General Height - Page 10

(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 25/Nov/22
Jdubbz 6ft 6 isn’t giant or anything like that, (maybe to short guys).. best mate is that height, good height though even in a small car it’s fine for him to drive

c-mo 176cm said on 25/Nov/22
@Kellan

5'3 over 6'6 ? wow . are you serious ?


by the way since everybody is talking about the ideal height . in my opinion and according to my observations it is 180cm

also the vitruvian man by vitruvius and leonardo da vinci which is supposed to show the ideal body proportions of a male with mathematical applications / ratios etc. is 180cm

Comentarista said on 25/Nov/22
What would you say is Mexico's average height? To me it seems 170cm for men and 158cm for women. Thanks in advance for your Rob.

ViridianForest said on 25/Nov/22
@Zaratustraelsabio Good find. However, a lot of the players height is inconsistent. Pulisic isn't 179cm, Foden isn't 180cm, Grealish and Trent Alexander-Arnold aren't 175cm, Bruno Fernandes is not 183cm, Eriksen is not 181cm and etc. I wouldn't use this report as solid evidence to compare the average height of each nation.

Gian 181cm said on 25/Nov/22
I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he measured 184cm in mid/late morning Rob, in those morning staff scans.
Found another photo, and now with a solid 5'11 guy (Son Heung Min): Click Here
Definitely at least 6'0, now what is the likely height? only Rob's analytical eyes to know xD
Thanks Rob, I think it's an interesting page for him, he is gaining prominence in this world cup and is a player for the traditional Tottenham Hotspur in London.

Kvnggb said on 25/Nov/22
6'2 is nowhere near giant, 6'1 - 6'3 tall | range 6'4 - 6'6 very tall range| 6'7 - 6'9 extremely tall |
6'10+ giant | below 6' you're pretty much average.

Kellan said on 25/Nov/22
@Maahin Chowdhury I agree the thought of being 6'6" is scary! 5'9", or whatever the average in a country is much better. Heck I'd take 5'3" over 6'6".

@John185 That's why I'm glad not to be any taller than ~6'0" flat at night.

Sean Forrest said on 25/Nov/22
The height I'd want to be the most if I could pick - 6'3.5-6'4 barefoot. It's the tallest height you can be without too much health risks and still taller than almost all of women 99%ile (5'11-6'0) even in big 4.5-4.75" heels.
Also doesn't look too disproportionately tall but still taller than majority of men.

Maahin Chowdhury said on 24/Nov/22
@vY
Here’s mine:
5’10.75 evening
5’11.3 morning
Idk what my shoulder width is
9.5 inch head length
5’9.5 wingspan
8.5 shoe size (UK)
9.3 stone/130 lbs yes that is pretty low for my height
I’m 17 btw

Zaratustraelsabio said on 24/Nov/22
Average height World Cup 22' by continent.

Europa 184,01
Africa 182,27
Centroamerica 181,12
Australia 180,96
Asia 180,77
Sudamerica 180,42

The latins are very short.

c-mo 176cm said on 24/Nov/22
@Poster

i think for a man in the western world below 5'5 is defining level short and heights like 5'0 , 4'11 are pretty extreme . however i am not sure if you can call it dwarfism yet medically speaking

Sandi said on 24/Nov/22
How much height do these pair give?Click Here

Jdubbz said on 24/Nov/22
Maahin Chowdhury said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus
You really think 6’6 is a good height? Lol. It’s your opinion but I would hate being 6’6 mate. If you were 6’6 then you would most likely have a hard time banging your head and getting cramped up in cars, plane seats and in bed. 6’2-6’3 is probably the tallest height I’ll go for and honestly I’d rather be 5’9 than 6’6.
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Uh, speaking from experience, 6'6 is not an uncomfortable height at all. Cramped up in cars? There are plenty of cars that can accommodate very tall people. My 4 year old honda accord does just fine. Planes? Ok, but unless you fly every week and only buy the cheapest possible economy seat, leg room isn't an issue. Beds? There are plenty of different types of beds that accommodate people over 6'6. King and queen size beds are 80"/6'8 long, and certain king size beds even go up to 84"/7 feet.

If you don't want to be 6'6 that's fine, but don't make it out to be some weird freakish height, because it's not. You can live a perfectly comfortable life at 6'6.

Gian 181cm said on 24/Nov/22
Rob, in your opinion, how tall is Richarlison? He claimed 184 centimeters on twitter.
Photos of him with Firmino (180cm): Click Here=
Neymar (173cm): Click Here
He looks 6'0 to me at least, I've seen him listing at 181cm on the transfer market.

He is relatively famous Rob, maybe considering a page is interesting, he is 25 years old, possibly has almost 1 decade of career ahead of him.

Kevin said on 24/Nov/22
@Poster

I would agree with 5'0 and 4'8. 4'10 isn't far enough below the average to be considered a midget for white women. It's like calling 6'0 a "giant".

Bobby said on 24/Nov/22
@Poster

I don't consider 5ft a midget for men. My thresholds are sub-5ft for both sexes. Maybe 4'11 for men and 4'6 for women.

Iforgotmyusername said on 24/Nov/22
Hi Rob
I’m 23 and I’ve measured my height quite regularly over the last recent years with tape measure (all properly - barefoot, standing upright, using my hand to gauge the top of my head into the tape measure, keeping it level and parallel as I can) and ultimately I’m around a solid 176 cm range with an eye level close to 164 cm, and results had always stayed the same throughout those years of measurement - and I know for a fact that my eye level is about a good 12-ish cm range (lower than average)

But however just yesterday around late night (2 pm UK time) I decided to measure myself again a few times and found out I was only about 175 cm each time each measure... despite my eye level still being almost 164 cm dead on, currently I’m not feeling well (I’m coming from a pretty bad cold, I do feel more dreadful, weaker, tired / exhausted overall - joints and even my lower back were aching) so did illness played some kind of role in this strange height reduction? Or did my eye level somehow increased (which I don’t think is possible at all..) whilst my physical height was reduced like that randomly?

Sorry if this may seem like a strange question but it definitely got the insecure side of me out and now it’s almost on my mind ever since (yes I’m quite insecure when it comes to height) but I would really appreciate your take on this, cheers Rob.

Gian 181cm said on 24/Nov/22
@Zaratustraelsabio
Actually Argentina is 179.4cm and these mentioned countries are 179.2cm, but if you want to consider both 5'10.5 that's fine.
I reviewed the average height of Asia, in fact it is taller than the South American, it is 180.7cm.

@Arch Stanton
Yes, it's a world trend, the average height of goalkeepers has also increased, we had Iker Casillas with 1.81m, Cláudio Taffarel with 1.81-82m (world champion for Brazil and Liverpool's goalkeeping coach), it's very rare to see goalkeepers with highlights under 6'1 in 2022. In this cup there is Yann Sommer who plays for Switzerland who is 1.83m tall. There's Pickford for England, despite him being a tall guy, the average for goalkeepers is around 6'2.
But overall all the positions are taller compared to the past.

@Emil
Yes, I agree, the average should be more around 180cm, maybe 181cm. In Europe I wouldn't rule out 182cm, but 5'11 3/8 to 5'11 3/4 would be my guess.

Big Ben said on 24/Nov/22
Hello Rob.

Click Here

How tall does she look next to me? She claims 161 cm. It should be noted I'm leaning on one leg but I'm not sure how much height I'm losing there.

And yes, I'm aware I look like the most stereotypical Scandinavian you could possibly imagine 😹 🇸🇪

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 23/Nov/22
Rob, what about a page for Adam DiMarco? He's been in a bunch of shows...

adrianposter said on 23/Nov/22
The most ideal height for having the benefits of being tall with living a normal human life would probably be in the 185-193 cm range.

Poster said on 23/Nov/22
I was just curious. Where would people start "midget height" for white American men and white American women in their twenties? I would start it at 5'0 for guys, and I would start it at 4'8 for girls. I don't buy the 4'10 start for both.

Zaratustraelsabio said on 23/Nov/22
Recheck your info, Argentina is also the shortest team. (Saudi Arab and Mexico too).

And Asia is taller than Southamerica.

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Gian 181cm said on 22/Nov/22
I was analyzing the average height of this year's world cup teams, Serbia is the tallest at 6'1.75 and Qatar, Mexico, Saudi Arabia are the shortest at 5'10.5.

There are some 6'6-6'8 players who push the average of some teams up there.
The overall average is 181,7cm/5'11.5, 181cm for North America, 184cm for Europe, 180.5cm for Asia, 182.5cm for Africa, 180.5cm for South America.
Out of curiosity, the average height of soccer/soccer players in CH is 181cm.

Peter 180cm said on 23/Nov/22
@ Andul-DK It's even finer when you can measure it earlier in the day and feel closer to the magic 1.85m threshold while wearing shoes haha.

Hght181 said on 23/Nov/22
@Rob
So.. you're nearly minding the nipper full-time then? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Until nursery age isn't that bad, time goes by fast these days anyway. Enjoy cartoon watching😄

Hght181 said on 23/Nov/22
@Rob
Just jenny's keyboard? lol.
And what kind of keyboard do you own?

Arch Stanton said on 23/Nov/22
Walk through the cobble streets of Amalfi at 6 ft 4 and you should feel like a giant. Lots of men who aren't even 5 ft 6 there! Perhaps in a big city with lots of people like Milan or Rome it doesn't seem quite so tall. I noticed the same thing Gian, a lot more footballers are six footers these days from when I was really into football in the 90s.

Emil said on 23/Nov/22
@Alex 6'0

I think you and I would get very similar measurements over the day.

My out of bed height can be a whisker below 6'1 though, but 1 hour out bed I'm also around 6'0.5 flat. Given my higher morning height it seems that I shrink more than you do though - thus, I think you'd edge my out come bed time haha.

Jdubbz said on 23/Nov/22
John185 said on 21/Nov/22

I respectfully disagree - as I mentioned overall head size is important for best possible aesthetics, not merely in relation to body proportions. People that are 6'2+ have heads that simply look too big overall (in real life) to be considered ideal aesthetically. Onscreen is a completely different matter.
Although being proportionate is of course good for the aesthetics of any given height without a doubt.

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@John 185

So you're talking about absolute head size and not head to body ratio? In that case you're right, but I don't see why a large head that is proportionate to body size is a bad thing for aesthetics. Honestly, I don't even notice head size unless it's overly small or overly large compared to someone's stature/frame. I get where you're coming from though.

As far as moderately tall heights being better from a convenience perspective, you are absolutely right. Better overall? Of course I am biased, but I would have to disagree. Sure you don't get all the drawbacks of being tall at 6'1, but you definitely don't get all the benefits either. There are many less obvious perks to being very tall (at least 2SD above average) especially when it comes to how you are perceived by other people.

To put it simply, towering over someone leaves quite an impression on him/her and you are treated differently because of it. It seems as if people are more likely to automatically respect or view very tall people as more competent than they really are, despite having done nothing to deserve it. The change in perception has been super noticeable for me, especially as I've gone from the normal tall range (6'1 - 6'3) to very tall (6'4 - 6'6). I can only imagine the type of reception that super tall guys get.

At the end of the day, I think that the heights you mentioned are a good compromise between the perks of being tall and the comforts of being closer to average height. Of course you don't get all the benefits from either category, but it's pretty much a jack of all trades and master of none type of situation. I would not trade my height for 6'0-2, but it's an objectively great height range for a guy. That, we can agree on.

Emil said on 23/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm

Pretty sure you can substract 2-3 cm from that average. Most footballers are overlisted.

The Danish team being a prime example

Emil said on 23/Nov/22
I meant white Americans are tall also by European standards. Kek

Black Noir said on 23/Nov/22
Hey rob could we plz get a page for Greg doucette? He’s a great bodybuilder

vY said on 23/Nov/22
Here is my body measurement post puberty at 21
6’1.5 night height
6’2.25 morning height
18.5 inch shoulder width
9.6 inch head length
10.5 foot size
6’0.5 wing span
160 lbs

Let me know what ur stats are if you want

Kevin said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus

No doubt 6'2 is a solid tall height but I think calling it a "mini giant" is exaggerating a bit.

Emil said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus

It's not like 4 cm sneakers should make that much of a difference. I see tons of people wearing footwear that thick.
At 185 cm you're taller than 90% of guys in Liverpool in any case is my estimate

Maahin Chowdhury said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus
You really think 6’6 is a good height? Lol. It’s your opinion but I would hate being 6’6 mate. If you were 6’6 then you would most likely have a hard time banging your head and getting cramped up in cars, plane seats and in bed. 6’2-6’3 is probably the tallest height I’ll go for and honestly I’d rather be 5’9 than 6’6.

Progking184 said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus yeah I find any extra height gain with shoes I notice quite a bit, 189 in shoes is regular tall though imo. I believe you would look 186 range to most. Im normally like 188 in my shoes and feel generally tall enough, I did notice I felt pretty tall when trying some shoes once that got me to 189-190 in them. Barefoot at that height thats getting into standout tall in general
@Italianguy yeah its regular tall for sure, I think once above 188 its getting into more standout

185cmJeff said on 22/Nov/22
@Jonus I’m 185cm at night and I live about 20 miles or so from London, and when I wore my airmax 720’s in the past during the day I was about 6ft2.5/slightly over and I felt very tall, it’s a very good height, in the morning first thing I measured myself in them and I was 191cm.

Rockaway said on 22/Nov/22
6’2 - 6’3 is definitely the best height range.

Anything taller than that, I think there’s a strong argument to be made some negatives start kicking in (unwanted attention, finding clothes that fit, tight spaces, health, etc)

Gian 181cm said on 22/Nov/22
I noticed that at least since 2006 the averages of world cup players in general have been growing. The average in 2018 was 182.4cm and the median was 183cm.
In this world cup, tall teams like Russia (184.7cm in 2018) and Iceland (185.7cm in 2018) are not present.

Emil said on 22/Nov/22
White Americans are tall also by global standards. I wouldn't even be surprised if Greg was slightly below the national average for his ethnicity.

Dude also bashes heights above 6'3. Seems like a jealous type

Emil said on 22/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs
Half an inch difference lmao.
And like I said, I believe average height could be higher in richer areas but by 2-3 cm tops. Why does it matter so much to you anyway lol.

Gian 181cm said on 22/Nov/22
I was analyzing the average height of this year's world cup teams, Serbia is the tallest at 6'1.75 and Qatar, Mexico, Saudi Arabia are the shortest at 5'10.5.

There are some 6'6-6'8 players who push the average of some teams up there.
The overall average is 181,7cm/5'11.5, 181cm for North America, 184cm for Europe, 180.5cm for Asia, 182.5cm for Africa, 180.5cm for South America.
Out of curiosity, the average height of soccer/soccer players in CH is 181cm.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 22/Nov/22
Jonus said 21/Nov/22

Yes, of course, maybe 5-10% of men are taller than you.
To be honest, I'm really an 187cm guy and only 1cm shy of the 6'2 mark in the evening (barefoot) and that's pretty much how I feel.
Darksol, Public Enemy and QM6'1.5" can only confirm this words ;))

Hght181 said on 22/Nov/22
@Rob
I prefer to keep a low profile on here, I retract some of my revealing statements for a reason and I don't want to reveal too much. I am afraid people will jump to conclusions about me, often people do.

(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 22/Nov/22
Peter 180cm

If I saw you I’d probably think you are taller than me, I’m 182 at night but my eye level is only 5ft 6 by that point

AB-177CM said on 22/Nov/22
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@Adrian

trust me, overall average in nordic countries is like 177-181 cm. I think personally more 177-178 cm.

John185 said on 21/Nov/22
182cm/183cm - 188cm/189cm are generally speaking ideal heights.
6'2/6'2½ stands out a fair amount in the UK and more so collectively worldwide.

I personally think the best range is 184cm - 186cm for the reason that it's generally 1 standard deviation above the mean, but doesn't stand out too much. Anything above 185cm/186cm starts to become really quite noticeable. The proportions of 184cm - 186cm are also ideal with regard to body length vs head size in real life, and it's a universally convenient range to be in.

There isn't much utility to heights above 186cm. Considering pros vs cons in everyday life - more moderately tall heights are better.

John185 said on 21/Nov/22
182cm/183cm - 188cm/189cm are generally speaking ideal heights.
6'2/6'2½ stands out a fair amount in the UK and more so collectively wordwide.

I personally think the best range is 184cm - 186cm for the reason that it's generally 1 standard deviation above average but doesn't stand out too much. Anything above 185cm/186cm starts to become really quite noticeable.
The proportions of 184cm - 186cm are also ideal with regard to body length vs head size in real life, and it's a universally convenient range to be in.

There isn't much utility to heights above 186cm. Considering pros vs cons in everyday life - more moderately tall heights are better.

John185 said on 21/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 16/Oct/22 @John185

I’ve seen way, way more 6’1 guys with overly large looking heads than 6’2+ guys with the same proportions.


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I respectfully disagree - as I mentioned overall head size is important for best possible aesthetics, not merely in relation to body proportions. People that are 6'2+ have heads that simply look too big overall (in real life) to be considered ideal aesthetically. Onscreen is a completely different matter.
Although being proportionate is of course good for the aesthetics of any given height without a doubt.

At 6'0¾ I wouldn't really want to be any taller, it's towards the upper limit in terms of convenience. For those of us typically in the 80th+ percentile in western countries and 95th+ percentile worldwide, and when convenience is factored in, it really is better to be more moderately tall.
Personally, I don't mind standing out a bit, but wouldn't want to stand out to a greater degree.

6'1 give or take half and inch (or more accurately 6'0½ - 6'1¼) is pretty much the maximum to never have to worry about legroom or headroom when travelling in cars/trains/planes. All beds fit this range no matter where in the world you are, and consequently, being a frequent visitor to South and East Asia as well as European destinations, I find my height to be pretty much at an optimum.

Jonus said on 21/Nov/22
@Jdubbz

Poor choice of words by me lol, sorry I was in a rush. I always wanted to be 6'6 growing up, I was obsessed with being huge as I grew up watching all the badass films and shows like batman, superman, DBZ etc.

That badass super villain I saw on TV looked cool, I always wanted to be tall as so there is honestly nothing wrong being 6'6 lol it must be tons of fun. As I've gotten older and matured and gotten to know what people and their personalities are like, I started to change my mind and I would take nearer 6'3 over 6'6, personally I don't like attracting attention and I don't like talking to people. I really like the 6'2-6'3 range, it's tall but I won't have people coming to ask me questions about my height. I would be TEMPTED to even pick 6'4 but no more for me personally.

6'6 again is nice, i just don't like the attention from people. I was walking around as a 6'2 guy and people were giving me looks, so imagine as a six six dude! I would pick 6'6 over an average height of like 5'10. 5'10 is boring man - it's a nice height, but u guys are missing out. Being tall is hella fun man, I was walking around and I felt like Zeus man, it felt awesome

adrianjacobs said on 21/Nov/22
@Emil
If you really think the average is 181.7cm, then you write 5'9.5-6'1.5 instead of 5'10-6'2 like you did in one of your previous posts. If you are afraid of admitting that the average begins with the number 6' anywhere, because people on this website will go crazy, then just don't.

dreus23 said on 21/Nov/22
@AdrianJacobs

Did you miss the part where I downright admitted that it was "amateurish"? It's not science or anything, it was just something I did out of sheer, unadulterated boredom; it's not "legitimate", "serious", or necessarily "correct" in any way

Also, "are you basing that on the heights you think they are", uh, yeah. That's the entire concept of this website. Since most people don't walk around with a measuring tape, all we can do is estimate people's height based on how they look with other people we have seen get measured. And the total sum, divided by its parts, in this case, was 179.0487654321

Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob
Just seen your video.. so Nipper broke your keyboard? Maybe deleted something😕 Also, I clicked the link on my old iPad. I'm an android user and I don't wanna cast it to smart TV's around my house, lol.

Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Bobby
I didn't get to respond to your comment before. Anyway, here's my response. As a result of my fear of attracting to much attention, sometimes I walk back some of my controversial statements. 

Furthermore, when it comes to topics I don't have experience with, it is difficult for me to write about them but this isn't the main reason.

Poster said on 20/Nov/22
@Bobby: It doesn't make sense to me. Men and women shouldn't be in the same category, and Northwest Europeans and Southeast Asians shouldn't be in the same category. People can just add to this. Personally (for younger white Americans), I would start it at 5'0 for men while I would start it at 4'8 for women. YMMV

Glacierr said on 20/Nov/22
Hi Rob, the rapper Nba Youngboy measured his height but I am not sure what it was because the person measuring him did not read the measuring tape correctly and thought 67 inches was 6’7 but it seems like he is in the 5’8 range

Click Here (at 1:40)

Emil said on 20/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs

According to military conscript data, the national median height for men is 181.7 cm, I think. I do believe average could be a tad over 183 cm in wealthier areas, though.

Jdubbz said on 20/Nov/22
@Jonus:

Haha, it's cool that you got such a kick out of experiencing being 6'2 barefoot, but I'm a bit confused by your comment. Clearly you enjoy the feeling of towering over people and looking like a giant, but then you imply 6'6 is awkwardly tall. Trust me brother, it's not. Based on how you describe enjoying the experience of being taller than other tall guys and looking massive in your reflection, you would probably love being 6'6 as well. Or at least 6'4-5. I understand 5" is a pretty massive leap in height.

Frankly I'm kind of surprised that you felt that way at "only" 6'2. If I shrunk 4 inches, I would feel way shorter than I'm used to, being that much closer to average height. in fact, I think 6'2 is just as close to average height as it is to my height. At the end of the day, I suppose it's just a matter of perception and what you're used to.

Peter 180cm said on 20/Nov/22
In relation to height claims: I think if you claim any height you can measure barefoot throughout the day you're gonna be accurate. But i would rule out the two extremes(max morning and lowest evening after an active work-day for example, although that might still be considered accurate). In my case I've claimed anything from 179-182 in the past and sometimes even 178(but i just downplayed on that one just to mess with people's minds lol). I think the most accurate answer is to say a general range,such as 180-181 in my case.But even then some people will try to tell you must be shorter or taller (usually taller, especially if you have long limbs).

Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob
Still minding the nipper? lol.
I don't watch every game too, I prefer watching the big games and England ones.
Yeah evening matches are relaxing especially after a busy day.

Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Sandy Cowell
Did you hear about the Qatar beer ban at the wc?

adrianjacobs said on 20/Nov/22
@Emil
At least you're being honest about the average in your country, unlike swedes. I agree with you that the average in Denmark could be somewhere around 6ft. I could see it as slightly over that as well.
I would say an inch or slightly more taller in Sweden.

Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Emil
Some here take height very seriously then again they may more passionate about it.

Hght181 said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob
Will you be watching the football?
QATAR ⚽😎

adrianjacobs said on 20/Nov/22
@dreus23
Did you just base that on the height they claim to be and the height you think they are? :)

It's very interesting how you also make that sound like a "legit" estimation of the average.

chad michaels said on 19/Nov/22
@Rob, How much do you think these shoes give?
Click Here

Harold Green said on 19/Nov/22
Hi Rob,

I would like to ask if someone is measured at 6’2 5/8 which is 189.548cm and you were to add that person in this specific height at celebheights page. Would you round that up to 190cm or round down to 189cm. I know for 6’0 1/4 celebrities they get rounded up to 184cm for celebheights when the actual number is 183.515 but one of my new colleague at work told me about his measurement from his doctor that he is around 6’2 5/8 and he doesn’t know if he should claim 189 or 190 cm tall.

Emil said on 19/Nov/22
@QM6'1.5"QM

Where are you from? I'm 6'0 Danish, and most guys in my country are between 5'10-6'2, but in Southern Europe and the UK I can definitely tell people are noticeably shorter.

dreus23 said on 18/Nov/22
Alright, since there is a discussion about the average height of Sweden, I guess I might chime in with my own observations. I actually did some statistics for fun this last week on Sweden's average height, as I've been sick all week and therefore have been staying home a lot. It was pretty amateurish; the way I did it was by looking at some videos of a guy who goes around and interviews people on the street. The first time I did it, the count was 162 guys and 93 girls. The average for guys turned out to be 179 cm, and for girls 165 cm. I did it a second time, now with a total count of 203 guys. That time, the average for men was 178.7 cm

I also estimated the heights of a few male teachers at my school while I was at it. Based on the 15 of them who's heights I'm relatively sure of, the average was 178.4 cm

And finally, I estimated some heights of a bunch of Swedish actors I've regularly watched. The average, with a count of 72 male actors, was 180.5 cm. Also, I could not find any remotely even semi-famous actors noticeably under 170 cm. There were three actors under 170 cm; one who was 169 cm, one 168-169 cm, and one 164 cm. There weren't many actors over 190 cm either though. So I guess you could say that 170 cm is the cutoff for too short whereas 190 cm is the cutoff for too tall. Pretty annoying industry

Generally, anything from 177-181 cm, I'd call "solid average". But really anything from 175-183 cm I'd say could be considered in the average "range"

Jonus said on 18/Nov/22
Hey guys been a bit. So Imma cut straight to the point. I'm 6ft1 (186.6cm in the morning) and I've been experimenting with height. When I wear footwear to get me to 188cm bang on or in that 187-188cm range I feel like a regular tall dude. Can see over the head of the majority of people but nothing special blah blah blah.

When I wear vans or flat shoes, again I'm like 187cm flat in them and can dip to 186.5 as the day goes on. Again, it's wayyyyyyy above average to just be above average so imma say it's about regular tall as well nothing special, can see above the heads of a lot of people but nothing that would shock the eye ya feel me? It's a good height.

However this is when I entered an entirely different realm of height. It's so odd How different I felt and it was only 1cm or so compared to my normal footwear. When I wear footwear to get me to 189cm-190cm range I felt HUGE. Like a MINI GIANT - Freaking massive dude. I've been told on numerous occasions I have very broad shoulders so maybe that helped, I am also 81kgs (180lbs, mass from the gym). But dude it felt F*CKING AWESOME. I remember walking in the store and looked at my reflection in the window where I was surrounded by people looking for items and even I was shocked as to how freaking MASSIVE I looked, I thought to myself "woah holy SHIT I look big as hell" I was aghast as to how tall I looked even a bit frightened as to how big I looked haha - but I freaking enjoyed it man. Don't take this as arrogance please, I'm just explaining my experience and how I felt. I normally wear about 2.5cm-3cm worth of footwear. This was my first experience wearing 3.5cm-4cm footwear.

I remember walking and getting looks from people several times, so I think I looked intimidating. But man I felt like a mini giant. I was taller than people who were quite tall themselves. I remember seeing a dude that looked about 6ft tall, maybe 5'11.25-6ft range and I towered his ass. Like I said man it felt freaking AWESOME! 6'2.25 is such a fun height man. It feels MASSIVE but not so massive. Like if I had to pick 6'2.25 or 6'6 I'd easily pick 6'2.25 at night. It's tall as but not awkwardly tall ya know? It's good for general life. But yeah man that's my lil height story. being over 6'2 is fun as hell

Darksol64 said on 18/Nov/22
@ Jdubbz & Bobby

My mistake with Beau, I didn't see the measurement video. Hey, even better if he's a legit 7'0-7'1 to prove the point I was trying to make; that even extreme heights aren't automatically bad like some people shorter than those heights want to argue. Sure, you might get a little more attention than you'd like at times in public being 7 ft, but I'd take his height over mine if it came with good genetics like that....just because, haha. Next time someone starts that BS talking bad about tall heights just go tell them to check out BigBeau.

Also @Jdubbz

Honestly at over 6'6 I would of by default thought you have "enough height to spare" over someone like me to not notice a difference with an inch of footwear, but it's too true about how much of difference and inch actually makes so I can understand you feeling the same way. I'm in an interesting place where the extra inch almost puts me into the very tall zone and I absolutely feel the difference and the towering effect over most guys is satisfying from a psychological POV. Don't always wear them. The best part is probably Rob wouldn't even be able to spot the lift unless the shoes come off.

Speaking of shoes I always cringe when I see 5'9 guys thinking they can buy a pair of giant platform shoes to be 6 ft. I always try to talk them out of it. For one you need to hit the 6'1 mark to appear like an actual 6 ft guy would, and worse yet even if you find a 4-inch shoe it's going to wreck your knees and be uncomfortable as hell. You'll also be a really weird looking 6 ft dude with the super long lower-legs, short arms/proportions. It just looks too fake and easy to spot. Plus you'll be paralyzed with fear if someone asks you to take the shoes off. XD I always suggest going with a 2 inch shoe max, for a (comfortable) inch boost to put you at an ABOVE average height, and enjoy.

Bobby said on 18/Nov/22
@Poster

The Mayo Clinic definition makes perfect sense to me, though. In any case, I thought the link was prudent simply to provide academic evidence to naysayers.

adrianjacobs said on 18/Nov/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
Wait, what? Wrong about which estimations?
Do you live in Sweden as well? If you don't, I don't see what your perception of average has to do with this. I was talking about the average in Sweden and Denmark, where I don't think you live.
The official average in Sweden is 5'11, and 5'11.25 according to some sources. So according to the statistics, it's the middle range of average, not upper.

Progking185 said on 18/Nov/22
@Bobby yeah he's 7'0 for sure, I thought maybe under that at first but 7'0 guys have a bit bigger head on average His 7'1 claim is in shoes. Watching his go pro videos especially he does look at least that compared to the public.
@Jdubbz yeah 1.25 is like the max amount most guys have on. So he's 6'2.5-6'2.75 and closer to 6'3 in public, quite standout

QM6'1.5"QM said on 18/Nov/22
adrianjacobs said on 18/Nov/22

I think you're def wrong about your estimations!
5'11" is in the middle of my forehead ...and the most of people are shorter.
~5'11" is a highest avg or the end of avg range. Maybe you have some cognitive dissonance or just can't compared heights by your eye level and the top of the head etc...
Idk but you claim that 3 on 30 of women at least 6'1" ... it's impossible. It's maybe accurate for volleyball & basketball teams!

No hate man, just my comment!

Emil said on 18/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs

Maybe take a chill pill, dude. You seem extremely edgy

adrianjacobs said on 18/Nov/22
@Emil
I don't pay attention to statistics when it comes to average height at all. The "official" average height (5'11) in Sweden is absolutely absurd and is not based on reality.

I think you were telling yourself that is there is no difference between these two countries because you thought that it shouldn't be any. It seemed pretty clear to me. As soon as I saw women in Denmark close to me in height, I immediately noticed how they were talking swedish. I actually rarely felt below average, which I do practically all the time in Stockholm.

There is no reason for me to inflate the average height in Sweden either, because I'm patriotic or something. I despise this country. I don't see why everyone likes to downplay the average height in Sweden so much though. I didn't noticed any difference in height here compared to the Netherlands.

Gian 181cm said on 18/Nov/22
@Jokey
It's possible, claiming 181cm for you wouldn't be bad bro. But of course, claim what you feel most comfortable with.

@Jdubbz
Yes bro, sometimes I see some people leave scientific articles as if they were something irrefutable or absolute truth (not necessarily Avi's case, but I think he could have explained it better).
Healthy lifestyle to improve life expectancy and your life in general, that's scientific consensus.

jokey said on 17/Nov/22
Gian 181cm said on 17/Nov/22
@Jokey
You're practically my height, I'm late at night about 5'11 1/8, and you're 5'11. You're still growing, apparently, in a few months we'll be the same height xD.

there's a small chance of ending up exactly 2cm taller than i was at 19. i would rule out 5'11.25 because 1 inch is too much for a final height bonus.

Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm:

You're absolutely right man. I tend to get pretty worked up in these situations. Plus, it's a lose lose situation. I'm never going to change Avi's mind, and he's never going to change mine. As you said, it's best to move on.

Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/22
@Darksol64:

I agree completely, on both points. To be honest, if you're just under 6'4 in those shoes, you're probably more similar to a 6'3 barefoot guy than a 6'2.5 barefoot guy. I'm pretty sure that the average sneaker gives closer to 7/8 - 1" of height as opposed to 1.25", but I could be wrong on that. If you're equivalent to a 6'3 barefoot guy, then I'm not surprised that you feel closer to 1/50 than 1/20. It goes to show that a small amount of extra height makes a huge difference in perception and rarity when you're already well over 6 feet tall.

Even at my height (6'6.25 barefoot), it's pretty crazy how much of a difference footwear can make. In shoes like vans or converse that give way less than an inch of height, I don't feel nearly as tall as I do when wearing thick sneakers with orthotics (1.5 - 1.75" boost). Maybe it's also because those thick sneakers with orthotics bring me very close to 6'8, (which is doorframe height), but you wouldn't think that an extra inch of footwear would make THAT much of a difference in terms of self perception when you're already very tall.

I am familiar with Beau. I think he is actually a legit 7'1 barefoot guy (measured in one of his videos), which makes his build/physique even crazier. In my experience, the people who constantly talk about how being tall or very tall means you automatically have messed up proportions are insecure about their height and want to be taller. People who are satisfied with their height usually don't make stupid blanket generalizations like that. I've seen lanky looking average height dudes who look tall from a distance, and very tall guys with stocky proportions who look shorter than they actually are. Body types vary so much, regardless of height.

Obviously the likelihood of being gangly/lanky increases when you're well over 6 feet and closer to 7 feet, but as you said, there are so many other factors involved. Shoulder width, leg to torso ratio, wingspan, head size, neck size, etc.

Emil said on 17/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs

Thanks for answering.

I was just asking because I don't live in Sweden so I was merely curious.

And no, I guess 6'3-6'4 isn't enormous for an American man, but it's still higher than the 97% percentile, as is 182 cm for a Scandinavian woman. That's 2 standard deviations above average. Pretty tall if you ask me, although it isnt outlier tall of course. It still falls within a normal distribution.

I've been to Stockholm a couple times. I can't tell if people there are taller or shorter compared to Copenhagen. It seems very similar though, and honestly I'm completely agnostic unless I'm presented with valid statistical data (which I know isn't always flawless either). One thing I do know, however, is that Scandinavian people are amongst the tallest in the world.

I have been able to tell a difference in London and some US cities where even I've stood out a bit with my 183 cm, which statistically falls into average range for Scandinavian men. But average height in the UK and the US is also 5'9-5'10. A 2-3 inch difference is noticeable for me, but less than that is hard for me to spot. Unless I stand near the given person.

Then I've been to South East Asia, where even in big cities I've gone days without spotting someone my own height or taller.

I think it's amazing how height can differ so much depending on where you are in the world.

Poster said on 17/Nov/22
@Jdubbz: I explained this very well in my other comments. Some dwarfs have proportionate features, and they were called midgets before that allegedly became an insult. Not all dwarfs have stubby arms and stubby legs like some famous actors. Some of them, like the women you mentioned, just look like very tiny people.

Also, the 4'10 cutoff, for all adults, is not MY definition. That definition comes from an advocacy group for "little people". I also explained that cutoff heights should be based on ethnicity and gender. Rob provided an example of why that is.

@Bobby: The Mayo Clinic definition is evidently based on the advocacy group's definition, which makes no sense to anybody on this forum. All to most people think that the 4'10 cutoff height is too tall for women.

Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/22
@Bobby:

Nope, it's his most recently uploaded video. Go to 2:47 and pause - you'll see exactly what I mean.

Bobby said on 17/Nov/22
@Darksol64

I know 7ftVlogs. Beau is genuinely 7ft tall. He had his friend measure his height with a measuring tape, he had to use a stepping stool. His friend left his hand at the mark, and when Beau zoomed in with the camera, his friend's finger was on the 7ft mark.

I know people have said he might be 6'11 or something, but Beau went on a video record showing his height. His friend, Trey, though, is allegedly 6'6. His friend, Dillan, the guy who measured him, is 5'10.5 or something. Beau towers EVERYONE. He looks genuinely gigantic. Maybe he'll dip into 6'11.75 territory, but he's a legit 7ft.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Nov/22
Imo:

6'0-6'2 reg tall

6'3-6'5 very tall

6'6-6'8 extremely tall

6'9+ gigantic.

TDL said on 17/Nov/22
Hey Rob what do you think the heel height of these boots are? Click Here

Bislimi said on 17/Nov/22
Hey Rob. I measure 5’11 3/8 after being up for 10+ hours. What would my height percentile roughly be for young men in UK aged 18-25 and what term would you use to describe my stature in the country amongst young men?

Progking185 said on 17/Nov/22
@Darksol64 i believe Rob said average shoe is about 1 inch or less, but yeah I think your solidly tall at either 6'1.75 or 6'2.5. 6'4 is end of regular tall and starts to look very tall in public. You probably look about 6'3 to most if your near 6'4 in those shoes.

Gian 181cm said on 17/Nov/22
@Jokey
You're practically my height, I'm late at night about 5'11 1/8, and you're 5'11. You're still growing, apparently, in a few months we'll be the same height xD.

There are few guys who claim 5'11 who have that height at the end of the night, usually 5'11 guys drop to 5'10.75 - 5'10 7/8 and at worst 179.3-4cm at the extreme low.

adrianposter said on 17/Nov/22
I see many guys over 6’4 that still have good face and body proportions, so I don’t know why people automatically assume that a 6’8 guy (for example) would look gangly or weird.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Nov/22
How about adding Dermot Morgan from Father Ted, Rob. He looked 1.5 inches taller than 5'9 Ardol so I think 5'10.5 is a fair shout.

Gian 181cm said on 17/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
Exactly, these are subjective advantages. As a boxing and basketball fan, I thought your height would be good.
The truth is that when a person is very far from a height they end up having a very superficial opinion, so I would ignore it and not worry anymore.

@avi
Is this study you are referring to from 'The Royal Society'? As I understand it, the study claims to have some height correlation with some (and not all) types of cancer and is only one possible (unlikely) explanation.
There is research stating that the taller the person, the lower the chances of having diabetes, heart attack.

At the end of the day, whether you are short, medium or tall, the important thing is to have a healthy lifestyle.

Darksol64 said on 17/Nov/22
@ Jdubbz

I agree about even 6'4 being nearly out of normal tall range. I'm a 6'1-3/4 guy and when I wear a thick 2" shoe similar to the Hogan's Rob has listed (effectively putting me at 6'2.5 assuming the average person is wearing 1.25" shoe) I'm pretty much top of the crowd around here. Statistically 1-20 guys should be that height but it's more like 1 in 50 or less guys it seems, young or old.

And by the way man all these people telling you 6'6 can't have good proportions or look good (LMAO) I highly suggest going on YT and type in "7 Ft Vlogs" A channel named BigBeauBrown will show up. I recommend the video "life of a 7 ft guy through gopro" Should be one of the first to show up. It's a dude that claims to be 7 ft (might be 6-10 or 6-11 in reality, but still giant territory) and he has AMAZING body proportions. an easy 8/10 face if not 9/10. No ganglyness, no long neck, funky face, etc. He's so lucky to have that body it's not even funny. He looks like a normal person on a larger scale.

Just because people of extreme height can look like crap doesn't mean they will or the height itself is bad. It's just genetics.

Kellan said on 17/Nov/22
@Avi
I don't get that either. Even most "ideal height for men" surveys typically average between 6'0" and 6'2"

AB-177CM said on 17/Nov/22
@Jokey

You are tall for a sardinian guy, despite that you are near 181 in the mid of the day...

adrianjacobs said on 17/Nov/22
@Emil
I live in an area called Östermalm. It doesn't matter though where you live in Sweden. Would you call a guy who is 6'3-6'4 "enormous" in America? They are about as much above average as a 182cm woman in Sweden.
Btw, I visited Copenhagen this summer and I noticed that the average was indeed noticeably lower than in Sweden.

@Progking185
Yeah I think I have a pretty similar height and eye level as you. I have even been measured at the full 6'1 by doctors, and yet I'm definitely not sure my eye level reaches 5'7.5.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 17/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22

Yes of course, this is height of my brother. He's closer to 6'5", maybe full 6'5". It's def very tall. I mean even being about 6'2" you would feel towering many young and adult guys, but when you noticeable taller than me on good 3inches ...
I think any difference over ~2inches is when someone looks TALL in your eyes and you can feel it.

Emil said on 17/Nov/22
adrianjacobs said on 17/Oct/22
@dreus23 182cm is at the very most "very tall" for a woman in Sweden, but it's not even close to enormous. You probably don't know how 182cm looks if you think that's "enormous". I wouldn't even call 6'1 enormous for a woman in Stockholm either. I see probably 2 or 3 out of 30 women that height or taller.

Where in Stockholm do you live, Adrian? A rich area or something?
I see 6'1-6'2 women (sometimes 6'3) in Copenhagen as well but I wouldn't say it's 3 out of 30. More like 3 out of 300. But of course it doesn't have to be the same in your case

c-mo superduperultramegastrong 5'9 range said on 17/Nov/22
what is a normal low and what is not ? what would be being awake for 12-13 hours and not having lied down at all during those 12-13 hours but sit a lot but also having done some weight training and walked to the supermarket and back (not that close to home) be ? would you fall a little below the "normal" low in these conditions ?

mnecro2602 said on 16/Nov/22
@Rob

How much height do you think these shoes give?
Click Here

Poster said on 16/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee: You can believe what you want. The experts know much more than you do. You can claim that dwarfism starts at one inch, if you like. I support your freedom of speech to be clueless and wrong.

Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee:

Some people seem to conflate having dwarfism/gigantism with being extremely short or extremely tall. In reality, while those conditions can lead to extreme stature on either end of the bell curve, that doesn't mean that you can assign a height cutoff for a disease. Especially cutoffs that by and large don't apply to actual dwarves. Like you said, most people who suffer from dwarfism are WELL under 4'10 or even 4'8. That never made much sense to me either.

Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm:

Yeah 6'6 can be a good height, but it's fine for people to disagree. What's not fine is constantly harping about how much a certain height sucks without having any experience being that height. That's the problem with Avi. I can't even imagine the audacity it takes to do that.

Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Avi:

I am the insecure one? Lol, that's rich coming from you. In my experience, people who insult other people's heights as often as you do are deeply dissatisfied with their own. You admit you want to be taller, so that definitely tracks. No one else here aside from 1 or 2 other posters randomly brings up why being very tall sucks. Even those posters don't do it as consistently as you do. In all honesty, you may be one of the most insecure posters here. You may disguise your posts as spreading awareness about health issues, but it's incredibly obvious what your actual motive is.

Why would I be insecure about my height? I tower over pretty much everyone I come across. I have a proportional build and a wide frame, so I don't look lanky at all. My height has been nothing but a blessing in my life. Calling out a guy who is repeatedly attempting to belittle very tall heights (you) isn't synonymous with being insecure. Nice try though :)

"Believe you were not the reason as much as you may wish to think so ;)"

I don't even know what you're saying here. I don't give a crap if I'm the reason you left or came back...you're just some stranger who means nothing to me. I just notice that whenever you sporadically show up, you just so happen to post about how being very tall sucks. It is extremely annoying, so yes, I will continue to call you out each and every time you do this. I barely even post on CH these days. Probably less frequently than you do.

"Also that is Assumption it was directed at you. Maybe it was or maybe it wasn't."

Lol, don't be disingenuous, you know exactly what you're doing. How many other 6'5+ posters are here who have gotten into arguments with you before? If you want to instigate an argument, that's a ok with me. Let's be honest, CH is boring without the occasional argument. I honestly don't mind it :)

"I had a 6'2-6'2.5 friend and even he had his fair share of issues.
Obviously being an extreme height such as yourself is really the only way to experience the challenges firsthand..."

Fair share of issues at 6'2? Either your friend has some genetic issues, or he's just complaining for the sake of complaining. 6'2 is a very comfortable height in any western country. Tell your friend to man up and stop being a pansy.

Please tell me what "challenges" I face at my "extreme height"? I buy pants online and don't fit in some cars. I may have to occasionally duck under doorframes. Wow, what horrible challenges. The truth is that I'm extremely comfortable at my height. Taking care of your body and staying at a healthy weight along with taking the proper supplements can prevent back/joint issues even at very tall heights.

Honestly, I would bet that I experience fewer back and joint issues than you do. But please...go on about how my height is way too tall and so horrible. I've been your height before (albeit when I was a 13 or 14 year old kid), and I would personally never want to trade places with you. That's the difference between you and me. You speak as if you have some kind authority on what it's like to be tall or very tall when you really have no idea. I have been your height before but you have never been mine.

Jdubbz said on 16/Nov/22
@Poster:

I think the issue with assigning height cutoffs for dwarfism is that extremely short stature doesn't always correlate with the pathophysiology associated with dwarfism. I've seem plenty of 4'8 and 4'7 women throughout my life who were perfectly normal, just extremely short. Same thing with 5'0-1 men. Most actual dwarfs (suffering from achondroplasia or similar conditions) are significantly shorter than that. It's like how some people think that anyone above 7' has gigantism, which is of course ridiculous 

Bobby said on 16/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee

Actually, according to Mayo Clinic, official dwarf height begins at an adult stature of 4'10/147 cm or less.

It may be difficult to fathom, but the diagnosis is very real.

Click Here

Progking185 said on 16/Nov/22
@adrian Jacob's yeah I believe for 6'0-6'1 the average is about that. Though my eye level seems to be like 5.25 inches. Evening I measure around 6'0.5 but my eye level is 5'7.25-5'7.5. I think anything under mine is getting rare for guys. 6+ inch eye level would mean a huge forehead.

Gian 181cm said on 16/Nov/22
@winkler189cm
It reminded me of a case on reddit (on the tall women sub or something) of a 5'7.5 guy who claimed 6'0 and challenged his girlfriend's friend (who was 5'11.5) to measure , as he claimed she was 6' 2.5-6'3, and when he found out he was in shock.

Ever thought of me claiming 191 in front of you? LOL

Jackie Lee said on 16/Nov/22
@winkler189cm
You should have called him out and tell him he's more like 172cm. I've never seen anyone add 10cm to their height in real life only the celebrities.

Jackie Lee said on 16/Nov/22
@Poster
I really don't believe this crap I've never heard of this 4'10/5'0 dwarf height thing except for the internet. A dwarf is generally around 3-4 feet tall, not almost 5 feet tall.

adrianjacobs said on 16/Nov/22
@avi
It's 4.5 inches for a man of average height for the whole world. Taller guys are going to have a bigger eye level on average and shorter guys are going to have a smaller eye level. Guys who are around 6ft have an eye level of around 4.75 inches, which Rob confirmed.

I think my eye level is about 5 inches

Gian 181cm said on 16/Nov/22
Jdubbz
Oh, I didn't know that, I remember some discussions where you talked about it, but I also didn't remember who you were aiming at, now it makes more sense.
But anyway, 6'6 is a good height, honestly if I was 6'6 I would imagine myself as Anthony Joshua lmao, he has a good physique and stands out a lot because of his height (and skill of course) in the ring.

winkler189cm said on 16/Nov/22
Height inflation in Germany :D I had a funny situation. Had a conversation with people and 1 guy said he is about 182cm while he was shorter than the woman he was talking with. She is 175cm (she said and yeah she is) and the guy probably 172cm but he still said 182cm.
I was standing next to him and know it was a lie (I am about 189cm). He even said to the girl ''No you are not, you must be taller about 185cm. I swear I am 182cm''. She said ''ok lets say you are 182cm''. He said ''With shoes though''.

How can you dare to add 10cm (4 inches) to your height? Its even in his ID ! I don't get it.

I was like: How tall am I then? 2 meter or what?


LOL

avi said on 15/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs said on 15/Nov/22

My eye level is 4.5

5'7.25 + 4.5 = 5'11.75

I hear that 4.5 is what most men's eye level is
When I measure top of head to eyeline it is 4.5 inches

What is yours?

@Jdubbz said on 14/Nov/22

LOL. Someone is a bit insecure

Everyone here knows I come and go. Believe you were not the reason as much as you may wish to think so ;)
If you must know it's because I do have a busy life plus I don't think it's healthy being on here getting upset with posters and obsessing about height.

Also that is Assumption it was directed at you. Maybe it was or maybe it wasn't.

But no I don't think you refuted anything.
I'm just merely pointing out another risk factor and shared to thise who may care. You may or may not care
And I don't care if you care or not.

But if you read what I posted you would see that I also said shorter people generally more at risk for certain cardiac issues (based on studies).

Plus I never said I know or do not know the disadvantages of extreme height at a personal level . It's pretty much common knowledge what issues will be encountered. I don't need to be that specific height...
I knew a few people in my life who were 6'4-6'6 range who mentioned their challenges.

I had a 6'2-6'2.5 friend and even he had his fair share of issues.
Obviously being an extreme height such as yourself is really the only way to experience the challenges firsthand...

Poster said on 15/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee: It's not what I "believe". It's what the advocacy group claims. I BELIEVE that dwarf height starts at 4'8 for younger white American women and 5'0 for younger white American men. It varies for other groups.

Jdubbz said on 15/Nov/22
@Gian 181cm:

It would be fine with me if he said it once or twice Gian, but it's a recurring theme with him. He has been doing this for years, where he just randomly pops up and goes into how being tall or very tall sucks. It has its downsides, fair enough, but you can understand how that type of comment would get really annoying over time. Always highlighting the negatives but never the positives.

No one here was talking about the downsides of any height at all, then this guy just brings up how anything over 6'2-3 is automatically a bad height. Again, and again, and again. His last few lines were almost certainly directed at me, given our previous exchanges, so yes it's hard not to take that personally.

Once this current exchange is over, he will do the same thing in a few months, then again a few months after that, etc. It's just getting old for me. Yes there are advantages and disadvantages for every height, but for someone to exclusively comment on and over exaggerate the downsides of a certain height range, repeatedly, is just pretty messed up. Hope you can understand why I'm being defensive.

Progking185 said on 15/Nov/22
@Avi most places I find just a few 6'3-6'4 guys out and barely any taller. It depends though somedays the average seems higher in some small areas(5'9-5'10 here in Canada I think), and there are more very tall guys out. Height really drops off after 6'4. 6'1-6'2 is the common tall guy, taller than many but gets used to not being the tallest in a room

jokey said on 15/Nov/22
AB-177CM said on 15/Nov/22
jokey said on 14/Nov/22
AB-177CM said on 14/Nov/22
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Nov/22
@slimjames210

I am exactly 5'10.25 out of bed, by bedtime I'm 5'9.5.

-

My low is just a few mm over yours. My low is 176.6-176.8 cm. It varies, but it is around that range.

so you're a solid 5'9.5 at night now?

i got a couple of mm in these months, i'm still 5'11 in the late evening / almost night time and just 1-2mm under it at late night. I checked it a few times on different walls and the result is the same. I used to drop to 5'10.75.

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Hello Mate. How are you doing? It's been a while since I've heard or seen any post from you, so I missed you, not in the wrong way. I would consider myself to be 177 cm. And I am a solid/legit 5’9.5 at my typical low. In fact i measured 176.7 cm after coming home from school + i was already awake for 8.5 hours or so.

So your low is basically 179.9 cm now, wow. Isn't it cool to be just a tiny bit underneath 180, but being bang on 179.9 cm. (-;;;;;

i'm fine thanks ;), how are you? i was a bit busy with other things.

my low is 180.1 or 2 cm at night, just over 5'10 7/8. The good thing about being basically 5'11 at night is that you can feel tallish at any time of the day.

Gian 181cm said on 15/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
On second thought, I think it's okay for you to respond to him, but I've already noticed that it's not the first time he's commented on things like that, so it's best not to worry too much.

Gian 181cm said on 15/Nov/22
@Jdubbz
Why do you care about his opinion?
There are a lot of people who see disadvantage at 5'11 and I just say "ok"
6'6 is a good height, I think the right word is that 6'6 is an "unusual" tall and not "abnormal".
If I was 6'6 the only problem would be if I was an ectomorph as being tall and thin is a bit tricky.

adrianjacobs said on 15/Nov/22
@Avi
Yeah, you said how tall you are. I asked you why you think your eye level is the average for your height.

AB-177CM said on 15/Nov/22
@Avi


Hi Sir. You seem like a legit 182 cm to me, and that is a very perfect height.

AB-177CM said on 15/Nov/22
jokey said on 14/Nov/22
AB-177CM said on 14/Nov/22
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Nov/22
@slimjames210

I am exactly 5'10.25 out of bed, by bedtime I'm 5'9.5.

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My low is just a few mm over yours. My low is 176.6-176.8 cm. It varies, but it is around that range.

so you're a solid 5'9.5 at night now?

i got a couple of mm in these months, i'm still 5'11 in the late evening / almost night time and just 1-2mm under it at late night. I checked it a few times on different walls and the result is the same. I used to drop to 5'10.75.

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Hello Mate. How are you doing? It's been a while since I've heard or seen any post from you, so I missed you, not in the wrong way. I would consider myself to be 177 cm. And I am a solid/legit 5’9.5 at my typical low. In fact i measured 176.7 cm after coming home from school + i was already awake for 8.5 hours or so.

So your low is basically 179.9 cm now, wow. Isn't it cool to be just a tiny bit underneath 180, but being bang on 179.9 cm. (-;;;;;

jokey said on 14/Nov/22
AB-177CM said on 14/Nov/22
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Nov/22
@slimjames210

I am exactly 5'10.25 out of bed, by bedtime I'm 5'9.5.

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My low is just a few mm over yours. My low is 176.6-176.8 cm. It varies, but it is around that range.

so you're a solid 5'9.5 at night now?

i got a couple of mm in these months, i'm still 5'11 in the late evening / almost night time and just 1-2mm under it at late night. I checked it a few times on different walls and the result is the same. I used to drop to 5'10.75.

avi said on 14/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs said on 14/Nov/22

Yeah I tend to measure between 5'11.5 -5'11.8 by early evening so I generally say on here 5'11.75
If asked my height I say 5'11.5 or a little under 6'0.

@Progking185

Yeah I think 6'2-6'3 is most

If I could change my height right now (with no pain lol) I'd probably choose 6'2.25 so I'm a "strong 6'2"
I know 100% wouldn't choose 6'4 or 6'5

6'3 or 6'4 is like the last normal tall.

6'3 is common enough to encounter even with smaller sized crowds
For example going to the mall even with a small amount of people present seems there always a 6'3 even 6'4 guy at times

Jdubbz said on 14/Nov/22
@c-mo:

Fair enough then.

@avi:

Dude... are you seriously doing this again? We know that being very tall has some downsides. You don't need to bring it up every time you post. The last time this happened I refuted almost all your points, and you either went MIA or just didn't want to respond. You have a knack for trying to crap on very tall heights almost every time you post. I don't know how you do it man, it's like a superpower.

"I think some people here are a bit detached from reality at times where they think 6'5-6'6 is some great or desirable height when there is a limit in which the "benefits" of height begin to dwindle."

I know that's directed at me. Certain have heights have benefits that aren't immediately obvious, such as how you are perceived by society or how people inherently have more respect for those who tower over them. I've listed all the benefits ad nauseam a few months ago, so I don't care to go into that again. The bottom line is that I know what your height is like since I've been that height before, but you have absolutely no idea what my height is like. Don't pretend you know the disadvantages and advantages when you've never experienced being over 6'5 before, let alone over 6'0. That's all I have to say.

Jackie Lee said on 14/Nov/22
@Poster
Believe what you want but I am not going to change my mind. If 4'10 is all it takes to be a dwarf then lots of women are dwarves. I rarely see a legit dwarf in my life. I would consider Simone biles to be very short but not a dwarf.

Progking185 said on 14/Nov/22
@avi, Dan184 yeah 6'2-6'3 is solidly tall, 6'0-6'1 low tall, and then after 6'3 that is seen as very tall by more people. However 6'3 gets 6'5 guesses sometimes. I think 6'2.5(or somewhere 189-190 midday) is maybe my ideal height to be solidly tall but not that standout

Maahin Chowdhury said on 14/Nov/22
@KD92
Around 177-177.5 cm

adrianjacobs said on 14/Nov/22
@Avi
Are your measurements the exact average?

Peter 180cm said on 14/Nov/22
@KD92 You may look 177-178 so if you claim that you should be safe. Although you just have to measure yourself properly to know your actual height.

Peter 180cm said on 14/Nov/22
@ adrianposter We're similar in height and i feel atleast above average in Greece considering all ages. I'm always guessed 180+ and usually 182-183,a very solid height.

AB-177CM said on 14/Nov/22
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Nov/22
@slimjames210

I am exactly 5'10.25 out of bed, by bedtime I'm 5'9.5.

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My low is just a few mm over yours. My low is 176.6-176.8 cm. It varies, but it is around that range.

AB-177CM said on 14/Nov/22
@KD92 said on 13/Nov/22
If my eyelevel is 165.5 at night what height do i claim
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It depends, because some humans have a low and a high eye level, but if we look far from that, then you might have a very average eye level, so I think your evening low-height is 177 cm, or 5’9.69.

slimjames210 said on 13/Nov/22
Rob, that's interesting. I measured much later in the day and I was indeed closer to the 5'9.5" mark. Is 5'9.75" a fairer claim then?

Poster said on 13/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee: That's not MY opinion on the start of dwarfism. That definition comes from a professional advocacy group for "little people". There are two general types of dwarfism. That's dwarfs who are proportional and dwarfs who aren't proportional. Not all dwarfs are disproportional. Proportional dwarfs once were called midgets, but that term became akin to an insult or a slur. Personally, I don't agree with their definition for a variety of reasons. I think that for white younger Americans, it might start at 4'8 for females while it might start at 5'0 for males (four inch gender gap).

Ariana Grande is taller than 4'10. Simone Biles is a dwarf at her height if you go by the group's definition. As I said, not all dwarfs are like Peter Dinklage or Verne Troyer. As for Southeast Asian women, I do think that they should be categorized in a way that recognizes their environment/heredity (one of the problems I have with the group's one-size-fits-all definition).

dreus23 said on 13/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee

In my experience it's actually the opposite, I tend to see way more above averagely tall women (5'6+), especially among younger girls, than tall guys. Then again, I feel as if I mostly pay attention to women taller than me (over 5'8), guys somewhat noticeably shorter than me (under 5'7), and guys massively taller than me (6'3+) in that exact order, so it could just be in my head

KD92 said on 13/Nov/22
If my eyelevel is 165.5 at night what height do i claim

avi said on 13/Nov/22
I know a lot of times the taller people here get upset when I bring it up but apparently another study shows another health risk of being too tall (link below):

Click Here


There was a study with a large sampling size that proved that taller people are much more at risk for cancer. Also joint issues and back issues.

I always thought that heart issues were higher risk for those below average height (other than heart pumping harder if you're really tall or overweight).

It appears heart disease (Atherosclerosis) may be higher risk in shorter people than taller, but atrial fibrillation seems to be more prevalent in taller people.

The article states "very tall" which to me means 6'3-6'4 starting with those 6'5+ probably being at high risk (taller you are the more chance obviously)

Not sure if weak tall people like 5'11-6'1 area be at more risk than average 5'8-5'10.

I know the politician Fetterman from Pennsylvania had this issue and he had a stroke too he is listed as being 6'7-6'8 tall and overweight.


Thought it be interesting to share.

I think some people here are a bit detached from reality at times where they think 6'5-6'6 is some great or desirable height when there is a limit in which the "benefits" of height begin to dwindle.

That limit may be 6'2 or it may be 6'4 but it definitely isn't 6'5+ !

It appears the bigger your body horizontal or vertical the more maintenance/ care you need and there is just more risk of things going awry.

c-mo superduperultramegastrong 5'9 range said on 13/Nov/22
@Jdubbz

lol the nickname is supposed to be funny first and foremost . for the lulz

however it is not excessive or exeggerated . i am even a little above 5'9 flat at my extreme low and am even a bit above 5'10 first thing out of bed

i am superdupermegastrong lel

avi said on 13/Nov/22
@Dan84 said on 14/Oct/22

I'm not at least in my eyes considered "solid tall" but at almost 6'0 flat I at times feel rather tall but other times shorter.

It does depend on how large the crowd is and how the dice rolls in terms of randomly having a bunch of tall guys being present in an area at any given time.

I think at 6'2-6'3 you will almost all the time feel solidly tall.
5'11-6'1 is a weird height range in the sense you can feel not so tall.

Supermarket is a wild card. At a decently crowded time you will get those 6'1-6'4 range guys.
A guy like me will feel a bit shorter.

Then there's always that one 6'5-6'6 guy who pops up but we tend to notice taller people more and can get a false sense of statistics.

I don't like feeling shorter but also would not like to be super tall because it is awkward and I'm a more reserved person.

6'2 would be my max height I think.

avi said on 13/Nov/22
@adrianjacobs said on 12/Nov/22
"Rob, would you say the average eye level for a man who is 6ft is more like 171cm flat or 171.5cm?"


I'm almost 6'0 (5'11.5-5'11.8 normally by early evening)

My eye level clears 5'7 for sure.
I'd think a strong 6'0 should be 5'7.5ish

Hght181 said on 13/Nov/22
@Rob
Another code issue I thought, before I seen your YouTube comments.. But nice to see the comments again. I hope your ok 👍 its strange typing my username in the username field now.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Nov/22
@slimjames210

I am exactly 5'10.25 out of bed, by bedtime I'm 5'9.5.

Sean Forrest said on 13/Nov/22
@cmo - I'll concede that 5'9 might not be the exact most common height, but a close range like 5'8-5'10 would probably cover it.

I don't know how they calculate the average but going by what you said - that's called the 'mean' height which is interchangeable but probably how they calculated it.
Do you agree on the percentile?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Nov/22
Hey Rob, how about comedians David Earl and Doug Stanhope? I can't find any height listings for David but he generally looks 5'10 maybe 5'10.25 I think. As for Doug, he looks and claims 5'7.

Jackie Lee said on 13/Nov/22
@Poster

Dwarfism is a medical condition, not being under a certain height. That would mean most southeast Asian women are dwarfs and Simone bile and Ariana Grande are dwarves. For Pete's sake a dwarf looks like Peter dinklage and Verne troyer, not the former mentioned.

slimjames210 said on 13/Nov/22
Hi Rob, what is a typical low for someone 5'10.25" first thing out of bed?

Jdubbz said on 12/Nov/22
@c-mo:

No offense man, but what is up with that username? Aren't you like a quarter inch taller than 5'9? More power to you if you're proud of your height, but "superduperultramegastrong" seems a bit excessive, no?

Poster said on 12/Nov/22
Jackie Lee must live in Central America or Southeast Asia if he sees 4'8 women in the supermarket while he rarely sees women taller than 5'9! 4'10" is the official start of dwarfism. Even in the short section of our town, you rarely see women under 4'10. 4'11 is surprisingly somewhat common, though.

adrianposter said on 12/Nov/22
I’m 181.3 cm in the morning and 179.5 at a low and I feel dead average among young guys.

Vick said on 12/Nov/22
Rob,
Can dipping at 7/8 8!hours into the days still count as solid 6’0?

Jdubbz said on 12/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee:

I've noticed the same amount of each. Statistically, that should be the case. Perhaps you notice tall men more than tall women? Tall women are around the same height as average men, so they blend into a crowd very easily. Tall men are taller than everyone, so they stick out. That could be why.

adrianjacobs said on 12/Nov/22
Rob, would you say the average eye level for a man who is 6ft is more like 171cm flat or 171.5cm?

Darksol64 said on 12/Nov/22
@ Jackie must be your area or just coincidence.

I have the opposite going on over here, I swear I live in shortsville (for guys at least) because the average guy seems to be maybe 5'7 and it's like 1 in 20 guys break 6 ft even though statistically it should be around 1 in 6. I see a lot more guys in the short-very short 5'4-5'6 range than guys tall/very tall 6'1-6'4.

Females seem to fare taller, above the US average of 5'3.75 for sure. I'm a almost 6'2 guy with a solid 5'9.25 eyeline and I see more girls at my eye level than I do guys my height....when statistically only 1 in 35 girls should be 5'9.25 and about 1 in 12-15 guys should be my height or more. And of course I check to make sure the girls are in regular shoes. Sometimes they'll have a 2 inch chunk sandal type but I have a 1.5 inch running shoe so it's not a huge difference. More often than not, the girls I see at 5'9 or better are wearing really flat low footwear. I wonder how many of them don't like such a height thus the footwear.

Maahin Chowdhury said on 12/Nov/22
@Jackie Lee
Honestly I rarely see men above 6’3 and 5’10 for women. I think the most common height range is 5’7-5’11 for men and 5’2-5’6 for women. I do sometimes see 6’0-6’2 men and 5’7-5’9 women but they’re more uncommon.
And a 4’11 girl is often average? Lol mate she would often be the shortest out of her friends and a 4’11 girl is equivalent to a 5’4 guy.

Gian 181cm said on 12/Nov/22
nice name c-mo xD

Maahin Chowdhury said on 12/Nov/22
@Vsquad
You feel average at 6’1? Do you live in the Netherlands?

Lankyweasel635 said on 12/Nov/22
From current data:

The expected average height of a healthy population should be 163 cm (5'4") for women and 176.5 cm (5'9-1/2") for men – as defined by the WHO growth reference standards. From this, the average height of a healthy human being is 169.5 cm (5'6-3/4").

Interestingly, the global average height is 159.5 cm (5'2-3/4"") for women, and 171 cm (5'7-1/4") for men – it's lower than we'd expect. From this, the average height of a human being is 165.3 cm (5'5").

Black Noir said on 12/Nov/22
Sorry Rob I can’t see that link mate, so you would say manu is 184 cm? Or 186 cm?

Vsquad said on 12/Nov/22
I'm 186.5-187 cm range out of bed, 185-185.5 cm range around midday/after going out, and 184-184.5 range as my lowest at night. I can hold up to 185.5 if its a lazy day at home.

I've found a lot of people still refer to me as "tall" recently, although to be fair I've simply never heard someone refer to me as otherwise so I'm basically collecting every tall reference I get (lol). Even had a 6'2 co-worker guess me at their height which was odd.

I usually feel average walking through a crowded shopping centre or when I go to the city. Also 5'8-5'10 girls from my perspective literally feel like the same height as me.

Jackie Lee said on 12/Nov/22
Also has anyone noticed that tall men are more common than tall women and short women are more common than short men?

For instance I see lots of 6'3 guys but rarely see 5'10 girls (equivalent to 6'3 guy).

A 4'11 girl is often average in her group of friends but a 5'4 guy is almost always the shortest guy in the room. Why is this???

Jackie Lee said on 12/Nov/22
I rarely see women who are taller than 5'9 tbh. I just went to the supermarket and most women are 4'8-5'8 at the tallest.

c-mo superduperultramegastrong 5'9 range said on 11/Nov/22
i am not sure if average means most common necessarily . an average is the addition of all heights divided by the number of the measured people

imagine you have a room with 20 guys in it and 10 of them are 170cm while the other 10 are 190cm . the average height would be 180cm but there is not a single 180cm guy in it

Black Noir said on 11/Nov/22
Hey rob how tall do u think my kitchen rules chef manu feildel is?

AK World said on 11/Nov/22
Hey @Rob,
How do you decipher if the celebrity is losing height in posture in your photos with them?

TDL said on 10/Nov/22
Hey Rob how much height do you think these boots give? Click Here

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Sean Forrest said on 10/Nov/22
After looking at height percentile sources, and looking closely to men's heights in the UK (20-55), this is my height tier list:

5'9 - 50% exactly average and most common
5'8 and 5'10 37% and 63% low average and solid average
5'7 and 5'11 25% and 75% shortish and tallish
5'6 and 6'0 15% and 85% typical short and tall
5'5 and 6'1 9% and 91% solid short and solid tall
5'4 and 6'2 4% and 96% noticeably standout short and standout tall/ beginning of involving their height in a first interaction with people if they're tall.
5'3 and 6'3 2% and 98% very short and very tall. tall jokes common
5'2 and 6'4 99% common to be shortest and tallest in a supermarket.

Anything greater difference than average becomes less common but possibly becomes much rarer to find, could count with two hands to find these heights in a town -going shorter than 5'0 at

Black Noir said on 9/Nov/22
Hey rob, what had happened to the comments? If I may… you don’t always need to answer every question a person asks on here. They can use there heads and find the answers they seek in the search bar option u have. I’ve used the search bar option more times then I can count. I get so annoyed worth people asking you stupid questions like “ can I claim 5’8 if I’m 171 cm at night” etc.

slimjames210 said on 9/Nov/22
Hi Rob, if I'm 5'10.25 in the morning and around 5'9.75 in the evening, would I be considered a solid 5'10" guy by celebheights standards?

Poster said on 17/Oct/22
@Okidoki: It's somewhat rare to see VERY tall women. You see 5'9 and 5'10 women on a fairly routine basis in the "tall" part of town. That's not the case in the "short" part of town. It SEEMS like the average is 5'6" here while it could be 5'3" there.

Caleb 178.7cm said on 17/Oct/22
Here's my list of the 10 tallest known non-pathological giants who are currently alive:

1. Bob Wegner - 7'8.5
2. Paul Sturgess - 7'7.26
3. Robert Bobroczky - 7'7
4. Shawn Bradley - 7'6
5. Yao Ming - 7'5.5
6. Daniel Gilchrist - 7'5.5
7. Olivier Rioux - 7'5.33
8. Tacko Fall - 7'5.25
9. Calvin Lane - 7'5
10. Jamarion Sharp - 7'5

Let me know if you have any corrections please. :)

adrianjacobs said on 17/Oct/22
@Okidoki You make it sound like 5'9-5'10 women are something special in Sweden. They are about as common in Sweden as 6'0-6'1 men are in the US. Equally much above average and very common.

adrianjacobs said on 17/Oct/22
@dreus23 182cm is at the very most "very tall" for a woman in Sweden, but it's not even close to enormous. You probably don't know how 182cm looks if you think that's "enormous". I wouldn't even call 6'1 enormous for a woman in Stockholm either. I see probably 2 or 3 out of 30 women that height or taller.

(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 17/Oct/22
@jodie 5ft 6.5 at night on a woman is a fairly tall height, I don’t think you going to spot half inch without really looking tbh

(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 17/Oct/22
Jokey if anyone asks your height you can easily say “ I’m about 5.11” no one gunna call you out for saying that, a lot of people gunna guess you at 6ft anyway

Kellan said on 17/Oct/22
@Dan84 Yeah sometimes I run into groups of tall guys. Scary

Siddhesh sawant said on 17/Oct/22
On 16/oct/22 it kerala people not korean
My bad

jokey said on 17/Oct/22
Gian 181cm said on 16/Oct/22
@Jokey
I consider you a solid 5'11, and perhaps it wouldn't be uncommon for guys with your measurements to claim 181cm.
Of course, in CH, people claim the height of the night, and I understand, but if you take the average time of day, it will be close to 5'11, right?

yep i got 5'11 in the midday a few months ago

Alex 6'0 said on 17/Oct/22
Michael 181, i could agree that ill see more 6'5 guys than 6'0 women. Not big difference but still more guys 6'5. Woman at my job is at least 6'1. Possibly 6'2. Outside of her usually 5'10-5'11 are the tallest women i see out and about

celebheightsdude said on 16/Oct/22
I wake up at 6’1 flat, and then go down to 5’11 and 7/8ths at my absolute low. Is this normal shrinkage?

Jodie said on 16/Oct/22
Alex 6'0 said on 15/Oct/22
Tall for a woman id say starts about 5'7. Could argue 5'6.5. 5'8-5'9 is when you solid tall for a woman. Depends on country but I'm going by where i see it in the USA
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I think 5’6.5 is a bit too short to be considered ‘tall for a woman’. it’s above average but i doubt it’s the start of tall.

5’7 is what i consider the start of tall/‘borderline tall’ since that height is a full 3 inches taller than the average female in the US while 5’6 range is only 2 inches taller which i don’t really think of as tall but instead above average.

Gian 181cm said on 16/Oct/22
@Jokey
I consider you a solid 5'11, and perhaps it wouldn't be uncommon for guys with your measurements to claim 181cm.
Of course, in CH, people claim the height of the night, and I understand, but if you take the average time of day, it will be close to 5'11, right?

Gian 181cm said on 16/Oct/22
@Michael 181
Considering an average 5'9 (175.3cm) 181.1cm/5'11.3 would be the 80th percentile, this is enough to enter as tall-ish, especially if it's 181cm at night.
So I agree with you.

Jdubbz said on 16/Oct/22
@John185
“When a person's hair which may contribute ¼ to 1 inch and beard length of a similar amount is factored in, an individual above 184cm/185cm has a head that appears substantially too large in real life.
It is not merely about proportions - aesthetics in relation to head size are not ideal above the 184cm/185cm range”.
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In my experience, the trend is the exact opposite of what you’re stating. Tall and very tall people tend to have smaller heads relative to their height than short, average, and tallish people. I’ve noticed this among other guys around my height, and it applies to me as well.

I don’t have a small head by any means, but at 24.7cm length, it is certainly not big compared to my height of 199cm. I look very tall even when standing on my own with nobody nearby for reference.

Most people with heads that appear “substantially too large” for their bodies are short and average height. 185cm is definitely not special in that regard, as I’ve seen way, way more 6’1 guys with overly large looking heads than 6’2+ guys with the same proportions.

Jdubbz said on 16/Oct/22
Dan84 said on 14/Oct/22
Anybody here who is tall ever found themselves in a position where they felt very average or even short? I'm 184cm before bed so no giant, but certainly feel fairly tall most off the time. At supermarket self checkout yesterday and suddenly felt rather short. Two youngish guys either side of me were the cause. One must have been around 190 cm while the other seemed closer to 195cm. Doesn't happen very often to me and can't say I liked it.
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This situation has happened to me once. Im 199cm so quite a bit taller than you, but I remember a few years ago when I was a little shorter (around 196 or 197cm) sitting in a chair, waiting to get my student ID. I saw two tall looking guys walk in, and thought they were my height or a little shorter. Nope…the shorter one was around 6’7/201cm and the taller one was at least 205 or 206cm. It’s not like they towered over me, but seeing two guys taller than me is incredibly rare. Im surprised it doesn’t happen to you more often, because there are a lot of 190cm+ dudes out there.

Peter 180cm said on 16/Oct/22
@Bobby I agree on what you said.I was already your height when i was 15 and even then i thought i was on the taller side of average. I'm the same height as my father(maybe a fraction shorter actually) and we're also the tallest members of our closest family pool(siblings and parents). I was i had grown to atlest 185 though as my armspan is 194cm lol.

Okidoki said on 16/Oct/22
@Rob I wonder, this website: Click Here Claims one of it's sources are Ncd data, so are these stats based on young men? Btw, i was also curious about an argument made on a site by a person, she found some stats claiming that from the country i am from, that 180-184 was more common for men than 175-179 interms of percentage, as the average is around 180. Is it an equal distribution or is there a bigger percentage of people in certain ranges? Like in Scotland, average is 5'9. Would you more commonly see men in 5'9-5'11 range than 5'7-5'9 for example or opposite? Or would it be equally as many by following a normal distribution, like you explained once?

Okidoki said on 16/Oct/22
@Michael 181 That's an exaggeration, i can tell you that now, from living here in these areas, going a couple of hours around the town. 182 is definitely not extremely tall at all, but should be very tall atleast statistically for young women, it's about 6 inches above average.

Anyways, it's not black and white like that, just looking at statistics. I can tell you now that every single day, walking atleast an hour or more everyday, i see atleast a couple of 5'9-5'10 women, if not 5'9-5'11 women every day, or every other day. 6'0 could possibly be every other day to every couple of days, 6'1, every couple of days to 1-2 weeks. I pay ofcourse attention to footwear, posture etc.

Even 6'1, although close, is not extremely tall in my opinion, i think if you asked inhabitants here, you would get mixed opinions on that. I think most people here would agree that 6'1.5-6'3 range is when it starts and looks very noticeably really tall here for a woman.

In my opinion, about 187 cm is when you could call a woman extremely tall here, 190 definitely. For sure, nothing less than 185-186.

Many people don't even consider 180-182 very tall here, it's mixed opinions on that speaking from experience, but statistically, it is though. I would say 5'11 is about the start of very tall here for a woman, 179 cm maybe.

Interesting what you said about the different standard deviations for men and women though. Does this increase as the height goes up? If a 6'0 women is equivalent to a 6'7 man interms of rarity in the Us, what about a 5'9 woman, 6'4? I though it was 6'3.

So, is a 5'4 woman equivalent to a 5'9 or 5'10 man then?

Since you say that 182 cm is extremely tall in Sweden using stats, let's ask a female poster here, if she at 180 cm, feel extremely tall in the Us.

@Poster At 5'11, do you atleast every day see some women near you're height, 2 inches shorter than you or even the same height as you almost every day? I am just curious, if you don't mind asking heheh.

I do agree with you that many people view 5'1 women very short, in Scandinavia it is. But maybe 5'0 in general could be closer to that though, in most western countries.

Siddhesh sawant said on 16/Oct/22
Indian are not 5'4 they are 166.5 cm average ,even in rural areas people over 40s are over 5'4 barefoot min must be 5'3.5
As india had different ethnicity,cultural,race
Tallest average from my opinion is 5'8.5 (173-174.5) from North Indian and korean
Smallest average is 5'3 from north eastern
(159-161)

adrianjacobs said on 16/Oct/22
@Michael 181 Oh, so even though you live in America, you know better than swedes themselves how common 2m guys are around here? Interesting

Height inflation in Sweden? There is none. If anything, I would say downplaying and claiming you are a bit shorter than you really are is more common.

I have been measured at 6'1 by doctors and I see women taller than me almost every time I go out. I was at at a small cafe earlier this week and saw two women taller than me.

dreus23 said on 16/Oct/22
@Adrianjacobs

Alright, you've got to be trolling at this point lmao. 182 cm for a woman, in Sweden, is considered enormous. Implying that the average is 165 cm for women and 181 cm for men, it's the equivalent of a 198 cm man. I don't know how you have such a warped perception of average height in Sweden, but there's clearly something wrong with it. As I've said before, I live in central Stockholm, and I was raised only a bit outside central Stockholm

@Bg guy2

What do you mean? 5 cm is a noticeable height difference. Besides, I put 177 cm at the end of the "low average" range, meaning that it's almost solid average. I put 182 cm at the start of kinda tall, meaning that it still can look average at times, but usually appears above average

Michael 181 said on 16/Oct/22
Majestic Butterfly said on 13/Oct/22
Here is my chart for the US!

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I think it’s a decent chart but you have to remember that men have a much larger standard deviation for height than women. In most studies for men it ranges 2.5-2.75 inches for almost populations and only 2-2.3 inches for women. So if the average for women is 5’4 and for men 5’9, a woman that is 6’ who is 8 inches above average is MUCH taller for her gender than a man who is 6’5 and 8 inches over average! In fact looking at that ANSUR 2 data I mentioned earlier, there were about 2000 women, maybe it was 1990 women total for the count. There were only 6 women at or above a solid 5’11 and only one woman measure 6’ flat and she was the tallest of almost two thousand US women. In the men’s data the tallest individual iirc was 6’8.

Just using the difference in standard deviations, a 6’0 woman is about equal to a 6’7 man in rarity. I’m over 181cm and I have met one woman in the past year who was about my height in public, and maybe 2 others who were within an inch of me. Women over 5’10 are fairly rare in public and the rarity goes up significantly every half inch. Then again I’ve only seen one man I’m confident was at least 6’7 in public in the last 2 years. He had Conan’s leggy build and looked very uncomfortable in public. I realized I was staring and then stopped but my bud and I both had to guess his height after. For reference my buddy is also about 182ish and we were fairly tall in most situations all day until we saw that guy. I notice women over 5’10 act the same way here, lots of men stare and not for nice reasons.

Anyways the point is that women are much more grouped around the average height than men are. There are a lot of short and tall men. There are not very many short or tall women by comparison.

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QM6'1.5"QM said on 15/Oct/22
This website claims that average ukrainian (male) height is almost 181cms ...guys, there is no way ukr average is that tall

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I haven’t studied that population but it’s possible. Russians are fairly short for that part of Europe at about 176 average but the baltics nearby are also very tall and over 179 across the board. Estonia in particular is close to Dutch height. The region from west germany all the way to Russia is a genetic cline with a mix of Slavic/Germanic/Baltic/Uralic/Turkic populations mixing for the past two thousand years. Ukraine in particular is the likely Urheimat of the Indo European expansion and the IE populations were tall compared to the Anatolian farmers (but shorter than the hunter gatherers). So it’s an area that has historically had tallish people, compared to Russia which only got a comparatively stable population about 1200 years ago.

jokey said on 15/Oct/22
QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Oct/22
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).

ye i was 177.8 cm, 5'10 exactly at a low when i turned 18. Now at almost 21 i'm 179.8 cm or 5'10 3/4 at night.

Alex 6'0 said on 15/Oct/22
Tall for a woman id say starts about 5'7. Could argue 5'6.5. 5'8-5'9 is when you solid tall for a woman. Depends on country but I'm going by where i see it in the USA

dreus23 said on 15/Oct/22
So a bit off-topic, but is it possible to have temporary height loss occur for multiple days? I'm around 171 cm, and in August I remember measuring consistently a strong 171 cm, usually a bit over it as well. In the morning, I could reach as high as 173 cm. Once, I measured 172.2 cm in the afternoon. I know those marks were accurate as I have previous height marks on that same wall. Recently, I'm not really reaching those marks as easily as I did back then though. Sometimes I measure as low as 170 cm flat and in public, I've been feeling as if I'm a lot shorter than that

For example, I have a friend who is around 5'6, who I felt a lot taller than back in August. This last week, I've felt as if we're almost the same height. I've been pretty sick for around two weeks, still am, and I often feel muscle tension because of that. I also haven't slept that well. Could this cause temporary height loss, and how could I regain my height if that's the case?

adrianposter said on 15/Oct/22
Rob, if you measure yourself 10 minutes after waking would you have already lost a few mm?

Gian 181cm said on 15/Oct/22
@Emil
And in the UK? @ZDA is about 6'0 and sit at the beginning of tall height. About Latin America it is true, many countries in the range 5'7-5'9, but I live in a region with German influence so the average seems to be higher here than the rest of the country and other countries (an opinion).

Maahin Chowdhury said on 15/Oct/22
@Majestic Butterfly
Not a bad height chart. I think very tall starts at 6’3 for men and 5’10 for women. Tall starts at 6’0 for men and 5’7 for women. Extremely tall starts at 6’1 for women. I agree with the rest tho.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 15/Oct/22
@bgh

I've been to Spain several times and I doubt the average male Spaniard is above a flat 5'8. Obv younger guys will be taller than that.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 15/Oct/22
This website claims that average ukrainian (male) height is almost 181cms ...guys, there is no way ukr average is that tall...maybe 5'10.25" is closer to reality, but it's cannot be over 5'11"!.
Pretty "smart" step to make ukr in top-10 list, but its 1-1.5inches shorter in real life!
Anyway this website is too political/liberal.

Click Here

c-mo superduperultramegastrong 5'9 range said on 14/Oct/22
@john 185

thanks for your post . but i was hoping that you analyze 5'9 and 5'10 regarding proportions and other things just how you analyzed heights like 6'0

by the way i think it is already well known but i would like to say it again. in my opinion the perfect height is about / around 180cm

Big Ben said on 14/Oct/22
Hello @Sandy Cowell - Thank you for the kind comment 🙂 I will most certainly give you a proper reply soon when I wake up 👌 Cheers!

Mot said on 14/Oct/22
Hi Rob! I wake up between 5'11.5" and 5'11.75" (almost 182) and I usually go to bed at 5'11", probably 180 flat is my absolute lowest after a long day of work. I also measured myself with the pharmacy's electronic stadiometer and I got 181 at half past midday.

According to you is it better to claim 5'11" or 5'11.25"? I live in Italy and we use the metric system so I just want to understand if I have to say 1.80m OR 1.81m when people asking my height.

Thanks! :D

AverageSlovene said on 14/Oct/22
Our statistics bureau just published that the average Slovene male is a solid 178 cm tall (5'10.25). I think it is believable, but definitely not under.

Bobby said on 14/Oct/22
@Peter 180cm

I am 178 cm (typically), and I felt the average height in downtown Athens was possibly a solid 5'9 (176 cm) compared to my own. A lot of the Greek guys in my age range were shorter than me barring some that edged me out or were my height within a half inch or so. From one Greek to another, I would say that 178 cm is above average in Greece. I hit 180 cm in shoes (I know that doesn't count) so my height definitely feels above average there.

Maybe for young Greek guys like us, the average is around 177 cm, but I would say the overall average is 175-176 cm. I am also the tallest member of my family whenever I visit, so I guess I lucked out on the gene pool.

bgh said on 14/Oct/22
European countries average:

Norway - 179
Sweden - 178-179
Denmark - 178
Spain - 174
Portugal - 173
France - 174
Italy - 174
Greece - 175
Germany - 178

Arch Stanton said on 14/Oct/22
Ah I was thinking Prince was 5 ft 3 range, yes like Kevin Hart I'd call him extremely short then.

Nik Ashton said on 14/Oct/22
@ Rockaway - For this age group I doubt that 5’5” is extremely short and I doubt that 5’6” is very short. The average may be nearer 5’10” than 5’9” but I have a hunch it just falls below 5’10” by about 1/4”. I think 6’1” is just simply tall with a big of change too!

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Arch Stanton said on 14/Oct/22
Rapha said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway said on 11/Oct/22
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot

5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant

I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.

IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”

@Rockaway. I agree a 193 cm guy is tall and most people will notice this person because of his height. But here is the point: at 193 cm you are still in a certain height frame where people do not turn around in the streets because of your height. To be considered very tall or unusually tall you need to be 200 cm or above. A Giant would need to be at least 210 cm tall, thats 35 cm standard deviation from the average, in the opposite direction it would be a height of 140 cm to be considered a dwarf for males. A guy like Dany de Vito is very short but not a dwarf for me.

I would tweak that to 6'3-6'6 as very tall range, 6'6-6'10 extremely tall range and 6 ft 10 as a true giant, though I can see an argument for 6 ft 8 and over as giant. I don't think guys start to look extremely tall until they hit a strong 6'5 range like Howard Stern or Klitschko etc, around the 197 mark. Short range I typically think of as 5 ft 5 - 5 ft 8, "very" short would be more like a Prince or Michael J Fox sort of height. Extremely short like a Kevin Hart sort of height.

Tallish guy said on 14/Oct/22
@QM6'1.5"QM

That is great!Did you already have a beard back in your 18s and how old are you now?I also grew a 2cm after 18 and im 20 now, will see if this year would bring more!Also what is your wingspan?

adrianjacobs said on 14/Oct/22
@Big Ben Well, I'm still not convinced you are 179cm.

Dan84 said on 14/Oct/22
Anybody here who is tall ever found themselves in a position where they felt very average or even short? I'm 184cm before bed so no giant, but certainly feel fairly tall most off the time. At supermarket self checkout yesterday and suddenly felt rather short. Two youngish guys either side of me were the cause. One must have been around 190 cm while the other seemed closer to 195cm. Doesn't happen very often to me and can't say I liked it.

Sagen said on 14/Oct/22
Im measuring 4mm taller when im standing really straight-not to the point of busting a gut obv- than when i'm standing "normal straight"
what is the correct way of measuring?

Rapha said on 14/Oct/22
QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Oct/22
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).
I mean any height after 18 is more about ossification as I've say before ;))

@ QM. For me you are a legit 188 cm guy.

Majestic Butterfly said on 13/Oct/22
Here is my chart for the US!

Women:

4'11 and under: very short

5'0-5'1: short

5'2-5'3.0: "shortish", below average

5'3.75-5'4: average range

5'5-5'6: above average

5'7-5'8: borderline tall

5'9-5'11: tall

6'0+: very tall

Men:

4'11-5'4: very short

5'5-5'6: short

5'7-5'8.0: "shortish", below average

5'8.75-5'9: average range

5'10-5'11: above average

6'0-6'1: borderline tall

6'2-6'3: tall

6'4-6'5: very tall

6'6+: extremely tall

You don't have to agree with me but this is just based on statistics and my experience here.

Maahin Chowdhury said on 13/Oct/22
@ZDA
Yes I live in the UK and I think it depends on the age group of people. Around elderly guys, I do feel quite tall. I think the average is probably around the 5’7 range for elderly men. But around younger guys I can feel closer to average. I think the average is 5’9.5 for young guys. But I think the overall average in the UK could possibly be around 5’8.5-5’8.75 range, if you include all the ethnic minorities and the age groups.
I think for women, it can be slightly under 5’4.

Bobby said on 13/Oct/22
@John777

I would expect from 9-10 inches at a minimum. At most, there is a foot difference.

Emil said on 13/Oct/22
@Gian 181cm

At 183 cm, I only feel normal tall in some southern European countries (Portugal, Spain and Italy mainly). In other European countries I feel average range.

In Latin America or South East Asia, I've stood out in big crowds though

QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Oct/22
Yesterday. I just measured myself at 6'1.75" or 187.2-3cms in the evening barefoot. It proves that men can grow after 18y.o. For me it's a good 2cms. I came here like QM6'1 (i was real 185cms flat, back then in my 18).
I mean any height after 18 is more about ossification as I've say before ;))

Peter 180cm said on 13/Oct/22
In terms of average height. I'm from Greece and i'd say average in Italy is probably similar,atleast in the southern parts. 175-177cm for young men is solid average and a little less like 174-175 for general population. I also believe most reported avegages are abit stretched as they are generally self-reported and most people claim their height in-shoes or just give a random number(thus probably exaggerating). I always feel above average and sometimes tallish at my height,no matter the situation and the people surrounding me.

Big Ben said on 13/Oct/22
Hey @adrianjacobs - I don't know if you saw my reply to you on October 5th but I'll copy paste it for you here:

Big Ben said on 5/Oct/22
@adrianjacobs - Click Here Here’s me with Jimmie Åkesson back in 2019 (when I was a 35 lbs heavier chunky feller). For some reason he’s always slouching when posing with people but when he’s talking to people he has good posture and when he was standing straight I was still a bit taller.

Bg guy2 said on 13/Oct/22
Rocaway Well since the average 20 years old is 176.9 and maybe falls to 176 till the end of the day.I would say 5ft11 is definitely above average and 5ft6 as the start of short

Poster said on 12/Oct/22
@Meltdown: That sounds about right. That's why Dutch women are taller than Indonesian men. Dutch men are taller than the former, and Indonesian women are shorter than the latter. Ethnicity and region play roles, but your pattern of sex differences is constant if you factor in those variables.

Nik Ashton said on 12/Oct/22
@ Emil - It’s 5’9” in the Uk as Big Rob Paul says. The UK has a lot of tall men these days but there are a lot of short men in the UK these days too.

John185 said on 12/Oct/22
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 8/Oct/22
@John185

how would you judge 5'9 and 5'10 ?



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@c-mo

5'9 - 5'10 is certainly a decent range, there is something good to be said about average range heights just as there are positive things to say about tall heights.
I think legit 5'10 is quite underrated - sure, it's fairly average in relation to other men in western countries, but in real life it has very balanced proportions whilst simultaneously looking compact. (Not a bad thing especially if joining the military.)
Daniel Craig is a good example of how good 5'10 can potentially look in films.
I also think that with respect to the worldwide average being something around 171cm or 5'8 at most for young men, people who are 5'9 - 5'10 should spend some time in southern and eastern Asia to gain perspective on their height.
5'9/5'10 in Thailand for example is the equivalent of 6'0/6'1 in Europe.

The interesting thing about head size is that there isn't much difference in head size between someone that is 183cm/184cm vs 185cm/186cm. The 1cm to 2cm difference is spread out over leg and torso length as well as head length, but the difference in head size is actually surprisingly noticeable in real life from my observations.
It seems that this range is markedly transitional between balanced tall and lanky overall.

When a person's hair which may contribute ¼ to 1 inch and beard length of a similar amount is factored in, an individual above 184cm/185cm has a head that appears substantially too large in real life.
It is not merely about proportions - aesthetics in relation to head size are not ideal above the 184cm/185cm range.

Gian 181cm said on 12/Oct/22
If the average is 181cm in Sweden at least the guy would be around 187cm to feel tall, maybe 186cm can feel tall/tall-ish on some occasions.
It's funny to imagine countries with an average of 181-182-183cm as I'm used to thinking of countries with an average between 173-178cm, the concept of tall changes totally but still a 183cm guy in Sweden would probably feel tall-ish/tall visiting others countries in Europe and the rest of the world.

Rapha said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway said on 11/Oct/22
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot

5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant

I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.

IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”

@Rockaway. I agree a 193 cm guy is tall and most people will notice this person because of his height. But here is the point: at 193 cm you are still in a certain height frame where people do not turn around in the streets because of your height. To be considered very tall or unusually tall you need to be 200 cm or above. A Giant would need to be at least 210 cm tall, thats 35 cm standard deviation from the average, in the opposite direction it would be a height of 140 cm to be considered a dwarf for males. A guy like Dany de Vito is very short but not a dwarf for me.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 12/Oct/22
agree Bobby . 177cm at low is solid average even for younger men

Rockaway said on 12/Oct/22
Sorry if I offended you. It is not a joke. Please re-read the title of my post... Curious what you would have 5'11 and 5'6 as for 18-50 y/o in USA? Lol..

"@Bg guy2 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway is that a joke really? 5ft8short? 5ft11 a little above average ? 5ft6 very short? I think most people here will laugh at you a lot"

ZDA said on 12/Oct/22
@ Maahin Chowdhury
I’m surprised you feel noticeably above average or tallish at 5 ft 10, normally those who are 5 ft 11 feel that way.

I assume you live in the U.K.? In this case, is the average really 5 ft 9? More like 5 ft 8.5? I feel 5 ft 10 guys will only feel above average if the average is 5 ft 8.5. 1.5 inches above average is the beginning of “feeling noticeably” above average.

Seems as though the prospect of U.K. average of 5 ft 9 is unlikely, maybe late morning.

ZDA said on 12/Oct/22
Look how d¥mb @rockaway height chart is.

In his case, 5 ft 10 is “average” whereas 5 ft 8 is “short”, but 6 ft is only “above average”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LMAOO

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 12/Oct/22
@Emil

Overall average for men is 5'9. Even young people are under 5'10, the average for young people is a measured 177.5cm. Now, this is likely done earlier in the day than evening so in reality the average is closer to a flat 177cm. Probably around the 5'9.75 mark.

Bg guy2 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway is that a joke really? 5ft8short? 5ft11 a little above average ? 5ft6 very short? I think most people here will laugh at you a lot

Leesheff1985 said on 12/Oct/22
Rockaway how can you have five six as very short but six foot as start of tall makes no sense as both are three inches away from the average height in opposite directions. If six foot is the start of tall five six is the start of short not very short I never feel very short

Progking185 said on 11/Oct/22
@bgguy2 yeah your chart is good, 6'0 is one of the tallest around like in a small room, but in a crowd it can be more tallish at times. I think because of young guys 6'1+ is tall in more settings. 6'3+ is usually one of the few tallest around. I would say its borderline very tall and standout as its about 5 inches above the young average, at least in Canada and U.S. 6'3.5 maybe is start of very tall. For example I just remember in some of my big classes in university usually there was just like 1 or two 6'3-6'4 guys, a rare 6'6-6'7 guy, and the rest shorter. There were a good amount 6'0-6'2 where it feels decently tall but not really standout

Bobby said on 11/Oct/22
@Meltdown

In my case, I'm a genuine 5'10 guy but people think I'm taller because they claim to be my height.

ZDA said on 11/Oct/22
@meltdown

From late morning to evening on average we shrink another fraction 1cm, so young white guys are 5 ft 9.5 range 176.5-177 cm. I go by evening/low height as I feel that’s our real height at the end of the day.

I have no problems with your opinions or others, if you go by the cdc morning height statistics where young non Hispanic white guys are 5 ft 10 then that’s fine.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 11/Oct/22
Any idea on David earl Rob? From Derek, after life and his new film Brian and Charles. I think he looks like a 5'10 guy maybe 5'10.25.

Bobby said on 11/Oct/22
@dreus23

I wouldn't call 177 cm a low average, I'd say that's a solid average height for men. The difference between 174 cm and 177 cm is 3 cm, and while it may not sound like a lot, it is. I am 178 cm (overall) and if I were 3 cm taller, I would be 181 cm or 5'11.25. If I were 5'11.25, I'd feel the difference. So, likewise, if you went from 174 cm (5'8.5) to 177 cm (5'9.7 - slight round-up from 5'9.68), you would feel taller than you were before.

In conclusion, I disagree with your chart. Your ranges for categories are too broad. I know this is based in Sweden, but here in Canada, you would be the average height at 177 cm.

Matt99 said on 11/Oct/22
@adrianposter you seem to forget that there’s only a few thousand celebrity listings whilst the “normal average” constitutes to an entire national population.

Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Meltodwn get out of here wich statistics????The average height in uk and us is 5ft9 and in many european countries including bulgaria.We dont compare it to the netherlands and others abnormal countries that are exceptions

adrianjacobs said on 11/Oct/22
@dreus23 Come on man, you can't seriously call 182cm "kinda tall" for a man in Sweden. I wouldn't even call it very tall for a woman. What part of the country do you live in?

Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Dreus But swedish average is taller than most so maybe 177 is low average there but in uk us and bulgaria its solid average

Bg guy2 said on 11/Oct/22
Dreus 177 cm low average but 182 cm kinda tall?Thats not how it goes brother

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 11/Oct/22
Meltdown said on 9/Oct/22
@ eclipse said on 8/Oct/22

My peak morning height is 5ft 10 or slightly higher. My lowest is 5ft 9.25 or slightly lower. Most of the day I am 5ft9.5 and I still claim "5ft 10" or "just under 5ft 10." I only claim 5ft 9.5 when I am literally comparing with someone in conversation and getting into detail.

There are too many 5ft 8 dudes who claim 5ft 10 because they want women to like them, so I can't afford to deprive myself of my morning height. People already think 5ft 10 is much shorter than it actually is.


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i agree with you . i am around your height ...i am a little above 5'10 fresh out of bed and 5'9.7 - 5'9.75 1 hour after being awake . and i can fall a little bit below 176cm at night like 175.7cm on hard days . and i claim 177cm because i am 176.8cm 2 hours out of bed . sometimes even 177cm . depending on activity

i also brought the argument that i think it is nonsense to claim your low height and to neglect morning height because of the fact that there are so many men lying about their height and claim a height taller than they are (some also dont know their real height and just claim a number they think they are even though they are not) ...so why should i claim my low ? and this is only one reason why i think not to ....

this is not being "honest" or "modest" in my opinion....this is being pointlessly honest or modest and almost naive IMO . no offense to anybody . i respect anybodies opinion who disagrees with me and who wants to claim their low . no problem with that . but i have been given sh*t here because i said i am 5'9.5 instead of "just a 5'9 guy" .

also there are some users here who get offended and triggered when i adviced some users to claim a certain height (for example if someone is 180cm in the morning and 178cm at night and claims 178cm i said he should claim 179cm etc.) because they love to round down their own height . but at the same time they would tell other users to claim a height ...and yeah you guessed it ...they tell them to claim their low or even rounded down height

double standards . i stopped arguing with these people though since it is pointless . you will find such people pretty much everywhere . critizising others for something but do the same just in a different color and sell it as sugar

but anyway i hope nobody gets triggered by this post . i have no time and no nerves to argue again so dont quote me on this

but to get back on topic in my opinion claiming a height you are 2-3 hours out of bed and if needed rounded up is the best . like if you are 178cm after 2 hours being awake claim that . if you are 172.7cm after 2-3 hours then just claim 173cm etc

think about it . when you wake up you will take like 1 hour to get ready to leave the house for work or school . and then you will be among people after 2-3 hours after waking up and will be right in everyday life dynamics .

i never saw the point of "oh you are 179.6cm out of bed and 177.2cm at night after a long day ? just say 177cm"

like nope ...not gonna happen . but to each their own

Rockaway said on 11/Oct/22
My chart. Male heights, 18 - 50 years old, USA, measurement taken after lunch, barefoot

5’5” and below - extremely short
5’6” - very short
5’7” - short
5’8” - short but with boots on can look just below avg
5’9” - IMO still shorter than just “average” but not noticeably so
5’10” - average
5’11” - slightly above average
6’0” - weak tall / solid above average
6’1” - start of solid tall
6’2” - tall
6’3” - very tall
6’4” - 6’6” - extremely tall
6’7” and above - giant

I think people underestimate how tall a true 6’4” afternoon height is.

IMO ideal height range is 5’11.5” - 6’2.5”

John777 said on 11/Oct/22
If the top of your head is on someone shoulder, how much taller is the person than you