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6ft 7.36in (201.6cm)
6ft 7.36in (201.6cm)
Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Aug/21
@Pierre
Nothing new. Pointless reply. Just changing/modifying your prior positions as and when it suits you, aka: dual standards. Low camera height, view point angled up = advantage to taller subject. Period. That WAS your claim when, surprise, surprise, Fury was shown to be clearly taller than Wilder in the ring, both men equidistant from camera. At any rate, Magic is in fact closer to camera than Floyd, so the new twist in your tale is quashed from every angle anyway. LOL, you couldn't get your analysis more wrong even if you tried. Feel free to continue living in abject denial but all you're trying to sell are lemons and no one is buying.
@Pierre
Nothing new. Pointless reply. Just changing/modifying your prior positions as and when it suits you, aka: dual standards. Low camera height, view point angled up = advantage to taller subject. Period. That WAS your claim when, surprise, surprise, Fury was shown to be clearly taller than Wilder in the ring, both men equidistant from camera. At any rate, Magic is in fact closer to camera than Floyd, so the new twist in your tale is quashed from every angle anyway. LOL, you couldn't get your analysis more wrong even if you tried. Feel free to continue living in abject denial but all you're trying to sell are lemons and no one is buying.
Pierre said on 31/Jul/21
@Tall In The Saddle= Low angles favor the guy who stands the closest to the camera ,that is not the case here for Magic next to Floyd Mayweather.... Yeah I believe you can continue with your fruit stories...
@Tall In The Saddle= Low angles favor the guy who stands the closest to the camera ,that is not the case here for Magic next to Floyd Mayweather.... Yeah I believe you can continue with your fruit stories...
Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Jul/21
@Pierre
So low angles (even when they’re not actually in play) only make Tyson look taller not Magic (when an actual low angle is in play)?? Your reply basically stated that Magic is so much taller purely because you say so, flying in the face of facts and your own prior reasonings. Wow, do you logic check your comments before posting?.
Btw, I am very fond of my fruit analogies/metaphors. They are anchored in objective reality, not subjective reality that is framed to satisfy an end point conclusion underscored by extreme bias. Did someone say Bananas?
@Pierre
So low angles (even when they’re not actually in play) only make Tyson look taller not Magic (when an actual low angle is in play)?? Your reply basically stated that Magic is so much taller purely because you say so, flying in the face of facts and your own prior reasonings. Wow, do you logic check your comments before posting?.
Btw, I am very fond of my fruit analogies/metaphors. They are anchored in objective reality, not subjective reality that is framed to satisfy an end point conclusion underscored by extreme bias. Did someone say Bananas?
Gman42 said on 29/Jul/21
Seems to be the same height as 6'7 listed boxer George Fox. If you go to Fox's instagram, you can see Tyson and him both standing side by side and both are wearing boxing shoes.
Seems to be the same height as 6'7 listed boxer George Fox. If you go to Fox's instagram, you can see Tyson and him both standing side by side and both are wearing boxing shoes.
Pierre said on 28/Jul/21
@Tall In the Saddle = This is not the low angle of the camera that make Magic looking taller than Tyson....Your fruit stories can do nothing against this reality ...
@Tall In the Saddle = This is not the low angle of the camera that make Magic looking taller than Tyson....Your fruit stories can do nothing against this reality ...
Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Jul/21
I @Pierre
Really? Such a gimme. Merci beacoup.
Firstly, we’re back to Magic, again. And, another apples to oranges comparison, again. Dejavu.
Secondly and more importantly, it’s actually your own scientific theory that has come back to bite you on the derrière.
YOU say a low angle favours the taller man. Your call, no way out. The camera is very low and pointing up for the Magic photo, easily below even Floyd’s height. In the Fury photo the camera level is obviously a lot higher and clearly above Floyd’s height.
Keep fighting the good fight. :)
I @Pierre
Really? Such a gimme. Merci beacoup.
Firstly, we’re back to Magic, again. And, another apples to oranges comparison, again. Dejavu.
Secondly and more importantly, it’s actually your own scientific theory that has come back to bite you on the derrière.
YOU say a low angle favours the taller man. Your call, no way out. The camera is very low and pointing up for the Magic photo, easily below even Floyd’s height. In the Fury photo the camera level is obviously a lot higher and clearly above Floyd’s height.
Keep fighting the good fight. :)
ChaosControl said on 28/Jul/21
Pierre you said yourself he’s 6’7.5 what’s your excuse?
Pierre you said yourself he’s 6’7.5 what’s your excuse?
Pierre said on 27/Jul/21
Click Here Click Here Well some guys will explain again with great reinforcements of scientific theories that Tyson stands in the same poor posture as Magic here....(a bit like for Deontay's posture ...🙂).
Click Here Click Here Well some guys will explain again with great reinforcements of scientific theories that Tyson stands in the same poor posture as Magic here....(a bit like for Deontay's posture ...🙂).
ChaosControl said on 27/Jul/21
That's the reason why you believe Tyson is 6"7'...
No he believes Tyson is 6’7 because that’s more accurate than 6’6. I do recall you saying Tyson is 6’7.5
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
That's the reason why you believe Tyson is 6"7'...
No he believes Tyson is 6’7 because that’s more accurate than 6’6. I do recall you saying Tyson is 6’7.5
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
ChaosControl said on 27/Jul/21
That's the reason why you believe Tyson is 6"7'...
No he believes Tyson is 6’7 because that’s more accurate than 6’6
That's the reason why you believe Tyson is 6"7'...
No he believes Tyson is 6’7 because that’s more accurate than 6’6
Tall In The Saddle said on 26/Jul/21
@Pierre
You're caught in a trap (Wilder's) and you can't get out. After you pick yourself up from the floor after that little gem, let's proceed.
Re Fury Wilder ring face off. You're retreading excuses that have already been quashed.
The fact that you invoked multiple "trapdoor" excuses speaks for itself, those excuses being 1) Low angle favoring Fury 2) Fury closer to camera 3) Fury wearing better heeled boxing shoes 4) Wilder breaking his back in terms of posture. Talk about a shot gun approach, multiple shots in the dark hoping for a hit.
I mean, did I miss any others or is there anything else you want to pull out of thin air or from elsewhere? You were obviously predisposed to deny any counter vision, not matter how conclusive. LOL.
I say "trapdoor" excuses because you offer nothing more than a superficial, distorted observation and then disappear when it's soundly refuted and/or you are asked to actually rationalize it, only to see you move to another flawed claim and then it's rinse repeat. Never any meat to your argument. Eventually, you go the full circle and return to earlier claims that were never upheld or soundly refuted in the first place.
As Mickie stated, and it has been all said before, Wilder's traps are simply more developed and pronounced than Fury's. Even with that, the slope angle of Wilder's back is no different to that of Fury's. Who hunches whilst maintaining a straight neck? The answer is no one. A bowed neck will follow hunched shoulders.
Wilder's neck is straight. If you disagree, then explain how it is not straight or, at least, describe how it is any worse than the angle of Fury's neck. Posture notwithstanding, the back has a natural curved shape which has nothing to do with a curved spine or compromised posture. Their postures are acceptable and even if you disagree you can't suggest one is worse than the other just as Mickie clearly pointed out.
You need to bring more to the table than observations that are completely at odds with irrefutable vision. To punctuate the point, let's refresh on the Fury Wilder face off, credit to Mickie Click Here and the Ferrigno Schwarzenegger photo YOU OFFERED as being comparable in terms of camera height, angle and perspective Click Here
Haha. Funny man. Apples to Oranges but still an altogether fruity analogy.
@Pierre
You're caught in a trap (Wilder's) and you can't get out. After you pick yourself up from the floor after that little gem, let's proceed.
Re Fury Wilder ring face off. You're retreading excuses that have already been quashed.
The fact that you invoked multiple "trapdoor" excuses speaks for itself, those excuses being 1) Low angle favoring Fury 2) Fury closer to camera 3) Fury wearing better heeled boxing shoes 4) Wilder breaking his back in terms of posture. Talk about a shot gun approach, multiple shots in the dark hoping for a hit.
I mean, did I miss any others or is there anything else you want to pull out of thin air or from elsewhere? You were obviously predisposed to deny any counter vision, not matter how conclusive. LOL.
I say "trapdoor" excuses because you offer nothing more than a superficial, distorted observation and then disappear when it's soundly refuted and/or you are asked to actually rationalize it, only to see you move to another flawed claim and then it's rinse repeat. Never any meat to your argument. Eventually, you go the full circle and return to earlier claims that were never upheld or soundly refuted in the first place.
As Mickie stated, and it has been all said before, Wilder's traps are simply more developed and pronounced than Fury's. Even with that, the slope angle of Wilder's back is no different to that of Fury's. Who hunches whilst maintaining a straight neck? The answer is no one. A bowed neck will follow hunched shoulders.
Wilder's neck is straight. If you disagree, then explain how it is not straight or, at least, describe how it is any worse than the angle of Fury's neck. Posture notwithstanding, the back has a natural curved shape which has nothing to do with a curved spine or compromised posture. Their postures are acceptable and even if you disagree you can't suggest one is worse than the other just as Mickie clearly pointed out.
You need to bring more to the table than observations that are completely at odds with irrefutable vision. To punctuate the point, let's refresh on the Fury Wilder face off, credit to Mickie Click Here and the Ferrigno Schwarzenegger photo YOU OFFERED as being comparable in terms of camera height, angle and perspective Click Here
Haha. Funny man. Apples to Oranges but still an altogether fruity analogy.
Pierre said on 26/Jul/21
Mickie said on 25/Jul/21
Tyson is dropping much more height than Wilder in that last photo. Wilder isn't standing perfectly straight in those photos, sure, but he's not exactly standing any worse than Fury is in any of them either.
...That's the reason why you believe Tyson is 6"7'...
Mickie said on 25/Jul/21
Tyson is dropping much more height than Wilder in that last photo. Wilder isn't standing perfectly straight in those photos, sure, but he's not exactly standing any worse than Fury is in any of them either.
...That's the reason why you believe Tyson is 6"7'...
Mickie said on 25/Jul/21
Tyson is dropping much more height than Wilder in that last photo. Wilder isn't standing perfectly straight in those photos, sure, but he's not exactly standing any worse than Fury is in any of them either.
Tyson is dropping much more height than Wilder in that last photo. Wilder isn't standing perfectly straight in those photos, sure, but he's not exactly standing any worse than Fury is in any of them either.
Pierre said on 25/Jul/21
@Mickie = Deontay's big muscle can not explain his slouching posture Click Here = here for a rare time he was standing really straight you can see his big muscle don't make look him as he was slouching Click Here = here he's clearly not as his max ,here too = Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
@Mickie = Deontay's big muscle can not explain his slouching posture Click Here = here for a rare time he was standing really straight you can see his big muscle don't make look him as he was slouching Click Here = here he's clearly not as his max ,here too = Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
Mickie said on 24/Jul/21
I'm not talking about strength. Fury can probably out lift Wilder, I mean about Hypertrophy. Wilder has more impressive muscle development, particularly in his back. The shape of his traps seems to fool you into thinking he's hunching even when he's standing normally.
I'm not talking about strength. Fury can probably out lift Wilder, I mean about Hypertrophy. Wilder has more impressive muscle development, particularly in his back. The shape of his traps seems to fool you into thinking he's hunching even when he's standing normally.
Pierre said on 23/Jul/21
Mickie lol Tyson had a strong back too...
Mickie lol Tyson had a strong back too...
Mickie said on 22/Jul/21
If you were to think Tyson Fury is 6'6", what would that make Otto Wallin? 6'3" - 6'4" range, right? Click Here He has been listed as 6'5", 6'5.5", and personally claimed 6'6".
If you were to think Tyson Fury is 6'6", what would that make Otto Wallin? 6'3" - 6'4" range, right? Click Here He has been listed as 6'5", 6'5.5", and personally claimed 6'6".
Mickie said on 22/Jul/21
@ Pierre - I mean, Fury is at a big footwear disadvantage there and you ignore that. Plus you cherry picked a photo, they actually looked closer in height on video than in your pic. And Fury was likely slouching even more due to fatigue of boxing 10 rounds. You always think Wilder is slouching, even when he is standing straight, because he has developed upper back muscles that fool you into thinking he's hunching over when he is not.
@ Pierre - I mean, Fury is at a big footwear disadvantage there and you ignore that. Plus you cherry picked a photo, they actually looked closer in height on video than in your pic. And Fury was likely slouching even more due to fatigue of boxing 10 rounds. You always think Wilder is slouching, even when he is standing straight, because he has developed upper back muscles that fool you into thinking he's hunching over when he is not.
jojo.pearson said on 21/Jul/21
Why does a guy over 6'7 need to exaggerate his height?
Why does a guy over 6'7 need to exaggerate his height?
Pierre said on 17/Jul/21
Lol some people are arguing 6"7' or even more as if Tyson was barefoot in my pics...And when Deontay break his neck and Tyson stands straight they are saying = no Deontay stands in the same posture as Tyson here ....When Tyson stands in front of a door = oh no the door is about same distance to the camera as Tyson ....as if Tyson was recessed in the door lol....I like this "neutral" comments....
Lol some people are arguing 6"7' or even more as if Tyson was barefoot in my pics...And when Deontay break his neck and Tyson stands straight they are saying = no Deontay stands in the same posture as Tyson here ....When Tyson stands in front of a door = oh no the door is about same distance to the camera as Tyson ....as if Tyson was recessed in the door lol....I like this "neutral" comments....
Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Jul/21
Here's the link to the photo I referred to in my last post.
Click Here
Here's the link to the photo I referred to in my last post.
Click Here
Pierre said on 16/Jul/21
Mickie said on 16/Jul/21
Pierre - Wilder is probably tip toeing there lol
The video talks for me...
Mickie said on 16/Jul/21
Pierre - Wilder is probably tip toeing there lol
The video talks for me...
Mickie said on 16/Jul/21
Pierre - Wilder is probably tip toeing there lol
Pierre - Wilder is probably tip toeing there lol
Canson said on 14/Jul/21
Pierre said on 14/Jul/21
Well Tyson would have to looking up a bit to look at Stephen Merchant eye to eye in the ring (except if Stephen still stands in this disadvantageous posture for the photo)
No. It’s the other way around and it wouldn’t be Merchant looking up by much
Pierre said on 14/Jul/21
Well Tyson would have to looking up a bit to look at Stephen Merchant eye to eye in the ring (except if Stephen still stands in this disadvantageous posture for the photo)
No. It’s the other way around and it wouldn’t be Merchant looking up by much
Tall In The Saddle said on 14/Jul/21
@Pierre
Finally we agree. Note the time, date and exactly where you for this momentous occasion.
Yes, Tyson would be looking up at Merchant.....from the canvas after Stephen pulverises him. In all other upright scenarios, Merchant would exclaim how rare it is to meet someone who has the edge on him. Fury will just laugh, hug Merchant and raise his in deference to his his pugilistic prowess.
I think 6’7” to 6’7 1/2” is as good as it gets for the Gypsy King. Impossible to be any more humanly accurate than that.
@Pierre
Finally we agree. Note the time, date and exactly where you for this momentous occasion.
Yes, Tyson would be looking up at Merchant.....from the canvas after Stephen pulverises him. In all other upright scenarios, Merchant would exclaim how rare it is to meet someone who has the edge on him. Fury will just laugh, hug Merchant and raise his in deference to his his pugilistic prowess.
I think 6’7” to 6’7 1/2” is as good as it gets for the Gypsy King. Impossible to be any more humanly accurate than that.
JD1996 said on 14/Jul/21
@canson yeah I think you and Mickie feel he could be anywhere from 6’7.25” up to max 6’7.75” whereas I think he’s 6’7.75” with a smaller chance of 6’8” that’s why I don’t completely rule it out so just a small difference of opinion really. At least Pierre said Tyson 6’7.5” though lol.
@canson yeah I think you and Mickie feel he could be anywhere from 6’7.25” up to max 6’7.75” whereas I think he’s 6’7.75” with a smaller chance of 6’8” that’s why I don’t completely rule it out so just a small difference of opinion really. At least Pierre said Tyson 6’7.5” though lol.
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 14/Jul/21
Pierre said on 14/Jul/21
Well Tyson would have to looking up a bit to look at Stephen Merchant eye to eye in the ring (except if Stephen still stands in this disadvantageous posture for the photo)
Would he really, I believe your previous words indicate otherwise
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Hmm...
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5'
Interesting that you’re now saying he’d have to look up at a 6’7 guy
Pierre said on 14/Jul/21
Well Tyson would have to looking up a bit to look at Stephen Merchant eye to eye in the ring (except if Stephen still stands in this disadvantageous posture for the photo)
Would he really, I believe your previous words indicate otherwise
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Hmm...
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5'
Interesting that you’re now saying he’d have to look up at a 6’7 guy
Pierre said on 14/Jul/21
Well Tyson would have to looking up a bit to look at Stephen Merchant eye to eye in the ring (except if Stephen still stands in this disadvantageous posture for the photo)
Well Tyson would have to looking up a bit to look at Stephen Merchant eye to eye in the ring (except if Stephen still stands in this disadvantageous posture for the photo)
Canson said on 14/Jul/21
@JD1996: I’m with Mickie on that. 6’7.75 may be a stretch but it’s believable but that’s as high as I could see. 6’7.5” is a bit more believable but so is 6’7.25”. I agree with what Mickie said that he’s somewhere in the “at least 6’7 but not as high as 6’8”. I do think he’s 6’7.75 earlier in the day. he could very well measure 6’8.5 out of bed or 1/4” less and dip to 6’7.5 or 1/4” less though
@JD1996: I’m with Mickie on that. 6’7.75 may be a stretch but it’s believable but that’s as high as I could see. 6’7.5” is a bit more believable but so is 6’7.25”. I agree with what Mickie said that he’s somewhere in the “at least 6’7 but not as high as 6’8”. I do think he’s 6’7.75 earlier in the day. he could very well measure 6’8.5 out of bed or 1/4” less and dip to 6’7.5 or 1/4” less though
Canson said on 14/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂
That was priceless. I’d love to see Merchant take on Fury in the ring. Well that may be scary for Merchant but maybe Fury goes easy on him lol. But yea the common denominator is that Pierre now admits Fury is 6’7.5”. He lists Magic 6’9 sarcastically lol
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂
That was priceless. I’d love to see Merchant take on Fury in the ring. Well that may be scary for Merchant but maybe Fury goes easy on him lol. But yea the common denominator is that Pierre now admits Fury is 6’7.5”. He lists Magic 6’9 sarcastically lol
Canson said on 14/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂
That was priceless. I’d love to see Merchant take on Fury in the ring. Well that may be scary for Merchant but maybe Fury goes easy on him lol
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂
That was priceless. I’d love to see Merchant take on Fury in the ring. Well that may be scary for Merchant but maybe Fury goes easy on him lol
Canson said on 14/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 13/Jul/21
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Yes, Tyson Fury is 6’7.5, you’re learning well
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
That’s right Chaos! Take no prisoners!
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 13/Jul/21
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Yes, Tyson Fury is 6’7.5, you’re learning well
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
That’s right Chaos! Take no prisoners!
Tall In The Saddle said on 14/Jul/21
@Canson
Funny to envisage Stephen "Bone Crusher" Merchant, de-spectacled, decked out in well hitched boxing trunks and gloves, ready to rumble. We're talking a sudden stiff breeze and then it's ten and out for Merchant before the ref even completes his instructions. LOL.
Maybe there's a method to Chaos' madness (aka sarcasm, including the Merchant enquiry). It solicited a post from Pierre FINALLY admitting to 6'7 1/2" for Tyson Fury! I might copy Pierre's post and quote it against him in the future, completely out of its original context, of course. LOL.
Kidding Pierre, you're a good sport and understand from your POV, you were also joking in your last post.
@Canson
Funny to envisage Stephen "Bone Crusher" Merchant, de-spectacled, decked out in well hitched boxing trunks and gloves, ready to rumble. We're talking a sudden stiff breeze and then it's ten and out for Merchant before the ref even completes his instructions. LOL.
Maybe there's a method to Chaos' madness (aka sarcasm, including the Merchant enquiry). It solicited a post from Pierre FINALLY admitting to 6'7 1/2" for Tyson Fury! I might copy Pierre's post and quote it against him in the future, completely out of its original context, of course. LOL.
Kidding Pierre, you're a good sport and understand from your POV, you were also joking in your last post.
Leesheff1985 said on 13/Jul/21
Sorry I can never tell if people are being sarcastic or not
Sorry I can never tell if people are being sarcastic or not
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 13/Jul/21
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Yes, Tyson Fury is 6’7.5, you’re learning well
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Yes, Tyson Fury is 6’7.5, you’re learning well
Canson said on 13/Jul/21
Leesheff1985 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is in no way 6ft 4 1/2 he's not under 6ft 8 in my opinion
Chaos was being sarcastic. He knows he’s not under 6’7”
Leesheff1985 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is in no way 6ft 4 1/2 he's not under 6ft 8 in my opinion
Chaos was being sarcastic. He knows he’s not under 6’7”
Canson said on 13/Jul/21
@Chaos: Stephen Merchant the actor. He’s listed 6’7 here and is pretty close to it if not right on the money
@Chaos: Stephen Merchant the actor. He’s listed 6’7 here and is pretty close to it if not right on the money
Mickie said on 13/Jul/21
I think Chaos was joking. Personally I think 6'7.75" would be more like the most I could believe rather than the least. I would describe him as at least 6'7" flat instead.
I think Chaos was joking. Personally I think 6'7.75" would be more like the most I could believe rather than the least. I would describe him as at least 6'7" flat instead.
JD1996 said on 13/Jul/21
@Leesheff1985 nice to know someone is on the same page as me 👍 I think worst case 6’7.75” but could deffo be 6’8” I never rule that out. Fury is a very big man.
@Leesheff1985 nice to know someone is on the same page as me 👍 I think worst case 6’7.75” but could deffo be 6’8” I never rule that out. Fury is a very big man.
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Canson said on 12/Jul/21
@Chaos Control: yea if using a lunchtime height, I’d say 6’6 1/8 up to 6’6 3/8” depending on where his low falls
@Chaos Control: yea if using a lunchtime height, I’d say 6’6 1/8 up to 6’6 3/8” depending on where his low falls
Canson said on 12/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle: love the way you said it. Intermediary! Well said! And he may well be that
@Tall in the Saddle: love the way you said it. Intermediary! Well said! And he may well be that
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Jul/21
@Canson
Yep, I Merchant's def. got Wilder and he might present as a nice intermediary between Fury and Deontay.
Who’s Merchant? Is he another boxer, one that I’m not aware of?
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Jul/21
@Canson
Yep, I Merchant's def. got Wilder and he might present as a nice intermediary between Fury and Deontay.
Who’s Merchant? Is he another boxer, one that I’m not aware of?
Leesheff1985 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is in no way 6ft 4 1/2 he's not under 6ft 8 in my opinion
Fury is in no way 6ft 4 1/2 he's not under 6ft 8 in my opinion
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Jul/21
@Canson
Yep, I Merchant's def. got Wilder and he might present as a nice intermediary between Fury and Deontay.
@Canson
Yep, I Merchant's def. got Wilder and he might present as a nice intermediary between Fury and Deontay.
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 11/Jul/21
@Canson I don’t think Wilder is just 6’6 normally. I think he is late in the evening
@Canson I don’t think Wilder is just 6’6 normally. I think he is late in the evening
Canson said on 11/Jul/21
@JD1996: minimum 1/2” in my opinion but maybe up to an inch if Wilder is only 6’6 and Merchant really is a flat 6’7”. These are afternoon/evening heights of course
@JD1996: minimum 1/2” in my opinion but maybe up to an inch if Wilder is only 6’6 and Merchant really is a flat 6’7”. These are afternoon/evening heights of course
Canson said on 11/Jul/21
@Chaos: I can see 6’6.25 but your estimate is something I’ve seen too 6’6 flat. I used to rule out 6’6.5 but if he is that’s the absolute best. My guess is similar to Carmelo 6’6-6’6.5
@Chaos: I can see 6’6.25 but your estimate is something I’ve seen too 6’6 flat. I used to rule out 6’6.5 but if he is that’s the absolute best. My guess is similar to Carmelo 6’6-6’6.5
JD1996 said on 11/Jul/21
@canson how much do you reckon merchant would have on wilder?
@canson how much do you reckon merchant would have on wilder?
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 11/Jul/21
@Candon you think Wilder is 6’6.25 right? I can see 6’6 at his low and 6’5.75 or 7/8 at his extreme low
@Candon you think Wilder is 6’6.25 right? I can see 6’6 at his low and 6’5.75 or 7/8 at his extreme low
Canson said on 10/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle and Mickie: the one thing I will say about Merchant is that he’s a better “6’7” than Deontay Wilder lol although Wilder measured 6’6.5” and that was likely earlier in the day than later
@Tall in the Saddle and Mickie: the one thing I will say about Merchant is that he’s a better “6’7” than Deontay Wilder lol although Wilder measured 6’6.5” and that was likely earlier in the day than later
Canson said on 10/Jul/21
@Chaos Control: well said!
@Chaos Control: well said!
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 10/Jul/21
Chaos, yeah Reddit can be a bit dicey as a resource. As JD said, somewhere between 6’5” and 6’6” is probably more on the mark.
Reddit guesses aren’t reliable unless the match up with my own
Chaos, yeah Reddit can be a bit dicey as a resource. As JD said, somewhere between 6’5” and 6’6” is probably more on the mark.
Reddit guesses aren’t reliable unless the match up with my own
Mickie said on 9/Jul/21
I think 6'6.75" would be a good guess for Merchant with a chance of 6'7"... I believe 6'7" flat is possible but if I had to put money on whether he could be just under the mark or just over the mark, I'd definitely pick just under.
I think 6'6.75" would be a good guess for Merchant with a chance of 6'7"... I believe 6'7" flat is possible but if I had to put money on whether he could be just under the mark or just over the mark, I'd definitely pick just under.
Tall In The Saddle said on 9/Jul/21
@Canson
I’d lean more toward 6’7” flush but a mere 1/4” shy of that definitely isn’t impossible. Covid, eh? Wow.
@Chaos, yeah Reddit can be a bit dicey as a resource. As JD said, somewhere between 6’5” and 6’6” is probably more on the mark.
@Pierre
All good.
@Canson
I’d lean more toward 6’7” flush but a mere 1/4” shy of that definitely isn’t impossible. Covid, eh? Wow.
@Chaos, yeah Reddit can be a bit dicey as a resource. As JD said, somewhere between 6’5” and 6’6” is probably more on the mark.
@Pierre
All good.
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 9/Jul/21
Canson said on 9/Jul/21
Say it ain’t so. He’s positive for Covid???
Ugh, Covid is so 2020. I mean like get a new disease amiright?
Canson said on 9/Jul/21
Say it ain’t so. He’s positive for Covid???
Ugh, Covid is so 2020. I mean like get a new disease amiright?
Canson said on 9/Jul/21
Say it ain’t so. He’s positive for Covid???
Say it ain’t so. He’s positive for Covid???
Pierre said on 9/Jul/21
@Tall In the Saddle Oh yeah that's a very interesting point of vue one more time.
Well more seriously Tyson 6"6' range again to me.
@Tall In the Saddle Oh yeah that's a very interesting point of vue one more time.
Well more seriously Tyson 6"6' range again to me.
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 9/Jul/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jul/21
@Mickie
With both at best posture I also think that Tyson would slightly edge Merchant.
As to Ajagba, what's the consensus opinion here on his height? He's often listed 6'6" but I did see a 6'5" listing and someone on Reddit had him as low as 6'4".
I’ve seen someone on Reddit guess 6’2.25 Roman Reigns as 6’5, I’m not sure Reddit guesses are the best source
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jul/21
@Mickie
With both at best posture I also think that Tyson would slightly edge Merchant.
As to Ajagba, what's the consensus opinion here on his height? He's often listed 6'6" but I did see a 6'5" listing and someone on Reddit had him as low as 6'4".
I’ve seen someone on Reddit guess 6’2.25 Roman Reigns as 6’5, I’m not sure Reddit guesses are the best source
Mickie said on 8/Jul/21
Not the best angle, but Ajagba looks significantly above 6'4" here Click Here That is Robert Helenius third from the right who is supposed to be 199 - 200 cm range. The guys on either side of Ajagba are supposed to be 6'4" and 6'3" respectively, but that is fairly unbelievable here lol.
Not the best angle, but Ajagba looks significantly above 6'4" here Click Here That is Robert Helenius third from the right who is supposed to be 199 - 200 cm range. The guys on either side of Ajagba are supposed to be 6'4" and 6'3" respectively, but that is fairly unbelievable here lol.
Canson said on 8/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle: I wonder if Merchant isn’t possibly 200cm although he also looks 6’7 in the flesh. Yea Fury would be taller by at least 1/4”
@Tall in the Saddle: I wonder if Merchant isn’t possibly 200cm although he also looks 6’7 in the flesh. Yea Fury would be taller by at least 1/4”
JD1996 said on 8/Jul/21
Ajagba looked about an inch taller than Lennox Lewis so maybe between 6’5” and 6’6” wouldn’t say full 6’6” though.
Ajagba looked about an inch taller than Lennox Lewis so maybe between 6’5” and 6’6” wouldn’t say full 6’6” though.
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jul/21
@Mickie
With both at best posture I also think that Tyson would slightly edge Merchant.
As to Ajagba, what's the consensus opinion here on his height? He's often listed 6'6" but I did see a 6'5" listing and someone on Reddit had him as low as 6'4".
@Mickie
With both at best posture I also think that Tyson would slightly edge Merchant.
As to Ajagba, what's the consensus opinion here on his height? He's often listed 6'6" but I did see a 6'5" listing and someone on Reddit had him as low as 6'4".
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jul/21
@Pierre
The last hallway video was a higher P.O.V. all else acceptably the same for the purposes of the analysis. Another false grievance answered. So, wrong again.
As usual, your observations?? are blatantly disconnected from and in denial of any vision that doesn't suit you or your premeditated beliefs. I've already addressed Merchant's posture and Tyson's cap. As usual also, your reply contained nothing in support of your claims, including NO qualification of how and by how much Tyson's cap give's him meaningful advantage. You just repeated that Tyson's cap is "good" and it "helps".
I guess this is the "cap" you see Tyson wearing in your mind's eye:-, with that, I'll peace out on this one.
Click Here
@Pierre
The last hallway video was a higher P.O.V. all else acceptably the same for the purposes of the analysis. Another false grievance answered. So, wrong again.
As usual, your observations?? are blatantly disconnected from and in denial of any vision that doesn't suit you or your premeditated beliefs. I've already addressed Merchant's posture and Tyson's cap. As usual also, your reply contained nothing in support of your claims, including NO qualification of how and by how much Tyson's cap give's him meaningful advantage. You just repeated that Tyson's cap is "good" and it "helps".
I guess this is the "cap" you see Tyson wearing in your mind's eye:-, with that, I'll peace out on this one.
Click Here
JD1996 said on 8/Jul/21
@mickie yeah that’s what I see 2.5-2.75 inches that’s why I said near 3 inches to indicate that. I think Tyson fury would be noticeably taller than Stephen merchant it wouldn’t be hard to see if they stood next to each other.
@mickie yeah that’s what I see 2.5-2.75 inches that’s why I said near 3 inches to indicate that. I think Tyson fury would be noticeably taller than Stephen merchant it wouldn’t be hard to see if they stood next to each other.
Mickie said on 7/Jul/21
@JD1996 - I should add in that photo, it does look like it could be closer to 3 than 2. I see more like 2.5 - 2.75.
@JD1996 - I should add in that photo, it does look like it could be closer to 3 than 2. I see more like 2.5 - 2.75.
Mickie said on 7/Jul/21
@JD1996 - I do see more than 2 inches there but not as much as 3.
@JD1996 - I do see more than 2 inches there but not as much as 3.
Mickie said on 7/Jul/21
I think Fury would edge out Merchant. Not saying there would be much in it, but I think if standing well Fury would be slightly taller. I think Merchant is 6'7" flat at most where as Fury is 6'7" flat at least.
I think Fury would edge out Merchant. Not saying there would be much in it, but I think if standing well Fury would be slightly taller. I think Merchant is 6'7" flat at most where as Fury is 6'7" flat at least.
JD1996 said on 7/Jul/21
Link didn’t come through right Click Here this is the one shows near 3 inches difference between Tyson and Efe Ajagba
Link didn’t come through right Click Here this is the one shows near 3 inches difference between Tyson and Efe Ajagba
Pierre said on 7/Jul/21
@Tall In The Saddle = Your theories and supposed arguments that the camera isn't low and that Stephen Merchant has not a big disadvantage of posture are as wrong as Tyson's good cap doesn't give him a help .Your last video shows nothing more than the first video,only that the doors here are clearly lower than the doors in the first video and that the camera one more time stands a lot lower than the ceiling,like in the famous pic Tyson standing closer to the door...And so the camera give a good advantage to Tyson.
@Tall In The Saddle = Your theories and supposed arguments that the camera isn't low and that Stephen Merchant has not a big disadvantage of posture are as wrong as Tyson's good cap doesn't give him a help .Your last video shows nothing more than the first video,only that the doors here are clearly lower than the doors in the first video and that the camera one more time stands a lot lower than the ceiling,like in the famous pic Tyson standing closer to the door...And so the camera give a good advantage to Tyson.
JD1996 said on 7/Jul/21
Another photo of Tyson fury and Efe Ajagba looking near 3 inches difference in Tyson’s favour here Click Here
Another photo of Tyson fury and Efe Ajagba looking near 3 inches difference in Tyson’s favour here Click Here
Tall In The Saddle said on 7/Jul/21
@Pierre
Your arguments have been considerately addressed and logically discredited. Meandering off point and trying to conflate my specifically addressed refutes doesn't change that.
Your original posits re original Fury photo that have ALL been proven incorrect. To get you back on track, here they are:-
1) Camera at deceptively low height X 2)Tyson closer to camera than door X 3)Camera angled up toward Tyson X (your rationale? Vision capture of the ceiling)
I clearly provided the hallway shot to illustrate a FLAT view (viz camera pointed parallel to floor and ceiling), not an angled view as you did claim was necessary to allow for vision of the ceiling in the original photo. The hallway shot clearly shows a flat view that, with sufficient distance ahead, will capture equal vision of ceiling, floor and adjacent walls. It doesn't matter if you keep pretending you don't understand this.
Also, actually talk about the height of the handle relative to the camera man's view point in the original photo, NOT the handle in the hallway shot. You're clearly dodging that. Proof that the camera height wasn't low at all and therefore did not present an impractically deceptive image of Tyson's height relative to the background door. And, if you really want another FLAT hallway shot with the handles clearly below the view point of the camera man, here's one. The proof remains EXACTLY the same. No way out. Let's take a stroll, :) Click Here
So, on redress, notice how hard you've tried to disingenuously discredit a fair photo of Tyson that simply didn't suit your estimate of Tyson's height? You blindly threw everything but the kitchen sink at it but your claims were not in accord with the actual attributes of the photo. The primary issue for you is a photo depicting Tyson standing taller than you would like him to be. LOL.
Still pushing Tyson's cap/top hat? Okay, if Tyson's cap "helps" as you claim, how so and how much? You conspicuously left out your reasoning and estimate for same. Why? Because the cap doesn't help and Tyson also doesn't have hair which allows for an even more snug, sheer fit than the average bear with hair. Your comment on the cap presents itself as nothing more than a deflective, throw away line. I also highlighted the difference in Fury's and Vaughn's eye levels which correlates with the difference in height as marked by the top of Tyson's cap and Vaughn's head.
I provided a clip of Merchant, not a self serving still of which there are many available to make Merchant appear even less tall. Toward the end of the clip Vaughn loosens his posture a bit and Merchant straightens up. Merchant still isn't cracking the advantage a shoe less Fury held over Vaughn. At any rate, why bother with a photo of a subject whose posture is apparently so badly compromised. LOL, it's like being back to the photos of Wilder's "broken back" and obviously intended to allow you unreasonable wiggle room to extrapolate on how tall Merchant would stand if straight? LOL, poor quality evidence, yet again.
The majority of us don't need Tyson to be any height, we only seek the height he can be objectively estimated at. Did you notice in light of the recent Wilder face off that more than a few us have entertained to perhaps shave some off our original estimates, some down to a flat 6'7"? It seems such objectivity and flexibility is beyond your own sensibilities.
@Pierre
Your arguments have been considerately addressed and logically discredited. Meandering off point and trying to conflate my specifically addressed refutes doesn't change that.
Your original posits re original Fury photo that have ALL been proven incorrect. To get you back on track, here they are:-
1) Camera at deceptively low height X 2)Tyson closer to camera than door X 3)Camera angled up toward Tyson X (your rationale? Vision capture of the ceiling)
I clearly provided the hallway shot to illustrate a FLAT view (viz camera pointed parallel to floor and ceiling), not an angled view as you did claim was necessary to allow for vision of the ceiling in the original photo. The hallway shot clearly shows a flat view that, with sufficient distance ahead, will capture equal vision of ceiling, floor and adjacent walls. It doesn't matter if you keep pretending you don't understand this.
Also, actually talk about the height of the handle relative to the camera man's view point in the original photo, NOT the handle in the hallway shot. You're clearly dodging that. Proof that the camera height wasn't low at all and therefore did not present an impractically deceptive image of Tyson's height relative to the background door. And, if you really want another FLAT hallway shot with the handles clearly below the view point of the camera man, here's one. The proof remains EXACTLY the same. No way out. Let's take a stroll, :) Click Here
So, on redress, notice how hard you've tried to disingenuously discredit a fair photo of Tyson that simply didn't suit your estimate of Tyson's height? You blindly threw everything but the kitchen sink at it but your claims were not in accord with the actual attributes of the photo. The primary issue for you is a photo depicting Tyson standing taller than you would like him to be. LOL.
Still pushing Tyson's cap/top hat? Okay, if Tyson's cap "helps" as you claim, how so and how much? You conspicuously left out your reasoning and estimate for same. Why? Because the cap doesn't help and Tyson also doesn't have hair which allows for an even more snug, sheer fit than the average bear with hair. Your comment on the cap presents itself as nothing more than a deflective, throw away line. I also highlighted the difference in Fury's and Vaughn's eye levels which correlates with the difference in height as marked by the top of Tyson's cap and Vaughn's head.
I provided a clip of Merchant, not a self serving still of which there are many available to make Merchant appear even less tall. Toward the end of the clip Vaughn loosens his posture a bit and Merchant straightens up. Merchant still isn't cracking the advantage a shoe less Fury held over Vaughn. At any rate, why bother with a photo of a subject whose posture is apparently so badly compromised. LOL, it's like being back to the photos of Wilder's "broken back" and obviously intended to allow you unreasonable wiggle room to extrapolate on how tall Merchant would stand if straight? LOL, poor quality evidence, yet again.
The majority of us don't need Tyson to be any height, we only seek the height he can be objectively estimated at. Did you notice in light of the recent Wilder face off that more than a few us have entertained to perhaps shave some off our original estimates, some down to a flat 6'7"? It seems such objectivity and flexibility is beyond your own sensibilities.
Canson said on 5/Jul/21
Pierre said on 3/Jul/21
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@Pierre: not to be rude, but you have a plethora of excuses when it comes to other people’s evidence, i.e.- there pictures and perspectives. It’s always that the camera angle is bad or favorable toward Fury for example but unfavorable toward someone else toward Wilder when he doesn’t look as tall. Yet I never see you make the same comments or assessments about your own pictures when they are all over the place and bad
Funny Canson that you call my own pics bad....while you still take this pics on ring with low angles as supposed good examples of good pics....
Bad is a polite way to put them Pierre. No disrespect. And if you look carefully, I am not the only poster that calls them out. So they must not be all that good
Pierre said on 3/Jul/21
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@Pierre: not to be rude, but you have a plethora of excuses when it comes to other people’s evidence, i.e.- there pictures and perspectives. It’s always that the camera angle is bad or favorable toward Fury for example but unfavorable toward someone else toward Wilder when he doesn’t look as tall. Yet I never see you make the same comments or assessments about your own pictures when they are all over the place and bad
Funny Canson that you call my own pics bad....while you still take this pics on ring with low angles as supposed good examples of good pics....
Bad is a polite way to put them Pierre. No disrespect. And if you look carefully, I am not the only poster that calls them out. So they must not be all that good
Pierre said on 5/Jul/21
@Tall In The Saddle Lol your last comparison is about as credible than your attempt to discredit me with this video with the guy who walk in the hall with a camera visibly a lot lower than the door (and so a lot lower than the ceiling...)= Stephen Merchant here loses a big quantity of height to try to stands around the same height as his friends for the photo, no hard to see it ,but a guy who wants absolutely put Tyson as tall as 6"7' range forget naturally to mention it( And of course a good cap like Tyson's cap will give you a help...)Nice try again...
@Tall In The Saddle Lol your last comparison is about as credible than your attempt to discredit me with this video with the guy who walk in the hall with a camera visibly a lot lower than the door (and so a lot lower than the ceiling...)= Stephen Merchant here loses a big quantity of height to try to stands around the same height as his friends for the photo, no hard to see it ,but a guy who wants absolutely put Tyson as tall as 6"7' range forget naturally to mention it( And of course a good cap like Tyson's cap will give you a help...)Nice try again...
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Jul/21
@Pierre
Not my new argument. It was yours. Among other evidence proving same, I correctly pointed out that the height of the near door relative to the background door upheld the distance of the camera. To deflect from that proof you then desperately tried to claim that the relative height of the adjacent door suggested a low camera view point. I discredited your claim by pointing to the door handle which the camera view point is clearly well above. In fact, the camera view point is clearly not unusually below the height of the door either. Door handles can range from 2 to 1.1 metres. No one suggested otherwise, so your point is......? You’re still not bringing anything to the table aside from blatant bias re assessment of Tyson’s height which you’ve taken all the way down the line re this one photo. Possibly worse than your frivolous efforts to discredit Tyson’s obvious advantage in the ring face off.
As to a barefoot Tyson wearing a baseball cap, you talk as if it’s giving him the illusory advantage of Top Hat. I guess the next new line will be that Tyson must be prone to wearing a “lift” in his cap. LOL.
The height increase from a snug cap is negligible and people do also factor eye levels in their assessment.
Hardly as tall as Merchant next to Vaughn? Pull the other one and it plays Jingle Bells. Vince Vaughn, Stephen Merchant, Click Here Tyson was easily as tall and barefoot too. Though Tyson was wearing his baseball top hat I guess.
@Pierre
Not my new argument. It was yours. Among other evidence proving same, I correctly pointed out that the height of the near door relative to the background door upheld the distance of the camera. To deflect from that proof you then desperately tried to claim that the relative height of the adjacent door suggested a low camera view point. I discredited your claim by pointing to the door handle which the camera view point is clearly well above. In fact, the camera view point is clearly not unusually below the height of the door either. Door handles can range from 2 to 1.1 metres. No one suggested otherwise, so your point is......? You’re still not bringing anything to the table aside from blatant bias re assessment of Tyson’s height which you’ve taken all the way down the line re this one photo. Possibly worse than your frivolous efforts to discredit Tyson’s obvious advantage in the ring face off.
As to a barefoot Tyson wearing a baseball cap, you talk as if it’s giving him the illusory advantage of Top Hat. I guess the next new line will be that Tyson must be prone to wearing a “lift” in his cap. LOL.
The height increase from a snug cap is negligible and people do also factor eye levels in their assessment.
Hardly as tall as Merchant next to Vaughn? Pull the other one and it plays Jingle Bells. Vince Vaughn, Stephen Merchant, Click Here Tyson was easily as tall and barefoot too. Though Tyson was wearing his baseball top hat I guess.
Pierre said on 5/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle = Yeah the door handle...But a door handle on a door is something around only a meter above the floor...Nice try your new argument ...
@Tall in the Saddle = Yeah the door handle...But a door handle on a door is something around only a meter above the floor...Nice try your new argument ...
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Jul/21
@Pierre
I covered all your points except a few in your second to last post. Essentially because as each of your arguments is discredited you move to a new one based on some reference in my refutations.
Example. You claimed a camera angled up due to partial vision of the ceiling. I illustrated the capture of ceiling, doors and walls due to natural FOV capture with a flat camera view. I also highlighted vision of the side door to point how high the door adjacent to the cameraman appeared relative to the door in the background to PROVE the cameraman’s distance from Fury.
You didn’t address that fact, rather you then became aware of the height of the adjacent door and suggested that it proved a lower camera height. LOL. The height of the camera level relative to the door handle speaks for itself. That’s no munchkin taking the photo or perhaps someone who used some elevation to take the shot.
Anyway......
@Chaos. Exactly. What is there not to like about T.I.T.S? Universally respected and very much admired but, of course, there will always be the “knockers” since they go with the territory. Boom boom. Cue Benny Hill chase music......
@Pierre
I covered all your points except a few in your second to last post. Essentially because as each of your arguments is discredited you move to a new one based on some reference in my refutations.
Example. You claimed a camera angled up due to partial vision of the ceiling. I illustrated the capture of ceiling, doors and walls due to natural FOV capture with a flat camera view. I also highlighted vision of the side door to point how high the door adjacent to the cameraman appeared relative to the door in the background to PROVE the cameraman’s distance from Fury.
You didn’t address that fact, rather you then became aware of the height of the adjacent door and suggested that it proved a lower camera height. LOL. The height of the camera level relative to the door handle speaks for itself. That’s no munchkin taking the photo or perhaps someone who used some elevation to take the shot.
Anyway......
@Chaos. Exactly. What is there not to like about T.I.T.S? Universally respected and very much admired but, of course, there will always be the “knockers” since they go with the territory. Boom boom. Cue Benny Hill chase music......
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 4/Jul/21
@Pierre to be fair I never said I was respectful
@Pierre to be fair I never said I was respectful
Pierre said on 4/Jul/21
Yeah Tyson very probably was barefoot next to Vince Vaughn...but was wearing a good cap if my memory is good....And finally was looking hardly as tall as Stephen Merchant 6'7" next to Vince....
Yeah Tyson very probably was barefoot next to Vince Vaughn...but was wearing a good cap if my memory is good....And finally was looking hardly as tall as Stephen Merchant 6'7" next to Vince....
Pierre said on 4/Jul/21
@Tall in the saddle Lol fact is you have not right argument relatively to my next response to your comment...
@Tall in the saddle Lol fact is you have not right argument relatively to my next response to your comment...
Pierre said on 4/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 4/Jul/21
Pierre said on 30/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle = lol ..."not to be rude"....your long comment doesn't give you reason .
@Pierre you ought to know that T. I. T. S. is one of the most respectful, likeable posters on this site, and certainly better than you could ever hope to be
Oh yeah @ChaosControl very interesting comment...
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 4/Jul/21
Pierre said on 30/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle = lol ..."not to be rude"....your long comment doesn't give you reason .
@Pierre you ought to know that T. I. T. S. is one of the most respectful, likeable posters on this site, and certainly better than you could ever hope to be
Oh yeah @ChaosControl very interesting comment...
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 4/Jul/21
Pierre said on 30/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle = lol ..."not to be rude"....your long comment doesn't give you reason .
@Pierre you ought to know that T. I. T. S. is one of the most respectful, likeable posters on this site, and certainly better than you could ever hope to be
Pierre said on 30/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle = lol ..."not to be rude"....your long comment doesn't give you reason .
@Pierre you ought to know that T. I. T. S. is one of the most respectful, likeable posters on this site, and certainly better than you could ever hope to be
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Jul/21
@Mickie
Thanks for the clip. Strange how the meeting of Tyson and Vaughn has been sparingly fragmented over multiple, individual uploads on YouTube. It makes it hard to point to seamless, complete vision and context (viz, Tyson not wearing shoes). I saw one video specifically described as their meeting one another and it didn't even include any vision of same at all. I also appreciate your objective reference to an alternative angle which indicated Fury not quite holding the same advantage over Vaughn.
@Mickie
Thanks for the clip. Strange how the meeting of Tyson and Vaughn has been sparingly fragmented over multiple, individual uploads on YouTube. It makes it hard to point to seamless, complete vision and context (viz, Tyson not wearing shoes). I saw one video specifically described as their meeting one another and it didn't even include any vision of same at all. I also appreciate your objective reference to an alternative angle which indicated Fury not quite holding the same advantage over Vaughn.
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Jul/21
@Pierre
LOL myself. Comments naturally require more content when one has to dumb down the obvious.
Anyway, IMO, your extreme bias and/or lack of visual judgement has been even more deeply revealed.
NO, "neutral" is obviously NOT the top of Tyson's head. Suffice to say, when it comes to Tyson, your address is anything but "neutral". LOL. No matter. It's just a discussion re height. Anyway, in lieu of repeating all the properly rationalized evidence which your replies have failed to converge on and discredit, I'll punctuate myself with a simple redress of the original photo in question and your follow up "analogy" to same.
This is the photo JD provided, Click Here
And this was your reply offering claiming it was the "same" in terms of camera height, angle, perspective and subject position relative to the doorway. Click Here
I mean, for our intents and purposes, reasonable judges would have a field day playing spot the difference between these two photos. Apples to Oranges. LOL.
@Pierre
LOL myself. Comments naturally require more content when one has to dumb down the obvious.
Anyway, IMO, your extreme bias and/or lack of visual judgement has been even more deeply revealed.
NO, "neutral" is obviously NOT the top of Tyson's head. Suffice to say, when it comes to Tyson, your address is anything but "neutral". LOL. No matter. It's just a discussion re height. Anyway, in lieu of repeating all the properly rationalized evidence which your replies have failed to converge on and discredit, I'll punctuate myself with a simple redress of the original photo in question and your follow up "analogy" to same.
This is the photo JD provided, Click Here
And this was your reply offering claiming it was the "same" in terms of camera height, angle, perspective and subject position relative to the doorway. Click Here
I mean, for our intents and purposes, reasonable judges would have a field day playing spot the difference between these two photos. Apples to Oranges. LOL.
Mickie said on 3/Jul/21
Yeah I could see Tyson being as low as 6'7" flat. Under that seems pretty unlikely; but a fraction over it seems more likely.
Yeah I could see Tyson being as low as 6'7" flat. Under that seems pretty unlikely; but a fraction over it seems more likely.
Pierre said on 3/Jul/21
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@Pierre: not to be rude, but you have a plethora of excuses when it comes to other people’s evidence, i.e.- there pictures and perspectives. It’s always that the camera angle is bad or favorable toward Fury for example but unfavorable toward someone else toward Wilder when he doesn’t look as tall. Yet I never see you make the same comments or assessments about your own pictures when they are all over the place and bad
Funny Canson that you call my own pics bad....while you still take this pics on ring with low angles as supposed good examples of good pics....
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@Pierre: not to be rude, but you have a plethora of excuses when it comes to other people’s evidence, i.e.- there pictures and perspectives. It’s always that the camera angle is bad or favorable toward Fury for example but unfavorable toward someone else toward Wilder when he doesn’t look as tall. Yet I never see you make the same comments or assessments about your own pictures when they are all over the place and bad
Funny Canson that you call my own pics bad....while you still take this pics on ring with low angles as supposed good examples of good pics....
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@JD1996: Thanks! Looks like my post didn’t come out right. Meant to say Their pictures and perspectives and meant to say unfavorable toward someone else like Wilder. That’s the truth though and I say it sincerely because I don’t think Pierre is a troll or a bad person but clearly his estimates aren’t good for some of these celebs and Fury is one. Kane is another. He has him under 6’6 which is impossible let alone 6’5”. Really Kane is almost a clear cut case of over 6’6 (199+ with an outside possibility of 6’6.75). I proved that with the photo of Donovan smith and that’s without seeing footwear. I’d imagine based on attire that Smith would have more footwear than Kane. Kane is in a suit and not sure how thick the shoe is. Smith is in street clothes. I’d imagine he’s in sneaks and if they’re 1” then that could be or they’re similar. But who knows? It’s still minimum 1” maybe even 3cm. The same bag of excuses was used there too with that picture. But back to Fury. Fury was clearly taller than Braun Strowman when they faced off. Even if Strowman is 6’6 flat somehow which is within the realm of possibility, it still puts Fury around 6’7”. It really looks an inch at times but it’s no less than 2cm. Coincidentally, it looks around the same difference as it does with Deontay Wilder. Rob has both Guys are listed at 6’6.5”. Now the listings aren’t always perfect but if I bet money, I would think Strowman is the taller of the two or that both guys may only be 6’6.25-.5 range despite Wilder having more favorable proportions. I saw how Wilder stacked up with Carmelo Anthony albeit with camera advantage in Melo’s favor. And Like Tall in the Saddle eloquently said (as he usually does) in his last post, we can’t rule out 6’7 flat for Fury but anything less is pretty much impossible unless we are talking extreme low territory and that’s if the guy even gets as low as 6’7” to begin with.
@JD1996: Thanks! Looks like my post didn’t come out right. Meant to say Their pictures and perspectives and meant to say unfavorable toward someone else like Wilder. That’s the truth though and I say it sincerely because I don’t think Pierre is a troll or a bad person but clearly his estimates aren’t good for some of these celebs and Fury is one. Kane is another. He has him under 6’6 which is impossible let alone 6’5”. Really Kane is almost a clear cut case of over 6’6 (199+ with an outside possibility of 6’6.75). I proved that with the photo of Donovan smith and that’s without seeing footwear. I’d imagine based on attire that Smith would have more footwear than Kane. Kane is in a suit and not sure how thick the shoe is. Smith is in street clothes. I’d imagine he’s in sneaks and if they’re 1” then that could be or they’re similar. But who knows? It’s still minimum 1” maybe even 3cm. The same bag of excuses was used there too with that picture. But back to Fury. Fury was clearly taller than Braun Strowman when they faced off. Even if Strowman is 6’6 flat somehow which is within the realm of possibility, it still puts Fury around 6’7”. It really looks an inch at times but it’s no less than 2cm. Coincidentally, it looks around the same difference as it does with Deontay Wilder. Rob has both Guys are listed at 6’6.5”. Now the listings aren’t always perfect but if I bet money, I would think Strowman is the taller of the two or that both guys may only be 6’6.25-.5 range despite Wilder having more favorable proportions. I saw how Wilder stacked up with Carmelo Anthony albeit with camera advantage in Melo’s favor. And Like Tall in the Saddle eloquently said (as he usually does) in his last post, we can’t rule out 6’7 flat for Fury but anything less is pretty much impossible unless we are talking extreme low territory and that’s if the guy even gets as low as 6’7” to begin with.
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle: I agree with everything you said! And this years evidence still bolsters what you said especially being it looked more like an inch or even 2cm difference between them. But result is still the same in that he’s taller than Wilder. That lends some credence to a possibility of 6’7 for Fury and 6’6.5 for Wilder is possible if 2cm. But surely not a 6’6 Fury 😂. That would make Wilder 6’5 which we can all look at and tell he isn’t being Rob met Anthony Joshua and he’s taller than Joshua and Klitschko along with Lewis. But you hit it on the head. Wilder could be 6’6-6’6.5 range and Fury an inch taller in the same range worst case like you said
@Tall in the Saddle: I agree with everything you said! And this years evidence still bolsters what you said especially being it looked more like an inch or even 2cm difference between them. But result is still the same in that he’s taller than Wilder. That lends some credence to a possibility of 6’7 for Fury and 6’6.5 for Wilder is possible if 2cm. But surely not a 6’6 Fury 😂. That would make Wilder 6’5 which we can all look at and tell he isn’t being Rob met Anthony Joshua and he’s taller than Joshua and Klitschko along with Lewis. But you hit it on the head. Wilder could be 6’6-6’6.5 range and Fury an inch taller in the same range worst case like you said
JD1996 said on 3/Jul/21
@canson spot on mate Pierre always comes out with that when Tyson fury is looking taller than he wants.
@canson spot on mate Pierre always comes out with that when Tyson fury is looking taller than he wants.
Canson said on 3/Jul/21
@Pierre: not to be rude, but you have a plethora of excuses when it comes to other people’s evidence, i.e.- there pictures and perspectives. It’s always that the camera angle is bad or favorable toward Fury for example but unfavorable toward someone else toward Wilder when he doesn’t look as tall. Yet I never see you make the same comments or assessments about your own pictures when they are all over the place and bad
@Pierre: not to be rude, but you have a plethora of excuses when it comes to other people’s evidence, i.e.- there pictures and perspectives. It’s always that the camera angle is bad or favorable toward Fury for example but unfavorable toward someone else toward Wilder when he doesn’t look as tall. Yet I never see you make the same comments or assessments about your own pictures when they are all over the place and bad
JD1996 said on 3/Jul/21
@canson yeah I get you
@canson yeah I get you
Mickie said on 2/Jul/21
This isn't the clip I saw previously, but here is Fury putting on his boxing shoes after meeting Vince Click Here to be fair I did see another clip of them meeting from another angle and the difference seemed a bit less than the other video here. But yeah Fury was barefoot.
This isn't the clip I saw previously, but here is Fury putting on his boxing shoes after meeting Vince Click Here to be fair I did see another clip of them meeting from another angle and the difference seemed a bit less than the other video here. But yeah Fury was barefoot.
Canson said on 30/Jun/21
@JD1996: it’s tough because of his posture. I think he can look his listed height in the ring. I’d leave him at that. I only give the 1/4” or so below it because he has poor posture often enough and we can’t tell which is which. But he’s def not under 6’7 was all I was saying. He’d end up a strong 6’7 than a guy like Stephen Merchant and could also be taller than Lebron in reality. I’d put money he is taller
@JD1996: it’s tough because of his posture. I think he can look his listed height in the ring. I’d leave him at that. I only give the 1/4” or so below it because he has poor posture often enough and we can’t tell which is which. But he’s def not under 6’7 was all I was saying. He’d end up a strong 6’7 than a guy like Stephen Merchant and could also be taller than Lebron in reality. I’d put money he is taller
Pierre said on 30/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle = lol ..."not to be rude"....your long comment doesn't give you reason .Your video of the guy walking with the camera just prove the camera one more time is low,that we can clearly see with the doors on the side clearly a lot more higher than the camera when the camera stands next to the doors ....
Of course the camera is low in this pic with Tyson.
Plus = To be neutral the camera should be as high as Tyson's top of head....What is the probability the cameran is 6"11' tall or around lol....
@Tall in the Saddle = lol ..."not to be rude"....your long comment doesn't give you reason .Your video of the guy walking with the camera just prove the camera one more time is low,that we can clearly see with the doors on the side clearly a lot more higher than the camera when the camera stands next to the doors ....
Of course the camera is low in this pic with Tyson.
Plus = To be neutral the camera should be as high as Tyson's top of head....What is the probability the cameran is 6"11' tall or around lol....
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Jun/21
@Canson
True, in all possibility, we could be looking at a flat 6'7" for Tyson or a touch over. So far, nothing to suggest lower imho. The Magic photos are what they are and if there is no outstanding explanation for same I won't reach for one. However, all I can say is that the available evidence involving third parties (viz Magic and Fury posing separately with common subjects like Lennox Lewis etc.) is at notable odds with the actual vision of Magic and Fury together. Those third party photos suggest that Tyson and Magic should've stood much closer in height. Anyway, the most recent trigger to question Tyson's height was the recent presser with Wilder which, curiously, was actually the best Wilder ever stood in the face of Tyson but in all objectivity, sans questionable footwear, I have to remain with the best evidence of the ring face off.
@Mickie
So Fury was barefoot with Vaughn? If that was the case then I would say Tyson was easily cracking the 6'7" + mark. I thought it was funny when Tyson turned to Vince to notice how tall Vince himself was and Tyson then decided it better to stand his full height rather than maintain his usual slouch.
@Canson
True, in all possibility, we could be looking at a flat 6'7" for Tyson or a touch over. So far, nothing to suggest lower imho. The Magic photos are what they are and if there is no outstanding explanation for same I won't reach for one. However, all I can say is that the available evidence involving third parties (viz Magic and Fury posing separately with common subjects like Lennox Lewis etc.) is at notable odds with the actual vision of Magic and Fury together. Those third party photos suggest that Tyson and Magic should've stood much closer in height. Anyway, the most recent trigger to question Tyson's height was the recent presser with Wilder which, curiously, was actually the best Wilder ever stood in the face of Tyson but in all objectivity, sans questionable footwear, I have to remain with the best evidence of the ring face off.
@Mickie
So Fury was barefoot with Vaughn? If that was the case then I would say Tyson was easily cracking the 6'7" + mark. I thought it was funny when Tyson turned to Vince to notice how tall Vince himself was and Tyson then decided it better to stand his full height rather than maintain his usual slouch.
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Jun/21
@Pierre
Really, not to be rude but there is no other way to say it. Either you have ignored the explanation I gave you in order to perpetuate blind dismissal of the evidence and the due qualification provided or you lack inherent appreciation and/or technical understanding of FOV, perspectives, depth etc.
Note again, there is exactly as much vision of the walls left, right and in front of Fury as there is of the ceiling. I more or less already illustrated this in my previous post as it exemplifies garden variety FOV capture. According to your flawed perception and fixation re vision of the ceiling, for the walls to also be visible, the cameraman MUST'VE also angled his camera both left and right all at the same time and magically avoided blurring the image atop all that. LOL.
Obviously, that wasn't the case. I would say the camera height is acceptably close to Tyson's height. No matter and notwithstanding same, a neutral camera is actually one that is pointed flatly, neither left, right or up, down. The camera in this instance is obviously acceptably neutral.
The obvious distance of the camera from Fury allowed for the visual capture of the walls and ceiling in its FOV. You can see reference points along both walls to easily calculate that Fury is just in front of the door and also calculate how much further distance there is from Fury to the position of the camera.
I guess you didn't notice the partial capture of the side door and handle on the right hand side? Of course not. That indicates that the cameraman was standing at least as far back as that portion of the side door. In reality, that door is exactly the same size as the door in the background but appears much higher in the frame of reference due to its proximity to the cameraman. It also appears disproportionately high as compared to Tyson who is clearly standing well back from that door and just in front of the door in the background.
The photo you offered in comparison was not comparable at all. Both Tyson and his wife were clearly standing somewhat in front of the door frame in the background and the camera height obviously much lower and angled upwards. It's like I show you a picture of an actual whale, you refute me and say it's a shark and to back your point you produce a picture of a shark. I'm like,...wtf? LOL.
Yes, I do feel like I have repeated myself. Ah well.
Here's a nice live view of someone walking down a hallway with an obviously flat camera view. Pause at any time to breathe it in. What sorcery is this?
Click Here
@Pierre
Really, not to be rude but there is no other way to say it. Either you have ignored the explanation I gave you in order to perpetuate blind dismissal of the evidence and the due qualification provided or you lack inherent appreciation and/or technical understanding of FOV, perspectives, depth etc.
Note again, there is exactly as much vision of the walls left, right and in front of Fury as there is of the ceiling. I more or less already illustrated this in my previous post as it exemplifies garden variety FOV capture. According to your flawed perception and fixation re vision of the ceiling, for the walls to also be visible, the cameraman MUST'VE also angled his camera both left and right all at the same time and magically avoided blurring the image atop all that. LOL.
Obviously, that wasn't the case. I would say the camera height is acceptably close to Tyson's height. No matter and notwithstanding same, a neutral camera is actually one that is pointed flatly, neither left, right or up, down. The camera in this instance is obviously acceptably neutral.
The obvious distance of the camera from Fury allowed for the visual capture of the walls and ceiling in its FOV. You can see reference points along both walls to easily calculate that Fury is just in front of the door and also calculate how much further distance there is from Fury to the position of the camera.
I guess you didn't notice the partial capture of the side door and handle on the right hand side? Of course not. That indicates that the cameraman was standing at least as far back as that portion of the side door. In reality, that door is exactly the same size as the door in the background but appears much higher in the frame of reference due to its proximity to the cameraman. It also appears disproportionately high as compared to Tyson who is clearly standing well back from that door and just in front of the door in the background.
The photo you offered in comparison was not comparable at all. Both Tyson and his wife were clearly standing somewhat in front of the door frame in the background and the camera height obviously much lower and angled upwards. It's like I show you a picture of an actual whale, you refute me and say it's a shark and to back your point you produce a picture of a shark. I'm like,...wtf? LOL.
Yes, I do feel like I have repeated myself. Ah well.
Here's a nice live view of someone walking down a hallway with an obviously flat camera view. Pause at any time to breathe it in. What sorcery is this?
Click Here
JD1996 said on 29/Jun/21
@canson maybe if Tyson fury is 6’7” or 6’7 1/8” after all then Ronald cant be over 6’8” then since they were so close, maybe Ronald just isn’t the 6’9.5” people say he is. If Tyson fury is 6’7” then I believe Ronald to be no more than 6’8”. Tbh a legit 6’7” is a really tall height I should know.
If fury is 6’7” then wilder certainly is a little under 6’6” which he kinda looked with melo but then we don’t know if melo had a shoe advantage as we couldn’t see their feet and I’m not sure if melo was slightly favoured camera wise. Too make it even more complicated with fury he appears different heights all the time which make him Very tricky to truly guess his height he can really appear 6’6”-6’9” in any given photo or video.
@canson maybe if Tyson fury is 6’7” or 6’7 1/8” after all then Ronald cant be over 6’8” then since they were so close, maybe Ronald just isn’t the 6’9.5” people say he is. If Tyson fury is 6’7” then I believe Ronald to be no more than 6’8”. Tbh a legit 6’7” is a really tall height I should know.
If fury is 6’7” then wilder certainly is a little under 6’6” which he kinda looked with melo but then we don’t know if melo had a shoe advantage as we couldn’t see their feet and I’m not sure if melo was slightly favoured camera wise. Too make it even more complicated with fury he appears different heights all the time which make him Very tricky to truly guess his height he can really appear 6’6”-6’9” in any given photo or video.
Canson said on 29/Jun/21
@Pierre: you’ve got to be kidding me if you think that’s 2” between them. It’s not even close
@Mickie: out of bed he would manage 6’8 at least but not by the site standards. Probably 6’7-6’7.5 range
@Pierre: you’ve got to be kidding me if you think that’s 2” between them. It’s not even close
@Mickie: out of bed he would manage 6’8 at least but not by the site standards. Probably 6’7-6’7.5 range
Reece said on 29/Jun/21
Sill torn between the height of Fury.
Sill torn between the height of Fury.
Mickie said on 29/Jun/21
I don't know how you can look at those photos and have those takeaways, Pierre.
In the above photo Fury is clearly slouching. Price would still be taller even if they both stood fully straight, yes, but you really think the difference between them would increase rather than decrease? No way. I'd guess maybe Price would maintain a 1" advantage, although we don't know their footwear.
Secondly, in the next photo I don't see a huge camera advantage for Fury like you are pretending exists. They look close in height, with Price being the taller of the two. Price appears about half an inch taller here.
I don't know how you can look at those photos and have those takeaways, Pierre.
In the above photo Fury is clearly slouching. Price would still be taller even if they both stood fully straight, yes, but you really think the difference between them would increase rather than decrease? No way. I'd guess maybe Price would maintain a 1" advantage, although we don't know their footwear.
Secondly, in the next photo I don't see a huge camera advantage for Fury like you are pretending exists. They look close in height, with Price being the taller of the two. Price appears about half an inch taller here.
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 29/Jun/21
@Canson you think Pierre’s bad on this page you should see him on the Arnold Schwarzenegger page
@Canson you think Pierre’s bad on this page you should see him on the Arnold Schwarzenegger page
Canson said on 29/Jun/21
@JD1996: he’s not. Pierre is clinging on to the couple pictures with Magic where he looks shorter for dear life. Even the slight footwear advantage Magic has along with the Posture and camera advantages are being ignored. We can see when Fury tries to stand tall that he’s closer in height. Even if Magic is somehow taller it would be less than a cm difference between the two. And I only give Magic that possibility due to him still looking near his peak height in some pics along with the possibility Fury is only 6’7 or something more like 6’7 1/8”. 201cm. I don’t even believe Magic is still 6’7.5” these days but Fury is clearly taller than Carmelo Anthony and has close to an inch on Wilder. In reality, they could be similar or Fury even slightly taller than Magic. For what it’s worth, Fury is taller than Vitaly Klitschko but I don’t believe the latter to be a full 6’7” either. Maybe 6’6.75 but I don’t rule out 6’6.5”. He looks similar to Braun Strowmam with Fury
@JD1996: he’s not. Pierre is clinging on to the couple pictures with Magic where he looks shorter for dear life. Even the slight footwear advantage Magic has along with the Posture and camera advantages are being ignored. We can see when Fury tries to stand tall that he’s closer in height. Even if Magic is somehow taller it would be less than a cm difference between the two. And I only give Magic that possibility due to him still looking near his peak height in some pics along with the possibility Fury is only 6’7 or something more like 6’7 1/8”. 201cm. I don’t even believe Magic is still 6’7.5” these days but Fury is clearly taller than Carmelo Anthony and has close to an inch on Wilder. In reality, they could be similar or Fury even slightly taller than Magic. For what it’s worth, Fury is taller than Vitaly Klitschko but I don’t believe the latter to be a full 6’7” either. Maybe 6’6.75 but I don’t rule out 6’6.5”. He looks similar to Braun Strowmam with Fury
Pierre said on 29/Jun/21
Click Here Here David Price's legs are looking in relaxed posture,his head a lot in front of his shoulders,Tyson stands closer to the camera ,and the difference in the pic looks almost a complete inch.
Click Here Same pic with a zoom
Click Here here how much tall looks David's neck when he stands straighter...
Click Here Here Tyson again closer to the camera,low camera in direction to the ceiling give a good advantage to the closest man,David Price standing about as straight as in the first pic...
Click Here Here David Price's legs are looking in relaxed posture,his head a lot in front of his shoulders,Tyson stands closer to the camera ,and the difference in the pic looks almost a complete inch.
Click Here Same pic with a zoom
Click Here here how much tall looks David's neck when he stands straighter...
Click Here Here Tyson again closer to the camera,low camera in direction to the ceiling give a good advantage to the closest man,David Price standing about as straight as in the first pic...
Mickie said on 28/Jun/21
The latest staredown with Wilder is an example of why I think 6'7" is more likely than 6'8". I did see 3 cm between he and Wilder when they squared off with equal footwear, however. And we don't know for sure whether Wilder is closer to 6'6" or 6'6.5".
The latest staredown with Wilder is an example of why I think 6'7" is more likely than 6'8". I did see 3 cm between he and Wilder when they squared off with equal footwear, however. And we don't know for sure whether Wilder is closer to 6'6" or 6'6.5".
Pierre said on 28/Jun/21
@Tall in the saddle = If this camera was as high as the top of Tyson's head(so if the camera was neutral) you could not see as much the aeration grid on the ceiling....Plus here I don't know how you can precisely estimate the distance between Tyson and the door...There is one thing that is sure Tyson stands closer to the camera than the door ...
My guess about Tyson, always 6"6' range.
@Tall in the saddle = If this camera was as high as the top of Tyson's head(so if the camera was neutral) you could not see as much the aeration grid on the ceiling....Plus here I don't know how you can precisely estimate the distance between Tyson and the door...There is one thing that is sure Tyson stands closer to the camera than the door ...
My guess about Tyson, always 6"6' range.
JD1996 said on 28/Jun/21
Problem is he looks over 6’8” with Ronald if he really is 206-7 cm tall Click Here
I don’t get just 6’7” from that they look almost the same height to me looking well over 6’7” through the entire video.
Problem is he looks over 6’8” with Ronald if he really is 206-7 cm tall Click Here
I don’t get just 6’7” from that they look almost the same height to me looking well over 6’7” through the entire video.
Mickie said on 28/Jun/21
Personally I don't think he's 6'8" unless you're measuring in the morning. I think he's 6'7" or a fraction over that mid day.
Personally I don't think he's 6'8" unless you're measuring in the morning. I think he's 6'7" or a fraction over that mid day.
Canson said on 28/Jun/21
@Chaos Control: Viper guesses a lot of celebs lower than Rob but I do for some too. But he actually has some reasonable guesses for many celebs. Lol to what Pierre said, if Viper guessed Fury at 6’6 and Momoa guessed him 6’7 (reversing the scenario) I’m willing to bet Pierre wouldn’t be saying Momoa is a better guesser than him. It seems Pierre said that only because Momoa’s estimate aligns with his more than Viper’s.
@Chaos Control: Viper guesses a lot of celebs lower than Rob but I do for some too. But he actually has some reasonable guesses for many celebs. Lol to what Pierre said, if Viper guessed Fury at 6’6 and Momoa guessed him 6’7 (reversing the scenario) I’m willing to bet Pierre wouldn’t be saying Momoa is a better guesser than him. It seems Pierre said that only because Momoa’s estimate aligns with his more than Viper’s.
Canson said on 28/Jun/21
@Chaos Control: yea I would go about 6’7-6’7.5 range. Likely in that 201-202 range. But to be fair, a 6’8 guess is more reasonable than 6’6 flat. Even though I don’t advocate the morning measurement, he would measure 6’8 out of bed easily
@Chaos Control: yea I would go about 6’7-6’7.5 range. Likely in that 201-202 range. But to be fair, a 6’8 guess is more reasonable than 6’6 flat. Even though I don’t advocate the morning measurement, he would measure 6’8 out of bed easily
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 28/Jun/21
I’d pick 6’7 over 6’8 but there’s not much in it. 6’7 3/8 maybe
I’d pick 6’7 over 6’8 but there’s not much in it. 6’7 3/8 maybe
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Jun/21
@Pierre
There's a thing called a field of view (FOV) shared by both the human eye and cameras.
While still pointed evenly and directly at Fury (not upwards), the further back the camera, the more it captures in its FOV, such as the ceiling and other objects left and right of center, a testament to Tyson's actual distance from the camera.
Due respect, but that's outlandish to suggest that he is closer to the camera than the door way he is standing just in front of. Anyway, the FOV is similar to the circular radiation of light from a torch, the circle increasing when you move further back, without tilting the torch the left, right, up or down. Try it down a hall way and you will see. You asked for an explanation and this nails it. :)
Momoa, a good judge? At one time claimed 6'5" for himself and seems to ignore the heels that give him footwear advantage over most other people. Even if Momoa has settled on 6'4" for himself, he's suggesting he only perceived 1" to 2" max. difference between Tyson and himself. LOL. There was 3" at the least. Aqua Man's estimate doesn't hold water.
Conversely I could say Wlad is a much better judge than Momoa and that he is in fact a master of height estimation. He's far more acquainted with Fury in the ring and out, and notwithstanding his own "lifting" which he knows bridges the gap, Wlad realistically has Fury at about 6'7 1/2", equal to Wach, another fighter with whom Wlad is well acquainted.
@Pierre
There's a thing called a field of view (FOV) shared by both the human eye and cameras.
While still pointed evenly and directly at Fury (not upwards), the further back the camera, the more it captures in its FOV, such as the ceiling and other objects left and right of center, a testament to Tyson's actual distance from the camera.
Due respect, but that's outlandish to suggest that he is closer to the camera than the door way he is standing just in front of. Anyway, the FOV is similar to the circular radiation of light from a torch, the circle increasing when you move further back, without tilting the torch the left, right, up or down. Try it down a hall way and you will see. You asked for an explanation and this nails it. :)
Momoa, a good judge? At one time claimed 6'5" for himself and seems to ignore the heels that give him footwear advantage over most other people. Even if Momoa has settled on 6'4" for himself, he's suggesting he only perceived 1" to 2" max. difference between Tyson and himself. LOL. There was 3" at the least. Aqua Man's estimate doesn't hold water.
Conversely I could say Wlad is a much better judge than Momoa and that he is in fact a master of height estimation. He's far more acquainted with Fury in the ring and out, and notwithstanding his own "lifting" which he knows bridges the gap, Wlad realistically has Fury at about 6'7 1/2", equal to Wach, another fighter with whom Wlad is well acquainted.
Canson said on 27/Jun/21
@Pierre: I doubt he was on his Fury assessment
@Pierre: I doubt he was on his Fury assessment
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 26/Jun/21
@Pierre even Viper agrees Fury is 6’7+ and (no offence Viper) he’s known for guessing people below their listings
@Pierre even Viper agrees Fury is 6’7+ and (no offence Viper) he’s known for guessing people below their listings
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 26/Jun/21
Pierre said on 26/Jun/21
@viper I believe Jason Momoa is a better guesser than you about Tyson height.
Big words from you
Pierre said on 26/Jun/21
@viper I believe Jason Momoa is a better guesser than you about Tyson height.
Big words from you
JD1996 said on 26/Jun/21
I still think it’s not impossible that he could be 6’8”
I still think it’s not impossible that he could be 6’8”
JD1996 said on 26/Jun/21
No way is Tyson only 6’6” lol
No way is Tyson only 6’6” lol
Mickie said on 26/Jun/21
IIRC, Tyson didn't have shoes on when met Vince Vaughn there. You can see in the very next clip Tyson meeting Lane Johnson who measured exactly 6'6". Tyson looks at least an inch taller to me, it could be more but it's hard to say as the posture and camera angles vary there too.
I think Klitschko had a better guess of Tyson's height than Jason Momoa, when he claimed Tyson was comparable to M. Wach.
IIRC, Tyson didn't have shoes on when met Vince Vaughn there. You can see in the very next clip Tyson meeting Lane Johnson who measured exactly 6'6". Tyson looks at least an inch taller to me, it could be more but it's hard to say as the posture and camera angles vary there too.
I think Klitschko had a better guess of Tyson's height than Jason Momoa, when he claimed Tyson was comparable to M. Wach.
Pierre said on 26/Jun/21
@viper I believe Jason Momoa is a better guesser than you about Tyson height.
@viper I believe Jason Momoa is a better guesser than you about Tyson height.
viper said on 25/Jun/21
Some years ago I had a cow-worker who I thought was 6-6 at first glance. I said how tall are you 6-6, he said 6-7.5-6-8.
Then I realized yeah, I was off and he was 6-7 absolute minimum.
Not as off as Momoa saying 6-5-6-6
Some years ago I had a cow-worker who I thought was 6-6 at first glance. I said how tall are you 6-6, he said 6-7.5-6-8.
Then I realized yeah, I was off and he was 6-7 absolute minimum.
Not as off as Momoa saying 6-5-6-6
viper said on 25/Jun/21
With that door you gotta think 6-7 absolute minimum.
I'd bet all the money I have he's at least 6-7 and not 6-6 like Pierre says.
He may even be as high as the 6-7.5 listing here
With that door you gotta think 6-7 absolute minimum.
I'd bet all the money I have he's at least 6-7 and not 6-6 like Pierre says.
He may even be as high as the 6-7.5 listing here
Pierre said on 25/Jun/21
@Tall In The Saddle = If the angle of the camera was neutral in your pic how can you explain we can see the ceiling as much ....The angle of the camera clearly advantage Tyson who stands more or less closer to the camera than the door .
@Tall In The Saddle = If the angle of the camera was neutral in your pic how can you explain we can see the ceiling as much ....The angle of the camera clearly advantage Tyson who stands more or less closer to the camera than the door .
Canson said on 25/Jun/21
@Chaos Control and JD1996: The average doorway may hover around 6’8”. I know newer construction here in the US may vary but otherwise accounting for very old houses, it is only 6’7” in some places
@Chaos Control and JD1996: The average doorway may hover around 6’8”. I know newer construction here in the US may vary but otherwise accounting for very old houses, it is only 6’7” in some places
Tall In The Saddle said on 25/Jun/21
Well, I managed to find the clip with Fury meeting Vince Vaughn. Difficult to locate again because the video title doesn't mention Vaughn.
Anyway, when they first come together I notice that Tyson's posture is relaxed as usual but then I think he notices how tall Vince stands himself so Tyson then decides to straighten up to make his advantage clear. When he does, I would give Tyson about 2 1/2" advantage at the least. Tyson is closer to camera but I've tried to account for that. Go to the 30 sec mark. Interested to know what all you guys think.
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Well, I managed to find the clip with Fury meeting Vince Vaughn. Difficult to locate again because the video title doesn't mention Vaughn.
Anyway, when they first come together I notice that Tyson's posture is relaxed as usual but then I think he notices how tall Vince stands himself so Tyson then decides to straighten up to make his advantage clear. When he does, I would give Tyson about 2 1/2" advantage at the least. Tyson is closer to camera but I've tried to account for that. Go to the 30 sec mark. Interested to know what all you guys think.
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Mickie said on 25/Jun/21
Door heights are variable, the one Tyson is standing in front of looks like it's near the ceiling. But we can't say for sure what height it really is.
Door heights are variable, the one Tyson is standing in front of looks like it's near the ceiling. But we can't say for sure what height it really is.
Tall In The Saddle said on 25/Jun/21
@Pierre
Your photo is not the same thing. JD’s photo shows Tyson standing just in front of the door frame and the camera height is basically equal to Tyson’s own height. In your photo Tyson’s wife is standing well in front of the door frame, check the placement of her feet on the tiles relative to the door way for an accurate gave. The camera height is also markedly lower than JD’s photo. Too much knee jerk bias in your approach bro.
@Pierre
Your photo is not the same thing. JD’s photo shows Tyson standing just in front of the door frame and the camera height is basically equal to Tyson’s own height. In your photo Tyson’s wife is standing well in front of the door frame, check the placement of her feet on the tiles relative to the door way for an accurate gave. The camera height is also markedly lower than JD’s photo. Too much knee jerk bias in your approach bro.
JD1996 said on 25/Jun/21
I don’t know it looks similar to my door when I was at uni that was 6’9” it’s really hard to tell unless you measured it or something just thought it was Worth posting on here since its a height related website I know it annoys a lot of people when he seems over 6’6” or 6’7” or something though. Probably did when he looked about the same height as Ronald who’s supposed to be 6’9-9.5” lol Click Here so Ronald can be over 6’6” or 6’7” either now then.
I don’t know it looks similar to my door when I was at uni that was 6’9” it’s really hard to tell unless you measured it or something just thought it was Worth posting on here since its a height related website I know it annoys a lot of people when he seems over 6’6” or 6’7” or something though. Probably did when he looked about the same height as Ronald who’s supposed to be 6’9-9.5” lol Click Here so Ronald can be over 6’6” or 6’7” either now then.
Tall In The Saddle said on 24/Jun/21
@JD
Apparently the standard doorway heights for the UK and US are about 6’6” and 6’8” respectively. There are some exceptions to those rules of course. I should add that apparently Scotland run with an approx. 6’8” standard (Rob might vouch for or reject?).
The photo of Fury was taken when he was prepping for a fight held in Ireland so I assume he is in the UK. Whatever the size of the doorway that looks to be a relatively low ceiling. All in all, Tyson is stand sufficiently tall without being fully straight. Footwear indeterminate.
When Tyson allegedly stated he is 6’7”, the comment was made to opponent Otto Wallin who is listed as 6’5 1/2” himself and sometimes just 6’5”. IMO, Fury had 2” plus during their presser face off, easily found on YouTube.
Interesting that while Fury has claimed 6’9” he’s never tried to lift to his claim. Rather, he generally wears moderate heels and soles to look his true height and it’s obvious he was never 6’9”.he treats it more like a WWE claim, a professional white lie. If it floats all good but if you call me out on it, no drama.
I know Wlad has claimed himself taller at times but Wlad has at times lifted himself beyond even his highest claims. I don’t think Wlad is trying to fool anyone, rather, I think he just likes to stand equal to or taller than his opposition.
I finally located a clip of Fury actually standing alongside Vince Vaughn. Taking Vince at 6’4 1/2” Fury stands at least 6’7” IMO. I found the clip only a few days ago but do you think I could find it again? Arrgghh! Anyone else who can, please do. :)
@JD
Apparently the standard doorway heights for the UK and US are about 6’6” and 6’8” respectively. There are some exceptions to those rules of course. I should add that apparently Scotland run with an approx. 6’8” standard (Rob might vouch for or reject?).
The photo of Fury was taken when he was prepping for a fight held in Ireland so I assume he is in the UK. Whatever the size of the doorway that looks to be a relatively low ceiling. All in all, Tyson is stand sufficiently tall without being fully straight. Footwear indeterminate.
When Tyson allegedly stated he is 6’7”, the comment was made to opponent Otto Wallin who is listed as 6’5 1/2” himself and sometimes just 6’5”. IMO, Fury had 2” plus during their presser face off, easily found on YouTube.
Interesting that while Fury has claimed 6’9” he’s never tried to lift to his claim. Rather, he generally wears moderate heels and soles to look his true height and it’s obvious he was never 6’9”.he treats it more like a WWE claim, a professional white lie. If it floats all good but if you call me out on it, no drama.
I know Wlad has claimed himself taller at times but Wlad has at times lifted himself beyond even his highest claims. I don’t think Wlad is trying to fool anyone, rather, I think he just likes to stand equal to or taller than his opposition.
I finally located a clip of Fury actually standing alongside Vince Vaughn. Taking Vince at 6’4 1/2” Fury stands at least 6’7” IMO. I found the clip only a few days ago but do you think I could find it again? Arrgghh! Anyone else who can, please do. :)
Pierre said on 24/Jun/21
D1996 said on 23/Jun/21
Is this a 6’9” door assuming it must be as it looks close to the ceiling also assuming he is wearing shoes but looks easily the same height. Click Here
Maybe the door is 6"9', Tyson stands closer to the camera than the door and the camera is low and in direction to the ceiling that give a big advantage to Tyson.
Click Here Here same thing ,the girl stands closer to the camera than the door,the camera also is advantageous here (low and in direction to the ceiling)and finally the girl looks almost same height as the door,that is very probably not the case in reality.
D1996 said on 23/Jun/21
Is this a 6’9” door assuming it must be as it looks close to the ceiling also assuming he is wearing shoes but looks easily the same height. Click Here
Maybe the door is 6"9', Tyson stands closer to the camera than the door and the camera is low and in direction to the ceiling that give a big advantage to Tyson.
Click Here Here same thing ,the girl stands closer to the camera than the door,the camera also is advantageous here (low and in direction to the ceiling)and finally the girl looks almost same height as the door,that is very probably not the case in reality.
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 24/Jun/21
@JD1996 I think American doors average 6’8, I’m not sure I need an American poster to confirm. Here in Britain they’re 6’6
@JD1996 I think American doors average 6’8, I’m not sure I need an American poster to confirm. Here in Britain they’re 6’6
JD1996 said on 23/Jun/21
Is this a 6’9” door assuming it must be as it looks close to the ceiling also assuming he is wearing shoes but looks easily the same height. Click Here
Is this a 6’9” door assuming it must be as it looks close to the ceiling also assuming he is wearing shoes but looks easily the same height. Click Here
JD1996 said on 23/Jun/21
Yeah maybe Ajagba is more around 6’5.5” rounded to 6’6” most of the time and occasionally billed 6’5”.
Yeah maybe Ajagba is more around 6’5.5” rounded to 6’6” most of the time and occasionally billed 6’5”.
Mickie said on 22/Jun/21
Yeah I don't think Ajagba is a legit 6'6", he's looking 2" shorter than Fury even with a half inch footwear advantage. He's been billed at 6'6" a lot but also been occasionally billed at 6'5" in the past, that could be closer to reality.
Yeah I don't think Ajagba is a legit 6'6", he's looking 2" shorter than Fury even with a half inch footwear advantage. He's been billed at 6'6" a lot but also been occasionally billed at 6'5" in the past, that could be closer to reality.
JD1996 said on 21/Jun/21
@mickie as the photo is fury looks 2 inches taller but we also need to bare in mind fury is barefoot and the other 6’6” guy is in shoes that probably give him 05-0.75 inches, considering that you would think fury is close to his boxing listing.
@mickie as the photo is fury looks 2 inches taller but we also need to bare in mind fury is barefoot and the other 6’6” guy is in shoes that probably give him 05-0.75 inches, considering that you would think fury is close to his boxing listing.
Mickie said on 21/Jun/21
Funny thing how they can look eye to eye one press conference or like this the next: Click Here
Personally I believe seeing them in the ring again may be helpful to lock in an estimate of their heights. I am slightly suspicious of Wilder's footwear in the last presser. Not only did his knees look higher than Tysons but he managed to look around the same height after being 3 cm shorter in the ring. But as others say, of course I will reevaluate if/when better evidence comes to fruition. Originally I'm 2018 I was arguing Tyson was about 0.75" to an inch at most taller than Deontay, and I reconsidered my opinion after watching them in the ring to 1.25". Maybe something similar could happen in either direction.
Funny thing how they can look eye to eye one press conference or like this the next: Click Here
Personally I believe seeing them in the ring again may be helpful to lock in an estimate of their heights. I am slightly suspicious of Wilder's footwear in the last presser. Not only did his knees look higher than Tysons but he managed to look around the same height after being 3 cm shorter in the ring. But as others say, of course I will reevaluate if/when better evidence comes to fruition. Originally I'm 2018 I was arguing Tyson was about 0.75" to an inch at most taller than Deontay, and I reconsidered my opinion after watching them in the ring to 1.25". Maybe something similar could happen in either direction.
Canson said on 20/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle: that’s interesting. I’m looking forward to the next round! I wonder if Wilder really is 6’6.5 if that’s the case or if he’s perhaps 6’6.25 like Carmelo and Fury is 6’7”. Either way, he’s not as low as 6’6” like Pierre is saying he is lol. I agree with both you and JD1996 though. Probably more of a difference inside the ring than out of it
@Tall in the Saddle: that’s interesting. I’m looking forward to the next round! I wonder if Wilder really is 6’6.5 if that’s the case or if he’s perhaps 6’6.25 like Carmelo and Fury is 6’7”. Either way, he’s not as low as 6’6” like Pierre is saying he is lol. I agree with both you and JD1996 though. Probably more of a difference inside the ring than out of it
Mickie said on 20/Jun/21
This video shows a still shot of a barefoot Fury looking quite a bit taller than 6'6" listed Effe Ajagba. Click Here
Ajagba and 6'4.5"-ish Lenox Lewis here: Click Here
This video shows a still shot of a barefoot Fury looking quite a bit taller than 6'6" listed Effe Ajagba. Click Here
Ajagba and 6'4.5"-ish Lenox Lewis here: Click Here
JD1996 said on 19/Jun/21
@Tall in the saddle Yes at the most recent press it only looked 1-2 cm difference between the two but in the ring it’s always seems to be between 3-4 cm difference.
@Tall in the saddle Yes at the most recent press it only looked 1-2 cm difference between the two but in the ring it’s always seems to be between 3-4 cm difference.
Tall In The Saddle said on 18/Jun/21
To be fair, the recent presser has Fury appearing barely 1” taller than Wilder, possibly more likely Fury appears about 3/4”!taller.
No mistake though, Fury is standing taller. When assessing the newest piece of evidence, we all take a certain degree of predisposed opinion re height, generally based on preceding majority evidence. On the surface I can’t say there is necessarily clear visible evidence of footwear advantage to Wilder. I can only say I might suspect so because, based on previous quality evidence, Wilder’s height proximity to Fury appears irregular to me at least. As such I then wonder about possible lifting but the recent visual evidence still has to be respected in its own right otherwise we ourselves might guilty of exhibiting bias and prone to immediately trying to dismiss and explain away what we can see.
I stand by the view that all possible and potential footwear inequalities, visible or not, are removed when they face off in the ring. If Wilder was somehow able to appear as close in height in the ring as he did at the recent presser I would reconsider my position re both men.
However, I will say I doubt very much that Wilder will appear any taller than he did in their last ring face off. That’s not the only evidence from the last fight either. Through out the fight Fury can be seen to maintain the same advantage as he did in the face off.
To be fair, the recent presser has Fury appearing barely 1” taller than Wilder, possibly more likely Fury appears about 3/4”!taller.
No mistake though, Fury is standing taller. When assessing the newest piece of evidence, we all take a certain degree of predisposed opinion re height, generally based on preceding majority evidence. On the surface I can’t say there is necessarily clear visible evidence of footwear advantage to Wilder. I can only say I might suspect so because, based on previous quality evidence, Wilder’s height proximity to Fury appears irregular to me at least. As such I then wonder about possible lifting but the recent visual evidence still has to be respected in its own right otherwise we ourselves might guilty of exhibiting bias and prone to immediately trying to dismiss and explain away what we can see.
I stand by the view that all possible and potential footwear inequalities, visible or not, are removed when they face off in the ring. If Wilder was somehow able to appear as close in height in the ring as he did at the recent presser I would reconsider my position re both men.
However, I will say I doubt very much that Wilder will appear any taller than he did in their last ring face off. That’s not the only evidence from the last fight either. Through out the fight Fury can be seen to maintain the same advantage as he did in the face off.
Mickie said on 18/Jun/21
The heel of Wilder's shoe was thicker, for sure, but in addition to that does Wilder's foot look a little funny here? You can't see the entirety of his shoe here (little heel showing) but from what you can see of the forefoot it looks like a bit of a bulge... But it could be a high set arch rather than a lift? Click Here
The heel of Wilder's shoe was thicker, for sure, but in addition to that does Wilder's foot look a little funny here? You can't see the entirety of his shoe here (little heel showing) but from what you can see of the forefoot it looks like a bit of a bulge... But it could be a high set arch rather than a lift? Click Here
Gman42 said on 17/Jun/21
I wanna amend my statement, I watched the latest stare down on the (Top Rank YT video version), which had a great camera angle for viewing height. The difference between them was less than 1 inch, but I would still give the edge to Tyson.
I wanna amend my statement, I watched the latest stare down on the (Top Rank YT video version), which had a great camera angle for viewing height. The difference between them was less than 1 inch, but I would still give the edge to Tyson.
Pierre said on 17/Jun/21
@Mickie said on 15/June=
here are their respective sneakers Click Here Deontay's foot isn't looking higher than Tyson's foot here.
Click Here = here their eyes are looking the same height,but Tyson's head is looking up a little bit more than Deontay imo .Other= Click Here
@Mickie said on 15/June=
here are their respective sneakers Click Here Deontay's foot isn't looking higher than Tyson's foot here.
Click Here = here their eyes are looking the same height,but Tyson's head is looking up a little bit more than Deontay imo .Other= Click Here
Pierre said on 17/Jun/21
@Tall in the Saddle = Lol in both pics Stephen Merchant has a terrible posture,the second pic I posted was only for the shoes.In the first pic his neck stands almost horizontal.And = Stephen's sneakers even with a wide white band are flat,I remind you sneakers type Converse have the same wide band like here,so around the feet,and are giving you less than 0.75 inch ....
@Tall in the Saddle = Lol in both pics Stephen Merchant has a terrible posture,the second pic I posted was only for the shoes.In the first pic his neck stands almost horizontal.And = Stephen's sneakers even with a wide white band are flat,I remind you sneakers type Converse have the same wide band like here,so around the feet,and are giving you less than 0.75 inch ....
Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Jun/21
@Pierre
Pierre said 14/Jun/21
First off, do you have Wilder at a flat 6’6”? I’m not sure of your estimate re Deontay. Moving from that....
Well....you can see Tyson’s posture is clearly inferior to Wilder’s. Fury left leg is forward and bent. Much more relaxed posture than Wilder’s.
Having said that, yes, Wilder is higher in that particular frame of reference. Can’t see Wilder’s feet in that moment though, possibility of slight levering for the photo op. We’re only arguing for 3/4” to 1” advantage for Tyson, so full tip toe not required to gain the edge.
Both men guilty of levering on their toes on occasion, Tyson actually initiated same in their recent presser contradicting my previous assertion, haha. Annoying for us when trying to compare them. LOL.
I see Wilder is wearing his magic golden boots (custom?) vs Tyson’s conventional dress shoes. Could be something up there with those boots and others of exact same style Wilder has worn previously.
During their fight, from face off through to final round there is not one occasion in which Wilder holds any advantage over Fury similar to the advantage in the photo you’ve offered. Rather, Fury is proven the taller man through out. Of course in the ring their footwear is equal for all intents and purposes so there are no obvious or hidden lifting to be qualified. One only has to look at the bare difference in their heights and Fury is clearly the taller man.
@Pierre
Pierre said 14/Jun/21
First off, do you have Wilder at a flat 6’6”? I’m not sure of your estimate re Deontay. Moving from that....
Well....you can see Tyson’s posture is clearly inferior to Wilder’s. Fury left leg is forward and bent. Much more relaxed posture than Wilder’s.
Having said that, yes, Wilder is higher in that particular frame of reference. Can’t see Wilder’s feet in that moment though, possibility of slight levering for the photo op. We’re only arguing for 3/4” to 1” advantage for Tyson, so full tip toe not required to gain the edge.
Both men guilty of levering on their toes on occasion, Tyson actually initiated same in their recent presser contradicting my previous assertion, haha. Annoying for us when trying to compare them. LOL.
I see Wilder is wearing his magic golden boots (custom?) vs Tyson’s conventional dress shoes. Could be something up there with those boots and others of exact same style Wilder has worn previously.
During their fight, from face off through to final round there is not one occasion in which Wilder holds any advantage over Fury similar to the advantage in the photo you’ve offered. Rather, Fury is proven the taller man through out. Of course in the ring their footwear is equal for all intents and purposes so there are no obvious or hidden lifting to be qualified. One only has to look at the bare difference in their heights and Fury is clearly the taller man.
Mickie said on 16/Jun/21
Pierre what are you talking about Tyson's head does not look oddly bigger than Carmelo's. You must be confusing that with your favored Magic Johnson photos.
Pierre what are you talking about Tyson's head does not look oddly bigger than Carmelo's. You must be confusing that with your favored Magic Johnson photos.
Gman42 said on 16/Jun/21
I thought Tyson looked 1 in taller than Deontay at yesterday's press conference, but I did not see the footwear.
I thought Tyson looked 1 in taller than Deontay at yesterday's press conference, but I did not see the footwear.
Jake said on 16/Jun/21
During there most recent stand off I really do think Fury struggled to look an inch taller than Wilder, though Wilder may have had a footwear advantage. Is 6’7” flat a possibility Rob? Or perhaps just a touch over 6’7”?
During there most recent stand off I really do think Fury struggled to look an inch taller than Wilder, though Wilder may have had a footwear advantage. Is 6’7” flat a possibility Rob? Or perhaps just a touch over 6’7”?
Reece said on 16/Jun/21
Gonna say Fury 6-7.5 and Wilder 6-6.5.
Gonna say Fury 6-7.5 and Wilder 6-6.5.
Mickie said on 15/Jun/21
Wilder held up better than usual in their latest staredown, there was not much difference between them. Although - it seemed like he was getting some generous assistance in the footwear department. Here is a view with their footwear visible. Note how much high Deontay's knee looks than Tyson's, that's where I think the footwear advantage is visible. Click Here
Wilder held up better than usual in their latest staredown, there was not much difference between them. Although - it seemed like he was getting some generous assistance in the footwear department. Here is a view with their footwear visible. Note how much high Deontay's knee looks than Tyson's, that's where I think the footwear advantage is visible. Click Here
miko said on 15/Jun/21
Fury looked slightly taller 0'5' in the most recent staredown but Wilder was in quite thick trainers.
No 'advantageous' footwear for Fury as someone will likely pipe in with.
Looked like 6'7.5 vs 6'6.5 to me.
Fury looked slightly taller 0'5' in the most recent staredown but Wilder was in quite thick trainers.
No 'advantageous' footwear for Fury as someone will likely pipe in with.
Looked like 6'7.5 vs 6'6.5 to me.
Tall In The Saddle said on 15/Jun/21
@Pierre
Re Merchant to Johnson to Fury.
Pierre said “Well....”. Well what? LOL.
Merchant has discernible thickness comprising the whole outsole of his sneakers. They are NOT flat per se and they elevate better than just a heel of equal thickness.
Merchant’s posture is little worse, if at all, than Fury’s own posture alongside Johnson. First and second pic, Merchant is closer to camera. Third pic Fury and Johnson are the same distance from camera though Fury’s stance is obviously splayed, as if stepping into the shot from a posterior position.
Wait...there’s more. In first and second photos Merchant’s eye level is below the top of Johnson’s head, even though Merchant is closer to camera and even though Dwayne’s head is clearly tilted in the second shot. All postures have to be accounted for, not just those that suit a particular argument.
In the third pic Fury’s eye level is above Dwayne’s head. Dwaynes is standing straight up too btw while Fury is hunched and, repeat, legs are splayed. And, repeat, Fury and Johnson are equidistant from camera while Merchant stood that much closer to camera than Dwayne in their photos.
True, Fury’s shoes appear to have greater elevation than Merchant’s but subtracting the difference, Fury is still standing discernibly taller than Merchant as compared to Johnson. So, IMO, they gel nicely for their respectively listings.
Well...nothing more to say. :)
@Pierre
Re Merchant to Johnson to Fury.
Pierre said “Well....”. Well what? LOL.
Merchant has discernible thickness comprising the whole outsole of his sneakers. They are NOT flat per se and they elevate better than just a heel of equal thickness.
Merchant’s posture is little worse, if at all, than Fury’s own posture alongside Johnson. First and second pic, Merchant is closer to camera. Third pic Fury and Johnson are the same distance from camera though Fury’s stance is obviously splayed, as if stepping into the shot from a posterior position.
Wait...there’s more. In first and second photos Merchant’s eye level is below the top of Johnson’s head, even though Merchant is closer to camera and even though Dwayne’s head is clearly tilted in the second shot. All postures have to be accounted for, not just those that suit a particular argument.
In the third pic Fury’s eye level is above Dwayne’s head. Dwaynes is standing straight up too btw while Fury is hunched and, repeat, legs are splayed. And, repeat, Fury and Johnson are equidistant from camera while Merchant stood that much closer to camera than Dwayne in their photos.
True, Fury’s shoes appear to have greater elevation than Merchant’s but subtracting the difference, Fury is still standing discernibly taller than Merchant as compared to Johnson. So, IMO, they gel nicely for their respectively listings.
Well...nothing more to say. :)
Pierre said on 14/Jun/21
@Canson Tyson's head looks two times bigger than Carmelo's head here Tyson stands closer to the camera.And to the opposite you can see by their shoulders than Carmelo stands closer to the camera than Magic here,plus the camera beeing low give him a good advantage.This comparisons with Shaq /Deontay / Magic also are terrible , this guys standing each in different postures.
How can you explain Hafthor(6"7.5') sleeping in this famous pic still looks taller than Braun's cap while Tyson (when around same posture as Braun of course ) looks only maybe 2 cm taller than him...(And his sneakers are looking even a bit more advantageous than braun's sneakers...)
@Canson Tyson's head looks two times bigger than Carmelo's head here Tyson stands closer to the camera.And to the opposite you can see by their shoulders than Carmelo stands closer to the camera than Magic here,plus the camera beeing low give him a good advantage.This comparisons with Shaq /Deontay / Magic also are terrible , this guys standing each in different postures.
How can you explain Hafthor(6"7.5') sleeping in this famous pic still looks taller than Braun's cap while Tyson (when around same posture as Braun of course ) looks only maybe 2 cm taller than him...(And his sneakers are looking even a bit more advantageous than braun's sneakers...)
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 14/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 10/Jun/21
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
No because if Deontay was standing flat footed he’d be over an inch shorter
Other possibility= Deontay wasn't tiptoeing and Tyson is 6"6' ....=here try to guess who is the guy who is tiptoeing to standing taller than the other one = Click Here oups
Other possibility.... there was discreet footwear advantage that you couldn’t see due to the video only showing them chest up
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 10/Jun/21
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
No because if Deontay was standing flat footed he’d be over an inch shorter
Other possibility= Deontay wasn't tiptoeing and Tyson is 6"6' ....=here try to guess who is the guy who is tiptoeing to standing taller than the other one = Click Here oups
Other possibility.... there was discreet footwear advantage that you couldn’t see due to the video only showing them chest up
Pierre said on 14/Jun/21
@Tall in the saddle = Deontay advantaged with his flat sneakers?! ...Deontay's sneakers are tipical sneakers with poor sole that give you 2 cm....Leather shoes with classic heel like Tyson's shoes are giving you at least a good fraction more than this sneakers ...
Here it will be hard imo to argue Deontay stands closer to the camera = Click Here
Shoes = Click Here Deontay sneakers max same help as Tyson's shoes.
Well...
@Tall in the saddle = Deontay advantaged with his flat sneakers?! ...Deontay's sneakers are tipical sneakers with poor sole that give you 2 cm....Leather shoes with classic heel like Tyson's shoes are giving you at least a good fraction more than this sneakers ...
Here it will be hard imo to argue Deontay stands closer to the camera = Click Here
Shoes = Click Here Deontay sneakers max same help as Tyson's shoes.
Well...
Pierre said on 14/Jun/21
@Tall in the saddle = Deontay advantaged with his flat sneakers?! ...Deontay's sneakers are tipical sneakers with poor sole that give you 2 cm....Leather shoes with classic heel like Tyson's shoes are giving you at least a good fraction more than this sneakers ...
@Tall in the saddle = Deontay advantaged with his flat sneakers?! ...Deontay's sneakers are tipical sneakers with poor sole that give you 2 cm....Leather shoes with classic heel like Tyson's shoes are giving you at least a good fraction more than this sneakers ...
Raging said on 13/Jun/21
I must say that he's incredibly fast for a guy his height and size, always very quick to run away from a Joshua fight, he probably runs faster than a prime Usain Bolt anytime he sees Joshua. On his height, I give him 6'7¼, strong 6'7 guy
I must say that he's incredibly fast for a guy his height and size, always very quick to run away from a Joshua fight, he probably runs faster than a prime Usain Bolt anytime he sees Joshua. On his height, I give him 6'7¼, strong 6'7 guy
Hyper said on 13/Jun/21
Rob, who would you give an edge to, Tyson Fury or Lebron James?
Editor Rob
Rob, who would you give an edge to, Tyson Fury or Lebron James?
Editor Robboth may well end up the same range
Canson said on 13/Jun/21
Pierre said on 6/Jun/21
Canson said on 6/Jun/21
@Pierre: no disrespect, but if this were a course in college for credit, and the pictures were a requirement to support/supplement your estimate, you would fail the course miserably
yeah I understand you =No direspect,but if I had to credit Tyson Fury like a 6"7' guy I will take your old pictures on ring by arguing both had same shoes , and by occulting other parameters ...
@Pierre: old pictures? What about the ones you have recycled and used at least 15 times with Magic. Yes Magic has a footwear advantage and even slight camera in one pic at least. Fury doesn’t stand his tallest very often either. For good measure. Here’s Wilder with Shaq
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Shaq with Magic
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Wilder with Fury you’ve seen and clear Fury is taller
Carmelo with Fury. As stated many times, I’ve seen Melo in person and standing right next to him he was “about” 2” taller than me. Clear as day that Fury is leaning and is clearly taller than Melo. Melo is close to Wilder in height. Both 6’6-6’6.5 range to be very broad more likely 6’6.25” max for melo
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Just for poops and giggles, here is Melo with Magic. If I were to use this picture as evidence, Fury would be taller than Magic being Melo looks almost as tall as Magic in the pic whereas Fury is clearly taller than Melo and has more of a difference than Magic has on Melo
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6’11-6’11.5 Tyson Chandler with 6’9.75 Eddy Curry, Scottie Pippen and 6’6” Jalen Rose. I left Pippen’s height blank because he’s clearly not 6’7.5 like drafted. He may have been 6’7 flat but no taller. Chandler may be 6’11.5 like measured but possibly 6’11.25
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Chandler with Fury (4” difference)
Chandler isn’t standing straight here but Fury’s legs are spread wider and is standing looser. I’d almost guess Fury being taller than Pippen next to Chandler.
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Pierre said on 6/Jun/21
Canson said on 6/Jun/21
@Pierre: no disrespect, but if this were a course in college for credit, and the pictures were a requirement to support/supplement your estimate, you would fail the course miserably
yeah I understand you =No direspect,but if I had to credit Tyson Fury like a 6"7' guy I will take your old pictures on ring by arguing both had same shoes , and by occulting other parameters ...
@Pierre: old pictures? What about the ones you have recycled and used at least 15 times with Magic. Yes Magic has a footwear advantage and even slight camera in one pic at least. Fury doesn’t stand his tallest very often either. For good measure. Here’s Wilder with Shaq
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Shaq with Magic
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Wilder with Fury you’ve seen and clear Fury is taller
Carmelo with Fury. As stated many times, I’ve seen Melo in person and standing right next to him he was “about” 2” taller than me. Clear as day that Fury is leaning and is clearly taller than Melo. Melo is close to Wilder in height. Both 6’6-6’6.5 range to be very broad more likely 6’6.25” max for melo
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Just for poops and giggles, here is Melo with Magic. If I were to use this picture as evidence, Fury would be taller than Magic being Melo looks almost as tall as Magic in the pic whereas Fury is clearly taller than Melo and has more of a difference than Magic has on Melo
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6’11-6’11.5 Tyson Chandler with 6’9.75 Eddy Curry, Scottie Pippen and 6’6” Jalen Rose. I left Pippen’s height blank because he’s clearly not 6’7.5 like drafted. He may have been 6’7 flat but no taller. Chandler may be 6’11.5 like measured but possibly 6’11.25
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Chandler with Fury (4” difference)
Chandler isn’t standing straight here but Fury’s legs are spread wider and is standing looser. I’d almost guess Fury being taller than Pippen next to Chandler.
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Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Jun/21
@Mickie
My prev. post should’ve read “Any chance Magic himself WAS 6’8””
@Mickie
My prev. post should’ve read “Any chance Magic himself WAS 6’8””
Mickie said on 12/Jun/21
I think Magic at 6'7.5" peak makes enough sense and Larry Bird at 6'8.75" give or take a quarter inch at his peak. I think Larry had Magic by at least and inch and maybe even an inch and a half really. Magic has held his height fairly well, better than Bird has who I think would probably be closer to 6'8" in recent years. Magic still seems close to his peak height. Tyson Fury is a notorious sloucher and is no stranger to thin shoes. These photos seemed to favor Magic angle wise.
I think Magic at 6'7.5" peak makes enough sense and Larry Bird at 6'8.75" give or take a quarter inch at his peak. I think Larry had Magic by at least and inch and maybe even an inch and a half really. Magic has held his height fairly well, better than Bird has who I think would probably be closer to 6'8" in recent years. Magic still seems close to his peak height. Tyson Fury is a notorious sloucher and is no stranger to thin shoes. These photos seemed to favor Magic angle wise.
Pierre said on 12/Jun/21
Click Here Stephen Merchant listed 6"7' slouching a lot and wearing flat sneakers (Click Here ) /Dwayne
Tyson wearing huge sneakers /Dwayne Click Here
Well...
Click Here Stephen Merchant listed 6"7' slouching a lot and wearing flat sneakers (Click Here ) /Dwayne
Tyson wearing huge sneakers /Dwayne Click Here
Well...
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Jun/21
@Mickie
Thanks. Yeah, I was trying to illustrate the convenient lack of address when it came to footwear that might disadvantage Fury.
I know Magic’s height has been well thrashed. Is there any chance Magic himself wasn’t 6’8”‘peak or at least closer to that than 6’7 1/2”? There’s quite a few old pics of he and Bird which seem to indicate only about 1” difference in height.
@Mickie
Thanks. Yeah, I was trying to illustrate the convenient lack of address when it came to footwear that might disadvantage Fury.
I know Magic’s height has been well thrashed. Is there any chance Magic himself wasn’t 6’8”‘peak or at least closer to that than 6’7 1/2”? There’s quite a few old pics of he and Bird which seem to indicate only about 1” difference in height.
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Jun/21
@Pierre
Due respect but you’ve missed the point. You proclaimed Wilder to be wearing flat sneakers vs Fury in heels to imply a notable footwear advantage to Tyson. The reality is that it was Tyson who was more likely at a footwear disadvantage, however slight it was. The biggest difference was your claim vs the reality and your lack of even address. Proof? When Fury’s flat shoes vs Magic’s own heels was highlighted you scoffed and basically suggested the advantage in favour of Magic was neglible. LOL, now I see you’ve flipped back to factoring Deontay’s “poor” soles. Haha, it seems everybody else around him are wearing stilts.
Wilder is the one who always initiates levering on his toes which doesn’t always have to be a full ballet style on your tips.
The ring face off isn’t the ONLY evidence of Fury being over 6’7” and taller than Wilder but unfortunately for you it is the best and least irrefutable evidence. Basically, it’s like saying “The only evidence you have to prove Fury is taller is....that Fury, in equal footwear and equally framed, is in fact taller as clearly indicated in the face off. No wonder you’re trying to deem it “inadmissible” LOL.
@Pierre
Due respect but you’ve missed the point. You proclaimed Wilder to be wearing flat sneakers vs Fury in heels to imply a notable footwear advantage to Tyson. The reality is that it was Tyson who was more likely at a footwear disadvantage, however slight it was. The biggest difference was your claim vs the reality and your lack of even address. Proof? When Fury’s flat shoes vs Magic’s own heels was highlighted you scoffed and basically suggested the advantage in favour of Magic was neglible. LOL, now I see you’ve flipped back to factoring Deontay’s “poor” soles. Haha, it seems everybody else around him are wearing stilts.
Wilder is the one who always initiates levering on his toes which doesn’t always have to be a full ballet style on your tips.
The ring face off isn’t the ONLY evidence of Fury being over 6’7” and taller than Wilder but unfortunately for you it is the best and least irrefutable evidence. Basically, it’s like saying “The only evidence you have to prove Fury is taller is....that Fury, in equal footwear and equally framed, is in fact taller as clearly indicated in the face off. No wonder you’re trying to deem it “inadmissible” LOL.
Pierre said on 11/Jun/21
@Tall in the saddle= The only argument you have to claim 6"7' for Tyson is this pics on ring with bad angle and Deontay less straight than Tyson....with the argument of similar boxer shoes...Of course Deontay's poor soles in my pics disadvantage him,this type of sneakers never give you the same help as leather shoes with classic heel.
@Tall in the saddle= The only argument you have to claim 6"7' for Tyson is this pics on ring with bad angle and Deontay less straight than Tyson....with the argument of similar boxer shoes...Of course Deontay's poor soles in my pics disadvantage him,this type of sneakers never give you the same help as leather shoes with classic heel.
Pierre said on 11/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 10/Jun/21
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
No because if Deontay was standing flat footed he’d be over an inch shorter
Other possibility= Deontay wasn't tiptoeing and Tyson is 6"6' ....=here try to guess who is the guy who is tiptoeing to standing taller than the other one = Click Here oups
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 10/Jun/21
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
No because if Deontay was standing flat footed he’d be over an inch shorter
Other possibility= Deontay wasn't tiptoeing and Tyson is 6"6' ....=here try to guess who is the guy who is tiptoeing to standing taller than the other one = Click Here oups
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 11/Jun/21
My man T. I. T. S. is making some good points out there, Pierre better listen
My man T. I. T. S. is making some good points out there, Pierre better listen
Chaos 6'2 1/2 said on 10/Jun/21
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
No because if Deontay was standing flat footed he’d be over an inch shorter
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
No because if Deontay was standing flat footed he’d be over an inch shorter
Pierre said on 10/Jun/21
Lol the difference is slim , probably max a fraction of an inch between Tyson's shoes and Magic's shoes,Magic's shoes looking very classic and Tyson's shoes with a little heel too = Click Here
About Magic's head looking bigger and supposed closer to the camera,just watch how this guys are standing from one to the other one = they are standing shoulder to shoulder and Tyson is the one who is standing the most profile to the camera,and the camera is centered .Magic slouch but not in direction to the camera,but in direction to Tyson...
Lol the difference is slim , probably max a fraction of an inch between Tyson's shoes and Magic's shoes,Magic's shoes looking very classic and Tyson's shoes with a little heel too = Click Here
About Magic's head looking bigger and supposed closer to the camera,just watch how this guys are standing from one to the other one = they are standing shoulder to shoulder and Tyson is the one who is standing the most profile to the camera,and the camera is centered .Magic slouch but not in direction to the camera,but in direction to Tyson...
Mickie said on 9/Jun/21
As far as Tommy Fury goes, I think he looked taller than 5'11" listed Jordan Grant (who was forcing posture and tilting his eye level up) in this faceoff: Click Here Maybe he's about 5'11.5"?
As far as Tommy Fury goes, I think he looked taller than 5'11" listed Jordan Grant (who was forcing posture and tilting his eye level up) in this faceoff: Click Here Maybe he's about 5'11.5"?
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jun/21
@Pierre
Wilder is clearly levering up on his toes. You know this and the live vision bears this out. At that press conference Fury was clearly the taller man. Wilder’s sneakers had as much visible uplift as Tyson’s so called heel which was actually simple dress shoe heel, notably only at the heel while Wilder’s uplift covered the whole of his sole.
You like photos with Fury and Wilder in varied footwear and postures to try and obfuscate the fact that Fury is taller. Blatantly ignoring Wilder on his toes presents as somewhat desperate.
Your argument was unequivocally lost when they faced up in the ring, equal footwear, postures and camera angle. All you’ve done since is revert to the same old inferior evidence, still trying to offer it up as legit when you know it’s not. LOL. Maybe time to wave the white flag.
@Pierre
Wilder is clearly levering up on his toes. You know this and the live vision bears this out. At that press conference Fury was clearly the taller man. Wilder’s sneakers had as much visible uplift as Tyson’s so called heel which was actually simple dress shoe heel, notably only at the heel while Wilder’s uplift covered the whole of his sole.
You like photos with Fury and Wilder in varied footwear and postures to try and obfuscate the fact that Fury is taller. Blatantly ignoring Wilder on his toes presents as somewhat desperate.
Your argument was unequivocally lost when they faced up in the ring, equal footwear, postures and camera angle. All you’ve done since is revert to the same old inferior evidence, still trying to offer it up as legit when you know it’s not. LOL. Maybe time to wave the white flag.
Pierre said on 7/Jun/21
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
If he was tiptoeing then even the top of his head would be higher.
Mickie said on 7/Jun/21
@Tall In Saddle - The Magic and Fury photos. You asked about the footwear. Magic's are pretty normal looking dress shoes and Fury's were very flat. I'd say there was probably at least a half inch in footwear difference. But their respective head sizes is a good clue the angle was favoring Magic, too. Magic also didn't look taller than Fury when you compared him with Wilder or Carmelo Anthony, either. If Magic is taller than Fury (which is possible) it's almost certainly by a lot less than it looks in those photos. I think they'd measure similar.
@Tall In Saddle - The Magic and Fury photos. You asked about the footwear. Magic's are pretty normal looking dress shoes and Fury's were very flat. I'd say there was probably at least a half inch in footwear difference. But their respective head sizes is a good clue the angle was favoring Magic, too. Magic also didn't look taller than Fury when you compared him with Wilder or Carmelo Anthony, either. If Magic is taller than Fury (which is possible) it's almost certainly by a lot less than it looks in those photos. I think they'd measure similar.
Pierre said on 6/Jun/21
Canson said on 6/Jun/21
@Pierre: no disrespect, but if this were a course in college for credit, and the pictures were a requirement to support/supplement your estimate, you would fail the course miserably
yeah I understand you =No direspect,but if I had to credit Tyson Fury like a 6"7' guy I will take your old pictures on ring by arguing both had same shoes , and by occulting other parameters ...
Canson said on 6/Jun/21
@Pierre: no disrespect, but if this were a course in college for credit, and the pictures were a requirement to support/supplement your estimate, you would fail the course miserably
yeah I understand you =No direspect,but if I had to credit Tyson Fury like a 6"7' guy I will take your old pictures on ring by arguing both had same shoes , and by occulting other parameters ...
Mickie said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre also doesn't assess footwear in an honest way either. Tyson can be wearing 2cm loafers and Deontay could be wearing one inch sneakers, and he will try to make it seem like Tyson has a footwear advantage. He also downplayed the obvious footwear difference in the photo of Fury and Wach when it didn't suit his 6'6" argument.
Pierre also doesn't assess footwear in an honest way either. Tyson can be wearing 2cm loafers and Deontay could be wearing one inch sneakers, and he will try to make it seem like Tyson has a footwear advantage. He also downplayed the obvious footwear difference in the photo of Fury and Wach when it didn't suit his 6'6" argument.
Chaos 6'2.5 said on 6/Jun/21
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
Pierre you gotta look at the eye levels on the Deontay pic. His is higher than Fury’s. He’s gotta he tiptoeing
Canson said on 6/Jun/21
@Pierre: no disrespect, but if this were a course in college for credit, and the pictures were a requirement to support/supplement your estimate, you would fail the course miserably
@Pierre: no disrespect, but if this were a course in college for credit, and the pictures were a requirement to support/supplement your estimate, you would fail the course miserably
Jake said on 6/Jun/21
How tall do you think Tommy Fury is Rob? Looked the same or a tad shorter than 180cm listed Jordan Grant during there weigh in.
Editor Rob
How tall do you think Tommy Fury is Rob? Looked the same or a tad shorter than 180cm listed Jordan Grant during there weigh in.
Editor RobWould safely say under 6ft
Pierre said on 5/Jun/21
Lol and finally Magic and Hafthor are around 6"9',Deontay around 6"7.5' Click Here = here with flat sneakers while Tyson wears heels= Click Here Click Here
Lol and finally Magic and Hafthor are around 6"9',Deontay around 6"7.5' Click Here = here with flat sneakers while Tyson wears heels= Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 4/Jun/21
@Hyper, Viper, Chaos, Shane and Tall in the Saddle: yea Im in the same camp. Remember Marcellus Wiley had him on SFY when Jason Whitlock was still on the show. He called him 6’7” the Champ. He probably eyeballed his height but with Wiley more than likely being at least a legit 6’4 that he’s closer on the guess. Momoa surprises me being he’s around 6’4” himself. I always wondered about Wiley’s barefoot height. He shows 6’4.75 at the combine but always listed 6’4”. I wonder if that was an error or just very early morning as he looks 6’4 usually. I can see the argument for 6’7 or 6’7.5 but 6’6 is ridiculous especially when he’s taller than Deontay Wilder and Carmelo Anthony. I’d guess 6’8 over 6’6 tbh
@Hyper, Viper, Chaos, Shane and Tall in the Saddle: yea Im in the same camp. Remember Marcellus Wiley had him on SFY when Jason Whitlock was still on the show. He called him 6’7” the Champ. He probably eyeballed his height but with Wiley more than likely being at least a legit 6’4 that he’s closer on the guess. Momoa surprises me being he’s around 6’4” himself. I always wondered about Wiley’s barefoot height. He shows 6’4.75 at the combine but always listed 6’4”. I wonder if that was an error or just very early morning as he looks 6’4 usually. I can see the argument for 6’7 or 6’7.5 but 6’6 is ridiculous especially when he’s taller than Deontay Wilder and Carmelo Anthony. I’d guess 6’8 over 6’6 tbh
Hyper said on 2/Jun/21
@ChaosControl I wonder if this guy really loathes Fury. Seriously, though.
@ChaosControl I wonder if this guy really loathes Fury. Seriously, though.
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 2/Jun/21
@Pierre read what I comment before you make your responses. With Nate Diaz Fury looks 6’7.5 and they have even footwear and it’s on flat ground. No camera advantage either. There’s even a photo where Fury’s in slippers and he still looks 6’7
@Pierre read what I comment before you make your responses. With Nate Diaz Fury looks 6’7.5 and they have even footwear and it’s on flat ground. No camera advantage either. There’s even a photo where Fury’s in slippers and he still looks 6’7
Pierre said on 1/Jun/21
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 1/Jun/21
@Pierre Momoa has claimed 6’5 himself so he’s probably trying to make it look like Fury’s not that much bigger than he. Side note: I agree with the listing and I was gonna put a 6’7.5 guess, but now I’m gonna put 6’9 just to spite you
@ChaosControl To be even more fun your 6"9' claim should be accompanied by the photo Tyson/ Magic(by specifying which of the two guys you put to 6"9').
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 1/Jun/21
@Pierre Momoa has claimed 6’5 himself so he’s probably trying to make it look like Fury’s not that much bigger than he. Side note: I agree with the listing and I was gonna put a 6’7.5 guess, but now I’m gonna put 6’9 just to spite you
@ChaosControl To be even more fun your 6"9' claim should be accompanied by the photo Tyson/ Magic(by specifying which of the two guys you put to 6"9').
Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Jun/21
@Pierre
Re Fury and Magic photo.
Can you tell me what the footwear situation is there? It isn't visible. Additionally, I assume you're ignoring the obvious downward slant from right to left which is clearly to Tyson's disadvantage. Atop all that, how is it that Johnson can appear 1 1/2" + taller than Fury when even Fury's biggest detractors wouldn't argue below 6'6" for Tyson? LOL, something is clearly "up" with that photo and you're failing to analyse it objectively because you're content that it "appears" to indicate Magic as clearly taller.
I've seen separate photos of Fury with Lewis and Magic with Lewis and they basically held the same height advantage over Lennox.
Re Fury and Momoa. What if Momoa asked if Tyson was 6'7" or 6' 7 1/2"? Would his opinion still carry weight or would you dismiss Momoa as a poor judge of height. The answer to that is obvious and it also answers the question as to whether Momoa's comment presents as "evidence" in its own right. Of course it doesn't. It simply fits your premeditated opinion re Fury's height. If it didn't, you wouldn't quote it. Again, what's the footwear situation here, because Momoa is very fond of decent heeled boots and it's only a guess but I would say Momoa is wearing more heel than Fury.
Momoa claims 6'4" for himself. So, he could only "see" 1" to 2" height difference between himself and Fury?. Call me crazy, but I saw a good 3" + advantage to Fury. This photo is basically indicative of the advantage I saw Fury hold in the live vision, Click Here
Otherwise, what do you make of Wlad's opinion re Fury's height? Wlad clearly stated that Fury is the same height as Dariusz Wach, that being 6'7 1/2". I dunno. Momoa met Fury once. Wlad was far better acquainted with Fury and Wach for that matter. I guess you would conclude that Wlad is out to lunch. Anyway, being even handed, Wlad's opinion doesn't constitute itself as evidence either.
Here's Fury and Wlad on the football pitch. Click Here You previously claimed that Fury was standing in longer grass and therefore elevated. False. The surface is the same. Objectively, Wlad's stance is slightly wider and Fury has a bit more heel. Properly accounted for, that is not going to bring 6'5 1/4" Wlad to within 3/4" of Fury. All in all, Fury is rocking an easy 2" advantage over Wlad. All I can say is that Wlad's estimate re Fury reasonably matches the vision while Momoa's estimate is somewhat at odds with the vision.
@Pierre
Re Fury and Magic photo.
Can you tell me what the footwear situation is there? It isn't visible. Additionally, I assume you're ignoring the obvious downward slant from right to left which is clearly to Tyson's disadvantage. Atop all that, how is it that Johnson can appear 1 1/2" + taller than Fury when even Fury's biggest detractors wouldn't argue below 6'6" for Tyson? LOL, something is clearly "up" with that photo and you're failing to analyse it objectively because you're content that it "appears" to indicate Magic as clearly taller.
I've seen separate photos of Fury with Lewis and Magic with Lewis and they basically held the same height advantage over Lennox.
Re Fury and Momoa. What if Momoa asked if Tyson was 6'7" or 6' 7 1/2"? Would his opinion still carry weight or would you dismiss Momoa as a poor judge of height. The answer to that is obvious and it also answers the question as to whether Momoa's comment presents as "evidence" in its own right. Of course it doesn't. It simply fits your premeditated opinion re Fury's height. If it didn't, you wouldn't quote it. Again, what's the footwear situation here, because Momoa is very fond of decent heeled boots and it's only a guess but I would say Momoa is wearing more heel than Fury.
Momoa claims 6'4" for himself. So, he could only "see" 1" to 2" height difference between himself and Fury?. Call me crazy, but I saw a good 3" + advantage to Fury. This photo is basically indicative of the advantage I saw Fury hold in the live vision, Click Here
Otherwise, what do you make of Wlad's opinion re Fury's height? Wlad clearly stated that Fury is the same height as Dariusz Wach, that being 6'7 1/2". I dunno. Momoa met Fury once. Wlad was far better acquainted with Fury and Wach for that matter. I guess you would conclude that Wlad is out to lunch. Anyway, being even handed, Wlad's opinion doesn't constitute itself as evidence either.
Here's Fury and Wlad on the football pitch. Click Here You previously claimed that Fury was standing in longer grass and therefore elevated. False. The surface is the same. Objectively, Wlad's stance is slightly wider and Fury has a bit more heel. Properly accounted for, that is not going to bring 6'5 1/4" Wlad to within 3/4" of Fury. All in all, Fury is rocking an easy 2" advantage over Wlad. All I can say is that Wlad's estimate re Fury reasonably matches the vision while Momoa's estimate is somewhat at odds with the vision.
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 1/Jun/21
@Pierre Momoa has claimed 6’5 himself so he’s probably trying to make it look like Fury’s not that much bigger than he. Side note: I agree with the listing and I was gonna put a 6’7.5 guess, but now I’m gonna put 6’9 just to spite you
@Pierre Momoa has claimed 6’5 himself so he’s probably trying to make it look like Fury’s not that much bigger than he. Side note: I agree with the listing and I was gonna put a 6’7.5 guess, but now I’m gonna put 6’9 just to spite you
Pierre said on 1/Jun/21
viper said on 31/May/21
I've been guessed at 6-1-6-2 at 6-3.
Doesn't mean anything
It means a tall guy standing very close to him has not buy 6"7'
viper said on 31/May/21
I've been guessed at 6-1-6-2 at 6-3.
Doesn't mean anything
It means a tall guy standing very close to him has not buy 6"7'
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 1/Jun/21
@Viper I’ve been guessed 6’5+ at 6’2.5 and also been guessed 5’10. You’re right that it means nothing
@Viper I’ve been guessed 6’5+ at 6’2.5 and also been guessed 5’10. You’re right that it means nothing
viper said on 31/May/21
I've been guessed at 6-1-6-2 at 6-3.
Doesn't mean anything
I've been guessed at 6-1-6-2 at 6-3.
Doesn't mean anything
Mickie said on 31/May/21
@JD1996 - thanks, I think he looked solidly what Rob has him at in that video, assuming Jearn is as listed, too.
@JD1996 - thanks, I think he looked solidly what Rob has him at in that video, assuming Jearn is as listed, too.
Pierre said on 31/May/21
viper said on 27/May/21
He flat out looks 6-7 minimum
Interesting how Jason Mamoa thought he was only 6-5-6-6
Of course because he's probably nothing above 6"6' .he looks noticiably shorter than Hafthor by Braun ,noticiably shorter than Magic in this pic plus by Floyd Mayweathers ,curiously he looks sometimes max same height as Deontay ...
viper said on 27/May/21
He flat out looks 6-7 minimum
Interesting how Jason Mamoa thought he was only 6-5-6-6
Of course because he's probably nothing above 6"6' .he looks noticiably shorter than Hafthor by Braun ,noticiably shorter than Magic in this pic plus by Floyd Mayweathers ,curiously he looks sometimes max same height as Deontay ...
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 29/May/21
Is his brother Tommy Fury really 6’0? He has been billed 6’2 in the past but is now consistently listed 6’0. I’d rule out anything over it, but is he under or on the mark?
Is his brother Tommy Fury really 6’0? He has been billed 6’2 in the past but is now consistently listed 6’0. I’d rule out anything over it, but is he under or on the mark?
Shane said on 29/May/21
6'7" max afternoon. I don't think he is that tall.
6'7" max afternoon. I don't think he is that tall.
Hyper said on 28/May/21
@Viper
That's the worst I would put him at. Generally, he's not someone who stands up straight. Clearly, he's taller than Carmelo Anthony and Braun Strowman. He even had less footwear than Braun.
@Viper
That's the worst I would put him at. Generally, he's not someone who stands up straight. Clearly, he's taller than Carmelo Anthony and Braun Strowman. He even had less footwear than Braun.
Mickie said on 28/May/21
@ Viper - yeah I think 6'7 1/4" is a good estimate.
@ Viper - yeah I think 6'7 1/4" is a good estimate.
viper said on 27/May/21
I can see an argument to be made for a downgrade to 6-7 1/4
I can see an argument to be made for a downgrade to 6-7 1/4
viper said on 27/May/21
He flat out looks 6-7 minimum
Interesting how Jason Mamoa thought he was only 6-5-6-6
He flat out looks 6-7 minimum
Interesting how Jason Mamoa thought he was only 6-5-6-6
JD1996 said on 27/May/21
@Mickie - Hi Mickie it’s here Click Here take a look if interested it’s only a brief encounter.
@Mickie - Hi Mickie it’s here Click Here take a look if interested it’s only a brief encounter.
Pierre said on 27/May/21
Comparisons Tyson Fury /Carmelo
Magic Johnson /Lebron James = Click Here Click Here Click Here
Lebron James /Carmelo = Click Here Click Here
Comparisons Tyson Fury /Carmelo
Magic Johnson /Lebron James = Click Here Click Here Click Here
Lebron James /Carmelo = Click Here Click Here
Hyper said on 26/May/21
He did look at least 6'7 1/4" with Carmelo Anthony. Certainly looked taller than Someone like Lebron James, height-wise.
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Off-Topic: I really want Fury to win against AJ. LOL!
He did look at least 6'7 1/4" with Carmelo Anthony. Certainly looked taller than Someone like Lebron James, height-wise.
Click Here
Off-Topic: I really want Fury to win against AJ. LOL!
Mickie said on 26/May/21
@JD1996 - do you have a link for it? I didn't see Hearn and Fury on video recently.
@JD1996 - do you have a link for it? I didn't see Hearn and Fury on video recently.
JD1996 said on 25/May/21
Looked about 4 inches over Eddie Hearn the other day on youtube.
Looked about 4 inches over Eddie Hearn the other day on youtube.
Shane said on 25/May/21
6'7" MAX afternoon height for Fury imo. His 6'9" claim to me has to be out of bed in a very tall shoe. I can see him easily dipping under 6'7".
6'7" MAX afternoon height for Fury imo. His 6'9" claim to me has to be out of bed in a very tall shoe. I can see him easily dipping under 6'7".
Mickie said on 24/May/21
Nick Diaz claims 6'1", Rob has him at 5'11.75".
Nick Diaz claims 6'1", Rob has him at 5'11.75".
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 24/May/21
@Pierre Diaz is listed 5’11.75 here, so let’s use that as a starting point
@Pierre Diaz is listed 5’11.75 here, so let’s use that as a starting point
Pierre said on 23/May/21
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 20/May/21
Pierre I notice you haven’t said anything about the equal footwear, fair picture with Nick Diaz
ChaosControl Both guys are standing in special postures here,then even with shoes looking similar it seems to me hard to precisely compare them .So Nick Diaz's height would be 5"11.25'?
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 20/May/21
Pierre I notice you haven’t said anything about the equal footwear, fair picture with Nick Diaz
ChaosControl Both guys are standing in special postures here,then even with shoes looking similar it seems to me hard to precisely compare them .So Nick Diaz's height would be 5"11.25'?
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 20/May/21
Pierre I notice you haven’t said anything about the equal footwear, fair picture with Nick Diaz
Pierre I notice you haven’t said anything about the equal footwear, fair picture with Nick Diaz
Pierre said on 19/May/21
Mickie said on 18/May/21
Interestingly Pierre only cites variables that favor Fury. Yes, Fury has better posture in the picture, but he's also further from the camera. No mention of that.
Yeah this parameter seems to me like a minor thing compared to their respectives postures that are really different from one another.
A famous expression that some guys here use come curiously in my mind when I look at this pics .That's about "cherry picked pics" or something like that :)
Mickie said on 18/May/21
Interestingly Pierre only cites variables that favor Fury. Yes, Fury has better posture in the picture, but he's also further from the camera. No mention of that.
Yeah this parameter seems to me like a minor thing compared to their respectives postures that are really different from one another.
A famous expression that some guys here use come curiously in my mind when I look at this pics .That's about "cherry picked pics" or something like that :)
Mickie said on 18/May/21
Interestingly Pierre only cites variables that favor Fury. Yes, Fury has better posture in the picture, but he's also further from the camera. No mention of that.
Interestingly Pierre only cites variables that favor Fury. Yes, Fury has better posture in the picture, but he's also further from the camera. No mention of that.
JD1996 said on 18/May/21
Mickie also in that selfie we don’t know if they are sitting down or standing up so it’s not possible to compare them from just that alone.
Mickie also in that selfie we don’t know if they are sitting down or standing up so it’s not possible to compare them from just that alone.
Pierre said on 17/May/21
Mickie said on 15/May/21
Ivan Dychko and Tyson Fury: Click Here
Ivan Dychko and Wladimir Klitschko: Click Here
Yeah = first pic= Tyson Fury stretching up a lot Ivan leaning
second pic = low camera in direction to the ceiling plus Ivan a little bit closer to the camera that give him a good advantage
Mickie said on 15/May/21
Ivan Dychko and Tyson Fury: Click Here
Ivan Dychko and Wladimir Klitschko: Click Here
Yeah = first pic= Tyson Fury stretching up a lot Ivan leaning
second pic = low camera in direction to the ceiling plus Ivan a little bit closer to the camera that give him a good advantage
Mickie said on 16/May/21
Tyson posted a short selfie video with Shaq, the angle and postures make it useless for telling height. Would've been really cool to see if they had properly compared.
Tyson posted a short selfie video with Shaq, the angle and postures make it useless for telling height. Would've been really cool to see if they had properly compared.
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 16/May/21
@Canson what do you think of the Nick Diaz phot with Fury I posted? Diaz is 5’11.5-6’0 right so Fury’s easily 6’7. And it’s full length, similar footwear. I’d like to see what Pierre thinks of this
@Canson what do you think of the Nick Diaz phot with Fury I posted? Diaz is 5’11.5-6’0 right so Fury’s easily 6’7. And it’s full length, similar footwear. I’d like to see what Pierre thinks of this
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 15/May/21
Click Here Here’s a better photo. See that’s easily 7.5 inches plus
Click Here Here’s a better photo. See that’s easily 7.5 inches plus
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 15/May/21
Click Here
Click Here
Screenshots from an Instagram video of Tyson and 5’11.5 Nick Diaz. Yeah Tyson’s slouching and these probably aren’t great for comparison but you can tell that Tyson would be at least 7.5 inches taller if he straightened out his neck and back
Click Here
Click Here
Screenshots from an Instagram video of Tyson and 5’11.5 Nick Diaz. Yeah Tyson’s slouching and these probably aren’t great for comparison but you can tell that Tyson would be at least 7.5 inches taller if he straightened out his neck and back
Canson said on 15/May/21
@Tall in the Saddle: yea looking at Wilder in the ring and close up shots, he’s physically too tall to be less than 6’6” . If I hadn’t seen him with Carmelo or Shaq, I could almost buy the 6’6.5 he measured but that could’ve been a little earlier in the day. Easily 6’7 out of bed or just under it 6’6 7/8 perhaps and that’s an outside chance that he’s not a guy who loses a full inch. I don’t rule out 6’7.25 out of bed if he’s 6’6.25 afternoon. But Fury clearly had too much on him to be 6’6 flat himself. The pic with Magic was the only thing he went off of. Lol he may actually be shorter than Wilder or the same height and be fooling us like Pierre thinks but then we see Carmelo and Strowman next to him and he’s taller than both. Fury has a chance of this listing in the afternoon with both. That looks like an inch on Strowman and at least that with Melo
Fury’s shoulders are higher like someone else said and his neck is at least the same length as strowman’s
@Tall in the Saddle: yea looking at Wilder in the ring and close up shots, he’s physically too tall to be less than 6’6” . If I hadn’t seen him with Carmelo or Shaq, I could almost buy the 6’6.5 he measured but that could’ve been a little earlier in the day. Easily 6’7 out of bed or just under it 6’6 7/8 perhaps and that’s an outside chance that he’s not a guy who loses a full inch. I don’t rule out 6’7.25 out of bed if he’s 6’6.25 afternoon. But Fury clearly had too much on him to be 6’6 flat himself. The pic with Magic was the only thing he went off of. Lol he may actually be shorter than Wilder or the same height and be fooling us like Pierre thinks but then we see Carmelo and Strowman next to him and he’s taller than both. Fury has a chance of this listing in the afternoon with both. That looks like an inch on Strowman and at least that with Melo
Fury’s shoulders are higher like someone else said and his neck is at least the same length as strowman’s
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 15/May/21
@Pierre I could probably meet Fury and he’d have 5” on me and you’d still be saying he’s 6’6
@Pierre I could probably meet Fury and he’d have 5” on me and you’d still be saying he’s 6’6
Mickie said on 15/May/21
Ivan Dychko and Tyson Fury: Click Here
Ivan Dychko and Wladimir Klitschko: Click Here
Ivan Dychko and Tyson Fury: Click Here
Ivan Dychko and Wladimir Klitschko: Click Here
MattJames 6'8/203cm said on 15/May/21
Ivan dychko just posted a photo on Instagram with fury. In the photo we can't see footwear, and fury is really stretching. It does look like he would still be taller (he might even have disadvantaged himself as it looks like he has moved his head way behind ivan, hence his head looking tiny) anyway, ivan is supposed to be 6'9. But I think he's more 6'6.5 ( he looked that when he fought joshua) so for me fury 6'7.5 to 6'8. I'd love to meet him as I've been measured a legit 6'8 at 12pm.
Ivan dychko just posted a photo on Instagram with fury. In the photo we can't see footwear, and fury is really stretching. It does look like he would still be taller (he might even have disadvantaged himself as it looks like he has moved his head way behind ivan, hence his head looking tiny) anyway, ivan is supposed to be 6'9. But I think he's more 6'6.5 ( he looked that when he fought joshua) so for me fury 6'7.5 to 6'8. I'd love to meet him as I've been measured a legit 6'8 at 12pm.
Pierre said on 14/May/21
Talk In The Saddle said on 12/May/21
@Pierre
Keep punching my friend.
Keep punching too...(Emong other things we can see their shoes Alberto doesn't wear wrestler shoes hereand the floor is regular...)
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 14/May/21
@Pierre yeah you’re wrong. You think it’s Owens 5’8.5, Orton 6’2.75, Fury 6’6 but to anyone with half a brain it’s Owens 5’10 or 5’9.75 at worst, Orton 6’4, Fury 6’7.5-6’7.75
@ChaosControl = OH yeah of course...
Talk In The Saddle said on 12/May/21
@Pierre
Keep punching my friend.
Keep punching too...(Emong other things we can see their shoes Alberto doesn't wear wrestler shoes hereand the floor is regular...)
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 14/May/21
@Pierre yeah you’re wrong. You think it’s Owens 5’8.5, Orton 6’2.75, Fury 6’6 but to anyone with half a brain it’s Owens 5’10 or 5’9.75 at worst, Orton 6’4, Fury 6’7.5-6’7.75
@ChaosControl = OH yeah of course...
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 14/May/21
@Pierre yeah you’re wrong. You think it’s Owens 5’8.5, Orton 6’2.75, Fury 6’6 but to anyone with half a brain it’s Owens 5’10 or 5’9.75 at worst, Orton 6’4, Fury 6’7.5-6’7.75
@Pierre yeah you’re wrong. You think it’s Owens 5’8.5, Orton 6’2.75, Fury 6’6 but to anyone with half a brain it’s Owens 5’10 or 5’9.75 at worst, Orton 6’4, Fury 6’7.5-6’7.75
Pierre said on 13/May/21
Kevin Owens is probably 5"8.5' a little bit like Alberto Del Rio is 6"5' on the paper....
Kevin Owens is probably 5"8.5' a little bit like Alberto Del Rio is 6"5' on the paper....
Talk In The Saddle said on 12/May/21
@Pierre
Lucas Browne is a fairly estimated 6’4”. He doesn’t become less so just because need to reconcile Fury to below 6’7”. The fact that you’re trying to inject doubt re Browne’s height actually suggests you can see a 3” + diff. in height between the two. What other reason is there for you to suspect Browne to be any less?
It’s rinse repeat when you describe Orton as a “supposed” 6’4” and provide a half length photo (footwear and surface unseen) with Orton in the foreground and Fury with inferior posture. As is, I’d still give Fury 2 1/2” to 3” advantage.
Back to “old faithful”, break your mama’s back Wilder. His posture is basically the same in all 3 face off pics, certainly no worse than Fury’s. His traps are simply more noticeable when he’s viewed side on and you’re def. confusing them with an arched back.
Keep punching my friend.
@Pierre
Lucas Browne is a fairly estimated 6’4”. He doesn’t become less so just because need to reconcile Fury to below 6’7”. The fact that you’re trying to inject doubt re Browne’s height actually suggests you can see a 3” + diff. in height between the two. What other reason is there for you to suspect Browne to be any less?
It’s rinse repeat when you describe Orton as a “supposed” 6’4” and provide a half length photo (footwear and surface unseen) with Orton in the foreground and Fury with inferior posture. As is, I’d still give Fury 2 1/2” to 3” advantage.
Back to “old faithful”, break your mama’s back Wilder. His posture is basically the same in all 3 face off pics, certainly no worse than Fury’s. His traps are simply more noticeable when he’s viewed side on and you’re def. confusing them with an arched back.
Keep punching my friend.
Mickie said on 12/May/21
This clip seems to imply Ronald himself claimed 6ft 9 and a bit Click Here
... Maybe that means more like 6'9.25" / 206 cm than 207 cm, but yeah even if we give him 6'9.25" Tyson still looks closer to 6'8" than he does 6'6" in the video.
This clip seems to imply Ronald himself claimed 6ft 9 and a bit Click Here
... Maybe that means more like 6'9.25" / 206 cm than 207 cm, but yeah even if we give him 6'9.25" Tyson still looks closer to 6'8" than he does 6'6" in the video.
Mickie said on 12/May/21
@JD1996 - I agree there's not a huge difference in height between them. I think Ronald is taller, but it's not like it's a big difference.
@JD1996 - I agree there's not a huge difference in height between them. I think Ronald is taller, but it's not like it's a big difference.
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 12/May/21
Click Here If Orton’s really 6’2.75 does that make Kevin Owens 5’8.5 or something? No way in hell is he that small
Click Here If Orton’s really 6’2.75 does that make Kevin Owens 5’8.5 or something? No way in hell is he that small
JD1996 said on 11/May/21
@mickie that’s a really weird that video you sent Click Here if Ronald is 6’9.5” tyson looks very similar his shoulders are the same height crickey didn’t expect to see that I was expecting him to look noticeably shorter but they look so similar that’s crazy!
@mickie that’s a really weird that video you sent Click Here if Ronald is 6’9.5” tyson looks very similar his shoulders are the same height crickey didn’t expect to see that I was expecting him to look noticeably shorter but they look so similar that’s crazy!
Mickie said on 11/May/21
There just isn't a big posture difference between the two guys there.
There just isn't a big posture difference between the two guys there.
Pierre said on 11/May/21
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 10/May/21
Pierre said on 10/May/21
Click Here Even with a perfect posture Randy will be hardly a complete inch taller than Alberto himself big max 6"2' next to Rob .
I buy max 6"2.75'
You think Orton is barely above my height and he’s literally standing in front of Fury, no wonder you’re tryna downgrade him
Randy Orton stands a little bit closer to the camera than Tyson but the camera is high here then it's easier to guess the difference of height....Then you forgot to specify in your comment that Randy stands comfortably closer to the camera than Alberto in my pic on 08/May ....
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 10/May/21
Pierre said on 10/May/21
Click Here Even with a perfect posture Randy will be hardly a complete inch taller than Alberto himself big max 6"2' next to Rob .
I buy max 6"2.75'
You think Orton is barely above my height and he’s literally standing in front of Fury, no wonder you’re tryna downgrade him
Randy Orton stands a little bit closer to the camera than Tyson but the camera is high here then it's easier to guess the difference of height....Then you forgot to specify in your comment that Randy stands comfortably closer to the camera than Alberto in my pic on 08/May ....
Pierre said on 11/May/21
Mickie said on 10/May/21
I've still heard no explanation as to how Fury, if he was 6'6", looks as close in height to 6'9.5" Ronald McIntosh as he did... Click Here
Yeah Ronald is 6"9.5' on the paper...Tyson wear an advantageous cap here and Ronald around 100% of the time is slouching a lot to talk to Tyson.(And I don't know their shoes here...)
Mickie said on 10/May/21
I've still heard no explanation as to how Fury, if he was 6'6", looks as close in height to 6'9.5" Ronald McIntosh as he did... Click Here
Yeah Ronald is 6"9.5' on the paper...Tyson wear an advantageous cap here and Ronald around 100% of the time is slouching a lot to talk to Tyson.(And I don't know their shoes here...)
Mickie said on 10/May/21
I've still heard no explanation as to how Fury, if he was 6'6", looks as close in height to 6'9.5" Ronald McIntosh as he did... Click Here
Any moment where they are of equal distance to the camera, it is obvious that the difference is no more than 2" (let alone 3.5").
I've still heard no explanation as to how Fury, if he was 6'6", looks as close in height to 6'9.5" Ronald McIntosh as he did... Click Here
Any moment where they are of equal distance to the camera, it is obvious that the difference is no more than 2" (let alone 3.5").
Pierre said on 10/May/21
Mickie said on 10/May/21
The Randy Orton pic, we don't even know if they are even standing on level ground.
Lol then it's the same thing about the floor with Tyson /Carmelo etc....
Mickie said on 10/May/21
These pictures show (in order) roughly equal distance from the camera, Fury closer, Wilder closer. If you really think Wilder and Fury are actually standing the same distance from the camera in the last image, you must think their head sizes are very different (i.e. Fury has a pin head and/or Wilder's is enormous) Click Here
The last image show Deontay a little bit closer to the camera but Tyson has a better posture than Deontay here .Same thing in the first pic.His back is completely arched here.
Mickie said on 10/May/21
The Randy Orton pic, we don't even know if they are even standing on level ground.
Lol then it's the same thing about the floor with Tyson /Carmelo etc....
Mickie said on 10/May/21
These pictures show (in order) roughly equal distance from the camera, Fury closer, Wilder closer. If you really think Wilder and Fury are actually standing the same distance from the camera in the last image, you must think their head sizes are very different (i.e. Fury has a pin head and/or Wilder's is enormous) Click Here
The last image show Deontay a little bit closer to the camera but Tyson has a better posture than Deontay here .Same thing in the first pic.His back is completely arched here.
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 10/May/21
Pierre said on 10/May/21
Click Here Even with a perfect posture Randy will be hardly a complete inch taller than Alberto himself big max 6"2' next to Rob .
I buy max 6"2.75'
You think Orton is barely above my height and he’s literally standing in front of Fury, no wonder you’re tryna downgrade him
Pierre said on 10/May/21
Click Here Even with a perfect posture Randy will be hardly a complete inch taller than Alberto himself big max 6"2' next to Rob .
I buy max 6"2.75'
You think Orton is barely above my height and he’s literally standing in front of Fury, no wonder you’re tryna downgrade him
Mickie said on 10/May/21
These pictures show (in order) roughly equal distance from the camera, Fury closer, Wilder closer. If you really think Wilder and Fury are actually standing the same distance from the camera in the last image, you must think their head sizes are very different (i.e. Fury has a pin head and/or Wilder's is enormous) Click Here
The Randy Orton pic, we don't even know if they are even standing on level ground.
These pictures show (in order) roughly equal distance from the camera, Fury closer, Wilder closer. If you really think Wilder and Fury are actually standing the same distance from the camera in the last image, you must think their head sizes are very different (i.e. Fury has a pin head and/or Wilder's is enormous) Click Here
The Randy Orton pic, we don't even know if they are even standing on level ground.
Pierre said on 10/May/21
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 9/May/21
@Pierre of course Fury won’t look 6’7.5 when Orton (who’s 6’4, but I’m sure you guessed him on one page as 6’3) is standing in front of him
Yeah Randy is 6"4' ....and Tyson is 6"7' or more...And Magic 6"8.5' or more....And Alberto Del Rio easily 6"3' ....etc
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 9/May/21
@Pierre of course Fury won’t look 6’7.5 when Orton (who’s 6’4, but I’m sure you guessed him on one page as 6’3) is standing in front of him
Yeah Randy is 6"4' ....and Tyson is 6"7' or more...And Magic 6"8.5' or more....And Alberto Del Rio easily 6"3' ....etc
ChaosControl 6'2.5/189.2cm said on 9/May/21
@Pierre of course Fury won’t look 6’7.5 when Orton (who’s 6’4, but I’m sure you guessed him on one page as 6’3) is standing in front of him
@Pierre of course Fury won’t look 6’7.5 when Orton (who’s 6’4, but I’m sure you guessed him on one page as 6’3) is standing in front of him
Canson said on 9/May/21
Pierre said on 8/May/21
@Canson = Sorry Canson you're the one who for memory use cherry picked pictures (this famous pics on ring with terrible low angle of cameras).
@Pierre: look around at who calls my pics cherry picked versus yours. It’s probably at least 7-0 in your favor (sarcastically) just on this page. With all due respect
Pierre said on 8/May/21
@Canson = Sorry Canson you're the one who for memory use cherry picked pictures (this famous pics on ring with terrible low angle of cameras).
@Pierre: look around at who calls my pics cherry picked versus yours. It’s probably at least 7-0 in your favor (sarcastically) just on this page. With all due respect
Pierre said on 9/May/21
Mickie said on 9/May/21
@Pierre - the footage of them in the ring does not have a "terrible angle". You only think that because you put your conclusion before the evidence. That is actually some of the best evidence we have to compare their heights.
The only evidence in this pic on ring would be both guys would have exactly same help of shoes,that is not even an evidence because there is multiple type of boxing shoes that are marketed.It's a fact a low angle of camera like here can give an advantage to a guy even if this guy stands only some centimeters closer to the camera than the other guy.
Mickie said on 9/May/21
@Pierre - the footage of them in the ring does not have a "terrible angle". You only think that because you put your conclusion before the evidence. That is actually some of the best evidence we have to compare their heights.
The only evidence in this pic on ring would be both guys would have exactly same help of shoes,that is not even an evidence because there is multiple type of boxing shoes that are marketed.It's a fact a low angle of camera like here can give an advantage to a guy even if this guy stands only some centimeters closer to the camera than the other guy.
Mickie said on 9/May/21
@Pierre - the footage of them in the ring does not have a "terrible angle". You only think that because you put your conclusion before the evidence. That is actually some of the best evidence we have to compare their heights.
@Pierre - the footage of them in the ring does not have a "terrible angle". You only think that because you put your conclusion before the evidence. That is actually some of the best evidence we have to compare their heights.
Pierre said on 8/May/21
Click Here Click Here Tyson Fury next to Randy Orton supposed 6"4'
Randy Orton closer to the camera than Alberto Del Rio = Click Here
Alberto/Rob = Click Here
Randy Orton closer to the camera than Shaq Click Here
Randy Orton Triple H = Click Here
Triple H /Hafthor = Click Here
Hafthor's scale = Click Here
Tyson 6"6' one more time.
Click Here Click Here Tyson Fury next to Randy Orton supposed 6"4'
Randy Orton closer to the camera than Alberto Del Rio = Click Here
Alberto/Rob = Click Here
Randy Orton closer to the camera than Shaq Click Here
Randy Orton Triple H = Click Here
Triple H /Hafthor = Click Here
Hafthor's scale = Click Here
Tyson 6"6' one more time.
Pierre said on 8/May/21
@Canson = Sorry Canson you're the one who for memory use cherry picked pictures (this famous pics on ring with terrible low angle of cameras).
@Canson = Sorry Canson you're the one who for memory use cherry picked pictures (this famous pics on ring with terrible low angle of cameras).
Canson said on 5/May/21
Pierre said on 3/May/21
@Tall In The Saddle = my arguments still are better than arguments of 6"7' guessers who try to put Tyson same range height as Magic and also really taller than Deontay for an example.This video with Lucas Browne show Tyson dwarfing Lucas Browne,so = or Lucas isn't clearly close to 6"4' or/and one of this guys stands barefoot and the other guy wear good shoes.Tyson's support leg in this pic on 24/April is the right leg then logically Tyson had the advantage of the carpet.Lucas was tiptoeing on his right foot but bwas bending his knee so finally had not an advantage.And clearly he was looking in poorer posture than Tyson here,his neck standing almost 45 degrees to the horizontal line.In fact all his body is like an S here that is not the case of Tyson.
How are your arguments better, Pierre? You used biased cherry-picked pictures to prove your points. And us “6’7” guessers are doing so because there is no scientific proof that Fury is under 6’7” other than your pic with Magic. He’s taller than Wilder and taller than Carmelo Anthony. He’s also only 4” shorter than Tyson Chandler. Not to mention he’s an inch taller than Braun Strowman. All in all Rob’s listing looks legitimate
Pierre said on 3/May/21
@Tall In The Saddle = my arguments still are better than arguments of 6"7' guessers who try to put Tyson same range height as Magic and also really taller than Deontay for an example.This video with Lucas Browne show Tyson dwarfing Lucas Browne,so = or Lucas isn't clearly close to 6"4' or/and one of this guys stands barefoot and the other guy wear good shoes.Tyson's support leg in this pic on 24/April is the right leg then logically Tyson had the advantage of the carpet.Lucas was tiptoeing on his right foot but bwas bending his knee so finally had not an advantage.And clearly he was looking in poorer posture than Tyson here,his neck standing almost 45 degrees to the horizontal line.In fact all his body is like an S here that is not the case of Tyson.
How are your arguments better, Pierre? You used biased cherry-picked pictures to prove your points. And us “6’7” guessers are doing so because there is no scientific proof that Fury is under 6’7” other than your pic with Magic. He’s taller than Wilder and taller than Carmelo Anthony. He’s also only 4” shorter than Tyson Chandler. Not to mention he’s an inch taller than Braun Strowman. All in all Rob’s listing looks legitimate
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/May/21
@Pierre
Right now, we're comparing Fury to Browne. Probably best not to obfuscate/confuse with already well discussed comparisons involving Wilder and Magic at this moment.
Regards to Fury and Browne. Mickie provided a full length pic. You replied with a half length pic and accepted it as is, without qualifying Tyson's own inferior posture or speculating on footwear vs no footwear.
I provided half length vision showing Fury to be standing clearly taller than Browne. The difference in height didn't suit your predisposed, unwavering estimate re Tyson's height. ONLY then did you want to talk about the possibility of footwear vs no footwear. As a further safeguard, you also questioned the legitimacy of Browne's reasonably estimated 6'4". Again, that's confirmation bias and one way treatment. You tried to come in at every angle to deny what can be clearly seen.
True, in Mickie's photo, both Fury and Browne's postures are less than perfect. True also that Browne's posture is a bit worse than Fury's, specifically with his head bowed a bit. Not true that Fury is gaining any meaningful advantage with his right foot on the mat, and his right leg is not necessarily his "support" leg. All things considered and accounted for, Fury is still upholding a reasonably estimated 3" advantage over Browne.
Now you appear to be speculating that Browne isn't 6'4" ONLY due to the clear advantage Fury holds over him and predisposed belief that Fury is less than 6'7". Accepting Browne as 6'4", Tyson's advantage over him does put Fury over 6'7". Browne often claimed 6'5" and no one is being unrealistic trying to run with that claim or order to inflate Tyson. By all available comparisons, Browne is a more than reasonably estimated 6'4". I agree with Mickie in that Browne was a fair 2" taller than Dillian Whyte. Whyte himself has claimed a ridiculous 6'4" but again, more realistically, he is generally and reasonably estimated to be 6'2" with the possibility that he is a touch taller than that, like 6'2 1/4" maybe.
At times, I agree with the criteria you're running with to determine height. Postures, footwear, angles etc. are all relevant. However, at least where Fury is concerned, you appear to run it completely one way with the singular motive to reconcile Tyson to be below 6'7". If you want a true answer to his height, your analysis should be applied evenly.
Why not estimate Browne's height objectively for yourself, by way of other comparisons, isolated from Tyson? You're only assuming Browne to be less than 6'4" because the height difference doesn't gel with your estimate on Tyson. It would be a compounding bias to only look for evidence suggesting Browne to be below 6'4". Keep an open mind.
@Pierre
Right now, we're comparing Fury to Browne. Probably best not to obfuscate/confuse with already well discussed comparisons involving Wilder and Magic at this moment.
Regards to Fury and Browne. Mickie provided a full length pic. You replied with a half length pic and accepted it as is, without qualifying Tyson's own inferior posture or speculating on footwear vs no footwear.
I provided half length vision showing Fury to be standing clearly taller than Browne. The difference in height didn't suit your predisposed, unwavering estimate re Tyson's height. ONLY then did you want to talk about the possibility of footwear vs no footwear. As a further safeguard, you also questioned the legitimacy of Browne's reasonably estimated 6'4". Again, that's confirmation bias and one way treatment. You tried to come in at every angle to deny what can be clearly seen.
True, in Mickie's photo, both Fury and Browne's postures are less than perfect. True also that Browne's posture is a bit worse than Fury's, specifically with his head bowed a bit. Not true that Fury is gaining any meaningful advantage with his right foot on the mat, and his right leg is not necessarily his "support" leg. All things considered and accounted for, Fury is still upholding a reasonably estimated 3" advantage over Browne.
Now you appear to be speculating that Browne isn't 6'4" ONLY due to the clear advantage Fury holds over him and predisposed belief that Fury is less than 6'7". Accepting Browne as 6'4", Tyson's advantage over him does put Fury over 6'7". Browne often claimed 6'5" and no one is being unrealistic trying to run with that claim or order to inflate Tyson. By all available comparisons, Browne is a more than reasonably estimated 6'4". I agree with Mickie in that Browne was a fair 2" taller than Dillian Whyte. Whyte himself has claimed a ridiculous 6'4" but again, more realistically, he is generally and reasonably estimated to be 6'2" with the possibility that he is a touch taller than that, like 6'2 1/4" maybe.
At times, I agree with the criteria you're running with to determine height. Postures, footwear, angles etc. are all relevant. However, at least where Fury is concerned, you appear to run it completely one way with the singular motive to reconcile Tyson to be below 6'7". If you want a true answer to his height, your analysis should be applied evenly.
Why not estimate Browne's height objectively for yourself, by way of other comparisons, isolated from Tyson? You're only assuming Browne to be less than 6'4" because the height difference doesn't gel with your estimate on Tyson. It would be a compounding bias to only look for evidence suggesting Browne to be below 6'4". Keep an open mind.
Pierre said on 4/May/21
Of course Deontay was looking shorter than Tyson in this pic ,Deontay leaning even more than the power of Pisa in this pic.If Tyson was the guy who was leaning that much the 6"7' guessers wouldn’t forget to mention it ;) (and Tyson's shoes are looking so huge here...)
Of course Deontay was looking shorter than Tyson in this pic ,Deontay leaning even more than the power of Pisa in this pic.If Tyson was the guy who was leaning that much the 6"7' guessers wouldn’t forget to mention it ;) (and Tyson's shoes are looking so huge here...)
Pierre said on 4/May/21
Lol Tyson's shoes are looking huger than this model Yeezy .
Lol Tyson's shoes are looking huger than this model Yeezy .
Mickie said on 4/May/21
I mean, I literally posted a photo of Wilder and Fury where Wilder was tip toeing and still looked a good inch shorter than Fury... BTW Fury's shoes in that photo aren't as big as they may appear Click Here they would be similar to this style. But okay, let's work on finding some excuses for that.
I mean, I literally posted a photo of Wilder and Fury where Wilder was tip toeing and still looked a good inch shorter than Fury... BTW Fury's shoes in that photo aren't as big as they may appear Click Here they would be similar to this style. But okay, let's work on finding some excuses for that.
Pierre said on 3/May/21
@Tall In The Saddle = my arguments still are better than arguments of 6"7' guessers who try to put Tyson same range height as Magic and also really taller than Deontay for an example.This video with Lucas Browne show Tyson dwarfing Lucas Browne,so = or Lucas isn't clearly close to 6"4' or/and one of this guys stands barefoot and the other guy wear good shoes.Tyson's support leg in this pic on 24/April is the right leg then logically Tyson had the advantage of the carpet.Lucas was tiptoeing on his right foot but bwas bending his knee so finally had not an advantage.And clearly he was looking in poorer posture than Tyson here,his neck standing almost 45 degrees to the horizontal line.In fact all his body is like an S here that is not the case of Tyson.
@Tall In The Saddle = my arguments still are better than arguments of 6"7' guessers who try to put Tyson same range height as Magic and also really taller than Deontay for an example.This video with Lucas Browne show Tyson dwarfing Lucas Browne,so = or Lucas isn't clearly close to 6"4' or/and one of this guys stands barefoot and the other guy wear good shoes.Tyson's support leg in this pic on 24/April is the right leg then logically Tyson had the advantage of the carpet.Lucas was tiptoeing on his right foot but bwas bending his knee so finally had not an advantage.And clearly he was looking in poorer posture than Tyson here,his neck standing almost 45 degrees to the horizontal line.In fact all his body is like an S here that is not the case of Tyson.
JD1996 said on 2/May/21
Tall in the saddle tbh with you in that video he looks a lot taller like 4 inches taller than Lucas Browne it looks a big height advantage.
Tall in the saddle tbh with you in that video he looks a lot taller like 4 inches taller than Lucas Browne it looks a big height advantage.
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