viper said on 16/Aug/21
Rampage you thought 6-2 Stromae was a solid 6-3 and could get away with 6-4
viper said on 16/Aug/21
Merriman looks 6-2 max with 6-4 Vince Young
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Canson said on 14/Aug/21
@Viper: it’s been years since I’ve seen him or I’ll say we since it seems like the same game we were at. You were closer to him than me. I figured he was 6’3 like he was listed at MD or even 6’4 but didn’t think anything of it. I was not close to him. It was from a distance. I was surprised to see the 6’4 3/8 measurement but it was a mistake in my opinion. I can tell he isn’t as tall as I Am. He really doesn’t look as tall as Vernon Davis who I have seen up close and is 6’3”. But again I wasn’t close enough to give a qualified opinion. But he never looks close to 6’4 imho. Rob has him listed too high. 6’3 flat should be the listing if he isn’t certain imho
Canson said on 14/Aug/21
@Viper: it’s been years since I’ve seen him or I’ll say we since it seems like the same game we were at. You were closer to him than me. I figured he was 6’3 like he was listed at MD or even 6’4 but didn’t think anything of it. I was surprised to see the 6’4 3/8 measurement but it was a mistake in my opinion. I wasn’t close enough to give a qualified opinion. But he never looks close to 6’4 imho. Rob has him listed too high. 6’3 flat should be the listing if he isn’t certain imho
viper said on 11/Aug/21
Physically 6-2 listed Kevin Gausman looks taller than Merriman yet looked 6-1.5-6-2 up close.
Canson said on 6/Aug/21
@Viper: 6’3 flat is the most he should ever get imho.
viper said on 4/Aug/21
He could at least be downgraded to 6-3 1/4
Canson said on 4/Aug/21
@Viper: I’d start with 6’3” flat if I were Rob since he’s unsure. 6’3.5” is too tall though with 6’4 Marcellus Wiley and 6’6 Stephen Jackson
viper said on 2/Aug/21
Rampage, you agree Merriman looks 6-2 with weak 6-2 Drue Tranquill in sandals
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ChaosControl said on 2/Aug/21
I’ve said before I have no knowledge of American Footballers, but if people argue he’s 6’2.5 and he’s listed 6’3.5 I’m gonna guess 6’3. Also I think this dude looks like Roman Reigns if he had a buzz cut
viper said on 2/Aug/21
Seeing Merriman up close he's definitely not 6-3
viper said on 31/Jul/21
Rampage, this is by far the best evidence
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Merriman looks 6-2 at the absolute max barefoot next to a 6-5.75 measured barefoot Martellus Bennett.
viper said on 31/Jul/21
Under 6-3 is a joke yet he measured
6-2 3/8 and looks 6-2.
Come on Rampage.
Did you even watch the videos I linked
Canson said on 31/Jul/21
@Viper: wasn’t that what happened with Aaron Hernandez and Will Grier both? Grier was measured as high as 6’2.5? I see Grier is listed 6’2 again though now
Canson said on 31/Jul/21
@Rob: he looks it with Steven Seagal. He’s not as tall as he is and he’s 6’3”
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 30/Jul/21
Under 6ft3 is a joke...what you have him at his the lowest I'd argue. Can look near 6ft4
viper said on 30/Jul/21
Rob hes not even 6-2.5-6-3
viper said on 29/Jul/21
Rob, he needs to be downgraded to at least 6-3.
Canson said on 29/Jul/21
@Editor Rob: may be up and down like a Yo Yo but he’s clearly not 6’3.5”. At least a solid 6’3” almost aligns with how he may come out at a combine if he measured 6’2 3/8” at the Pro Day. It looks high still but since you have other players listed at morning heights it almost fits in. One thing is certain, Merriman is not taller than Vernon Davis who is 6’3”
Editor Rob
I looked at Shawne again on 26th july and still wasn't so convinced on 6ft 2.5-3.
viper said on 29/Jul/21
Rob, you admit Merriman looks 6-2 with
6-1 3/8-6-1.5 Derwin James wearing sandals and 6-1.5-6-1.75 Drue Tranquill wearing sandals on video
Drue measured 6-2 even 3 times and has a 6-1 listing.
Canson said on 29/Jul/21
@Editor Rob: I agree with Chaos. 6’3” is reasonable at least. He for sure is not taller than Vernon Davis who is 6’3” in person. He definitely isn’t 6’3.5 when you see him with Steven Seagal etc
Canson said on 28/Jul/21
@Editor Rob: nobody else is convinced that he’s as tall as he’s listed. He wouldn’t have two 6’2 listings/measurements if that weren’t the case. Only one is in the 6’4 range.
Editor Rob
quite a few have voted him 6ft 3.5-4.5, of course more might have given him under 6ft 3 than over.
viper said on 28/Jul/21
He should at least be downgraded to 6-3
viper said on 28/Jul/21
Even with the latest videos I've linked where he looks 6-2, and the Martellus Bennett video.
Really? That's as good of evidence as it gets.
Editor Rob
I looked at a lot of stuff over the years and his height is up and down like a yoyo.
ChaosControl said on 28/Jul/21
viper said on 28/Jul/21
Rob, can you downgrade Merriman to 6-2.5 now
Editor Rob
I still ain't convinced he is that short from everything I've seen.
How does 6’3 sound as a compromise figure?
Editor Rob
that's the lowest I would ever try to argue
viper said on 28/Jul/21
Rob, can you downgrade Merriman to 6-2.5 now
Editor Rob
I still ain't convinced he is that short from everything I've seen.
Canson said on 25/Jul/21
@Viper: the best evidence is definitely with Bennett who you showed measured 6’5.75”. Merriman looks what you described him in person int he video.
Canson said on 25/Jul/21
@Viper: you’re right. I didn’t even pay attention to footwear. He looks around the 6’2 mark maybe a hair over
viper said on 24/Jul/21
The real eye opener is Merriman barely, barely looks any taller than 6-1 3/8 - 6-1.5 Derwin James in sandals
viper said on 24/Jul/21
He barely looks any taller because of his footwear while Tranquill is wearing sandals.
Canson said on 23/Jul/21
@Viper: Merriman is taller in the last video.
Canson said on 23/Jul/21
@Viper: Merriman looks taller
viper said on 22/Jul/21
Must have been in the contract for these guys to wear sandals, and Merriman still looks 6-1.5-6-2
viper said on 22/Jul/21
He looks the same height as 6-1.5-6-1.75 Drue Tranquill in sandals
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This really backs up my 6-1.5-6-2 sighting of Merriman
viper said on 22/Jul/21
Best video evidence we have is Merriman looking 6-2 barefoot next to a barefoot Martellus Bennett
viper said on 22/Jul/21
Canson you are looking at the camera angle favoring Merriman when they shake hands. Nothing suggests 1.5-2
Face to face they are almost identical, with 6-1 3/8-6-1.5 Derwin James wearing sandals
viper said on 22/Jul/21
He measured 6-2 3/8 though
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 22/Jul/21
Canson said on 20/Jul/21
@Viper: can look 1.5” maybe close to 2 in the beginning. If Rob can knock it down to 6’3 it would look better. I can see near or at that out of bed or just over if he’s 6’2 3/8” But the site is afternoon most will say (including me) but he has Steph Curry 6’2 when he isn’t
Yeah I’m 6’2.5 (c’mon it’s basically what your guessing) and I’m 6’3 first thing
viper said on 21/Jul/21
I'd go as far to say Merriman deserves more of a downgrade than LL Cool J
I mean he was listed 6-3 in college
viper said on 21/Jul/21
Merriman looks absolutely 6-2 max with Derwin
With Drue Tranquill he looks 6-2 max range given Drue measured 6-2 even 3 times (What are the odds of that?) and has a 6-1 listing
Merriman looks 6-2-6-2.25 with him. And Drue may be wearing sandals as well.
I've given clear cut video evidence since 2018 that Merriman is max 6-2.25
viper said on 21/Jul/21
Canson, in the first couple of seconds the camera is favoring Merriman
Merriman is only half an inch taller than 6-1.5 Derwin James at best.
Merriman barely looks 6-2 with him. Derwin is wearing sandals no less
viper said on 21/Jul/21
Canson, he barely looks any taller than 6-1.5 Derwin even wearing sandals.
Look at the 16 second mark when they are face to face
viper said on 21/Jul/21
Physically Merriman only looks 6-1 here
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viper said on 21/Jul/21
Merriman with 6-1.5 Stevie Johnson
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viper said on 21/Jul/21
Merriman looks 6-2 with 6-9 Deanthony Langston.
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Kobe looks 6-5 with 6-9 Langston.
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viper said on 20/Jul/21
Merriman looks about the same height as 6-1 range Drue Tranquill in the montage
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Canson said on 20/Jul/21
@Viper: can look 1.5” maybe close to 2 in the beginning. If Rob can knock it down to 6’3 it would look better. I can see near or at that out of bed or just over if he’s 6’2 3/8” But the site is afternoon most will say (including me) but he has Steph Curry 6’2 when he isn’t
viper said on 17/Jul/21
Look at the 16 second mark.
Derwin James is essentially a flat 6-1 with sandals and Merriman is barely taller
viper said on 17/Jul/21
It's time for a major downgrade to 6-2.5
Merriman barely looks any taller than
6-1.5 Derwin James with James wearing sandals.
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viper said on 16/Jul/21
Merriman looks 6-2 at the absolute maximum with Hayrie.
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A 6-3 listing is too much.
6-2.5 would be a good start
Canson said on 15/Jul/21
@Viper: the 6’1 impression could be posture related. I would guess around his measurement from the pro Day really. Rob has him listed too high all things considered. 6’3 flat is the max listing imho
viper said on 13/Jul/21
Chris Hayrie with 6-5 Russell Okung
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Hayrie may only be 6-1 range.
Merriman isn't looking any taller than
6-1 range himself with him
viper said on 29/Jun/21
Woodson with 5-11 Odell Beckham
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viper said on 21/Jun/21
Merriman with 6-6 Justin Herbert
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Looks like he's wearing lifts here
viper said on 20/Jun/21
I have no idea
It's strange
Canson said on 18/Jun/21
@Viper/ what in the world is going on with the senior bowl measurements now a days being higher than Pro Day in some cases and higher than Combines? I wonder if combines really aren’t held as early as people think now or if they do other exercises at the combine before they’re measured which reduce the height quicker?
Canson said on 18/Jun/21
@Viper: he looks slightly taller imho. Maybe he’s 6’1.5
viper said on 17/Jun/21
Canson, you agree Adam looks 6-1 with Booker
Canson said on 15/Jun/21
@Viper: I doubt Robinson is 7’. 6’11 range more than likely. That’s not a full 2” on Duncan
viper said on 15/Jun/21
Adam Jones with 5-9.5 Jericho
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viper said on 14/Jun/21
Jones looks pretty similar to 6-0.5-6-1 Manny Machado
Jones can look taller at times like Merriman
viper said on 14/Jun/21
6-1 Adam Jones with 6-1 Mark Jackson
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viper said on 14/Jun/21
Adam Jones with 7-0 David Robinson
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viper said on 14/Jun/21
Adam Jones with 6-1 Jonathan Schoop.
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They are the same height
viper said on 14/Jun/21
Adam looks 6-1 max with 5-11 Chappelle
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Canson said on 13/Jun/21
@Viper: metcalf is closer to the camera. I’d say yes he’s taller though.
viper said on 13/Jun/21
Canson you agree Adam Jones looks 6-1 with Booker
viper said on 9/Jun/21
Merriman with 6-1.5 Derwin James
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viper said on 7/Jun/21
Merriman be with 6-1.5 Derwin James
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viper said on 7/Jun/21
There is no way Merriman is taller than 6-3 Metcalf, or the same height
Canson said on 4/Jun/21
@Viper: you may be right
viper said on 1/Jun/21
Merriman with 6-3 DK Metcalf
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viper said on 31/May/21
Jones being 6-1 doesn't surprise me since he never really did look 6-2 physically
viper said on 26/May/21
Merriman looks 6-2 range with 6-6.75 measured Matt Barnes
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viper said on 25/May/21
Canson, you agree Jones looks 6-1 with Booker T
viper said on 24/May/21
Machado looks 6-0.5-6-1
Canson said on 22/May/21
@Viper: I saw Jones as well but from a distance and saw a pic with him with someone. I would’ve guessed 6’2 no questions asked to be honest. How tall do you think Manny Machado is?
viper said on 21/May/21
Jones always looked the same height as 6-1 Jonathan Schoop that I noticed.
Interesting how you knew a person that thought Jones was 6-2
Canson said on 19/May/21
@Editor Rob: how much difference do you see between Merriman and Booker T? I can see an argument for 6’3” for Merriman there but not 6’4”. And he measured 6’2 3/8” at the Pro Day so that seems more likely than 6’4 3/8”. It can look 1.5” or 2” difference
@Viper: Merriman is clearly taller. If I were Rob, 6’2 1/2” may be fair or 6’2 3/8”
viper said on 17/May/21
IMO Rock is in sandals/barefoot with Merriman
Canson said on 16/May/21
@Editor Rob: what do you make of this picture?
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Editor Rob
wouldn't guess him as short as 6ft 2 there
Canson said on 4/May/21
@Viper: my guess for Trevor Lawrence could be what you guessed or slightly higher. If 6’5 5/8 pro day then maybe 6’5 1/2 would be combine and 6’5 1/8 or 1/4 would be an afternoon senior bowl. Of course senior bowls are in the morning now too. But then again his pro day may have been the same as his combine if it was as early as it was. All I know is his father is or at least was 6’7” and he doesn’t look 6’6” with him. He could be strong 6’5” perhaps at best but I also saw the pics with his wife and he doesn’t strike me as 6’6” with her. He’s just very thin giving off a taller impression, He weighs less than I do and is roughly an inch taller
viper said on 2/May/21
Canson, did you see a 6053 listing for Trevor
viper said on 29/Apr/21
Merriman looks shorter than 6-3 Randy Moss
Canson said on 28/Apr/21
viper said on 26/Mar/21
Trevor would measure 6-5.2 at the combine
Jadaveon Clowney measured 6-5.5 at his pro day and 6-5.2 at the conbine
@Viper: that’s Weird. The combine is usually early morning as is. I see somewhere that it was actually 6’5 3/8” so not sure which to believe. So I wonder with a guy like Vincent Jackson who was 6046 at the combine then 6043 at the senior bowl what he would’ve been at the combine. I think Lawrence may have gotten 6’5 3/8 at the combine
Canson said on 28/Apr/21
viper said on 26/Mar/21
Trevor would measure 6-5.2 at the combine
Jadaveon Clowney measured 6-5.5 at his pro day and 6-5.2 at the conbine
Weird. The combine is usually early morning as is. I see somewhere that it was actually 6’5 3/8” so not sure which to believe
viper said on 27/Apr/21
It was kinda quick I have to admit.
Maybe they read it wrong.
Remember Ben Shapiro measured 5-11 on a stadiometer supposedly
viper said on 27/Apr/21
Well, I just got measured 6-5 at the doctor's late afternoon, lol
And I didn't say anything.
Canson said on 22/Apr/21
@Mickie: he could look it with some celebs
viper said on 18/Apr/21
Mickie, there isn't since he was listed 6-3 in college
Canson said on 17/Apr/21
@Viper: a lot of the senior bowl measurements at least more recent appear to be early morning.
Mickie said on 14/Apr/21
Is there any really good evidence that 6'3.5" is closer than 6'2.5"?
viper said on 7/Apr/21
Sam Ehlinger measured 6-1.4 at the senior bowl and 6-1.1 at his pro day
viper said on 6/Apr/21
Surratt definitely looked no taller than 6-1 physically on the field
viper said on 4/Apr/21
Trey's 6-5.4 is from his pro day.
So I think that is inflated. Senior bowl measurements are always correct it seems.
I think his measurement was actually 6-4.4
viper said on 4/Apr/21
Like I said, Tarron Jackson measured 6-2.4 at the senior bowl and 6-2.1 at his pro day
viper said on 4/Apr/21
I actually think with Trey Smith it's a mess up the other way. Usually offensive lineman are only inflated by an inch
viper said on 4/Apr/21
Chaz Surratt measured about an inch shorter at the senior bowl.
6-1.4 versus 6-2.1
I think the 6-2.1 is really 6-1.1
Canson said on 31/Mar/21
@Editor Rob: another pic with 6’6 Stephen Jackson and 6’4” Marcellus Wiley. Merriman even if he stood straight would be max 6’3”
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Editor Rob
all depends how much height he is losing in that shot.
viper said on 31/Mar/21
Merriman and James Vanderbeek listings are probably the most far off listings here.
And of course LL Cool J
Canson said on 30/Mar/21
@Viper: how about Trey Smith from Tennessee. He has a 6’5 1/2” measurement at the Senior Bowl then 6’4 5/8” at either his Pro Day or the Combine. Talking about discrepancies. Merriman may have gotten the same. Not maybe. Probably
Canson said on 27/Mar/21
@Viper: Lawrence measured 6’5 5/8 but it was in the morning. They noted time of day. Chances are best case he’s Christian’s height if not 6’5.25 or 6’5 1/8”. Depends how early
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 27/Mar/21
Don’t know why they have a 6’2.5 guy 6’4.38, I’m pretty confident he’s closer to my height than Canson’s
viper said on 26/Mar/21
Trevor would measure 6-5.2 at the combine
Jadaveon Clowney measured 6-5.5 at his pro day and 6-5.2 at the conbine
viper said on 25/Mar/21
Trevor Lawrence measured 6-5.5
He claimed 6-5 during the national title game
viper said on 25/Mar/21
Interesting how Tarron Jackson measured much shorter at his pro day at only 6-2.1
He measured 6-2.4 at the senior bowl
Incognito324 said on 21/Mar/21
looks 6'2" max, looking of proportions
Canson said on 21/Mar/21
@Chaos Control: if even that
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 19/Mar/21
Hey Rob I think there’s a consensus here that Merriman is my height
Canson said on 11/Mar/21
@Viper: 6’3 would even be better than this bogus listing. I’d give him 6’2 3/8” like he was measured before. That’s probably what it really should’ve been
viper said on 10/Mar/21
6-2.25
He only looked 6-1.5-6-2 when I saw him up close
Canson said on 10/Mar/21
@Chaos Control: that’s a good question lol. He can look shorter on occasion and taller on others. A 6’2 3/8 measurement would mean close to
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 10/Mar/21
@Viper would you have said Merrimack is the same height as me or slightly taller?
viper said on 9/Mar/21
He generally looks 250 I think
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Mar/21
@VIncent
He was supposedly measured 272 in 2005 via the combine, but he's obviously not that big nowadays.
Vincent Caleb said on 8/Mar/21
@Viper:
What do you think his weight is at approximately 6’2”(give or take a few cm)? I’m not too sure that he is 270.
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 3/Mar/21
I think he is approximately the same height as me
viper said on 1/Mar/21
6-1.5 listed Logan Paul with Jake Paul
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Merriman with Jake Paul
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Canson said on 24/Feb/21
@Viper: appears to me that Merriman is tilting his head to the side. I’m not saying he’s definitively taller but I’m saying that the pic isn’t the best. Now on the same token, I do agree that he’s shorter than Dexter Manley even though Manley is closer to the camera. I also say Vernon Davis is taller than him
viper said on 22/Feb/21
6-3 Doug Williams is taller than Merriman there
viper said on 20/Feb/21
Gotta disagree with you Canson.
Merriman is a bit closer to the camera and his eye area is too far below Doug's to be taller
Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 19/Feb/21
@Viper yeah at least one of those is wrong. Give it a couple of years and he’ll be claiming 6’6
Canson said on 18/Feb/21
@Viper: Bailey is likely 5’11 3/8”
Canson said on 18/Feb/21
@Viper: Merriman looks taller imho
viper said on 17/Feb/21
Chaos, he never measured that, lol
viper said on 15/Feb/21
Vincent Jackson just died, crazy
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viper said on 15/Feb/21
6-3 Doug Williams is a bit taller than Merriman when Merriman was listed 6-3 at Maryland.
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Chaos Control 6'2.5 said on 15/Feb/21
How much must this guy lose in a day if he can measure 6’4.38 and 6’2.5
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Feb/21
@Vincent
One of the most overlisted ones for sure, even after his downgrade to 6'3.5" from the initial 6'4".
Canson said on 12/Feb/21
@Viper: they have him throwing at 956 am so definitely earlier that they measured him. Wonder if his hair was included. But probably more 6’5.25 or 3:8 best case
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Vincent Caleb said on 11/Feb/21
Shawne is probably the most overlisted person on the site now that Quinton got his much deserved downgrade. He has been measured under 6’3” many times and has also got 6’2 3/8”, I don’t know why he is still at this figure. Looking at pictures it is obvious he is nowhere near the listing, let alone his claim.
Canson said on 10/Feb/21
@Viper: I believe couchscout over the combine (for an afternoon height) being those are usually later in the day but lol look at Tebow’s 6’2.8. He wasn’t remeasured I guess
Canson said on 5/Feb/21
@Viper: they have his combine at 5’11.75. Maybe 5’11 and change not a flat
viper said on 4/Feb/21
Champ is 5-11 but he doesn't stand right next to Merriman like 6-3 Moss does
viper said on 4/Feb/21
Rob, 6-3 Moss is definitely a bit taller than Merriman there
Canson said on 2/Feb/21
@Editor Rob: how much do you see between Merriman and Champ Bailey (to his left) I would’ve said 3” but not 4”. And Moss does look a bit taller and measured 6’3 3/8. Merriman should be downgraded to 6’3” flat based on that imho
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from that clip they can look quite close taking account of their positions and posture at times.
Canson said on 2/Feb/21
@Viper: it’s hard to tell with those two. However, how much difference do you see between Merriman and Champ Bailey? I have Bailey somewhere around 5’11.5 maybe 5’11 3/8 with the 5’11.25 being worst case. Then 5’11 1/2 best case
Canson said on 2/Feb/21
@Viper: that’s very weird. I want to see the combine measurements but also the listed heights are typically morning and rounded up. So a guy listed 6’3 that measured 6’2 5/8 is really just a strong 6’2 (6’2.25 guy)
viper said on 1/Feb/21
All the Notre Dame players measured their listed height
It's weird how they list most of their players at their correct height. Been doing it for a while now
viper said on 31/Jan/21
Sam Ehlinger at 6-1 is surprising.
Thought he was 6-2
viper said on 31/Jan/21
I haven't looked at the senior bowl measurements yet
Canson said on 31/Jan/21
@Vincent: I could see 6’2” for him. His Pro Day may have been earlier in the day. But I definitely can’t see 6’3.5 like Rob lists him and 6’1.5 although it looked possible with Bennett I think is too low. I feel he falls between 6’2-6’2.5 range too
Vincent Caleb said on 30/Jan/21
6’1.5” seems too low though. Maybe with bad posture he drops and inch in height to look it. 6’2.5” seems good to me, lowest I would say is 6’2.25”.
Canson said on 30/Jan/21
@Viper: it’s that time again. Senior Bowl measurements are out. What do you think?
Canson said on 30/Jan/21
@Viper: of course he is
viper said on 29/Jan/21
2:35 mark Merriman is clearly shorter than 6-3 Randy Moss
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viper said on 29/Jan/21
Merriman measured 6-2 at his pro day and I've seen him up close look 6-1.5-6-2.
He's shorter than Owens
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Jan/21
@184guy
No one's hating on Shawne. We were just discussing how he's nowhere near his 6'5" claim or his 6'4 3/8" "measurement".
viper said on 17/Jan/21
I'm a Maryland fan so I don't hate him.
I've seen him in person up close look
6-1.5-6-2
184guy2 said on 15/Jan/21
Why so much hate with Shawne ? LOL
viper said on 15/Jan/21
Green also has a 6-0 3/4 measurement
viper said on 13/Jan/21
I was reading an old Sports Illustrated article on Hugh Green before the start of the 1980 college football season
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although at 6'7/8 and 222 pounds he is not of epic size. ("I know I'm 6'2"," Green contends. "I've always been 6'2". But the pro scouts measured me different. Why would they want to make me shorter?")
Canson said on 11/Jan/21
@Vincent: that’s the minimum I’d give him. My bet is he measures maybe 1 hour out of bed at 6’5 3/8 to 3/4 range and 2 hours 6’5 1/4 to 6’5 5/8. I only throw those out because some guys lose at a slower rate 1/4” per hr). I also don’t rule out 6’5.25 for him (afternoon height). He almost gives a similar impression to Carson Wentz who I feel is about 6’5 (measured 6’5.25 and it specified it took place in the morning but it may have been a couple hours. But maybe he falls to 6’4 7/8
Vincent Caleb said on 4/Jan/21
Trevor Lawrence could be 6’5” flat.
Canson said on 2/Jan/21
@Viper: I wonder what Trevor Lawrence will end up measuring. I bet it’s over 6’5” being it’s early morning at the combine. My guess is he may be 6’5.75 or minimum 6’5.25 (at a stretch). I think he’s at minimum a legit 6’5 afternoon height. I also wonder what his pro day will be if he even takes part in the measurement
Vincent Caleb said on 2/Jan/21
I wonder if Merriman will ever get a downgrade. Even if he stays at this listing, his 6’5” claim still looks ridiculous
viper said on 1/Jan/21
Notre Dame lists a lot of their football players at their real height. I wonder why
viper said on 1/Jan/21
The supposed measurements on nfldraftscout for current college players arnt real.
They never have 6-2.3 6-2.4 6-2.7 measurements
Canson said on 31/Dec/20
@Christian: that’s well said on your part. If he really does think that way about being honest is downgrading, that’s pretty sad. But I guess people look at it as people who drive the speed limit and don’t speed aren’t cool. However Height is something that is tangible and fairly consistent. You’re speed changes more from second to second more than your height
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 31/Dec/20
@Canson
Maybe he thinks he's "keeping up" with everyone else, and that claiming honestly is somehow "downgrading".
Canson said on 30/Dec/20
@Vincent: agreed
Lol I don’t blame you on the boss. Does he inflate your height? If he does, I would probably get a tape measure out lol. I don’t like inflation but if they don’t do it to me I’ll be ok with it
Canson said on 30/Dec/20
@Christian: yea but that’s like saying everyone drinks a poison knowing it has a 90% chance of harming them and him doing the same. I don’t get why people do it knowing someone can measure you with tape or even pull a cell phone now for a quick and dirty measurement
viper said on 29/Dec/20
Canson, I've noticed the supposed "measurements" for current college players on nfldraftscout arnt real.
They never have any 6-2.3 6-2.4 or 6-2.7 type measurements.
Vincent Caleb said on 28/Dec/20
@Canson:
Very few people out there downgrade their height by more than a half inch knowingly. I’ve only known a couple people who do it. A childhood friend of mine claims 5’8”, although she is really 5’6”, but she wears massive heels so no one can tell. My boss is 6’ 1/2” and claims 6’2”, but obviously I don’t call him out on it lol. I don’t wanna lose my job.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 28/Dec/20
@Canson
He does. He inflates on purpose and his reasoning is that a lot of other people do it.
Canson said on 24/Dec/20
@Viper: I know someone who is 6’0 1/4-1/2 and claims 6’0”. He’s not a close friend but he was an associate.
Canson said on 24/Dec/20
@Christian: him claiming 6’4” is still bad but not as bad as 6’5”. I wonder if he knows how tall he actually is. But I will say my 197 friend who claims 6’7” at least knows his height. He will say he’s 6’6” barefoot but that he claims a shoe height. That’s not bad but he should stick to 6’6” in that case. All I know is my legit 6’6” friend is slightly taller than him back to back. 6’5.5 would be even better but I’m not sure how far over 6’5.5 he is. He looks 6’5 5/8” as he is shorter than him but about the same difference exists between he and my 6’5.25 friend but they often wear less footwear. However I’ve seen them back to back with him and it’s the same. He inflates everyone else which is even worse but I will say that he may be making strides by admitting he’s 6’7” in shoes
viper said on 23/Dec/20
Canson, a couple of others claim what they look like.
This guy could measure just 6-1 and change and throwing me off a little with footwear. Though I think he would measure 6-1.5 at least
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 23/Dec/20
@viper
Do you have other coworkers who round down their height? I don't have any ATM, but there are some who are honest, and others who inflate. The worst is one 6'3" guy who claims 6'5", or at least he used to. He now claims mostly 6'4".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Dec/20
@Vincent
In a seperate pic though, Gonzalez can look the same, if not taller.
Canson said on 22/Dec/20
@Vincent: yea that’s reasonable for him. Lol he was listed 6’5 during his career. I would say 6’3 5/8 or 6’3.75 and 6’4 for Strahan
viper said on 22/Dec/20
A guy I work with looks 6-1.5-6-2 all the time yet says he's just 6-1. Not too far off from Merriman's build.
Yet Merriman looked 6-1.5-6-2 and claims 6-5 lol
Vincent Caleb said on 22/Dec/20
Gonzalez and Strahan:
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Strahan has a little edge. Gonzalez is 6’3.75”.
viper said on 22/Dec/20
Gonzales can even look a little taller than Strahan.
viper said on 22/Dec/20
I don't know If Howie's lost any height but he gives off just a 6-2-6-3 impression on TV. He doesn't look as tall as Strahan and Gonzales.
Maybe it's just his build. I've known other 6-4 guys similar to Howie that look shorter to be fair.
Canson said on 21/Dec/20
@Viper: I agree with Christian. Gonzalez can look taller than Strahan on occasion but it’s the camera angle more than likely. I know Bobby3342 said his father met Howie Long in his prime and that he was closer to 6’4”. It’s likely that he lost height from his peak but that the 6’4.25 was his peak height and not 6’4.5 like Rob lists him. He did measure 6’4.25”. Hell I get guessed closer to 6’5 all the time unless I get a very proper 6’4” next to me. Not a disjointed 6’4 who is say an inch shorter than me claiming it (I’m a disjointed 6’5 if I claimed it). A normal 6’4 who doesn’t go under has a hard time telling who is taller. Even a guy who falls to 6’3.75 to 6’3.8 range only guesses me around 6’4.5 to which I just say 6’4.25 or so. Gonzalez only measured 6’4 1/8 likely early morning
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Dec/20
@viper
Gonzalez looks taller in some pics, and shorter in others. I know that a friend of mine said he looked a weak 6'4" in person.
viper said on 19/Dec/20
I'm a bit surprised Tony Gonzales barely measured 6-4.
He gives a bit taller impression than that to me. It seems like he has an inch on Howie Long when they stand near each other
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Dec/20
@viper
But the ironic thing is that Merriman was listed 6'3" during Maryland.
Canson said on 19/Dec/20
@Viper: yea you mean 6’1.75 is what that would be
viper said on 18/Dec/20
Kevin Eli who played with Merriman at Maryland was listed at 6-4 but measured 6-1.6
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Canson said on 18/Dec/20
@Christian: that’s the max that I have him. He was listed 6’5.75 on his Dallas Cowboys measurement.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Dec/20
@Vincent
6'5.75" is the max I'd give Bennett.
Vincent Caleb said on 17/Dec/20
@Canson:
Bennett isn’t even 6’6”, he looked 1.5 inches over Brady. Could be Anthony Joshua’s height.
Canson said on 17/Dec/20
@Editor Rob: but if he measured 6’6 1/8 combine he def wasn’t 6’7”
Editor Rob
yeah I'm just pointing out how even he's rounding himself up from 6ft 6 and change.
Being tall is no barrier to height inflation.
Canson said on 17/Dec/20
viper said on 15/Dec/20
I found a 6-2 listing for Merriman when he was a sophomore in high school. He was 15. For sure he was full grown by 15. He was a manchild in high school
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Merriman (6-2, 175 pounds) leads the Eagles with 102 tackles.
His senior year he was bumped up to 6-4. Yet when he got to Maryland he was listed at 6-3
Even If he was never measured 6-2 at his pro day that tells you right away he was never 6-4 to begin with.
Ah. They mentioned Hylton. They’re in Woodbridge but I’m still familiar with them.
Vincent Caleb said on 16/Dec/20
@viper:
The thing is, even if Brad is only 5’10” flat, which I am not quite sure he is that low, Merriman would still be looking at least 6’3”, when he is not that tall. I think there were other factors making him look shorter in the photo. I think 6’2 3/8” would be the best listing for Merriman, but I think a downgrade to an even 6’3” would be good.
viper said on 15/Dec/20
Vincent I believe Brad Pitt wrote down his real height of 5-10 on an audition form
viper said on 15/Dec/20
I found a 6-2 listing for Merriman when he was a sophomore in high school. He was 15. For sure he was full grown by 15. He was a manchild in high school
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Merriman (6-2, 175 pounds) leads the Eagles with 102 tackles.
His senior year he was bumped up to 6-4. Yet when he got to Maryland he was listed at 6-3
Even If he was never measured 6-2 at his pro day that tells you right away he was never 6-4 to begin with.
viper said on 15/Dec/20
Time for a downgrade to 6-2.5 Rob
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10. Detroit- Shawne Merriman (6-2, 274) is quite the impressive 4-3 DE or eventually could be converted to a OLB for the 3-4 should the Lions change schemes along with the rest of the NFL. He has the speed 4.69 and 4.65 & quickness 4.24 in the short shuttle to be a playmaker for the Lions. this should really bolster thier defensive front and easily the BPA.
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Merriman (6-2, 274) has a tremendous passion for the game with great acceleration around the end.
Editor Rob
I am aware of the mentions, I linked to it in the past.
Vincent Caleb said on 15/Dec/20
6’7” is a shoe height for Bennett. He consistently looked a solid 1.5 inches over Tom Brady. As for the footage of Merriman and Bennett, there was certainly no less than 3.5 inches. Easy 3.5 there. I don’t think that Brad Pitt picture is the greatest evidence. Not sure about the footwear, ground may be uneven, and a couple other factors like knee posture could be making Brad look shorter. If we look at the Booker T video we can see the ground is flat, posture is similar, footwear differential is not large, and he looks 6’2 3/8”. Booker T struggled to look 6’0.5” with Rob years ago, more recently I doubt he is over 6’0.25”.
Canson said on 13/Dec/20
@Vincent and Christian: Rising dissected it previously. This is Bennett with Merriman. He looks around 4” shorter there and throughout the video 3.5 is the least I see. Rob said it looked around 3”. That is enough for a 6’3 listing being Bennett measured 6’6 1/8 and 6’5.75 and Rob doesn’t necessarily trust Coachscout. 6’2.5 is really where we should start
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Editor Rob
not that he is, but Bennett's been pushing his claim to 6ft 7 on several occasions.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Dec/20
@Vincent
My pleasure!
Vincent Caleb said on 12/Dec/20
@Christian 6’5 3/8”:
All great pics. In those he could look anywhere from 6’1.5” to 6’3.25” depending on the pic, although the latter was more rare. Next to magic I could buy 6’2 3/8”, next to some of the other measured players I could buy 190. With Nelson Rosario not quite 6’2”. With Adrian Peterson 6’2.5”. With Dean muhtadi, I see clear evidence of a 6’2.5” guy. Looks terribly short with Larry English, but pulls of a good 6’3” with Rey mysterio. I think his height is all over the place, but I’m seeing a common range that he falls in, and it seems 6’2”-6’3”. Thanks for the great pics.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Dec/20
@Vincent
I've posted tons of pics on 8 and 9/Dec/18. Check them out if you like. (they're on page 5)
Vincent Caleb said on 10/Dec/20
He is quite blatantly nowhere near this listing. If we are being very generous, Shawne is 6’2.75”. I’d put him at 6’2 3/8”. I would post more pictures to help prove my point, but it seems almost all of the pics I have posted have been here before, except for maybe the Timothee chalamet pic and snoop dog pic.
recapa said on 10/Dec/20
190cm at best.way overlisted.
viper said on 10/Dec/20
I haven't seen that pic with Snoop
He looks 6-1.5 there
Vincent Caleb said on 9/Dec/20
@Viper:
The most I could buy there is 6’2.5-.75”, since Omar is closer to the camera. Look at him with Timothee Chalamet in the pic I posted. He looks 6’2” range. Also, in the Vernon Davis pic I posted he looks at most 6’2”.
Canson said on 9/Dec/20
@Viper: Max 6-2.5 if Omar is as listed. Rib says he has footwear advantage but I don’t see where it’s anymore than 1/4” of that
Vincent Caleb said on 8/Dec/20
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This is the best evidence I have seen of a 6’2 3/8” Merriman. We even have a comparison with Rob for proof.
That is two inches there. Booker T is listed 6’0.5”, but is more of a 6’0.25” guy with Rob and that pic is much older than the video. If this isn’t enough to convince of a downgrade, I don’t know what is.
Editor Rob
yeah that was brought up before, it certainly didn't help his claim.
Vincent Caleb said on 8/Dec/20
Here is Merriman with 6’3.25” measured(according to a draft site) Vernon Davis:
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Downgrade needed badly.
Here is Shawne in a pic with 6’3.5” (6’3.75” listed) Snoop Dogg. Though Shawne has a camera disadvantage, it is easy to tell who is taller.
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C’mon, if this dude is 6’3.5”, then I am 6’6”.
viper said on 8/Dec/20
I don't see barely 6-3 with Omar
I see barely 6-2
Canson said on 7/Dec/20
@Editor Rob: I can’t tell if he has footwear advantage in Merriman in that pic. If he does, it’s not anything more than 1/8” or 1/4” I doubt. But then the video with Bennett suggests the same. And this is if Omar is really as tall as he’s listed. He has claimed 6’5 too. Bennett was measured 6’5.75 when he played for the Cowboys as Viper provided. His 6’6 1/8 was a morning measurement. Too bad I’ve never seen him up close because I’m a Dallas fan and have seen him play before when they played in DC but I will say that Jason Witten only being 6’5” is believable in pics. Not surprising because they both were measured at the combine early morning. Either way, it’s hard to argue above 6’3” flat for Merriman as you even said Bennett looked. Really he looked around what Vincent said next to Bennett
Editor Rob
it depends what model Shawne had, but if you look closely, Omar has
Air Max 180 Plus which are 3.5cm.
Vincent Caleb said on 6/Dec/20
Here is Merriman next to 5’10” Timothee Chalamet, and 6’0.25”(listed a quarter higher)Nick Robinson(who is a little far from the camera).
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I think 4 inches over Chalamet at least. Next to Nick Robinson, he looks 6’2.75” taking posture into account, but he is closer to the camera, which could knock off a half inch off that. Maybe a strong 6’2” for Merriman.
Canson said on 5/Dec/20
@Editor Rob:
What do you make of this? He doesn’t look 6’3.5 with Omar nor did he look it in the video with 6’5.75 Martellus Bennett. Max he could look is 6’3” and that’s a stretch being Bennett clearly had at least 3” on him
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Editor Rob
it's tricky to say because omar has footwear advantage and is he ground straight? It certainly made Merriman look barely even 6ft 3, I remember the photo being discussed in the past on here.
Vincent Caleb said on 5/Dec/20
Omar Benson could be a touch over 6’5” like by 1/4. At this point 6’3” should be ruled out for Merriman. No 6’3” guy looks like that with a strong 6’5” guy.
Canson said on 4/Dec/20
@Viper: he should be slightly taller. Benson could be strong whereas Rosario is probably 6’4.75 or 6’4 5/8 if he measured what Christian said
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Dec/20
@Canson
Rosario's read 6051, if I'm not mistaken. So 6'5 1/8" perhaps.
viper said on 3/Dec/20
Merriman with 6-5 Omar Benson
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Omar looks even a bit taller than Nelson to me.
I wish the Merriman-Jamal Wilkes pic was still online
Merriman only looked 6-1 next to 6-6 Wilkes
viper said on 3/Dec/20
Rosario measured 6-5.1
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Theoretically he could be 6-4.5 since isaiah buggs measured 6-3.1 and 6-2.5
Since his track and field listed him at 6-4, think he's 6-4.5
Canson said on 2/Dec/20
@Viper: what was Rosario’s combine?
Vincent Caleb said on 2/Dec/20
@Viper:
Yeah, in pretty much every picture I’m seeing he looks 6’2”. There is enough evidence out there for a downgrade, and even 6’3” would be a good start. 6’2 3/8” would be what I have him as, though he could be shorter. He is a bit taller than Tebow though, so I wouldn’t go under 6’2”, if Tebow is 6’1.5”(although that is generous for Tebow).
viper said on 2/Dec/20
Nelson Rosario was listed at 6-4 on his track and field team.
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So 6-4.5 perhaps. He measured a weak 6-5
viper said on 30/Nov/20
Vincent, Merriman with 6-5 Nelson Rosario
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Vincent Caleb said on 29/Nov/20
@Viper:
That’s obviously more than 1.5 inches. 6’2” range for Shawne.
Canson said on 29/Nov/20
@Vincent: Viper posted this one a couple years ago but would like your thoughts. I tried to post it to you last week but it doesn’t appear to have gone through.
Martellus Bennett’s combine is 6’6 1/8” but Viper showed a different measurement with Dallas when he played for them. 6’5.75”. Here he is with Merriman.
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Vincent Caleb said on 28/Nov/20
I really think a downgrade to 6’3” would be a good start. I still think 6’2” range like viper and Carson said.
viper said on 28/Nov/20
Vincent, here's Merriman with 6-4.5 Barkley
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Canson said on 28/Nov/20
@Vincent: I agree with You and Viper and Christian. 6’3 is prob ok for a listing but a better one is 6’2.5”
viper said on 27/Nov/20
Merriman looks 6-2 at most with possible 6-8 Deanthony Langston
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Vincent Caleb said on 27/Nov/20
Merriman is 6’2 3/8”. He isn’t 3 inches over trump. Maybe 6’2.75” at best.
Canson said on 27/Nov/20
@Viper: I wonder about Wiley being he (physically) doesn’t always look 6’4 flat.
viper said on 27/Nov/20
I don't believe Wiley measured that imo
nflcombinestats has some errors
viper said on 27/Nov/20
Deanthony Langston may only be 6-8
With 6-10 Patrick Ewing.
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With 6-11 Deandre Ayton
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Canson said on 26/Nov/20
@Viper: and the 6’2.4 in his case meant 6’2 3/8” being all the other measurements had .8 and .9 next to them. It wasn’t like others where it was 6’2 4/8” his was 6’2.4 like Jason Whitten was 6’5.8 (other sites show 6’5.75). However, Whitten measured 6’5” flat on another occasion when you posted Martellus Bennett’s measurement. His must have been a very early measurement to get that. But remember Marcellus Wiley had 6’4.75 and has always been listed 6’4” throughout his career. His combine measurement was 6’4.38 so likely 2 inches were added if he really is only 6’2 3/8”. One thing is for certain. He’s not 3 inches let alone 4 taller than Trump even if the picture improved a bit.
viper said on 26/Nov/20
Deanthony Langston was listed 6-10 in college, which means 95 percent chance he's 6-9 tops
Vincent Caleb said on 26/Nov/20
In the picture with Trump, Donald was probably 6’0.25” at least at the time. I could see Merriman pulling off 6’ 2.75” max, but I would also list him at 6’2 3/8”.
viper said on 25/Nov/20
Merriman looks exactly how I saw him up close with 6-0 Trump, 6-1.5-6-2
viper said on 25/Nov/20
I'd have him listed here at 6-2.5
Canson said on 25/Nov/20
@Vincent: yea I can’t see that. I think 6’3” flat may be fair for a listing. Really I think he’s 6’2 range too. He looked it with Martellus Bennett who measured 6’6 1/8 and 6’5.75 later in the day when he measured with the Cowboys. I remember the video that was posted where the nurse measured him he mentioned 3 pairs of socks and one person responded back 6’3” after he claimed 6’5”. Someone else i know said he only looked around 6’2” too though. I actually saw him from a distance and assumed his listing was close to accurate but I really didn’t pay enough attention and wasn’t close enough to him. One of two things is up. Either it means he has always been way over listed or he has extremely poor posture 75% of the time or more
Vincent Caleb said on 25/Nov/20
He is certainly not 6’4 3/8”
With a much shrunken Donald Trump:
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That is not too old of a picture.
viper said on 24/Nov/20
6-9 Deanthony Langston with Merriman and Pitt
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Merriman looks 6-3 and Pitt 5-10
viper said on 24/Nov/20
"Maybe that's what happened, they accidentally inverted that figure and submitted 6-2.4 instead of 6-4.2?"
Not really.
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1st round, 12th pick- Shawne Merriman, OLB, Maryland
The Chargers had a pressing need to improve their pass rush. To that end, they drafted a man who has the potential to be one of the best pass rushers in the league in Merriman. Merriman is compact at 6-2, 274, and accelerates very quickly to beat the man assigned to block him to the outside
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Nov/20
@Vincent
I'd go far as to say that it's worse than Tebow.
Vincent Caleb said on 23/Nov/20
@Christian 6’5 3/8”:
This is looking like another Tim Tebow situation. Dude is lucky if he gets 6’3”.
@Andrea:
This listing is just too high. He can look 6’2 and change sometimes.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Nov/20
@Vincent
If I was Rob, I'd list Shawne 6'3" as a compromise between the two extremes. (his former 6'4" listing on here and the alleged 6'2" measurement from his Pro Day)
Canson said on 22/Nov/20
Vincent Caleb said on 19/Nov/20
@Editor Rob: If this guy measured 6’2 3/8” then why is he listed this high?
Editor Rob
he's been reported to measure 6ft 2 3/8 and 6ft 4 3/8th. The NFL put him on screen at 6ft 4 3/8th as if that was the 'truth'...however was it a mistake, did he really measure between 6ft 2-3 or a solid 6ft 4...he definitely wants people to believe he is 6ft 4+
@Editor Rob: if the latter is true, it means his posture is horrible more often than it is good.
Editor Rob
or he knows "The way of the sock"...
I was reading an article the other day in an old newspaper about how The Police commission in some city had caught too candidates out trying to fraud their way into the police force.
The first had tied weights to their legs somehow to raise their weight to the minimum.
The other had 'padded' their socks to reach the height requirement...
Andrea said on 21/Nov/20
Yeah, he does look pretty big with Pitt there. Certainly well over 6'2-6'3, unless Pitt really is more 5'9... 😱
The 6'4.25 is interesting because that would be 6-4.2 in couchscout's terms, which is the exact "opposite" of 6-2.4... Maybe that's what happened, they accidentally inverted that figure and submitted 6-2.4 instead of 6-4.2?
Andrea said on 20/Nov/20
Maybe because the 6'2 4/8 figure (not 6'2 3/8 like it keeps getting mentioned) only comes from an unofficial site whose the owner himself admitted it's not always exempt of errors?
If that was a fact (like some people love to make it seem), I'm pretty sure that Rob would have already downgraded him to that... 😉
Editor Rob
Vincent Caleb said on 19/Nov/20
@Editor Rob: If this guy measured 6’2 3/8” then why is he listed this high?
Editor Rob
he's been reported to measure 6ft 2 3/8 and 6ft 4 3/8th. The NFL put him on screen at 6ft 4 3/8th as if that was the 'truth'...however was it a mistake, did he really measure between 6ft 2-3 or a solid 6ft 4...he definitely wants people to believe he is 6ft 4+
Vincent Caleb said on 18/Nov/20
@Christian 6’5 3/8”: Yea that is the type I am talking about. It was on the wall and it started about three feet above the ground. I was a teenager at the time, and I got a little mad about it until I asked My dad to get under it and it measured him way lower. Perhaps Darius Campbell got measured on one of those and that’s why he claimed 6’2”.
viper said on 18/Nov/20
In high school when I was 6-0 I was accurately measured at 6-1 with my shoes on.
I was facing the stadiometer instead of having my back towards it.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Nov/20
@Vincent
I've also seen stadiometers attached to walls. Those are probably the most inaccurate types. I'd completely avoid those.
Vincent Caleb said on 17/Nov/20
@Christian 6’5 3/8”:
There are some stadiometers at doctors office’s that only start at the 3ft range. Over time they get pushed farther down, and less accurate.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Nov/20
@Vincent
Bottom half?
Vincent Caleb said on 11/Nov/20
@Viper: Also got measured at 5’11” once when I was 6’2”. I think the stadiometers where the bottom half is missing are pretty awful.