money from his father than he admits. Then there was the later inheritance and claims other family members were diddled out of same. Reportedly there is a solid record of consecutive failed business ventures and other dubious set ups. By the time of The Apprentice, it is claimed that he was in financial dire straits. The irony is that the false portrayal of him being a savvy businessman on reality TV actually saw much needed income come his way from the show itself. It also served to propagate the myth that he knew what he was doing.
On the world stage, in the seat of absolute power, required to rationalize himself with more than just self aggrandizing bombast devoid of facts, he has been globally and absolutely exposed after somehow having risen well above the level of his incompetence.
vastlybetter566 said on 28/Dec/20
822 votes on Trump's height so far. I hear many of them were illegally cast. We should take a closer look at the legal votes, Trump easily reaches 6ft3, if we only count them.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 28/Dec/20
@Nik if only for the association s with Donald
Nik Ashton said on 27/Dec/20
@ Sandy Cowell - I’d rather be called Banana than Trump!
6’0.5”.
vastlybetter566 said on 27/Dec/20
Arch Stanton, you are mistaken. Trump was known to be terrible buisnessman, even (or especially) inside his own family. He got very lucky, because his father was really wealthy and his brother was an alcoholic, who died young.
Trump is really good at playing a businessman, though, like Al Pacino is good at playing gangsters.
He is a scam artist and millions of Americans have fallen for it. I fell for it as well, many years ago. Don't want to make it seem as if I necessarily have a better judgment.
And Vincent Caleb, I don't think a con artist has to be of high intelligence. You underestimate how easily even smart people can be fooled. The most effective con artists are those that have fallen for their own scam.
Trump is pretty effective at lying to others, but I think he is most effective at lying to himself. I don't even think that he is aware of his lying.
vastlybetter566 said on 27/Dec/20
Arch Stanton, you are mistaken. Trump was known to be terrible buisnessman, even (or especially) inside his own family. He got very lucky, because his father was really wealthy and his brother was an alcoholic, who died young.
Trump is really good at playing a businessman, though, like Al Pacino is good at playing gangsters.
He is a scam artist and millions of Americans have fallen for it. I fell for it as well, many years ago. Don't want to make it seem as if I necessarily have a better judgment.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 27/Dec/20
There was a very funny question on the Christmas Chase last night. The contestant was asked which of three celebrities passed a law making it an offence to make fun of somebody's surname. The options were:
1) Laura Chinchilla,
2) Canaan Banana or
3) Donald Trump.
The answer was Canaan Banana. I think if it had been Donald Trump, I'd have been familiar with it, which I wasn't!
😂😂🤣💨🤧
Peak - 6ft2
Now - 6ft0.5
Slim 6'1" said on 24/Dec/20
Dipping into 183cm territory today
Canson said on 23/Dec/20
@Arch and Viper: do you think it’s his Senility kicking in? Unfortunately, Biden can sound flat at times and is not always articulate but he speaks with a bit more humility and dignity while it’s from his heart. I do agree with Tall in the Saddle where he doesn’t necessarily sound intelligent today while maybe he just is not very articulate today like you two said. I actually think he did sound smarter years back like with Oprah in their interview.
Vincent Caleb said on 23/Dec/20
@viper:
I didn’t vote for anyone in 2016 because I really don’t like Hillary, but he is not helping those who put him in office by trying to get his rich buddies big tax breaks IMO. I like the America First ideology that he says he has, but he needs to actually put America first and not his wealthy friends. His Economy was excellent short term, but it didn’t work for long. I think he did pretty well in 2016-18, but he needs to focus more on the people. I think Bill Clinton and Reagan also would have handled our current issues better than Trump did this past year or so. I respect your vote though no matter who you voted for, and maybe scamming was not the right word. I like Bill Clinton a lot more than Trump, I’ll just say that. Reagan is my favorite of the past 100 or so years.
viper said on 22/Dec/20
Agree with Arch
He certainly spoke better back in the day. Some think he dumbs down his vocabulary to the "masses" now. I don't know
And yet back in the 80s he was saying similar things about how we are getting ripped off from other countries.
Arch Stanton said on 21/Dec/20
Tall In The Saddle said on 18/Dec/20
"Trump is not at all smart. He often displays shocking ignorance, a distinct lack of education and logical thinking in many areas."
Yes, he comes across that way, he's not an intellectual of course and very knowledgeable generally, very ignorant about science and anything outside his sphere. But watch him in the 80s and that was a guy with a calculating brain who knew exactly what he wanted. To me he came across as a smart businessman back then, obviously most agreed as they thought him worthy of being the president.
viper said on 21/Dec/20
Vincent, I like his America first policies.
I guess he scammed me, lol
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Dec/20
@Vincent
My growth pattern was similar to your brother's, except that I stopped at more 19 than 18. I was probably around 6'1"-6'2" at 14.
Vincent Caleb said on 19/Dec/20
@recapa:
My memory is not too good, but I think he still grew a good amount until he was 18. I’m pretty sure he was 6’5” at 14, and got another 4 inches since then. Now that I think about it, I stopped growing earlier than I thought. I remember getting 6’1” right when I turned 14 then 6’4” right before I turned 15. I didn’t grow a full inch after 15. Was your growth early as well?
Canson said on 19/Dec/20
@J2Frenzy: agree 100%
Amadeus said on 19/Dec/20
Rob what do you think about Mohammed Bin Salman? Looking at his pictures next to Trump I estimate him to be around 6 to 6 1 range.
Editor Rob
yeah, Salman can look very similar range to Trump, so maybe over 6ft
Vincent Caleb said on 18/Dec/20
@Tall in the Saddle:
I have struggled with the idea of Trump’s intelligence for a while. When I listen to old interviews of him I hear an articulate well spoken man who knows how to get what’s he wants. When he suggests to inject disinfectant to cure coronavirus, he sounds utterly idiotic. I think he is an extremely smart con man, which does take a high IQ. He conned Americans into voting for him and his scams. His strategies in 2015-16 were pretty smart, despite his disregard for the well-being of the American people. He is only out for himself, yet he convinced 70-something million people to vote for him. I’ll give him credit there.
As for his height, I’d say 6’2” at his peak is possible, but definitely no higher. Sorry for the long political comment, I tried to add something about height at the end.
recapa said on 18/Dec/20
@Vincent,when did you and your brother stopped growing approximatly
Tall In The Saddle said on 18/Dec/20
Barron's ultimate height is anyone's guess. Too many variables involved for any hard conviction. We'll know soon enough if his growth rate continues or if it plateaus. Height wise, Barron is still heading north while his old man is heading south. In fact, the old man is heading south in ALL respects.
Trump is not at all smart. He often displays shocking ignorance, a distinct lack of education and logical thinking in many areas. His "successes" correlate far more with absolute ruthlessness than with any degree of notable intellect.
Vincent Caleb said on 16/Dec/20
Actually, Barron may not grow too much more. Now that I think about it, I stopped growing earlier than I thought. He could be an early grower. I think 6’6”-6’8” peak height could happen, but so could 6’5”-6’7”. 6’9” is a bit much. Still think he looked 195 next Eric Trump. I can’t see him under 6’4.5” since he looked at least an inch over Eric. I think Eric may be only 6’3.5”.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Dec/20
The dad looks like a nasty piece of work...maybe 6ft-6ft1 range peak. Still tall enough to produce sons between 6ft2 and 6ft4...and it obviously goes up from there
Jared and Ivankas kids have equal growth potential as do Eric and Lara Trumps kids. Not unrealistic that the next generation of Trump men could be 6ft7+!
Arch Stanton said on 15/Dec/20
You can be forgiven for drifting a bit into politics here, it's not a normal situation right now! Maybe Trump has a point on Section 230 allowing big websites to get away with too much. The censorship I've been seeing is getting worse, and always benefiting the left at the expense of the right, that's got to be curbed somehow. It needs revision rather than revoking I think, as if the big sites are liable to be sued for everything it's going to completely ruin what people can do and end up being even worse in terms of censorship.
A few of us here seem to agree on around 270, 19 stone is 266 pounds which seems in the ballpark, 260-270 pounds more likely than 244 and 284 anyway. BTW I don't think Trump's dad was ever his height, in his graduation photo see here
Click Here Maybe in his 20s he was closer to 6'1. His dad and Thor's Dad both look as if they could be a leader of Germany haha!
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Dec/20
Arch, I don’t think Trump is stupid at all...he plays to his strengths...winning the presidency wasn’t a shocker...but actually doing the job and hanging on to it for another four years is another matter
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Dec/20
Near 270lbs looks probable, 300 is an exaggeration...believe me I’ve seen guys Trumps height who weigh that and they have serious trouble walking properly and are out of gas very quickly....Trump isn’t quite there but if he continues this garbage lifestyle he will be
viper said on 10/Dec/20
Vincent I can buy as high as 270.
But 260 could also be right
Vincent Caleb said on 10/Dec/20
viper said on 5/Dec/20
Arch, big tech in America has been a dumpster fire in censoring republicans
Agreed
vastlybetter566 said on 10/Dec/20
Given how little interest Trump has in telling the truth, I'm surprised his height claim actually isn't that far off from his peak height. With Trump's ego and a peak height of about 6ft2, I would have expected a 6ft5 claim in younger years.
Lorne??? said on 9/Dec/20
El Alacran said on 27/Nov/20
As for Donald, Sr., current height 5'10" to 5'11". Probably 6'2" in dress shoes when younger but he has lost at least 3 inches as you can tell from the dowager's hump. From his gait and the throw of his spine when he stands or walks sometimes he wears lifts for an extra 2-3" and has trouble walking down ramps as shown in video. None of the medical exam reports made public have accurate information as to height or weight. Weight from 275-300.
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Come on people you cannot wear 2-3inch "lifts"
If you are Tom Cruise you can wear high cut boots with a lift in for a good 2.5in though it is clear
In a regular shoe, best you can do is a half inch lift which will only give about a cm. Dons have a 3.5' heel I think and give 2.3 basically; 1 inch lifts probably give about 2cm
That pic with his foot practically falling out of his shoe is weird though, what does everyone think of that?
Anyway Trump is whacky almost to the point of being 😂 funny, nah he is funny
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 9/Dec/20
He edged Clinton in the 90’s...
Arch Stanton said on 9/Dec/20
Yeah Viper I can see why he's doing it. You don't become a billionaire without a good brain, the Kardashians are much smarter than everybody thinks too, remember their father was one of the most brilliant lawyers in the US! Trump came across as very smart and measured back in the 70s-90s, particularly by late 80s, see his 80s interviews, if he was ever President it should have been around the time Bush Senior got in.
Be on the look out for lifts with him Duhon and Voiceless, it is possible!
Slim 6'1" said on 9/Dec/20
Shrunk to 183, give the downgrade already
TheBat said on 7/Dec/20
No more or under than 6’0” flat today. By his 80s he could be 5’11.5-5’11.75” max.
Mickie said on 7/Dec/20
I don't like to steer towards politics on a height site, but Politics is so crazy here in America at the moment and I think people should understand what they're reading particularly those who aren't actually here. You have Trump supporters who think he's the greatest president of all time and he will save the country, and you have Trump detractors who think he's the worst president of all time and will definitely destroy the country. The truth is Trump had mixed successes (such as improvements with peace in the Middle East, early economic successes, right to try) and failures (driving up the ballooning national debt after campaigning otherwise, not really "draining the swap" like he promised, inflammatory and childish remarks, debatably his handling on Covid but yes thats very much subject to opinion as the whole thing is unprecedented). My point being that I think it is helpful for people to step back and realize Trump is not Hitler and he's not Jesus, no matter what you think about him it's better to let cooler heads prevail and not buy into a narrative.
Peak 6'2" is fine (I wouldn't go more but definitely not much less if any) maybe a 6'0.25" update for 2021 would be appropriate as he's still probably creeping down.
john bomfire said on 6/Dec/20
went to his rally, can tell that he's 6 on a good day, I even looked up the height of the podium...
Duhon said on 6/Dec/20
@voiceless that picture of his foot heel almost falling out his shoe and his odd leaning posture
Click Here are tell tale signs of shoe lifts.
viper said on 5/Dec/20
Arch, big tech in America has been a dumpster fire in censoring republicans
Ethan Larsen said on 5/Dec/20
I don't buy the claim of 6ft 2 or him ever being 6ft 3. There is a photo of 6ft 3.3 Jesse Jackson beside him in 87' and he looks 6ft 1.5 at the most. They both seem to be standing straight too.
I have Donald Trump at 6ft 1.5 peak height and 6ft 0.5 now.
Click Here
Canson said on 5/Dec/20
@Viper: he has been consistent in that aspect but that should’ve said a lot back in 2014-16 when he ran
Vincent Caleb said on 5/Dec/20
Trump can look 6 feet flat more recently. Weight I’d say is 260. 286 is just way too high. Obviously 239 is too low, but I don’t think it’s any more of a lie than 286.
Skolvikes_2020 said on 4/Dec/20
6' 2" peak for sure. He looked as tall as Bill Clinton back in the day who was also a solid 6' 2" and much taller than Reagan in his presidental days who was hovering a strong 5' 11" range at the time. I would say 6' 0.25" now because he looks a half inch shorter than Obama (who is a tad under a full 6' 1") if you account for the illusion of Trumps hair. Also a picture probably more almost ten years ago shows Trump who was in his mid 60s looking at least a 1.25-1.5 inches shorter than 6' 2" Mark Sanchez back then.
viper said on 4/Dec/20
What will Colbert talk about once Trump is out of office? He's obsessed, more so than most of his detractors.
viper said on 4/Dec/20
Trump no doubt has sociopathic qualities and is a narcissist.
Though, a lot of presidents have been. Trump is just so open about it, lol
I do think people underestimate his intelligence. I can't quite put my finger on it. He knew the political landscape in 2015 and to run on an America first populist message. He was elected president when most everyone thought he didn't have a chance.
Trump has actually been consistent since the 1980s on his general messaging.
Canson said on 3/Dec/20
@Vincent: he did some good with the economy early on but short of that he was one of the worse if not the worst
Tall In The Saddle said on 3/Dec/20
Apologies for the length of and repetition in my previous post. I wrote an orig. post but it appeared that I had "lost" the text in the field altogether so I wrote another and then both posted. My bad.:(
Standing up, Trump's posture is strange also and actually correlates somewhat to the degree his heel is out of shoe when sitting down. Like he's been jacked up at the heel but at an angle, causing a forward lean which he isn't compensating for with a lean back.
I also don't know if Mr T is quite as high as 270 lb. At a healthy weight I wouldn't call him big framed. 6'2" peak Brian Wilson, who was bigger framed IMO, admitted to 300 lbs at his heaviest and at that time, Brian looked somewhat heavier. Perhaps Brian himself understated his weight at the time but he did stand 6'2" when he carried that weight. Mr T is barely 6' and, IF there are lifts involved, then Mr T is that much shorter again. At 245 lbs, Mr T is deemed obese even at 6'2" and more so for his true standing height of about 6' and more so again if he is below 6'.
Eric W Tam said on 3/Dec/20
How tall would you guys peg Amy Coney Barrett at? Listed as 5'6 or 5'7 everywhere (not Google though, they don't take her height into account). Looks Google doesn't take any politician's height into account unless they are running for president.
Editor Rob
somewhere in 5ft 6 range I could believe
Arch Stanton said on 3/Dec/20
Largely agree with you Tall in the Saddle, I do think though that there's a lot of celebs who are often looking for attention and praise though and bold statements about Trump or race/sexuality are often a way to get attention or conform with a group of people. Tall Sam, maybe I'd feel more like you if I was American rather than British. He's certainly very selfish, he's currently threatening to revoke section 230 which protects Big Tech from being sued over users content/treatment of users (so he can sue Twitter etc), which if successful would dramatically increase censorship online over everybody out of fear of being sued. Would be a very stupid thing to do.
Voiceless, to me the shoes look too low to be lifts I think, he wouldn't be able to walk in them if his feet were out the back like that. I'd say he just moved his foot out of the shoe but be on the look out for lifts, you could certainly imagine somebody like him wearing them!!
Voiceless said on 3/Dec/20
Rob,
could Trump be a lift-wearer?
Click Here
Editor Rob
I don't know about ballot-stuffing, but Trump is certainly shoe stuffing.
but seriously, either he's sliding out of his shoes or something is going on there.
Tall In The Saddle said on 2/Dec/20
@Vincent Caleb
All conquering bone spurs, hitherto not diagnosed. That is a 3 point swish shot. Before that, 4 deferments in deference to College (aka wealthy privilege).
Military personnel don't get nearly enough respect, admiration or support (in real time or post war) for the ultimate sacrifice. Particularly no support from those who, without their own prior service, often strenuously avoided, go on to decide when, how and against whom the masses should fight in unquestioned service to their country. You can be anti war or, at least question the justification of a specific engagement but still respect and appreciate the service of those, conducted in absolute good faith, intention and selflessness while also understanding they are obviously not the ones making the crucial decisions.
IMO, the manifest ratio for celebrities who are either pro or anti Trump, represented by their expressed "voice" is reasonably in line with reality. I don't believe there is a so called ANTI bandwagon being jumped on or a noteworthy celebrity contingent of Trump supporters who remain "hidden", reluctant to speak out. Of course I don't begrudge a celeb (or anyone else) for merely supporting Trump but let's face it, of those celebs who have made it known, their own thoughts on politics and all else are highly questionable anyway. Voight was more than just a bit extreme. Then you have Randy Quaid and Kanye West, the latter having since jumped ship. If they supported me, I would politely decline their vote of confidence lest my credibility be impugned by association. As it is, Trump takes any support he can get UNTIL they utter one ounce of opposition, then it immediately pivots from previous adoration and recommendation to outright malice, defamation and rejection. LOL.
As to talk show hosts, yeah, there is clear over saturation re politics. Their primary job is to entertain but they often allow their own egos and personal opinions transcend all else. I used to like Colbert prior to his being a talk show host but he is one of the worst offenders. It's the same thing, over and over. Also, he will ask his guest a question and then offer half the answer before his guest can even speak. He doesn't appear to listen to his guests, rather, as they speak, he seems to be thinking up his next "pearl of wisdom" to drop in. And, the "new normal" of artificially relaxed broadcasts from home etc. are totally unprofessional IMO. Constantly sipping from their mugs front and center, cliched jokes as to the "true" content of their mugs, aside chats with crew, wife, off camera, audible off camera chuckles, implied "uncontrollable" laughter to themselves, overly casual dress, etc. Fallon? Great on SNL but awful as a talk show host, overly gushing and false. They're also the last people to personally bemoan the impact of COVID given their more than sufficient wealth to negate the effects of same.
Give me Conan and Ferguson any day. Intelligent, spontaneous and a good dose of downright crazy. Suffice to say, the chemistry between Conan and equally off beat Jeff Goldblum is off the charts. A meeting of two great, all be they twisted, minds. LOL.
I think there are simply far more celebrities who acutely oppose Trump than there are those who support him. I think the celebrity voice represented from either side reasonably reflects the true ratio as opposed to a "silent" celebrity contingent reluctant to speak out in favor of the POTUS.
Of course they shouldn't be judged for their mere support of Trump but judging them on their own political comments and attitudes, I find them extremely flawed and indicative of a certain type of follower that Trump attracts. Voight was more than a bit extreme. Then you have Randy Quaid and Kanye West to name another two with Kayne having since jumped ship.
Narcissistic Sociopaths operate very well at a reduced level of public exposure and accountability. They can move between people under separate cover, defaming person A to person B and visa versa, escalating tensions and division, more power to them with neither of other said parties being the wiser unless they bothered to compare notes. That hasn't worked in the Presidential arena or, at least, it hasn't been well hidden. We've counted numerous lies, contradictions, position changes, initial adoring praise and later immediate rejection and expulsion of those who voiced even the slightest opposition, all revealed on center stage.
The man is not notably intelligent and, in many instances, shockingly ignorant. Even without a high IQ, a distinct lack of morality and principles, concealed by transparent rhetoric can get you quite far to a point and certainly, there are some who are more easily taken in than others. Many would have this guy pegged from the moment they met or saw him.
As to the talk show hosts. Yeah, their sole focus on him goes beyond the pale. Particularly Colbert, who I used to like. I'm also tired of the contrived, choreographed, relaxed broadcasts from home as per the "new normal" of COVID. Shifting their eyes from the audience view point for an aside "chat" with those off camera, whose random "chuckles" can be periodically heard, Hosts constantly sipping from their mugs, posturing, posing, dressed overly casual, breaking down in "random" and "uncontrolled" laughter, etc. A new level of Artificial.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 2/Dec/20
@Fanz
Lashley's closer to the camera though.
viper said on 2/Dec/20
Many Trumpers won't admit it and democrats would agree, that some of Trump's popularity is because he's "entertaining"
He goes overboard on the tweets but he can be funny, and entertaining during his rallies.
Others are put off by that and that is certainly reasonable.
Like tall sam and vincent have said he's just not presidential like we know
Yet the other half like it
Vincent Caleb said on 1/Dec/20
Sub-par president. 6’2” peak 6’0.25” now. Not the worst one, but not good, especially this year. Imagine making fun of a prisoner of war for getting capture. My grandpa was a POW and can’t stand this dude cause of what he said. All of this coming from the dude who dodged the draft cause of “bone Spurs”.
Mickie said on 1/Dec/20
Peak 6'2" is good (no higher) current maybe around 6'0.25" - 6'0.5" but I don't think he's necessarily quite as heavy as some say. I could believe 270, but I wouldn't be shocked if he weighed more like 250s either.
Tall Sam said on 1/Dec/20
He gets a lot of support here in the states and a lot of "he's not so bad" comments on here but there is a reason he is openly despised by many here...I've lived through many presidencys and have never seen a sitting president like this with an apparent complete lack of empathy, an essentially open desire to invite corruption into the office and skirt both law and decency, barely disguised dog whistles of bigotry and xenophobia, hateful disregard towards the environment and science, I could go on...
This page strikes me as toxic enough to pass for a nuclear dump site, the last thing I need is after ceaselessly reading on most sites about this man and all his cronies and children is to read about him here. I enjoy celebheights very much but sorry, I think I need a little break, a detox.
Arch Stanton said on 30/Nov/20
Another thing I've observed is that there's certain celeb people in America who just seem to jump on the Trump hating bandwagon because it's the popular thing to do. The chat show hosts like Fallon and Corden come across that way, like they're trying to be cool and be popular. It reminds me of those geeky kids in school who tried to impress the cool kids. When I see a celeb stand out and support Trump I actually respect their honesty on it as they're going to get a major backlash, even if somebody like Jon Voight is a bit extreme.
Anyway, nuff said about Trump and the media, 6'0.5 and 270 pounds is my guess now!
Arch Stanton said on 30/Nov/20
Yes Canson, particularly pre 2000, in the 80s and 90s Trump seemed a LOT more intelligent and measured, back in the 80s you can see why people kept talking about him being president. His outlook might still be the same but he's become like a pantomine character in a way the last five years, just seems to create such polarised opinions of him, it's not a good thing. I do think the absolute hatred some have of him is as ridiculous as some of the Venezuela claims, he's hardly Hitler.
Nah I'm really not generally into US politics Sandy, as I said that world is way too toxic for me. I've shown a keen interest in the elections though because it will have a massive impact on the world in the next few years. I'm sick of the press talking about Trump and him dominating the headlines!