How tall was Sean Connery

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 21/Nov/24
I think Connery held 6ft2 at his low. That reported Mr. Universe listing of 6ft2⅜ carries some weight. He may well have hit that mark at an earlier time once. Those guys are measured barefoot as well.....

kerz said on 19/Nov/24
Rob, would a fraction under 6ft 2 be arguable, like Lazenby and Dalton?

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Sep/23
Both Connery and Reynolds fall into that solid 6ft2 zone.....

Canson said on 15/Sep/23
@Editor Rob: Connery imho at his peak. Reynolds’s is shorter than Brett Favre and has admitted to being under 6’2 before. Connery was 6’2 peak more than likely

5'7 and a fraction said on 13/Sep/23
I would have said they were the exact same tbh.

turtle said on 12/Sep/23
Rob who would say would measure taller, Ryan Reynolds or Sean Connery?

Slim1.75m said on 4/Sep/23
Well it's up for debate Carroll looks shorter than Wayne but Chandler is tough to put down Sometimes I thought Chandler was the taller? Sometimes I thought it was Wayne but they were of a similar range.

Gerald S said on 2/Sep/23
Agreed Rob, near 184cm suits Joseph Wiseman perfectly, let's give him that. In some shots, he can look taller than Connery thanks to his extra footwear and camera angles.

Slim1.75m said on 1/Sep/23
So @Rob could you also add Lane Chandler & John Carroll who were both billed 6'4 I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Gerald S said on 31/Aug/23
Rob, I really hope to see Joseph Wiseman get a page. Looks 6ft with Kirk Douglas, more 6’1” with Sean Connery; evidently somewhere in 6’0”-6’1” zone, potentially 6’0.5”.

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That's that said on 26/May/23
He was over the six feet mark, but I have never seen him being anything too farther away from it. But that's the thing: someone who is above a mark and without fully reaching the following one they themselves or others round it up and since most of the time we're wearing shoes people don't see any issue counting one, one and half, perhaps even two inches in to their actual height. I would estimate six feet (6') and a very good extra fraction of an inch (0.9 least) and, on shoes, very close to or just a little above the six feet two inches mark (6'2").

Arch Stanton said on 16/May/23
Roger Browne is described as 6'1.5 in the film "The Spy Who Loved Flowers".

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 4/May/23
Wow, great find Hong! Connery looks 6ft3 in that clip with Letterman...

Hong said on 3/May/23
Click Here Even in old age Connery looked a solid 6ft2.

Gerald S said on 18/Apr/23
Rob, I concur with Rampage. 6’0.5” is a great listing for Wiseman. Definitely over six feet but whether he was more 6’0” or 6’1”, too close to call.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Apr/23
Wiseman looks pretty much even with Connery in that one shot!


Watching Dr. No though, there's more than inch overall between them. 6ft0½ can definitely be argued, not so sure about a full 6ft1 though. Anthony Dawson looked noticeably closer in height to Sean than Joseph did.

Gerald S said on 24/Mar/23
Rob, how tall does Joseph Wiseman look below with Connery?

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Sandy Cowell said on 21/Mar/23
I couldn’t believe it when he passed. I first noticed what a brilliant, not to mention attractive, actor he was when I watched Hitchcock’s Marnie at 9 years of age. He was in other great films as well, and though I am not a Bond fan, I think he was the best Bond EVER.

6ft2. 🕯

5'7 and a fraction said on 17/Mar/23
He still looked tall, even in his old age, at age 90. Very rare for that to happen. He definitely maintained his height very well, despite his age and having dementia. Arnie was only 1/2 an inch shorter than Connery at his peak yet already looks way shorter than he used to be at 75.
I can't see Connery any less than 6'2 peak. Absolute, absolute worst case for him is 6'1 7/8. This bond tailor thing has never been confirmed, thus should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Matt1990 said on 26/Feb/23
I heard he claimed 6ft1.5 barefoot claim aswell but hear what puts it into doubt in the 1950s he was measured at a bodybuilding show at 6ft2.4 so I wouldn’t of throught they measure him in shoes and the James Bond tailor alleged to have measured him at 6ft1.5 if that’s legit question is did the 6ft1.5 measurement come in his later years or did they messure him with different equipment or messuring tape cos sometimes there not always the same

Henrik said on 19/Jan/23
With 6ft 1.5-listed Anthony Perkins in Murder on the Orient Express:

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Lenad 5ft9.75in said on 18/Jan/23
189cm possible at peak. I think more 188 though.

Arch Stanton said on 17/Jan/23
Brynner looks like Joe Rogan sort of height there!

Henrik said on 13/Jan/23
Did Connery claim 6ft 1.5? I know Rob cites him where he says "about" 6ft 2 which could be taken as an indication of 6ft 1.5, but it's not an unequivocal statement, though.

Hong said on 13/Jan/23
Click Here Here's Sean looking every bit of his 6ft2 inches next to 5ft8 yul Brynner.

Lenad 5ft9.75in said on 10/Jan/23
I think a weak 188cm is bang on for a young sean. Sean himself claimed 6'2 and once 6'1 1/2 so he probably dipped between both. I think connery was a legit 6'2 while michael caine was more in the 6'1 range.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 7/Jan/23
Connery was probably a more solid 6ft2 than Lazenby and Dalton.

Henrik said on 12/Dec/22
@Rory

Connery looked taller than Gordon Scott in Tarzan's Greatest Adventures, the second husband of Vera Miles, who was billed as 191cm/6ft 3. George Lazenby who is listed here as 187cm/6ft 1.75 peak also said Connery was taller than himself.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 7/Oct/22
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5'7 and a fraction said on 24/Sep/22

For example, he looked barely weak 3inches vs Lewis Collins in «Jack the Ripper» (1988). In every single shot,in every single scene. About weak 3inches compared to Lewis. Incredible TV movie by the way.
I mean even 6'1.25" (barefoot, without shoes) is very possible.

There was not that height difference as between 5'10.5" vs real 6'2"!!!
6'1.5" is not too low, if we talking about real evening barefoot measuring, lol!

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 3/Oct/22
6ft2 is still an okay listing for Caine overall

5'7 and a fraction said on 24/Sep/22
6'1.5 max peak for Caine is too low. Whilst I don't think he was quite 6'2 either I doubt he was that low. Rampage is right. Around 187 - 188 is how he looked.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 2/Sep/22
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 30/Aug/22

Caine was never true and full 6'2".
6'1.5" peak max!

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 30/Aug/22
I don't think Connery was under it, Rory. 6ft2 on the nose is fine for him but I just think he held it as his low and may have had better odds of measuring a wafer above it. During his career he was regularly referred to as 6ft2, 6ft2½ and 6ft3 while Caine was given 6ft1, 6ft1½ and 6ft2.

Looking at both of them both together and in separate movies with a lot of the same actors, around the 6ft2 mark looks right for both. But if we were to technical, I just feel Sean may have been a 6ft2 and change dude (188-188.5cm) while Michael a shy of 6ft2 (187.5-188cm)

Rory said on 13/Jul/22
I don't think Connery was over 6ft2. I think he was just a bogstandard 6ft2 guy,I can't think of any instances where he convincingly looked over it.

5'7 and a bit said on 14/Jun/22
While Michael Caine may not quite been 6'2, however 6'1 3/4 is likelier than 6'1 1/2. If we go by 187 for Caine then Connery being 6'2 edging him actually makes sense. 6'1.5 is still a bit low for Connery tbh.

@Rampage(-_-_-)Clover
Completely agree with your estimates. A small touch under 6'2 for Caine, a small touch over 6'2 for Connery.
I would throw a few more names to that list being,
Timothy Dalton: 6'2 (flat)
George Lazenby: 6'1 7/8
Pierce Brosnan: 6'1 3/8

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 4/Jun/22
I maintain 6ft2-2¼ for mint condition Connery. Consistently taller than 6ft1 range dudes (e.g. Roger Moore, Gert Frobe and Charles Gray). At one point I thought 6ft2½ but that's earlier in the day stuff more likely. The Mr. Universe figure seems reputable enough as a mid-day measurement.

Now in the 90's (specifically around the period of The Rock right up to Entrapment) Sean was likely hovering somewhere within 6ft1½-2 and by the 2000's still within the 6ft1 zone. The last decade of his life is harder to decipher but I'd say when measured could still probably clear 6ft...

This is where I stand

Sean Connery: 6ft2⅛(188.3cm)

Gene Hackman: 6ft2(188cm)

Michael Caine: 6ft1⅞(187.3cm)

Roger Moore: 6ft1⅜(186.4cm)

Sinclair said on 3/Jun/22
I understand Viper’s 6’1.5” hypothesis. Weak 6’4” Donald Sutherland had a full two inches on Connery in The Great Train Robbery. However, I can equally appreciate the 6’2” claims. That is why I am now drawn to 6’1.75” as a compromise. Connery was also the tiniest fraction taller than 6’1.5” Michael Caine.

5'7 and a bit said on 17/May/22
I can understand why some may think little shy of 6'2 and go 6'1.75, but 6'1.5 is a bit low.

Sinclair, I have to agree with Rampage. They could vary now and then, however Desmond likely did have the edge overall.

Tech noir said on 15/May/22
6-2 on the button.

Toby Barrett said on 6/May/22
He Held Height Very Well Even In Later Life

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 6/May/22
Sinclair, Llewelyn and Connery could vary beside each other in the films...I’d definitely tick Desmond off as also a robust 6ft2 though. Could be a coin toss between who was really taller

Dawson though if you watch that scene is actually shorter than Connery, mind you he is slouching. Now he’s been described 6ft2 as well but I’d list him 6ft1½ maybe a weak 6ft2 at best, over 6ft1 for sure...but not taller than Connery.

Rob, what do you think?

5'7 and a bit said on 3/May/22
Easily 6'2, one of the most genuine 6'2s I've seen imo. Could get away looking 6'3 at times. I believe if he'd fell below 6'2, it would be barely anything.

RIP

viper said on 25/Apr/22
IMO 6-1.5

Sinclair said on 25/Apr/22
Probably 6’1.75” peak; 6’2” Anthony Dawson edges out Connery in Dr. No, as shown in the video below and solid 6’2” Desmond Llewelyn clearly edged out Connery in the next four Bond films.

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6’1.5” is getting into Michael Caine peak territory though, I thought Connery had the slightest edge on Caine in The Man Who Would Be King, even though Caine looked the stronger 6’1.5” at the 1989 Oscars, as seen below.

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Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Apr/22
Connery still looked 6ft2 well into the 90's though, at worst maybe 187.5cm.

I still think 188-188.5cm is right for his peak while Bowles could have been the full 189cm

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 14/Apr/22
Could pass for 189 cm in 'Murder on the Orient Express (1974)'. Miss Sandy Cowell - I expect you're a fan of this wonderful whodunit?

IceCold said on 13/Apr/22
Bowles listed 6'3 on Google

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 12/Apr/22
Editor Rob: Bowles is likely the stronger 6ft 2 compared to Sean.


Yeah, Peter Bowles looked minimum 6ft2, wouldn't rule out 189cm for him...possible edge on Sean

Sinclair said on 12/Apr/22
As I reckon Connery and Adam West were 6’2” peak at the absolute most and 6’1.5” at the absolute least, I guess I should alter my votes for them from 6’2” to 6’1.75”, as 6’1.75” is exactly in the middle of 6’1.5” and 6’2”.

Rapha said on 11/Apr/22
Hi Rob

I find that Connery looked a lot taller than the other Bond Actors. For example Moore or Dalton ( there were only 2 or 1 cm difference with Connery) Do you share that same opinion ?

Tall Sam said on 23/Mar/22
Yeah he held onto his height quite well for a while, still good height on Kevin Costner and Harrison Ford by the end of his 50s.

Bradley said on 21/Mar/22
Strong 6-2. Never hunched except firing his Walther PPK or drinking his dry martini.

Rory said on 21/Mar/22
Ian Bannen is probably six foot tops, can't at all see him measuring the 6ft1 he is listed in some parts. As for Hendry, I've always thought his 5ft10.75 listing is the most he could have been,10.5 is just as arguable for him I feel.

The offence is a good film, I felt at times in that Peter Bowles was edging Connery, but then there wasn't any clear cut scenes to judge between them plus Bowles probably had the better posture too. Both looked like tall, 6ft2 range men in the film though.

Sinclair said on 19/Mar/22
Rob, how tall would you say Ian Bannen was at peak? 6’0.75”?

I thought Connery had at least an inch on him in The Offence and Bannen had about two full inches on weak 5’11” Ian Hendry in The Hill.

OriginalAnon said on 4/Mar/22
Rampage Clover, Baldwin might have only been 180cm during his prime. I am not sure if he was 181cm. I don't think Connery looks a full 188cm with him there but the angle might have a part to play in that.

BoobleGooble said on 1/Mar/22
He always looked solid 6'2 and even in his last years he looked 6'0

Tajaun said on 26/Jan/22
Sulu2021 said on 7/Nov/21
Because about 20% of celebrity males are listed as 6ft 2 or taller on this site, this makes me think that roughly 20% of adult males in society have reached this height or taller in terms of their peak height making 6ft 2 actually be approximately in the 79th to 80th percentile.

🤦‍♂️ Please tell me you don't actually believe this.

Sonnecker said on 10/Jan/22
Sean was 6'2" and a quarter, about 189 in my opinion, easily. Considering posture and other factors, I see him as a strong 6'2".

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 18/Dec/21
Still looking a solid 6ft2 w/h Baldwin

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Michael187BarefootInTheMorning said on 3/Dec/21
I've normally see him get listed anywhere from 6'2 to 6'2.5.

I'm going to go right in the middle of those.... and say peak Sean Connery was 6'2.25"

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 23/Nov/21
Legit 6'2 peak

T.M. said on 22/Nov/21
Saw a photo of him with Trump. In that photo Don is around 6'0 3/4". Sean looks a bit taller than him. 6'1'' as he got older. 6'2'' peak

Original said on 20/Nov/21
Peaked at 6'2".

Chaoscontrol. said on 9/Nov/21
Sulu2021 said on 7/Nov/21
Because about 20% of celebrity males are listed as 6ft 2 or taller on this site, this makes me think that roughly 20% of adult males in society have reached this height or taller in terms of their peak height making 6ft 2 actually be approximately in the 79th to 80th percentile.
Editor Rob
maybe there's a greater amount of sports-related stars (basketball, wrestling etc) on the site which skews the perception of a greater amount of 6ft 2+ folk.

Yeah and also there’s more tall actors overall cause it’s an industry dependent on looks and physical presence

Sulu2021 said on 7/Nov/21
Because about 20% of celebrity males are listed as 6ft 2 or taller on this site, this makes me think that roughly 20% of adult males in society have reached this height or taller in terms of their peak height making 6ft 2 actually be approximately in the 79th to 80th percentile.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Oct/21
berta, I think in peak shape Connery fell somewhere within 188-188.5cm zone more so than 187cm (later in his career looked that more). He's on record as measuring 6ft2⅜ for a bodybuilding competition and I think it carries some weight like a bit earlier in the day.

berta said on 21/Oct/21
peak very legit 188, i guess maybe 188,3 if he got measured.

Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 17/Oct/21
RJT said on 6/Oct/21
@Editor Rob

Do you think 6'2 is the tallest height that is most frequently met in real life? The % of someone taller after 6'2 got dropped quite significant even on CH, you can see it on Scottish/Aussie actors. Quite a lot 6'2 actors but 6'2.5" and above got fewer....
Editor Rob
Yeah the percentage of course drops off sharply the higher we go. I do see a greater percentage of 6ft 1-2 men more often than 6ft 2-3 I feel.

6’3” is very tall, but I wouldn’t label it as a rare height. I’ve met quite a few people who are actually 6’3”-6’4”, and I was shocked when one of them revealed to me that they felt dissatisfied with their height. In this case, they didn’t feel tall enough.

In bigger cities, 6’3”-6’6” is definitely not too uncommon, unless we are talking about on a percentage basis. There’ll be a broader range of racial and ethnic demographics in major areas.

Hong said on 10/Oct/21
@Tall In The Saddle 👍

ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 8/Oct/21
RJT said on 6/Oct/21
@Editor Rob

Do you think 6'2 is the tallest height that is most frequently met in real life? The % of someone taller after 6'2 got dropped quite significant even on CH, you can see it on Scottish/Aussie actors. Quite a lot 6'2 actors but 6'2.5" and above got fewer..

Yeah I don’t often see guys taller than be but I see a lot who I edge out

Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Oct/21
@Hong

Sweet. Thanks. That's what I figured, confusion over size vs height, but I didn't want to confuse it further by trying to clear it on your behalf. Best to ask you clean, straight up. At any rate, I'm sure you know there's no problem if you were disagreeing, I just figured there were some crossed lines on this occasion.

Hong said on 6/Oct/21
@Tall In The Saddle,when you commented As far as overall size goes,massive Clint Walker wins the day hand's down,I misunderstood this to mean you were of the opinion Walker was tallest ,of Conners Parker and Arness,I myself agree Walker was the broadest of the lot,but Arness was the tallest.

RJT said on 6/Oct/21
@Editor Rob

Do you think 6'2 is the tallest height that is most frequently met in real life? The % of someone taller after 6'2 got dropped quite significant even on CH, you can see it on Scottish/Aussie actors. Quite a lot 6'2 actors but 6'2.5" and above got fewer....

Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Oct/21
@Hong

I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with. Could you quote what I said to clarify? Thanks bro.

Hong said on 1/Oct/21
Click Here @Tall In The Saddle,I have to disagree,Arness looked 3 inches taller than Wayne in BigJim Mclain.Arness in my opinion was a comfortable 6ft6.5 possibly 6ft7.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 30/Sep/21
Arch, in the 80’s-90’s he was looking more like a weak 6ft2

Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Sep/21
@avi

Yes, all notably tall 6'5" guys and actually very good actors IMO also who, despite Hollywood height prejudice, were still good enough to break through and find their respective niches in acting. As far as overall size goes, massive Clint Walker wins the day hands down.

avi said on 23/Sep/21
@Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Sep/21

Yes that is very true! It is the right to do so. I'm not one who goes out very much but it's having the freedom to do so.


And yes I think Connors would be 2 inches taller than Wayne. John Wayne was not a true 6'4. Wasn't far from it but more in 6'3 zone.

Clint walker I always thought 6'6 was a good listing. Some pictures next to 6'1 (maybe 6'0.75) Lee Marvin (they were in the Dirty Dozen movie I believe) indicates Walker was about 5 inches taller maybe 4.75
I suppose Walker could have been 6'5.75

Next to 6'1.5 listed James Gardner he was almost 4 inches taller with a slight weaker posture (looked up on Google images)

Nonetheless all those guys Arness, Walker, Parker, and Connors all over 6'5 for sure :)

Arch Stanton said on 14/Sep/21
Yeah his side parting hairdo in Remington didn't help! I'm siding with Brosnan over Corden haha!! Brosnan always looked very classy and elegant, very Rodeo Drive tailors sort of thing. I would rather look like an early 60s Connery than Brosnan personally, though I understand Connery was wearing a toupee even in the early films. Connery undoubtedly looked a real 6'2 back then, but with Rowan Atkinson in Never Say Never I'd say nearer 6'1.5.

Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Sep/21
@avi

Getting into some old series is a great goto during COVID. It’s funny, I’ve noticed some people who are home bodies anyway complain about not being able to go out. I guess it’s the psychology of a “right”, being taken away, even if said “right” isn’t generally exercised otherwise. LOL.

You’ve grouped them nicely, Arness, Connors, Walker and Parker. Very tall guys as perceived even now but particularly so for their eras. There was a tribute to old Western stars during the late 70s that included Wayne, Connors and Walker among others. Connors stood alongside the Duke and looked so much taller. Unfortunately, Walker stood on a higher step level so a direct comparison wasn’t possible. Too bad, to have those three guys on the same ground and in the same frame would’ve been cool.

Just me perhaps but I would’ve put money on Chuck edging Big Clint.
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Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Sep/21
Arch, he looks like a bit of a dork on Remington Steele...in his 30’s he could pass for a 17 year old but then in something like Taffin, Mr. Johnson or Live Wire (extremely cheesy movie though, about explosive water!) he started to mature in his looks...it was obvious the Bond execs had still kept the feelers out when they asked him a second time...if he’d had gone ahead in 1986 he probably have gone the same way as Lazenby...so probably the best thing to have happened, it wasn’t quite his time yet

Canson said on 11/Sep/21
I wonder what the “about” is all about. No pun intended. When he said about 6’2”. Is he just under? Or over?

James B 171.5 said on 11/Sep/21
arch-James cordon had a bad run in with pierce Bronson apparently

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 10/Sep/21
James, he was the most photogenic.

Arch Stanton said on 10/Sep/21
Brosnan I thought, particularly when younger looked very smarmy looking, as my mother said "peter perfect", a bit full of himself.

James B 171.5cm said on 10/Sep/21
Off topic but out of all the James bonds I’d say pierce brosnan was the most conventionally handsome (no homo)

avi said on 8/Sep/21
@Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Aug/21

I watched all The Rifleman episodes during Covid they had it on prime
Good show.

The boy (named Mark in the show) passed away this year.

Chuck Connors looked 6'5 to 6'6 in that show for sure . One episode he was mentioned as 6'6
So it makes sense he was 6'5.5

He basically is same as Arness and Walker
Fess Parker too is another one
All 6'5-6'6 guys
It's a massive height.

It's basically start of giantish in a way
People do not realize how big even 6'3-6'4 is
But once you hit 6'5 it's really another world.
I think more cons than pros unfortunately.

Hong said on 7/Sep/21
Click Here Here's Sean with 6ft listed Chris Walken,maybe it's footwear or something but they both look the same height?

Arch Stanton said on 7/Sep/21
Japan, China and India probably have some of the most brilliant minds on the planet though! Maybe they're among the most intelligent, but Sweden and Germany are exceptionally good particularly at engineering and construction etc.. The US loved having German and Swedish scientists emigrate there after WWII!

Arch Stanton said on 7/Sep/21
I think for Connery's generation the average was no more than 5 ft 8, I think Sinatra who was 15 years older at 5'7.5 would have been bang on average. 6 inches over the average height, he would have been considered very tall by woman and a lot of men.

Ian C. said on 18/Mar/21
Although Connery was a Scot, his parents (or at least his father) were Irish. (Celts and Gaels are probably pretty much alike anyway.) I have heard that Scots are either short tough guys or tall, burly caber-throwers. I have also heard that they eat the unhealthiest diet on Earth, although this opinion is food puritanism (which I reflexively deplore.)

While I'm on this kick, I've heard that the Germans are the toughest, and the Poles are the strongest and the French the most beautiful.

I am a Canadian, and we're the most prone to strange, whimsical opinions that can't be supported by real world research.

Seems rather generalised!!! I'm sure there's health nuts in Scotland like everywhere else and not everybody eats Deep Fried Mars Bars! Generalised from what I've seen I would say the Russians are the toughest, I would fear the Russian military or gangsters more than I would Americans. The Italians are easily the most beautiful in my opinion. Swedes and Germans the most intelligent.

viper said on 19/Aug/21
And yet today's generation growing up looks shorter, imo

Rory said on 18/Aug/21
@A Lawrence

I dont think 6ft2 is "very tall" today. Its still obviously tall but not remarkably so. Back When Connery was young though in the 1950s and 60s 6ft2 would have been nudging "very tall" range. Equivalent to say a 25 yr old 6ft4 guy today in the West.

Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Aug/21
@Canson

If you’re interested enough they’ve got a ton of complete episodes on YouTube among other old series which are good for height gaging.

You probably already know this, but anyway:-

If your television has the chrome cast app (if not already there you might be to download to tv) you can cast the vision to the big screen. Re YouTube videos. You’ll notice a small box with several arc lines emanating from the bottom left corner inside the box. These boxes appear on the main page of YouTube and and on every individual video. They appear right of centre at the top. Just tap the box and it will identify any eligible devices (viz your television hopefully) which you then select and the vid should then cast.

Otherwise you can pick up inexpensive adapters that plug into your iphone and then into your televisions HDMI port. There’s also a USB cable that plugs into your television to provide sufficient power for the audio visual transmission and keep your phone charging at the same time. A lot of people oversight plugging in the USB cable and the result is absolutely no vision or sound because the phones own battery power can’t carry vision and sound.

When cabled like this you can see whatever is currently appearing on your iPhone, be it Internet, YouTube, notes, personal photos, personal videos etc. Basically all features of your iPhone appearing on the big screen, so be careful in mixed company. Haha.

Anyway, hope that doesn’t so too convoluted. Ultimately it boils down to being as simple as tying a shoe lace but just as difficult to write down precise instructions for doing same. LOL.

Canson said on 4/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle: I appreciate your assessement and I agree with you. Lol I watch some of those old shows here in the US on Charge TV. That one isn’t on there though

Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Aug/21
@Canson

For now, I would go with the 6’5 1/2” listing but wouldn’t rule out a solid 6’5” because a legit 6’5” is still very tall IMO. Also, we know so many celebs inflate a bit so, by comparison, it might make Chuck appear even taller than he actually was. Back to back with Clint Walker, bare feet, it wouldn’t surprise me if they came out equal or even Chuck having the slightest edge. Really need to see more of Chuck though to back my opinion. There is the old series THE RIFLEMAN to check out but real life doesn’t necessarily afford me the time. LOL.

A Lawrence said on 3/Aug/21
Very tall man.

Canson said on 3/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle: speaking of Connors, where would you place him? You think a tweener? Strong 6’5/weak 6’6 like he’s listed Or you think he’s more just a solid 6’5”? He’s even trickier being he was an athlete so less likely to shave off the extra bit lol

Tall In The Saddle said on 2/Aug/21
@Canson

Thanks. Yeah, times have changed. I've read some of the old time actors were even reluctant to admit to 6'3" + even though we know of a good number of prominent actors standing thereabouts who gained stardom despite their perceived "disadvantage", LOL. 6'2" seemed to be a very desirable height back in the 1940s era, many actors claiming same even though they were clearly under the mark. I guess the next favorable benchmark was 6'4" with a few actors admitting to same and looking reasonably around that mark while others claiming same looked to be in between 6'3" to 6'4". I'll just add that Chuck Connors is another guy (at least for me) whose true height surprisingly unpacks on you the more you see of the man.

Canson said on 1/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle: well said! And with Napier, interestingly enough he’s even listed 6’6 on Google. That’s after claiming 6’5”. Funny that we are in an era now where 6’5 has become acceptable and desired. You see 6’2 guys like the Rock that claim(Ed) it lol. Napier may have known he was 6’6 and knocked an inch off deliberately. I will say that even with a 6’1.75 Connery being possible that Napier still looks 6’6. You said that well a very tall man that we never truly appreciated how tall he was

Tall In The Saddle said on 31/Jul/21
@Canson

I don't always have the height radar on. Seeing Napier in Batman I just thought, yeah, tall guy but didn't really appreciate exactly how tall he was.

Yeah, I wouldn't like to have to bet large money on who was taller between Connery and Hackman but at the same time I don't think we have any better evidence to actually settle such a bet. Only sufficient evidence to call them pretty much even I guess.

Canson said on 30/Jul/21
@Tall in the Saddle and Hong: interesting. Yea In that pic he definitely looks 6’6 like both of you alluded to. Connery’ s full 6’2 is debatable but he can look it imho. Then again he can look a hair under at times too. It’s funny and Tall in the Saddle and I have discussed before about Connery and Hackman. That one is touch and go imho

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 29/Jul/21
Sinclair, I think Putter could have been 6ft2 as well...there's no decent scenes of him and Connery standing together but he towers over Bruce. 6ft1½ minimum. He's a sloucher as well...

David Tang said on 23/Jul/21
6'2.125. rob how tall do you think he was before he died. i think he was 6ft. also, what percentile is 6ft for males?

Sinclair said on 18/Jul/21
Rob, would you say Putter Smith was closer to 6’1” or 6’2”?

It is plausible Bruce Glover was only 5’9” when compared to 5’11” Robert Wagner but that could make Putter Smith more 6’1” than 6’2”, as I saw roughly four inches between them in Diamonds Are Forever. I don’t think Smith was any taller than 6’2” Sean Connery and in the only scene good for their height comparison, when Connery walks past Smith and Glover carrying the urn, if anything, I would have guessed Sean a touch taller than Smith.

Dr Decker said on 17/Jul/21
Peak 6-2. Definitely

Hong said on 16/Jul/21
@TallIn The Saddle,Yeah in that pic Napier looks easley 6ft6 compared with 6ft2 Connery.

Tall In The Saddle said on 10/Jul/21
@Hong@Canson

Check this still for another perspective of Napier and Connery. Notice Napier breaking posture a bit with bent right leg. He's a bit closer to camera and there maybe a slight framing tilt in his favor. Otherwise, fully straight I'm guessing he would be easily looking over the top of Connery's head. I have Sean just shy of 6'2". That's just an opinion. For those who have Sean at 6'2" or a touch above, I would think from this photo they would calculate Napier to be 6'6 1/2" at the very least. Perhaps even closer to the 6'7" mark. LOL, I never appreciated how tall "Alfred" really was. Napier was in Big Jim McClain which starred Wayne and Arness. I wonder if there are any stand up scenes with any combination of them together.

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Hong said on 8/Jul/21
@Canson Napier did on many occasions discribe himself as 6ft5 but he does look more 6ft6 to me in comparison to Connery,maybe he was 6ft5.5 and just rounded down?

Canson said on 6/Jul/21
@Hong: I wonder if Napier wasn’t really just a strong 6’5 or weak 6’6 guy. Aka a 6’6 out of bed or 6’6 flat an hour out of bed. He claimed 6’5” and if we saw him with someone who’s height was verified, he didn’t usually come out at 6’6” at least imho. Maybe he was a 197cm range guy or a 196-197 guy who got listed 6’6” which is par for the course here being some 6’6 guys aren’t really 6’6” afternoon height

Hong said on 6/Jul/21
Click Here Here's Sean with 6ft6 listed Alan Napier.

Arch Stanton said on 3/Jul/21
Rik Van Nutter reminded me of Clint Eastwood in height and hair in Thunderball, Connery looked about 2 inches shorter.

Hong said on 2/Jul/21
Click Here the guy beside Sean is Rick Van Nutter he is listed as 6ft4.

Tall In The Saddle said on 25/Jun/21
@Hong

Yeah, that's right. Connery simply looked older with a prematurely receding hairline adding to the illusion but as he aged I think his appearance eventually matched nicely with his age. I think Clint E held his age well up to point but then seemed to age somewhat rapidly. You can only hold back Father Time for so long I guess. Funny, based on Moore taking over Bond, they used to suggest animosity between Connery and Moore when in fact they were very good friends along with Michael Caine. A drinking night out with those three would've been a hoot.

Hong said on 23/Jun/21
@Tall In The Saddle,Connery did seem older than Moore but in fact was 3 years younger.

Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Jun/21
@QM

I grew up during the Moore 007 era, at the time he was all I knew re Bond. I did a swap with a kid in primary school for a 007 ring. It was one of those rings that displayed “007” and then a picture of Bond when you tilted it. The picture was of Sean Connery. I didn’t know who he was and thought, as compared to Moore’s relatively youthful appearance, who’s this old guy? I’ve been duped! LOL. Wish I was more careful and held on to it. IMO, Sean was the best 007 but no indictment on Moore who played the role well in his own way.

Sinclair said on 16/Jun/21
Rob, how tall would you say Joseph Wiseman was?

I’d go with 6’1”, he was close to Connery’s height in Dr. No and had about an inch on 6’0” Alex Cord in Stiletto. There are many 6’0” listings for Wiseman but I believe these are too low.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 12/Jun/21
He was 189.5-187.5 cm (morning / evening).
The Great Bond. Cold-blooded. Strong. Tall.
But my favorite is Roger Moore: Sarcastically smiling comic-killer Bond ;)

Tall In The Saddle said on 2/Jun/21
@Canson

I agree Connery could look a very solid 6’2” at times. The photo with Atkinson linked by Hong testifies to that. The photo might be a bit misleading as to Connery’s true advantage over Rowan given angle and Atkinson’s reduced posture but there is an available clip from the movie on YouTube and while Connery doesn’t hold quite as much advantage over Atkinson it’s still enough for a 6’2” estimate IMO. The advantage he holds is similar to that held by Hugh Laurie over Atkinson. Hugh Laurie is listed at 6’2 1/4” on this site which is reasonably justified IMO.

Canson said on 28/May/21
@Viper: he could actually look 6’2”. Maybe at worst he fell just under the Mark to 6’1.75 or 6’1 7/8”

Hong said on 27/May/21
Click Here Here's Sean with 5ft11.25 listed Rowan Atkison.

viper said on 24/May/21
Not quite 6-2

6-1.5

Tall In The Saddle said on 24/May/21
I dunno. There aren’t any decent stills from the actual movie but if you watch Darby O’Gill and the Little People, it seems Sean, at best, is just on par with costar Kieron Moore who is listed as 6’1 1/2”. In some scenes Sean could look a touch shorter but possibly posture related. I mean it’s possible Sean had a slight edge that couldn’t be discerned but I still feel Sean was an all but 6’2” guy, meaning very close but not quite. There also stills seems to be the mantra that he was taller than Caine but little evidence to back it. The only time I saw Sean hold advantage over Caine was in the TMWWBK and I’ll admit, though slight, the advantage was clear in that instance at least.

Joey Diaz said on 16/May/21
This man was a legit 6’2 in his day. Without a doubt

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 8/May/21
Sylvya, I agree...Sean looked 6ft2 range into his 60's, went from 188-189cm zone to 187-188cm worst case...and still looked over 6ft1 around 15 years ago. His loss was gradual, like Caine

Sylvya Ford said on 30/Apr/21
he needs an upgrade he is 6ft 2.25

Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Apr/21
Yeah, Ali was very funny when he was younger, fresher and original. In later years he got into some heavy recycling of old jokes. I don’t how many different opponents managed to shake his kinfolk in Africa. LOL. His “Total eclipse of the Sonny” re Liston was a good line but his cornerman Drew Bundini had a hand in a few of those. .

When he fought Cooper the first time in Wembley he wore a crown into the ring and said “You’ve got a Queen, you need a King!”. Even little old ladies interviewed on the street pleaded to ‘Enry to knock the big mouth out. LOL. Ali talked the fight up after the fact saying even Cleopatra was there (Liz Taylor). He said her presence distracted him and that’s how he got caught by the left hook. Yes, very funny man back in the day.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Apr/21
@Tall In The Saddle: stand up comedian though...definitely had potential.

Tall In The Saddle said on 9/Apr/21
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 8/Apr/21
Ali would be a dreadful actor.....no offence.

LOL. I'm not going to disagree. He did do some acting. Let's just say, he was a great boxer. Made Jim Brown look like Olivier.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 8/Apr/21
Ali would be a dreadful actor.....no offence.

Tall In The Saddle said on 7/Apr/21
The first shot of Connery and Poitier has too much off centre stuff going on to make any sort of comparison. Great photo though.

The second shot actually has them appear basically even. Anyway in the overall scheme of things from what I’ve seen Poitier would have the edge on Sean. Alongside young Ali, Poitier looked near on par but Muhammad might’ve held the slightest of edges.

Re Poitier, Ali said he would’ve gone into acting except for the fact that there was already a great looking black actor in Hollywood. LOL, at least one time Ali was not fixated on himself as being the prettiest! Could you imagine a young Ali in GUESS WHO’S COMING TO DINNER?

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 1/Apr/21
Arch, I think Connery hung around 6ft2 right up to the 90's...but you could argue he was a weaker 6ft2 in those days compared to the 60's-70's where he looked more like a solid/strong 6ft2.

Heston, Poitier and Freeman were probably 6ft2½ guys so yeah they would've edged Connery

Here's a couple of photos of Sean and Sidney, one when they were both at peak, the other later on

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The first one's a bit awkward but overall Sidney appears to be the taller one...there aren't any photos of Sean with Morgan or Charlton

Canson said on 31/Mar/21
@Arch: I don’t think a strong 6’2 either but also not a strong 6’1. I’d say right at 6’2” peak height or maybe a hair under at worst. Same with Hackman

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 30/Mar/21
Strong 6ft1 in his 70's

Arch Stanton said on 29/Mar/21
I never thought Connery looked a strong 6'2 either. A guy like Sidney Poitier or Morgan Freeman or Charlton Heston is what you'd call a strong 6'2 looking guy. I do think 6'2 or slightly under is most likely.

viper said on 28/Mar/21
He looked a strong 6-1, not a strong 6-2

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 27/Mar/21
Rob, could Putter Smith get a page?

I'd put him at 6ft2...looked tall but I can't remember if he shared any real screen time with Connery where you can compare them....he's mainly a blues player who Guy Hamilton discovered by accident in a Beverly Hills club....obviously saw potential right away though...the dodgy skullet hairdo, moustache and glasses naturally made for a creepy Bond villain....the height helped aswell...he definitely had a good few inches on Bruce Glover a.k.a Mr. Wint (father of Julian Glover) who I reckon was 5ft9 range peak (listed 5ft10 in place, not as sure on that though), I'd consider giving him a page aswell....whenever I think of Diamonds Are Forever, the two of them holding hands in the desert are the first thing that come to mind and the haunting music as well...

Sonnecker said on 26/Mar/21
Sean Connery saved considerably his height from decrease, probably helped by a good genetic. For most of his life he looked a strong 6'2", considering his slouching posture in many roles. More 189 than 188. In his later years he still looked well over 6'1"...

Jug said on 23/Mar/21
@Ian C. -- Connery might be an Irish name. So he was Scots-Irish essentially. Not sure what you mean by Celts and Gaels, though. Celts, Gaels, Gauls, etc are all the same people (these are just variations of the same word). They settled in different islands but all originated in continental Europe (hence France was once known as Gaul--and Brittany is named after the Celtic Brits who would later populate the British Isles). Not sure if the Picts were Celts or not but the Anglo-Saxons are definitely a different ethnic group, having originated in Denmark. They settled in Britain in the Middle Ages. Anyways, I would still give Connery 6'1.5 (to Michael Caine's 6'2, having given The Man Who Would Be King another look).

Ian C. said on 18/Mar/21
Although Connery was a Scot, his parents (or at least his father) were Irish. (Celts and Gaels are probably pretty much alike anyway.) I have heard that Scots are either short tough guys or tall, burly caber-throwers. I have also heard that they eat the unhealthiest diet on Earth, although this opinion is food puritanism (which I reflexively deplore.)

While I'm on this kick, I've heard that the Germans are the toughest, and the Poles are the strongest and the French the most beautiful.

I am a Canadian, and we're the most prone to strange, whimsical opinions that can't be supported by real world research.

JamesFreakingBond said on 17/Mar/21
Ok so I know that Connery was a solid 6'2 in his prime. But is it just me, or did he look a little under the 6'2 mark at times in YOLT? Ik he probably lost a bit of height by DAF, but there were times in YOLT where Connery didn't strike me as a solid 6'2 compared to how I saw him in Dr no-Thunderball. Again, maybe it's just me.

Connery was also 37 at the time of YOLT, so it's very unlikely he lost any height. Maybe bad posture on his end or just a bad estimate on my end.

Sinclair said on 17/Mar/21
Rob, how tall would you say Putter Smith is?

In Diamonds Are Forever, Smith seemed a similar height range to Connery. I could believe 6’2” for both.

Tall In The Saddle said on 14/Mar/21
Actually I think the actual problem is many people say Connery was taller than Caine but no one is producing any vision to uphold that opinion.

I myself linked a clip from the THE MAN WHO WOULD BE KING. It’s the only fair evidence I’ve seen supporting Connery holding an edge over Caine. Otherwise it’s not so apparent and there are some pics which even suggest Caine holding the edge but the angles aren’t perfect.

Jtm said on 13/Mar/21
The problem is stiggles he was taller than Caine.

Steven Stinson said on 20/Feb/21
Rob how tall do you think Sean was before his death? 6ft2 Peak anyway

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 9/Feb/21
6ft1 peak is laughable...looked comfortably above that even 12-15 years ago

stefkat said on 28/Jan/21
Rob how much shorter is the man on the left ? Click Here

stiggles said on 26/Jan/21
No more than 6ft 1 in his prime.. much the same as Michael Caine..

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 22/Jan/21
I think he held on to 6ft2 throughout The Untouchables, Presidio and Last Crusade years....heck even in The Rock he still looked it!

The5'11Dude said on 12/Jan/21
Solid 6'2 in his peak, I think he was the tallest of all the James Bond actors, with Dalton close behind. By the time of Indiana Jones, The Untouchables, and The Rock, I think Sean still pulled off 6'1 range.

Jac poitier said on 9/Jan/21
How tall is that for a Scotsman? What's the average height in his country? I'd say among the most famous Scottish actors (McGregor, Rob Carlyle, McAvoy, Cumming, all about 5'9 or under), he's by far the tallest one.

Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Jan/21
@Hong

Another great pic and a strong case for about 6’2” for Connery after allowing for some height loss for Grant. One star on the other side of peak and the other heading toward his own mega stardom.

Hong said on 1/Jan/21
Click Here Here's Sean with 6ft1 listed Cary Grant

Rory said on 30/Dec/20
If you watch the film Anderson Tapes you'd see that Connery has at least 1.5 inches on Walken.

Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Dec/20
@pjk

Reasonably, more than one photo is required to estimate. There's not many pics of Connery and Walken together and of what there is, they're not great for estimation. While Walken might appear to scratch up well next to Sean, as per multiple photos, Walken was shorter than Voight and Connery was taller than Voight. Sean def. was notably taller than 6 foot even but I do suspect that Walken stood a little better than 6 feet himself anyway.

pjk said on 20/Dec/20
Same height as christopher walken (6ft flat). Just searched photo of them together. that translates to 2" more on screen ( unless you tell the truth like christopher ).
6'2" is nonsense.

Tall In The Saddle said on 18/Dec/20
Recently caught Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. Villain Julian Glover is listed as 6'2". In different scenes, Connery and Glover appeared to hold the same height advantage over Harrison Ford. Notably, in other scenes, Connery "collapsed" his posture somewhat giving the illusion that Ford was closer in height than he actually was.

Not many scenes with Glover and Connery actually together. In the final scene, it appears Glover is standing on slightly higher ground so he does appear taller. However, he walks around both Connery and Ford and when he does so, he actually then appears a touch shorter than Connery as he walks behind him. I've seen photos in which Connery appears clearly taller than Moore while in others there is less to choose between them. Any chance Roger wore lifts in his later years?

Jug said on 4/Dec/20
Unpopular opinion: I really don't think more than 6'1.5. Standing next to strong 6'2 actors (like Peter Boyle in Outland) he was slightly shorter. Donald Sutherland looked more than two inches taller in The Great Train Robbery. He looked the same height as Michael Caine (also probably less than 6'2) in The Man Who Would Be King. Looked slightly taller than Roger Moore (never more than 6'1) in photos of them together. Martin Landau looked the same height or slightly taller in Meteor, as did Karl Malden.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/Dec/20
Somewhere in that 188-188.5cm area when young is still my verdict. That Mr. Universe measurement of almost 6ft2½ sounds like a legit barefoot (Earlier in the day though probably). I can believe big Sean in his 30’s could have hit 6ft3 first thing.

Through 80’s-90’s still generally looked 6ft2 but more likely was on the weaker side of it, could look more 187cm.

Still looked 6ft1-2 range 15 years ago I’d have said...did better than most of his contemporaries who have shipped 3in+

Lenad 5ft9.75in said on 1/Dec/20
I think a weak 188cm or even strong 188cm is a good guess for a young connery.

Tall In The Saddle said on 20/Nov/20
@Lenad

Yeah, I would agree at least 6'1.5". Over many comparisons averaged out, I've pegged Sean at 6'1.75" max. for a while but I have to admit there are some comparisons in their own right which can suggest a solid 6'2" (as per my prev. post).

It always comes down to the actual heights of the people whose height is being compared. Say Gene Hackman. While Sean might've edged Hackman in reality I also don't think Gene was a full 6'2" himself. I haven't seen the movie OUTLAND but some observers suggest that Peter Boyle slightly edged Sean out and Boyle is listed 6'2 1/4" on this site, which seems a nice fit between them but possibly the absolute height listings are incorrect if Sean himself wasn't the full 6'2". Personally, my vibe for Boyle was 6'2" at absolute max. and I personally haven't seen enough visual evidence to say if he was or wasn't taller than Connery. Anyway, just one person's opinion.

Vincent Caleb said on 20/Nov/20
@Arch Stanton:
He was incredible in the untouchables. Very deserving of his Oscar.

Lenad 5ft9.75in said on 20/Nov/20
Its been said the James Bond tailors had him at 6'1 1/2 barefoot. And he was consistently described as 6'2 and he looked pretty tall. Maybe he got measured at 6'1 1/2 with a bit of bad posture, but I would say he was at least the 6'1 1/2 that was claimed.

Arch Stanton said on 16/Nov/20
I didn't say he wasn't a good actor Ian.... He wanted to avoid being typecast, that was his main reason for branching out...

Ian C. said on 10/Nov/20
Connery was an accomplished actor Arch. Name me a move where he turned in an indifferent performance. He's got a few nonBonds where he was playing real characters: The Anderson Tapes, The Wind and the Lion, The Hill, Robin and Marian. There are probably others. He did care about money-that's why he became a tax exile from the U.K., but you didn't catch him loafing through movies on the strength of his persona, like John Wayne or Clint Eastwood. (Although Eastwood had become a very good director, it must be said.)

If Connery had a personal weakness you might argue that it was women. His wives had to bear a lot of infidelity, it is said. But you didn't catch him getting drunk in public, or eating himself into obesity like Gerard Depardieu or Marlon Brando or Oliver Reed. All in all a well-disciplined, serious man.

Tall In The Saddle said on 10/Nov/20
I think Connery was reasonably invested in the artsy side of acting. BOND was making him oodles of money and he could've sat on that for longer than he did.

Sean wanted to break out and branch out, expressly seeking release to make other, more meaningful films, with the view to ultimately leaving 007 behind. Of course Sean was NEVER going to make any movie for free, notwithstanding the level of job satisfaction. He squeezed as much dime as possible out of every role, as was his right. Dual purposed, so to speak.

Of course, they're currently playing BOND reruns. It's actually funny to see the original 007 using assorted villainesses to shield himself from bullets, etc. and then discarding them like rag dolls, particularly with the juxtaposed image of Mike Myers exaggerating same in his Austin Powers movies.

Arch Stanton said on 10/Nov/20
Ian C. said on 7/Nov/20
One of the more interesting things about Connery is that, for most of his youth, he was poor. Before he was cast as Bond he had had a few supporting roles in movies, for which he was paid very little. He was married for the first time when he was 32, because he couldn't support a wife until he was much older than the average age of marriage for British men of his generation.

He ended up so wealthy that he could give away millions of dollars. Show business is terribly cruel because it leaves people who fail within it underpaid and forgotten. Then it makes stars of some people, and makes them wealthy beyond anyone's real needs.

Impression I got was that acting for Connery was more about the money and living a good life in luxury given his background. From what I've read I don't think he was overjoyed with the filmmaking process, and wasn't interested in the glamour of Hollywood. I would say Michael Caine was more an actor who took acting very seriously and treated it more like an art.

J2Frenzy said on 8/Nov/20
RIP Sean

Slim 6'1" said on 7/Nov/20
Rip James Bond

Ian C. said on 7/Nov/20
One of the more interesting things about Connery is that, for most of his youth, he was poor. Before he was cast as Bond he had had a few supporting roles in movies, for which he was paid very little. He was married for the first time when he was 32, because he couldn't support a wife until he was much older than the average age of marriage for British men of his generation.

He ended up so wealthy that he could give away millions of dollars. Show business is terribly cruel because it leaves people who fail within it underpaid and forgotten. Then it makes stars of some people, and makes them wealthy beyond anyone's real needs.

Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Nov/20
Let’s not forget Sean’s brief but memorable turn in THE TIME BANDITS or his role in DARBY O’GILL AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE. Worthy to note, his costar in the latter film, Janet Munro, was pretty hot IMO.

Ian C. said on 4/Nov/20
So, on hearing of Connery's death, I got out the DVD collection and reviewed a few favourites. (The Wind and the Lion is the best, I think.) He seemed to take acting very seriously, and probably considered James Bond a real role, and not just a silly movie character. He played it straight, unlike Roger Moore, who just showed up, said his lines and looked pretty.

What was the deal with his accent? You're Scottish, Rob. Have you ever heard anyone speak with Connery's accent? My guess is that that accent was a failed attempt at BBC-style upper class English.

Miss Sandy Cowell said on 4/Nov/20
I thought he was great in 'Marnie'.

I'm casting my mind back 15 years to how much I laughed at his drunken antics and how much they pi$$ed his neighbours off! I read about it in my Dad's Daily Express and LMAO.

Sean - you will be missed.

Tall Sam said on 3/Nov/20
I'd add that it didn't hurt his macho reputation one bit despite it being pretty well known early on that he was a bald guy often in a hair piece.

GTB172cm said on 3/Nov/20
A strong 6’2 at his peak, died at strong 5’11.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/Nov/20
We will never see his kind again. I saw photos of him about a year ago and feared the end wasn't too far, he just looked so frail and not in great health...but onscreen he is immortal and I am so jealous of those who are yet to discover this great man's work from 007 to Marnie, The Offence, The Man Who Would Be King, Hunt For Red October...even Zardoz! He was a powerhouse in every sense of the word. Arch said it best, he oozed masculinity out of every Celtic pore. Guys wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him...Connery, Hackman, Caine, Newman, Harris, O'Toole even Roger Moore to a degree...no one has come close to doing it the way they did it...legends

Canson said on 2/Nov/20
@Tall in the Saddle: I’m curious too. It’s very sad that a lot of celebs have passed this year. Not many from Covid, of course but the Virus has caused other issues as the hospitals are flooded and can’t otherwise house those with natural causes. 90 is impressive though

Arch Stanton said on 2/Nov/20
RIP indeed. He's one I've been very aware of that could die though for a long time! One of the most iconic and most admired men of the 20th century. Every teenage boy wanted to be him or a guy who would get that sort of attention from women! The way Shirley Eaton looked at him in Goldfinger!! Dictionary definition of macho/masculinity. I could imagine at times he was rude and difficult, brutally honest, but a very solid guy. I'm sure Rob and Scotland are very proud of him.

Hulk.23 said on 1/Nov/20
RIP Sean :(((

Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 1/Nov/20
R.I.P Sean Connery the legend and the Best James Bond ever.

Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Nov/20
PS - I should note that I believe the proceeds from all the lawsuits were donated to charity. Sean also donated his 1 million up front fee for DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER 1971 (ball park equivalent, 6.5 million today) to a Scottish education fund. Atop that, he also negotiated a weekly salary of $10,000 plus financing for the next two films of his choice. Sean knew only too well the value of his hard earned money and brand but was still clearly a well considered philanthropist and charitable man.

Tall In The Saddle said on 31/Oct/20
I'll admit, I am one to look up cause of death, even given such an advanced age. Natural curiosity. The family has not released same and, of course, there is no reason or obligation to ever do so. You only have to ask yourself would you publicize same if in the same position?

His son Jason said that Sean had not been well for some time. One would hope that his final years were still of reasonable quality and it certainly seems he was surrounded by a loving and caring family. He came a very long way from very humble beginnings. A sentiment expressed in one of his BIOs always made me laugh, a childhood friend said that they were all as happy as pigs in sh*t UNTIL they were informed that they were impoverished. LOL.

Also, I've read that he never lost any of the lawsuits he launched against movie producers when he felt he was being short changed or ill treated. A true Scot.

Tall Sam said on 31/Oct/20
RIP Sir Sean. Think my favorite of his films that are lesser known or seen are The Hill and The Man Who Would Be King, besides his legendary turns in the Bond films, Untouchables and Indiana Jones.

He was always roguishly charismatic and likable despite being arrogant and rough (including with the ladies), on and off screen. The ultimate manly badass, basically.

Eric W Tam said on 31/Oct/20
Rest in power legend! Stood a mighty 6'2 for most of his life. Say, Rob, a peak height vs current height option was long overdue for Connery, don't you think? Xd.

Vincent Caleb said on 31/Oct/20
Rip. Great actor, even greater man.

Miss Sandy Cowell said on 31/Oct/20
I'm gutted. Such a fabulous actor and the best Bond ever. 😢

RIP Sean XXX 🕯️
(25/8/1930 - 31/8/2020)

VitoCheng said on 31/Oct/20
Time may take away such a great man, but I believe he will live better when he arrives in heaven. I wish to go all the way,

As a 6-foot-2 man, I believe his integrity is true forever
Rip for the most classic legend James Bond
Sean Connery
1930-2020

Sulu2020 said on 31/Oct/20
Hey Rob, when a celebrity passes away, it won't show their final height and their peak height together. These two height listings shown together on this site will only apply to older celebrities still living today.

Canson said on 31/Oct/20
Sad news this morning. Rest In Peace

grizz said on 31/Oct/20
R.I.P. legend!
Regarding his height, only one of the few who lost just a bit of his prime height.
Classic 6'2

Johnny 181-182 cm said on 31/Oct/20
RIP. He was my favorite Bond. I had a man crush on him when I was a teenager. Amazing actor.

QM6'1QM said on 31/Oct/20
RIP, Mister Bond.
Heaven Bless You.

187 cm range as peak.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 31/Oct/20
:(

Can't believe it. RIP lad#


1930-2020, 188.6cm

James B 172c, said on 31/Oct/20
RIP Sean

Best bond ever

Ricky Spanish said on 31/Oct/20
RIP. One of the most talented actors I have ever seen. Solid 6ft 2

Tall In The Saddle said on 24/Oct/20
No recent photos to judge Connery against known height. In general, in his own right and among people, he looks to be doing a lot better than Eastwood and most likely not under 6 feet. Last solid comparison I remember was next to Andy Murray who is supposed to be about 6'2". Sean appeared to be dropping up to 1". That was back in 2012 when Sean was a sprite 82 yo.

Tall In The Saddle said on 23/Oct/20
There haven't been any good photos in years to estimate Connery's height though it's assumed he's lost some more since we last saw him next to someone of reasonably known height. I can only recall the Andy Murray photos and Sean might've been dropping up to 1" to Murray who was about 6'2". Those photos were in 2012 when Sean was 82 yo. Stand alone and next to people of unknown exact height, Sean looks to be holding up well in stature, not below 6 feet. IMO, on the other hand, even in stand alone photos and those next to the general public, Clint Eastwood's height loss is still very obvious.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 22/Oct/20
Hard to say really. No decent photos to gauge his current height. I wouldn't say less than 6ft though. He was still looking over 6ft1 12-15 years ago

Mimi said on 19/Oct/20
Rob if you were to give him a current height, do you think he's 6ft now or a bit below that?

Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Oct/20
@6'3" Julian

I understood where you were coming from. Thus LOL. I moved with it lightheartedly. I thought Sean's "get up" from ZARDOZ fit the wrestling theme perfectly.

6'3 Julian said on 13/Oct/20
@Tall In The Saddle I was doing wrestling style commentary

Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Oct/20
@6'3" Julian
LOL. Craig knew he was a beaten man as soon as Connery entered the arena in full ZARDOZ costume.

6'3 Julian said on 2/Oct/20
@Tall In The Saddle “BAH GAWD ITS SEAN CONNERY! HE BROKE DANIEL CRAIG IN HALF!”

Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Sep/20
Connery has the well corroborated incident, involving gangster Johnny Stompanato, to back his reputation as a guy not to be messed with in real life. As Lana Turner's BF, a jealous Stompanato stormed onto set brandishing a gun in co star Sean's general direction. Big Tam promptly twisted the mobster's wrist forcing him to drop the weapon. Sans ultimate kill, that's some real life 007 stuff right there, neither shaken or stirred.

The round robin concept of Bond v Bond is cool. PPV through the roof. For expediency, perhaps a Battle "Royale" could also suffice. I would throw in a special wild card entrant, Robert Mitchum, just for the hell of it.

Phil Semple said on 22/Sep/20
Connery is very tall, even in his 80s. I saw pictures of him when he was 86 years old and he towered over almost everyone in the room. I honestly think he's 6'2 even now

Ian C. said on 17/Sep/20
Oops. I just looked it up and Robert Shaw was English. I thought he was Irish because he played an Irishman at least four times (From Russia With Love, The Luck of Ginger Coffey, Jaws and The Sting) and he was a big, beefy guy who drank a lot. Uh, not that the Irish drink a lot.

Ian C. said on 17/Sep/20
The fight on the Orient Express in From Russia With Love between Bond and Donovan Grant is still one of the most violent fights in movie history. In the book, Grant is so overpowering that Bond doesn't try to fight him. He plays dead and then suddenly stabs Grant, who then bleeds to death. In the movie, Robert Shaw, who plays Grant, is introduced wearing a towel, and we are supposed to be impressed with his physique. Unfortunately we also see Connery wearing a towel later in the movie, and Connery is taller and stronger than Shaw. (Who walks with a limp.) So, if you think about it, you might say, it wasn't fair that that big Scot beat up on that smaller, slightly crippled Irishman. But it's a really mean fight though.

Tall Sam said on 14/Sep/20
Yeah, Connery and Craig can be so brutal, almost thuggish at times that I'm almost rooting for Bond to be bested in some of their films. Connery is always going to be the best and most quintessential Bond there was.

Animus said on 12/Sep/20
@Ian C

Very interesting, I think you might be right. I certainly have an impression of Mr Connery as an exceptionally tough man, vastly tougher than the other Bonds. I'm not sure why, though. He certainly manages to convey a certain savage machismo (combined with a sharp mind) in many of his roles, which I mean in the best sense possible. It's an exceedingly rare quality to see in men today; today, you probably only find this combination of brute toughness and intelligence within the special forces. I just saw him in "The Untouchables" and even though he is about 57 years old in that movie, he retains a certain pugilistic, no-nonsense attitude along with great elegance, dignity and intellect. Quite an impressive man, I see no contemporary actors who can really match him on all dimensions.

Ian C. said on 12/Sep/20
Connery's defining moment as a physically imposing man happens in From Russia With Love, when Bond approaches Tatiana for the first time, wearing only a towel around his waist. He looks like a champion tennis player-extraordinarily lithe, graceful, muscular and strong. And six foot two. (I think he might have been 34 at that time.) None of the other Bonds had that particular collection of gifts, although Daniel Craig might have come close.

I take your point, Tall Sam, that Moore was a strong man, but whatever physical gifts he had were negated by his affected, rather prissy personality. It's as if the producers of the Bond movies had decided that James Bond's single defining trait was good looks, and forgot all the other ones, such as that he was a violent thug with a license to commit murder.

Tall Sam said on 11/Sep/20
I was surprised to read the account of Roger Moore's shocking strength from Lee Marvin because he always struck me as the least imposing Bond. However, I've read that Marvin, despite being a tough war veteran, was kind of physically feeble and unreliable when he made The Professionals due to his alcoholism. I do think Connery would've been hard to beat by the other Bonds.

Ian C. said on 9/Sep/20
Here's an interesting thought experiment: Assemble all the actors who played James Bond, endow them (in a magical machine) with the physiques and physical capacities they had in their early thirties, and have them fight it out in a round robin tournament of hand-to-hand combat with no rules. Connery would win going away. He was the biggest and brawniest and meanest of all the Bonds. Craig is similarly strong, athletic and tough, but smaller than Connery. Brosnan, Lazenby and Dalton were all rather ordinary men. Moore, despite good size and strength, seemed to have no capacity for violence at all, and likely went his whole life without ever getting into so much a shoving match.

Ian C. said on 8/Sep/20
There was a researcher named William Sheldon, who coined the terms ectomorph, mesomorph and endomorph. Sheldon developed a three digit system for describing people's body types, and Connery's body type would have been a 254. (Never mind how that is determined, as it doesn't really matter.) Sheldon picked that body type (out of a menu of 88 possible types) as the one he considered the most advantageous overall. (Extreme mesomorphs, who are the kind of men who play professional baseball and football, are prone to heart disease and various kinds of cancer in their sixties.) So Connery living so long and in such good health may be a function of extraordinarily lucky genes.

Newman said on 30/Aug/20
I can see the debate about Connery's height rages on to this day.

I came across the link below which I think some of you may find interesting regarding this topic:
Click Here

The guy on the left used to work for Darlington Council about 13-14 years ago when I worked there [he may still do]. I didn't know the fella but used to see him in a local gym in the town centre.
One of my colleagues who I trained with mentioned he worked in one of our departments but was also a "Sean Connery lookalike" which made both of us s a bit.

Saw this photo yesterday of him with the man himself which I'm guessing must be 10+ years old. As I say, I didn't know the fella to talk to but have stood next to him in the gym or walked past him plenty of times. I would say he is [was] between 5'11 and a half to 6ft tall. I remember he was a well built chap too; into the weights and all that. Connery looks at least 1.5-2 inches taller in the photo and broader too. I guess the real Mister Bond was the full 6ft 2 in his prime and a broad shouldered fella to boot. Certainly bigger than I thought he was.

Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Aug/20
Yes, the big 90 for Big Tam. Unless I am missing someone, that rounds out the big 3, following fellow nonagenarians Eastwood and Hackman.

His wife is the "older" woman at 91. I love how they refer to some celebrities of similarly advanced ages as "reclusive" if they're not necessarily presenting to the paparazzi anymore. Suffice to say, Sean was never thrilled with them at any time of his life. LOL. At around 90, "reclusive" is often par for the course, not least due to age related incapacitation. Of course, Clint Eastwood is obviously an exception to the rule.

This link includes pics of Sean apparently taken recently, his first time in "public" for 3 years. Looks pretty good for 90, imo. Click Here

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Aug/20
Hit the 9️⃣0️⃣ today

Sinclair said on 25/Aug/20
Rob, who would you say was tallest and shortest out of Connery, Michael Caine and Gene Hackman, in the 1960s?

Happy 90th Birthday to Sean Connery (my favourite James Bond). After having watched The First Great Train Robbery, I got the impression Connery was more 6’1.5” than 6’2” by that time because Donald Sutherland looked a full two inches taller than Connery and I think Sutherland was 6’3.5” at his peak. However, in The Untouchables, Connery still has one inch on 6’1” listed Kevin Costner. Perhaps Costner was never a full 6’1”.

I still firmly stand by the full 6’2” for Connery, from his youth up until the 1970s. Diamonds Are Forever was Connery’s first film where I noticed he could have started to lose some height as I thought Jimmy Dean had more than one inch on Connery (although, Connery’s posture was rather relaxed in that film).

VitoCheng said on 13/Aug/20
If Arnold’s body can be as strong as Connery, it's really 😉 188🆚188
But when Arnold meets Connery, will an embarrassing scene happen, do you think? Rob

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 6/Aug/20
In Never Say Never he could look more 187cm. In the 80’s-90’s you could argue he was starting to dip under 6ft2.

Sinclair said on 4/Aug/20
I agree with the full 6'2" listing for Connery. I am aware of the 6'1.5" measurement coming from the Bond tailors, but my opinion is that when Connery was measured that time, he was either not standing at his fullest potential or the measurement was taken in the evening when he may have been closer to 6'1.5". I believe Connery would have cleared at least a flat 6'2" sometime during the day, when he was in his 20s and 30s. I also think Connery was a tad taller than Michael Caine in The Man Who Would Be King.

Hulk.23 said on 31/Jul/20
Perfect example of a 6’2/188cm actor and even of a great actor.

Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Jul/20
@Rampage
I don't doubt you but could you point me to that Mr Universe 6'2 3/8" listing? Very interesting.
A contest rating physical attributes surely wouldn't allow self reporting nor measurement in footwear. Not trying to fit it to my estimate (6'1.5" to 6'1.75"), but I might've guessed about 6'2 3/8" for Connery in shoes, not bare feet.
If the bottom limit for the TALL class was a barefoot 5'11.75" and strictly upheld, then I would say that Sean appears to be standing a very solid 6'2" as compared to the shortest contestants in the barefoot line up.

Arch Stanton said on 29/Jul/20
What I hadn't noticed before is how smitten Connery was with Kim Basinger. Seriously smitten! The massage scene he was clearly in his element!! Who can blame him, in the 80s and 90s Kim was one of the most beautiful women in the world!

Arch Stanton said on 29/Jul/20
I was watching Never Say Never Again last night and I thought Connery looked closer to 6'1.5 with Rowan Atkinson, he was about 53 at the time. Barbara Carrera also didn't look 6 inches shorter barefoot with him. In some scenes with Klaus Maria though he did look a full 6'2. Could look a decent 6'2 in his prime but I can also see a smidge under 6'2 being possible.

Rory said on 25/Jul/20
Nobodies ever properly verified that 6ft1.5 measurement/description so I'm a bit sceptical of it. To me peak Connery looked like a textbook 6ft2 guy.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Jul/20
6ft2⅜ listing from Mr Universe seems more reliable to me...

Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Jul/20
@Viper

Yeah, maybe that's where I read or heard that. 6'1.5" from Bond Tailors. I guess aside from medical records, Tailors can represent a somewhat reliable source for a celebrity's true height.

It would be interesting to see the stats recorded for Sean for the 1953 NABBA Amateur Mr. Universe contest. Apparently Sean competed in the so called Tall class, contestants being 5'11.75" and above.

I could only find these stats which unfortunately did not include Sean's all important height - nearly 23 years of age, weighing 200 pounds and with chest 48”, thigh 25”, and arms 15 1/4". Must be more out there one would think.

Mister lennon said on 16/Jul/20
He was totally 6'2 peak. 188-189. He looked it and he was it.
Maybe flat 6'2, but true 6'2.

viper said on 13/Jul/20
Bond Tailors had him at 6-1.5

I believe it. He never was 6-2

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 12/Jul/20
80’s-90’s Connery you could argue was a little shy of 6ft2

Tall Sam said on 10/Jul/20
I don't think I've seen Connery listed as 6'1.5" but I think 6'1.75" range would be believable for him.

viper said on 10/Jul/20
A 186-187cm guy

Not 6-2

Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jul/20
All in all, I still can't confidently say that Connery was a solid 6'2". More like 6'1.5" to 6'1.75".

Could be wrong but I seem to recall Connery being listed as 6'1.5" in early bios. I keep reading that Sean was clearly taller than Caine but no one is supplying any vision or stills in support of that observation. Most often I see Connery as equal to Caine at best and sometimes a touch shorter.

Some time back I linked a scene from THE MAN WHO WOULD BE KING which was the only decent evidence I could find of Connery solidly appearing a bit taller than Caine. Not much in terms of quantity but pretty solid evidence in its own right with both standing strictly to attention. Click Here. It's just strange that there isn't much out there otherwise indicating the same advantage over Caine. Perhaps Connery simply didn't stand as well as Caine did most of the time.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 22/Jun/20
Untouchables, Hunt For Red October and The Rock is all the proof you need that Connery maintained 6ft2 into his 60’s

Jam Cherry said on 18/Jun/20
Strong 188 cm at 6’2”

Chinybobs said on 18/Jun/20
Legit 6-2. Unlike many famous people claim.

Charles Crawford said on 9/Jun/20
Very legit 6’2 and held up very well into his 50s and 60s. In the Untouchables with Costner there is a scene where they are shoulder to shoulder and Sean is clearly looking about an inch taller. Connery was about age 56-57 at this point. Anything below 6’2 for a young Sean Connery does not seem logical.

Tall In The Saddle said on 6/Jun/20
Agree Arch. Connery was a bit before my time but I've saw the films later. Without specific scrutiny, I used to perceive Connery to be of average height and actually thought Roger Moore looked taller in his own right! LOL. Connery wasn't just tall but was a big boned guy overall. Note that he has big hands relative to most people, even those of comparable height. Even more so when he made a fist, as he did from time to time, particularly evidenced when he held same up to Dustin Hoffman's face in THE FAMILY BUSINESS.

Bart said on 5/Jun/20
Has Connery appeared in public in the last 10 years? Wonder if he has lost any inches with age.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 3/Jun/20
Yeah Arch I think all the Bonds could give average height impressions due to that. Moore, Brosnan and Dalton were also up against some very big men.

Arch Stanton said on 29/May/20
I mean when you look back and see his films you can see he clearled looked tall range but in the Bond films I honestly didn't notice it when I was younger. Unlike guys like Hasslehoff and Selleck who always looked very noticeably tall on screen.

Arch Stanton said on 29/May/20
Actually I was surprised when I found out Connery was 6'2. Might have been that huge bodyguard in You Only Live Twice which affected my perception but I had actually thought of him as an average height guy when I was younger! I was surprised when I first read 6'4 for Clint too.

Alan mctavish said on 27/May/20
Sean looked at least 6'2", 6'3" even in the bond films! He looked a big guy. He looked the tallest bond easy! But now a would say hes 6'. 6'1" at a stretch! A didnt know daniel craig was only 5'10". But you can tell in the bond films they make him look much taller as if hes 6ft at least! But a great actor despite not makeing the big 6 footer!!!!

Alan mctavish said on 27/May/20
Sean looked at least 6'2", 6'3" even in the bond films! He looked a big guy. He looked the tallest bond easy! But now a would say hes 6'. 6'1" at a stretch! A didnt know daniel craig was only 5'10". But you can tell in the bond films they make him look much taller as if hes 6ft at least! But a great actor despite not makeing the big 6 footer!!!!

HeightRealist said on 17/May/20
Rob, Connery himself said in a Letterman shoe that he was 6'1.5. Tall guy, but never looked 6'2. 186cm peak, 183cm nowadays if he can stand straight. He is old now.

BSaint said on 9/May/20
I agree willies190, I’ve been rewatching... he was definitely not the tallest bond (probably Dalton on appearance although they’re all similar range apart from Craig) not a full 188 barefoot either, he’s a couple of inches less than James Dean, and in thunderball compared with Celi and Auger struggles to look much over 6 which admittedly is strange. String 6’1 for sure, but not full 6’2 without shoes I’d have said.

Tall Sam said on 6/May/20
I would say near taller men like Donald Sutherland and Alan Napier, Connery could look a fairly weak 6'2", sometimes almost seeming 6'1.5" range, but I have no impression Connery minded being next to taller folks. I agree that Hackman at peak maybe have been a small smidge higher, though theres only a few comparables from A Bridge Too Far. Michael Caine is right on even with Connery at peak but before Hackman retired Caine did look to maintain more height with age than Hackman.

Canson said on 18/Apr/20
It’s odd that in Heist, Hackman could almost still give off a 6’2” impression. That was in 2000-2001 when taped but it’s very likely that Delroy Lindo was also never the full 6’4”. Likely that he was a peak 6’3.5 range guy

Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Apr/20
@Tall Sam - interesting comments re Hackman and his decreasing height. When Eastwood was obviously losing height, as was apparent comparing his loss of height relative to the same people (viz Morgan Freeman) over several years, he never seemed to lose his advantage in photos with Hackman, AS IF Gene was shrinking in equal proportion. Anyway, nothing available in years to estimate Gene's current standing. As Eastwood currently stands, it's difficult to envisage current Gene being topped by Clint as he once was - but anything is possible. It would be quite a dramatic photo if one was to see contemporary Hackman now standing a bit taller than contemporary Eastwood.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Apr/20
Peak, I think Connery was the stronger 6ft2 than Hackman

Tall Sam said on 12/Apr/20
For Connery and Hackman, before retiring I think Hackman looked like he was heading for the six foot mark as he was noticeably under Ray Romano in his last film (also could seem nearly 3 inches under Danny Glover in Royal Tanenbaums, now Glover himself has lost height too). Connery seemed to maintain maybe a little more height around the turn of the century. Who know really nowadays, but I'd bet Connery was somewhat the more height conscious in general of the two.