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Bobby said on 19/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

It's not your fault. I've been secretly harbouring these feelings about C-Mo for a while now. It has become extremely tiresome. "Hey, everybody, I think the ideal height for a man is 180 cm because it's not too tall and not too short. Is anyone listening to me!?" It's how he acts any time he brings it up, again and again, and again. It's irritating. The first time he talked about it was interesting and perhaps a couple of other times after that, but now he sounds like a broken record.

Not to mention, he contradicted himself by downplaying five and a quarter inches when he said "it's a significant difference, but it's not huge." Significant means huge!

@Canson

I hear you. I'm done now. I just had to get all this off my chest because C-Mo has become an irksome presence on the forum now.
Peter 180cm said on 19/Dec/22
@Maskdemasque That's definitely not an anomaly. I live in an island and i see 175-180cm women very rarely so it really depends on the population of each area.
Peter 180cm said on 19/Dec/22
@adrianjacons You're probably not 6ft range if people guess you 175 often. It's usually the other way around. I'm 180 and the shortest I've been guessed is 178. 180-182 is what i get mostly and sometimes 184-185 which is definitely not the case.
Alex 6'0 said on 19/Dec/22
Jdubzz, yea i typically think of 12 noon for lunchtime height which is typically close to your normal low anyone but sometimes is your low if you're physical earlier in day. Depending on the day and activity i can fluctuate 1/4 inch at lunchtime
dreus23 said on 18/Dec/22
@Maahin Chowdhury

That's interesting, but it really just has to do with better nutrition unless there's other family genes contributing to a taller stature. For example, one of my friends has always been a tall lanky guy. 6'0 in 8th or 9th grade, 6'1 at 16-17, and will more than likely reach 6'2 when he's fully grown. His dad is like 5'9 and his mom like 5'4 if that. However, his maternal grandfather was a solid 6'3, so that's where he got the tall genes from. People just don't mysteriously get taller than what their genes allow them to get; those height genes have to come from somewhere
Bobby said on 18/Dec/22
@c-mo 176 cm

Listen, C-Mo, I have been silently putting up with your nonsense for years. For someone who thinks his height is decent, you spend an inordinate amount of time BSing about what you think is the ideal height for a man. It sounds like insecurity to me. You also downplayed five and a quarter inches even though your friend can see the top of your head. You act like you're above average height when you say nonsense like that.

Who's making assumptions about who? I'm not claiming anything. I am simply implying things, you're the one who's inferring this hogwash.

You literally just said the difference isn't huge after saying it is a significant difference. Which is it? Do you even know what "significant" means? The Merriam-Webster dictionary says: "of a noticeably or measurably large amount." The keyword is "large." What is a synonym of "large"? Let's consult the thesaurus now. Oh, look at that, another word for large is "huge."

Go back to kindergarten, buddy.
adrianjacobs said on 18/Dec/22
@Henrik
Which part of Sweden do you live in? I live in Stockholm and I'm somewhere between 6ft and 6'1. I feel below average for sure, so I can definitely imagine that you feel only average or upper average at 187cm.
I've also noticed the thing with being guessed as shorter than you are. People think I'm 175cm and I've seen countless amount of times guy calling themselves "1.80" when they look 6'1-6'2.
Jdubbz said on 18/Dec/22
@Henrik:

How would 199cm be seen in Sweden? Very tall, or just regular tall? In the US I can go a month or two without seeing anyone taller, but I'm assuming guys over 2 meters are far more common in Sweden.
Canson said on 18/Dec/22
Bobby said on 17/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm

Yes, you do. You constantly talk about how your height is "decent" and play it up as being "good" even though you live in Germany, where the average German man is 180 cm tall. I know you're not German, so you're below-average height in Germany. Now, I know you're going to ask, "how is saying my height is decent or good the same as saying above average?"

@Bobby: it’s a waste of time and energy talking to C-Mo about this. He has spent his time on this forum trying to rationalize his height being good or bad. No such thing as good or bad height.
Jdubbz said on 18/Dec/22
@Bobby and C-mo:

Yikes...I didn't mean to start anything between you two.
c-mo 176cm said on 18/Dec/22
@Bobby

of course i win ...because you are talking nonsense . and you claim things about me that are not true . but if you think you are winning this argument then so be it ....think what you want

me saying that i feel decent at my height in germany does not mean / imply that i am above average .

also keep in mind that the 180cm fighre is for younger men . and likely mostly ethnic germans . and it is likely an earlier in the day measurement . i have always said that for young ethnic german men my height is at the bottom end of the average range . which is decent enough considering the fact that germans are one of the tallest people on earth . when you include all ethnicities and also not only young men then my height is solid average . among non germans my height feels slightly above average even

but it doesnt matter anyway . when i repeatedly said that my height is decent i just wanted to tell how my own height feels like when i was analyzing heights

and regarding my 189cm friend . as i said the difference is significant of course ...but not huge . i didnt mean to say that it is trivial ....just that he doesnt dwarf me

you should stop accusing me of saying stuff that i dont and stop your misinterpretations

and i am writing quickly and dont bother checking my grammar when i write ...i am not a nerd
Henrik said on 18/Dec/22
Sorry for the errors in my last post, I was typing from my phone.
Jdubbz said on 18/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0. I think lunchtime height usually means being up for 4-5 hours, though most people probably do mean 11am-12pm. It's all relative though. I can get up at 10-11 thanks to my current schedule, so most peoples' lunchtime heights would be my one hour out of bed morning height.
AK World said on 17/Dec/22
Hi @Rob,
How tall does this guy look next to Giancarlo Esposito?
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Editor Rob
Could be a bit shy of 5ft 7 there...although not knowing footwear of course.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm

When I see women slightly taller than me I usually check out the footwear, so I'm accounting for that. Obviously 5'10 women aren't the norm, I never said it was. I was merely saying I see more 5'10 women than 6'3 guys in my area.
Bobby said on 17/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm

Yes, you do. You constantly talk about how your height is "decent" and play it up as being "good" even though you live in Germany, where the average German man is 180 cm tall. I know you're not German, so you're below-average height in Germany. Now, I know you're going to ask, "how is saying my height is decent or good the same as saying above average?"

Well, my 'friend,' the answer is simple. Let's use some heuristics. You said your best friend is 189 cm tall compared to your 176 cm. I scrolled down for some contextual evidence and this is what I found, in your own words, "but he doesnt dwarf me nor is there a "huge" difference." I won't mention how atrocious your grammar is, but since you are trivializing such a significant difference in height you are suggesting that you must be above average height. Let's see, 189 cm is commonly thought of as 6'2.5 and 176 cm is 5'9.25. This means you are five and a quarter inches shorter than he is. The eye level of a 6'2.5 guy is 5'10, which means he is looking over your head. Yet, you don't think he's much taller than you are. That's ludicrous.

You claim I am hallucinating, but it's clear you are trying to downplay the difference between you and your friend. You are obsessed and delusional.

Back off, C-Mo. This is a match of wits you won't win.
Alex 6'0 said on 17/Dec/22
Lunchtime height is that 11am-12 noon we're referring to or is that a few hrs up?
Alex 6'0 said on 17/Dec/22
I'm really against claiming out of bed height which you're for under 5 mins and even 1/8 less you're for very short time. If you're up couple hrs thats not bad to claim since decent chunk lost.
Canson said on 17/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: yea that makes no sense what he’s saying to you but that’s typical with height especially when it comes to people either making themselves taller or claiming taller.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 17/Dec/22
@dreus23
Some people nowadays end up taller than their parents. I exceeded my genetic potential as well. My mum is 5’1 and my dad was 5’9, he’s 5’8 now. I’m 5’11 or slightly under it and my brother is 5’10. Apparently I was supposed to end up between 5’7-5’8, probably cuz of my mums height.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Dec/22
@Zaratustraelsabio

I'm from England. In Gloucestershire. No I'm not accounting for heels, I'm talking barefoot height.
Peter 180cm said on 17/Dec/22
@MaskdeMasque 5'9.5 5'10 women are not the norm,maybe they're more like 174-176cm but wear boots with bigger heels. In fact, guessing someone as about an inch taller than he/she is pretty typical because of footwear and posture/hair etc.
Alex 6'0 said on 17/Dec/22
Jdubzz, yea you could say 8 inches plus is start of legit dwarfing. Yes that guy at gym was listed 6'11 on his college basketball team but he looked more like 6'10. I was truley dwarfed.
ZDA said on 17/Dec/22
179 cn 5 ft 10.5, is probably the start of above average/tallish range, at least in the U.K. minimum.
Jdubbz said on 17/Dec/22
@John185:

I'm not assuming anything, I'm just telling you what I've noticed from the people I've talked to irl and on the internet who use "around" or "about" to describe their height. Obviously not everyone who uses "around" is rounding up, it just seems to be the case more often than not. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.

"You wrote your username height as 198.8cm on this site which is a hair over 6'6.25, so you could claim just over 6'6, or 6'6 and a half. There is no need for you to say "around 6'6" or for me to say "around 6'1"."

I'm not sure what your point is here. I don't use "around" and have never been a fan of that because of how vague it is. My username is very precise because this is a height forum, but I just claim 6'6 irl. Specifying a fraction or saying just over 6'6 is kinda meaningless in my case because it's not like the average person can notice the difference anyways.
Henrik said on 17/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee 173 cm

The average height in Sweden in 2008 was 181.5cm (5ft 11.5) for 20 to 29-year-olds and 166.8cm (5ft 5.5) for females. It's 178cm (5ft 10) and 164.6cm (5ft 5) for all age groups (20-74).
Sam83 said on 17/Dec/22
That’s true, maybe I was not standing up straight, and probably just didn’t feel as tall as usual around people who are normally a lot shorter than me! I know one girl claims 5’7 and she had some super high play for heels on which I guess would have put her close or taller than me. Maybe similar to these Click Here
Would be interesting to see if anyone had pictures of comparison to people without heels and then really high pairs to see what the difference change is like!

It was also in the evening, so maybe I had lost a few mm ;)
AK World said on 17/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,

What do you think is the height difference in this photo?
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Editor Rob
There's a tilt favouring guy on right, but guy on left has thicker sneakers (but maybe a bit looser stance?). That's a case if you saw them standing talking together it would probably be easier to tell if it was nearer 4 or 3 inches.
UEDO said on 16/Dec/22
Rob, if I am 5'10 1/4 around 12 hours out of bed, what listing would I get online? 178.4cm? 179.1cm?
Editor Rob
You might be closer to 5ft 10.5 at lunch, so a good shout you could get a 5ft 10.5 listing.
Black Noir said on 16/Dec/22
Hey rob would u argue then that Chris williamson is 5’10?
Editor Rob
With Uncle Joe, I would have said a bit shy of the mark.
John185 said on 16/Dec/22
Jdubbz said on 14/Dec/22
@John185:

"Saying "around 6'1" implies that someone could be a bit over or a bit under, not simply that they are rounding up."

In theory yes, but in my experience, it is far more common for people who use "around" to be rounding up than rounding down.


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If someone says for example "around 6'0" then they could be rounding up or rounding down. You can't simply assume they would be rounding up.
At 6'0.75 I just say 6'1. I could also say "nearly 6'1".

You wrote your username height as 198.8cm on this site which is a hair over 6'6.25, so you could claim just over 6'6, or 6'6 and a half. There is no need for you to say "around 6'6" or for me to say "around 6'1".
chad michaels said on 16/Dec/22
Hello Rob, how much do you think these shoes give?
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Editor Rob
I reckon the insole on that model actually sits quite close to the upper part of the outsole, so no less than 2 inches. 2.25? Would not be surprised.
Meltdown said on 16/Dec/22
@ Darksol64 said on 15/Dec/22

I agree. When it comes to average height ranges, a 5.5–6 inch height differences is the beginning of towering. This is because one man—even if he were a female—would still be the same height or taller than the other man. This is the psychology behind dwarfing. Even the female-converted interpretation of his genetics is larger.

But as you drop down to much shorter heights where 4.5–5 inches is the differential between men and women, that becomes the new dwarfing standard, and likewise for taller people, it could be 7 inches plus that becomes the standard.

I think in general any heights times 1.09 or greater of the same gender becomes the minimum threshold for dwarfing. Some could argue it to be 1.1 to be safe. That is very reasonable.

Example: 5ft 9.5 × 1.1 = 6ft 4.5 dwarfing height.

Or 5ft 9.5 ÷ 1.09 = dwarfs 5ft 3.75
Zaratustraelsabio said on 16/Dec/22
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 9/Dec/22
I swear i see more 5'10 girls than I do 6'3 guys even though statistically they should be very similar.

Where do you live?... Do the 5'10 girls are wearing heels?
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 16/Dec/22
Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown
I think this strikes me as a hasty generalization and cherry picking.
Try doing some research on where you live for more reliable information.

Yeah, that guess doesn’t seem accurate to me. California especially is a relatively short state, so an overall 5’10.5 - 5’11 average seems too high (unless he’s only interacting with upper middle class and upper class white dudes).
rlheight5'11 said on 16/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Yes, we take too few of them especially considering how much time people spend working and raising their children. The importance of breaks probably isn't taken seriously enough

The reason I took time off and claimed furlough was because of someone else in my household, I'll leave it at that. After 6 weeks of furlough, I returned to work.. haven't took a break ever since.
Editor Rob
Yeah one thing I absolutely do NOT recommend is doing a job that is basically every day like I do.

Most people would eventually breakdown or burn out from that kind of schedule.
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 16/Dec/22
Probably 5'10.5" is the average height in Sweden. What do you think
dreus23 said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown

If ur mom is 5'6 then I'm pretty sure you just got her genes. That's pretty much the equivalent of a solid 5'11 guy. Sure your dad is short but if you use the traditional formula, dad's height+mom's height+13 divided by 2 then your predicted height really isn't 5'7 tops, more like 5'7-5'8. I guess you exceeded your genetic potential by a bit, but you might as well just have gotten ur mom's genes
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 16/Dec/22
Sam83@ I measure 182 at night ( not tall not short ) and I’m taller than most girls in heels, you sure you are standing up straight? If I go into town in the day time I’ll more than likely see girls over 6ft without heels on in a busy town
rlheight5'11 said on 16/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Hands in pockets is more my style nowadays and my job is within walking distance anyway so it does not bother me much. Unless walking home with shopping but gloves were something I wore a few years ago and during my school years. Hats have always seemed too big and uncomfortable for me.
Editor Rob
If it's bitterly cold and I'm out and about I wear my fleece pyjamas underneath my trousers, and a t-shirt, fleece top, hoodie and decent winter jacket, plus hat and gloves.
Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
I had a colleague who was 6'4 and from the point of view of a 181cm guy he looked much taller than me, sometimes I seemed to be at eye level with him but I still felt a lot of difference.
He looked to be 194cm tbh, he just told me he was over 190cm.
Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Sam83
Kinda rare for me to see women with this heel. I remember going to a party and there were a lot of women with heels that were 3-5 inches tops and so they were closer to the average male height.

In general the women I met at parties who were close to my height were wearing sneakers, usually tall women 5'7-5'8 were in heels but a maximum of 3 inches which made them very close to my height.
I should be 183 - 183.2cm in my sneakers.

However if most women wear 6.5 inch heels they will outperform most men. In high heels anyone gets tall lol.
Canson said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown: I guess whatever floats your boat
Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown
I think this strikes me as a hasty generalization and cherry picking.
Try doing some research on where you live for more reliable information.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown

Are you from UK? Im same height as you basically and I feel solid average in gen pop. If I was surrounded by 18-25 year olds I would probably feel low average tbh.
Sam83 said on 16/Dec/22
Hi all, I’m 181cm and wondered how often you guys see girls (with or without heels) who are taller than this? I’m sure heels are getting higher, such as these! Click Here

I was at a house party recently and all the girls were wearing heels (I had taken my shoes off) and a lot felt close to my height or taller, when they don’t usually feel anywhere near my height! Has anyone else had this before, when someone shorter than you suddenly come close or taller than you when in heels?!
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 16/Dec/22
Difference of :
- 1 inch = similar height
- 1.5-1.75 = a bit taller
- 2.75 = solid difference
- 3.5 = good difference
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 16/Dec/22
Alex 6'0 said on 15/Dec/22
Mask, thats debatable it depends. 4.5 usually you'll see top of their head which is towering to some. Sometimes i feel 5-6 inches is start of true towering
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I think a 6'0 guy has a eyelevel nearer to 4.6 inch, easily, not 4.5", it is more common for 5'9 guys.
6'2 guys around 11.7-8 cm
Jdubbz said on 16/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:

That's a very interesting point. I've noticed that old guys tend to have much higher shoulder levels (or rather shorter necks) for their height. I can't tell if it's because of more exacerbated forward head posture (which is common along old people) or rather actual cervical shrinkage. Or maybe a combination of the two.
Jdubbz said on 16/Dec/22
@ QM6'1.5"QM:

Exactly bro. I agree with you 100%. Physical appearance aside, just look at the difference 5" makes in terms of percentile. You go from 50th percentile (5'10) to 95th percentile (6'3). Or 95th percentile to 99.95th percentile (6'8). For every 6'3+ guy, there are 10 5'10 guys. For every 6'8+ guy, there are 100 6'3 guys. It's a crazy difference, especially when you're already far from the mean. It's basically a 2 standard deviation difference, which is gigantic.

I also think that a 5" difference looks more significant when it's between people of the same gender. A man being 5" taller than a woman doesn't look that huge because it's the standard height difference, whereas a man being 5" taller than another man is very very noticeable.
Darksol64 said on 15/Dec/22
I'm in the camp that thinks 4-5 inch difference is where it really starts to seem alot. Even 2-3 inches at times.

Towering? Maybe 5 inches isn't quite towering but it's close. 5.5 to 6 inches above average really does start to tower though, because the shorter guy be almost eye level with the bigger guy's shoulders which will make you feel short for sure. For example legit strong 6'2 guys like Jack Coleman or Alan Ritchson standing next to Rob. Hell, at almost 6'2 I feel short looking at the lower nose of a 6'4 guy.

This changes a little as the heights go up and body dimensions change; I've seen where a 6'5 guy is still easily looking over the shoulders of a 7'0 guy so it doesn't appear as towering as 7 inches between a 5'8 and 6'3 guy. As you go down it would look even more towering; like an average 5'9 guy next to a 5'2 girl.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 15/Dec/22
It's only my opinion. Ok. It sounds like 5in is nothing and nobody feels and can't read men mind... sometimes even 3/4" or 1in it's like space and earth. This is so funny. If 5in isn't that big difference then 5'3-4" tall guy is ”still average" and not that small compared to regular normal people of average height ...
I really don't like heightism, but nobody thinks like that and man like Rob, a solid 5'8" (1/8), will just towering someone of 5'3-4" tall!

Or just imagine Tom Cruise being 5in taller.
Meltdown said on 15/Dec/22
@ Canson said on 10/Dec/22

I claim my morning height barefoot which is 5ft 10. During the day I'm a strong 5ft 9.5 and by early evening I usually dip to 5ft 9.25.

Why do I claim my morning height? For starters, it's really my raw height each day so I'm not lying. Also 5'10 sounds much better than 5'9 ½ to everyone. Plus most guys my height claim 5'11, so common knowledge is skewed. All good reasons if you ask me. In sneakers I'm a solid 5ft 10 ½ afternoon height. About 5'11 in my cargo boots.
Meltdown said on 15/Dec/22
@ Sinclair said on 10/Dec/22

I must have gotten very lucky. My father was no more than 5'3 (now maybe 5'1 at age 60) and mother nearly 5'6. I was supposed to be 5'7 tops and grew to 5'10 morning height. Big difference if you ask me!

Most of my grandfathers of the 20th century were 5'3 to 5'8 peak height range, so I am the second tallest out of all of them for 4 generations and still barely avg height by today's standards.
Meltdown said on 15/Dec/22
I was just thinking I wake up 178 cm, and most of the day I'm 176.5–177 cm.

In a group of 10 men aged 20 to 55, on avg about 6 will be taller and 3 will be shorter. Or maybe sometimes 5 will be taller, 3 shorter, 1 my height. Point is I am a strong 5ft 9 ½ afternoon height and rarely if ever feel a solid avg like we're always told. And honestly I usually claim about 5'10 which is my daily morning height (5'10 ¼ on good days).

So maybe avg height is to closer 180+ cm morning/179 cm afternoon. Possibly so. I'm in So-Cal BTW.
Jdubbz said on 15/Dec/22
@Bobby

Yeah, I'm not too sure either. Of course C-mo is entitled to his opinion, but I think that kind of a height difference is extremely noticeable and getting really significant. I don't feel THAT much taller than people who are 12-13cm shorter than me, but only because I'm so used to it and because most people are even shorter.

That kind of a height difference doesn't seem so large when the average man is 23cm shorter and the average woman is 36cm shorter, but objectively speaking I still realize that it is. On the very rare occasion I'm around a guy who is 12-13cm taller than me, that difference feels absolutely huge. I'm just not used to being eye level with someone's chin. It's pretty unsettling, in all honesty.
Jdubbz said on 15/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0:

Yes I think I would tower over a solid 6 footer like you, but I definitely wouldn't dwarf you. A guy would probably have to be over 6'8 to dwarf a 6 footer. I remember a while back you posted a picture of a 6'9-10 guy next to you at the gym. I think that kind of a difference is when you really start to dwarf somebody.

I agree, a 6"+ difference is towering. A 4.5 or 5" difference is really big, but I think you can say that you tower over someone when you're clearly looking over their head. At 4.5-5", you may be eye level with their scalp, but if they have any sort of thick hair, you're not gonna be looking over. At 6" you definitely will.

One thing I noticed is that the height difference seems less significant when you're the taller one. I know I'm much taller than 6'0-2 guys, but sometimes it feels like people near my eye level are "close" to my height. On the other hand, on the rare occasion I'm around a 7 footer, I feel pretty tiny. I bet 5'6 people feel tiny around a solid 6 foot guy like you.
c-mo 176cm said on 15/Dec/22
@Bobby

i have never tried to play my height as above average ....wtf are you talking about


and i said that my 189cm friend is significantly taller than me ....i did not once claim that the difference is trivial ....can you read ? or are you just trolling ?

hallucinations should be treated my friend . or just clean your glasses and read my posts carefully
rlheight5'11 said on 15/Dec/22
@Rob
It looks like you're having fun there 😄 and your computer setup kinda looks nice and cozy.
Editor Rob
I figured out why she liked watching Youtube on the Computer...I have adblock on, and the TV has ads at which she screams at me to 'skip'.
Gian 181cm said on 15/Dec/22
Rob, considering a person close to your height, would it be an indication that an older person has lost height when they have the same shoulder level as you?
I met an older person and he looked about 5'11, I felt his cervical spine was more inclined but I'm not sure.
He looked healthy, so I'm guessing he could have been 5'11.5 at his peak.
Editor Rob
In some cases it might indicate that, as the older you get the more likely you'll find issues with kyphosis in upper spine.
Alex 6'0 said on 15/Dec/22
Jdubzz, you're example of a guy who would tower me. Solid 6 inch difference id prob come up to middle of your nose. I feel i definitely tower 5'6 guys. 2 at my job are 5'6 or slightly under. I tower them
Alex 6'0 said on 15/Dec/22
Mask, thats debatable it depends. 4.5 usually you'll see top of their head which is towering to some. Sometimes i feel 5-6 inches is start of true towering
Black Noir said on 15/Dec/22
Hey rob sorry I searched up guy Sebastian on ur page and the man has a page, but hey check out that Chris Williamson guy who has a podcast. How tf does he look 6 ft with Andrew ??

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Editor Rob
Chris might be gaining 1cm with forced 'rising on one foot' posture, but yeah he appears at least 5ft 11, which against other folk I would never have thought possible.
AK World said on 15/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,

What is the difference between "strong" and "weak" heights?
Editor Rob
I'd class myself as a strong 5ft 8, being a little bit over that mark. A weaker 5ft 8 would fall to 5ft 7.5-7.75 range, so the difference should be half inch at least between the two.
Jawilder said on 14/Dec/22
@ Progking185 do you really drop to 6’0.25 at a low? You shrink more than a full inch some days. We both wake up same height but I hardly, if ever, drop below 6’0.5.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 14/Dec/22
I feel about a 4.5 inch difference is the start of towering. I have a 6'1 range buddy and whilst he is significantly taller than me I dont feel he towers over me. 6'2 guys definitely do though.
Jdubbz said on 14/Dec/22
@John185:

"Saying "around 6'1" implies that someone could be a bit over or a bit under, not simply that they are rounding up."

In theory yes, but in my experience, it is far more common for people who use "around" to be rounding up than rounding down.
Jonus said on 14/Dec/22
I wake up a very strong 186cm in the morning, 186.6cm on good days - so just shy of 187cm. I’ve had days where I went out and walked long distances and my back even hurt, and I still ended up measuring 185cm - so part of me suspects I can reach 187 in the morning. So even as a weak 187 in the morning I’ve gotten 185 flat after such strenuous activities.

Im going to try an experiment though and try to get my MAX morning height. Maybe I can reach 187 in the morning. I need to have a day where I drink 2.5l of water for my discs. I’ll go to sleep early as well. Hopefully I can get 187 flat in the morning! I’ll update.
Bobby said on 14/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

As a 177/178 cm guy, I feel there is a noticeable difference between myself and a solid 188/189 cm guy. I have no idea why C-Mo thinks the difference between him and a 189 cm guy is so trivial when the difference is close to towering.

He's always trying to play his height as being above average but keeps talking about the ideal height. I stood next to genuine 6'4 guys, my eye level was at their neck area. That was a towering difference. I wasn't dwarfed, but the difference was significant. By C-Mo's logic, the difference is trivial.
c-mo 176cm said on 14/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

well i guess it is a question of how you define these terms

13cm is significant difference but it is not a huge difference . look at Rob with Evander Holyfield : Click Here

or with Eric Balfour who funnily enough looks similar type wise as my friend and also heightwise he is close lol : Click Here

thats the same difference i have to my friend . signficantly taller yes but not a huge amount

but i noticed something long ago . the difference between a lets say 162cm man and a 175cm man is WAY more striking and big than the difference of lets say a 177cm man and a 190cm man even if the difference in CM is the same . simply because after you hit a certain height (around 174cm or so in my experience) then the difference to taller men is not striking anymore as below that height

i know it sounds weird but that is actually true trust me
Poster said on 13/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: That sounds right or close to it. It might depend on the region since there are certain situations that account for height discrepancies. We have a "short neighborhood" here, for example. It seems like the girls average 5'3".

@Maadhin Chowdhury: That's a good rule (five inches) when it comes to men and women. Of course, it's dependent on location. Dutch women are shorter than Dutch men, but they're taller than Indonesian men, who are taller than Indonesian women. The five-inch rule applies in both countries.
Progking185 said on 13/Dec/22
@QM6'1.5 yeah a legit 6'1 guy would measure around that morning. Yeah 6'0.75 night min as generally height loss from midday to evening is like 1/8 or 1/4 inch. I wake up 6'1.25-6'1.5 but if I was a fraction taller I would consider myself a good 6'1. I'm more of a weak 6'1 and 6'0.5 night.
c-mo 176cm said on 13/Dec/22
180cm and 193cm is not a huge difference . let alone dwarfing

my best friend is around 189cm (so we are around the same difference as 180 vs 193) and he is clearly taller than me by a good amount and he is also clearly a tall guy and taller than most men . but he doesnt dwarf me nor is there a "huge" difference . and when he are barefeet or when he doesnt wear thick shoes when we are in shoes i dont even look up all that much when we talk face to face

the difference seems more striking and what you might call "huge" (and even then thats a strong word) only when we walk on an uneven ground where i am on the lower side (saw that a few times on windows as we walked) and especially when he wears his thick shoes in that situation

a 180cm man wont get "dwarfed" easily
Kvnggb said on 13/Dec/22
i've a met some 6'6 guys, i asked one to guess how tall i was, and he guessed me at 6'4 maybe from his perspective the difference isn't that much lol
John185 said on 13/Dec/22
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 13/Dec/22
@John185: I think “around 6’1” also implies a bit of a round up. Someone over 6’1 (who doesn’t claim 6’2) would probably say just over 6’1, 6’1 and change, 6’1-2, etc.


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Saying "around 6'1" implies that someone could be a bit over or a bit under, not simply that they are rounding up. The phrase "nearly 6'1" is always interpreted as being under.
"Just over 6'1" would mean up to 6'1.25, so I think the word "around" is a bit redundant in this context. It's probably better to just say 6'1.
Progking185 said on 13/Dec/22
@JDbubbz also for 1-2 inches that's generally around the same height to a lot of people. 1 inch difference can look the same sometimes, it depends, while 2 inches is a noticeable but still kind of small difference
Progking185 said on 13/Dec/22
@JDbubbz yeah 5 inches is quite significant but not really towering. 3-4 inches is very noticeable but still not too much difference(I.e 6'0 kind of holds up well next to 6'3) while 5+ inches is at or below eye level. 6-7 is kind of towering though, like an average 5'9-5'10 guy next to a standout 6'4.
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 13/Dec/22
@Italianguy

yeah, 200 cm is the start of giant or solid abnormal height
QM6'1.5"QM said on 13/Dec/22
It's only my opinion, but for me a real 6'1" guy is waking up at 187cms and going to the bed at 185-185.2cms (evening, barefoot for sure). I think height pattern like Mark Gatiss or Cristiano Ronaldo.
Perfect height of course. The best of both worlds!
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 13/Dec/22
@Poster:

I think it’s between 5’4 and 5’5, maybe slightly closer to 5’5. The average white guy is 5’10, and there is usually a bit over 5” between average male and average female height. I’d guess 5’4.5 - 5’4.75 for the average American WW.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 13/Dec/22
@John185: I think “around 6’1” also implies a bit of a round up. Someone over 6’1 (who doesn’t claim 6’2) would probably say just over 6’1, 6’1 and change, 6’1-2, etc.
rlheight5'11 said on 13/Dec/22
Editor Rob said on 2/Dec/22
This is my current computer setup: Click Here.

Unfortunately I don't get much work done when the Nipper comes by as I made a mistake last month of having Youtube on and the Nipper spotted it...now she demands we sit and watch Bounce Patrol songs instead of doing work 😄
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I didn't get around to clicking your link, the link no longer works..
Yeah they're entertained by songs like that lol.
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rlheight5'11 said on 13/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
-9? I feel bad for you 😄
Good thing you don't live in Aberdeenshire!
The weather recently has been freezing, its not too unusual for December. (I researched more into it)
Editor Rob
I was out at 7.30 this morning going shopping and couldn't believe folk without hats or gloves. Really was that cold, I had 3 layers plus thick jacket , hat and hood.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 13/Dec/22
@Poster
I think for young women, it’s somewhere between 5’4 and 5’5 probably 5’4.5 just like with young men, the average is 5’9.5. Men are 5 inches taller than women on average. I don’t live in the US but I think the average over there is probably similar to the UK. I doubt the average is higher than 5’5.
John185 said on 13/Dec/22
Progking185 said on 12/Dec/22
@Chris185 I am a similar range to you, maybe just below 6'0.5 some nights. I go with the middle at 6'0.75/185 when claiming my height, and just say I'm around 6'1 to anyone who asks. You can say anywhere 6'0.5-6'1


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The problem I have with the phrase "around 6'1" or "about 6'1" is that it doesn't seem quite as accurate to me.
"Around 6'1" could mean that you're anything from 6'0.75 - 6'1.25, whereas if you say "nearly 6'1" people might assume something approximating 6'0.75/185cm. But I agree that you can basically claim 6'0.5/6'1 or anything in between.
Progking185 said on 12/Dec/22
@Chris185 I am a similar range to you, maybe just below 6'0.5 some nights. I go with the middle at 6'0.75/185 when claiming my height, and just say I'm around 6'1 to anyone who asks. You can say anywhere 6'0.5-6'1
rlheight5'11 said on 12/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Honestly, I never used to contradict myself. When compared with before, if that makes any sense. It is probably something you have noticed, as well as other posters.

Times have been tough, I still remember taking time off before claiming furlough 2 years ago due to personal reasons. Generally, I have too many "lazy" days which could be taxing for me overtime.
Editor Rob
We all need breaks, I don't think we take enough of them.
Glacierr said on 12/Dec/22
Hi Rob, how tall would you guess the Swedish musician Bladee his fans usually say he is 6’0-6’2 but in this photo:
Click Here
Bladee is the one on the right with the blue hoodie and the guy on the left with the green hat says he is 178 and bladee is 180 I can see Bladee being around the 180 mark
Editor Rob
That is a tricky photo...I would have thought 181-2 might be arguable.
Poster said on 12/Dec/22
What's the height of the average American white woman in her twenties? I think that it's 5'5 now in many places. It might even be higher or lower in a few places. A 5'4 average seems too short in 2022.
Gian 181cm said on 12/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee 173 cm and Jdubbz 198.8cm
I have the following conjecture.
We can define what is normal height from the heights that are considered height anomalies, the minimum height to be a carrier of dwarfism would be less than 1.45m and the minimum height to be considered a carrier of gigantism is 2.30m.
Therefore, in this reasoning, any height in the range of 1.45m to 2.30m can be considered normal for a human being. Is it an absurd difference? Yes, but it seems right to me.
In this case, normal height would be in this range, which could be extremely and unusually short or extremely and unusually tall, but still normal.
In case I'm assuming something more objective, subjectively the person may have problems with height hormones and in case she has an abnormal height for her age or something like that.

@Daniel Lee 173 cm
I've worked in the health area in the administrative and documental part and I don't remember having seen this, I've seen a patient listed with 2.20m and there was no sign of danger or abnormality with height in the medical record.
rlheight5'11 said on 12/Dec/22
-15 in Scotland, I feel sorry for Rob❄️
colder than usual for December, I think.
Editor Rob
Says -9C this morning: Click Here 🥶🥶🥶
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 12/Dec/22
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee 173 cm:

Some of your categories are pretty accurate, but descriptions like “too short”, and “too tall” are highly subjective. Descriptions like “midget range ” and “end of the normal person” are unnecessary and frankly a bit dehumanizing. You could be a bit more tactful in how you describe those heights.
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If you see medical sources, the described to people over 190 cm as "anormal height or not normal height". I think it starts above 6'5.5", but i can see how short people or women see to 195 cm guys and above as "giants"
Gian 181cm said on 12/Dec/22
@Mr Mister
If 187cm is your low for the night I don't see why not claim 6'2.
Gian 181cm said on 12/Dec/22
@chris 185ish
I would go with about 6'1 with your measurements, or at least 6'0.75. In the decimal system it was just say 185cm, in the imperial system you have that choice.
There are many 6'0.5 guys here who are in the 186-184cm range, but for me they are 6'0.75/185cm, however I just respect the claim.
c-mo 176cm said on 12/Dec/22
@MrMister

i would claim 188cm if i were you
John185 said on 12/Dec/22
chris 185ish said on 11/Dec/22
morning height is 6' 1.25 and night height is 6' 0.5. what should I claim?


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I'm 6'1.5 in the morning and 6'0.75 (184.8cm) in the evening, and I just round up and claim 6'1.

You could claim 6 feet and a half an inch if you like. But given that 185cm is the average of your tallest and shortest measurements, I would claim 185cm or nearly 6'1 if I were you.
Peter 180cm said on 12/Dec/22
@Canson Most people are not 6'4 range and feel more comfortable measuring and claiming in shoes because they would always choose something extra in terms of size/height. It's dishonest and inaccurate but what can you do about it? Morning height atleast is more accurate as it is a very valid measurement. But when you're over 190 does it really matter? Definitely not.
Peter 180cm said on 12/Dec/22
@MrMister You're obviously 187cm. I would claim almost 6'2 if i were you.
MrMister said on 12/Dec/22
First thing in the morning my height is about 6'2.25. In the evening I'm 6'1.75. Sometimes I fall as low as about 187cm range. With that said how tall am I during the day? I've always claimed 6'2
chris 185ish said on 11/Dec/22
morning height is 6' 1.25 and night height is 6' 0.5. what should I claim?
rlheight5'11 said on 11/Dec/22
@Sandy Cowell
It's just as well! And yeah pets probably don't like this freezing weather. Maybe a white Christmas, same thing is said every year anyway.
Gian 181cm said on 11/Dec/22
@Jawilder
6'1 is a good guess for you, at least a weak 6'1. I think your brother can beat me depending on the time of day, I already measured 5'11 3/8 at the beginning of the night but usually 5'11 1/4 is more likely, and with the gym I can get to 5'11 1/8 .

@Jdubbz 198.8 cm
Agree, the environment is much better.
Progking184 said on 10/Dec/22
@Maahin Chowdhury young white average is measured at 178 cm, though thats morning height. I think 177-177.5 cm is more average for them from what ive seen in Canada, otherwise yeah 176-177 for all young men
chad michaels said on 10/Dec/22
@Rob, How much do you think these add?
Click Here
Editor Rob
They look a style that gives 1.5-1.6 range...the insole will sit a fraction under the highpoint of the outsole.
Kieran_s said on 10/Dec/22
At the end of the day my eye level is 161-162, what height do you think people perceive me as throughout the day?
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 10/Dec/22
Jawilder@ does your brother get guessed at 6ft sometimes?
Sinclair said on 10/Dec/22
Rob, could the fact I hardly ate throughout my childhood have stunted my growth?

I am just a bit confused. My mother peaked at 5’8”, my father at 5’11”, me at 5’10”. Based on my tall parents, I should have peaked taller (six feet according to online height calculators). It is also rare for a son at his peak to be an inch shorter than his father.
Editor Rob
You could have expected 6ft+, 5ft 10 is still within the lower range of what a Doctor might predict.
c-mo 176cm said on 10/Dec/22
@dreus23

thanks mate :) well i am a good analyzer :D hehe

and yes 171cm is not that short . can feel and look average(ish) at times even and it is definitely different than 168 and below . it is also a pretty common height



by the way @Rob


i have a question . this night i slept "only" like 6 hours . woke up at 8 something . and we have almost 21 now so almost 13 hours that i am awake . i didnt lay down at all . i was sitting mostly but also did some intense cardio at home for 17 minutes . and i went to the grocery store and came back 20 minutes ago . i measured myself at around 175.5 - 175.6 cm

is that close to my extreme low ? because some time ago in even more harsh circumstances with being awake for even longer + weight training + grocery store carrying heavy packs home i measured 175.4cm . on relaxed days my low is rather 175.7 - 175.8cm . (but i have to add i use the can method and i think i lose a tiny bit of height with it because i have to lean forwards a little so it touches my head and cant stand totally straight therefore . my guess is that i lose 2mm or so. not quite sure though) . so would you say 175.5 - 175.6 is my extreme low or close to it ? thank you
Editor Rob
That sounds like your extreme low.
Gian 181cm said on 10/Dec/22
@c-mo 176 cm
Interestingly, his height range is relatively in line with this study Click Here
Simply put: Click Here

The average was 178.4cm considering Europe, Australia, North America and East Asia, and 186cm (+1SD) and 171cm (-1SD). Just guessing, but from what I understand it didn't say what time of day the measurement was taken, so 177.5cm might be an interesting guess.

Considering the standard deviation to build an argument of what would be tall and short (considering the cited regions and 177.5cm average) we can conclude that 6'1 is the beginning of tall height (or at least 6'0.5 strong) and short for 5'7.

1 SD - 7.58cm
0.5 SD - 3.79cm
168 - 171cm - Low end short (1 SD)
173 - 174cm - Short-ish (Half SD)
177.5cm - Average height
181 - 182cm - Tall-ish (Half SD)
184.5 - 186cm - Low end tall (1 SD)

Clearly I adjusted, tall-ish would be 5'11 3/8 and I put it as 181cm and tall would be 185.1cm and I adjusted it to 6'0.75 or 6'0 5/8, the same goes for short-ish and short, and it also has my opinion, I'm not necessarily saying that this is the right model.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:

Celebheights is pretty entertaining when there is some drama going on, but overall I love how much more chill the site has become now that many of the trolls and instigators have been banned.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Tajaun:

It seems like the average SD for male height varies wildly depending on the source. I’ve seen anything from 2.5 - 3.0, even for the same country. I’m not sure what to believe at this point.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee 173 cm:

Some of your categories are pretty accurate, but descriptions like “too short”, and “too tall” are highly subjective. Descriptions like “midget range ” and “end of the normal person” are unnecessary and frankly a bit dehumanizing. You could be a bit more tactful in how you describe those heights.
Canson said on 10/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: lol the problem is we are in the minority. Most people would knowingly use their shoe height or even round from 1/4” to the next full inch which is reaching and it’s ridiculous just to make themselves talller. And I’m sure the morning/evening argument would become an excuse at one point or another as I’ve heard a couple people outside CH say before that you’re true height is in the morning. I don’t agree with that for a couple reasons.

1. If I told my bosses I could only work in the morning, instead of the full 8 hours or even more being an executive where I work, would I still have a job? Probably not

2. Doctors would require someone to sleep in a bed in a hospital and measure you first thing if it were

3. Morning height isn’t verifiable except if everyone else claimed it. but afternoon is or midpoint etc

4. Height is vertical not horizontal. Morning height comes from laying down whereas your lunchtime or afternoon comes from standing and being on your feet

5. Your afternoon/evening is a longer period of the day. If 7-8 hours onward that’s almost the entire day if 16 hours.

That said I claim my afternoon as well. But I know that Bobby3342 has said it before that we are 6’4 and change guys (closer to 4 than 5 however) that get guessed 6’6 because we are in sneaks at times that add 1.5” especially with an orthotic in my case. But that’s because people claim their shoe heights freely and I even see nurses insist you don’t take your shoes off and worst of all a form for a medical provider I saw online said height in shoes? That’s the most ludicrous of them all and I say that because your height in shoes doesn’t take into account your true body fat measurements and shoes aren’t part of your body.

But I have had several appointments where the nurse either told me they can estimate the height that I am based on shoe thickness or not to take my shoes off. I didn’t oblige and I even asked how she will estimate it? She said she can and I told her that you don’t know how thick the shoe actually is and I do wear an orthotic. I took them off however and put it to rest. And she learned because I wasn’t as tall as she thought I was. I told her that the practice of shoe measurements is lazy. Then my wife was measured in hers and she wound up being penciled in as 5’9” somehow one time when she’s a weak 5’8”. Shes near 5’7 3/4 and we’ve gotten 5’7 5/8 before once although she doesn’t measure often maybe once a year or every couple. But most of her Medicals are 5’8” and she claims almost or about 5’8” or a bit under 5’8 usually. And I claim 6’4 and list myself on my license at 6’4” and my medicals say 6’4 for the most part (one or two have 6’5 because I was 6’4 5/8 once early in the day and 6’4 1/2” maybe once or they didn’t measure me and used the previous one). I didn’t used to get measured every time but now I do and I make sure I do it around the same time of the day I would claim my height to validate it and it’s within the same realm almost consistently
Canson said on 10/Dec/22
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 9/Dec/22
@Jawilder:

The 70 year old probably hasn't measured himself in a while. He might not have realized that he shrunk, so he's still thinking that he's the same height he was 10 or 20 years ago. He was probably 6'1-2 in his prime. That could be why he thinks you're taller than you really are.


@Jdubbz and Jawilder: that may have been the case with this guy who guessed me 6’6” along with the fact he claims his listed height in baseball more likely than not. He’s prob 5’10 today and maybe in his prime was 5’10 1/2 or 11. I knew someone else who did that recently to my 6’5 friend where he said he had to be 6’7” when he’s a very strong 6’5 guy (6’5 and change and exactly an inch taller than me). In his case, however, he doesn’t claim the 1/4” he just claims 6’5 which is consistent with how it was 15 years ago or so when I first met him. The other guy was around 6’0 but claimed 6’2”
adrianposter said on 10/Dec/22
@Antoine I noticed that most kids in my high school stagnated in growth around sophomore-junior year, that’s why I’m not too sure about boys stopping growing at 18.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Jonus: Oops, I meant it starts at 6’0.5 for a 5’9.5 average, not 5’9.
dreus23 said on 10/Dec/22
@c-mo 176 cm

I think this might be the best height chart I've seen so far. I also think you described my experience as someone around 171 pretty accurately. I'm not taller than all women, but definitely most. A typical situation in a crowded room in my school, there's maybe one or two guys shorter than me, but typically most guys are at least a tid bit taller than me. It's not exactly rare that I'm the shortest guy in the room, but it's typically not that noticeable. I also reached the conclusion of solid average being anywhere from 178-179, it's pretty amazing how much we agree on! I would put 165-168 and 169-172 in separate categories though, there's defo a difference there
Sepanta said on 10/Dec/22
Hi Rob, when will you add Matt and Jeff Hardy?
It's been really long
Tajaun said on 10/Dec/22
@Jdubbz I've seen SD's for countries as low as 6.2 cm (a bit less than 2.5 inches). In Scandinavia for example,the SD is quite low.
Gian 181cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Leesheff85
That's good to hear. I've seen some people say that in CH there are a lot of people insecure about their height when in fact I would say that it's a minority, we only discuss height, and when someone tries to cyber-bully they're soon banned.
Wishing you were tall or 2 inches taller doesn't mean hating your current height.
Gian 181cm said on 10/Dec/22
@Jdubbz 198.8 cm
No problem, my name is Italian haha
I'd say I feel tall compared to the general population, estimates say 5'8.25 - 5'8.5, so I'd say I'm at least in the tall and tall-ish crossover.
Now with people my age I would say tall-ish and sometimes above average, 181cm definitely doesn't stand out, I feel like I would need 185cm+ to start feeling far from average.
The tendency of young people is to get even taller, I think it will take a few years to reach 5'10 for young people here where I live.

@Progking185
It is a tall height, 184.5-185cm I consider it as the beginning of the height when the average is 5'10, I remember he measured 6'1 but he was in thin slide shoes during the night. Here the average is about 5'8.5 and he stands out, it's the equivalent of 6'2 in Canada and some US states.
Jawilder said on 9/Dec/22
@Gian I would say half my guesses are 6’1. The other half 6’0 and 6’2. You are my brothers height. He is 5’11 3/8 at a low. I’m 6’0 5/8 low
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 9/Dec/22
@Jawilder:

The 70 year old probably hasn't measured himself in a while. He might not have realized that he shrunk, so he's still thinking that he's the same height he was 10 or 20 years ago. He was probably 6'1-2 in his prime. That could be why he thinks you're taller than you really are.
Moneymaker! said on 9/Dec/22
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

5'5"-5'7" is short

5'8 below average

5'9"-5'10" average

5'11" above average

6'-6'2" tall

6'3" borderline very tall

6'4" very tall
Leesheff85 said on 9/Dec/22
Who gets to say what's "too short or too tall for people" I'm a five foot six man in his late 30s and it's never been an issue not in my 37 years and now I embrace it. I'll admit that's not always been the case and I used to hate it but this site in the most parts has really got me to see we are all different shapes and sizes and should love our differences not resent them even if I did only realise that on my 30s
Peter 180cm said on 9/Dec/22
@ winkler189cm Don't obsess about it too much.Most guys your height round up to 1.90 anyway and get away with it really easily. I would probably choose 188 or 189 with your stats.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 9/Dec/22
@Jonus:

The SD for men is quite a bit larger than 2.5". Looking at a few height calculators and various countries, it ranges from 2.92" to 2.95" for guys. That would mean tall technically starts around 6'0.5" for a country with a 5'9 average.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 9/Dec/22
Jdubbz 198.8cm

I feel in the UK average guy is my height and average girl is about 5'4.5 so I feel there's a five inch difference. Plus I looked on tall.life and it says 5'10 is 97.9th percentile and 6'3 is 97.5th. so it's very close.
Progking185 said on 9/Dec/22
@Gian181 yeah I'm that height as well and usually feel quite tall, especially lately in some boots I appear more 6'1+. My 185 claim is about my afternoon height, low maybe 183.5-184 on active days but idk. 1.25 inches isn't much though you should feel tallish
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 9/Dec/22
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5:

That's interesting, for me it's the opposite. Also, I thought 5'10 girls were equivalent to 6'4 guys? I could be wrong though.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 9/Dec/22
@Gian 181:

Ohh I see, my mistake bro. Because of your name I assumed you lived in Italy. I can definitely see the average for young Brazilians getting close to 5'9. It seems like younger generations in general are getting taller. Do you feel tallish at 181cm in your state?
Gian 181cm said on 9/Dec/22
@Jawilder
What guesses do you usually have?
As I recall you are a weak 6'1/strong 6'0.5 you are my friend's height he is 6'0.75 at noon but he claims 6'0.5 he it is quite honest with the height. He always stands 1.25 inches taller than me, I would say here he is solidly tall.
Antoine said on 9/Dec/22
Rob, my nephew has been 176cm for about 1 year. He is almost 15 years old. He does not appear to have gained height in over a year. Will it continue to grow or has it reached its maximum height?
Editor Rob
There can be periods in which growth is dormant, but a year is pretty long.
Whilst you'd expect some more growth, there is a smaller proportion who are finished by 15. The vast majority still put on more height though.
Gian 181cm said on 9/Dec/22
@Jdubbz 198.8cm
Ah yes, that's what I thought and I agree, 190-192cm is much more common than 195cm - 197cm, and 200cm+ is definitely rare.
I remember seeing guys 6'4-6'5 on college campus but 6'6 I remember seeing at a bar with some friends.
I'm Brazilian of Portuguese and Italian descent xD, the average here in my state is officially 174cm, in 2008 the average height of young people was 174.2cm and today I imagine it's 175cm. I saw that some American states can have averages of 5'10.5 and Minnesota was one of them, California was a state with relatively low averages. Here the tendency is for the states further south to be taller in stature, but in general it ranges from 5'6 to 5'9.25 and with averages of 5'8.
And yes you are a young guy lol I am under 25 currently.

@Jonus
If the average is 5'9.5 then 5'11.5 is tall-ish and 6'0 is tall?
Harold Green said on 9/Dec/22
Whoops from my previous comment, I was meant to say 4 inches not 6 inches lol
c-mo 176cm said on 9/Dec/22
i calculated average heights of european countries in the past and the result was something between 178 and 179cm like 178.6 or something . i think it was without older men in it .

if we would go by evening height i think something like 177.5 or maybe 178cm is the average height for a young guy in europe

imo 177.5cm is a good figure for it


and based on that PLUS what i personally with my experience / eyes looking at people i would say heights are like this :


165cm and below or 164cm and below somewhere around there you are noticably short for a man . you will almost always be the shortest or one of the shortest guys in a group . most people will instantly think about your height being short when they meet you . you might get short jokes from people especially buddies or toxic women and you are shorter than most men (97% ?) . i would say that somewhere around 158 - 159 "extremely short" starts

166 - 171cm = imo this is the standard short man range . the typical short dudes you see in a fairly common amount daily anywhere . however 170cm and especially 171cm you could rather call "shortish" ...because it is not THAT much below average and with good posture / proportions / thick sneakers etc. a 5'7 guy can look somewhat averagish and he will also be taller than around 50-60% of women

172 - 174 cm = these heights are the buffer zone between short and medium imo . below average but not really "short" yet . 174cm could arguably be also labeled as weak average

175 - 180 cm = medium range . the bottom of it might feel / look slightly shortish at times and the top will look / feel a little tallish sometimes

181 - 183 cm (maybe 184cm too) = these heights are the buffer zone between medium and tall imo . above average but not enough to be "tall" yet . 183cm (especially 184cm) could arguably be also labeled as weak tall

185cm - 190cm = typcial tall range . typical tall dude you see in a fairly common amount on a daily basis anywhere

191 - 193 = buffer zone again

194 - 199 = very tall

200+ is huge
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 9/Dec/22
I swear i see more 5'10 girls than I do 6'3 guys even though statistically they should be very similar.
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 8/Dec/22
In my experience, the average young male height is 5'9.5"

So, for the young generation:

160 cm - 162 cm start of the "normal person"
163 cm - 164 cm too short
165 cm - 166 cm strong short
167 cm - 169 cm short
170 cm (5'7 flat) - 171 cm below average (not average or short)
172 cm - 173 cm weak average
174 cm - 179 cm solid average
180 cm - 181 cm weak average
182 cm - 183 cm above average (not average or tall)
184 cm - 186 cm tall
187 cm - 189 cm outstanding tall
189 cm - 192 cm very tall
193 cm - 194 cm too tall
195 cm - 197 cm end of the "normal person"
198 cm - 199 cm semigiant

i think the giant range starts at 200 cm, the midget range ends below 160 cm
Personally i see a good amount of women paying attention to guys below 193 cm or at least 170 cm
A smaller amount of them have a strong preference for 180 to 188 cm guys.
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 8/Dec/22
Also, Israel Broussard (Happy Death Day) and Casper Ruud (2 grand slam finals appearances) deserve pages...
Harold Green said on 8/Dec/22
Hi Rob,

I just would like your amazing height insight on this famous American Hip Hop Producer name DJ Clark Kent who I believe looks around 6’2-6’3. When standing next to Joe La Puma( who is aComplex Host and looks to be around 5’10) does look taller than Joe by at least 6 inches. He does however look like he is a bit taller than Jay-Z (not sure by how much) and there are some pics of him with Kanye West and wale as well. I would like to hear your insight on if he does look at least 6’2 or closer to 6’2.

With Joe La Puma:
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With Wale:
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With Kanye West:
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With Jay-Z:
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Editor Rob
Looking at a few more photos on his instagram, yeah I can see the idea he's somewhere in 6ft 2-3 zone, also held up well beside Michael K Williams
Jonus said on 8/Dec/22
I've googled the average height of a man and I get 5'9 and 5'10. So logically I just go with the average between the two and go with 5'9.5 as the height of the average man - So if you are a solid 6'0.5 at a low, you are strong tall because it's a solid 3 inches taller than the average man.

If you are 6'0 flat then you are also tall because it is one standard deviation (2.5inches) taller than the average man. You have to be a whole SD taller than the average man to be in the tall club.

5'9 175cm - average - can feel a little below average at times
5'10 178cm - strong average - will rarely ever feel short
5'11 180cm - above average - can feel tallish at times
6'0 183cm - tall - knows what it feels like to be tall
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 8/Dec/22
Hey Rob, a few height suggestions below:

- Noir actor Paul Douglas (listed 5ft 11, starred alongside Widmark in a classic)
- Gerardo Celasco
- Daniel Zovatto (mentioned before but definitely deserves a page)
- JJ Feild (the Peripheral)
- Nicholas Hamilton
- Adam DiMarco
Jawilder said on 8/Dec/22
@Canson “maybe I’m not 6 feet then” 🤣🤣🤣. I’ve actually had quiet a few height related encounters recently. This 70 year old guy I play tennis with is my height, or within a fraction. Another guy who we play with, in his 30s, is 6’3 and randomly said “you are 6 feet right?” I said yup. The 70 year old said no way that I’m only 6 feet, I have to be at least 6’2. I said well I’m actually 6’0-6’1. He still didn’t believe me. Next time we play he legit brings a measuring tape and measures me 🤣. Swear to god. He got me at 6’2 in shoes. I was prob 6’0.75 barefoot.

Another two guys I play tennis with are 5’9 and 5’10.5. Both claim that height and would measure it, very honest. They both guessed me at 6 feet when I’m clearly at least 2 inches taller than the 5’10.5 guy. I’ve been getting a lot of 6 feet guesses recently which shouldn’t be strange but sort of is for me. Alex can attest I’m a weak 6’1. I’m a solid fraction over 6’1 in the morning.
Peter 180cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Bobby I remember back when i was 15 i was measured 180 with shoes at a doctor's office for a physical. I was probably 178-178.5 back then but still claimed the 180. Noone called me out so at that point 1-2cm is really not that visible.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Progking185:

Yeah that sounds about right. I assumed the average shoe height was 1", but tbh it seems like more and more people are wearing thicker footwear these days. I think I have at least a 0.25" footwear advantage over most guys, maybe between 0.25" and 0.5". I'm 6'7.75 in shoes at my low, so maybe I give off a weak 6'7 impression.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:

Ohh I'm just talking about the guys at my university. I'd estimate maybe a 5'10.25 average for guys here and a 5'5 average for girls. For the general population it's definitely nowhere near that high. For young guys in general (not just at my university), it's probably more like a strong 5'9 or weak 5'10. Yeah I'm 25, so I think I still fall into the "young guy" category, lol.

I actually agree quite a bit with your categories. Especially 6'3-6'5. The low end of that range is relatively uncommon, but I still see 190 - 192cm guys somewhat frequently. 195cm - 197cm much less often. 2 meters is legitimately rare, and anything above that, especially 203+ is really rare. I may not see a 203cm+ guy the entire semester, though I usually do.

You're Italian correct? I am not super familiar with your country, but I've heard that the average height varies quite a bit depending on the region. In the US the overall average is right around 5'9, but each state can vary quite a bit from 5'8 to 5'10+ (depending on the demographics). California vs. Minnesota for example. I guess that's what happens in any super diverse country.
winkler189cm said on 8/Dec/22
So assuming I would not know anything about height loss during the day:

If I measure 10 minutes after waking up (lying in bed thinking ''Ah yea I have to measure myself'' maybe to some authorities.) IWhile my peak ''ouf of bed height'' (190.5) always dropped I might be able to measure 6'2 3/4 (so basically 190cm) after 5-10 minutes. I take my tape measure, measure myself and wow I am 190cm. I measured 190cm.

So in this case I would really believe I am 190cm even though I am 189cm.
winkler189cm said on 8/Dec/22
What is the ''morning height'' btw? Not ''out of bed'' right?

For example to catch my maximum height I literally have to sleep 8 hours, normal hydration and I have to literally measure myself right after leaving the bed. And not walking 5 minutes to get my tape measure !

I have noticed that this ''out of bed'' peak height falls apart very quickly. So I measure 6'3 only if I really pay attention to that. It's not after 5 minutes, its after seconds ! I leave the bed, the tape measure ready and go to the next wall I see to catch this maximum height.

This ''out of bed' height then drops and It goes to 6'2 3/4 very fast ! Probably even after 5 minutes.
After 30min - 1hour or so I might be already at 6'2 5/8. It even drops to 6'2 1/2 quite fast (maybe with less speed) and 6'2 1/2 is the max I would measure at doctors office (2-3 hours after waking up). I would definitely never be taller at the doctors.

No matter what I do I always drop to 6'2 1/4 in the early afternoon assuming I wake up at 8am. (so after 5 hours). I might be at 6'2 3/8 at noon, it depends. I am such a 188.5 - 189 guy :D

Measuring 6'2 3/8 or probably even 6'2 1/2 in the afternoon/evening would only work if I have a more lazy day.
rlheight5'11 said on 8/Dec/22
@Bobby
Yeah lol. I don't like drawing attention to myself which is why I backtrack. I know it's just the Internet but even so.
Feeling cute? 👽
Progking185 said on 8/Dec/22
@Jdubbz I'm not exactly sure of common shoe height(1-1.25 inches?) But yeah you would look like a 6'6.5-6'7 guy to most. At least 6'6 for sure though lol
Gian 181cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
Would the average of 5'10 be for young people? I imagine that you are also young and under 30 years old.
I would expect 5'9 for the general population.
This is where I live, I think youngsters are about 5'9 strong, based on the university campus/parties I go to, 5'11 - 6'1 is a range I see every week with no issues, 6 '2-6'3 is starting to get more unusual and 6'3-6'5 very unusual (mostly 6'5), 6'6-6'7 is definitely rare.
But it's my opinion, I'm probably committing a confirmation bias 😅
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Canson:

That's a very good point about the half inch claim being used for different reasons now than it was back in the day. I think another reason why people use it is to make a round up/inflation sound more legitimate than it really is. Going back to your example, if a guy says he's 5'11.5, people will probably think he's honest. After all, the guy is "humble" enough to not claim 6'0 right? If he claims the half inch then surely he must have measured it! Lol.

As you said, in reality he may be sub 5'11. An actual 5'11.5 guy would be AT LEAST 181cm in the evening and would probably claim 6'0 at that point. Of course like you mentioned, claiming a half inch when you're way taller than 6'0 will get you some questions. Either "why not round up", or "why bother", which is honestly a fair point for guys like us.

After a certain height, being super specific about a claim IRL is kinda weird. Like a humblebrag of sorts. It makes more sense and is probably viewed as more acceptable for short and average guys than for very tall guys.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0:

Ya pretty much. Typically I see someone taller once every ~ 3 weeks, but it has been a while now. I haven't seen anyone taller than me since October, and I'm studying at a large university on the East Coast. There are lots of 6'3-4 guys who seem similar to my height from a distance but I can tell are noticeably shorter when I get closer.

I occasionally see 6'4-5 guys and once in a while 6'5-6, but much less frequently than 6'3-4. 6'0-2 is pretty common. Average height for a guy here is probably a strong 5'10 if I had to guess.

To be fair though, I do wear thick sneakers + orthotics for arch support (gives 1.5" total), so I think I'm more similar to a barefoot 6'7 or 6'6.75 guy than a 6'6 or 6'6.25 guy when in public. That might make a difference.

If I were an inch taller, I could probably go 2-3 months without seeing someone taller. Legit 6'7-8 and up gets really rare.
Alex 6'0 said on 8/Dec/22
Jdubzz, someone like you solid 6'6 range guy you must go weeks without seeing someone taller? As 6'4-6'5 is very tall the % drops pretty noticeably 6'6-6'7 range
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 8/Dec/22
@Rockaway:

Lol yeah, that's true. That's actually why I love being my height. I can't imagine NOT standing out in a crowd or blending in with other people. That would be super weird for me. I view my height as just another trait that makes me unique. Wouldn't trade it for anything, even if the "regular" tall heights are more convenient.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 8/Dec/22
@Antoine

You are only 180cms for a small part of the day. I think claiming 179cm or 5'10.5 is fair.
Antoine said on 8/Dec/22
Hello, I am 180.5cm out of bed and I am few mms under 179cm in the night. Do you think I can claim about 180cm? Is it fair?
Canson said on 7/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: my issue with the half is that it’s not used properly in the states these days whereas years back it was. Years back, people used it to distinguish or maybe to make themselves sound more impressive. Now a days it’s usually an excuse to round. “I’m 5’11 1/2” when the person may be 5’10 3/4” or barely hitting 5’11 later in the day. I know Older individuals and older relatives that claimed the half still listed themselves at the lower number on paper on occasion instead of the higher one (rounding up). Now a days, if you tell someone you’re 6’6 1/2 or I say I’m 6’4 1/2”, you’ll get 6’6 from a small percentage, 6’7” from a much much larger percentage, and get asked why you don’t claim 6’7 from another somewhat large percentage or why you bother claiming the half from a smaller percentage. The older generation where the half worked is dying out. Group that with the practice of doctors and nurses measuring people in shoes and people getting physicals and blood work done at the same time in some cases where fasting is encouraged, you may get someone who is your size claiming 6’8 with their shoes on and the other larger proportion 6’7”. Don’t forget that athletes get listed in shoes almost exclusively now as opposed to many years ago it was maybe a roundup or hit or miss.

It’s just all screwed up now. But I still claim 6’4” and just prepare for the argument if necessary. Funny thing is about two weeks ago, I was approached by someone probably in his 60s or even 70s who made a joke (very cordial and harmless) about height and he asked me how tall I was and I said 6’4”. His response “no you have to be at least 6’6, I’m 6’0”. I looked at him and said “no offense but you’re about 5’10” which is what he was. A buddy of ours is 6’0” and is noticeably taller than this guy. If anything, if I stand next to him, I may look closer to 6’5 if I have a footwear advantage but he’s had his Jordan’s on and I may look 6’4 1/2” when I have the orthotics in. Back to this guy, I told him 6’4 1/4” to the T and that I’m in a Timberland that adds at least 1.5” because I wear an orthotic. He then told me that he was a baseball player years back and that he was listed 6’0” when he played baseball 40 some years ago. I told him that he’s clearly not that now and that I was listed 6’6 in college when I played basketball but I know that I’m not. Funniest part was when my 6’6” buddy walked in and he asked him how tall he was and he said 6’6”. He said “maybe I’m not 6’0” then”.
Progking185 said on 7/Dec/22
@Qm6'1.5 yeah I'm more like 184 night as I wake up 186 range, though I just go with afternoon at around 185. On active days I find sometimes in the afternoon I've lost about 2 cm and I'm down to 184/6'0.5. But claiming the middle of your range is ok.
Peter 180cm said on 7/Dec/22
@ QM6'1.5QM Yeah that is the most accurate way to see at your height. In that case you could say im really 179.5cm but prefer 180 than 179 because who wouldn't round up with my measurements? xD
Emil said on 7/Dec/22
@Jibin

There's must be a massive slope in your floor/wall, if facing the wall gives you 3 cm more.

There shouldn't be any difference except a couple mm, since it's easier to measure your own height facing the wall
Bobby said on 7/Dec/22
@rlheight5'11

Considering that you broadcasted it here, I think everyone who visited the forum will know.

In other news, I'm feeling cute, so I might play some games later, I dunno.
Bobby said on 7/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm

My peak out-of-bed height is 179.1 cm. I have verified this on two occasions where I was lucky to get my height recorded as fast as possible. I claim 178 cm as my height. I think that's being very honest and reasonable, given I am 180-181 cm in shoes during the day.
rlheight5'11 said on 7/Dec/22
I used to watch England games during big football tournaments. I used to watch England friendlys years ago.
rlheight5'11 said on 7/Dec/22
@AB-177CM
Does it have anything to do with you being kurdish? Not that there's anything wrong that, sorry for the personal question. And yeah maybe the region isn't safe for football fans etc.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 7/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 6/Dec/22

I've always claim my evening height, because never wanted to be taller.
We all know that you has ~2cms in the morning, but my rule is a -2cm (morning)= your height/claim (evening).
In my case, it's legit 187cms tall!
AK World said on 6/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,

What is the average head length for a 6'4" guy?
Editor Rob
Closer to 10 inches at that range.
Rockaway said on 6/Dec/22
Tbh the more I think about it, as a solid 6’ at a low, I don’t think I’d ever want to be taller than 6’3”. Maybe even 6’2”. Your entire life would change… can’t really blend in anywhere. I think 6’2” is obviously solid tall but still can blend in a little.
Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 6/Dec/22
@Public Enemy:

Fair enough, but I'd have have to disagree. Within the ideal range, I think taller is better for a guy.
Crypto139 said on 6/Dec/22
Just measured my height today for the first time in ages. Woke up a little after 10AM, but just spent the sitting down on a bed hunched over my computer while getting up and walking around a tiny bit but nothing too crazy. At 3PM I measured in at 172.3cm. Not quite a full 5'8" even just 4 hours out of bed. Although, I noticed a lot of people irl that are my height like to claim 5 foot 9, although some will say 5 foot 8.
7272 said on 6/Dec/22
@MD

Wonho looks like a 5’8 guy.
Public Enemy said on 6/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
I don’t really see any palpable difference between a 6’0 and 6’2 guy with equal proportions from a physical desirability perspective. Other differentiating factors will come into play such as personality, looks etc
Gian 181cm said on 6/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
Exact,and strength and size are patterns found in many species when studying alphas and hierarchy. I would say that intelligence is an important trait as well.
Jibin said on 6/Dec/22
Rob I am 187 when I am facing the wall and I am 184 when my back against the wall..what height should I claim?
Editor Rob
I'd find another wall and redo the measurement, as 3cm seems too big a difference.

Maybe with your back against the wall you're unable to stand as tall, or maybe the can/object is slipping when measuring?
rlheight5'11 said on 6/Dec/22
I like this one plus people know me by this name better. Some prob didn't know I changed it.
Hght181 said on 6/Dec/22
Might change my username back to rlheight. Idk, thinking about it.
Hght181 said on 6/Dec/22
@Rob
That's ok, I was just wondering 👍
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Dec/22
@ Hght181 - I see my usual two, who never stray far from the house. I open the door and they descend upon me!
🦊😂🦊

Yes, it’s freezing now, which means that the cats conglomerate in the warmest rooms, and they all try to sit on my lap. Who knows - maybe we are in for a white Christmas this year…..? ☃️❄️🎄😉
Peter 180cm said on 6/Dec/22
Honestly if you claim a height you can measure half an hour after waking up(out of bed ofcourse)you're not really exaggerating. You will be roughly 1-1.5cm shorter for the majority of the day and we all know 1cm can easily be covered with different shoes and posture.
Jdubbz said on 6/Dec/22
Gian 181cm:

Yes I agree. Speaking literally, the alpha males of a wolf pack are almost always the biggest. As you said, the concept of alpha and beta males doesn't really apply to humans, but logically an "alpha male" human would be physically much larger than average. Both in height and overall frame. Of course there are other factors to consider, as you mentioned. 6'3+ fits the bill nicely, assuming proportionate frame, muscle mass, etc.

Of course, that's much different than the ideal male height. 6'0-1 fits into that category for sure, though I'm not sure if it's the most ideal male height. In my experience, 6'2-3 was just as comfortable and didn't really have any more downsides. It's also a noticeably more imposing height.
Caleb 178.7cm said on 5/Dec/22
Click Here

How tall would you guys say this lady is by watching her Tiktok videos??🤔
Editor Rob
Saw a clip of her under the door and she was doing the Flamingo on one foot...

But in a clip in which she held a tape beside her, 5ft 8 appeared near end of her chin, so maybe she is in 6ft 5-6 zone if measured properly.

Actually in the sideways vans clip beside tape, I do think she might be actually quite close to her claim!
MD said on 5/Dec/22
How tall is Korean singer Wonho, really?
Public Enemy said on 5/Dec/22
I agree with Alex on this one. A legit 6’0-6’1 at a low with decent proportions is desirable and tall.
Progking185 said on 5/Dec/22
@Rick84 yeah 6'2.5-6'3 is a great tall height but nowhere near giant. I think it's a big but still regular tall height. Around over 6'4 is where your getting more rare in public, though 6'4 generally is very tall
Hght181 said on 5/Dec/22
@Sandy Cowell
chilly weather recently, where I am 🌧️
feels chilly enough to snow🦊 or something. Seen any foxes coming out to play?
c-mo 176cm said on 5/Dec/22
height doesnt make you alpha . lmao
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@Canson:

Yeah, I guess it depends on the type of shoes you wear. My shoes + orthotics give me 1.5", so even at an extreme low, my shoe height would be way taller than my barefoot out of bed height. Even at my low I'm 6'7.75 in those shoes. Hell, I'm doorframe height for a good chunk of the day. I could easily get away with a 6'7 claim in those shoes, but why bother? Deep down I'd know it's a lie.

I think our height loss pattern may be identical at this point. These days I only lose 3/4", so I wake up at 6'7 and drop to 6'6.25 at my low. I can't remember the last time I hit 6'6 flat, so it's safe to say that's my extreme low. As far as claiming 6'4 rather than 6'4.5, I agree completely and do the same thing at my height. On average we're closer to 6'6 and 6'4 than 6'7 and 6'5 throughout the day while a half inch claim would imply we're directly between those two heights. Things would be different in a country that uses the metric system (where 194cm and 199cm make much more sense than 193cm and 198cm), but not in the US.
Gian 181cm said on 5/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
It could be, but I didn't see anything to indicate it wasn't and so I took it as literal speech.
If the idea is to have dominant height then I'd say 6'3+ guys would go with this rank (as long as they're not too skinny and have a withdrawn body language).
A 5'11 guy who knows how to fight or was ex-military would intimidate me much more than a normal 6'2 guy.
If the idea is to talk about desired height and seen as ideal by women then it makes sense to put 6'0-6'1 (at least for the USA), for the rest of the world I would add the range 180cm to 193cm.

@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
I forgot to add in my previous comment, but in my opinion you can imagine an "alpha person" with plenty of resources, such as money (which basically buys food, comfort and security) and social prestige.
So yes Kevin Hart in this vision would be an alpha, as would Chris Hemsworth.
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@Progking185:

Honestly man, I think a 5 hour measurement is the best possible claim. It truly reflects your average height throughout the day (considering that daily height loss is basically exponential decay, so you're closer to your low than your morning height on average). It's a nice middle ground between morning height and your low.

I used to be firmly in the "evening height is your true height" camp, but I've changed my mind on that. In your case, I think even 6'1 would be a fair claim. I personally round down my low (so technically I'm claiming an extreme low), but that's just because I'm closer to 6'6 than 6'7 for most of the day. I'm also obviously not that desperate for additional height at this point, lol.
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm:

You misunderstand...I'm not referring to 1-2 hour out of bed height in my comment, but rather peak morning height. The height you'd measure as soon as you get out of bed. No one will see you at that height (aside from a significant other). The height you're referring to is of course legitimate and not dishonest at all. That's similar to what you'd measure at the doctors.

I have no issue with anyone claiming morning height. Still, that's very different than peak out of bed height. I think claiming out of bed height is where you start getting into "overly optimistic" territory. Of course, many people who aren't height aware might still be indirectly claiming peak out of bed height. For example, if they're measured at 6'3.5 at a 9:30 am doctor's appointment then round up to 6'4. I actually did that exact thing many years ago before learning about height loss. Very cringe, lol.
Jdubbz said on 5/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:

I don't think he meant it literally, but more so as a way to describe the most dominant male height. I agree that such a thing doesn't really exist, but even if it did, it wouldn't be 6'0/6'1. I think that's too close to average to be the most "alpha" height.
Rick84q said on 5/Dec/22
@Daniel Leee 173cm i dont understand why are you saying 6'2.5 and 6'3 are put of the very good height range? 6'3 is a desire height by almost all men is not like is a giant , is just tall height and attractive one.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/Dec/22
Alpha Male is much more to do with money/status than being tall.
AB-177CM said on 5/Dec/22
@Hght181
I meant, why do you want to be sure? Btw, Don't take that the wrong way.
There are some controversies about this Qatar world Cup but I don't care. I have only seen the first few matches, and haven't watched a match ever since.
-
My response to your message, Hght181.
I am not supportive of the World Cup taking place in Qatar for personal reasons. I don’t wish to get into my feelings and thoughts since others have mixed opinions too. But I haven’t really watched any match too, and I am aware of the controversies, and I know how many feel, since Qatar fund terrorism and corruption. Many terrorist leaders are hiding in Qatar, and Qatar fund many globally terrorist organisations.

That’s just the basic controversies.
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 5/Dec/22
6'0-6'1 guys often compare their height to 6'2 guys
Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 5/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0

i don't think so. The Alpha Male height is 6'2, you still look very good and taller than 6'0-6'1 guys.
At 6'2.5"6'3" you are out of the "very good height" range
Canson said on 4/Dec/22
Jdubbz said on 3/Dec/22
@winkler189cm:

It depends how you look at it. Yes morning height is our maximum possible height, but only because we mitigate the effects of gravity on our spine for ~8 hours. You start losing height extremely quickly as soon as you get up, so it's not something you can maintain. It's not a flat out lie I guess, but it's a bit dishonest since basically no one will see you at that height.

I personally prefer low/evening height, but I think a few hours out of bed is fine too. Straight out of bed morning height is similar to a shoe claim to me (though perhaps not quite as bad).

@Jdubbz: i agree with your logic 100%. But in my case, I think claiming the out of bed height for most is the same as claiming a shoe height. It’s more honest because you can measure it but If say you dipped to 6’6 flat instead of 6’6.25 and said you were 6’7 flat it’s the same imho. I also feel that if we are talking about height, it’s measured standing up. It’s vertical. The height out of bed is a product of having laid down for several hours whereas the afternoon/evening is a product of having been up on your feet for several hours and represents more your true height. While I don’t believe in the morning height (first thing) I also don’t believe as much in the extreme low although that is at least closer to your normal walking height than the out of bed is. But you and I are probably in the same boat. Your extreme low is probably the same as mine 2” taller as you’re probably a solid 6’6” whereas I’m 6’4” flat at my extreme low. But I do round down to 6’4” more often than not as opposed to a 6’4 1/2” claim since I’m smack dab in the middle at 6’4 1/4”.
Darksol64 said on 4/Dec/22
@ Jdubbz

I have a leg-length discrepancy of near 1.25 inches which I asked Rob about; asked him if I looked like I had a frame closer to a 6'1 guy or 6'2 guy. He said I looked 6'2-6'3 in that picture and also said the camera being low to the ground made me look a little taller with a smaller head. I didn't do that on purpose, It's just a decent picture I had on hand.

I do seem to have pretty even proportions like Rob which likely makes me look bigger. Actually my legs are probably slightly short for my height; I look best when I wear my 2 inch running shoes to compensate. I have 1 inch yard-work shoes in the pic, not barefoot.

I don't typically get height comments in person or many guesses, though I don't get out too much. As Leighton stated I did get a 6'6 guess one time, but let's just say that guy's a huge jokester and not too bright, I don't count it as a legitimate guess. I told him if he saw a actual 6'6 guy next to me he would be amazed.
Hght181 said on 4/Dec/22
I measure 180.8 at night which puts me in the 180-1 range. I'm good at that height. I wouldn't desire to be taller nor shorter. Women are short, I tend to look at height from a dating pov.
Hght181 said on 4/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
My comments sometimes do not appear.
Usually I see others comments before mine.. We're on good terms, I think? 👍
Editor Rob
There's no issue, though the other day 24 hour period of comments got lost.
Jdubbz said on 4/Dec/22
@Canson:

Exactly. Get out of bed, take a shower, eat some breakfast, and drive to work. Your morning height is pretty much gone lol. Another thing about out of bed morning height is that the only other person who will see you at that height is also at his/her peak height.

You won't seem any taller from his/her perspective. If that person isn't height aware, they're probably going by the height they measured at the doctor's (which is most likely late morning/early afternoon).
Progking185 said on 4/Dec/22
@Jdubbz yeah I measure usually about 5 hours out of bed. I go with about 185/6'0 75 as I measure that most afternoons, otherwise more like 6'0.5 on active days. Any height you measure is ok to claim but most people would see you at the height around 3-6 hours I think
Jdubbz said on 4/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0:

Hmm...while 6'0-1 is a desirable height for men, I wouldn't call it the "alpha male height". I don't think there is such a thing as alpha male height (has more to do with overall appearance/proportions), but if there were, it would be taller than that. More like 6'2-4, which seems to be an equally desirable height range that is also more imposing than 6'0-1. Just my opinion of course.
Gian 181cm said on 4/Dec/22
Alpha and beta are not scientifically valid when applied to human beings, it is possible to draw some parallels, so I don't see the sense in 'alpha male height'.
A parallel that can be drawn in my opinion is that anyone, male or female, who has abundant access to resources (money, food, safety, comfort) can fit as an "alpha", regardless of height, appearance and gender. This is a private opinion, i.e. not supported by evidence or anything like that.

Of course, when we observe them in nature, alphas tend to be bigger, more aggressive and with greater access to resources than other animals of the same species, but when we talk about humans it is more complex.
c-mo 176cm said on 4/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

i disagree . people DO see you at your morning height . just not first thing height . lets say have school or uni or work at 9 . lets say you wake up at 7:30 . take your shower , eat something and prepare a sandwhich and water for your break , brush your teeth , put on clothes and leave 8:20 your house and are 8:40 already in the city to wait for the bus and are among people etc. . you are basically full inside of everyday dynamics already 1-2 hours out of bed

in my case i would be around 177cm at that time and i dont think it would be a lie to claim 177cm therefore . (my first thing out of bed height is about 178.3cm or so but i lose that quickly)

i claim 177cm often . especially to chicks :D lol . or 176-177 (when dudes ask mostly)

i think claiming morning height is not dishonest at all tbh

but here on CH i have 176cm in my nick and when someone asks me here on CH i will say 176
Canson said on 4/Dec/22
@Winkler: I think your claim of 189 is adequate and very fair given your stats. The full body thing is really debatable because everyone shrinks.
Gian 181cm said on 4/Dec/22
@Zaratustraelsabio
It depends, for some positions it matters, Brazil with 180.7 beat Serbia who had 187cm, but never won in crosses and corners, even Switzerland had difficulties with Serbia in this regard.
I still think the height is inflated, this is based on TransferMarket, Joao Felix for example is listed as 5'11 1/4 but he is 5'10.5-75: Click Here.
,Lewandowski listed as 1.85m, CR7 at 1.87m, Alisson Becker 1.93m, and others.
Emil said on 4/Dec/22
@Zaratustraelsabio

Soccer players/footballers are surprisingly tall wow
Leighton Tang said on 3/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

I remember Darksol was guessed at 6’6 once, so yeah probably.
Alex 6'0 said on 3/Dec/22
More guys would take 6'6 over 5'3 id think too. But majority guys would take 6'0-6'1 over 6'6. 6'0-6'1 seems the alpha male height.
Jdubbz said on 3/Dec/22
@winkler189cm:

It depends how you look at it. Yes morning height is our maximum possible height, but only because we mitigate the effects of gravity on our spine for ~8 hours. You start losing height extremely quickly as soon as you get up, so it's not something you can maintain. It's not a flat out lie I guess, but it's a bit dishonest since basically no one will see you at that height.

I personally prefer low/evening height, but I think a few hours out of bed is fine too. Straight out of bed morning height is similar to a shoe claim to me (though perhaps not quite as bad).
Black Noir said on 3/Dec/22
Hey rob I’ve gotten permission to post on behalf of my family but the man on the right as a 1.2 advantage how many cm is between these two men? No one is slouching I don’t believe

Click Here
Editor Rob
If a good cm advantage, I can't see much more than 3cm between them...but with any comparison, the more photos you see of two people together, the clearer the difference can become.
Peter 180cm said on 3/Dec/22
@Nb We have similar measurements and 180 is what i usually claim as well. Besides,if you lie your body and relax for some time,you'll easily recover about 0.5cm so you will actually be a legit 180cm. Decent height in real life,so close to tall and yet close to average as well.
Peter 180cm said on 3/Dec/22
@winkler189cm You are the height you claim for the majority of the day so why round up? It's already pretty tall lol and sounds cooler than 190 or 191 actually.
Zaratustraelsabio said on 3/Dec/22
Does height matter in football?

The tallest teams qualified to second phase.

Serbia 187,0 Europe: out
Denmark 185,5 Europe: out
France 185,4 Europe: in
Belgium 185,2 Europe: out
Germany 185,2 Europe: out
Croatia 184,5 Europe: in
Morocco 184,4 Africa: in
Senegal 184,4 Africa: in
Poland 184,3 Europe: in
Tunisia 184,2 Africa: out
Netherlands 184,1 Europe: in
Switzerland 184,1 Europe: in
IR Iran 184,0 Asia: out
England 183,0 Europe: in
Canada 182,9 Concacaf: out
Portugal 182,7 Europe: in

9/16... So the height is not very important in football
Emil said on 3/Dec/22
@Nb

I'm sure 180 cm is your midday height so I'd just claim that if I were you
New-One said on 3/Dec/22
Frankly speaking, I can see the height of the Undertaker and Kane the being the same, but I am a bit insecure about it.
Gian 181cm said on 3/Dec/22
@Darksol64
I would say a person starts to look short after 2.5-3 inches of difference so I would guess you would look tall around a 5'11 guy, maybe not so much around 5'11.75 - 6 '0 guys (but still tall).
Of course, guys like Canson and Jdubbz always stand out even with tall guys like you around, so definitely 5'11 guys would look too short (and that goes for 6'0 guys too).

But other than that, I agree with you, I'm 5'11 strong, about 6'0 1/4 in Vans sneakers during lunch and late morning, I think that would put me in the solidly above average range.
winkler189cm said on 3/Dec/22
Isn't the size correct in the morning too? Of course you can see your maximum body length if you measure yourself almost directly from the bed. But let's say you measure yourself within the first 20 minutes of the day. All body sizes in the morning show how long your body is.

Here at Celebheights we're talking about heights that you have a few hours after waking up.

So eg I'm 6'3 straight out of bed. At the beginning you lose the most and after 30-45min I'm already at about 6'2 5/8 (189.5). After 2 hours (without exercise!) at about 6'2.5 (189.2). After 3-4 hours often at 6'2 3/8 and towards 6'2 1/4 sometime in the afternoon.
If I've been out all day (train, work, shopping, sitting) I can still be at 6'2 1/8 late at night. My "extreme low" in the evening after the fitness center is around 6'2.

I've been saying ''I'm 1.89'' all my life.


But theoretically, our bodies are the size of ''straight out of bed'', right? So it wouldn't be a lie.
Jdubbz said on 3/Dec/22
@Darksol64:

You look quite tall in that picture, taller than 6'1.75 at least. It may have to do with the angle of the photo, but you also appear to have favorable proportions for looking taller. If I saw that picture without knowing your height, I would have assumed you were 6'3-4 rather than 6'1.75. Do people usually guess you taller than you actually are?
jokey said on 2/Dec/22
@Rob what's the average head's size of a 5'11 man?
Editor Rob
Not far off 9.5 inches
Harold Green said on 2/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

It is good that you appreciate your height, I do believe 6’6 is a good height and I wouldn’t be arguing if I was to be 6’6. I am still currently 6’1 1/8 in the evening and I do like my height better because I don’t feel tall nor short(quite tall but not something where I would stand out amongst the crowd) but 6’6 would be an ideal height if I want to stand out amongst most of the group. I do agree that 6’6 is not a giant but rather be a tall height since when comparing myself to a 6’6 person, the top of my head is around their eye level so doesn’t really feel like I am being dwarfed by a lot. I would probably consider at least 6’11 to be almost giant height and 7’0 to be at the right level of a giant. I do have a friend who is 7’0 1/4(214cm) and he definitely dwarf me by a lot as I am below his chin and a bit above his shoulders. I did ask my 7 feet friend if he liked his height and he said he would be fine in the outside but in buildings or in most places, he is too tall to fit in many things and he does feel very uncomfortable. He doesn’t mind his height as there are advantages he can do compared to many people shorter than him but he does consider 6’5 to be a pretty ideal height for him personally since compared to a 6’7 person. 6’5 doesn’t have a lot of big disadvantages like having to duck through the door as the the normal height of the door is usually 6’8 and not too much discomfort with bed and can reach through most things as well. But yeah I would say appreciate your height and I do believe every height is good for many things and they each have their own special traits that you can do in this world.
Darksol64 said on 2/Dec/22
@ Billy

I second that. 5'11 range is when you really start to look noticeably bigger than average. A great height. Won't look short around 6' guys or even 6'1.75 guys like me. All in all you'll stand your ground except around very tall guys like Canson and Jdubbz.

Also what's cool about 5'11 is you could cheat an inch with your shoes to appear in public as a 6'0 barefoot guy, and even if the shoes come off most people will think you're 6'0 with all the 5'10 and even 5'9 guys claiming it. Much better than all these 5'9 guys I see trying to fake 6'0 with huge platforms. Sorry guys it just ain't feasible or a good idea.

I would trade my 6'1.75 for flat 5'11 if it came with really nice broad shoulders for the girls.
Bobby said on 2/Dec/22
@Rob Paul

I never understood why small children suck their thumbs. I never did from what I recall, but I weaned off the pacifier fairly early. I don't think I took to it as much as other children may have.

Fascinating.
Editor Rob
The Nipper has never had a dummy/pacifier, but does suck her thumb instead...a comforting/soothing feeling.
adrianposter said on 2/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

I think there are more 5’7 men than 5’7 women, but 5’6 is when the women beat out the men.
Joe Ponce said on 2/Dec/22
@Editor Rob

Can you add Chandra Bahadur Dangi to the website? He was the shortest man ever with a height of 54.6 cm (1 ft 9½ in)
Nb said on 2/Dec/22
Hey Rob if you measured 179.4cm at a low, would it be fair to claim 180cm? How would you feel that height is like in real life? Thanks
Editor Rob
180cm is pretty much what you would get measured at for a physical during the day, so I'd go with it.
dreus23 said on 2/Dec/22
@Billythetreesurgeon

I actually think you could claim the full 6ft, or atleast close to it! No one is gonna think you're inflating your height. Also, in my world, you'd definitely fit closer to the "tall" category than just something between short and tall

I actually typically don't fall to 5'7, which I guess could be rare for someone my height range. I do fall close to it after a tough day, intense excecise, and/or bad sleep, but generally I land right around the 170.5-171 cm area which is 5'7.25. Thanks for saying that it's a nice height! I wouldn't exactly complain if I got another growth spurt, like another two inches or so. I wouldn't want to be over 6ft, but I'd love to be over 5'8. But all in all I'm pretty happy with my height, especially as I easily could've finished up at like 5'5-5'6 instead. Just wait and see I guess
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 2/Dec/22
C-mo @ I no what your saying man, 180 is a lovely height, only problem is though is if most/a lot of your friends are over 6ft you may feel a little short but nothing major
Canson said on 2/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: Likewise! And I agree with everything you said
Gian 181cm said on 2/Dec/22
@hght181
Agree, it's a comfortable height. I wouldn't mind going anywhere in the 5'11 - 6'4 range to be honest, with a preference for 6'3. But 5'8 is the minimum I'd like to have, I don't think 5'8-5'10 is a bad range.
@c-mo 176cm
thanks for the answer bro
Heir of Darkness said on 2/Dec/22
As someone who lives in the Philippines, I must say the comments here gave me a reality check as to how it's like in the west lol. Over here, the average for males is supposedly 5'4, though I think for younger generation middle class males, it's probably around 5'5-5'6. I'd say in a large crowd of mostly middle class Filipinos, the tallest person/s that I see is/are in the 6'1 range. Occasionally, there are 6'2 guys around, but that's it. Legit 6'3+ guys are pretty rare here, and I would probably have to go to a collegiate or professional basketball tournament to reliably find guys who are that tall.

The craziest thing though is despite the reputation of Filipinos being short, basketball is the most popular sport here lol. There's a guy from here who was in the 2022 NBA draft, but he wasn't drafted. His name is Kai Sotto (Rob, you should consider adding him lol), and he's listed at 7'2 (though he's probably shorter lol). Another crazy thing is since the Philippines is a somewhat westernized country, people here glamorize being 6 foot, but that height for a Filipino is probably the equivalent of being at least a 6'4 guy in the west lol.
Hght181 said on 1/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm
181cm is a great height and is perfect for just about everything. Dating, fitting into cars etc. I wouldn't want to be taller than 6'0.
Hght181 said on 1/Dec/22
@Rob
I remember the keyboard letters on my laptop wearing away over time too.
Those small letters/micro letters are almost irreplaceable lol. And yes, all the typing you do ⌨️🦊
You could buy a plug in keyboard or something.
Editor Rob
This is my current computer setup: Click Here.

Unfortunately I don't get much work done when the Nipper comes by as I made a mistake last month of having Youtube on and the Nipper spotted it...now she demands we sit and watch Bounce Patrol songs instead of doing work 😄
Jdubbz said on 1/Dec/22
@C-mo 176cm

Very well said man. I'm genuinely not trying to offend 5'3 guys either, but thinking 5'3 is a better height for a man than 6'6 just seems ridiculous to me. As you said, every inch under average height makes a much more drastic difference than one would assume. It seems like once you cross that average "threshold", each inch isn't quite as important. Of course in countries like the US you have the 6' standard and in others you have a 180cm standard, but for the most part, being average means you're "in the clear".

My dad is about 5'6 now (5'7 prime), and he's noticeably shorter than the average American guy. Of course I tower over both him and the average American guy, but it's still a very obvious difference to me. There are more 5'6 women than there are 5'6 men (in western countries), so I totally get why that 3-4" gap between 5'6 and average height is so much bigger than it seems. Not just from a visual perspective, but also from a psychological perspective. That applies even more to 5'3.

As far as you preferring your height or heights near 6' to 6'6, that is totally understandable. While I don't think 6'6 is too much, I agree that it's not an ideal height for most people and that any very tall height has a unique set of issues.

You being strong 5'9 and me being strong 6'6 means there is almost exactly 9" between us. I'm sure you can tell by my posts that I greatly enjoy being tall, but there is no way in hell that I'd want to be 9 inches taller than I currently am. Of course 6'6 is way less extreme than 7'3, but I can understand why a height 9" taller than your own seems excessive. For someone so far from 6'6, you do a great job visualizing the benefits and drawbacks. I can't say the same about some people here.

I am definitely one of those people who would choose 6'6 over 6'0-1. Hell, I would choose it over any height under 6'5. I think it's just a question of what we're used to. In your case, I know your ideal height is 179cm or 180cm. That makes sense - being slightly above average height has many benefits, plus its not too dissimilar from your own height. If you suddenly grew to 180cm, it wouldn't require an extreme lifestyle adjustment.

The only heights that I'd possibly choose over 6'6 are 6'5 and 6'7. Well not exactly 6'7, but 200cm (6'6.75). Any height in the 195 - 201cm range would be fantastic for me. It's just what I'm used to and what I enjoy.
adrianposter said on 1/Dec/22
Hey Rob,

Does wearing shoe insoles make you drop down to your low faster?
Editor Rob
I don't see how that would have much effect...but maybe the higher angle puts some stresses on your back that you aren't used to?
Progking185 said on 1/Dec/22
@cmo176 183-185 is a good range yeah to be tall in general. I'm noticing around young guys 185 is enough to feel tall most of the time. Of course yeah there are times with more taller guys out but that happens. I'm good at 184 range/6'0.5 and feel tall enough most of the time, especially as I'm 185-186 in the morning, or maybe around that in some bigger shoes. All I know is I've measured 188-188.5 in some.
Progking185 said on 1/Dec/22
@cmo176 183-185 is a good range yeah to be tall in general. I'm noticing around young guys 185 generally is enough to feel tall tall most of the time. Of course yeah there are times with more taller guys out but that happens. I'm good at 184 range/6'0.5 and feel tall enough most of the time, especially as I'm 185-186 in the morning, or maybe around that in some bigger shoes. All I know is I've measured 188-188.5 in some.
Original said on 1/Dec/22
Between 183cm - 188cm is the most convenient man height in my opinion. 185cm or 186cm hits the peak (6'1") imo. You're tall enough to easily break out of average looking tallish at least, you can handle tall women well (5'7 to 5'9, even the 5'10s) while mantain appeal to relatively shorter women (5'2 to 5'4) as well, you have no height issue at all. You are in a adequate, dominant and attractive height around 6'1.
Peter 180cm said on 1/Dec/22
@ c-mo 176cm I'm 179.5cm at my low generally and i get what you're saying -180cm feels pretty good generally but i'd gladly choose 185 anyday because of my proportions(long arms and a freaking 10cm long neck haha I think i'm very lanky for a guy around 180).
c-mo 176cm said on 1/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm

perfect height bro . really



by the way my last comment seems to have not come through . so i will repost :

@jdubbz

i am 115 kg at 176cm :D i have too much bodyfat but also a lot of muscles . and a heavy frame . my FFMI / lean mass index is 24


you can calculate yours here : tinyurl.com/yd8atwer
Gian 181cm said on 1/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm
What do you think about the height of 181cm?
I'm about 5'11 7/8 in the morning and 5'11 1/8 at night, sometimes 5'11 1/4, sometimes I can get 6'0 out of bed.
My average height would be a solid 5'11 3/8 or a weak 5'11 1/2.
c-mo 176cm said on 1/Dec/22
@Honest5'11

185 - 187 is a great height bro . but like i said i think perfect is around 180cm . if i could choose a height to be i would take 180cm . in my experience it is the most aesthetic height and it is also tall enough + very comfortable if not the most comfortable and versitaile height . it is the best height for proportions

only in some situations like sometimes in nightclubs or in city events etc. i feel that 183 - 185cm might be even better because of all the young guys in the western world . there are some situations where there are suddenly a lot of taller guys around . but "even" at my height of 176cm i dont feel short so 180cm is more than enough in such situations too however in such situations you will feel just average at 180cm so if you want to feel above average around 185cm might be better but i noticed that a decent amount of men around 185cm already have some "negative" features like a too long face , looking / seeming clumsy or uncoordinated , lanky etc. . no offense to anybody

if you ask yourself now "what if 185cm without these things + good proportions vs 180cm ? " i would still take 180cm because in my opinion even though 185cm is a great height it is vertically "too long" to be perfect . i have trouble to explain what i mean by that ...i talked about it before . however regarding this "too long" thing 185cm is on the edge . above 185cm IMO is definitely not perfect (still good though) . i might take 182-183cm above all ...but i just like 180cm the most tbh
QM6'1.5"QM said on 30/Nov/22
Jdubbz said 28/Nov/22

OK. Sounds like a prototype of a big American football player, to be honest :)
I weigh good at 70kg and obsessed with development of muscles system, lol. With dumbbells of course. I don't really care about gaining weight and it's not that easy)
Emil said on 29/Nov/22
@QM6'1.5"QM

187 cm is even above average in the Dinaric Alps. Solid tall height anywhere in the world.

Ideal height for a man imo
Emil said on 28/Nov/22
@Comentarista

1.52-1.55 probably
Jdubbz said on 28/Nov/22
Canson said on 27/Nov/22
Rockaway said on 26/Nov/22
6’6” barefoot is most certainly giant. Most people can probably count on two hands how many people they’ve seen this height or taller in their life.

That’s not true. I’ve seen far more people in person that are over 6’6 than just 5-10
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@Canson:

It's good to see you again Canson! I agree completely. I don't see guys taller than me every day (more like once every few weeks), but they exist and there are a decent number of them out there. 6'9 or 6'10 is a different story, as you can go a full year without seeing anyone taller. 6'7 or 6'8, maybe you can go several months.

Each inch above 6'3 or 6'4 gets exponentially rarer, and 6'6 isn't *that* rare to begin with. I honestly can't fathom how people think 6'6 is a giant. I look in the mirror, and I certainly don't see a giant, lol. Very tall/extremely tall and giant are two different things.
Jdubbz said on 28/Nov/22
QM6'1.5"QM said on 27/Nov/22
Jdubbz said on 27/Nov/22
@Vy:

Holy Christ, are you 108 kgs ?!)
Are you fit and athletic or something else ?..
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@QM6'1.5"QM:

I have a broad frame and a decent amount of muscle mass, but I'm certainly not super lean right now. I could stand to lose a good 5 or 10kg. My ideal weight would be 210-220lb/95-100kg, but I don't think 108kg is an unusual weight for a 199cm guy. How much do you weigh?
Jdubbz said on 28/Nov/22
Kevin said on 27/Nov/22
@Jdubbz

I think if you are taller than standard 6'8" doorframes here in the states you are a giant.

6'9"+: Giant
6'8": Borderline giant
6'6"-6'7": Extremely tall but not a giant

I don't think I've ever seen a real 7 footer IRL. Seen a handful of 6'8-6'10 guys and they certainly looked giant-like from my 6'0 POV
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@Kevin

I think that's reasonable. 6'8 doesn't seem *that* tall from my POV, but I'm a bit biased. I can hit doorframes earlier in the day with thick sneakers + orthotics, but obviously that's a lot different than a legit 6'8 barefoot.

I've seen a decent number of 6'8 and 6'9 guys and a handful of 6'10 and 6'11 guys over the years, but also one or two guys who were a bit above 7'0 (maybe 7'1 and 7'2). 6'8 - 6'11 guys definitely give off a super tall impression, but the 7'1 and 7'2 guys are on a different level. If you haven't seen 7 footers irl then I can certainly see why you'd consider 6'8+ guys to be giant, but those guys frankly look unimpressive when stacked up against someone over 7'.

I recently saw a video of Sun Ming Ming (7'9 barefoot) at an airport, and the dude almost looks inhuman (as far as his height goes). That's a true giant right there. Imagine being a full 2 feet taller than the average man and 2.5 feet taller than the average women. It's insane.
Darksol64 said on 28/Nov/22
@ everyone talking about 6'0 range guys claiming 6'2

I've mentioned my height many times on the comments here for various reasons, so I thought I'd take a picture of myself. Here's what an honest 6'1.5- 6'1.75 bedtime height looks like. Probably gives a taller impression than a lot of those 6'2 claimers. :P And I'm guessing Rob would give me a 6'2 listing.

Click Here

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