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Darksol64 said on 13/May/23
@WhatcanIclaim
Rob would list you on his website at 6'0.25 more than likely. The most honest claim is a normal bedtime low, which in your case sounds around 6'0 and 1/8th.
Obviously trying to tell someone that in person as your height sounds ridiculous and makes you look silly, so you have two options:
Claim 6'1, nobody will bat and eye and question it. May or may not think you're 6'2 depending on if you're lanky or not and proportions.
Claim 6'0, and expect some people to be surprised and say there's no way you're only 6'0. Unless you have an extremely wide/heavy weight frame, people may think you're 5'11 or something then.
@WhatcanIclaim
Rob would list you on his website at 6'0.25 more than likely. The most honest claim is a normal bedtime low, which in your case sounds around 6'0 and 1/8th.
Obviously trying to tell someone that in person as your height sounds ridiculous and makes you look silly, so you have two options:
Claim 6'1, nobody will bat and eye and question it. May or may not think you're 6'2 depending on if you're lanky or not and proportions.
Claim 6'0, and expect some people to be surprised and say there's no way you're only 6'0. Unless you have an extremely wide/heavy weight frame, people may think you're 5'11 or something then.
adrianjacobs said on 13/May/23
@Jdubbz
1. I'm 6'0 5/8-6'0.75 in the evening, not 6'0.5.
2. You being insecure at 6'3 in America is a pretty different thing from me being insecure at this in Sweden. That would be the equivalent of me being insecure about being "too short" at 6'5 in Sweden. It seems like the main reason you were insecure about it was because a few people were still taller than you and you were not the absolute tallest person everywhere you went. Literally the only reason you got over it was because you grew taller and not because you became another person mentally.
Imagine being me and being shorter than the majority of men, shorter than a large amount of women, and also NOT reaching the height I was projected to end up at.
3. I don't understand why these people have the right to say that I say outlandish things and have a deluted height perception if they underestimated my height by nearly three inches.
@Jdubbz
1. I'm 6'0 5/8-6'0.75 in the evening, not 6'0.5.
2. You being insecure at 6'3 in America is a pretty different thing from me being insecure at this in Sweden. That would be the equivalent of me being insecure about being "too short" at 6'5 in Sweden. It seems like the main reason you were insecure about it was because a few people were still taller than you and you were not the absolute tallest person everywhere you went. Literally the only reason you got over it was because you grew taller and not because you became another person mentally.
Imagine being me and being shorter than the majority of men, shorter than a large amount of women, and also NOT reaching the height I was projected to end up at.
3. I don't understand why these people have the right to say that I say outlandish things and have a deluted height perception if they underestimated my height by nearly three inches.
Jdubbz said on 13/May/23
@Charline:
So now you hate 5'2 woman because of this particular individual? There has to be more to this story than what you're saying. Also, you can't unironically say "womanlet" unless you're @Poster's height at least.
@Charline:
So now you hate 5'2 woman because of this particular individual? There has to be more to this story than what you're saying. Also, you can't unironically say "womanlet" unless you're @Poster's height at least.
pov said on 13/May/23
I don’t know why people are saying they don’t find shorter women attractive lol. Attractive women come in all shapes and sizes. Don’t get me wrong, perfect female height for me is 5”6-5”9, but that doesn’t mean I don’t find shorter women attractive. I’m sure most men find someone like Scarlet Johansson (5”3) extremely attractive lol, what is this nonsense.
I don’t know why people are saying they don’t find shorter women attractive lol. Attractive women come in all shapes and sizes. Don’t get me wrong, perfect female height for me is 5”6-5”9, but that doesn’t mean I don’t find shorter women attractive. I’m sure most men find someone like Scarlet Johansson (5”3) extremely attractive lol, what is this nonsense.
Jdubbz said on 13/May/23
@arvedtall:
Sorry that happened to you, but I know guys even taller than me (I'm 6'6-6'7) who are much older than you with no major health problems to speak of. Certainly nothing that you mentioned. I don't have any either, but then again I'm only 25. Some of the problems you mentioned like irregular heartbeat (particularly arrythmias) are more common in very tall people, but the others don't sound related to your height at all and are indicative of a much more serious health problem.
I truly hope you get relief from those conditions as they sound very painful, but blaming it all on being 6'8 is a bit ridiculous.
@arvedtall:
Sorry that happened to you, but I know guys even taller than me (I'm 6'6-6'7) who are much older than you with no major health problems to speak of. Certainly nothing that you mentioned. I don't have any either, but then again I'm only 25. Some of the problems you mentioned like irregular heartbeat (particularly arrythmias) are more common in very tall people, but the others don't sound related to your height at all and are indicative of a much more serious health problem.
I truly hope you get relief from those conditions as they sound very painful, but blaming it all on being 6'8 is a bit ridiculous.
Emil said on 13/May/23
Just measured myself at 11 am (3 hours out of bed) and I'm 184 cm on the nose. Amongst young ethnic Danish guys I think that's around the 60-65% percentile, so slightly above average - including all ethnicities I'm a bit closer to the 70% percentile, but not quite there I'd say.
I do see women my height or slightly taller (185-186 cm) almost daily. Women around 187-190 cm aren't that rare either, but any taller than that is a really uncommon sight. The average height for young ethnic Danish women is 169-170 cm, for men it's around 181-182 - all ethnicities included, I think it's 167-168 cm for women and 180-181 cm for guys. If you account for daily height shrinkage, you could probably subtract 1-1.5 cm from those numbers.
Keep in mind that I live in Copenhagen so I pass by thousands of people daily, so, there's obviously a higher chance for me to spot both very tall and very short people than you would in smaller places.
Just measured myself at 11 am (3 hours out of bed) and I'm 184 cm on the nose. Amongst young ethnic Danish guys I think that's around the 60-65% percentile, so slightly above average - including all ethnicities I'm a bit closer to the 70% percentile, but not quite there I'd say.
I do see women my height or slightly taller (185-186 cm) almost daily. Women around 187-190 cm aren't that rare either, but any taller than that is a really uncommon sight. The average height for young ethnic Danish women is 169-170 cm, for men it's around 181-182 - all ethnicities included, I think it's 167-168 cm for women and 180-181 cm for guys. If you account for daily height shrinkage, you could probably subtract 1-1.5 cm from those numbers.
Keep in mind that I live in Copenhagen so I pass by thousands of people daily, so, there's obviously a higher chance for me to spot both very tall and very short people than you would in smaller places.
Jodie said on 13/May/23
@rob
how would an 159-160 look next to a 182cm person? head at lower lip and eye level at top of shoulder right?
@rob
how would an 159-160 look next to a 182cm person? head at lower lip and eye level at top of shoulder right?
James B 5ft8 said on 12/May/23
I know this one guy who would always claim “6ft4 and a half”. One day he stood back to with one of my friends who is 6ft2 (187cm) and they were the same height.
Do you guys think that’s an usual that a 6’2 man would round up to 6’4.5?
I know this one guy who would always claim “6ft4 and a half”. One day he stood back to with one of my friends who is 6ft2 (187cm) and they were the same height.
Do you guys think that’s an usual that a 6’2 man would round up to 6’4.5?
Jdubbz said on 12/May/23
@Henrik:
Yes, Middle Eastern and even South Asian people can be quite tall when malnutrition isn't holding us back. I myself am of South Asian origin (genetics wise) and am also 6'6-7 like that youtuber. We're out there, lol.
@Henrik:
Yes, Middle Eastern and even South Asian people can be quite tall when malnutrition isn't holding us back. I myself am of South Asian origin (genetics wise) and am also 6'6-7 like that youtuber. We're out there, lol.
Rockaway said on 12/May/23
There isn’t a single piece of data, whether it’s an article, study, report, etc to validate any of the claims this troll is making. Just stop giving him attention. He can continue to wallow in his own delusions of feeling short at a weak 6’1 and insisting 6’3.5 isn’t a tall height, or as his mother put it average. I feel bad for him because he sounds depressed but it’s ruining this forum.
There isn’t a single piece of data, whether it’s an article, study, report, etc to validate any of the claims this troll is making. Just stop giving him attention. He can continue to wallow in his own delusions of feeling short at a weak 6’1 and insisting 6’3.5 isn’t a tall height, or as his mother put it average. I feel bad for him because he sounds depressed but it’s ruining this forum.
adrianposter said on 12/May/23
i have a small head but a long neck which causes me to have low set sloped shoulders would this make me appear shorter than reality
i have a small head but a long neck which causes me to have low set sloped shoulders would this make me appear shorter than reality
Emil said on 12/May/23
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
Also, what's funny Adrian is that I brought that up (wanting to be taller at 6'3) because I was supporting YOUR ARGUMENT when you claimed that 6'4 isn't very tall in Sweden, which I still agree with. I only brought that up to defend you, and now you're using that against me? Do you realize how scummy that is? I hope you don't do that to people IRL, because that's not exactly how you make friends.
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I've tried to defend Adrian's views as well but all he does is lash back at you lol.
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
Also, what's funny Adrian is that I brought that up (wanting to be taller at 6'3) because I was supporting YOUR ARGUMENT when you claimed that 6'4 isn't very tall in Sweden, which I still agree with. I only brought that up to defend you, and now you're using that against me? Do you realize how scummy that is? I hope you don't do that to people IRL, because that's not exactly how you make friends.
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I've tried to defend Adrian's views as well but all he does is lash back at you lol.
5'10.25" said on 12/May/23
@Charline I'd say Swedes average more or less 5'11" or 180-180.5 cm range. 178 cm or 5'10" in the north (strong Lappid influence) and 5'11.5" in the south (strong nordid/cromagnid influence).
@Charline I'd say Swedes average more or less 5'11" or 180-180.5 cm range. 178 cm or 5'10" in the north (strong Lappid influence) and 5'11.5" in the south (strong nordid/cromagnid influence).
Okidoki said on 12/May/23
@Charline There was a female poster named Mariana not long ago who also said that 5'2 women were insecure in her opinion.
As for the perfect height, this is often subjective, so it's not really easy to say-
But from watching what they say in the media in general, for women, it's often said that between 5'7-5'9 is a great height. For men, it's often said that between 6'-6'2 is a great height.
You can also see how preferences vary here on the board too. We have 2 posters, James B 172 cm and MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 who for example like or prefer women taller than them.
Then you have Jdubbz who is around 6'6.5, who prefer women around 5'2 for example.
It's often subjective, some people like short women, average height women or tall women, it depends.
There is a stereotype which you see sometimes in the media, that shorter men like taller women or taller men like shorter women. The reasons cited then are that shorter men need taller women to produce offspring that will give a greater height or vice versa, that taller men need shorter women for some biological reasons.
Reasons for the attraction are also cited as that opposites attract or that you like what you don't have etc.
@Charline There was a female poster named Mariana not long ago who also said that 5'2 women were insecure in her opinion.
As for the perfect height, this is often subjective, so it's not really easy to say-
But from watching what they say in the media in general, for women, it's often said that between 5'7-5'9 is a great height. For men, it's often said that between 6'-6'2 is a great height.
You can also see how preferences vary here on the board too. We have 2 posters, James B 172 cm and MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 who for example like or prefer women taller than them.
Then you have Jdubbz who is around 6'6.5, who prefer women around 5'2 for example.
It's often subjective, some people like short women, average height women or tall women, it depends.
There is a stereotype which you see sometimes in the media, that shorter men like taller women or taller men like shorter women. The reasons cited then are that shorter men need taller women to produce offspring that will give a greater height or vice versa, that taller men need shorter women for some biological reasons.
Reasons for the attraction are also cited as that opposites attract or that you like what you don't have etc.
Okidoki said on 12/May/23
@adrianjacobs Yes, are you going to show us some long legs there, invite them out, i'll buy the beers :P Rockaway is curious too, he hasn't seen a lot of 6'2 women lately.
Well, i think i judge it well in my opinion, i haven't made a mistake more than 2 cm when in person, and have often guessed within a cm the real height. But yes, when watching pictures, movies etc it's more difficult to guess the right height i guess.
@adrianjacobs Yes, are you going to show us some long legs there, invite them out, i'll buy the beers :P Rockaway is curious too, he hasn't seen a lot of 6'2 women lately.
Well, i think i judge it well in my opinion, i haven't made a mistake more than 2 cm when in person, and have often guessed within a cm the real height. But yes, when watching pictures, movies etc it's more difficult to guess the right height i guess.
Charline said on 12/May/23
@Jdubbz Maybe is the contrary, maybe I am the ONE who made a 5'2 woman's MAN realise what a real woman looks like and what a real feminine intelligence is, and also what a fresh younger prettier woman looks like, and most importantly what a down to earth female is like compared to the pampered older shorter woman. Maybe she is the one whose life is now hell because of this real feminine force. Because I don't have nothing what to envy at 5'2 womanlet height at all. So please don't try arguing with me for things you have no idea for what is happening. You don't have the slightest idea what kind of a ty and unworthy person compared to me she is.
@Jdubbz Maybe is the contrary, maybe I am the ONE who made a 5'2 woman's MAN realise what a real woman looks like and what a real feminine intelligence is, and also what a fresh younger prettier woman looks like, and most importantly what a down to earth female is like compared to the pampered older shorter woman. Maybe she is the one whose life is now hell because of this real feminine force. Because I don't have nothing what to envy at 5'2 womanlet height at all. So please don't try arguing with me for things you have no idea for what is happening. You don't have the slightest idea what kind of a ty and unworthy person compared to me she is.
arvedtall said on 12/May/23
For those who glorify extreme tallness I can present my "health chart" as a 6'8'' person:
up to age 34: no diagnosed health problems
age 35: venous insufficiency diagnosed in the legs
age 36: osteoarthritis in the hip joints
age 39: degenerative scoliosis
age 40: osteoarthritis in the knee joints
age 41: nerve damages due to degenerative processes in the spine
age 41: irregular heartbeat
I can understand any young guy who admires tallness, but if you think about the long term consequences in terms of health you maybe see it differently.
For those who glorify extreme tallness I can present my "health chart" as a 6'8'' person:
up to age 34: no diagnosed health problems
age 35: venous insufficiency diagnosed in the legs
age 36: osteoarthritis in the hip joints
age 39: degenerative scoliosis
age 40: osteoarthritis in the knee joints
age 41: nerve damages due to degenerative processes in the spine
age 41: irregular heartbeat
I can understand any young guy who admires tallness, but if you think about the long term consequences in terms of health you maybe see it differently.
Poster said on 11/May/23
@Jdubbz: You and I both know that it's a ridiculous comment. It would make more sense if she would claim that about 4'11" women, in their twenties, who aren't well endowed. It's still insulting to them, though. It's safe to say that Charline, if "she's" not a troll, has issues.
@Jdubbz: You and I both know that it's a ridiculous comment. It would make more sense if she would claim that about 4'11" women, in their twenties, who aren't well endowed. It's still insulting to them, though. It's safe to say that Charline, if "she's" not a troll, has issues.
Whatcaniclaim? said on 11/May/23
UK I’m 185cm morning, few mm under 184 lunch, between 183-183.5 at bed. Am I 6 foot flat? 6 foot and a half? Strong 6 footer?
I feel above/average tallish, but quickly and easily not feel tall. I can go from being tallest in group to one of the shortest quite easily.
Almost never see a woman taller than me. In general feels like a solid height.
UK I’m 185cm morning, few mm under 184 lunch, between 183-183.5 at bed. Am I 6 foot flat? 6 foot and a half? Strong 6 footer?
I feel above/average tallish, but quickly and easily not feel tall. I can go from being tallest in group to one of the shortest quite easily.
Almost never see a woman taller than me. In general feels like a solid height.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 11/May/23
Any idea on the Documentary maker Morgan Spurlock,Rob? The super size me guy. Claims 6'2 but looks more 186-187cm range to me.
Editor Rob
Any idea on the Documentary maker Morgan Spurlock,Rob? The super size me guy. Claims 6'2 but looks more 186-187cm range to me.
Editor RobHe does look over 6ft 1, but yeah I agree he might not be a full 6ft 2.
Charline said on 11/May/23
In general the perfection height range for female gender is min.solid 5'3 and max. solid 5'5. Height wise USA has healthier female average height than European countries and also than Asian countries ( excluding South Korea) who are quite short on average at 5'0-5'2, USA wins because the exact average female height that World Health Organization has confirmed a typical 5'4 (everyone can type and find it in google) so considering 5'4 is considered medically average height of fully grown females, it means 5'3-5'5 is the ideal feminine height.
In general the perfection height range for female gender is min.solid 5'3 and max. solid 5'5. Height wise USA has healthier female average height than European countries and also than Asian countries ( excluding South Korea) who are quite short on average at 5'0-5'2, USA wins because the exact average female height that World Health Organization has confirmed a typical 5'4 (everyone can type and find it in google) so considering 5'4 is considered medically average height of fully grown females, it means 5'3-5'5 is the ideal feminine height.
k916 said on 11/May/23
@ROB would a 168-9cm person be up to the mouth area of 189cm person?
Editor Rob
@ROB would a 168-9cm person be up to the mouth area of 189cm person?
Editor RobMaybe bottom of lower lip.
5'10.25" said on 11/May/23
@Charline not childlike lol, I just don't find those women at those height ranges particuraly attractive, that's it.
@Charline not childlike lol, I just don't find those women at those height ranges particuraly attractive, that's it.
Charline said on 11/May/23
@ Henrik Yes, you are right, because even though many immigrants who grow there, grow tall as well, even I have heard of a late teenager girl that grew an inch when she moved to Sweden, after stopping growing at 14, she continued the growing process for a whole one inch again after 3-4 years she stopped growing. I think that happened because of the quality air and water, and also food in stores is extremely controlled in Sweden, they don't dare to keep unhealthy foods in supermarkets. But with all those qualities, it's true that immigrants have weaker genetic in general, so yes it's much more common for example to see a 5'11 ethnic swedish woman than 5'11 foreigner one.
@ Henrik Yes, you are right, because even though many immigrants who grow there, grow tall as well, even I have heard of a late teenager girl that grew an inch when she moved to Sweden, after stopping growing at 14, she continued the growing process for a whole one inch again after 3-4 years she stopped growing. I think that happened because of the quality air and water, and also food in stores is extremely controlled in Sweden, they don't dare to keep unhealthy foods in supermarkets. But with all those qualities, it's true that immigrants have weaker genetic in general, so yes it's much more common for example to see a 5'11 ethnic swedish woman than 5'11 foreigner one.
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
Also, what's funny Adrian is that I brought that up (wanting to be taller at 6'3) because I was supporting YOUR ARGUMENT when you claimed that 6'4 isn't very tall in Sweden, which I still agree with. I only brought that up to defend you, and now you're using that against me? Do you realize how scummy that is? I hope you don't do that to people IRL, because that's not exactly how you make friends.
Also, what's funny Adrian is that I brought that up (wanting to be taller at 6'3) because I was supporting YOUR ARGUMENT when you claimed that 6'4 isn't very tall in Sweden, which I still agree with. I only brought that up to defend you, and now you're using that against me? Do you realize how scummy that is? I hope you don't do that to people IRL, because that's not exactly how you make friends.
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
@AdrianJacobs:
And yes, every time you bring up how short you feel at 6'0.5 in Sweden, you are implying that you wish you were taller. Are you pretending otherwise? You are obviously extremely insecure about your height, and anyone can see it. At least I'm not pretending I wasn't. The more you deny it, the more obvious it is.
@AdrianJacobs:
And yes, every time you bring up how short you feel at 6'0.5 in Sweden, you are implying that you wish you were taller. Are you pretending otherwise? You are obviously extremely insecure about your height, and anyone can see it. At least I'm not pretending I wasn't. The more you deny it, the more obvious it is.
Henrik said on 11/May/23
Still, having said that, the Egyptian-origin YouTuber Mohammed Hijab is 6ft 6-7, so there certainly are some tall Middle Eastern people.
Still, having said that, the Egyptian-origin YouTuber Mohammed Hijab is 6ft 6-7, so there certainly are some tall Middle Eastern people.
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
@AdrianJacobs:
Yes, I said 6'4-5 guys in particular not because there are a ton of them walking around in the US, but because that was my minimum predicted height. They're also very easy to notice when you're 6'3.
So what? I never said I wasn't insecure about my height at one point. Why are you bringing that up out of nowhere? People are ripping on you not because you're insecure about your height (let's face it, most people here are or have been at one point), but because you're starting to say outlandish things and are being very passive aggressive as of late. Why the hostility? I actually defended you a while back and now you're lashing out at me?
@AdrianJacobs:
Yes, I said 6'4-5 guys in particular not because there are a ton of them walking around in the US, but because that was my minimum predicted height. They're also very easy to notice when you're 6'3.
So what? I never said I wasn't insecure about my height at one point. Why are you bringing that up out of nowhere? People are ripping on you not because you're insecure about your height (let's face it, most people here are or have been at one point), but because you're starting to say outlandish things and are being very passive aggressive as of late. Why the hostility? I actually defended you a while back and now you're lashing out at me?
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
@Charline:
Wtf? Did a 5'2 woman steal your boyfriend or something? Why do you hate 5'2 women so much? You seem to be projecting a lot in your comments, and I am curious why.
@Charline:
Wtf? Did a 5'2 woman steal your boyfriend or something? Why do you hate 5'2 women so much? You seem to be projecting a lot in your comments, and I am curious why.
rlheight5'11 said on 11/May/23
@5'10.25"
Yeah an inch isn't much and 6'1 is kinda
tall.
@5'10.25"
Yeah an inch isn't much and 6'1 is kinda
tall.
Henrik said on 11/May/23
I think that, generally, ethnic Swedes are taller than those of immigrant background. I'm sure that the children of immigrants grow taller than their parents and averages of their home countries, but there is a still a difference that is attributed to genetic factors.
Click Here
^^ Basically those who have a lot of "Yamnaya" admixture (which is associated with modern-day ethnic Northern Europeans) are more likely to be tall.
This article (paywall) below claims that the Swedish average has shrunk from 5ft 11 (men born in 1956) to 5ft 10 in 2016. It also states that men born in 1990 measured 181.7cm...
Click Here
I think that, generally, ethnic Swedes are taller than those of immigrant background. I'm sure that the children of immigrants grow taller than their parents and averages of their home countries, but there is a still a difference that is attributed to genetic factors.
Click Here
^^ Basically those who have a lot of "Yamnaya" admixture (which is associated with modern-day ethnic Northern Europeans) are more likely to be tall.
This article (paywall) below claims that the Swedish average has shrunk from 5ft 11 (men born in 1956) to 5ft 10 in 2016. It also states that men born in 1990 measured 181.7cm...
Click Here
oren metser said on 11/May/23
I measure in the morning, an hour out of bed , a tad over 1.82m or 1.822m(5'11 and 3/4).On a different day ,I measured 1.815m (5'11.5)at 18:30 in the evening, after having gone to sleep at 00:30 and woken up at 8:15, run at the gym for 30-35 minutes and driven a car 30-40 minutes each time,then when do I precisely hit 1.82m on the dot? Thanks in advance.
I measure in the morning, an hour out of bed , a tad over 1.82m or 1.822m(5'11 and 3/4).On a different day ,I measured 1.815m (5'11.5)at 18:30 in the evening, after having gone to sleep at 00:30 and woken up at 8:15, run at the gym for 30-35 minutes and driven a car 30-40 minutes each time,then when do I precisely hit 1.82m on the dot? Thanks in advance.
adrianjacobs said on 11/May/23
@Jdubbz
Lol, I just found this quote by you from 12th of March this year:
"I also really didn't enjoy seeing guys on my campus who were taller than me. It got to the point that I was actually insecure about being "only" 6'3, which I know sounds ridiculous."
And this one as well from the same day:
"I still felt a little insecure about my height until I hit 6'4-5 or 194-195cm. I guess at 6'3 I was tall but still saw a decent number of guys taller than me."
It's totally noticeable how you were insecure about your height only because you didn't grow as tall you were supposed to be, like you said today.
@Jdubbz
Lol, I just found this quote by you from 12th of March this year:
"I also really didn't enjoy seeing guys on my campus who were taller than me. It got to the point that I was actually insecure about being "only" 6'3, which I know sounds ridiculous."
And this one as well from the same day:
"I still felt a little insecure about my height until I hit 6'4-5 or 194-195cm. I guess at 6'3 I was tall but still saw a decent number of guys taller than me."
It's totally noticeable how you were insecure about your height only because you didn't grow as tall you were supposed to be, like you said today.
Charline said on 11/May/23
@Poster @Jdubbz You both can try to defend how much you want 5'2 women, but you can't deny the fact that they are height conscious all the time, are terribly insecure, wear high heels even in second trimester of pregnancy and even buy their child 5-8 year son athletes with lifts ( that shows how much obsessive they are). Neither of you can tell me anything about them, because I have seen such women many times and they are TERRIBLY INSECURE. Even a fool can notice that they look clearly SHORT.
@Poster @Jdubbz You both can try to defend how much you want 5'2 women, but you can't deny the fact that they are height conscious all the time, are terribly insecure, wear high heels even in second trimester of pregnancy and even buy their child 5-8 year son athletes with lifts ( that shows how much obsessive they are). Neither of you can tell me anything about them, because I have seen such women many times and they are TERRIBLY INSECURE. Even a fool can notice that they look clearly SHORT.
adrianjacobs said on 11/May/23
I'm going to ask once again, since no one seems to have answered. Given that many of you have a more accurate height perception than me like you say, why did you all underestimate how tall I am?
I uploaded a video to prove my height, so you can't just blame me for thinking that I'm taller than I am.
I'm going to ask once again, since no one seems to have answered. Given that many of you have a more accurate height perception than me like you say, why did you all underestimate how tall I am?
I uploaded a video to prove my height, so you can't just blame me for thinking that I'm taller than I am.
adrianjacobs said on 11/May/23
@Charline
And I'm closer to 6'1 than 6ft.
@Charline
And I'm closer to 6'1 than 6ft.
adrianjacobs said on 11/May/23
@Charline
1. I'm less than half-Swedish, thank God.
2. Swedes hate everyone who look slightly differently, no matter what Americans who fetishize Sweden say. Everyone with less than a favourable appearance, even if it's just genetical defects and not clothes, is deemed "autistic".
3. Immigrants here are tall as well.
@Charline
1. I'm less than half-Swedish, thank God.
2. Swedes hate everyone who look slightly differently, no matter what Americans who fetishize Sweden say. Everyone with less than a favourable appearance, even if it's just genetical defects and not clothes, is deemed "autistic".
3. Immigrants here are tall as well.
adrianjacobs said on 11/May/23
@Jdubbz
"Don’t bring me into your delusion. I was insecure about being 6’3 (not 6’4) because I was a very tall kid who was projected to be much taller than that and thought my growth was stunted somehow."
-I was projected to be about 6'2. In spite of that, you don't see me complaining about my stunted height, even though I'm considerably much shorter than 6'3.
"I wasn’t insecure because I thought I was living in giant land where the average guy was 6’3.5. Get a grip on reality."
-And I said that the average was close to 6'2, which some users who have been here agreed with.
@Jdubbz
"Don’t bring me into your delusion. I was insecure about being 6’3 (not 6’4) because I was a very tall kid who was projected to be much taller than that and thought my growth was stunted somehow."
-I was projected to be about 6'2. In spite of that, you don't see me complaining about my stunted height, even though I'm considerably much shorter than 6'3.
"I wasn’t insecure because I thought I was living in giant land where the average guy was 6’3.5. Get a grip on reality."
-And I said that the average was close to 6'2, which some users who have been here agreed with.
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
@QM6'1.75"QM
As far as the other things you mentioned (aside from posture), I don't think that necessarily has to do with height. I've seen many shorter guys with messed up skeletons (bad facial structure, scoliosis, unfavorable proportions etc.) and guys around my height who look like greek statues.
As far as tendency to break bones, I don't think that is true either. There is a study I saw that was trying to determine how each part of the body scaled with height (in terms of mass, size, composition, etc.) and discovered that taller people have HIGHER bone mineral density relative to their skeletal size and weight compared to shorter people. I've personally never broken a bone in my life, and I'm not a sedentary person!
@QM6'1.75"QM
As far as the other things you mentioned (aside from posture), I don't think that necessarily has to do with height. I've seen many shorter guys with messed up skeletons (bad facial structure, scoliosis, unfavorable proportions etc.) and guys around my height who look like greek statues.
As far as tendency to break bones, I don't think that is true either. There is a study I saw that was trying to determine how each part of the body scaled with height (in terms of mass, size, composition, etc.) and discovered that taller people have HIGHER bone mineral density relative to their skeletal size and weight compared to shorter people. I've personally never broken a bone in my life, and I'm not a sedentary person!
Jdubbz said on 11/May/23
Poster said on 10/May/23
I don't agree that 5'2 women look "childish"! I don't understand this reasoning. Millions of women are that height or shorter. I've never heard anybody say that about a 5'2 woman.
Yeah, that's such a ridiculous thing to say. I'd argue that billions of women around the world are 5'2 or shorter. Maybe half of all women worldwide. Height alone doesn't make someone look childish. Body and facial structure play a huge role.
Poster said on 10/May/23
I don't agree that 5'2 women look "childish"! I don't understand this reasoning. Millions of women are that height or shorter. I've never heard anybody say that about a 5'2 woman.
Yeah, that's such a ridiculous thing to say. I'd argue that billions of women around the world are 5'2 or shorter. Maybe half of all women worldwide. Height alone doesn't make someone look childish. Body and facial structure play a huge role.
Discord said on 11/May/23
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Who is taller, Rob? Or are they same height? My grandfather(173 cm) and uncle as a teen(he is 177 cm now)
Editor Rob
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Who is taller, Rob? Or are they same height? My grandfather(173 cm) and uncle as a teen(he is 177 cm now)
Editor RobWould have guessed Uncle as near 175cm there, unless Grandfather was losing more height (or his sandal is thinner than Uncle's boot).
Henrik said on 11/May/23
@dreus23
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I didn't say 181.5cm was the average for the overall population. It covered the ages 20-29 in 2008. AdrianJacobs only compares himself to people his age and young adults.
@dreus23
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I didn't say 181.5cm was the average for the overall population. It covered the ages 20-29 in 2008. AdrianJacobs only compares himself to people his age and young adults.
Poster said on 10/May/23
I don't agree that 5'2 women look "childish"! I don't understand this reasoning. Millions of women are that height or shorter. I've never heard anybody say that about a 5'2 woman.
I don't agree that 5'2 women look "childish"! I don't understand this reasoning. Millions of women are that height or shorter. I've never heard anybody say that about a 5'2 woman.
Charline said on 10/May/23
@adrianjacobs Now, come on don't make such foolish statements, because you're not the only swede, because there are 8 milion swedes in Sweden, and the other 2 milion, 1 milion of them is Arab(which you swedes hate extremely much, even though I can't blame you in that matter very much because many times they have proved many bad actions as a nation, but the matter is that you too ABSOLUTELY hate other nationalities there) and the other 1 milion is made of many other nationalities. And also many of us that write on this site have visited Sweden,including Stockholm. And the average there is 6 foot, yes there you can see 6'3-6'5 men walking on the streets, but also you can see 5'7-5'9 immigrants, so if you're really 6 foot as you say, I honestly can't understand your insecurity every time you write something here. Don't overestimate the average, please and don't keep repeating the same and the same that 6'3/6'4 isn't tall because that is undoubtedly VERY TALL in EVERY CORNER of this world. As you can see we're all against your false statements, and we can't all be wrong, and you the only "Wise" here.
@adrianjacobs Now, come on don't make such foolish statements, because you're not the only swede, because there are 8 milion swedes in Sweden, and the other 2 milion, 1 milion of them is Arab(which you swedes hate extremely much, even though I can't blame you in that matter very much because many times they have proved many bad actions as a nation, but the matter is that you too ABSOLUTELY hate other nationalities there) and the other 1 milion is made of many other nationalities. And also many of us that write on this site have visited Sweden,including Stockholm. And the average there is 6 foot, yes there you can see 6'3-6'5 men walking on the streets, but also you can see 5'7-5'9 immigrants, so if you're really 6 foot as you say, I honestly can't understand your insecurity every time you write something here. Don't overestimate the average, please and don't keep repeating the same and the same that 6'3/6'4 isn't tall because that is undoubtedly VERY TALL in EVERY CORNER of this world. As you can see we're all against your false statements, and we can't all be wrong, and you the only "Wise" here.
QM6'1.75"QM said on 10/May/23
Jdubbz said on 9/May/23
Oh yeah,one of my childhood friends, very tall guy maybe 6'4", his main problem is bad front teeth, so skeleton again.
In my case, I don't wear glasses, didn't broke my legs and my brother says that my posture is great.
Jdubbz said on 9/May/23
Oh yeah,one of my childhood friends, very tall guy maybe 6'4", his main problem is bad front teeth, so skeleton again.
In my case, I don't wear glasses, didn't broke my legs and my brother says that my posture is great.
QM6'1.75"QM said on 10/May/23
Jdubbz said on 9/May/23
In my case, as i growing up my skull becoming wider and longer. Taller height = more bones, lol.
At 5'11-6'0" i was quite different person mentally and physically. Face is changed a bit.
My brother is the same, at 6'1.25" he had perfect body, at 6'3" he haven't it anymore = really long legs and long skull plus hair.
That's why i always keep 6'1" as my perfect height, it's something about aesthetics like James Hetfield, Roger Moore, CR7, Eric Dane, Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
Also it's really much harder to have better health, straight skeleton and posture ... My brother, 6'5" guy, broke his legs!
Other mate, solid 6'3", broke his legs + wear glasses.
Other 6'3" friend is wear glasses too.
One guy from basketball team ...one broken leg and he's 6'4" ... So it's a real life!
Jdubbz said on 9/May/23
In my case, as i growing up my skull becoming wider and longer. Taller height = more bones, lol.
At 5'11-6'0" i was quite different person mentally and physically. Face is changed a bit.
My brother is the same, at 6'1.25" he had perfect body, at 6'3" he haven't it anymore = really long legs and long skull plus hair.
That's why i always keep 6'1" as my perfect height, it's something about aesthetics like James Hetfield, Roger Moore, CR7, Eric Dane, Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
Also it's really much harder to have better health, straight skeleton and posture ... My brother, 6'5" guy, broke his legs!
Other mate, solid 6'3", broke his legs + wear glasses.
Other 6'3" friend is wear glasses too.
One guy from basketball team ...one broken leg and he's 6'4" ... So it's a real life!
dreus23 said on 10/May/23
@Henrik
I don't think the Swedish average height for men was 181.7 cm 15 years ago, if you have that study then it would be lovely if you could share it. I've read anywhere from 179-181 cm but never above or under that. I have a generally hard time imagining that the national average for Sweden, as in for the entire country, is close to 183 cm. The last thing I personally read was like 179.6 cm and I've also heard 181 cm. I'd generally say a bit over 180 cm seems a decent average for men while 167-168 seems likely for women
@K_916
For me it's largely just insecurity. Most of my time spent on here has been to tame my anxieties and neuroticism toward this subject so that I don't start involving it in my day-to-day life with people I spend actual time with. I'd say most regular posters on this website suffer from some sort of neuroticism surrounding height (with some clear exceptions of course, like Sandy or Nik, who just seem like nice people) and although I think it's a good website for the sake of truth, it definitely doesn't benefit someone who's on the edge of becoming unhealthily obsessed with the subject. Just a side note; I definitely don't talk about height all the time. In fact, in recent time, I try talking about it as little as possible and ignoring it. It's pretty often on my mind unfortunately, but I'm working on it
@Henrik
I don't think the Swedish average height for men was 181.7 cm 15 years ago, if you have that study then it would be lovely if you could share it. I've read anywhere from 179-181 cm but never above or under that. I have a generally hard time imagining that the national average for Sweden, as in for the entire country, is close to 183 cm. The last thing I personally read was like 179.6 cm and I've also heard 181 cm. I'd generally say a bit over 180 cm seems a decent average for men while 167-168 seems likely for women
@K_916
For me it's largely just insecurity. Most of my time spent on here has been to tame my anxieties and neuroticism toward this subject so that I don't start involving it in my day-to-day life with people I spend actual time with. I'd say most regular posters on this website suffer from some sort of neuroticism surrounding height (with some clear exceptions of course, like Sandy or Nik, who just seem like nice people) and although I think it's a good website for the sake of truth, it definitely doesn't benefit someone who's on the edge of becoming unhealthily obsessed with the subject. Just a side note; I definitely don't talk about height all the time. In fact, in recent time, I try talking about it as little as possible and ignoring it. It's pretty often on my mind unfortunately, but I'm working on it
Emil said on 10/May/23
@adrianjacobs
Dude, chill, I just found your comment about "unpopular kids going abroad" a bit edgy.
@adrianjacobs
Dude, chill, I just found your comment about "unpopular kids going abroad" a bit edgy.
Jdubbz said on 10/May/23
@AdrianJacobs:
Don’t bring me into your delusion. I was insecure about being 6’3 (not 6’4) because I was a very tall kid who was projected to be much taller than that and thought my growth was stunted somehow.
I wasn’t insecure because I thought I was living in giant land where the average guy was 6’3.5. Get a grip on reality.
@AdrianJacobs:
Don’t bring me into your delusion. I was insecure about being 6’3 (not 6’4) because I was a very tall kid who was projected to be much taller than that and thought my growth was stunted somehow.
I wasn’t insecure because I thought I was living in giant land where the average guy was 6’3.5. Get a grip on reality.
Charline said on 10/May/23
@5'10.25 I saw that you too agree that women under 160 look quite short and children like. What is your opinion on the fact that 157-159 females look childish, while 160-163 ones quite normal?
@5'10.25 I saw that you too agree that women under 160 look quite short and children like. What is your opinion on the fact that 157-159 females look childish, while 160-163 ones quite normal?
adrianjacobs said on 10/May/23
@Everyone who like to argue with me
If I'm so delusional about the average height in Sweden, why did all of you who have a more "trained" eye than me, underestimate my height by several inches in my photos?
@Everyone who like to argue with me
If I'm so delusional about the average height in Sweden, why did all of you who have a more "trained" eye than me, underestimate my height by several inches in my photos?
adrianjacobs said on 10/May/23
@Emil
I need to take meds? But I suppose saying things like "tall men/people doing better in getting jobs and socializing" (by QM6'1.75"QM) is fine?
Being insecure about being too short at 6'4 in America like Jdubbz was is fine too I suppose. The only reason he "grew out of it" is because he literally grew taller.
@Emil
I need to take meds? But I suppose saying things like "tall men/people doing better in getting jobs and socializing" (by QM6'1.75"QM) is fine?
Being insecure about being too short at 6'4 in America like Jdubbz was is fine too I suppose. The only reason he "grew out of it" is because he literally grew taller.
oren metser said on 10/May/23
I measure in the morning, an hour out of bed , a tad over 1.82m or 1.822m(5'11 and 3/4).On a different day ,I measured 1.815m (5'11.5)at 18:30 in the evening, after having gone to sleep at 00:30 and woken up at 8:15, run at the gym for 30-35 minutes and driven a car 30-40 minutes each time,then when do I precisely hit 1.82m on the dot? Thanks in advance.
I measure in the morning, an hour out of bed , a tad over 1.82m or 1.822m(5'11 and 3/4).On a different day ,I measured 1.815m (5'11.5)at 18:30 in the evening, after having gone to sleep at 00:30 and woken up at 8:15, run at the gym for 30-35 minutes and driven a car 30-40 minutes each time,then when do I precisely hit 1.82m on the dot? Thanks in advance.
Gian 181cm said on 10/May/23
@Tallish guy
You can go with 6ft 1/2 or 6ft 3/4, maybe a 6ft1 claim isn't bad (although it's tempting not to claim).
@Alex
Yes, I would also go with 6ft 1/2 with those measurements.
I would say you are a solid 6ft.
@Tallish guy
You can go with 6ft 1/2 or 6ft 3/4, maybe a 6ft1 claim isn't bad (although it's tempting not to claim).
@Alex
Yes, I would also go with 6ft 1/2 with those measurements.
I would say you are a solid 6ft.
Alex 6'0 said on 10/May/23
Gian,6'0.25-6'0 3/8 low thats a 6'0.5 claim id personally go with. My case I'm no taller than 6'0 1/8 midday unless a pretty inactive day. Most my days are pretty active mainly work days so I'm gonna hit my low earlier then extreme low by evening especially after gym. Ive always just said 6'0. To claim 6'0.5 you should be at least 6'0.25 at a normal low.
Gian,6'0.25-6'0 3/8 low thats a 6'0.5 claim id personally go with. My case I'm no taller than 6'0 1/8 midday unless a pretty inactive day. Most my days are pretty active mainly work days so I'm gonna hit my low earlier then extreme low by evening especially after gym. Ive always just said 6'0. To claim 6'0.5 you should be at least 6'0.25 at a normal low.
5'10.25" said on 10/May/23
@Charline I notice if I am really paying attention. I don't notice a height difference unless it's at least 2-4 cm and even then people sometimes can look the same height due to posture, footwear etc. But yes, even a cm can be noticable, but not if you're jut glancing over though.
@Charline I notice if I am really paying attention. I don't notice a height difference unless it's at least 2-4 cm and even then people sometimes can look the same height due to posture, footwear etc. But yes, even a cm can be noticable, but not if you're jut glancing over though.
Charline said on 9/May/23
@5'10.25 Okay 👍 Every person on this earth has his own preference and 5'7 I also think that is a great height for females. But I would like to know your opinion in the fact that many 5'6.5 or 5'6.75 169, 169.5 cm claim 5'7 when they're truly not, but the untrained eyes of course believe them, I do notice them clearly personally. Do you notice them too (as you are interested in height guessing as of all of us who comment here) that they're not in reality 5'7 women (even though they get really close)?
@5'10.25 Okay 👍 Every person on this earth has his own preference and 5'7 I also think that is a great height for females. But I would like to know your opinion in the fact that many 5'6.5 or 5'6.75 169, 169.5 cm claim 5'7 when they're truly not, but the untrained eyes of course believe them, I do notice them clearly personally. Do you notice them too (as you are interested in height guessing as of all of us who comment here) that they're not in reality 5'7 women (even though they get really close)?
5'10.25" said on 9/May/23
@Henrik The Dutch are the tallest and about 183 cm range. Bosnians average 183-184 cm only in the dinaric area, which is about 30% of the country, the overal average for the country is 180 cm (182 cm younger guys) and only about 179 cm in the north. So that statement is incorrect.
@Henrik The Dutch are the tallest and about 183 cm range. Bosnians average 183-184 cm only in the dinaric area, which is about 30% of the country, the overal average for the country is 180 cm (182 cm younger guys) and only about 179 cm in the north. So that statement is incorrect.
Emil said on 9/May/23
@adrianjacobs
The unpopular Swedish kids study abroad? Lmao ok,bro. Don't forget your meds
@adrianjacobs
The unpopular Swedish kids study abroad? Lmao ok,bro. Don't forget your meds
Progking185 said on 9/May/23
@QM6'1.75 6'0.5 is a great height yeah, that at my low and generally its fairly tall. Though its in that kind of weird range where sometimes it feels just slightly above average depending on which crowd your in. Which is why solid tall is more like around 6'2+ imo, so your height
@QM6'1.75 6'0.5 is a great height yeah, that at my low and generally its fairly tall. Though its in that kind of weird range where sometimes it feels just slightly above average depending on which crowd your in. Which is why solid tall is more like around 6'2+ imo, so your height
Jdubbz said on 9/May/23
QM6'1.75"QM said on 9/May/23
pov said on 8/May/23
Oh, 6'0.5" is just incredible height, very comfortable. I was 184cms at 17 y.o.
Honestly over this height, you becoming more lanky and long faced, i noticed when reached 6'1"+.
Back then never thought that i will reach almost 6'2 tall.
I have to disagree. I'm not lanky and long faced even 15cm above 184cm. It's more likely the taller you are but not a guaranteed thing. If someone is prone to those type of proportions, it usually doesn't show up until your height at least.
QM6'1.75"QM said on 9/May/23
pov said on 8/May/23
Oh, 6'0.5" is just incredible height, very comfortable. I was 184cms at 17 y.o.
Honestly over this height, you becoming more lanky and long faced, i noticed when reached 6'1"+.
Back then never thought that i will reach almost 6'2 tall.
I have to disagree. I'm not lanky and long faced even 15cm above 184cm. It's more likely the taller you are but not a guaranteed thing. If someone is prone to those type of proportions, it usually doesn't show up until your height at least.
Tallish guy said on 9/May/23
@Gian 181cm
🤣🤣
Btw im close in height with him.
What should I claim if I am 186cm out of bed and 184.2cm before bed?
@Gian 181cm
🤣🤣
Btw im close in height with him.
What should I claim if I am 186cm out of bed and 184.2cm before bed?
Gian 181cm said on 9/May/23
@Tallish guy
Of course sir, all I ask is that you show me your international height inspector card so I can apologize.
Seriously now.
6ft0 1/4 - 1/2 still makes him a 184cm guy, particularly myself would claim 6ft 1/2, it's kind of weird to explain but for example I sometimes say I'm a strong 5ft11 but I claim 5ftt11.25.
It's kind of subjective terms like strong, solid, etc.
Maybe I expressed myself badly, but he is indeed a 184cm guy.
@Tallish guy
Of course sir, all I ask is that you show me your international height inspector card so I can apologize.
Seriously now.
6ft0 1/4 - 1/2 still makes him a 184cm guy, particularly myself would claim 6ft 1/2, it's kind of weird to explain but for example I sometimes say I'm a strong 5ft11 but I claim 5ftt11.25.
It's kind of subjective terms like strong, solid, etc.
Maybe I expressed myself badly, but he is indeed a 184cm guy.
Henrik said on 9/May/23
@5'10 Abdul
This article in The Telegraph says 183.8cm for the Netherlands. The tallest country in the world, it states, is Bosnia and Herzegovina at 183.9cm.
Click Here
@5'10 Abdul
This article in The Telegraph says 183.8cm for the Netherlands. The tallest country in the world, it states, is Bosnia and Herzegovina at 183.9cm.
Click Here
5'10 Abdul said on 9/May/23
It’s me. I am back.
So what’s the average height in the Netherlands again. ??
My guess for the overall population somewhere between (179.5 / 182.5 cm)…
It’s me. I am back.
So what’s the average height in the Netherlands again. ??
My guess for the overall population somewhere between (179.5 / 182.5 cm)…
Henrik said on 9/May/23
@Jdubbz
Yeah, all of those measurements were at my evening low. My eye level is 178cm in the morning (height 189.5cm).
@Jdubbz
Yeah, all of those measurements were at my evening low. My eye level is 178cm in the morning (height 189.5cm).
QM6'1.75"QM said on 9/May/23
pov said on 8/May/23
Oh, 6'0.5" is just incredible height, very comfortable. I was 184cms at 17 y.o.
Honestly over this height, you becoming more lanky and long faced, i noticed when reached 6'1"+.
Back then never thought that i will reach almost 6'2 tall.
pov said on 8/May/23
Oh, 6'0.5" is just incredible height, very comfortable. I was 184cms at 17 y.o.
Honestly over this height, you becoming more lanky and long faced, i noticed when reached 6'1"+.
Back then never thought that i will reach almost 6'2 tall.
K_916 said on 9/May/23
@ROB @EVERYONE How tall is someone with a 180cm eye level in nike airforce shoes ?
Editor Rob
@ROB @EVERYONE How tall is someone with a 180cm eye level in nike airforce shoes ?
Editor RobMaybe in 189-90cm range
Jdubbz said on 9/May/23
@Henrik:
I'm assuming you took these measurements at the same time of day, as height loss obv affects eye level. 11.5cm eye level (176cm) would be very normal but slightly on the high side for your height. 10.5cm eye level (177cm) would be a very high level in general and extremely high for your height.
@Henrik:
I'm assuming you took these measurements at the same time of day, as height loss obv affects eye level. 11.5cm eye level (176cm) would be very normal but slightly on the high side for your height. 10.5cm eye level (177cm) would be a very high level in general and extremely high for your height.
George89 said on 9/May/23
@Adrianjacobs
Saying things like "The kids that study abroad are the unpopular kids" makes me think you are dealing with some pretty big issues internally.
I studied at The Academy of Contemporary Music. The Swedish people there came to study music because its one of the best Contemporary music colleges in Europe. They were all extremely talented, good looking, high achieving people.
Your thinking in this matter shows me you're definitely off on your perceptions of reality.
Instead of judging the world so hard through your own skewed perceptions of reality. Try and take a break from what Adrian "thinks" and broaden your view on things in a more grown up and balanced manner. Wish you all the best Adrian.
@Adrianjacobs
Saying things like "The kids that study abroad are the unpopular kids" makes me think you are dealing with some pretty big issues internally.
I studied at The Academy of Contemporary Music. The Swedish people there came to study music because its one of the best Contemporary music colleges in Europe. They were all extremely talented, good looking, high achieving people.
Your thinking in this matter shows me you're definitely off on your perceptions of reality.
Instead of judging the world so hard through your own skewed perceptions of reality. Try and take a break from what Adrian "thinks" and broaden your view on things in a more grown up and balanced manner. Wish you all the best Adrian.
Henrik said on 9/May/23
@Jdubbz
I can sometimes get a higher (177cm) measurement but 176cm seems to be the lowest point and I've not yet seen a lower figure. So I assume 176cm feels pretty correct and 177cm f.e. is when the head is tilted too high.
@Jdubbz
I can sometimes get a higher (177cm) measurement but 176cm seems to be the lowest point and I've not yet seen a lower figure. So I assume 176cm feels pretty correct and 177cm f.e. is when the head is tilted too high.
5'10.25" said on 8/May/23
@adrianposter The tallest are dutch who average around 183.5 cm, not 182 cm or 184 cm (according to ncd data) and men in dinaric alps who average 183 cm and 184 cm young guys. So the tallest average in the world is 6'0"-6'1" range.
@adrianposter The tallest are dutch who average around 183.5 cm, not 182 cm or 184 cm (according to ncd data) and men in dinaric alps who average 183 cm and 184 cm young guys. So the tallest average in the world is 6'0"-6'1" range.
5'10.25" said on 8/May/23
@Charline Yes, when it comes to proportions in women. But, like I said before height is not that important to me.
@Charline Yes, when it comes to proportions in women. But, like I said before height is not that important to me.
Tallish guy said on 8/May/23
@Gian 181 cm
Even at his low on normal day he is taller than 6'0.25 so don't downgrade him.
@Gian 181 cm
Even at his low on normal day he is taller than 6'0.25 so don't downgrade him.
Gian 181cm said on 8/May/23
@adrianjacobs
The average for Sweden is 180 cm (Click Here).
Maybe you think: "It doesn't matter what the data show, what matters is my perception of reality", but does this kind of attitude objectively approach the truth? Is your thinking biased, leading you to infer incorrectly? Can you refute the articles that say the average is between 180-181cm? If yes, how? There are other people who are also from Sweden and they disagreed with you, are they wrong?
Maybe you don't mind refuting and believe your opinion is sufficient, but if you continue with that kind of thinking, would you say you're being rational? why would you choose to continue with a simple value judgment instead of scientifically and logically justifying your arguments? (At least when you're referring to statistical average heights, the scientific method is more effective.)
Another point, I don't need to live in Sweden to disagree with you about average height, I don't disagree because I want to, I disagree because I have the basis for it, the only thing I can't know or have access to is in relation to your experiences.
You can, if you want, adopt a skeptical but still intellectually honest stance, such as "scientific surveys cannot measure the entire population, so it is impossible to know exactly the average height, however it is the most effective method, but I maintain my impression that that the mean is higher even without good evidence for it".
My intention is just to show that our thinking about things cannot be reductionist.
And yes, I am also susceptible to making mistakes, following prejudices and having moments of insecurity about my height, but I manage to fight them by thinking about them calmly and rationally, as an activity of introspection.
No hate, just my two cents, I consider your height the beginning of tall height in Europe.
@adrianjacobs
The average for Sweden is 180 cm (Click Here).
Maybe you think: "It doesn't matter what the data show, what matters is my perception of reality", but does this kind of attitude objectively approach the truth? Is your thinking biased, leading you to infer incorrectly? Can you refute the articles that say the average is between 180-181cm? If yes, how? There are other people who are also from Sweden and they disagreed with you, are they wrong?
Maybe you don't mind refuting and believe your opinion is sufficient, but if you continue with that kind of thinking, would you say you're being rational? why would you choose to continue with a simple value judgment instead of scientifically and logically justifying your arguments? (At least when you're referring to statistical average heights, the scientific method is more effective.)
Another point, I don't need to live in Sweden to disagree with you about average height, I don't disagree because I want to, I disagree because I have the basis for it, the only thing I can't know or have access to is in relation to your experiences.
You can, if you want, adopt a skeptical but still intellectually honest stance, such as "scientific surveys cannot measure the entire population, so it is impossible to know exactly the average height, however it is the most effective method, but I maintain my impression that that the mean is higher even without good evidence for it".
My intention is just to show that our thinking about things cannot be reductionist.
And yes, I am also susceptible to making mistakes, following prejudices and having moments of insecurity about my height, but I manage to fight them by thinking about them calmly and rationally, as an activity of introspection.
No hate, just my two cents, I consider your height the beginning of tall height in Europe.
pov said on 8/May/23
@tallish guy @Gian 181cm
I claim 6”0.5, or 6 foot and some change. Most guys my height round up to 6”1 though.
I’m from the UK, I would say I feel above average / tallish, but I wouldn’t describe myself as a “tall guy”. I would say a legit tall starts at around just under 6”2 and above (187cm+)
@tallish guy @Gian 181cm
I claim 6”0.5, or 6 foot and some change. Most guys my height round up to 6”1 though.
I’m from the UK, I would say I feel above average / tallish, but I wouldn’t describe myself as a “tall guy”. I would say a legit tall starts at around just under 6”2 and above (187cm+)
Jdubbz said on 8/May/23
Henrik said on 8/May/23
How do you accurately measure eye level? Would a tape measure in front a mirror from the floor to pupil be correct? If that's the case then mine is 176cm at 187.5cm.
Yes Henrik, that's the best way to measure eye level. Make sure the tape measure is directly in front of your eye (not too far right or left), and also use the mirror to confirm that your head is perfectly neutral. Tilting it even slightly will throw off the measurement.
Alternatively, you can try to measure the distance from your pupil to the top of your head, then subtract that from your overall height.
Henrik said on 8/May/23
How do you accurately measure eye level? Would a tape measure in front a mirror from the floor to pupil be correct? If that's the case then mine is 176cm at 187.5cm.
Yes Henrik, that's the best way to measure eye level. Make sure the tape measure is directly in front of your eye (not too far right or left), and also use the mirror to confirm that your head is perfectly neutral. Tilting it even slightly will throw off the measurement.
Alternatively, you can try to measure the distance from your pupil to the top of your head, then subtract that from your overall height.
Jdubbz said on 8/May/23
adrianposter said on 8/May/23
this “adrianjacobs” guy is clearly trolling idk why you guys still play into it, anyone that says 192 cm is “average” in any place of the world is delusional, the highest averages in the world are the netherlands and dinaric alps which average around 184-185 cm and even that’s a bit of a stretch..
Up until a few months ago I thought you guys were the same person, haha.
adrianposter said on 8/May/23
this “adrianjacobs” guy is clearly trolling idk why you guys still play into it, anyone that says 192 cm is “average” in any place of the world is delusional, the highest averages in the world are the netherlands and dinaric alps which average around 184-185 cm and even that’s a bit of a stretch..
Up until a few months ago I thought you guys were the same person, haha.
James B 5ft8 said on 8/May/23
Met a well built guy the other night who claimed 6ft3. 6’3 is actually much taller than you would imagine and makes me wonder how many guys out there BS about being heights like 6ft6 for example.
Met a well built guy the other night who claimed 6ft3. 6’3 is actually much taller than you would imagine and makes me wonder how many guys out there BS about being heights like 6ft6 for example.
Gian 181cm said on 8/May/23
@OrenMaster
Morning: 182.5 cm - 183 cm
Lunch: 181.4 - 181.6 cm
Night: 180.7 - 181 cm
Extremely low measurement (after the gym): 180.5 - 180.6 cm
My training at the gym ranges from 40 minutes to 1 hour, sometimes 40 minutes of weight training and another 30 minutes of running.
@OrenMaster
Morning: 182.5 cm - 183 cm
Lunch: 181.4 - 181.6 cm
Night: 180.7 - 181 cm
Extremely low measurement (after the gym): 180.5 - 180.6 cm
My training at the gym ranges from 40 minutes to 1 hour, sometimes 40 minutes of weight training and another 30 minutes of running.
Gian 181cm said on 8/May/23
@pov
Strong 6'0.25.
Could claim 6 ft 1/2 as well.
@pov
Strong 6'0.25.
Could claim 6 ft 1/2 as well.
Tallish guy said on 8/May/23
@pov
And what height do you claim?
Do you feel tall at that height(idk what country do you live in)?
@pov
And what height do you claim?
Do you feel tall at that height(idk what country do you live in)?
Charline said on 8/May/23
@5'10.25 So for you 5'7 is the supremely ideal or perfect height? You feel that 160-169 is not enough and 172+ on the other hand too much?
@5'10.25 So for you 5'7 is the supremely ideal or perfect height? You feel that 160-169 is not enough and 172+ on the other hand too much?
Henrik said on 8/May/23
How do you accurately measure eye level? Would a tape measure in front a mirror from the floor to pupil be correct? If that's the case then mine is 176cm at 187.5cm.
How do you accurately measure eye level? Would a tape measure in front a mirror from the floor to pupil be correct? If that's the case then mine is 176cm at 187.5cm.
adrianjacobs said on 8/May/23
@George_89
I never even said the female average was 5'8? Why are everyone here attributing things to me I never said?
I would say the female average is about 5'6-5'8, clearly shorter than the female equivalent height of the male average, which I would say is about 6'1-6'3, at least in Stockholm.
I don't even pay attention to men taller than me passing me on the street, because that's the norm. I only notice when someone is shorter than me, and that's way less common than someone taller. 5'8 is extremely rare for an ethnic swede, but still more "common" than 5'10-5'11 which basically doesn't happen at all. I don't need you, a person who doesn't live here, to explain to me what the average is when you don't live here. It irritates me to no end how everyone here think they're entitled to do that.
I have a couple of explanations why you may think the average is 181cm:
1. You read that the "average" is supposedly 181cm and decided that you're not going to see it as anything else.
2. You're basing it off people's proportions, instead of actually paying attention to how tall they are. Many people here are tall but have "compressed" looking proportions, which gives them a 5'11-look when they're 6'2 in reality.
3. The ones who study abroad are the "unpopular" kids, and they are very often shorter than the "popular" ones.
@George_89
I never even said the female average was 5'8? Why are everyone here attributing things to me I never said?
I would say the female average is about 5'6-5'8, clearly shorter than the female equivalent height of the male average, which I would say is about 6'1-6'3, at least in Stockholm.
I don't even pay attention to men taller than me passing me on the street, because that's the norm. I only notice when someone is shorter than me, and that's way less common than someone taller. 5'8 is extremely rare for an ethnic swede, but still more "common" than 5'10-5'11 which basically doesn't happen at all. I don't need you, a person who doesn't live here, to explain to me what the average is when you don't live here. It irritates me to no end how everyone here think they're entitled to do that.
I have a couple of explanations why you may think the average is 181cm:
1. You read that the "average" is supposedly 181cm and decided that you're not going to see it as anything else.
2. You're basing it off people's proportions, instead of actually paying attention to how tall they are. Many people here are tall but have "compressed" looking proportions, which gives them a 5'11-look when they're 6'2 in reality.
3. The ones who study abroad are the "unpopular" kids, and they are very often shorter than the "popular" ones.
adrianposter said on 8/May/23
this “adrianjacobs” guy is clearly trolling idk why you guys still play into it, anyone that says 192 cm is “average” in any place of the world is delusional, the highest averages in the world are the netherlands and dinaric alps which average around 184-185 cm and even that’s a bit of a stretch..
this “adrianjacobs” guy is clearly trolling idk why you guys still play into it, anyone that says 192 cm is “average” in any place of the world is delusional, the highest averages in the world are the netherlands and dinaric alps which average around 184-185 cm and even that’s a bit of a stretch..
5'10.25" said on 8/May/23
@Charline I wouldn't go that far but yes 5'3" aand 5'4" are very attractive heights for women. I feel very big around women those heights but still normal and not look like their dad unless they are under 160 cm. I would still pick 170-171 cm women over 160-169 cm or 172 cm + women though.
@Charline I wouldn't go that far but yes 5'3" aand 5'4" are very attractive heights for women. I feel very big around women those heights but still normal and not look like their dad unless they are under 160 cm. I would still pick 170-171 cm women over 160-169 cm or 172 cm + women though.
pov said on 8/May/23
@oren metser, I usually shrink 1.7cm, but with max recorded with exercise I’ve shrunk 2.2)
Regular:
Morning I’m 185.4
Lunch I’m 184.2
Night I’m 183.7 (Night after 10k run and cross fit, 183.2 - all time lowest recorded)
@oren metser, I usually shrink 1.7cm, but with max recorded with exercise I’ve shrunk 2.2)
Regular:
Morning I’m 185.4
Lunch I’m 184.2
Night I’m 183.7 (Night after 10k run and cross fit, 183.2 - all time lowest recorded)
oren metser said on 8/May/23
How much do you think once shrinks in a span of 8-9 hours on average if he run at the gym for 30-40 minutes during that time?
How much do you think once shrinks in a span of 8-9 hours on average if he run at the gym for 30-40 minutes during that time?
Caleb 178.8cm said on 8/May/23
@Jdubbz
A few inches? That seems too much even for a man of Neil Fingleton's stature. I've never heard of any actual examples of people who measure heights that vary 3 inches from each other throughout the day. I did hear about a couple posters on this website who are in the 6'5-6'6 range who lose only 3/4" throughout the day, which is less than what I would expect and is what an average man loses in a day.
Examples of extremely tall people and how much their height can vary:
- 7'7"-listed Gheorge Muresan has measured 7'6.5" as an adult
- 7'5.5"-listed Yao Ming has measured 7'5" as an adult
- 7'6"-listed Shawn Bradley has measured 7'5.5" as an adult
I'm not sure if those heights are their lows though, but I doubt those guys' heights fluctuate throughout the day by anywhere close to 3 inches.
@Jdubbz
A few inches? That seems too much even for a man of Neil Fingleton's stature. I've never heard of any actual examples of people who measure heights that vary 3 inches from each other throughout the day. I did hear about a couple posters on this website who are in the 6'5-6'6 range who lose only 3/4" throughout the day, which is less than what I would expect and is what an average man loses in a day.
Examples of extremely tall people and how much their height can vary:
- 7'7"-listed Gheorge Muresan has measured 7'6.5" as an adult
- 7'5.5"-listed Yao Ming has measured 7'5" as an adult
- 7'6"-listed Shawn Bradley has measured 7'5.5" as an adult
I'm not sure if those heights are their lows though, but I doubt those guys' heights fluctuate throughout the day by anywhere close to 3 inches.
Jdubbz said on 8/May/23
@Charline:
You're exaggerating a bit. 5'3 and 5'4 women are great and about average height, but "goddesses on the Earth?" There is much much much more that goes into that sort of thing than height alone.
@Charline:
You're exaggerating a bit. 5'3 and 5'4 women are great and about average height, but "goddesses on the Earth?" There is much much much more that goes into that sort of thing than height alone.
Jdubbz said on 8/May/23
@Caleb:
Yeah, he rarely looks 7'8.5 in the pics I've seen of him. Then again I'm pretty sure he was officially measured at that height. I'm sure a guy that tall can easily lose a few inches just from bad posture.
@Caleb:
Yeah, he rarely looks 7'8.5 in the pics I've seen of him. Then again I'm pretty sure he was officially measured at that height. I'm sure a guy that tall can easily lose a few inches just from bad posture.
Jdubbz said on 8/May/23
@adrianjacobs
Ok, you win. I - a guy with a 4.7" eye level, have a high eye level. Happy? I'm moving on from this pointless topic.
@adrianjacobs
Ok, you win. I - a guy with a 4.7" eye level, have a high eye level. Happy? I'm moving on from this pointless topic.
pov said on 7/May/23
I’ve noticed height inflation is currently 1.5 inches. Most common inflations imo:
5”6.5 guys claiming 5”8 - extremely common
5”7.5 guys claiming 5”9 - extremely common
5”8.5 guys claiming 5”10 - MOST common
5”9.5 guys claiming 5”11 - very common
5”10.5 guys claiming 6”0 - extremely common
5”11.5 guys claiming 6”1 - extremely common
6”0.5 guys claiming 6”2 - less common (but a lot of guys height claims this)
6”1.5 guys claiming 6”3 - less common but happens
6”3 and above I’ve noticed people are more honest, but you do get the odd idiot
Now I don’t mind if someone claims their max morning height, or even rounds up to the nearest inch. But this is nuts.
I’ve noticed height inflation is currently 1.5 inches. Most common inflations imo:
5”6.5 guys claiming 5”8 - extremely common
5”7.5 guys claiming 5”9 - extremely common
5”8.5 guys claiming 5”10 - MOST common
5”9.5 guys claiming 5”11 - very common
5”10.5 guys claiming 6”0 - extremely common
5”11.5 guys claiming 6”1 - extremely common
6”0.5 guys claiming 6”2 - less common (but a lot of guys height claims this)
6”1.5 guys claiming 6”3 - less common but happens
6”3 and above I’ve noticed people are more honest, but you do get the odd idiot
Now I don’t mind if someone claims their max morning height, or even rounds up to the nearest inch. But this is nuts.
Charline said on 7/May/23
Do you guys agree that 5'3 to 5'4 (160-163cm) women look quite hot, considering they don't look childish anymore as 5'1-5'2 (155-159cm) women do. But they look womanly and amazingly feminine. I am so angry with people who consider both 5'1, 5'2 and 5'3,5'4 categories as short when they're clearly not the same. 5'3 and 5'4 women are simply Goddesses on the Earth.
Do you guys agree that 5'3 to 5'4 (160-163cm) women look quite hot, considering they don't look childish anymore as 5'1-5'2 (155-159cm) women do. But they look womanly and amazingly feminine. I am so angry with people who consider both 5'1, 5'2 and 5'3,5'4 categories as short when they're clearly not the same. 5'3 and 5'4 women are simply Goddesses on the Earth.
Caleb 178.8cm said on 7/May/23
Click Here
Bob Wegner, tallest man in America, says that he's 7'8.5" or 235cm, but the ruler behind him in the linked photo indicates that he doesn't even reach that height in shoes. The whole ruler can be seen in the photo and it looks accurate to me. What do you guys think about his height?
Click Here
Bob Wegner, tallest man in America, says that he's 7'8.5" or 235cm, but the ruler behind him in the linked photo indicates that he doesn't even reach that height in shoes. The whole ruler can be seen in the photo and it looks accurate to me. What do you guys think about his height?
rlheight5'11 said on 7/May/23
@Sandy cowell
You haven't responded to my other comment then again I should have posted it on a different page.
@Sandy cowell
You haven't responded to my other comment then again I should have posted it on a different page.
adrianjacobs said on 7/May/23
@Jdubbz
Since you completely ignored the links I commented, ask Rob what the average eye level is of a guy who is close to 2m.
I don't even understand where you got your idea from and why you're so stubborn about it.
@Jdubbz
Since you completely ignored the links I commented, ask Rob what the average eye level is of a guy who is close to 2m.
I don't even understand where you got your idea from and why you're so stubborn about it.
adrianjacobs said on 7/May/23
@5'10.25
Ahah, yes, totally more 5'8 men than 6'3 men. I'm not even going to bother arguing with you.
@5'10.25
Ahah, yes, totally more 5'8 men than 6'3 men. I'm not even going to bother arguing with you.
Progking185 said on 7/May/23
@Mapper6'1 yeah it is, I consider you a strong 6'1 if then your 6'1.25/186 during the day. You can say your 6'1 or just over it.
@Mapper6'1 yeah it is, I consider you a strong 6'1 if then your 6'1.25/186 during the day. You can say your 6'1 or just over it.
5'10.25" said on 7/May/23
@rlheight5'11 Yeah my dad is a solid 5'11" or almost an inch taller than me (we look basically the same height) and he looks 70% of the time average and 30% tallish (similar to 6'0" guys). 5'11" to 6'1" range is a gray zone between tall and average and 6'2"+ is solid tall. 5-9.5"-5'10" has the most neutral look at least in Europe.
@rlheight5'11 Yeah my dad is a solid 5'11" or almost an inch taller than me (we look basically the same height) and he looks 70% of the time average and 30% tallish (similar to 6'0" guys). 5'11" to 6'1" range is a gray zone between tall and average and 6'2"+ is solid tall. 5-9.5"-5'10" has the most neutral look at least in Europe.
George_89 said on 7/May/23
I see the Swedish height debate is still lingering haha...
I'll give my two pence. I seriously think @adrianjacobs is suffering from some kind of heightism or delusion. I'm really not trying to be horrible Adrian if you read this. I've just met a fair few Swedish people and studied with them when I was living on London. Yes they're high average range for UK standards. Didn't you say 5ft8 is the average for a Swedish woman? Adrian that is utter nonsense. Its max 5ft6. I can attest to this by the young Swedish women I've studied with. Maybe the young guys were 181cm range. Most guys are taller than you in Sweden and you're 184.5cm at a low? Again I think that is complete nonsense.
Try and even your view throughout the day and take note of so called shorter folk. You might start to be surprised...as you say no guys are 5ft8 in Sweden...massive lol.
I see the Swedish height debate is still lingering haha...
I'll give my two pence. I seriously think @adrianjacobs is suffering from some kind of heightism or delusion. I'm really not trying to be horrible Adrian if you read this. I've just met a fair few Swedish people and studied with them when I was living on London. Yes they're high average range for UK standards. Didn't you say 5ft8 is the average for a Swedish woman? Adrian that is utter nonsense. Its max 5ft6. I can attest to this by the young Swedish women I've studied with. Maybe the young guys were 181cm range. Most guys are taller than you in Sweden and you're 184.5cm at a low? Again I think that is complete nonsense.
Try and even your view throughout the day and take note of so called shorter folk. You might start to be surprised...as you say no guys are 5ft8 in Sweden...massive lol.
5'10.25" said on 7/May/23
@adrianjacobs or more 5'4"-5'8" women, they have a narrower SD.
@adrianjacobs or more 5'4"-5'8" women, they have a narrower SD.
5'10.25" said on 7/May/23
@adrianjacobs No, but I've met plety of swedish people, at least around 30. Funny how my experiences regarding their height correlates with their measured height in studies as well. Most men are 5'8"-6'2", most women 5'3"-5'9".
@adrianjacobs No, but I've met plety of swedish people, at least around 30. Funny how my experiences regarding their height correlates with their measured height in studies as well. Most men are 5'8"-6'2", most women 5'3"-5'9".
Jdubbz said on 7/May/23
Finalbeta said on 6/May/23
Is 198 cm at a low enough to be in the 99.9 percentile of adult young men in the US?
Not quite. 198cm is around 1/750 I think. 99.9th percentile is right around my height of 199cm.
Finalbeta said on 6/May/23
Is 198 cm at a low enough to be in the 99.9 percentile of adult young men in the US?
Not quite. 198cm is around 1/750 I think. 99.9th percentile is right around my height of 199cm.
Jdubbz said on 7/May/23
@adrianjacobs:
I agree, a high eye level is nothing to be insecure about. It's actually a good thing in a way. I'd be happy if I had a high eye level, but I don't. Again, head size and eye level don't scale directly with height. You can't just say 199/183 x 12cm = the average eye level for a 199cm guy. It doesn't work that way.
Also, even if I do have a relatively high eye level for my height, it's still low in general. About a quarter inch lower than the average guy's. Someone who actually has a high eye level is a guy like Alex 6'0 with a 4.25" eye level.
@adrianjacobs:
I agree, a high eye level is nothing to be insecure about. It's actually a good thing in a way. I'd be happy if I had a high eye level, but I don't. Again, head size and eye level don't scale directly with height. You can't just say 199/183 x 12cm = the average eye level for a 199cm guy. It doesn't work that way.
Also, even if I do have a relatively high eye level for my height, it's still low in general. About a quarter inch lower than the average guy's. Someone who actually has a high eye level is a guy like Alex 6'0 with a 4.25" eye level.
Mapperd said on 7/May/23
I measured 185.5 at night after 10km walk. Is it my extreme low? What height should I claim?
I measured 185.5 at night after 10km walk. Is it my extreme low? What height should I claim?
Finalbeta said on 6/May/23
Is 198 cm at a low enough to be in the 99.9 percentile of adult young men in the US?
Is 198 cm at a low enough to be in the 99.9 percentile of adult young men in the US?
Poster said on 6/May/23
Height Chart For White American Women In Their Twenties In The Midwest:
4'10: anomalous
4'11: extremely short
5'0: very short
5'1: noticeably short
5'2: short
5'3: somewhat short
5'4 below average
5'5: average
5'6: above average
5'7: somewhat tall
5'8: tall
5'9: noticeably tall
5'10: very tall
5'11: extremely tall
6'0: anomalous
Height Chart For White American Women In Their Twenties In The Midwest:
4'10: anomalous
4'11: extremely short
5'0: very short
5'1: noticeably short
5'2: short
5'3: somewhat short
5'4 below average
5'5: average
5'6: above average
5'7: somewhat tall
5'8: tall
5'9: noticeably tall
5'10: very tall
5'11: extremely tall
6'0: anomalous
FiveNine said on 6/May/23
Cool … At 14 years old I was about 6 inches shorter than 5’9” …
Average height in Sweden is close to 6’3” … and …
Going to Sweden would be reminiscent of being a teenager again …
What a cool feeling … Being a half-foot shorter than average …
Kinda like Time-Travel and who in the hell needs a DeLorean …
🏎️🏎️🏎️ … 🏎️🏎️🏎️ …🏎️🏎️🏎️
Cool … At 14 years old I was about 6 inches shorter than 5’9” …
Average height in Sweden is close to 6’3” … and …
Going to Sweden would be reminiscent of being a teenager again …
What a cool feeling … Being a half-foot shorter than average …
Kinda like Time-Travel and who in the hell needs a DeLorean …
🏎️🏎️🏎️ … 🏎️🏎️🏎️ …🏎️🏎️🏎️
adrianjacobs said on 6/May/23
@5'10.25
Are you from Sweden?
@5'10.25
Are you from Sweden?
adrianjacobs said on 6/May/23
@Kevin
I'm about 184.5cm at a low and have an eye level of 172 or just under, and yes, most men where I live are certainly taller than me.
@Kevin
I'm about 184.5cm at a low and have an eye level of 172 or just under, and yes, most men where I live are certainly taller than me.
adrianjacobs said on 6/May/23
@Jdubbz
If you check out Rob's page about eye level, Click Here, someone asks him what his height is if his eye level is 178.5cm, and he says about 191-192 range.
Also, if you check out Rob's YouTube video about eye level and sort the comments by new, someone asks what the eye level of a 6ft person is, and he says roughly 5'7.25
The average eye level of a person who's nearly two meters tall is certainly not less than five inches. I don't see why you are insecure about it, it's worse to have a low eye level like me, in my opinion.
@Jdubbz
If you check out Rob's page about eye level, Click Here, someone asks him what his height is if his eye level is 178.5cm, and he says about 191-192 range.
Also, if you check out Rob's YouTube video about eye level and sort the comments by new, someone asks what the eye level of a 6ft person is, and he says roughly 5'7.25
The average eye level of a person who's nearly two meters tall is certainly not less than five inches. I don't see why you are insecure about it, it's worse to have a low eye level like me, in my opinion.
adrianjacobs said on 6/May/23
@Okidoki
If you thought I was 182-183cm, is there any reason to think you are not downgrading others?
@Okidoki
If you thought I was 182-183cm, is there any reason to think you are not downgrading others?
5'10.25" said on 6/May/23
@pov ok i see your point.
@pov ok i see your point.
rlheight5'11 said on 6/May/23
@5'10.25"
Sometimes I feel between average and tall and I'm 5'11 which is nice because I like blending in at times.
@5'10.25"
Sometimes I feel between average and tall and I'm 5'11 which is nice because I like blending in at times.
pov said on 6/May/23
@5'10.25" yeah the key difference is they are self report studies, there are also self measured studies which put their overall average from 183.7-183.9cm. More studies put them closer to 183-184cm range, as opposed to 181cm which are more reports. In addition to this, the highest ethnic populations in the netherlands are morrocans and turkish, who can contribute to a lower average. I can assure you an ethnic dutch man averages around the 184cm mark (between 183.7-183.9). I have no reason to lie, the dutch have no reason to lie, and the vast majority of studies back this, yet you literally won’t accept this for some reason. The reason I became interested in height in the first place is because I noticed how tall the dutch were from living there, I was very observant of their height. We can agree young dutch average 183cm (90’s and after), but the 80’s and 70’s 60’s cohort’s all had higher averages. In most cases populations are getting taller, in the case of the dutch, think they are slowly converting to the european average, due to westernisation, diets are similar amongst the west now. But for now, they are still around the 184cm mark on average.
@5'10.25" yeah the key difference is they are self report studies, there are also self measured studies which put their overall average from 183.7-183.9cm. More studies put them closer to 183-184cm range, as opposed to 181cm which are more reports. In addition to this, the highest ethnic populations in the netherlands are morrocans and turkish, who can contribute to a lower average. I can assure you an ethnic dutch man averages around the 184cm mark (between 183.7-183.9). I have no reason to lie, the dutch have no reason to lie, and the vast majority of studies back this, yet you literally won’t accept this for some reason. The reason I became interested in height in the first place is because I noticed how tall the dutch were from living there, I was very observant of their height. We can agree young dutch average 183cm (90’s and after), but the 80’s and 70’s 60’s cohort’s all had higher averages. In most cases populations are getting taller, in the case of the dutch, think they are slowly converting to the european average, due to westernisation, diets are similar amongst the west now. But for now, they are still around the 184cm mark on average.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/May/23
It was lovely to see that Joan Armatrading attended the Coronation and was interviewed afterwards. Please, Rob, could she have a page? I found 154cm for her. She brings back so many happy memories. The lady is 72.
It was lovely to see that Joan Armatrading attended the Coronation and was interviewed afterwards. Please, Rob, could she have a page? I found 154cm for her. She brings back so many happy memories. The lady is 72.
Henrik said on 6/May/23
Here is one study which states that Swedes have steadily grown taller by 6mm per decade:
Click Here
^^ So if assuming that is a trend which continues to this day then one could assume that young Swedes are now 9mm taller than the 181.5cm 15 years ago, meaning 182.4cm.
This study states that Germans and other Northern Europeans have slowed down their growth compared to in the past and reached their potential peak height at this point:
Click Here
Here is one study which states that Swedes have steadily grown taller by 6mm per decade:
Click Here
^^ So if assuming that is a trend which continues to this day then one could assume that young Swedes are now 9mm taller than the 181.5cm 15 years ago, meaning 182.4cm.
This study states that Germans and other Northern Europeans have slowed down their growth compared to in the past and reached their potential peak height at this point:
Click Here
K_916 said on 6/May/23
@EVERYONE , but out of curiosity why do you all discuss height is it an interest ? A hobby ? Or does it stem from a fascination of the topic ? I’m just wondering , don’t you ever get tired of discussing height all the time ? Or is it a passion? Feel free to answer this , I’m not a regular visitor and I’ll probably never come back after this post , but I respect the community u guys have built and hope u keep interacting with each other it’s great to see honestly . Thanks for reading
@EVERYONE , but out of curiosity why do you all discuss height is it an interest ? A hobby ? Or does it stem from a fascination of the topic ? I’m just wondering , don’t you ever get tired of discussing height all the time ? Or is it a passion? Feel free to answer this , I’m not a regular visitor and I’ll probably never come back after this post , but I respect the community u guys have built and hope u keep interacting with each other it’s great to see honestly . Thanks for reading
Okidoki said on 6/May/23
@Bobby Yes and ofcourse, it's unrealistic that women will most often date shorter men, it was just a hypothetical.
In couples for example with a 5'10 woman and a 5'6 man, the sons will in the clear majority of cases be taller than the mother, that shows how much of an impact the mothers height has.
But yes, in couples where they are a similar height, an average height man and a tall woman for example, the chances that the son will be even taller will increase though.
And i am only talking about height though. Interms of mannerisms, physical look and behaviour, son's tend to be more similar to their fathers and sometimes to their mothers, grandfathers, uncles or aunts etc.
@5'10.25" He has said before that he wants proof on stats that are not from 15 years ago, but that are recent or relatively recent.
Well, the ncd height data, which is based on national surveys and studies and not selfreported heights, have an average of around 180.5 for Swedish 19 year old men.
I have also seen some studies from around 2017, 2018 etc with averages of between 181-182 cm too though, if i remember correctly.
@Bobby Yes and ofcourse, it's unrealistic that women will most often date shorter men, it was just a hypothetical.
In couples for example with a 5'10 woman and a 5'6 man, the sons will in the clear majority of cases be taller than the mother, that shows how much of an impact the mothers height has.
But yes, in couples where they are a similar height, an average height man and a tall woman for example, the chances that the son will be even taller will increase though.
And i am only talking about height though. Interms of mannerisms, physical look and behaviour, son's tend to be more similar to their fathers and sometimes to their mothers, grandfathers, uncles or aunts etc.
@5'10.25" He has said before that he wants proof on stats that are not from 15 years ago, but that are recent or relatively recent.
Well, the ncd height data, which is based on national surveys and studies and not selfreported heights, have an average of around 180.5 for Swedish 19 year old men.
I have also seen some studies from around 2017, 2018 etc with averages of between 181-182 cm too though, if i remember correctly.
James B 172cm said on 6/May/23
Bobby said on 5/May/23
@James B 5ft8
I think for your case, your mother's small stature impacted your height quite a bit because your father was nearly 5'11 in his prime. You should have been at least 5'11 given your father's height, so I think you inherited some of your mother's genetic height as well.
Maybe but i could have been taller if i slept better growing up. I have always been a terrible sleeper and during your sleep is when growth hormone is released.
Bobby said on 5/May/23
@James B 5ft8
I think for your case, your mother's small stature impacted your height quite a bit because your father was nearly 5'11 in his prime. You should have been at least 5'11 given your father's height, so I think you inherited some of your mother's genetic height as well.
Maybe but i could have been taller if i slept better growing up. I have always been a terrible sleeper and during your sleep is when growth hormone is released.
Jdubbz said on 6/May/23
Give it a month and AdrianJacobs is going to start saying that 6'6 is "barely above average" in Sweden.
Give it a month and AdrianJacobs is going to start saying that 6'6 is "barely above average" in Sweden.
Jdubbz said on 6/May/23
@Charline
I can try. Assuming we're talking about American women:
4'7 = most likely dwarfism
4'7 - 4'9 = extremely short
4'9 - 4'11 = very short
4'11 - 5'2 = short
5'2 - 5'3.5 = below average
5'3.5 - 5'5 = average range
5'5 - 5'6.5 = above average
5'6.5 - 5'8 = tallish
5'8 - 5'10.5 = tall
5'10.5 - 6'1 = very tall
6'1 - 6'4 = extremely tall
6'4 - 6'7 = super tall
6'7+ = gigantic
For me, the perfect female height is 5'2. I'm biased though, I've always loved the shorties.
@Charline
I can try. Assuming we're talking about American women:
4'7 = most likely dwarfism
4'7 - 4'9 = extremely short
4'9 - 4'11 = very short
4'11 - 5'2 = short
5'2 - 5'3.5 = below average
5'3.5 - 5'5 = average range
5'5 - 5'6.5 = above average
5'6.5 - 5'8 = tallish
5'8 - 5'10.5 = tall
5'10.5 - 6'1 = very tall
6'1 - 6'4 = extremely tall
6'4 - 6'7 = super tall
6'7+ = gigantic
For me, the perfect female height is 5'2. I'm biased though, I've always loved the shorties.
Kevin said on 5/May/23
@adrianjacobs
Man... I must be a midget at 6'0 if you're 6'1 and rarely see guys shorter than you.
@adrianjacobs
Man... I must be a midget at 6'0 if you're 6'1 and rarely see guys shorter than you.
Caleb 178.8cm said on 5/May/23
Click Here
Click Here
Found research done on height of people in Montenegro and Albania. Two women in the Montenegro study measured 197.7cm and 193.4cm. According to the scatter diagram in the Albania study, six of the 179 women who participated in the research measured over 190cm, with one measuring 200cm! 😲
Click Here
Click Here
Found research done on height of people in Montenegro and Albania. Two women in the Montenegro study measured 197.7cm and 193.4cm. According to the scatter diagram in the Albania study, six of the 179 women who participated in the research measured over 190cm, with one measuring 200cm! 😲
5'10.25" said on 5/May/23
@pov how it is downgrading if we disagree by 1-2 cm at most. I'd say it's possible that Dutch are anything overall 181 to 183 cm range. There is a self report study that puts them at 183 cm range, but also one that puts them at 181 cm. I don't know why you chose to ignore the 2nd one. Anyway, god bless.
@pov how it is downgrading if we disagree by 1-2 cm at most. I'd say it's possible that Dutch are anything overall 181 to 183 cm range. There is a self report study that puts them at 183 cm range, but also one that puts them at 181 cm. I don't know why you chose to ignore the 2nd one. Anyway, god bless.
Charline said on 5/May/23
Hi 👋 everyone! Can you try to make a height chart about women, what do you consider short, medium, tall? And what the feminine perfect height is in your opinion?I've seen many height charts here made from many of you about men, but I think it would be even funnier and entertaining to do a list for female gender also.
Hi 👋 everyone! Can you try to make a height chart about women, what do you consider short, medium, tall? And what the feminine perfect height is in your opinion?I've seen many height charts here made from many of you about men, but I think it would be even funnier and entertaining to do a list for female gender also.
Alex 6'0 said on 5/May/23
My eye level is 4.25. Slightly below average
My eye level is 4.25. Slightly below average
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
QM6'1.75"QM said on 5/May/23
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
My eye level is between 175-175.5cms at solid 187cms, so 11.75cms is very possible, btw.
Yours is 12.5cms probably)
Nah, mine is similar to yours. Around 11.9cm.
QM6'1.75"QM said on 5/May/23
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
My eye level is between 175-175.5cms at solid 187cms, so 11.75cms is very possible, btw.
Yours is 12.5cms probably)
Nah, mine is similar to yours. Around 11.9cm.
Bobby said on 5/May/23
@James B 5ft8
I think for your case, your mother's small stature impacted your height quite a bit because your father was nearly 5'11 in his prime. You should have been at least 5'11 given your father's height, so I think you inherited some of your mother's genetic height as well.
@Okidoki
Well, yes, but that's indicating that women only marry and copulate with shorter-than-average men. If the men were average height or taller, then I guarantee their offspring would be at least average height.
@James B 5ft8
I think for your case, your mother's small stature impacted your height quite a bit because your father was nearly 5'11 in his prime. You should have been at least 5'11 given your father's height, so I think you inherited some of your mother's genetic height as well.
@Okidoki
Well, yes, but that's indicating that women only marry and copulate with shorter-than-average men. If the men were average height or taller, then I guarantee their offspring would be at least average height.
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
adrianjacobs
No I'm not going to accept that, because you have no idea how proportions work. Head size does NOT scale proportionally with height. That's why taller people have different proportions than shorter people and look taller standing on their own.
Taller people have smaller heads relative to their height than shorter or average height people, so eye level doesn't necessarily increase proportionally.
Accept that my high level is high? I mean the average for my height could be more like 4.8" than 4.7", so if that's "high" then ok.
Also, lol @ 6'3.5 being closer to average in Sweden than your height. If you weren't trolling before, you definitely are now.
adrianjacobs
No I'm not going to accept that, because you have no idea how proportions work. Head size does NOT scale proportionally with height. That's why taller people have different proportions than shorter people and look taller standing on their own.
Taller people have smaller heads relative to their height than shorter or average height people, so eye level doesn't necessarily increase proportionally.
Accept that my high level is high? I mean the average for my height could be more like 4.8" than 4.7", so if that's "high" then ok.
Also, lol @ 6'3.5 being closer to average in Sweden than your height. If you weren't trolling before, you definitely are now.
Original said on 5/May/23
iMO above average starts at 181cm, tall starts at 185cm, very tall around 192cm, extremely tall about 199cm and giant about 206cm. If the average at a low is ~178cm for people in 20 and 30s.
iMO above average starts at 181cm, tall starts at 185cm, very tall around 192cm, extremely tall about 199cm and giant about 206cm. If the average at a low is ~178cm for people in 20 and 30s.
Okidoki said on 5/May/23
@Alex 6'0 I kinda agree with you. I guess it depends a bit on the definition of giant, but in the 6'10-6'11 range is where you can start debating it. 7'-7'2 are pretty extraordinarily tall heights, i have heard there are just a couple of thousands of them in the world too though.
@Alex 6'0 I kinda agree with you. I guess it depends a bit on the definition of giant, but in the 6'10-6'11 range is where you can start debating it. 7'-7'2 are pretty extraordinarily tall heights, i have heard there are just a couple of thousands of them in the world too though.
Okidoki said on 5/May/23
@5'10.25 According to stats, 177-181 cm is the most typical range for young men in Western countries now. 5'10 was the most common, with 5'11 in second place and 5'9.5 range in 3rd place. Average worldwide height 2022-2023 or Ncd height data for example.
@5'10.25 According to stats, 177-181 cm is the most typical range for young men in Western countries now. 5'10 was the most common, with 5'11 in second place and 5'9.5 range in 3rd place. Average worldwide height 2022-2023 or Ncd height data for example.
Okidoki said on 5/May/23
@adrianjacobs No worries man. Are you going to find us a few 6'2-6'3 women in Stockholm, 2 for a night? :P
There seems to be a handful to choose from in Stockholm, i am to get some beers.
@adrianjacobs No worries man. Are you going to find us a few 6'2-6'3 women in Stockholm, 2 for a night? :P
There seems to be a handful to choose from in Stockholm, i am to get some beers.
Rockaway said on 5/May/23
6’3.5” about average in height — Rob, you need to step in and put an end to this trolling.
6’3.5” about average in height — Rob, you need to step in and put an end to this trolling.
Rockaway said on 5/May/23
@adrian your reply was completely irrelevant from my point but it’s clear you’re a troll and are incapable of having a coherent debate. Rob, you should seriously consider banning people who spread misinformation, it isn’t healthy or beneficial for your website.
@adrian your reply was completely irrelevant from my point but it’s clear you’re a troll and are incapable of having a coherent debate. Rob, you should seriously consider banning people who spread misinformation, it isn’t healthy or beneficial for your website.
rlheight5'11 said on 5/May/23
@Poster
Rob also has a personal life.
@Poster
Rob also has a personal life.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/May/23
@Alex 6'0
6'9 is start of giant I think. My old college mate was this height and looked incredibly tall, constantly hitting on his head every day on things.
@Alex 6'0
6'9 is start of giant I think. My old college mate was this height and looked incredibly tall, constantly hitting on his head every day on things.
rlheight5'11 said on 5/May/23
@Sandy Cowell
Have you seen that nkd edcation programme? I know it's a strange question. They aired the show at 8pmish the other night 🤣
@Sandy Cowell
Have you seen that nkd edcation programme? I know it's a strange question. They aired the show at 8pmish the other night 🤣
adrianjacobs said on 5/May/23
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
You have to understand that sometimes, those measured averages are bullsh*t and you have use your eyes and look around you to see how tall people are in real life, and not on paper.
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
You have to understand that sometimes, those measured averages are bullsh*t and you have use your eyes and look around you to see how tall people are in real life, and not on paper.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/May/23
@adrianjacobs
Ok cool you are a troll. Even in the dinaric alps, tallest place in the world, 6'3.5 is still 2.5inches above average.
@adrianjacobs
Ok cool you are a troll. Even in the dinaric alps, tallest place in the world, 6'3.5 is still 2.5inches above average.
Alex 6'0 said on 5/May/23
Interested YouTube video. 6'6 guy very tall then near 7'1 guy dont look so tall. I don't know if thats 7 inches but that guy did look 7'1 walking
Interested YouTube video. 6'6 guy very tall then near 7'1 guy dont look so tall. I don't know if thats 7 inches but that guy did look 7'1 walking
Alex 6'0 said on 5/May/23
Giant should be someone who towers over guys already very tall 6'4-6'6. A foot over average man is 6'9 range. That could be the start of a giant. I personally would say 6'10-6'11 is where a giant starts but some would say 7'0 plus.
Giant should be someone who towers over guys already very tall 6'4-6'6. A foot over average man is 6'9 range. That could be the start of a giant. I personally would say 6'10-6'11 is where a giant starts but some would say 7'0 plus.
QM6'1.75"QM said on 5/May/23
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
My eye level is between 175-175.5cms at solid 187cms, so 11.75cms is very possible, btw.
Yours is 12.5cms probably)
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
My eye level is between 175-175.5cms at solid 187cms, so 11.75cms is very possible, btw.
Yours is 12.5cms probably)
pov said on 5/May/23
@adrianjacobs ignore him, @5”10.25 is a troll, he likes downgrading other countries heights, refuses to acknowledge legitimate studies, he’s in a state of delusion. He makes up opinions through one off comments people have made as opposed to reality. He even said The Netherlands were average in Europe lol, I can’t take this guy seriously.
@adrianjacobs ignore him, @5”10.25 is a troll, he likes downgrading other countries heights, refuses to acknowledge legitimate studies, he’s in a state of delusion. He makes up opinions through one off comments people have made as opposed to reality. He even said The Netherlands were average in Europe lol, I can’t take this guy seriously.
adrianjacobs said on 5/May/23
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
Oh boy, I wish. I have a friend who is 192cm and he often looks closer to average than I do, imo.
My mom described him as "about average in height" (without knowing exactly how tall he is)
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
Oh boy, I wish. I have a friend who is 192cm and he often looks closer to average than I do, imo.
My mom described him as "about average in height" (without knowing exactly how tall he is)
Henrik said on 5/May/23
I've said in the past that I do not believe zoomers are any taller than millennials. If anything, I suspect zoomers could be shorter because they been put on more medication during their upbringing (against things like ADHD and probably antidepressants etc). That can possibly have a stunting effect on growth methinks.
I've said in the past that I do not believe zoomers are any taller than millennials. If anything, I suspect zoomers could be shorter because they been put on more medication during their upbringing (against things like ADHD and probably antidepressants etc). That can possibly have a stunting effect on growth methinks.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/May/23
Is Adrian 6'4 and claims he doesn't feel tall? That's mental lol
Is Adrian 6'4 and claims he doesn't feel tall? That's mental lol
adrianjacobs said on 5/May/23
@5'10.25
I'm going to try to find a way to film myself in a crowd so we can settle this.
@5'10.25
I'm going to try to find a way to film myself in a crowd so we can settle this.
adrianjacobs said on 5/May/23
@Jdubbz
Rob has literally said that it's 4.5 inches for all men, and about 4.75 (12cm) inches for 6ft men.
12cm/183cm≈0.0656
0.0656x190cm≈12.46cm
0.0656x200cm≈13.1cm
Are you going to accept that your eye level is high and not average now?
@Jdubbz
Rob has literally said that it's 4.5 inches for all men, and about 4.75 (12cm) inches for 6ft men.
12cm/183cm≈0.0656
0.0656x190cm≈12.46cm
0.0656x200cm≈13.1cm
Are you going to accept that your eye level is high and not average now?
adrianjacobs said on 5/May/23
@5'10.25
180-181cm average in Sweden?
Where did you get those numbers?
You are to send me a link, and no estimations of your own. Measured within the last 15 years.
@5'10.25
180-181cm average in Sweden?
Where did you get those numbers?
You are to send me a link, and no estimations of your own. Measured within the last 15 years.
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@Juddbz For eye level I'd say 160-169 cm guys 10 cm, 170-189 cm guys 11 cm , 190 cm + guys 12 cm. Overral 11 cm.
I think it's more of a half cm difference between each category, but you could be right. 10cm eye level just seems really small even for a 5'4 guy. Average is 4.5"/11.43cm for dudes IIRC.
5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@Juddbz For eye level I'd say 160-169 cm guys 10 cm, 170-189 cm guys 11 cm , 190 cm + guys 12 cm. Overral 11 cm.
I think it's more of a half cm difference between each category, but you could be right. 10cm eye level just seems really small even for a 5'4 guy. Average is 4.5"/11.43cm for dudes IIRC.
Jdubbz said on 5/May/23
adrianposter said on 4/May/23
look at a youtuber named blake bachert who claims 6’6 next to a 7’1 guy on video it’s actually pretty crazy skip to 8:21 on the video
I've been there before. Seeing a dude over half a foot taller than you when you're already way over 99th percentile in your country is...jarring. That's why it's hard for me to accept that some consider 200 - 205 cm tall people to be giants. There are wayyyyy taller dudes out there, even if they are rare. Giant is when you make really tall guys feel small, like in the video you linked.
adrianposter said on 4/May/23
look at a youtuber named blake bachert who claims 6’6 next to a 7’1 guy on video it’s actually pretty crazy skip to 8:21 on the video
I've been there before. Seeing a dude over half a foot taller than you when you're already way over 99th percentile in your country is...jarring. That's why it's hard for me to accept that some consider 200 - 205 cm tall people to be giants. There are wayyyyy taller dudes out there, even if they are rare. Giant is when you make really tall guys feel small, like in the video you linked.
adrianposter said on 4/May/23
look at a youtuber named blake bachert who claims 6’6 next to a 7’1 guy on video it’s actually pretty crazy skip to 8:21 on the video
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look at a youtuber named blake bachert who claims 6’6 next to a 7’1 guy on video it’s actually pretty crazy skip to 8:21 on the video
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5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@Juddbz For eye level I'd say 160-169 cm guys 10 cm, 170-189 cm guys 11 cm , 190 cm + guys 12 cm. Overral 11 cm.
@Juddbz For eye level I'd say 160-169 cm guys 10 cm, 170-189 cm guys 11 cm , 190 cm + guys 12 cm. Overral 11 cm.
5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@adrianjacobs I think in a country with a 5'6"/167-168 cm female average such as Sweden (for men it's 180-181 cm) it is still common to see even women at 185-188 cm, since it is still 98th-99th percentile and in large crowds walking down the street you can see them a couple daily. 190 cm + is where it is truly rare for scandinavian women.
@adrianjacobs I think in a country with a 5'6"/167-168 cm female average such as Sweden (for men it's 180-181 cm) it is still common to see even women at 185-188 cm, since it is still 98th-99th percentile and in large crowds walking down the street you can see them a couple daily. 190 cm + is where it is truly rare for scandinavian women.
5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@adrianjacobs
Funny you say that since I've met in 2018 two ethnic swedish male erasmus student who were a few inches shorter than me or around 167-170 cm at best. I also met an ethnic swedish guy through work (was visiting) who was 195 cm. What I'm trying to say there is a big variation in height and you probably don't even notice short guys.
@adrianjacobs
Funny you say that since I've met in 2018 two ethnic swedish male erasmus student who were a few inches shorter than me or around 167-170 cm at best. I also met an ethnic swedish guy through work (was visiting) who was 195 cm. What I'm trying to say there is a big variation in height and you probably don't even notice short guys.
5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@Okidoki I'd say most European countries average in the 178 cm range, 176-177 cm and 179-180 cm is also quite common.
@Okidoki I'd say most European countries average in the 178 cm range, 176-177 cm and 179-180 cm is also quite common.
adrianjacobs said on 4/May/23
@Rockaway
Something I've noticed is that a lot of Americans on the internet complain and whine all the time about living in America. As a person from Sweden, I think that's bull. To me, it seems like a great country to live in, and everything I hear on the internet from people who ACTUALLY live there is just lies.
@Rockaway
Something I've noticed is that a lot of Americans on the internet complain and whine all the time about living in America. As a person from Sweden, I think that's bull. To me, it seems like a great country to live in, and everything I hear on the internet from people who ACTUALLY live there is just lies.
Finalbeta said on 4/May/23
By population I initially meant population of adult males, so being in the 99.9 percentile related to that.
By population I initially meant population of adult males, so being in the 99.9 percentile related to that.
Finalbeta said on 4/May/23
@Jdubbz
I remember when I was very young I saw a man I would be looking at the end of his neck and had to raise my head to look him in the eyes, he felt gigantic to me, he was probably around 7-8 inches taller than me, then I grew up and reached (and slightly surpassed) that height.
I think as long as you are around 8-9 inches taller than the average many people will get quite impressed to see you, and you will eventually be the tallest being they see in days unless they travel a lot.
I think as long as you are taller than 99.9% of the population you start to get quite rare and that's usually achieved around 20+cm taller than the average.
Of course that's not quite technically giant, because in a population of 1 million, you still get a few hundreds people with that 99.9 percentile.
@Jdubbz
I remember when I was very young I saw a man I would be looking at the end of his neck and had to raise my head to look him in the eyes, he felt gigantic to me, he was probably around 7-8 inches taller than me, then I grew up and reached (and slightly surpassed) that height.
I think as long as you are around 8-9 inches taller than the average many people will get quite impressed to see you, and you will eventually be the tallest being they see in days unless they travel a lot.
I think as long as you are taller than 99.9% of the population you start to get quite rare and that's usually achieved around 20+cm taller than the average.
Of course that's not quite technically giant, because in a population of 1 million, you still get a few hundreds people with that 99.9 percentile.
Rockaway said on 4/May/23
@adrian How do you know Antarctica is cold if you’ve never been? Lol seriously, is it that hard for you to grasp that people can see publicly shared data on height without needing to actually go to a country? Here you go again embarrassing yourself saying 6’4 is just above average. You seriously need to get help if you are that delusional about height.
@adrian How do you know Antarctica is cold if you’ve never been? Lol seriously, is it that hard for you to grasp that people can see publicly shared data on height without needing to actually go to a country? Here you go again embarrassing yourself saying 6’4 is just above average. You seriously need to get help if you are that delusional about height.
adrianjacobs said on 4/May/23
@Okidoki
And yet, in some magical way, you're like "nooo way the average is taller than 6ft" but 5'8 for women, yes.
@Okidoki
And yet, in some magical way, you're like "nooo way the average is taller than 6ft" but 5'8 for women, yes.
Jdubbz said on 4/May/23
@Finalbeta:
I get what you mean, but I still think 20cm over average is too low a bar for that reaction. 6’5-6’6 guys in the US are very tall and are treated as such, but leaving a gigantic impression is something else IMO.
That’s the type of impression where you’d remember an encounter solely based off a person’s height, like “damn that’s the biggest dude I’ve seen all year”. To me that would be 30cm over average, so roughly 6’9-10 in the US and 6’9/205cm in a country with a 175cm average.
You could make the case for 25cm above average, so 2m+, but personally I lean more towards 30cm. 20cm is between very tall and extremely tall IMO.
@Finalbeta:
I get what you mean, but I still think 20cm over average is too low a bar for that reaction. 6’5-6’6 guys in the US are very tall and are treated as such, but leaving a gigantic impression is something else IMO.
That’s the type of impression where you’d remember an encounter solely based off a person’s height, like “damn that’s the biggest dude I’ve seen all year”. To me that would be 30cm over average, so roughly 6’9-10 in the US and 6’9/205cm in a country with a 175cm average.
You could make the case for 25cm above average, so 2m+, but personally I lean more towards 30cm. 20cm is between very tall and extremely tall IMO.
Jdubbz said on 4/May/23
adrianjacobs
No way dude, the average guy doesn’t have an eye level just 2mm shy of 5” until you get to my height at least. More likely over 2m. 12cm is way more common for a 190+ guy.
adrianjacobs
No way dude, the average guy doesn’t have an eye level just 2mm shy of 5” until you get to my height at least. More likely over 2m. 12cm is way more common for a 190+ guy.
Okidoki said on 4/May/23
@Jdubbz Thank you, heheh. I enjoy discussing with you and other guys.
I prefer being honest and objective.
I see many people debunk the average height and for example sometimes being kinda below it, while i don't care about it, i have my own subjective opinions, but i like to stay factual and say the truth though.
@adrianjacobs Yes, i know. No statistical data say that the average is near 173 cm in any country though.
@Jdubbz Thank you, heheh. I enjoy discussing with you and other guys.
I prefer being honest and objective.
I see many people debunk the average height and for example sometimes being kinda below it, while i don't care about it, i have my own subjective opinions, but i like to stay factual and say the truth though.
@adrianjacobs Yes, i know. No statistical data say that the average is near 173 cm in any country though.
Finalbeta said on 4/May/23
@Jdubbz
I didn't mean to be an actual giant, which I agree, would likely require at least 1 foot of difference with the average. However I feel like a 20 cm difference might induce many people into believing that the person looks gigantic.
I think someone like Neil Flynn does give off such impression in the US when looked in Scrubs, but he was no taller than 196 at a low.
@Jdubbz
I didn't mean to be an actual giant, which I agree, would likely require at least 1 foot of difference with the average. However I feel like a 20 cm difference might induce many people into believing that the person looks gigantic.
I think someone like Neil Flynn does give off such impression in the US when looked in Scrubs, but he was no taller than 196 at a low.
adrianjacobs said on 4/May/23
@QM6'1.75"QM
I rarely see adult men shorter than me where I live, even when I'm at my morning height.
And yes, 6'2 is a very normal height for men in this region of Stockholm, not noticeably taller than average at all. I don't see how 6'3 and 6'4 being taller than average is "disgusting". Just this morning a woman taller than me, wearing sneakers was standing next to me at a restaurant.
I don't understand why you think you're entitled to an opinion about the average height in a place you have never been to. I would never have the nerves to start saying that your own experiences of your country are FALSE based on my expectations of how people look where you live.
And no, I didn't start training, why are you asking?
@QM6'1.75"QM
I rarely see adult men shorter than me where I live, even when I'm at my morning height.
And yes, 6'2 is a very normal height for men in this region of Stockholm, not noticeably taller than average at all. I don't see how 6'3 and 6'4 being taller than average is "disgusting". Just this morning a woman taller than me, wearing sneakers was standing next to me at a restaurant.
I don't understand why you think you're entitled to an opinion about the average height in a place you have never been to. I would never have the nerves to start saying that your own experiences of your country are FALSE based on my expectations of how people look where you live.
And no, I didn't start training, why are you asking?
QM6'1.75"QM said on 4/May/23
K_916 said on 3/May/23
Yes of course, at solid 187cms i have 175-175.5cms eye level. So your chart is very correct!
adrianjacobs said on 2/May/23
Adrian, stop these holy wars, you're very delusional. If you like to understimating me/ yourself then ok, but siriously that wasting of our time.
There's no countries/places where is 6'2" man would be "solid avg".
In this case, 6'3 and 6'4" is a "above avg" which is crazy, disgusting and unreal.
I'm really like my height and never wanted to be taller. I hope you doing the same.
Did you start to training ?!
K_916 said on 3/May/23
Yes of course, at solid 187cms i have 175-175.5cms eye level. So your chart is very correct!
adrianjacobs said on 2/May/23
Adrian, stop these holy wars, you're very delusional. If you like to understimating me/ yourself then ok, but siriously that wasting of our time.
There's no countries/places where is 6'2" man would be "solid avg".
In this case, 6'3 and 6'4" is a "above avg" which is crazy, disgusting and unreal.
I'm really like my height and never wanted to be taller. I hope you doing the same.
Did you start to training ?!
adrianjacobs said on 4/May/23
@5'10.25"
Should people from Sweden start having opinions about average height in your country?
@5'10.25"
Should people from Sweden start having opinions about average height in your country?
5'10.25" said on 4/May/23
@Tiny Man Sure you do, troll.
@Tiny Man Sure you do, troll.
adrianjacobs said on 4/May/23
@Jdubbz
12.5cm is average for men in the 190cm-range
@Jdubbz
12.5cm is average for men in the 190cm-range
Gian 181cm said on 4/May/23
@K_916
181cm / 169.5cm - 170cm.
@K_916
181cm / 169.5cm - 170cm.
Jdubbz said on 4/May/23
Tiny Man said on 3/May/23
185cm (couple mm below) in the morning, 183 on the dot before bed. What should my claim be? 6 foot 1, 6 foot and a half or flat 6 foot?
Definitely not 6'1. I'd say 6'0 flat but 184cm is better if you're in a country that uses metric. You could get away with 6'0.5, but you're like a quarter inch taller than that at best and a half inch or more shorter at worst (extreme low).
Tiny Man said on 3/May/23
185cm (couple mm below) in the morning, 183 on the dot before bed. What should my claim be? 6 foot 1, 6 foot and a half or flat 6 foot?
Definitely not 6'1. I'd say 6'0 flat but 184cm is better if you're in a country that uses metric. You could get away with 6'0.5, but you're like a quarter inch taller than that at best and a half inch or more shorter at worst (extreme low).
Jdubbz said on 4/May/23
@K_916
I don't think this is super accurate btw. 12cm eye level is common for guys in the 190+ range, but probably not very common for say a 155cm individual.
@K_916
I don't think this is super accurate btw. 12cm eye level is common for guys in the 190+ range, but probably not very common for say a 155cm individual.
Jdubbz said on 4/May/23
Finalbeta said on 3/May/23
I wonder how much taller one has to be to start being considered usually gigantic by the average person.
Assuming the average in a country was 175, would 196 be enough?
Hell no. I'm taller than 196 and by no means considered a giant in the US. Giant IMO would be at least 30cm above average height. Maybe even 40cm.
Finalbeta said on 3/May/23
I wonder how much taller one has to be to start being considered usually gigantic by the average person.
Assuming the average in a country was 175, would 196 be enough?
Hell no. I'm taller than 196 and by no means considered a giant in the US. Giant IMO would be at least 30cm above average height. Maybe even 40cm.
Jdubbz said on 4/May/23
@K_916
199cm with a 187.2cm eye level here.
@K_916
199cm with a 187.2cm eye level here.
Finalbeta said on 3/May/23
I wonder how much taller one has to be to start being considered usually gigantic by the average person.
Assuming the average in a country was 175, would 196 be enough?
I wonder how much taller one has to be to start being considered usually gigantic by the average person.
Assuming the average in a country was 175, would 196 be enough?
Ipa said on 3/May/23
@Emil I met 5 Dutch guys here. Only one was head taller, rest were shorter than me 2-3 inches. Im 184 btw. I guess it depends on experience.
@Emil I met 5 Dutch guys here. Only one was head taller, rest were shorter than me 2-3 inches. Im 184 btw. I guess it depends on experience.
Jdubbz said on 3/May/23
@Okidoki:
I don't think I've ever seen you write an even slightly controversial comment. You're one of the tamest posters here, and I mean that in the best way possible haha
@Okidoki:
I don't think I've ever seen you write an even slightly controversial comment. You're one of the tamest posters here, and I mean that in the best way possible haha
Tiny Man said on 3/May/23
185cm (couple mm below) in the morning, 183 on the dot before bed. What should my claim be? 6 foot 1, 6 foot and a half or flat 6 foot?
185cm (couple mm below) in the morning, 183 on the dot before bed. What should my claim be? 6 foot 1, 6 foot and a half or flat 6 foot?
K_916 said on 3/May/23
@EVERYONE what are ur heights & eye levels I’ll start I am 6’2/189cm & have a 5’9/177cm eyelevel .
This is just out of curiosity .
I’ll put a list below of what I think is the average eye level per height from 153cm-200cm
153cm - 141cm
154cm - 142cm
155cm - 143cm
156cm - 144cm
157cm - 145cm
158cm - 146cm
159cm - 147cm
160cm - 148cm
161cm - 149cm
162cm - 150cm
163cm - 151cm
164cm - 152cm
165cm - 153cm
166cm - 154cm
167cm - 155cm
168cm - 156cm
169cm - 157cm
170cm - 158cm
171cm - 159cm
172cm - 160cm
173cm - 161cm
174cm - 162cm
175cm - 163cm
176cm - 164cm
177cm - 165cm
178cm - 166cm
179cm - 167cm
180cm- 168cm
181cm - 169cm
182cm - 170cm
183cm - 171cm
184cm - 172cm
185cm - 173cm
186cm - 174cm
187cm - 175cm
188cm - 176cm
189cm - 177cm
190cm - 178cm
191cm - 179cm
192cm - 180cm
193cm - 181cm
194cm - 182cm
195cm - 183cm
196cm - 184cm
197cm - 185cm
198cm - 186cm
199cm - 187cm
200cm - 188cm
@EVERYONE what are ur heights & eye levels I’ll start I am 6’2/189cm & have a 5’9/177cm eyelevel .
This is just out of curiosity .
I’ll put a list below of what I think is the average eye level per height from 153cm-200cm
153cm - 141cm
154cm - 142cm
155cm - 143cm
156cm - 144cm
157cm - 145cm
158cm - 146cm
159cm - 147cm
160cm - 148cm
161cm - 149cm
162cm - 150cm
163cm - 151cm
164cm - 152cm
165cm - 153cm
166cm - 154cm
167cm - 155cm
168cm - 156cm
169cm - 157cm
170cm - 158cm
171cm - 159cm
172cm - 160cm
173cm - 161cm
174cm - 162cm
175cm - 163cm
176cm - 164cm
177cm - 165cm
178cm - 166cm
179cm - 167cm
180cm- 168cm
181cm - 169cm
182cm - 170cm
183cm - 171cm
184cm - 172cm
185cm - 173cm
186cm - 174cm
187cm - 175cm
188cm - 176cm
189cm - 177cm
190cm - 178cm
191cm - 179cm
192cm - 180cm
193cm - 181cm
194cm - 182cm
195cm - 183cm
196cm - 184cm
197cm - 185cm
198cm - 186cm
199cm - 187cm
200cm - 188cm
adrianjacobs said on 3/May/23
@Okidoki
You do realize that a 5'8 woman is the equivalent of a man who's almost 6'2?
@Okidoki
You do realize that a 5'8 woman is the equivalent of a man who's almost 6'2?
pov said on 3/May/23
@5”10.25 studies show a superiority complex? What nonsense is this? I don’t think the Dutch have a superiority complex at all, far from it, they are actually very humble people lol. I think the British and Americans have more of a superiority complex than the Dutch lol. (I’m British btw). You could also argue it’s superiority complex to refuse to acknowledge actual studies by another country. I don’t see no reason why they would pull out figures out of thin air. And as I said before, I agree with those studies from living and working there for two years, If I thought they were exaggerated, I clearly would have noticed. … You said they are “average at best compared to most european countries”? That makes sense doesn’t it, being the tallest population on the planet? I would say most germanic european countries average 179-180cm, eastern block countries average 180-181cm, scandanavian countries average 181-182cm. The dutch are taller than all of them. That is not a superiority complex, that is facts.
@5”10.25 studies show a superiority complex? What nonsense is this? I don’t think the Dutch have a superiority complex at all, far from it, they are actually very humble people lol. I think the British and Americans have more of a superiority complex than the Dutch lol. (I’m British btw). You could also argue it’s superiority complex to refuse to acknowledge actual studies by another country. I don’t see no reason why they would pull out figures out of thin air. And as I said before, I agree with those studies from living and working there for two years, If I thought they were exaggerated, I clearly would have noticed. … You said they are “average at best compared to most european countries”? That makes sense doesn’t it, being the tallest population on the planet? I would say most germanic european countries average 179-180cm, eastern block countries average 180-181cm, scandanavian countries average 181-182cm. The dutch are taller than all of them. That is not a superiority complex, that is facts.
Okidoki said on 3/May/23
@Pov So*
@Pov So*
Okidoki said on 3/May/23
@Bobby There have been questions posed as to if women selectively would breed with short men for example and that they often were taller, would they have reached men's heights over generations?
And the answer was no, because of how much mothers heights impacted sons. There have also been studies claiming that the mothers height genes was even more dominant than the fathers, although ofourse, the fathers height genes too make an impact.
Then it has been done research too at how big of a percentage nutrition, enviroment, activty etc make of an impact. For white races for example, it was said that the height genes make about 80% of the final height. That was interesting, as some other races had around 60% for example.
There have also been posed some theories about genetical engineering, but logically, that sounds like it could give health problems to people. That's unnatural and not a good thing in my opinion :P
@Poster Yes, he does a great job, it's not easy too. He has a sense of humour too which i understand, so following this website can be enjoyable heheh.
@Pov Yes, it's a minimal difference, but still. Do nutrition and activity would generally make a bit of a difference in height yes, in countries with poverty ofcourse, it could make a big difference.
@Bobby There have been questions posed as to if women selectively would breed with short men for example and that they often were taller, would they have reached men's heights over generations?
And the answer was no, because of how much mothers heights impacted sons. There have also been studies claiming that the mothers height genes was even more dominant than the fathers, although ofourse, the fathers height genes too make an impact.
Then it has been done research too at how big of a percentage nutrition, enviroment, activty etc make of an impact. For white races for example, it was said that the height genes make about 80% of the final height. That was interesting, as some other races had around 60% for example.
There have also been posed some theories about genetical engineering, but logically, that sounds like it could give health problems to people. That's unnatural and not a good thing in my opinion :P
@Poster Yes, he does a great job, it's not easy too. He has a sense of humour too which i understand, so following this website can be enjoyable heheh.
@Pov Yes, it's a minimal difference, but still. Do nutrition and activity would generally make a bit of a difference in height yes, in countries with poverty ofcourse, it could make a big difference.
Charline said on 3/May/23
@ MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 Thanks for the reply in my question that I made for all in general,I respect the tastes of everyone, but I think that 6 foot is too much for a woman and a typical height of a man, while 5'1 is like a height of a child. So, that's why I think a strong 5'6 is ideal height for a woman.
@ MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 Thanks for the reply in my question that I made for all in general,I respect the tastes of everyone, but I think that 6 foot is too much for a woman and a typical height of a man, while 5'1 is like a height of a child. So, that's why I think a strong 5'6 is ideal height for a woman.
5'10.25" said on 3/May/23
@Johan185 But you have also plenty of Bosnians there (Rotterdam), so it should bring back the average up.
@Johan185 But you have also plenty of Bosnians there (Rotterdam), so it should bring back the average up.
5'10.25" said on 3/May/23
@Mask Interesting, I personally find women around 170 cm to be the most attractive. Also 160-165 cm is not bad.
@Mask Interesting, I personally find women around 170 cm to be the most attractive. Also 160-165 cm is not bad.
5'10.25" said on 3/May/23
@pov Well I'm from Slovenia, it's 178 cm for the general population and 180 cm for younger guys. And my generation born in the 1990s is the same height as those born in the 2000s, around 180 cm. It's definitely not 181 cm lol. Croatia is similar but more 179 cm general population and 180 cm younger guys.
@pov Well I'm from Slovenia, it's 178 cm for the general population and 180 cm for younger guys. And my generation born in the 1990s is the same height as those born in the 2000s, around 180 cm. It's definitely not 181 cm lol. Croatia is similar but more 179 cm general population and 180 cm younger guys.
James B 5ft8 said on 3/May/23
According to this adult height prediction calculator I should have ended up 6ft1 as an adult since I was the same height as my mother (5ft2) when I just turned 12.
According to this adult height prediction calculator I should have ended up 6ft1 as an adult since I was the same height as my mother (5ft2) when I just turned 12.
James B 5ft8 said on 3/May/23
Bobby said on 3/May/23
@Okidoki
I am at least half a foot taller than my mother and around two to three inches taller than my father. I am uncertain how tall he was when he was my age, but given the severely physical nature of the jobs he did, I am willing to believe that he stood around 5'9 (flat) which was tall, especially for his household.
Every generation gets taller than the last under ideal conditions, owing to improved nutrition and lifestyle. I am not sure I buy that a son's genetically inherited stature is from his mother, though. I would not be tall as I am if that was the case. I am more willing to believe that women inherit stature from their mothers while men do so from their fathers, but in reality, it is likely a combination of factors from both parents.
Bobby-My mother was 5ft2 when younger and my dad 5ft10.5-5ft11 peak (I think).
I turned out about 5ft8 so do you think I got more my dads height genes or my mothers?
Bobby said on 3/May/23
@Okidoki
I am at least half a foot taller than my mother and around two to three inches taller than my father. I am uncertain how tall he was when he was my age, but given the severely physical nature of the jobs he did, I am willing to believe that he stood around 5'9 (flat) which was tall, especially for his household.
Every generation gets taller than the last under ideal conditions, owing to improved nutrition and lifestyle. I am not sure I buy that a son's genetically inherited stature is from his mother, though. I would not be tall as I am if that was the case. I am more willing to believe that women inherit stature from their mothers while men do so from their fathers, but in reality, it is likely a combination of factors from both parents.
Bobby-My mother was 5ft2 when younger and my dad 5ft10.5-5ft11 peak (I think).
I turned out about 5ft8 so do you think I got more my dads height genes or my mothers?
Bobby said on 3/May/23
@Okidoki
I am at least half a foot taller than my mother and around two to three inches taller than my father. I am uncertain how tall he was when he was my age, but given the severely physical nature of the jobs he did, I am willing to believe that he stood around 5'9 (flat) which was tall, especially for his household.
Every generation gets taller than the last under ideal conditions, owing to improved nutrition and lifestyle. I am not sure I buy that a son's genetically inherited stature is from his mother, though. I would not be tall as I am if that was the case. I am more willing to believe that women inherit stature from their mothers while men do so from their fathers, but in reality, it is likely a combination of factors from both parents.
@Okidoki
I am at least half a foot taller than my mother and around two to three inches taller than my father. I am uncertain how tall he was when he was my age, but given the severely physical nature of the jobs he did, I am willing to believe that he stood around 5'9 (flat) which was tall, especially for his household.
Every generation gets taller than the last under ideal conditions, owing to improved nutrition and lifestyle. I am not sure I buy that a son's genetically inherited stature is from his mother, though. I would not be tall as I am if that was the case. I am more willing to believe that women inherit stature from their mothers while men do so from their fathers, but in reality, it is likely a combination of factors from both parents.
Alex 6'0 said on 3/May/23
Progking185, you're close to 6'1 and should feel tall in fair amount of places
Progking185, you're close to 6'1 and should feel tall in fair amount of places
Vsquad said on 3/May/23
I live in Australia, am 184 - 184.5 cm throughout the whole day. I only dip below 184 if I end the night on a workout or have been walking the whole day.
I started a new job in the city last year and actually feel surprisingly tall walking around. I never used to go into the city as much before, only for social calls, but those times that I did I always felt average. It felt like I was surrounded by 6'2+ guys everywhere, especially at bars and clubs.
Looking back I think that was just me being insecure and surprised at the bigger diversity of heights in the city. And, yeah, I was frequenting bars and clubs, which is where all the tall guys are more likely to congregate (given their "better odds").
I feel solid tall walking around the city in basic 2.5 cm dress shoes. It honestly surprises me still. I feel even more solid tall out in the suburbs/at shopping centres. People still refer to me as tall during basic conversations too.
I live in Australia, am 184 - 184.5 cm throughout the whole day. I only dip below 184 if I end the night on a workout or have been walking the whole day.
I started a new job in the city last year and actually feel surprisingly tall walking around. I never used to go into the city as much before, only for social calls, but those times that I did I always felt average. It felt like I was surrounded by 6'2+ guys everywhere, especially at bars and clubs.
Looking back I think that was just me being insecure and surprised at the bigger diversity of heights in the city. And, yeah, I was frequenting bars and clubs, which is where all the tall guys are more likely to congregate (given their "better odds").
I feel solid tall walking around the city in basic 2.5 cm dress shoes. It honestly surprises me still. I feel even more solid tall out in the suburbs/at shopping centres. People still refer to me as tall during basic conversations too.
Poster said on 2/May/23
@Okidoki: Rob posted my reply to you and James. I think that he's just inundated with comments, like Jdubbz says. He's quite the professional, so I knew that it had a simple explanation. Rob does a great job on this site, but I'm sure that things get in the way at times.
Editor Rob
@Okidoki: Rob posted my reply to you and James. I think that he's just inundated with comments, like Jdubbz says. He's quite the professional, so I knew that it had a simple explanation. Rob does a great job on this site, but I'm sure that things get in the way at times.
Editor RobJust to reitirate what I said on my page - unfortunately for a while I won't be replying to comments, but will still have comments on.
So feel free to vote/comment, just understand I can't reply to anything at the moment.
So feel free to vote/comment, just understand I can't reply to anything at the moment.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 2/May/23
@Charline
It's subjective really and down to taste/preference. My mate likes short women- around the 5'1 mark. Personally I find 6 foot women more attractive than 5 foot range.
@Charline
It's subjective really and down to taste/preference. My mate likes short women- around the 5'1 mark. Personally I find 6 foot women more attractive than 5 foot range.
pov said on 2/May/23
@progking, in the UK I feel above average / tallish at 184cm, but not a solid tall. Our average is similar to Canada for young men, at around 177-178cm. I feel a legit “tall” is about 4 inches (10.16cm) above average.
So let’s say average is 177-178cm (5”9.6 - 5”10) I’d say tall starts at 187-188cm. (Solid 6”1.6 - 6”2)
@progking, in the UK I feel above average / tallish at 184cm, but not a solid tall. Our average is similar to Canada for young men, at around 177-178cm. I feel a legit “tall” is about 4 inches (10.16cm) above average.
So let’s say average is 177-178cm (5”9.6 - 5”10) I’d say tall starts at 187-188cm. (Solid 6”1.6 - 6”2)
5'10.25" said on 2/May/23
@pov they're giants compared to the average male around the world who averages about 169-170 cm if you adjust for the population. They're above average at best compared to most european countries who average 175-180 cm. It's just superiority complex.
@pov they're giants compared to the average male around the world who averages about 169-170 cm if you adjust for the population. They're above average at best compared to most european countries who average 175-180 cm. It's just superiority complex.
Tiny Man said on 2/May/23
I'm from Sweden and at 184cm I feel very short, average must be like 6 foot 3 these days.
I'm from Sweden and at 184cm I feel very short, average must be like 6 foot 3 these days.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 2/May/23
Hey Rob,any idea on Allan Mustafa from PJDN? I think he generally looks 5'7 range. Also, how tall is that Steve stamp guy, he looks very tall in the show maybe 6'5? I think he's gotta be at least 6'4.
Hey Rob,any idea on Allan Mustafa from PJDN? I think he generally looks 5'7 range. Also, how tall is that Steve stamp guy, he looks very tall in the show maybe 6'5? I think he's gotta be at least 6'4.
Johan 185 cm said on 2/May/23
The Netherlands is very small and so yes you will on the daily see 6'8" men just walking around. Ofc I dont actually believe there is more 6'8" than 5'8" but it will be alot closer than most seem to think. Immigrant population brings the average down, strong 183 range is very believable. 185 and 186 were shoe measurements in the past.
Regions also have large differences. In the south men are shorter, a drive of some 2-3 hours just to show you how tiny we are. I think the average was shown as 180 range there and in the north there were provinces with 184 cm.
The Netherlands is very small and so yes you will on the daily see 6'8" men just walking around. Ofc I dont actually believe there is more 6'8" than 5'8" but it will be alot closer than most seem to think. Immigrant population brings the average down, strong 183 range is very believable. 185 and 186 were shoe measurements in the past.
Regions also have large differences. In the south men are shorter, a drive of some 2-3 hours just to show you how tiny we are. I think the average was shown as 180 range there and in the north there were provinces with 184 cm.
Okidoki said on 2/May/23
@Rob I have been in Scandinavia and in the Balkans too and never seen someone taller than around 6'11. In the Netherlands maybe, the chance to see 7ft people maybe increase a bit, but it seems to be extremely rare to the extent that it's a chance of luck to see them, even in the tallest countries in my opinion.
@Rob I have been in Scandinavia and in the Balkans too and never seen someone taller than around 6'11. In the Netherlands maybe, the chance to see 7ft people maybe increase a bit, but it seems to be extremely rare to the extent that it's a chance of luck to see them, even in the tallest countries in my opinion.
Okidoki said on 2/May/23
@Jdubbz Yes, it has happened to me a few times too, but i feel that i wrote something controversial back then.
While sometimes, it can take around 5 days that the comment shows up. Personally, it doesn't bother me, Rob does a job, which is probably tiring and not easy to handle :P
@Jdubbz Yes, it has happened to me a few times too, but i feel that i wrote something controversial back then.
While sometimes, it can take around 5 days that the comment shows up. Personally, it doesn't bother me, Rob does a job, which is probably tiring and not easy to handle :P
Okidoki said on 2/May/23
@Poster Well, as you probably can see, many people disagree over height averages. But most valid height averages are as follows for young people:
Most countries in the western world have a 165-166 cm average for women, while not far away is 167-168 cm, likewise 164 cm. The tallest countries, which is just a few, have an average between 169-170 cm.
For men, it's usually around 5'10 in the west, but there are now almost as many young people who average 5'11. People may disagree with that, which you can sometimes see here on the forum, but the stats say that there are only a bit more 5'10 averages than 5'11 for young people, although, there is a good handful of 176-177 cm too though.
In other continents or races, the averages for young people are usually between 5'7-5'9 though and for women, between 5'2-5'4.
So if we believe these stats, a 5'8 average would be 3 inches, often just 2 inches taller than average women, a 5'10 average would be 5 inches, often 4 inches taller than the average.
I asked Rob this question once and even he, who obviously have superior knowledge to myself of course, couldn't quite give a concrete answer to that :P
I have seen people debate that women are not given as much privileges or not as encouraged to do physical activity as men for example, which may lead to them not fulfilling their potential height/size. I have seen a lot of people use this argument and to some extent, that may be true.
For men though, it's interesting to note in general, men have more jobs sitting or in the office, it is found also that men's testosterone levels have dropped almost half since the 80's. Yet, despite this negative trend, according to stats, men have had a slight increase in height since the 80's in general.
Given these factors, in my opinion, maybe women have more room for improvement than men interms of height. But over 2 inches? I am not sure about that, maybe 3 inches at the most for women and 2 inches for men. Rob said that it has to reach a plateau and with the modern life, technology, i don't think there is much room for improvement anymore.
As you are a person who likes to workout, just so you know, the stats say that in the last few years, in some Scandinavia countries, there are more women than men who do Crossfit now. In strength sports, strength training etc, there has been a significant increase interms of stats for women in general in the West, while there have been in general somewhat of a decrease for men.
"Strong is the new skinny" came in the early 2000's and has since increased quite a bit in popularity. It's much more accepted now and more encouraged for women in general to do such activites socially and the stigmas are starting to fade against that, but not completely yet though.
With this new cultural changes these last 5 years etc, we could see these improvements. Could i personally imagine an average of around 6'0 in most countries for men? Yes, but not as high as 6'2 though. Could i imagine it as high as 5'8 for women? Possibly, but 5'10 though? I don't know that high.
@Poster Well, as you probably can see, many people disagree over height averages. But most valid height averages are as follows for young people:
Most countries in the western world have a 165-166 cm average for women, while not far away is 167-168 cm, likewise 164 cm. The tallest countries, which is just a few, have an average between 169-170 cm.
For men, it's usually around 5'10 in the west, but there are now almost as many young people who average 5'11. People may disagree with that, which you can sometimes see here on the forum, but the stats say that there are only a bit more 5'10 averages than 5'11 for young people, although, there is a good handful of 176-177 cm too though.
In other continents or races, the averages for young people are usually between 5'7-5'9 though and for women, between 5'2-5'4.
So if we believe these stats, a 5'8 average would be 3 inches, often just 2 inches taller than average women, a 5'10 average would be 5 inches, often 4 inches taller than the average.
I asked Rob this question once and even he, who obviously have superior knowledge to myself of course, couldn't quite give a concrete answer to that :P
I have seen people debate that women are not given as much privileges or not as encouraged to do physical activity as men for example, which may lead to them not fulfilling their potential height/size. I have seen a lot of people use this argument and to some extent, that may be true.
For men though, it's interesting to note in general, men have more jobs sitting or in the office, it is found also that men's testosterone levels have dropped almost half since the 80's. Yet, despite this negative trend, according to stats, men have had a slight increase in height since the 80's in general.
Given these factors, in my opinion, maybe women have more room for improvement than men interms of height. But over 2 inches? I am not sure about that, maybe 3 inches at the most for women and 2 inches for men. Rob said that it has to reach a plateau and with the modern life, technology, i don't think there is much room for improvement anymore.
As you are a person who likes to workout, just so you know, the stats say that in the last few years, in some Scandinavia countries, there are more women than men who do Crossfit now. In strength sports, strength training etc, there has been a significant increase interms of stats for women in general in the West, while there have been in general somewhat of a decrease for men.
"Strong is the new skinny" came in the early 2000's and has since increased quite a bit in popularity. It's much more accepted now and more encouraged for women in general to do such activites socially and the stigmas are starting to fade against that, but not completely yet though.
With this new cultural changes these last 5 years etc, we could see these improvements. Could i personally imagine an average of around 6'0 in most countries for men? Yes, but not as high as 6'2 though. Could i imagine it as high as 5'8 for women? Possibly, but 5'10 though? I don't know that high.
adrianjacobs said on 2/May/23
@QM6'1.75"QM
Yeah, at 6'1.75 you would probably be about solid average in Östermalm, the area of Stockholm where I live. There are even times when groups of younger guys can pass me on the street an all appear to be 6'3-range.
Slightly above average in most of Sweden, probably not more than an inch though.
@QM6'1.75"QM
Yeah, at 6'1.75 you would probably be about solid average in Östermalm, the area of Stockholm where I live. There are even times when groups of younger guys can pass me on the street an all appear to be 6'3-range.
Slightly above average in most of Sweden, probably not more than an inch though.
Sandy Cowell said on 2/May/23
Please, Rob, could we have a page for the late actor, Anthony Valentine, who stood 5ft11.75. He starred with Christopher Lee and Honor Blackman in To The Devil A Daughter, with Edward Woodward in Callam, as an evil Luftwaffe member in Colditz. He had many bit parts too.
Thank you!
Please, Rob, could we have a page for the late actor, Anthony Valentine, who stood 5ft11.75. He starred with Christopher Lee and Honor Blackman in To The Devil A Daughter, with Edward Woodward in Callam, as an evil Luftwaffe member in Colditz. He had many bit parts too.
Thank you!
pov said on 2/May/23
@5”10.25 I think statistics nederland even said 182.9cm (roughly 183cm) , so what makes you think it’s 182cm flat? And of course these statistics accounts for the entire population and immigrants too (they have a large turkish and morrocan population). But the studies have shown the average height for an ethnic dutch man is varies from 183.7-183.9. Let’s agree to disagree. I truly believe on average they hover around the 184cm mark. With regards to the other countries in discussion, I haven’t been to any other all scandanavian countries other than Sweden and Denmark, but I can confirm the dutch were slightly taller than them both. As for eastern europeans, I think croatians, serbians, slovenians, estonians are around the 181cm mark. And bosnians average around 182cm, from what I’ve seen from studies. I’ve only ever been to croatia in eastern europe, I agree with the the 181cm for them.
@Okidoki, yes I agree young dutch men are a little over 183cm on average, my point was the dutch are getting shorter, as the 80’s cohort were measured at 183.9cm. I think it’s because younger dutch men now grow up with a more westernised diet, and more fast foods etc. For most countries, they are growing taller on average, so in NL it’s a bizarre case, but perhaps they’ve reached their max average potential for the population given conditions.
@5”10.25 I think statistics nederland even said 182.9cm (roughly 183cm) , so what makes you think it’s 182cm flat? And of course these statistics accounts for the entire population and immigrants too (they have a large turkish and morrocan population). But the studies have shown the average height for an ethnic dutch man is varies from 183.7-183.9. Let’s agree to disagree. I truly believe on average they hover around the 184cm mark. With regards to the other countries in discussion, I haven’t been to any other all scandanavian countries other than Sweden and Denmark, but I can confirm the dutch were slightly taller than them both. As for eastern europeans, I think croatians, serbians, slovenians, estonians are around the 181cm mark. And bosnians average around 182cm, from what I’ve seen from studies. I’ve only ever been to croatia in eastern europe, I agree with the the 181cm for them.
@Okidoki, yes I agree young dutch men are a little over 183cm on average, my point was the dutch are getting shorter, as the 80’s cohort were measured at 183.9cm. I think it’s because younger dutch men now grow up with a more westernised diet, and more fast foods etc. For most countries, they are growing taller on average, so in NL it’s a bizarre case, but perhaps they’ve reached their max average potential for the population given conditions.
Kwanza said on 2/May/23
@rob would u list me as 6’2.5 on here or 6’2.25 with a 177cm eye level . I tell 6’2 because I don’t bother claiming the fraction what would u say ?
@rob would u list me as 6’2.5 on here or 6’2.25 with a 177cm eye level . I tell 6’2 because I don’t bother claiming the fraction what would u say ?
Poster said on 1/May/23
@Okidoki: Who knows. He didn't even post my recent reply to you and James, and I'm definitely not breaking any rules.
@Okidoki: Who knows. He didn't even post my recent reply to you and James, and I'm definitely not breaking any rules.
Progking185 said on 1/May/23
@Jubbz 6 cm is more just above average/tallish. Though I do notice kind of a big difference looking up at that mark(about 191). I think 7-8 cm is enough to be tall, i.e. here in Canada young average seems to be 177-178 and I feel fairly tall at around 185.
@Jubbz 6 cm is more just above average/tallish. Though I do notice kind of a big difference looking up at that mark(about 191). I think 7-8 cm is enough to be tall, i.e. here in Canada young average seems to be 177-178 and I feel fairly tall at around 185.
Charline said on 1/May/23
Do you all ladies and gentlemen and also our great Editor of the page Rob agree that strong 5'6 range women for example like Angelina Jolie are the perfect height for women. 168, 168.5 cm is just right, the perfect balance. They look fabulous both in flats and heels.
Do you all ladies and gentlemen and also our great Editor of the page Rob agree that strong 5'6 range women for example like Angelina Jolie are the perfect height for women. 168, 168.5 cm is just right, the perfect balance. They look fabulous both in flats and heels.
Jdubbz said on 1/May/23
Okidoki:
I don’t think it’s because she posts anything rule breaking or controversial, it’s just that comments don’t go through at times. This has happened to me before where I post a very detailed comment, and it never shows up. This is more likely to happen when there is a big delay in when comments show up (for example, the recent 10 day gap ).
I know it’s not Rob’s fault (I can’t imagine the sheer volume of comments he has to approve daily), but it’s pretty frustrating when it happens. These days I save any detailed comment in a word doc just in case it doesn’t go through, so I can try again later.
Okidoki:
I don’t think it’s because she posts anything rule breaking or controversial, it’s just that comments don’t go through at times. This has happened to me before where I post a very detailed comment, and it never shows up. This is more likely to happen when there is a big delay in when comments show up (for example, the recent 10 day gap ).
I know it’s not Rob’s fault (I can’t imagine the sheer volume of comments he has to approve daily), but it’s pretty frustrating when it happens. These days I save any detailed comment in a word doc just in case it doesn’t go through, so I can try again later.
Caleb 178.8cm said on 1/May/23
If Dmitry Muserskiy (tallest male volleyball player) is 218cm, how tall do you think this lady is? Do you think she is 195cm as she claims? Click Here
If Dmitry Muserskiy (tallest male volleyball player) is 218cm, how tall do you think this lady is? Do you think she is 195cm as she claims? Click Here
rlheight5'11 said on 1/May/23
@Rob
I remember you told me that, I wasn't asking a question anyway, I think 😎
@Rob
I remember you told me that, I wasn't asking a question anyway, I think 😎
Rockaway said on 1/May/23
Even if the average is 184cm, even 185cm, to say it is more rare to see someone who is 5'8 than 6'8 is a ridiculous claim. "Basic math" if the average is 6'1 - meaning a 6'8 person would be 7 inches above average, where 5'8 is 5 inches below the average. Good heavens, the fact this needs to be spelled out for some people...
Even if the average is 184cm, even 185cm, to say it is more rare to see someone who is 5'8 than 6'8 is a ridiculous claim. "Basic math" if the average is 6'1 - meaning a 6'8 person would be 7 inches above average, where 5'8 is 5 inches below the average. Good heavens, the fact this needs to be spelled out for some people...
Johan 185 cm said on 1/May/23
Jdubbz said on 29/Apr/23
@Johan 185 cm
That doesn't really make sense though...If the average is 6'0 roughly, you should see as many 6'8 guys as you do 5'4 guys, and way way more 5'8 guys than either. If you see more 6'8 men than 5'8 men, the average must be way higher than just 6 foot.
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Its probably just personal bias as we notice those taller than ourselves more. But truly most guys are walking around 178 cm minimum. 180s is very common and guys who are in the 190s also. I actually wonder what our average would be if we just measured Dutch nationals and not include the immigrant population.
Jdubbz said on 29/Apr/23
@Johan 185 cm
That doesn't really make sense though...If the average is 6'0 roughly, you should see as many 6'8 guys as you do 5'4 guys, and way way more 5'8 guys than either. If you see more 6'8 men than 5'8 men, the average must be way higher than just 6 foot.
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Its probably just personal bias as we notice those taller than ourselves more. But truly most guys are walking around 178 cm minimum. 180s is very common and guys who are in the 190s also. I actually wonder what our average would be if we just measured Dutch nationals and not include the immigrant population.
5'10.25" said on 1/May/23
@Finalbeta Average in Italy is 174 cm and USA 175 cm. So barely any difference, 1cm more for younger guys. US whites are 177-178 cm -/+ 5 cm depending on ethnicity of said white person.
@Finalbeta Average in Italy is 174 cm and USA 175 cm. So barely any difference, 1cm more for younger guys. US whites are 177-178 cm -/+ 5 cm depending on ethnicity of said white person.
Okidoki said on 1/May/23
@pov According to most sources, young average Dutchmen are in the 183-184 cm range.
If you are a 5'11 guy for example, according to stats for youngmen at least, you will be atleast average in most countries and in only about 6 countries, you will be slightly below average to below average.
Like a half inch to an inch-inch and a half.
@pov According to most sources, young average Dutchmen are in the 183-184 cm range.
If you are a 5'11 guy for example, according to stats for youngmen at least, you will be atleast average in most countries and in only about 6 countries, you will be slightly below average to below average.
Like a half inch to an inch-inch and a half.
5'10.25" said on 1/May/23
There is also no evidence for eastern europeans averaging as high as 181-182 cm, the tallest in that region are western slavs and they average more or less 178-180cm.
There is also no evidence for eastern europeans averaging as high as 181-182 cm, the tallest in that region are western slavs and they average more or less 178-180cm.
5'10.25" said on 1/May/23
@pov Dutch and Bosnians are the tallest in the world and they average about 182 cm. Tall is about 2sd over average, above average 1sd. So above average is considered around 189 cm there and tall 196 cm.
@pov Dutch and Bosnians are the tallest in the world and they average about 182 cm. Tall is about 2sd over average, above average 1sd. So above average is considered around 189 cm there and tall 196 cm.
Kwanza said on 1/May/23
Rob my eyelevel is currently 177cm I guess I’m 189cm would u say that’s correct ?
Editor Rob
Rob my eyelevel is currently 177cm I guess I’m 189cm would u say that’s correct ?
Editor RobYou likely clear 188cm and on average you'd expect about 189cm.
Sam83 said on 1/May/23
@okidoki and @rlheights5’11 Thank you for your comments, I agree, it is likely I just notice them shorter than me and don’t seem to see that many girls over 6’1 in their heels, although I haven’t been to many night clubs lately, so maybe I am wrong!
I never thought about it really, until we were at a party and the 5’7 had some really high platform heels on and I had taken shoes off, so had not extra height than my 5’11! I’m sure they felt very similar height to me, not sure if 5’7 could get taller than a 5’11 in some high shoes! I can’t remember the exact style, but some shoes are pretty high! Not sure if anyone had been around anyone in super high laird before and noticed a big difference in the height they become!
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@okidoki and @rlheights5’11 Thank you for your comments, I agree, it is likely I just notice them shorter than me and don’t seem to see that many girls over 6’1 in their heels, although I haven’t been to many night clubs lately, so maybe I am wrong!
I never thought about it really, until we were at a party and the 5’7 had some really high platform heels on and I had taken shoes off, so had not extra height than my 5’11! I’m sure they felt very similar height to me, not sure if 5’7 could get taller than a 5’11 in some high shoes! I can’t remember the exact style, but some shoes are pretty high! Not sure if anyone had been around anyone in super high laird before and noticed a big difference in the height they become!
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Caleb 178.8cm said on 30/Apr/23
Rob, besides 7ft1 Ian Whyte and 6ft11 Arie Decker, who's the tallest man you've ever met in person?
Editor Rob
Rob, besides 7ft1 Ian Whyte and 6ft11 Arie Decker, who's the tallest man you've ever met in person?
Editor RobI can't recall seeing anybody taller than Ian up close. I've seen Ross Sambridge up close, and didn't think he was quite as tall as Arie, though his posture isn't as good.
Poster said on 30/Apr/23
@Okidoki: I've read different things. My instinct and intuition tell me that males tend to get their moms' height genes while females tend to get their dads' height genes. Of course, this isn't written in stone, and there likely are cases where the reverse is true. I just think that it happens more often than not.
It could be that women's height will increase until there is a cutoff point. Do you think that the average could be as tall as 5'8" or 5'10"? It might even be 5'8 now in a few places. I'm referring to various locations in the Netherlands, for the most part.
@James: The sister was bigger and stronger than the brother. She carried objects that were too heavy for him, and they were both adults at the time. She was five to ten years older. They had different dads, so that might have impacted their physical characteristics.
@Okidoki: I've read different things. My instinct and intuition tell me that males tend to get their moms' height genes while females tend to get their dads' height genes. Of course, this isn't written in stone, and there likely are cases where the reverse is true. I just think that it happens more often than not.
It could be that women's height will increase until there is a cutoff point. Do you think that the average could be as tall as 5'8" or 5'10"? It might even be 5'8 now in a few places. I'm referring to various locations in the Netherlands, for the most part.
@James: The sister was bigger and stronger than the brother. She carried objects that were too heavy for him, and they were both adults at the time. She was five to ten years older. They had different dads, so that might have impacted their physical characteristics.
5'10.25" said on 30/Apr/23
@pov the source is Statistics Nederlands.
@pov the source is Statistics Nederlands.
Rockaway said on 30/Apr/23
More rare to see a male who is 5’8” than 6’8”? As others have mentioned this is statically impossible ANYWHERE on planet earth. Good lord there is so much nonsense on this forum…
More rare to see a male who is 5’8” than 6’8”? As others have mentioned this is statically impossible ANYWHERE on planet earth. Good lord there is so much nonsense on this forum…
QM6'1.75"QM said on 30/Apr/23
Also i defended both 5'10 and 6'0", but these aren't my height anyway.
Honestly maybe your main problem is weak back muscles and bad posture.
Only training make you feel right, straight, powerful about yourself, man.
Peace!
Also i defended both 5'10 and 6'0", but these aren't my height anyway.
Honestly maybe your main problem is weak back muscles and bad posture.
Only training make you feel right, straight, powerful about yourself, man.
Peace!
QM6'1.75"QM said on 30/Apr/23
adrianjacobs said on 29/Apr/23
I'm not afraid of anything, Adrian. It's you again trying to start a new war here in comments.
I hope you doing good, because months earlier you sounded really delusional and aggressive.
I perfectly know how tall am i, i have no problems with my eyes, posture, self-confidence, bro.
You have bad feeling about yourself in this world and then you can't find your inner peace.
P.S. I'm 6'1.75" as my nickname, so 187.2-3cms evening!
adrianjacobs said on 29/Apr/23
I'm not afraid of anything, Adrian. It's you again trying to start a new war here in comments.
I hope you doing good, because months earlier you sounded really delusional and aggressive.
I perfectly know how tall am i, i have no problems with my eyes, posture, self-confidence, bro.
You have bad feeling about yourself in this world and then you can't find your inner peace.
P.S. I'm 6'1.75" as my nickname, so 187.2-3cms evening!
pov said on 30/Apr/23
I think some of you refuse to believe there is population out here averaging over the 6 foot mark. I think it stems from this obsession with the imperial feet and inches system and 6 foot being the “start of tall” (which it clearly isn’t in this day and age). They wouldn’t call the Netherlands a “nation of giants” for no reason, if they were only 181-182cm, they would be no different to the Scandinavians, and Eastern Europeans, who hover around that mark. I believe the dutch are the tallest country by a clear 1.5-2cm margin, over the other “tall” countries. If they were only 181-182cm, I would have personally recognised I’m slightly above average, I literally felt bang average, and even small at times standing next to above average range / tall people.
The dutch themselves claim to be 184cm, and the studies back this showing results of (183.7cm-183.9cm). Yet people still refuse to believe it lmao
I think some of you refuse to believe there is population out here averaging over the 6 foot mark. I think it stems from this obsession with the imperial feet and inches system and 6 foot being the “start of tall” (which it clearly isn’t in this day and age). They wouldn’t call the Netherlands a “nation of giants” for no reason, if they were only 181-182cm, they would be no different to the Scandinavians, and Eastern Europeans, who hover around that mark. I believe the dutch are the tallest country by a clear 1.5-2cm margin, over the other “tall” countries. If they were only 181-182cm, I would have personally recognised I’m slightly above average, I literally felt bang average, and even small at times standing next to above average range / tall people.
The dutch themselves claim to be 184cm, and the studies back this showing results of (183.7cm-183.9cm). Yet people still refuse to believe it lmao
Okidoki said on 30/Apr/23
@Poster Why wouldn't he post it, are you breaking the rules or writing controversy? :P Heheh
I try to stay neutral and objective and this seems to be accepted.
@Poster Why wouldn't he post it, are you breaking the rules or writing controversy? :P Heheh
I try to stay neutral and objective and this seems to be accepted.
Finalbeta said on 30/Apr/23
Rob how many centimeters is the average US man taller than the average Italian man? A couple maybe?
Editor Rob
Rob how many centimeters is the average US man taller than the average Italian man? A couple maybe?
Editor RobDon't think there's much difference nowadays.
oren metser said on 30/Apr/23
How are you dear Rob ?
How tall is Nemania Vidic the ex Man United cb in your opinion?
Most sources say 1.89m or 6'2.5 but I find it as an underlisting.
I think he never shrinks further from 6'3 and change or 1.91m. 6'2 and a half underlists him by roughly an inch or 3cm
Or even 1.5 inches (an inch and a half)
I guess , he can legitimately hit 1.93m or 6'4 an hour or two after bed and shrinks to a weak 6'4 or 1.925m.
His evening or late after noon mark would be 6'3.5 or 1.92m. At his lowest he'd get a tad over 6'3 or 1.91m.
If I were to build his profile he'd get 1.92m (6'3 and a half or 6'3 and 3/4).
Are you with me Rob?
Thank you. Keep walking tall.
Editor Rob
How are you dear Rob ?
How tall is Nemania Vidic the ex Man United cb in your opinion?
Most sources say 1.89m or 6'2.5 but I find it as an underlisting.
I think he never shrinks further from 6'3 and change or 1.91m. 6'2 and a half underlists him by roughly an inch or 3cm
Or even 1.5 inches (an inch and a half)
I guess , he can legitimately hit 1.93m or 6'4 an hour or two after bed and shrinks to a weak 6'4 or 1.925m.
His evening or late after noon mark would be 6'3.5 or 1.92m. At his lowest he'd get a tad over 6'3 or 1.91m.
If I were to build his profile he'd get 1.92m (6'3 and a half or 6'3 and 3/4).
Are you with me Rob?
Thank you. Keep walking tall.
Editor Rob189-90 would be my guess.
5'10.25" said on 30/Apr/23
@MaskDeMasque5'9.5" Yes, I agree. I was in Rotterdam in 2017-2018 and even then I felt the average was more or less 180-182 cm range, maybe closer to 182 cm for young guys. Even if the average was 183 cm, according to the normal distribution there should be an equal amount of 173 cm and 193 cm guys.
@MaskDeMasque5'9.5" Yes, I agree. I was in Rotterdam in 2017-2018 and even then I felt the average was more or less 180-182 cm range, maybe closer to 182 cm for young guys. Even if the average was 183 cm, according to the normal distribution there should be an equal amount of 173 cm and 193 cm guys.
pov said on 30/Apr/23
5’10.25, your source is “CEO world magazine”?
As I said earlier, I have seen some articles put them as high as 186cm, which I clearly also mentioned is absolutely ridiculous, meaning I don’t agree with it, and also they are not credible, much like your source. The most accurate depiction I’ve seen so far, and come from highly credible sources are, The world population review who puts their average height as 183.78cm. And statistics Netherlands puts their overall average height as 183.9cm. And I agree with those stats from actually living there.
Also, you’re wrong. You just claimed the younger generation are taller, which literally contradicts your original source saying they are 183cm. Yes the younger generation are 183cm, but the their population is getting shorter, probably due to more westernised diet, fast food etc. younger guys are around 183cm, you are right there, but older generation are more 184cm. As I said earlier, even the guardian study showed men born in 80’s averaged 183.9cm.
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In addition to this, a 2009 study, of MEASURED dutch men concluded their final mean average height was 183.8cm.
5’10.25, your source is “CEO world magazine”?
As I said earlier, I have seen some articles put them as high as 186cm, which I clearly also mentioned is absolutely ridiculous, meaning I don’t agree with it, and also they are not credible, much like your source. The most accurate depiction I’ve seen so far, and come from highly credible sources are, The world population review who puts their average height as 183.78cm. And statistics Netherlands puts their overall average height as 183.9cm. And I agree with those stats from actually living there.
Also, you’re wrong. You just claimed the younger generation are taller, which literally contradicts your original source saying they are 183cm. Yes the younger generation are 183cm, but the their population is getting shorter, probably due to more westernised diet, fast food etc. younger guys are around 183cm, you are right there, but older generation are more 184cm. As I said earlier, even the guardian study showed men born in 80’s averaged 183.9cm.
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In addition to this, a 2009 study, of MEASURED dutch men concluded their final mean average height was 183.8cm.
Emil said on 30/Apr/23
@Rob
Not sure if this got through already, but how accurate a measurement do you get if you put the tape or ruler behind your back and then measure your own height by looking in the mirror?
Editor Rob
@Rob
Not sure if this got through already, but how accurate a measurement do you get if you put the tape or ruler behind your back and then measure your own height by looking in the mirror?
Editor RobYou could get a fraction extra, depends also on the mirror in front of you and whether it's straight or not.
Okidoki said on 30/Apr/23
@Poster According to various answers using studies to explain, they said that the mother's height genes to a great extent affect the son's height. There have been questions posed about different scenarios and experiments and the difference between the genders. It's mostly biology and hormones, but also to some degree culture and environment too. how much, is the question though. According to differen sources, it's a difference between races too. Whites are believed to be 80% affected by genes for example, while an other race 60%, i don't remember which one, i think it was Asian. I asked Rob this once and his answer was that even he couldn't quite tell me to what degree. But he told me that diet and activity was likely the factors that affected it the most in childhood and not sleep, as previously thought.
I remember you asked a question recently how much could women's average height grow if the environmental factors are optimal and that you see 5'8 women fairly often now. It's a good question and not really easy to answer, unfortunately. Same for men too i guess, to a certain extent.
Ahh, i see. I guess you mean interms of size and height then? I'll be honest in saying, i have never seen that before in person, only in the media or on tv though, without knowing the situations.
I see, do you mean James situation?
@Poster According to various answers using studies to explain, they said that the mother's height genes to a great extent affect the son's height. There have been questions posed about different scenarios and experiments and the difference between the genders. It's mostly biology and hormones, but also to some degree culture and environment too. how much, is the question though. According to differen sources, it's a difference between races too. Whites are believed to be 80% affected by genes for example, while an other race 60%, i don't remember which one, i think it was Asian. I asked Rob this once and his answer was that even he couldn't quite tell me to what degree. But he told me that diet and activity was likely the factors that affected it the most in childhood and not sleep, as previously thought.
I remember you asked a question recently how much could women's average height grow if the environmental factors are optimal and that you see 5'8 women fairly often now. It's a good question and not really easy to answer, unfortunately. Same for men too i guess, to a certain extent.
Ahh, i see. I guess you mean interms of size and height then? I'll be honest in saying, i have never seen that before in person, only in the media or on tv though, without knowing the situations.
I see, do you mean James situation?
Emil said on 30/Apr/23
@5'10.25"
I get the same impression. I've never been to the Netherlands, but I've seen many Dutch tourists in Copenhagen and met some Dutch people in my personal life as well. At 6'0" I even felt a bit taller than most of them. But my personal bias also affects my perception of course. I just really don't think they're any taller than Scandinavians
@5'10.25"
I get the same impression. I've never been to the Netherlands, but I've seen many Dutch tourists in Copenhagen and met some Dutch people in my personal life as well. At 6'0" I even felt a bit taller than most of them. But my personal bias also affects my perception of course. I just really don't think they're any taller than Scandinavians
Poster said on 29/Apr/23
@James & Okidoki: Oki, Rob didn't post my reply to you, which happens a lot. James, I would post a good reply to you, but I'm not confident that Rob will even post it. I enjoyed your comment, though. Maybe Rob will post THIS one, but who really knows when there are a zillion boring and repetitive ones to fill the board.
@James & Okidoki: Oki, Rob didn't post my reply to you, which happens a lot. James, I would post a good reply to you, but I'm not confident that Rob will even post it. I enjoyed your comment, though. Maybe Rob will post THIS one, but who really knows when there are a zillion boring and repetitive ones to fill the board.
Caleb 178.8cm said on 29/Apr/23
Japan is a very highly developed country but has an average height a couple inches shorter than the USA and UK. Maybe it's because the people there on average don't eat as much as us Americans and Brits? Except for 7ft8-listed Yasutaka Okayama, I haven't heard of any Japanese men taller than 6ft10 or any Japanese women over 6ft3.5.
Japan is a very highly developed country but has an average height a couple inches shorter than the USA and UK. Maybe it's because the people there on average don't eat as much as us Americans and Brits? Except for 7ft8-listed Yasutaka Okayama, I haven't heard of any Japanese men taller than 6ft10 or any Japanese women over 6ft3.5.
Caleb 178.8cm said on 29/Apr/23
I wonder who the shortest person that doesn't have any growth disorder (acromegaly, gigantism, Marfan syndrome, etc.) is.
I wonder who the shortest person that doesn't have any growth disorder (acromegaly, gigantism, Marfan syndrome, etc.) is.
Jdubbz said on 29/Apr/23
@Johan 185 cm
That doesn't really make sense though...If the average is 6'0 roughly, you should see as many 6'8 guys as you do 5'4 guys, and way way more 5'8 guys than either. If you see more 6'8 men than 5'8 men, the average must be way higher than just 6 foot.
@Johan 185 cm
That doesn't really make sense though...If the average is 6'0 roughly, you should see as many 6'8 guys as you do 5'4 guys, and way way more 5'8 guys than either. If you see more 6'8 men than 5'8 men, the average must be way higher than just 6 foot.
adrianjacobs said on 29/Apr/23
@QM6'1.75"QM
I really get the impression that you're "afraid" that you might not be taller than average in some places.
At 6'1.5 (or 6'1.75?) you won't be above average, or at least noticeably so in Stockholm, sorry. Both @Henrik and @John185 can probably attest to that.
@QM6'1.75"QM
I really get the impression that you're "afraid" that you might not be taller than average in some places.
At 6'1.5 (or 6'1.75?) you won't be above average, or at least noticeably so in Stockholm, sorry. Both @Henrik and @John185 can probably attest to that.
5'10.25" said on 29/Apr/23
@Johan 185 cm Yeah I believe anything 181-183 cm range for the Netherlands. maybe more 181 cm general population and 183 cm younger guys.
@Johan 185 cm Yeah I believe anything 181-183 cm range for the Netherlands. maybe more 181 cm general population and 183 cm younger guys.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 29/Apr/23
@Johan 185cm
Hmm, when I went to Holland about 14 years ago most young people were 181-182cm range so I think overall average would be around the 180cm mark. Also, that's absolute rubbish about more 6'8 guys than 5'8 guys, with a strong 5'11 average that's literally impossible. For there to be less 5'8 fellas than 6'8 the average would need to be like 6'3.
@Johan 185cm
Hmm, when I went to Holland about 14 years ago most young people were 181-182cm range so I think overall average would be around the 180cm mark. Also, that's absolute rubbish about more 6'8 guys than 5'8 guys, with a strong 5'11 average that's literally impossible. For there to be less 5'8 fellas than 6'8 the average would need to be like 6'3.
adrianjacobs said on 29/Apr/23
@Johan 185
How can the average be 183 if it's much rarer to see a 5'8 guy than a 6'8 guy? Do you have basic math skills?
@Johan 185
How can the average be 183 if it's much rarer to see a 5'8 guy than a 6'8 guy? Do you have basic math skills?
Big Ben said on 29/Apr/23
adrianjacobs - I can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not 😂 Either way it’s definitely a possibility that age related deterioration can be reduced greatly by the 2060’s
adrianjacobs - I can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not 😂 Either way it’s definitely a possibility that age related deterioration can be reduced greatly by the 2060’s
adrianjacobs said on 29/Apr/23
@El Gato
The two blonde women to the right of me were almost as tall as me. I think you can see that in the photos too.
I was riding the subway the other day and decided to count how many men passing me were taller or shorter than me, and it was 20 out of 31 taller, so literally two thirds taller. 5'11 is not just below average here, it's legit short here.
For some weird reason, out of the few adult swedes shorter than me that I encounter, I see way more men in the 5'7-5'9 range than 5'10-6'0 range. 5'10-6'0 is practically non-existent while 5'7-5'9 is very rare, but does happen. I have no explanation for this but that's my experience.
@El Gato
The two blonde women to the right of me were almost as tall as me. I think you can see that in the photos too.
I was riding the subway the other day and decided to count how many men passing me were taller or shorter than me, and it was 20 out of 31 taller, so literally two thirds taller. 5'11 is not just below average here, it's legit short here.
For some weird reason, out of the few adult swedes shorter than me that I encounter, I see way more men in the 5'7-5'9 range than 5'10-6'0 range. 5'10-6'0 is practically non-existent while 5'7-5'9 is very rare, but does happen. I have no explanation for this but that's my experience.
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