Arjun said on 25/Mar/07
Richard, you saw just what I saw!!! Yes, from the 6th photo, the doc is max 6' as he's only max 8 inches taller than the 5'4" girl. And in the 7th photo, the same doc is stated to be Stadnyk's doc (The man in the middle is his doctor, I believe his name is Bessler) so he is really the very same " 6'4" " doc. From the 7th photo, it is clear that Stadnyk has only 17 inches or so on the " 6'4" " doc who's actually 6'. Making him clearly 7'5", when there is no BS like tiptoeing (which I think he's doing in the 6th photo where we can't see his feet, he towers over the doc in that photo more than in the 7th one where we can see his feet) So the entire thing IS a fraud. Stadnyk is clearly struggling with 7'6" barefoot. Those last two photos almost CERTAINLY prove Stadnyk to be no more than this height.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 25/Mar/07
Ok kshutchins, so much for your "EVIDENCE". I am going to refute ALL of your photos, ONE BY ONE. Here we go:
1st photo: Man in brown suit looks around 18 inches shorter than Stadnyk. Stadnyk is closer to the camera, see where their feet are. Even with him being closer, he is MAX 19-20 inches taller. And the guy in the brown suit looks no taller than 5'11", or so as he only has a head on Stadnyk's mother. Where does this put Stadnyk if the brown suit man is 5'11"??? 5'11" + 20 inches = 7'7" , and that's being generous as there may very well be less than 20 inch difference, and the brown suit guy may not be a full 5'11".
2nd photo: I am barely 5'8". My hands are only ~7" long from wrist to tip of middle finger, many guys of even my height have bigger hands. And yet, I can find MANY women who have hands an inch or even more smaller than mine (6" or less). And in any case, we are not denying that Stadnyk has huge hands. Do huge hands (or feet) automatically mean taller??? Nope. Shaq has considerably bigger feet than Yao (size 23 to Yao's size 18) , does that make him taller than Yao???? Bottom line: This photo proves nothing whatsoever regarding Stadnyk's height.
3rd photo:Stadnyk actually does'nt seem to tower the girl that much here.
But , I will be fair to him and say that this photo is taken from a low angle AND with the photographer standing reasonably close, thereby foreshortening the difference between her and Stadnyk.
4th photo: Same girl as above, but the angle is better here.It looks to be over a 2 foot, but under a 2 1/2 feet difference. But how do you know how tall the girl is? She could very well be under average, around (say) 5'2".
5th photo: How do we know how tall the horse is? Or what Stadnyk is standing on??
6th photo: The girl's doc is only 7.5 - 8 inches taller than her as she's upto his mouth. And the girl is stated as 5'4", so there is no way in hell that she is taller than that. Making the doc 6' at best. Stadnyk is closer to the camera here, and we can't see his feet. The next pic shows their feet, always a better reference point no?
7th and last photo: The guy in the middle , said to be Stadnyk's doc (Bessler) in this photo is clearly the very same doc in the last photo. Here, we can see Stadnyk's feet. See how the difference between him and Stadnyk has shrunk??? Stadnyk is probably on his tiptoes in the previous pic.
He's standing straight and looks to have MAX 18 inches on the doc (who is 6' maximum). So he's struggling with 7'6" in this pic, with a person of KNOWN height.
There you go kshutchins. It is clear that the doc is nowhere near 6'4" if the girl is 5'4", as he struggles to have 8 inches on her, let alone a foot. So basically, Stadnyk is surrounded by BULLs***TERS like himself. A doc struggling with 6' claiming 6'4"???? That alone removes all credibility.
All your amazing "evidence", when properly analysed, points to a height no taller than 7'7" at the absolute most. Most probably around 7'6" or so barefoot - CASE CLOSED.
Cheers,
Arjun
99mvp said on 25/Mar/07
kshutchins- I am not a "self-declared" brainiac. I have an IQ near genius level. I am a tax attorney. You cannot match me intellectually, I assure you. Whether you choose to be impressed with me or not is of course entirely your affair. You state that "different people see things differently" and talk about juries. Let me tell you something, from someone who has been before juries. They can be manipulated. They are not the arbiters of the truth. The TRUTH stands on its own, independent of what YOU choose to believe. The TRUTH could care less what kshutchins chooses. You cannot be a liitle bit pregnant, sir. Either Stadnyk is or is not 8'4" barefoot at any any part of the day. So this quaint notion of yours that we cannot "change your opinion" is nonsense on its face. You can have the "opinion" that the world is flat, but that doesn't make it so, does it? Because this is NOT an opinion subject. It IS about being misled in a fake measurement session. This IS about the TRUTH. But as Jack Nicholson said in "A Few Good Men", maybe you can't handle the truth. Your son is might be competent in other walks of life, but he is a complete fool here. Stadnyk is not in the Guinness book for one reason and ONE reason only- he is shorter than Xi Shun and Zhang.
Richard and Arjun are very smart. They have shown you the error of your ways, especially Richard's last post. But you refuse to see the truth. Don't you think we would accept Stadnyk's claim if he was being truthful? We have no agenda here. He does not threaten the great
Robert Wadlow's record. But maybe you are smarter than I give you credit for, and are just doing this to tweak and agitate us searchers for the truth.
Richard said on 25/Mar/07
Arjun, Editor Rob, 99mvp, and all the rest of the team..... (Rob- please make sure you put this post in the correct chronological order)
GUYS -THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT - I HAVE JUST DISCOVERED SOMETHING THAT WILL DESTROY THE STADNYK MYTH FOREVER: On the blog that features those Stadnyk photos it clearly states that the "young lady is 5'4"; She (THE LADY IN THE BLUE TOP) is VERY clearly slightly below the mouth of the Doc which will make her 7.5-8in shorter. This puts the Doc as max 6'!!!!! Surely this can't be the "6'4 Doc" ??????? If it is then I declare the ENTIRE thing a total fraud. Even if that is not the "6'4 Doc" then we can see that he is MAX 6' AND ONLY 3-4in below the shoulder of Stadnyk (you have to look at the lower photo to see that the doc TRULY is 3-4in ) MEANING that Stadnyk is approx 7'5 !!!!!!!!!, which is in keeping with ALL that we have said. Feedback please ?????!!!!??????
Either scenario gives stadnyk a height of approx 7'5........ that photo of the woman in the blue top has brought about the demise of both kshutchins and stadnyk. It was a fatal decision of hutchins to introduce us to that blog. Letting us know that lady is 5'4 provides us with the final nail to tap into Stadnyk's coffin. Anybody care to comment ??????
Richard said on 25/Mar/07
kshutchins (later Arjun)- Yes, I repeat 3-4 inches -the lower photo which features that man is the key photo and even that photo still favours Stadnyk because he is nearer to the camera. For that man to be in the 6' range he would have to be a full 12" lower than the shoulder which is just ridiculous. That photo shatters your dreams; you are either a naive plonker or a floundering fraud. I expect you are a floundering fraud because surely nobody can be stupid enough to think that he is legit 8'4 ???
Arjun- can you just confirm that 3-4" below the shoulder (for the man in the brown suit) is a good estimate based on the lower of the two photos that feature him. The more people that confirm my findings the further we will get from these tiresome kshutchins lectures.
kshutchins said on 25/Mar/07
Is the phrase "tax documents" supposed to impress me? Or maybe "intellectual brilliance" was the operative phrase designed to set me all aquiver. Maybe the fact that you SAY that you are humble should have me slapping my forehead in disbelief that I should ever doubt your word. It's this simple: I choose to believe the reporting of a completely trustworthy, objective individual who met Stadnyk and was present when he was measured rather than third-hand assessments of photographs. When I described the cynical response to the pictures my son remarked, "This just proves that ignorance reinforces itself. Our experiment is complete. It has taken centuries to develop a test that will reveal the true depths of ignorance. It's finally been done: The Internet." I've had conversations of greater intellectual challenge on sports message boards so don't delude yourself into thinking I need the approval of the self-declared brainiacs here. Have you ever seen a life-sized photograph of Shaq or
Michael Jordan? They really don't LOOK tall unless you stand someone of nearly equal height next to the photos. In the absence of that third dimension, something is lost. Just ask the NASA scientists how difficult it is to determine scale from video images. (Oops, maybe you are one of those people who believes the moon landings were faked. They MUST be real. There are PICURES!) Clearly nothing I have to offer can change your opinion or mine so we are just wheel-spinning. Different people just see things differently. That's why there are 12 people on a jury. The unfairly accused can hope and pray that at least ONE will grasp the truth. Argue on, non-believers! Adios.
99mvp said on 24/Mar/07
kshutchins- You are quite wrong about Stadnyk. I am typing this over my stack of tax documents. While I ignore the rantings of an ethically-challenged poster ( who cannot match my intellectual brilliance by the way, which I do say humbly ) as per the editor Rob's request, an objective observer will conclude what is obvious- that Stadnyk is NOT near 8'4"! Why are you so blind, kshutchins? I am merely interested in the truth and you have foolishly fallen for Stadnyk's scam and his explanation that "he has no interest in participating in any more official measurements since they interfere with his life". Were you just born yesterday?
kshutchins said on 24/Mar/07
Richard, 3-4 inches? On what planet? In MY humble opinion, anyone who bases "factual" judgements of height on photographic "evidence" rather than actual measurement is no better than a pompous blowhard. Enjoy your next liquid lunch, oh exalted one.
Richard said on 24/Mar/07
Everybody- On my last post I meant to write "kshutchins" and not LV. Please accept my biggest apology LV !!!!!!! In my humble opinion that post has destroyed Stadnyk once and for all and in any sane world, I would be heralded in the same breath as a war hero. In reality I will just get a jealous backlash from a lonely man whose life revolves around tax papers.
Richard said on 24/Mar/07
LV - The type of "solid evidence" that 99mvp is so desperate for ,CAN'T be found within those photos !!!!!! However, what evidence there is, still points towards Stadnyk being in the mid 7' range: For Stadnyk to be 8'4 the man in the brown suit would have to be 6'10 because he is only 3-4 in off Stadnyks shoulder and Stadnyk has a SHORT neck which is one of his flaws!!! Secondly, the womans hand photo is inconlusive to the extreme---- she is just one of MANY women who have a 5in hand- half my girl friends have hands that look like babies when compared to mine.... the man in the long jacket- he is only about 4' from stadnyks shoulder and he is not a tall man despite the fact that he towers Stadnyk's mother WHO IS CERTAINLY UNDER 5'- AND I WILL CRUSH ANYONE WHO ARGUES WITH ME ABOUT THAT.
On top of everything else, the angles really do favour Stadnyk and his shoes look chunkier than ever.... still feel so confident 99mvp ?????????????
BTW -your blossoming friendship with LV makes me want to vomit!
kshutchins said on 24/Mar/07
Richard, I don't feel like a prize turkey at all. I feel more like the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind. Mr. Stadnyk WAS measured and documented by the Ukrainian version of the Guinness book. He was descended upon by news people from around the world who did nothing more than interfere with his life. Henceforth he had no interest in participating in any more "official" measurements. Need more pictures to argue over? Try these:
Click Here
LV said on 24/Mar/07
I know we can't believe TLC, but they stated that the doctor was 6'4". Maybe they did that to make Stadnyk appear taller? I'm confident he's over 6'2" or 6'3". Here is the only picture I've got, its very poor quality (
Click Here).
Richard said on 24/Mar/07
Arjun- Until we see more photos, we have nearly bled the Stadnyk case dry. However, can you just tell me one thing: How far was the supposed 6'4 Doc off Stadnyk's shoulder- Yuschenko was very close to 4in (possibly 3.5in),this is very accurate because Stadnyk simply was not hunched in the photo (the one very near the door near the mother) and the camera angle was relatively good. WE KNOW that Yuschenko is 5'10, so for the Doc to be legit 6'4 he would have to be approx 2in passed Stadnyk's shoulder. I think I remember reading that the doc was several inches below-If this is true then the Doc is around 6' !!!!!!! Read and weep Stadnyk.
Some legit 6'0 guys can EASILY look about 6'3 on TV.....no problem at all. ...we have seen it time and time again over the years. I bet that Doc is shorter than 6'4. Too many intelligent people have been too naive with the Stadnyk case.
Arjun said on 24/Mar/07
Speaking of height estimations from "photographic evidence", Guinness is quite a bogus estimator in some cases. Eddie Carmel was credited to be almost 7'7" (7'6 5/8" or something like that) yet I don't think he was any more than low 7 foot range looking at his pics. 7'2" or so max.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 24/Mar/07
LV, I agree that there is no way Stadnyk is even a legit barefoot 7'10", as then he would atleast be taller than Xi Shun and get the record. He's definitely under 7'9", the absolute tallest he could be in my opinion is 7'7" barefoot, most likely some cm under that. He certainly looks no taller than 7'8" max next to a SUPPOSEDLY 5'10" man in excellent posture. After you take off shoes, 5'10" guy being closer to 5'8" maybe, etc . even a barefoot legit 7'7" is hard to believe. Knowing Stadnyk, there is NO WAY IN HELL that he would stand on lower ground for that photo even by mistake - if anything , he would stand on higher ground to lok taller. I'm being generous by assuming he's standing on even ground. He's clearly standing on higher ground in the OTHER photo with the kids .... I wonder why?
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 24/Mar/07
Richard, the "6'4" " doctor may certainly be closer to 6'2", you never know. But Stadnyk just does'nt have that doc by more than 16" - and even that's being very generous.
So assuming doc is say 6'3", and there is a 16 inch difference, that put's Stadnyk at max 7'7". Subtract an inch for his chunky shoes, and we're back at around 7'6".
Cheers,
Arjun
99mvp said on 23/Mar/07
LV- I understand. An honest mistake is certainly understandable, unlike Richard who in his zeal to get rid of the singular most obnoxious person on any of these threads ( a guy named "kg" ) crossed a boundary that I can NEVER forgive. The most important principle on any message board ( indeed in LIFE ) is TRUST. We have to be able to rely on the principle that the person posting a message is in fact that person and not a fraud. It is a FATAL error on Richard's part and kills him off as a person to be trusted on these message boards as far as I am concerned. I can only speak for myself but since I possess superior intellect, my opinion should carry extra weight. I am sad to say this, but Richard's credibilty has been shattered forever. Anyone who does it once is capable of doing it again.
kshutchins and Neil- You are both delusional. Leonid Stadnyk is not at least 7'10", let alone 8'4". Have you seen pictures of legitimate 8-footers, especially the one-and-only
Robert Wadlow? Do you honestly think that Stadnyk is as tall as Sun Ming Ming, the subject matter of this thread? Come on now- get real here.
Richard said on 23/Mar/07
99mvp,Everybody and later kshutchins.
99mvp- my "ludicrous" bricks & mortar observation was given the thumbs up from Arjun: "your science does indeed prove that Stadnyk can't be much more than 7'4" He was right of course - Totally dismissing that analysis was rather obtuse 99mvp.
I take umbarge with you bad mouthing my writing skills: When I said " I will eat you" that was just in keeping with my Hannibal Lecter persona. Quite witty actually.
kshutchins- Its all too late....if you had been involved with the Wadlow thread back in jan and feb you will have read my analysis based on the exterior bricks of stadnyks house which can be clearly seen in several photos behind him. Any architect will tell you that they have NO MORE than 7.5cm mortar centres.....and 8 of the bricks have mortar joints of about 2cm (due to cowboy ukrainian builders) and there is obviously the lone double thickness brick near his head. this analysis (not an EXACT science but still compelling) gave him about 7'4 and actually proved that he can't be near 8'4. ALSO the interior wall tiles (featured in the picture with the tiny woman standing on chair) are very close to 5in , possibly 5.2 in giving him 7'4.5 after other wall features were taken into account. I now believe 7'4.5in is about 1in too short following more recent photos. For him to be 8'4 the wall tiles would have to be a fraction less than 6in which is totally impossible......once again ANY interior designer or architect will tell you that those tiles SIMPLY cannot be 6in-it really is so obvious. So, It is actually impossible for Stadnyk to be more than 7'8 !!!! he is in the mid 7' range....it does not matter how genuine you think he is or how naive your family is. Yes, I admit I am frustrated...but I would rather feel this way than to feel like a prize turkey, which is how you must be feeling right...........now!!! You are now out of depth and are now dealing with highly intelligent people like myself. PERHAPS the only person with a similar level of intellect to yourself, is 99mvp.
LV said on 23/Mar/07
99mvp, I was at work at it didn't save my user name. I admitted it was me right after it happened. I'm not trying to hide anything.
99mvp said on 23/Mar/07
I meant to write "kshutchins".
99mvp said on 23/Mar/07
kshutkins- While I vehemently disagree with you about Leonid Stadnyk's height, I enjoyed your last post where you bashed Richard. While at first he appears intelligent, the totality of his postings indicate a disturbed unstable mind who I have concluded is a schitzo goofball ( he writes about drinking wine, being to hell and back, talking about eating me, etc- just nonsensical ramblings ). I prefer stable intelligent postings and I never forgive someone who crosses ethical boundaries, which he did. And to show how ethical I am- I dismiss him now even though he crossed that line to get rid of someone ( kg ) who is a total nut. But my ethics and principles are of the highest caliber, and I never compromise on them. This all occurred on the
Robert Wadlow thread.
So this board should certainly feel free to dismiss Richard's theories, which can shift- his brick/mortar observations have been ludicrous. The first time he posed that theory, he had to retreat from it and now who knows what the heck he is blabbering about? But personally I think he is a secretly-frustrated writer since he prefers flowery language which is not appropriate for this board, which is a discussion about giants. He thinks he is more clever than he is. There is fake intelligence and there is true intelligence ( me ).
But of course in this particular case, he is correct about Leonid Stadnyk.
kshutchins said on 23/Mar/07
As fun as it would be to continue causing Richard incredible frustration, I'll leave you to your silly argument over door frames (which of you measured the door frame?) and the height of the doctor (who measured HIM?) not to mention the optical distortion caused by the camera angle and Stadnyk's hunched position. I realize that if you accepted the facts as reported the party would be over and you'd all have to move on to "proving" the height of some other person unknown to you all. Your inferences have nothing to do with fact. Go back to having too much wine at lunch and debating things that no one on the planet can possibly dispute. I can direct you all to a message board where you can debate whether or not Babe Ruth called his shot. That would keep you busy for a long time. P.S. Try consulting the British press for news articles about Stadnyk (clearly their reputations hinge on perpetuating this hoax.)::eyes rolling heavenward::
99mvp said on 22/Mar/07
Neil- So you say Stadnyk is at least 7'10". I say you are wrong! For someone who supposedly likes giants as much as the rest of us, you are clearly not adept at accuracy regarding their heights. I suspect that Leonid will never get himself measured properly ( by Guinness ) to show you and kshutchins how blind you two have been.
By the way, I saw this: "LV says on 21/Mar/07- Anonymous was me".
So, WHY did you post under the name "Anonymous"?? Richard committed the cardinal sin on the
Robert Wadlow thread by posing as someone else ( a wacko named kg ) and then tried to rectify the situation by switching to the name "Michael" and has now switched back- he is a goofball. But why did you not post as yourself, LV?
LV said on 22/Mar/07
Neil, you are correct, you originally guessed his height between 7'8" and 7'10". That's not totally impossible, but unlikely. He'd have to be slouching in nearly every picture and video I've seen of him. If he was 7'10", don't you think he'd just say he was 7'10" since that would make him the tallest man in the world? The more I see of him, the more I'm convinced he's not over 7'8", but likely shorter. I just want someone to officially measure him to get this debate over with.
Neil said on 22/Mar/07
99 I never said Stadnik WAS 8'4, I said he was atleast 7'10. He is certainly taller than 7'6, the pic with the 6'4 doctor you can quite clearly see that Stadnik is leaning and is not stood up straight.
Arjun said on 22/Mar/07
Neil - there is absolutely no way in the universe that Stadnyk could be 8'4". Trust me, if he were even close, we would'nt be bothering to argue. All the decent photos of him with people of known height show MAX 7'7", and that's being generous. Look at Rik Smits (7'4") next to 6'4" guys and then at Stadnyk next to a 6'4" doc. I am STRUGGLING to see even 3 inches difference, let alone 6 or more.
Cheers,
Arjun
LV said on 21/Mar/07
Anonymous was me...Neil that still doesn't make sense if he's 2ft taller than a 6'6" doorway...that would make him taller than 8'4". I didn't see that show, but don't need to because he clearly isn't 2ft taller than the doctor (
Click Here)...Scroll down until you see the picture of Stadnyk next to the doctor.
Richard said on 21/Mar/07
Arjun- as you know, I missed the docu due to me being based in Berlin; Was this "6'4 doctor" certainly 6'4 ? do we know this person well (despite the fact we may have seen him on another docu...) or is he part of the whole Stadnyk scam and really just a 6'2 doctor who can pass for 6'4 on TV or even a guy who was 6'3 20 years ago when last measured and has now lost an inch?????? I know for a fact that Georg Wessels can't be 5'11 for example because he was clearly 6' or 7' below Stadnyk's shoulder and Yuschenko at about 5'10 was only 3-4in away. people who BS generally want to be surounded by fellow BSers.
Neil said on 21/Mar/07
Anonymous youve got it all wrong I dont mean the pic of yuschenko in the hospital where stadniks mother is, the doorways there are 7'6. I mean the Discovery channel programme 'My Shocking Story',it is a completely different hospital. The doorways in the corridors there are roughly 6'6.
99mvp said on 21/Mar/07
Neil- I saw the Discovery Channel show. Leonid Stadnyk is indeed an impressively large man. He is nowhere near 8'4". Neil, you have been badly duped. Anonymous has put you in your place. Where is your apology to this board for spreading your lies? You have to understand something. This is a FACTUAL matter. There can be no opinion about this. He is either 8'4" or he is not. And let me tell you something about me- I have NEVER been wrong about a factual matter. Never. Because I despise the thought of being factually incorrect. So I make sure that I do not declare something to be a fact without KNOWING that it is a fact. And I KNOW that Stadnyk is not 8'4".
Anonymous said on 21/Mar/07
Neil, I completely puzzled by your post. You say Stadnyk's shoulder is at least 2' higher than the doorway?! So now he's 9 feet tall? Then you say the 6'4" doctor walks under a 6'8" doorway and is 2' lower than the top of the doorway? Even if you mean 2", neither comment makes much sense. It's not about victor yuschenko, its the fact that he's maybe 7'6" compared to a 7ft doorway. I don't know how many times I have to say this, but look at a picture of Wadlow then look at a picture of Stadnyk. You'd have to be blind to think he's 8ft tall. I've said it before, he isn't much taller than the 7'4" Rik Smits according to the pictures I posted and I'd be surprised if he were over 7'6" or 7'7".
Neil said on 21/Mar/07
Did any of you see the programme on Discovery called My Shocking Story? Arjun and Richard please take note, if you ever do watch it look out for the clip where Stadnik goes under a hospital doorway, his shoulder height is atleast 2' higher than the doorway. The 6'4 doctor goes under the same doorway and is 2' lower than the top of the doorway so Stadniks shoulder height must be atleast 6'8.You 2 are going off just one picture with victor yuschenko and seem to be downgrading him every time you do a write up on here.
Arjun said on 21/Mar/07
Richard - I doubt there is even 3 inches from Stadnyk's chin to shoulder, considering his lack of neck. 1 - 1.5 inches is more like it. He's STRUGGLING with 7'6" in the photos with Yuschenko. Heck, Shaq looks taller compared to Earl Boykins ( thats about a 19-20 inch difference, Boykins being 5'4" - 5'5" and Shaq 7'0") than Stadnyk does to Yuschenko. And although Stadnyk has a bigger head, Shaq has correspondly more neck to make up for it.
Cheers,
Arjun
Neil said on 20/Mar/07
And you can get to the pics of Stadnik just click the link below error 404.
Neil said on 20/Mar/07
LV, If you look at my comments I never said he was 8'4. I actually said "He was atleast 7'10".
Richard said on 20/Mar/07
kshutchins (later 99mvp) - Yes, suggesting that you get off the thread was a little harsh- I had several glasses of wine with my lunch prior to writing that post. However, now I am entirely sober; For stadnyk to be 8'4 he would have to be 30in taller than the Ukranian president and seeing as his shoulder is only 4in above that mans head (and there is 3in from his shoulder to chin) then Stadnyk would have to have a 23in head which is double his actual head size. Stadnyk is in the mid 7' range.Please trust us.
99mvp - sadly, kshutchins will never admit they were duped because the family were heavily involved in the whole proceedure and MAY even be in on the scam. I expect they are in on it because if the daughter inlaw actually held the measuring tape she must have seen he was not 2.53m. Perhaps Stadnyk cut off 10-12in from the start of the tape?? Its all nonsense and incredibly frustrating.
99mvp said on 20/Mar/07
kshutkins- Unlike Richard, I do not want you off this thread. If you knew ME, you would grasp one simple concept- that all I care about is the TRUTH. The messenger is not relevant. Your family and you might be very nice people for all I know. This is not about that and, as Richard says, it is not about ego. It is about the TRUTH. And the truth of the matter is this- you are flat-out WRONG. You have provided no proof whatsoever. In fact, you can't. Because by definition proof can only be hoped to be obtained for something that is in fact TRUE. Since the truth is that Stadnyk is nowhere near 8'4", you CANNOT get proof that he is. That is simple air-tight logic.
The only ego in play here is yours. It is not easy to admit that one has been duped.
Richard said on 20/Mar/07
kshutchins-----This is not about egos, or stretching arms, or going to stadnyk's house 10 times- this is about us KNOWING that you are WRONG. Believe me, it is impossible for Stadnyk to be over 2.50m because the photos actually PROVE this.HE IS CERTAINLY IN THE MID 7' RANGE. We do not have time for you or your family because you are talking absolute s***.What the hell are you talking about !?!!Get off this thread!!!.............and:
"natural reaction to be skeptical of television" ??????????? Your philosophical idealism is deplorable.
kshutchins said on 19/Mar/07
99mvp, LV, I understand your skepticism, since you don't know me or my family. I believe that if you met us, you'd feel differently. TLC did not "travel to Europe" to film Stadnyk. Discovery Channel does not film it's own stories. They outsource all of their documentaries to other companies. This particular spot was filmed by Wild Pictures, a British company. It was an easy hop to Ukraine from there, especially since they had a liaison with a British press agency in Kyiv, i.e. my daughter-in-law. My son, who is 6 ft 1 in tall, says he had to stand on his tiptoes and stretch his arm as high over his head as he could to reach Stadnyk's height. Again, my daughter-in-law actually appears in the spot. She was at Stadnyk's house about ten times, meeting with him, planning, and filming. You can believe me or not. Those are the facts. I can understand that it's a natural reaction to be skeptical of television, and, for that matter, of strangers on line. But I suspect that no matter what proof I provide, you will not believe me because your ego will not permit it.
99mvp said on 19/Mar/07
Neil- Like for Richard, your link failed for me as well. Nevertheless, you are another person who does a disservice to the board by having no clue what you are talking about. Do you enjoy supporting lies? Stadnyk is NOT well over 7'6". You have been duped long with kshutchin's son and daughter-in-law.
LV said on 18/Mar/07
Neil, there is alot of doubt he's "well over 7'6"". Just a few days ago, you were sure he was 8'4" and now you're changing your tune. It's obvious you have some doubt, too. Like I've said, I'd love him to be 8'4", but he just isn't. Did you look at my links of the 7'4" Rik Smits? Stadnyk isn't much taller.
Richard said on 18/Mar/07
Neil, Your link failed (for me) but I suspect you are writing about a picture that features Stadnyk standing on caked snow in the middle of the road giving him extra height. The man could well be near 6' but that picture does not provide compelling evidence that he is "well over 7'6" -just not enough clear info.
Neil said on 18/Mar/07
If you go onto this link:
Click Here you will see in the pictures of Stadnik that he is well over 7'4 if you go down the link there will be one picture of Stadnik next to a group of other people, the man to the right of Stadnik is about 6' tall, go onto the link where is says more photos and you will see some more pics Of Stadnik, there can be no doubt he is well over 7'6.
Arjun said on 18/Mar/07
99mvp - You said "There is NOT A CHANCE in the world that he actually measures 8'4" barefoot at any time of the day".
I disagree with you somewhat. I say "There is NOT A CHANCE in the world that he measures 8'4" EVEN WITH HIS CHUNKIEST OF SHOES at any time of day"
LOL.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 18/Mar/07
Richard, a question to you. If your head is exactly 10 inches, how would you say it looks compared to that of other guys? Small, average or big???
My head is just over 9", but I am just shy of 5'8", and I would say my head is average or slightly above compared to guys in my height range.
Cheers,
Arjun
99mvp said on 17/Mar/07
kshutchins- You stated that your "daughter-in-law was present when Stadnyk was measured at 257 centimeters" and that "you can't get much better than a first person account unless you measure him yourself. My son was there with his wife." LV, Richard, and Arjun have completely rejected their assertion that Stadnyk is 8'4". Now let the smartest person ( me ) weigh in on this: Since you son and daughter-in-law believe that they have seen proof that Stadnyk is 8'4", then they are FOOLS. I am indeed sorry for having smeared your family, but I have NO PATIENCE for anybody who has a reckless disregard for the truth. How did they allow themselves to get duped like that? There is NOT A CHANCE in the world that he actually measures 8'4" barefoot at any time of the day. I would bet my LIFE on it. Would you? Would your son? Your daughter-in-law? Stadnyk is not a nice man- he is a manipulative piece of garbage for getting credit for a height he does not deserve. He is a fraud and a charlatan. And your family fell for it all. If there is one thing I despise, it is the promotion of falsehoods/lies/fraud/deception/manipulation.
Richard said on 17/Mar/07
Yes and also Arjun- his shoes are mega chunky as well- could be 5-6cm of sole. That could give him an extra inch. I expect his chin to top of head is 11in. Mine is exactly 10in and I am 6'2.5........ that door looks about 7'3 to me. It can't be 7'6 because that would make stadnyk 7'7----I only think he has about 3in on the door after taking into account camera angle which favours him.
Arjun said on 17/Mar/07
Stadnyk may be "nice, humorous and humble" but he just is'nt 8'4". Not ONE photo shows him looking anywhere near this height next to someone of known height. The 6'4" doctor is almost upto his chin, even though Stadnyk is looking down, his head is'nt 15" or more long, I am sure of that. I feel he looks max 7'7", more likely 7'5" - 7'6" with 6'4" doctor. Just because 6'4" doctor is a little below his shoulder level - Stadnyk has little or no neck, and his shoulders are square, so they are hardly any lower than his chin level.
How could anyone think that he has 2 feet on the doc????
Cheers,
Arjun
LV said on 16/Mar/07
Here are the pictures of 7'4" Rik Smits and with 6'0" and 6'4" pro athletes (
Click Here). Stadnyk doesn't look much taller, if at all.
LV said on 16/Mar/07
Wrong Neil. Even if that was a 7'6" doorway he isn't close to 8'4". Unfortunately, it's only a 7ft doorway based on the height on the Urkanian president, who we think is about 5'10". Again that's the Ukranian president not the 6'4" doctor from the TLC documentary. As soon as I get time, I'm going to post pictures of a 7'4" man and you'll see Stadnyk is about that size.
Neil said on 16/Mar/07
arjun the door in the hospital is 7'6 you can tell that by the doctors standing in the doorway, either that or the doctors are a shade over 5'.
Richard said on 16/Mar/07
kshutchins - You said:
"Stadnyk is a very nice, humorous and humble man."
BUT, he also talks absolute CRAP my friend: his real height is approx 7'4 - go on to Wadlow thread ...we have been analyzing photos for months. The only photos we can take seriously are the ones which feature bricks and mortar and wall tiles and Yuschenko. my brilliant scientific analysis has exposed Stadnyk for what he truly is: A short ass bull s***ter. Do not be fooled by his giant hands and feet which are actually bigger than Shun's who is 7'8.95. andre the giant peaked at about 6'11 and he had truly enormous hands....
LV said on 15/Mar/07
kshutchins- I realize he's very private and doesn't want recognition for his height, but doesn't it seem a little suspicious that he doesn't want measured on camera or by Guinness? TLC went all the way to Europe to film an 8'4" giant and regardless of what he measured him at, I think he was getting listed as 8'4". What else were their options? If he was really only 7'6" or so, that's not that big of a deal since there are quite a few people in the states that tall. They weren't going to scrap production after going all the way to Europe, so the option is to stick with him being the tallest man in the world. Please look at a picture of
Robert Wadlow and then trying telling me he's anywhere near 8'4". It's obvious. And "looking nine feet tall" isn't conclusive evidence. Many people well over 7' "look" alot taller and bill themselves alot taller than they really are. He is a great guy and his story was very sad, but that doesn't make him 8'4". I'll try to post a picture tomorrow of a 7'4" guy and a 6'3" guy and then I'll post a picture of Stadnyk next to the 6'4" doctor. At that point, it will be clear he's under 7'9".
kshutchins said on 15/Mar/07
BTW, LV, Stadnyk is a very private person. It took a great deal of persuading to get him to participate in the tv show. They wanted to measure him on camera but he declined. He doesn't want to have his height verified for the Guinness book because he feels that he doesn't deserve any sort of special recognition because of something he had no control over. According to first hand reports from my son and his wife, Stadnyk is a very nice, humorous and humble man. AND he happens to be 8 ft 4 inches tall by their personal measurement.
kshutchins said on 15/Mar/07
LV- You can choose not to believe that Stadnyk is 8 ft 4 inches tall, but you can't get much better than a first person account unless you measure him yourself. My son was there with his wife. He says, "When you're standing there looking at him laying on two beds placed end to end because he can't fit on one, he sure as hell LOOKS NINE feet tall."
Arjun said on 15/Mar/07
LV you're right, that door in the picture with President Yushchenko looks no more than low 7 foot at the most. Even if it's say 7'2" - 7'3", Stadnyk only looks 5" or so taller than the door as it's upto the top of his ear. (in shoes , on top of that) And there is NO WAY his head is 18 inches long, more like 11" as it ain't much bigger than Yuschenko's. He's around 7'6" or so, nothing more. No way in hell is that an 8 foot doorway.
Arjun
Arjun said on 15/Mar/07
Viper, Sun does really look 7'8.75" next to Muresan who was supposedly measured at 7'7" 1/3" by the NBA. The difference does really look about 1.5" in the new pic with the camera higher. It looked like barely a 1/2" in the old one because the camera was much lower, therefore foreshortening the difference. I now do think that Ming Ming could very well be 7'8.75", and is no shorter than 7'8" at the very least, because I can't see Muresan as being much under 7'7". Muresan always looked around 7'7" during his basketball career.
Cheers,
Arjun
asfasf said on 15/Mar/07
i'd say muresan 7'7' and ming 7'9' , 1 inch is not right, sun is clearly taller than georghe, 7'8 3/4 is accurate which put him at 7'9'
Neil said on 14/Mar/07
You have got it all wrong LV, I mean the clip from Discovery channel the programme was called "My shocking story".
Viper said on 14/Mar/07
Arjun, you do not beleive in Ming's supposedly measured 7-8.75?
LV said on 14/Mar/07
Wrong, that's actually the Ukranian president (he looks about 5'10" or 5'11"). That doctor in the show was from England. I doubt he'd have been in his mom's hospital room years before that show was ever taped. Do you believe he's standing next to an 8ft door or a 7ft door? If its an 8ft door than the Ukranian president, like someone mentioned earlier, would have to be near 7ft. Compare the Ukranian president's height with Wessel's height, its very similar. Please explain your logic so we all can understand. Do you think Stadnyk's head is 18" long? It would have to be for him to be 8'4".
Neil said on 14/Mar/07
Sorry LV we must be mixed up its definitely the same 6'4 doctor you are thinking of another clip.
Arjun said on 14/Mar/07
Sun Ming Ming truly looks just about 1.5" taller than Muresan. He is one of the few giants who does not deserve the downgrading and underestimating that he got.
Very likely around 7'8" and change.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 14/Mar/07
Yeah LV, Muresan has a longer neck too as well as a bigger head. Still, in the pic taken from a better angle, the difference does look like 1.5" .
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 14/Mar/07
Ok wolverinejoe, that does look like a legit 1.5 inch difference, not barely any difference as it looked in the first. I agree now. Sun is definitely atleast 7'8", possibly some decent change.
Cheers,
Arjun
LV said on 14/Mar/07
Shoulder level has to be ruled out for Ming Ming. His shoulders are clearly much higher, but because his head is so tiny, he's just got 1.5" on Muresan. If he had a head as big as Muresan, he'd be 7'11".
wolverinejoe80 said on 13/Mar/07
Click Here
sun ming ming and muresan
this is the 2nd pic. i think sun has about 1.5 inches. there aren't much height difference in 1st pic because of the camera angle. sun's shoulder level was at least 2 inch above muresan but the height looked about the same. so i chose this one which is more accurate because sun is taller in both shoulder and head level.
sun is definitely 7ft 8+ to me.
LV said on 13/Mar/07
Sorry, Neil, but he's not 8'4". The picture of him in the hospital with his mother makes it clear. He is standing next to a 7ft doorway and he's 5" or 6" inches above it. There is no way that is an 8ft doorway. Plus the guy in that picture IS NOT the same 6'4" in doctor from his TV special. That doctor is a regular-sized guy. The only pictures where he looks 8ft+ are with his mom (who looks about 5') and their tiny house. Next to a legit 6'4" doctor, he looks mid-7ft.
Neil said on 13/Mar/07
I dont know why people are still saying that Stadnik is 7'5, he is definitely taller than that. In the clip where he is in the hospital he goes under the doorway and his shoulder was atleast 2' taller than the doorway. When the 6'4 doctor went through you could see a good 2' from the top of his head to the top of the doorway meaning that stadniks shoulder height must be atleast 6'8 so tell me how he can be 7'5?
Arjun said on 13/Mar/07
Sun Ming Ming has said "I'm 7 foot 8"
once on Jimmy Kimmel, and had no objection when Kimmel told him that Xi Shun was "the only man in the world taller than him" (though we know of a certain Zhang .... LOL). He looks more 7'8" than 7'9" next to Muresan, he has very little height on him,
that's just my opinion..... it does'nt really matter though as he is very close to
his billed height, 7'8" is still freakishly tall
anyway , it would still make him the world's tallest professional basketball player (no comments on Kosen who looks handicapped .... )
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 13/Mar/07
yeah wolverinejoe, look at the difference in their shoulders!! Sun's shoulders sit way higher than Muresan's, but he is just barely taller as Muresan's head and neck are much bigger.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 13/Mar/07
Anyone who has seen enough pictures of Stadnyk and has half a brain will realise that he is nowhere close to 8'4". Why do some still think that he is that height?
Arjun
Arjun said on 13/Mar/07
Maybe Muresan has bigger hair, that might be giving him a bit of extra height. If not, I
don't see a full inch , let alone 1.5 inches. Still , I would give him around 7'8". But I don't think he is as tall as, let alone taller than Xi Shun. Shun would have him by a solid inch, I think. No way can he be a full 7'9", would'nt he have got the tallest man in the world then since Xi Shun himself is just 1/20th of an inch shy of 7'9"?????
As for Stadnyk, I am almost sure that he is no more than 7'6" barefoot.
Cheers,
Arjun
wolverinejoe80 said on 12/Mar/07
if sun ming ming's head is as big as muresan's, he could easily be 8ft!
wolverinejoe80 said on 12/Mar/07
arjun, i clearly see 1 1/2 inch difference between sun and muresan.
and sun got to be top 5 tallest in the world now.
Viper said on 12/Mar/07
LV, I agree. They showed a Wadlow clip during Stadnyk's show and Wadlow just looked like a freak physically compared to Stadnyk.
LV said on 12/Mar/07
kshutchins- I would love for Stadnyk to be 8'4". He could use the recognition and exposure to get out and see the world. Right now he thinks his height is a punishment from God. If he comes to the states, he'd be treated like one. He'd have a job in a heartbeat doing promotions, commercials, movies, etc. Unfortunately, I cannot see him being 8'4". I have still photos on my cellphone from that program clearly showing that he is not 2 feet taller than the 6'4" doctor that visited him. I guess his height to be anywhere from 7'7" to MAYBE 7'9". Keep in mind, when this show was last on, it was played right after watching 7'8.75" Sun Ming Ming on TLC. Stadnyk didn't appear as tall as Sun Ming Ming. To imagine how tall 8'4" is, take a picture of
Robert Wadlow (8'11") and subtract 7 inches. There is no way Stadnyk is that tall.
LV said on 12/Mar/07
Arjun, I think Muresan is a legit 7'7.3" barefoot and I can see about 1 1/2" difference. I know it isn't easy to see from that distance, but if you look closely there is a brick wall behind them. Muresan comes up to the top of one block and Ming goes up to the next block. Plus Ming has very short hair and Mursan's hair is longer. Take some of Muresan's hair out of the equation and the height difference is more obvious. I don't know why they'd make up the fact that Ming is 7'8.75"...if they were going to do that they have called him exactly 7'9", but they don't, they call him 7'8.75" and they round it up in print.
kshutchins said on 12/Mar/07
My daughter-in-law was the assistant producer on the Discovery Channel show about Stadnyk (she appears in it as a translator). She was present when he was measured at 257 centimeters. She says that he is so big and heavy that his skeleton "settles" and by the end of the day he is shorter than in the morning by a few inches.
Arjun said on 12/Mar/07
No Viper652, Sun Ming Ming is'nt quite the tallest man in the world, though I think he would make the top ten. It is quite likely that for most of those who know him, he'll probably be the tallest person they'll ever see.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 12/Mar/07
Ahhaa, beyond 1000! Excellent that Sun Ming Ming is finally standing next to someone his size!!!! Yes he is just barely taller than Muresan, I would say about 1 - 1.5 cm in both photos. Just does'nt look like a full inch to me. So IF Muresan is a full 7'7 1/3" as you say, Ming Ming is about 7'8", being 1/2" or 2/3" (like anyone can tell 1/2" from 2/3" LOL)taller. Unless of course Muresan was wearing the dreaded "*****" that day.
(I don't think anyone on this site will have any doubts as to what those asterisks stand for)
Highman, I think this should clear up most of the doubts about Sun Ming Ming's height. He is indeed around 7'8" assuming Muresan to be a shade over 7'7". Even if Muresan was boosted an inch or so by the NBA and is really only 7'6" and change, (some claim that Manute Bol was boosted a couple cm or so) Sun cannot be under 7'7". These pics prove that he cannot be under 7'7", nor can he be over 7'8.75" to those who think he has grown. My guess: 7'7 1/2" to 7'8" barefoot. Still TALL though, but I think Xi Shun will still have an edge over him.
Cheers,
Arjun
Arjun said on 12/Mar/07
ImForStadnyk, you really don't know what 2 feet looks like, do you? I saw the video of him next to 6'4" doctor. To me, it does'nt look like more than 15 inch difference, and factoring in doctor being possibly a little under 6'4", Stadnyk's chunky shoes etc. He comes roughly to the bottom of his neck, a little under shoulder, how the hell can that be two feet????? Stadnyk's head is no more than 11 inches at the VERY most, by your logic his head alone is 18 inches or so HAHAHAHA. And he has a short neck and is square shouldered too, so his shoulder top is almost level with the bottom of his chin. So top of head to tip of shoulder is nothing much over 12 inches for him. Learn to use a ruler and calculator before saying "two feet". You can't just estimate his head and neck to be a ridiculous 18+ inches, you have to compare it to others.
The guy is 7'5" - 7'6" . No way more than that. I seriously doubt he's even as tall as Muresan.
Cheers,
Arjun
beyond 1000 said on 11/Mar/07
Stadnik's mother cannot be taller than 5'1". I still have the guy at maximum 7'7".
beyond 1000 said on 11/Mar/07
Check out sun's new website.....sevenfootnine.com In the random shots, Sun is standing next to Muresan and no doubt he is clearly taller. He is every bit 7'9". Bear in mind that according to the NBA, Muresan is 7'7.33, officialy one third of an inch taller than the 7'7.0 Manute Bol.
ImForStadnyk said on 6/Mar/07
Ukrainian pres is not 7'0. That's a ridiculous comment. If you think the Prez is say 6'2, Stadnyk looks 2 feet taller, which would make him what? 8'2. Still taller than Ming. Now we can't know for sure, so all we can do by photos is imagine a ruler from the top of one person's head to the top of Stadnyk's. And Stadnyk has a BIG head.
shaq said on 28/Feb/07
stadnki's mother 5'6=168cm? lol she is 4.11 or 5 feet max, stadnik is 7'6 or 7'7'but no more, and is quite clear buy photos: he is tall as muresan or a bit less
milo said on 27/Feb/07
sun is tall he should be drafted in the nba by the rockets im 8'8
mike said on 24/Feb/07
what about this guy sultan kosen i,ve heard 7'10" for this guy.a whole 11/4 inch taller.than ming.
Viper said on 23/Feb/07
Stadnik looks roughly the same height as Ming.
LV said on 22/Feb/07
No way he is 8'4". If you watch his special on TLC, he is NOT 2 feet taller than the 6'4" doctor that visited his house. It's hard to say how tall he is, but again I'd say anywhere from 7'7" to 7'9", possibly 7'10".
mike said on 22/Feb/07
stadniks mother looks around 5,6" he looks another 2 1/2 feet taller so around 8 foot ,that 8,4" measurement coud be right i figured each of those bricks to be 3 inches except for the double one .
mike said on 22/Feb/07
that lady standing on that little table measuring stadnik is probably around the 7 foot mark.
Neil said on 20/Feb/07
Im sure Stadnyk is definitely more than 7'6. If you watch him duck under doorways his shoulder height is higher than the doorway, so his shoulder height must be about 6'8 to the top of his shoulder, so from the top of his shoulder to the top of his head would be about another 14' making him about 7'10.
Viper652 said on 20/Feb/07
So Sun Ming Ming is the tallest man in the world?
James said on 20/Feb/07
sun ming ming is 7'8.75'' i met him in venice when they were taping him for his documentary, im about 6'8'' and the top of my head was a good 12'' below his head.......i think that Stadynk isnt 8'4'' at all, i agree with most people saying hes no bigger then 7'6''.....and the worlds tallest man ever was almost 9 feet tall, my great grand parents lived in alton where robert lived and my great grandfather was 6'6'' and was a dwarf compared to robert.
Viper said on 19/Feb/07
Arjun, I saw those video pieces of Stadnyk and Sun Ming Ming last night back to back. To me it seemed like Stadnyk appeared the same height as Ming or even shorter?
Anonymous said on 19/Feb/07
last night on tlc i saw the same program anatomy of a giant repeatedly they kept saying that he was the tallest man in the world 8,4". I,m somewhat curious about that cause i noticed him ducking through the doorways which to my knowledge most are 7 foot it did,nt appear to be any different than sun ming ming walking through the doorways. alot of times he looked about mings height.
Arjun said on 19/Feb/07
Right. Stadnyk is 8'4". What a great revelation!!! Dude , MEASURE UP the pics before you say Stadnyk is "every bit 2 feet taller" than "6'4" doctor". If Stadnyk is 8'4", the President of Ukraine is nearly 7'0". Stadnyk is'nt any taller than Gheorghe Muresan.
Cheers,
Arjun
ImForStadnyk said on 14/Feb/07
I watched the BBC special on Stadnyk. The doctor that came to visit him is 6'4" and shown standing next to each other, Stadnyk is every bit 2 feet taller. Understand that Stadnyk, due to acromegaly, is hunched slightly, so I believe he is every bit 8'4". Besides, wouldn't the Ukraine chapter of the Guiness Book's measurement be valid? Maybe not for the official book, but he was measured.
Neil said on 8/Feb/07
Yes I totally agree with you beyond.Im sure he will be measured sooner or later.
beyond 1000 said on 7/Feb/07
Neil, the absolute truth on Stadnik can come out only if he is measured be some credible source.
Neil said on 6/Feb/07
I think Stadnik is certainly taller than 7'4 as someone suggested. I have seen quite a few clips of him dipping under doorways. and his shoulder height was taller than the doorways. And the picture of him in the hospital the doorways are not 7' as someone suggested they are 7'6, you can tell that by the doctors standing in the doorway. Im sure he is in between 7'10 and 8'.
kanov said on 5/Feb/07
That picture of Syadnyk from anonyn actually suggests that he's more than two feet taller than the woman. 6 foot 7 woman? the chair itself looks like its almost 2 feet in height.
Tall&Handsome said on 3/Feb/07
"that fat Shaq"
No, Shaq is pretty diesel actually.
Back on topic: On Jimmy Kimmel, he claimed 7'8". And this was fairly recent.
Taz said on 2/Feb/07
It's say's he is 7'9, he said it himself..isn't Golith fictional charcather
The tallest man in the world was 8ft, his name was Robert something..he died a longtime ago...But unlike Yao Ming he has weight on him
6'3 Rebounder said on 2/Feb/07
Have Yao and Ming already faced eachother?If they havent,that woould be a Giant's face off.It would aslo be grat if that English Dude(The tallest man in the world) Could Play,But I think he Has a problem or somethin and can't play. Can anyone give me a update about that?
Goliath said on 31/Jan/07
Naw... He's 8 feet tall. lol. Weight about 375 lbs... So Shaq whould still outweigh him by 2 or 3 lbs lbs (that fat Shaq). Regardless he's to slow for the NBA. Hey whatever happened to that giant North Korean player?
Dave said on 23/Jan/07
Getting billed at 7'10 would attract more media than anything he can actually do on the court and to get billed at 7'10 he has to be at least 7'9 or the media would kill that bill and say thats the biggest con ever or something like that, but I do think that now Sun is about 7'9 and even thats a collosal height by any standard, I actually think he is as much taller than Yao Ming as Yao is taller than Shaq but I can't be certain unless we see a measure up.
asfasf said on 19/Jan/07
if sun going to the nba would be listed at 7'10 imho
Arjun said on 12/Jan/07
Masato, when were Yao Ming and Sun Ming Ming on the Kimmel show at the same time? Also remember than Yao could be as "short" as 7'5", so that would make Sun Ming Ming less than 7'9".
Cheers,
Arjun
Viper said on 10/Jan/07
I dont doubt the 7-9 by much, but he just doesnt look it.
Masato said on 9/Jan/07
Sun Ming Ming was born in 1983...making him 23 years old. After the brain tumor surgery he got, he probably has stop growing. But i reckon he is a legit 7'9'' by now. He looked 2 to 3 inches taller than yao ming when they were on the Jimmy Kimmel Show.
Viper said on 8/Jan/07
Some guy on a basketball board said Kenny George wears lifts to look 7-9, lol.
Dave said on 7/Jan/07
Kenny George does seem to have an inch and a bit on yao, maybe he is 7'7 but if he's listed as 7'6 then yao can only be no more than 7'5.
I think that Sun is actually now 7'9 barefoot and that would mean he should replace Xi Shun as the tallest man officially in the world, i would still like to see Sun and yao have a measure up.
Anonymous said on 15/Dec/06
Seems like someone would just take Xi Shun to the Ukraine and let them meet face to face, so to speak.
Viper said on 14/Dec/06
He looks closer to 7-6 then 7-9.
beyond 1000 said on 13/Dec/06
Arjun: Just to comment on your post. It's true what you say. In one photo he looks a few inches taller than Greener and on the swings with the girl both look about the same. I BELIEVE I saw a larger version of that swing set photo and it looks clear that the ground that Bisad is standing on is lower than the ground Greener is on. The ground where the swing set is on slopes downward to Bisad. Just an observation. At this point I do believe that Bisad is 7'9. He needs to be remeasured for accuracy. The article on him states he is growing about an inch per year. By now he should definitely be Shun's height.
On the issue with Sun Ming Ming, Dodge City Legend has him listed at 7'9 tall. He came into the country at a reported height of 7'8.75 but that was a clear seven months or so before he had his operation. I would tend to believe that perhaps he could have grown 1/4 inch in that time span. It all depends how accurate that 7'8.75 really was. Would anybody feel that Dodge City coaches would have had him measured in order to consider him 7'9?
kg said on 3/Nov/06
sun ming ming is definately taller than 7-8 barefoot, hes actually 7-9 barefoot, and in the nba, with today's exeggeration trend, he can be listed as 7-10 or 7-11 (7-10 is most honest and reasonable, but as you know vast majority of players in the nba are listed at least 2 inches beyond their actual height)
Viper652 said on 2/Nov/06
Honestly, Ming doesnt look 7-9. Maybe its his proportions throwing me off?
Arjun said on 2/Nov/06
Beyond 1000: Bisad's height is hard to pin down. In one photo he does look almost 3 inches taller than Chris (the one in which they are shaking hands on the pavement) but in the other one in which they are on the swings on either side of the kid, they look the same height. Which one to believe?
Cheers,
Arjun
beyond 1000 said on 1/Nov/06
I have videotaped Muresan at 7'7 jumping to stuff the ball. I frame by framed and freeze framed the sequence and Muresan clearly jumps higher than Sun in order to dunk the ball. Sun is every bit 7'9.
On a recent TLC show about tall people, Greener was mentioned at 7'6.75. Based on the photos with Bisad, I believe that Bisad is 7'9. Bisad needs to be re-measured and officially proclaimed as the U.K.'s tallest man. The actual accurate height will be revealed on that measurement.
As for Stadnik...about 7'7 like most of you claim.
Viper652 said on 1/Nov/06
Jimmy Kimmel isnt 6-0 :)
Jim said on 31/Oct/06
Saw this boy on Jimmy Kimmel, he is everybit of 7 ft 8 and then some. He had what seemed to be 2 feet on the 6 ft Jimmy Kimmel.
Mohamed Haji-yusuf said on 16/Oct/06
Hey Sun Ming Ming u are the best tall guy and good basketball Player I'm BAsketball Player to Sun u are better than Yao and shaq u are the real Gaint Please play for the Lakers u and Kobe will be better than Shaq and Dwayne Wade
tracy said on 3/Sep/06
sun ming ming is not the tallest man in the world. there are lots of people his height that live in africa.Also the tallest man in the world now is from ukraine. 8'4ft. My family is the tallest family round are area even in our city. MY dad is 6'11 and my mum is 6'0. my brother 14 and he is already 6'9. i am 12 and i am 6'1.
dave said on 1/Aug/06
Isn't this suppose to be a Sun Ming Ming board?
All these lies about Bisad and Stadnyk are getting boring now, they're both in the 7'7 range and I think Sun Ming Ming is taller than both of them.
Now this bloke is getting fitter, faster and stronger every day. If he can be as fit as Yao in the next 2 years and reach 400lb in lean mass then this 7'9 beast could just take Yao's limelight in the near future.
Bendy said on 21/Jun/06
Another off topic post, This time about Hussain Bisad, When he came to England in 2002, he claimed he was 7'9" and still growing.
Click Here
In that article he does seem to tower over 7'6.25" Chris greener, However Chris is not standing straight, Also Hussain is trying his best to stand totally erect also stretching his neck a fair bit too, Ground also doesnt look level. A couple of months after he came to Britain, He was so sure he was the tallest man guiness took their measurements and it in fact turned out he was 7'6.5" He is supposedly thought to have lost 2.5inches due to media work (ie moving around alot) Anywho I found an article from this year sometime regarding Bisad, and he is now claiming to be 8'1"
Click Here
What with Bisad and Stadnyk exagerating their heights (in my opinion), Makes them like Al Tomaini a circus giant, who claimed he was 8'4.5" when guiness records show him at 7'4"
Click Here
Bendy said on 20/Jun/06
Yes mask you are correct looking over my additions you are correct my mistake, I'd could prob buy 232cm at a stretch looking at that evidence. He does seem to tower over his mother somewhat, However shes probably fairly short say 4'9"-5'0". In some recent pictures he does look shorter than he did in 2004, But that might be camera trickery. Still very tall though, I see his height anywhere between 7'4"-7'7.5", Although he may well be up to about 7'10". Im just wondering how much longer his body hold out, he doesnt look in the very best of health...
mask said on 20/Jun/06
Bendy you did a good job to me but let me say you something if I can:
28.5 x 6.5 = 185.25 and if you look carefully to tha wall there is a double brick you didn't add so let's do this addition: 28 bricks x 7 cm = 196 cm + 7 cm extra brick = 203 cm then 27 spaces between 28 bricks x 2 cm cement = 54 cm + 203 cm = 257 cm - shoes = about 254 cm while according to you: 28.5 bricks x 6.5 cm = 185.25 + 6.5 cm extra brick = 191.75 cm then 28 spaces between 28.5 bricks x 1.5 cm cement = 42.75 cm + 191.75 cm = 234.5 cm - shoes = about 231.5
so let's say he was somewhere between 230 and 255 cm in 2004 correct me if I'm wrong
Bendy said on 18/Jun/06
Click HereSorry another Stadnyk post...
In that pic we can see he is roughly 28.5 house bricks high, A standard house brick anywhere is about 6.5cm, 28.5 x 6.5 = 182.5, in addition to that add 1.5cm of cement between each brick = 28.5 x 1.5 = 42.75, add those two together and you get 228.25cm = 7'6" allowing a couple of inches eitherway (noting he is wearing shoes being measured). I know these are very crude measurements but i think its not far off the truth, hes prob 7'5 or so barefoot (give or take a bit)
Big Show said on 13/Jun/06
Stadnik is a tall fellow, no doubt about that, but nowhere near 8 feet 4.
Click Here
This is how a legit 8'4 person looks like an average male person (about 5'8 at that time). You can see that Leonid is nowhere near this height in any of his pics. Mostly he's about 1.5 - 2 heads taller than average male persons (5'10 at this time).
Anonymouse said on 11/May/06
That stadnyk photo that Bendy shows I think he is actually leaning back against the door frame. If that man he is shaking hands with is 6'0" (lets say for my example) then his height (if he stands up straight away from leaning on the wall) is probably about 7'6" MAX. He does look very young in that photo though, is that an older one, because he is still growing (supposedly).
big_guy said on 8/May/06
bendy is right . stadnyk isn't 8'4" even if he claims to be.
that is why he refused to be mesured by the guiness book of records.
he knows that he is not this height. I wonder why people think he is this height ? he is 7'4" the photo that bendy shows is an evidence : he is about 4" taller than a 7" door. the tallest man living is bao xishun: he is 7'9"
bigmoeegypt said on 27/Apr/06
i think that sun ming's height is less than it is billed for ,i have a picture of him standing next to "bme" and he didnt look big at all. the skinny build of sun ming makes him seem taller than he really is
Bendy said on 27/Apr/06
Regarding Stadnyk At 8'4"
Click HereNow unless the man in the pic is over 6'6" I Dont See Him Being More Than 7'4" Becuase
Click HereIn That Pic Is A Life Sized Model Of
Robert Wadlow (8'11"& 1/10) Also In That Pic Is UK's Tallest Man Chris Greener Who Is 7'6", Compare Those Two Pics And We Can Tell Stadnyk Isnt The 8'4" He Claims To Be, Hes Tall But Claiming The Tallest Man, I Do Doubt It, I Doubt Hes Taller Than Guinesses Xi Shun. My Two Cents...
Lone said on 20/Apr/06
Click Herehere's a vid of sun ming ming dunking without jumping!
sing said on 19/Apr/06
well she's standing on a chair so it's hard to tell...but we can safely assume he's under 8 feet because he refuses to be measured by Guinness, would be nice to see him stand next to some tall guy, like Yao Ming.
anoyn said on 18/Apr/06
Stadnik does not look 8'4".
Check out these 2 pictures:
-This is a 7'7" man standing next to a 5'9" man.
Click Here-Any pictures I've seen of 7'6" Yao Ming with 5'10" Colin Pine show a similar difference.
-This is supposedly 8'4" Stadnik standing next to a woman.
Click HereUnless this woman is around 6'7" which I doubt, there is no way he is that tall.
TheMan said on 4/Jan/06
Interesting well Anne bates who was like 7,10 or something had a husband who was like 7,8 or something daft. And their baby was massive way longer than a normal child it was also the heaviest baby ever born or soemthing. Now i think had it survived which it probably would of done today then who knows how giant that child would of been possibly well over 8 feet without even having gigantism. I do wonder what the results of two over 7 footers having children would be quite interesting really. And this Leonid Stadnyk ive read about him on many ocations youve got to wonder is he actually as tall as 7,9 or whatever the records looking at him even he's shoes seem ridiclously big to add to the effect he could be 8,4 but he could also be only about 7,5 or something. My guess is maybe he's waiting to see if he goes over 8,11 if he's still growing or maybe he's actually not as tall as he says he is which is also very possible. Me presonally would love to see someone over 9 foot that would be amazing.
aoeuidhtns said on 17/Aug/05
I'm fairly sure statistics would tell us there is someone taller than 8 feet, unless humans are not genetically capable of such heights naturally. It's really just a Gaussian distribution, so we combine information about the number of people alive in the world (over 6 billion) and the number of known 8-footers in history (at least 3). Since we estimate 15, call it 18, billion people alive during the total amount of years we've been measuring heights accurately enough to ensure those 8-footers, you get that the chances of there being a an 8-footer alive today is roughly 90 percent. And this is based on the guess that there were only 3 known 8-footers around, so I think the real probability is even higher. Of course, Xi Shun guy is pretty close to the 8 feet mark, so it's possible, with a less than 10 percent chance, that he is really the world's tallest person. This is not meant to be an attack on Sing, but rather a simple statistical measure of the probability of his claims. I do agree with him that Xi Shun was 7' 9'' or taller in youth, possibly even 7' 9.5'', based on what I've read about the average height vs. age curve.
Sing said on 16/Aug/05
http://www.local6.com/news/4839875/detail.html
Massimo, according to the article, Xi Shun was interested in marriage at one point but the girls were too afraid of him. Lol. So now he's 50 something and single. What a waste of height! Maybe Margo still wants this guy, but I think she will prefer Yao Ming instead. Lol.
This Xi Shun guy is 7-8.95 at 50 something years old, so when he was younger, he was probably over 7-9.
Massimo said on 16/Aug/05
I guess if Xi Shun has 10 sons with Margo Dydek...Maybe one of them is gonna be a healthy 8 footer!
Sing said on 16/Aug/05
If Yao Ming married Malgozata Dydek (7-2 center from Poland in WNBA), then yes their kids will definitely have a shot at being 8 feet tall naturally. But Yao's girlfriend, Ye Li (who plays for Chinese national team) is only 6-4, so it might be a little difficult. Lol.
CoolJ said on 12/Aug/05
Sing, keep on believing just what is documented and stay in your little box. Just because Guinness claims that someone is OFFICIALLY the tallest person, noone can prove that with 100% certainty as not all 6 billion people in the World are measured.
Just look at eurobasket's list.. They got two guys on their listed at over 7'10. Go ask Guinness if they checked that out, they cant even get Leonid to let them measure him. He is enormous.
Man you need to grow up.
CoolJ said on 12/Aug/05
My mistake. No need to resort to insults. I'm not Asian so all their names look different when they use variations like that. You apparently know them a lot better than I.
Don't be ignorant.
I do believe Leonid is taller, but he won't be measured for some reason.
Sing said on 12/Aug/05
CoolJ, you are so dumb, it's the same guy!! His entire name is Bao Xishunto, but Guinness Book shortened it as Xi Shun. Get it??? Duhhhh!!!!
Guinness Book has no need to measure every person in the world, but how many 7-8+ people are there in the world??? What's so unbelievable about you, CoolJ, is that you are doubting Guinness Book based on pure imaginatinon like: well there must a 8 foot guy out there. Going by your logic, none of the records will make sense! The world's heaviest man, CoolJ - well there must be a guy heavier than that! The world's shortest man - CoolJ, well there must be a guy smaller than him somewhere out there which Guinness never measured. You see how your logic makes absolutely no sense??
CoolJ, you probably will take the title for the world's dumbest guy though.
Jason said on 12/Aug/05
Guniness actually did comment on Leonid Stadnik before they updated the tallest living man section recently. They said as Lenoid claims to be the world's tallest man but refuses to be measured, they can only conclude from previous experience that he isn't.
Sing said on 11/Aug/05
Who cares what he claims??? CoolJ can say he's the world's tallest man, but refuses to be measured. Does that mean it's true???
It's really unbelievable that you are doubting Guinness Book of World Records based on stuff you read on the internet (as if the Guinness people don't surf the net???). I mean, what's your problem???
TheGoodNamesAreTaken said on 11/Aug/05
Does Stadnik claim himself to be the tallest man in the world?
CoolJ said on 10/Aug/05
Sing, I doubt the heights are false.. you can find them on eurobasket.com as well on their tallest players alive list.
There are two players at 240cm or over.
Sing said on 9/Aug/05
According to Guinness, Xi Shun reached his height naturally and has no acromegaly (by the way, sami, learn to spell first before you post).
sami said on 9/Aug/05
i wonder how much potencial he has....although he is 7'9"....is he a pituritiy giant(acremenologia)???????????????
Massimo said on 9/Aug/05
And look at this:
http://www.ozgurpolitika.org/2002/06/17/DEVA%20ADAM.jpg
I know that we don't have a clue how tall the other guy is but...My God!
Massimo said on 9/Aug/05
And what about Sultan Kosen ? He doesn't look that short in this picture!
http://www.ataturquie.asso.fr/Images/extra03actusultan.jpg
Sing said on 8/Aug/05
Ok, Leonid looks huge, the Uppal guy, whoever he is, looks huge, and Xi Shun, the official tallest living human being on the planet, doesn't look huge??? Come on, Shaq looks monstrous compared to normal human beings but he's nowhere near Xi Shun's height. The reason I think you are stupid, Massimo, is that you are saying: Look! The guy looks huge! He must be 7-9 or 8-4, how stupid is that??? You have 0, I mean ZERO, solid proof of his height. Until officially recognized by the Guinness Book, it's all tall tales, guestimates, and bs. Obviously the Ukrainian branch's measurements aren't official or else he would be the tallest living human now don't you think???
Stop being stupid and recognize that Xi Shun, at 7-8.95, is the world's tallest living human, bar none.
Massimo said on 8/Aug/05
Ah guys, I almost forgot, what about Sultan Kosen ! He is listed everywhere as 2.42 and he is still growing (his full height will be 2.48/2.49). Is this b.s. ?
Massimo said on 8/Aug/05
In Italia doors are about 6'11" 1/2, I don't know in USA.
Massimo said on 8/Aug/05
Sing, I think he is not so proud of his height and doesn't want to be measured!
He says he hates being that tall !
By looking to his pictures, he is about 20-25 cm taller than a door's frame. Normally the doors are about 6'11" 1/2. He is obviously way over 7' feet, nobody knows his exact height.
Anonymous said on 5/Aug/05
I can only quote Jason's wonderful point here:
"Leonid Stadnik refuses to be measured (draw your own conclusion as to why ...) so cannot be accurately stated as being the world's tallest man."
If Leonid Stadnik can be considered the tallest man alive, then I'm also the fastest running human, the fastest swimmer, the highest jumper, an undefeatable tennis player, and an invinsible martial artist. I just don't feel like showing these to the world, but really I am the greatest in all these categories. You just have to believe me.
Ball-A-Hallic said on 4/Aug/05
Leonid Stadnik is the world's tallest man but Xi Shun is the World's tallest healty man alive. Look it up on GOOGLE.
sami said on 4/Aug/05
i wonder why no nba group took sun ming ming at the draft... with that extremly height i would have taken him and enjoy from 7 '9" celebrity
Jason said on 4/Aug/05
Leonid Stadnik refuses to be measured (draw your own conclusion as to why ...) so cannot be accurately stated as being the world's tallest man.
sf said on 2/Aug/05
Like "nonone" said, the world's tallest living man is from the Ukraine - his name is Leonid Stadnik at 8'4"...
Z2 said on 2/Aug/05
Yes, the world's tallest living man is 7 ft 8.95(2m 36.1cm). His name is Xi Shun and he is living in Inner Mongolia.
Sing said on 2/Aug/05
NBA, are you illiterate? I said NEXT YEAR, Sun will PROBABLY be 7-10 since he's not done growing yet. Besides, the new tallest living man is ALSO Chinese, so what gives? Man, I am sorry but you are dumbbbb.
NBA said on 2/Aug/05
Sing-Sing - Why do you make the asian players look bigger and the American ones smaller??
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/
The worlds' tallest man is now 7'8.95"
noone said on 2/Aug/05
Actually there is one guy, Leonid Stadnik. He's already 8 feet 4
inches and still growing.
sami said on 2/Aug/05
sun ming ming is the tallest living man in the world at 7 ft 8.75 in =2.36 cm he just need to prove that to guiness
Sing said on 27/Jul/05
Apparently this guy is far from done growing so who knows how tall he will be. My guess is next year he will be 7-10 barefoot and get drafted by the NBA.
Ball-A-Hallic said on 26/Jul/05
I've heard rumors that he's now 7'10 3/4 inches tall but I dont b-leave them cause every site on Ming says he's 7'8 or 7'9