Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Harry Sachs: not sure if Foreman had lost height by then. I believe he was a legit 6’3-6’3 1/8 peak but Conan I never believed 6’4” for him. I always thought 6’3.25-.5 peak tops perhaps just 6’3.25 and a morning measurement of close to 6’4 which he rounded
HarrySachs said on 19/Jun/18
Click Here Here is Foreman with Conan O'Brien
HarrySachs said on 19/Jun/18
Click Here Here is Foreman and David Letterman
Richie said on 12/Jun/18
I saw George Foreman close up at the Cardiff Arms Park back in 93' when Lewis fought Bruno, he was working for HBO as a commentator. I would say he was a strong 6'3"and not 6'4" as his stats suggest.
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Jun/18
I prev. linked the McMahon-Foreman clip on the Clint Eastwood page. They are very close in height. I would give Foreman the slight edge but the diff. is nothing to write home about. Aside from and before Celebheights McMahon was uniformly listed as 6'4" - as he described himself - doesn't mean that height was exactly correct but it was the more common listing. Celebheights has Ed at 6'3.25" but the analytical discussion on Ed is just a few posts. Ed is about 50 yo in the clip. If he was 6'4" peak I wouldn't drop him below 6'3.5" at age 50 and the man still stood very straight - possibly retaining most if not all of his peak height. Ed enlisted in the Marines 1941 age 18 so it would be interesting if his recorded physical stats could be obtained - there are a lot of celebs to compare him against - but advancing years and some height loss have to be accounted for.
HarrySachs said on 2/Jun/18
Click Here Here is the 6'3 Foreman with the listed 6'3 Ed McMahon.
Tall In The Saddle said on 20/May/18
McMurphy - I've seen the first pic before and have to admit, Holmes looks clearly taller than Foreman but the perspective appears to favour Holmes and footwear is indeterminate.
As I estimate them, Foreman and Holmes should be equal in height (6'3.5" a piece) and there are a few photos out there to support that but it appears that older George has dropped more height than older Holmes.
McMurphy said on 16/May/18
Foreman and holmes. In the first pic Holmes looks a bit taller, his shoes may have a bit more heel height by the style. A bit of perspective advantage too. Foreman is wearing loafers.
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In this second pic they look the same height.
Holmes has a slender neck/head, Foreman higher shoulders.
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Tall In The Saddle said on 11/May/18
Link to a contemporaneous RING article author Nat Loubet on then 19 YO GF fresh off Olympic victory looking ahead to turning pro - height listed as at that time 6'3.5"
Click Here (scroll down about 80% of the page)
Of course such citations aren't be all end all proof on their own but given all other ref. points I think 6'3.5" is a fair call.
Btw, it was stated earlier in the thread that Foreman was measured as a 19 yo amateur at 6'3" - can the author of that claim point to a source/link?
Canson said on 8/May/18
Out of bed 192.4 peak
Before bed 190.5 peak
Solid 6’3” as listed
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/May/18
IMO GF was about 6'3.5" at absolute peak - during prefight instructions GF was clearly about 1" taller than Ali and Lyle.
Here is the perfect view point to judge Foreman relative to Ali - go to 20:14 of the footage in Zaire:-
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I see the GF v Lyle fight linked earlier in thread to suggest GF and Lyle of equal height. Look again Grasshopper, Foreman is clearly taller.
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Look further into clip at 16:52 when GF and Lyle face off at the end of the round - up close and personal and again, Foreman is clearly taller than Lyle despite Ronnie standing as straight as possible to get all up in Foreman's grill (pun intended).
AAAA said on 5/Mar/18
If Foreman is 6'3 so if Harry Carson and Lawrence Taylor. Carson is RIGHT next to Foreman and they look dead even, despite George tilting his head up a bit. Shortest guy there is Thomas Hearns (listed 6'1, many claim closer to 6'2, but many also lie). Tallest guy is Spencer Haywood (6'7-6'9 listings, call it 6'8)
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What do you all peg the heights at. I have pics of Carson on the Lawrence Taylor Page, as well as one with him next to Jeter. Check em all out.
even said on 27/Feb/18
prime = 6 foot 3 , age 69 = 6 foot 2
Jordan87 said on 12/Feb/18
@ Even,
He was 220-226 lbs during his younger years, as in when he fought Ali, Lyle and Frazier. He was only 250+ when he came back in the late 80's. He also weighed once up t 265 pounds.
even said on 25/Jan/18
as a champ George Foreman was 6 foot 3 inches tall , he also weighed 250 pounds . today he cant be under 6 foot 2 .
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
Peak 6’3 flat as listed
Dwain said on 28/Dec/17
Foreman is defo taller than Ali. Ali looked about 6-2 1/2. Foreman is at least 6-3 if not 6-3 1/2 he was defo taller than Ali.
Canson said on 10/Dec/17
@Harry Sachs: I wouldn’t doubt him having lost height at that age honestly. I know I saw Robert Broome post on Larry Holmes page that he met him recently and he’s still 6’3 surprisingly tho
Harrysachs said on 9/Dec/17
Well I can't find many pictures with Foreman and other boxers anymore Canson. That is the most recent picture/video of him with somebody with a confirmed height. That guy in the video claims to be 6'2. Foreman looks shorter than that guy. So based on that I doubt Foreman is even 6'2 anymore.
Canson said on 5/Dec/17
@Harry Sachs: you think he’s dipped 2”? May be right but I figured he’d still be similar height although I haven’t seen him lately
HarrySachs. said on 4/Dec/17
Click Here The guy in the video is 6'2. Foreman looks shorter than him. Foreman appears to have lost a lot of height. I doubt Foreman is even 6'2 now.
Canson said on 12/Nov/17
Agree with Danimal.
A peak foreman was for sure 6’3”. I know someone who met him at 6’3” and they were the exact same height. Holmes was also 6’3” peak while Ali was 6’2-6’2.5 peak
Danimal said on 10/Nov/17
I read 6'3.5" claims back in the 90's. I could believe the flat 6'3" for him though. Ali was clearly shorter (6'2"-6'2.5") during his prime.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 20/Oct/17
No less than 6ft3
Canson said on 19/Oct/17
@Harry Sachs: as for Foreman he obviously isn’t 6’4”. He was likely at most 6’3” prime. Ali actually said he’s 6’2.5 or the same height as him but that’s also an assumption that Ali and he were the exact same and that Ali measured at his lowest at the 6’2.5. Both could be off and likely foreman is taller as the person I know who who met the guy is 6’3” today even in his 50s (190.3cm at night) and said that he and foreman are eye level. My guess is if foreman and Ali are eye level that foreman is still slightly taller. Even if the difference is 6’3 to 6’2.5 or 6’2 3/4 or 7/8 to 6’2.5
HarrySachs said on 13/Oct/17
Is something wrong with you Reece? Well that is the rhetorical question because clearly something is very wrong with you. You disagree with the people who measured Foreman as a 19 year old amateur at 6'3 230 and you disagree with the people who measured Foreman as a 28 year older against Jimmy Young at 6'3 and around 230? Great for you.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Sep/17
I actually thought 191-192cm range for Foreman
Canson said on 28/Sep/17
@Reece: he wasn't an inch taller I aveee with Harry Sachs. Maybe 1/2" Ali at 6'2.5 is no guarantee that's his lowest. I claimed 6'4.5 for the longest but come down to 6'4.33 and some days 6'4.25 if I go to the gym. Ali could be the same meaning foreman wasn't over 6'3.
Canson said on 28/Sep/17
@Harry Sachs I saw Rob's quote above but I went more off how he looked with Wade. Now the pic with wade may not be accurate enough. But I highly doubt Dwayne wade is over 6'3" flat I think foreman prime may have really been 6'3 tho because someone who met him said they were the same height. Maybe worst case he was 6'2.75 at his lowest. But he was taller than Ali was imho. Ali was prob 6'2.25-.5 foreman could been 6'3 flat max
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Sep/17
Rob, how likely is 189cm?
Editor Rob
I don't think Ali and foreman were that far apart, but 1.5 inches apart seems too much, I think Foreman was giving a shoe height when he claimed 6ft 4.
Reece said on 27/Sep/17
@HarrySachs. I disagree. You don't have to message me if you don't want to.
HarrySachs said on 26/Sep/17
Canson have you seen him with any current heavyweights recently? I tried to find pictures with him with any current fighters. That would show how tall he is today.
HarrySachs said on 26/Sep/17
Reece wave discussed this 1 billion times. Foreman was measured barefooted at 19 and he was 6'3. His last fight against Jimmy Young when he was 28 he was still measured at 6'3. Ali was 6'2.
Reece said on 22/Sep/17
Foreman must be 6-3.5 then because Ali was 6-2.5 at least.
Canson said on 22/Sep/17
He's nothing more prime than 6'3" but likely didn't dip below it. Today at his age likely 6'2 range based on how he looks
Editor Rob
I added a quote above by Ali, he was saying in 74 that both he and Foreman were 6ft 2.5.
Aswin MK said on 9/Sep/17
Rob - I don't remember clearly, but I read somewhere in a boxing site that he was measured as 6 foot 3.5 inches when he won the gold medal. 6 foot 3 is just about right, but having seen his matches again Ali, 6 foot 2ish Ron Lyle and around 6 foot 3 Ken Norton, I would easily say he was around the 6 foot 3.5 mark, might need an upgrade to 6 foot 3.25 atleast as he is at least 0.75 to 1 inch taller than the 6 foot 2.5ish Muhammed Ali.
Editor Rob
it would be interesting to find this 6ft 3.5.
Canson said on 18/Aug/17
Peak height 6'3" like Harry Sachs said. That is evident with Ali Holmes and Norton
Maybe only 6'2" range today since he is in near 70
Logan said on 16/Aug/17
About 6,3-6,4 probaly 6,3 now
harrysachs said on 10/Aug/17
Agreed KH. Ken Norton was measured by the Marines at 6'2 3/4 and was clearly taller than Ali. So I don't see why people like Reece still insisting Ali was 6'3. Ali was 6'2, Ken Norton was 6'2 3/4 and Foreman was 6'3 in his prime. Most likely today Foreman is shorter than 6'3
KH said on 7/Aug/17
Ali was more like a strong 6'2 then 6'2.5 or 6'3. Foreman was about an inch taller. 6'3.5 peak for Big George in his prime.
Canson said on 31/Jul/17
@Harry Sachs: agreed solid 6'3" at his peak may be shorter today by a fraction
Reece said on 24/Jul/17
Looked a full inch taller than Ali but no more. 6-3 and 6/4 seems fair.
McMurphy said on 20/Jul/17
Weak 6ft4 - 193 cm range.
He looked less than an inch taller than Ali, a couple centimeters no more.
Reece said on 6/Jul/17
190 is hard to believe. He looked a inch bigger than a 6-2.5/6-3 Ali. 192-193cm range
even said on 5/Jul/17
190 cm is the real height of the real champ
harrysachs said on 19/Jun/17
Canson I was typing to the other guy who claims Ali is 6'3 so Foreman was 6'4 plus. I already stated that Foreman was measured at 6'3 and then I put up tons of pictures of him to prove my point.
Canson said on 5/Jun/17
@Harry Sachs: you posted that to James and me like we are upgrading foreman. I had him af 6'3" all along and just said there is a possibility he's 6'3.25 not that he for sure is. That for sure would be the max however
Leon said on 28/May/17
Foreman was a inch taller than Ali who was not fully 6-3 but 6-2 1/2. Ali was billed 6-3 1/2 on a show with Howard Cossel but i think he had a 1 inch heel advantage. Foreman was 6-3 1/2 tops.
HarrySachs said on 28/May/17
Reece. 95 percent of the contenders in the 70s were beween 6'2 to 6'6 just like today. Being a certain height in the 70s is the same height is it today. Ron Lyle was listed at 6'3. Could he have been 6'2 1/2? Possibly but I never seen him listed at that height.
Shannon Briggs is taller than Foreman. You are just using one picture to try prove your point. You can't see George feet so you don't know if he is standing on something or not. I saw that picture and thought to myself Foreman is 6'3 and Briggs is basically the same height as him. But in the ring Briggs looked taller than Foreman.
Reece said on 27/May/17
Click Here Even Ignoring the Afro is easily looking tall. Lyle used to tower over oppenents in the 1970s he must be 6-2.5 at least. and Briggs was not a inch taller than Foreman his hair is fooling.
Click Here. if u ignore the hair they look about the same. Briggs has likely lost some height. look well shorter than Wlad Kiltschko in the Gym. Briggs is probably more a Broad 6-3 guy.
HarrySachs said on 27/May/17
Ryan Shannon Briggs claims 6'4 and is taller than George Foreman by at least a inch.
Ryan said on 12/May/17
Looks very tall here. he claimed to be 6-4 in his older years and looks it legit.
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HarrySachs said on 1/May/17
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN)You should learn how to type better. I am sure most people here can't understand what you are trying to get across
ArjunaKorale said on 28/Apr/17
@david. You make some valid points...but I still believe that Ali was easily the best World Heavyweight Champ ever. Come on, David, as skilled & as marvellous as Joe Louis & Jack Johnson were for their time, neither would have had the style to beat Ali. You say that Ali had a lot of close fights...and, yes, the two opponents that come to mind are Frazier & Ken Norton. The Ali, however, who lost to Joe Frazier was not a peak fighter...a peak Ali was the Ali of the 1960s, who was TRULY A DANCE MASTER...1960s ALI WAS CLOSE TO BEING THE PERFECT HEAVYWEIGHT in my book. I'd pick a 1960s Ali over Holmes too...just too much speed (of hands & feet) & too much mental strength/confidence. And then we have KEN NORTON...I have watched all three Ali vs Norton fights & I have Ali ONLY winning their second fight...Ken beat Ali 2 out of 3 in my opinion (I strongly believe that)...but STYLES MAKE FIGHTS and Ali's boxing style was tailor made for unorthodox Norton...yet Ali was easily able to handle a bruising, clubbing, super-puncher like George Foreman...the same Foreman who totally annihilated Norton in less than 2 short rounds - go figure!!! AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I LOVE THE SWEET SCIENCE!
david said on 25/Apr/17
@ArjunaKorale. Their all great Champions. however we all define Greatness in loads of ways. i say their is no best ever. it is way too tough. Ali beat some of the Greatest Boxers but he had a lot of close Fights he struggled in he wasnt the Dance Master he was portrayed as. the Foreman and Young was actually quite close. Jack Johnson was great but i felt he was a bit overlooked he lost 13 times but deserves a lot of credit for being the first black champion. Larry Holmes and Foreman were close the Fighting in 1999 but i agree Holmes would have outboxed Foreman.
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
Luke he's either 4 or 5. He's 6'3
ArjunaKorale said on 24/Apr/17
I see a peak, 1970s Foreman at around 191 cm (6 ft 3.25) tall & nothing more. Foreman was without question one of the best heavyweight champions ever, but THE best ever? I don't think so! In the May 2017 issue of The Ring magazine, a large panel of experts ranked Foreman the number 7th greatest heavyweight of all time. Ali was ranked by all experts as the number 1, Joe Louis as number 2, Jack Johnson at number 3 and Larry Holmes as number 5. I agree with them wholeheartedly. Ali walloped Foreman out in 8 rounds & even Jimmy Young, a talented yet unlucky, heavyweight boxer hammered Foreman over 12 rounds, knocking him down to the canvas. The 190 cm tall Holmes was every bit as big physically as Ali & had great stamina just like Ali. Holmes was tough enough, clever enough, mobile enough & quick enough to expose Big George. Foreman always had trouble with clever boxers like Ali & Young and I'm 100 percent certain that Larry would have beaten George too.
luke said on 23/Apr/17
Hello their Rob! which of these do you think is more likely for George Foreman Peak Height
1.194.5/192.5
2. 194/192
3.193.5/191.5
4.193/191
5.192.5/190.5
Rory said on 13/Apr/17
I reckon 6'3.25 peak.
Canson said on 10/Apr/17
@Harry Sachs: i agree. I'm positive he was not 6'5" looking at him next to Ali. Ali was 6'2" and change 189cm peak. That's the problem here on this site is when someone has an idea for someone else's height they always inflate the people around them to make that person the height they want them to be. I see that every day in general a self proclaimed 6'4 guy who is 6'3 barefoot sometimes even 6'2.5 (claiming shoes) stands next to me at a weak 194cm and is nowhere near in height. But afros They all wore afros in the 70s. Foreman at a strong 6'3 (6'3-6'3.25) makes the most sense as the person I know who met him would've immediately spotted that he was taller than him. He said Forman and him were eye to eye when he met him. Maybe foreman was 1/4" taller because that won't be as noticeable but a full inch I agree is noticeable enough especially when foreman himself said he's 6'3"
George said on 8/Apr/17
HarrySachs.i dont think he is 6-4 like Reece i would say he was 6-3.5 tops and i would go with that. but It is his view just leave him to it. no need to get so emotional about it.
HarrySachs said on 6/Apr/17
Canson/James
Click Here Go to the 7:00 mark. Foreman is listed at 6'3 224. Norton At 6'3 212. I put up pictures of Norton standing side by side with Ali and Norton is taller. Ali had a higher hair style which made him look closer to Norton's height. I put up links Foreman being measured as a 20-21 year old barefooted at 6'3 230. I put up pictures of Norton and Foreman standing side by side. No pictures of Foreman or Norton closed to the camera. But pictures that show them side by side and Foreman is only slightly taller than Norton.
We are talking about Foreman's barefooted height. Not his height in shoes. Just because Reece has some sexual thing for his hero Ali and keeps trying to put him at 6'3 1/2 even though he is shorter than the 6'2 3/4 inch Norton proves nothing.
Then he is one of these people who isn't smart enough to admit he is wrong. So he just lies about it. He claims Lyle is 6'3 and Foreman is 2 inches taller than him. Which of course lie. That would make Foreman 6'5. Which is funny because I put up a picture of a 40 year old Foreman next to the 6'4 1/2 Riddick Bowe and clearly Bowe is more than a inch taller than Foreman.
Reece will look at pictures where one guy is closer to the camera and try to use that to prove his little point. He isn't smart enough to realize guys lie about their height. So because Lyle said was 6'3 didn't mean he was.
Click Here There is the actually stare down between Lyle and Foreman. Foreman and Lyle are clearly the same height. Foreman just had a much higher afro than Lyle. Which again just proves how Reece lies to prove his point
Canson said on 1/Apr/17
@James: I agree 100%. He maybe was a 6'4" out of bed guy in the 70s or 60s and maybe 6'3.25 at his low which still makes him a strong 6'3". A lot of "6'4" guys will get measured early morning and be an entire inch shorter than I am (6'4.33) because they were measured early AM and rounded up and loosely claim it
Canson said on 1/Apr/17
@Reece: the person who met him is in his early 60s and he met him in the 80s in pretty sure. That's fine if you believe Chucky. We're all here to debate but why is that you take the person who claims the most height for someone instead? You do that for every person you comment on including Deontay Wilder
James said on 31/Mar/17
He was 6'4 with shoes on
Reece said on 29/Mar/17
Chucky said on 15 may 2016
Met him 15 years ago,easily 6-4 i am also 6-4 eye to eye. so Chucky and the person you know both meet Foreman and say different things. i still am sticking to 6-4 or close. just because one person says that but then Chucky who claims to met him too says different. oh and did the person you say met him meet him in the 70s or 90s or when he would have started losing some Height? Dundee said Ali was 6-2 but before the Terell Fight he said Ali was 6-4,Ali was not 6-4 but many commentators used to refer to him as a Touch under 6-4 which would mean 6-3 to 6-3.5.Sachs says Norton is taller than Ali,but i looked at them in the RING in flats Norton could have more in footwear in sachs pictures. they were the Same Height or Ali looked a touch taller in some bits. Norton was not taller in the Staredowns.Ali was listed 6-2.5 then moved up to 6-3 and he did look it next to Sonny Liston. my opinion still stands.
Canson said on 27/Mar/17
Man "can" grow until 25 but doesn't mean they do. How are you so sure Ali grew? Or Foreman? Harry Sachs said it well that he's shorter than Norton as well. So for that to be true it would mean that Norton grew. In short, what you are claiming is too many people grew. Foreman in his peak was 6'3 range. Sure maybe he was a strong 6'3" maybe he only came down as low as 6'3.25 but if a 6'3" person has met him and said they were the same height it's more likely that Foreman isn't 6'4".
Reece said on 26/Mar/17
Physlogical advantage. When Foreman had his height measured he often used to slouch a lot. Look at Ring stare downs. Lyle and Norton and Ali were all shorter than George. Lyle looked almost 2 inches shorter and Ali and Norton were shorter by a inch. Ali could have grown another inch because men can grow till 25. Ali put 6'2.5 but without knowing he grew another inch. Physiological ploy to intimate oppenents in the Ring when the look up and see how big he is. Wlad Kiltschko seems to do the same. I wonder why when he fights in Germany he is billed 6,6.5 but he claims to be 6-5.
Canson said on 26/Mar/17
@Harry Sachs: I agree with everything you said about Ali and Norton. Ali had 6'2.5 on his passport which is likely rounded my guess is he could be 6'2.25 and norton 6'2.75.
@Reece: why would foreman claim 6'3" like he did above when he is truly 6'4"? Most guys do not undercut themselves they inflate
Reece said on 24/Mar/17
apa rava said on 26/Oct/13
I think George was about 6.3 and a half. He is about one inch taller then muhammad ali and ken norton, both of them were about 6.3(between 190-191 cm).
I have no doubt that George is strong 6.3 and a half. maybe even 6.4.
he was 192 or 192.5 cm
Ali was about 190 or 190.5
Chazlinc said on 30/Sep/15
6'4" in 70s prime maybe shorter now. George was a hustler. He also undersold his height and reach. It was part of his schtick. He wouldn't let the commission measure his reach. He'd hunch over to register 6'3" when they measured him.....then in ring Center at the instructions he'd pull back his shoulders and stand up straight..look at the ali and lyle fights...Ron was every bit 6'3"...when George stood up straight he was a full inch...maybe more..taller
these are some that agree with me than George was a strong 6-3 and one guy says 6-4. all you need to do is check staredowns. Foreman was taller than Lyle who looked every bit 6-3.so for you thinking 6-3 do you know it all? its my opinion grow up.
Reece said on 24/Mar/17
Click Here. 3.01 ALI is not shorter than Norton at all your pictures Ali could have a disadvantage in footwear. Norton has a better posture he is not taller than Ali all you need to do is look at is the stare down with 0.5 inch boxing shoes. Ali posture is not always the best and Norton is.so no in the Ring Norton actually looked a tad shorter than Ali. if i am deluded then so is Christopher Lee who is 6-5 and said Ali was a tall man and all the Boxers like Cooper and Bugner saying he was 6-3.
Click Here. Ali in Fight 3 with Norton and he is at the very least the same if not slightly taller. Sachs if i am so wrong so me a picture of a good angle in the boxing ring not outside we know the footwear could be keyed norton could have a dresser shoe on. both in Flats Ali was actually slightly taller and Foreman was taller than both. i stand by 6-4.
Click Here min 6.43 Foreman a inch taller than Norton. my pictures are with both in flats so this is better proof Foreman could be 6-4.
HarrySachs said on 23/Mar/17
Carson clearly Reece is one of those people who just think he knows is all. Just ignore people like that. He is not worth trying to explain anything too. But since you already understand that Foreman is/was 6'3 at his peak then let me show you this. Reece in his child like mind said Ali is 6'3 right? Norton is 6'2 3/4 and is taller than Ali. Here are various pictures in their primes and old age to prove this
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Canson said on 22/Mar/17
@Reece: Ali was 6'2.5 tops and that may not be his lowest. Like I said Foreman was a strong 6'3". Don't know why Foreman would downgrade his own height. And the person that met him was younger at that point and a solid 6'3" then. Of course foreman may have had him by .25" but nothing more as it would've been noticeable
Reece said on 21/Mar/17
@Canson.did that person meet Foreman in the 70s. Foreman was a taller than Norton,Ali and Lyle in the RING with Flats on.Many people think Foreman was 6-4 it is far from a silly estimate.Sachs has just got problems with somebody disagreeing with him. i still stand by my opinion.all you need to do is check the stare down to see he had a inch on ALI who was a proper 6-3. Ali towering of the Beatles by like a head is proof. and why did Ali oppenents say he was 6-3. Henry Cooper said Ali was 6-3.5 and he was Taller than Liston who was 6-0.5 a strong 2.5 inches and tall man Chris lee in his book said He was 6-5 and Ali was a tall man who can look him in the eye.
Canson said on 20/Mar/17
@HarrySachs: yes there are always people who enjoy inflating heights as well. Not saying that is Reece but it seems like guys over 6'0" are primary targets to be inflated. Rob has him listed 6'3" he claimed 6'3. And someone who is reliably 6'3" that met him said he's the same height as he is.
Bizzare Oaks said on 20/Mar/17
@ Harrysachs. Harry just stop. he disagrees with your opinion just stop. Foreman to me is 6,3.5 but no more. he was a bit taller than lyle in their fight. Insults are not needed on this site
Danimal said on 20/Mar/17
Foreman was on Saturday Night Live in 1994 when he was 45 years old. The then 6'4" Kevin Nealon was clearly taller than Foreman by quite a noticeable amount. Foreman looked under 6'3" next to Nealon for sure. He was never over a flat 6'3" in his prime. Today at 68 years old he appears to be in the 6'1"-6'2" range.
HarrySachs said on 19/Mar/17
Canson don't even bother with people like Reece. There will always be people who think they know more than they do. As I said I just put up 2 picture of the 6'2 3/4 Norton and Foreman is barely taller. Maybe even the same height. He will still go on and on about this guy being a certain size and Foreman being taller.
HarrySachs said on 19/Mar/17
Lol Reece you are a fool . You can't argue with a fool . Foreman wasn't taller than Lyle. That was the camera angle. I gave you a picture of Norton and Foreman side by side and they are the same height. But hey in your little fantasy world you want to believe Foreman was 6'4 plus even though he said he was 6'3 and he was measured barefooted at 6'3 in his 20s good for you. I will ignore now because you are too pathetic to even type too.
Reece said on 18/Mar/17
Foreman was a inch taller in the Fight no way were they the same height Foreman is wearing a hat in those pictures so I cannot see the Height Difference. Foreman was taller than Lyle who claims 6-3 check the touch gloves on YouTube. I don't mean to keep going back and Forth with You about this. I know Foreman was rounding down when he said 6-3 he was taller than Lyle,Norton,Ali who were all 6-3 or very close. I am not continuing this dissertation. Have a good day harry xxx
harrysachs said on 16/Mar/17
Beautiful story Reece.
Click Here There is a better picture of Foreman and Norton. Unlike the picture you put up where Foreman is way closer to the camera. This picture they are right side by side. Amazing how Foreman barely looks taller right. He might even be the same height as the 6'2 3/4 inch Norton. So as I said you are one of those people who think they know more than they know. You will give them facts and they will give you their opinion. Foreman was measured at 6'3 230 pounds as a 20-21 year old. Oh and here is another picture of Norton and Foreman side by side
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Canson said on 13/Mar/17
@Reece: in the 70s he was a strong 6'3". He was never 6'4". That just shows the slew of 6'3" guys claiming 6'4" is out of control
Reece said on 12/Mar/17
You don't seem to understand.you get upset when people disagree with you. You think 6-3 and I think 6-4. Foreman was a inch taller so by you saying Norton is 6-2.75 that means Foreman in 6-3.75. They were close in Height but both Foreman and Holmes were a inch taller. Just because I disagree does not mean I don't understand logic
HarrySachs said on 12/Mar/17
Reece you are one of those people who can't understand logic. Foreman was measured barefooted when he was 20. He was 6'3. Foreman was only slightly taller than the 6'2 3/4 Norton but whatever. You will believe what you want to believe.
Reece said on 11/Mar/17
Foreman lost height now days. he looked 6-4 in the 1970s 1980s and early 1990s to me.
Reece said on 11/Mar/17
You know somebody who met Foreman nowdays or 70s. Foreman is easily 6-4 in peak to me but looks more 6-2 nowdays.
Canson said on 9/Mar/17
He's 6'3".Maybe 6'3.25 but not 6'4". I know someone who has met him and said they were identical in height looking directly in the eye
Reece said on 7/Mar/17
Click Here both standing still in the Fight,Foreman is a inch taller and Holmes was taller than Norton too.
Reece said on 7/Mar/17
If Norton is 190cm their is more than 0.25 inches difference it was a full inch difference. 6,3.5 is very possible but I still go for 6,4.
HarySachs said on 7/Mar/17
Reece Norton wasn't 6'3. He was 6'2 3/4 according to himself. That picture you put up off is off keyed. Foreman was only slightly taller than Norton. Measured barefooted when he was 20 George was measured at 6'3 and weighed 230 pounds.
HarySachs said on 7/Mar/17
ArjunaKorale what does your opinion on boxing have anything to do with Foreman's height? But since you brought it up Holmes got called out by Foreman in the late 70's and refused to fight Foreman. I think he knew more about his skill set than you. Ali laid against the ropes ( which wasn't his plane according to Ali) and got lucky. Foreman toyed with Jimmy Young According to Gil Clancy and didn't go for the knock out until until he already was suffering from a heat stroke. You don't know anything about boxing so don't bring it up. But anyway Foreman was 6'3 to 6'3 1/2 tops
Reece said on 4/Mar/17
Click Here. Foreman is taller than 6,3 Norton. Norton is likely not standing properly but look how tall Foreman looks. Foreman is 6,4 for sure.
ArjunaKorale said on 2/Mar/17
George was just around 191 cm or 6 ft 3 (perhaps 6 ft 3.5 at the v most) in his peak fighting days...6 ft 4 or anything above is ludicrous in my book. George was great against smaller, shorter men (as well as giant, slower men like Cooney) who stood right in front of him..now, if you gave Big George lateral movement, speed, elusiveness & guile, he was way out of his depth...that's why Ali & Jimmy Young beat him without too much fuss...and that's why Larry Holmes would have beaten him too...I'd bet my house on it.
Reece said on 25/Feb/17
Foreman 6'4 in the 70s his peak but now clearly shorter likely around the 6'2 mark
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 23/Feb/17
Rob, is a fraction over 6ft3 peak possible?
He may have rounded down slightly
Height Freak said on 19/Feb/17
Harrysachs.Tucker was 6,5 at peak,him and Lennox Lewis were the same Height and Lennox is legit 6,5. to say Ali was under 6,2 is false. the guy is tall by the way he was clearly taller than most oppenents in the Ring i doubt Ali was under 6,3. I dont think he was any more than 6,3 but 6,3 seems good for Ali. Ali was 3 inches taller than 6,0 George chuvalo easily.
Muhammad Ali Fan said on 16/Feb/17
I met Ali in the 1971.i was 6,4.5 at the Time and Ali was not too much shorter but he for sure was not as tall as me. i think he was 6,3 on the Dot i am confident he was no less. it is Strange Foreman said he was 6,3 in his younger years,Norton,Lyle and Ali were 6,3 and Foreman had a inch on all three. Foreman and Holmes both look to be taller than Ali. i think Holmes was 6,4 too in his peak he looked to have a inch on Norton.
Reece said on 11/Feb/17
Click Here Foreman and Ali are very close it could be anywhere from 0.5-1 inches their are pictures of it looking more 0.5inches idm sending more to prove it.
Will Johnson said on 10/Feb/17
Ali was not 6,4 but i struggle to believe under 6,3. Foreman looked to have 2cm on him when they fought. Ali 6,3,Holmes 6,3.5,Foreman 6,4 i think those were the peak heights of the 3, IMO
Reece said on 9/Feb/17
Why would Dundee say Ali was 6'4 in 1967 then. Boxing commentators say Ali was a touch other. Cleveland Williams was 6'3 and Ali was every bit as big as his. Cooper said 6'3.5. Ali was 3 inches taller than Chuvalo in the RING to. Not too much shorter than giant terell. Burner said 6'3. All of his 60s and 70s listing before illness and change of posture know Ali as no less than 6'3. He looks every bit after age 21. Foreman was large he look bigger than 6'3 I think he was 6'4 and Ali was closer to 6'3. Some pictures have Ali and Foreman half a inch in height apart they are close. I respect your opinion but I disagree
Reece said on 9/Feb/17
Terrell was gigantic look at the way he towered over ring oppenents. Pierre Cortez's was 6'4 and Foreman was eye to eye. Foreman was 6'4 in the 70s to me. Ali even got measured and had a tail of the tape of 6'3.5 when on to with wilt chamberlain. You think Ali was under 6'2. Look at him towering of Luther king by 9 inches and the Beatles with flat boxing shoes. Liston was 6'1 and Ali had 2.5 inches on him and no less than 6'0.5. If Ali is your claim then Liston is 5,11 only if Ali is under 6'2. Look at Ali towering over a 5'10 member of the Beatles. It is silly to think Terell is not close to 6'6 he may be shorter but he is certainly no less than 6,5. Ali was listed in his Prime and the 70s at 6'3 and not your under 6,2 claim for good reason
Harrysachs said on 8/Feb/17
Touching story Reece as I said Terrell was never 6'6. That is the height he used. Kind of like Tony Tucker claiming to be 6'5 when he was 6'3. Foreman was measured at 6'3 barefooted. Ali was more than .5 inches shorter. But you are the type of dude who will just believe whatever you want to believe.
Harrysachs said on 8/Feb/17
Good God almighty Foreman was measured barefooted at 6'3 and Ali was clearly at least a inch shorter than Foreman. Could you stop with the 6'4 crap and Terrell was never 6'6. It is just like boxer Jeff Merritt claiming to be 6'5 when he was 6'3
Click Here Anyway this thread is about Foreman not building up Ali because he is your TV hero.
Foreman at peak was 6'3
Tall guy said on 30/Jan/17
wow. never knew Ali was that tall i always thought he was 6,2 but after seeing the Pictures below of Ali and with the Beatles he looks 6,4!
Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
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Ali looks tall in the pictures above. Terell was huge and Ali never look more than 2 inches shorter! this is to all the people who think Ali is 6,1 and 6,2. a 6,1 man could not look so tall next to 6,6 listed terell he would be towered over. Ali looks 9 inches taller the luther king who was 5,6.5. Ali looks a solid 6,3.5 in the pictures above
Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
Thanks Rob that really helps!
Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
can anybody tell me how to send pictures to caleb heights
Editor Rob
if a link to something like http://www.site.com/blah.jpg then please use tinyurl or bit.ly to shorten the link, then paste it into a comment.
Reece said on 25/Jan/17
you think Ali was 6,1.75? how can a man only than tower over George Harrison in flat boxing shoes. Ali was measured on TV with Chamberlin the great basketball player and the Tale of the Tape had him at 6,3.5. if Ali was 6,2 or even less why did a legit tall 6,6 Terell not tower over him. Ali was also taller than George Chuvalo who was 6,0 and he had him by 3 inches. Henry cooper said Ali was 6,3.5. Dundee his own coach said he was 6,4 in 1967 the listings of 6,2 were before Ali was 21. Anything under 6,3 is likely to low. Foreman was 0.5 inches-1 inch taller. Foreman 193cm Ali 191 cm. or Foreman 194cm and Ali 192 cm.
HarrySachs said on 24/Jan/17
Movieguy people will believe what they want to believe. George Foreman was measured at 6'3 and weighed 230 as a 19 amateur. Like you said he was clearly 1 inch taller than Ali when they fought. But some people because of their hero worship over certain people and how they want to act like their TV heroes are bigger than they are. They will believe Ali was 6'4 when clearly Ali was 6'2 at his peak and maybe even slightly shorter.
Reece said on 24/Jan/17
When Dundee stated Ali was 6'2 he was younger. He stated in 1967 when Ali was fully grown men grow in height till 21 at least some of them do. My dad was 6,1 at 17 but he grew to a full 6'4 by the age of 21. Dundee said before the Terrell Fight Ali was 6'4. The 6,2 listing must have been earlier on. Anyway look at Ali towering of the Beatles in flat boxing shoes.look at him with Martin Luther king who was 5,7 and Ali could look 8.5 inches taller. Foreman was tall too he looked half a inch taller than Ali maybe a full inch but nothing more. Ali was 6,3.5 I am sure. 6'3 is possible to but anything under is unlikely highly.
movieguy said on 15/Jan/17
Reece, Angelo Dundee has stated Ali was 6'4'' but he has also stated Ali was 6'2''. I don't why he gave 2 different heights for Ali. Jim Brown the football player and actor said Ali was 6'2''. I think this is more likely. Foreman maybe was an inch taller. Both Ali and Foreman were given as 6'3'' in their prime but when they met in the ring Foreman looked a bit taller. There is a clip of George Foreman on a Bob Hope special posted on YouTube after he won the title and compared to the great comedian who was about 5'10'' I guess he does look a genuinely big guy.
Reece said on 3/Jan/17
Alan Brisco no way was Ali was 6,1.5 in the 1960s-1970s-1980s. Ali was baely 6,0 when he died but in the 60s and 70s no way was Ali any less than 6,3. Foreman was 6,3.5 or 6,4 in peak you can see he has a shade taller than Ali. Dundee said Ali was 6,4 even in 1967! look at Ali in the ring with Terell and tell me if you think he was less than 6,3.
Borats Chicken said on 23/Dec/16
a pic rob pls
HarrySach said on 19/Dec/16
Click Here George Foreman and Magic Johnson
Click Here George Foreman and the listed 6'3 Axel Schulz
Click Here Foreman and the listed 6'5 Gerry Cooney
Flyin said on 6/Dec/16
Clearly shorter than this now, 186cm.
JoMama said on 24/Oct/16
YLYL Sergei Liakhovich is listed at 6'4 on boxing sites second go to the 7:00 mark of that video. Briggs is shorter than Liakovich? Then you are either blind of stupid. In any case Foreman was listed at 6'3 230 pounds as a 19 year older. He was never 6'4. He was clearly slightly shorter than 6'4 Shannon Briggs and clearly 1 1/2 inches shorter than 6'4 1/1 Riddick Bowe.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 19/Sep/16
Peak: 191-192cm
Today: 189-190cm
Brandon said on 12/Sep/16
6'3.5" peak
He is 67 years old so he is probably 6'2" range nowadays.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Aug/16
I think a strong 6ft3 is possible. Could look 6ft4
Jason said on 18/Aug/16
I met George in 1999 and had a picture taken with him. I am exactly 5'10" right out of bed, 5'9 1/2" around midday, and 5'9 1/4" at night. Maybe it was just my perception at the time (or maybe the lighting or posture issues), but I didn't think Foreman looked all that tall; of course, maybe it had to do with his bulk and large build. But if I knew how to do it, I would post a snapshot of the picture of George and I (and my sister); in the photo, George doesn't look 6'3 and definitely not 6'4". And this photo was in '99, so George was barely 50 at the time.
Candyman said on 12/Jul/16
He was listed at 6'3" as a youth but upgraded to 6'4" in his 40's during his comeback. I believe he is somewhere in between the two having seen him in passing a few years ago with his huge sons. He can easily get away with being mistaken for 6'4" to this day.
movieguy said on 25/Jun/16
Stig, Cassius Clay as he was then known was more than 6'1''. I'd give Foreman an inch on Ali when they fought, Foreman had an awesome physique as a young man. He wasn't a gym bunny or steroid freak like many of today's athletes he was just naturally blessed. Most people these days probably think of him as the fat guy who sells grills and won the championship in his 40s but the young Foreman was a superbly conditioned sportsman.
Canson said on 22/Jun/16
@Ed: foreman was 6'3 maybe 6'3 1/4 never a full 6'4. Out of his own mouth he said 6-3. Ali was 6'2.5. There was 1/2-1" tops between them.
ED said on 22/Jun/16
Foreman was 6"4 Ali 6'3 LOOK AT FOREMANS 1 INCH HEIGHT ADVANTAGE AS THEY STARED EACH OTHER DOWN BEFORE THE BELL RANG.
Kev said on 4/Jun/16
I find it funny how so many comments are rude and convinced they can't be wrong. George probably knows how tall he is. Perspective in photos and life can be deceiving. I would be willing to bet he is closer than any of those infallible guesses.
Stig.. said on 4/Jun/16
Cassius Clay was 6ft 1.. theres a good pic of him with Bobby moore who was 5ft 11.. Clay maybe inch & half taller.. 6, 1 Max..
YLYL said on 3/Jun/16
Jo Mama Shannon Briggs is only 6'2 he is shorter then Sergei Liakhovich who is listed 6'3.5 and actually claims it too!
Chucky said on 13/May/16
Saw him 15 years ago, was easily 6 feet 4. I am also 6 feet 4, was eye to eye.
Candyman said on 30/Oct/15
I've seen him in person a few times along with his sons. He seems like a SOLID 6'3" now even with his pronounced slouch when out of the eye of the camera, which (to me) means he was probably close to 6'3.75 in his youth and is around 6'3.25 to 6'3.5 today standing tall.
Chazlinc said on 30/Sep/15
6'4" in 70s prime maybe shorter now. George was a hustler. He also undersold his height and reach. It was part of his schtick. He wouldn't let the commission measure his reach. He'd hunch over to register 6'3" when they measured him.....then in ring Center at the instructions he'd pull back his shoulders and stand up straight..look at the ali and lyle fights...Ron was every bit 6'3"...when George stood up straight he was a full inch...maybe more..taller
Art said on 3/Apr/15
George really impresive me when I saw him for the fist time. That was on March 1977,in San juan P.R., in his fight against Jimmy Young. Easily he was at least 6'3 . In general he was a big & powerful guy.
james said on 4/Feb/15
If foreman was 6'3 at his peak than Ali was really 6'2 and not 6'3 ..watch them get instructions from the ref before their fight in ziare ..foreman was an in taller
Jo Mama said on 25/Oct/14
Shannon Brigg is listed at 6'4 which seems about right because he is only slightly shorter than Lennox Lewis who is 6'4 1/2. In any case after Briggs fought Foreman toward the end of Foreman's interview you could see Foreman was close to Briggs height.
Foreman tends to slouch something fierce. Sometime Foreman looks as tall if not taller than 6'3 Larry Holmes then again sometimes he looks shorter.
Alucard said on 24/Oct/14
I think he was around 6'2.5-6'3 max when young during 60s and 70s... Today seems he lost a bit of height, probably 6'2 max... A guy who always slouched a lot also...
Sackballs said on 18/Oct/14
Right Danny then you realize Ken Norton was measured by the marines at 6'2 3/4 so if he was taller than a prime Norton then he had to be taller than that not shorter. Good grief some people are clueless
Danny said on 10/Aug/14
George is about 6'2 and a half, just a shade taller than Ali and Norton. He only looked about an inch taller than Holyfield
MikeHawk said on 1/Apr/14
Here is Ken Norton with George. Given that Norton is 6'2¾. He looks to have a little edge on Foreman.
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apa rava said on 26/Oct/13
I think George was about 6.3 and a half. He is about one inch taller then muhammad ali and ken norton, both of them were about 6.3(between 190-191 cm).
I have no doubt that George is strong 6.3 and a half. maybe even 6.4.
he was 192 or 192.5 cm
Ali was about 190 or 190.5
Sackballs said on 30/Jul/13
Ken Norton was 6'2 3/4 and Foreman was taller than him so in his prime Foreman was 6'3 at least in of story.
Rey said on 18/Jul/13
Big George was never 6"3"--the height of Kevin Sorbo --no way!! I have seem them both. Without the afro--he was 6'2" in his prime and a weak 6'2". He more big and wide than tall. Holyfield another misleading --not even close to 6'2"
alan brisco said on 4/Mar/13
bob, i always said that holyfield was not so tall as listed,6'2.5". He is shorter, for sure. I saw a paper where holyfield was listed 6'1". It was for the olympic games 1984 in L.A., Holyfield at that time was 22 y.o., so no more growing. So he is 6ft-6'1", no way he is taller than 6'1". He had a good advantage on tyson, who is realistic tall 5'9"-5'10". But he was towered by lennox lewis, who is a legit 6'4.5"- 6'5". About Foreman i think he was 6'2"-6'3" at his peak, probably 6'2.5". He was approx. an inch taller than alì, who was always overestimated, i said alì was more realistic tall 6'1.5".
Sackballs said on 2/Mar/13
Funny when people will dispute you about something like they know it is a fact. Foreman in his prime was always listed as 6'3 and was most likely that in his prime. In his comeback with all of the weight he gained he was most likely shorter.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 17/Sep/12
I think he may have been 6ft3.5(192cm) at peak
Mark said on 8/Feb/12
George Foreman has never been 6'3" maybe 6'2" in his prime.....before he returned to boxing he came to my high school in Houston. First thought, this guy is big, but not that tall. My friend Eric who is 6'3" and was on the swim team and basketball team stopped to say hello. Eric always wore "Chucks" --no heel and had more than an inch on the champ. I will say this...George does slouch when he walks, but was never 6'3".
ArjunaKorale said on 21/Jan/12
You have got this listing spot on, Rob! At no point in his career was Foreman 6ft 4 (163cm) tall, as the great man readily admits to himself! Those people who cite 6ft 4 as his height are only deluding themselves (the fools!). A lot of the heights of heavyweight boxers that "Marcus" mentions need to be downgraded e.g. Ron Lyle was actually more like 6ft 2 (188cm) tall & Muhammed Ali at his peak was around 6ft 2 (188 or 189cm) & never a full 6ft 3 tall. Good on you, Rob, for sticking to your guns & not letting anyone change your mind on Foreman's height listing (I believe you & the team are right)!!!
Marcus said on 25/Oct/11
George was 6 ft 3.5 minimum but I think he actually was 6'4. Ron Lyle,Ken Norton were both 6'3 and George looked an inch taller than each. Pierre Coetzer was 6'4 and George looked to be the exact same height! Holyfield is an even 6'2 and George was at least 2 inches taller. Michael Moorer was 6'1 and Foreman was 3 inches taller. George was 6'4 fully grown.
Balthier said on 30/Sep/11
"Sandra says on 3/Feb/11
I met George Foreman at an auto shop while he was making a commercial in Houston, TX. He didn't impress me as being 6'3". He looked more like 5'10". I am 5'9". And he had a big tummy. He smiled a lot." Ffs, get a grip.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Aug/11
Minimum 6"3 in his prime, possibly 192cm.
neal said on 18/Jul/11
@me
they never were the same height
@''Rampage(-_-_-)Clover''
you're absolutely right.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Apr/11
192cm peak
190cm now
Mathew said on 17/Mar/11
Yeah he was 6'3", not much debate about it.
d wade said on 5/Feb/11
lol 5,10 what a fake story yes and tim allen is 5,4
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Sandra said on 3/Feb/11
I met George Foreman at an auto shop while he was making a commercial in Houston, TX. He didn't impress me as being 6'3". He looked more like 5'10". I am 5'9". And he had a big tummy. He smiled a lot.
AAAA said on 22/Nov/10
Here we go... Thanks Rob, I've always wanted to bring up Big Georges height.
So here he (george) is with Harry Carson (listed 6'2 all over the internet) and Thomas Hearns,(listed at 6'1, so believe he may have actually been taller and subtracte an inch to entice welterweights to fight him) and monster Spencer Haywood
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But, here we have Carson with Derek Jeter (I think even the legendary Viper said Jeter was 6'3)
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And here we have him with LT, also listed here and, for the majority, accepted to be 6'3 (
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IMO, Carson was a full 6'3 man when he was younger, and still is at worst a weak 6'3 man. The 6'2 listing confuse the hell out of me, given the photos I just showed.
Back to Big George. He is still a 6'3 guy in that photo, when he is older and much heavier. I don't think he got any taller after he was 24 (age during The Rumble), especially considering that after he retired from boxing at 27 he ballooned up to 300+lbs for 10 years before returning to fighting. If anything, I'd be more likely to believe he had shruken a 1/2 in by this point.
I always figured him to have been 6'3.5 (maybe even a full 6'4 in his youth) and a solid 6'3 when he returned for his second career. Here he is claimed 6'2.5 Holyfield (6'1 on this site, i believe he is like 6'1.5 at his peak when this photo was taken) and he looks about 1.5in taller to me.
Just food for thought guys. Haven't posted in forever but I still follows these convos on heights once in a blue moon. Hope all is well, especially with you Rob. Glad to see the site still runs
Anonymous said on 11/Nov/10
He did say in that interview with Ali and Frazier that he had 'grown' by an inch and was now taller!