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6ft 2.81in (190cm)
6ft 2.81in (190cm)
viper said on 22/Sep/18
6-2 Ken Griffey looks taller with Mario Abdretti than Shawne Merriman does. Click Here
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6-2 Ken Griffey looks taller with Mario Abdretti than Shawne Merriman does. Click Here
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viper said on 21/Sep/18
Palmer just called Betances 6-10 lol
Palmer just called Betances 6-10 lol
viper said on 21/Sep/18
Jim Palmer can't tell height. He said I'm 6-3 and Cody Carroll is 6-7 up close.
Cody is listed at 6-5
Jim Palmer can't tell height. He said I'm 6-3 and Cody Carroll is 6-7 up close.
Cody is listed at 6-5
viper said on 21/Sep/18
He's under 6-3 Neal
He's under 6-3 Neal
viper said on 21/Sep/18
I just had a 5-9 guy at work telling me to lift something up because I'm stronger. I said really? He said yeah look at you. I said thanks for the compliment I guess. He said it's not really a compliment.
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I just had a 5-9 guy at work telling me to lift something up because I'm stronger. I said really? He said yeah look at you. I said thanks for the compliment I guess. He said it's not really a compliment.
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Canson said on 21/Sep/18
@Viper: butler is 6’5” as well. And yes Merriman is nowhere near his height. That can’t be 6’4 3/8 if Butler measured 6’5.25. Doubt Butler is a morning height. He’s 6’5” in person
@Viper: butler is 6’5” as well. And yes Merriman is nowhere near his height. That can’t be 6’4 3/8 if Butler measured 6’5.25. Doubt Butler is a morning height. He’s 6’5” in person
viper said on 21/Sep/18
I can't explain how Gates looks 6-1 there with those guys
I can't explain how Gates looks 6-1 there with those guys
Rising - 174 cm said on 21/Sep/18
Meant to comment back when that Rampage Jackson pic was posted since that one surprised me. Liam Neeson looked much taller next to Rampage in that A-Team film they did.
Meant to comment back when that Rampage Jackson pic was posted since that one surprised me. Liam Neeson looked much taller next to Rampage in that A-Team film they did.
Frost said on 20/Sep/18
You would have to believe Ray Lewis is 6'2 to believe Shawne is 6'4.
Ray barely looks his listed height next to Bill Burr as well.
You would have to believe Ray Lewis is 6'2 to believe Shawne is 6'4.
Ray barely looks his listed height next to Bill Burr as well.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 20/Sep/18
@viper
Actually, Merriman was walking while Snoop Dog was standing. Also, I don’t see a 2 inch difference.
I’m not saying Merriman is the full 6’4”. He isn’t in my eyes.
@viper
Actually, Merriman was walking while Snoop Dog was standing. Also, I don’t see a 2 inch difference.
I’m not saying Merriman is the full 6’4”. He isn’t in my eyes.
Canson said on 19/Sep/18
@Viper: I noticed Jeff Driskel is 6’4” on his combine too. Likely that the measurements on coach scout (at least some of them) are morning heights. That’s unless he was not actually measured at the combine and they used a different measurement. It seems Pro Days and Senior Bowl measurements are done early morning or at least similar to early morning these days
@Viper: I noticed Jeff Driskel is 6’4” on his combine too. Likely that the measurements on coach scout (at least some of them) are morning heights. That’s unless he was not actually measured at the combine and they used a different measurement. It seems Pro Days and Senior Bowl measurements are done early morning or at least similar to early morning these days
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: I saw the video with he and Glazer. Merriman looks nowhere near 6’4 “physically” in the video. Looks 6’2” and Larry Fitzgerald looks taller with him than Merriman
@Viper: I saw the video with he and Glazer. Merriman looks nowhere near 6’4 “physically” in the video. Looks 6’2” and Larry Fitzgerald looks taller with him than Merriman
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: those are even morning heights likely. Carlos Dunlap’s combine measurement is 6’5 3/4. And it shows 6’5 7/8. I know previously Vincent Jackson was 6’4 3/4 at the combine but 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl (from Coachscout). I think people are likely measured Early morning now a days. Dunlap likely is not noticeably taller than Christian in reality. Maybe edges him by “up to” 1/8”. I see 6’5 3/8 as Dunlap’s low and Christian comes down to 6’5.25 some days
Sam Hubbard shows 6’5 flat on his combine measurement (one source) and 6’5 3/8 on the other. Yet the coach scout has 6’5.4. Not sure if the 6’5.4 means 6’5 3/8 or 1/2 going by that source because I’ve seen .9 there before.
@Viper: those are even morning heights likely. Carlos Dunlap’s combine measurement is 6’5 3/4. And it shows 6’5 7/8. I know previously Vincent Jackson was 6’4 3/4 at the combine but 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl (from Coachscout). I think people are likely measured Early morning now a days. Dunlap likely is not noticeably taller than Christian in reality. Maybe edges him by “up to” 1/8”. I see 6’5 3/8 as Dunlap’s low and Christian comes down to 6’5.25 some days
Sam Hubbard shows 6’5 flat on his combine measurement (one source) and 6’5 3/8 on the other. Yet the coach scout has 6’5.4. Not sure if the 6’5.4 means 6’5 3/8 or 1/2 going by that source because I’ve seen .9 there before.
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: those are even morning heights likely. Carlos Dunlap’s combine measurement is 6’5 3/4. And it shows 6’5 7/8. I know previously Vincent Jackson was 6’4 3/4 at the combine but 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl (from Coachscout). I think people are likely measured Early morning now a days. Dunlap likely is not noticeably taller than Christian in reality. Maybe edges him by “up to” 1/8”. I see 6’5 3/8 as Dunlap’s low and Christian comes down to 6’5.25 some days
Sam Hubbard shows 6’5 flat on his combine measurement
@Viper: those are even morning heights likely. Carlos Dunlap’s combine measurement is 6’5 3/4. And it shows 6’5 7/8. I know previously Vincent Jackson was 6’4 3/4 at the combine but 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl (from Coachscout). I think people are likely measured Early morning now a days. Dunlap likely is not noticeably taller than Christian in reality. Maybe edges him by “up to” 1/8”. I see 6’5 3/8 as Dunlap’s low and Christian comes down to 6’5.25 some days
Sam Hubbard shows 6’5 flat on his combine measurement
viper said on 18/Sep/18
Nick Mangold is a measured 6-3.2 at the senior bowl. Demarcus Ware is 6-3.5 at the senior bowl. Suggs 6-3.3.
Gates only looks 6-1 there
Nick Mangold is a measured 6-3.2 at the senior bowl. Demarcus Ware is 6-3.5 at the senior bowl. Suggs 6-3.3.
Gates only looks 6-1 there
viper said on 18/Sep/18
2:18 mark in slo mo.
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Merriman is clearly 2 inches shorter than 6-3.5 Snoop.
2:18 mark in slo mo.
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Merriman is clearly 2 inches shorter than 6-3.5 Snoop.
viper said on 18/Sep/18
Merriman is clearly 3 inches shorter than 6-5 Caron Butler at the 3:27 mark.
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Merriman is clearly 3 inches shorter than 6-5 Caron Butler at the 3:27 mark.
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viper said on 18/Sep/18
Excuse me, Patterson was measured at
6-1.7 and 6-2.5
Excuse me, Patterson was measured at
6-1.7 and 6-2.5
viper said on 17/Sep/18
I'm watching the Bears game, and Roquan Smith clearly looks shorter than 6-0 Danny Travathan
I'm watching the Bears game, and Roquan Smith clearly looks shorter than 6-0 Danny Travathan
Canson said on 17/Sep/18
@Viper: I heard someone say over the weekend that Steve Nash was barely 6’0” in person yet he’s listed 6’3”. I always thought he was a good 6 footer not quite 6’1” but potentially sub 6’0” surprises me until you see him with Kobe or MWP or Marion. He may only be 6’1” in shoes
@Viper: I heard someone say over the weekend that Steve Nash was barely 6’0” in person yet he’s listed 6’3”. I always thought he was a good 6 footer not quite 6’1” but potentially sub 6’0” surprises me until you see him with Kobe or MWP or Marion. He may only be 6’1” in shoes
viper said on 17/Sep/18
Samson was never measured at 6-2.2 that draftscout has him.
He was measured at 6-1.3 at the NFLPA bowl and 6-1.7 at his pro day
Samson was never measured at 6-2.2 that draftscout has him.
He was measured at 6-1.3 at the NFLPA bowl and 6-1.7 at his pro day
Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@Andrea and Viper: neither of you are trolls. If you wanna talk about a troll look at someone like Chris or Goose. They are textbook trolls
@Andrea and Viper: neither of you are trolls. If you wanna talk about a troll look at someone like Chris or Goose. They are textbook trolls
viper said on 16/Sep/18
Merriman might have a bare knuckle fight with 6-3 Greg Hardy
Merriman might have a bare knuckle fight with 6-3 Greg Hardy
viper said on 16/Sep/18
So many dubious measurements in the NFL
So many dubious measurements in the NFL
viper said on 16/Sep/18
Malik Jefferson isn't a measured 6-2. He looks 6-0
Malik Jefferson isn't a measured 6-2. He looks 6-0
Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@Viper: that probably explains why Andrea mentioned that he’s shorter than Merriman. Gates looked taller in a different picture however.
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@Viper: that probably explains why Andrea mentioned that he’s shorter than Merriman. Gates looked taller in a different picture however.
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Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@viper: that’s likely in cleats. He’s prob 6’0” and a little bit
@viper: that’s likely in cleats. He’s prob 6’0” and a little bit
Canson said on 15/Sep/18
Merriman is only about 4-5” taller than ladanian Tomlimson who was measured 5’10.25 in the morning
Merriman is only about 4-5” taller than ladanian Tomlimson who was measured 5’10.25 in the morning
viper said on 14/Sep/18
Merriman looks 6-1 boxing 5-7 Jay Glazer. Click Here
Glazer may be even shorter than 5-7 seeing other pics of him.
Merriman looks 6-1 boxing 5-7 Jay Glazer. Click Here
Glazer may be even shorter than 5-7 seeing other pics of him.
viper said on 13/Sep/18
Yeah Davis is 6-2.75 at a low like me
Yeah Davis is 6-2.75 at a low like me
Canson said on 11/Sep/18
@Wayne: I saw the same thing Viper did and Rob posted it above where it says 6’2 274 and he also has a Pro day of 6’2.4 which is 6’2 1/2”. So that’s another thing that says something different but he was listed 6’3” at MD not 6’4. 6’3” was likely in cleats. Honestly, I believe 6’2” range. He’s not as tall as Vernon davis who I’ve met and pegged 6’3”. Now maybe he’s 6’2.75 at a low since I come down to 6’4.25 at a low and used to class myself 6’4.5 but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s 6’3” on the nose either. 6’3.25 was his combine height (in the early morning). I’d be hard pressed to believe that Merriman is over an inch taller than him. Davis looks taller.
@Wayne: I saw the same thing Viper did and Rob posted it above where it says 6’2 274 and he also has a Pro day of 6’2.4 which is 6’2 1/2”. So that’s another thing that says something different but he was listed 6’3” at MD not 6’4. 6’3” was likely in cleats. Honestly, I believe 6’2” range. He’s not as tall as Vernon davis who I’ve met and pegged 6’3”. Now maybe he’s 6’2.75 at a low since I come down to 6’4.25 at a low and used to class myself 6’4.5 but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s 6’3” on the nose either. 6’3.25 was his combine height (in the early morning). I’d be hard pressed to believe that Merriman is over an inch taller than him. Davis looks taller.
Andrea said on 11/Sep/18
Wayne, that 6'2 4/8 figure comes from couchscout, an unofficial site whose the owner himself admitted that its data aren't always reliable and exempt of errors... Plus, if you take a look at that couchscout page that has Shawne down at 6'2 4/8, you can also see Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which certainly makes Shawne's "measurement" quite hard to believe, considering that he looks easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
Wayne, that 6'2 4/8 figure comes from couchscout, an unofficial site whose the owner himself admitted that its data aren't always reliable and exempt of errors... Plus, if you take a look at that couchscout page that has Shawne down at 6'2 4/8, you can also see Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which certainly makes Shawne's "measurement" quite hard to believe, considering that he looks easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
viper said on 10/Sep/18
Sometimes I wonder If Gates is even 6-3. He doesn't look it here with 6-4.5 Rivers.
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He looked shorter than 6-3 Suggs on family feud
Sometimes I wonder If Gates is even 6-3. He doesn't look it here with 6-4.5 Rivers.
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He looked shorter than 6-3 Suggs on family feud
Andrea said on 10/Sep/18
"viper said on 8/Sep/18
You are great at trolling Andrea",
said one of the biggest, if not the biggest, troll in Celebheights history, LMFAO.
"viper said on 8/Sep/18
You are great at trolling Andrea",
said one of the biggest, if not the biggest, troll in Celebheights history, LMFAO.
Wayne said on 10/Sep/18
Another link claiming Merriman was measured 6'4" during the pro day Click Here
Another link claiming Merriman was measured 6'4" during the pro day Click Here
Wayne said on 10/Sep/18
Well can someone tell me where does that supposed 6'2.4" pro day measurement come from ?
Here it says he was measured at the exact same height during pro day and combine Click Here
Well can someone tell me where does that supposed 6'2.4" pro day measurement come from ?
Here it says he was measured at the exact same height during pro day and combine Click Here
viper said on 9/Sep/18
If we are gonna draw lines on hats, Luis Castillos hat is clearly taller
If we are gonna draw lines on hats, Luis Castillos hat is clearly taller
viper said on 9/Sep/18
There is no way Jaylon Smith actually measured 6-2.
Heck, he physically looks shorter than RG3
There is no way Jaylon Smith actually measured 6-2.
Heck, he physically looks shorter than RG3
Canson said on 9/Sep/18
@Viper: I think Dean would be
@Viper: I think Dean would be
Canson said on 9/Sep/18
@CMillz: I never met him up close like Viper but saw him from a few hundred feet and I honestly couldn’t tell. Now I have a friend who has met him up close and he had him as 6’2”ish. I asked him was he as tall as me and he said he wasn’t. My guess really is 6’2.5 or 6’2.25 maybe. I wouldn’t have guessed as low as Viper did but maybe he really is. I will say that he looks physically shorter than Vernon Davis who I have met. I would put Davis as roughly 6’3”.
@CMillz: I never met him up close like Viper but saw him from a few hundred feet and I honestly couldn’t tell. Now I have a friend who has met him up close and he had him as 6’2”ish. I asked him was he as tall as me and he said he wasn’t. My guess really is 6’2.5 or 6’2.25 maybe. I wouldn’t have guessed as low as Viper did but maybe he really is. I will say that he looks physically shorter than Vernon Davis who I have met. I would put Davis as roughly 6’3”.
Canson said on 9/Sep/18
@Viper: i Think Castillo (6’2.6) would be more 6’2 1/4 or 3/8. He probably is similar with Merriman or maybe at most 1cm difference. Jackson measured 6’4.75 combine and 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl as we have both numbers as hard evidence. So Jackson is similar to me in that I also measure 6’4.75 at about an hour out of bed and 6’4.25 to 3/8 at a low. Merriman based on the pic and everything else, likely would’ve really been 6’2 3/8
@Viper: i Think Castillo (6’2.6) would be more 6’2 1/4 or 3/8. He probably is similar with Merriman or maybe at most 1cm difference. Jackson measured 6’4.75 combine and 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl as we have both numbers as hard evidence. So Jackson is similar to me in that I also measure 6’4.75 at about an hour out of bed and 6’4.25 to 3/8 at a low. Merriman based on the pic and everything else, likely would’ve really been 6’2 3/8
viper said on 8/Sep/18
Dean easily looks an inch taller.
Dean easily looks an inch taller.
viper said on 8/Sep/18
cmillz he was measured 6-2 at his pro day.
Afternoon I can believe 6-1.75. He looked 6-1.5-6-2 up close
cmillz he was measured 6-2 at his pro day.
Afternoon I can believe 6-1.75. He looked 6-1.5-6-2 up close
viper said on 7/Sep/18
Merriman is having a bare knuckle match with a 6-0 listed guy in November
Merriman is having a bare knuckle match with a 6-0 listed guy in November
viper said on 7/Sep/18
Canson, don't you agree Dean is taller
Canson, don't you agree Dean is taller
viper said on 7/Sep/18
Amazing to me that Rob has him at a ridiculous 6-4 with this lineup.
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6-4 Vincent Jackson, 6-2 Luis Castillo, 6-1.5 Merriman.
Merriman looks shorter than 6-2 in that player lineup.
Amazing to me that Rob has him at a ridiculous 6-4 with this lineup.
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6-4 Vincent Jackson, 6-2 Luis Castillo, 6-1.5 Merriman.
Merriman looks shorter than 6-2 in that player lineup.
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
@Viper: I don’t think Muhtadi has 3cm on Merriman. Maybe 1/2” or 2cm. They look relatively close in height to be honest
@Viper: I don’t think Muhtadi has 3cm on Merriman. Maybe 1/2” or 2cm. They look relatively close in height to be honest
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
@Viper: I only saw him from a distance and not for long but he didn’t look that low (6’1.5-6’2) imho although 6’4” seems too high now that I see more pics. I didn’t really know what he was but just assumed he was 6’3 or 6’4” because those were his listings. I’d still say 6’2” minimum
@Viper: I only saw him from a distance and not for long but he didn’t look that low (6’1.5-6’2) imho although 6’4” seems too high now that I see more pics. I didn’t really know what he was but just assumed he was 6’3 or 6’4” because those were his listings. I’d still say 6’2” minimum
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
@Viper: we really don’t know when he measured 6’2.4 as pro days have been held afternoon as well. But even 6’2 1/2 would make him likely 6’2” flat or 6’2 1/8. You may be right in that it could be early morning as the 6’4 3/8 was likely 6’2 3/8 in reality. I can’t see him below 6’2” flat but you met him not me
@Viper: we really don’t know when he measured 6’2.4 as pro days have been held afternoon as well. But even 6’2 1/2 would make him likely 6’2” flat or 6’2 1/8. You may be right in that it could be early morning as the 6’4 3/8 was likely 6’2 3/8 in reality. I can’t see him below 6’2” flat but you met him not me
cmillzz said on 6/Sep/18
@Canson, what do you think his true barefoot height is in the afternoon?
@Canson, what do you think his true barefoot height is in the afternoon?
cmillzz said on 6/Sep/18
I’m really struggling to see how he looks anywhere near 6’4...
I’m really struggling to see how he looks anywhere near 6’4...
Andrea said on 6/Sep/18
LOL, viper. A lot of things can be said about you, but not that you're not funny, even if I'm afraid that's the only thing you're good at.
LOL, viper. A lot of things can be said about you, but not that you're not funny, even if I'm afraid that's the only thing you're good at.
viper said on 6/Sep/18
Lol at Andrea drawing a line from a baseball cap.
Canson don't you agree Dean looks over an inch taller easily.
Lol at Andrea drawing a line from a baseball cap.
Canson don't you agree Dean looks over an inch taller easily.
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
@Viper and Andrea:
To be fair Viper, there are pics where he does look 6’3 maybe even 6’4”. He doesn’t look 6’2” in all of them. And to Andrea, he does look 6’2” in just as many pics as he does 6’4”. We can’t say just because he looks 6’2” that it’s a bad pic which is what you are effectively saying. That’s biase
@Viper and Andrea:
To be fair Viper, there are pics where he does look 6’3 maybe even 6’4”. He doesn’t look 6’2” in all of them. And to Andrea, he does look 6’2” in just as many pics as he does 6’4”. We can’t say just because he looks 6’2” that it’s a bad pic which is what you are effectively saying. That’s biase
viper said on 6/Sep/18
He's never seen 6-3 in his life. So he's not 6-2-6-3. He's just 6-2 MAX
He's never seen 6-3 in his life. So he's not 6-2-6-3. He's just 6-2 MAX
viper said on 6/Sep/18
Being listed 6-3 in college football doesn't mean anything? I just spit out my drink from laughing. They aren't going to underlist him. He's not that height though since he measured 6-2 and looks about that in person.
"Let's underlist a huge football player at 6-3 even though he's 6-4"
Gives even more credence how laughable his fake 6-4.3 is
Being listed 6-3 in college football doesn't mean anything? I just spit out my drink from laughing. They aren't going to underlist him. He's not that height though since he measured 6-2 and looks about that in person.
"Let's underlist a huge football player at 6-3 even though he's 6-4"
Gives even more credence how laughable his fake 6-4.3 is
viper said on 6/Sep/18
Given that he measured 6-2.4 early morning. I think he's 6-1.75. And he looks it up close up person
Given that he measured 6-2.4 early morning. I think he's 6-1.75. And he looks it up close up person
viper said on 6/Sep/18
Dean is clearly taller than Merriman.
Looks the same as compared to Vernon here. Click Here
Rudy Gay played a whole charity basketball game with Merriman at Big Tiggers celebrity basketball game some years back in Washington DC.
Nice trolling. Tough lost
Dean is clearly taller than Merriman.
Looks the same as compared to Vernon here. Click Here
Rudy Gay played a whole charity basketball game with Merriman at Big Tiggers celebrity basketball game some years back in Washington DC.
Nice trolling. Tough lost
viper said on 5/Sep/18
Merriman in his life has never looked this tall physically as 6-2 Geno Smith
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Merriman in his life has never looked this tall physically as 6-2 Geno Smith
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viper said on 5/Sep/18
I can measure 6-5 in regular shoes with my toes raise up some at 6-3.
With orthopedics and more socks, I might be able to hit 6-6.
I can measure 6-5 in regular shoes with my toes raise up some at 6-3.
With orthopedics and more socks, I might be able to hit 6-6.
Andrea said on 5/Sep/18
No, he doesn't "consistently looks 6-2 most of the time", viper. At all. The majority of pics (or clips) where he can look as low as that are pics with bad angles or pics where Shawne is clearly disadvantaged (like that terrible clip you posted with Vernon, who does look comfortably shorter than Shawne when he has no big camera advantage over him Click Here Click Here ). And although there are certainly a few decent pics where he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 (like that one with Carmelo), they are a lot less than those where he looks well over that range.
As for the rest of your overwhelming evidence for which, according to you, Shawne can't certainly be over 6'2-6'3...
1) The fact that he was listed at 6'3 in college proves nothing because it all depends on where they took that figure from. It's not any different than saying that someone like Ibrahimovic, who certainly isn't less than 194, can't be over 192 because he was listed almost everywhere at that mark a few years ago (and he certainly was already full-grown back then);
2) Same story with those 6'2 descriptions (not measurements, like you love to say);
3) It is true that that Rudy Gay guy kinda called him 6'2 but we don't know A) if he really ever met him, B) how good he is at estimating heights and C) the whole context of that comment he made on Twitter, so again it proves nothing;
4) Same story (and even more so) with your ALLEGED meeting him, which I'm not even going to argue about.
So no, NOT enough evidence has been provided to downgrade him to 6'2.5, let alone 6'2. I'm sorry, viper.
P.S. I love how you keep posting photos that, if anything, prove that he can't be as low as you say he is (without even realizing it), like that one with Dean Muhtadi (just to mention the most recent one). In fact, not only Shawne doesn't look any shorter than him, but he does look a bit taller, and that's with Dean's head being NOTICEABLY CLOSER to the camera than Shawne's: Click Here
No, he doesn't "consistently looks 6-2 most of the time", viper. At all. The majority of pics (or clips) where he can look as low as that are pics with bad angles or pics where Shawne is clearly disadvantaged (like that terrible clip you posted with Vernon, who does look comfortably shorter than Shawne when he has no big camera advantage over him Click Here Click Here ). And although there are certainly a few decent pics where he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 (like that one with Carmelo), they are a lot less than those where he looks well over that range.
As for the rest of your overwhelming evidence for which, according to you, Shawne can't certainly be over 6'2-6'3...
1) The fact that he was listed at 6'3 in college proves nothing because it all depends on where they took that figure from. It's not any different than saying that someone like Ibrahimovic, who certainly isn't less than 194, can't be over 192 because he was listed almost everywhere at that mark a few years ago (and he certainly was already full-grown back then);
2) Same story with those 6'2 descriptions (not measurements, like you love to say);
3) It is true that that Rudy Gay guy kinda called him 6'2 but we don't know A) if he really ever met him, B) how good he is at estimating heights and C) the whole context of that comment he made on Twitter, so again it proves nothing;
4) Same story (and even more so) with your ALLEGED meeting him, which I'm not even going to argue about.
So no, NOT enough evidence has been provided to downgrade him to 6'2.5, let alone 6'2. I'm sorry, viper.
P.S. I love how you keep posting photos that, if anything, prove that he can't be as low as you say he is (without even realizing it), like that one with Dean Muhtadi (just to mention the most recent one). In fact, not only Shawne doesn't look any shorter than him, but he does look a bit taller, and that's with Dean's head being NOTICEABLY CLOSER to the camera than Shawne's: Click Here
viper said on 5/Sep/18
I think he could be as low as 6-1.75
I think he could be as low as 6-1.75
viper said on 5/Sep/18
6'3 and 6'4 is ridiculous.
He measured 6'2 and looks it in person.
6'3 and 6'4 is ridiculous.
He measured 6'2 and looks it in person.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 5/Sep/18
6'2 for Shawne Merriman is ridiculous. That would pull down NFL players draft measurement for 1.5-2".
6'2 for Shawne Merriman is ridiculous. That would pull down NFL players draft measurement for 1.5-2".
viper said on 4/Sep/18
6-3.2 Dean Muhtadi has over an inch on Merriman. Click Here
He's really 6-2.7. Merriman looks what I saw him as, 6-1.5
6-3.2 Dean Muhtadi has over an inch on Merriman. Click Here
He's really 6-2.7. Merriman looks what I saw him as, 6-1.5
viper said on 4/Sep/18
bad_bad_mr_burke@llortehtrepiv has really like 6'3 at best bro. I've ran into him a few times and I'm 6'2 has a decent inch over me
I assume he's 6-2 in shoes.
bad_bad_mr_burke@llortehtrepiv has really like 6'3 at best bro. I've ran into him a few times and I'm 6'2 has a decent inch over me
I assume he's 6-2 in shoes.
viper said on 4/Sep/18
Merriman looks a bit shorter than 6-2 measured Laith Wallschleger.
Closer to the camera
Merriman looks a bit shorter than 6-2 measured Laith Wallschleger.
Closer to the camera
viper said on 3/Sep/18
6-2 Terence Garvin looked 6-5 with 6-2 Sinbad.
6-2 Charles Johnson looks 6-5 with 6-0 Dan Ackroyd
6-2 Terence Garvin looked 6-5 with 6-2 Sinbad.
6-2 Charles Johnson looks 6-5 with 6-0 Dan Ackroyd
Canson said on 3/Sep/18
@Andrea: we actually did not see him measured. We simply heard the nurse read off a number. We don’t see whether or not he’s barefoot either
@Wayne: it’s the same as Julian Peterson who is listed 6’3” in the NFL and was “supposedly” measured 6’5 1/8. The listing is going to be more accurate in a case where he’s listed lower than supposed measurement
@Andrea: we actually did not see him measured. We simply heard the nurse read off a number. We don’t see whether or not he’s barefoot either
@Wayne: it’s the same as Julian Peterson who is listed 6’3” in the NFL and was “supposedly” measured 6’5 1/8. The listing is going to be more accurate in a case where he’s listed lower than supposed measurement
viper said on 3/Sep/18
Merriman has a footwear advantage with 6-2 Laith and still looks a bit shorter being closer to the camera
Merriman has a footwear advantage with 6-2 Laith and still looks a bit shorter being closer to the camera
viper said on 3/Sep/18
He consistently looks 6-2 most of the time, especially on video. He clearly looks shorter than 6-3 Vernon Davis and 6-3 Randy Moss on video.
He was listed 6-3 in college. That means he's shorter than that. And alas, he was measured at 6-2. I saw him at 6-1.5-6-2. Rudy Gay saw him at 6-2.
They aren't going to underlist him at
6-3 in the first place. They would over list him. As he was measured at 6-2.
Enough evidence has been provided to downgrade him to 6-2, not just 6-2.5. But 6-2.5 would be a decent start.
He consistently looks 6-2 most of the time, especially on video. He clearly looks shorter than 6-3 Vernon Davis and 6-3 Randy Moss on video.
He was listed 6-3 in college. That means he's shorter than that. And alas, he was measured at 6-2. I saw him at 6-1.5-6-2. Rudy Gay saw him at 6-2.
They aren't going to underlist him at
6-3 in the first place. They would over list him. As he was measured at 6-2.
Enough evidence has been provided to downgrade him to 6-2, not just 6-2.5. But 6-2.5 would be a decent start.
Canson said on 3/Sep/18
@Andrea: what you said is partially true. He does have “2 measurements” but as far as how he stands with guys that size, there are several pics that Viper and I have both posted where he looks 6’2.5. That’s your opinion that he doesn’t. But to support what you’re saying he also looks 6’4 and 6’3 In some pics. But you can’t simply ignore or disregard pics where he does just because there are pics where he doesn’t. That would be like someone saying he never looks 6’3/6’4 range when he actually can at times
@Andrea: what you said is partially true. He does have “2 measurements” but as far as how he stands with guys that size, there are several pics that Viper and I have both posted where he looks 6’2.5. That’s your opinion that he doesn’t. But to support what you’re saying he also looks 6’4 and 6’3 In some pics. But you can’t simply ignore or disregard pics where he does just because there are pics where he doesn’t. That would be like someone saying he never looks 6’3/6’4 range when he actually can at times
Canson said on 3/Sep/18
@Wayne: the NFL isn’t going to underlist someone’s height by an inch. Hernandez is 6’1”
@Wayne: the NFL isn’t going to underlist someone’s height by an inch. Hernandez is 6’1”
Myself said on 2/Sep/18
I'm quite surprised Rob lists him at 6'4...
It's like my friend that has been measured by doctors with a stadiometer and also by a computer while doing an exercise where he had to put his leg on something the height of a chair and than stand up and go back down (for some minutes), for the heart or something, and resulted 178 cm in both (and was also listed as 179 cm somewhere else), but i always had some doubts about him being that height really...and i finally measured him 175 cm multiple times, even his mother agreed that he didn't look as tall as 178 cm...I bet he would be listed at least 176.5/177 on this site! (unless Rob would have met him) (also consider that the 175 cm measurement wasn't even his lowest probably, we didn't do much physical activity before measuring, so he could even be more like 174.7-174.8 at a normal low)
I'm quite surprised Rob lists him at 6'4...
It's like my friend that has been measured by doctors with a stadiometer and also by a computer while doing an exercise where he had to put his leg on something the height of a chair and than stand up and go back down (for some minutes), for the heart or something, and resulted 178 cm in both (and was also listed as 179 cm somewhere else), but i always had some doubts about him being that height really...and i finally measured him 175 cm multiple times, even his mother agreed that he didn't look as tall as 178 cm...I bet he would be listed at least 176.5/177 on this site! (unless Rob would have met him) (also consider that the 175 cm measurement wasn't even his lowest probably, we didn't do much physical activity before measuring, so he could even be more like 174.7-174.8 at a normal low)
Andrea said on 2/Sep/18
"viper said on 28/Aug/18
Disagree. Enough evidence has been presented to have him listed at 6-2.5 max"
It is quite the opposite, viper. In fact, not only he was supposedly measured over 6'4 on two different occasions (one of which was also filmed), but he also looks noticeably taller than 6'2.5 with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
"viper said on 28/Aug/18
Disagree. Enough evidence has been presented to have him listed at 6-2.5 max"
It is quite the opposite, viper. In fact, not only he was supposedly measured over 6'4 on two different occasions (one of which was also filmed), but he also looks noticeably taller than 6'2.5 with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
viper said on 1/Sep/18
This guy was listed at 6-6 in high school Click Here
He's now listed at 6-3 by UCLA. He may be only be 6-2.
This guy was listed at 6-6 in high school Click Here
He's now listed at 6-3 by UCLA. He may be only be 6-2.
Canson said on 1/Sep/18
@Viper: I got a strong 6’3 impression from Suggs but maybe he had a footwear advantage on me. Worst case, with that being said, is he’s like 6’3” flat probably
@Viper: I got a strong 6’3 impression from Suggs but maybe he had a footwear advantage on me. Worst case, with that being said, is he’s like 6’3” flat probably
viper said on 1/Sep/18
Even If he wasn't measured 6-2 at his pro day we would know he would be no taller than 6-3 with his 6-3 listing
Even If he wasn't measured 6-2 at his pro day we would know he would be no taller than 6-3 with his 6-3 listing
Wayne said on 1/Sep/18
@canson in the case of Hernandez the listings are dubious but the called measurement seems absolutely fair, he always stood well next to his 6'4+ fellows patriots
Back to his 6-3 listing in college, I think it was a billed height, they surely don't get measured
@canson in the case of Hernandez the listings are dubious but the called measurement seems absolutely fair, he always stood well next to his 6'4+ fellows patriots
Back to his 6-3 listing in college, I think it was a billed height, they surely don't get measured
viper said on 31/Aug/18
He's not 6-3 either
He's not 6-3 either
viper said on 31/Aug/18
I've seen Merriman look 6-1.5-6-2 up close. Do yeah that's obviously a dubious measurement.
And what about his 6-2 measurement Wayne
I've seen Merriman look 6-1.5-6-2 up close. Do yeah that's obviously a dubious measurement.
And what about his 6-2 measurement Wayne
Canson said on 31/Aug/18
Moss is shorter than Brady. No way he’s a legit 6’4”. Maybe max he is 6’3 3/8 like his combine lists him. Maybe this is his afternoon height as opposed to a morning height
Moss is shorter than Brady. No way he’s a legit 6’4”. Maybe max he is 6’3 3/8 like his combine lists him. Maybe this is his afternoon height as opposed to a morning height
Canson said on 31/Aug/18
@Viper: I can guarantee that I’d be taller than Merriman or Boris in person just by looking at them and the difference would be to where I could see it (meaning at least 1”) with both and likely more with Merriman. My buddy who’s met him said he’s not as tall as I am
@Viper: I can guarantee that I’d be taller than Merriman or Boris in person just by looking at them and the difference would be to where I could see it (meaning at least 1”) with both and likely more with Merriman. My buddy who’s met him said he’s not as tall as I am
viper said on 31/Aug/18
Julian Peterson was measured at 6-5. He's really 6-3. You are way out if your eme went here Wayne
Julian Peterson was measured at 6-5. He's really 6-3. You are way out if your eme went here Wayne
Mickie said on 29/Aug/18
He's not 6'4"
He's not 6'4"
Canson said on 29/Aug/18
@Wayne: well that’s not mismeasuring that could be improperly stating. Remember Aaron Hernandez was listed 6’1 and “supposedly measured” 6’2+. He was a tight end where height does matter so they wouldn’t understate him
@Wayne: well that’s not mismeasuring that could be improperly stating. Remember Aaron Hernandez was listed 6’1 and “supposedly measured” 6’2+. He was a tight end where height does matter so they wouldn’t understate him
viper said on 29/Aug/18
He was listed 6-3 in college. Sorry Wayne
He was listed 6-3 in college. Sorry Wayne
viper said on 29/Aug/18
I've seen Merriman up close and he looked 6-1.5-6-2. He's nowhere close to 6-4.
And there are dubious measurements in the NFL and NBA.
I've seen Merriman up close and he looked 6-1.5-6-2. He's nowhere close to 6-4.
And there are dubious measurements in the NFL and NBA.
viper said on 28/Aug/18
6-3 Matt Judon looks physically taller than 6-3 Suggs to me
6-3 Matt Judon looks physically taller than 6-3 Suggs to me
viper said on 28/Aug/18
I'm sure the 6-3.3 is early morning. He could get down to 6-2.75
I'm sure the 6-3.3 is early morning. He could get down to 6-2.75
viper said on 28/Aug/18
Disagree. Enough evidence has been presented to have him listed at 6-2.5 max
Disagree. Enough evidence has been presented to have him listed at 6-2.5 max
Wayne said on 28/Aug/18
Come on guys, there's no way athletes get mismeasured by 2 inches during the combine, the most I can buy is 1/8"
He has to be at least 6'4"
Come on guys, there's no way athletes get mismeasured by 2 inches during the combine, the most I can buy is 1/8"
He has to be at least 6'4"
Canson said on 27/Aug/18
@Viper: while 6’2” range fits him the best, I would say Rob moving him to 6’3” would even be a good start. 6’3.5 is even a bit high but much better than 6’4”. I just don’t see Rob making a move to 6’2 or 6’2.5 when even Christian commented on something earlier on as a reference and it never made its way into his caption. Anything short of Merriman himself admitting to being 6’2” or Rob meeting him would not be satisfactory enough for Rob to do that. Even then it would likely be 6’2.5 as opposed to 6’2” even if he actually does get that low (possible but not 100% sure if he does).
@Viper: while 6’2” range fits him the best, I would say Rob moving him to 6’3” would even be a good start. 6’3.5 is even a bit high but much better than 6’4”. I just don’t see Rob making a move to 6’2 or 6’2.5 when even Christian commented on something earlier on as a reference and it never made its way into his caption. Anything short of Merriman himself admitting to being 6’2” or Rob meeting him would not be satisfactory enough for Rob to do that. Even then it would likely be 6’2.5 as opposed to 6’2” even if he actually does get that low (possible but not 100% sure if he does).
Canson said on 27/Aug/18
@Viper: was Champ measured at 5’11 at the combine? If so he’s under the mark as the combine is earlier in the day. At times it can look 3” others closer to 4”. Moss has some camera advantage but he’s still clearly taller than Merriman
@Viper: was Champ measured at 5’11 at the combine? If so he’s under the mark as the combine is earlier in the day. At times it can look 3” others closer to 4”. Moss has some camera advantage but he’s still clearly taller than Merriman
Canson said on 27/Aug/18
@Rampage: yea right around :20 he looks 6’2” honestly. I don’t know what time Moss measured but his combine is 6’3 3/8. That may be morning but maybe not. Either way Merriman comes to 6’2 or 6’2.5 with him
@Rampage: yea right around :20 he looks 6’2” honestly. I don’t know what time Moss measured but his combine is 6’3 3/8. That may be morning but maybe not. Either way Merriman comes to 6’2 or 6’2.5 with him
viper said on 27/Aug/18
Merriman really looks 6-1 standing next to 5-11.5 Champ Bailey. Click Here
Champ measured 5-11.5. Click Here
And he looks clearly shorter than 6-3.3 Randy Moss
Merriman really looks 6-1 standing next to 5-11.5 Champ Bailey. Click Here
Champ measured 5-11.5. Click Here
And he looks clearly shorter than 6-3.3 Randy Moss
viper said on 26/Aug/18
They said Maryland's Jermaine Carter was measured at 6-1. He was measured at 6-0
They said Maryland's Jermaine Carter was measured at 6-1. He was measured at 6-0
viper said on 26/Aug/18
Merriman looks exactly the same on video next to 5-11.5 measured Champ Bailey as he does with 5-11.5 Rampage Jackson
Merriman looks exactly the same on video next to 5-11.5 measured Champ Bailey as he does with 5-11.5 Rampage Jackson
viper said on 26/Aug/18
2:40 mark 6-3 Moss is clearly taller
2:40 mark 6-3 Moss is clearly taller
viper said on 26/Aug/18
Champ Bailey is a measured 5-11 and Merriman looks 6-2 next to him as well
5-11 Champ, 6-2 Merriman, 6-3 Moss
Champ Bailey is a measured 5-11 and Merriman looks 6-2 next to him as well
5-11 Champ, 6-2 Merriman, 6-3 Moss
viper said on 26/Aug/18
16 second mark especially. 6-3 Moss lined up with Merriman perfectly and Merriman looks clearly shorter.
16 second mark especially. 6-3 Moss lined up with Merriman perfectly and Merriman looks clearly shorter.
viper said on 26/Aug/18
Clearly shorter than 6-3 measured Randy Moss throughout the whole video. Click Here
Can he be downgraded now. Thanks
Clearly shorter than 6-3 measured Randy Moss throughout the whole video. Click Here
Can he be downgraded now. Thanks
viper said on 26/Aug/18
Saw 6-3.5 David Njoku talking to Mayfield on Hard Knocks. He looked significantly taller than Merriman.
Saw 6-3.5 David Njoku talking to Mayfield on Hard Knocks. He looked significantly taller than Merriman.
Canson said on 25/Aug/18
@Viper: likely is that
@Viper: likely is that
viper said on 23/Aug/18
Mann was measured at 6-5
Mann was measured at 6-5
viper said on 22/Aug/18
No downgrade for Merriman yet Big Show gets downgraded. Though I won't be happy unless it's to 6-2.5
No downgrade for Merriman yet Big Show gets downgraded. Though I won't be happy unless it's to 6-2.5
Canson said on 22/Aug/18
@Viper: always thought he was 6’1”. I’ve actually met guys like Charles Mann in person and they’re way taller. Mann looked around 6’6” when I met him when I was younger. Worst case 6’5 range. Vernon Davis also looks “about 6’3”.
@Viper: always thought he was 6’1”. I’ve actually met guys like Charles Mann in person and they’re way taller. Mann looked around 6’6” when I met him when I was younger. Worst case 6’5 range. Vernon Davis also looks “about 6’3”.
viper said on 21/Aug/18
He was supposedly measured at 6-2.3. He's never really looked that tall to me
He was supposedly measured at 6-2.3. He's never really looked that tall to me
Canson said on 21/Aug/18
@Viper: I heard someone tell me before that RG was 6’1” that has met him. I always thought he was 6’2”
@Viper: I heard someone tell me before that RG was 6’1” that has met him. I always thought he was 6’2”
Dream(5'9.5") said on 21/Aug/18
This guy should claim 6'5" in front of Howard Stern (peak). I'm pretty sure he'll try to make himself look taller and Howard would look down on him, ROFL!
This guy should claim 6'5" in front of Howard Stern (peak). I'm pretty sure he'll try to make himself look taller and Howard would look down on him, ROFL!
viper said on 21/Aug/18
I've noticed Lamar Jackson seems taller than RG3 on the sidelines
Lamar looks Geno Smith tall physically
I've noticed Lamar Jackson seems taller than RG3 on the sidelines
Lamar looks Geno Smith tall physically
Canson said on 20/Aug/18
@Viper: looks 6’2 and change with the one guy imho
@Viper: looks 6’2 and change with the one guy imho
Canson said on 20/Aug/18
Mayfield actually has two measurements 6’0 5/8 and 3/8. The 5/8 is an early morning whereas the 3/8 was Senior Bowl at a different time but that would likely put him for Celebheights purposes at about 6’0.25 since we use afternoon heights as the standard. Merriman is nowhere near 4” taller than he is. That’s about a 2-3” max without seeing footwear or posture. Merriman has a slight chance at 6’3” but likely is 6’2.5
Mayfield actually has two measurements 6’0 5/8 and 3/8. The 5/8 is an early morning whereas the 3/8 was Senior Bowl at a different time but that would likely put him for Celebheights purposes at about 6’0.25 since we use afternoon heights as the standard. Merriman is nowhere near 4” taller than he is. That’s about a 2-3” max without seeing footwear or posture. Merriman has a slight chance at 6’3” but likely is 6’2.5
viper said on 19/Aug/18
At best he looks the same height as 6-1 Dean Jilo on video
At best he looks the same height as 6-1 Dean Jilo on video
viper said on 19/Aug/18
So a 6-1 guy edges out Merriman in an interview
So a 6-1 guy edges out Merriman in an interview
Canson said on 19/Aug/18
@Viper: with Trump he looks 6’2-6’3
@Viper: with Trump he looks 6’2-6’3
Canson said on 18/Aug/18
@Viper: the pic with Rampage is the key. He looks max 6’2.5 with him
@Viper: the pic with Rampage is the key. He looks max 6’2.5 with him
viper said on 17/Aug/18
6-3 Jake Allyn with 6-2 Dean jilo. Click Here
6-2 Dean Jilo interviewing 6-2 Merriman.
Click Here
If anything I think the top of his head minus his bun edges Merriman out.
6-3 Jake Allyn with 6-2 Dean jilo. Click Here
6-2 Dean Jilo interviewing 6-2 Merriman.
Click Here
If anything I think the top of his head minus his bun edges Merriman out.
viper said on 17/Aug/18
Massive height difference between Merriman and 6-5 Greg Robinson. Click Here
Click Here
Merriman looks the same as 6-1 Tyler Ennis. Click Here
Massive height difference between Merriman and 6-5 Greg Robinson. Click Here
Click Here
Merriman looks the same as 6-1 Tyler Ennis. Click Here
viper said on 17/Aug/18
Merriman is max 6-2 with Larry English. English is 6-1 5/8-6-1 3/4. 6-2.1 early morning height.
Click Here
Merriman is max 6-2 with Larry English. English is 6-1 5/8-6-1 3/4. 6-2.1 early morning height.
Click Here
viper said on 17/Aug/18
Merriman with 6-1 Max Duncan Hunter.Click Here
Duncan looks 6-0-6-1 with Trump
Merriman with 6-1 Max Duncan Hunter.Click Here
Duncan looks 6-0-6-1 with Trump
viper said on 17/Aug/18
Sorry Andrea, at best Merriman is 6-3 with Trump. In the picture he looks
6-2.5 max.
Trump is 6-0. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on Trump being 6-0.5
Sorry Andrea, at best Merriman is 6-3 with Trump. In the picture he looks
6-2.5 max.
Trump is 6-0. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on Trump being 6-0.5
viper said on 17/Aug/18
Not a coincidence that 6-2 comes from 4 different sources.
The 6-2.4 from couchscout, the 6-2 from NFL.com, and the 6-2 in the paper.
The fourth one was from another NFL columnist that I can't find anymore. Specifically said "Shawne Merriman measured at 6-2 and weighed in at 274 pounds"
Not a coincidence that 6-2 comes from 4 different sources.
The 6-2.4 from couchscout, the 6-2 from NFL.com, and the 6-2 in the paper.
The fourth one was from another NFL columnist that I can't find anymore. Specifically said "Shawne Merriman measured at 6-2 and weighed in at 274 pounds"
viper said on 17/Aug/18
He does look taller here with 5-10ish Reggie Bush. Click Here
Weird thing is that he looked 6-1ish with Bush in a pic from 2008.
He does look taller here with 5-10ish Reggie Bush. Click Here
Weird thing is that he looked 6-1ish with Bush in a pic from 2008.
Andrea said on 16/Aug/18
As always, you are missing the whole point (and twisting my words indeed), Christian. I'm not criticizing you for calling certain celebs to be lowered based on a pic, but I'm criticizing your contradiction and hypocrisy in saying that you can't gauge celebrities' heights from pics (which, as I said, it's not true) when you are the same guy who often comments that this or that celebrity needs a downgrade just because of one pic (or clip).
And if you paid attention to my comments (which is the least you should do IF you want to have a discussion with me), you would have seen that I did post the couchscout owner's reply, where he says what I said: Click Here And once again, you speculate about things you don't know, considering that you have nothing to prove that couchscout data, and in particular Shawne's measurements, come from NFL. So, if anything, you're the one who is "making up random stuff and jumping to conclusions yet again", which is not surprising anymore, considering that's what you love doing: accusing other people of things you're guilty of. And I don't see how I would embarrass myself by saying that Shawne often has pretty bad posture, considering that he really doesn't seem to be standing as tall as he can in many pics. Look at him with Trump: Click Here He doesn't look over 6'3 there, assuming that Trump is around 6'0.5, but I see a good 4 inch difference between the two if Merriman stood straight, and I'm pretty sure you agree with me, don't you? 😊
As for that clip with Kassim, again, even at the minute you posted it (1:16), Kassim is standing a bit closer to the camera, and despite that, the difference still looks less than 2 inches: Click Here And it is not true that that is the best part of the clip to gauge the height difference between them because there's a point where they're standing more equidistant from the camera and the difference doesn't look that much, just like the other pics I've posted: Click Here
As always, you are missing the whole point (and twisting my words indeed), Christian. I'm not criticizing you for calling certain celebs to be lowered based on a pic, but I'm criticizing your contradiction and hypocrisy in saying that you can't gauge celebrities' heights from pics (which, as I said, it's not true) when you are the same guy who often comments that this or that celebrity needs a downgrade just because of one pic (or clip).
And if you paid attention to my comments (which is the least you should do IF you want to have a discussion with me), you would have seen that I did post the couchscout owner's reply, where he says what I said: Click Here And once again, you speculate about things you don't know, considering that you have nothing to prove that couchscout data, and in particular Shawne's measurements, come from NFL. So, if anything, you're the one who is "making up random stuff and jumping to conclusions yet again", which is not surprising anymore, considering that's what you love doing: accusing other people of things you're guilty of. And I don't see how I would embarrass myself by saying that Shawne often has pretty bad posture, considering that he really doesn't seem to be standing as tall as he can in many pics. Look at him with Trump: Click Here He doesn't look over 6'3 there, assuming that Trump is around 6'0.5, but I see a good 4 inch difference between the two if Merriman stood straight, and I'm pretty sure you agree with me, don't you? 😊
As for that clip with Kassim, again, even at the minute you posted it (1:16), Kassim is standing a bit closer to the camera, and despite that, the difference still looks less than 2 inches: Click Here And it is not true that that is the best part of the clip to gauge the height difference between them because there's a point where they're standing more equidistant from the camera and the difference doesn't look that much, just like the other pics I've posted: Click Here
viper said on 14/Aug/18
6-2.5 Etwaun Moore flat out looks taller than Merriman.
Click Here
Click Here
6-2.5 Etwaun Moore flat out looks taller than Merriman.
Click Here
Click Here
Canson said on 13/Aug/18
@Christian: lol him saying he’s 6’5” is an insult to you and being listed 6’4 here is an insult to both of us and Viper when Viper is taller than he is lol. 6’3.5 seems too high for him imho. I used to be able to say he may be 6’3” but that looks very shaky next to Melo or Seagal
@Christian: lol him saying he’s 6’5” is an insult to you and being listed 6’4 here is an insult to both of us and Viper when Viper is taller than he is lol. 6’3.5 seems too high for him imho. I used to be able to say he may be 6’3” but that looks very shaky next to Melo or Seagal
Canson said on 13/Aug/18
@Rising: I wonder about that video. It almost appeared staged imho. It was almost too convenient but you mentioned the variable that we don’t know which is footwear. I would say Seagal can look 6’3” maybe 6’3.25 and Merriman is maybe an inch shorter maybe even 2cm. I can certainly say that a 6’2.5 is a good start for him. Maybe 6’2.25 even
@Rising: I wonder about that video. It almost appeared staged imho. It was almost too convenient but you mentioned the variable that we don’t know which is footwear. I would say Seagal can look 6’3” maybe 6’3.25 and Merriman is maybe an inch shorter maybe even 2cm. I can certainly say that a 6’2.5 is a good start for him. Maybe 6’2.25 even
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Aug/18
He does look near an inch shorter than Seagal in that pic so assuming no boots for Seagal, he actally looks around the 6'2.4" figure with him. But if we assume the recent measurement is accurate then that would mean it'd have to be early and he'd have to be wearing some kind of big footwear like Timberlands or Air Max, both of which add around 1.4". It's really too bad the video didn't show feet.
He does look near an inch shorter than Seagal in that pic so assuming no boots for Seagal, he actally looks around the 6'2.4" figure with him. But if we assume the recent measurement is accurate then that would mean it'd have to be early and he'd have to be wearing some kind of big footwear like Timberlands or Air Max, both of which add around 1.4". It's really too bad the video didn't show feet.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Aug/18
@viper
I agree, he should have a 6'2.5" listing. Andrea even believes he's 6'3.5". Him being listed 6'4" is an insult to all the legit 6'4" celebs.
@viper
I agree, he should have a 6'2.5" listing. Andrea even believes he's 6'3.5". Him being listed 6'4" is an insult to all the legit 6'4" celebs.
viper said on 10/Aug/18
Rob needs to bring him down to 6-2.5, even though I think he's 6-2. He was listed at 6-3 in college so he's not over that obviously.
Needs to happen over Rob adding Rickey Jackson and Eric Dickerson
Rob needs to bring him down to 6-2.5, even though I think he's 6-2. He was listed at 6-3 in college so he's not over that obviously.
Needs to happen over Rob adding Rickey Jackson and Eric Dickerson
Dream(5'9.5") said on 9/Aug/18
This guy has so many inconsistent measurements, ROFL!
At least Jack Swagger looks a 'REAAAALLL' strong 6'4" guy!
This guy has so many inconsistent measurements, ROFL!
At least Jack Swagger looks a 'REAAAALLL' strong 6'4" guy!
Canson said on 9/Aug/18
@Viper: to me he looks at least 6’2 with him. But Phelps looked at least 6’2” in person. In fact I easily buy 6’2” and change. Maybe 6’2.25-.5
@Viper: to me he looks at least 6’2 with him. But Phelps looked at least 6’2” in person. In fact I easily buy 6’2” and change. Maybe 6’2.25-.5
Canson said on 9/Aug/18
@Viper: to me he looks at least 6’2 with him. But Phelps looked at least 6’2” in person. In fact I easily buy 6’2” and change. Maybe 6’2” and change
@Viper: to me he looks at least 6’2 with him. But Phelps looked at least 6’2” in person. In fact I easily buy 6’2” and change. Maybe 6’2” and change
viper said on 9/Aug/18
Phelps barely looks 6-2 with Ray Lewis
Phelps barely looks 6-2 with Ray Lewis
Canson said on 8/Aug/18
@Viper: unfortunately there are no good pictures of Phelps and Merriman
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@Viper: unfortunately there are no good pictures of Phelps and Merriman
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Canson said on 8/Aug/18
@Viper: I believe Merriman is Phelps’s height. I’ve met Phelps and he’s prob 6’2 and change at best. Maybe Merriman edges him slightly but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re almost identical
@Viper: I believe Merriman is Phelps’s height. I’ve met Phelps and he’s prob 6’2 and change at best. Maybe Merriman edges him slightly but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re almost identical
viper said on 8/Aug/18
Canson I see at least 2.5 inches between Merriman and 5-11.5-6-0 Derek Fisher.
It's a great pic because Merriman is standing as tall as possible. No slouching that Rob says which makes him think that's what makes him shorter.
Canson I see at least 2.5 inches between Merriman and 5-11.5-6-0 Derek Fisher.
It's a great pic because Merriman is standing as tall as possible. No slouching that Rob says which makes him think that's what makes him shorter.
viper said on 7/Aug/18
They say Mel Blount is 6-2, but he really looks his listed 6-3 the more I look at him
They say Mel Blount is 6-2, but he really looks his listed 6-3 the more I look at him
viper said on 7/Aug/18
Merriman with Jerome Bettis. Click Here
6-2 Mel Blount looks taller with Bettis.
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6-5 Plaxico Burress with Bettis. Click Here
Merriman with Jerome Bettis. Click Here
6-2 Mel Blount looks taller with Bettis.
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6-5 Plaxico Burress with Bettis. Click Here
Canson said on 6/Aug/18
@Viper: He looks 6’2.5-6’3 with Mayfield. Mayfield measured 6’0 5/8 combine and 6’0 3/8 Senior Bowl. My guess is he would be 6’0.25 at a low or maybe 6’0 1/8 as they admitted the Senior Bowl was a late arrival. But probably not a low
@Viper: He looks 6’2.5-6’3 with Mayfield. Mayfield measured 6’0 5/8 combine and 6’0 3/8 Senior Bowl. My guess is he would be 6’0.25 at a low or maybe 6’0 1/8 as they admitted the Senior Bowl was a late arrival. But probably not a low
viper said on 6/Aug/18
You know how it's impossible for Merriman to be 6-4.
He was listed at 6-4 his senior year of high school. He's then listed at 6-3 in college.
You know how it's impossible for Merriman to be 6-4.
He was listed at 6-4 his senior year of high school. He's then listed at 6-3 in college.
Dream(5'9.5 said on 6/Aug/18
So many confusing measurements, ROFL!
Rob, is this the first time you've added a celebrity, where there are so many official height guesses all over the place?
Editor Rob
So many confusing measurements, ROFL!
Rob, is this the first time you've added a celebrity, where there are so many official height guesses all over the place?
Editor RobIt's certainly a mysterious case...!
viper said on 6/Aug/18
I wish NFL.com still had the video of Merriman looking shorter than 6-1.5 Nick Barnett wearing sandals in the bills locker room
I wish NFL.com still had the video of Merriman looking shorter than 6-1.5 Nick Barnett wearing sandals in the bills locker room
viper said on 6/Aug/18
Nah his low is definitely not 6-2.5.
And Rudy Gay's 6-2 claim carries a lot of weight over me or your friend
Nah his low is definitely not 6-2.5.
And Rudy Gay's 6-2 claim carries a lot of weight over me or your friend
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Aug/18
@Andrea
If you're keep on saying that a decent pic is enough to figure out anyone's height, you have no room to criticize me for calling certain celebs to be lowered based on a pic, (and I typically only do that with pics of celebs standing next to Rob because Rob's pics are generally "decent"). But with the rest of celebs, I try to find more pics of them before making such judgements. As for Gal Gadot, I didn't say that Kelly Ripa needs a downgrade. I just said that IF Gal Gadot's 5'9.5" then Kelly Ripa needs a downgrade, since the difference between the two looked more than 7". I didn't jump to conculsions about Gal's height, so I didn't jump to conclusions about Kelly's height either. Gal being 5'9.5" is a merely a possibility. I love how you try to twist my words but continue to fail because I have an answer for it each time.
And just because the Couchscout owner said (which can't even be proven because you haven't shown us the actual message so I don't completely rule out the possibility of you fabricating it, but I'll just go by what you said) that "the less he trusts a source, the higher the BS factor", doesn't imply at all that the measurements don't come from NFL. You're making up random stuff and jumping to conclusions yet again. And the "bad posture" thing is getting really old, and I suggest you, for your own sake, to stop using that because you're embarassing yourself. It's just an easy cop-out you use when he looks around 6'2"-6'3". There are PLENTY of pics where he has normal posture and still looks 6'2"-6'3".
And believe it or not, this part was the closest to equal when it came to the camera angle in this clip, as you can see that Shawne and Kassim were standing about equal distance from the camera Click Here if you rewind, the eariler parts of the clip had a more unequal camera angle. I didn't cherry pick the clip like you're accusing me of doing. I'm being as fair and unbiased as possible. If I really wanted to make Shawne look shorter, I would've picked the earlier seconds of the clip like this Click Here but I didn't do that. As for the Peyton Manning clip, Peyton looks slightly shorter than Kassim even when they had equal camera position Click Here It was only from 0:56-57 where Peyton looked taller because he stood closer to the camera than Kassim. Sorry but your argument proved nothing. Nice try though.
@Andrea
If you're keep on saying that a decent pic is enough to figure out anyone's height, you have no room to criticize me for calling certain celebs to be lowered based on a pic, (and I typically only do that with pics of celebs standing next to Rob because Rob's pics are generally "decent"). But with the rest of celebs, I try to find more pics of them before making such judgements. As for Gal Gadot, I didn't say that Kelly Ripa needs a downgrade. I just said that IF Gal Gadot's 5'9.5" then Kelly Ripa needs a downgrade, since the difference between the two looked more than 7". I didn't jump to conculsions about Gal's height, so I didn't jump to conclusions about Kelly's height either. Gal being 5'9.5" is a merely a possibility. I love how you try to twist my words but continue to fail because I have an answer for it each time.
And just because the Couchscout owner said (which can't even be proven because you haven't shown us the actual message so I don't completely rule out the possibility of you fabricating it, but I'll just go by what you said) that "the less he trusts a source, the higher the BS factor", doesn't imply at all that the measurements don't come from NFL. You're making up random stuff and jumping to conclusions yet again. And the "bad posture" thing is getting really old, and I suggest you, for your own sake, to stop using that because you're embarassing yourself. It's just an easy cop-out you use when he looks around 6'2"-6'3". There are PLENTY of pics where he has normal posture and still looks 6'2"-6'3".
And believe it or not, this part was the closest to equal when it came to the camera angle in this clip, as you can see that Shawne and Kassim were standing about equal distance from the camera Click Here if you rewind, the eariler parts of the clip had a more unequal camera angle. I didn't cherry pick the clip like you're accusing me of doing. I'm being as fair and unbiased as possible. If I really wanted to make Shawne look shorter, I would've picked the earlier seconds of the clip like this Click Here but I didn't do that. As for the Peyton Manning clip, Peyton looks slightly shorter than Kassim even when they had equal camera position Click Here It was only from 0:56-57 where Peyton looked taller because he stood closer to the camera than Kassim. Sorry but your argument proved nothing. Nice try though.
Canson said on 6/Aug/18
@Viper: not sure if you’ve heard Chris Cooley’s radio show. He even said once that combine measurements are inflated. He is listed 6’3.5 on his but is barely 6’3 according to him and according to some who have met him say under
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@Viper: not sure if you’ve heard Chris Cooley’s radio show. He even said once that combine measurements are inflated. He is listed 6’3.5 on his but is barely 6’3 according to him and according to some who have met him say under
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Canson said on 6/Aug/18
@Viper: not sure if you’ve heard Chris Cooley’s radio show. He even said once that combine measurements are inflated. He is listed 6’3.5 on his but is barely 6’3 according to him and according to some who have met him.
@Viper: not sure if you’ve heard Chris Cooley’s radio show. He even said once that combine measurements are inflated. He is listed 6’3.5 on his but is barely 6’3 according to him and according to some who have met him.
Canson said on 6/Aug/18
@Viper: yes and Hernandez is listed 6’1”. They wouldn’t do that if he were really 6’2”. Just goes to show what you said is likely true. NFL measurements are just as F’D up as NBA. For Merriman however he’s not 6’2 in footwear. If he were 6’2.25 early AM it would be barefoot. My guess is that he had footwear on when the lady measured him and that it was relatively thick. Maybe really like 6’4 3/8 or something rounded up and it was likely in the morning. I could buy him being 6’3.25 out of bed and 6’2.5 at a low or maybe he loses a full inch during the day and is 6’3.5 out of bed. I actually went on a walk for 45 min yesterday not long after waking up then did some work in the garage and yard including lifting heavy items. I measured after about 3-4 hours and was not far off of my normal low. I was right around 194cm (6’4.25-.375) at just 1030 am or so after waking at 7am and my usual low is 6’4.25-.3
@Viper: yes and Hernandez is listed 6’1”. They wouldn’t do that if he were really 6’2”. Just goes to show what you said is likely true. NFL measurements are just as F’D up as NBA. For Merriman however he’s not 6’2 in footwear. If he were 6’2.25 early AM it would be barefoot. My guess is that he had footwear on when the lady measured him and that it was relatively thick. Maybe really like 6’4 3/8 or something rounded up and it was likely in the morning. I could buy him being 6’3.25 out of bed and 6’2.5 at a low or maybe he loses a full inch during the day and is 6’3.5 out of bed. I actually went on a walk for 45 min yesterday not long after waking up then did some work in the garage and yard including lifting heavy items. I measured after about 3-4 hours and was not far off of my normal low. I was right around 194cm (6’4.25-.375) at just 1030 am or so after waking at 7am and my usual low is 6’4.25-.3
Canson said on 4/Aug/18
@Viper: that’s true but a 6’2.2 is 6’2 1/4 meaning Smith is more like 6’1.75 or 7/8 at a low. Ozzie could be 6’2.5 not sure
@Viper: that’s true but a 6’2.2 is 6’2 1/4 meaning Smith is more like 6’1.75 or 7/8 at a low. Ozzie could be 6’2.5 not sure
Canson said on 4/Aug/18
@Rising: yea my wife was measured in shoes last year or the year before and was around 5’9” in her sneakers. but it was in the morning. Not sure if over or under but she had a sneaker that adds about 3/4”. I measured her morning height recently and she is 174.2 directly out of bed and I can recall the physical being about 2 hours after she woke up. She’s exactly 172 cm at a low
@Rising: yea my wife was measured in shoes last year or the year before and was around 5’9” in her sneakers. but it was in the morning. Not sure if over or under but she had a sneaker that adds about 3/4”. I measured her morning height recently and she is 174.2 directly out of bed and I can recall the physical being about 2 hours after she woke up. She’s exactly 172 cm at a low
viper said on 4/Aug/18
I remember Patriots fans on their board saying Hernandez looked 6-1 up close
I remember Patriots fans on their board saying Hernandez looked 6-1 up close
viper said on 4/Aug/18
It's not just Merriman
6-2 Jerry West claims 6-4.5
It's not just Merriman
6-2 Jerry West claims 6-4.5
viper said on 4/Aug/18
You know 6-2 Rock would do the same thing.
6-4.5? Don't you mean 6-5 lol
You know 6-2 Rock would do the same thing.
6-4.5? Don't you mean 6-5 lol
viper said on 4/Aug/18
NBA guys get measured over 2 inches in footwear all the time.
I figure Merriman was 6-2.25 early in the morning on that measurement in large footwear
NBA guys get measured over 2 inches in footwear all the time.
I figure Merriman was 6-2.25 early in the morning on that measurement in large footwear
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Aug/18
Last time I was measured by a nurse on a stadiometer two years ago, she let me keep both my shoes on and the hood on my sweatshirt up. I measured 5'9" in Converse(which add 5/8") and she then said she'd deduct for shoes. The one day I get measured happens to be one of the few days I'm not wearing boots!
Last time I was measured by a nurse on a stadiometer two years ago, she let me keep both my shoes on and the hood on my sweatshirt up. I measured 5'9" in Converse(which add 5/8") and she then said she'd deduct for shoes. The one day I get measured happens to be one of the few days I'm not wearing boots!
Canson said on 4/Aug/18
@Viper: at least with Bowser it’s relatively close. 6’2.3-.5 is close to 6’2.6. For Merriman you have 6’2.4 and 6’4.3 which aren’t close
@Viper: at least with Bowser it’s relatively close. 6’2.3-.5 is close to 6’2.6. For Merriman you have 6’2.4 and 6’4.3 which aren’t close
viper said on 4/Aug/18
I remember first getting measured at the doctor with my shoes on right out of high school for my college physical. It was accurate.
I remember first getting measured at the doctor with my shoes on right out of high school for my college physical. It was accurate.
viper said on 4/Aug/18
Newsome did look a hair taller than 6-2.2 Jimmy Smith when he introduced him after the draft. Newsome even said I'm 6-3 I'm taller than you, lol.
Newsome was measured at 6-2 1/2 back in the day.
Newsome did look a hair taller than 6-2.2 Jimmy Smith when he introduced him after the draft. Newsome even said I'm 6-3 I'm taller than you, lol.
Newsome was measured at 6-2 1/2 back in the day.
Canson said on 3/Aug/18
@Vegas: the nurse at my doctor’s office as well as my wife’s nurse have both tried to measure us in shoes. They did measure my wife in shoes at around 5’9 (a bit earlier in the day) and my nurse said to me “you don’t have to take them off I will just estimate the thickness of the shoe”. Long story short my wife is 174.2cm out of bed and 172.0 at a low (5’7.717). Essentially 5’7.75 not 5’9 like they listed her on her physical. For me, I didn’t oblige and took them off as it makes no sense to estimate when you can just do it properly. As well, I’m not sure if you pay attention, but Rob said that that happened to Jenny at a local hospital. And Osgood is clearly still taller than Merriman even taking that into account so Christian isn’t wrong. But you’re inconsistent. On the Rock’s page, the Rock was closer to the camera with Ndamukong Suh in the pic that you posted on his page and you argued that it didn’t matter. yet when we saw the better pic of them it was a clear 1.5- 2” difference between them. Yet with these two you are arguing it.
@Vegas: the nurse at my doctor’s office as well as my wife’s nurse have both tried to measure us in shoes. They did measure my wife in shoes at around 5’9 (a bit earlier in the day) and my nurse said to me “you don’t have to take them off I will just estimate the thickness of the shoe”. Long story short my wife is 174.2cm out of bed and 172.0 at a low (5’7.717). Essentially 5’7.75 not 5’9 like they listed her on her physical. For me, I didn’t oblige and took them off as it makes no sense to estimate when you can just do it properly. As well, I’m not sure if you pay attention, but Rob said that that happened to Jenny at a local hospital. And Osgood is clearly still taller than Merriman even taking that into account so Christian isn’t wrong. But you’re inconsistent. On the Rock’s page, the Rock was closer to the camera with Ndamukong Suh in the pic that you posted on his page and you argued that it didn’t matter. yet when we saw the better pic of them it was a clear 1.5- 2” difference between them. Yet with these two you are arguing it.
Canson said on 3/Aug/18
@Viper: with regards to Lights Out, he has a 6’2.4 Pro Day, a 6’3” college listing, and a 6’4 3/8 combine listing. Given the fact he was listed 6’3” in college, I would assume that he’s not 6’4”. The 6’2.4 Pro Day looks like the best bet. If he’s really as low as you says him, it would mean that the 6’2.4 was as a result of him having laid down before the measurement at the Pro Day or having worn extra socks etc. my thinking is that he just wasn’t standing his tallest with you. In regards to what Andrea said about him looking taller with other measured people, he can at times. However, that’s the same with Charles Barkley. First, we must remember to knock 3/8-1/2” off most people who have measured at the combine. In addition some of these may be erroneous but also it Merriman has a footwear advantage or ground level, it will make him appear taller. What I do know is that Barkley in person to people I know have met him is “similar” to me in height. Meaning if he’s taller (he likely was at his peak), it’s maybe 1/4” or a cm and is 6’4 1/2 peak (similar to the 5/8 he measured). Yet he almost always looks taller in pics which is likely due to footwear and camera angle being substantially bigger than most people he’s with in pics
@Viper: with regards to Lights Out, he has a 6’2.4 Pro Day, a 6’3” college listing, and a 6’4 3/8 combine listing. Given the fact he was listed 6’3” in college, I would assume that he’s not 6’4”. The 6’2.4 Pro Day looks like the best bet. If he’s really as low as you says him, it would mean that the 6’2.4 was as a result of him having laid down before the measurement at the Pro Day or having worn extra socks etc. my thinking is that he just wasn’t standing his tallest with you. In regards to what Andrea said about him looking taller with other measured people, he can at times. However, that’s the same with Charles Barkley. First, we must remember to knock 3/8-1/2” off most people who have measured at the combine. In addition some of these may be erroneous but also it Merriman has a footwear advantage or ground level, it will make him appear taller. What I do know is that Barkley in person to people I know have met him is “similar” to me in height. Meaning if he’s taller (he likely was at his peak), it’s maybe 1/4” or a cm and is 6’4 1/2 peak (similar to the 5/8 he measured). Yet he almost always looks taller in pics which is likely due to footwear and camera angle being substantially bigger than most people he’s with in pics
Canson said on 3/Aug/18
@Viper: Newsome is also 60 years old and may have lost height. Looking at Mosely with Ray, the weak 6’2” (6’1.5 or 5/8) looks about right especially being that he measured 6’2” in the morning.
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@Viper: Newsome is also 60 years old and may have lost height. Looking at Mosely with Ray, the weak 6’2” (6’1.5 or 5/8) looks about right especially being that he measured 6’2” in the morning.
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Canson said on 3/Aug/18
@Viper: that doesn’t make sense, I agree. Hernandez is listed 6’1 but has 3 6’2” measurements.
As for Suggs, I’ve met him before. He’s definitely not “almost 6’4”. The best case is he’s a strong 6’3” as he looked about an inch shorter than me in person
@Viper: that doesn’t make sense, I agree. Hernandez is listed 6’1 but has 3 6’2” measurements.
As for Suggs, I’ve met him before. He’s definitely not “almost 6’4”. The best case is he’s a strong 6’3” as he looked about an inch shorter than me in person
viper said on 2/Aug/18
Robert Brazille may be more 6-4.5 seeing him at the hall of fame. Wow
Robert Brazille may be more 6-4.5 seeing him at the hall of fame. Wow
viper said on 2/Aug/18
CJ Mosley was just measured at 6-2 even, yet he looks like a solid 6-2 to me and not a weak one. Especially seeing him next to a very solid 6-2 Ozzie Newsome. Ozzie claims 6-3
CJ Mosley was just measured at 6-2 even, yet he looks like a solid 6-2 to me and not a weak one. Especially seeing him next to a very solid 6-2 Ozzie Newsome. Ozzie claims 6-3
viper said on 2/Aug/18
Couchscout has Terrell Suggs at 6-3.7. That may be a different measurement.
What I have found is that when couchscout is off, it's only like barely. I haven't seen anyone that is listed inches off.
Couchscout has Terrell Suggs at 6-3.7. That may be a different measurement.
What I have found is that when couchscout is off, it's only like barely. I haven't seen anyone that is listed inches off.
viper said on 2/Aug/18
All of the measurement sites are not 100 percent accurate.
Couchscout has Tyus Bowser at 6-2.6.
He was measured at 6-2.3, 6-2.4, 6-2.5.
All of the measurement sites are not 100 percent accurate.
Couchscout has Tyus Bowser at 6-2.6.
He was measured at 6-2.3, 6-2.4, 6-2.5.
viper said on 2/Aug/18
Yeah, but Hernandez was measured over 6-2 3 times at the combine, senior bowl, and pro day.
Were they wrong all 3 times? It doesn't make sense
Yeah, but Hernandez was measured over 6-2 3 times at the combine, senior bowl, and pro day.
Were they wrong all 3 times? It doesn't make sense
Canson said on 2/Aug/18
@Rob: this is an example of a combine measurement being erroneous right here. The late Aaron Hernandez who “supposedly measured 6’2.3” yet was listed 6’1” his entire career. I mean to put it in words and I know that Viper and Christian and Rising will all see where I’m coming with their knowledge of American Football, Hernandez played Tight End which is a large man’s position. 6’1” is very small for a TE. They wouldn’t purposely underlist him if he really is that tall. What it comes down to is that Combines are just as bad in the NFL as they are in the NBA at overlisting. Chris Cooley a former Washington Redskins player even said as much before that he is “a hair under 6’3” or “right around 6’3” yet was measured 6’3.5 at the combine. He said this on his radio show
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@Rob: this is an example of a combine measurement being erroneous right here. The late Aaron Hernandez who “supposedly measured 6’2.3” yet was listed 6’1” his entire career. I mean to put it in words and I know that Viper and Christian and Rising will all see where I’m coming with their knowledge of American Football, Hernandez played Tight End which is a large man’s position. 6’1” is very small for a TE. They wouldn’t purposely underlist him if he really is that tall. What it comes down to is that Combines are just as bad in the NFL as they are in the NBA at overlisting. Chris Cooley a former Washington Redskins player even said as much before that he is “a hair under 6’3” or “right around 6’3” yet was measured 6’3.5 at the combine. He said this on his radio show
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Canson said on 2/Aug/18
@Viper: I agree and I can definitely believe it!
@Viper: I agree and I can definitely believe it!
Vegas' said on 2/Aug/18
Not sure what kind of doctor would measure a person with shoes on a stadiometer. My local doctor in a tiny rural area makes you take your shoes off.
Christian 6'5 3/8", Merriman was drafted in 2005 so why was he playing the 2006 senior bowl? As far as your video clip with Kassim Osgood goes (which I also posted months ago), Osgood is closer to camera for most of it like he is with Peyton Manning. When they are equidistant from the camera they look close in height
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Not sure what kind of doctor would measure a person with shoes on a stadiometer. My local doctor in a tiny rural area makes you take your shoes off.
Christian 6'5 3/8", Merriman was drafted in 2005 so why was he playing the 2006 senior bowl? As far as your video clip with Kassim Osgood goes (which I also posted months ago), Osgood is closer to camera for most of it like he is with Peyton Manning. When they are equidistant from the camera they look close in height
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viper said on 1/Aug/18
Hey Canson, have you noticed just how much bigger Merriman was in 2005. He was a legit 272-275. His neck was so much bigger it's insane. He joked about it in a pic then from that era.
I posted a pic a long time ago of him with a 6-2 guy from Myspace where they looked the same height. He looked Batista big in his cutoffs
Hey Canson, have you noticed just how much bigger Merriman was in 2005. He was a legit 272-275. His neck was so much bigger it's insane. He joked about it in a pic then from that era.
I posted a pic a long time ago of him with a 6-2 guy from Myspace where they looked the same height. He looked Batista big in his cutoffs
viper said on 1/Aug/18
Personally I've been measured lower and higher at the doctor. Though to be fair that's a better measuring device then at my doctors office. Much better actually.
Don't think she's making it up. She could be reading it wrong plus gigantic footwear on Merriman's part. There have been NBA players who have measured 2.75 more inches in foowear.
Personally I've been measured lower and higher at the doctor. Though to be fair that's a better measuring device then at my doctors office. Much better actually.
Don't think she's making it up. She could be reading it wrong plus gigantic footwear on Merriman's part. There have been NBA players who have measured 2.75 more inches in foowear.
Canson said on 31/Jul/18
@Rob: you should add “what he claimed to measure in this clip”. There is no guarantee that he actually measured that high or that it was barefoot. We didn’t see the measurement. That’s like taking his claim in a video at face value and when someone like Charles Barkley has an official measurement of 6’4 5/8, it’s negated
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@Rob: you should add “what he claimed to measure in this clip”. There is no guarantee that he actually measured that high or that it was barefoot. We didn’t see the measurement. That’s like taking his claim in a video at face value and when someone like Charles Barkley has an official measurement of 6’4 5/8, it’s negated
Editor RobWell it was the lady who was reading it...I'm assuming she hasn't been 'bought off' and is an honest employee of the fine establishment they are taking the video in.
Canson said on 31/Jul/18
@Christian: I think your pic with Osgood is more of how he looks. You can also see with Tomlinson and Merriman, which is only about 4-5” below. LT measured 5’10.25 at the combine so may just be 5’9.75 or 7/8. Merriman is not 6” taller than Tomlinson
Viper posted a pic on 16 March 2018 of Merriman and LT which only shows about a 4-5” difference
@Christian: I think your pic with Osgood is more of how he looks. You can also see with Tomlinson and Merriman, which is only about 4-5” below. LT measured 5’10.25 at the combine so may just be 5’9.75 or 7/8. Merriman is not 6” taller than Tomlinson
Viper posted a pic on 16 March 2018 of Merriman and LT which only shows about a 4-5” difference
Canson said on 31/Jul/18
@Andrea: you make good points but you don’t mention the other pics where Merriman clearly looks 6’2” range such as with Rosario Luis Castillo/Vincent Jackson, then with Shawn’s Kemp he surely doesn’t look 6’4” either. There are just as many out there that align with a 6’2-6’3 range measurement as there is 6’4”. Objectivity would include taking all of those into account but you don’t mention any of those occurrences in your responses to Christian. Only the pics where he looks 6’4 to you.
@Andrea: you make good points but you don’t mention the other pics where Merriman clearly looks 6’2” range such as with Rosario Luis Castillo/Vincent Jackson, then with Shawn’s Kemp he surely doesn’t look 6’4” either. There are just as many out there that align with a 6’2-6’3 range measurement as there is 6’4”. Objectivity would include taking all of those into account but you don’t mention any of those occurrences in your responses to Christian. Only the pics where he looks 6’4 to you.
viper said on 31/Jul/18
Don't the Ewtaun Moore pics really prove Merriman is nothing more than 6-2. 6-2.5 Etwaun looks so much taller.
Don't the Ewtaun Moore pics really prove Merriman is nothing more than 6-2. 6-2.5 Etwaun looks so much taller.
Andrea said on 30/Jul/18
Maybe, Christian, but the fact that I guessed Morrissey and many other celebrities near the height they turned out to be when Rob eventually met them goes to show that it is not true that pics are not enough to gauge celebrities' heights. As I said, if they are decent pics, they actually are (enough). And don't lie, because you do often call for certain celebs to be downgraded based on a single pic (or clip). That's exactly what you do with (certain) celebrities that Rob takes a picture with, when you say that they are overlisted and that they need a downgrade just because they look shorter than their listings next to Rob. Or what you do when you come out with certain comments like this one you submitted on Gal Gadot's page: "If Gal's 5'9.5", then Kelly needs a half inch downgrade.". And that's just one example, but I could go on and on...
As for couchscout, it is not true that those measurements come straight from official NFL measurements. The owner of couchscout himself did say that his data come from many sources, and that, in his own words, "the less he trusts a source, the higher the BS factor", so you're completely wrong about it.
And the fact that Shawne looks taller than 3 guys that are supposed to have been measured near an inch taller than him, according to the same couchscout, is just a giveaway that that 6-2.4 figure (which, again, means 6'2 4/8, and not 6'2.4 like you keep saying) is very likely an error. And while it is true that that figure doesn't seem impossible next to Carmelo and a few other guys, as I said, I tend to rule it out because there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 MEASURED people. Also, bear in mind that any person can look shorter than they are by dropping posture (which, in Shawne's case, most of the time certainly isn't the best posture in the world), but they CANNOT look taller than they are with any kind of posture.
As for Kassim, not only it's hard to gauge the height difference between him and Shawne from a clip like that, but you also posted it at a point where Kassim is standing closer to the camera. I wonder why (no, I actually don't)... Mind you that with an advantageous position like that, the same Kassim can even look taller than someone like Peyton Manning (and I doubt he really is): Click Here That being said, there's really no need to make things harder with a clip like that, considering that there are already a few good full-body shots of them together where you can tell that the difference between them isn't that much, and certainly nowhere near 2 inches: Click Here Click Here
Maybe, Christian, but the fact that I guessed Morrissey and many other celebrities near the height they turned out to be when Rob eventually met them goes to show that it is not true that pics are not enough to gauge celebrities' heights. As I said, if they are decent pics, they actually are (enough). And don't lie, because you do often call for certain celebs to be downgraded based on a single pic (or clip). That's exactly what you do with (certain) celebrities that Rob takes a picture with, when you say that they are overlisted and that they need a downgrade just because they look shorter than their listings next to Rob. Or what you do when you come out with certain comments like this one you submitted on Gal Gadot's page: "If Gal's 5'9.5", then Kelly needs a half inch downgrade.". And that's just one example, but I could go on and on...
As for couchscout, it is not true that those measurements come straight from official NFL measurements. The owner of couchscout himself did say that his data come from many sources, and that, in his own words, "the less he trusts a source, the higher the BS factor", so you're completely wrong about it.
And the fact that Shawne looks taller than 3 guys that are supposed to have been measured near an inch taller than him, according to the same couchscout, is just a giveaway that that 6-2.4 figure (which, again, means 6'2 4/8, and not 6'2.4 like you keep saying) is very likely an error. And while it is true that that figure doesn't seem impossible next to Carmelo and a few other guys, as I said, I tend to rule it out because there's no way a 6'2-6'3 guy can look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 MEASURED people. Also, bear in mind that any person can look shorter than they are by dropping posture (which, in Shawne's case, most of the time certainly isn't the best posture in the world), but they CANNOT look taller than they are with any kind of posture.
As for Kassim, not only it's hard to gauge the height difference between him and Shawne from a clip like that, but you also posted it at a point where Kassim is standing closer to the camera. I wonder why (no, I actually don't)... Mind you that with an advantageous position like that, the same Kassim can even look taller than someone like Peyton Manning (and I doubt he really is): Click Here That being said, there's really no need to make things harder with a clip like that, considering that there are already a few good full-body shots of them together where you can tell that the difference between them isn't that much, and certainly nowhere near 2 inches: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 29/Jul/18
@Kurtz: he lies like the Rock as well
@Kurtz: he lies like the Rock as well
Canson said on 29/Jul/18
@Christian: that was Pro Day measurement but I agree with everything you said! The Combine measurements are no more legitimate than Pro Day
@Christian: that was Pro Day measurement but I agree with everything you said! The Combine measurements are no more legitimate than Pro Day
Kurtz said on 29/Jul/18
He is the same as the rock.
6 2 for 230 245 pounds.
He is the same as the rock.
6 2 for 230 245 pounds.
Canson said on 28/Jul/18
@184guy: I agree on Melo. Merriman looks 6’2 with him and Melo is a real 6’6” guy in person. But imho he didn’t look 6’4 with Brazelale more 6’3” range. But Brazeale’s height is tricky as well. At times he looks closer to 6’6” than 6’6.5. Example with Anthony Joshua. Joshua’s height is cleare though (weak 6’6) 6’5.5-6’6 arena
@184guy: I agree on Melo. Merriman looks 6’2 with him and Melo is a real 6’6” guy in person. But imho he didn’t look 6’4 with Brazelale more 6’3” range. But Brazeale’s height is tricky as well. At times he looks closer to 6’6” than 6’6.5. Example with Anthony Joshua. Joshua’s height is cleare though (weak 6’6) 6’5.5-6’6 arena
Canson said on 28/Jul/18
@Viper: given the fact that Merriman has a significant footwear advantage on him you’re right. And people can’t use the “excuse” of it’s on grass etc because they aren’t. Merriman does have his legs spread a bit but the shoe diff would negate a lot of that
@Viper: given the fact that Merriman has a significant footwear advantage on him you’re right. And people can’t use the “excuse” of it’s on grass etc because they aren’t. Merriman does have his legs spread a bit but the shoe diff would negate a lot of that
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 27/Jul/18
@Andrea
We already went through this during the Boris debate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, just because your estimation of Morrissey and other celebs may have turned out to be true, doesn't mean that it's the case for Merriman. And I don't call for certain celebs to be downgraded based on a single pic. I look at many other pics before making judgements. Sometimes I just don't mention them in my comments.
As for the "Couchscout" measurements, they're not any less reliable and accurate than the NFL Combine measurements. In fact, the "Couchscout" measurements come straight from official NFL measurements. In Merriman's case, his 6'2.4" measurement came straight from the 2006 NFL Senior Bowl. If you're gonna say that "Couchscout" measurements have errors, you're also admitting that the official NFL measurements have errors, including the same NFL Combine measurements that you hold dearly.
And if you show me the reason why the 6'2.4" measurement is an error is because he looks taller than Phillips, Hardwick and Gates, then I can easily show you the reason why the 6'4 3/8" measurement is an error is because he looks easily 2" shorter than 6'4 7/8" measured (who's more 6'4.5" at his low) Kassim Osgood Click Here , Looks around 1.5" taller than 6'1.5" measured (who's more like 6'1 1/8" at his low) Adrian Peterson Click Here , and looks around 4" shorter than 6'6.25" measured Carmelo Anthony Click Here (even if Shawne had a footwear disadvantage in that pic like you try to suggest, the difference would very likely be no less than 3.5") Shawne looks around his 6'2.4" measurement in all of those pics. It goes to show you that he can look 6'2.5" in some pics, and 6'3.5" in some others. We're just gonna have to accept the fact that we disagree on what Shawne's true height is.
@Andrea
We already went through this during the Boris debate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, just because your estimation of Morrissey and other celebs may have turned out to be true, doesn't mean that it's the case for Merriman. And I don't call for certain celebs to be downgraded based on a single pic. I look at many other pics before making judgements. Sometimes I just don't mention them in my comments.
As for the "Couchscout" measurements, they're not any less reliable and accurate than the NFL Combine measurements. In fact, the "Couchscout" measurements come straight from official NFL measurements. In Merriman's case, his 6'2.4" measurement came straight from the 2006 NFL Senior Bowl. If you're gonna say that "Couchscout" measurements have errors, you're also admitting that the official NFL measurements have errors, including the same NFL Combine measurements that you hold dearly.
And if you show me the reason why the 6'2.4" measurement is an error is because he looks taller than Phillips, Hardwick and Gates, then I can easily show you the reason why the 6'4 3/8" measurement is an error is because he looks easily 2" shorter than 6'4 7/8" measured (who's more 6'4.5" at his low) Kassim Osgood Click Here , Looks around 1.5" taller than 6'1.5" measured (who's more like 6'1 1/8" at his low) Adrian Peterson Click Here , and looks around 4" shorter than 6'6.25" measured Carmelo Anthony Click Here (even if Shawne had a footwear disadvantage in that pic like you try to suggest, the difference would very likely be no less than 3.5") Shawne looks around his 6'2.4" measurement in all of those pics. It goes to show you that he can look 6'2.5" in some pics, and 6'3.5" in some others. We're just gonna have to accept the fact that we disagree on what Shawne's true height is.
Andrea said on 27/Jul/18
6-2.4 means 6'2 4/8, which is exactly 6'2.5, so I don't see how I'm wrong, viper. I know that heights are not your forte, but apparently even maths isn't.
6-2.4 means 6'2 4/8, which is exactly 6'2.5, so I don't see how I'm wrong, viper. I know that heights are not your forte, but apparently even maths isn't.
Andrea said on 27/Jul/18
I highly doubt they're standing with similar postures there, 184guy, but even if that was the case, if anything, Shawne does look comfortably taller than Armie if you look at the top of their heads... In any case, I would never use a picture like that to draw any conclusion for the reasons I have stated before.
I highly doubt they're standing with similar postures there, 184guy, but even if that was the case, if anything, Shawne does look comfortably taller than Armie if you look at the top of their heads... In any case, I would never use a picture like that to draw any conclusion for the reasons I have stated before.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 26/Jul/18
@Canson
Next to Kassim Osgood, Merriman looks max 6'2.5" as well.
@Canson
Next to Kassim Osgood, Merriman looks max 6'2.5" as well.
Nik said on 26/Jul/18
@ Sandy Cowell - Too true, it sure must! The traffic cops ain't daft!
@ Sandy Cowell - Too true, it sure must! The traffic cops ain't daft!
viper said on 26/Jul/18
Donnie Edwards is 6-1.5
Donnie Edwards is 6-1.5
Canson said on 26/Jul/18
@Viper: Fisher is at least 6’0”. He’s not significantly shorter than President Obama and Kobe isn’t almost 6’” taller than him. He may even be 6’0” and change. nonetheless, he is only 2” shorter than merriman which puts him around 6’2” Maybe 6’2.5 and that is one of the best pics that we have seen of Merriman. He’s definitely not 6’4” there.
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@Viper: Fisher is at least 6’0”. He’s not significantly shorter than President Obama and Kobe isn’t almost 6’” taller than him. He may even be 6’0” and change. nonetheless, he is only 2” shorter than merriman which puts him around 6’2” Maybe 6’2.5 and that is one of the best pics that we have seen of Merriman. He’s definitely not 6’4” there.
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Canson said on 26/Jul/18
@Viper: Andrea actually is right. 4/8 is 1/2. the NFL measures in 1/8” increments as opposed to 1/4” like the NBA
@Viper: Andrea actually is right. 4/8 is 1/2. the NFL measures in 1/8” increments as opposed to 1/4” like the NBA
viper said on 26/Jul/18
6-2.5 Etwaun Moore with 5-11 Derek Fisher. Click Here
Merriman with Fisher. Click Here
6-2.5 Etwaun Moore with 5-11 Derek Fisher. Click Here
Merriman with Fisher. Click Here
184guy said on 25/Jul/18
@Andrea
They are with similar posture ( the defense stand used in boxing ) ;Armie is nearer
the camera but the angle advantage is for Shawne;and he is in a 2,5-3cm footwear advantage , yet they look about the same height. Pretty hard to see them just half inch apart. I believe shawne could be around 6'3.5 but I must admit , he is very hard to catch . Looked only 6'2 with Carmelo but looked just over 6'4 with Dominic Breazele.
@Andrea
They are with similar posture ( the defense stand used in boxing ) ;Armie is nearer
the camera but the angle advantage is for Shawne;and he is in a 2,5-3cm footwear advantage , yet they look about the same height. Pretty hard to see them just half inch apart. I believe shawne could be around 6'3.5 but I must admit , he is very hard to catch . Looked only 6'2 with Carmelo but looked just over 6'4 with Dominic Breazele.
Canson said on 25/Jul/18
Not the best way to gauge heights from this video but based on how Michael Irvin looks in front of the camera as well as Baker Mayfield, it’s clear that Irvin and Merriman look very similar. I’ve met Irvin in person and he looked “about” 6’2” in person. If he’s under, it’s nothing significant maybe 6’1.75 is an absolute worst case
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Not the best way to gauge heights from this video but based on how Michael Irvin looks in front of the camera as well as Baker Mayfield, it’s clear that Irvin and Merriman look very similar. I’ve met Irvin in person and he looked “about” 6’2” in person. If he’s under, it’s nothing significant maybe 6’1.75 is an absolute worst case
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Canson said on 25/Jul/18
@Viper: he does not look 6’3” with Melo, But he’s not as low as 6’1” with him either. He’s 6’2” range with Melo. Melo measured 6’6.25 at the Combine. I will say he surely isn’t taller than that but I would say he’s certainly not less than 6’6 and likely somewhere in between the two marks. 6’6-6’6.25 is possible for him. 6’6” flat is as well
@Viper: he does not look 6’3” with Melo, But he’s not as low as 6’1” with him either. He’s 6’2” range with Melo. Melo measured 6’6.25 at the Combine. I will say he surely isn’t taller than that but I would say he’s certainly not less than 6’6 and likely somewhere in between the two marks. 6’6-6’6.25 is possible for him. 6’6” flat is as well
Canson said on 25/Jul/18
Couch scout is no less reliable than the Combine when it comes to “Errors”. Both can make them
Couch scout is no less reliable than the Combine when it comes to “Errors”. Both can make them
Canson said on 25/Jul/18
6’5.1 combine measured Nelson Rosario (likely weak 6’5 in the afternoon) with Merriman
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Merriman with 5’11 7/8 Drew Brees
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Merriman with 6’4 5/8 combine (meaning 6’4 1/8-1/4 Vince Young)
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Merriman with 6026 (morning) Luis Castillo and 6046 (morning) 6’4 3/8 (Senior Bowl measured) Vincent Jackson. It also clearly stated in the article that the combine occurred in the early morning in 2006 so it aligns perfectly with an afternoon height. Merriman’s height also aligns perfectly considering Jackson is clearly close to if not a full 2” taller than Shawne
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Shawne with 6’6” measured Stephen Jackson and 6’4 listed Marcellus Wiley
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Next to 6’2” listed Donnie Edwards. Merriman also has a footwear advantage over Edwards in the picture
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Titus O’Neill with Merriman
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With 6’8.5 Shawn kemp (who is leaning and Merriman is standing straight)
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Merriman with Ray Lewis (6’0.75 measured)
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Merriman is nowhere near 6’4. He’s max 6’2.5.
6’5.1 combine measured Nelson Rosario (likely weak 6’5 in the afternoon) with Merriman
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Merriman with 5’11 7/8 Drew Brees
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Merriman with 6’4 5/8 combine (meaning 6’4 1/8-1/4 Vince Young)
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Merriman with 6026 (morning) Luis Castillo and 6046 (morning) 6’4 3/8 (Senior Bowl measured) Vincent Jackson. It also clearly stated in the article that the combine occurred in the early morning in 2006 so it aligns perfectly with an afternoon height. Merriman’s height also aligns perfectly considering Jackson is clearly close to if not a full 2” taller than Shawne
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Shawne with 6’6” measured Stephen Jackson and 6’4 listed Marcellus Wiley
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Next to 6’2” listed Donnie Edwards. Merriman also has a footwear advantage over Edwards in the picture
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Titus O’Neill with Merriman
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With 6’8.5 Shawn kemp (who is leaning and Merriman is standing straight)
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Merriman with Ray Lewis (6’0.75 measured)
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Merriman is nowhere near 6’4. He’s max 6’2.5.
viper said on 25/Jul/18
You are wrong Andrea. 6-2.4 is 6-2 1/2. 6-2.5 is 6-2 5/8. Nobody in the NFL gets measured at 6-2 4/8
You are wrong Andrea. 6-2.4 is 6-2 1/2. 6-2.5 is 6-2 5/8. Nobody in the NFL gets measured at 6-2 4/8
viper said on 25/Jul/18
6-2.4 is pretty specific. It comes from his pro day measurement that NFL.com has him at 6-2.
6-2.4 is pretty specific. It comes from his pro day measurement that NFL.com has him at 6-2.
Andrea said on 25/Jul/18
184guy, considering that none of them are standing tall there and that it is obviously IMPOSSIBLE to tell how much height either of them are losing with those stances, I wonder how you can conclude that Shawne looks shorter than Armie...
184guy, considering that none of them are standing tall there and that it is obviously IMPOSSIBLE to tell how much height either of them are losing with those stances, I wonder how you can conclude that Shawne looks shorter than Armie...
Andrea said on 25/Jul/18
As I said, Christian, I did guess David Morrissey at 6'2 range (and many other celebrities near the height they turned out to be when Rob eventually met them), by simply looking at pics, so it is not true that pics alone "don't tell the full story". If they are decent pics, they do. Plus, it's funny that you say something like that when you are the same guy who often comments that this or that celebrity needs a downgrade, based only on one picture...
And considering how often you bring up viper and Canson's friend, it is quite hard to believe that you're not basing your estimate for Shawne on them. If they are really not evidence to you, like you keep saying, then it makes no sense to keep bringing them up. And Shawne getting measured at 6-2.4 (which, btw, means 6'2 4/8, like I've always said and like the owner of couchscout confirmed me via email) is not a fact, so stop acting as if it was, by saying that he was measured at that mark. If that was the case, like you say, I'm sure Rob would have put him down to that mark a long time ago. As I said a million times, the thing with that figure is that not only it comes from an unofficial site like couchscout whose owner admitted that its data aren't always reliable and exempt of errors, but the same couchscout page that has Shawne at 6'2 4/8, also has Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which is quite hard to believe, considering that Shawne looks easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
As I said, Christian, I did guess David Morrissey at 6'2 range (and many other celebrities near the height they turned out to be when Rob eventually met them), by simply looking at pics, so it is not true that pics alone "don't tell the full story". If they are decent pics, they do. Plus, it's funny that you say something like that when you are the same guy who often comments that this or that celebrity needs a downgrade, based only on one picture...
And considering how often you bring up viper and Canson's friend, it is quite hard to believe that you're not basing your estimate for Shawne on them. If they are really not evidence to you, like you keep saying, then it makes no sense to keep bringing them up. And Shawne getting measured at 6-2.4 (which, btw, means 6'2 4/8, like I've always said and like the owner of couchscout confirmed me via email) is not a fact, so stop acting as if it was, by saying that he was measured at that mark. If that was the case, like you say, I'm sure Rob would have put him down to that mark a long time ago. As I said a million times, the thing with that figure is that not only it comes from an unofficial site like couchscout whose owner admitted that its data aren't always reliable and exempt of errors, but the same couchscout page that has Shawne at 6'2 4/8, also has Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which is quite hard to believe, considering that Shawne looks easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
Sandy Cowell said on 25/Jul/18
@ Nik - Oh, I get it now - to disguise the smell of alcohol! It doesn't work though, as your Dad would have vouched, as it arouses suspicion, especially in traffic cops!
@ Nik - Oh, I get it now - to disguise the smell of alcohol! It doesn't work though, as your Dad would have vouched, as it arouses suspicion, especially in traffic cops!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Jul/18
Shawne looks easily 2 inches shorter than 6'4 7/8" measured Kassim Osgood, who's more like 6'4.5"-ish at his low. Click Here Click Here That makes Shawne look max 6'2.5"
Shawne looks easily 2 inches shorter than 6'4 7/8" measured Kassim Osgood, who's more like 6'4.5"-ish at his low. Click Here Click Here That makes Shawne look max 6'2.5"
viper said on 24/Jul/18
Andrea, Merriman looks nowhere close to 6-3 with Carmelo
Andrea, Merriman looks nowhere close to 6-3 with Carmelo
viper said on 24/Jul/18
6-2 Latavius Murray with Adrian Peterson. Click Here
Merriman with Peterson Click Here
6-2 Latavius Murray with Adrian Peterson. Click Here
Merriman with Peterson Click Here
Canson said on 24/Jul/18
@Christian: I will say that Andrea has his points in his argument but on that same token, he can’t simply “dismiss” the fact that there is just as much evidence that he’s 6’2” range. Even taking the encounters out completely, the pictures and measurements speak for themselves just like the pics of him he posted speak to 6’4”. It’s more a matter of quality pictures vs questionable pics here
@Christian: I will say that Andrea has his points in his argument but on that same token, he can’t simply “dismiss” the fact that there is just as much evidence that he’s 6’2” range. Even taking the encounters out completely, the pictures and measurements speak for themselves just like the pics of him he posted speak to 6’4”. It’s more a matter of quality pictures vs questionable pics here
Canson said on 24/Jul/18
@Christian: right he was listed 6’3” at MD!
@Christian: right he was listed 6’3” at MD!
Nik said on 24/Jul/18
@ Sandy Cowell - He can have some Merrimints, and 6'3.5"!
@ Sandy Cowell - He can have some Merrimints, and 6'3.5"!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 23/Jul/18
Shawne looks easily 2 inches shorter than 6'4 7/8" measured Kassim Osgood, who's more like 6'4.5"-ish at his low. Click Here Click Here That makes Shawne look max 6'2.5"
Shawne looks easily 2 inches shorter than 6'4 7/8" measured Kassim Osgood, who's more like 6'4.5"-ish at his low. Click Here Click Here That makes Shawne look max 6'2.5"
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 23/Jul/18
@Andrea
The point I'm making is that figuring out some celebs' heights aren't that simple compared to others. Just like it applies to Pamela Anderson and David Morrissey, it also applies to celebs like Callum Blue. You don't seem to realize that depending on celebs, pics alone don't tell the full story about their heights. I know that a few celebs can potentially be taller than what they seem, like Callum Blue, but that's rarer than the other way around.
And I've said over and over again that I've never based my estimate for Shawne on people meeting him and saying he's a certain height. I estimate him at 6'2.5" because that's the height he was measured at (6'2.4"), as well as looking around that height in a lot of pics. I don't estimate him at 6'2" or 6'4". All I'm suggesting is that Viper and Canson's friend could be likelier to be a bit more accurate than the two guys on Twitter.
Editor Rob
@Andrea
The point I'm making is that figuring out some celebs' heights aren't that simple compared to others. Just like it applies to Pamela Anderson and David Morrissey, it also applies to celebs like Callum Blue. You don't seem to realize that depending on celebs, pics alone don't tell the full story about their heights. I know that a few celebs can potentially be taller than what they seem, like Callum Blue, but that's rarer than the other way around.
And I've said over and over again that I've never based my estimate for Shawne on people meeting him and saying he's a certain height. I estimate him at 6'2.5" because that's the height he was measured at (6'2.4"), as well as looking around that height in a lot of pics. I don't estimate him at 6'2" or 6'4". All I'm suggesting is that Viper and Canson's friend could be likelier to be a bit more accurate than the two guys on Twitter.
Editor RobSome heights are looked at a fair amount, but many might be looked at far less and in some cases years ago...so lots of edits occur over time. If I know an actor is set to appear at an event in the future, I am likely to wait until seeing them before deciding if the listing is fair or could do with a tweak 😉
viper said on 23/Jul/18
Check out what 5-1 Lady Gaga said.
In 2018 she has claimed "I recently found out I'm five-foot-three and three quarters".
Check out what 5-1 Lady Gaga said.
In 2018 she has claimed "I recently found out I'm five-foot-three and three quarters".
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 22/Jul/18
@Rob
You should add his 6'3" listing while he played college football, in the description. Click Here
Editor Rob
@Rob
You should add his 6'3" listing while he played college football, in the description. Click Here
Editor RobI'll work that into his description.
Canson said on 22/Jul/18
@Rob: he would never show his feet. He knows he’s not a barefoot 6’5 let alone 6’4. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he measures 6’4 3/8 or very close to it (maybe even with a Bust a Gut) in shoes or that the measurement at the Combine is erroneous.
@Rob: he would never show his feet. He knows he’s not a barefoot 6’5 let alone 6’4. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he measures 6’4 3/8 or very close to it (maybe even with a Bust a Gut) in shoes or that the measurement at the Combine is erroneous.
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Jul/18
That's rather a jolly name! How appropriate then is it for him to have a red-nosed emoji and some booze?
Red nose ➡️ 👺
Sustenance ➡️ 🍺🍻🥃🍹🍷😋
Oh, Shawnie can also have a very merry 6ft3.5!
That's rather a jolly name! How appropriate then is it for him to have a red-nosed emoji and some booze?
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Canson said on 22/Jul/18
@Viper: I wish we had a better picture of Merriman with Snoop. This one is bad. I would bet money that Snoop (who’s probably more like 6’3 1/2 than 6’4), would edge Merriman if he’s not wearing lifts
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@Viper: I wish we had a better picture of Merriman with Snoop. This one is bad. I would bet money that Snoop (who’s probably more like 6’3 1/2 than 6’4), would edge Merriman if he’s not wearing lifts
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Canson said on 22/Jul/18
@Andrea: what you said to Viper won’t happen (a 6’2-6’3 guy measuring 6’4.5 in shoes), actually could happen. He may have been measured in the morning at 6’4.5 in shoes and can be 6’3.25 maybe 6’3 if he has thicker footwear. That could easily make him 6’2.5 in the afternoon or anywhere 6’2.25-.75 depending on how much footwear he has on. Other variable is who is to say even if the video isn’t staged, that Merriman wasn’t more like 193.8 or 193.9cm and not rounded up to 6’4.5? I’m positive I’ve been rounded up to 6’4.5 if I’ve been measured around 1/3” or 3/8” before. Not saying it did happen but it’s possible. So all that taken into account, If he had an early morning appointment, he could easily be 6’2-6’3” range.
@Andrea: what you said to Viper won’t happen (a 6’2-6’3 guy measuring 6’4.5 in shoes), actually could happen. He may have been measured in the morning at 6’4.5 in shoes and can be 6’3.25 maybe 6’3 if he has thicker footwear. That could easily make him 6’2.5 in the afternoon or anywhere 6’2.25-.75 depending on how much footwear he has on. Other variable is who is to say even if the video isn’t staged, that Merriman wasn’t more like 193.8 or 193.9cm and not rounded up to 6’4.5? I’m positive I’ve been rounded up to 6’4.5 if I’ve been measured around 1/3” or 3/8” before. Not saying it did happen but it’s possible. So all that taken into account, If he had an early morning appointment, he could easily be 6’2-6’3” range.
Andrea said on 21/Jul/18
184guy, I don't know which pic (or video) you're talking about, but he doesn't look any shorter than Armie Hammer here. If anything, he looks a bit taller: Click Here And although we can't see their footwear, I highly doubt Armie is barefoot there...
184guy, I don't know which pic (or video) you're talking about, but he doesn't look any shorter than Armie Hammer here. If anything, he looks a bit taller: Click Here And although we can't see their footwear, I highly doubt Armie is barefoot there...
Andrea said on 21/Jul/18
Again with this Pamela Anderson (and David Morrissey) story, Christian? Who said that they looked 5'6 and 6'3 more often than they did 5'5 and 6'2 in pics??? I can't speak for Pamela because I basically had seen nothing of her before Rob met her, but David certainly never looked 6'3, to me. And do you know how I came to that conclusion before Rob met him and confirmed it? By simply looking at pics of him with people that Rob met (so whose heights are certainly more confirmed than others), such as Jose Pablo Cantillo and Vincent M Ward, and comparing him with them. So stop acting as if celebrities can be noticeably shorter(/taller) than what they generally look in pictures. IF you look at ENOUGH pictures of them with people whose height is more or less CONFIRMED (so with people that Rob has met or people that were officially measured at a certain mark) AND have a decent knowledge about height differences/camera tricks/etc., you can certainly get a very good idea of how tall they are, even without meeting (or measuring) them. The reason why Rob had Pamela at 5'6 and David at 6'3 is probably because he hadn't looked enough at them (and/or he just gave them generous benefits of doubt). And I certainly don't blame him for that, considering that he has a huge number of celebrities on the site and that he cannot "keep track" of all of them. This is what posters should be for: to help him getting a better idea. Plus, it's funny how you keep bringing up Pamela Anderson as leverage to say that every celebrity (well, only the ones you want) could turn out to be noticeably shorter than their listings if Rob ever meets them... Going by that "logic", I could easily turn the tables and say that since Rob moved Callum Blue from 6'0 to 6'1 after meeting him, every celebrity could turn out to be noticeably taller than their listings if Rob ever meets them, but I don't for the reason I have stated.
As for the "people meeting Shawne" thing, as I said, being CH visitors or honest about your height doesn't prove or guarantee anything, so saying that viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because of that is pure speculation and leads nowhere, besides the fact that a guy who has experience about heights, like you say, would never come out with certain estimates and statements, so I really don't know which "experienced" guy you're talking about there...
Again with this Pamela Anderson (and David Morrissey) story, Christian? Who said that they looked 5'6 and 6'3 more often than they did 5'5 and 6'2 in pics??? I can't speak for Pamela because I basically had seen nothing of her before Rob met her, but David certainly never looked 6'3, to me. And do you know how I came to that conclusion before Rob met him and confirmed it? By simply looking at pics of him with people that Rob met (so whose heights are certainly more confirmed than others), such as Jose Pablo Cantillo and Vincent M Ward, and comparing him with them. So stop acting as if celebrities can be noticeably shorter(/taller) than what they generally look in pictures. IF you look at ENOUGH pictures of them with people whose height is more or less CONFIRMED (so with people that Rob has met or people that were officially measured at a certain mark) AND have a decent knowledge about height differences/camera tricks/etc., you can certainly get a very good idea of how tall they are, even without meeting (or measuring) them. The reason why Rob had Pamela at 5'6 and David at 6'3 is probably because he hadn't looked enough at them (and/or he just gave them generous benefits of doubt). And I certainly don't blame him for that, considering that he has a huge number of celebrities on the site and that he cannot "keep track" of all of them. This is what posters should be for: to help him getting a better idea. Plus, it's funny how you keep bringing up Pamela Anderson as leverage to say that every celebrity (well, only the ones you want) could turn out to be noticeably shorter than their listings if Rob ever meets them... Going by that "logic", I could easily turn the tables and say that since Rob moved Callum Blue from 6'0 to 6'1 after meeting him, every celebrity could turn out to be noticeably taller than their listings if Rob ever meets them, but I don't for the reason I have stated.
As for the "people meeting Shawne" thing, as I said, being CH visitors or honest about your height doesn't prove or guarantee anything, so saying that viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because of that is pure speculation and leads nowhere, besides the fact that a guy who has experience about heights, like you say, would never come out with certain estimates and statements, so I really don't know which "experienced" guy you're talking about there...
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Viper: I can certainly say that 6’4.5 barefoot is impossible even out of bed. He may be 6’3 in the morning and 6’2.5 at a low like Christian said. 184guy made another valid point as he did a few months back when he and Harry Sachs stated that Marcellus Wiley is at least an inch taller than Merriman (assuming Wiley is a legit 6’4” at a low). It’s safe to say that Merriman is not over 6’3” flat (6’2.75 imho would be a best case)
@Viper: I can certainly say that 6’4.5 barefoot is impossible even out of bed. He may be 6’3 in the morning and 6’2.5 at a low like Christian said. 184guy made another valid point as he did a few months back when he and Harry Sachs stated that Marcellus Wiley is at least an inch taller than Merriman (assuming Wiley is a legit 6’4” at a low). It’s safe to say that Merriman is not over 6’3” flat (6’2.75 imho would be a best case)
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
He doesn’t not “genuinely” “believe” to be 6’5” In the clip. He is “negotiating” with the nurse to boost him up to 6’5”. Clear as day
He doesn’t not “genuinely” “believe” to be 6’5” In the clip. He is “negotiating” with the nurse to boost him up to 6’5”. Clear as day
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rob and Viper: let’s say it’s not staged. that unknown is a huge factor. If he is wearing 1.5” footwear and measured 6’4.5 it means he’s only 6’3” and we also don’t know when it took place. While I don’t see that he’s as low as Viper estimated (although I won’t rule it out because I didn’t meet him), I also won’t rule out 6’2.5-6’3 if he stood straight but I’d go more 6’2-6’2.5 if I had to make the guess
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@Rob and Viper: let’s say it’s not staged. that unknown is a huge factor. If he is wearing 1.5” footwear and measured 6’4.5 it means he’s only 6’3” and we also don’t know when it took place. While I don’t see that he’s as low as Viper estimated (although I won’t rule it out because I didn’t meet him), I also won’t rule out 6’2.5-6’3 if he stood straight but I’d go more 6’2-6’2.5 if I had to make the guess
Editor RobThe idea of him being in sneakers shouldn't be dismissed outright.
I suppose an argument could be it would have been easy to show feet up and then zoom in on the stadiometer - that would have put end to any arguments!
I suppose an argument could be it would have been easy to show feet up and then zoom in on the stadiometer - that would have put end to any arguments!
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Andrea: you just said that we cannot see footwear in the pic with Melo and Merriman but that Merriman has less footwear than Melo at the event? How can you tell that if you just said you can’t see the pic? Either way that’s a about 4” difference between them in the pic so if Melo has an advantage its not likely more than maybe a CM (best case 1/2”). That puts Merriman closer to 6’3” (albeit maybe 6’2.75)
@Andrea: you just said that we cannot see footwear in the pic with Melo and Merriman but that Merriman has less footwear than Melo at the event? How can you tell that if you just said you can’t see the pic? Either way that’s a about 4” difference between them in the pic so if Melo has an advantage its not likely more than maybe a CM (best case 1/2”). That puts Merriman closer to 6’3” (albeit maybe 6’2.75)
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rising and Viper: yea with Melo in person he’s absolute max 6’6.25 but not less than 6’6”. He could be right in between or right at either fraction. He definitely isn’t less than 6’6” though for sure. The people around me said 1.5-2” taller than me. At a quicker glance I got the impression it was closer to 2”.
@Rising and Viper: yea with Melo in person he’s absolute max 6’6.25 but not less than 6’6”. He could be right in between or right at either fraction. He definitely isn’t less than 6’6” though for sure. The people around me said 1.5-2” taller than me. At a quicker glance I got the impression it was closer to 2”.
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rob: the video itself is staged. Of course the medical worker would do that if Merriman himself is joking around as well. He knows he isn’t that tall and he’s trying to make himself that tall. I agree with Viper here
@Rob: the video itself is staged. Of course the medical worker would do that if Merriman himself is joking around as well. He knows he isn’t that tall and he’s trying to make himself that tall. I agree with Viper here
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rising: I have to say that what you said below is 100% spot on and very very sensible and logical!
@Rising: I have to say that what you said below is 100% spot on and very very sensible and logical!
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Rob: I see what you are saying but when you look at a pic like this that Viper posted where they’re on stage (next to a guy who measured 6’5.1 in the morning) so probably 195cm at low, he doesn’t look over 6’2” next to him and Merriman wouldn’t be slouching there I doubt
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@Rob: I see what you are saying but when you look at a pic like this that Viper posted where they’re on stage (next to a guy who measured 6’5.1 in the morning) so probably 195cm at low, he doesn’t look over 6’2” next to him and Merriman wouldn’t be slouching there I doubt
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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Jul/18
@Andrea
That was because I didn't find pics of Shawne looking more than 6'3.5" at the time when I made that comment. I only found those pics after that comment was posted. And just because Shawne may look 6'3.5" range in a bit more pics than he looks 6'2.5", doesn't mean that 6'2.5" isn't a good possibility. Look at Pamela Anderson and David Morrissey who were listed about an inch taller than what they are listed now with Pamela from 5'6" to 5'5" and David from either 6'3" or 6'2.75" (can't remeber which) to 6'2". These two looked 5'6" and 6'3" more often than they did 5'5" and 6'2" in pics, but it turned out that they're the latter heights when Rob met them. Guessing a celeb's height sometimes isn't as simple as it seems.
And I don't consider Viper and Canson's friend meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'2" as evidence that he's 6'2" any more than I consider the two Twitter guys meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'4" as evidence that he's 6'4". Both are anecdotes. Like I said, I estimate Shawne to be 6'2.5" and not 6'2" or 6'4", which goes to show you that I don't base my guesses on someone meeting a celeb. I only said that Viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because Viper's a long time CH visitor and has experience about heights and Canson's friend is honest about his height and doesn't inflate, while the two Twitter guys aren't CH visitors and I don't know whether they inflate their heights or not, and I'm more inclined that they might do since a lot of people do it to a degree. If it was the other way around (Canson's friend and Viper guessing Shawne at 6'4" and the two Twitter guys guessing him at 6'2"), I would still be inclined to believe that the former two would be more accurate with their assessments.
@Andrea
That was because I didn't find pics of Shawne looking more than 6'3.5" at the time when I made that comment. I only found those pics after that comment was posted. And just because Shawne may look 6'3.5" range in a bit more pics than he looks 6'2.5", doesn't mean that 6'2.5" isn't a good possibility. Look at Pamela Anderson and David Morrissey who were listed about an inch taller than what they are listed now with Pamela from 5'6" to 5'5" and David from either 6'3" or 6'2.75" (can't remeber which) to 6'2". These two looked 5'6" and 6'3" more often than they did 5'5" and 6'2" in pics, but it turned out that they're the latter heights when Rob met them. Guessing a celeb's height sometimes isn't as simple as it seems.
And I don't consider Viper and Canson's friend meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'2" as evidence that he's 6'2" any more than I consider the two Twitter guys meeting Shawne and guessing him at 6'4" as evidence that he's 6'4". Both are anecdotes. Like I said, I estimate Shawne to be 6'2.5" and not 6'2" or 6'4", which goes to show you that I don't base my guesses on someone meeting a celeb. I only said that Viper and Canson's friend are probably more likely to be more accurate than the two Twitter guys because Viper's a long time CH visitor and has experience about heights and Canson's friend is honest about his height and doesn't inflate, while the two Twitter guys aren't CH visitors and I don't know whether they inflate their heights or not, and I'm more inclined that they might do since a lot of people do it to a degree. If it was the other way around (Canson's friend and Viper guessing Shawne at 6'4" and the two Twitter guys guessing him at 6'2"), I would still be inclined to believe that the former two would be more accurate with their assessments.
viper said on 20/Jul/18
Rising and whats what I saw him at up close in the flesh next to Fabolous, 187-188cm.
I wish NFL.com still had the Buffalo locker room video of Merriman with 6'1.5 Nick Barnett. Merriman was in sandals and Barnett in shoes. Barnett looked an inch taller.
Rising and whats what I saw him at up close in the flesh next to Fabolous, 187-188cm.
I wish NFL.com still had the Buffalo locker room video of Merriman with 6'1.5 Nick Barnett. Merriman was in sandals and Barnett in shoes. Barnett looked an inch taller.
Andrea said on 20/Jul/18
It doesn't (make sense) to you, viper. Since we can't see his feet, we do not know whether he is barefoot or in shoes, but I highly doubt the measurement was "staged" or something like that. And all of that certainly makes something like 6'2-6'3 very unlikely, considering that no 6'2-6'3 guy would ever measure as tall as 6'4.5, even with shoes on (unless they're lifts of course).
Now, sentences like these really do not make sense, although I must say they're pretty amusing to read:
"viper said on 15/Jul/18
So Canson, what do you think of that. Shoes with a bunch of socks, or even boots with a bunch of socks? Or totally staged?"
"viper said on 16/Jul/18
Would the Rock do the same thing at the doctor?
Does this prove Merriman wears lifts?"
"viper said on 19/Jul/18
With big enough shoes you can stand on your toes"
"viper said on 19/Jul/18
I can measure 6-5 in shoes lifting my toes up a bit inside of them."
It doesn't (make sense) to you, viper. Since we can't see his feet, we do not know whether he is barefoot or in shoes, but I highly doubt the measurement was "staged" or something like that. And all of that certainly makes something like 6'2-6'3 very unlikely, considering that no 6'2-6'3 guy would ever measure as tall as 6'4.5, even with shoes on (unless they're lifts of course).
Now, sentences like these really do not make sense, although I must say they're pretty amusing to read:
"viper said on 15/Jul/18
So Canson, what do you think of that. Shoes with a bunch of socks, or even boots with a bunch of socks? Or totally staged?"
"viper said on 16/Jul/18
Would the Rock do the same thing at the doctor?
Does this prove Merriman wears lifts?"
"viper said on 19/Jul/18
With big enough shoes you can stand on your toes"
"viper said on 19/Jul/18
I can measure 6-5 in shoes lifting my toes up a bit inside of them."
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