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6ft 2.82in (190cm)
6ft 2.82in (190cm)
viper said on 22/Nov/18
Rob, I've seen him up close. He looked 6-1.5-6-2.
Nobody thought Shannon Sharpe was under 6-2.
Rob, I've seen him up close. He looked 6-1.5-6-2.
Nobody thought Shannon Sharpe was under 6-2.
viper said on 22/Nov/18
Rob, how can you not go that low when he was measured 6-2 at his pro day
Editor Rob
Rob, how can you not go that low when he was measured 6-2 at his pro day
Editor RobThere's still the conflicting reports about that. You can find he was reported as 6ft 4 3/8ths from that event and some reporting he came in a couple of pounds heavier at 274.
Canson said on 22/Nov/18
@Viper: there’s no way that he’s losing 4” with Brees. And Booger McFarland claimed Brees is only 5’10”. Although He can look that sometimes, I don’t believe he’s that short either. Either way if Brees is 5’11-6’, he would be 6’2 tops
@Viper: there’s no way that he’s losing 4” with Brees. And Booger McFarland claimed Brees is only 5’10”. Although He can look that sometimes, I don’t believe he’s that short either. Either way if Brees is 5’11-6’, he would be 6’2 tops
viper said on 22/Nov/18
It's high time Rob downgrades him to
6-2.5, when he's not even that tall.
It's high time Rob downgrades him to
6-2.5, when he's not even that tall.
viper said on 22/Nov/18
That is such an easy 4 inches between Merriman and Bennett
That is such an easy 4 inches between Merriman and Bennett
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Christian: another variable is where they were standing. If the grass isn’t even or if one had a footwear advantage as well as the distance in which they were standing from the person observing. If Merriman really were close to 6’4 like the poster is saying then it would mean that Bennett is near 6’8 when he measured practically 6’6” in the morning or even 6’7 if we go with what Rob says is only 3”. That definitely looks at least 3.5” as you Viper and even Rising who has plenty of credibility even said. Even if 3.5 it would still put Merriman around his Draftscout listing of 6’2.4. Maybe he’d end up 6’2 5/8 which is possible if his Pro Day were 6’2.4 since the combine is held a bit earlier.
@Christian: another variable is where they were standing. If the grass isn’t even or if one had a footwear advantage as well as the distance in which they were standing from the person observing. If Merriman really were close to 6’4 like the poster is saying then it would mean that Bennett is near 6’8 when he measured practically 6’6” in the morning or even 6’7 if we go with what Rob says is only 3”. That definitely looks at least 3.5” as you Viper and even Rising who has plenty of credibility even said. Even if 3.5 it would still put Merriman around his Draftscout listing of 6’2.4. Maybe he’d end up 6’2 5/8 which is possible if his Pro Day were 6’2.4 since the combine is held a bit earlier.
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Christian: another variable is where they were standing. If the grass isn’t even or if one had a footwear advantage as well as the distance in which they were standing from the person observing. If Merriman really were close to 6’4 like the poster is saying then it would mean that Bennett is near 6’8 when he measured practically 6’6” in the morning or even 6’7 if we go with what Rob says is only 3”. That definitely looks at least 3.5” as you Viper and even Rising who has plenty of credibility even said
@Christian: another variable is where they were standing. If the grass isn’t even or if one had a footwear advantage as well as the distance in which they were standing from the person observing. If Merriman really were close to 6’4 like the poster is saying then it would mean that Bennett is near 6’8 when he measured practically 6’6” in the morning or even 6’7 if we go with what Rob says is only 3”. That definitely looks at least 3.5” as you Viper and even Rising who has plenty of credibility even said
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Viper: the barefoot comparison is the best. But he has a 6’2.4 measurement as well. That 6’2.4 is probably his real measurement. Maybe he’s 6’2 at his low like Rudy Gay said or near it. But that lady saying that isn’t really saying much. She may be bad at estimating height or may believe a 6’2 guy is 6’4 or may have assumed he was really 6’5 or more
@Viper: the barefoot comparison is the best. But he has a 6’2.4 measurement as well. That 6’2.4 is probably his real measurement. Maybe he’s 6’2 at his low like Rudy Gay said or near it. But that lady saying that isn’t really saying much. She may be bad at estimating height or may believe a 6’2 guy is 6’4 or may have assumed he was really 6’5 or more
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Rob: Christian has a point. He would still look around 6’4” if he were truly measured at that. All signs point to the 6’2.4 from Draft Scout being his actual measurement. Just like you pointed out that one time, 5111 was read as 5113. 6023 may have been read as 6043 since the 6’2.4 from Draftscout may have been 6’2 3/8 even. I say that because there are .8 and .9 measurements On draftscout. But Maybe it isn’t really a 4” difference but 3.5ish but even 6’3.5 is very high. I still remember the Instagram post where he joked about socks and someone even responded back 6’3 when he said he was 6’5. This was a response to his video that he posted of him being 6’5” (where he negotiated with the woman to make him 6’5).
@Rob: Christian has a point. He would still look around 6’4” if he were truly measured at that. All signs point to the 6’2.4 from Draft Scout being his actual measurement. Just like you pointed out that one time, 5111 was read as 5113. 6023 may have been read as 6043 since the 6’2.4 from Draftscout may have been 6’2 3/8 even. I say that because there are .8 and .9 measurements On draftscout. But Maybe it isn’t really a 4” difference but 3.5ish but even 6’3.5 is very high. I still remember the Instagram post where he joked about socks and someone even responded back 6’3 when he said he was 6’5. This was a response to his video that he posted of him being 6’5” (where he negotiated with the woman to make him 6’5).
viper said on 21/Nov/18
Merriman was measured 6-2 at his pro day, yet I don't understand why Rob doesn't see it.
Merriman was measured 6-2 at his pro day, yet I don't understand why Rob doesn't see it.
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Rob: maybe a solid 6’3. even if that is only a 3” difference between the two, a guy 6’6.1 would be 6’5 3/4” at a low given when he was measured thus making Merriman 6’2 3/4 at a low which is slightly below 6’3-6’4 zone. But even if he is 6’3-6’4 that makes little sense after he “allegedly” measured 6’4 3/8. He would likely be a solid 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 which for all intents and purposes is right at 6’4” (close enough to where it’s not even worth saying 6’3/6’4)
@Rob: maybe a solid 6’3. even if that is only a 3” difference between the two, a guy 6’6.1 would be 6’5 3/4” at a low given when he was measured thus making Merriman 6’2 3/4 at a low which is slightly below 6’3-6’4 zone. But even if he is 6’3-6’4 that makes little sense after he “allegedly” measured 6’4 3/8. He would likely be a solid 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 which for all intents and purposes is right at 6’4” (close enough to where it’s not even worth saying 6’3/6’4)
viper said on 21/Nov/18
Rob you know it's high time he's downgraded to 6-2.5, when he's not even that tall.
Editor Rob
Rob you know it's high time he's downgraded to 6-2.5, when he's not even that tall.
Editor RobI wouldn't go that low, but I could see somewhere in 6ft 3 range as not an impossibility.
Canson said on 20/Nov/18
@184guy: imho if Rob is right about a 3” difference instead of 4”, I could see him measuring 6’3 1/8 perhaps since Bennett measured 6’6 1/8” but even then it would make him 6’2.75 or 6’2 5/8 at a low since the combine is early morning. I too would believe a 6’3.25 or more specifically a 6’3” flat listing before I believed that he were 6’4”.
@184guy: imho if Rob is right about a 3” difference instead of 4”, I could see him measuring 6’3 1/8 perhaps since Bennett measured 6’6 1/8” but even then it would make him 6’2.75 or 6’2 5/8 at a low since the combine is early morning. I too would believe a 6’3.25 or more specifically a 6’3” flat listing before I believed that he were 6’4”.
viper said on 20/Nov/18
Vlakit, how do you explain 6-6 Martellus Bennett with 4 inches on Merriman, both barefoot. Merriman with perfect posture and Bennett loose posture. Click Here
I can. Merriman was measured 6-2 at his pro day.
Vlakit, how do you explain 6-6 Martellus Bennett with 4 inches on Merriman, both barefoot. Merriman with perfect posture and Bennett loose posture. Click Here
I can. Merriman was measured 6-2 at his pro day.
viper said on 20/Nov/18
Listed 6-3 in college and measured 6-2 at his pro day. I just don't understand how Rob doesn't see it
Listed 6-3 in college and measured 6-2 at his pro day. I just don't understand how Rob doesn't see it
viper said on 20/Nov/18
Rob, he's not even 6-2.5
Rob, he's not even 6-2.5
viper said on 20/Nov/18
Vlakit, I've seen Merriman 5 feet away from me and he looked 6-1.5-6-2
Vlakit, I've seen Merriman 5 feet away from me and he looked 6-1.5-6-2
Canson said on 20/Nov/18
@Vlakit: Viper also saw him in person and claimed even before the video came out that he was 6’2”. Coincidentally, he looks the same height in the video as Viper provided in his estimate years ago.
@Vlakit: Viper also saw him in person and claimed even before the video came out that he was 6’2”. Coincidentally, he looks the same height in the video as Viper provided in his estimate years ago.
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 20/Nov/18
@Rob
Why do you think that even 6'3.5" is too low of a listing for Merriman?
Editor Rob
@Rob
Why do you think that even 6'3.5" is too low of a listing for Merriman?
Editor RobI think 6ft 3 and a half is a possible, but it would mean the 6ft 4 range measurements were inflated. Maybe there is truth in his instagram measurement, it's just with sneakers on.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18
@Vlakit
Merriman simply looking 3"-4" taller than Liddell doesn't prove Merriman was 6'4" though.
@Vlakit
Merriman simply looking 3"-4" taller than Liddell doesn't prove Merriman was 6'4" though.
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
In the video and in the pic Christian posted from the video, Merriman doesn’t have loose posture. It’s very much the same as Bennett’s at times. And as Rising mentioned, Bennett’s looks looser than Merriman’s for parts of it. Merriman is just an entire forehead shorter or very close to it even with the camera angle taken into account. I don’t find it hard to believe that he isn’t really 6’4 as other players have been overlisted before with the NFL
In the video and in the pic Christian posted from the video, Merriman doesn’t have loose posture. It’s very much the same as Bennett’s at times. And as Rising mentioned, Bennett’s looks looser than Merriman’s for parts of it. Merriman is just an entire forehead shorter or very close to it even with the camera angle taken into account. I don’t find it hard to believe that he isn’t really 6’4 as other players have been overlisted before with the NFL
viper said on 19/Nov/18
Rob, there are mismeasuremnts in the NFL all the time.
Aaron Hernandez was 6-1 yet he supposedly measured over 6-2, which he didn't.
Editor Rob
Rob, there are mismeasuremnts in the NFL all the time.
Aaron Hernandez was 6-1 yet he supposedly measured over 6-2, which he didn't.
Editor RobThere's certainly some rounding happening, maybe in rare cases they have a gentleman's agreement to alter a listing for whatever purpose.
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Rob: to Viper’s credit, we saw ourselves with Steve Young where he’s listed 6’2 and is only 6’0”. Aaron hernandez supposedly measured 6’2” and change yet he’s 6’1 listed in the league. Viper also posted another player who was supposed to have measured 6’5.1 but is only 6’3 in reality. Even if we went with Bennett’s early morning listing he’s 6’6.1 and only said a 3.5” difference which it may actually be closer to (I’d go with 3.75) then it just about lines up to where Merriman measures at the pro day 6’2.4. A 6’2.5 or 6’2 5/8 is even more plausible than 6’4. No chance that he’s that tall and you even said he never looks 6’4”. A guy measuring 6’4 3/8 will not measure that much below 6’4 later in the day if at all. You see Tom brady measured the same yet I would bet money he’s taller than merriman. Worst case if he shrunk more than average he may be something like 6’3.75 at a low but really 6’3 7/8 is where I would draw the line if he measures 6’4 3/8 at some point. It’s more than likely that they messed up the measurement and he’s really not that tall. He’s likely just 6’2 3/8 early morning
Editor Rob
@Rob: to Viper’s credit, we saw ourselves with Steve Young where he’s listed 6’2 and is only 6’0”. Aaron hernandez supposedly measured 6’2” and change yet he’s 6’1 listed in the league. Viper also posted another player who was supposed to have measured 6’5.1 but is only 6’3 in reality. Even if we went with Bennett’s early morning listing he’s 6’6.1 and only said a 3.5” difference which it may actually be closer to (I’d go with 3.75) then it just about lines up to where Merriman measures at the pro day 6’2.4. A 6’2.5 or 6’2 5/8 is even more plausible than 6’4. No chance that he’s that tall and you even said he never looks 6’4”. A guy measuring 6’4 3/8 will not measure that much below 6’4 later in the day if at all. You see Tom brady measured the same yet I would bet money he’s taller than merriman. Worst case if he shrunk more than average he may be something like 6’3.75 at a low but really 6’3 7/8 is where I would draw the line if he measures 6’4 3/8 at some point. It’s more than likely that they messed up the measurement and he’s really not that tall. He’s likely just 6’2 3/8 early morning
Editor RobIt's not impossible that the truth is somewhere in 6ft 3-4 zone, though I cannot see the 6ft 2.5 as being more likely (overall). I'm sure sometimes he looks that short.
184guy2 said on 19/Nov/18
Not sure on 6'2 , but certainly not over 6'3.25
Not sure on 6'2 , but certainly not over 6'3.25
Vlakit said on 19/Nov/18
I was in the very front row at the chargers game and I saw Sean merriman and chuck Liddell right in front of me next to the chargers bench. Merriman was easily 3-4 taller then chuck Liddell!
@rob your listing is perfect for both of them please tell some of these people that think he’s 6’2 that they are out of there mind
I was in the very front row at the chargers game and I saw Sean merriman and chuck Liddell right in front of me next to the chargers bench. Merriman was easily 3-4 taller then chuck Liddell!
@rob your listing is perfect for both of them please tell some of these people that think he’s 6’2 that they are out of there mind
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Viper: how tall do you think Rudy Gay is? You believe 6’7” or 6’6.5 perhaps?
@Viper: how tall do you think Rudy Gay is? You believe 6’7” or 6’6.5 perhaps?
viper said on 18/Nov/18
Rob, I think you do a great overall job with this site and most of the listings are accurate. But this is so off it's hard to believe on a credible site like this.
The guy was listed 6-3 in college. He looks 4 inches shorter than a 6-6.1 early morning combine measurement NFL player. Both guys are barefoot. It doesn't get any better than that.
6-3 listing and looking 6-2 with a barely 6-6 guy both BAREFOOT. Not to mention the fact NFL.com has him at 6-2 and couchscout has him at 6-2.4.
It adds completely up. It's not a coincidence
Editor Rob
Rob, I think you do a great overall job with this site and most of the listings are accurate. But this is so off it's hard to believe on a credible site like this.
The guy was listed 6-3 in college. He looks 4 inches shorter than a 6-6.1 early morning combine measurement NFL player. Both guys are barefoot. It doesn't get any better than that.
6-3 listing and looking 6-2 with a barely 6-6 guy both BAREFOOT. Not to mention the fact NFL.com has him at 6-2 and couchscout has him at 6-2.4.
It adds completely up. It's not a coincidence
Editor RobThe video is wide angle and when he looks 4 inches smaller he's further away, so I'm not sure what the true difference is. He's a natural loose-postured man, more than half the time he never looks as tall as 6ft 4. If Merriman was really measured 6ft 2 and a half, then changed it by 2 inches then it calls into doubt a lot of stats on record.
viper said on 18/Nov/18
The video should be taken down as well, since we can not see his feet. Of course he's not going to show his feet because he's nowhere close to 6-4.
And you want to know how off stadiometers can be at the doctor's office. I was measured 5-10 once being 6-3!! The nurse was bewildered saying how can that be when you are so tall. I got back on it again and measured about the mark I am. How she undermeasured me that much I don't understand.
When I was 6-0 in high school I was measured 6-1. So they over measured me there.
The video should be taken down as well, since we can not see his feet. Of course he's not going to show his feet because he's nowhere close to 6-4.
And you want to know how off stadiometers can be at the doctor's office. I was measured 5-10 once being 6-3!! The nurse was bewildered saying how can that be when you are so tall. I got back on it again and measured about the mark I am. How she undermeasured me that much I don't understand.
When I was 6-0 in high school I was measured 6-1. So they over measured me there.
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Christian: your comparison on 16 Nov was great! this is definitely not how a 6’4 guy is gonna look next to a weak 6’6”. I look nothing like that next to my solid 6’6” friend let alone even my 6’7” friend
@Christian: your comparison on 16 Nov was great! this is definitely not how a 6’4 guy is gonna look next to a weak 6’6”. I look nothing like that next to my solid 6’6” friend let alone even my 6’7” friend
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
Rising those are excellent points you made about head size and Bennett having looser posture at times
Rising those are excellent points you made about head size and Bennett having looser posture at times
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
Bennett is not 6’7”. That’s a shoe height
Bennett is not 6’7”. That’s a shoe height
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Rising: I completely agree. I think even if not 6’2.5 and Rob says 3” I would at absolute minimum line him up to where Bennett Measured at the combine so 6’6.1 then 6’3 or 6’3 1/8. It does look 4 but I also mentioned 3.5-4 possibly as camera could’ve been impacted
@Rising: I completely agree. I think even if not 6’2.5 and Rob says 3” I would at absolute minimum line him up to where Bennett Measured at the combine so 6’6.1 then 6’3 or 6’3 1/8. It does look 4 but I also mentioned 3.5-4 possibly as camera could’ve been impacted
viper said on 18/Nov/18
Rob, it was more than 4 inches when Bennett got closer to the camera.
And Bennett is barely 6-6.
Rob, it was more than 4 inches when Bennett got closer to the camera.
And Bennett is barely 6-6.
viper said on 17/Nov/18
That's a bigger height difference than I have on my 6-0 dad that's for sure
That's a bigger height difference than I have on my 6-0 dad that's for sure
viper said on 17/Nov/18
Rob, it's time for a downgrade to 6-2.5
Rob, it's time for a downgrade to 6-2.5
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
@Rob: he looked no more than 6’2” really. The guy measured 6’6.1 and 6’5.8
Editor Rob
@Rob: he looked no more than 6’2” really. The guy measured 6’6.1 and 6’5.8
Editor RobI wouldn't have guessed that low, but 6ft 3 I could see just from the clip. All those wider shots are favouring Bennett, how much is harder to tell.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
Even just a 3" difference would mean Merriman looks closer to the average guess or his 6'3" college listing than 6'4" or even 6'3.5". My own guess had been nothing over 6'2.5" in that video because I was unsure of the camera as Canson mentioned, but there were times such as the screenshots I took where Bennett's posture seemed looser and in the first and 3rd their head size didn't really indicate a big camera advantage as far as I could tell. Just my opinion anyway.
Even just a 3" difference would mean Merriman looks closer to the average guess or his 6'3" college listing than 6'4" or even 6'3.5". My own guess had been nothing over 6'2.5" in that video because I was unsure of the camera as Canson mentioned, but there were times such as the screenshots I took where Bennett's posture seemed looser and in the first and 3rd their head size didn't really indicate a big camera advantage as far as I could tell. Just my opinion anyway.
viper said on 16/Nov/18
At most Rob needs to downgrade him to the 6-2.4 couchscout listing.
But preferably 6-2.
At most Rob needs to downgrade him to the 6-2.4 couchscout listing.
But preferably 6-2.
Canson said on 16/Nov/18
@Christian: agreed. This is one of the worst. Even if we used Bennett’s 6’6.1 (he has a 6’5.8 like Viper pointed out too), Merriman should be max 6’2 1/2 (which is generous) maybe but really 6’2.25. He likely isn’t over a flat 6’2 best case
@Christian: agreed. This is one of the worst. Even if we used Bennett’s 6’6.1 (he has a 6’5.8 like Viper pointed out too), Merriman should be max 6’2 1/2 (which is generous) maybe but really 6’2.25. He likely isn’t over a flat 6’2 best case
viper said on 16/Nov/18
Rob, that's an easy 4 inches.
And even If it were just 3, still puts Merriman under 6-3.
Editor Rob
Rob, that's an easy 4 inches.
And even If it were just 3, still puts Merriman under 6-3.
Editor RobI'm not sure, Bennett (he's pushed his own claim as high as 6ft 7 before!) was nearer the camera at the point he looked tallest.
Canson said on 16/Nov/18
@Viper: even there Demarcus Ware shows the exact same as he did on his combine measurement which leads me to believe that that could’ve been a morning measurement as well but I did notice Jason Witten is 6050 on there and not almost 6’6”
@Viper: even there Demarcus Ware shows the exact same as he did on his combine measurement which leads me to believe that that could’ve been a morning measurement as well but I did notice Jason Witten is 6050 on there and not almost 6’6”
Canson said on 16/Nov/18
@Rob: that’s definitely closer to 4” not 3. Even 3.5 would be reasonable. If Bennett is 6’6 1/8 combine listing Merriman 6’2 1/2 would be even be more adequate. Even though we know that Bennett was measured in the morning but it’s in keeping with how you have other football players. Merriman measuring 6’2 3/8” is very likely scenario which would make that 3.75”
Editor Rob
@Rob: that’s definitely closer to 4” not 3. Even 3.5 would be reasonable. If Bennett is 6’6 1/8 combine listing Merriman 6’2 1/2 would be even be more adequate. Even though we know that Bennett was measured in the morning but it’s in keeping with how you have other football players. Merriman measuring 6’2 3/8” is very likely scenario which would make that 3.75”
Editor RobI could see how he looked no more than 6ft 3 in the clip, but whether it was great for comparison is difficult to say...certainly another bit to the argument against Shawne being as tall as he claimed.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Nov/18
@Rob
3" is undercutting it. That taller guy looked at least 3.5" taller. Click Here
@viper
We don't know how tall that kid is so we don't have any reference. That's not a good comparison.
@Rob
3" is undercutting it. That taller guy looked at least 3.5" taller. Click Here
@viper
We don't know how tall that kid is so we don't have any reference. That's not a good comparison.
Canson said on 15/Nov/18
I think the video that Viper posted needs to be highlighted in the description. That same sort of “picture” was referenced on Trump’s page saying when he stood next to a 6’2” athlete
Editor Rob
I think the video that Viper posted needs to be highlighted in the description. That same sort of “picture” was referenced on Trump’s page saying when he stood next to a 6’2” athlete
Editor RobI would have said the taller guy was around 3 inches taller, from what footage there was.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Nov/18
Shawne should NOT still be listed 6'4" here. This is easily one of the worst listings on this site.
@viper
While I don't think that his video measurement was fake, it was very likely that he was measured 6'4.25" in shoes in the morning and that got rounded up to 6'4.5". The video would've been much clearer had the stadiometer's scale was being shown.
Shawne should NOT still be listed 6'4" here. This is easily one of the worst listings on this site.
@viper
While I don't think that his video measurement was fake, it was very likely that he was measured 6'4.25" in shoes in the morning and that got rounded up to 6'4.5". The video would've been much clearer had the stadiometer's scale was being shown.
Canson said on 15/Nov/18
@Viper: I agree with Rob that that is evidence. However, the video you posted is the best evidence of any here and Shawne is clearly not 6’4 let alone 6’3”
@Rob: you should consider the video as that is very persuasive evidence that Merriman is overlisted
@Viper: I agree with Rob that that is evidence. However, the video you posted is the best evidence of any here and Shawne is clearly not 6’4 let alone 6’3”
@Rob: you should consider the video as that is very persuasive evidence that Merriman is overlisted
viper said on 14/Nov/18
Why is the whole focal point of that video getting measured when you are sick? Lol
Why is the whole focal point of that video getting measured when you are sick? Lol
viper said on 14/Nov/18
Should the video measurement be taken down?
Editor Rob
Should the video measurement be taken down?
Editor RobIf it is a lie or not, it's best left mentioned, as that's what he was willing to claim was a measurement.
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Viper: I leave 3.5” or maybe 3.75 if there is something up with the camera angle. At one point during the video it could look a bit under 4” but I agree that it’s 4” for most of it even a bit over 4 at one point perhaps
@Viper: I leave 3.5” or maybe 3.75 if there is something up with the camera angle. At one point during the video it could look a bit under 4” but I agree that it’s 4” for most of it even a bit over 4 at one point perhaps
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Rob Paul: I think Viper has made the point now. No chance Merriman is really 6’4” or even 6’3 based on that video. Even if you went with the 6’6 1/8 measurement for Bennett, Merriman would come out no higher than around his Pro Day of 6’2.4. Not to mention both guys are barefoot. I’d say Viper saying a downgrade to 6’2.5 (which I also had him at) is still generous for Merriman since that looks closer to 4” for the meat and potatoes of the video
@Rob Paul: I think Viper has made the point now. No chance Merriman is really 6’4” or even 6’3 based on that video. Even if you went with the 6’6 1/8 measurement for Bennett, Merriman would come out no higher than around his Pro Day of 6’2.4. Not to mention both guys are barefoot. I’d say Viper saying a downgrade to 6’2.5 (which I also had him at) is still generous for Merriman since that looks closer to 4” for the meat and potatoes of the video
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Rob Paul: I think Viper has made the point now. No chance Merriman is really 6’4” or even 6’3 based on that video. Even if you went with the 6’6 1/8 measurement for Bennett, Merriman would come out no higher than around his Pro Day of 6’2.4. Not to mention both guys are barefoot. I’d say Viper saying a downgrade to 6’2.5 (which I also had him at) is still generous for Merriman
@Rob Paul: I think Viper has made the point now. No chance Merriman is really 6’4” or even 6’3 based on that video. Even if you went with the 6’6 1/8 measurement for Bennett, Merriman would come out no higher than around his Pro Day of 6’2.4. Not to mention both guys are barefoot. I’d say Viper saying a downgrade to 6’2.5 (which I also had him at) is still generous for Merriman
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Rising: well said! Yep I’ve seen you do the same. This was also a good gauge due to proximity and both being barefoot. As for the difference, I actually see 4” for most of the video but maybe for a hot second 3.5”. Id say based on this that Merriman could’ve actually been 6’2 3/8” for the combine as opposed to 6’4 3/8. As Viper mentioned he measured 6’2.4 at the Pro Day. All that said, it would put him around 6’2 perhaps even as low as Viper saw him (6’1.75) if Bennett dips from 6’6.1 to 6’5 5/8 or 3/4 like he would from the combine. That’s based on the difference between them. Suffice to say based on this, Viper actually proved you right when you said earlier that sometimes the unpopular vote is the one that wins. Even at a solid 6’2” that’s still closer to what he guessed vs anyone else
@Rising: well said! Yep I’ve seen you do the same. This was also a good gauge due to proximity and both being barefoot. As for the difference, I actually see 4” for most of the video but maybe for a hot second 3.5”. Id say based on this that Merriman could’ve actually been 6’2 3/8” for the combine as opposed to 6’4 3/8. As Viper mentioned he measured 6’2.4 at the Pro Day. All that said, it would put him around 6’2 perhaps even as low as Viper saw him (6’1.75) if Bennett dips from 6’6.1 to 6’5 5/8 or 3/4 like he would from the combine. That’s based on the difference between them. Suffice to say based on this, Viper actually proved you right when you said earlier that sometimes the unpopular vote is the one that wins. Even at a solid 6’2” that’s still closer to what he guessed vs anyone else
viper said on 14/Nov/18
Rob can you downgrade Merriman to 6-2.5 now. It's obvious
Rob can you downgrade Merriman to 6-2.5 now. It's obvious
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Viper: if that’s accurate it shows that Barkley and Khodjoe aren’t as tall as they’re listed here which I suspected all along. I had Barkley 6’4.5 peak but looks 6’4/6’4.5 there tops and Boris next to them could barely look 6’3 or max 6’3
@Viper: if that’s accurate it shows that Barkley and Khodjoe aren’t as tall as they’re listed here which I suspected all along. I had Barkley 6’4.5 peak but looks 6’4/6’4.5 there tops and Boris next to them could barely look 6’3 or max 6’3
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Nov/18
@Canson: I know what you mean. Sometimes I'll ask others opinions before stating my own when I post something significant. @viper: These are screenshots of the main part I based my opinion on: Click Here Conservatively, I wouldn't argue with the 3.5" Christian mentioned or the 3.5"-4" range Canson said either, but in the first and 3rd stills in particular, I see more 4" than 3.5" honestly.
@Canson: I know what you mean. Sometimes I'll ask others opinions before stating my own when I post something significant. @viper: These are screenshots of the main part I based my opinion on: Click Here Conservatively, I wouldn't argue with the 3.5" Christian mentioned or the 3.5"-4" range Canson said either, but in the first and 3rd stills in particular, I see more 4" than 3.5" honestly.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18
@Canson
I said 3.5" but I was being pretty generous. The difference looks closer to 4" like Rising and Viper said.
@Canson
I said 3.5" but I was being pretty generous. The difference looks closer to 4" like Rising and Viper said.
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: I agree on Melo and Bosh. I wouldn’t go under 6’6 or 6’10” for either. I think with Melo that Merriman looks around 6’2”. But with the video, you and Christian guessed it just how Viper and I did. I wanted two other sets of eyes because I felt that this was by far the best indicator (credit to Viper for posting it) since Merriman is barefoot here (as is Bennett)
@Rising: I agree on Melo and Bosh. I wouldn’t go under 6’6 or 6’10” for either. I think with Melo that Merriman looks around 6’2”. But with the video, you and Christian guessed it just how Viper and I did. I wanted two other sets of eyes because I felt that this was by far the best indicator (credit to Viper for posting it) since Merriman is barefoot here (as is Bennett)
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: i dont rule out 6’2 now honestly
The 6065 could be a measurement in cleats previously. That does about line up with how he would measure barefoot at his low
@Rising: i dont rule out 6’2 now honestly
The 6065 could be a measurement in cleats previously. That does about line up with how he would measure barefoot at his low
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: i dont rule out 6’2 now honestly
@Rising: i dont rule out 6’2 now honestly
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
I agree with all three of you. He does look 3.5 and 4 at times. It surely isn’t less and this tells me that he’s not over 6’2 range. @Christian: I wonder if Bennett hits 6’5 5/8 from his combine height.
I agree with all three of you. He does look 3.5 and 4 at times. It surely isn’t less and this tells me that he’s not over 6’2 range. @Christian: I wonder if Bennett hits 6’5 5/8 from his combine height.
viper said on 13/Nov/18
During the parts I could estimate, I would have guessed Merriman about 4" shorter, but I could easily be wrong.
No you are definitely right.
During the parts I could estimate, I would have guessed Merriman about 4" shorter, but I could easily be wrong.
No you are definitely right.
viper said on 13/Nov/18
That's as good as it gets. Both are barefoot
That's as good as it gets. Both are barefoot
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/18
@Canson
I see an easy 3.5" difference between Merriman and Bennett in that clip. If Bennett's 6'5.75", that makes Merriman look max 6'2.25"
@Canson
I see an easy 3.5" difference between Merriman and Bennett in that clip. If Bennett's 6'5.75", that makes Merriman look max 6'2.25"
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Look at the 2:09 mark
Look at the 2:09 mark
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Bennet is the same height as Anthony Joshua, and they both look the same as The Rock did with Anthony Joshua in the ring.
Bennet is the same height as Anthony Joshua, and they both look the same as The Rock did with Anthony Joshua in the ring.
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Nov/18
@Canson: Merriman looks quite a bit shorter in that video. During the parts I could estimate, I would have guessed Merriman about 4" shorter, but I could easily be wrong. I remember the Kemp photo and Merriman with his hat looked to reach Kemp's eyes, but Kemp looked to be leaning more. Kemp was supposed to have measured 6'8.75" pre-draft. As for Melo, I think since you saw him a solid 6'6" in person, it's more likely he was simply measured when he was up for a long enough time to be closer to his low than high and was full grown by 19. Bosh's 6'10.25" also looks pretty believable from that class, imo.
@Canson: Merriman looks quite a bit shorter in that video. During the parts I could estimate, I would have guessed Merriman about 4" shorter, but I could easily be wrong. I remember the Kemp photo and Merriman with his hat looked to reach Kemp's eyes, but Kemp looked to be leaning more. Kemp was supposed to have measured 6'8.75" pre-draft. As for Melo, I think since you saw him a solid 6'6" in person, it's more likely he was simply measured when he was up for a long enough time to be closer to his low than high and was full grown by 19. Bosh's 6'10.25" also looks pretty believable from that class, imo.
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Canson I really doubt he's has high as 6-2.5
But he should be downgraded to at least that
Canson I really doubt he's has high as 6-2.5
But he should be downgraded to at least that
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Lol that video ends any doubt that he's nowhere near 6-3 or 6-4
Look at the 3:02 mark right when it cuts to another frame. Easy 4 inch difference and Bennet is under 6-6.
Merriman looks what I saw him in person.
Lol that video ends any doubt that he's nowhere near 6-3 or 6-4
Look at the 3:02 mark right when it cuts to another frame. Easy 4 inch difference and Bennet is under 6-6.
Merriman looks what I saw him in person.
viper said on 12/Nov/18
The 6065 was just put there when he was in college. It doesn't mean anything
Any college player you see on draftscout is not a real measurement
The 6065 was just put there when he was in college. It doesn't mean anything
Any college player you see on draftscout is not a real measurement
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Viper: check out Bennett’s combine listing. What does the note about 6065 before the combine mean? Just curious. I wonder if that’s a Pro Day or Senior Bowl listing but the combine is usually held early morning so surprised he has a higher measurment elsewhere. I would’ve thought he would measure out around 6’5.75 or 6’5 5/8 if he measured that at the combine
Click Here
@Rising and Christian: how much height difference do you see in the video here? This is good when both are hitting the bag because they close to each other and both are standing barefoot.
Click Here
@Viper: check out Bennett’s combine listing. What does the note about 6065 before the combine mean? Just curious. I wonder if that’s a Pro Day or Senior Bowl listing but the combine is usually held early morning so surprised he has a higher measurment elsewhere. I would’ve thought he would measure out around 6’5.75 or 6’5 5/8 if he measured that at the combine
Click Here
@Rising and Christian: how much height difference do you see in the video here? This is good when both are hitting the bag because they close to each other and both are standing barefoot.
Click Here
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve almost never seen where it’s a 2” difference between Russ and harden. It usually looks about 1-1.5” I easily buy 6’2/6’2.25 for Russ and 6’3/6’3.5 for Harden
@Rising: I agree with what you said! I would like to see Gay with Merriman as well. I think Viper posted one of Merriman and Shawn Kemp though and Kemp is said to be something like 6’8.5.
@Viper: I’ve almost never seen where it’s a 2” difference between Russ and harden. It usually looks about 1-1.5” I easily buy 6’2/6’2.25 for Russ and 6’3/6’3.5 for Harden
@Rising: I agree with what you said! I would like to see Gay with Merriman as well. I think Viper posted one of Merriman and Shawn Kemp though and Kemp is said to be something like 6’8.5.
viper said on 11/Nov/18
Chris Long might only be 6-2
Chris Long might only be 6-2
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian: for Wade, it wouldn’t surprise me if he measured in shoes honestly and it was moved over. Shane alluded to that as well. The measurements from that year appear afternoon imho. Keith Bogans measured 6’4.5 in 2002 and 6’4.25 in 03. Melo was 6’6.25 but I will say in Melo’s case it’s not entirely impossible for him to have been a morning measurement and have grown a small fraction since the draft since he was 18. He looks a very legit 6’6”. Maybe strong. Wade just looks small imho like other 6’2.5-6’3 guards look in the league
@Christian: for Wade, it wouldn’t surprise me if he measured in shoes honestly and it was moved over. Shane alluded to that as well. The measurements from that year appear afternoon imho. Keith Bogans measured 6’4.5 in 2002 and 6’4.25 in 03. Melo was 6’6.25 but I will say in Melo’s case it’s not entirely impossible for him to have been a morning measurement and have grown a small fraction since the draft since he was 18. He looks a very legit 6’6”. Maybe strong. Wade just looks small imho like other 6’2.5-6’3 guards look in the league
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian: he has said both about Rampage before. He said “you love making people taller” as well and even said to me that I “love making people shorter”. I respect him myself but when you see the inconsistencies with his comments it doesn’t help And that isn’t just him that’s a lot of the posters here who claim that Barkley’s measurement didn’t take place. Common sense would say the NBA isn’t gonna make a player shorter. They just won’t do that. That’s a very lazy silly cop out. Especially when someone trusts what Conan says out of his mouth relative to his own height but not Barkley. So we’re going to make Barkley taller just to make Conan the height he claims is what I gather here when in reality it’s known that many men lie about their height. Barkley has even gone on to say before that he’s 6’5” so it isn’t him doing that because he did measure 6’4 5/8. Wouldn’t surprise me if he were just 6’4.5 peak barefoot
@Christian: he has said both about Rampage before. He said “you love making people taller” as well and even said to me that I “love making people shorter”. I respect him myself but when you see the inconsistencies with his comments it doesn’t help And that isn’t just him that’s a lot of the posters here who claim that Barkley’s measurement didn’t take place. Common sense would say the NBA isn’t gonna make a player shorter. They just won’t do that. That’s a very lazy silly cop out. Especially when someone trusts what Conan says out of his mouth relative to his own height but not Barkley. So we’re going to make Barkley taller just to make Conan the height he claims is what I gather here when in reality it’s known that many men lie about their height. Barkley has even gone on to say before that he’s 6’5” so it isn’t him doing that because he did measure 6’4 5/8. Wouldn’t surprise me if he were just 6’4.5 peak barefoot
viper said on 11/Nov/18
Merriman needs to be downgraded to 6-2.5 badly.
Hell, 6-1 linebacker Samson Ebukam physically looks taller than Merriman ever did on the football field.
Merriman needs to be downgraded to 6-2.5 badly.
Hell, 6-1 linebacker Samson Ebukam physically looks taller than Merriman ever did on the football field.
viper said on 11/Nov/18
I wonder If Merriman wears these first pair of shoes. I've seen him wear similar shoes. They give over 2 inches in height. Click Here
I wonder If Merriman wears these first pair of shoes. I've seen him wear similar shoes. They give over 2 inches in height. Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson: I meant I should have known my reply would bring up the Barkley debate. As for Danimal, I've disagreed over his speculating over posters' psychology, including my own so I get where Christian is coming from with that, but after seeing him post here for almost a decade now, I think he's a good guy overall. Back to Merriman, the comparisons to basketball players have been some of the most interesting, but I'd really like to see a good pic or video of Shawne and Rudy Gay after Gay referred to him as 6'2".
@Canson: I meant I should have known my reply would bring up the Barkley debate. As for Danimal, I've disagreed over his speculating over posters' psychology, including my own so I get where Christian is coming from with that, but after seeing him post here for almost a decade now, I think he's a good guy overall. Back to Merriman, the comparisons to basketball players have been some of the most interesting, but I'd really like to see a good pic or video of Shawne and Rudy Gay after Gay referred to him as 6'2".
viper said on 11/Nov/18
I saw a clip the other night of Harden talking to Russell Westbrook. Harden looked about 2 inches taller
I saw a clip the other night of Harden talking to Russell Westbrook. Harden looked about 2 inches taller
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
I do agree. Probably around 4-4.5”
I do agree. Probably around 4-4.5”
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Rising: you didn’t say anything wrong. Like you’ve said earlier with Danimal, they’re opinions. And I respect his just like Yours and Viper’s
@Rising: you didn’t say anything wrong. Like you’ve said earlier with Danimal, they’re opinions. And I respect his just like Yours and Viper’s
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson
I don't know if I can say the same about Danimal. Once he falsely accused me of wanting Uli Latukefu to be shorter than me, just because I estimated him at 6'4"-6'4.5". He also implied that Rampage was a downgrader (which is strange because many of Rampage's guesses tend to be higher than Rob's).
@Canson
I don't know if I can say the same about Danimal. Once he falsely accused me of wanting Uli Latukefu to be shorter than me, just because I estimated him at 6'4"-6'4.5". He also implied that Rampage was a downgrader (which is strange because many of Rampage's guesses tend to be higher than Rob's).
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson
I think the NBA gives an extra 1/4" boost for some players. There are some who look a full inch shorter than what they supposedly measured, like Wade for example. He was maybe measured 6'3.5" in the morning but was given a 1/4" boost to 6'3.75". That's just my theory though.
@Canson
I think the NBA gives an extra 1/4" boost for some players. There are some who look a full inch shorter than what they supposedly measured, like Wade for example. He was maybe measured 6'3.5" in the morning but was given a 1/4" boost to 6'3.75". That's just my theory though.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Nov/18
@Canson: I'll reply to anything on Barkley's height on his page, you know what I think of the 6'4 5/8" figure and any alleged or assumed measurements so I don't need to repeat it here. I don't think Conan saying "I'm not" had anything to do with height either. I think he got cut off from finishing his thought, which seemed to me like it was going to be to the effect that he wasn't handsome and an impressive figure like Selleck despite being tall. I agree with you that Conan is not a full 6'4" barefoot. Obviously, most of the things we disagree on concern Barkley or something similar and I don't personally see the parallels between Conan and Barkley, but I agree that taking Conan's claim at face value doesn't make much sense to me regardless. I won't speak for Danimal, but from what I gather, he seems to think most men over a certain height don't lie to make themselves taller, but would only lie to make themselves shorter. I don't agree with that myself, but I think that's his reasoning from what I've read him say on Tim Robbins and others. But this all started because I disagreed with viper's word choice so it's sort of semantics and I'll say that's viper's opinion and he can say it's "safe to say" if he wants. I said why I disagree, but I'll leave it at that. The important thing is that he's going to think Barkley is roughly the height you think he is for any comparison to Merriman so like I said, it doesn't much matter. I probably shouldn't have said anything so my bad.
Back to Magic and Merriman, I'll look into him a bit more with some of his Showtime era teammates, but I agree that's probably more 4", 4.5" based on what Rob said about Magic's eye level concerning Boris.
@Canson: I'll reply to anything on Barkley's height on his page, you know what I think of the 6'4 5/8" figure and any alleged or assumed measurements so I don't need to repeat it here. I don't think Conan saying "I'm not" had anything to do with height either. I think he got cut off from finishing his thought, which seemed to me like it was going to be to the effect that he wasn't handsome and an impressive figure like Selleck despite being tall. I agree with you that Conan is not a full 6'4" barefoot. Obviously, most of the things we disagree on concern Barkley or something similar and I don't personally see the parallels between Conan and Barkley, but I agree that taking Conan's claim at face value doesn't make much sense to me regardless. I won't speak for Danimal, but from what I gather, he seems to think most men over a certain height don't lie to make themselves taller, but would only lie to make themselves shorter. I don't agree with that myself, but I think that's his reasoning from what I've read him say on Tim Robbins and others. But this all started because I disagreed with viper's word choice so it's sort of semantics and I'll say that's viper's opinion and he can say it's "safe to say" if he wants. I said why I disagree, but I'll leave it at that. The important thing is that he's going to think Barkley is roughly the height you think he is for any comparison to Merriman so like I said, it doesn't much matter. I probably shouldn't have said anything so my bad.
Back to Magic and Merriman, I'll look into him a bit more with some of his Showtime era teammates, but I agree that's probably more 4", 4.5" based on what Rob said about Magic's eye level concerning Boris.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Christian: I almost wonder if Chane already did slouch somewhat. But if he didn’t and that’s just a low or an extreme low, then it shows that the NBA measurements are not only early morning but are likely inflated a bit. It’s possible that Chane isn’t even at an extreme low but a normal low instead as it occurred around 1pm.
@Christian: I almost wonder if Chane already did slouch somewhat. But if he didn’t and that’s just a low or an extreme low, then it shows that the NBA measurements are not only early morning but are likely inflated a bit. It’s possible that Chane isn’t even at an extreme low but a normal low instead as it occurred around 1pm.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: my opinion on Magic and Merriman is right in the middle. I have Magic at 6’7” at least today. I doubt he was ever 6’7.5. If we see a guy like Kurt Rambis with him, Magic was shorter than him (clearly). I would say a peak Magic May have been 6’7.25 (201) but no higher. And 6’7 wouldn’t surprise me either. May be as low as 6’6.75 today as some people have pointed out but I’ll leave him at 6’7”. I can see it being 4 maybe 4.5. Merriman at a solid 6’2 seems a bit low. 6’2.5 is about how he looks with Barkley and with Magic.
@Rising: my opinion on Magic and Merriman is right in the middle. I have Magic at 6’7” at least today. I doubt he was ever 6’7.5. If we see a guy like Kurt Rambis with him, Magic was shorter than him (clearly). I would say a peak Magic May have been 6’7.25 (201) but no higher. And 6’7 wouldn’t surprise me either. May be as low as 6’6.75 today as some people have pointed out but I’ll leave him at 6’7”. I can see it being 4 maybe 4.5. Merriman at a solid 6’2 seems a bit low. 6’2.5 is about how he looks with Barkley and with Magic.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: I like Danimal as a poster as well and respect him. But my reasoning with everyone and not just him, is that if you are going to accept Conan’s claims is that they are just that, claims. People claim Barkley downplays his height which is BS. Yes his measurements are closer to 6’5 than 6’4 but a guy measuring 6’4 5/8 could easily measure 6’4 1/2 or 3/8 as well if that wasn’t his low. Even at 6’4 1/2; he could round down to 6’4. I do agree with you that he’s not 6’4 flat. I have him precisely around the mark 6’4 1/2 maybe even 6’4 5/8 at his peak.
Conan claimed 6’4 1/2 and Danimal believes that is his height at his peak. Conan has claimed 6’4 more often than not and said 6’4 1/2 then said 6’4/6’4 1/2. He would measure 6’4-6’4 1/2 in shoes and 6’3-6’3 1/2 barefoot. Then said I’m about 6’4 but I’m not with Selleck. I think the latter is most accurate that he would measure almost 6’4 (at whichever point he went to the doctor which was likely earlier in the day). And to digress, Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 at the Olympics yet people are saying that is made up. It’s a bit ludicrous for the NBA to intentionally make up a measurement for him especially one that is very close to what he has claimed (6’4 1/2, 6’4 3/4) and what he “allegedly” measured 6’4 7/8. 5/8 is a very specific figure and it lines up to what most NBA players say he is and most others who have met him. So to me it’s because there are a lot of people here that don’t want to believe he’s not a tall as they think. Difference is that Barkley has at least two measurements here 6’4 5/8 and 7/8 on record whereas Conan has zero. And the “I don’t think that the 6’4 5/8 took place” is a lazy cop out. Several people have said that. One guy years back in Barkley’s forum said “if we keep Barkley at 197cm we don’t have to downgrade anyone”. I don’t know who it was now as that was a few months before my time. That type of statement is a very illogical one and pretty much shows that people think making a celeb taller than they are is respectful where as downgrading them isn’t. And That’s an excuse honestly just because Barkley makes others look shorter than their claims. I understand he can but That’s also a specific figure that he measured. If they were gonna make it up they would’ve just said he was 6’4 or 6’4 1/2 maybe. And if we take into account that most NBA players are listed about half inch taller than they would measure in the afternoon, Barkley is right in line with them as I wouldn’t argue him measuring a full 6’5 in the first hour or two of waking and him dipping to 6’4 5/8 or 1/2. That’s in line with James Harden and Steph Curry (6’3 and change and 6’1 and Change at lows).my point is that we can’t “simply” ignore the measurements for Barkley or sweep them under the rug or make other bs excuses such as the ones that some of the posters you mention make about them being made up and then turn around say that the Rock is 6’3 like one of them often says. One of which took a heavily favored pic of the Rock with another athlete and tried to use that as evidence. Then another pic of the same athlete and Rock was posted and there was “a problem with that pic” although everyone was in agreement that that pic was the best of them but because The Rock looked at best 6’2” it wasn’t good. Everyone acknowledged the bad angle in the pic that poster posted. And that was not Danimal because like you said he believes the Rock is 6’2”. It was one of the ones you mentioned though. Barkley and Tim Robbins are two of the only celebs I don’t agree with Danimal on. He also claims robbins was 6’6/6’7 when he claimed 6’4.5 and 6’5. But I agree with most of his estimates actually to be fair.
So my point is that people can’t accept that someone who was actually measured is not what he measured, then why are we accepting that Conan is 6’4” or over when he was never measured? Just because he claimed it? Especially when 6’3.5 Selleck edged him even if it included a footwear advantage, along with Hasselhoff, Neeson, Lithgow. Even Klitschko at 6’5 1/4 had a good 2” on him. Common denominator is that Conan inflated all of them except Hasselhoff and Lithgow. He even asked Wlad if he were 6’6/6’7 when he was on. I’m in agreement with you on Selleck as I mentioned before and your estimate for Conan is a lot more reasonable. 6’3 1/2 is very reasonable (although I would shoot for 6’3.25). Conan has long hair though so it makes it tricky at times. Not sure if you saw Mickey mention he’s met him (Mickey is from Boston). Now we can’t ever be certain but Mickey seems honest and he is almost right on point when he said that he and Conan are almost exactly the same height. He initially said he couldn’t see him below 191 or above 192. Mickey said he’s 6’3.25 at his low to 6’3 3/8 some days so that said Conan could be a bit less or even a bit more. 6’3 flat or 6’3 1/8 is possible just as 6’3.5 maybe 6’3 5/8 is because if one person is 6’3.25 or 6’3 3/8 at a low then 1/4” isn’t as noticeable. Now I go with 6’3.25 because of how he looks with Barkley Kobe and with Neeson. Neeson had 2cm on Conan when he met him. I would leave some room and say Rob may have underlisted Neeson for his peak by a hair. Maybe 6’4 1/8 or 1/4 although I still think 193-193.5 for him. That puts Conan around Mickey’s height
@Rising: I like Danimal as a poster as well and respect him. But my reasoning with everyone and not just him, is that if you are going to accept Conan’s claims is that they are just that, claims. People claim Barkley downplays his height which is BS. Yes his measurements are closer to 6’5 than 6’4 but a guy measuring 6’4 5/8 could easily measure 6’4 1/2 or 3/8 as well if that wasn’t his low. Even at 6’4 1/2; he could round down to 6’4. I do agree with you that he’s not 6’4 flat. I have him precisely around the mark 6’4 1/2 maybe even 6’4 5/8 at his peak.
Conan claimed 6’4 1/2 and Danimal believes that is his height at his peak. Conan has claimed 6’4 more often than not and said 6’4 1/2 then said 6’4/6’4 1/2. He would measure 6’4-6’4 1/2 in shoes and 6’3-6’3 1/2 barefoot. Then said I’m about 6’4 but I’m not with Selleck. I think the latter is most accurate that he would measure almost 6’4 (at whichever point he went to the doctor which was likely earlier in the day). And to digress, Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 at the Olympics yet people are saying that is made up. It’s a bit ludicrous for the NBA to intentionally make up a measurement for him especially one that is very close to what he has claimed (6’4 1/2, 6’4 3/4) and what he “allegedly” measured 6’4 7/8. 5/8 is a very specific figure and it lines up to what most NBA players say he is and most others who have met him. So to me it’s because there are a lot of people here that don’t want to believe he’s not a tall as they think. Difference is that Barkley has at least two measurements here 6’4 5/8 and 7/8 on record whereas Conan has zero. And the “I don’t think that the 6’4 5/8 took place” is a lazy cop out. Several people have said that. One guy years back in Barkley’s forum said “if we keep Barkley at 197cm we don’t have to downgrade anyone”. I don’t know who it was now as that was a few months before my time. That type of statement is a very illogical one and pretty much shows that people think making a celeb taller than they are is respectful where as downgrading them isn’t. And That’s an excuse honestly just because Barkley makes others look shorter than their claims. I understand he can but That’s also a specific figure that he measured. If they were gonna make it up they would’ve just said he was 6’4 or 6’4 1/2 maybe. And if we take into account that most NBA players are listed about half inch taller than they would measure in the afternoon, Barkley is right in line with them as I wouldn’t argue him measuring a full 6’5 in the first hour or two of waking and him dipping to 6’4 5/8 or 1/2. That’s in line with James Harden and Steph Curry (6’3 and change and 6’1 and Change at lows).my point is that we can’t “simply” ignore the measurements for Barkley or sweep them under the rug or make other bs excuses such as the ones that some of the posters you mention make about them being made up and then turn around say that the Rock is 6’3 like one of them often says. One of which took a heavily favored pic of the Rock with another athlete and tried to use that as evidence. Then another pic of the same athlete and Rock was posted and there was “a problem with that pic” although everyone was in agreement that that pic was the best of them but because The Rock looked at best 6’2” it wasn’t good. Everyone acknowledged the bad angle in the pic that poster posted. And that was not Danimal because like you said he believes the Rock is 6’2”. It was one of the ones you mentioned though. Barkley and Tim Robbins are two of the only celebs I don’t agree with Danimal on. He also claims robbins was 6’6/6’7 when he claimed 6’4.5 and 6’5. But I agree with most of his estimates actually to be fair.
So my point is that people can’t accept that someone who was actually measured is not what he measured, then why are we accepting that Conan is 6’4” or over when he was never measured? Just because he claimed it? Especially when 6’3.5 Selleck edged him even if it included a footwear advantage, along with Hasselhoff, Neeson, Lithgow. Even Klitschko at 6’5 1/4 had a good 2” on him. Common denominator is that Conan inflated all of them except Hasselhoff and Lithgow. He even asked Wlad if he were 6’6/6’7 when he was on. I’m in agreement with you on Selleck as I mentioned before and your estimate for Conan is a lot more reasonable. 6’3 1/2 is very reasonable (although I would shoot for 6’3.25). Conan has long hair though so it makes it tricky at times. Not sure if you saw Mickey mention he’s met him (Mickey is from Boston). Now we can’t ever be certain but Mickey seems honest and he is almost right on point when he said that he and Conan are almost exactly the same height. He initially said he couldn’t see him below 191 or above 192. Mickey said he’s 6’3.25 at his low to 6’3 3/8 some days so that said Conan could be a bit less or even a bit more. 6’3 flat or 6’3 1/8 is possible just as 6’3.5 maybe 6’3 5/8 is because if one person is 6’3.25 or 6’3 3/8 at a low then 1/4” isn’t as noticeable. Now I go with 6’3.25 because of how he looks with Barkley Kobe and with Neeson. Neeson had 2cm on Conan when he met him. I would leave some room and say Rob may have underlisted Neeson for his peak by a hair. Maybe 6’4 1/8 or 1/4 although I still think 193-193.5 for him. That puts Conan around Mickey’s height
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Nov/18
@Canson: I'm guessing you're referring to Danimal? There's plenty of things I don't agree with him on, including Conan, but he's been a regular poster for years so his opinion is as valid as anyone's. I wouldn't say it's exactly the same either since Barkley changes his height claim like most people change their socks while Conan has only claimed the 6'4" and 6'4.5" as far as I know. But Conan is apparently not the only reason Danimal thinks Barkley is 6'5.5"-6'6". He recently gave his reasoning on 10/Oct/18 on Rock's page and didn't mention Conan. My point isn't whether all of our reasoning is sound or not. Just that opinion is far too divided on Barkley to say there's a consensus.
Back to Merriman, how tall is he with Magic? Click Here Is that 5" or just 4"? And does Magic have a camera advantage and is one or the other losing more height with posture?
@Canson: I'm guessing you're referring to Danimal? There's plenty of things I don't agree with him on, including Conan, but he's been a regular poster for years so his opinion is as valid as anyone's. I wouldn't say it's exactly the same either since Barkley changes his height claim like most people change their socks while Conan has only claimed the 6'4" and 6'4.5" as far as I know. But Conan is apparently not the only reason Danimal thinks Barkley is 6'5.5"-6'6". He recently gave his reasoning on 10/Oct/18 on Rock's page and didn't mention Conan. My point isn't whether all of our reasoning is sound or not. Just that opinion is far too divided on Barkley to say there's a consensus.
Back to Merriman, how tall is he with Magic? Click Here Is that 5" or just 4"? And does Magic have a camera advantage and is one or the other losing more height with posture?
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Nov/18
@Canson
Chane should've slouched a bit for his measurement so he could've passed under the limit.
@Canson
Chane should've slouched a bit for his measurement so he could've passed under the limit.
Canson said on 9/Nov/18
@Rising: I also see that some of the posters below (1 in particular) takes and uses Conan’s claim of 6’4-6’4 1/2 as evidence that he is that height when that’s his shoe height. 191-192 is arguable for Conan as a barefoot height. By deduction he has Barkley at 6’5 1/2 which is his shoe height. That is inconsistent that he takes one’s claims but not the other’s claim.
As for Merriman, I would agree on however and have said he looks 6’2 1/2 vs a flat 6’2 or shorter
@Rising: I also see that some of the posters below (1 in particular) takes and uses Conan’s claim of 6’4-6’4 1/2 as evidence that he is that height when that’s his shoe height. 191-192 is arguable for Conan as a barefoot height. By deduction he has Barkley at 6’5 1/2 which is his shoe height. That is inconsistent that he takes one’s claims but not the other’s claim.
As for Merriman, I would agree on however and have said he looks 6’2 1/2 vs a flat 6’2 or shorter
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Viper: this is an example of a wide variance between a pre draft (NBA). Chane Behanan. His NBA pre draft measurement is 6’6” while his measurement at the PBA (which has a height ceiling) was 6’5 1/16 which is close to an inch. While I think the obvious that the NBA measurement likely isn’t 100% accurate, I also see him possibly going for an extreme low just to make it there
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@Viper: this is an example of a wide variance between a pre draft (NBA). Chane Behanan. His NBA pre draft measurement is 6’6” while his measurement at the PBA (which has a height ceiling) was 6’5 1/16 which is close to an inch. While I think the obvious that the NBA measurement likely isn’t 100% accurate, I also see him possibly going for an extreme low just to make it there
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viper said on 8/Nov/18
They are talking about how short Christian Mccafrey is, yet he measured at 5-11.
They are talking about how short Christian Mccafrey is, yet he measured at 5-11.
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Nov/18
Short video of staredown with 5'11.5" Rampage: Click Here Even with Shawne tilting his head down(though the camera is on his side), I don't see anywhere near 4.5", but here's Rampage with Chuck Liddell: Click Here Click Here Shawne looks 6'2.5" with Rampage, but can look 6'4" with Liddell or at least 6'3"+. I still can't make complete sense of that. The other interesting thing is Shawne telling the nurse he thought he was 6'5" when he measured 6'4.5" when that should come as no surprise if he measured 1/8" below that at the combine or a very pleasant surprise if he was 6'2" range at the combine like when Van Damme was almost literally jumping for joy after his mother measured him 177 cm. It's kind of weird since you'd think he'd remember his combine measurement one way or the other.
For the purposes of comparing, I'd agree 6'4.75"-6'5" range is fair as middle ground for Barkley or Rob's 6'4.9" listing. 2.5" is possible since it's barely different than 2.25" or whatever I said before. If it were only me that suspected Barkley was taller then I'd say "safe to say" might be a fair way to put it, but with other regulars like Vegas, JT and Danimal along with the average guess, safe to say isn't the right way to put it, but I digress.
Short video of staredown with 5'11.5" Rampage: Click Here Even with Shawne tilting his head down(though the camera is on his side), I don't see anywhere near 4.5", but here's Rampage with Chuck Liddell: Click Here Click Here Shawne looks 6'2.5" with Rampage, but can look 6'4" with Liddell or at least 6'3"+. I still can't make complete sense of that. The other interesting thing is Shawne telling the nurse he thought he was 6'5" when he measured 6'4.5" when that should come as no surprise if he measured 1/8" below that at the combine or a very pleasant surprise if he was 6'2" range at the combine like when Van Damme was almost literally jumping for joy after his mother measured him 177 cm. It's kind of weird since you'd think he'd remember his combine measurement one way or the other.
For the purposes of comparing, I'd agree 6'4.75"-6'5" range is fair as middle ground for Barkley or Rob's 6'4.9" listing. 2.5" is possible since it's barely different than 2.25" or whatever I said before. If it were only me that suspected Barkley was taller then I'd say "safe to say" might be a fair way to put it, but with other regulars like Vegas, JT and Danimal along with the average guess, safe to say isn't the right way to put it, but I digress.
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Viper: in his prime or near it, he looked close with Chick Hearn and could pull off 6’3 next to Magic at times. Other times he does look 6’2
@Viper: in his prime or near it, he looked close with Chick Hearn and could pull off 6’3 next to Magic at times. Other times he does look 6’2
viper said on 7/Nov/18
West is listed at 6-2. He doesn't look taller than that.
West is listed at 6-2. He doesn't look taller than that.
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve heard West is said to be 6’3” as well. Maybe he’s 6’2 1/2
@Viper: I’ve heard West is said to be 6’3” as well. Maybe he’s 6’2 1/2
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Viper: makes sense given you’ve seen other guys have discrepancies in their measurements such as Kearse. May be a real 6’6.5 guy as well like you mentioned about Osweiler. Does osweiler have any other measurements that you’ve seen?
@Viper: makes sense given you’ve seen other guys have discrepancies in their measurements such as Kearse. May be a real 6’6.5 guy as well like you mentioned about Osweiler. Does osweiler have any other measurements that you’ve seen?
viper said on 6/Nov/18
6-2 Jerry West claims 6-4.5.
6-2 Rock claims 6-5.
Would they pull that same measuring stunt, lol
6-2 Jerry West claims 6-4.5.
6-2 Rock claims 6-5.
Would they pull that same measuring stunt, lol
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Hughes would look 6-1-6-2 In person
Hughes would look 6-1-6-2 In person
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Jerry Hughes measured 6-2.1 and he's actually a 6-1 1/2 guy
Jerry Hughes measured 6-2.1 and he's actually a 6-1 1/2 guy
viper said on 5/Nov/18
The 6-7.1 could be legit, since he measured 6-6 5/8 I believe.
So he's a 6-6 1/2 guy rounded down
The 6-7.1 could be legit, since he measured 6-6 5/8 I believe.
So he's a 6-6 1/2 guy rounded down
viper said on 5/Nov/18
If we go by Rob's own Barkley listing at 6-4.75, Merriman looks 6-2.25.
6-2 3/8 Max.
If we go by Rob's own Barkley listing at 6-4.75, Merriman looks 6-2.25.
6-2 3/8 Max.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
That's 2.5 inches at least with Merriman and Barkley.
That picture just shows Merriman isn't close to 6-4.
We can safely say Barkley is between
6-4.5 and 6-5.
That's 2.5 inches at least with Merriman and Barkley.
That picture just shows Merriman isn't close to 6-4.
We can safely say Barkley is between
6-4.5 and 6-5.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Glennon measured 6-6 5/8 another time I think.
Osweiler is really a 6-6 1/2 guy
Glennon measured 6-6 5/8 another time I think.
Osweiler is really a 6-6 1/2 guy
Canson said on 5/Nov/18
@Viper: I noticed with Glennon that he supposedly measured 6071 and is listed at 6’6 then Paxton Lynch measured 6065 and is listed at 6’7” in the NFL.
@Viper: I noticed with Glennon that he supposedly measured 6071 and is listed at 6’6 then Paxton Lynch measured 6065 and is listed at 6’7” in the NFL.
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Viper: they say Osweiler is 6’8 at times because he was listed at that in college. He is listed at 6’7” today in the programs but he did measure practically 6’7”. 6’6 7/8 is 6’7” for all intents and purposes. Of course on this site we know that height varies but for the NFL it’s just another measurement and is what they go by maybe outside of the organizations themselves. I also think a lot of that has to do with him being very tall for a QB. They play off that
@Viper: they say Osweiler is 6’8 at times because he was listed at that in college. He is listed at 6’7” today in the programs but he did measure practically 6’7”. 6’6 7/8 is 6’7” for all intents and purposes. Of course on this site we know that height varies but for the NFL it’s just another measurement and is what they go by maybe outside of the organizations themselves. I also think a lot of that has to do with him being very tall for a QB. They play off that
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Rising: Merriman can look different heights. There are times when he looks 6’4 as well. It’s possible Viper underestimated him by a tad but I would say maybe by an inch. I agree 6’2.5. And if Viper didn’t see footwear or Merriman had bad posture then not sure
@Rising: Merriman can look different heights. There are times when he looks 6’4 as well. It’s possible Viper underestimated him by a tad but I would say maybe by an inch. I agree 6’2.5. And if Viper didn’t see footwear or Merriman had bad posture then not sure
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Viper: May very well be a fallacy
@Viper: May very well be a fallacy
viper said on 3/Nov/18
I doubt it. My 71 year old 6-0 dad hasn't lost any height. My 5-8 80 year old Uncle hasn't lost any height.
I doubt it. My 71 year old 6-0 dad hasn't lost any height. My 5-8 80 year old Uncle hasn't lost any height.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
Came across the Barkley pic by accident after failing when I actually tried to search for it lol: Click Here Imo, there's more than a 2" difference. I'd say around 5.5 cm or 2.25" minimum assuming Barkley has a 10" head. It's always possible one guy is being pushed down with the arm around shoulder, but it doesn't really look like that to me and Barkley's posture seems casual. I don't see the camera favoring Barkley either and their heads actually look close in size, which seems accurate since Shawne looks to have a big head himself. Of course, Barkley's height is almost as contested as Shawne's, but it's still interesting.
Came across the Barkley pic by accident after failing when I actually tried to search for it lol: Click Here Imo, there's more than a 2" difference. I'd say around 5.5 cm or 2.25" minimum assuming Barkley has a 10" head. It's always possible one guy is being pushed down with the arm around shoulder, but it doesn't really look like that to me and Barkley's posture seems casual. I don't see the camera favoring Barkley either and their heads actually look close in size, which seems accurate since Shawne looks to have a big head himself. Of course, Barkley's height is almost as contested as Shawne's, but it's still interesting.
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Ronald Blair is listed at 6-4, yet measured at 6-2.1
Ronald Blair is listed at 6-4, yet measured at 6-2.1
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Notre Dame has been listing their players at their real heights which is strange the last few years. And NC State with a few.
Notre Dame has been listing their players at their real heights which is strange the last few years. And NC State with a few.
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Jerry Hughes was measured 6-1.6 at the combine and 6-2.1 at his pro day.
He's a 6-1 1/2 guy.
Jerry Hughes was measured 6-1.6 at the combine and 6-2.1 at his pro day.
He's a 6-1 1/2 guy.
viper said on 2/Nov/18
I hate how they call Osweiler 6-8 when he's not even 6-7.
Yeah, I don't know If the 6-7.1 is legit for Glennon.
I hate how they call Osweiler 6-8 when he's not even 6-7.
Yeah, I don't know If the 6-7.1 is legit for Glennon.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
I looked into Shawne a little on my own and a couple of comparisons stand out. First, with 6'0.75" listed Chuck Liddell at 2 events: Click Here Click Here First pic he looks about solid 6'3" to me with maybe a little worse posture, but possible camera advantage, but in the second pic he looks closer to 6'4", albeit with better posture. Don't know if there's a camera advantage there. But then there's this with Derek Fisher: Click Here I figure Fisher is around 6'0" next to Kobe and Obama and in that case, I don't see Shawne over 6'2.5" next to him. It's possible there's something as far as posture or camera, but again, I don't know. As for Liddell, I think he has to be close to his listing seeing him with 5'10" Mike Tyson: Click Here He looks a couple of inches taller, but there's no doubt he's losing height from posture and probably camera. Curious what everyone thinks of both comparisons since Shawne does look 6'3"-6'4" range with Chuck, but 6'2" range with Fisher.
@viper: You saw Shawne on the pavement circle around the stadium? I'm not familiar with the stadium since the only sports event I've been to in Maryland was an Oriole game in 1994, but did you notice how level the ground seemed?
I looked into Shawne a little on my own and a couple of comparisons stand out. First, with 6'0.75" listed Chuck Liddell at 2 events: Click Here Click Here First pic he looks about solid 6'3" to me with maybe a little worse posture, but possible camera advantage, but in the second pic he looks closer to 6'4", albeit with better posture. Don't know if there's a camera advantage there. But then there's this with Derek Fisher: Click Here I figure Fisher is around 6'0" next to Kobe and Obama and in that case, I don't see Shawne over 6'2.5" next to him. It's possible there's something as far as posture or camera, but again, I don't know. As for Liddell, I think he has to be close to his listing seeing him with 5'10" Mike Tyson: Click Here He looks a couple of inches taller, but there's no doubt he's losing height from posture and probably camera. Curious what everyone thinks of both comparisons since Shawne does look 6'3"-6'4" range with Chuck, but 6'2" range with Fisher.
@viper: You saw Shawne on the pavement circle around the stadium? I'm not familiar with the stadium since the only sports event I've been to in Maryland was an Oriole game in 1994, but did you notice how level the ground seemed?
Canson said on 2/Nov/18
Happens to the best of us Viper. I’m sure you and I will see some degree of it in the next 7-10. I have likely already lost a mm or two.
Happens to the best of us Viper. I’m sure you and I will see some degree of it in the next 7-10. I have likely already lost a mm or two.
viper said on 1/Nov/18
6-0 Joey Connors of UCF was listed at
6-4 in high school
6-0 Joey Connors of UCF was listed at
6-4 in high school
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Viper: I’d say if he’s not the full mark he may dip to something like 6’5 7/8 since he was measured earlier in the day. Which still constitutes 6’6”. He does look 6’6 rather often however
@Viper: I’d say if he’s not the full mark he may dip to something like 6’5 7/8 since he was measured earlier in the day. Which still constitutes 6’6”. He does look 6’6 rather often however
viper said on 1/Nov/18
My eye doctor has shrunk from 6-3 to 6-2 and it is so noticeable
My eye doctor has shrunk from 6-3 to 6-2 and it is so noticeable
viper said on 1/Nov/18
Joe Flacco looks at least 6-6
Joe Flacco looks at least 6-6
viper said on 1/Nov/18
I wonder If Mike Vick is really 6-0
I wonder If Mike Vick is really 6-0
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@Viper: I remember Booger McFarland said he’s 6’0” during the game he broke the record against the Redskins a few weeks ago and that Drew Brees wasn’t any more than 5’10”. Now that could be a bit of a stretch as Brees measured 5’11 7/8 as well as 6’0.25. Maybe 5’11 is a worst case if he were wearing some lifts in his socks etc. I’ve also heard Booger is really 5’11” in an article about when he was in college and he admitted that to a reporter despite being listed 6’1”. Booger measured 6’0 1/2 at the combine
@Viper: I remember Booger McFarland said he’s 6’0” during the game he broke the record against the Redskins a few weeks ago and that Drew Brees wasn’t any more than 5’10”. Now that could be a bit of a stretch as Brees measured 5’11 7/8 as well as 6’0.25. Maybe 5’11 is a worst case if he were wearing some lifts in his socks etc. I’ve also heard Booger is really 5’11” in an article about when he was in college and he admitted that to a reporter despite being listed 6’1”. Booger measured 6’0 1/2 at the combine
viper said on 30/Oct/18
Jayron was listed at 6-3 on a couple of sites when he was at Clemson
Jayron was listed at 6-3 on a couple of sites when he was at Clemson
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@Viper: that’s odd. His pre draft is 6040 yet they list him 6’3.2 there. That just means that combines aren’t as reliable as people thing
@Viper: that’s odd. His pre draft is 6040 yet they list him 6’3.2 there. That just means that combines aren’t as reliable as people thing
viper said on 29/Oct/18
I'll tell you a measured height that really surprised me is Art Monk at 6-2.
Thought he was 6-3 minimum for sure.
Monk could be a guy for Rob to add.
I'll tell you a measured height that really surprised me is Art Monk at 6-2.
Thought he was 6-3 minimum for sure.
Monk could be a guy for Rob to add.
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@Viper: that’s not surprising because most people inflate other athletes to make them sound more impressive
@Viper: that’s not surprising because most people inflate other athletes to make them sound more impressive
viper said on 28/Oct/18
Couchscout has Jayron Kearse's real height of 6-3.2
Couchscout has Jayron Kearse's real height of 6-3.2
viper said on 28/Oct/18
6-2 Reggie Gilbert looks way taller than Merriman physically on the football field
6-2 Reggie Gilbert looks way taller than Merriman physically on the football field
viper said on 25/Oct/18
Guy on MSU's board told me Brandon Graham is a solid 6-2, and that he's
6-1.
Graham was measured at 6-0.6
Guy on MSU's board told me Brandon Graham is a solid 6-2, and that he's
6-1.
Graham was measured at 6-0.6
viper said on 25/Oct/18
Brennan Scarlett looks 6-2 and he's listed at 6-5
Brennan Scarlett looks 6-2 and he's listed at 6-5
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
@CM: agreed
@CM: agreed
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
@Rising: you make excellent points. My main reason for challenging Eli’s measurement is based on how he looks next to Ben. Ben looks taller yet only 1/8” difference exists. I could buy Eli as high as 194cm potentially because the difference with Peyton may appear more than it is at times. It may only be around 2cm
@Rising: you make excellent points. My main reason for challenging Eli’s measurement is based on how he looks next to Ben. Ben looks taller yet only 1/8” difference exists. I could buy Eli as high as 194cm potentially because the difference with Peyton may appear more than it is at times. It may only be around 2cm
viper said on 24/Oct/18
Yeah I know who Russ Par is
Yeah I know who Russ Par is
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Oct/18
Canson: I guess that's possible since many think Eli is more a solid 6'4" than weak 6'5" and he was always shorter than Peyton. It's also possible the 6'4.75" was an hour after waking. Though Eli did have at least 3" on Alex Rodriguez, albeit with thicker sneakers. But Eli being shorter would prove my point even more about how unusual it would be to measure 6'4"+ and be listed 6'3" throughout your college career.
Canson: I guess that's possible since many think Eli is more a solid 6'4" than weak 6'5" and he was always shorter than Peyton. It's also possible the 6'4.75" was an hour after waking. Though Eli did have at least 3" on Alex Rodriguez, albeit with thicker sneakers. But Eli being shorter would prove my point even more about how unusual it would be to measure 6'4"+ and be listed 6'3" throughout your college career.
CM said on 23/Oct/18
He really does need a downgrade, he isn't close to 6'4...
He really does need a downgrade, he isn't close to 6'4...
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
@Canson
Also Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Hernandez.
@Canson
Also Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Hernandez.
Canson said on 21/Oct/18
@Rising: it could’ve been an error with Eli Manning. Ben Roethlisberger measured 6’4 7/8 at the same combine and looks taller.
@Rising: it could’ve been an error with Eli Manning. Ben Roethlisberger measured 6’4 7/8 at the same combine and looks taller.
Canson said on 20/Oct/18
@Viper: are you familiar with Russ Parr? How tall would you say he is? I know back in the day he claimed 6’3” on his show
@Viper: are you familiar with Russ Parr? How tall would you say he is? I know back in the day he claimed 6’3” on his show
Canson said on 19/Oct/18
@Viper: I’m beginning to question the validity of combines for some. I noticed that listing you sent out for the Redskins where Lavar measures 6’3 and Darnerian McCants measured 6’4. They are 6’2.2 and 6’3 on their listings you sent out and the latter was listed 6’3” his entire career as opposed to 6’4”.
@Viper: I’m beginning to question the validity of combines for some. I noticed that listing you sent out for the Redskins where Lavar measures 6’3 and Darnerian McCants measured 6’4. They are 6’2.2 and 6’3 on their listings you sent out and the latter was listed 6’3” his entire career as opposed to 6’4”.
Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Oct/18
@Canson: All I can say is I always thought Wiley looked believable at a legit 6'4" so I bought the measurement when I saw it, but I don't know the time of day and I haven't actually compared his height to any measured guys so I don't know if he drops under it or not. I tend to agree Wiley is taller viewing both pics, but the difference was much smaller in the one Andrea posted and I conceded I can't say with any certainty whether the posture difference is as great as the remaining height difference and footwear difference in that pic. Now in the other pic with Jackson, Merriman looks noticeably shorter than Wiley and doesn't look a believable 6'4" with Jackson while Wiley does, but I did acknowledge from the start that Merriman was at the disadvantage there. The question is how much disadvantage there. For whatever reason, it's often with basketball players that Merriman can really look shorter.
@Canson: All I can say is I always thought Wiley looked believable at a legit 6'4" so I bought the measurement when I saw it, but I don't know the time of day and I haven't actually compared his height to any measured guys so I don't know if he drops under it or not. I tend to agree Wiley is taller viewing both pics, but the difference was much smaller in the one Andrea posted and I conceded I can't say with any certainty whether the posture difference is as great as the remaining height difference and footwear difference in that pic. Now in the other pic with Jackson, Merriman looks noticeably shorter than Wiley and doesn't look a believable 6'4" with Jackson while Wiley does, but I did acknowledge from the start that Merriman was at the disadvantage there. The question is how much disadvantage there. For whatever reason, it's often with basketball players that Merriman can really look shorter.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Oct/18
@viper
Khaled's standing closer to the camera, but Merrimam doesn't seem to be over 6'1" in that pic, lol.
@viper
Khaled's standing closer to the camera, but Merrimam doesn't seem to be over 6'1" in that pic, lol.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Oct/18
@Andrea: From what I've seen of Armie, I'd have to agree he's more like 6'4", especially since he does have better posture than many men that height. And you make a good point about those guys measured 6'2"-6'3" at the combine. Certainly, it's difficult to see how Merriman would be only 6'2.5" with those guys as he can pull off 6'4" and I'd also acknowledge that it's particularly difficult with Crews since footwear is seen there. I respect that you acknowledge he can look 6'2"-6'3" and that actual differences aren't always what they seem in photos. With that said, there's enough anecdotal and even visual evidence for me to not rule out 6'2.5" myself until I can explain why he can look that or still look into this guy some more. Rob mentioned thinking he drops quite a bit of height at times and I consider that a possibility, but I'm not sure whether his posture is all that bad yet a lot of the time such as with a presumably 6'0" or so Derek Fisher. The 6'3" college listings are interesting too in that they seem to be official and a constant on the 2002-2005 Maryland rosters even while his weight changed from 218 to 246 to 258 etc. Some NFL players do round down as much as Eli Manning's 6'4.75" combine height being rounded down to 6'4" by the Giants, but I'd think a player still trying to be in the NFL would be more reluctant to be listed shorter. As soon as I'm a bit more sure of this guy, I'll probably be able to narrow him down some more, but I won't rule out your position either. I just made the Seagal comment because Rob himself said he doubted there was much difference. That reminds me, Aaron Hernandez should really have a page here, imo.
Btw, does anyone still have the Barkley photo(s)? I saw them together years ago and specifically remember looking up Merriman's height to see what he was, but saw the 6'2"+ and the 6'4"+ and couldn't make sense of that so didn't look into it further until Shwane got a page here. I was looking at it more to try to judge Barkley's height back then so I don't remember the difference.
@Andrea: From what I've seen of Armie, I'd have to agree he's more like 6'4", especially since he does have better posture than many men that height. And you make a good point about those guys measured 6'2"-6'3" at the combine. Certainly, it's difficult to see how Merriman would be only 6'2.5" with those guys as he can pull off 6'4" and I'd also acknowledge that it's particularly difficult with Crews since footwear is seen there. I respect that you acknowledge he can look 6'2"-6'3" and that actual differences aren't always what they seem in photos. With that said, there's enough anecdotal and even visual evidence for me to not rule out 6'2.5" myself until I can explain why he can look that or still look into this guy some more. Rob mentioned thinking he drops quite a bit of height at times and I consider that a possibility, but I'm not sure whether his posture is all that bad yet a lot of the time such as with a presumably 6'0" or so Derek Fisher. The 6'3" college listings are interesting too in that they seem to be official and a constant on the 2002-2005 Maryland rosters even while his weight changed from 218 to 246 to 258 etc. Some NFL players do round down as much as Eli Manning's 6'4.75" combine height being rounded down to 6'4" by the Giants, but I'd think a player still trying to be in the NFL would be more reluctant to be listed shorter. As soon as I'm a bit more sure of this guy, I'll probably be able to narrow him down some more, but I won't rule out your position either. I just made the Seagal comment because Rob himself said he doubted there was much difference. That reminds me, Aaron Hernandez should really have a page here, imo.
Btw, does anyone still have the Barkley photo(s)? I saw them together years ago and specifically remember looking up Merriman's height to see what he was, but saw the 6'2"+ and the 6'4"+ and couldn't make sense of that so didn't look into it further until Shwane got a page here. I was looking at it more to try to judge Barkley's height back then so I don't remember the difference.
viper said on 18/Oct/18
Draftscout has Richard Seymour at 6-6.2 which is wrong.
He was measured at 6-5.2 and 6-5.4
Draftscout has Richard Seymour at 6-6.2 which is wrong.
He was measured at 6-5.2 and 6-5.4
Canson said on 17/Oct/18
@Viper: and Vernon is standing poorly with him as he did with Merriman In a couple pics. Shows you he has bad posture on occasion
@Viper: and Vernon is standing poorly with him as he did with Merriman In a couple pics. Shows you he has bad posture on occasion
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Oct/18
@Canson
I'd doubt it. The top of his head reaches to his eyebrow level. But CM seems to have looser posture than Shawne so you might not be off.
@Canson
I'd doubt it. The top of his head reaches to his eyebrow level. But CM seems to have looser posture than Shawne so you might not be off.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Like I said, Merriman was listed at 6-4 in high school. He goes to Maryland and is listed at 6-3.
He didn't grow. He's simply not 6-4. Still can't believe he hasn't been downgraded
Like I said, Merriman was listed at 6-4 in high school. He goes to Maryland and is listed at 6-3.
He didn't grow. He's simply not 6-4. Still can't believe he hasn't been downgraded
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Cassius Marsh was supposedly measured at 6-4, yet he was listed at 6-2 in high school. Click Here
Cassius Marsh was supposedly measured at 6-4, yet he was listed at 6-2 in high school. Click Here
viper said on 15/Oct/18
I was surprised to see Ken Griffey listed at 6-2. He was always listed at 6-3.
I was surprised to see Ken Griffey listed at 6-2. He was always listed at 6-3.
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Viper: the problem is that everyone believes pre drafts. You even pointed out once a 6’3 listed guy being measured at 6’5 (supposedly). Probably an error but still. They make a lot. Chris Cooley is at most 6’3” and was measured 6’3.5. Wouldn’t surprise me if Cooley were actually 6’2.75
@Viper: the problem is that everyone believes pre drafts. You even pointed out once a 6’3 listed guy being measured at 6’5 (supposedly). Probably an error but still. They make a lot. Chris Cooley is at most 6’3” and was measured 6’3.5. Wouldn’t surprise me if Cooley were actually 6’2.75
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Christian: that could even just be 3” with CM.
@Viper: if Calhoun’s measurement was valid then he would likely be 6’4 flat or 6’3 7/8 at a low. I would say Merriman looks about his Pro Day measurement with him (6’2.4). That could be 6’2.5 or 6’2 3/8.
@Christian: that could even just be 3” with CM.
@Viper: if Calhoun’s measurement was valid then he would likely be 6’4 flat or 6’3 7/8 at a low. I would say Merriman looks about his Pro Day measurement with him (6’2.4). That could be 6’2.5 or 6’2 3/8.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Laron Profit looked 6-4. He was listed at 6-4 during the draft.
I'm pretty accurate. I'm not going to be off by no more than an inch If I'm wrong.
Laron Profit looked 6-4. He was listed at 6-4 during the draft.
I'm pretty accurate. I'm not going to be off by no more than an inch If I'm wrong.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
I thought Shannon Sharpe was 6-2 and I was off by half an inch at his tallest technically. So off by .5-.75.
He's the only guy I've been off of.
Rickey Jackson looked 6-1, he was measured at 6-1.
Lin Dawson looked 6-3 minimum, he's listed at 6-3.
Nick Faldo I've seen up close and looked his 6-3 listing.
Scott Van Pelt looked 6-6. What he claims.
Phil Ford looks 5-11 Max up close. He was measured at 5-11 3/4 early in his NBA career.
I thought Shannon Sharpe was 6-2 and I was off by half an inch at his tallest technically. So off by .5-.75.
He's the only guy I've been off of.
Rickey Jackson looked 6-1, he was measured at 6-1.
Lin Dawson looked 6-3 minimum, he's listed at 6-3.
Nick Faldo I've seen up close and looked his 6-3 listing.
Scott Van Pelt looked 6-6. What he claims.
Phil Ford looks 5-11 Max up close. He was measured at 5-11 3/4 early in his NBA career.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Interesting how baseball downgraded Dontrelle Willis from 6-4 to his real
6-2 height
Interesting how baseball downgraded Dontrelle Willis from 6-4 to his real
6-2 height
viper said on 14/Oct/18
Canson, If Calhoun dips under 6-4 even a little Merriman is MAX 6-2 with him
Canson, If Calhoun dips under 6-4 even a little Merriman is MAX 6-2 with him
viper said on 14/Oct/18
6-4 for Merriman is crazy.
If he looked a solid 6-2 I could maybe open the door to him being 6-3, but he didn't even look that tall.
He's shorter than 6-3
6-4 for Merriman is crazy.
If he looked a solid 6-2 I could maybe open the door to him being 6-3, but he didn't even look that tall.
He's shorter than 6-3
Canson said on 14/Oct/18
@Viper: wish there were better pics of Merriman with Jared Gaither or Vernon Davis. Davis looked about his listed height 6’3” and Gaither Looks 6’8” (combine shows 6’8 5/8 but morning height)
@Viper: wish there were better pics of Merriman with Jared Gaither or Vernon Davis. Davis looked about his listed height 6’3” and Gaither Looks 6’8” (combine shows 6’8 5/8 but morning height)
viper said on 14/Oct/18
Merriman has never looked the same height as 6-3 Vernon, much less taller
Merriman has never looked the same height as 6-3 Vernon, much less taller
viper said on 13/Oct/18
Merriman looks 6-6 If you believe Wilson's 6-1 listing lol
Merriman looks 6-6 If you believe Wilson's 6-1 listing lol
viper said on 13/Oct/18
How do some of these other 6-2 guys like Tyus Bowser and Terence Garvin look 6-4-6-5.
Terence made Sinbad look 5-11 on a perfectly flat looking conference room floor.
How do some of these other 6-2 guys like Tyus Bowser and Terence Garvin look 6-4-6-5.
Terence made Sinbad look 5-11 on a perfectly flat looking conference room floor.
viper said on 13/Oct/18
7-1 listed Ronnie Aguilar with James Wilson. Click Here
Merriman with James Wilson Click Here
Merriman looks 6-2 comparing the 2. A commenter states James looks 5-9.
7-1 listed Ronnie Aguilar with James Wilson. Click Here
Merriman with James Wilson Click Here
Merriman looks 6-2 comparing the 2. A commenter states James looks 5-9.
viper said on 13/Oct/18
The 6-2 listed John Cusack gets guessed a lot at 6-3ish.
I thought he was originally shorter than that.
The 6-2 listed John Cusack gets guessed a lot at 6-3ish.
I thought he was originally shorter than that.
Andrea said on 12/Oct/18
Rising, it is possible that Shawne's head size is a bit enhanced there, but nonetheless I believe he has a naturally bigger head size and eyelevel than Terry. Plus, if you look at the background, it looks like there's also some tilt in Terry's favor, so the height difference between them is probably no less than 2 inches in that picture. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that the actual height difference between them is as much as that, but I certainly have a hard time believing that they're only within half an inch of each other, which would be the case if Shawne was truly as low as 6'2.5 and Terry 6'2-6'2.25.
But again, that's just one of the many reasons why I struggle to see him as low as that, considering that this how he looks with people who were supposedly measured between 6'2 and 6'3, so anywhere around that 6'2.5 mark:
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
Other than looking taller than 6'3+ measured guys, such as Shaun Philips, Nick Hardwick, Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis, of course.
As for Armie Hammer's pic, I am well aware of the fact that a pic like that is hardly conclusive, but it goes to show that he can even look taller than guys who are supposedly over 6'4, like Armie (although I personally have never guessed him much over 6'4), which certainly makes that 6'2.5 figure even harder to believe (let alone viper's 6'1.5-6'2 "estimate"). (Also, bear in mind that Armie is a guy who generally stands with great posture in pics, so I highly doubt he could potentially be standing much worse than Shawne, and in fact he seems to be standing quite well there.)
That being said, me neither, I still haven't made up my mind yet, but, as I said, I certainly have a hard time believing he's as low as 6'2.5 (or even lower), considering how often he looks noticeably taller than that.
Rising, it is possible that Shawne's head size is a bit enhanced there, but nonetheless I believe he has a naturally bigger head size and eyelevel than Terry. Plus, if you look at the background, it looks like there's also some tilt in Terry's favor, so the height difference between them is probably no less than 2 inches in that picture. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that the actual height difference between them is as much as that, but I certainly have a hard time believing that they're only within half an inch of each other, which would be the case if Shawne was truly as low as 6'2.5 and Terry 6'2-6'2.25.
But again, that's just one of the many reasons why I struggle to see him as low as that, considering that this how he looks with people who were supposedly measured between 6'2 and 6'3, so anywhere around that 6'2.5 mark:
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
Other than looking taller than 6'3+ measured guys, such as Shaun Philips, Nick Hardwick, Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis, of course.
As for Armie Hammer's pic, I am well aware of the fact that a pic like that is hardly conclusive, but it goes to show that he can even look taller than guys who are supposedly over 6'4, like Armie (although I personally have never guessed him much over 6'4), which certainly makes that 6'2.5 figure even harder to believe (let alone viper's 6'1.5-6'2 "estimate"). (Also, bear in mind that Armie is a guy who generally stands with great posture in pics, so I highly doubt he could potentially be standing much worse than Shawne, and in fact he seems to be standing quite well there.)
That being said, me neither, I still haven't made up my mind yet, but, as I said, I certainly have a hard time believing he's as low as 6'2.5 (or even lower), considering how often he looks noticeably taller than that.
Canson said on 11/Oct/18
@Rising: the combine heights are all early morning however. So Osgood is likely 6’4.5 or 6’4 3/8. I’ve seen Merriman with Shaquille Calhoun who also measured 6’4 3/8 (morning) and Calhoun is at least an inch taller which again puts Merriman at a solid 6’3 best case. Marcellus Wiley looks taller than Merriman imho and we aren’t sure if Wiley is a legit 6’4”. If he measured that at the combine, then I can bank on him being lower than that in the afternoon. I don’t have Merriman as low as Viper but 6’2.5 imho
@Rising: the combine heights are all early morning however. So Osgood is likely 6’4.5 or 6’4 3/8. I’ve seen Merriman with Shaquille Calhoun who also measured 6’4 3/8 (morning) and Calhoun is at least an inch taller which again puts Merriman at a solid 6’3 best case. Marcellus Wiley looks taller than Merriman imho and we aren’t sure if Wiley is a legit 6’4”. If he measured that at the combine, then I can bank on him being lower than that in the afternoon. I don’t have Merriman as low as Viper but 6’2.5 imho
Canson said on 10/Oct/18
@Viper: I could buy flat 6’2” for him. 6’1.5 looks a bit short. He may even be over 6’2” as I’d have guessed 6’2.5 in many pics. That’s why he and Davis can look close in height at times although i still give the edge to Davis
@Viper: I could buy flat 6’2” for him. 6’1.5 looks a bit short. He may even be over 6’2” as I’d have guessed 6’2.5 in many pics. That’s why he and Davis can look close in height at times although i still give the edge to Davis
viper said on 10/Oct/18
A 6-2 Shawne Merriman adds up with 6-4.5 Barkley
A 6-2 Shawne Merriman adds up with 6-4.5 Barkley
Canson said on 9/Oct/18
@Viper: Davis may be 6’2 7/8 at a low because he looks 6’3 in person. He looks within 1/2” of his combine
@Viper: Davis may be 6’2 7/8 at a low because he looks 6’3 in person. He looks within 1/2” of his combine
viper said on 9/Oct/18
A 6-2 Shawne Merriman adds up with 6-4.5 Barkley
A 6-2 Shawne Merriman adds up with 6-4.5 Barkley
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Oct/18
@Andrea: I meant all things being equal Shawne winds up looking a tiny bit shorter as in maybe 1 cm to a half inch and mostly because Shawne has about 1/8" hair while Wiley has a completely shaved head. I should have clarified what I meant by solid 6'3" range. I'll agree he looks to be dropping more height with his lean, but I don't know whether that posture difference is more than the footwear difference. Merriman standing up to Wiley's height doesn't look impossible in that photo. As for the Terry Crews pic, the top of their heads look a good 1.5" apart, maybe even 2", but do you think the difference in their head size is really as big as it looks in the photo? I honestly hadn't thought about how big either of their heads were, but it looks like about 1.5 to 2 cm difference in head size while the difference in eye level seems only around 3.5 cm difference to me since Terry's higher eye is a bit above the bottom of Merriman's nose.
Merriman does look roughly half an inch or so taller than 6'3.1" Shawn Phillips without considering there's some variables with Merriman slouching and further from the camera while Phillips is leaning in some himself. In those 2007 group photos, Shawne does look a bit taller than 6'3.75" Nick Hardwick and a bit shorter than 6'4.9" Kassim Osgood so I'd agree he looks a solid 6'4" or even a bit over in those pics depending on what the low angle does and how LT and Lorenzo Neal factor in. The pic with 6'3.5" Antonio Gates is a bit trickier, though. Gates is closer to the camera and the top of Merriman's head might still be a tiny bit higher, but he has his arms around Gates' shoulder while Gates is leaning in and actually has a higher eye level. Imo, there's too many variables in that photo. 6'3"-6'3.25" Vernon Davis is tricky too because they look very close to me in the waist up photo where they seem to be standing similarly side by side. The top of their heads can look almost indistinguishable to me, but Merriman barely has any hair and his eye level does look higher, but I can't tell from the full photo where Vernon is standing closer, but slouching off to the side. Of course there's the other photo where Vernon looks like he'd be taller: Click Here It's a flawed photo, but I think this shows how much height can vary in photos from the waist up with the camera close. Otherwise, the pic where he's looking taller posing with a supposedly 6'4.5" Armie Hammer would be pretty shocking as I think we can agree Shawne is not 6'5" since even the nurse measurement and other draft measurement put him a half inch or 5/8" below that. The photo where he towers Reggie Bush by 5" while visibly leaning does make him look like he'd easily clear 6'3" and might be closer to 6'4", but as I mentioned with some of viper's pics as well, ground level on grass is always a variable. This guy still confuses me, though as he does genuinely look a solid 6'4" in some of your photos and at least 6'3.5" in others, but then you have him in a seemingly good pic with 6'1" listed(6'1.5" combine) Adrian Peterson and he doesn't look anywhere near it. So I still haven't made up my mind yet.
@Andrea: I meant all things being equal Shawne winds up looking a tiny bit shorter as in maybe 1 cm to a half inch and mostly because Shawne has about 1/8" hair while Wiley has a completely shaved head. I should have clarified what I meant by solid 6'3" range. I'll agree he looks to be dropping more height with his lean, but I don't know whether that posture difference is more than the footwear difference. Merriman standing up to Wiley's height doesn't look impossible in that photo. As for the Terry Crews pic, the top of their heads look a good 1.5" apart, maybe even 2", but do you think the difference in their head size is really as big as it looks in the photo? I honestly hadn't thought about how big either of their heads were, but it looks like about 1.5 to 2 cm difference in head size while the difference in eye level seems only around 3.5 cm difference to me since Terry's higher eye is a bit above the bottom of Merriman's nose.
Merriman does look roughly half an inch or so taller than 6'3.1" Shawn Phillips without considering there's some variables with Merriman slouching and further from the camera while Phillips is leaning in some himself. In those 2007 group photos, Shawne does look a bit taller than 6'3.75" Nick Hardwick and a bit shorter than 6'4.9" Kassim Osgood so I'd agree he looks a solid 6'4" or even a bit over in those pics depending on what the low angle does and how LT and Lorenzo Neal factor in. The pic with 6'3.5" Antonio Gates is a bit trickier, though. Gates is closer to the camera and the top of Merriman's head might still be a tiny bit higher, but he has his arms around Gates' shoulder while Gates is leaning in and actually has a higher eye level. Imo, there's too many variables in that photo. 6'3"-6'3.25" Vernon Davis is tricky too because they look very close to me in the waist up photo where they seem to be standing similarly side by side. The top of their heads can look almost indistinguishable to me, but Merriman barely has any hair and his eye level does look higher, but I can't tell from the full photo where Vernon is standing closer, but slouching off to the side. Of course there's the other photo where Vernon looks like he'd be taller: Click Here It's a flawed photo, but I think this shows how much height can vary in photos from the waist up with the camera close. Otherwise, the pic where he's looking taller posing with a supposedly 6'4.5" Armie Hammer would be pretty shocking as I think we can agree Shawne is not 6'5" since even the nurse measurement and other draft measurement put him a half inch or 5/8" below that. The photo where he towers Reggie Bush by 5" while visibly leaning does make him look like he'd easily clear 6'3" and might be closer to 6'4", but as I mentioned with some of viper's pics as well, ground level on grass is always a variable. This guy still confuses me, though as he does genuinely look a solid 6'4" in some of your photos and at least 6'3.5" in others, but then you have him in a seemingly good pic with 6'1" listed(6'1.5" combine) Adrian Peterson and he doesn't look anywhere near it. So I still haven't made up my mind yet.
viper said on 9/Oct/18
6-2 Jonathan Allen looks taller with 6-3 Dexter Manley than Merriman does. Click Here
6-2 Jonathan Allen looks taller with 6-3 Dexter Manley than Merriman does. Click Here
viper said on 8/Oct/18
6-3 Vernon is taller than Merriman in pics and video
6-3 Vernon is taller than Merriman in pics and video
viper said on 8/Oct/18
There was a pic from 2005 where 6-3 Vernon was clearly taller. I remember Vegas commenting on it.
And Merriman looks 6-1.5 in that 2006 pic, even If it's tilted a bit. That's 1.5 inches at least.
There was a pic from 2005 where 6-3 Vernon was clearly taller. I remember Vegas commenting on it.
And Merriman looks 6-1.5 in that 2006 pic, even If it's tilted a bit. That's 1.5 inches at least.
viper said on 8/Oct/18
Flat 6-2 is what he really is
Flat 6-2 is what he really is
viper said on 8/Oct/18
I'd be surprised If Merriman is the same height as 6-2.5 Wiz
I'd be surprised If Merriman is the same height as 6-2.5 Wiz
Canson said on 8/Oct/18
@Rising and Viper: imho 6’3” would be a good start for him esp since Rob has a lot of other athletes 1/2” or so taller than they would measure at a low. Not fully convinced he’s as low as Viper pegged him (sub 6’2) but I can totally buy solid 6’2 range to a weak 6’3”
@Rising and Viper: imho 6’3” would be a good start for him esp since Rob has a lot of other athletes 1/2” or so taller than they would measure at a low. Not fully convinced he’s as low as Viper pegged him (sub 6’2) but I can totally buy solid 6’2 range to a weak 6’3”
Andrea said on 8/Oct/18
Not so sure about that, Rising. I don't think Merriman looks any shorter than Wiley there. And while it is true that Wiley isn't standing as tall as he can, so isn't Merriman, who I think could be losing even more height than Wiley with that stance (albeit in bigger footwear). All things considered, I doubt Shawne would be much different than him, let alone over one inch shorter...
As for Crews, if he is somewhere in 6'2 range, I think Shawne looks much closer to 6'4 than 6'3 with him, or at least he looks like that in that picture I have posted: Click Here
Not so sure about that, Rising. I don't think Merriman looks any shorter than Wiley there. And while it is true that Wiley isn't standing as tall as he can, so isn't Merriman, who I think could be losing even more height than Wiley with that stance (albeit in bigger footwear). All things considered, I doubt Shawne would be much different than him, let alone over one inch shorter...
As for Crews, if he is somewhere in 6'2 range, I think Shawne looks much closer to 6'4 than 6'3 with him, or at least he looks like that in that picture I have posted: Click Here
184guy2 said on 8/Oct/18
@Andrea
I'm assuming that Armie is dropping more height because he is bending his knees . Shawne is loosing in his spine but the legs are straight . Anyway , he looks taller in the pic that you sent but we can't see the full body to analyze the posture ans shoes ( probably similar ) . With Marcellus I also would say that he look about 6'3 or just over . Don't think he is only 6'2 though .
@Andrea
I'm assuming that Armie is dropping more height because he is bending his knees . Shawne is loosing in his spine but the legs are straight . Anyway , he looks taller in the pic that you sent but we can't see the full body to analyze the posture ans shoes ( probably similar ) . With Marcellus I also would say that he look about 6'3 or just over . Don't think he is only 6'2 though .
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Oct/18
@Andrea: Thanks, I appreciate that. As for that pic, Merriman does only look about 1 cm to a half inch shorter than Wiley there while leaning, though Wiley's stance does look like a bit like the one Hugh Jackman does that drops some height. Without knowing the exact shoes they're wearing it looks like Merriman could have near 1 cm or at least 1/4" advantage as he has a decent heel while Wiley looks to have flat sneakers. All things considered, I'd still say Shawn looks solid 6'3" range there, which he did also look with Terry Crews as I mentioned. I'm not sure about him yet either so I haven't entered a guess. I'll go back with your posts about as far as I did with viper's posts and even then there's no guarantee I'll be sure. It's pretty crazy that between some of the early listings and his own claim, his height has been given anywhere from 6'2" to 6'5".
@Andrea: Thanks, I appreciate that. As for that pic, Merriman does only look about 1 cm to a half inch shorter than Wiley there while leaning, though Wiley's stance does look like a bit like the one Hugh Jackman does that drops some height. Without knowing the exact shoes they're wearing it looks like Merriman could have near 1 cm or at least 1/4" advantage as he has a decent heel while Wiley looks to have flat sneakers. All things considered, I'd still say Shawn looks solid 6'3" range there, which he did also look with Terry Crews as I mentioned. I'm not sure about him yet either so I haven't entered a guess. I'll go back with your posts about as far as I did with viper's posts and even then there's no guarantee I'll be sure. It's pretty crazy that between some of the early listings and his own claim, his height has been given anywhere from 6'2" to 6'5".
Canson said on 7/Oct/18
@Viper: even 6’3” is a good start
@Viper: even 6’3” is a good start
Canson said on 7/Oct/18
@184guy: most I could buy is 6’3” but I’d say 6’2.5
@184guy: most I could buy is 6’3” but I’d say 6’2.5
viper said on 7/Oct/18
6-2ish Wiz sure looks longer
6-2ish Wiz sure looks longer
Andrea said on 7/Oct/18
Yeah, 184guy2, that video is obviously useless and proves nothing (like basically every other video that viper has posted so far), but the same goes for that picture with Hammer, in which none of them are standing tall and it's obviously impossible to tell how much height either of them are losing with those stances. In this other pic Shawne actually looks a bit taller than Armie: Click Here
Yeah, 184guy2, that video is obviously useless and proves nothing (like basically every other video that viper has posted so far), but the same goes for that picture with Hammer, in which none of them are standing tall and it's obviously impossible to tell how much height either of them are losing with those stances. In this other pic Shawne actually looks a bit taller than Armie: Click Here
Myself said on 6/Oct/18
@viper
I think he's not over 6'2.5.
@viper
I think he's not over 6'2.5.
viper said on 6/Oct/18
If I had a chance to win Powerball money and the question was is Merriman 6-2, I'd say yes without blinking. He was measured as that and looks it in person. In fact looked a weak 6-2.
If I had a chance to win Powerball money and the question was is Merriman 6-2, I'd say yes without blinking. He was measured as that and looks it in person. In fact looked a weak 6-2.
viper said on 6/Oct/18
6-2 Tyus Bowser looks 6-4-6-5.
6-2 Terence Garvin looked 6-5 with 6-2 Sinbad
6-2 Tyus Bowser looks 6-4-6-5.
6-2 Terence Garvin looked 6-5 with 6-2 Sinbad
viper said on 6/Oct/18
"you always present very-well structured, logical and, above all, unbiased arguments, without the need to be toxic and insult others to prove your points"
So basically the opposite of you. We knew that.
"you always present very-well structured, logical and, above all, unbiased arguments, without the need to be toxic and insult others to prove your points"
So basically the opposite of you. We knew that.
184guy2 said on 5/Oct/18
@Viper
Wiz is 100% nearer 6'3 than 6'2.5
The actual listing is the bare minimum
It's not a good video to conclude anything
But I post a few time in this page a picture where Merriman , in 1'-1'.25 sneaks with better bosture and camera angle advantage , looks no taller than a Barefoot 6'4.5 Armie Hammer .
Click Here
That would put him 6'3.25 max
@Viper
Wiz is 100% nearer 6'3 than 6'2.5
The actual listing is the bare minimum
It's not a good video to conclude anything
But I post a few time in this page a picture where Merriman , in 1'-1'.25 sneaks with better bosture and camera angle advantage , looks no taller than a Barefoot 6'4.5 Armie Hammer .
Click Here
That would put him 6'3.25 max
viper said on 5/Oct/18
Wiz certainly has longer legs than Merriman
Wiz certainly has longer legs than Merriman
viper said on 5/Oct/18
Downgrading Merriman to 6-2.5 would be a good start
Downgrading Merriman to 6-2.5 would be a good start
Andrea said on 5/Oct/18
Rising, while I agree that he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 with some of those guys you have mentioned (which I've never denied, and which is the reason why I'm still not completely sure about him, unlike I can be with other celebrities), that still doesn't explain how he manages to look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 MEASURED athletes (take a look at the older comments, to see what I'm talking about)... (As for that pic with Marcellus Wiley, I think Shawne is simply dropping more height, other than having some camera disadvantage, because they actually look quite close here, all things considered: Click Here )
That being said, I must say that it's always a pleasure to read your comments and have a discussion with you because, unlike certain other funny posters on here, you always present very-well structured, logical and, above all, unbiased arguments, without the need to be toxic and insult others to prove your points.
Rising, while I agree that he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 with some of those guys you have mentioned (which I've never denied, and which is the reason why I'm still not completely sure about him, unlike I can be with other celebrities), that still doesn't explain how he manages to look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 MEASURED athletes (take a look at the older comments, to see what I'm talking about)... (As for that pic with Marcellus Wiley, I think Shawne is simply dropping more height, other than having some camera disadvantage, because they actually look quite close here, all things considered: Click Here )
That being said, I must say that it's always a pleasure to read your comments and have a discussion with you because, unlike certain other funny posters on here, you always present very-well structured, logical and, above all, unbiased arguments, without the need to be toxic and insult others to prove your points.
viper said on 5/Oct/18
Laron Profit is the guy that really surprised me at a Maryland basketball game. He looked just 6-4. And then I saw he was listed at 6-4 during his draft year.
Laron Profit is the guy that really surprised me at a Maryland basketball game. He looked just 6-4. And then I saw he was listed at 6-4 during his draft year.
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Rising: I don’t have any trouble believing Viper saw him either especially considering I also saw him and Viper mentioned the game that he saw him at and it was the one I was at. He also mentioned the details (when he was suspended from SD). I didnt see him up close (hundreds of feet away) but Viper did. I think with Dream he genuinely didn’t believe Viper’s estimate. However, with others, it’s because they don’t like him. The argument in question here began on Boris’s page and Viper only became a subject when his estimate didn’t align “properly” although he’s guessed by most people as under 6’4 as well
@Rising: I don’t have any trouble believing Viper saw him either especially considering I also saw him and Viper mentioned the game that he saw him at and it was the one I was at. He also mentioned the details (when he was suspended from SD). I didnt see him up close (hundreds of feet away) but Viper did. I think with Dream he genuinely didn’t believe Viper’s estimate. However, with others, it’s because they don’t like him. The argument in question here began on Boris’s page and Viper only became a subject when his estimate didn’t align “properly” although he’s guessed by most people as under 6’4 as well
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Christian: very true! And guys who are measured in the morning may be right at their morning height (out of bed) if that is the first or second activity they get. I wonder how John wall and Damian Lillard measured what they did. Dwayne wade is another one. His may have been afternoon and he never looks that tall. I actually would believe that to be a shoe measurement that was placed in the wrong column
@Christian: very true! And guys who are measured in the morning may be right at their morning height (out of bed) if that is the first or second activity they get. I wonder how John wall and Damian Lillard measured what they did. Dwayne wade is another one. His may have been afternoon and he never looks that tall. I actually would believe that to be a shoe measurement that was placed in the wrong column
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Rising: Baker showed up late to the Senior Bowl and was measured at a different time than everyone else and was only 6’0 3/8. This was due to a family issue. His combine is 6’0 5/8. My guess is his low is 6’0 1/4 honestly. So 6’0.25 against 6’2.5 makes sense. Merriman looks at best a 6’3” some times but perhaps a weak 6’3. Even a strong 6’2” is possible.
I wholeheartedly agree with you as I said the same thing when he first got a page! 6’3” is a good start since his pro day is 6’2.4. Not sure if that’s 6’2 1/2 or 6’2 3/8. But 6’3 is a lot closer to the truth than 6’4 3/8. I don’t know where that number came from. Likely had some help.
@Rising: Baker showed up late to the Senior Bowl and was measured at a different time than everyone else and was only 6’0 3/8. This was due to a family issue. His combine is 6’0 5/8. My guess is his low is 6’0 1/4 honestly. So 6’0.25 against 6’2.5 makes sense. Merriman looks at best a 6’3” some times but perhaps a weak 6’3. Even a strong 6’2” is possible.
I wholeheartedly agree with you as I said the same thing when he first got a page! 6’3” is a good start since his pro day is 6’2.4. Not sure if that’s 6’2 1/2 or 6’2 3/8. But 6’3 is a lot closer to the truth than 6’4 3/8. I don’t know where that number came from. Likely had some help.
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Rising: Baker showed up late to the Senior Bowl and was measured at a different time than everyone else and was only 6’0 3/8. This was due to a family issue. His combine is 6’0 5/8. My guess is his low is 6’0 1/4 honestly. So 6’0.25 against 6’2.5 makes sense. Merriman looks at best a 6’3” some times but perhaps a weak 6’3. Even a strong 6’2” is possible.
@Rising: Baker showed up late to the Senior Bowl and was measured at a different time than everyone else and was only 6’0 3/8. This was due to a family issue. His combine is 6’0 5/8. My guess is his low is 6’0 1/4 honestly. So 6’0.25 against 6’2.5 makes sense. Merriman looks at best a 6’3” some times but perhaps a weak 6’3. Even a strong 6’2” is possible.
viper said on 3/Oct/18
Myself, you think he's 6-1?. 6-1.75 is not out of the question imo.
Myself, you think he's 6-1?. 6-1.75 is not out of the question imo.
viper said on 3/Oct/18
I'm not from Maryland. My dad grew up there and all my relatives on his side of the family reside there. I've lived in NC all my life. I grew up a Maryland and Baltimore Orioles fan.
I'm not from Maryland. My dad grew up there and all my relatives on his side of the family reside there. I've lived in NC all my life. I grew up a Maryland and Baltimore Orioles fan.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 3/Oct/18
@Canson
True, some (or maybe even many) players will intentionally lie down or do certain stretches, to preserve as much height as possible, so that they'll measure as tall as possible.
@Canson
True, some (or maybe even many) players will intentionally lie down or do certain stretches, to preserve as much height as possible, so that they'll measure as tall as possible.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
Looks like they mismeasured JuJu Smith at the combine. He was measured 6-0 at his pro day. Click Here
Looks like they mismeasured JuJu Smith at the combine. He was measured 6-0 at his pro day. Click Here
Canson said on 2/Oct/18
@Viper: just because they measured that late doesn’t negate the fact that they may not be true afternoon measurements. Granted there is a much better chance that they are “closer” to a person’s low than an early morning but who is to say someone didn’t lie down all day before being measured. Kevin Love appears to have as 2008 measurements were afternoon but Love looks more 6’7 (and this is to people who’ve met him such as Dan majerle and the other post I made on his page with an encounter of another person) than 6’8 despite a 6’7.75 measurement. Love also looks 6’7” or so with Joakim Noah and Lebron who is likely no higher than 6’7 or 6’6.75
@Viper: just because they measured that late doesn’t negate the fact that they may not be true afternoon measurements. Granted there is a much better chance that they are “closer” to a person’s low than an early morning but who is to say someone didn’t lie down all day before being measured. Kevin Love appears to have as 2008 measurements were afternoon but Love looks more 6’7 (and this is to people who’ve met him such as Dan majerle and the other post I made on his page with an encounter of another person) than 6’8 despite a 6’7.75 measurement. Love also looks 6’7” or so with Joakim Noah and Lebron who is likely no higher than 6’7 or 6’6.75
Myself said on 2/Oct/18
I haven't seen too many pics, but do you guys think he could be an occasional lift wearer? Because from those barefoot boxing videos i have a hard time seeing a legit 6'2 man, but maybe his proportions do not advantage him or i'm not the best at guessing.
You also should not forget that some guys, like Ronaldo for example, use to stand on tip toes (expecially with taller people) during photos!
I haven't seen too many pics, but do you guys think he could be an occasional lift wearer? Because from those barefoot boxing videos i have a hard time seeing a legit 6'2 man, but maybe his proportions do not advantage him or i'm not the best at guessing.
You also should not forget that some guys, like Ronaldo for example, use to stand on tip toes (expecially with taller people) during photos!
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Oct/18
I don't have any trouble believing viper saw Merriman, especially since he's said he's from Maryland for years. I'm from New York and I've seen a number of Knicks players. Reviewing some of the comparisons viper has posted in a vacuum, Merriman doesn't look more than 2"-2.5" taller than 5'11.5" Rampage Jackson even considering he's tilting his head down and doesn't really look more than 6'2" with 5'11" Fabolous without knowing what role posture and ground level played. The difference with 184.5-184.8 cm Ray Lewis can vary due to posture and camera distance, but it's never less than 3.5 cm or never more than 7 cm, imo. Solid 6'6"-6'6.25" Melo does look near 4" taller as well since Merriman is just above his eyes or lower eyebrow and 6'6" Stephen Jackson actually looks even taller, but he does have better posture and his arms on both Merriman's shoulder and 6'4" combine measured Marcellus Wiley and Merriman looks near 2" shorter than Wiley, but Wiley might have the camera advantage and better posture. The apparently 6'3" or so Dean Muhtadi's eye level is higher than Merriman's while Merriman's cap ends up above Dean's hair for whatever that's worth. Shawn Kemp was supposedly 6'8.75" before the '89 draft and is leaning more than Merriman, but Merriman's hat only winds up around the lower part of Kemp's eyes. Merriman also looks about 2" taller than 6'0.5" Trump with neither standing with military posture and Merriman looks 2"-2.5" taller than 6'0.6" Baker Mayfield with seemingly worse posture, but Merriman has his arm around Mayfield's shouler.
Footwear is unknown in some of these and posture and camera advantage can vary, but he does look 6'2" in at least a couple lending some credence to viper seeing him at that. Even if Merriman and Seagal are more or less identical with the picture adjusted, Seagal's photo with Rob shows he can look 6'2" in photos meaning it doesn't necessarily disprove viper's claim. In fairness, I'll go back and look at some of Andrea's counter-arguments since Merriman did look easily 6'3" range to me with Terry Crews and if you believe the nurse's measurement then Merriman would have to be measured earlier and in some thick footwear like Nike Shox or Timberlands to wind up closer to 6'2". If the 6'2.4" was his actual measurement rather than a misprint, I'd be skeptical he'd be shorter than that, but I'm also skeptical he'd be any taller than his 6'3" college listing and at the very least, I could see listing Merriman no taller than Seagal as a good start.
I don't have any trouble believing viper saw Merriman, especially since he's said he's from Maryland for years. I'm from New York and I've seen a number of Knicks players. Reviewing some of the comparisons viper has posted in a vacuum, Merriman doesn't look more than 2"-2.5" taller than 5'11.5" Rampage Jackson even considering he's tilting his head down and doesn't really look more than 6'2" with 5'11" Fabolous without knowing what role posture and ground level played. The difference with 184.5-184.8 cm Ray Lewis can vary due to posture and camera distance, but it's never less than 3.5 cm or never more than 7 cm, imo. Solid 6'6"-6'6.25" Melo does look near 4" taller as well since Merriman is just above his eyes or lower eyebrow and 6'6" Stephen Jackson actually looks even taller, but he does have better posture and his arms on both Merriman's shoulder and 6'4" combine measured Marcellus Wiley and Merriman looks near 2" shorter than Wiley, but Wiley might have the camera advantage and better posture. The apparently 6'3" or so Dean Muhtadi's eye level is higher than Merriman's while Merriman's cap ends up above Dean's hair for whatever that's worth. Shawn Kemp was supposedly 6'8.75" before the '89 draft and is leaning more than Merriman, but Merriman's hat only winds up around the lower part of Kemp's eyes. Merriman also looks about 2" taller than 6'0.5" Trump with neither standing with military posture and Merriman looks 2"-2.5" taller than 6'0.6" Baker Mayfield with seemingly worse posture, but Merriman has his arm around Mayfield's shouler.
Footwear is unknown in some of these and posture and camera advantage can vary, but he does look 6'2" in at least a couple lending some credence to viper seeing him at that. Even if Merriman and Seagal are more or less identical with the picture adjusted, Seagal's photo with Rob shows he can look 6'2" in photos meaning it doesn't necessarily disprove viper's claim. In fairness, I'll go back and look at some of Andrea's counter-arguments since Merriman did look easily 6'3" range to me with Terry Crews and if you believe the nurse's measurement then Merriman would have to be measured earlier and in some thick footwear like Nike Shox or Timberlands to wind up closer to 6'2". If the 6'2.4" was his actual measurement rather than a misprint, I'd be skeptical he'd be shorter than that, but I'm also skeptical he'd be any taller than his 6'3" college listing and at the very least, I could see listing Merriman no taller than Seagal as a good start.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
Just showing that a 6-2 guy like Bowser can look 6-4-6-5.
Just showing that a 6-2 guy like Bowser can look 6-4-6-5.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
2002 senior bowl measuring as late as 7:00 pm. Click Here
Ovie Mughelli measured over an inch shorter at 6-0.0. He measured 6-1.1 at the combine.
2002 senior bowl measuring as late as 7:00 pm. Click Here
Ovie Mughelli measured over an inch shorter at 6-0.0. He measured 6-1.1 at the combine.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
It was Jimmy Smith Ozzie was referring to, not Mosely
It was Jimmy Smith Ozzie was referring to, not Mosely
Canson said on 1/Oct/18
@Viper: Mosley could be the height tou have for Merriman. Combine is 6’2 flat so he’s likely 6’1.5 or 6’1 5/8. Maybe he had thick socks??? At his pro day
@Viper: Mosley could be the height tou have for Merriman. Combine is 6’2 flat so he’s likely 6’1.5 or 6’1 5/8. Maybe he had thick socks??? At his pro day
Canson said on 1/Oct/18
@Viper: wouldn’t surprise me if Mosley is sub 6’2” at a low especially if Ozzie saw a difference with him and he’s 6’2.5 out of his mouth
@Viper: wouldn’t surprise me if Mosley is sub 6’2” at a low especially if Ozzie saw a difference with him and he’s 6’2.5 out of his mouth
viper said on 1/Oct/18
6-2 Tyus Bowser looking the same height with 6-5 Cameron Malveaux. Click Here
Tyus Looks 6-4 with 6-0 Fred Ross. Click Here
6-2 Tyus Bowser looking the same height with 6-5 Cameron Malveaux. Click Here
Tyus Looks 6-4 with 6-0 Fred Ross. Click Here
viper said on 30/Sep/18
6-2 Mosley with Ray Lewis. Click Here
He looks taller with Ray then Merriman does.
6-2 Mosley with Ray Lewis. Click Here
He looks taller with Ray then Merriman does.
Canson said on 30/Sep/18
@Viper: the Senior Bowl measurements take place in the morning now a days. Said that Wentz was measured in the AM. It’s identical to his combine so I wonder if he’s not really 6’4.75 or 7/8 at a low. Odd because I always thought he was a legit 6’5 guy at a low. He looks taller than Foles
Click Here
@Viper: the Senior Bowl measurements take place in the morning now a days. Said that Wentz was measured in the AM. It’s identical to his combine so I wonder if he’s not really 6’4.75 or 7/8 at a low. Odd because I always thought he was a legit 6’5 guy at a low. He looks taller than Foles
Click Here
Canson said on 30/Sep/18
@Christian and Dream: while I agree that 6’1.5 seems low, I could see a flat 6’2” or 6’2.25. The difference may have been slightly less than Viper thought. Could’ve been where he also had slight advantage in footwear and or posture. It may have been something like a 2 cm difference instead of 1.25. Viper mentioned that he’s around 6’2.75 at a low so 6’1.5-6’2 would mean about an inch. 2cm could easily be mistake for an inch and if he had footwear or posture difference or underestimated him that may explain it
@Christian and Dream: while I agree that 6’1.5 seems low, I could see a flat 6’2” or 6’2.25. The difference may have been slightly less than Viper thought. Could’ve been where he also had slight advantage in footwear and or posture. It may have been something like a 2 cm difference instead of 1.25. Viper mentioned that he’s around 6’2.75 at a low so 6’1.5-6’2 would mean about an inch. 2cm could easily be mistake for an inch and if he had footwear or posture difference or underestimated him that may explain it
viper said on 29/Sep/18
They just called a 6-4 tight end 6-7 during the Penn state-Ohio State game.
I don't understand announcers inflating players heights inches more than even their listed height!!
They just called a 6-4 tight end 6-7 during the Penn state-Ohio State game.
I don't understand announcers inflating players heights inches more than even their listed height!!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Sep/18
@viper
It's not impossible that you wore an extra pair of insoles or orthotics when you met him, and had footwear advantage without realizing it.
@viper
It's not impossible that you wore an extra pair of insoles or orthotics when you met him, and had footwear advantage without realizing it.
viper said on 28/Sep/18
I think I was just wearing regular sneakers. I doubt I had a footwear advantage.
There use to be a bunch of pics of him at that game in 2006 on a photo sharing site standing on the sideline and the pavement circle around the stadium. Looked like regular sneakers
I think I was just wearing regular sneakers. I doubt I had a footwear advantage.
There use to be a bunch of pics of him at that game in 2006 on a photo sharing site standing on the sideline and the pavement circle around the stadium. Looked like regular sneakers
viper said on 28/Sep/18
I see Leveon Bell was measured at 6-1.3 and 6-1.6
I see Leveon Bell was measured at 6-1.3 and 6-1.6
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 28/Sep/18
I don't really see Merriman being as low as 6'2", let alone 6'1.5". He's more 6'2.5" but not higher than that. His 6'2" Pro Day listing could've been rounded down from the 6'2.4" Senior Bowl measurement. No offense to Viper, but he could've either lowballed Merriman's height a bit, or he had a lot of footwear advantage over Merriman when he met him. That's just my opinion though.
I don't really see Merriman being as low as 6'2", let alone 6'1.5". He's more 6'2.5" but not higher than that. His 6'2" Pro Day listing could've been rounded down from the 6'2.4" Senior Bowl measurement. No offense to Viper, but he could've either lowballed Merriman's height a bit, or he had a lot of footwear advantage over Merriman when he met him. That's just my opinion though.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/Sep/18
@Canson I definitely see 6'2.5" as a possibility. I just don't think he's as low as 6'1.5". Viper maybe right about Merriman. Also, for that supposed measurement, it's very likely Shawne had shoes on.
@Viper I apologize for my rude statement. Since you met Shawne Merriman, I'm sure you knew he was well under 6'4". Based on what you've seen, it's very possible that 6'2" is the best listing.
@Canson I definitely see 6'2.5" as a possibility. I just don't think he's as low as 6'1.5". Viper maybe right about Merriman. Also, for that supposed measurement, it's very likely Shawne had shoes on.
@Viper I apologize for my rude statement. Since you met Shawne Merriman, I'm sure you knew he was well under 6'4". Based on what you've seen, it's very possible that 6'2" is the best listing.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/Sep/18
@Canson
Yeah, maybe I took it too far. I still agree with Merriman being well under 6'4" for sure. 6'3" flat or 6'2.5" wouldn't come out as a surprise. However, I don't think he's as low as 6'1.5".
@Canson
Yeah, maybe I took it too far. I still agree with Merriman being well under 6'4" for sure. 6'3" flat or 6'2.5" wouldn't come out as a surprise. However, I don't think he's as low as 6'1.5".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 26/Sep/18
@viper
Merriman was leaning and lowering his head down though. The difference would've looked around 6 inches had Merriman stood up better. I don't believe that Cung is 5'9" though, maybe around 5'8.5".
@viper
Merriman was leaning and lowering his head down though. The difference would've looked around 6 inches had Merriman stood up better. I don't believe that Cung is 5'9" though, maybe around 5'8.5".
Canson said on 26/Sep/18
Viper: it’s also possible you had a footwear advantage on him. He may only be 6’2 or so and be 6’2.5 or 6’2.75 in shoes or you may have had a thicker shoe than him and been over 6’4 in yours.
You just said it perfectly with Junior Seau
Viper: it’s also possible you had a footwear advantage on him. He may only be 6’2 or so and be 6’2.5 or 6’2.75 in shoes or you may have had a thicker shoe than him and been over 6’4 in yours.
You just said it perfectly with Junior Seau
Canson said on 26/Sep/18
@Viper: his pro day was 6’2.4 either 6’2 3/8 or 1/2. He’s prob not less than a full 6’2”. Maybe he didn’t stand straight with you only because that would be an awful lot to lose. Most lose 1/4-3/8” after an hour or so of waking which is why combines are usually about 3/8 or 1/2 above senior bowl measurements
@Dream: to be fair Rudy Gay has played ball with Merriman and called him 6’2.” As well, the MD game Viper is referring to, I saw Merriman at that same game but wasn’t as close to him as Viper was. I assumed his 6’3 or 6’4 listing was prob accurate because I couldn’t get close enough to size him up. While 6’1.5-6’2 may be a bit low, Viper may be closer to the truth than the average person saying 6’4 or 6’3-6’4 range. Viper also guessed a couple other guys more accurately like Rising said. Not always popular guess but sometimes the unpopular guess is the right one. My opinion is 6’2” range and doesn’t dip under if not 6’2.5
@Viper: his pro day was 6’2.4 either 6’2 3/8 or 1/2. He’s prob not less than a full 6’2”. Maybe he didn’t stand straight with you only because that would be an awful lot to lose. Most lose 1/4-3/8” after an hour or so of waking which is why combines are usually about 3/8 or 1/2 above senior bowl measurements
@Dream: to be fair Rudy Gay has played ball with Merriman and called him 6’2.” As well, the MD game Viper is referring to, I saw Merriman at that same game but wasn’t as close to him as Viper was. I assumed his 6’3 or 6’4 listing was prob accurate because I couldn’t get close enough to size him up. While 6’1.5-6’2 may be a bit low, Viper may be closer to the truth than the average person saying 6’4 or 6’3-6’4 range. Viper also guessed a couple other guys more accurately like Rising said. Not always popular guess but sometimes the unpopular guess is the right one. My opinion is 6’2” range and doesn’t dip under if not 6’2.5
viper said on 26/Sep/18
Rudy Gay is a lying liar as well. There was no charity basketball game where he played with Merriman and said he was 6-2
Rudy Gay is a lying liar as well. There was no charity basketball game where he played with Merriman and said he was 6-2
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Merriman can look 6-1 a lot. Dream I take great offense to what you said to me
Merriman can look 6-1 a lot. Dream I take great offense to what you said to me
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Rising that pic shouldn't surprise you.
Merriman looked 6-1.5-6-2 up close
Rising that pic shouldn't surprise you.
Merriman looked 6-1.5-6-2 up close
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Junior Seau was listed at 6-5 in high school but was measured at 6-2. He could look only 6-1 a lot wearing flip flops.
Junior Seau was listed at 6-5 in high school but was measured at 6-2. He could look only 6-1 a lot wearing flip flops.
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Christian: 5’8 May make sense for Cung like Viper mentioned
@Christian: 5’8 May make sense for Cung like Viper mentioned
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Dream: I wouldn’t go that far to say he lied because according to a friend who had also met Merriman he’s around 6’2” which could mean slightly over that. I doubt he’s under it. Maybe he wasn’t standing his tallest when he met Viper. But I’d also be hard pressed to say the guy is over 6’2.5. 6’3” is tops and only sometimes do I believe. He generally looks 6’2.5. He doesn’t look 6’1 with Mitchell however. Mitchell looks 6’1-6’1.5 with Walt Williams if he’s 6’6. So Merriman looks about 6’3 in the pic
@Dream: I wouldn’t go that far to say he lied because according to a friend who had also met Merriman he’s around 6’2” which could mean slightly over that. I doubt he’s under it. Maybe he wasn’t standing his tallest when he met Viper. But I’d also be hard pressed to say the guy is over 6’2.5. 6’3” is tops and only sometimes do I believe. He generally looks 6’2.5. He doesn’t look 6’1 with Mitchell however. Mitchell looks 6’1-6’1.5 with Walt Williams if he’s 6’6. So Merriman looks about 6’3 in the pic
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Viper: I disagree. Comparing Merriman and Mitchell to Wiz and Mitchell, Merriman looks closer to 6’3” which is how he looks if Cung is a legit 5’9”. Mitchell looks 6’1.5 assuming Wiz is 6’6”.
@Viper: I disagree. Comparing Merriman and Mitchell to Wiz and Mitchell, Merriman looks closer to 6’3” which is how he looks if Cung is a legit 5’9”. Mitchell looks 6’1.5 assuming Wiz is 6’6”.
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Viper: 6’1 7/8 is possible but 6’2 also is if 6’2 3/8 equivalent to a combine measurement
@Viper: 6’1 7/8 is possible but 6’2 also is if 6’2 3/8 equivalent to a combine measurement
Dream(5'9.5") said on 25/Sep/18
@viper
I agree Merriman isn’t the full 6’4” as he’s listed, but i want to see an ‘actual’ picture of you and Merriman, unless you didn’t bother to take one. Otherwise, I only believe that you just made up the story of meeting Merriman.
@viper
I agree Merriman isn’t the full 6’4” as he’s listed, but i want to see an ‘actual’ picture of you and Merriman, unless you didn’t bother to take one. Otherwise, I only believe that you just made up the story of meeting Merriman.
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Christian, the top of Cung's head is above his eyebrows
Christian, the top of Cung's head is above his eyebrows
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