How tall is Shawne Merriman - Page 10

Andrea said on 21/Jul/18
184guy, I don't know which pic (or video) you're talking about, but he doesn't look any shorter than Armie Hammer here. If anything, he looks a bit taller: Click Here And although we can't see their footwear, I highly doubt Armie is barefoot there...

Andrea said on 21/Jul/18
Again with this Pamela Anderson (and David Morrissey) story, Christian? Who said that they looked 5'6 and 6'3 more often than they did 5'5 and 6'2 in pics??? I can't speak for Pamela because I basically had seen nothing of her before Rob met her, but David certainly never looked 6'3, to me. And do you know how I came to that conclusion before Rob met him and confirmed it? By simply looking at pics of him with people that Rob met (so whose heights are certainly more confirmed than others), such as Jose Pablo Cantillo and Vincent M Ward, and comparing him with them. So stop acting as if celebrities can be noticeably shorter(/taller) than what they generally look in pictures. IF you look at ENOUGH pictures of them with people whose height is more or less CONFIRMED (so with people that Rob has met or people that were officially measured at a certain mark) AND have a decent knowledge about height differences/camera tricks/etc., you can certainly get a very good idea of how tall they are, even without meeting (or measuring) them. The reason why Rob had Pamela at 5'6 and David at 6'3 is probably because he hadn't looked enough at them (and/or he just gave them generous benefits of doubt). And I certainly don't blame him for that, considering that he has a huge number of celebrities on the site and that he cannot "keep track" of all of them. This is what posters should be for: to help him getting a better idea. Plus, it's funny how you keep bringing up Pamela Anderson as leverage to say that every celebrity (well, only the ones you want) could turn out to be noticeably shorter than their listings if Rob ever meets them... Going by that "logic", I could easily turn the tables and say that since Rob moved Callum Blue from 6'0 to 6'1 after meeting him, every celebrity could turn out to be noticeably taller than their listings if Rob ever meets them, but I don't for the reason I have stated.
As for the "people meeting Shawne" thing, as I said, being CH visitors or honest about your height doesn't prove or guarantee anything, so saying that viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because of that is pure speculation and leads nowhere, besides the fact that a guy who has experience about heights, like you say, would never come out with certain estimates and statements, so I really don't know which "experienced" guy you're talking about there...

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Viper: I can certainly say that 6’4.5 barefoot is impossible even out of bed. He may be 6’3 in the morning and 6’2.5 at a low like Christian said. 184guy made another valid point as he did a few months back when he and Harry Sachs stated that Marcellus Wiley is at least an inch taller than Merriman (assuming Wiley is a legit 6’4” at a low). It’s safe to say that Merriman is not over 6’3” flat (6’2.75 imho would be a best case)

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
He doesn’t not “genuinely” “believe” to be 6’5” In the clip. He is “negotiating” with the nurse to boost him up to 6’5”. Clear as day

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rob and Viper: let’s say it’s not staged. that unknown is a huge factor. If he is wearing 1.5” footwear and measured 6’4.5 it means he’s only 6’3” and we also don’t know when it took place. While I don’t see that he’s as low as Viper estimated (although I won’t rule it out because I didn’t meet him), I also won’t rule out 6’2.5-6’3 if he stood straight but I’d go more 6’2-6’2.5 if I had to make the guess

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Andrea: you just said that we cannot see footwear in the pic with Melo and Merriman but that Merriman has less footwear than Melo at the event? How can you tell that if you just said you can’t see the pic? Either way that’s a about 4” difference between them in the pic so if Melo has an advantage its not likely more than maybe a CM (best case 1/2”). That puts Merriman closer to 6’3” (albeit maybe 6’2.75)

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rising and Viper: yea with Melo in person he’s absolute max 6’6.25 but not less than 6’6”. He could be right in between or right at either fraction. He definitely isn’t less than 6’6” though for sure. The people around me said 1.5-2” taller than me. At a quicker glance I got the impression it was closer to 2”.

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rob: the video itself is staged. Of course the medical worker would do that if Merriman himself is joking around as well. He knows he isn’t that tall and he’s trying to make himself that tall. I agree with Viper here

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rising: I have to say that what you said below is 100% spot on and very very sensible and logical!

Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rob: I see what you are saying but when you look at a pic like this that Viper posted where they’re on stage (next to a guy who measured 6’5.1 in the morning) so probably 195cm at low, he doesn’t look over 6’2” next to him and Merriman wouldn’t be slouching there I doubt

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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Jul/18
@Andrea

That was because I didn't find pics of Shawne looking more than 6'3.5" at the time when I made that comment. I only found those pics after that comment was posted. And just because Shawne may look 6'3.5" range in a bit more pics than he looks 6'2.5", doesn't mean that 6'2.5" isn't a good possibility. Look at Pamela Anderson and David Morrissey who were listed about an inch taller than what they are listed now with Pamela from 5'6" to 5'5" and David from either 6'3" or 6'2.75" (can't remeber which) to 6'2". These two looked 5'6" and 6'3" more often than they did 5'5" and 6'2" in pics, but it turned out that they're the latter heights when Rob met them. Guessing a celeb's height sometimes isn't as simple as it seems.
And I don't consider Viper and Canson's friend meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'2" as evidence that he's 6'2" any more than I consider the two Twitter guys meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'4" as evidence that he's 6'4". Both are anecdotes. Like I said, I estimate Shawne to be 6'2.5" and not 6'2" or 6'4", which goes to show you that I don't base my guesses on someone meeting a celeb. I only said that Viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because Viper's a long time CH visitor and has experience about heights and Canson's friend is honest about his height and doesn't inflate, while the two Twitter guys aren't CH visitors and I don't know whether they inflate their heights or not, and I'm more inclined that they might do since a lot of people do it to a degree. If it was the other way around (Canson's friend and Viper guessing Shawne at 6'4" and the two Twitter guys guessing him at 6'2"), I would still be inclined to believe that the former two would be more accurate with their assessments.

viper said on 20/Jul/18
Rising and whats what I saw him at up close in the flesh next to Fabolous, 187-188cm.

I wish NFL.com still had the Buffalo locker room video of Merriman with 6'1.5 Nick Barnett. Merriman was in sandals and Barnett in shoes. Barnett looked an inch taller.

Andrea said on 20/Jul/18
It doesn't (make sense) to you, viper. Since we can't see his feet, we do not know whether he is barefoot or in shoes, but I highly doubt the measurement was "staged" or something like that. And all of that certainly makes something like 6'2-6'3 very unlikely, considering that no 6'2-6'3 guy would ever measure as tall as 6'4.5, even with shoes on (unless they're lifts of course).
Now, sentences like these really do not make sense, although I must say they're pretty amusing to read:
"viper said on 15/Jul/18
So Canson, what do you think of that. Shoes with a bunch of socks, or even boots with a bunch of socks? Or totally staged?"
"viper said on 16/Jul/18
Would the Rock do the same thing at the doctor?

Does this prove Merriman wears lifts?"
"viper said on 19/Jul/18
With big enough shoes you can stand on your toes"
"viper said on 19/Jul/18
I can measure 6-5 in shoes lifting my toes up a bit inside of them."

Andrea said on 20/Jul/18
"Editor Rob
Slightly off-topic but grass shots really can be tricky at times.
Click Here - see how 2 inches can be lost quite easily between the challenger sisters."
Very well said, Rob. That's what I've tried to say more than once, but of course I got accused of "making excuses" by certain funny people on here... I always take with a grain of salt outside pictures, especially grass shots because sometimes the ground can be uneven, without it being that evident.

184guy said on 20/Jul/18
Very strange the clip ....
He for sure isn't that tall
He looked shorter than Armie Hammer when Hammaer was barefoot and him in 1in Nike sneaker

viper said on 20/Jul/18
What do you think guys. 6-2.4 where we know he was barefoot versus 6-4.5 where we know he's in large footwear.

Footwear does not count on this site

viper said on 20/Jul/18
Rob, I just can't believe you can't see that it's obvious he didn't grow 1.5 inches in a few months from his 6-3 listing from sophomore to junior year.

viper said on 20/Jul/18
You have never been more wrong Andrea. A real 6-4 guy has over 2 inches on 6-2 measured pro day Merriman

The reason I would bet all the money in the world is that I've seen him up close and you haven't. :)

viper said on 20/Jul/18
The combine figure is erroneous. He was measured 6-2 at his pro day. Don't think the hospital worker is making it up, but he's in gigantic footwear plus being off herself.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jul/18
@Andrea

That was because I didn't find pics of Shawne looking 6'5" at the time when I made that comment. I only found pics after that comment was posted. And just because Shawne may look 6'3.5" range in more pics than he looks 6'2.5", doesn't mean that 6'2.5" isn't a possibility. Look at Pamela Anderson and David Morrissey who were listed about an inch taller than what they are listed now with Pamela from 5'6" to 5'5" and David from either 6'3" or 6'2.75" (can't remeber which) to 6'2". These two looked 5'6" and 6'3" more often than they did 5'5" and 6'2" in pics, but it turned out that they're the latter heights when Rob met them. Guessing a celeb's height sometimes isn't as simple as it seems.
And I don't consider Viper and Canson's friend meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'2" as evidence that he's 6'2" any more than I consider the two Twitter guys meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'4" as evidence that he's 6'4". Both are anecdotes. Like I said, I estimate Shawne to be 6'2.5" and not 6'2" or 6'4", which goes to show you that I don't base my guesses on someone meeting a celeb. I only said that Viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because Viper's a long time CH visitor and has experience about heights and Canson's friend is honest about his height and doesn't inflate, while the two Twitter guys aren't CH visitors and I don't know whether they inflate their heights or not, and I'm more inclined that they might do since a lot of people do it to a degree. If it was the other way around (Canson's friend and Viper guessing Shawne at 6'4" and the two Twitter guys guessing him at 6'2"), I would still be inclined to believe that the former two would be more accurate with their assessments.

viper said on 19/Jul/18
"Unfortunately, since we can't see Shawne's feet, it is hardly conclusive, but that's just more proof that something like 6'2-6'3 is very unlikely for him,"

This sentence makes no sense. Since we cant see his feet its more proof hes not that?

viper said on 19/Jul/18
Excuse me, 5-11 Fabolous is in the middle. Merriman doesnt look taller than 6'2 next to him.

I would have guessed Fabolous at 5'10 there with the way he looks physically

Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Jul/18
@Canson and viper: Yeah, Melo does pretty much tower over Merriman and along with your sighting, Canson, we also know Melo was measured 6'6.25" and Rob lists him that so almost everyone can agree on him. The Fabolous pic is surprising because he really doesn't look anything over 6'2" there and all things being equal, I'd actually say he appears slightly less, such as 187 cm range unless Fabolous is 181. Maybe Fabolous has a slight ground advantage, but that's nowhere near 5.5". I don't know, I am somewhat wary of these measurements since we've had cases like Gordan Ramsey or even Van Damme. Maybe some of this is posture as Rob said, but Merriman doesn't look anywhere near 6'4.5" in quite a few of these pics so assuming the measurement was legit, I'd guess he had shoes.

@Andrea: Walker also didn't look much taller than Freddie Prinze(claims 6' and Rob now lists him 6'0") so he can look his claim, though I think he might be around 6'1.5" as well. Point being, guesses did drop quite a bit after his 6'1" claim was found so sometimes a guess that seems off can be vindicated. I think anyone who has posted here long enough will have at least a few guesses that seem ridiculous in hindsight. I just don't think arguing about who is credible or not will settle much. More interesting is for both you and viper to keep posting evidence to support your sides and one thing I definitely agree with is Merriman is all over the place in height. Much more than you'd think an athlete would be.

Canson said on 19/Jul/18
@Viper: you’re right about Adam jones. That’s about how tall people that have seen him out and about say he is 6’2.

Canson said on 19/Jul/18
Well Rob Banned Viper at one point in time and now likely has better controls in place to ensure that it won’t happen so it is really a moot point to continue bringing up the “Viper uses multiple usernames and multiples Ip’s”. Average guesses have likely been submitted since he was Banned and since he’s been back and I’m sure that Viper is not the only one who has voted 47 times??? At least I would hope not. The only thing Rob did by mentioning that was give people already full of excuses more of them to use

viper said on 19/Jul/18
I can measure 6-5 in shoes lifting my toes up a bit inside of them.

Canson said on 19/Jul/18
@Rob: to be fair the pic that Viper posted with Carmelo Anthony, Merriman is not dropping that much height (if any). He likely is not as tall as he’s said to be. A 6’6” Melo would make him 6’2”

Canson said on 19/Jul/18
@Rob: the link that Andrea provided today (19 July), I actually provided you on 13 July. However, if you’re going to add that tidbit about that, then it’s also fair to add that Merriman said in the same post (which I pointed out), that he “did not have his 3 pairs of socks on” like he did at the Combine. And to be fair, he is not dropping any height in this picture with Fabulous that Viper posted or with shawne kemp in the previous picture he posted. And his posture was fine in other pics where he looked 6’2”. I don’t wanna accuse him of wearing lifts etc but something has to give because it would mean that Stephen Jackson and Carmelo are 6’8” barefoot and others taller than listed if he’s really 6’4”. At this stage there is just as much evidence that he is only 6’2” as there is 6’4”. Viper has actually done a great job with his pics in this case and probably has debunked the myth

viper said on 19/Jul/18
Don't know how posting that is worthy. We all know he's not that tall and we can't see his feet. He could be wearing the biggest footwear for all we know.

Nelson Rosario is 6-5.1 early in the morning. Click Here Perfect posture for Merriman. That so called measurement is laughable beyond belief

Andrea said on 19/Jul/18
He does look well over 6'1 with Carmelo, but certainly nothing over 6'3, IF Carmelo is just over 6'6. Actually, Carmelo looks noticeably taller than that Breazeale boxer next to Shawne...
But again, we can't see the footwear. Shawne certainly isn't in big shoes at that event with Carmelo: Click Here

viper said on 19/Jul/18
With big enough shoes you can stand on your toes

viper said on 19/Jul/18
Everyone knows that supposed measurement is not real

viper said on 19/Jul/18
Rob, I saw him up close looking 6-1.5-6-2 and his posture was good.

Andrea said on 19/Jul/18
I agree, Rob. The thing is that 6'4.5 measurement is very consistent with that other 6'4 3/8 alleged one, so I have no reason to believe that it's a mistake, or that it was even made up. That's what you could expect from people like Sly or Vin Diesel, but I highly doubt that's Shawne's case. He actually seems to genuinely believe to be 6'5 in the clip... That being said, I still wouldn't give him anything more than 6'4.

viper said on 19/Jul/18
Rob I'm surprised you added that since we can't see his feet. He's obviously not barefoot there.

Andrea said on 19/Jul/18
To be fair, Rising, a 6'1 Paul Walker isn't that hard to believe, and although I haven't seen that much of him, I agree that he probably was a lot closer to that than 6'2 (let alone 6'3), considering that not only he supposedly claimed that mark, but he also didn't look much different than Joshua Jackson, who I think is more of a weak 6'1, in that movie they did together. That being said, viper has given too many delusional and crazy estimates throughout these years, so I really can't take him seriously.
As for Shawne, I have hard time to believe he's as low as 6'2 range for the simple fact that, if you look at the older posts, he does look noticeably taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range, other than looking comfortably taller than every single athlete who was measured in 6'3-6'3.5 as well... And I wouldn't give that much importance to the Average Guess, especially in this case, considering that it's been proven that the same viper rigged it by submitting several 6'2 "guesses" with different IPs and names, in order to make it as low as possible. I would bet money that at least 80%-90% of the votes come from him...

Canson said on 19/Jul/18
@Viper: If everything is straightened out he looks 6’2” with Melo. Nonetheless, it is more credible than some of the other pics as Melo is 6’6 maybe a hair over in person

Andrea said on 19/Jul/18
Rob, you may want to add this to the top: Click Here
Unfortunately, since we can't see Shawne's feet, it is hardly conclusive, but that's just more proof that something like 6'2-6'3 is very unlikely for him, considering that there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can get measured at 6'4.5, even in shoes, unless it's a fake measurement and Shawne kinda bribed the doctor to say that (which I'm sure is very possible in viper's mind 😂)...

Canson said on 19/Jul/18
@Rising and Christian: so the picture with Melo That Viper posted almost confirms that what Viper said and my buddy is accurate. I’ve met Melo in person and he is 6’6”. Maybe Merriman is disadvantaged somehow but not 3” lol.

viper said on 19/Jul/18
So Merriman looks 6-1 with 6-6 Stephen Jackson, 6-1 with 6-6 Jamaal Wlkes, and now 6-1 with 6-6 Carmelo Anthony.

Also looks 6-1 with 6-5.5 Omar Benson

viper said on 19/Jul/18
Even before I realized it was fabolous I thought Merriman just looked 6-0 physically. Click Here

What are the chances he wears small lifts. It would explain that doctor measurement, his height all over the place at times.

6-4 Tom Brady looks nowhere near that short in stature. Nowhere near. Hell most 6-2 guys don't. I don't look that short physicaly in any picture like that

viper said on 18/Jul/18
Rudy Gay is the most credible. Played a whole game with Merriman and said 6-2

viper said on 18/Jul/18
That pic is with 5-11 Fabulous. So he looks 6-1 there as well 6-1 with Carmelo Anthony

Canson said on 18/Jul/18
@Andrea: that’s very true that you can’t prove that my friend or Viper has Met Merriman. At the same time, who is to say that the people on Twitter actually met him? Just because they have a pic with him doesn’t mean that is them. Could be someone else. Sure it could be and like Christian said it also doesn’t prove that they can estimate height. In addition, how do we know that you didn’t tell them what to say or how tall to say that he was in person? In the first one that you posted, it clearly does as Viper and I both saw. This is the one from late February. The guy specifically said 6’3.5-6’4 which coincidentally is the same range that you had been saying. So while I’m not going to sit and accuse you of anything, the inference is there. Not to mention the same poster that did that said that Marcus Allen was “his height” to Viper on Twitter when it’s clear Allen is taller.

By the way, you saying “Christian cannot remain consistent in an argument” just proves one of Christian’s points from before that you cannot come up with your own stuff. Celebheights 6’1.5 said those exact words to you previously

Andrea said on 16/Jul/18
It's funny how you now say that Shawne does look 6'5 a few times, Christian, when just 2-3 comments ago you insisted that the most he has looked is 6'3.5... You really are one of the most incosistent people I've ever dealt with! And while it is true that Shawne's height varies in different pics, just like any other celebrity, as I said a countless number of names, I tend to rule out 6'2-6'3 because there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-3.5 MEASURED people. A 6'2-6'3 guy can maybe look 6'3-6'4 (and more specifically, 6'3.5-6'4) 2-3 times, but not as often as Shawne can. I really don't know where you got the idea that if a celebrity has looked a certain mark a few times, then that mark is as arguable as any other mark they have looked. I'm sorry, but it doesn't work that way, otherwise any celebrity could potentially be noticeably shorter or taller than their listings, when it's really not the case.
As for viper, I can't care less if he's been on the site for 13 years. He could even have been on it for 100 years and that wouldn't change a thing. He's nothing more than a troll in my eyes. A guy who thinks that a 6' Tom Welling and a 6'2 Jared Padalecki are even remotely possible is nothing more than that in my book, and cannot be taken seriously. And I just mentioned a couple of those delusional estimates he's been known for, but I could go on and on...
And I don't see how I would only choose things that fit my narrative, considering that I already told you, I don't know how many times (like in every single discussion I have with you), that even those people on Twitter who guessed Shawne at 6'4 is not evidence to me. I really don't choose anything here. You do, though, considering that you often bring up random people meeting celebrities as some kind of evidence, whenever and only when they fit your narrative and agenda, like you're doing here, when you say that viper and Canson's friend are more likely to better gauge heights just because they visit CelebHeights and/or are honest about their heights (as if it proved or guaranteed anything). As I said, if anything, that's even weaker evidence than the other two guys on Twitter, considering that, in their case, not only we don't know how good they are at gauging heights, but we don't even know if they really met Shawne or not.

Canson said on 16/Jul/18
@Viper: you may be right about Lavar. I had heard he was about 6’3” before. Maybe they were wrong

viper said on 16/Jul/18
Harper always looks 2 inches shorter than 6-2 Max Scherzer. Fallon isn't as tall as listed.

Heck Harper doesn't even look 6-0 physically at the plate to me

viper said on 16/Jul/18
Would the Rock do the same thing at the doctor?

Does this prove Merriman wears lifts?

viper said on 15/Jul/18
So Canson, what do you think of that. Shoes with a bunch of socks, or even boots with a bunch of socks? Or totally staged?

viper said on 15/Jul/18
Trout is supposedly 240 pounds, yet look at him utterly dwarfed in size by JJ Watt.

I'd like to see Watt next to Aarron Judge. Judge makes Stanton look average

viper said on 15/Jul/18
So that doctor video was staged 😄

Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Jul/18
Canson is right about judging from a distance. It can make a few inches seem more minimal than it is. Besides, who is good and bad at judging heights is subjective as we're left to guess on almost everyone here. In fairness to viper, he's been right about some that most others were wrong about. For instance, I remember a lot of 6'2"-6'3" range guesses for Paul Walker while viper was saying 6'1" max. It turned out Walker claimed 6'1" so viper's estimate wound up being more plausible than the 6'2.5" guesses. Whether he's right or not on Shawne, I don't know, but sometimes the least popular guesses end up being the closest. The average guess has Merriman under 6'3" and the 6'2" figure has been mentioned before so viper isn't the only one saying 6'2" range.

Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Viper: to be honest Rising wouldn’t say something like that to you. He has too much class to do that

Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Viper: you’re right Young 6’4 5/8. That means he’s 6’4 1/4 or 1/8 at a low.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jul/18
@Andrea

He does look 6'5" a few times, such as that pic you posted with him and Tebow, who's listed 6'2.25" on this site. He looked 3" taller or at least very close to it next to him. Click Here And no, it doesn't prove your point, because your narrative is that Shawne's about 6'3.5" yet he looks 6'5" in some pics. All it proves is that Shawne's height varies in different pics.
And it's funny how you say Viper's estimate sucks but not the two guys on Twitter who guessed Shawne at 6'4", despite Viper's been on the site for 13 years and has at least a decent amount of knowledge on heights yet the two guys aren't even CH visitors. See what I mean when I said that you only choose things that fit your narrative? I don't see Viper and Canson's friend meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'2" range as proofs, and never did. But I don't completely disregard them either, unlike what you're doing.

Paul NS (6ft 0.5) said on 14/Jul/18
Bryce Harper isn't as tall as 6'3", but he didn't look as short as 6'0" on Fallon.

Canson said on 14/Jul/18
@Christian and Andrea: to be fair I’ve seen Merriman in person as well but I was not close enough to him to make a qualified estimate. I’ll be honest and say that he looked taller than what Viper gave him but then again I didn’t pay enough attention as I was not standing as close to him as Viper was. From that distance if someone is 2” taller/shorter or especially within 2” of someone’s height, from that distance it could be next to impossible. Apparently Viper saw him at the same game I attended but who’s to say his posture wasn’t worse when Viper saw him vs when I did. I saw he was listed 6’4” and assumed he was likely somewhere around that since it was at a distance (practically one section sign of the stadium ex.-201) to 202 was about the distance if not slightly further away. Ground is not always completely level however and I couldn’t see the shoes he was wearing. My friend who has seen him in person just said he didn’t look 6’4” in person and that he isn’t as tall as I am. I told him that people had suggested he was only 6’2” and he said he was 6’2” or so. 6’2” or so could mean 6’2-6’2.5 or a full 6’2.5 or could mean 6’1.5-6’2 like Viper said since we’re just giving a general estimate and although he is decent with a height estimate it’s possible that he was off by half inc in either direction, and it’s possible one had different footwear than the other. Also have to remember in both cases (with my buddy and Viper) that one person may have been awake and on their feet longer than the other. So in Viper’s case (only because I still don’t see Merriman that low), it’s possible Merriman had been on his feet longer than Viper and were either at an extreme low and had poor posture with him. The same could be said about the encounter with Merriman and my buddy who met him. He may not have been standing as straight but that’s actually about how he generally looks is 6’2” range

Canson said on 13/Jul/18
@Viper: check this out. This distinctly says that the measurements end weigh-ins were first on the agenda in the morning. Remember 2006 rise and shine, it was noted that it was at 6am so likely was same time this year as it’s been every year. Meaning combines are still probably near out of bed heights maybe 1/4” less. Baker Mayfied measured 6’0 5/8 here and 6’0 3/8 at the Senior Bowl as he arrived late and had it done at a “different time” than the others. So my guess is that he could be 6’0.25 in the afternoon possibly and maybe 6’1” out of bed max or even 6’0 7/8 out of bed and 6’0 1/8 at a low depending on when he measured at the Senior Bowl meaning if it was a low. Yet he’s gonna he listed 6’1” on the roster

viper said on 13/Jul/18
Lavar next to 6-3.7 aaron maybin. Click Here

viper said on 13/Jul/18
Lavar looks no taller than 6-2 with 6-5 Tony Stewart Click Here

viper said on 13/Jul/18
Lavar looks 6-2 opposite 6-3 Biz Markie.
Click Here
I've studied a lot of Lavar over the years and I think the 6-3.3 he has is bogus

viper said on 13/Jul/18
Lavar looks 6-2 opposite 6-3 Biz Markie. Click Here

I've studied a lot of Lavar over the years and I think the 6-3.3 he has is bogus

viper said on 13/Jul/18
Merriman looks 6-2 with this 5-10 guy. Click Here

Canson said on 13/Jul/18
@Andrea: he looked 6’5” in one of the pics posted with Tebow.

viper said on 13/Jul/18
Young measured 6-4.5

Canson said on 13/Jul/18
@Viper: I can agree that Rising has some good estimates for some. He’s not biased. Of course nobody is perfect but he is also a very respectful poster to go with it

Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Jul/18
@viper: 6'2" looks plausible since Ortiz does only look slightly taller than A-Rod such as on the Fox post game show: Click Here And they look virtually the same in this pic: Click Here yet as mentioned A-Rod and Bonds can look very close: Click Here Click Here I hadn't thought about Harper's height beyond the fact he never looked 6'3", but come to think of it, he's really not much taller than Trout and Trout is nowhere near 6'2" as shown by this pic with JJ Watt: Click Here If we're very generous and say Watt was near his low when measured and the difference is only 4.5" then Trout still looks south of 6'1", but I think there's about 5" between them and combine measurements are pretty early, iirc. With that said, Trout is easily the 240 pounds he's reported as. His neck hasn't been seen since he was a rookie! You can also look at Trout with Kershaw and see Kershaw is well below his 6'4" listing so I have to agree, MLB heights are definitely worse. At least the NBA has a pre-draft camp to keep them somewhat in check, but you don't even know how old a lot of MLB players are, much less how tall they are.

Canson said on 13/Jul/18
@Rising: Well said! All of the guys you mentioned are overlisted

Canson said on 12/Jul/18
@Viper: Palmer is also listed 6’4” and he’s not

Canson said on 12/Jul/18
@Viper: could be posture too. As for Young and Ortiz, that’s close to how he looked with Merriman. Young measured 6’4.75 combine but it was definitely in the morning. We already saw that Vincent Jackson drafted the same year as Young and measured 6’4.75 too but when he got measured at the Senior Bowl in the afternoon was 6’4 3/8. Young is likely the same or even 6’4.25. Even if we stick with 6’4 3/8 that’s still a good 2” with Merriman at least

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viper said on 12/Jul/18
Bryce Harper looks 6-0 to me. 6-2 Max Scherzer always seems to have 2 inches on him.

viper said on 12/Jul/18
If Rising said I sucked I could take it more in stride because he's usually pretty accurate.

With Andrea saying it, It's like a Ford Pinto owner mocking a Rolls Royce owner

viper said on 12/Jul/18
Rickey was listed at 6-2 1/2 in the Pitt media guide in college which is interesting.

Maybe his measured height in shoes

Andrea said on 12/Jul/18
I doubt he's ever looked as tall as 6'5, Christian, but even if he did, like you say, that would be just more proof that he can't be as low as 6'2-6'3 because there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can look as tall as 6'5, so what you're saying not only makes no sense, but it actually proves my point.
And the reason why I say that viper sucks at gauging heights is because of his delusional estimates he's been known for on this site. Anybody that truly knows him knows what kind of poster he is... The fact that he guessed Shawne at 6'1.5-6'2 "in person" just goes to show that he also sucks at gauging heights in person because there's no way he can be as low as that, and there's no need to meet him to assert that. And no, if he had guessed him at 6'3.5-6'4, I still wouldn't have considered it evidence because, I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, random people meeting celebrities is not evidence to me, especially when they are very questionable people like viper. If that was the case, I would just say that Shawne is 6'4 because those two people met him in person (and in this case, you can be sure they really did) and guessed him near that mark, like you always do whenever and only when they fit your narrative of course, but I don't because, unlike you, I remain coherent with my ideas and I still don't consider it evidence, for the reasons I have always stated. 😊

viper said on 11/Jul/18
The only legit 6-1 baseball players I know are Jonathan Schoop and Aaron Hicks.


And they use to be listed at 6-2

viper said on 11/Jul/18
David Ortiz is 6-2. He looked over 2 inches shorter than Vince Young in a pic on wireimage I can't find anymore. He looks a good inch shorter than 6-3 Andre Tippett

viper said on 11/Jul/18
When I hung around Rickey more he could actually give more of a 6-1.5-6-2 impression one day. Maybe it was the footwear.

viper said on 11/Jul/18
Baseball heights are way worse than NBA. Not even close.

5-8 Alex Bregman is listed at 6-0.

Rick Dempsey looked 5-8 to me up close. He's listed at 6-0

Canson said on 11/Jul/18
@Viper: to be fair, you have made good estimates before. And you saying someone else is a bad poster or them saying it about you doesn’t mean it’s a fact. It’s an opinion. Most of the stuff on the site is opinion based. One person may believe you are a bad but someone else may or vice versa may not believe someone else is or isn’t but I may disagree on them. It varies from person to person and what they believe

viper said on 11/Jul/18
Jim Palmer on the broadcast said Brach was 6-5, yet I didn't believe him.

Last night he said 6-8 dellin betances is 6-10 lol

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Jul/18
@Andrea

By that logic, I can easily turn the tables and say that there's no way a 6'4 3/8" allegedly measured person would look 6'5" in some pics, but I won't. That's because the fact is that Shawne's height drastically varies in pics.
And I never guaranteed or said there's proof that Viper and Canson's friend are better at gauging heights than the two guys on Twitter. If you read my first comment where I discussed this, I just said "more likely".
And once again you pulled the infamous "you have no clue about heights" card, this time on Viper. So because he met Shawne and guessed him at 6'1.5"-6'2", he sucks at gauging height in person? You've never met Shawne yourself so you have no right to say anything like that. I bet if he guessed him at 6'3.5"-6'4", your response to him would be the total opposite. You've accused me of "disregarding things that don't fit my narrative" (which I don't), but that's exactly what you're doing now.

Andrea said on 11/Jul/18
"viper said on 10/Jul/18
I've been here for 13 years and I'M BETTER THAN 99 PERCENT HERE, but that's still not good enough for you."
🤣🤣🤣

viper said on 10/Jul/18
This guy is 5-10 comparing him to 5-9.5 Ted Cruz and 5-7.5 Mark Wahlberg.

Merriman looks 6-2 max. Click Here

viper said on 10/Jul/18
I pegged Rickey Jackson exactly right at 6-1. Click Here


Then I saw that's what he measured

viper said on 10/Jul/18
I've been here for 13 years and I'm better than 99 percent here, but that's still not good enough for you.

viper said on 10/Jul/18
If I were that bad at gauging, that's really bad news for you. All relative.

Canson said on 9/Jul/18
@Viper: comparing them to other players you’re right. It may just have been when he’s on the mound he appears that much taller than gausman. That’s probably still an inch however that he has. Means your estimate for Gausman is right most likely if even that tall

Canson said on 9/Jul/18
@Viper: Yikes!

Canson said on 9/Jul/18
@Andrea: to be fair, it’s also possible Viper met him and either had a footwear advantage on Merriman or underestimated him by 1/2”. It’s also possible that Merriman wasn’t standing as straight as he does at other times, as well. I can agree that he rarely looks that short but that could mean that he’s somewhere in the 6’2” range since he did measure there at 6’2 1/2. Only problem is we don’t know what time of the day that one took place either

viper said on 9/Jul/18
Man gets measured in the 6-2 range. I see him at 6.1.5-6-2. My eyesight is terrible.

What a time to be alive

Andrea said on 9/Jul/18
Sorry viper, but if you really met him (and again, I wouldn't bet a cent on it) and legitimately guessed him at 6'1.5-6'2 (and you even mentioned 6'1 once), all of that just goes to show that not only you suck at gauging heights in photos, but also in person. Nothing more than that.

viper said on 8/Jul/18
Trumbo is 6-3. Mancini is 6-3. Adam Jones is a legit 6-2. Britton is 5-11 yet listed at an insane 6-3.

You can be seated in lower reserved at Camden Yards and tell he's under 6-0. I couldn't believe it when I saw it myself.

I think Chris Davis is 6-2.

viper said on 8/Jul/18
Couldn't stop laughing when Rick Dempsey called Manny Machado 6-4. He looks 6-1 and he actually looks a hair shorter than 6-1 Jonathan Schoop at times. Schoop is the most legit 6-1 in baseball. Aarron Hicks is a legit 6-1 too.

viper said on 8/Jul/18
Canson, you are way wrong on Brach :).

Brach admits he's under 6-3. Click Here

Canson said on 8/Jul/18
@Viper: he may have appeared that low to you due to posture or footwear. Not saying he would be 6’4” if he stood straight but that could make the difference between him looking 6’1.5-6’2 and 6’2-6’2.5 or even half inch taller. I know someone who is 6’2” who can give an impression of being only 6’0” or 6’1” because he weighs something like 280-300lbs. He doesn’t stand straight as a result but when he does he actually is a legit 6’2”

Canson said on 8/Jul/18
@Viper: Gausman is still listed at 6’4” and on a side note, don’t know why he is not long gone. This year has doomed the Orioles! I didn’t realize he was that small though. But this could be a case where maybe footwear was not determined but I can look around and tell you that Gausman isn’t 6’4. Brad Brach towers over him. Brach may not be 6’6” like he’s listed but looks to be about 6’4.5-6’5” if not a full 6’5”

viper said on 7/Jul/18
Sorry Andrea, I legitimately saw him looking 6-1.5-6-2 to me. He may not be that low but that's what I saw.

The Orioles Kevin Gausman looked exactly the same to me looking 6-1.5-6-2. He was listed at 6-4 in college.

He looks what I saw him at at the 43 second mark next to 5-7 measured Marcus Stroman.

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Andrea said on 7/Jul/18
I'm not denying that he has looked as low as that a few times, Christian, but yeah, I tend to rule out that range because no 6'2-6'2.5 guy should be looking taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 measured people. Didn't you once say that "no 6'4 3/8" measured guy should be looking shorter than a 6'3" range guy (referred to Boris)"? Well, leaving aside the fact that you know what I think about Boris, I'm basically making the same argument you made, with the big difference that, unlike yours, it's based on MANY MEASURED people.
And again, I never said that those two guys are better at gauging heights than viper and Canson's friend. All I said is that in their case you can at least be sure that they really met him, even if I am the first to say that we don't know how good they are at gauging heights. In viper and Canson's friend case, not only we don't know how good they are at gauging heights, but we also don't even know if they really met him or not. And as I said, being a Celebheights visitor (more troll than visitor, in viper's case) or honest about your own height doesn't prove or guarantee anything, and saying that they are likely to have better judgements at height because of that is pure speculation.
As for those 6'2 and 6'2.5 figures, I have already said what I think about them: "Both those pages that provided those figures certainly don't seem the most reliable ones. In fact, that NFL.com page that lists Shawne at 6'2 also lists Jon Condo at 6'2 3/8, which just doesn't add up, considering that this is how Shawne looks next to the same Jon: Click Here And couchscout not only lists (ON THE SAME PAGE) Shawne at 6'2.5, but also lists Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which again doesn't add up, considering that Shawne does look easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here ".

Canson said on 7/Jul/18
At the end of the day, there is evidence in almost every direction and this is if we don’t take into account the random people meeting him such as Viper, my friend who met him, and the two that Andrea showed. This also includes Rudy Gay’s encounter.

6’2” range because he measured 6’2.4 at his Pro Day and had a 6’2 listing that Rob posted above. He also looks 6’4” in several pics.

6’3” range because he looks that height In several pics as well. This includes almost every part of the 6’3” range (6’3, 6’3.25, 6’3.5+).

6’4 range as he measured 6’4 3/8 at the combine and can look 6’4” in several pics

6’5 range while extremely unlikely there are maybe 2 pics where he can look that

6’1 range while also extremely unlikely there are pics of him looking that as well

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Jul/18
@Andrea

You are denying it, because you said that there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 measured people. You're implying that 6'2"-6'3" is impossible for Shawne. And like I said, the two guys on Twitter have stronger evidence of meeting Shawne because they have a pic with him, but it doesn't prove that they're better at gauging heights than Viper and Canson's friend. If anything, it might suggest that they might not be that good at gauging heights (like the majority of people in the world) since they aren't CH visitors and we don't know if their height claims are honest or not, since a lot of people exaggerate their heights. Viper and Canson's friend are likely to have better judgements at height though.
And the evidence to Shawne being 6'2"-6'3" isn't because Viper and Canson's friend meeting him and guessing him at 6'2" (although it's a good indication), but rather because he was measured 6'2.4" at the Senior Bowl and has an official 6'2" listing by the NFL. If Viper and Canson's friend meeting him and guessing him at 6'2" was evidence, then I would have him at 6'2", but I don't. I have him at 6'2"-6'3", more specifically around 6'2.5". Them meeting him and guessing him at 6'2" is simply an indication of him being 6'2.5", just like the two guys on Twitter meeting him and guessing him at 6'4" is simply your indication of him being 6'3.5"

Canson said on 4/Jul/18
@Viper: Rudy Gay wouldn’t mistake a 6’4 guy for only being 6’2” especially when he himself is 6’7ish

Andrea said on 4/Jul/18
If you look at my older comments, I've never denied it, Christian, and that's the reason why I'm still not completely sure about him. If anything, I appreciate the fact that you admitted that Shawne can easily look 6'4 (not so sure about 6'5), considering that a couple of comments ago you insisted that the most he has looked was 6'3.5, which is clearly not the case. That being said, although there are definitely a few instances where he can really look as low as 6'2-6'3, hence why you could say his height can look all over the place, that certainly doesn't mean that that range is as possible as say 6'3-6'4 because there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 MEASURED people. No way!
As for those two people I've mentioned who met Shawne, it is more evidence than viper and Canson's friend for the simple fact that, in that case, we can be sure that they really met him. In viper and Canson's friend case, you certainly can't say the same. Especially in viper's case, considering that trusting his word is like, if not worse than, trusting the word of someone who believes that the Earth is flat. And even if they did, you don't know how good they are at gauging heights, no matter if they are CelebHeights visitors or honest about their heights. That doesn't proof or guarantee anything. It's pretty easy to overestimate/underestimate heights if you don't pay attention to things like footwear, posture, ground or the top of someone's head. And that's the reason why I always take estimates like those with a large pinch of salt and NEVER consider them real evidence, even if I agree with them. Even now, I could easily say that Shawne is 6'4 because those two people met him in person (and in this case, you can be sure they really did) and guessed him near that mark, like you always do whenever and only when they fit your narrative of course, but I don't because, unlike you, I remain coherent with my ideas and I still don't consider it evidence, for the reasons I have always stated.

Canson said on 4/Jul/18
@Viper: he can look other heights like 6’3 and 6’4 at times as well. Christian and Andrea both have points. Christian said it best that his height looks all over the place. But yea at times I’m sure there are pics of him looking 6’1” range out there

viper said on 4/Jul/18
A basketball player like Rudy Gay should know what a 6-2 guy looks like.

viper said on 3/Jul/18
Art Monk is 6-2 and not the 6-3 I always thought he was.

viper said on 3/Jul/18
IMO the best angle to tell their height apart is at the 17 mark. Lavar at best looks the same height as 6-2 Gilbert

viper said on 3/Jul/18
Correction Canson. Merriman can look 6-1 a lot.

Canson said on 3/Jul/18
@Christian: I can almost by looking tell he’s not as low as 6’1.5-6’2 maybe he was slouching but I could see Maybe Viper underestimating half inch but if he saw him shorter than him he’s likely 6’2” range like my buddy confirmed

Canson said on 3/Jul/18
@Christian: the one poster who Andrea is referring to guessed (I think Marcus Allen) as his height. Viper challenged him as well a few months back as it was on Twitter and Allen was apparently taller than the other guy. I know his 6’3.5-6’4 came after Andrea showed him the page where we were debating here and he saw his guess for Merriman. My opinion is that Merriman would measure that in shoes 6’3.5-.75 easy. 6’3.5-6’4 makes even less sense than 6’2 would because a guy measuring that high in the AM and that far above 6’4 would only have been on his feet for prob an hour but I doubt he was directly out of bed. At least Viper’s 6’2” estimate makes sense if the Pro Day were a height after he had been laying down or a morning height. That I could and would actually believe although I see a weak 6’3 or strong 6’2 and not 6’1.5-6’2

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 2/Jul/18
@Andrea

I appreciate the fact that you admitted that Shawne's height looks all over the place. Like I said, he can look anywhere from 6'2" to 6'5" in pics. And sure, the two guys on Twitter had pics with Shawne so you can say that they undeniably met him, but them guessing him at 6'4" is no more evidence than Viper and Canson's friend guessing him at 6'2" range. Keep in mind that many guys exaggerate their heights, and they're most likely aren't CelebHeights visitors, so we don't know how well those two are at gauging heights. A lot of people who aren't honest with their heights in real life tend to guess me at 6'7" despite me being 6'5 3/8". Guys like Viper and Canson's friend on the other hand, are more likely to better gauge heights because Viper's a visitor on CH and all of Canson's friends are honest with their heights. Most people who I meet who are honest guess me at 6'5-6'6" or about 6'5".

Canson said on 2/Jul/18
@Viper: yea with wall that has to be camera. Davis is def taller than Wall

Canson said on 2/Jul/18
@Viper: I can agree on the Edwards pic. There are several occurrences of him looking 6’2”. I’ve seen just as much of that as well of him looking 6’2/6’2.5. That’s odd tho that his combine was 6’4.3. But then again Lavar shows 6’3.3 and draftscout shows him 6’2.2 which is weird. Btw, another one there, Darnerian McCants is listed 6’4” flat (6040) on the combine listing but 6’3” here on Draftscout and the NFL listed him 6’3” when he played

Canson said on 2/Jul/18
@Viper: it depends on camera angle. Lavar looks taller at other points in the video. That’s odd that he’s listed 6’2.2??? Wow!

viper said on 2/Jul/18
6-3 Vernon looking shorter than John Wall. Click Here

Canson said on 1/Jul/18
@Junior and Viper: have to remember Rob has Ben Affleck at 6’2.5 when he really can look 6’1” range. He also had several other celebs overlisted by more than just half inch and they haven’t been adjusted. Merriman may be no different. Now to be fair Merriman may not have stood at his tallest when Viper met him but to be fair as well, I’m also from the Washington DC area and have a friend who has met Merriman. I asked him how tall and was he as tall as listed and he said no way. When I mentioned What Viper said about 6’2” he said he looked 6’2” ish or about 6’2”. Now coincidentally, the MD game Viper met Merriman at, I believe I was there too. I saw Merriman as well but he was at a distance so I assumed he was prob his listed height but because I wasn’t close enough.

viper said on 1/Jul/18
6-2 Geno Smith has been guessed at 6-4 on Twitter.

Also, Merriman did not deny the 6-2 statement from Rudy Gay in his tweet back to him.

viper said on 1/Jul/18
0 percent chance Merriman is 6-4. His posture looked fine to me when I saw him at 6-1.5-6-2. Not 6-3 either

viper said on 1/Jul/18
What's really interesting is that couchscout has Lavar at 6-2.2 Click Here

6-2 Gilbert Arenas looks a hair taller than Lavar at the 17 second mark Click Here

viper said on 30/Jun/18
Canson how tall does he look to you next to 6-1.5 Donnie Edwards Click Here

I see no taller than 6-2

Canson said on 30/Jun/18
@Viper: Lavar looks every bit of 6’3” in games and from a couple people I know that have met him. And I agree with your comment you made because there are quite a few pics where Merriman doesn’t look anything remotely close that I have posted alone. He looks 6’2” range with Beast Mode as well

Canson said on 30/Jun/18
@Viper: Lavar looks every bit of 6’3” in games and from a couple people I know that have met him.

viper said on 29/Jun/18
Just because Rob doesn't have him as that doesn't mean so.

Junior, I've seen him in person and he's nowhere close to 6-3 range. He looked 6-1.5-6-2 honestly.

He could be as high as 6-2.5 but that's it.

Canson said on 29/Jun/18
@Junior: rob is great but doesn’t mean he’s perfect. He had Pamela Anderson Lee an inch higher until he met her then dropped her. To be fair he hasn’t met Merriman so if he did he would be able to make a better assessment. And who knows maybe he really is 6’4” but maybe he really is only 6’2” range. Gotta remember he’s never met Affleck either and he’s likely overlisted

Canson said on 29/Jun/18
@Andrea: to be fair there is no proof that the person you met on Twitter actually knows how tall Merriman is, either. So just because the guy has pics with him (and you also threw a range out there to him that you thought he was as Viper and I both saw). Therefore, just because there is a picture with Merriman, doesn’t make it any more credible.

viper said on 29/Jun/18
So many people think Barkley is taller than his 6-4 5/8-6-4.75 measurements. He can look taller

And alas, Shawne Merriman looks 6-2 next to Barkley

viper said on 29/Jun/18
I'm not so sure Lavar is 6-3. He looks the same height as 6-2 Gilbert Arenas playing basketball on YouTube.

viper said on 29/Jun/18
Sorry Andrea, he doesn't look taller than every single athlete in that range. In fact he has looked shorter with the examples I've provided.

And again, I'm not going to misjudge a 6-4 guy at 6-1.5-6-2.

And also, a guy who played a whole basketball game with him and said 6-2

Canson said on 29/Jun/18
Vince Young was also measured in the 6’4 range at 6046 (morning height) as was Vincent Jackson. Merriman is nowhere near as tall as either of them

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Merriman with Brees (5’11 7/8) at the Aloha Bowl

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Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Viper: true there is no 6’3” measurement. But there was “allegedly” a 6’4 3/8. Oddly enough although he didn’t measure it, 6’3” is how he can look at times. But can look 6’2 or 6’4 too

Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 28/Jun/18
If Shawne Merriman is only 6'2-6'3 like some people posted then why do Rob listed him 6'4. think. 6'3 1/2 will be his low not under.

Andrea said on 28/Jun/18
I'm going to rule out 6'2.5, based on ALL the pics I have posted with other MEASURED athletes, not only based on Tebow's pic, Christian. As I said, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range, and even more so, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look taller than every single athlete who was measured around an inch taller than that. And, unlike Boris, it is true that Shawne's height can really look all over the place at times, but generally he can look anywhere between 6'3 and 6'4.
And since you give so much importance to random people "meeting" celebrities and keep considering it evidence, I suggest you to take a look at my older comments because I did post 2 people who met him and both of them guessed him near 6'4. And in that case, it's certainly much stronger evidence, considering that they both had a picture with him (so they met him for a fact). To me it is not evidence at all, but for a guy like you who seems to base everything on that, it should be indeed, although I'm sure you will hypocritically disregard that for the simple fact that it doesn't fit your narrative...

Canson said on 28/Jun/18
Merriman with Drew Brees who measured a hair under 6’0” at the Aloha Bowl (5’11 7/8)

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Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Christian: another variable is the floor. In the pics that have been posted where people assume he’s 6’4 or more this has to be taken into consideration. Below he is with 6’3” Lavar Arrington. No way that Arrington would make him look that small unless he’s standing on something similar to Merriman with Tebow shouldn’t look that tall. Even if he were nearer 6’4. According to those who have met Lavar in the area when he played here, he’s legit 6’3 in person

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Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Viper: in the pic with Spiller, he’s not even standing straight. You’re right that’s his max if he were to stand straight. Spiller doesn’t have 4” deficit with current stances tho

Canson said on 27/Jun/18
@Christian: even discounting my buddy who met him and Viper, I can see him next to Shawn Kemp and how he stacked up with LT vs how Vernon Davis stacks up with him and tell Merriman isn’t 6’4”. Also you bring up a good point. If Merriman is 3” taller than Tebow, and Tebow measures 6’2.75, then Merriman should’ve been close to 6’6 in the AM like 6’5.5 minimum when a 6’8 range Shawn Kemp had him by much more than 3” it was close to 6” assuming Kemp is even the 6’8.5 and not less. Even if he is Merriman is 6’3” max next to him. Not to mention a 6’4.3 guy isn’t going to be taller than his Combine measurement nor will he be a weak 6’4 from a morning measurement an hour out of bed. He would be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4” similar to Calhoun who is also taller than Merriman by a good inch to inch and a half.

Canson said on 27/Jun/18
@Viper: that’s odd because Tebow really doesn’t look over 6’2”. He must have poor posture. A 6’2.75 or 7/8 morning height should be 6’2.25 no lower at their lowest. Perhaps even 6’2 3/8. Something has to give here

viper said on 27/Jun/18
He's a measured 6-2. Not 6-3

viper said on 26/Jun/18
6-2 Max with 5-10.2 pro day measured CJ Spiller. Click Here

viper said on 26/Jun/18
Merriman looks the same with Tebow here as 6-2 Justin Hartley Click Here

viper said on 26/Jun/18
He looks 6-1 with 6-2 Armin Van burren.

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Canson said on 26/Jun/18
@Viper: maybe he didn’t stand at his tallest next to you but I can agree he likely is not 6’4” or close. Maybe he is close to 6’3” if he didn’t however

viper said on 26/Jun/18
Tebows was measured at 6-2.6-6-2.7 3 different times.

At the combine, senior bowl, pro day

Canson said on 26/Jun/18
Another video of Titus O’Neil and Merriman

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Canson said on 25/Jun/18
If we Compare Titus O’Neil with LT. LT is 5’10.25 morning height so maybe 5’9 3/4-5’10 at a low. Then compare that with how he looks with Merriman. I agree with Christian 6’4 3/8 is impossible even an hour out of bed. He doesn’t look anything more than 6’2.5 in this pic same with Shawn Kemp, same with Beast Mode

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Canson said on 25/Jun/18
Compare Titus O’Neil with LT. LT is 5’10.25 morning height so maybe 5’9 3/4-5’10 at a low. Then compare that with how he looks with Merriman. I agree with Christian 6’4 3/8 is impossible even an hour out of bed. He doesn’t look anything more than 6’2.5 in this pic same with Shawn Kemp, same with Beast Mode

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viper said on 25/Jun/18
No taller than 6-2 next to 6-1.5 Donnie Edwards. Click Here

viper said on 25/Jun/18
A tad shorter than 6-2 Matt Kemp. Click Here

Canson said on 25/Jun/18
Agreed Christian

viper said on 25/Jun/18
Man, Tebows 6-2.75 is a trillion times more accurate.

Anyway, there is no way I could be off that much seeing a supposed 6-4 guy at 6-1.5-6-2. Rudy Gay playing a whole basketball game with him and seeing him at 6-2

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 25/Jun/18
@Andrea

In the second pic with Shawne and Tebow, it looks about a 3" difference, making Shawne look 6'5" range. If you're gonna rule out the 6'2.4" measurement based on that pic, then by that same logic, you should rule out the supposed 6'4 3/8" measurement as well, since a 6'4 3/8" (especially morning) measured guy shouldn't be looking 6'5". This just goes to show you that at times Shawne can look much taller or shorter and his height is all over the place, similar to Boris. Depending on pics, (including pics with decent camera angles) Shawne can look 6'2", 6'2.5", 6'3", 6'3.5", 6'4" and even 6'5". But the main reason why I rule out the supposed 6'4 3/8" measurement, is because 2 different people met him and said he looked about 6'2" range. And also looking shorter than Boris, the guy whom several people met him and said he looked 6'3" range. No 6'4 3/8" measured guy should be looking shorter than a 6'3" range guy.

viper said on 25/Jun/18
6-2 Geno Smith looks noticably taller than a lot of athletes. He looks much taller physically than Merriman. A couple of people on Twitter thought he was 6-4 in person.

viper said on 25/Jun/18
Merriman looks 6-1 with 6-2 Armin Van Buren. Click Here

viper said on 25/Jun/18
Sorry Andrea, the guy was listed at 6-3 in college his first 2 years. So he's not 6-4. There are more pics that shows he's 6-2 that I've shown over the years.

He's nowhere close to 6-4. He looks 6-2 in person Max.

Andrea said on 24/Jun/18
Actually, his 6'4 3/8 measurement seems a lot more believable than Tebow's 6'2.75 one, considering that the difference between them can certainly look bigger than what their measurements suggest (1 inch and 5/8): Click Here Click Here
I would safely rule out those 6'2 and 6'2.5 figures for two reasons. First of all, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look noticeably taller than so many athletes, who are supposed to have been measured around the same range, and even more so, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look comfortably taller than so many atheletes, who are supposed to have been measured around an inch taller than that. And second of all, both those pages that provided those figures certainly don't seem the most reliable ones. In fact, that NFL.com page that lists Shawne at 6'2 also lists Jon Condo at 6'2 3/8, which just doesn't add up, considering that this is how Shawne looks next to the same Jon: Click Here And couchscout not only lists (ON THE SAME PAGE) Shawne at 6'2.5, but also lists Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which again doesn't add up, considering that Shawne does look easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
That being said, it's funny (but certainly not surprising) how certain people here say that he never looks 6'4. Not only there are many instances where he does look 6'4, if you look at all the pics I have posted on this page, but there are certainly more instances where he looks 6'4 than 6'2 or 6'2.5.

Canson said on 23/Jun/18
@Viper: I can’t speak for English because he could look taller tbh but you’re right about Gates. In the pro bowl pic they’re standing next to each other and Gates has a little on him. Gates isn’t a 6’4 guy either. He was supposedly measured 6’3.5 but not sure if that’s a low either. I mentioned a couple days ago that the pic Andrea posted below with LT and Vernon Davis is on Davis’s FB page. That pic is full and you can tell that LT is standing much further up than Vernon and that LT has footwear advantage with thicker boots. Davis looks taller with LT than Merriman all things considered

Canson said on 23/Jun/18
@Christian: my guess is the senior bowl listing is more accurate or he may dip into the strong 6’2” range. 6’3 is absolute max on a good day. Viper is right in that Rudy Gay called him 6’2” as well and with Shawn Kemp that’s too much for him to be anything over 6’3” and that doesn’t take into account Kemp is leaning like Viper said. For good measure, here’s Kemp with Shaq and Dominique Wilkins (who is said to be 6’6.5 or 6’7 as well). I know someone who has met him and pegged him 6’6” range. Kemp is max 6’8.5. My friend who met him pegged him as around 6’2” and Viper had 6’1.5-6’2 but there’s a chance he wasn’t standing his tallest.

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viper said on 22/Jun/18
Merriman has looked 6-1 quite a bit with Marcus Allen, Omar Benson, Stephen Jackson, Mario, Jamaal Wilkes just off the top of my head. All of those I have shown except Jamaal Wilkes where I can't find the pic.

You can show examples where he looks taller than 6-2 and shorter.

viper said on 22/Jun/18
Not true Andrea. Merriman has looked shorter than Gates and Shaun Phillips.

He has looked the same height as English

Canson said on 22/Jun/18
@Andrea: the pics with Vernon Davis are no good. Davis is leaning in the one pic where we can see their full bodies.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Jun/18
He looks too short to say he measured 6'4 3/8". If the measurement was 6'4" flat then just maybe I can believe it to be legit since most NFL players are about 1/4"-1/2" shorter than their measurements since the most he has looked is 6'3.5", along with 6'3", 6'2.5" and 6'2" in pics. I can confidently rule out the 6'4 3/8" as an error.

Canson said on 21/Jun/18
@Viper: yea Kemp is supposed to be 6’8.5. Merriman is not 6’4 with him for sure. He could be 6’2.5 however to be fair. Kemp may not be even a full 6’8.5 at a low tho either

Andrea said on 21/Jun/18
6'2 or 6'2.5 is quite hard to buy for the simple reason that he looks noticeably taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range, such as:
- 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
As for 6'3, he can certainly look closer to that at times, but again, he looks comfortably taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range as well, such as:
- 6'3 2/8 measured Vernon Davis ( Click Here ): Click Here Click Here
- 6'3 1/8 measured Shaun Philips ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- 6'3 4/8 measured Nick Hardwick ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- 6'3 4/8 measured Antonio Gates ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- Indirectly with 6'3 1/8 measured Damien Woody ( Click Here ), considering that they both appeared with Boris and that Shawne looks closer in height to Boris than how Damien does: Click Here Click Here
That being said, even if there are several instances where he looks near enough 6'4, like in those pics with Breazeale (just to mention the most recent one), he may well be more of a weak 6'4, and that 6'4 3/8 measurement could be similar to Tim Tebow's one, who generally doesn't look over 6'2 flat, despite his 6'2.75 measurement.

Canson said on 20/Jun/18
Merriman with a weak 6’1” Ray Lewis. That’s not a 3.5” difference in height

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Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Christian: that’s correct! In some pics that’s how it is here on this site. Someone doesn’t stand as tall as possible and it’s automatic that the other person looks “XYZ” with them. I can see Merriman maybe dropping to 6’2.25 at a low and it’s possible that the 6’2.4 is really 6’2 3/8 and not 1/2. However, I would say the same as you did he never looks as low as 6’1.5-6’2”.

@Viper: yes . Just because they’re listed at a height on TV means nothing. The NBA routinely lists people 2” or more taller than they are and that means nothing when it comes to their “actual” height

viper said on 19/Jun/18
Kemp is leaning in as well

viper said on 19/Jun/18
With 6-8.5 Shawn Kemp Click Here

viper said on 19/Jun/18
dubbadoughWell, I guess Trumpito is a legit 6’3” if he’s almost as tall as Lights Out.

HAHA

Canson said on 19/Jun/18
@Viper @Andrea:

The measurement for Brown or Merriman in 05 are the measurements that they were given during the combine. That doesn’t make it more official simply because they read it on TV when they announced either of the two as picks. If they screwed up the measurement in the combine then they would once again screw it up there on TV. Not saying either of the two is accurate or not but in Merriman’s case he has a 6’2 1/2” measurement as well as the 6’4 3/8 measurement so we are not sure which of the two is accurate. It could very well be that the former is or the latter. The problem is at times he doesn’t look as low as 6’2 or 6’2.5 in pics but he never looks 6’4” as he would if he really measured that in the morning. Even if that were a morning height, he should still be a solid 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 at a normal low which he clearly isn’t. I’d be hard pressed to say he’s taller than Vernon Davis

Canson said on 19/Jun/18
@Viper @Andrea:

The measurement for Brown or Merriman in 05 are the measurements that they were given during the combine. That doesn’t make it more official simply because they read it on TV when they announced either of the two as picks. Not saying either of the two is accurate or not but in Merriman’s case he has a 6’2 1/2” measurement as well as the 6’4 3/8 measurement so we are not sure which of the two is accurate. It could very well be that the former is or the latter. The problem is at times he doesn’t look as low as 6’2 or 6’2.5 in pics but he never looks 6’4” as he would if he really measured that in the morning. Even if that were a morning height, he should still be a solid 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 at a normal low.

viper said on 19/Jun/18
I'm sure the tv had Andre Rison at 6-1 getting drafted when he's 5-10

viper said on 19/Jun/18
Lol tv. Tv has never lied before :)

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jun/18
@Canson

You're right. They weren't standing at their tallest and we can't see footwear.

@Viper

I can see 6'2.5" for Merriman similar to how he was measured at Senior Bowl at 6'2.4", but I'm not sure if he's as low as 6'1.5"-6'2". I don't see enough pics of him looking that low. The 6'2" Pro Day listing was probably rounded down from 6'2.4"

viper said on 18/Jun/18
NFLcombineresults is not accurate. It has Tim Brown at 6-0 when he was measured at 5-11

Canson said on 18/Jun/18
This link that Chesterfield provided below puts Brazeale at 6’6” while others say 6’7”. The 6’7”’likely come from the 6’6.5 measurement he was supposed to have received so likely rounded up

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Canson said on 18/Jun/18
@Christian, @Viper: based on what my friend told me the most I could buy is maybe 6’2.5 max. He just said “6’2ish. But In your case you mentioned 6’1.5-6’2 (weak 6’2). Based on some pics he looks taller. For example this pic I would estimate to be “about” a 3” difference. Christian raises a good point about footwear. The pic isn’t the greatest either.

The other variable is that Brazeale looks almost the same height as Anthony Joshua. Maybe half inch difference. Rob estimated AJ as a “weak 6’6”. He mentioned in response to me on his page that he doesn’t think he would measure above 6’6” flat which likely means he’s 6’5.5-6’6” zone. My guess would be about 197 and Brazeale maybe 6’6.25 a low or 6’6-6’6.25 zone. That’s very little between them. Brazeale’s 6’6.5 was likely earlier in the day as most athletes are measured in the morning. While I won’t call it out of bed it may be like a combine where he may only be 6’6 or a 6’6-6’6.25. But Even going off the low, Merriman would likely clear a flat 6’3” based on the pic but not by much. If we go off a 6’6.5 in the pic, Merriman could look close to weak 6’4”. The weak 6’4” just never adds up but neither does 6’3” because he measured “supposedly” 6’4 3/8 and 6’2.5 and supposedly 6’2”.

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Andrea said on 18/Jun/18
Even on TV, during the draft day, he was described as "6'4 3/8, 272 lbs": Click Here

Canson said on 17/Jun/18
@Viper: it’s about 3 the more I see it. About” could be slightly less or slightly more.

Canson said on 17/Jun/18
That may pass for 3” but 3.5 is high. Problem is that we don’t see how either is really standing and we don’t see footwear. This would determine a lot

viper said on 17/Jun/18
I do know Merriman is a real person and that he looked 6-1.5-6-2 fairly up close. Cansons friend saw him at 6-2. Rudy Gay played a whole basketball game with him and said 6-2. He was measured at his pro day at 6-2.

I'm gonna have to put all my money on 6-2

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 17/Jun/18
Assuming Breazeale's strong 6'6", Shawne looks about 6'3.5" next to him. But we don't know their footwear.

Andrea said on 15/Jun/18
If that's a 3-3.5 inches difference, then Breazeale's eyelevel is almost 7 inches, considering that the amount of height that Breazeale has on Shawne is less than half of his eyelevel: Click Here I'm sorry, viper, but I don't believe in aliens 😕

Canson said on 15/Jun/18
@Andrea: he could be 6’6.5 but I would say with how he looks next to AJ that he’s a touch less. I wouldn’t go under 6’6” perhaps 6’6.25 maybe max. I could say Merriman looks 6’3” but not 6’4 and in that pic he isn’t as low as 6’2”

Canson said on 15/Jun/18
@Viper: I will say this. I firmly believe that he doesn’t look more than about 6’3” in the pic. The pic isn’t the best but Merriman still looks max 6’3” imho. Brazeale is listed 6’6.5 and that’s why he got the 6’7” listing Andrea referred to as that’s what he is on the Tale of the Tape or in official listings. But as an athlete, we all know that may just be a morning height as Rob even mentioned on AJ’s page that AJ is not over 6’6” in person which with how he lists the celebs means he’s likely weak 6’6 like he did list him. Rob typically gives a celeb the benefit of the doubt. As for Brazeale, I don’t think he’s under 6’6. My guess is somewhere 6’6-6’6.5 range and Merriman based on the pic 6’2.5-6’3” but then have seen other pics where he looks less or more

viper said on 15/Jun/18
That's a 3-3.5 inch difference. Sorry Andrea

Andrea said on 15/Jun/18
If Breazeale is 6'6.5 range, which is quite possible, considering that he looks AT LEAST 2 cms taller than Joshua, then Shawne certainly doesn't look under 6'4 next to him.

viper said on 15/Jun/18
He doesn't look taller than 6-2.5 there

Canson said on 14/Jun/18
Brazeale is said to be 6’6.5 here. If AJ according to Rob is a weak 6’6 6’5.5-6’6 in person, Brazeale could even be 6’6-6’6.5 but that covers the 6’6.5 measurement as it likely was in the morning

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Canson said on 14/Jun/18
If there’s a difference between Brazeale and AJ it’s maybe half inch. At times they can even look the same. Brazeale is probably a strong 6’6”.

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viper said on 14/Jun/18
Merriman looks 6-2.5 with 6-6 Dominic

Andrea said on 13/Jun/18
That Dominic Breazeale guy generally gets listed at 6'7 and he does look comfortably taller than someone like Anthony Joshua, if you take a look at them together. So, if Anthony himself is just under 6'6, that guy must be at least 6'6-6'7, which actually puts Shawne near enough 6'4 there as he doesn't look more than 2-3 inches shorter than him (maybe right around 2.5 inches): Click Here

Chesterfield said on 6/Jun/18
Significantly shorter than 6'6 Dominic Breazeale. Click Here Click Here

Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Christian: Thanks!

Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Christian: I wonder how far back this goes. I had a former coworker prior to this job, that tried out in the NFL. It was all the way back in 2001 and he measured 6’5 3/8 according to the combine page but when asked how tall he was he said 6’4 7/8 to me and he did look around 6’5 as opposed to near 6’5.5 I never paid attention to it but he and I still talk on occasion and it stood out when I came on this site a few years back and looked his measurement up and remembered that after I began comparing times of day maybe last year

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/May/18
@Canson

Very good information

Canson said on 29/May/18
looks like NFL combine is early morning (1 hour or less out of bed). The senior bowl measurements are 3/8-1/2” lower. Below is 2006. The Senior Bowl measurements are early morning these days too as they align with the combine while Pro Day measurements are still lower

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Canson said on 26/May/18
@Christian: yea I’ve seen a lot of evidence that points to him being around 6’2.5

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 24/May/18
Looks about 1.5" taller than Kyrie Irving Click Here

Canson said on 21/May/18
@Christian: yea Beast Mode would likely be a weak 5’11 being he’d be 5’10 5/8-3/4 at a low. However, for Merriman, while there is evidence of him looking close to 6’4, there is just as much of him looking 6’2, 6’2/6’3, and 6’3. His height is all over the place. To add to that, there is a measurement of 6’2, 6’2.4, and 6’4 3/8. But It just doesn’t add up to 6’4 imho. 6’2 and change is my guess

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/May/18
@Canson

You're right, Lynch's about 5'10.75" at his low. It's a good rule of thumb to deduct 3/8" from players' combine heights to find out their evening heights, although some are closer to their measurements and others much lower.

Canson said on 14/May/18
The absolute most he looks in this picture is 6’3” next to Kasim Osgood and Antonio Gates who were 6’4 7/8 and 6’3 1/2, both of which are presumably morning measurements.

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Andrea said on 11/May/18
Rob, here's the answer from the owner of couchscout, where he basically admits that his data aren't always reliable: Click Here
Although we can all agree that that 6'4 3/8 figure does seem too much for Shawne, I highly doubt he's ever measured as low as 6'2.5 as he looks noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that... That being said, a weak 6'4 is probably a better shout and maybe that 6'4 3/8 measurement is bit like Tim Tebow's one, who generally doesn't look over 6'2 flat, despite his 6'2.75 measurement.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/May/18
@Canson

Agreed 100%

Canson said on 8/May/18
@Christian: I’ve always felt that his Pro Day 6’2 1/2 may be a better Listing than 6’2” flat. If AP measured 6’1 1/2 at the combine he’s probably around a flat 6’1” at a low. Merriman imho looks 6’2-6’3”

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 7/May/18
Looks about 1.5" or 1.75" taller than 6'1" listed Adrian Peterson Click Here

Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Viper: I doubt Smith is taller than Merriman. But agree that Smith is 6’2” at a low since he measured 6’2 3/8 at the combine

viper said on 22/Apr/18
I bet 6-2 Geno Smith would edge him out. He looks taller than Merriman

Canson said on 20/Apr/18
@Viper:

To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, if what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well

Canson said on 20/Apr/18
@Viper:

To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, of what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well

viper said on 19/Apr/18
No need to measure Merriman Rob. Already measured at 6-2.4

Canson said on 19/Apr/18
@Viper: that comment where I said @Merriman was actually a post to you

viper said on 19/Apr/18
Merriman was listed at 6-3 his first 2 years. He was listed at 6-4 in high school, at least his last 2 years.

Common sense tells you hes 6-2

Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Andrea: and you call Moe a genuine guy when he not only insulted both Bobby and me but also Joe and several others over the years who have not agreed with him. But that should be expected from you because you’re cut from the same cloth. You do the same thing, which is why you accuse me of doing it knowing that you do. Then you go and try to find posts of disagreements I’ve had like that is supposed to be pertinent information in this discussion about Merriman? Lol. Just like Christian said in the Khodjoe argument. If you don’t like someone’s estimate that’s one thing or even the way they estimated multiple celebs, but you make it personal instead just like Rampage said about you.

Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Merriman: knowing how football players are overlisted on college rosters, it’s possible he was 6’2 and listed 6’3, at least when he began his college career at Maryland. Now him growing over the course of his career is unlikely but not unheard of. Nor is the possibility he grew from the time he committed. There’s always a possibility his listing was never changed. However, I did see a 6’4” listing at least a handful of times at Maryland for him and never a 6’2” listing. I can recall 6’3” but it’s been so long I can’t remember exactly what he was officially listed at

Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Andrea: go to Derek Theler’s page on 23 March 2016. That’s where Moe insulted not just me but Bobby and that was the first insult that he made against me and I simply retaliated. It’s funny you don’t mention that but that doesn’t surprise me. Because as Christian and I both said you use any evidence that supports your narrative and conveniently leave out evidence that contradicts it. You can easily tell who started the argument. All I said was that I had a hard time seeing him at that. And it became “nobody cares about your height” and then that. All because I didn’t agree with his 6’6” estimate for Theler. Had I not mentioned it, he likely wouldn’t have argued or even brought it up. And I was justified in my argument back with him. And you’re one to talk because you’ve repeatedly insulted Viper because he doesn’t agree with you and this is even after he even stopped responding to you or mentioning your name in any posts. Oh but no, you don’t realize what an insult is or that you are even doing it because you have been doing it so long to people who don’t agree with you that it is now second nature to you. Please don’t respond back to me. You’re a waste of time to even talk to and a joke.

viper said on 15/Apr/18
No muscular early bloomer like Merriman suddenly grew over an inch at the end of college after being listed at 6-3

viper said on 14/Apr/18
You mean his pro day

Andrea said on 14/Apr/18
Wow, that's all you got? “your bad English, your bad estimating skills”, what a big insult that is. As I said, you're so used to insulting any poster that disagrees with you that you don't even recognize what an insult is anymore. One thing is calling someone's estimates bad, another thing is going personal and insulting people like you often do. Funny how you don't even realize that. Same thing with moe. Sure, I said he lost credibility when he said that Tom Welling looked no more than 6'2 in person, but I've never insulted him. Just like he never insulted you. You did, though. Just because you didn't agree with him, again. I certainly find hard to buy some of his estimates, but to be fair to him, he does seem a genuine guy and certainly a lot more mature than you. How pathetic it is to bring up his job and saying that he's unemployed just because you don't agree with his estimates. You must have a really sad life to do that, constantly. And a lot of issues, of course.
As for the rest, lost cause probably doesn't even cover it...
P.S. Nice English, again! 😊

Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Viper: I think even 6’3 is Better than where he is now but 6’2.5 there is evidence of that since there is a measurement of it at the Senior Bowl.

Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: 😂 you’re one to talk about anything regarding intelligence or excuses when you walk around saying Jamie Foxx wears lifts! You say anything when someone posts something that doesn’t support your narrative. Not to mention you said there was 2cm difference with Khodjoe and Haysbert and 3 with Kobe and Boris when it’s clearly a significant difference between the pics. And then did it again with Shlique Calhoun and Merriman and Wiley and Merriman. You didn’t like the pics that were posted with them initially because they contradicted your narrative so you chose your own and made an excuse why they were for some reason better? 😂 😂 your pathetic!

Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: the same way you told 6’3” “your bad English, your bad estimating skills” and have lashed out at Viper, Christian, me of course, Bennett, and of course Rampage. So don’t continue down this path making things personal (just like rampage said you do and I agree with him). You always do this, however, when you see someone doesn’t agree with you. Wonder why that is?

And me saying what I did to all of the ones you just mentioned (funny how you had to search for all of that), was because they attacked me first. I also saw you Disagreed with Moe “saying he lost credibility” etc. that’s before he and I got into it. All I told him was that I had a hard time seeing him at that height and he began insulting me. So it’s ok for him to insult others because they don’t agree but when I respond back I’m the one in the wrong? But You are just like him tho you do it when someone doesn’t agree with you. And very childish going and looking for stuff others did in the past just like you did on Boris’s page with Christian and me. You are doing that once again here. All over the video that I posted to viper that had nothing to do with how tall Merriman was it was to make a point. And you and your comments back just because you don’t agree with something precipitated this one.

viper said on 12/Apr/18
Makes the most sense for Rob to list him at 6-2 1/2

viper said on 12/Apr/18
Well with Julian Peterson its a specific measurement of 6-5.1

Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Viper: just shows that the data from the site is not always 100% accurate. That could also be the case with Merriman as it was with Darnerian McCants who shows 6040 on Draft Scout but was listed 6’3” his entire professional football career. There are a host of other players that I have seen with similar discrepancies that could be added to that list if we took the time to research.

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Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Andrea: Dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 year old? I think we can agree that I write very well and intelligently. No need to try to insult someone because they don’t agree with you which is what you have done with Rampage, Christian, Viper, and me. Sounds to me like you have your own issues which is why you do that

Canson said on 10/Apr/18
And that is essentially the case here because those pics you posted aren’t the best either. Not saying they’re better or worse than Vipers but they’re not enough to tell he’s a certain height when he can look shorter in several others which he does

Canaon said on 10/Apr/18
Of course they can look 6’2-6’3 if the 30 pics aren’t good pics and the 2-3 are.

viper said on 9/Apr/18
Look at this. Nfldraftscout has 6-3 Julian Peterson at 6-5.1 Click Here

viper said on 9/Apr/18
Johnson is clearly taller

viper said on 8/Apr/18
Looks no taller than 6-2 with 6-2.5 Ben Lever. Click Here

Canson said on 8/Apr/18
@Andrea: if you read my comments since this began I have said he can look multiple ranges. So for every pic you posted supporting your side of the debate, there is one that supports what Viper says. Now Viper is saying under 6’2 that I do not believe. If you remember I actually said he looks 6’3” at times or closer to it based on pics. My point that I’m making to you is that you are accusing me of doing what you’re doing here. Any pics that are posted where he looks under your argument you simply disregard or say there is an issue with the picture. There is not an issue with every pic where he looks 6’2” or 6’3. Everyone else here knows that too. There is not an issue with every pic you posted but some are not good either. That’s a fact because none of these pics is perfect. Of course there are some issues with some of the ones Viper posted and that video that I posted at the Espys was not evidence I was using. It really has no bearing other than to say that Davis doesn’t look 2” taller like Viper is saying. But this all goes back to what I said on Boris’s page to you early on that you make everything about volume. And I’m saying that respectfully. What I mean is that you say that because he looks taller in more pics (in your opinion) that those carry more weight. All I’ve said is that you could have 20 pics that show him as tall as you think and 10 where he isn’t but if those 10 are better pics than most of the 20, the sample you post is not as good. And I’m not saying 20 of yours are bad because I see you arguing that back to me. I’m simply using an example. At the same time not all of them are good at gushing height. And let’s be fair and honest here, this is a debate just like a political debate. Of course you’re going to choose pics that support your narrative which is what most did. That’s what you did. In the large post with all of your pics you don’t post any of Shawn’s (in your opinion) looking 6’2 or 6’3, you chose the ones where he looks 6’3.5+ (in your opinion) regardless of camera angle etc. if you read below I even (beginning of March or so) said on multiple posts back to you that he looks several different heights yet because I don’t agree that he definitively looks 6’3.5 like you think, I’m all of a sudden wrong. I admit with other posters I’ve jumped but only when I feel something is silly. Truly here in this debate nothing is off limits as you said it yourself his measurements are all over the place. Even though you don’t think 6’3 carries weight I think it can since there are pics where he looks 6’3 such as with Marcellus Wiley and also Shilique Calhoun (he actually looks less than 6’3” in one). That’s another example tho because you chose a different pic of them and used the perceived height diff in that pic to definitively say what it was and disregarded the pic of Shilique and Merriman that Viper posted when to be honest there is nothing wrong with the pic. But you disregarded it because it didn’t fit your argument. I’m being respectful to you in this post as well.

And what you said about me hearing or seeing something from encounters is not all true. But sometimes common sense. I actually thought he was closer to his listed height when I saw him but because he wasn’t right in front of me. So I disagreed with Viper on that initially until I saw more pics and asked someone I know who has met him that is honest about his own height and good at judging height

Canson said on 8/Apr/18
@Andrea: thanks for the compliment! You are too!

viper said on 7/Apr/18
A Merriman Hulk Hogan pic would blow up the Universe

Canson said on 7/Apr/18
@Viper: that ones not a great angle. His shoulders actually like higher than Johnson’s. But then again assuming Johnson isn’t lower than that being a morning likely

Andrea said on 6/Apr/18
LOL, you really are hopeless, Canson...

viper said on 5/Apr/18
Canson, how tall go you think he looks with 6-2.7 Spencer Johnson. Click Here

I think he looks just 6-1 there

Canson said on 5/Apr/18
@Viper: hard to tell from that video. People have different proportions so can’t tell if he’s 6’2” or not really

Canson said on 5/Apr/18
@Andrea: lol and that’s exactly what you are doing here once again. You say “I don’t see any pictures where he looks below XYZ”. Then you say that because I don’t see Merriman as taller than Davis in your pics. Then you throw in camera tricks etc. how convenient that you don’t mention that in any pic that Merriman “to you” looks 6’3.5? lol that’s common sense though because you cherry pick and are biased and take whatever supports your narrative for each celeb. You’re a hypocrite as stated before. And at least for me I have been objective here saying that his height looks all over the place but once again if someone doesn’t “agree with you on how someone looks in a pic” all hell breaks loose on the forum. And you’re so sure of yourself too. Quite funny with Marcellus Wiley three other people have said Merriman looks at best 6’3” yet you say “on authority” that he is not. Instead, you “cherry pick” a different picture where he does look taller than Wiley and say that the pic that was posted first is no good because it doesn’t support your narrative. So really let’s cut the crap, Andrea

My pics are at a disadvantage? Yours really aren’t better. The only reason that you say they are is because you can see footwear which in some pics with certain celebs appear to be the only ones available which is what a handful of other posters do when it comes down to a pic with no ground footwear etc vs a pic with all of it shown even if there is a poor angle of the camera or if someone is leaning and that pic is used as evidence all of a sudden. So you don’t say anything about Viper’s pic that he posted (regardless of not seeing footwear etc) but yours where Davis is leaning very clearly is a good pic. And the video I posted of them at the Espys was actually not meant to say that Merriman is only this or that. Viper initially said that Davis is 2” taller and I happened to find the video and I actually disagreed with him. All I said was my opinion that the diff would be at most an inch or that they would be similar in height with one another not 2” like Viper said. Yet you’re attacking me because I posted it? It was a simple response because Viper said before “I posted pics back about 10 years ago that Davis edged Merriman by 2”. I found the pics and simply said how I felt which was disagreeing with him on it being a 2” diff

viper said on 4/Apr/18
He looks 6-2 physically here Click Here

viper said on 3/Apr/18
I'm starting to compare shoe sizes from these pics. Merrimans look the same as Tom Brady's size 12's. You can tell Boris's are at least 13.

Canson said on 3/Apr/18
@Viper: thank you for at least conducting yourself professionally and not pouting or ridiculing when someone doesn’t agree with you or support your narrative!

Canson said on 3/Apr/18
@Viper: It’s tough to tell from the angle but I would doubt at worst that He’s shorter than Merriman is

Canson said on 2/Apr/18
@Viper: one thing I will say is from the buddy who actually stood face to face that person said about 6’2ish which is similar to how you saw him. Then again I was a couple hundred feet away and really didn’t make anything of it. Assumed he as around my height and my 6’3 friend’s. My guess is he doesn’t dip below 6’2” if he’s that low at all.

viper said on 2/Apr/18
I wonder If 6-2 measured Junior Seau told people he was 6-5 in high school when he was listed as that

viper said on 2/Apr/18
Early muscular bloomers like Merriman and Rock peaked in height at 14, and no later than 15.

Reminds me of the 2 oldest guys in my high school who peaked at 14 and were big dudes, the one being a runningback. They looked 30 at 16, and still look about the same now at 37.

Both Rock and Merriman looked old in high school

Andrea said on 2/Apr/18
Whatever you say, Canson. After your last comments, I'm honestly done talking to you. You have no clue about camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions (my pictures are not better than that clip... really?) and you regularly accuse people of making excuses whenever you don't understand these things. I don't want to start another endless debate, though, so let's just end this here. From now on, I'll just ignore any comment of yours...
Goodbye Canson!

Canson said on 2/Apr/18
@Andrea: you’re wrong. Davis is clearly standing worse with LT than Merriman. The picture Viper posted where he enhanced Merriman is standing perfectly with LT while Davis is leaning like he has in many of the other pics. The difference in the pic Viper posted is clearly around a 4” difference with Merriman and LT. maybe it’s 4-4.5” but not higher than that

viper said on 2/Apr/18
It's amazing how other actors say Tom Welling is 6-5 lol. I'm still unsure on his height.

viper said on 1/Apr/18
Obviously it's not the best camera angle favoring Vernon, but you can still easily tell he's taller. You can also tell Merrimans eyes are looking UP at Vernon no question

Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Viper: assuming the Rock is still a full 6’2 (he may be under by a hair) Merriman doesn’t have more than maybe 1/2” or 2cm on him but that’s still gonna put Merriman at at least 6’2 maybe even 189cm

Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Viper: I’d have a hard time seeing him measure only 6’1.5-.7. A 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl even if that were morning would make him around 6’2-6’2.25 range. It’s difficult to see him less than that to be honest. And to have the audacity to say he’s 6’5 lol. But it’s difficult to see him any higher than maybe 6’2.5-6’3 at the same time. When you met him he may not have been standing his tallest or maybe someone had an advantage or disadvantage with footwear. But I’d be hard pressed to see him less than 6’2