How tall is Andre The Giant - Page 22

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6ft 11.94in (213.2cm)
Rika said on 6/Jun/09
6'10 during his bad back era.
7'0 when he first started wrestling.

Why?...well, he did suffer a bad back before wrestlemania 3. When people started saying he was really 6'10. With that boxing match he had a head over the 6'5 boxer.
Remember, his head is bigger than normal heads.
Rick said on 5/Jun/09
Mikew says on 4/Jun/09
Gotta love Rick's "I've got to admit" comment, which would otherwise imply that he was previously calling for a 7 feet plus Andre, only to be now dissuaded by the Andre/Kiel pic posted by fellow Andre hater JT. Almost as funny as his comment on June 1, where he purports to be "just playing devil's advocate," before, once again, proceeding to downgrade Andre and cast doubt as to the honesty of Andre's trainer.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with having the point of view that Andre was under 7 feet, though I and many others think he was; just that there is no point in pretending to be casually and objectively commenting on evidence as if you are some sort of neutral observer, accompanied by unverified tales of meetings and sightings. Rick,in short, we all know your agenda by now, so you may as well dispense with the formality of pretending to be only now downgrading Andre after seeing the pic with Kiel. You are not fooling anyone.


Yikes! Sounds like you've been hitting the bottle again. Perhaps you should stay away from a computer keyboard when that happens.
Rick said on 5/Jun/09
It makes no sense that you'd give more weight to a comparison photo of Andre/Kiel than a photo of Andre next to a guy over 7'1" (Wilt) where they are standing practically side by side in two different pictures with similar posture. The comparison photo makes no sense anyway because we know by the Wilt picture that Andre in cowboy boots actually comes out a little taller than a 7'1" guy. The Andre/Kiel picture makes Andre look 6'8" barefoot.


Actually it makes perfect sense to me. I'm giving more weight to the Kiel/Andre photo because of the perspectives, distances, angles, and known heights of certain individuals in the pictures. But, as I've said before, I still wouldn't label it definitive.

As for the Andre/Wilt comparison, the picture is misleading if for no other reason than my own perspective of having stood a foot away from Andre around the same time and observing that he was several inches away from the 7' mark. You're saying Andre was almost as tall as Silo Sam in that pic, and having stood next to Sam about a year later, that just wasn't the case...it was Sam who measured about equal with Wilt.
Chaz said on 5/Jun/09
Boss do you know any thing about takeing photos Andre is over a foot nera the camara and side on, and for ever 6''the person is from the other person you have to take off 1'' of height from the person nera the camara Ie Andre,Forget all this crap about this that or someone said this he was this or that,there is a pic of him with a 100% 4'11'' jockey and it is easy to workout he is at most 1'11''taller this is not a ring pic or next someone like hogan who could have been in lefts of 6'4''or 6'7''or god knows what, now at last we have a peak pic of Andre right in front bolt upright no more than 1''between them with the camara at the right height from someone we know was 4'11''both in shoes and im not going even say that you can bet your life Andres shoes that big would have a 2'' heal,and befor anyone says it jocky's boots are not like cowboy boots with 3'' heals thay are 1''at most making him 5''dead as JT's pic shows and Andre without hair in shoes is bearly 6'11''end of story.
Kelso said on 5/Jun/09
Chaz I agree 100%
Boss said on 5/Jun/09
Chaz says on 5/Jun/09
Hogan has never been 6'6''he was at best 6'5''and like the weights Studd was useing in the vid he's a total fake 340lbs 6'7''24'' arms lol yer in he's dreams maybe and Andre was nowhere near Kiel's height,he was shoter than wilt standing nera to the camara,and he was only 7'1/2''at the time,

Here is Wilt Chamberlain himself stating in 1986 that he never lost any height. Wilt was measured 2 times both at 7'1 1/16. The whole 7'0.5 has been proven wrong and the whole paragraph from the book it came from was false stating Wilt wasn't measured since high school when there is a picture of Wilt being measurwed at 7'1 1/16 by two teammates and a doctore who stated he had to construct special equipment to measure Wilt because most people thought Wilt was around 7'3 and just downgraded his height becasuse in basketball being taller means you need less skill considering you can just dunk all day and Wilt wanted to be known for his skill noy his height. Click Here

Andre & Wilt are basically the same height and yes Andre has the footware advantage but anyway you look at it Andre comes out 7' or 6'11.5 depending on how much Wilt is getting from his boots and wig and we know Andre is getting 1.8 inches from his boots and Wilt was 7'1 1/16 in 1986 so he would have to be this height in 1984.Click Here
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This one is done with basic artistic linear not just a set of arbitrary lines.
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Chaz said on 5/Jun/09
Hogan has never been 6'6''he was at best 6'5''and like the weights Studd was useing in the vid he's a total fake 340lbs 6'7''24'' arms lol yer in he's dreams maybe and Andre was nowhere near Kiel's height,he was shoter than wilt standing nera to the camara,and he was only 7'1/2''at the time,
me said on 5/Jun/09
Also in the Van Dyke Comparison Andre has flat wrestling boots and Kiel has on Heeled shoes. IMO they are the same height.
me said on 5/Jun/09
There are other comparisons with richard Kiel/Dick Van Dyke & Andre/Backlund which show Andre to be the same height as Kiel. Why not post that pic, JT?????
T said on 5/Jun/09
Got it. Very well stated. Andre the 6'10-11" giant just doesn't quite cut it like Andre the 7' giant. Problem is, I have the nagging suspicion that it's quite possible certain other individuals like Frenchy Bernard think the same as you do.

thank you. about Frenchy Bernard, that may be true and it may be false but we will probably never know. So for now we have to go by pics of Andre and they are all over the place as far as height differences. but if hogan was really 6'6 at wrestlemania than there is no doubt andre is 7 foot.

hey JT, Big john studd looks f'n huge in that vid. ill say mcmahon was 6'1 there and studd was at least 6'7! maybe 6'8. he might of been wearing lifts, idk, but by his stature I would never call him a normal 6'5-6'6 guy. I went into a prograsm called gimp and measured where mcmahon was and he looks like his is right at the bottom of his nose. we will say his forehead is 4 inches and his nose is 3. that makes him 6'8. but like I said im not sure about footwear. but that would make nash 7 foot in those pics and show about 7'1. I would give them all that height with boots on.
Chaz said on 5/Jun/09
The truth is Andre is standing bolt upright peak with a 100% 4'11''guy and in shoes he is 1'11''taller thay him in shoes,End of story,Andre was 210cm 6'10.75''and arownd 440-500lbs. No Mills Darden but one of biggist men of all time.
Mikew said on 4/Jun/09
Rick says on 3/Jun/09
Seeing it for the first time, I
LV said on 4/Jun/09
It makes no sense that you'd give more weight to a comparison photo of Andre/Kiel than a photo of Andre next to a guy over 7'1" (Wilt) where they are standing practically side by side in two different pictures with similar posture. The comparison photo makes no sense anyway because we know by the Wilt picture that Andre in cowboy boots actually comes out a little taller than a 7'1" guy. The Andre/Kiel picture makes Andre look 6'8" barefoot.
Rick said on 4/Jun/09
dicksock says on 4/Jun/09
If you think one comparison pic is better evidence than Frenchy's statement then you are so biased and crazy. Frenchy was his best friend and knew Andre more than anyone. He said 7'0.5". Why would he say that? If Big John Studd's best friend came out and said he was really 6'6.5", would you agrue?


Crazy...perhaps. Biased...no. However, I do feel that the Keil/Andre comparison pic represents what I observed standing next to each of these individuals.

It all comes down to basic facts from my perspective...I stood next to Andre around the same time the pics with Wilt were taken and Andre was not the height you and others are assuming he was...I don't care what those pics appear to show. He was around 6'10" and I have several other individuals whose judgment I trust who will agree. I have no bias and no agenda.

And yes, if Studd's best friend came forward and said he was 6'6.5", I would agree because that's just about how tall he appeared standing next to him. That's not the case with Andre...and forgive me if I take my word over Frenchy's.
Rick said on 4/Jun/09
dicksock says on 4/Jun/09 If you think one comparison pic is better evidence than Frenchy's statement then you are so biased and crazy. Frenchy was his best friend and knew Andre more than anyone. He said 7'0.5". Why would he say that? If Big John Studd's best friend came out and said he was really 6'6.5", would you agrue?
Rick said on 4/Jun/09
sidewalk says on 4/Jun/09
I'm glad people are coming to the realization that comparison pics are not completely accurate. Andre's height has come out differently in comparison pics and as I said before the angle, distance from camera need to be the same to be accurate.

Agreed. Which is why I feel that the Andre/Kiel comparison is more compelling since it appears to meet most of the criteria for a more accurate, although not quite definitive, evaluation.
Rick said on 4/Jun/09
T says on 4/Jun/09
Rick says on 3/Jun/09

the "let's give Andre 7' out of respect" pleas.


Ok I think I worded that wrong and didnt give my full thought.

When you talk about giants, who is the first person to come to mind? Andre. there is enough evidence to prove he was 7 foot and over and there is some evidence of him being under, even at his peak. Andre just isnt Andre without being a 7 foot giant. yea half an inch, but if this site has the credibility that most people give it how could you say Andre was 6'11.5 peak? Bottom line is, he wasnt a 6'11.5 giant, Thats not Andre. ANDRE IS A 7 FOOT GIANT!!!
GET IT!? GOT IT!? GOOD!!!!


Got it. Very well stated. Andre the 6'10-11" giant just doesn't quite cut it like Andre the 7' giant. Problem is, I have the nagging suspicion that it's quite possible certain other individuals like Frenchy Bernard think the same as you do.
George said on 4/Jun/09
Andre 6'11.5" ? give him 7'0". Or I might as well list myself as 6ft 11.5"
I admit I am no taller than the Giant.
Andre 6'11.5"-7'0" (212-213)
George 6'11.5"-7'0" (212-213)
my brother is an actual seven footer, I come up half an inch short.
Boss said on 4/Jun/09
Here is Andre from France in the late 60's being billed at 2.14m. This just supports Frenchy's claim more. Some promotions were probably just going with the old billing of Andre or the billing they had for him at the time because he was billed at 6'10 at age 18 and was growing by the month let alone the year.
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Boss said on 4/Jun/09
Vegas says on 4/Jun/09
Boss says on 4/Jun/09
Frenchy claims 7'0.5 which is the most realistic claim we have considering all the evidence and the fact that his story all adds up where other claims just don't.

heres where it doesn't add up, you claim that frenchy said that andre was measured at 7'0.5 age 22, making that 1968 or 1969 and yet we have evidence of andre being listed at 6'10 by wrestling promotions in england in mid 1969 age 23. so after being measured they still downgrade the guy by 2.5 inches??


They are just billings. They could have been going by earlier billings for Andre. Andre was also billed at 7 ft at age 19 and 2.14m as Jean Ferre from France around the same time as I have already shown. Frenchy Bernard is a excellent source considering his closeness and knowledge of Andre which would be alot more than anyone here has to offer.
Vegas said on 4/Jun/09
Boss says on 4/Jun/09
Frenchy claims 7'0.5 which is the most realistic claim we have considering all the evidence and the fact that his story all adds up where other claims just don't.

heres where it doesn't add up, you claim that frenchy said that andre was measured at 7'0.5 age 22, making that 1968 or 1969 and yet we have evidence of andre being listed at 6'10 by wrestling promotions in england in mid 1969 age 23. so after being measured they still downgrade the guy by 2.5 inches??
sidewalk said on 4/Jun/09
I'm glad people are coming to the realization that comparison pics are not completely accurate. Andre's height has come out differently in comparison pics and as I said before the angle, distance from camera need to be the same to be accurate. Comparisons only give a very good idea of how all someone may be. WE all do the same simply by looking at numerous pics.
T said on 4/Jun/09
Rick says on 3/Jun/09

the "let's give Andre 7' out of respect" pleas.


Ok I think I worded that wrong and didnt give my full thought.

When you talk about giants, who is the first person to come to mind? Andre. there is enough evidence to prove he was 7 foot and over and there is some evidence of him being under, even at his peak. Andre just isnt Andre without being a 7 foot giant. yea half an inch, but if this site has the credibility that most people give it how could you say Andre was 6'11.5 peak? Bottom line is, he wasnt a 6'11.5 giant, Thats not Andre. ANDRE IS A 7 FOOT GIANT!!!
GET IT!? GOT IT!? GOOD!!!!
Boss said on 4/Jun/09
dicksock says on 4/Jun/09
Rick says on 3/Jun/09
Seeing it for the first time, I've got to admit that the Andre/Kiel comparison is pretty impressive with its similar camera perspectives, poses, and subjects basically lining up to their known heights when scaled. Probably still not definitive proof for purposes of this board, but much more persuasive I feel then most other comparison pics, Frenchy Bernard testimonials, and the "let's give Andre 7' out of respect" pleas.

If you think one comparison pic is better evidence than Frenchy's statement then you are so biased and crazy. Frenchy was his best friend and knew Andre more than anyone. He said 7'0.5". Why would he say that? If Big John Studd's best friend came out and said he was really 6'6.5", would you agrue? That's the equivelant. And people are "pleaing" that Andre be changed to 7'0.5" because that was his peak height. Thats what dozens of pictures/videos show that is what his best friend said. Ernie Ladd said he was taller than 6'9 "by far". Comparison pics are not proof of anything. If they were then they would all say the same thing, but they don't. Some leave Andre taller than others. Just like the comparison pic between Haystacks and Andre. Andre looks about 6" taller than a peak Haystacks. That pic is just as credible as the Keil/Andre one. Why don't you take that as fact?


Exactly , the most solid of all the evidence points to 7' peak. Meltzer actually estimated Andre at 7'0 1/16 not 6'11.5 when comparing him to Wilt because we know Wilt stated he never lost any height. He is the same height as Wilt and would have at most a 1 inch more than likely .8 inch because Wilt's boots and wig would give him minimal .8 inch and more than likely 1 inch and Andre was getting 1.8 inch from his boots. Even the people who are going to argue it was more like a 2 inch difference which is not Andre would still come out 6'11 1/16 in 1984. Also Andre outweighed Wilt by 200 pounds and with his condition would lose more height over the day than Wilt who was in good shape. Andre himself claims 7'1.5 and his trainer claims he measured him at this height. Frenchy claims 7'0.5 which is the most realistic claim we have considering all the evidence and the fact that his story all adds up where other claims just don't.
dicksock said on 4/Jun/09
Rick says on 3/Jun/09
Seeing it for the first time, I've got to admit that the Andre/Kiel comparison is pretty impressive with its similar camera perspectives, poses, and subjects basically lining up to their known heights when scaled. Probably still not definitive proof for purposes of this board, but much more persuasive I feel then most other comparison pics, Frenchy Bernard testimonials, and the "let's give Andre 7' out of respect" pleas.

If you think one comparison pic is better evidence than Frenchy's statement then you are so biased and crazy. Frenchy was his best friend and knew Andre more than anyone. He said 7'0.5". Why would he say that? If Big John Studd's best friend came out and said he was really 6'6.5", would you agrue? That's the equivelant. And people are "pleaing" that Andre be changed to 7'0.5" because that was his peak height. Thats what dozens of pictures/videos show that is what his best friend said. Ernie Ladd said he was taller than 6'9 "by far". Comparison pics are not proof of anything. If they were then they would all say the same thing, but they don't. Some leave Andre taller than others. Just like the comparison pic between Haystacks and Andre. Andre looks about 6" taller than a peak Haystacks. That pic is just as credible as the Keil/Andre one. Why don't you take that as fact?
Johnny said on 4/Jun/09
May I just ask a question ? Why can Peter Mayhew (according to this site) lose 3 inches in height and Andre not ?
Rick said on 3/Jun/09
Seeing it for the first time, I've got to admit that the Andre/Kiel comparison is pretty impressive with its similar camera perspectives, poses, and subjects basically lining up to their known heights when scaled. Probably still not definitive proof for purposes of this board, but much more persuasive I feel then most other comparison pics, Frenchy Bernard testimonials, and the "let's give Andre 7' out of respect" pleas.
Chaz said on 3/Jun/09
You all may be liveing in dream worlds,but it is clear Andre was no more than 1'11''taller in shoes,than a 4'11'guy in shoes,and nowhere nere the height of Richard Kiel,who was only 7'1.5''.if anthing he's height should be lowerd to 210cm 6'10.75' on this page,cos he was no taller in the evening than that.old or otherwise,and over the years i have been told by at least 6 pepole who sew more of the pics of Andre v Haystacks and there was no more than 2''diff in height,if that,and ive seen Haystacks and he was at the very most 6'8.5''he was about 2''taller than a 200cm door in he's boots ,not that they had much of a sole,evening height,and even if we add 1''for there morning height Andre would still not be a real 7 footer.but to me Both Andre and Haystacks were still real Giants,
Daniel_Sweden said on 3/Jun/09
yeah give andre rene rousimoff 7 feet..he was every bit of it at his peak..
Rantsrob said on 3/Jun/09
aarod says on 3/Jun/09
you guys keep forgetting the most compelling evidence, the evidence provided by dave meltzer. anyways, melzter closely analyzed the photo, im sure that he would have taken into account the cowboy boots, because he is always trying to downplay andre's height, and even so, he gave andre 6'11.5" BASED on an incorrect height for wilt chamberlain. with wilt's height corrected to what it really is, nearly and inch taller, you have to correct Andre's height as well, to at LEAST 7'0.25"

Rob, this is reasonable enough to put Andre's height to 7'.025", no?

come on rob, its been a while since you really glanced at this thread.

How much satisfaction would it really give you if he was upgraded 0.75''....
Boss said on 3/Jun/09
Also Rob himself states he has measured at 5'8 3/4 morning height and 5'8 flat. So Andre's peak moring height and his height in ring and pics which would be late day to night considering he was out drinking all night could be logically up to a 1.5" loss considering a 5'8ish 150 pound Rob can lose 3/4 in a day. Andre weighed between 350 - 550 pounds and his joints were weakend and his cartilage was worn down from his condition. So essentially if you beleive Andre looks 6'10 than a peak morning height could be 6'11.5. This has to be considered for a true peak height for Andre not just how he looked or didn't look in some pics.
Boss said on 3/Jun/09
Wilt Chamberlain himself states that at age 50 3 years after the Andre the Giant pics he was still 7'1 1/16 and that he never lost any height. People actually thought and still think Wilt was taller than 7'1 1/16. So the whole 7'0.5" thing was not correct information putting Andre at 7'0 1/16 by Meltzer's own estimation. I mean the proof is there if you just read it.
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Halb said on 3/Jun/09
I reckon Warlord was 6'3
aarod said on 3/Jun/09
you guys keep forgetting the most compelling evidence, the evidence provided by dave meltzer. anyways, melzter closely analyzed the photo, im sure that he would have taken into account the cowboy boots, because he is always trying to downplay andre's height, and even so, he gave andre 6'11.5" BASED on an incorrect height for wilt chamberlain. with wilt's height corrected to what it really is, nearly and inch taller, you have to correct Andre's height as well, to at LEAST 7'0.25"

Rob, this is reasonable enough to put Andre's height to 7'.025", no?

come on rob, its been a while since you really glanced at this thread.
aarod said on 3/Jun/09
Terry scpinksi, or however you spell his last name, is the "Warlord". he lives down here in pompano beach, and runs security teams for big events as well wreslte in local promotions. i have met him in person several times, hes a nice guy, and he is every bit of 6'5" in flip flops. AND he is still MASSIVE. i have never seen a bigger musclebound man in my life.
aarod said on 3/Jun/09
willi is in boots in that picture
Boss said on 3/Jun/09
JT only does comparisons to support his own claims. Using the worst camera angles and most are done with out of prime Andre. If Andre comes out too tall in a comparision he won't use it. Well JT, look up at what the height says 6'11.5. So only in your little world and very few others are comparisons worth anything. If they were so convincing than don't you think Rob would have changed Andre's height.
Boss said on 3/Jun/09
i-Clarke-93 says on 3/Jun/09
The fact that Andre was measured at 7'0.5 in Japan and his best friend Frenchy Bernard who knew Andre better than anyone else did confirmed this , that alone should be enough to upgrade Andre to that height.


Exactly , I mean he gave Frenchy and Jackie the ranch. So that tells you what Andre had to think of Frenchy which must have been quite alot. If Frenchy states Andre was measured at 7'0.5" at 22 years old when being diagnosed for his condition in Japan then what's the issue. He was 6'10 when he died in France and that's where the whole 6'10 came from in the first place. After 250 pounds of adult weight gain , 3 surgeries , poor posture and a lifetime condition which just totally destroyed his body. Andre was hurting bad by the early 80's what the princess bride commentary about Andre where he couldn't even lift the girl in the movie because he was in so much pain. Growth after the growth plates seal is devasting on the human body which happens by 24 or 25 years of age and you can't grow any more vertical. Andre's acromagely was untreated which is just insane considering the consequences of going untreated. Andre would lose height from the fact that his joints couldn't support his massive frame so his body would start to breakdown very rapidly. Andre was taller when he was younger for sure so Frenchy's story all adds up.
Halb said on 3/Jun/09
Andre could have played a good Jaws.
Boss said on 3/Jun/09
T says on 3/Jun/09
please give Andre 7 foot. out of respect!


I second that notion. He looks this height for his peak.
Chaz said on 3/Jun/09
JT thanks, that is the one,there allmost in exact the same pose,I can not see any mere than 6'11''there in shoes and Kiel has he's feet waider apart,it looks about as good a comparason as you will get,camara looks both the same height.no zooming up or down like in ring pics,or looking down at a shoter man.
i-Clarke-93 said on 3/Jun/09
The fact that Andre was measured at 7'0.5 in Japan and his best friend Frenchy Bernard who knew Andre better than anyone else did confirmed this , that alone should be enough to upgrade Andre to that height.
T said on 3/Jun/09
please give Andre 7 foot. out of respect!
T said on 3/Jun/09
Hey Boss, dont you think the guy that is over 8 feet that lives in either russia or italy, (I forget) should show up to the wwe and tower khali. THAT WOULD BE SWEET!
JT said on 2/Jun/09
Chaz says on 2/Jun/09
I don't belive Andre was 7'1.5''Because it is clear from good comprasons put on here by I think JT,that Andre was at least 2''shorter than 7'1.5''Richard Kiel,and It was a peak Andre not a 1990 one,

This one? Click Here Barbara Bach (barefoot there) is listed pretty much everywhere at 5'7" and Willie Shoemaker at 4'11". Before anyone conveniently claims Shoemaker is in 2 inch heeled boots, he wore a size 2 1/2 shoe, which is a small child's shoe size.
Boss said on 2/Jun/09
The reason Andre went to the doctor in Japan was because he was 22 years old and still growing. Giants are known to grow until 22 years of age but can grow up until 24 or so when the growth plates seal because growth hormones are constant in giants and in Andre's case they never stopped secreting growth hormones hence acromagely which is gigantism continued into adulthood because of excess growth hormones. When Andre couldn't grow any taller his head still gained inches because of thickening of the skull and extended chin and forehead and also caused Andre's hands , feet , internal organs and chest cavity to grow throughout his life. Wadlow was 22 and still growing vertical. Also if you watched the giants biography I posted you'll see many facts about gigantism and acromegaly.
Boss said on 2/Jun/09
Anonymous says on 2/Jun/09
Several 5'11 guys has looked taller next to Andre, than what "buddy baker" did.


Yeah because Andre looks every bit of 7' with 6'6 Buddy Baker.
Boss said on 2/Jun/09
Here is Andre's trainer Edouard Carpentier and he was billed at 5'10.Click Here
Boss said on 2/Jun/09
Here is Andre at age 19 years at 7 ft. Click Here

Here is Andre from around the same time being billed at 2.14m. Click Here
Boss said on 2/Jun/09
Here is what Andre looked like with a 5'10 guy Bobby Hull and Hull is on higher ground which would nullify any footware advantage and Andre is leaning over.
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Anonymous said on 2/Jun/09
Several 5'11 guys has looked taller next to Andre, than what "buddy baker" did.
Chaz said on 2/Jun/09
I don't belive Andre was 7'1.5''Because it is clear from good comprasons put on here by I think JT,that Andre was at least 2''shorter than 7'1.5''Richard Kiel,and It was a peak Andre not a 1990 one,
JT said on 2/Jun/09
September 1966 billing (age 20): 208 cm. and ~300 lbs. Click Here
JT said on 2/Jun/09
Vegas says on 1/Jun/09
Frenchy Bernard this Frenchy Bernard that, what about andres trainer who measured him at 7'1.5 who stated this in interviews, why are we now ignoring this old proof??

Of course that's not the real Vegas poster, especially given the juvenile writing style. Plus, Andre's "trainer" was not a real "trainer" but instead pro wrestler Ed Carpentier, a former gymnast who was around 5'7".
Rick said on 1/Jun/09
Boss says on 1/Jun/09
Frenchy seems like a very simple and honest man and the fact that he just could have said 7'4 like alot would have he stated 7'0.5" peak and 6'9-6-10ish at the end because he couldn't stand any straighter because of his condition.Frenchy has nothing to gain by stating this and he knew Andre better than anyone and wasn't protecting any kind of kayfabe. There is a picture of Andre being measured by his trainer so it's not just a claim it's a fact that he measured him. Now at what height is not a fact the trainer claims 7'1.5". Andre's trainer probably just added an inch to Andre's peak height.


Just playing devil's advocate here, but couldn't Frenchy have just added an inch or so to Andre's height too? And maybe the trainer added 2"? What did the trainer have to gain by embellishing? Frenchy may seem like a simple an honest man, but...how do you know that for certain? Are you saying the trainer wasn't a simple and honest man? How much better do you know Frenchie than the trainer?

My point is, drawing conclusions from uncertainties and unknowns is suspect at best. I'm not saying that Andre wasn't 7' at some time in his life, but using this example to support it is just about as concrete as the myriad of picture comparisons.
Danimal said on 1/Jun/09
Vegas says on 1/Jun/09
Frenchy Bernard this Frenchy Bernard that, what about andres trainer who measured him at 7'1.5 who stated this in interviews, why are we now ignoring this old proof??

Boss wasn't around when that circulated.

Warlord was nowhere clos to 6'5".
Boss2 said on 1/Jun/09
I agree with Boss, he/she makes a good point.
Boss said on 1/Jun/09
Andre in his prime.

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Andre later in life. There is a few inches difference. Andre was 6'10 at death so would be around 7' peak anyway you look at it.

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Boss said on 1/Jun/09
Here is Andre being measured by his trainer.
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Boss said on 1/Jun/09
Frenchy Bernard is the best source we have for a peak Andre. Bernard stated Andre was measured in Japan at 22 when being diagnosed for his condition. Frenchy's story all adds up because we know Andre was in Japan being dianosed for his condition at 22 years of age and Andre chose not to be treated. Frenchy seems like a very simple and honest man and the fact that he just could have said 7'4 like alot would have he stated 7'0.5" peak and 6'9-6-10ish at the end because he couldn't stand any straighter because of his condition. Frenchy has nothing to gain by stating this and he knew Andre better than anyone and wasn't protecting any kind of kayfabe. There is a picture of Andre being measured by his trainer so it's not just a claim it's a fact that he measured him. Now at what height is not a fact the trainer claims 7'1.5". Andre's trainer probably just added an inch to Andre's peak height.
Halb said on 1/Jun/09
I reckon Warlord was 6'3.
Vegas said on 1/Jun/09
Frenchy Bernard this Frenchy Bernard that, what about andres trainer who measured him at 7'1.5 who stated this in interviews, why are we now ignoring this old proof??
omar g said on 1/Jun/09
i think andre was probably 2 inches taller than taker in 1991. remember there are pictures of andre with mean gene from interviews in 1991 and andre stood looking pretty tall.i think andre still was 6'10 in 1991.i remember seiing andre walkind side by side with the warlord in 1989 walking into the arena and warlord was big and pretty tall,but andre totally dwarfed him.andre was an awesome sight.how tall was the warlord? maybe 6'5ish?
Daniel_Sweden said on 1/Jun/09
first of all how in the hell can someone say that there is only one or two pictures that shows Andre to be 7 feet..there are by far many more pictures that shows him around the 7 feet range..when i say around it is somewhere between 6'11.5 - 7'0.5...second guys like Ric Flair (6'0), Jim Duggan (6'2) Warrior (6'1.5) Tito Santana (6'2) Roddy Piper (6'0.5) Randy Savage (6'0.5) Bob Backlund (6'0.5) Vincent (5'11) are all pretty tall guys and Andre simply towers over them so why couldn't he be a foot taller than them? And how can anybody of a picture see so easy if Andre is 6'10, 6'11 or 7'0 it's not easy to judge if a tall person like Andre is 6'10 or 6'11 or even 7'0.. andre was taller from 1969-1977..Don't forget frpm 1987-1993 he was way past hes prime, had bad posture, couldn't stand straigt, had one or two surgeries and had allready lost a inch or 1
Danimal said on 31/May/09
Richard says on 31/May/09
After all these years on this board there's still only one pic, the black and white which supports an Andre taller than 6'10 and tons of pictures saying otherwise. Two other pics with Wilt showing a 6'10ish Andre.

I remember back in the early nineties just before Andre died WWF announced a match between Andre and the Undertaker... which never happened. I think Andre hurt himself or something. But there has to be photos somewhere in the world with Andre and the undertaker. Andre was there when undertakers career started to take off. Wrestlemania 7, I think that was when Andre went out and helped bossman. Undertaker was in that show as well. If we could find one of those pics...

What would that really prove though? How well a dying Andre stood next to a legit 6'8" man? We already know, in his comparison to Mane in 1990.
dicksock said on 31/May/09
Richard says on 31/May/09
After all these years on this board there's still only one pic, the black and white which supports an Andre taller than 6'10 and tons of pictures saying otherwise. Two other pics with Wilt showing a 6'10ish Andre.

I remember back in the early nineties just before Andre died WWF announced a match between Andre and the Undertaker... which never happened. I think Andre hurt himself or something. But there has to be photos somewhere in the world with Andre and the undertaker. Andre was there when undertakers career started to take off. Wrestlemania 7, I think that was when Andre went out and helped bossman. Undertaker was in that show as well. If we could find one of those pics...

Taker has talked about Andre before. In referencing the Giant Gonzalez, he said the only other person he had to look up at before in the WWF was Andre. It really wouldn't matter because by 1990/1991 Andre was WAY past his prime and couldn't even stand up straight. I believe Andre was 6'10ish when he died. I also think he was 7'0.5" in his prime as Frenchy Bernard said and as DOZENS of pictures and videos prove. Regardless, I have yet to see evidence of a prime Andre under 6'11".
kinggollum said on 31/May/09
Richard says on 31/May/09
After all these years on this board there's still only one pic, the black and white which supports an Andre taller than 6'10 and tons of pictures saying otherwise. Two other pics with Wilt showing a 6'10ish Andre.

I remember back in the early nineties just before Andre died WWF announced a match between Andre and the Undertaker... which never happened. I think Andre hurt himself or something. But there has to be photos somewhere in the world with Andre and the undertaker. Andre was there when undertakers career started to take off. Wrestlemania 7, I think that was when Andre went out and helped bossman. Undertaker was in that show as well. If we could find one of those pics...

There are just as many showing a 7 foot andre as there are showing a 6'10 and under pics of Andre. Just one? I thought you said you been on here for years? I've been here for nearly for even though I took several months away and have seen lots of pics supporting a 7 foot plus andre on here.
Richard said on 31/May/09
After all these years on this board there's still only one pic, the black and white which supports an Andre taller than 6'10 and tons of pictures saying otherwise. Two other pics with Wilt showing a 6'10ish Andre.

I remember back in the early nineties just before Andre died WWF announced a match between Andre and the Undertaker... which never happened. I think Andre hurt himself or something. But there has to be photos somewhere in the world with Andre and the undertaker. Andre was there when undertakers career started to take off. Wrestlemania 7, I think that was when Andre went out and helped bossman. Undertaker was in that show as well. If we could find one of those pics...
Danimal said on 31/May/09
D.animal2009 says on 31/May/09
I say Andre was at best 7'0.5" back in the '70s and '80s.

Rob, this guy is stealing my name. Can you do something about this please?
D.animal2009 said on 31/May/09
I say Andre was at best 7'0.5" back in the '70s and '80s.
Ashman said on 30/May/09
Hey....I found this clip from Night Court (on You Tube) Nuts about Harry Part In it, Kevin Peter Hall (7'2) Richard Moll (6'8) James Cromwell (6'7)....This gives a legitimate comparison on heights....Esp. look at 2:57 of the clip....It's not inconceivable to say Andre wasn't 7'0 at his peak....Your looking at Moll looking back at Hall with not much of a height difference....I've seen similar photos of Andre with other taller people, and the difference is somewhat the same....
dicksock said on 29/May/09
Andre looks about 7' tall next to 6'4" Jesse Ventura in this video on youtube: "Ultimate Warrior Vs Andre The Giant 1/3"

There seems to be around 8" between them.
dicksock said on 29/May/09
JT says on 28/May/09
NASCAR'S Kyle Petty is listed at 6'2" and 195 lbs. He's between Hall and Nash here in Vegas's pic. Click Here He's at the far left with Yao Ming. Click Here He's probably 6'0" to 6'1 tops.

WOW! That's all I can say. Yep, those pics prove 6' to 6'1 tops!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
miko said on 29/May/09
6"11.5 peak and 6"9.75 at death.
Danimal said on 29/May/09
Been on here for 4.5 years. I am finally convinced that Andre at his peak was 7'0 1/4"-7'0.5" barefoot and 7'1.5"-7'2" in shoes. Later on he began to lose height post 1981 imo, slowly going down to 6'11.5" to 6'10.5" and finally around 6'10" at the final stages. Sadly, this is EXACTLY what is happening to The Big Show as well imo.

BTW Daniel Sweden, Jim Duggan was 6'2", Randy Savage was 6'0", Bret Hart was 5'11", Roddy Piper was 6'1.5", Arnold was 6'1.5", Bob Backlund was 6'1", Rick Flair was 5'11" and YES, Vincent was 5'11".
aarod said on 29/May/09
a couple of things:

Baba was measured at 6'6" at 17 guys. he had giantism(acromeagaly),OBVIOUSLY, judging from the size of his forehead. you continue to grow past 17 when you have that condition for sure, so 6'8" for Baba is very likely. Andre has sooo many measurements from when he was younger in his teens too, the tallest of which ive seen is 6'11" at 18. promoters would not always go with the latest measurement either, just whatever had been advertised before, it didnt REALLY matter since most of his opponents were small in comparison back then. And, everytime he would move to a new region, i'm sure he would get re-measured, etc...to say he grew to 7'.05" by 22 is NOT a stretch at all. i personally, grew from 6'0" to 6'2" from age 19-21, and thats where i stopped growing in height.


i think the comparison of wilt having a size 13.5 came from his autobiographical book, which i have read as well. If wilt himself says he only wore a 13.5 shoe, then the shoes he is wearing in those pictures are way to big for his feet, probably because Conan the destroyer was a low budget film to say the least. that would indicate that he has room in them, also indicated by the fact that they fit so loosely on him, yet somehow arnold's shoes fit fairly snug. where did you get that closeup of his footwear from anyways? judging from andre's footwear, yes they are cowboy boots, but notice how much they look liek they will explode from his mass, now take into account that andre weighs 450+ lbs there. i doubt they gave him a 2 inch height advantage, in fact, i would say that they give him a comparable height lift to Wilt's footwear. because of his body weighing down the insole.

anyways, melzter closely analyzed the photo, im sure that he would have taken into account the cowboy boots, and even so, he gave andre 6'11.5" BASED on an incorrect height for wilt chamberlain. with wilt's height corrected to what it really is, nearly and inch taller, you have to correct Andre's height as well, to at LEAST 7'0.25"

Rob, this is reasonable enough to put Andre's height to 7'.025", no?
Chaz said on 29/May/09
Well I think it is totally beliveble that A Acromegalic 500lbs Giant would lose 2''over if life,unlike Hogan who seems to have lost 4''LOL.I think myself Andre would have been at least 7'' out of Bed, because he seems to have been 6'11''in the evening,I lose 2cm over the day and I have never been over 180cm or 240lbs I would find it very hard to belive Andre would not have lost at the very least 3cm over the day,unless he was laying down all day.
Daniel_Sweden said on 29/May/09
i totally agree with you Boss..Andre maybe was 6'10 at death but we all know that he was taller from 1969-1977.. The question is not if andre did lose height the question is how much height did he lose..Andre did really tower over guts like Jim Duggan (6'2.5) Warrior (6'1.5) Randy Savage (6'1) Bret Hart (6'0) Roddy Piper (6'0.5) Arnold Scwarzenegger (6'1.5) Bob Backlund (6'0.5) Ric Flair (6'0) Vincent (5'11) and that was in the 80's where andre had a very bad posture and surgeries and probably already lost a inch. He measured real good up to Wilt Chamberlain who was 7'1 1/16 and there was no footwear advantage for either one of them...Andres close friend and trainer Bernad claims Andre was at his peak 7'0.5...why would he lie..
Boss said on 29/May/09
Here is an excellent documentary on gigantism and acromagely.
Click Here
Boss said on 28/May/09
The fact your trying to say Buddy Baker is not 6'6 proves that Andre looks every bit of 7' in the pic if he is 6'6. Why would one of the greatest Nascar drivers of all time lie about his height. Your starting to sound desperate. Andre was 6'11.5" to 7'0.5" peak 6'10 at the end. He looks this height with 6'6 Buddy Baker , 5'10-5'11 Bobby Hull , 6'1 Backlund , 7'1 1/16 Wilt Chamberlin , 6'1.5 Arnold and many wrestlers and pics and sources that all state 7' or around 7' peak and 6'10 later what they just made it up. When the human body continues to grow after the vertical height is no longer obtainable it starts to break down at a very rapid pace hence acromegaly by thirty years they would already have excrustiating pain because the acromegaly causes nerves in the joints and such to be pinched off causing poor blood circulation and the heart to pump faster because to bones are much larger and thicker than normal this goes the same for the cartilage in the joints and this wears the cartilage down very fast. Andre had gigantism as a child and acromegaly as an adult and chose not to be treated. Most of the giants you see are treated for this condition and are a mess physically and that's with sugery or medication. Andre would be one of the worst cases of the disease since he denied treatment and the fact that he was 450 to 550 pounds for most of his adult life would also just destroy his body very rapidly with his condition. Then there is the three surgeries he had and the fact he was measured at 6'10 at death in France. Also his posture was poor because of it and he never stood like other big men as straight as possibly can and the fact that the camera work today would make Andre look much bigger then the crappy old camera angles we have from Andres era of wrestling.their heads can gain several inches over the average head let alone the head of a 7' giant.
JT said on 28/May/09
NASCAR'S Kyle Petty is listed at 6'2" and 195 lbs. He's between Hall and Nash here in Vegas's pic. Click Here He's at the far left with Yao Ming. Click Here He's probably 6'0" to 6'1 tops.
Anonymous said on 28/May/09
buddy baker comes out the same height next to andre as 6-2 guys like jim duggan and warrior did, that tells you something
Boss said on 28/May/09
Also Baker is looking up at Andre and Andre has his head tilted down looking at Baker.
Boss said on 28/May/09
Andre with 6'6 Buddy Baker. Even if Andre has the footware advantage he still comes out 7'+.
Click Here

Here is Buddy Baker's website which states 6'6 for his height. Nascar drivers don't bill their heights.
Click Here
Rick said on 28/May/09
Mikew says on 28/May/09
Rick: You really got me with that one! It sucks being called out as a liar, doesn't it? I actually feel sorry for you. With that in mind, please feel free to continue to share with us your "meetings" and "conversations" with "wrestling stars and legends." They are, after all, good for a laugh, if nothing else.



Thank you. I'm glad I can elicit a laugh out of you, especially since I have a feeling you're usually laughed at. I will continue to post if I feel inclined to, regardless of your feelings or opinions, since I do have insights to share. Wish we could say the same for you.
Mikew said on 28/May/09
Rick: You really got me with that one! It sucks being called out as a liar, doesn't it? I actually feel sorry for you. With that in mind, please feel free to continue to share with us your "meetings" and "conversations" with "wrestling stars and legends." They are, after all, good for a laugh, if nothing else.
Daniel_Sweden said on 28/May/09
Andre the Giant 213cm peak..(7 feet) don't forget taht guy had a bad posture but he had a very big head..
Rick said on 27/May/09
Mikew says on 26/May/09
Rick: I won't be enligtening you with "tales" about meetings and chats with "wrestling stars and legends" precisely because to do so wouldn't be true. I suggest you follow heed.


I'd love to suggest what you can do, but I don't think my comment would make it to the board, so I'll refrain. Go back to your comic books and yoohoo Mikey.
kinggollum said on 27/May/09
Mikew says on 26/May/09
Rick: I won't be enligtening you with "tales" about meetings and chats with "wrestling stars and legends" precisely because to do so wouldn't be true. I suggest you follow heed.

lol
Boss said on 27/May/09
Andre looks in the 7' area peak in many of these pics with people of known height.
Click Here
JT said on 27/May/09
Vegas says on 26/May/09
....there is a gordon solie/andre comparison there too from 1976 to late 1992, pity andre is hunched over on crutches though


We do have Mean Gene as a constant from 1976 to 1991:
Click Here
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I had also done a comparison photo of Solie/Andre and Solie/Taker:
Click Here Andre
Boss said on 26/May/09
Andre looks in the 7' area with many people of known height.
Click Here
Mikew said on 26/May/09
Rick: I won't be enligtening you with "tales" about meetings and chats with "wrestling stars and legends" precisely because to do so wouldn't be true. I suggest you follow heed.
Anonymous said on 26/May/09
I just saw a Hogan-Andre match from 1987. Hogan was only about 4 inches shorter. I'd say Hogan was around 6'6" peak, Andre looked 6'10" maybe 6'11" max. Definately didn't loko a legit 7 foot. Now Hogan is about 6'3" and 260 back then he was 6'5.5"-6'6"
Danimal said on 26/May/09
hhh says on 26/May/09
hogan was about 6'3'', 275 pounds
andre was about 7'1'', 565 pounds

Hogan IS about 6'3" and 260 pounds.
Vegas said on 26/May/09
andre and vince in 1980 Click Here
vs
andre and vince in 1991 Click Here

there is a gordon solie/andre comparison there too from 1976 to late 1992, pity andre is hunched over on crutches though
hhh said on 26/May/09
hogan was about 6'3'', 275 pounds
andre was about 7'1'', 565 pounds
Boss said on 25/May/09
Here is Giant Warror vs Barbarian.
Click Here


Andre is clearly taller than Giant Warrior not by much but he does have the edge and Andre's posture is horrible. Andre's knees are bent and he is leaning over. Giant Warrior was at least two inches taller than Mane and Mane wore pretty chunky souls on his boots. Andre looks 6'10 1/2 in 1992 with Giant Warrior and Giant Warrior would have a slight footware advantage over Andre.
Click Here

Here is Mane and Nash and they are pretty much the same height. Nash may have a 1/2 inch.
Click Here
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Nash and Big Show
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Ultimate Bad Guy & Big Show.
Click Here

Ultimate Bad Guy & Mane.
Click Here
Danimal said on 24/May/09
Boss says on 24/May/09
Halb says on 24/May/09
I dropped Andre from over 7 feet to 6'10, then back up to 6'11ish, and I think 6'11
Boss said on 24/May/09
Halb says on 24/May/09
I dropped Andre from over 7 feet to 6'10, then back up to 6'11ish, and I think 6'11
Anonymous said on 24/May/09
Andre was not several inches taller than Ladd, he was about 2 inches taller 6'9 to 6'11. Anything more than that is attributed to Andre's afro which is twice as big as Ladd's.
Rick said on 24/May/09
Mikew says on 23/May/09
Rick: Yeah, that's right, I'm jealous of some loser who obviously does make the time to tell tall tales on this site. Good one. Oh, and your latest post regarding Andre and Ladd is Exhibit 10,000 to your agenda, masked behind your tall tales, err meetings/sightings.


Hey, when you get a chance, please enlighten all of us with your observations regarding the wrestling stars and legends you've met and chatted with over the years. I'll be looking forward to it.
Halb said on 24/May/09
I dropped Andre from over 7 feet to 6'10, then back up to 6'11ish, and I think 6'11
Mikew said on 23/May/09
Rick: Yeah, that's right, I'm jealous of some loser who obviously does make the time to tell tall tales on this site. Good one. Oh, and your latest post regarding Andre and Ladd is Exhibit 10,000 to your agenda, masked behind your tall tales, err meetings/sightings.
dicksock said on 23/May/09
Andre the Giant 213cm says on 23/May/09
why couldn't andr be 7 feet at his peak or 6'11.5 he simply towers over 6 feet guys he could easily be one foot taller..andre dwarfes guys like Ric Flair, Roddy Piper, Bret Hart (all of the was 6'0 at their peak) He towers over Warrior (6'1.5) and Duggan (6'2)

Again, someone with great logic. Don't foget 6' tall Macho Man. He DWARFED him. Also, Duggan was/is 6'3". And I always found it odd how much taller an old Andre looked next to Jake Roberts then he looked next to Hogan. Andre always looked 7" taller than Jake...or at least 6". My final estimates for Andre are as follows: 7'0.5"peak 6'11-6'11.5"after back surgery 6'10-6'10.5"at death
Danimal said on 23/May/09
Anonymous says on 22/May/09
hogan 6'5" andre 6'10"

Hi Halb.
Rick said on 23/May/09
Boss says on 22/May/09
Here is Andre vs Ernie Ladd and Andre is several inches taller than 6'9 Ladd.
Click Here


A few observations. If you keep an eye on Ladd throughout the match, the few times that he is on his feet, take notice how he never stands completely straight...he always seems to move with his knees bent more than normal, slicing probably several inches off his height. Regardless of this fact, I don't believe there's a defining moment in this entire video where you can reliably even attempt to judge height between them. Even if there was, Ladd would first need to correct his posture which he never seems to do throughout the entire match. Perhaps his being questioned years later about being asked to appear shorter than Andre is evident in this video. To be asked that question, there must have been a rumor floating around somewhere to that effect. Hey, they made Andre appear taller by having him stand on a box. Who knows.
Andre the Giant 213cm said on 23/May/09
why couldn't andr be 7 feet at his peak or 6'11.5 he simply towers over 6 feet guys he could easily be one foot taller..andre dwarfes guys like Ric Flair, Roddy Piper, Bret Hart (all of the was 6'0 at their peak) He towers over Warrior (6'1.5) and Duggan (6'2)
alex_scandinavia said on 23/May/09
don't forget when compare Hogan vs Andre (1987-1988) that was a peak time for Hogan he didn't lose any height only weight since 1978-1980..Hogan was much heavier and stronger at the gym back in 1979 but his height was the same when he wrestled andre from 1987 to late 1988.. Hogan with a good posture, footwear advantage and at his peak height with a lot confidence on the other side an andre who is sadly but true on his way down..andre had 1987-1988 a very bad posture, he couldn't stand straight because of his back and knee pains..He had at least one surgery..He had lost maybe a whole inch ( it looks like more because of the bad posture) he was no longer agile like in the 70's when Hogan wasn't a big name..he suffered from obesity, just look at the pain and all the sweat droping from his head.

1987 Wrestlemania

Hulk Hogan a legit 6'5.5 (197 cm) barefoot (his peak height)
Andre the Giant 6'10.5 (209,5 cm) barefoot ( he was 6'10 when he died and 550 pounds)

Andres peak height in the range of 6'11 - 7'0 (211 - 213cm)and no less or more..

just like at andre 1969 or in the 70's
Halb said on 23/May/09
Anonymous says on 22/May/09

WEll said ANon:D
Boss said on 22/May/09
Here is Bearden as Giant Warrior vs Kamala.
Click Here
Anonymous said on 22/May/09
hogan 6'5" andre 6'10"
Boss said on 22/May/09
Here is Andre vs Ernie Ladd and Andre is several inches taller than 6'9 Ladd.
Click Here
Boss said on 22/May/09
Andre with very bad posture was the same height or a little taller than Jeff "Butch" Bearden aka Giant Warrior who was Tyler Mane's tag team partner in Land of Giants Click Here
. Mane was billed at 6'10 and wore chuncky souls on his boots. Jeff "Butch" Bearden biiled at 7' and is clearly a couple of inches taller than Mane even with Mane's boots. Andre in 1992 was the same height or taller than Jeff "Butch" Bearden and Andre is bent over with horrible posture in the pic.
Click Here
Rick said on 22/May/09
Mikew says on 21/May/09
Rick: I guess you don't get the point. Obviously, IF your tales were true, then you would have a perspective worth considering, though still far from dispositive. In this case, however, what I am saying is that you are a liar, with your transparent agenda being evidence in support thereof.


I can assure you my friend that I have much better things to do than search out boards such as this and get my rocks off by posting tall tales. I have a pretty good insight into how tall people such as Andre and Monsoon were because I stood next to them...you'll never have that opportunity, so I can understand that your demeaning replies are just one way for you to mask your jealousy.
Boss said on 22/May/09
Here close to the end the host asks Hogan if he would worry about having to wrestle someone. Of couse he tells an good Andre story. It sounds kinda funny but you can actually see the fear in Hogan's eyes. Click Here
Sir Dude said on 22/May/09
Has anyone noticed Hogan was huge in comparison to Vince in the 80s. When they had their wrestling match around 2004, they were about the same height, Hogan a bit taller than Vince. Hogan, has shrunk loads! Andre was a giant man, he was easily over the 7ft area.
Rantsrob said on 22/May/09
Anonymous says on 22/May/09
I guess I've been on this site a year or two now. Some haven't been on that long and some have been on in a long time. Regardless, there's A LOT of anger here. I mean you can't minorly disagree with someone anymore without someone else freaking out. I think this website can be a lot of fun, but why do some of you take it so seriously?

I'm not going to name anyone specific because honestly a little bit of everyone is doing it. It's one thing to disagree, but particularly on this page, I feel like if we were in a room together anything that wasn't nailed to the ground would be thrown at anyone who has an opinion of their own!

I've been trying to stay out of this drama but I really like this site and I honestly and legitimately care. The only reason I'm posting anonymously is because (1) I would still like to stay drama free and (2) I would still like to post here in the future without being chastised by someone saying, "I feel like you were talking about me!" If that's how you feel, then maybe you should take my advice.

The truth is, some people on here will have an opinion and never post a pic to prove it. They'll say something outrageous that's bound to bother you. Rather than typing in all caps, just post a picture to show your point. If you're so secure in your opinion, that's all you need to do.

My point is, of all the things bothering you in your life, why do you let THIS bother you? It wouldn't kill you to be nice to a person who disagrees with you or to even be nice to a person who isn't nice to you. If a one person is mean and the other person is nice back, which one is better? Which one is more mature?

Bottom line: CALM DOWN. They're just heights and life's too short and let yourself be blessed :>)

Shut up.
dicksock said on 22/May/09
"The Ernie LAdd interview is good, but it is hearsay, as others have said, we don't know know for sure."

The Ernie Ladd interview isn't hearsay. Ernie Ladd was a 6'9" man who wrestled Andre in his prime. He specifically said that Andre was taller than 6'9" "by far". Most rational people would assume that he said by far instead of 7'4" because he was trying to protect Andre's legend but still give us insight into his true height. Again, he wouldn't say Andre was taller than 6'9" by far if he just meant an inch. I don't know exactly what by far means but it is more than one inch. Again, if Frenchy Bernard is claiming 7'0.5" his bio gives him 7' and this site gives him 6'11.5" as does Ernie Ladd and does Jim Duggan and Dave Meltzer gives him 6'11.5" then I'd say the odds are great that he was above 6'10".
Danimal said on 22/May/09
Halb says on 22/May/09
HAs anyone got a good pic of Baba and Hogan?

You're kidding right? there was one provided recently where Baba has 2-3" on Hogan.
Boss said on 22/May/09
Here Wilt Chambelin states at 50 years old he never lost any height that he knew of proving any 7'0.5" claim wrong. So Wilt 7'1 1/16 with Andre than by Meltzer's own estimation Andre would be 7'0 1/16. So the book larger than life is true and the book the Rivalry is wrong.
Click Here
Anonymous said on 22/May/09
I guess I've been on this site a year or two now. Some haven't been on that long and some have been on in a long time. Regardless, there's A LOT of anger here. I mean you can't minorly disagree with someone anymore without someone else freaking out. I think this website can be a lot of fun, but why do some of you take it so seriously?

I'm not going to name anyone specific because honestly a little bit of everyone is doing it. It's one thing to disagree, but particularly on this page, I feel like if we were in a room together anything that wasn't nailed to the ground would be thrown at anyone who has an opinion of their own!

I've been trying to stay out of this drama but I really like this site and I honestly and legitimately care. The only reason I'm posting anonymously is because (1) I would still like to stay drama free and (2) I would still like to post here in the future without being chastised by someone saying, "I feel like you were talking about me!" If that's how you feel, then maybe you should take my advice.

The truth is, some people on here will have an opinion and never post a pic to prove it. They'll say something outrageous that's bound to bother you. Rather than typing in all caps, just post a picture to show your point. If you're so secure in your opinion, that's all you need to do.

My point is, of all the things bothering you in your life, why do you let THIS bother you? It wouldn't kill you to be nice to a person who disagrees with you or to even be nice to a person who isn't nice to you. If a one person is mean and the other person is nice back, which one is better? Which one is more mature?

Bottom line: CALM DOWN. They're just heights and life's too short and let yourself be blessed :>)
Halb said on 22/May/09
HAs anyone got a good pic of Baba and Hogan?
Halb said on 22/May/09
Assumptions are pretty worthless, though it does give an indication of your reasoning power;) What I provide is unbiased, I don't automatically believe all the higher estimates and dismiss the lower ones, like some;)). Shoot down stories? If they weren't so weak they could not be shot down. Moonyham has stated ANdre was 7'2, he may have changed his mind and dropped it to 7 feet flat, same way Meltzer changed his height for ANdre. As for the other link, it contradicts itself by giving two different heights, hardly very hard to shoot either of them down:D
I also emailed Meltzer, he gave me a short answer which I posted here a couple of times a while ago. The Ernie LAdd interview is good, but it is hearsay, as others have said, we don't know know for sure. We have two French measurements, one you have no trouble believing in, one you won't believe it. If Meltzer can clear up the year it was taken that is fine, and if you want to believe there is only one that is fine, but it is not fact. We also don't know that ANdre lost height over his 'entire' life. Chris reckons he lost some right at the end, and the WM2 announcer places Andre at 6'9.
Mikew said on 21/May/09
Rick: I guess you don't get the point. Obviously, IF your tales were true, then you would have a perspective worth considering, though still far from dispositive. In this case, however, what I am saying is that you are a liar, with your transparent agenda being evidence in support thereof.
Anonymous said on 21/May/09
macho man is 6ft 4 Click Here
alex_scandinavia said on 21/May/09
Danimal says on 21/May/09
i-Clarke-93 says on 21/May/09
If Baba was only 6'6 then Hogan was no more than 6'3.5 - 6'4 at his peak which of course is ridiculous. Hogan was 6'5.5 - 6'6 and Baba was easily taller than him. Nothing less than 6'8 for Baba.

And 1990 was far from Baba's peak. JT has a hidden agenda. He wants baba shorter so that andre and hogan can be be lowered as well.

i agree with you if baba was 6'6 then hogan at his peak was 6'3.5 and then sid Justice/vicious is "only" 6'5 because he had 1
Boss said on 21/May/09
Danimal says on 21/May/09
i-Clarke-93 says on 21/May/09
If Baba was only 6'6 then Hogan was no more than 6'3.5 - 6'4 at his peak which of course is ridiculous. Hogan was 6'5.5 - 6'6 and Baba was easily taller than him. Nothing less than 6'8 for Baba.

And 1990 was far from Baba's peak. JT has a hidden agenda. He wants baba shorter so that andre and hogan can be be lowered as well.

You are correct my friend.
Danimal said on 21/May/09
i-Clarke-93 says on 21/May/09
If Baba was only 6'6 then Hogan was no more than 6'3.5 - 6'4 at his peak which of course is ridiculous. Hogan was 6'5.5 - 6'6 and Baba was easily taller than him. Nothing less than 6'8 for Baba.

And 1990 was far from Baba's peak. JT has a hidden agenda. He wants baba shorter so that andre and hogan can be be lowered as well.
dicksock said on 21/May/09
i-Clarke-93 says on 21/May/09
If Baba was only 6'6 then Hogan was no more than 6'3.5 - 6'4 at his peak which of course is ridiculous. Hogan was 6'5.5 - 6'6 and Baba was easily taller than him. Nothing less than 6'8 for Baba.

You are correct sir.
Boss said on 21/May/09
Halb you are the biggest Meltzer fan I've ever seen. I mean you don't provide anything and all you do is shoot down the people who do provide links to good stories , newspapers , articles , pics and vids. I emailed Mike Mooneyham and he stated that as far as he could acertain Andre was 7' for his peak or just a hair over and I can provide the email and Mooneyham who is one of the most respected writers in wrestling never had a hidden agenda like say selling books about dead wrestlers and bringing up any bit of dirt he can find on them , I mean how tasteless can you get and isn't the book named Tributes not the National Inquirer because that last thing he is doing for these wrestlers is paying any kind of tribute. He is just taking advantage of and cashing in on all of the tragedy that's taken place in wrestling over the past couple of decades. I emailed Meltzer about Andre being measured in Japan at 22 years of age when being diagnosed for his condition and the fact that he was measured at 6'10 at his death and the fact that he said Ernie Ladd and Andre were the same height. So i provided Meltzer with all the information to back it up such as the France measurement at death in which I told him this is where his source probably got the 6'10 measurement in the first place and the sincere Ernie Ladd interview which just makes Meltzer's estimation of Ladd/Andre wrong and the fact that Andre was 6'10 at death and lost height over his entire life which is stated many places and visible through photos and such. His reponse was very interesting stuff and that he wasn't aware of the Japan measurement and that Andre/Ladd looked around the same height because Ladd had longer legs but Andre was taller and he seemed very interested in the email which I can provide. I have a couple of 6'6 friends and they don't look as tall as Giant Baba. Baba was measured at 6'6 in 1955 at 17 years of age.
i-Clarke-93 said on 21/May/09
If Baba was only 6'6 then Hogan was no more than 6'3.5 - 6'4 at his peak which of course is ridiculous. Hogan was 6'5.5 - 6'6 and Baba was easily taller than him. Nothing less than 6'8 for Baba.
Halb said on 21/May/09
Steve says on 21/May/09
Boss those are excellent sources and all are consistent that Baba was 6'8 peak

Except they are not. Mooneyham also put ANdre at 7'2 when he started:D, and if you check the first link, at the bottom it says Baba was 6'6.
"Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards
Height 200 cm (6 ft 6 in)"
Steve said on 21/May/09
Boss those are excellent sources and all are consistent that Baba was 6'8 peak which I believe strongly, as he didnt look 6'6 as some people claim. To anyone who has been analysing height, you should be able to see that Baba looks taller than your average 6'6 guy. I dont know what Andre was exactly, but Baba was 6'8....probably would make Andre 6'10 as he looked 2 inches taller..
JT said on 21/May/09
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Halb says on 20/May/09
"Ronnie Russell says on 7/Mar/09
your analysis is flawed, first off, there is another picture of this in black and white where andre does not have his head down, hes actually standing with good posture, and he appears significantly taller"

I think your analysis is flawed. Wilts boots don't give as much, JT has shown this....

Click Here Probably at 1.5" advantage. Plus, Wilt had a wider stance in both the color and B&W photos.

Regarding the comment below that Wilt had size 13 shoes and Andre size 24, these don't look like size 13s here. Click Here They are probably more like size 17 or more. IIRC, Andre's actual shoe size was 18-19, like Big Show's. Khali's are probably in that range as well, maybe a little larger.
kinggollum said on 20/May/09
mike says on 20/May/09
i,ve been reviewing the khali/hogan staredown,and the hogan andre staredown and have come to the conclusion that khali would be 3-4 inches taller than andre,so andre around 6'10" i say.

Yup, a 50 plus Hogan with Khali vs a peak Hogan with broken down Andre.
Anonymous said on 20/May/09
If Ventura was 6'5 then Hogan was 6'8. Hogan towerd over him.
Rick said on 20/May/09
Mikew says on 19/May/09
dicksock and Boss: don't get upset with this clown Rick. I note that he got on this site many months ago, ostensibly as an objective observer who met Andre (more than once, we have been told, repeatedly), though, as we quickly learned, was nothing more a guy with an obvious anti-Andre agenda. He tries to hide his obvious agenda by repeating his claim, over and over again, of meeting Andre, as well as numerous other individuals (I can't even keep count of all of these individuals, but the one constant is that he, or one of his friends, is always "coincidentally" approximately the same height as the subject, which of course allows him to pinpoint the subject's height), though his agenda invariably always surfaces. It's really quite funny.


This one gave me a good laugh. Thank you. It's interesting that when someone comes on this board who has actually met and stood next to a few of the people whose height is debated ridiculously here, and who had some solid references with which to judge their height, it pales in comparison to those who, instead, are sitting in front of their computer screens, munching potato chips, sipping a yoohoo, and trying to calculate how tall someone is with hardly any known references, using pictures and videos that distort perspective. Then, when someones more accurately based observations differ with their media sleuthing, you instantly have a hidden agenda and are labeled anti-Andre. C'mon people, get rid of those comic book sensibiities. Better yet, pound down the rest of that yoohoo, brush those crumbs off your lap and get out and try to meet some of these people...then come back and post your observations.
Danimal said on 20/May/09
mike says on 20/May/09
i,ve been reviewing the khali/hogan staredown,and the hogan andre staredown and have come to the conclusion that khali would be 3-4 inches taller than andre,so andre around 6'10" i say.

You do realize that Hogan HAS lost A LOT of height since the 1980's right?
Boss said on 20/May/09
Baba began his baseball career at 17 years of age in 1955 and had a 6'6 listing then.Click Here So Giant Baba you think stopped growing at 17. I highly doubt it. He was said to have topped out at 6'8" as you can see in the links below. Giant Baba was 6'8 peak.
Halb said on 20/May/09
"Ronnie Russell says on 7/Mar/09
your analysis is flawed, first off, there is another picture of this in black and white where andre does not have his head down, hes actually standing with good posture, and he appears significantly taller"

I think your analysis is flawed. Wilts boots don't give as much, JT has shown this. Wilt certainly doesn't look 'significantly' shorter, and there is also a height measurement of 7'0.5" out there for Wilt. The two measurements for Wilt have been discussed on this board.
mike said on 20/May/09
i,ve been reviewing the khali/hogan staredown,and the hogan andre staredown and have come to the conclusion that khali would be 3-4 inches taller than andre,so andre around 6'10" i say.
dicksock said on 20/May/09
Danimal says on 20/May/09
JT says on 20/May/09
Giant Baba had baseball listings of 6
Vegas said on 20/May/09
Boss says on 20/May/09

Yeah at the age of 17 years and was billed in wrestling at 6'10.

it clearly says in JTs link 6'6 and debut in 1957, baba was born in january 1938 making him 19 at the time of that listing not 17
Danimal said on 20/May/09
JT says on 20/May/09
Giant Baba had baseball listings of 6
Boss said on 20/May/09
JT says on 20/May/09
Giant Baba had baseball listings of 6
mike said on 20/May/09
andre looks 5 inches taller than hogan.
Daniel_Sweden said on 20/May/09
when you look at that pictures from 1979 with Andre and Baba together andre appears to be at least 3 inches taller than baba..both men are in their peak heights. too bad you can't see the footwear..but don't forget that andre had a very bad posture and didn't often stand straight up like other big men. andre always held his head down to get eye conntact with people..
the best posture of all had Kevin Nash..but how tall was Giant Baba at his peak? no less than 6'8 or i'm a wrong. if that's the case and no one of the has a footwear advantage (which we don't know) then it would make Andre a legit 7'0.. I still belevie that Andre was a strong and legit 7'0 barefoot in his prime..
JT said on 20/May/09
Giant Baba had baseball listings of 6
JT said on 19/May/09
Great pics again Chris. For comparison, here
KingNick said on 19/May/09
Speaking of Ventura, here's a recap of an interview he had on Howard Stern Click Here Ventura claims to currently be 6'3" with a peak of 6'5"
Mikew said on 19/May/09
dicksock and Boss: don't get upset with this clown Rick. I note that he got on this site many months ago, ostensibly as an objective observer who met Andre (more than once, we have been told, repeatedly), though, as we quickly learned, was nothing more a guy with an obvious anti-Andre agenda. He tries to hide his obvious agenda by repeating his claim, over and over again, of meeting Andre, as well as numerous other individuals (I can't even keep count of all of these individuals, but the one constant is that he, or one of his friends, is always "coincidentally" approximately the same height as the subject, which of course allows him to pinpoint the subject's height), though his agenda invariably always surfaces. It's really quite funny.
Franz said on 19/May/09
Thanks Chris. Andre is still 3 inches taller than 6.8 baba in 1990. 6.11 inn his last years. Now the question is : how much he was taller at his peak?
I think he lost 2 inches, that means a 7.1 Andre at his peak, as big show says.
Anonymous said on 19/May/09
wwe.com list ventura at 6ft 2 Click Here
Halb said on 19/May/09
I think it is more 2 inches.
dicksock said on 19/May/09
Andre looks about 3 or so inches taller than 6'8" Baba in those pics. So that should pretty much rule out anything under 6'11" for a 1990 Andre. BUT, I noticed in both pictures, Andre's back is bent. His posture is horrible in both pics and he still looks 3" taller. I think if he could've stood Khali style he would look even taller.
Boss said on 19/May/09
Chaz says on 19/May/09
Boss it was me who saw Haystacks fight Pat Roach that was in about 1987-88,and there are two other people who come on the sight who say they have seen Haystacks live lawrence as you say,who says he was at the very least 6'9'' Hoom who posts on the wadlow page and said he looked at the very most 6'8'' and i beleve he could not have been any less than 6'7.5''and maybe 6'8.5'' he deff had at least 3'' on Roach,and if you look at that pic you put on here look at the poster on the wall,Haystacks is about 3''nera the top of it than Roach but to be fair that pick was taken in about 1992 well past he's best and he is not standing as well as Roach,I think mayself he Had a evening height of about 6'7.5''1990-6 and about 6'8.5''as a young man maybe 6'9''out of bed.

Good to know. I'll take your word on Haystacks as you have seen him in person and he looked taller in pics from his younger days than in WCW.
Chris said on 19/May/09
Here are two more photos from my collection for you guys to look at. Both are from 1990 (I know it's past Andre's prime)...but are great full length photos of Andre posing with Shoehi Baba. What do you think ?

(I had to reverse this first photo as the image was reversed in the program)
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Chaz said on 19/May/09
Boss it was me who saw Haystacks fight Pat Roach that was in about 1987-88,and there are two other people who come on the sight who say they have seen Haystacks live lawrence as you say,who says he was at the very least 6'9'' Hoom who posts on the wadlow page and said he looked at the very most 6'8'' and i beleve he could not have been any less than 6'7.5''and maybe 6'8.5'' he deff had at least 3'' on Roach,and if you look at that pic you put on here look at the poster on the wall,Haystacks is about 3''nera the top of it than Roach but to be fair that pick was taken in about 1992 well past he's best and he is not standing as well as Roach,I think mayself he Had a evening height of about 6'7.5''1990-6 and about 6'8.5''as a young man maybe 6'9''out of bed.
JT said on 19/May/09
Click Here Rude (at least 6'3") was a good 2 inches taller than Hennig.
dicksock said on 19/May/09
Danimal says on 18/May/09
Rick Rude was SHORTER than Curt Henning. He was NO 6'4".

Rude was taller. Watch the video. Curt was about 6'2" and Rude was about 6'3.5" MAYBE 6'4".
Sam Hollis said on 18/May/09
I actually happen to be 7 ft. 4 in. tall.
Boss said on 18/May/09
Andre looks between 6'11-7'0.5" in alot of these pics. He was 6'10 at death and 7' peak.

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Rick said on 18/May/09
dicksock says on 18/May/09
Danimal says on 17/May/09
Rick, Vince was 6'1"-6'2". Monsoon was NOT only 1"-2" taller than him. They are on EQUAL ground and they are BOTH wearing dress shoes and Monsoon has 3-4" on Vince. Sid had 2-3" on Monsoon in 1997 (Monsoon died in 1999). Sid was NOT under 6'7".

FINALLY someone who knows what they're talking about.


I guess you're right. You have assumptions from pictures and videos to judge his height, usually based on him standing next to other people who you've based their height on more assumptions from pictures and videos, while I actually had someone who I knew was positively 6'3" standing next to Monsoon and observed that they appeared to be the exact same height. Makes perfect sense to me. (I used the word 'appeared' since it's difficult to judge differences in height less than a half inch or so, even in person.) Let's just call it a day and say that Gorilla was 6'5-6" so everyone stays ignorant and happy. Carry on.
topdweeb said on 18/May/09
TELLEM says on 18/May/09
"NO. heres proof of rude taller than curt: watch the beg. of the video: Click Here he was atleast 6'3, and MAYBE 6'4."

You're right, it seems that Rude has about an inch on Hennig.
alex_scandinavia said on 18/May/09
first of all you can't compare a 1988-1993 andre to a 1969-1975 andre..i mean andre was at his peak back in the early and mid 70's..he was very strong, agile and looked pretty tall..He did awesome things with heavy guys like piledrivers,bodyslams,suplexs and bih chops..I did find a picture where andre still had his afro hair which he lost 1985 in a match with ken Patera and John Studd. the picture was probably taken around 1981-1984 were andre is laying in the beed after a back surgery. maybe he did lose a inch after that..in his later years (1987-1993) he was not so agile,he did suffer from obesity, bad posture, had 2 surgeries which affected him and his height.He had knee and calves problems. Like it's said in the dvd andre the giant - larger than life he suffered from back pains and sometimes he couldn't even get up from the bed in the morning. yes he was measured t 6'10 when he died and 550 pounds..but by then he had already lost 2 inches of his height.His close friends and french trainer refers him as a 7'0.5 man. imagine an andre back in 1970 at his prime height in the morning standing 7 feet barefoot and 400 pounds...

peak 7'0
1993 when he died: 6'10
TELLEM said on 18/May/09
Danimal says on 18/May/09
Rick Rude was SHORTER than Curt Henning. He was NO 6'4".

NO. heres proof of rude taller than curt: watch the beg. of the video: Click Here he was atleast 6'3, and MAYBE 6'4.
i-Clarke-93 said on 18/May/09
Rick was not shorter than Curt , he is slouching in those pics and is waring dress shoes while Curt is probably wearing boots. Rick was 6'3-6'4.
general93 said on 18/May/09
big show was 7'1" in wcw he had lifts to bring him up to 7'4" or 5" it was eric beshoffs idea thats y he had 6" on 6'10" giant haystacks.he now is 7ft tall.wat nerdy school did u go to topdweeb.moonsoon was 6'5 or 6" in his early days billed 6'8" 400lbs.sid was about 6'8" billed up to 7ft at one time.
dicksock said on 18/May/09
Danimal says on 17/May/09
Rick, Vince was 6'1"-6'2". Monsoon was NOT only 1"-2" taller than him. They are on EQUAL ground and they are BOTH wearing dress shoes and Monsoon has 3-4" on Vince. Sid had 2-3" on Monsoon in 1997 (Monsoon died in 1999). Sid was NOT under 6'7".

FINALLY someone who knows what they're talking about.
Danimal said on 18/May/09
Rick Rude was SHORTER than Curt Henning. He was NO 6'4".
Halb said on 18/May/09
Pat Roach was 6'4
Boss said on 17/May/09
I've heard Lawrence comment how Haystacks had a few inches in height on 6'5 Pat Roach and it looks to be true as he is the only guy on here who ever actually saw Haystacks in person and i believe he thought 6'8 or 6'9 for a peak morning height for Haystacks.
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Boss said on 17/May/09
Peak Baba and Inoki. 6'8 Ultimate Bad Guy and Inoki.
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TELLEM said on 17/May/09
rick rude was 6'3, maybe even 6'4. he was taller than sting and had a minimun 2 inches on 6'1 steve austin.
Boss said on 17/May/09
Here peak 6'1 Rowdy Piper with Andre. Piper has about a half inch footware advantage over Andre. Big Show with 6'0 Piper from WCW. Big Show would have a footware advantage over a non peak PiperClick Here
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Danimal said on 17/May/09
Rick, Vince was 6'1"-6'2". Monsoon was NOT only 1"-2" taller than him. They are on EQUAL ground and they are BOTH wearing dress shoes and Monsoon has 3-4" on Vince. Sid had 2-3" on Monsoon in 1997 (Monsoon died in 1999). Sid was NOT under 6'7".

JT, I'm 31 years old. NO KID chump.
topdweeb said on 17/May/09
JT & Vegas: If Steve Jordan is listed as 6' 4, then I guess you guys are right after all. He easily looks 2 to 3 inches taller than Hennig.
aaron said on 17/May/09
i met hogan and beefcake in clearwater at a strip club, with normal footwear, and he appeared to be 6'5", so i am going with 6'4.5" to be safe...he was 1+" taller than my father who is 6'3.5". I am 6'1.75", so i had a decent perspective. hogan was a full inch shorter than beefcake, but hogan also had horrible posture and walked like an old man.
Rick said on 17/May/09
Vegas says on 16/May/09
here is monsoon and sid from the same period as the vince monsoon video JT posted, Click Here


With Sid between 6'6-7", I see about a 6'3" Monsoon, same as the Vader video, same as standing next to him over 30 years ago.
JT said on 17/May/09
Danimal says on 16/May/09
So, if Curt Henning is only 6'1" JT, then why is 6'4" Diamond Dallas Page IN COWBOY BOOTS only 1" taller than Curt and DDP is ALSO closer to the camera. PLEASE, explain that to me JT:

First, DDP is not 6'4". Second, Hennig pulled an Andre and is on his tippytoes. You must think Scott Hall is 6'6" to 6'7" then, right? Click Here Click Here Click Here

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Vegas said on 17/May/09
my bad nfl actually list jordan at 6'3 and not 6'4, perfect is looking only 6'1 tops with him Click Here
Vegas said on 17/May/09
JT is right, hennig was around 6'1-6'1.5, he was at least 3 inches shorter than scott hall in awa, there was a video on youtube of hennig and hall side by side at the pool barefoot from 1987, the top of hennigs head came to halls eyebrows (i took a screenshot will post if i find it)

steve jordan was a nfl listed 6'4, forget 6'3 for hennig Click Here
topdweeb said on 17/May/09
I don't buy Curt Hennig only being 6' 1. I agree with Danimal, he was more around 6' 3
Danimal said on 17/May/09
How tall was Curts father? Click Here
Danimal said on 17/May/09
How tall was Nick Bockwinkel? Click Here
Danimal said on 17/May/09
Curt and Rick Rude again: Click Here
Danimal said on 17/May/09
So, according to JT, Rick Rude must have been a FLAT 6'0" then: Click Here
Danimal said on 17/May/09
Curt Henning with 5'11" Bobby Heenan: Click Here
Lebowski said on 17/May/09
Danimal...Because DDP is not really a legit 6'4 as you can clearly see in his headhunter show that aired once on MTV, and secondly...didn't you notice that Henning is tiptoeing in the picture?
JT said on 17/May/09
From 1984:
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JT said on 16/May/09
topdweeb says on 16/May/09
JT: do you think Show was ever at least a legit 7 footer?

Right around there, though I doubt he was ever his full 7'1" college b-ball listing. By the early 1990s, they were already exaggerating many heights in college. To be listed at 7'1", he likely was at least 6'11.5", which if true is close enough to 7 feet.
Vegas said on 16/May/09
here is monsoon and sid from the same period as the vince monsoon video JT posted, Click Here
Danimal said on 16/May/09
So, if Curt Henning is only 6'1" JT, then why is 6'4" Diamond Dallas Page IN COWBOY BOOTS only 1" taller than Curt and DDP is ALSO closer to the camera. PLEASE, explain that to me JT: Click Here
Danimal said on 16/May/09
JT says on 16/May/09
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Sorry, but Monsoon looks to be at least 6'4" there with Vince and COULD pass for 6'5".

Curt Henning looks to be a solid 6'2"-6'3" GUY next to Hilbilly Jim on Hilbilly's SITE. JT, is yet again providing a BIASED pic where we can't see the ground, or their lower bodies, YET, claims that Curt is only 6'1". How convenient.
topdweeb said on 16/May/09
JT: do you think Show was ever at least a legit 7 footer?
dicksock said on 16/May/09
Monsoon was above 6'3". He was taller than 6'4" Ventura and he was literally like 3" taller than 6'1.5" Vince McMahon. Again the VAST majority of evidence points to a 6'4"-6'5" Monsoon.
dicksock said on 16/May/09
It's really a sad day when google must be use to perform simple mathematical calculations that should have been learned in jr. high arithmetic... it's not even pre-aglebra, c'mon.

I used google for speed. I'm on a computer, I might as well use it. Plus, who cares. It's not like we use cm in the U.S to measure height anyway. We use inches and feet. Again I can assure you I've never even come close to failing a math course in my life.
JT said on 16/May/09
Click Here
Curt Hennig was around 6'1" - with 6'4" Steve Jordan of the NFL. Click Here
McMahon's true height is what should be questioned here. At times, he can look 6'1-6'2". However, he only looked around 2 inches taller than Davey Boy Smith. A early WWF Big Show had McMahon by around a full head size, and I highly doubt Big Show was over 7'0".
topdweeb said on 16/May/09
general93 says on 15/May/09
"when changing to cm people can get confused its mostley worked out 2.5cm = 1" so 220cm= 88" 7'4".after watching his bio larger than life and watching princess bride andre peak 7'2" 80s 7' 88-93 6'10"-11."

It's really not complicated. BTW, 220cm does not equal 7' 4, it's more like 7' 2.5". Your problem is is that you're rounding 1 inch to equal 2.5cm. It's 2.54 cm are in an inch.

dicksock says on 15/May/09
"When I googled 220cm to inches it said 86.5. So I guess google is wrong?"

It's really a sad day when google must be use to perform simple mathematical calculations that should have been learned in jr. high arithmetic... it's not even pre-aglebra, c'mon.
Danimal said on 16/May/09
Curt Henning was a legit 6'2"-6'3" guy and at 5:00 mark, Gorilla Monsoon is taller: Click Here

JT, can you post the video of Monsoon next to Vince in the late 90's on an epsiode of Raw. This guy is only claiming a PEAK Monsoon was 6'3".
general93 said on 16/May/09
no google is write dicksock thats y i said people get confused maybe somone worked 7'4" out at 220cm thats all.alot of time when u convert 2.5cm to 1" it works out different.people keep jumping to conclusions when i post something thank god im a friendly general.
Halb said on 16/May/09
hogan is a KNOWN lift wearer. early in his career, he had 2+ inches on 6'4.5" brutus beefcake,

It is not known, it is suspected. Also, Beefacke is not 6'4:D
dicksock said on 15/May/09
general93 says on 15/May/09
when changing to cm people can get confused its mostley worked out 2.5cm = 1" so 220cm= 88" 7'4".after watching his bio larger than life and watching princess bride andre peak 7'2" 80s 7' 88-93 6'10"-11".

When I googled 220cm to inches it said 86.5. So I guess google is wrong?
Rick said on 15/May/09
And by the way if anyone actually believes Monsoon was only 6'2" then you literally don't deserve to be on this site. Even "ola" probably thinks Monsoon is 6'3! Monsoon was nothing under 6'4" at his tallest. I personally think he could have been a weak 6'5". I just watched WMIII today and he was def an inch or so taller than Ventura. And again Ventura was most likely about 6'4" give or take a half an inch.

If you're referring to me, I don't believe I ever said Monsoon was 6'2". He was around 6'3".
Here's Monsoon with Vader, who can be classified as either a strong 6'2" or a weak 6'3". Pause it at 1:21. Click Here
general93 said on 15/May/09
when changing to cm people can get confused its mostley worked out 2.5cm = 1" so 220cm= 88" 7'4".after watching his bio larger than life and watching princess bride andre peak 7'2" 80s 7' 88-93 6'10"-11".
aaron said on 15/May/09
you guys keep using this 5" difference between hogan and andre as evidence, but it is not. hogan is a KNOWN lift wearer. early in his career, he had 2+ inches on 6'4.5" brutus beefcake, and now beefcake is taller than hogan when you meet them in person( met them both at a strip club in clearwater, FL last year...
Ghost said on 15/May/09
The thing is you can't go by one photo. Photographs can be very decieving. What I base my estimations on is what MOST of the evidence suggests. That pic of Hogan and Baba is a great find, but since it's only their upper bodies, it's far from being a perfect evidence about their heights.

Yup, your right, Baba is wearing platforms, way to go Dick Tracy!

They made Andre stand on a box with Vince in an old interview, it's not impossible. However, I think it's more likely that the difference is about 2 inces and Hogan has loose posture and is standing further behind.

You can't throw all the previous evidence out the window just because one new pic. We can't see their stances so it's not waterproof.
Anonymous said on 15/May/09
dicksock says on 14/May/09
Agreed. My comparison was to thow a little cold water on those few who were trying to make an early 1990s Baba at 6'8" or more to prove Andre was at least 6'11" then. Hogan would not look that short and small next to Baba unless the latter was closer to the camera.

I think Baba was about 6'8" because of how he looked next to the nearly 6'6" John Tenta. I don't see any less than 2" between them. In 1990 I would give Andre about 6'11". After his knee surgery he looked like a weak 6'10". I still think that the 7'0.5" measurment for a prime Andre is correct. Is there an interview where "Frenchy" says that height or is it just a rumor? Either way I still think that is the most accurate guess. The range for Andre's peak should be 6'11.5" to 7'1" now.

The interview with Frenhy Bernard stating Andre was measured at 7'0.5" is going to be placed on you tube once Ronnie can convert his tape recording to MP3.
Halb said on 15/May/09
interesting:D
Click Here
dicksock said on 14/May/09
Agreed. My comparison was to thow a little cold water on those few who were trying to make an early 1990s Baba at 6'8" or more to prove Andre was at least 6'11" then. Hogan would not look that short and small next to Baba unless the latter was closer to the camera.

I think Baba was about 6'8" because of how he looked next to the nearly 6'6" John Tenta. I don't see any less than 2" between them. In 1990 I would give Andre about 6'11". After his knee surgery he looked like a weak 6'10". I still think that the 7'0.5" measurment for a prime Andre is correct. Is there an interview where "Frenchy" says that height or is it just a rumor? Either way I still think that is the most accurate guess. The range for Andre's peak should be 6'11.5" to 7'1" now.

And by the way if anyone actually believes Monsoon was only 6'2" then you literally don't deserve to be on this site. Even "ola" probably thinks Monsoon is 6'3! Monsoon was nothing under 6'4" at his tallest. I personally think he could have been a weak 6'5". I just watched WMIII today and he was def an inch or so taller than Ventura. And again Ventura was most likely about 6'4" give or take a half an inch.
kinggollum said on 14/May/09
Ghost says on 14/May/09
Anonymous says on 13/May/09
Ghost says on 13/May/09
We can't make such jufgement over one photo, for all we know they might have made Baba look taller because he was billeda as a Giant.

We all know there are plenty staredowns between Andre and Hogan and the difference usually was about 5 inches.

I say
Hogan 6'5,5
Baba 6'7 max
Andre peak 6'11 later 6'10

If you're refuting AMAZING photos that are being offered to this site, why even come here to debate height then? You clearly already have your mind made up on what you believe they were. Unfortunately, so do so many others on here and no matter what proof they're presented with, they still stick to their preconceived claim.


The thing is you can't go by one photo. Photographs can be very decieving. What I base my estimations on is what MOST of the evidence suggests. That pic of Hogan and Baba is a great find, but since it's only their upper bodies, it's far from being a perfect evidence about their heights.

Yup, your right, Baba is wearing platforms, way to go Dick Tracy!
JT said on 14/May/09
Marble says on 14/May/09
Why do people always create comparison pictures when there already pictures of two people standing together like andre and baba...

Agreed. My comparison was to thow a little cold water on those few who were trying to make an early 1990s Baba at 6'8" or more to prove Andre was at least 6'11" then. Hogan would not look that short and small next to Baba unless the latter was closer to the camera.

Andre had Baba by roughly 3 inches during this time period:
Click Here
Click Here
sidewalk said on 14/May/09
Photo comparisons are not necessarily a bad thing but I don't think it proves beyond a doubt how tall someone is. I think it only gives a good idea how tall someone is and that is only if it is done properly. No matter what anyone posts here I don't believe you are a photo comparison expert like someone that works for the FBI or CIA. It's clear by looking at some of the comparisons past, present that the camera is not the same distance and angle so it doesn't positively prove anything.
Danimal said on 14/May/09
Marble says on 14/May/09
Why do people always create comparison pictures when there already pictures of two people standing together like andre and baba and andre and wilt theres pictures of them standing together but instead lets create comparison pictures so andre comes out shorter :/

One guy is responsible for starting that. I'll leave his name anonymous and YES, this user does not believe, nor does he want Andre to have EVER been over 6'10" at any point in his 30 year wrestling career. Biased? Yes.
Marble said on 14/May/09
Why do people always create comparison pictures when there already pictures of two people standing together like andre and baba and andre and wilt theres pictures of them standing together but instead lets create comparison pictures so andre comes out shorter :/
Halb said on 14/May/09
Isn't Davidson older in that pic, and might have lost height?
Ghost said on 14/May/09
Anonymous says on 13/May/09
Ghost says on 13/May/09
We can't make such jufgement over one photo, for all we know they might have made Baba look taller because he was billeda as a Giant.

We all know there are plenty staredowns between Andre and Hogan and the difference usually was about 5 inches.

I say
Hogan 6'5,5
Baba 6'7 max
Andre peak 6'11 later 6'10

If you're refuting AMAZING photos that are being offered to this site, why even come here to debate height then? You clearly already have your mind made up on what you believe they were. Unfortunately, so do so many others on here and no matter what proof they're presented with, they still stick to their preconceived claim.


The thing is you can't go by one photo. Photographs can be very decieving. What I base my estimations on is what MOST of the evidence suggests. That pic of Hogan and Baba is a great find, but since it's only their upper bodies, it's far from being a perfect evidence about their heights.
LV said on 13/May/09
I think it would be good if someone could be a comparison of Hogan/Baba and Hogan/Ben Davidson. Davidson was 6'8" and can be used as a good point of reference.
JT said on 13/May/09
Thanks Chris for the new pics.

Baba is a little closer to the camera with Hogan, which is evident by the size of his head. Click Here
i-Clarke-93 said on 13/May/09
I've always thought Baba was a legit 6'7 but he easily looks 6'8 with Hogan and Andre was still well taller than Baba in 1990 proving that he was still around 6'11 by that point and easily 7'0/5 at peak.
Anonymous said on 13/May/09
Ghost says on 13/May/09
We can't make such jufgement over one photo, for all we know they might have made Baba look taller because he was billeda as a Giant.

We all know there are plenty staredowns between Andre and Hogan and the difference usually was about 5 inches.

I say
Hogan 6'5,5
Baba 6'7 max
Andre peak 6'11 later 6'10

If you're refuting AMAZING photos that are being offered to this site, why even come here to debate height then? You clearly already have your mind made up on what you believe they were. Unfortunately, so do so many others on here and no matter what proof they're presented with, they still stick to their preconceived claim.
Halb said on 13/May/09
"Yeah estimates and that's about it"
That's all any of us can do. Mostly from pics, and for those that met him, by real life estimations.
Ghost said on 13/May/09
We can't make such jufgement over one photo, for all we know they might have made Baba look taller because he was billeda as a Giant.

We all know there are plenty staredowns between Andre and Hogan and the difference usually was about 5 inches.

I say
Hogan 6'5,5
Baba 6'7 max
Andre peak 6'11 later 6'10
Steve said on 13/May/09
Bubba has at least 3 good inches on hogan, who was at least 6'5. Makes Bubba absolute minimum 6'8 which he looks all of in most photos.
dicksock said on 13/May/09
There is a video on youtube called, "Introducing The Machines" where Mean Gene describes Andre as 220 centimeters. That is about 86.5", which is 7'2.5". I found that kind of interesting that they made such a mistake. Its the only time I can remember where the WWF referenced Andre at under 7'4".
kinggollum said on 12/May/09
Omg, this really proves a 7' plus Andre!
Boss said on 12/May/09
Halb says on 12/May/09
In the latest issue of Power Slam an article by O liver Hurley estimates Andres maximum height at 6'10.

Yeah estimates and that's about it. We know he was 6'10 at death so are you saying he never lost any height over his entire life. Noone knows the actual size of his head(12-13 inches) and upper torso where Andre makes alot of his height. This is why skinnier guys like Wilt look taller at legs and shoulder but by the time you get to the top of both their heads Andre's upperbody and head make up for Wilt or any tall guy really as most get alot of height from their legs. This is why Andre's true peak is so hard to determine but their is no doubt that he was 6'10 at death and no doubt that he lost some height.
Boss said on 12/May/09
Chris says on 12/May/09
Here are two never before seen photos on this site that I recently got in a Japanese magazine dated March 1990.
Backstage:
Baba and Hulk Hogan - This is the first photo that I have seen of the two of them together
Click Here

Same night...later in the evening...a full length shot of Andre and Baba in the ring...so you can see Baba's shoes
Click Here

What puzzles me is how can Baba can be so much taller than Hogan and Andre be so much taller than Baba even given Baba's chunky heeled shoes. By this comparison a 1990 Andre would have 1990 Hogan by 7-8 inches. I believe a good argument for Andre's peak height was anywhere between 6'11 to 7'0.5" peak morning height with good posture and around 6'10 by 1990 as we know from the 1993 lA Article on Andre where it states the crematorium in France was not big enough to house Andre who was 6'10 and 555 pounds when he died.

Also sports illustrated Terry Todd spent a week with Andre when he wrote the 1981 article about Andre and here is how he decribes Andre.

This bulk prodigious results primarily from two physical peculiarities -
unusually heavy bone structure and relatively short legs. As for bone
structure, the best single indicators are the circumference of the wrists and
ankles; the circumference of the wrist, for instance, tells much more about
the overall bone structure than does the length of the hand. Consider this.
The largest wrist circumference on record of a non-obese person was believed
until recently to have been that of Cleve Dean, a 6'7", 450-pound arm wrestler
from Georgia, whose right wrist is 10 1/4" around. Seven inches is about
average from an adult male; eight inches is a very large measurement. Andre's
wrist, however, is almost a foot in circumference, far larger than most men's
ankles. His wrist, in fact, is about average for an adult male western lowland
gorilla.

And as for the effect of the relationship between his leg length and trunk
length on his body weight, remember than most men of 6'6" and beyond have
relatively long legs and short bodies. This produces both their comparative
lightness and their somewhat storklike appearance. Andre's proportions are
actually quite normal - for a man of about 5'6". The fact that he rises almost
two feet beyond that height accounts for much of his weight, because the trunk
of a man weighs for more per inch of height than the legs. One of the reasons
a gorilla weighs so much, in fact, is that, compared to a man, his trunk is
quite long, averaging approximately 63% of his standing height as opposed to
52% in a man.

However, Andre's proportions, added to his height and unique bone structure,
are only part of what makes him so truly giantlike. His hands, in particular,
have always drawn attention, not only for their length and greadth but for
their massiveness. They, like his feet, are disproportionately thick, giving
them an almost pawlike appearance. His fingers are so large that he wears a
ring through which a silver dollar may easily pass. Shaking hands with him is
a humbling experience, producing memories of boyhood in the largest of men.
And his head, his enormous jut-browed head, scarred from both rugby and
wrestling and crowned with a thick shock of wiry black hair, also appears to
be larger than it ought, adding the final touch to his fearful symmetry. In
part, his capacity to fascinate must stem from the combined effect his great
height and breadth, his slablike feet and hands and his colossal head have on
oursubconscious, evoking, as they do, our formative years, years of storybooks
and fairy tales, years which Andre symbolizes as he towers among us, a living
manifestation of our childhood dreams.
Red said on 12/May/09
Great Pics Chris, Baba looks like a legit 6
Franz said on 12/May/09
thank Chris. Another proof of the true height of Andre. Baba looks in comparison with Hulk and Tenta 6.8/9 and andre in 1990 had 3/4 inches on him.
So, in 1990 Andre was closer to 7 foot, maybe 6.11, and certanly wasn't his peak height.
Halb said on 12/May/09
In the latest issue of Power Slam an article by O liver Hurley estimates Andres maximum height at 6'10.
Boss said on 12/May/09
Here is Andre displaying his reach advantage against 5'5 1/2 Bobby Chacon(LOL).
Click Here
Chris said on 12/May/09
Here are two never before seen photos on this site that I recently got in a Japanese magazine dated March 1990.
Backstage:
Baba and Hulk Hogan - This is the first photo that I have seen of the two of them together
Click Here

Same night...later in the evening...a full length shot of Andre and Baba in the ring...so you can see Baba's shoes
Click Here
Boss said on 11/May/09
Here is a height chart on posture where it shows how much height you can actually lose by slouching. So Andre's bad posture would cause a more dramatic height loss than the man shown because Andre is much larger. Whether it was because of surgery or weight gain Andre's bad posture would cause him to appear shorter than he actually was in comparison to someone with good posture.
Click Here
Anonymous said on 11/May/09
His visual impact is so extraordinary, in fact, that is sometimes
effects even animals. In two separate instances, one reported by Valois and
one by Roger Sembiazza, owner of a restauarant in Studio City, Calif., trained
guard dogs have turned tail and headed for cover at the first sight of Andre.
Asked about this, Andre chuckled in his *basso profundo* and said, "Boss, it
was so funny. Dogs often react to me that way if they don't know me, but these
two dogs were supposed to be so mean. So vicious. One was a German shepherd
and one was a Doberman. Both times I was asked to stand still while the owner
brought the dog in, and both times the dog got one look at me and ran the
other way as fast as he could go."
Norway_25 said on 11/May/09
Jim Duggan and Bobby Hennan claims even today that Andre's peak height was 7'4 which is not the case..Paul "Big Show" Wight says Andre's peak height was somewhere around 7'0-7'1. he wasnt allowed in the army because if your over 7ft tall u cant fit in the practice trenches. Bret Hart is a legit 6'0 and Andre sure looks pretty tall against Hart in Wrestlemania 1 1985 but was that Andres peak height or did he lose some height.

I think Andres peak height was 7'0.5 barefoot in the morning and maybe even 7'1...he was not 7'2,7'3,7'4 or 7'5.

Larger Than Life - the Eight Wonder Of The World - Andr
Danimal said on 10/May/09
Mikew says on 10/May/09
Kelso, possible but very unlikely in Wepner's case given the numerous 6'5.5" (and even 6'6") listings. Remember, boxing, unlike wrestling, is not a sport where exaggerating about height is commonplace or even makes any sense at all. Indeed, boxers are measured and weighed before fights, usually publicly if the fight is big enough. So, while I agree with you that the average guy claiming 6'5" may be in fact 6'4.5", in this case, Wepner is likely not below 6'5." Of course, I do not know whether he was 6'5" flat, 6'5.1/8" 6'5.5", 6'5.75", or even 6'6", as his trainer stated.

His trainer stated he was 6'6.5".

Tyson was listed at anywhere from 5'11" to 6'0" throughout the mid-late 80's and he was never over 5'10". Ivanger Holifield was also billed about an inch over his true height.
Mikew said on 10/May/09
Kelso, possible but very unlikely in Wepner's case given the numerous 6'5.5" (and even 6'6") listings. Remember, boxing, unlike wrestling, is not a sport where exaggerating about height is commonplace or even makes any sense at all. Indeed, boxers are measured and weighed before fights, usually publicly if the fight is big enough. So, while I agree with you that the average guy claiming 6'5" may be in fact 6'4.5", in this case, Wepner is likely not below 6'5." Of course, I do not know whether he was 6'5" flat, 6'5.1/8" 6'5.5", 6'5.75", or even 6'6", as his trainer stated.
Rantsrob said on 10/May/09
kelso says on 9/May/09
If most do not give their height to the 1/2'' Wepner could have been 6'4.5''

Or 6'5.5'' or 6'5.7'' or 6'5.9''
kelso said on 9/May/09
If most do not give their height to the 1/2'' Wepner could have been 6'4.5''
Boss said on 9/May/09
Here is an Andre Junk Yard Dog comparison where Andre appears to have lost some height.
Click Here
Anonymous said on 9/May/09
I think that is true Mikew. I would hazard a guess that more would round up?
Mikew said on 8/May/09
Halb says on 8/May/09
Thats a good find JT with Wepner giving his own height.

You have to remember that many people, I would venture to say most, do not give their height to the 1/2 inch. So, Wepner saying that he was 6'5" does not mean that he was exactly 6'5" on the dot. Obviously, some people round up and others round down. Wepner happens to be listed in lots of places as 6,5.5."
Chaz said on 8/May/09
You know I have just looked at the Wepner Ali bout and the Ali Bugner bout,and there is not much diff in height from 6'4'' Bugner than Wepner to Ali.and we know Ali was only 6'2.5''I think like most listed 6'5'' men he may have only been 6'4.5''-6'4.75''he is not any real 6'6''that is for sure.
Halb said on 8/May/09
Thats a good find JT with Wepner giving his own height.
Danimal said on 8/May/09
Monsoon was 6'5" imo. He had too much height on McMahon in the late 1990's, to be just 6'4". He could have been a weak 6'5", but no way just a flat 6'4". You've seen the pics JT.
JT said on 8/May/09
Rick, Wepner was 6
Daniel_Sweden said on 8/May/09
i think that one thing is for sure and that's that andre did lose some height during his life but the question is how much did he lose.He sure looked taller back in the 70's and early 80's then he did in mid 80's and early 90's..i think he lost 1-2 inches during his life.If he was measured at 6'10 when he died i'd belive he was at his peak a 7 legit 7 feet man barefoot in the morning standing straight.. everybody here seems to agree that he was somewhere between 6'10-7'1.. like i said 7'0 (213cm) feet strong.

hands: 41 cm
shoe size 22-24 ( 54-56 )
weight: peak maybe 520 when he died back in 1993

R.I.P 7 feet man

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