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Sagen said on 14/Oct/22
Im measuring 4mm taller when im standing really straight-not to the point of busting a gut obv- than when i'm standing "normal straight"
what is the correct way of measuring?
Im measuring 4mm taller when im standing really straight-not to the point of busting a gut obv- than when i'm standing "normal straight"
what is the correct way of measuring?
Rapha said on 14/Oct/22
QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Oct/22
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).
I mean any height after 18 is more about ossification as I've say before ;))
@ QM. For me you are a legit 188 cm guy.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Oct/22
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).
I mean any height after 18 is more about ossification as I've say before ;))
@ QM. For me you are a legit 188 cm guy.
Majestic Butterfly said on 13/Oct/22
Here is my chart for the US!
Women:
4'11 and under: very short
5'0-5'1: short
5'2-5'3.0: "shortish", below average
5'3.75-5'4: average range
5'5-5'6: above average
5'7-5'8: borderline tall
5'9-5'11: tall
6'0+: very tall
Men:
4'11-5'4: very short
5'5-5'6: short
5'7-5'8.0: "shortish", below average
5'8.75-5'9: average range
5'10-5'11: above average
6'0-6'1: borderline tall
6'2-6'3: tall
6'4-6'5: very tall
6'6+: extremely tall
You don't have to agree with me but this is just based on statistics and my experience here.
Here is my chart for the US!
Women:
4'11 and under: very short
5'0-5'1: short
5'2-5'3.0: "shortish", below average
5'3.75-5'4: average range
5'5-5'6: above average
5'7-5'8: borderline tall
5'9-5'11: tall
6'0+: very tall
Men:
4'11-5'4: very short
5'5-5'6: short
5'7-5'8.0: "shortish", below average
5'8.75-5'9: average range
5'10-5'11: above average
6'0-6'1: borderline tall
6'2-6'3: tall
6'4-6'5: very tall
6'6+: extremely tall
You don't have to agree with me but this is just based on statistics and my experience here.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 13/Oct/22
@ZDA
Yes I live in the UK and I think it depends on the age group of people. Around elderly guys, I do feel quite tall. I think the average is probably around the 5’7 range for elderly men. But around younger guys I can feel closer to average. I think the average is 5’9.5 for young guys. But I think the overall average in the UK could possibly be around 5’8.5-5’8.75 range, if you include all the ethnic minorities and the age groups.
I think for women, it can be slightly under 5’4.
@ZDA
Yes I live in the UK and I think it depends on the age group of people. Around elderly guys, I do feel quite tall. I think the average is probably around the 5’7 range for elderly men. But around younger guys I can feel closer to average. I think the average is 5’9.5 for young guys. But I think the overall average in the UK could possibly be around 5’8.5-5’8.75 range, if you include all the ethnic minorities and the age groups.
I think for women, it can be slightly under 5’4.
Bobby said on 13/Oct/22
@John777
I would expect from 9-10 inches at a minimum. At most, there is a foot difference.
@John777
I would expect from 9-10 inches at a minimum. At most, there is a foot difference.
Emil said on 13/Oct/22
@Gian 181cm
At 183 cm, I only feel normal tall in some southern European countries (Portugal, Spain and Italy mainly). In other European countries I feel average range.
In Latin America or South East Asia, I've stood out in big crowds though
@Gian 181cm
At 183 cm, I only feel normal tall in some southern European countries (Portugal, Spain and Italy mainly). In other European countries I feel average range.
In Latin America or South East Asia, I've stood out in big crowds though
QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Oct/22
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).
I mean any height after 18 is more about ossification as I've say before ;))
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).
I mean any height after 18 is more about ossification as I've say before ;))
Peter 180cm said on 13/Oct/22
In terms of average height. I'm from Greece and i'd say average in Italy is probably similar,atleast in the southern parts. 175-177cm for young men is solid average and a little less like 174-175 for general population. I also believe most reported avegages are abit stretched as they are generally self-reported and most people claim their height in-shoes or just give a random number(thus probably exaggerating). I always feel above average and sometimes tallish at my height,no matter the situation and the people surrounding me.
In terms of average height. I'm from Greece and i'd say average in Italy is probably similar,atleast in the southern parts. 175-177cm for young men is solid average and a little less like 174-175 for general population. I also believe most reported avegages are abit stretched as they are generally self-reported and most people claim their height in-shoes or just give a random number(thus probably exaggerating). I always feel above average and sometimes tallish at my height,no matter the situation and the people surrounding me.
Big Ben said on 13/Oct/22
Hey @adrianjacobs - I don't know if you saw my reply to you on October 5th but I'll copy paste it for you here:
Big Ben said on 5/Oct/22
@adrianjacobs - Click Here Here’s me with Jimmie Åkesson back in 2019 (when I was a 35 lbs heavier chunky feller). For some reason he’s always slouching when posing with people but when he’s talking to people he has good posture and when he was standing straight I was still a bit taller.
Hey @adrianjacobs - I don't know if you saw my reply to you on October 5th but I'll copy paste it for you here:
Big Ben said on 5/Oct/22
@adrianjacobs - Click Here Here’s me with Jimmie Åkesson back in 2019 (when I was a 35 lbs heavier chunky feller). For some reason he’s always slouching when posing with people but when he’s talking to people he has good posture and when he was standing straight I was still a bit taller.
Bg guy2 said on 13/Oct/22
Rocaway Well since the average 20 years old is 176.9 and maybe falls to 176 till the end of the day.I would say 5ft11 is definitely above average and 5ft6 as the start of short
Rocaway Well since the average 20 years old is 176.9 and maybe falls to 176 till the end of the day.I would say 5ft11 is definitely above average and 5ft6 as the start of short
Poster said on 12/Oct/22
@Meltdown: That sounds about right. That's why Dutch women are taller than Indonesian men. Dutch men are taller than the former, and Indonesian women are shorter than the latter. Ethnicity and region play roles, but your pattern of sex differences is constant if you factor in those variables.
@Meltdown: That sounds about right. That's why Dutch women are taller than Indonesian men. Dutch men are taller than the former, and Indonesian women are shorter than the latter. Ethnicity and region play roles, but your pattern of sex differences is constant if you factor in those variables.
Nik Ashton said on 12/Oct/22
@ Emil - It’s 5’9” in the Uk as Big Rob Paul says. The UK has a lot of tall men these days but there are a lot of short men in the UK these days too.
@ Emil - It’s 5’9” in the Uk as Big Rob Paul says. The UK has a lot of tall men these days but there are a lot of short men in the UK these days too.
John185 said on 12/Oct/22
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 8/Oct/22
@John185
how would you judge 5'9 and 5'10 ?
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@c-mo
5'9 - 5'10 is certainly a decent range, there is something good to be said about average range heights just as there are positive things to say about tall heights.
I think legit 5'10 is quite underrated - sure, it's fairly average in relation to other men in western countries, but in real life it has very balanced proportions whilst simultaneously looking compact. (Not a bad thing especially if joining the military.)
Daniel Craig is a good example of how good 5'10 can potentially look in films.
I also think that with respect to the worldwide average being something around 171cm or 5'8 at most for young men, people who are 5'9 - 5'10 should spend some time in southern and eastern Asia to gain perspective on their height.
5'9/5'10 in Thailand for example is the equivalent of 6'0/6'1 in Europe.
The interesting thing about head size is that there isn't much difference in head size between someone that is 183cm/184cm vs 185cm/186cm. The 1cm to 2cm difference is spread out over leg and torso length as well as head length, but the difference in head size is actually surprisingly noticeable in real life from my observations.
It seems that this range is markedly transitional between balanced tall and lanky overall.
When a person's hair which may contribute ¼ to 1 inch and beard length of a similar amount is factored in, an individual above 184cm/185cm has a head that appears substantially too large in real life.
It is not merely about proportions - aesthetics in relation to head size are not ideal above the 184cm/185cm range.
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 8/Oct/22
@John185
how would you judge 5'9 and 5'10 ?
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@c-mo
5'9 - 5'10 is certainly a decent range, there is something good to be said about average range heights just as there are positive things to say about tall heights.
I think legit 5'10 is quite underrated - sure, it's fairly average in relation to other men in western countries, but in real life it has very balanced proportions whilst simultaneously looking compact. (Not a bad thing especially if joining the military.)
Daniel Craig is a good example of how good 5'10 can potentially look in films.
I also think that with respect to the worldwide average being something around 171cm or 5'8 at most for young men, people who are 5'9 - 5'10 should spend some time in southern and eastern Asia to gain perspective on their height.
5'9/5'10 in Thailand for example is the equivalent of 6'0/6'1 in Europe.
The interesting thing about head size is that there isn't much difference in head size between someone that is 183cm/184cm vs 185cm/186cm. The 1cm to 2cm difference is spread out over leg and torso length as well as head length, but the difference in head size is actually surprisingly noticeable in real life from my observations.
It seems that this range is markedly transitional between balanced tall and lanky overall.
When a person's hair which may contribute ¼ to 1 inch and beard length of a similar amount is factored in, an individual above 184cm/185cm has a head that appears substantially too large in real life.
It is not merely about proportions - aesthetics in relation to head size are not ideal above the 184cm/185cm range.
Gian 181cm said on 12/Oct/22
If the average is 181cm in Sweden at least the guy would be around 187cm to feel tall, maybe 186cm can feel tall/tall-ish on some occasions.
It's funny to imagine countries with an average of 181-182-183cm as I'm used to thinking of countries with an average between 173-178cm, the concept of tall changes totally but still a 183cm guy in Sweden would probably feel tall-ish/tall visiting others countries in Europe and the rest of the world.
If the average is 181cm in Sweden at least the guy would be around 187cm to feel tall, maybe 186cm can feel tall/tall-ish on some occasions.
It's funny to imagine countries with an average of 181-182-183cm as I'm used to thinking of countries with an average between 173-178cm, the concept of tall changes totally but still a 183cm guy in Sweden would probably feel tall-ish/tall visiting others countries in Europe and the rest of the world.
Rapha said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway said on 11/Oct/22
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot
5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant
I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.
IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”
@Rockaway. I agree a 193 cm guy is tall and most people will notice this person because of his height. But here is the point: at 193 cm you are still in a certain height frame where people do not turn around in the streets because of your height. To be considered very tall or unusually tall you need to be 200 cm or above. A Giant would need to be at least 210 cm tall, thats 35 cm standard deviation from the average, in the opposite direction it would be a height of 140 cm to be considered a dwarf for males. A guy like Dany de Vito is very short but not a dwarf for me.
Rockaway said on 11/Oct/22
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot
5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant
I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.
IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”
@Rockaway. I agree a 193 cm guy is tall and most people will notice this person because of his height. But here is the point: at 193 cm you are still in a certain height frame where people do not turn around in the streets because of your height. To be considered very tall or unusually tall you need to be 200 cm or above. A Giant would need to be at least 210 cm tall, thats 35 cm standard deviation from the average, in the opposite direction it would be a height of 140 cm to be considered a dwarf for males. A guy like Dany de Vito is very short but not a dwarf for me.
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 12/Oct/22
agree Bobby . 177cm at low is solid average even for younger men
agree Bobby . 177cm at low is solid average even for younger men
Rockaway said on 12/Oct/22
Sorry if I offended you. It is not a joke. Please re-read the title of my post... Curious what you would have 5'11 and 5'6 as for 18-50 y/o in USA? Lol..
"@Bg guy2 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway is that a joke really? 5ft8short? 5ft11 a little above average ? 5ft6 very short? I think most people here will laugh at you a lot"
Sorry if I offended you. It is not a joke. Please re-read the title of my post... Curious what you would have 5'11 and 5'6 as for 18-50 y/o in USA? Lol..
"@Bg guy2 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway is that a joke really? 5ft8short? 5ft11 a little above average ? 5ft6 very short? I think most people here will laugh at you a lot"
ZDA said on 12/Oct/22
@ Maahin Chowdhury
I’m surprised you feel noticeably above average or tallish at 5 ft 10, normally those who are 5 ft 11 feel that way.
I assume you live in the U.K.? In this case, is the average really 5 ft 9? More like 5 ft 8.5? I feel 5 ft 10 guys will only feel above average if the average is 5 ft 8.5. 1.5 inches above average is the beginning of “feeling noticeably” above average.
Seems as though the prospect of U.K. average of 5 ft 9 is unlikely, maybe late morning.
@ Maahin Chowdhury
I’m surprised you feel noticeably above average or tallish at 5 ft 10, normally those who are 5 ft 11 feel that way.
I assume you live in the U.K.? In this case, is the average really 5 ft 9? More like 5 ft 8.5? I feel 5 ft 10 guys will only feel above average if the average is 5 ft 8.5. 1.5 inches above average is the beginning of “feeling noticeably” above average.
Seems as though the prospect of U.K. average of 5 ft 9 is unlikely, maybe late morning.
ZDA said on 12/Oct/22
Look how d¥mb @rockaway height chart is.
In his case, 5 ft 10 is “average” whereas 5 ft 8 is “short”, but 6 ft is only “above average”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LMAOO
Look how d¥mb @rockaway height chart is.
In his case, 5 ft 10 is “average” whereas 5 ft 8 is “short”, but 6 ft is only “above average”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LMAOO
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 12/Oct/22
@Emil
Overall average for men is 5'9. Even young people are under 5'10, the average for young people is a measured 177.5cm. Now, this is likely done earlier in the day than evening so in reality the average is closer to a flat 177cm. Probably around the 5'9.75 mark.
@Emil
Overall average for men is 5'9. Even young people are under 5'10, the average for young people is a measured 177.5cm. Now, this is likely done earlier in the day than evening so in reality the average is closer to a flat 177cm. Probably around the 5'9.75 mark.
Bg guy2 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway is that a joke really? 5ft8short? 5ft11 a little above average ? 5ft6 very short? I think most people here will laugh at you a lot
Rockaway is that a joke really? 5ft8short? 5ft11 a little above average ? 5ft6 very short? I think most people here will laugh at you a lot
Leesheff1985 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway how can you have five six as very short but six foot as start of tall makes no sense as both are three inches away from the average height in opposite directions. If six foot is the start of tall five six is the start of short not very short I never feel very short
Rockaway how can you have five six as very short but six foot as start of tall makes no sense as both are three inches away from the average height in opposite directions. If six foot is the start of tall five six is the start of short not very short I never feel very short
Progking185 said on 11/Oct/22
@bgguy2 yeah your chart is good, 6'0 is one of the tallest around like in a small room, but in a crowd it can be more tallish at times. I think because of young guys 6'1+ is tall in more settings. 6'3+ is usually one of the few tallest around. I would say its borderline very tall and standout as its about 5 inches above the young average, at least in Canada and U.S. 6'3.5 maybe is start of very tall. For example I just remember in some of my big classes in university usually there was just like 1 or two 6'3-6'4 guys, a rare 6'6-6'7 guy, and the rest shorter. There were a good amount 6'0-6'2 where it feels decently tall but not really standout
@bgguy2 yeah your chart is good, 6'0 is one of the tallest around like in a small room, but in a crowd it can be more tallish at times. I think because of young guys 6'1+ is tall in more settings. 6'3+ is usually one of the few tallest around. I would say its borderline very tall and standout as its about 5 inches above the young average, at least in Canada and U.S. 6'3.5 maybe is start of very tall. For example I just remember in some of my big classes in university usually there was just like 1 or two 6'3-6'4 guys, a rare 6'6-6'7 guy, and the rest shorter. There were a good amount 6'0-6'2 where it feels decently tall but not really standout
Bobby said on 11/Oct/22
@Meltdown
In my case, I'm a genuine 5'10 guy but people think I'm taller because they claim to be my height.
@Meltdown
In my case, I'm a genuine 5'10 guy but people think I'm taller because they claim to be my height.
ZDA said on 11/Oct/22
@meltdown
From late morning to evening on average we shrink another fraction 1cm, so young white guys are 5 ft 9.5 range 176.5-177 cm. I go by evening/low height as I feel that’s our real height at the end of the day.
I have no problems with your opinions or others, if you go by the cdc morning height statistics where young non Hispanic white guys are 5 ft 10 then that’s fine.
@meltdown
From late morning to evening on average we shrink another fraction 1cm, so young white guys are 5 ft 9.5 range 176.5-177 cm. I go by evening/low height as I feel that’s our real height at the end of the day.
I have no problems with your opinions or others, if you go by the cdc morning height statistics where young non Hispanic white guys are 5 ft 10 then that’s fine.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 11/Oct/22
Any idea on David earl Rob? From Derek, after life and his new film Brian and Charles. I think he looks like a 5'10 guy maybe 5'10.25.
Editor Rob
Any idea on David earl Rob? From Derek, after life and his new film Brian and Charles. I think he looks like a 5'10 guy maybe 5'10.25.
Editor RobNot really seen much of him
Bobby said on 11/Oct/22
@dreus23
I wouldn't call 177 cm a low average, I'd say that's a solid average height for men. The difference between 174 cm and 177 cm is 3 cm, and while it may not sound like a lot, it is. I am 178 cm (overall) and if I were 3 cm taller, I would be 181 cm or 5'11.25. If I were 5'11.25, I'd feel the difference. So, likewise, if you went from 174 cm (5'8.5) to 177 cm (5'9.7 - slight round-up from 5'9.68), you would feel taller than you were before.
In conclusion, I disagree with your chart. Your ranges for categories are too broad. I know this is based in Sweden, but here in Canada, you would be the average height at 177 cm.
@dreus23
I wouldn't call 177 cm a low average, I'd say that's a solid average height for men. The difference between 174 cm and 177 cm is 3 cm, and while it may not sound like a lot, it is. I am 178 cm (overall) and if I were 3 cm taller, I would be 181 cm or 5'11.25. If I were 5'11.25, I'd feel the difference. So, likewise, if you went from 174 cm (5'8.5) to 177 cm (5'9.7 - slight round-up from 5'9.68), you would feel taller than you were before.
In conclusion, I disagree with your chart. Your ranges for categories are too broad. I know this is based in Sweden, but here in Canada, you would be the average height at 177 cm.
Matt99 said on 11/Oct/22
@adrianposter you seem to forget that there’s only a few thousand celebrity listings whilst the “normal average” constitutes to an entire national population.
@adrianposter you seem to forget that there’s only a few thousand celebrity listings whilst the “normal average” constitutes to an entire national population.
Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Meltodwn get out of here wich statistics????The average height in uk and us is 5ft9 and in many european countries including bulgaria.We dont compare it to the netherlands and others abnormal countries that are exceptions
Meltodwn get out of here wich statistics????The average height in uk and us is 5ft9 and in many european countries including bulgaria.We dont compare it to the netherlands and others abnormal countries that are exceptions
adrianjacobs said on 11/Oct/22
@dreus23 Come on man, you can't seriously call 182cm "kinda tall" for a man in Sweden. I wouldn't even call it very tall for a woman. What part of the country do you live in?
@dreus23 Come on man, you can't seriously call 182cm "kinda tall" for a man in Sweden. I wouldn't even call it very tall for a woman. What part of the country do you live in?
Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Dreus But swedish average is taller than most so maybe 177 is low average there but in uk us and bulgaria its solid average
Dreus But swedish average is taller than most so maybe 177 is low average there but in uk us and bulgaria its solid average
Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Dreus 177 cm low average but 182 cm kinda tall?Thats not how it goes brother
Dreus 177 cm low average but 182 cm kinda tall?Thats not how it goes brother
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 11/Oct/22
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ eclipse said on 8/Oct/22
My peak morning height is 5ft 10 or slightly higher. My lowest is 5ft 9.25 or slightly lower. Most of the day I am 5ft9.5 and I still claim "5ft 10" or "just under 5ft 10." I only claim 5ft 9.5 when I am literally comparing with someone in conversation and getting into detail.
There are too many 5ft 8 dudes who claim 5ft 10 because they want women to like them, so I can't afford to deprive myself of my morning height. People already think 5ft 10 is much shorter than it actually is.
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i agree with you . i am around your height ...i am a little above 5'10 fresh out of bed and 5'9.7 - 5'9.75 1 hour after being awake . and i can fall a little bit below 176cm at night like 175.7cm on hard days . and i claim 177cm because i am 176.8cm 2 hours out of bed . sometimes even 177cm . depending on activity
i also brought the argument that i think it is nonsense to claim your low height and to neglect morning height because of the fact that there are so many men lying about their height and claim a height taller than they are (some also dont know their real height and just claim a number they think they are even though they are not) ...so why should i claim my low ? and this is only one reason why i think not to ....
this is not being "honest" or "modest" in my opinion....this is being pointlessly honest or modest and almost naive IMO . no offense to anybody . i respect anybodies opinion who disagrees with me and who wants to claim their low . no problem with that . but i have been given sh*t here because i said i am 5'9.5 instead of "just a 5'9 guy" .
also there are some users here who get offended and triggered when i adviced some users to claim a certain height (for example if someone is 180cm in the morning and 178cm at night and claims 178cm i said he should claim 179cm etc.) because they love to round down their own height . but at the same time they would tell other users to claim a height ...and yeah you guessed it ...they tell them to claim their low or even rounded down height
double standards . i stopped arguing with these people though since it is pointless . you will find such people pretty much everywhere . critizising others for something but do the same just in a different color and sell it as sugar
but anyway i hope nobody gets triggered by this post . i have no time and no nerves to argue again so dont quote me on this
but to get back on topic in my opinion claiming a height you are 2-3 hours out of bed and if needed rounded up is the best . like if you are 178cm after 2 hours being awake claim that . if you are 172.7cm after 2-3 hours then just claim 173cm etc
think about it . when you wake up you will take like 1 hour to get ready to leave the house for work or school . and then you will be among people after 2-3 hours after waking up and will be right in everyday life dynamics .
i never saw the point of "oh you are 179.6cm out of bed and 177.2cm at night after a long day ? just say 177cm"
like nope ...not gonna happen . but to each their own
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ eclipse said on 8/Oct/22
My peak morning height is 5ft 10 or slightly higher. My lowest is 5ft 9.25 or slightly lower. Most of the day I am 5ft9.5 and I still claim "5ft 10" or "just under 5ft 10." I only claim 5ft 9.5 when I am literally comparing with someone in conversation and getting into detail.
There are too many 5ft 8 dudes who claim 5ft 10 because they want women to like them, so I can't afford to deprive myself of my morning height. People already think 5ft 10 is much shorter than it actually is.
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i agree with you . i am around your height ...i am a little above 5'10 fresh out of bed and 5'9.7 - 5'9.75 1 hour after being awake . and i can fall a little bit below 176cm at night like 175.7cm on hard days . and i claim 177cm because i am 176.8cm 2 hours out of bed . sometimes even 177cm . depending on activity
i also brought the argument that i think it is nonsense to claim your low height and to neglect morning height because of the fact that there are so many men lying about their height and claim a height taller than they are (some also dont know their real height and just claim a number they think they are even though they are not) ...so why should i claim my low ? and this is only one reason why i think not to ....
this is not being "honest" or "modest" in my opinion....this is being pointlessly honest or modest and almost naive IMO . no offense to anybody . i respect anybodies opinion who disagrees with me and who wants to claim their low . no problem with that . but i have been given sh*t here because i said i am 5'9.5 instead of "just a 5'9 guy" .
also there are some users here who get offended and triggered when i adviced some users to claim a certain height (for example if someone is 180cm in the morning and 178cm at night and claims 178cm i said he should claim 179cm etc.) because they love to round down their own height . but at the same time they would tell other users to claim a height ...and yeah you guessed it ...they tell them to claim their low or even rounded down height
double standards . i stopped arguing with these people though since it is pointless . you will find such people pretty much everywhere . critizising others for something but do the same just in a different color and sell it as sugar
but anyway i hope nobody gets triggered by this post . i have no time and no nerves to argue again so dont quote me on this
but to get back on topic in my opinion claiming a height you are 2-3 hours out of bed and if needed rounded up is the best . like if you are 178cm after 2 hours being awake claim that . if you are 172.7cm after 2-3 hours then just claim 173cm etc
think about it . when you wake up you will take like 1 hour to get ready to leave the house for work or school . and then you will be among people after 2-3 hours after waking up and will be right in everyday life dynamics .
i never saw the point of "oh you are 179.6cm out of bed and 177.2cm at night after a long day ? just say 177cm"
like nope ...not gonna happen . but to each their own
Rockaway said on 11/Oct/22
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot
5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant
I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.
IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot
5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant
I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.
IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”
John777 said on 11/Oct/22
If the top of your head is on someone shoulder, how much taller is the person than you
If the top of your head is on someone shoulder, how much taller is the person than you
jokey said on 11/Oct/22
adrianposter said on 9/Oct/22
What really confuses me is how the average on this website for men is listed at 5’10.75” which is higher than the normal average.
There are a lot of soccer and basketball players who are 7 foot to 6'7
adrianposter said on 9/Oct/22
What really confuses me is how the average on this website for men is listed at 5’10.75” which is higher than the normal average.
There are a lot of soccer and basketball players who are 7 foot to 6'7
IceCold1 said on 11/Oct/22
I laughts at people, who's saying 6'3-6'4 is a giant. To be fair, a legit giant would be at least 8ft by human standarts.
I laughts at people, who's saying 6'3-6'4 is a giant. To be fair, a legit giant would be at least 8ft by human standarts.
Arch Stanton said on 11/Oct/22
adrianposter said on 9/Oct/22
What really confuses me is how the average on this website for men is listed at 5’10.75” which is higher than the normal average. Are celebrities just taller on average?
I suspect it's higher than average because Rob has cherry picked a few individuals over 6 ft 6 who are really notable for their heights. People like Mark Eaton, Shawn Bradley, Yao Ming, Dutch Giant, Khali and Ian Whyte etc are going to help bump up the average. Also there's a lot of male actors over 6 ft which people might want to know their height so they get listed, bumping up the average. Though there's also a few very short individuals on here too.
adrianposter said on 9/Oct/22
What really confuses me is how the average on this website for men is listed at 5’10.75” which is higher than the normal average. Are celebrities just taller on average?
I suspect it's higher than average because Rob has cherry picked a few individuals over 6 ft 6 who are really notable for their heights. People like Mark Eaton, Shawn Bradley, Yao Ming, Dutch Giant, Khali and Ian Whyte etc are going to help bump up the average. Also there's a lot of male actors over 6 ft which people might want to know their height so they get listed, bumping up the average. Though there's also a few very short individuals on here too.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 11/Oct/22
John 185@ I’m legit 5.11 3/4 and occasionally feel a little tall, I’ve been called tall more than a few times in my life but a lot of the time I feel average or below average, I’d agree with you though and say there are a lot of good looking people facially in the 5.11 - 6.1 range but I can see why people say under 6ft is short ( even though it isn’t) go to any supermarket at my height you aren’t going to feel very tall among the rest of the guys
John 185@ I’m legit 5.11 3/4 and occasionally feel a little tall, I’ve been called tall more than a few times in my life but a lot of the time I feel average or below average, I’d agree with you though and say there are a lot of good looking people facially in the 5.11 - 6.1 range but I can see why people say under 6ft is short ( even though it isn’t) go to any supermarket at my height you aren’t going to feel very tall among the rest of the guys
Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Rob I think many people think 5ft8 as short because people listed here as 5ft8looks like absolute dwarfs.People like mane and salah! Got me thinking is that the proportions of a 5ft8 guys if that so i understand why people see them as that!
Rob I think many people think 5ft8 as short because people listed here as 5ft8looks like absolute dwarfs.People like mane and salah! Got me thinking is that the proportions of a 5ft8 guys if that so i understand why people see them as that!
adrianjacobs said on 11/Oct/22
@adrianposter He's from Scandinavia. Scandinavians always downplay height, especially swedes
@adrianposter He's from Scandinavia. Scandinavians always downplay height, especially swedes
Poster said on 10/Oct/22
@Jdubzz: I'm not angry. It's just common sense that many people, in the real world, would see 5'1 women as very short. It's at the 9th percentile, which is very short. You or I could use arbitrary stats to label that height as "short" or "very short", but the vast majority of people don't think in terms of standard deviations, but it's a moot point because you obviously lack the intelligence to grasp what I'm saying.
@Jdubzz: I'm not angry. It's just common sense that many people, in the real world, would see 5'1 women as very short. It's at the 9th percentile, which is very short. You or I could use arbitrary stats to label that height as "short" or "very short", but the vast majority of people don't think in terms of standard deviations, but it's a moot point because you obviously lack the intelligence to grasp what I'm saying.
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 10/Oct/22
I agree as someone who is around 1.84 m. 183.5cm-184 cm is definitely tallish, but to feel solidly tall almost all the time, I think it'd be more like 186 cm-188 cm. 180-181cm is a bit above average, 182 can be considered the start of 'tallish'.
I agree as someone who is around 1.84 m. 183.5cm-184 cm is definitely tallish, but to feel solidly tall almost all the time, I think it'd be more like 186 cm-188 cm. 180-181cm is a bit above average, 182 can be considered the start of 'tallish'.
Alex 6'0 said on 10/Oct/22
Progking, we're a fraction apart. I feel tall good amount of time but it really depends where I'm at. In any larger crowds i won't feel it. 6'0 will always feel tall around majority women and below average height guys.
Progking, we're a fraction apart. I feel tall good amount of time but it really depends where I'm at. In any larger crowds i won't feel it. 6'0 will always feel tall around majority women and below average height guys.
Alex 6'0 said on 10/Oct/22
6'1.5 160 on a full grown man is pretty slim. I think at least 180-185 is good
6'1.5 160 on a full grown man is pretty slim. I think at least 180-185 is good
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 10/Oct/22
Rob, there seem to be issues with comments loading/access to posting comments or even the webpage loading at times...Do you know what might be happening?
Editor Rob
Rob, there seem to be issues with comments loading/access to posting comments or even the webpage loading at times...Do you know what might be happening?
Editor RobI will check to see if your ISP has been caught up in an IP range block, which is most likely cause of a site not loading.
Bobby said on 10/Oct/22
@Jdubbz
In fairness, a 5'8 woman is the equivalent of a 6'1 guy, so that's tall. This means that 5'4 should be the average height of a woman. It also means that 5'9 should be the average height of a man. I suppose if we subtract four inches below those heights, then it would mean we're getting into pretty short territory for either sex.
I guess from your perspective, being 6'6-range, 6'1 doesn't look that tall to you since you're five inches taller. It's like me standing next to a 5'5 guy who would look pretty short from my perspective.
@Jdubbz
In fairness, a 5'8 woman is the equivalent of a 6'1 guy, so that's tall. This means that 5'4 should be the average height of a woman. It also means that 5'9 should be the average height of a man. I suppose if we subtract four inches below those heights, then it would mean we're getting into pretty short territory for either sex.
I guess from your perspective, being 6'6-range, 6'1 doesn't look that tall to you since you're five inches taller. It's like me standing next to a 5'5 guy who would look pretty short from my perspective.
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ Michael 181 said on 6/Oct/22
That's interesting. I always find it absurd when the doctor measures me, then cuts an arbitrary amount of height from the result. Really, you're cutting a full inch off my low tops footwear that's less than 3/4s of an inch? The same amount as someone's 3 inch boots? Ridiculous! I do think they should have controlled studies where 1000+ everyday men over age 20 are measured straight out of bed after sleeping for 8 hours uninterrupted, and then again a couple hours later to record their typical day-time height.
@ Michael 181 said on 6/Oct/22
That's interesting. I always find it absurd when the doctor measures me, then cuts an arbitrary amount of height from the result. Really, you're cutting a full inch off my low tops footwear that's less than 3/4s of an inch? The same amount as someone's 3 inch boots? Ridiculous! I do think they should have controlled studies where 1000+ everyday men over age 20 are measured straight out of bed after sleeping for 8 hours uninterrupted, and then again a couple hours later to record their typical day-time height.
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ Poster said on 6/Oct/22
On average, women are 5 to 5.5 inches shorter than men of the same race. For much shorter heights, men can be 4.5 inches taller than women, and for much taller heights, men can be 6–7 inches taller or more.
When you average it all out, the typical woman is about 5.25 inches shorter than the avg man. So as a woman, you would be 5.25 inches taller, and women 5.25 inches shorter than you would be exactly your height if they were men.
@ Poster said on 6/Oct/22
On average, women are 5 to 5.5 inches shorter than men of the same race. For much shorter heights, men can be 4.5 inches taller than women, and for much taller heights, men can be 6–7 inches taller or more.
When you average it all out, the typical woman is about 5.25 inches shorter than the avg man. So as a woman, you would be 5.25 inches taller, and women 5.25 inches shorter than you would be exactly your height if they were men.
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ eclipse said on 8/Oct/22
My peak morning height is 5ft 10 or slightly higher. My lowest is 5ft 9.25 or slightly lower. Most of the day I am 5ft9.5 and I still claim "5ft 10" or "just under 5ft 10." I only claim 5ft 9.5 when I am literally comparing with someone in conversation and getting into detail.
There are too many 5ft 8 dudes who claim 5ft 10 because they want women to like them, so I can't afford to deprive myself of my morning height. People already think 5ft 10 is much shorter than it actually is.
@ eclipse said on 8/Oct/22
My peak morning height is 5ft 10 or slightly higher. My lowest is 5ft 9.25 or slightly lower. Most of the day I am 5ft9.5 and I still claim "5ft 10" or "just under 5ft 10." I only claim 5ft 9.5 when I am literally comparing with someone in conversation and getting into detail.
There are too many 5ft 8 dudes who claim 5ft 10 because they want women to like them, so I can't afford to deprive myself of my morning height. People already think 5ft 10 is much shorter than it actually is.
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ ZDA said on 8/Oct/22
When the CDC says measurements are done in the morning, they mean in the AM, not straight out of bed. By the time the volunteers get measured anywhere except their own home, are bound to have already lost half or very close to half an inch.
As a general rule, about half the height you lose in the entire day happens in your first 45–60 minutes of being out and about. So if average height is 5ft 10, that means out-of-bed height was close to 5ft10.5.
@ ZDA said on 8/Oct/22
When the CDC says measurements are done in the morning, they mean in the AM, not straight out of bed. By the time the volunteers get measured anywhere except their own home, are bound to have already lost half or very close to half an inch.
As a general rule, about half the height you lose in the entire day happens in your first 45–60 minutes of being out and about. So if average height is 5ft 10, that means out-of-bed height was close to 5ft10.5.
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ Bg guy2 said on 8/Oct/22
My chart matches statistics. Find i from several days ago. Yours is way off.
5ft 7 in western countries is legit short. 5ft 9 is definitely not bang-on average. Bang-on average is minimum 5ft 9.5 and in some cases 5ft 10+. Stop blindly guessing and actually study the data first.
@ Bg guy2 said on 8/Oct/22
My chart matches statistics. Find i from several days ago. Yours is way off.
5ft 7 in western countries is legit short. 5ft 9 is definitely not bang-on average. Bang-on average is minimum 5ft 9.5 and in some cases 5ft 10+. Stop blindly guessing and actually study the data first.
dreus23 said on 9/Oct/22
@Bg guy2
It's decent, although I'm pretty sure we're from different countries as I don't agree entirely
My height chart in Sweden would be:
164 cm and under: Really short
165-168: Short
169-173: Shortish, "below average"
174-177: Low average
178-181: Solid average
182-184: Kinda tall, Definitely above average
185-187: Tall
188-191: The tall guy
192-195: Unusually tall
196 and over: Gigantic or Massive
With that said, this can vary a lot depending on social groups and whatnot. The other day in my school I witnessed a friend group where the shortest guy was like 185 cm and the tallest guy looked 195 cm and seemed to blend in really well as slightly above average. But generally, walking around the street or taking public transport, I feel this is pretty accurate
@Bg guy2
It's decent, although I'm pretty sure we're from different countries as I don't agree entirely
My height chart in Sweden would be:
164 cm and under: Really short
165-168: Short
169-173: Shortish, "below average"
174-177: Low average
178-181: Solid average
182-184: Kinda tall, Definitely above average
185-187: Tall
188-191: The tall guy
192-195: Unusually tall
196 and over: Gigantic or Massive
With that said, this can vary a lot depending on social groups and whatnot. The other day in my school I witnessed a friend group where the shortest guy was like 185 cm and the tallest guy looked 195 cm and seemed to blend in really well as slightly above average. But generally, walking around the street or taking public transport, I feel this is pretty accurate
Sandy Cowell said on 9/Oct/22
Hi Rob!
Please could we have a page for musician Jeff Wayne, who looks between 5ft7 and 5ft7.5 to me.
I’m watching his production of War of the Worlds, and his dancing around on stage as he conducts his orchestra makes for a real feel-good viewing experience.
Thanks Rob!
Hi Rob!
Please could we have a page for musician Jeff Wayne, who looks between 5ft7 and 5ft7.5 to me.
I’m watching his production of War of the Worlds, and his dancing around on stage as he conducts his orchestra makes for a real feel-good viewing experience.
Thanks Rob!
TL said on 9/Oct/22
Hey Rob what do you think the heel height for these are? Click Here
Editor Rob
Hey Rob what do you think the heel height for these are? Click Here
Editor RobDoubt it's less than 1.5 inch range
MattDubz6 said on 9/Oct/22
Rob, what weight would you say is the line between slim and average for a 6’0-6’1 guy, assuming an average frame and muscle/fat distribution?
Rob, what weight would you say is the line between slim and average for a 6’0-6’1 guy, assuming an average frame and muscle/fat distribution?
adrianposter said on 9/Oct/22
What really confuses me is how the average on this website for men is listed at 5’10.75” which is higher than the normal average. Are celebrities just taller on average?
What really confuses me is how the average on this website for men is listed at 5’10.75” which is higher than the normal average. Are celebrities just taller on average?
Korean said on 9/Oct/22
@Bg guy2
please explain 6'1 and 6'2 separately
im 6'1 but 6'2 feels quite tall!
@Bg guy2
please explain 6'1 and 6'2 separately
im 6'1 but 6'2 feels quite tall!
Maahin Chowdhury said on 8/Oct/22
@Bg guy2
I’ll put 6’0-6’2 in the same category as a standard tall height. Same with 5’10-5’11 being above average and 5’7-5’8 being below average. I agree with 6’3 being the start of very tall and 5’6 being the start of short. You made a good height chart overall.
@Bg guy2
I’ll put 6’0-6’2 in the same category as a standard tall height. Same with 5’10-5’11 being above average and 5’7-5’8 being below average. I agree with 6’3 being the start of very tall and 5’6 being the start of short. You made a good height chart overall.
ZDA said on 8/Oct/22
@bg guy2
I agree
@bg guy2
I agree
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 8/Oct/22
@John185
how would you judge 5'9 and 5'10 ?
@John185
how would you judge 5'9 and 5'10 ?
dreus23 said on 8/Oct/22
@John185
Definitely agreed, anything in the 5'11-6'1 range is pretty much optimal if you want to sometimes "feel tall" but not stand out in crowds. Being 6'2 or over really is a hit or miss and it really varies how well people pull it off
Also, speaking of arms, my dad has a really impressive wingspan at 182-183 cm for his either 171 or 173 cm peak height. He also has a 32" inseam. He started drinking and smoking excessively at around 13 years old, so in his case I genuinely think he could've stunted his growth. Last time I measured I wasn't even close to my dad's wingspan, but I do have a 32-33" inseam
@John185
Definitely agreed, anything in the 5'11-6'1 range is pretty much optimal if you want to sometimes "feel tall" but not stand out in crowds. Being 6'2 or over really is a hit or miss and it really varies how well people pull it off
Also, speaking of arms, my dad has a really impressive wingspan at 182-183 cm for his either 171 or 173 cm peak height. He also has a 32" inseam. He started drinking and smoking excessively at around 13 years old, so in his case I genuinely think he could've stunted his growth. Last time I measured I wasn't even close to my dad's wingspan, but I do have a 32-33" inseam
Progking185 said on 8/Oct/22
@ZDA yeah it could be in the 176 range at evening. Which is why I think 184-185 is quite tall already in most cases for young white guys. I am 184 range evening and most of the time feel start of tall around them, sometimes tallish of course as its not that far from average. You have to be around 10 cm taller than average to feel more solidly tall.
@Bg guy2 yeah I agree with this generally
@ZDA yeah it could be in the 176 range at evening. Which is why I think 184-185 is quite tall already in most cases for young white guys. I am 184 range evening and most of the time feel start of tall around them, sometimes tallish of course as its not that far from average. You have to be around 10 cm taller than average to feel more solidly tall.
@Bg guy2 yeah I agree with this generally
Jdubbz said on 8/Oct/22
@ vY said on 6/Oct/22
Do you guys think 160 pounds at 6’1.5 is super skinny?
Not super skinny, but definitely skinnier than average for that height. According to BMI it’s in the healthy range, so no worries.
@ vY said on 6/Oct/22
Do you guys think 160 pounds at 6’1.5 is super skinny?
Not super skinny, but definitely skinnier than average for that height. According to BMI it’s in the healthy range, so no worries.
Jdubbz said on 8/Oct/22
@Poster:
Why are you so angry though? That’s such a weirdly aggressive reaction considering how mundane this topic is. If you think that being 4” below average compared to a certain population is very short, be my guest. I guess 5’8 women and 6’1 guys are “very tall” now, lol.
The statistics don’t support your claims, but whatever. I guess empirical evidence is “anal” when your entire argument is flawed and has nothing to support it. What you “feel” is always the correct answer, right? You strike me as the kind of person who is incapable of having a reasonable discussion without stooping to insults, so I’m done. Bye.
@Poster:
Why are you so angry though? That’s such a weirdly aggressive reaction considering how mundane this topic is. If you think that being 4” below average compared to a certain population is very short, be my guest. I guess 5’8 women and 6’1 guys are “very tall” now, lol.
The statistics don’t support your claims, but whatever. I guess empirical evidence is “anal” when your entire argument is flawed and has nothing to support it. What you “feel” is always the correct answer, right? You strike me as the kind of person who is incapable of having a reasonable discussion without stooping to insults, so I’m done. Bye.
Zach Catselbow said on 8/Oct/22
Hey Rob, how accurate are the CDC’s heights at certain percentiles? Are these heights according to morning, lunch, or evening measurements?
Editor Rob
Hey Rob, how accurate are the CDC’s heights at certain percentiles? Are these heights according to morning, lunch, or evening measurements?
Editor RobI don't know the exact details. With the similar UK study, a lot of the participants were visited at home between 9-5 and took part in the survery and any measurements, so you'd think for UK the average would be at least a few hours after breakfast.
Bg guy2 said on 8/Oct/22
Guys do you agree with my height chart:
5ft6 and below short
5ft7 is shortish height but not enough to be viewed as short
5ft8 is low average height
5ft9is bang on average
5ft10 higher average but still very average looking
5ft11 is tallish but is not a tall height
6ft this is the beginning of tall where you will blend in but for sure be one of the tallest guys in the room
6ft1-2 a tall heights no doubt the higher it goes the more obvious will be that you are the tall guy
6ft3 and higher is standout
Guys do you agree with my height chart:
5ft6 and below short
5ft7 is shortish height but not enough to be viewed as short
5ft8 is low average height
5ft9is bang on average
5ft10 higher average but still very average looking
5ft11 is tallish but is not a tall height
6ft this is the beginning of tall where you will blend in but for sure be one of the tallest guys in the room
6ft1-2 a tall heights no doubt the higher it goes the more obvious will be that you are the tall guy
6ft3 and higher is standout
ZDA said on 8/Oct/22
According to the cdc height statistics if you go to page 7, non Hispanic white guys struggles to reach 5 ft 10 at 177.4 cm. The cdc height measurements was conducted in the morning so easily 176.4 cm by evening. 5 ft 9.4.
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According to the cdc height statistics if you go to page 7, non Hispanic white guys struggles to reach 5 ft 10 at 177.4 cm. The cdc height measurements was conducted in the morning so easily 176.4 cm by evening. 5 ft 9.4.
Click Here
Emil said on 8/Oct/22
@bgh
Agreed. Maybe 5'10 if you include 18-year-olds and the older men too, but I'd be surprised if average height for 20-34 year old is less than 5'11.5. Average height for Danish 20-year-old men is 181.9 cm these days, and I doubt Dutch men are shorter than that
@bgh
Agreed. Maybe 5'10 if you include 18-year-olds and the older men too, but I'd be surprised if average height for 20-34 year old is less than 5'11.5. Average height for Danish 20-year-old men is 181.9 cm these days, and I doubt Dutch men are shorter than that
Alex 6'0 said on 8/Oct/22
Netherlands i read was 6'0.5 but prob for young guys. Overall id think 6'0 or at least 5'11.5
Netherlands i read was 6'0.5 but prob for young guys. Overall id think 6'0 or at least 5'11.5
James B 172cm said on 8/Oct/22
I think a lot of women go weak at the knees for a 6ft4/6ft5 guy
I think a lot of women go weak at the knees for a 6ft4/6ft5 guy
Michael 181 said on 8/Oct/22
Average for the Netherlands is about 5’11.5 but it is closer to 5’11 in the cities and the south and closer to 6’ in the north. The north have Frisian genetics which are much taller than standard Dutch/German/danish height genes, and Frisians were known to be very tall people even 1000 years ago. Non-Frisian Dutch are NOT especially tall.
Average for the Netherlands is about 5’11.5 but it is closer to 5’11 in the cities and the south and closer to 6’ in the north. The north have Frisian genetics which are much taller than standard Dutch/German/danish height genes, and Frisians were known to be very tall people even 1000 years ago. Non-Frisian Dutch are NOT especially tall.
eclipse said on 8/Oct/22
Hey Rob, I work as a construction worker and I measured my height after an extremely tiring day at work and measured as low as 176.3 or around 5’9.4, which is my lowest I’ve gone so far, I hit my extreme low much faster with this job, do you think I can still claim a weak 5’10 since on normal days I’m around 5’9.8-5’9.9?
Editor Rob
Hey Rob, I work as a construction worker and I measured my height after an extremely tiring day at work and measured as low as 176.3 or around 5’9.4, which is my lowest I’ve gone so far, I hit my extreme low much faster with this job, do you think I can still claim a weak 5’10 since on normal days I’m around 5’9.8-5’9.9?
Editor RobYou could still claim almost 5ft 10.
Poster said on 7/Oct/22
@Jdubzz: Huh, yourself. It's not confusing. 5'1 women are seen as very short in many places. Most people don't know or care about exact stats in the real world, and no one said that white women were giantesses. You're silly if you think that the vast majority of normal and ordinary people are as anal as you and other people. They see a 5'1 woman, and they call her "very short". They won't say this in all locations, of course. Most people don't have to look at statistics to see what they see.
@Jdubzz: Huh, yourself. It's not confusing. 5'1 women are seen as very short in many places. Most people don't know or care about exact stats in the real world, and no one said that white women were giantesses. You're silly if you think that the vast majority of normal and ordinary people are as anal as you and other people. They see a 5'1 woman, and they call her "very short". They won't say this in all locations, of course. Most people don't have to look at statistics to see what they see.
Majestic Butterfly said on 7/Oct/22
Michael 181
I agree. i'm a 5'5 1/2 person with a 5'7 1/2 wing span so my arms look really long + my legs are mostly my height + i have a long neck! In photos you may perceive me as a 5'7 person but put me next to someone in the 5'11-6'0 range and i look tiny next to them.
Michael 181
I agree. i'm a 5'5 1/2 person with a 5'7 1/2 wing span so my arms look really long + my legs are mostly my height + i have a long neck! In photos you may perceive me as a 5'7 person but put me next to someone in the 5'11-6'0 range and i look tiny next to them.
adrianposter said on 7/Oct/22
Thinking that 5’10” is the average for the Netherlands is just straight up delusional when a quick google search will tell you that the average is 6’0.5
Thinking that 5’10” is the average for the Netherlands is just straight up delusional when a quick google search will tell you that the average is 6’0.5
Peter 180cm said on 7/Oct/22
@Michael 181 Yeah i guess i was made to have long arms,just like my father with big palms as well(20cm). I get guessed at 182-183 usually and sometimes 185 but that's because people inflate and exaggerate heights mostly,i doubt it really is because of my long arms.
@Michael 181 Yeah i guess i was made to have long arms,just like my father with big palms as well(20cm). I get guessed at 182-183 usually and sometimes 185 but that's because people inflate and exaggerate heights mostly,i doubt it really is because of my long arms.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 7/Oct/22
When I went there I felt most young Dutch men were 5'11.5-511.75 range so overall average could be a flat 5'11.
When I went there I felt most young Dutch men were 5'11.5-511.75 range so overall average could be a flat 5'11.
bgh said on 7/Oct/22
I doubt Netherlands’ average is just 5’10. At least 5’11 def and closer to 6’0 for younger dudes.
I doubt Netherlands’ average is just 5’10. At least 5’11 def and closer to 6’0 for younger dudes.
John185 said on 7/Oct/22
Ideal height doesn't simply encompass the 70th/80th/90th percentiles. It's also about body proportions.
Onscreen 187cm - 189cm looks excellent.
Even 190cm - 193cm/194cm can look great in pictures and movies which certainly counts for something, but this is importantly, not the same as real life.
The body length of 187cm - 189cm in real life can look quite good, but ideal head size vs body length is at roughly 182cm/183cm - 185cm. (Maybe 180cm at a minimum and 186cm at a maximum.)
To narrow things down further the ideal range for optimum head size in relation to body length could reasonably be 183.5cm/184cm - 184.5cm/185cm assuming good proportions.
When a person gets above 185cm their head looks too big in real life.
Overall head size in general I see as being important - not merely in relation to body length.
5'11½ - 6'1 is truly a great range. I don't think an individual needs to be taller than the vast majority, 6'2/6'3 for example, to be considered an ideal height. It's nice to be taller than most people and I certainly get that, but 6'0/6'1 is tall enough and very convenient.
I'm not trying to criticise other heights, as most have a certain appeal for one reason or another, but this is the conclusion I have come to based upon experience as well as numerous observations in real life over many years.
Ideal height doesn't simply encompass the 70th/80th/90th percentiles. It's also about body proportions.
Onscreen 187cm - 189cm looks excellent.
Even 190cm - 193cm/194cm can look great in pictures and movies which certainly counts for something, but this is importantly, not the same as real life.
The body length of 187cm - 189cm in real life can look quite good, but ideal head size vs body length is at roughly 182cm/183cm - 185cm. (Maybe 180cm at a minimum and 186cm at a maximum.)
To narrow things down further the ideal range for optimum head size in relation to body length could reasonably be 183.5cm/184cm - 184.5cm/185cm assuming good proportions.
When a person gets above 185cm their head looks too big in real life.
Overall head size in general I see as being important - not merely in relation to body length.
5'11½ - 6'1 is truly a great range. I don't think an individual needs to be taller than the vast majority, 6'2/6'3 for example, to be considered an ideal height. It's nice to be taller than most people and I certainly get that, but 6'0/6'1 is tall enough and very convenient.
I'm not trying to criticise other heights, as most have a certain appeal for one reason or another, but this is the conclusion I have come to based upon experience as well as numerous observations in real life over many years.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 7/Oct/22
Day off yesterday but still went into town etc walked the dogs etc, after walking the dogs again at 7pm I was bang on 182.. do any of you guys have a fairly similar job to me? Builder, landscaping, tree work etc?
Day off yesterday but still went into town etc walked the dogs etc, after walking the dogs again at 7pm I was bang on 182.. do any of you guys have a fairly similar job to me? Builder, landscaping, tree work etc?
John185 said on 7/Oct/22
@Totigno
Totigno said on 29/Sep/22
Sagen said on 24/Sep/22
average in france is 5'10-5'10.5 for young people in my estimation and official ressources says it's 5'10 7/8 for people in their mid-twenties. there's no way the average frenchman in around 5'8, if that was the case i would be legit very tall standing at 185 cm in the afternoon, but i'm obviously not and there a lot of sequences-especially in large crowds- when i dont feel tall, just a chunk above average sometimes.
@John185
Average height overall for men in france is officially about 5ft9 or a bit over but that includes old men and immigrants also people from small towns are quite short and also people in the south of France .
Men under 40 are about 5f10-5ft10.5 and near 5ft11 for 18-25 years old.
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I take in to consideration what you have said, but that is honestly not what I observed.
The average for young French men was at most 5'9, and that's being generous. 5'8 range is more accurate. Overall the French average is 5'8 (5'8½ - 5'9 at most for those under 40).
In the UK the overall average is 5'9, but 5'9½ - 5'10 for young men depending on social demographic.
Some working class areas are 5'9 for young guys and middle-class areas 5'10.
The collective average is something in the 5'9½ - 5'9¾ range for under 40's.
@Totigno
Totigno said on 29/Sep/22
Sagen said on 24/Sep/22
average in france is 5'10-5'10.5 for young people in my estimation and official ressources says it's 5'10 7/8 for people in their mid-twenties. there's no way the average frenchman in around 5'8, if that was the case i would be legit very tall standing at 185 cm in the afternoon, but i'm obviously not and there a lot of sequences-especially in large crowds- when i dont feel tall, just a chunk above average sometimes.
@John185
Average height overall for men in france is officially about 5ft9 or a bit over but that includes old men and immigrants also people from small towns are quite short and also people in the south of France .
Men under 40 are about 5f10-5ft10.5 and near 5ft11 for 18-25 years old.
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I take in to consideration what you have said, but that is honestly not what I observed.
The average for young French men was at most 5'9, and that's being generous. 5'8 range is more accurate. Overall the French average is 5'8 (5'8½ - 5'9 at most for those under 40).
In the UK the overall average is 5'9, but 5'9½ - 5'10 for young men depending on social demographic.
Some working class areas are 5'9 for young guys and middle-class areas 5'10.
The collective average is something in the 5'9½ - 5'9¾ range for under 40's.
Mattyboy said on 7/Oct/22
We can split hairs all day with “low average”/“high average”, etc but I think for the US and many others…
5’7-5’11 is pretty much plain old average territory. I’m guessing this is a range over 50% of men fall in…the bulk of the population. You don’t really stick out as far as height being something people really notice unless you just happen to be around a group of people that are very tall like maybe a basketball team.
You might could even broaden that common range to 5’6.5-5’11.5 and maybe it would represent 60-70% of men. When I put in 5.6.5” on the tall life calculator it’s 17th percentile so still really common….sorta picture how Ricky Hatton (5’6 flat) looks beside Rob.
5’5.5 is where you start dipping below the 10th percentile.
We can split hairs all day with “low average”/“high average”, etc but I think for the US and many others…
5’7-5’11 is pretty much plain old average territory. I’m guessing this is a range over 50% of men fall in…the bulk of the population. You don’t really stick out as far as height being something people really notice unless you just happen to be around a group of people that are very tall like maybe a basketball team.
You might could even broaden that common range to 5’6.5-5’11.5 and maybe it would represent 60-70% of men. When I put in 5.6.5” on the tall life calculator it’s 17th percentile so still really common….sorta picture how Ricky Hatton (5’6 flat) looks beside Rob.
5’5.5 is where you start dipping below the 10th percentile.
vY said on 6/Oct/22
Do you guys think 160 pounds at 6’1.5 is super skinny?
Do you guys think 160 pounds at 6’1.5 is super skinny?
jokey said on 6/Oct/22
Peter 180cm said on 6/Oct/22
Since we're talking about armspans as well. Mine is 195cm at almost 180cm.
Are you 5'10.75 at night? I think we are height twins, i'm 180cm on the dot in the afternoon.
Peter 180cm said on 6/Oct/22
Since we're talking about armspans as well. Mine is 195cm at almost 180cm.
Are you 5'10.75 at night? I think we are height twins, i'm 180cm on the dot in the afternoon.
Poster said on 6/Oct/22
@Meltdown: Your height chart is almost identical to my guesses for black and white younger American women. I wonder about younger Asian American women. My guess is that their average is similar to Latinas. I also think that there are pockets of shorter younger white American women (based on my experience).
@Meltdown: Your height chart is almost identical to my guesses for black and white younger American women. I wonder about younger Asian American women. My guess is that their average is similar to Latinas. I also think that there are pockets of shorter younger white American women (based on my experience).
Jdubbz said on 6/Oct/22
@Poster:
Huh? I literally gave you statistical proof that it's not. Young white women aren't giants. Being 4 inches shorter than average is in no way enough to be in the "very short" category. That's just ridiculous. Are you saying 5'9 is very tall for white women? Because that's what you're implying if you think 5'1 is very short.
@Poster:
Huh? I literally gave you statistical proof that it's not. Young white women aren't giants. Being 4 inches shorter than average is in no way enough to be in the "very short" category. That's just ridiculous. Are you saying 5'9 is very tall for white women? Because that's what you're implying if you think 5'1 is very short.
jokey said on 6/Oct/22
Bislimi said on 5/Oct/22
Hey Rob. My Dad is 5ft11 at night, Mum 5ft2.5 at night and I’m 5ft11.5 at night. Did I end up within the expected normal height or more towards the higher end?
yeah even if your mom is pretty short you ended up a little taller than your dad, kinda like myself. Mom's 5'3, dad was a 5'10 peak, i topped out at 5'10.75.
Maybe i can still get a fraction but i don't know.
Bislimi said on 5/Oct/22
Hey Rob. My Dad is 5ft11 at night, Mum 5ft2.5 at night and I’m 5ft11.5 at night. Did I end up within the expected normal height or more towards the higher end?
yeah even if your mom is pretty short you ended up a little taller than your dad, kinda like myself. Mom's 5'3, dad was a 5'10 peak, i topped out at 5'10.75.
Maybe i can still get a fraction but i don't know.
Nik Ashton said on 6/Oct/22
@ Leesheff1985 - I agree, 5’7” is pretty average in the scheme of things!
@ Leesheff1985 - I agree, 5’7” is pretty average in the scheme of things!
Nik Ashton said on 6/Oct/22
@ Meltdown - It’s not so high in the UK, I only trust Rob!
@ Meltdown - It’s not so high in the UK, I only trust Rob!
Bg guy2 said on 6/Oct/22
Rob would most guys in the street precived 5ft9 guy as completely normal when they see him in person in the uk scotland
Editor Rob
Rob would most guys in the street precived 5ft9 guy as completely normal when they see him in person in the uk scotland
Editor RobIt's bang on average...maybe posture and proportions could fool others into thinking some 5ft 9 people are 5ft 7-8 and then perceive them as short.
Michael 181 said on 6/Oct/22
@ Peter 180cm
It’s a misconception that someone “could have grown taller” simply because they have a very high ape index. Arms and legs basically grow the exact same and fuse around the same time so you were genetically supposed to have long arms and decent height combination. I assume there’s a decent chance you also have long legs for your height. I have seen a bunch of short guys claim they had stunted growth because they were 5’5 with a 5’11 wingspan or something. It’s highly unlikely that someone had stunted growth if they just have long arms, it’s definitely more of a genetic chance thing than a stunted growth indicator. The only time it really could indicate stunted growth is if you also have scoliosis, since people with scoliosis have longer wingspan vs height almost always, because they are missing height in their torso. See Arnold Schwarzenegger, he is only a weak 5’11 now due to spinal collapse but still has (my estimate) 6’5 wingspan. His arms almost touch the ground if he’s barefoot at the beach now. Arnold definitely wasn’t stunted, in fact he clearly had genetics that fused his spinal cord growth plates before his arm and leg plates. Usually arms and leg long bones fuse separately from the torso and depending on which plates fuse first will determine your proportions. Hence long torso going with short arms and short torso often going with long arms. Torso tends to fuse last on average but for tall men 190+cm they are almost always long in torso or long in legs, very rare to be normal proportions. Again always exceptions
But yeah long arms are very good looking and I wish mine were about an inch longer on each arm overall. I think being 180 with 195 wingspan is better looking than me being 181 with 183 wingspan. I think you’d get guessed at 6’1 pretty often just based on arm length whereas people think I’m 6’ flat. Even though I’m a smidge taller than you I think I’d rather have your height and proportions.
@ Peter 180cm
It’s a misconception that someone “could have grown taller” simply because they have a very high ape index. Arms and legs basically grow the exact same and fuse around the same time so you were genetically supposed to have long arms and decent height combination. I assume there’s a decent chance you also have long legs for your height. I have seen a bunch of short guys claim they had stunted growth because they were 5’5 with a 5’11 wingspan or something. It’s highly unlikely that someone had stunted growth if they just have long arms, it’s definitely more of a genetic chance thing than a stunted growth indicator. The only time it really could indicate stunted growth is if you also have scoliosis, since people with scoliosis have longer wingspan vs height almost always, because they are missing height in their torso. See Arnold Schwarzenegger, he is only a weak 5’11 now due to spinal collapse but still has (my estimate) 6’5 wingspan. His arms almost touch the ground if he’s barefoot at the beach now. Arnold definitely wasn’t stunted, in fact he clearly had genetics that fused his spinal cord growth plates before his arm and leg plates. Usually arms and leg long bones fuse separately from the torso and depending on which plates fuse first will determine your proportions. Hence long torso going with short arms and short torso often going with long arms. Torso tends to fuse last on average but for tall men 190+cm they are almost always long in torso or long in legs, very rare to be normal proportions. Again always exceptions
But yeah long arms are very good looking and I wish mine were about an inch longer on each arm overall. I think being 180 with 195 wingspan is better looking than me being 181 with 183 wingspan. I think you’d get guessed at 6’1 pretty often just based on arm length whereas people think I’m 6’ flat. Even though I’m a smidge taller than you I think I’d rather have your height and proportions.
Gian 181cm said on 6/Oct/22
@Michael
What is your height at the beginning of the night? (6:00pm)
I'm about 181-181.1cm and I end up dropping to 5'11 1/8 by the end of the night.
@Michael
What is your height at the beginning of the night? (6:00pm)
I'm about 181-181.1cm and I end up dropping to 5'11 1/8 by the end of the night.
Peter 180cm said on 6/Oct/22
Since we're talking about armspans as well. Mine is 195cm at almost 180cm. Could have grown taller, it's definitely an advantage in everyday life i can tell you. Probably the reason why people guess me taller than 180 and why i look 181 next to objects of known height (compared myself in front of the mirror next to a 6ft wallframe and my hair was slightly under.
Since we're talking about armspans as well. Mine is 195cm at almost 180cm. Could have grown taller, it's definitely an advantage in everyday life i can tell you. Probably the reason why people guess me taller than 180 and why i look 181 next to objects of known height (compared myself in front of the mirror next to a 6ft wallframe and my hair was slightly under.
Leighton Tang said on 6/Oct/22
Hi Rob, if Victor Wembanyama was measured 7'4, how tall does the guy on the left look? He claims 6'3 but looks way shorter.
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Editor Rob
Hi Rob, if Victor Wembanyama was measured 7'4, how tall does the guy on the left look? He claims 6'3 but looks way shorter.
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Editor RobIt's likely not the actual guy posting.
You can find the guy on Twitter, here he is with a guy actually listed 5ft 9 Click Here...now of course listings can be wrong and the guy ain't 5ft 9, he actually claimed to be 6'1 & 1/2 .... 6'3 with basketball trainers! on twitter.
So if true, Paul Nicholson is sub 6ft.
You can find the guy on Twitter, here he is with a guy actually listed 5ft 9 Click Here...now of course listings can be wrong and the guy ain't 5ft 9, he actually claimed to be 6'1 & 1/2 .... 6'3 with basketball trainers! on twitter.
So if true, Paul Nicholson is sub 6ft.
Shazzz12 said on 6/Oct/22
Rob if someone falls to 182cm at a low (around 5’11 5/8”) would you call them a strong 5’11?
Editor Rob
Rob if someone falls to 182cm at a low (around 5’11 5/8”) would you call them a strong 5’11?
Editor RobWeak 6ft rather than a strong 5ft 11
Leesheff1985 said on 6/Oct/22
The entire world average for men is in no way five nine. It's around five seven.
The entire world average for men is in no way five nine. It's around five seven.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Oct/22
@ Big Ben - I remember you, with your blond hair! 👱♂️ You don’t look chunky at all, merely very appealing and young, WITHOUT any ‘puppy fat’. 🐶❌
You look tall as well, certainly with your mate, Jimmie. 😺😁
@ Big Ben - I remember you, with your blond hair! 👱♂️ You don’t look chunky at all, merely very appealing and young, WITHOUT any ‘puppy fat’. 🐶❌
You look tall as well, certainly with your mate, Jimmie. 😺😁
Bislimi said on 5/Oct/22
Hey Rob. My Dad is 5ft11 at night, Mum 5ft2.5 at night and I’m 5ft11.5 at night. Did I end up within the expected normal height or more towards the higher end?
Hey Rob. My Dad is 5ft11 at night, Mum 5ft2.5 at night and I’m 5ft11.5 at night. Did I end up within the expected normal height or more towards the higher end?
Michael 181 said on 5/Oct/22
For the record I am 181cm with 93cm sitting height (51.4%, slightly long legs) and 183cm ape index (slight short arms). Not the best looking combination but nobody can really tell. Just means it’s harder to find suits that work off the rack since long sleeves usually come with long pants and vice versa. Average wingspan for my proportions and height would be 186cm, so my arms are about half an inch short.
For the record I am 181cm with 93cm sitting height (51.4%, slightly long legs) and 183cm ape index (slight short arms). Not the best looking combination but nobody can really tell. Just means it’s harder to find suits that work off the rack since long sleeves usually come with long pants and vice versa. Average wingspan for my proportions and height would be 186cm, so my arms are about half an inch short.
Michael 181 said on 5/Oct/22
@ Bg guy2
I actually have data for armspan too. For a white American man the average is about 1.025x longer than your height, with a standard deviation of .025x. So if your armspan and height are equal then you have a lower ape index than 85% of men your height. However it is closely related to leg length too. Average white sitting height is a bit over 52%, normal range is 51% to 53.5%. Those with around 51% usually have an ape index of 1.05x height and those with 53.5% average closer to 1.01x
For white women, 1.01x is average, for black men it is closer to 1.06x, for east Asian men it is 1.0x, Asian women are .99x, south and south East Asians for both sexes are similar to the black ratio. Hispanics are very similar to white average for their given sitting height.
So for a typical 5’10 white man with 52.2% sitting height ratio, the average is actually just under 6’ wingspan. Again, if they are leggy like Arnold (who probably had a 50-51% sitting height ratio at peak, lower now) they will probably be closer to 6’1 to 6’2 wingspan. Arnold’s wingspan is probably 6’5+. If they have long torso like Ryan Reynolds it might be 70-71 inches. Of course there are exceptions like Michael Phelps.
@ Bg guy2
I actually have data for armspan too. For a white American man the average is about 1.025x longer than your height, with a standard deviation of .025x. So if your armspan and height are equal then you have a lower ape index than 85% of men your height. However it is closely related to leg length too. Average white sitting height is a bit over 52%, normal range is 51% to 53.5%. Those with around 51% usually have an ape index of 1.05x height and those with 53.5% average closer to 1.01x
For white women, 1.01x is average, for black men it is closer to 1.06x, for east Asian men it is 1.0x, Asian women are .99x, south and south East Asians for both sexes are similar to the black ratio. Hispanics are very similar to white average for their given sitting height.
So for a typical 5’10 white man with 52.2% sitting height ratio, the average is actually just under 6’ wingspan. Again, if they are leggy like Arnold (who probably had a 50-51% sitting height ratio at peak, lower now) they will probably be closer to 6’1 to 6’2 wingspan. Arnold’s wingspan is probably 6’5+. If they have long torso like Ryan Reynolds it might be 70-71 inches. Of course there are exceptions like Michael Phelps.
dreus23 said on 5/Oct/22
@Darksol64
That's just insane, must've been a joke, right?
I do remember one time though at my former job that there was a guy who had very long-ish proportions, with a long neck, lanky body build, and a small head, who I estimated to be around 6'2 territory, 6'3 at absolute most, could look below 6'2. The boss, a guy who I estimated at around 5'4, once described him as "6'5". I just started laughing. I didn't argue against it because that would be annoying, but "6'5"? How the hell? I thought about it for a while until my only conclusion was that he exaggerated his own height by 3 inches and had convinced himself that he was 5'7 lol
Admittedly, sometimes I forget just how tall 6'2 is irl, at least for a guy like me. Most of the celebs listed on here are well-proportioned and have conventionally handsome body types and usually not a typical "tall person-face" so when I see a lanky guy with long legs and a long neck irl that looks 6'2 next to other people, I could still be biased and estimate that person as high as 6'4
@Darksol64
That's just insane, must've been a joke, right?
I do remember one time though at my former job that there was a guy who had very long-ish proportions, with a long neck, lanky body build, and a small head, who I estimated to be around 6'2 territory, 6'3 at absolute most, could look below 6'2. The boss, a guy who I estimated at around 5'4, once described him as "6'5". I just started laughing. I didn't argue against it because that would be annoying, but "6'5"? How the hell? I thought about it for a while until my only conclusion was that he exaggerated his own height by 3 inches and had convinced himself that he was 5'7 lol
Admittedly, sometimes I forget just how tall 6'2 is irl, at least for a guy like me. Most of the celebs listed on here are well-proportioned and have conventionally handsome body types and usually not a typical "tall person-face" so when I see a lanky guy with long legs and a long neck irl that looks 6'2 next to other people, I could still be biased and estimate that person as high as 6'4
Rapha said on 5/Oct/22
ZDA said on 5/Oct/22
@Billythetreesurgeon
My normal low is 182.5-182.4ish. Extreme low couple of mm less at 182.2-182cm. Happy to meet you one day, I live in London as well.
@Bobby
I respect your opinion, many people will identify their height as the morning height, others in the evening like me. In my opinion our low height is our REAL height because we don’t shrink further anymore.
@ZDA. I would agree with Bobby. Most measurements are taken in the morning, not directly out of bed but 1 to 4 hours out of bed so I feel it is good time to get your height measured. The argument you make that you do not shrink further and therefore your evening height is your real height does not make much sense to me. You certainly do not shrink further but you grow again at night and as we all know you need to sleep and lay at a certain point:) Some people state the maximum height that they can reach which is their out of bed height. For argument sake,It could also be considered your real height, same as your low evening height.
ZDA said on 5/Oct/22
@Billythetreesurgeon
My normal low is 182.5-182.4ish. Extreme low couple of mm less at 182.2-182cm. Happy to meet you one day, I live in London as well.
@Bobby
I respect your opinion, many people will identify their height as the morning height, others in the evening like me. In my opinion our low height is our REAL height because we don’t shrink further anymore.
@ZDA. I would agree with Bobby. Most measurements are taken in the morning, not directly out of bed but 1 to 4 hours out of bed so I feel it is good time to get your height measured. The argument you make that you do not shrink further and therefore your evening height is your real height does not make much sense to me. You certainly do not shrink further but you grow again at night and as we all know you need to sleep and lay at a certain point:) Some people state the maximum height that they can reach which is their out of bed height. For argument sake,It could also be considered your real height, same as your low evening height.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 5/Oct/22
22.000 steps at work today as well as lifting etc and still got 5.11 1/2 flat when I got home is that a legit weak 6ft still?
Editor Rob
22.000 steps at work today as well as lifting etc and still got 5.11 1/2 flat when I got home is that a legit weak 6ft still?
Editor RobOn other days you are bound to be 5ft 11.75 afternoon, so weak 6ft
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 5/Oct/22
Zda@ sounds good mate, we will sort something out for sure
Zda@ sounds good mate, we will sort something out for sure
185cmJeff said on 5/Oct/22
@billythetreesurgeon I live near London
@billythetreesurgeon I live near London
Bobby said on 5/Oct/22
@ZDA
I identify my height as what I would measure during the course of the day, which is 5'9 7/8s, so basically 5'10.
@ZDA
I identify my height as what I would measure during the course of the day, which is 5'9 7/8s, so basically 5'10.
Big Ben said on 5/Oct/22
@adrianjacobs - Click Here Here’s me with Jimmie Åkesson back in 2019 (when I was a 35 lbs heavier chunky feller). For some reason he’s always slouching when posing with people but when he’s talking to people he has good posture and when he was standing straight I was still a bit taller.
@adrianjacobs - Click Here Here’s me with Jimmie Åkesson back in 2019 (when I was a 35 lbs heavier chunky feller). For some reason he’s always slouching when posing with people but when he’s talking to people he has good posture and when he was standing straight I was still a bit taller.
Bg guy2 said on 5/Oct/22
Rob what would be typical arm span for 5ft10 guy?
Editor Rob
Rob what would be typical arm span for 5ft10 guy?
Editor RobAverage can vary slightly depending on heritage, but somewhere in 5ft 10-11 range would be quite typical.
adrianjacobs said on 5/Oct/22
@Big Ben Jimmie Åkesson 177 yeah... Might as well put the Swedish average at 175, shorter than America, huh?
@Big Ben Jimmie Åkesson 177 yeah... Might as well put the Swedish average at 175, shorter than America, huh?
Canson said on 5/Oct/22
James B 172cm said on 5/Oct/22
Rob if a guy claims 6ft6 and 6ft7 does that means he can't be any less than 6ft6.5?
Editor Rob
Could be an indication he's somewhere in between or...maybe 6ft 6 barefoot and 6ft 7 early in day (or shoes).
That’s not necessarily true. He could be 6’4 or 6’5 barefoot and claim that. I’ve seen a guy who was 6’6ish claim 6’9 once and a buddy of mine who is 6’5 1/4” stood next to him and the guy was max 1” taller than him. While that could be the reason, that’s not the only one
James B 172cm said on 5/Oct/22
Rob if a guy claims 6ft6 and 6ft7 does that means he can't be any less than 6ft6.5?
Editor Rob
Could be an indication he's somewhere in between or...maybe 6ft 6 barefoot and 6ft 7 early in day (or shoes).
That’s not necessarily true. He could be 6’4 or 6’5 barefoot and claim that. I’ve seen a guy who was 6’6ish claim 6’9 once and a buddy of mine who is 6’5 1/4” stood next to him and the guy was max 1” taller than him. While that could be the reason, that’s not the only one
adrianjacobs said on 5/Oct/22
@Michael 181 Yup, people were undoubtedly shorter in Copenhagen in my experience. As soon I saw massive guys or women near my height in Copenhagen, they were very often talking swedish as well. I felt about the same in Copenhagen as people describing it here, but Stockholm is way off from what other people claim here.
@Michael 181 Yup, people were undoubtedly shorter in Copenhagen in my experience. As soon I saw massive guys or women near my height in Copenhagen, they were very often talking swedish as well. I felt about the same in Copenhagen as people describing it here, but Stockholm is way off from what other people claim here.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 5/Oct/22
Darksol64 said on 4/Oct/22
Yes of course, this is totally my thoughts.
Especially if we talking about evening heights or heights without shoes. I mean the average height inflation is 1-2inches and the most of people just don't realise how tall is real xxx height and how really much some of differences!
Darksol64 said on 4/Oct/22
Yes of course, this is totally my thoughts.
Especially if we talking about evening heights or heights without shoes. I mean the average height inflation is 1-2inches and the most of people just don't realise how tall is real xxx height and how really much some of differences!
Meltdown said on 5/Oct/22
Maahin Chowdhury said on 4/Oct/22
Bg guy2 said on 4/Oct/22
Not exactly. In America, the average height for men ages 20–29 is 5'9.5". For non-Hispanic Whites it's slightly over 5'10".
The entire world average for men however is 5'9", but in most 1st world countries the average is usually somewhere between 5'9" and 5'11.5".
My chart is still most accurate.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 4/Oct/22
Bg guy2 said on 4/Oct/22
Not exactly. In America, the average height for men ages 20–29 is 5'9.5". For non-Hispanic Whites it's slightly over 5'10".
The entire world average for men however is 5'9", but in most 1st world countries the average is usually somewhere between 5'9" and 5'11.5".
My chart is still most accurate.
Meltdown said on 5/Oct/22
Maahin Chowdhury said on 4/Oct/22
Bg guy2 said on 4/Oct/22
Not exactly. In America, the average height for men ages 20–29 is 5'9.5". For non-Hispanic Whites it's slightly over 5'10".
The entire world average for men however is 5'9", but in most 1st world countries the average is usually somewhere between 5'9" and 5'11.5".
My chart is still most accurate.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 4/Oct/22
Bg guy2 said on 4/Oct/22
Not exactly. In America, the average height for men ages 20–29 is 5'9.5". For non-Hispanic Whites it's slightly over 5'10".
The entire world average for men however is 5'9", but in most 1st world countries the average is usually somewhere between 5'9" and 5'11.5".
My chart is still most accurate.
ZDA said on 5/Oct/22
@ adrianposter
5 ft 10.5? No, it never went up. I will show you the latest CDC Census Data done by cdc. You showed me 2011-2014 CDC Census Data. I will show you the new 2015-2018 CDC Census. Click Here
If you go to page 22, white young guys at 20-29 average at 178 cm a flat 5 ft 10 (this was conducted during the morning, so 176.5-177cm by evening 5 ft 9.5).
The average overall height of the general population 20+ is a flat 5 ft 9 or 175.3 (again done in the morning so, 5 ft 8.5 is the real average by evening)
Interestingly if you look at 20-29 age group that involves all races, this age group actually shrank to 175.8 cm compared to age group of 30-39 who measured 176.3. So Adrian the claim you made about “height is going up” or it’s increasing, are they?
@ adrianposter
5 ft 10.5? No, it never went up. I will show you the latest CDC Census Data done by cdc. You showed me 2011-2014 CDC Census Data. I will show you the new 2015-2018 CDC Census. Click Here
If you go to page 22, white young guys at 20-29 average at 178 cm a flat 5 ft 10 (this was conducted during the morning, so 176.5-177cm by evening 5 ft 9.5).
The average overall height of the general population 20+ is a flat 5 ft 9 or 175.3 (again done in the morning so, 5 ft 8.5 is the real average by evening)
Interestingly if you look at 20-29 age group that involves all races, this age group actually shrank to 175.8 cm compared to age group of 30-39 who measured 176.3. So Adrian the claim you made about “height is going up” or it’s increasing, are they?
Alex 6'0 said on 5/Oct/22
Went to a bar lounge Saturday night 1130 to around 1am. I actually only seen one guy taller than me in the bar even including the bouncers. The taller guy looked at least 6'1
Went to a bar lounge Saturday night 1130 to around 1am. I actually only seen one guy taller than me in the bar even including the bouncers. The taller guy looked at least 6'1
ZDA said on 5/Oct/22
@ Gian 181cm
Yeah I agree.
@ Gian 181cm
Yeah I agree.
ZDA said on 5/Oct/22
@Billythetreesurgeon
My normal low is 182.5-182.4ish. Extreme low couple of mm less at 182.2-182cm. Happy to meet you one day, I live in London as well.
@Bobby
I respect your opinion, many people will identify their height as the morning height, others in the evening like me. In my opinion our low height is our REAL height because we don’t shrink further anymore.
@Billythetreesurgeon
My normal low is 182.5-182.4ish. Extreme low couple of mm less at 182.2-182cm. Happy to meet you one day, I live in London as well.
@Bobby
I respect your opinion, many people will identify their height as the morning height, others in the evening like me. In my opinion our low height is our REAL height because we don’t shrink further anymore.
James B 172cm said on 5/Oct/22
Rob if a guy claims 6ft6 and 6ft7 does that means he can't be any less than 6ft6.5?
Editor Rob
Rob if a guy claims 6ft6 and 6ft7 does that means he can't be any less than 6ft6.5?
Editor RobCould be an indication he's somewhere in between or...maybe 6ft 6 barefoot and 6ft 7 early in day (or shoes).
Leesheff1985 said on 4/Oct/22
But the average man in the UK and US whether young or not is 5ft 9 not in anyway 5ft 10.5
But the average man in the UK and US whether young or not is 5ft 9 not in anyway 5ft 10.5
Jdubbz said on 4/Oct/22
@Meltdown:
Best chart I've seen in a while. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks very tall is 6'4 minimum, not 6'3.
@Meltdown:
Best chart I've seen in a while. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks very tall is 6'4 minimum, not 6'3.
Question4Rob said on 4/Oct/22
Rob, what would the average 5ft8 celebrity claim to be?
Editor Rob
Rob, what would the average 5ft8 celebrity claim to be?
Editor RobI think it would even off to near 5ft 9
Jdubbz said on 4/Oct/22
Poster said on 2/Oct/22
@Leesheff1985: 5'1 is very short for a younger white American woman. It's at the 9th percentile.
A 9th percentile height isn't very short, just like a 91st percentile height isn't very tall. Very means at least 2 SD away from average, so for younger white women (assuming 5'5 average) very short would be more like 4'11 and down. 5'8.5 is on the other end of the spectrum at the 91st percentile, and that's definitely not very tall for young white women.
Poster said on 2/Oct/22
@Leesheff1985: 5'1 is very short for a younger white American woman. It's at the 9th percentile.
A 9th percentile height isn't very short, just like a 91st percentile height isn't very tall. Very means at least 2 SD away from average, so for younger white women (assuming 5'5 average) very short would be more like 4'11 and down. 5'8.5 is on the other end of the spectrum at the 91st percentile, and that's definitely not very tall for young white women.
thatmanoverthere said on 4/Oct/22
Hi Rob, I know you’ve probably gotten this question a lot, but how much does running speed up height loss during the day? I checked my height today and I seemed abnormally close to my low for a height measurement before noon (i.e., within a few millimeters) after running for an hour. I did run pretty hard, though. I was also up for about a couple hours before running.
Editor Rob
Hi Rob, I know you’ve probably gotten this question a lot, but how much does running speed up height loss during the day? I checked my height today and I seemed abnormally close to my low for a height measurement before noon (i.e., within a few millimeters) after running for an hour. I did run pretty hard, though. I was also up for about a couple hours before running.
Editor RobRunning for an hour is a fair amount of intense movement and pressure on discs, so it's no surprise you are near your low.
Running for 1-2 hours might put you at an absolute low that is 1/4 inch less than your typical low range.
Running for 1-2 hours might put you at an absolute low that is 1/4 inch less than your typical low range.
dreus23 said on 4/Oct/22
@Tallish Guy
Also, I would like to clarify that I don't really think it's *likely* that you're going to grow 2 cm, but I think that's about the maximum you could grow. If you grow, it's most likely mm, like you might reach closer to flat 184 cm (like 183.8 or something)
I think I'm also a bit of a late bloomer in terms of height. I was 157-158 cm in seventh grade, 162-163 cm in eighth grade, 164-165 cm in ninth grade, 165-166 cm first year of high school, 167-168 cm second year, and now I measure 171 cm third year. Pretty much everyone in my family put on a bit after 18 (I'm 17 rn) so it really does depend on genetics
@Tallish Guy
Also, I would like to clarify that I don't really think it's *likely* that you're going to grow 2 cm, but I think that's about the maximum you could grow. If you grow, it's most likely mm, like you might reach closer to flat 184 cm (like 183.8 or something)
I think I'm also a bit of a late bloomer in terms of height. I was 157-158 cm in seventh grade, 162-163 cm in eighth grade, 164-165 cm in ninth grade, 165-166 cm first year of high school, 167-168 cm second year, and now I measure 171 cm third year. Pretty much everyone in my family put on a bit after 18 (I'm 17 rn) so it really does depend on genetics
Maahin Chowdhury said on 4/Oct/22
@Meltdown
In the UK and US, 5’9 is the average. For younger guys (millenials and gen z) it’s 5’9.5-5’9.75. In some european countries like germany, poland, czech republic etc. 5’10 is probably the average.
@Meltdown
In the UK and US, 5’9 is the average. For younger guys (millenials and gen z) it’s 5’9.5-5’9.75. In some european countries like germany, poland, czech republic etc. 5’10 is probably the average.
James B 172cm said on 4/Oct/22
dreus23 said on 4/Oct/22
@Tallish guy It's really rare to grow anything at age 20, even if people say that "oh men grow until their 21". Most guys still don't grow after turning maybe 19 or near 20, and generally most guys slow down around age 16. But since you mention you have the genes for late growth, I actually think you could reach as high as 185.5 cm at maybe age 22. I wouldn't expect more than that though
@James B 172 cm Whaaat? There's no way you're the same height as me and knew a 6'6.5 guy who you consider "not that gigantic". The few people I have met around that range I perceived as absolutely massive, and it was pretty clear that even their proportions made them look gigantic. I'd say pretty much everything over 190 cm, at least for me, maybe isn't "gigantic", but still very obviously big, towering people
Maybe my friend was not as tall as he claimed
dreus23 said on 4/Oct/22
@Tallish guy It's really rare to grow anything at age 20, even if people say that "oh men grow until their 21". Most guys still don't grow after turning maybe 19 or near 20, and generally most guys slow down around age 16. But since you mention you have the genes for late growth, I actually think you could reach as high as 185.5 cm at maybe age 22. I wouldn't expect more than that though
@James B 172 cm Whaaat? There's no way you're the same height as me and knew a 6'6.5 guy who you consider "not that gigantic". The few people I have met around that range I perceived as absolutely massive, and it was pretty clear that even their proportions made them look gigantic. I'd say pretty much everything over 190 cm, at least for me, maybe isn't "gigantic", but still very obviously big, towering people
Maybe my friend was not as tall as he claimed
Big Ben said on 4/Oct/22
@dreus23 - 177 could be a good guess for Jimmie. And back then Erdal Rakip was listed as high as 179.
@dreus23 - 177 could be a good guess for Jimmie. And back then Erdal Rakip was listed as high as 179.
Gian 181cm said on 4/Oct/22
@ZDA
I read an article about some states in the USA having high averages like 5'10-5'10.5, and maybe the average for young whites could be 179.5-180cm (just guessing), but other states with mostly white population were in the range 5'9-5'10.
But overall I agree with you, the average tends to fall in more populated and ethnically diverse places (even if the average age is not that high), if we consider the state of NY the average is 36.9 years old which is relatively young compared to average for the USA and Europe in general.
@ZDA
I read an article about some states in the USA having high averages like 5'10-5'10.5, and maybe the average for young whites could be 179.5-180cm (just guessing), but other states with mostly white population were in the range 5'9-5'10.
But overall I agree with you, the average tends to fall in more populated and ethnically diverse places (even if the average age is not that high), if we consider the state of NY the average is 36.9 years old which is relatively young compared to average for the USA and Europe in general.
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