How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0in (213 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career.

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Logic said on 27/Jul/16
dicksock said on 24/Jul/16

I noticed you have ignored the fact that Todd claimed Khali was the tallest of the three. Although Khali is listed as 7'1" on this site, he is the exact same height as Shaq, who is listed as 7' on this site. So according to Todd, Andre was noticeably shorter than a 7'-7'1" man. Once again, this shows that Andre was 6'11"-7'. Funny how that works isn't it?
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Terry Todd did not say that Khali was the tallest of the three. JT was the one that said that in his question to Todd. Todd did not even mention Khali's name in his response to JT. But what Todd did say in his response to JT was, "As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two."


So, Todd said that he thought that Andre was about 7' or so early in his career. As for me, I personally feel that Andre's peak height was between 6'11"-7'. And more precisely I would say that he looked a tad over 6' 11" in the late 1970' early 1980's. But since I have not seen enough photos of Andre in his early 20's standing beside other tall people I cannot say for sure if he ever reached the 7' mark. But I feel that he did reach the 6'11" mark and he may have possibly been 7' out of bed in his early 20's.

Here is Terry Todd's response to JT question.

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Terry Todd said on July 12, 2010:

JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for control as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring.
dicksock said on 25/Jul/16
Chaz said on 24/Jul/16
Boss said on 23/Jul/16
Here is Andre's head 24.35% larger than Hogan's. They are face to face and equal distance from camera. Best picture out there for determining head size.
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Lol that line is in the middle of Andre's hair,try moving it down 3/4''. And I would not take too much notice of what Terry Todd said ,he said Billy Graham looked 6'4'' in the 1980 WSM when in the line up Geoff Capes looked 3'' taller.

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Terry Todd was a very large man himself and was well above 6'. If he claimed that Graham looked about 6'4", I believe him. Graham always looked around 6'3" in his prime. Who knows, he could have been in the 6'3"-6'4" range; especially in certain footwear. It's just like Andre. I'm sure Todd thought Andre looked like a legit 7' or more in his cowboy boots because he WAS over 7' in his cowboy boots. His head, hands, and feet were also a little bit bigger than Show's.
Iconjj said on 24/Jul/16
The reason Big Shows "looks" so much taller is their faces are built completely different. Where their overall height difference may only be an inch or so, Show can look as much as 3 inches taller due to the fact that Andres neck is more compressed, he hunched more often, and his facial features were totally different. The sheer size of his head/face made up for the difference; Andres eyes level would come right below a prime Show eye level despite a minimal overall diffence. This also explains why Hogan was well below Shows eye level but up to Andres. Footwear plays a factor as well. We all know Show wore the thick boots. When Andre wore cowboy boots Hogan was below his eye level as well.
I'm not implying Andre was taller. Just saying the huge height difference at times was more due to a structural illusion than any real difference.
Boss said on 24/Jul/16
@Dicksock . I believe Andre's head is at least 12.5" and as high as 13". I used some ruler comparison shots done by other posters here and Andre's head comes out 13" in all of them. Even at 12.5" Andre would have a 1' on guys that come up a little past his chin. This is why someone like Wilt would have higher visual height reference points at the legs, hips, chest, shoulders and eyes but Andre's head is almost 3" longer so he makes up for it by the time we reach the top if his head. Andre's posture can add several inches as was shown here by just lifting his head to where you can fully see his neck and straightening his back.
Chaz said on 24/Jul/16
Boss said on 23/Jul/16
Here is Andre's head 24.35% larger than Hogan's. They are face to face and equal distance from camera. Best picture out there for determining head size.
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Lol that line is in the middle of Andre's hair,try moving it down 3/4''. And I would not take too much notice of what Terry Todd said ,he said Billy Graham looked 6'4'' in the 1980 WSM when in the line up Geoff Capes looked 3'' taller.
Mincer said on 24/Jul/16
Rob, who do you think would of been taller in their prime Andre or Big Show?
dicksock said on 24/Jul/16
If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

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I noticed you have ignored the fact that Todd claimed Khali was the tallest of the three. Although Khali is listed as 7'1" on this site, he is the exact same height as Shaq, who is listed as 7' on this site. So according to Todd, Andre was noticeably shorter than a 7'-7'1" man. Once again, this shows that Andre was 6'11"-7'. Funny how that works isn't it?
dicksock said on 23/Jul/16
Boss said on 23/Jul/16
Here is Andre's head 24.35% larger than Hogan's. They are face to face and equal distance from camera. Best picture out there for determining head size.
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Andre's head is clearly larger than Big Show's head.
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I wouldn't say Andre's head is clearly bigger than Show's according to that pic. If anything, the difference is marginal. Their chins pretty much line up, and if you take away Andre's hair, his head may be was .5" longer at best. The pic with Hogan does prove Andre's head was over 12". I would say the line is a little too high in that pic for Andre. It's probably more like 12.75". Again, this is also making the assumption that Hogan's head was 10.5". But, even if it were 10", it still shows Andre's head was in the 12" range. I think Andre's head was about 12.5" and Show's is about 12". I still think that from the bridge of Andre's nose to the top of his head was about 5". The extra size was coming from the lower half of his face.
Boss said on 23/Jul/16
Here is Andre's head 24.35% larger than Hogan's. They are face to face and equal distance from camera. Best picture out there for determining head size.
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Andre's head is clearly larger than Big Show's head.
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Terry Todd who spent time with both Andre, Big Show and sports figures his whole life. Terry Todd was 6'2" himself. Here in direct response to JT he clearly states Andre was bigger in every way possible.

JT, May 29, 2010:
Dr. Todd,

If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

A shoulder measurement of Dwight Howard sounds interesting but would probably be disappointing. With television screens now in the 16:9 format, everyone looks wider than they really are. If you switch the screen to the old 4:3 format, Howard still looks wide but not quite as impressive. His square (rather than sloped) shoulders and narrow waist also add to the illusion of width. At a legit 6’10”, he’s still a remarkable athlete.

I really enjoyed your SI article about Andre the Giant. As Andre has since passed away, can you share some insight on his real height and overall size? After factoring in the afro and cowboy boots that he almost always wore outside the ring, my best guess is that he was actually closer to 6’10” and probably around 425-450 lbs. when you interviewed him. Wight is roughly 7’0” (he was listed as 7’1” as a center for Wichita State) and generally looks at least 2 inches taller when standing next to the same people that Andre did (or when standing next to persons of the same height that Andre did). Thanks!

terry todd, July 12, 2010:
JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for contril as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring.
dicksock said on 23/Jul/16
Boss said on 22/Jul/16
We are talking about Andre's total head length from bottom of his acromegalic chin to the top of his head. Andre's head length is closer to 13" range than 12" range. Andre's head is 24+% larger than Hogan's. Hogan's head was 10.5" range as I thought was agreed upon here which puts Andre's head at 13". They are face to face and equal dIstance from the camera which is the best picture we have to measure their head length. It comes out 13" in alot of peoples comparison pics. Also if you are saying Big Show has a 12" head and we know Andre's head was larger and longer then how is it possible for Andre's head to be only 12" cause it don't add up. At very least 12.5" but more likely 13".

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1. Post your evidence that proves Andre's head was longer than Big Show's.
2. Post the pic of Andre's head being 24+% larger than Hogan's.
Mightyt said on 22/Jul/16
Sure Jt, its so clear your agenda, shaq looks Loads taller than big show And you make Loads of excuses, andre looks tall in Any picture And you make Tons of excuses. Its clear you're a big show fan who hates The idea of andre as Tall or taller than big show, your bias is laughably obvious
Capt. Nobody said on 22/Jul/16
Chaz said on 21/Jul/16
Capt. Nobody,it's about time you and Boss leaned the difference between face length.and head size.if you want anyone to take what you say seriously,head size is measured in circumference,( hat size) or from the nape of the neck to the top of the head,what you keep talking about is face size( with manbible) because that is the only part that can still grow with Acromegaly,once the long bones fuse,because of the fact it's not connected to the face by bone and the gums are soft tisues, so it can carry on with some elongation,even the tongue can get longer and the nose can get wider.

Andre's 12'' face is made up of 2-2.5'' of extra jaw length,from just over the tip of he's nose,to the top of he's head is 6'' because he's forhead is short for he's size, a 5'11.5'' man like Bret Heart in the same foot wear would be under he's chin if he was 7'.and a 6'5'' man with the same footwear would be about .75'' under he's nose.

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So, we've come back to that huh? It doesn't matter, it's an issue with SCALING. From bottom of chin to top of head, if Andre's head is coming out to less than a certain length compared to most shots, it's wrong.
dicksock said on 22/Jul/16
JT said on 21/Jul/16
Click Here At 6’5” tops, Mulligan’s footwear is not big enough to get Andre to 7’0” or even 6’11” barefoot.
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Rulermania is running wild in that pic. But in all seriousness, when I don't look at the rulers and just use common sense. Andre looks about 5" taller in that pic if he stood straight. Mulligan's boots are giving him over an inch of boost. It's funny that there are people who think Andre's cowboy boots gave him 2.5", but Mulligan's boots were only giving him 1". That is just does not make any sense based on my observations. If Mulligan was 6'6.5" max in those boots, and Andre had about 5" on him. Andre was about 6'11.5" tops in his footwear. That would make him about 6'11"-6'11.25" barefoot. It's not that hard to see. This is consistent with what many credible people have said. Andre was about 6'11"-6'11.5" at his tallest. He never really looked taller than that without cowboy boots. I would have to agree at this point that anything above 7' is just pure fantasy land stuff.
Boss said on 22/Jul/16
We are talking about Andre's total head length from bottom of his acromegalic chin to the top of his head. Andre's head length is closer to 13" range than 12" range. Andre's head is 24+% larger than Hogan's. Hogan's head was 10.5" range as I thought was agreed upon here which puts Andre's head at 13". They are face to face and equal dIstance from the camera which is the best picture we have to measure their head length. It comes out 13" in alot of peoples comparison pics. Also if you are saying Big Show has a 12" head and we know Andre's head was larger and longer then how is it possible for Andre's head to be only 12" cause it don't add up. At very least 12.5" but more likely 13".
JT said on 21/Jul/16
Click Here At 6’5” tops, Mulligan’s footwear is not big enough to get Andre to 7’0” or even 6’11” barefoot.
Chaz said on 21/Jul/16
Capt. Nobody,it's about time you and Boss leaned the difference between face length.and head size.if you want anyone to take what you say seriously,head size is measured in circumference,( hat size) or from the nape of the neck to the top of the head,what you keep talking about is face size( with manbible) because that is the only part that can still grow with Acromegaly,once the long bones fuse,because of the fact it's not connected to the face by bone and the gums are soft tisues, so it can carry on with some elongation,even the tongue can get longer and the nose can get wider.

Andre's 12'' face is made up of 2-2.5'' of extra jaw length,from just over the tip of he's nose,to the top of he's head is 6'' because he's forhead is short for he's size, a 5'11.5'' man like Bret Heart in the same foot wear would be under he's chin if he was 7'.and a 6'5'' man with the same footwear would be about .75'' under he's nose.
heightchecker34 said on 20/Jul/16
Andre the Giant for the sake of history and what he meant to the business was 7 ft 0 in (213cm). If he was a strong 6'11, i'm not going to argue it for half an inch. It would have been interesting to compare Andre and Big Show in their respective primes. I believe they would measure within 1/2 inch of each other. I am going to give them both 7 ft listings... sometime even though I believe prime Big Show might have been 7'1. A true giant!
dicksock said on 20/Jul/16
I don't know if this has been posted here, but here is football legend, Joe Theismann, talking about meeting Andre:
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He says he met Shaq, Wilt, and Kareem, and none of them were close to as big as Andre. Cool video.
dicksock said on 20/Jul/16
Captain: I would say Andre's head was probably about 12". I mean it's pretty hard to definitively how long it was, but around 12" seems to be realistic to me. In the Mulligan pic, JT has Andre's head go from about the 5'10.5" mark to just under 6'11". So a little over 12.25". Seems fair to me.
62B said on 20/Jul/16
This match I believe was in 1988 Click Here That happens to be the same year I both got knocked on my butt by Andre at the Milwaukee airport and stood directly behind Jim Duggan at the Alexandria Louisiana airport. Duggan was exactly my height. I was at the time a solid 6'3" and sometimes measured 6'3 1/4". I know some people on this site say Duggan was only 6'2". I just don't agree. If he had a footwear advantage on me it couldn't have been more than a half inch. At the very least in this picture Duggan is 6'2 1/2" and is lucky to be at Andres bottom lip. Duggan's head is tilted up so really he is probably mid chin level. Andre looks to still be 6'11" in 1988 to me.
Capt. Nobody said on 19/Jul/16
Logic said on 18/Jul/16
JT said on 16/Jul/16

Andre’s heels were very small compared to most wrestlers from the 1970s onward but he certainly wasn’t walking around nearly barefoot. Click Here Mulligan maybe has a 0.75” footwear advantage or a little more.
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Here's a side view of Mulligan's white and black wrestling boots that he was wearing with Andre.

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You may be able to use Mulligan's right index finger as a judge on how thick those boot heels were.

My index finger is nearly 1" thick and since Mulligan is a much larger man than me I am going to assume that his index finger is at least 1" thick as well. So, in my opinion Mulligan's boot heel is close to 1.5" thick and possibly a little more. And he is probably getting about 1"-1.25" of height boost over Andre in that photo.

Personally, I would be willing to bet that Blackjack probably stood around 6'5.5" to 6'6" in those particular boots.


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Very interesting find. I think they are a bit thicker than previously thought if those are the same boots.
Capt. Nobody said on 19/Jul/16
dicksock said on 19/Jul/16
Captain Nobody: I would argue that the top of Mulligan's head was a tiny bit above where his forehead ended in that pic. He may have been at the 6'5.9" mark, but he's pretty darn close to 6'6". Regardless, he should not be put above the 6'6.5" mark because his heels were not giving him more than about 1.5", and he was listed at 6'5" as a grown man in football. I don't get why Andre's head length is so important. It's pretty clear that the top half of his head was pretty normal in length. If someone came up the bridge of his nose, he'd be maybe 4-5" taller. Again, even if we boosted Andre to 6'11.5" in the Mulligan pic and added another .5" for account for his posture, you'd still have to take away a bare minimum of .25" to account for his boots. That leaves you with a 6'11.75" max Andre according to that picture. This brings me back to my main point that Andre almost always looked 6'11"-7'.


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It's important for the exact reasons shown in that photo compared to earlier shots next to the ruler: scaling. The loss in height in JT's shots always seems to come at the expense of Andre's head size which has been downgraded to as low as 10.5-11 inches in some shots. I've fairly consistently pointed out in the past. By scaling the ruler down to his head size, he picks up height compared to it. This is why any shot with Andres head next to a ruler that doesn't have his head coming out to that certain length compared to the ruler is incorrect relative to the few things remotely agreed to on this board. It's also why some on the board have gone back on certain measurements, like a 12.5 inch head for Andre, because it drastically alters the results to being unfavorable depending on which side of the argument you are on.
dicksock said on 19/Jul/16
Captain Nobody: I would argue that the top of Mulligan's head was a tiny bit above where his forehead ended in that pic. He may have been at the 6'5.9" mark, but he's pretty darn close to 6'6". Regardless, he should not be put above the 6'6.5" mark because his heels were not giving him more than about 1.5", and he was listed at 6'5" as a grown man in football. I don't get why Andre's head length is so important. It's pretty clear that the top half of his head was pretty normal in length. If someone came up the bridge of his nose, he'd be maybe 4-5" taller. Again, even if we boosted Andre to 6'11.5" in the Mulligan pic and added another .5" for account for his posture, you'd still have to take away a bare minimum of .25" to account for his boots. That leaves you with a 6'11.75" max Andre according to that picture. This brings me back to my main point that Andre almost always looked 6'11"-7'.
Boss said on 19/Jul/16
Andre's head was larger than 12". Andre's head in the best shot we have for measuring head size with Hogan is almost 25% larger. They are face to face and equal distance from the camera. Hogan's head was agreed upon at around 10.5" which makes Andre's head 13" long. Big Show has a 12" head and Andre's is larger and longer than Show's.
Logic said on 18/Jul/16
JT said on 16/Jul/16

Andre’s heels were very small compared to most wrestlers from the 1970s onward but he certainly wasn’t walking around nearly barefoot. Click Here Mulligan maybe has a 0.75” footwear advantage or a little more.
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Here's a side view of Mulligan's white and black wrestling boots that he was wearing with Andre.

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You may be able to use Mulligan's right index finger as a judge on how thick those boot heels were.

My index finger is nearly 1" thick and since Mulligan is a much larger man than me I am going to assume that his index finger is at least 1" thick as well. So, in my opinion Mulligan's boot heel is close to 1.5" thick and possibly a little more. And he is probably getting about 1"-1.25" of height boost over Andre in that photo.

Personally, I would be willing to bet that Blackjack probably stood around 6'5.5" to 6'6" in those particular boots.
Chaz said on 18/Jul/16
184guy said on 17/Jul/16
Mulligan could look similar to Hogan, 6'5 and change
197 maybe be closer . He was taller than his son 6'4.5-6'5 Barry Windham

lol now not only are he's 1-1.25'' heels 1.5-2'',but he's the same height has John Tenta,will the will the rubish ever stop?
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Jul/16
dicksock said on 16/Jul/16
Capt. Nobody: You need to look closer at JT's Mulligan/Andre comparison. He did put Mulligan at 6'6". Let's say he was 6'6.5" in that footwear. That would boost Andre up to just a tiny bit under 6'11.5" in his boots and 6'11.25" max barefoot. Now add another .5" to Andre to make up for his posture. That makes Andre about 6'11.75" max barefoot assuming Mulligan was a full 6'5" and he was getting a 1.5" boost from his footwear. If he was more like 6'4.75" and he was getting 1.25" from his boots, that would bring Andre back down to 6'11.25". These variables are why the most accurate estimate for Andre is just 6'11"-7'.


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Not really, he's a bit under. With his head up like that the very top of his head would be the top of his forehead that is showing and it comes in a little under the 6'6" mark. If his boots are around 1.5 inches then that would put him over that mark easily if he were truly 6'5".

Yeah, regardless, this shot shows Andre at around or over 6'11"-7' if the numbers are correct. See what a difference a 12 inch head makes? Now Andre goes from 6'9" to 6'10" in some of the "ruler" shots to this. The boot heels and head size are still the key factors.
Logic said on 17/Jul/16
Here is a photo of Andre and Blackjack Mulligan that some of you may have not seen before. There is a slight tilt favoring Mulligan. You can't see either man's footwear but Mulligan often wore cowboy boots when he was wearing regular clothing. So, Mulligan may have be wearing his cowboy boots in that photo. I am not sure about Andre's footwear.

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Andre no longer had his afro. So, this photo must have been taken after late 1984.
184guy said on 17/Jul/16
Mulligan could look similar to Hogan, 6'5 and change
197 maybe be closer . He was taller than his son 6'4.5-6'5 Barry Windham
JT said on 16/Jul/16
Mulligan’s boots weren’t close to 2” heels or probably even 1.5". These are Kane’s boots from the late 1990s, which gave a 2 inch boost, maybe a little more. Click Here His boots in recent years are still big but not as large as they used to be. Click Here

Andre’s heels were very small compared to most wrestlers from the 1970s onward but he certainly wasn’t walking around nearly barefoot. Click Here Mulligan maybe has a 0.75” footwear advantage or a little more. Of course, Mulligan’s leaning in more than Andre and also had the 6’4” football listings although I don’t think he was quite that short.
62B said on 16/Jul/16
JT said on 12/Jul/16
With Morley Safer from 60 Minutes in 1985 Click Here

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The pic with Mulligan is the kiss of death for a 7’0” Andre Click Here Mulligan was referred to as 6’5” in 1963 (age 20) when he transferred to a junior college Click Here 6’4” in 1966 (age 23) and 1967 (age 24) when he played in the Texas minor league football Click Here and 6’5” (age 24) when he tried out for the NY Jets Click Here Click Here so 6’5” is the maximum he could have been.

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I agree with what pretty much everyone else noticed in your picture with Blackjack and Andre. That Mulligan had a pretty good footwear advantage, combine that with Mulligan standing tall and Andre leaning down slightly with his arm around Mulligan puts Andre somewhere between 6'11" and 7'0" barefoot. Probably the full 7'0" standing tall.
dicksock said on 16/Jul/16
Capt. Nobody: You need to look closer at JT's Mulligan/Andre comparison. He did put Mulligan at 6'6". Let's say he was 6'6.5" in that footwear. That would boost Andre up to just a tiny bit under 6'11.5" in his boots and 6'11.25" max barefoot. Now add another .5" to Andre to make up for his posture. That makes Andre about 6'11.75" max barefoot assuming Mulligan was a full 6'5" and he was getting a 1.5" boost from his footwear. If he was more like 6'4.75" and he was getting 1.25" from his boots, that would bring Andre back down to 6'11.25". These variables are why the most accurate estimate for Andre is just 6'11"-7'.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 16/Jul/16
Old Mulligan was still an inch taller than his son Barry Windham in same boots.

Peak Barry isn´t under 6´4" flat and I doubt Bob didn´t lose any height after decades of wrestling Click Here

Point is I don´t think Bob was only 6´5"flat peak. He claimed the tallest he ever measured was 6´6" and that he was billed up to 6´9"...

6´5.5" + 1.5" footwear is 6´7" and JT has him at 6´6" flat at the ruler (hair doesn´t count).


If anything, the Andre Mulligan pic is the Kiss of Death for a sub 6´11" peak Andre.
Boss said on 16/Jul/16
So Big Show at age 44 is 6'10" max and Andre was probably around 6'11" range at age 44 at least he looked it with John Tenta in 1991. Big Show may be right when he said he was 7' peak and Andre was around 7'1-2" peak. Andre was defintley taller than Show peak. Andre at age 44 was in a much worse physical state than Big Show.
RP said on 15/Jul/16
Big Show only looks 6'10" now with Shaq...both men in equal footwear.
Boss said on 15/Jul/16
Funny and Wilt at age 40 in dress shoes was taller than a 20's Shaq in his basketball shoes.
Andre with worse posture was taller compared to Wilt than a peak Shaq. Both Andre and Shaq had the footwear advantage and both looked 7' range with 7'1" Wilt.
The stories of Big Show wearing lifts in WCW are probably true and now he wears 1.5" ring boots. If Shaq is now only 7' then Show is only 6'10" range max. Andre's condition was untreated and he had more surgeries, spinal problems, and Andre was bigger and heavier than Show. Andre stopped growing in height at I believe he said at age 25 but his head, hands, feet, bones and organs continued to grow throughout his entire life. I think Andre's height loss would be more than Show's and looks like at least a 2" for Wight in height loss.
Andre in Japan in 1992 still looked over 6'10 with Mane and Baba and Jeff Bearden.
Singer5 said on 15/Jul/16
Thanks Jt; with that picture with Morley Safer, you have convinced me that Andre was 7 Feet tall!
ReturnofG said on 15/Jul/16
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Nice little find of Blackjack Mulligan and Andre the Giant.
Capt. Nobody said on 14/Jul/16
JT said on 12/Jul/16
With Morley Safer from 60 Minutes in 1985 Click Here

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The pic with Mulligan is the kiss of death for a 7’0” Andre Click Here Mulligan was referred to as 6’5” in 1963 (age 20) when he transferred to a junior college Click Here 6’4” in 1966 (age 23) and 1967 (age 24) when he played in the Texas minor league football Click Here and 6’5” (age 24) when he tried out for the NY Jets Click Here Click Here so 6’5” is the maximum he could have been.

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I notice you have Andre, with his head down a bit, at around 6'11" next to the measuring stick? Andre's head length checks out at around 12 inches like agreed so it looks OK there. The result is quite interesting when you take all things into account and use a larger head size for Andre as opposed to 10.5 - 11 inches.

Also I would take a look at the boots Mulligan has on. You're talking at least and inch in the heel, so if he were 6'5", I'd say boost him up about an inch next to the ruler so the same would go for Andre. The ruler you have in the shot shows Mulligans boots roughly at around 1 and 1/2 inch.

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All in all this shot shows Andre right in that 7' range actually. Maybe more with him standing his absolute tallest.
dicksock said on 14/Jul/16
This isn't about Andre, but I just found a new video of Big Show and Shaq. It is really crazy to see how much taller the 7'1" MAX Shaq is than Big Show.
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Pause at 19 seconds in for a really good comparison. Shaq is probably more like 7'0.5" now, and he is clearly about 3" taller than Show. Based on this evidence, there is no way Show is more than 6'10".
dicksock said on 14/Jul/16
JT said on 12/Jul/16
With Morley Safer from 60 Minutes in 1985 Click Here

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The pic with Mulligan is the kiss of death for a 7’0” Andre Click Here Mulligan was referred to as 6’5” in 1963 (age 20) when he transferred to a junior college Click Here 6’4” in 1966 (age 23) and 1967 (age 24) when he played in the Texas minor league football Click Here and 6’5” (age 24) when he tried out for the NY Jets Click Here Click Here so 6’5” is the maximum he could have been.

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Good comparison between Andre and Blackjack. I noticed you accounted for Mulligan's footwear. He may have have been getting a tad more than an inch though. I would argue that Andre could straighten out to about 6'11.25"-6'11.5" in your comparison. That would put him at about 6'11"-6'11.25" barefoot, especially Mulligan's footwear gave him a little more than an inch. Andre appears to be getting almost no boost whatsoever from those boots; like .25". Again, I think Andre with perfect military posture was about 6'11" or maybe a touch over.
Candyman said on 14/Jul/16
"JT said on 12/Jul/16
The pic with Mulligan is the kiss of death for a 7’0” Andre Click Here Mulligan was referred to as 6’5” in 1963 (age 20) when he transferred to a junior college"

Yeah, Mulligan is tall enough to death kiss Andre's height with those 4 inch heel boot lifts he is wearing...just saying.
Heightcrazyred6ft said on 14/Jul/16
JT, please count Mulligans 3-4cm footwearadvantage before Kiss of death ;)
Iconjj said on 13/Jul/16
Here's my opinion on this matter... Andre was taller than 6'9.
I ran into a guy today whilst payin my electric bill and was astounded by the guys size. He didn't have giantism or anything just a big burly guy. What caught my attention was how close to 7' he came to the height measurement thing on the door. (I'm 6' so its accurate) so I asked the guy how tall he was to which he is that replied 6'10. When I informed this guy that the general belief is that Andre was the same height he was VERY quick to reply "oh no i met Andre in the late 70s in knoxville and he had at least an inch or two on me and twice as wide". Take it for what's its worth and yes I asked him about footwear he said it was right after a match. The guys is in his mid 60s and was dead serious real nice fella. Thought I would share.
Boss said on 13/Jul/16
Mulligan has the equivalent of cowboy boots on with Andre and has much better posture than Andre so try again.
Chaz said on 13/Jul/16
Boss stop with all your guess work and fantasy land stories of what so and so said about this and that, 90% of which is BS like most about wrestling, if we take your height loss of 2'' lets use some one much taller and about the same weight's height loss over the day 470lbs Muhammad Alam Channa, measured by Guinness at 7'8'' morning 7'6.75''evening that is 1.25''.height loss,that is why later when Monjane died he was listed as 7'7.33''.and around the same height has Sandy Allen.so you can forget any 2'' loss for a 6'10-7'1'' man.
dicksock said on 13/Jul/16
Boss said on 11/Jul/16
Andre claimed 2.14m in 1971. That doesn't mean he never measured over that in ring gear in 1968-69 since he already had 2.14m billings in Europe around that time. Add 2cm which is roughly 3/4" for footwear and Andre could have measured the 7'1.25" or 2.16m like Jody Hamilton stated in his book and on a message board. French Bernard also stated that Andre was measured at 7'0.5" at age 22 while being diagnosed for his condition.

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Boss, who are you trying to bs? I've been on this site for a very long time. There is no Frenchy Bernard claim. That was a rumor that started probably 8 years ago that you have been called on numerous times. I find it very hard to believe Andre was 7'1.25", even in wrestling boots, in 1968-1969. Not only did he never look that height, but most of his billings were 208cm-211cm. You are also forgetting the comments made by his friend, Adrian Street, who claimed Andre was 6'11" when he wrestled in the UK. Guess when Andre was wrestling in the UK? 1969! Yet you claim it was when he was a teenager. Here is my source:
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His last recorded match in the UK was on October 4, 1969. The official bio on Stampede Wrestling also claims Andre was 6'11" when he came to North America. Even at his healthiest, Andre never really looked more than 6" taller than 6'5" guys like Chuck Wepner, Seiji Sakaguchi, Hulk Hogan, Chris Taylor, and others.
JT said on 12/Jul/16
With Morley Safer from 60 Minutes in 1985 Click Here

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The pic with Mulligan is the kiss of death for a 7’0” Andre Click Here Mulligan was referred to as 6’5” in 1963 (age 20) when he transferred to a junior college Click Here 6’4” in 1966 (age 23) and 1967 (age 24) when he played in the Texas minor league football Click Here and 6’5” (age 24) when he tried out for the NY Jets Click Here Click Here so 6’5” is the maximum he could have been.

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Boss said on 11/Jul/16
Andre claimed 2.14m in 1971. That doesn't mean he never measured over that in ring gear in 1968-69 since he already had 2.14m billings in Europe around that time. Add 2cm which is roughly 3/4" for footwear and Andre could have measured the 7'1.25" or 2.16m like Jody Hamilton stated in his book and on a message board. French Bernard also stated that Andre was measured at 7'0.5" at age 22 while being diagnosed for his condition.
Boss said on 11/Jul/16
Adrain Street claimed Andre was 6'11" as teenager before he had an afro and stated he was probably still growing at the time.

Rob what do you think for Andre's daily height loss for some of the new posters here thanks?

Jody Hamilton was adamant about what he saw and said Kayfabe had died 15 years ago and he wasn't Fabing anyone when asked about it on a message board a few years back. There would be video footage somewhere because it was aired on TV across Canada by BCTV. This is as legit as any other of the Andre height claims and should at least be considered.
Anyone can post youtube videos of bad camera angles and questionable footwear and posture so how about doing some real research.
Andre would claim 2.18m when asked by family members and friends says his newphew Boris.
He was likely 7'1" out of bed and 7' afternoon and around 6'11-11.5" at night peak. He also lost height over his life.
His head was somewhere in the 12.5"-13" range in total length as has been proven here many times. Also his posture and overall enormus size is a huge deal in judging Andre's measured peak height.
That's why he gets the 7 ft listing here.
Chaz said on 11/Jul/16
Boss said on 9/Jul/16
I'm one of the most knowledgeable posters here there Dicksock. You haven't provided anything worth talking about to this site. Andre's posture is the key since he rarely stood straight as to be measured and his enormous head size as well. Rob with all the evidence has Andre at 7' which is an average height like all heights here and would make him 7'1" range out of bed peak and maybe as low as 6'11" range at night. Andre's daily height loss would be 2" range for a man his size. Funny that 7'1.25" is the number gave by Assasin Jody Hamilton who watched Andre being measured on BCTV Allstar Wresting in Vancouver on live TV which aired across Canada and Haystacks Calhoun was weighed at 558 pounds. This was a pre North America tour in 1968-69 and he wrote about it in his book and was adamant about exactly what he saw. You should read the book.

Calhoun being 558lbs is even more ridiculous than Andre being taller than Wilt,with those punny legs and ass,he was lucky if he was Tenta's weight,you need more than a big waist to be that weight,those that do move slow and waddle when they walk,like Giant Haystacks or Yokozuna.
dicksock said on 10/Jul/16
Boss said on 9/Jul/16
I'm one of the most knowledgeable posters here there Dicksock. You haven't provided anything worth talking about to this site. Andre's posture is the key since he rarely stood straight as to be measured and his enormous head size as well. Rob with all the evidence has Andre at 7' which is an average height like all heights here and would make him 7'1" range out of bed peak and maybe as low as 6'11" range at night. Andre's daily height loss would be 2" range for a man his size. Funny that 7'1.25" is the number gave by Assasin Jody Hamilton who watched Andre being measured on BCTV Allstar Wresting in Vancouver on live TV which aired across Canada and Haystacks Calhoun was weighed at 558 pounds. This was a pre North America tour in 1968-69 and he wrote about it in his book and was adamant about exactly what he saw. You should read the book.

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You're one of the most knowledgeable posters? According to who? Yourself? Have fun with that. You can't even be honest with yourself. The fact that you think Andre was 7'1.25 in 1969 before he even stopped growing is a joke. Yeah, real knowledgeable... Andre is on film claiming to be 7'0.25 in 1971, but let me guess; he started shrinking in 1971. Why would Andre have been measured on TV before he was a star in Canada anyway? Is there any proof this "measurement" took place? The fact is Andre looked no more than 6'11" 99% of the time. Just look at him with 6'2" Tony Atlas:
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He looks no more than 9" taller to me. What are the excuses? Height loss at age 36? Footwear disadvantage? Posture issues? His head was 19" long? Also, the idea that he would shrink 2" from morning to night is at best an unrealistic assumption and really more like a total fantasy. Even guys like Adrian Street and Sam Muchnick (former owner of NWA) claim that Andre was 6'11". The obvious truth is that Andre was no more than 7', and was likely closer to 6'11".
Boss said on 9/Jul/16
I'm one of the most knowledgeable posters here there Dicksock. You haven't provided anything worth talking about to this site. Andre's posture is the key since he rarely stood straight as to be measured and his enormous head size as well. Rob with all the evidence has Andre at 7' which is an average height like all heights here and would make him 7'1" range out of bed peak and maybe as low as 6'11" range at night. Andre's daily height loss would be 2" range for a man his size. Funny that 7'1.25" is the number gave by Assasin Jody Hamilton who watched Andre being measured on BCTV Allstar Wresting in Vancouver on live TV which aired across Canada and Haystacks Calhoun was weighed at 558 pounds. This was a pre North America tour in 1968-69 and he wrote about it in his book and was adamant about exactly what he saw. You should read the book.
Boss said on 9/Jul/16
In 1980 is what I'm talking about and Hogan has a good footwear advantage in 1980. Andre looks like his posture was bad in that 1986 video.
Boss said on 8/Jul/16
Well in the book Sex, Lies and Headlocks it says Hogan was given a pair of boots with lifts in them and a 1000 dollar sequence robe by McMahon Sr so they could bill him taller than he was. Sounds pretty specific to me. This would be right around the time of Hogan and Andre's first fued.
dicksock said on 8/Jul/16
Boss said on 6/Jul/16
Hogan is wearing his yellowboots which have at least 1.25" heels and 1980 with Andre. Andre is wearing his .5" heels. That's a 3/4" advantage to Hulk there alone. Andre could gain more height by lifting his head all the way up. Which would make an easy 7" difference in 1980 all factors considered. I don't know how you cant see this but it's probably cause you don't want to see the truth if it makes you wrong.

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Have fun thinking that. You're clearly wrong about this, and anyone with working eyes can see that. You're probably one of the most stubborn posters on here whereas my opinions have changed over the years as I've seen new evidence.
6'2 said on 8/Jul/16
its funny how no one questions wilts height or alis height to make andre shorter but just because ernie ladd wrestled yous think he cant be a legit 6'9 that was he height before he came into wrestling he was 6'9 and thats it and.andre was a few inches taller. andre was measured on numerous occasions by docors someone knows hes legit height the rest of us are all estimators some are terrible judges of height here i honestly think some people think 3" is 1" seriously there was 5-6" between hogan and andre in the 80s and hogan was 6'5.5"' cant judge footwear on every picture with the 2 together anyway it puts andre at 6'11-7ft tall at wrestlemania 3 70s he may have been 1-2" taller
dicksock said on 8/Jul/16
Here is a video of Andre from 1985. During his entrance, you can see him coming out of a door in MSG. Assuming the doorway is around 7', he looked about 7' in his footwear give or take about .5". Once again, this fits the 6'11-7' peak theory.

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Pay close attention right at the start of Andre's entrance.
dicksock said on 7/Jul/16
Here is a great picture of Andre and Hogan's footwear from 1986:
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Where is Hogan's advantage? To me, it looks like both have about a .5" heel.
Chaz said on 6/Jul/16
dicksock said on 4/Jul/16 1980 again. Pay close attention to Hogan's heels. They are about as thin as Andre's.

your right they have the same heels there,and no way has Hogan ever had any 1.5'' heels if they were Kane,OMG,and Visara must of had 2.25'' heels their heels are much thinker,Big Shows heels are only about 1.5''.
Boss said on 6/Jul/16
Hogan is wearing his yellowboots which have at least 1.25" heels and 1980 with Andre. Andre is wearing his .5" heels. That's a 3/4" advantage to Hulk there alone. Andre could gain more height by lifting his head all the way up. Which would make an easy 7" difference in 1980 all factors considered. I don't know how you cant see this but it's probably cause you don't want to see the truth if it makes you wrong.
62B said on 5/Jul/16
Obviously the argument will never end. Based on personal experiences with both a peak Hogan and an out of peak Andre, and looking at everyone's evidence. Peak Andre was between 6'11 and 7'0". He was not the tallest man I have ever seen, and possibly not the heaviest, but close. He was however the over all largest person I have ever seen up close hands down.
dicksock said on 4/Jul/16
Boss said on 2/Jul/16
Here Hogan and Andre from 1980. Andre could gain 1" by lifting his head all the way up and Hogan has military straight posture here. Hogan comes below Andre's eyes and has around 1" footwear advantage over Andre in 1980. A peak Andre would have at least 7" on a peak Hogan.
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No offense, but you are flat out wrong here. I have seen the match that took place after this interview. Andre and Hogan's footwear are very similar (unless you believe Hogan had internal lifts). Regarding the image you posted, Andre is absolutely standing straight. His posture is no worse than Hogan's. Hogan came up to just below the bridge of Andre's nose. That would be about 5.5" from the top. Again, Hogan had minimal, if any footwear or posture advantage in that clip. Also, you pretty much screencapped the one part of that segment where Andre looks the tallest next to Hogan. For most of the interview, Hogan pretty much came up to Andre's eye level or a fraction above or below it. Even if Andre had 6" on Hogan in 1980, it still consistent with what I've been saying this whole time. Andre had 6" on Hogan in January 1986. He absolutely did not look taller in 1980. Really, his posture was better in 1980, and he still actually looked a little shorter next to Hogan than he did in early 1986. This alone, should prove he did not lose any height by then. Andre had his back surgery about one year after January 1986. Depending on the nature of the surgery, he could have lost some height after the operation. I think you need to watch the match from 1980 again. Pay close attention to Hogan's heels. They are about as thin as Andre's.

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Boss said on 4/Jul/16
Hogan in the 1980 pic is under Andre's eyes which is over 6" to top of his . You still have to account for Hogan's footwear advantage. Hogan's boots are minimal 1.25" which is about industry standard and Andre is wearing his thin red .5" soled boots. Andre could gain height by lifting his head up all the way and Hogan has perfect posture. 7" at least all factors considered in the 1980 pic which is the best pic we have of Andre and Hogan for height judging.
Chaz said on 4/Jul/16
Boss said on 1/Jul/16
Hogan always had a footwear advantage in ring gear over Andre. Andre was wrestling for over 20 years by 1986 and his posture wasn't as good as in the 1970's and his body was already breaking down. People here forget he wasn't supposed to live long past 40. Andre was taller in 1980 than in that video. Andre had around 7" on Hogan if you count Hogan's footwear advantage in 1980 and Andre was wearing his .5" soled boots compared to Hogan's 1.25"-1.5" soled boots. Paul Wight by age 40 had lost an inch or more and Andre's condition was much worse than Wight's.

Hogans boots 1.5'' lol.they are 1'' and there is no 7'' differance try 5'' he's up by the eyes he would need to be under the nose to be 7''.
Singer5 said on 3/Jul/16
Right on Boss with your comparison of Andre and Big show. Keep in mind, Show had his acromegaly treated early and Andre never did. If you see Andre's early matches in wwe classics, Andre 's wrestling s boots weren't very thick. Such a massive person would stumble in the ring wearing thick soles.
dicksock said on 3/Jul/16
Boss said on 1/Jul/16
Hogan always had a footwear advantage in ring gear over Andre. Andre was wrestling for over 20 years by 1986 and his posture wasn't as good as in the 1970's and his body was already breaking down. People here forget he wasn't supposed to live long past 40. Andre was taller in 1980 than in that video. Andre had around 7" on Hogan if you count Hogan's footwear advantage in 1980 and Andre was wearing his .5" soled boots compared to Hogan's 1.25"-1.5" soled boots. Paul Wight by age 40 had lost an inch or more and Andre's condition was much worse than Wight's.

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Where are you seeing a 7" difference? Hogan was not getting any 1.5" from his boots in 1980. They had very similar footwear, Hogan looked about 5" shorter throughout 99% of the encounter. I am not seeing this significant footwear advantage you keep mentioning. Again, there is no real proof of Andre losing height by January 1986. Regarding Paul Wight, do you know he lost an inch by 40? No. It is just your guess based on your interpretation of your observations. Regardless, Paul's possible height loss is not proof that Andre lost height by the mid 80s. Again, he never looked taller next to Hogan than he did in that match from January 1986 without cowboy boots.
Boss said on 2/Jul/16
Here Hogan and Andre from 1980. Andre could gain 1" by lifting his head all the way up and Hogan has military straight posture here. Hogan comes below Andre's eyes and has around 1" footwear advantage over Andre in 1980. A peak Andre would have at least 7" on a peak Hogan.
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He looks taller with Hogan in 1980 than 1987 as well.
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Here the between Andre's head down or head up all the way. It's at least 2". Andre's head was massive.
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Boss said on 1/Jul/16
Hogan always had a footwear advantage in ring gear over Andre. Andre was wrestling for over 20 years by 1986 and his posture wasn't as good as in the 1970's and his body was already breaking down. People here forget he wasn't supposed to live long past 40. Andre was taller in 1980 than in that video. Andre had around 7" on Hogan if you count Hogan's footwear advantage in 1980 and Andre was wearing his .5" soled boots compared to Hogan's 1.25"-1.5" soled boots. Paul Wight by age 40 had lost an inch or more and Andre's condition was much worse than Wight's.
mrtguy said on 1/Jul/16
Rob, do you think Ernie Ladd looks 6'9'' facing Andre?? Click Here
Editor Rob: yeah he could look near it there.
6'2 said on 1/Jul/16
andre did loose height after surgery however in 1990 he was still taller than jeff bearden who still says hes 7ft tall giant baba was 6'8 tyler mane was also in this match and wore big boots hes close to 6'9 barefoot so was closse to 6'11 in his boots and andre wore thin soled boots plus was well passed his prime. but if you see jim powers to andre in a hadicap match with tito santana andre appears to be a head and a bit taller than jim powers in 1989 who is around 5'116ft tall but jim powers is dwarfed by giant gonzalez in a 1993 match now i know gonzalez in wrestling boots was probably 7'8 or 9 but jim powers barely comes up to his chest.
dicksock said on 1/Jul/16
Boss said on 30/Jun/16
Hogan has a footwear advantage over Andre. Andre would not be standing his tallest in 1986 after over 20 years of wrestling. Just look at Big Show's height loss.

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Where is the footwear advantage? Also, your math and logic is wrong. Andre may have started wrestling in the mid 60s, but according to him, he didn't finish growing in height until 1970. There is no evidence whatsoever that he shrunk at all by January 1986. None. He looked taller in that match next to Hogan than he did in their first encounter from 1980 or any other time. His height never looked more impressive in the 1970s than it did in the early to mid 80s. If you're going to make the claim that Andre lost height by early 1986, you will need to provide proof. Keep in mind that Andre was only 39 in Jan 1986. Go watch footage of Andre next to guys like Antonio Inoki in the 70s and then go watch them in the mid 80s. There is no proof of height loss by the mid 80s.
Boss said on 30/Jun/16
Hogan has a footwear advantage over Andre. Andre would not be standing his tallest in 1986 after over 20 years of wrestling. Just look at Big Show's height loss.
dicksock said on 28/Jun/16
Here is a match from January, 1986 where Andre looks legit 6" taller than Hogan in equal footwear:
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When watching this, keeping Andre's posture in mind. If he straightened up, it is very obvious he would be about 6" taller. This was before Andre's back surgery, and I think he was still at his peak height. If Hogan was ~6'5.5", Andre was clearly around 6'11.5" here. Bottom line is that Hogan was 6'5"-6'6" and Andre was 6'11"-7". I think that is about as accurate as it will get.
Telamon said on 27/Jun/16
The tallest American Igor Vovkovinskiy (7 feet 8.33 inches) and 6.'11 Wolves center Nikola Pekovic: Click Here So how big is Igor's head? All I am trying to say is that we can't draw conclusion from just 1 picture. Maybe a peak Andre just out of bed was easily 7'1 but who knows? Anyway many people that met him (e.g. Terry Todd, Ernie Ladd) claim or implying that he was 7' or little more in his prime, not just 6'10.
Boss said on 27/Jun/16
Franks friend claimed 6'2" and assume 1" footwear. Andre has .5" footware. Andre would only have to be 9.5" taller to clear 7' and Andre has more than 9.5" on the man in photo.
mrtguy said on 26/Jun/16
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Big Show and Andre have a very large head I think it's bigger than those of Sultan Kosen
Boss said on 26/Jun/16
Well we have wrestler Jody Hamilton of The Assassin's who was adamant that he watched Andre the Giant being measured in 1968-69 on BCTV Allstar wresting program and Haystacks Calhoun was weighed. It was a pre North America tour before he ever wrestled in North America and was televised in Canada. Andre measured 7' 1.25" and Haystacks weighed 558 pounds. We need to find this tape.
berta said on 26/Jun/16
i think he was 6 foot 11 maybe 7 foot is the absolute talest i can see him
tj said on 25/Jun/16
I met Andre in person in 1980. I am 6'8 and Andre was at least 5 inches shorter than me. He was maybe 6'1 at best. He was a tiny man.
dicksock said on 24/Jun/16
Here is an interesting video of Hogan and Studd from 1984. It's strange because Hogan looks taller than him. Maybe Studd forgot his lifts or something?
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6'2 said on 23/Jun/16
if he was billed 7'4 in the 70s he was most likely 7'2 then
The Ben said on 23/Jun/16
Some very cool height comparisons here from the legendary Mamun who used to be a regular. I miss that guy. Some interesting perspectives. Click Here
mrtguy said on 22/Jun/16
Rob, you think a guy like Kevin Garnett would edge out Big Show EASILY today??
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 22/Jun/16
Rob, after some nice comparisons pics around here and Big Shows and Shaqs site, would you agree to Andre at his peak edging peak Big Show 0.5"-1" ?
Editor Rob: even after all 10 years of Andre, I still think at times you could make a 6ft 11, 7ft or even 7ft 1 argument.

I'm still going with around 7ft range peak.
mrtguy said on 22/Jun/16
JT said on 21/Jun/16
Capt.Nobody, Wilt’s head definitely goes up that far in the wig. Click Here Your pic has Wilt’s head at the wrong angle and too low.

Wilt’s head seems small b/c the wig is pulled down so far on his forehead. His head is probably 10.25” to 10.5” long, with the gap from the eyes up every bit as long as Andre’s. Wilt’s eye level is above Andre’s eye level even though he’s looking downward somewhat.
Click Here Given Wilt Andre’s narrower stance and level out his chin and he’s may be more than an inch taller in that pic notwithstanding Andre’s big footwear advantage and slight camera advantage.

The only reason I can think of why Arnold looks so short is b/c the camera level is really high and almost at the level of Andre’s and Wilt’s head or b/c he’s really well under ~ 6’1”.






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Click Here a comparison of Big Show and Wilt next to Conan O'brien looks no different compared with Andre and Wilt
dicksock said on 22/Jun/16
The picture of Andre and Uecker clearly shows Andre to be at least 13" taller. Uecker's listing in baseball is 6'1". Even if you downgrade him to 5'10", Andre comes out to 6'11" minimum. He was more than likely at least 7' in that shot. Is it possible that that interview was done early in the morning or early in the afternoon on the day of Wrestlemania? Andre could have easily been 7' out of bed and 6'11" by match time. Even in 1988. 6'11.5" in the morning and 6'10.5" in the evening is also possible. I highly doubt he lost more than 1" throughout the day. The average man only loses about .5" or so.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 22/Jun/16
JT said on 21/Jun/16
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The only reason I can think of why Arnold looks so short is b/c the camera level is really high and almost at the level of Andre’s and Wilt’s head or b/c he’s really well under ~ 6’1”.


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Arnie imo couldn´t stand any taller than in this pic, Andre with a hunched neck looks at least 12" taller. Arnie was in footwear too, so lets do some math:
Only based on Arnie, not Wilt:

Arnie 6´1" + 0.75" to 1" footwear + 12"gap = 7´1.75"-7´2" Andre in 2.25"-2.5" cowboyboots = Andre with not fully stretched neck at least 6´11.25" + posture-disadvantage = ~ 7´0"

If Andre was 6´10" standing straight at this point: 7´0.25"-7´0.5"max in cowboyboots minus posture = ~6´11.5" in cowboyboots -12" gap=
5´11.5" - Arnies footwear 0.75"-1" = Arnie 5´10.5"-5´10.75" mid eighties.

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Comparing Andre to Wilt:
I agree with the possibility of Wilt looking max ~1cm taller there w/o the wig. But Andre has worse posture regarding his neck so I doubt he would measure shorter in cowboyboots.

Wilt was solid 7´1", ~ 7´2" in footwear, Andre was the same height ~7´2" there standing military straight in 2.25"-2.5" cowboyboots Click Here
Boss said on 22/Jun/16
Andre's posture and head size is why he looks shorter than he actually was. When he stands fully straight he gains inches in height. His head is always a couple to several inches longer than the person he is being compared to. The bottom of his chin is still 12.5-13" to the top of his head.
dicksock said on 22/Jun/16
JT said on 21/Jun/16
Capt.Nobody, Wilt’s head definitely goes up that far in the wig. Click Here Your pic has Wilt’s head at the wrong angle and too low.

Wilt’s head seems small b/c the wig is pulled down so far on his forehead. His head is probably 10.25” to 10.5” long, with the gap from the eyes up every bit as long as Andre’s. Wilt’s eye level is above Andre’s eye level even though he’s looking downward somewhat.
Click Here Given Wilt Andre’s narrower stance and level out his chin and he’s may be more than an inch taller in that pic notwithstanding Andre’s big footwear advantage and slight camera advantage.

The only reason I can think of why Arnold looks so short is b/c the camera level is really high and almost at the level of Andre’s and Wilt’s head or b/c he’s really well under ~ 6’1”.

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JT, you are so full of **** it is laughable. If you honestly believe Wilt's head goes up that high, you are crazy. Also, can't you see that Andre is not standing to his full height either? His head is tilted down somewhat, and he could easily straighten his back out. Face it, Andre was 6'11-6'11.5" barefoot and 7'1-7'1.5" in cowboy boots. What about that is so hard for you to grasp?
Capt. Nobody said on 21/Jun/16
Arch Stanton said on 21/Jun/16
I seen him in the Princes Bride and I really didn't think he looked even close to 7 ft in all honestly. I could see 6 ft 10 but not 7'.

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Depending on his posture his height could vary greatly because a ton of his height is gained from his head size. He could very easily lose more than a couple of inches when hunched over. Cary Elwes even made a comment about Andre being shocked when he stood to his full height, or something to that effect. This is why it's critical to find shots of Andre standing his tallest, not slouched.

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Capt. Nobody said on 21/Jun/16
JT said on 21/Jun/16
Capt.Nobody, Wilt’s head definitely goes up that far in the wig. Click Here Your pic has Wilt’s head at the wrong angle and too low.

Wilt’s head seems small b/c the wig is pulled down so far on his forehead. His head is probably 10.25” to 10.5” long, with the gap from the eyes up every bit as long as Andre’s. Wilt’s eye level is above Andre’s eye level even though he’s looking downward somewhat.
Click Here Given Wilt Andre’s narrower stance and level out his chin and he’s may be more than an inch taller in that pic notwithstanding Andre’s big footwear advantage and slight camera advantage.

The only reason I can think of why Arnold looks so short is b/c the camera level is really high and almost at the level of Andre’s and Wilt’s head or b/c he’s really well under ~ 6’1”.

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My pic, is actually your pic brought in line horizontally. You can see that the original head you used doesn't match up with Wilt in the wig. However, the bald head at the level I brought it to scales up perfectly vertically and horizontally.

The shot is a higher angle shot so one individual being slightly in back of, or in front of won't do to much in the way increasing height. If anything the person farther back would have an advantage vertically, much like an in ring shot from the main camera at a WWF match. The color photo is interesting because it clearly shows Andre and Wilt are about as close to in line as possible so any increase or decrease height wise is not happening. Andre being wider in the body still has no effect because their shoulders show they are still relative in terms of height on either side.
Boss said on 21/Jun/16
Andre's head was defintley longer than Wilt's from the eyes up and is a couple or more inches longer in total than Wilt's. Wilt's head looks like a peanut next to Andre's.
andre said on 21/Jun/16
at his tallest he was 6ft9.5 barefoot
Arch Stanton said on 21/Jun/16
I seen him in the Princes Bride and I really didn't think he looked even close to 7 ft in all honestly. I could see 6 ft 10 but not 7'.
JT said on 21/Jun/16
Capt.Nobody, Wilt’s head definitely goes up that far in the wig. Click Here Your pic has Wilt’s head at the wrong angle and too low.

Wilt’s head seems small b/c the wig is pulled down so far on his forehead. His head is probably 10.25” to 10.5” long, with the gap from the eyes up every bit as long as Andre’s. Wilt’s eye level is above Andre’s eye level even though he’s looking downward somewhat.
Click Here Given Wilt Andre’s narrower stance and level out his chin and he’s may be more than an inch taller in that pic notwithstanding Andre’s big footwear advantage and slight camera advantage.

The only reason I can think of why Arnold looks so short is b/c the camera level is really high and almost at the level of Andre’s and Wilt’s head or b/c he’s really well under ~ 6’1”.
mrtguy said on 21/Jun/16
Big Show : Click Here
Wilt : Click Here

This is just a comparison between the two next to Conan O'Brien
mrtguy said on 21/Jun/16
Rob, who looks taller Big Show or Chamberlain in your eyes??
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Editor Rob: Chamberlain visually can look taller.
Boss said on 21/Jun/16
So Franks friend actually claims 6'2" so how tall would that make Andre? Nice work Captain on the comparisons. They are much more accurate than anything JT ever posted here. Wilt's head was way smaller than Andre's.
Gretz said on 21/Jun/16
I used to post here 10 years ago and we had a vote to get Andre listed at 7 foot even. And he even looks 7 foot in that wilt pic from 1984.They are nearly the same height yet the amazing thing is Andre is built so much different than Wilt(he is built like a guy 5'6")while Wilt is all legs.It makes Andre look much more impressive and giant like next to these guys that are mearly tall.
Gretz said on 21/Jun/16
I used to post here 10 years ago and we had a vote to get Andre listed at 7 foot even. And he even looks 7 foot in that wilt pic from 1984.They are nearly the same height yet the amazing thing is Andre is built so much different than Wilt(he is built like a guy 5'6")while Wilt is all legs.It makes Andre look much more impressive and giant like next to these guys that are mearly tall.
Frank said on 20/Jun/16
Thanks Rob for posting the Picture My friend says hes 6ft 2 but i believe 6ft 1 is more accurate He did say Andre over all wast the Biggest guy he ever seen !!!
Danimal (176-178cm) said on 20/Jun/16
6'2 said on 18/Jun/16
andre died at 6'10 and lost a considerable amount of height compared to a 1974 andre id say 3-4"' id say he was 430lbs in the late 70s and by the 90s the 540-560 mark

Imo a peak Andre was around 7'0" give or take .5" in either direction. Like Big Show, he had lost a considerable amount of height (starting in 1981 or so and steadily increasing until his death a dozen years later). I have no idea what he was down to, but a probably guess was somewhere between 6'9" and 6'10".
Capt. Nobody said on 20/Jun/16
Boss said on 20/Jun/16
The top of Andre's head is taller than Wilt's and Andre would gain more height than Wilt by lifting his head which was way bigger than Wilt's.
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I think it's time for some Shaq/Show/Wilt/Andre comparisons.
Capt. Nobody said on 20/Jun/16
JT said on 19/Jun/16
Here’s the color photo of the black and white where Andre was standing tallest Click Here

Here’s about where wilt’s head is under the wig Click Here
Click Here Wilt’s still taller despite the slight camera disadvantage, big footwear disadvantage and his looking down a bit.


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Sweet find on the color shot! But, you have Wilt with short hair coming up to the top of the wig again. There is no way that Wilts head was that close to Andre's proportionally. And if so, how long was Wilt Chamberlains head in your opinion then?

Once again, here is the earlier fix using your own shot illustrating how in order for Wilt's head to that high you have to ignore relative scale.

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The taller head doesn't match from the top of the nose to the bottom lip.
Capt. Nobody said on 20/Jun/16
Chaz said on 19/Jun/16
the 7 foot Andre boys can dream on,that Letterman Show proves to have a 7' Andre you need a 7'3.5-4'' Kiel not only are they next to the same host but the same desk,look how much more height Kiel has over the desk? and even worse Andre is in much much thicker heels and still 3'' shorter lol lets see Boss and Capt talk there way out of that,

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I was prepared to talk more about the boot heel, but I guess the subject has changed huh?

Anyway, we'll go ahead and talk about Kiel and Andre then. I see someone posted the full interview of Kiel on Letterman. Nice find JT.

I think there are much better images to compare and contrast from the Letterman appearances of both however. The results are interesting to say the least. This first shot was hard to find a proper comparison for but what the heck. It's still interesting.


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Now, for the most intriguing find. On the next two shots the "NO SMOKING" sign and the metal part attached to the wall underneath it are the reference point for scaling.


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This next one shows that they match up right in line.


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I also checked to make sure the sign and the metal part underneath it scaled up in both long shots when both Andre and Kiel made it up onto the stage and they did, so they appear to have been in the same place for both interviews.

Now, with that said, I can say that these interviews are very hard to make an exact judgement on depending on the shot because the camera angles are slightly different. On the shot used earlier by JT, since it was a close shot any difference in the angle, or distance, would be huge when using an object in the background as a reference point.

Also there were almost no shots of Kiel or Andre standing their tallest without leaning or something equally as obstructive. The shot of both Andre and Kiel coming in next to the "NO SMOKING" sign is as close to a proper comparison as it gets though because they are at pretty much the same exact position relative to the wall to their left. Andre's camera Angle is a little higher, but that should be a negative for him because that should make the sign appear higher relative to Andre than it would if it were a flatter shot. However, the shot is from a fair distance so distortion would be more limited than on a close shot.

The other challenge is that the Andre interview is such low quality and grainy that making an exact estimate would be difficult. Still, this clearly shows Andre in cowboy boots is right around Kiel in these comparisons.

So.... back to the boot heel anyone?
Slon said on 20/Jun/16
Rob, you believe prime Big Show was close or as tall as Chamberlain??
Editor Rob: I have my doubts
Iconjj said on 20/Jun/16
Be interesting to put this photo of 6'1 guy with the pic of Chris from Andres facebook page that he had took with Big Show...
Boss said on 20/Jun/16
The top of Andre's head is taller than Wilt's and Andre would gain more height than Wilt by lifting his head which was way bigger than Wilt's.
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@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 20/Jun/16
Editor Rob said on 20/Jun/16
Frank sent this photo of a 6ft 1 friend with andre in the 70's:
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Great Pic,
If this guy is legit 6´1", he would be 6´2" in footwear and Andre in his thin soled wrestling shoes gains only few mm.
the guy barely reaches Andres mouth, so flat or near 7ft is what Andre looks there
Editor Rob said on 20/Jun/16
Frank sent this photo of a 6ft 1 friend with andre in the 70's:
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Boss said on 19/Jun/16
I post a pic of Andrés boots being measured and people here still deny it. It's a joke. Everything that I post I back up and I have more knowledge on Andre than anyone here. Anyone who actually believes the stuff that come from some posters here over the overwhelming evidence of a 7' Andre peak then go ahead. Rob raised his height to 7' because of everything that was brought to this site. Why is Andre not listed as 6'10" peak if you know all because you don't know anything but what you read in your Meltzer newsletter you pay for every week. Add the money you spent on his books and now you can't even have an unbiased opinion on Andre or you were ripped off your money by what you thought was inside information LOL.
JT said on 19/Jun/16
Here’s the color photo of the black and white where Andre was standing tallest Click Here

Here’s about where wilt’s head is under the wig Click Here
Click Here Wilt’s still taller despite the slight camera disadvantage, big footwear disadvantage and his looking down a bit.
Boss said on 19/Jun/16
You are welcome @ Me.
Boss said on 19/Jun/16
Here Andre has 6" on Hogan and Andre could still gain height by lifting his head up. Hogan has a 1" footwear advantage over Andre here. Hogan gets a 6'6" peak listing here and even a 6'5" Hogan with his 1" footwear advantage would equal a 7' Andre and considering Andre could still stand taller.
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Andre will lose 2" in height just by have his massive head tilted down. So if you can't see his neck then he would be 2" taller when you can see his full neck.
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Andre's height loss was apparent and has been stated by many. He lost at least 2" or more through his condition, surgeries and posture. At no time did he ever appear under 6'10".
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Andre's head was least 12.5" long and comes out 13" range in all these comparisons.
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A peak Andre woke up at 7'1" range and went to bed 6'11" range which is an average of 7'. Andre could stand at least 1" or more taller here by lifting his head and closing his legs. His posture wasn't good by this point of his career.
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Chaz said on 19/Jun/16
the 7 foot Andre boys can dream on,that Letterman Show proves to have a 7' Andre you need a 7'3.5-4'' Kiel not only are they next to the same host but the same desk,look how much more height Kiel has over the desk? and even worse Andre is in much much thicker heels and still 3'' shorter lol lets see Boss and Capt talk there way out of that,
Me said on 18/Jun/16
Boss said on 17/Jun/16
Here a prime Andre and Wilt comparison. Andre always looks 7' range with Wilt Chamberlain.


Andre has a head size on 6'1.5" who is 6'2"-6'2.5" in his boots and has better posture than Andre. If Andre straightens up he would be taller again. So Andre has 12-13" on Arnold with worse posture.



Andre has 2" boots and Arnold around 1" boots. So even by going with 2.5" boots vs Arnold's 1" then Andre would have 1.5" advantage. Then assuming his head is only 12" it's actually more but let's go with 12". That would mean with worse posture Andre is still 10.5" taller barefoot than 6'1.5" Arnold so 7' for Andre. Wilt was measured 7'1 daytime by a doctor with real measuring tools rather than the 7'0.5" night measurement which was done with 2 measuring tapes and Rob has stated would probably not be as accurate. Which would make Wilt 1" taller than Andre all factors considered in 1984 which was past Andre's peak at least posture wise.

What more can someone say. This is perfect even with Boss using a smaller size head for Andre he still comes out at 7' barefoot. Thanks Boss.
Boss said on 18/Jun/16
Here Ernie Ladd states he was measured at 6'9 3/4" young.
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Ernie Ladd shoot interview on Andre.
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Meltzer also said Ladd was 6'9 1/2" and that Ladd and Andre were the same height which Ladd shoots down right away.
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Ladd was every bit of 6'9" peak.
6'2 said on 18/Jun/16
andre died at 6'10 and lost a considerable amount of height compared to a 1974 andre id say 3-4"' id say he was 430lbs in the late 70s and by the 90s the 540-560 mark
JT said on 18/Jun/16
Click Here Tenta's leaning in but Baba should be at least an inch taller.

Andre’s appearance on Letterman was within a few months of the photos with Wilt. He’s wearing dark brown boots in both so they may be the same footwear.
The heel under the pivot point is really big – easily 2.5” or more considering how large the overall boot is Click Here If he knew he’d be around Wilt there’s no reason why he wouldn’t choose these boots
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Jun/16
Chaz said on 15/Jun/16
Capt. Nobody said on 14/Jun/16

The boots he had on with Wilt were fairly modest. In fact, the angle upward is almost identical to the 2 inch heel boots Boss posted.

tinypic.com/r/2j4vjv8/9

The red line follows the underside of the boot in the Wilt shot.

Stop talking rubish look how thick the front sole is? are you trying to say a size 18 hand made boot only has a 2'' heel? it would be out of proportion, look at the woman holding the other one's she could get 4 fingers along the heel that is 3'' at least..

He's in at least 2'5'' heels side on and nera the camara and still 1/2'' shorter than the 7.5'' Wilt.


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You tell me, there's a freaking picture of it being measured but lets just forget that too huh? haha.

JT said that Andre wore thicker boots than the ones being measured, when matched up the lift of either boot in roughly the same position comes out almost identical so it's unlikely the boots with Wilt would give much more height than the ones measured.

As for the measurement of the boots, they look around the 2 inch mark next to the tape and at the mid point of the boot, where you get your height boost from, they look no more than 2 inches from the angle shown. Most likely a little less as Boss suggested. And you don't get height from the thickness of the front of a boot so it's all relative. As you can see the toes in the Wilt shot are up a bit, which has no effect on height.

The original link didn't work so here's another try:

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Boss said on 17/Jun/16
Here a prime Andre and Wilt comparison. Andre always looks 7' range with Wilt Chamberlain.
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Andre has a head size on 6'1.5" who is 6'2"-6'2.5" in his boots and has better posture than Andre. If Andre straightens up he would be taller again. So Andre has 12-13" on Arnold with worse posture.
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Andre has 2" boots and Arnold around 1" boots. So even by going with 2.5" boots vs Arnold's 1" then Andre would have 1.5" advantage. Then assuming his head is only 12" it's actually more but let's go with 12". That would mean with worse posture Andre is still 10.5" taller barefoot than 6'1.5" Arnold so 7' for Andre. Wilt was measured 7'1 daytime by a doctor with real measuring tools rather than the 7'0.5" night measurement which was done with 2 measuring tapes and Rob has stated would probably not be as accurate. Which would make Wilt 1" taller than Andre all factors considered in 1984 which was past Andre's peak at least posture wise.
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Kunoichi said on 17/Jun/16
Baba became a professional baseball player in 1955. His height was 192cm at that time.
Baba had surgery of the brain tumor removed in 1957.Baba was listed his height at 200cm in 1959,he is the tallest still as a Japanese professional baseball player.
When Baba was once the expedition to the United States, he had said Ernie Ladd's eye level was taller than Baba's eye level.
Baba has claimed his regit height at 209cm from 202cm,.
Touluca said on 16/Jun/16
I used to meet Andre after shows here in LA back in the late 70s/early 80s. He was 6ft 10 in.

Definitely not 7 foot tall
ohmike said on 16/Jun/16
How high is the 3 rd rope of a wwe/wwf Ring?
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 16/Jun/16
Dub said on 14/Jun/16
Tyler Mane looks 6ft 7 inch max with Ali Baba.
Giant Baba was listed 200cm in pro-baseball so his true height was nowhere near 6ft 9 in
Ernie Ladd was described as standing 6ft 6 in tall by Ben Davidson
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Mane was to close to peak Nash to be only 6´7" 20+years ago.
Ben Davidson said "Ladd was 6´6" or so", not an exact estimation. Ladd looked solid 6´7" pretty often.

Baba at his peak was way taller than 200cm. Second tallest guy is Anton Geesink who´s normally listed at 6´6" and noway under 6´5" flat legit.
Baba had 3 inches on him.
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Baba had 3inches on also 6´5"range peak Hogan
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Baba was about 6´8.5"peak and up to an inch shorter in 1992 when facing Tyler Mane
Boss said on 16/Jun/16
Giant Baba was 6'8.5" peak. He got the 6'6" listing in baseball at age 17 so he was still growing. Ernie Ladd was taller then 6'8" Ben Davidson so maybe he was jealous of Ladd being taller .
Boss said on 16/Jun/16
It's 2 " plain and simple . They are measured right before our eyes. Just because his boots are much bigger looking doesn't mean the heel is any taller. They do look alot the boots he was wearing with Wilt.
Capt. Nobody said on 16/Jun/16
Dub said on 14/Jun/16
Tyler Mane looks 6ft 7 inch max with Ali Baba.
Giant Baba was listed 200cm in pro-baseball so his true height was nowhere near 6ft 9 in
Ernie Ladd was described as standing 6ft 6 in tall by Ben Davidson

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How tall is Raja Lion, real name Muhammad Riaz? thetallestman.com has him listed at 7'3". There is no way Baba is 8 inches or more shorter than him.



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Chaz said on 15/Jun/16
Capt. Nobody said on 14/Jun/16

The boots he had on with Wilt were fairly modest. In fact, the angle upward is almost identical to the 2 inch heel boots Boss posted.

tinypic.com/r/2j4vjv8/9

The red line follows the underside of the boot in the Wilt shot.

Stop talking rubish look how thick the front sole is? are you trying to say a size 18 hand made boot only has a 2'' heel? it would be out of proportion, look at the woman holding the other one's she could get 4 fingers along the heel that is 3'' at least..

He's in at least 2'5'' heels side on and nera the camara and still 1/2'' shorter than the 7.5'' Wilt.
Capt. Nobody said on 14/Jun/16
JT said on 13/Jun/16
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Boss said on 7/Jun/16
Andre has a 2" heel on his cowboy boots which give him a 1.8" height boost. So 1 3/4" for Andre in cowboy boots.

Assuming those are Andre’s boots, those aren’t the ones he wore with Wilt or almost everywhere else from the late 1970s forward. His usual boots had a larger heel Click Here Click Here

Bill Russell would have measured up well with Andre when he was not in his cowboy boots Click Here


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The boots he had on with Wilt were fairly modest. In fact, the angle upward is almost identical to the 2 inch heel boots Boss posted.

tinypic.com/r/2j4vjv8/9

The red line follows the underside of the boot in the Wilt shot.
Dub said on 14/Jun/16
Tyler Mane looks 6ft 7 inch max with Ali Baba.
Giant Baba was listed 200cm in pro-baseball so his true height was nowhere near 6ft 9 in
Ernie Ladd was described as standing 6ft 6 in tall by Ben Davidson
Chaz said on 14/Jun/16
JT said on 13/Jun/16
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Boss said on 7/Jun/16
Andre has a 2" heel on his cowboy boots which give him a 1.8" height boost. So 1 3/4" for Andre in cowboy boots.

Assuming those are Andre’s boots, those aren’t the ones he wore with Wilt or almost everywhere else from the late 1970s forward. His usual boots had a larger heel Click Here Click Here


2 '' lol look at the size of the heel on those brown and tan boots,she has got 2 fingers on the heels and still room for 2 more fingers

and I have been saying it for years Andre was never within 3'' of kiel's height at any age,anyone that thinks so needs help in the head,
JT said on 13/Jun/16
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Boss said on 7/Jun/16
Andre has a 2" heel on his cowboy boots which give him a 1.8" height boost. So 1 3/4" for Andre in cowboy boots.

Assuming those are Andre’s boots, those aren’t the ones he wore with Wilt or almost everywhere else from the late 1970s forward. His usual boots had a larger heel Click Here Click Here

Bill Russell would have measured up well with Andre when he was not in his cowboy boots Click Here
Sam said on 13/Jun/16
Rewatched The Princess Bride for the first time in years and noticed how hunched he could look, even not standing out as much as you'd expect from a giant in crowd scenes between his spine and terrain. His size really stands out when he straightens up next to another actor between his massive hands and head, which appears nearly twice that of Cary Elwes.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 10/Jun/16
Boss said on 9/Jun/16
Here are Andre's boot heels being measured by an actual measuring tape. Looks like a 2" heel to me which give a 1.8" height boost.
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To me it looks like 2.5" at the back of the heel, wich results in more than 2" boost, with normal insoles 2.25".
I´m pretty sure the 2,18m Andre told his family members was his height in this big cowboyboots.
straightahead said on 10/Jun/16
@me said on 8/Jun/16
Giant Baba is COMPARABLE in height to Bill Russell. I never said they were the exact same height. Tyler Mane 6'9" an old bent knee Andre had 2.5-3" on. Baba who was truly somewhere between 6'8.5" & 6'9" was basically the same in height as Mane when they wrestled, Russell has listings of 6'9" & 10". When you see Andre in the ring with 6'9" people like Mane/Baba/Ladd the height difference is obvious . There is no way Andre could possibly have a PEAK height under 7' when he had a few inches on known 6'9" people when he was at the end of his life all bent knee and broken down.

Baba was more like 6'7 and Tyler Mane 6'7 1/2 - 6'8, but i agree with you - Andre had atleast 2 inches on Mane kinda late in his career, and thats with Mane having a foowear advantage, so Andre was a solid 6'10 at that time. Peak of 7ft is fully possible.
Boss said on 9/Jun/16
Here are Andre's boot heels being measured by an actual measuring tape. Looks like a 2" heel to me which give a 1.8" height boost.
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Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 9/Jun/16
I imagine in some wrestling boots he could get up to 7ft3 range.
Chaz said on 9/Jun/16
Boss said on 7/Jun/16
Andre has a 2" heel on his cowboy boots which give him a 1.8" height boost. So 1 3/4" for Andre in cowboy boots.

they are at least 2'5'' my size 12 have 2.25'' heel and that is without the inside I am allmost 6'1'' in them 5'10.5'' barefoot,I only got them because my ex was 5'9'' 6' in heels.and she did not like looking taller than me.
Capt. Nobody said on 9/Jun/16
Speaking of "shrinkage", man that sounds a bit wrong, but anyway, here's a shot that illustrates the massive difference with Andre's height depending on his posture.


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Andre could easily lose a few inches when hunched. This is why finding as many shots of him standing as upright as possible is critical to finding anything reliable.



Andre with his head up has a good bit more than a head size on Uecker


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@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 9/Jun/16
Rob, wich range do you think is right (right out of bed to late evening) for peak Andre?
I assume a 1.75" shrinkage


a) 7´0.75" - 6´11"
b) 7´0.25"- 6´10.5"
c) 6´11.5"-6´9.75"
d) 7´1.75"-7´0"
Editor Rob: between a or d
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 9/Jun/16
Boss said on 7/Jun/16
Andre has a 2" heel on his cowboy boots which give him a 1.8" height boost. So 1 3/4" for Andre in cowboy boots.


Naaah, I have cowboyboots that give 1 3/4, Andres heel is clearly bigger. I don´t think they give under 2.25" but no more than 2.5".
me said on 8/Jun/16
Giant Baba is COMPARABLE in height to Bill Russell. I never said they were the exact same height. Tyler Mane 6'9" an old bent knee Andre had 2.5-3" on. Baba who was truly somewhere between 6'8.5" & 6'9" was basically the same in height as Mane when they wrestled, Russell has listings of 6'9" & 10". When you see Andre in the ring with 6'9" people like Mane/Baba/Ladd the height difference is obvious . There is no way Andre could possibly have a PEAK height under 7' when he had a few inches on known 6'9" people when he was at the end of his life all bent knee and broken down.
Boss said on 7/Jun/16
Andre has a 2" heel on his cowboy boots which give him a 1.8" height boost. So 1 3/4" for Andre in cowboy boots.
Chaz said on 7/Jun/16
me said on 6/Jun/16
Claiming Andre as 6'10" means that he would be comparable height to Bill Russell. Now that is rubbish. Look at Russell/Wilt and Andre/Wilt photos it is impossible for Andre to be 6'10" or 11" peak height. Even at the end of his career with Giant Baba, who is comparable in height with Russell, Andre has a few inches on him. Just like Big Show Andre will be remembered for his girth/overall size more than his height.

Lol so Giant Baba was nere 6'10'' now
Danimal (176-178cm) said on 6/Jun/16
Boss said on 26/May/16
@ JT what have you disproven here. Look at the top of the page it says Andre the Giant's height is 7ft 0in 213cm and with proof was raised to this number despite your constant Andre bashing.

He's been on here daily for over 11 years. It's not going to change. It's an obsession. Just move on as I've done.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 6/Jun/16
JT said on 4/Jun/16
Andre’s in cowboy boots in that wedding pic with Hogan...

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Whatever Andre had on his feet, Hogans footwear wasn´t much less.
Its still the same gap as here with Hogan in thicker wrestlingboots
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It would be very nice to have clear footwear pics of Hogans wedding because it´s not possible that Andre had a noticable footwear advantage there:


Rare pretty much same angle pics:
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Andre for sure was in his 6cm Big boots next to Wilt and Arnie, if Andre had the same big heel at the wedding, Hogan comes out legit 6´6.25" and Inoki at 6´3".

The only reasonable explanation is that Andre was in comparable footwear to Hogan and Inoki Click Here

Inoki must have been very close to 6´2" or he was in lifts because Hogan struggles to look much more than 3" taller.

I say in the wedding pic it looks like

Andre 2,11m
Hogan 1,96m
Inoki 1,88m
me said on 6/Jun/16
Claiming Andre as 6'10" means that he would be comparable height to Bill Russell. Now that is rubbish. Look at Russell/Wilt and Andre/Wilt photos it is impossible for Andre to be 6'10" or 11" peak height. Even at the end of his career with Giant Baba, who is comparable in height with Russell, Andre has a few inches on him. Just like Big Show Andre will be remembered for his girth/overall size more than his height.
Capt. Nobody said on 5/Jun/16
JT said on 4/Jun/16


Capt.Nobody, there isn’t one pic of Andre and Wilt together where both have their heads up (except reportedly in the photo seen by poster Frank when both were in street clothes and Wilt appeared several inches taller) Regardless Wilt is TALLER than Andre in every pic except the outdoor one where Andre is significantly closer to the camera. There also isn’t a good full body pic of Shaq and Wilt either, not even this one Click Here

You really think Andre w/o custom made cowboy boots was within three inches of Shaq, let alone the same height or only one inch shorter? Impossible
Click Here Hogan in cowboy boots
Click Here Hogan in basketball shoes, Shaq in sandals
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The shot I just posted that you did which I brought into scale shows that Andre was slightly taller with both in more of a relaxed posture. Yes, Andre had a heel advantage. But how much? My question is how much lift are they giving him in your opinion?

Another viable question would be who exactly would benefit more from having their head up. I think we've already seen some evidence by both Icon and Boss that might tilt towards Andre winning that battle.

If Big Show was within 3 inches of Shaq, then Andre was as well. Hey, I told you I saw an interview where Shaq described meeting Andre in an airport, maybe he met Kiel instead? Maybe Andre was wearing his cowboy boots? But then again, they'd have to give him what, like 3+ inches of lift to be anywhere close right?

Wilt is taller than Shaq, Andre was technically taller than Wilt in 2 of the shots. So.... how much lift? I personally have no idea, I'm just interested to see what everyone thinks because that's also one of the only things that can potentially be verified with some degree of certainty.
Capt. Nobody said on 5/Jun/16
straightahead said on 3/Jun/16
@Boss said on 27/May/16
Here is OMG and John Tenta. Tenta has camera advantage as it's a low camera angle and he is slightly closer which will make Tenta appear slightly taller than he actually is. OMG is 6'6" range peak whether it's from boots or lifts or genentics this is what he appears in his prime.
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Omg was always several inches taller than 6'3" King Kong Bundy and a couple inches taller than 6'4" Slick peak and 6'4" Boss Man Click Here
. There are pics now where he is shorter than Slick so he lost height. Ottoman was probably wearing lifts or tip toeing it with OMG peak but they may be close to same height now. Ottoman looked taller than Edge who is 6'4" range in a recent episode of Edge and Christian's show so it's hard to peg his actual height.
Captain is very knowledgeable and he is right in this argument. OMG at 6'3" peak is ridiculous.
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Except Bossman was nothing more than 6'3 if even that, i would go 6'2 1/2 for him (he didnt have a full 1 inch on Sting, and he was edged out by Rock). Do you have a link to that episode of Edge and Christian where Ottman looked taller? thats maybe worth looking closer at, how much taller. Because Edge isnt more than 6'2 range today, since he looked to be a solid 3 inch shorter than Swagger and Barrett.

So now we should accept 6'6 peak for OMG "even if he ha lifts"? seriously? truth is, we have to face the fact that our childhood heroes maybe werent as tall we wanted them to be, yes 6'3 for OMG does sounds ridiulous iknow but its not impossible, after all Tenta has been listed as short as 6'4 and Ottman has been listed 6'3 (but yes, they looks taller)
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Yes, you can accept the hypothetical lifts if he's being used mostly as a measure of comparison, as he is on the ANDRE board. Lifts are always a questionable part of the discussion because unless he comes out and directly says anything about the possibility then it's all just assumption anyway.

OMG is still around, maybe someone should try and get a hold of him and ask.
Iconjj said on 5/Jun/16
ANDRE its nice to know you have all the answers, what would we do without you and Meltzer to guide us in our lives. Meltzer also gave us the 6'11.5 measurement as well. I don't think Andre was under 6'10. Wwf may have inflated his height by as much as 6 inches which explains the 6'10-7'4 and later the 7'4 .5 and 7'5 billings (6'10.5 and 6'11 respectively)
Iconjj said on 5/Jun/16
ANDRE its nice to know you have all the answers, what would we do without you and Meltzer to guide us in our lives. Meltzer also gave us the 6'11.5 measurement as well. I don't think Andre was under 6'10. Wwf may have inflated his heoght by as
andre said on 4/Jun/16
Hogan was 6ft4.5 barefoot peak and andre was 6ft9.7 peak barefoot height

time to change andre the giant height there is now way he ever was 7ft
JT said on 4/Jun/16
Andre’s in cowboy boots in that wedding pic with Hogan Click Here and closer to the camera in the pic from Japan Click Here
Click Here Inoki’s maybe 6’1” and Rob has Van Dyke at 6’.5” and Fallon at 5’11.5”.

Capt.Nobody, there isn’t one pic of Andre and Wilt together where both have their heads up (except reportedly in the photo seen by poster Frank when both were in street clothes and Wilt appeared several inches taller) Regardless Wilt is TALLER than Andre in every pic except the outdoor one where Andre is significantly closer to the camera. There also isn’t a good full body pic of Shaq and Wilt either, not even this one Click Here

You really think Andre w/o custom made cowboy boots was within three inches of Shaq, let alone the same height or only one inch shorter? Impossible
Click Here Hogan in cowboy boots
Click Here Hogan in basketball shoes, Shaq in sandals
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Chaz said on 4/Jun/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 3/Jun/16
Assuming peak Hogan and Barkley were the same height 6´5"-6´5.5"

Please stop with the rubish,look how far Hogan and Inoki come up Andre's face? for Andre to be 7'' Hogan should be under the Nose,and Inoki just over the chin,unless Hogan was around 6'7.5'' and Inoki around 6'4'' you can forget anything over 6'10''.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 3/Jun/16
Assuming peak Hogan and Barkley were the same height 6´5"-6´5.5"

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Andre comes out closer to Shaq than Big Show did today. Shaq looks about 1.5" taller,
so Andre was 6´11.25"-6´11.5" there wich makes him over 7ft measuring right out of bed.

Andre had no footwear advantage over Hogan there,
because with Andre in cowboyboots there was a much bigger gap Click Here
straightahead said on 3/Jun/16
@Boss said on 27/May/16
Here is OMG and John Tenta. Tenta has camera advantage as it's a low camera angle and he is slightly closer which will make Tenta appear slightly taller than he actually is. OMG is 6'6" range peak whether it's from boots or lifts or genentics this is what he appears in his prime.
Click Here
Omg was always several inches taller than 6'3" King Kong Bundy and a couple inches taller than 6'4" Slick peak and 6'4" Boss Man Click Here
. There are pics now where he is shorter than Slick so he lost height. Ottoman was probably wearing lifts or tip toeing it with OMG peak but they may be close to same height now. Ottoman looked taller than Edge who is 6'4" range in a recent episode of Edge and Christian's show so it's hard to peg his actual height.
Captain is very knowledgeable and he is right in this argument. OMG at 6'3" peak is ridiculous.
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Except Bossman was nothing more than 6'3 if even that, i would go 6'2 1/2 for him (he didnt have a full 1 inch on Sting, and he was edged out by Rock). Do you have a link to that episode of Edge and Christian where Ottman looked taller? thats maybe worth looking closer at, how much taller. Because Edge isnt more than 6'2 range today, since he looked to be a solid 3 inch shorter than Swagger and Barrett.

So now we should accept 6'6 peak for OMG "even if he ha lifts"? seriously? truth is, we have to face the fact that our childhood heroes maybe werent as tall we wanted them to be, yes 6'3 for OMG does sounds ridiulous iknow but its not impossible, after all Tenta has been listed as short as 6'4 and Ottman has been listed 6'3 (but yes, they looks taller)
Boss said on 3/Jun/16
Truth is Andre stacked up to Wilt better than Shaq did. Andre had around 3/4" - 1" footware advantage on Wilt who had heels on his boots as well and was wearing a big wig which makes his head look bigger than it actually is. Andre had worse posture than Wilt and was past his peak. Shaq has around .5" footware advantage over an older Wilt but looks an inch shorter than Wilt. Big Show is 2" shorter than Shaq.
Chaz said on 3/Jun/16
I think with all this new evidence.of around a 10'' hand and 12'' face the best height would be morning 6'11'' and an evening 6'10'',so he's avarage height should be listed as 6'10.5'' .
Chaz said on 3/Jun/16
Click Here that is were you measure from that first thick crease,that is just at the palm,some hands have 3-4 on the wrist.not them.
Capt. Nobody said on 2/Jun/16
Iconjj said on 1/Jun/16
I'm no expert on hand creases Chaz but the way I measured it looked to me like would make his head 12" or slighly over....absolutely not 13...I don't think Andre ever hit 7'. I think it was between 6'10-6.11.

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It's possible. Although a defined head length goes a long way to determining as close to for sure as it gets. Here is the thing though, if Andre was never 7 feet tall, neither was Big Show. Obviously he's most likely not these days from the looks of his last staredown with Shaq, but peak height is still the question.
Capt. Nobody said on 2/Jun/16
JT said on 31/May/16


Boss said on 26/May/16
@ JT what have you disproven here. Look at the top of the page it says Andre the Giant's height is 7ft 0in 213cm and with proof was raised to this number despite your constant Andre bashing.

of course, and Rob had Leonid Stadnyk at 8'5" even though he was almost a foot shorter and Charles Barkley at 6'4.75"
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OK, once again, it all goes back to the evidence we have. Or it should at least. Walk it back down the line then I will ask you a question I hope you decide to answer. Here it goes.


Here are Barkley and Shaq:


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Here are Wilt and Shaq:


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Now Wilt and Andre:


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Now, how much lift are Andre's boots in the shot with Wilt giving him again?
Khalid said on 2/Jun/16
Click Here courtesy of iconjj
Capt. Nobody said on 2/Jun/16
JT said on 31/May/16
Iconjj said on 27/May/16
The hands are 10", maybe a smidgen over. CHRIS sent me a pic with a ruler measurement from the magazine and did a hand comparison and it matches up to the print he did a comparison with in the photo below. Not 11, not 9.75, ten. Ten. TEN.

It would be helpful to post the pic so we can see where the “starting point” is on the wrist. Regardless, Andre’s head length still comes out less than 12 inches assuming his hand is 10 inches long. Click Here It’s roughly a normal 4.5” or so from the eyes up and an abnormally long 7 inches from the eyes down to the bottom of the chin.

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Likewise, you are assuming that Andre's hand is perfectly in line with his face in that shot. Very unlikely. Here's a shot I did earlier that shows how just a slight bit of movement of the fingers can change the length of the hand significantly.

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You'd be better off finding out how long Genes head is.

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Boss said on 2/Jun/16
How can Andre's head be 11.5" and JT has Big Show's head at 12" when we know Andre's head was longer and larger. That would make Andre's head only 1" longer than Hogan's which was not the case more like 2.5" longer than Hulk. Andre's head was in the 13" range.
Boss said on 2/Jun/16
Charles Barkley is a rare case and he usually comes out looking 6'6-7" range. He is 6'8" in his mugshot which are taken barefoot but take off an inch for being in front and he is 6'7".
Iconjj said on 1/Jun/16
I'm no expert on hand creases Chaz but the way I measured it looked to me like would make his head 12" or slighly over....absolutely not 13...I don't think Andre ever hit 7'. I think it was between 6'10-6.11.
Chaz said on 1/Jun/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 31/May/16

It also fits with the 24" cast, 10" or a tad taller - definitly not 27cm, but if they did a generous measurement, near 27cm isn´t out of this world,
just a definition question where to start with the measurement at the wrist-hand-crossover.

I go with 10" so far.

Look at the palm of your hand? now bend it at the wrist forward see the creases? it's the first full one nerest the palm you measure from, to the tip of the longest finger,get it wrong you are adding .5-1'' more.
JT said on 31/May/16
Iconjj said on 27/May/16
The hands are 10", maybe a smidgen over. CHRIS sent me a pic with a ruler measurement from the magazine and did a hand comparison and it matches up to the print he did a comparison with in the photo below. Not 11, not 9.75, ten. Ten. TEN.

It would be helpful to post the pic so we can see where the “starting point” is on the wrist. Regardless, Andre’s head length still comes out less than 12 inches assuming his hand is 10 inches long. Click Here It’s roughly a normal 4.5” or so from the eyes up and an abnormally long 7 inches from the eyes down to the bottom of the chin.

Boss said on 26/May/16
@ JT what have you disproven here. Look at the top of the page it says Andre the Giant's height is 7ft 0in 213cm and with proof was raised to this number despite your constant Andre bashing.

of course, and Rob had Leonid Stadnyk at 8'5" even though he was almost a foot shorter and Charles Barkley at 6'4.75"
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@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 31/May/16
Iconjj said on 27/May/16
The hands are 10", maybe a smidgen over. CHRIS sent me a pic with a ruler measurement from the magazine and did a hand comparison and it matches up to the print he did a comparison with in the photo below. Not 11, not 9.75, ten. Ten. TEN.



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It also fits with the 24" cast, 10" or a tad taller - definitly not 27cm, but if they did a generous measurement, near 27cm isn´t out of this world,
just a definition question where to start with the measurement at the wrist-hand-crossover.

I go with 10" so far
Boss said on 30/May/16
A past peak Andre barefoot with a peak Bret Hart in sneakers. Hart has better posture than Andre. With Nash Bret is no more than 6' on sneakers.
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Here Red takes out Nash's footware advantage.
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Boss said on 30/May/16
The museum curator where Andre's hand molds are on display said he measured then at 10.5" which is exactly the same as the 27cm measurement from the Japan Magazine.
Chaz said on 30/May/16
conjj said on 27/May/16
The hands are 10", maybe a smidgen over. CHRIS sent me a pic with a ruler measurement from the magazine and did a hand comparison and it matches up to the print he did a comparison with in the photo below. Not 11, not 9.75, ten. Ten. TEN.

Show us the photo because for it to count you have to measure from the 3rd crease palm up on the wrist,right next to the palm not the other two that are on the wrist,about .5'' down.
Singer5 said on 30/May/16
Perhaps the hands measured close to 10 inches with that Japanese wrestling mag and what year was that? keep in mind, people with acromegaly
Can have excessive growth of the hands, feet and head. Especially if the condition was never treated as was with Andre.
Furthermore, I would like to see a relevant measurement closer to the end of his life, maybe around 1992 if possible.
Iconjj said on 27/May/16
The hands are 10", maybe a smidgen over. CHRIS sent me a pic with a ruler measurement from the magazine and did a hand comparison and it matches up to the print he did a comparison with in the photo below. Not 11, not 9.75, ten. Ten. TEN.
Boss said on 27/May/16
Here Andre and Big Show.
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Boss said on 27/May/16
Here is OMG and John Tenta. Tenta has camera advantage as it's a low camera angle and he is slightly closer which will make Tenta appear slightly taller than he actually is. OMG is 6'6" range peak whether it's from boots or lifts or genentics this is what he appears in his prime.
Click Here
Omg was always several inches taller than 6'3" King Kong Bundy and a couple inches taller than 6'4" Slick peak and 6'4" Boss Man Click Here
. There are pics now where he is shorter than Slick so he lost height. Ottoman was probably wearing lifts or tip toeing it with OMG peak but they may be close to same height now. Ottoman looked taller than Edge who is 6'4" range in a recent episode of Edge and Christian's show so it's hard to peg his actual height.
Captain is very knowledgeable and he is right in this argument. OMG at 6'3" peak is ridiculous.
Capt. Nobody said on 27/May/16
straightahead said on 26/May/16
@Capt. Nobody said on 17/May/16
Neither are basketball players, so what? Doesn't bother me in the least but what does bother me is someone shaping up their own numbers and reducing everything else around with a few exceptions in order to meet some preconceived criteria.

Andre has 7'4" listings. So...

What you are saying is OMG was somewhere in the 6'2" range. Interesting statement. He may have been for all I know, I never measured the guy, but if he starts ticking down, fine, so does everyone else. Not just Andre.


Dont you dare put this on me, i only told you what the pictures showed. You on the other hand has a alot of explanation to do if you believe OMG was as tall as 6'6. So where do YOU put him, Tenta, and Ottman?

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Put this one you? You were the first person that I have ever seen put OMG in that range. You said it. How could someone NOT put it on you? Like I said, if the Gang wore lifts than maybe he was 6'2", I don't know. If he wore those same lifts next to Tenta, Show, and Andre in the end it really doesn't matter I guess. All things are equal in the comparison then.

I don't like to make many generalized numerical height estimates because I just don't know, and each situation in a given photo or video is different. My time on this board has mostly been about pointing out flaws in scale comparison, which is the only thing that can be proven to any real extent half the time.

Around these parts it seems to be consensus that Tenta's listing in Japan at around 6'6" or a little less seems about right. I'm fine with that at this point. The match with Tenta and OMG had Gang at least at the same height and IMO a little bit taller. Remember though, this is about PEAK standing height. I'm sure OMG and Tenta's standing height given normal posture is probably less considering it is with pretty much every human being. OMG, much like Andre, seemed to always wrestle in crouched state so that's another issue.

Personally, I think while in their regular gear Tenta is a bit shorter than the Gang, and Gang is a bit shorter than Studd, but they are all around the same basic area for the most part. From watching Giant Haystacks in WCW I think he's also around the same area as those guys. I think Ottman is one step below all of those guys by maybe as much as couple of inches.
straightahead said on 26/May/16
@Capt. Nobody said on 17/May/16
Neither are basketball players, so what? Doesn't bother me in the least but what does bother me is someone shaping up their own numbers and reducing everything else around with a few exceptions in order to meet some preconceived criteria.

Andre has 7'4" listings. So...

What you are saying is OMG was somewhere in the 6'2" range. Interesting statement. He may have been for all I know, I never measured the guy, but if he starts ticking down, fine, so does everyone else. Not just Andre.


Dont you dare put this on me, i only told you what the pictures showed. You on the other hand has a alot of explanation to do if you believe OMG was as tall as 6'6. So where do YOU put him, Tenta, and Ottman?
Boss said on 26/May/16
@ JT what have you disproven here. Look at the top of the page it says Andre the Giant's height is 7ft 0in 213cm and with proof was raised to this number despite your constant Andre bashing.
Chaz said on 26/May/16
Boss said on 25/May/16
The real picture of Andre holding a beer can. Jt's version where he trying to make Andre's hands look as small as possible is a joke. Big Show is holding the can differently and using his thumb which is not nearly as impressive as Andre holding the beer can.

Boss stop living in a dream would,Andre's hands were very thick and wide but to say they were 27cm is out of the question,that is only 1.5cm shorter than Sultan Kosen's hands,go look at he's hands ? they are much longer,they would be way over the lengh of that Magazine for a start,

And even if Andre's face was 13'' that would make him only 6'11'', that would make no differance to all the 6'5'' guys over he's eyes because has we have seen the extra lengh on a acromegalics face is in the jaw,Andre's face from the top of the head to just over the tip of he's nose is only 6''.he's forhead is short if anything,

For a 7'+ Andre you need a 6'8'' Hogan a 6'9'' Studd and a 6'10'' Baba and Maine and a 6'11''+ Nash Andre'
s hands were about 9.75'', face about 11.75'', and boots about a US size 18.

But one thing we can say is Andre's ring size was huge much bigger than most giants I have seen.
JT said on 25/May/16
Boss said on 23/May/16
Here is JT's Maurice Tillet head photo comparison from a few years ago when he was arguing Tillet had a larger head than Andre. Now when Andre's head is proven larger he knocks 2" off of Tillet's head from his original comparison.
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No, I was probably disproving someone’s claim (likely yours) about the length of TIllet’s head b/c we know for certain that the distance from the bottom of his chin to the root of his nose was only 7”, which means that his head was only around 11” long. Andre's was a little longer but not by much as his head length is relatively normal from the eyes up, which is evident in the pic with the slicked back hair. Click Here Thanks for proving my point again though.
Boss said on 25/May/16
The real picture of Andre holding a beer can. Jt's version where he trying to make Andre's hands look as small as possible is a joke. Big Show is holding the can differently and using his thumb which is not nearly as impressive as Andre holding the beer can.
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andre said on 25/May/16
this man was never taller then 6ft9.8 barefoot
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/May/16
Most of his peers insist he was 7ft4-5
Capt. Nobody said on 24/May/16
Boss said on 23/May/16
Here is JT's Maurice Tillet head photo comparison from a few years ago when he was arguing Tillet had a larger head than Andre. Now when Andre's head is proven larger he knocks 2" off of Tillet's head from his original comparison.
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It's certainly been a theme around these parts of a great while.
Capt. Nobody said on 24/May/16
RoelC said on 22/May/16


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Here's that pic of Andre promoting his t-shirt. I've put his hand next to his face. If his hand is 10 inches, then his head certainly isn't 13 inches. His hand is pressed against his chest, so I doubt it will be much closer to the camera either.

People here love casts, so here's a cast of Andre's hand & elbow. This time we have some measurements to go along with. 24 inches from brass fingertip to elbow.
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I'm sure some people here can insert a 24-inch ruler next to the cast, so we can see how long the cast of Andre's hand is.

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The hand is slightly skewed towards the camera though, and as I showed on the Mean Gene hand/head comparison where Andre wrapped his hand around Genes face that can change things dramatically in a game of inches if not centimeters.
Leo said on 24/May/16
He has a very short body for a guy of 7 feet tall. I don't see his neck, has short legs and short arms for his height.
7'4 or 7'5 is funny and ridiculous.
JT said on 23/May/16
The Molson’s can is supposedly 4 5/8” high and the Pepsi can 4 4/5” but close enough
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Boss said on 23/May/16
Andre's hands were 10.5" range. Here at 27cm or 10.63".
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Just to give an idea as it's pretty awesome.
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Here from Terry Todd who is someone that has spent time with both Big Show and Andre. This is in direct response to JT who was asking who was bigger.

JT, May 29, 2010:
Dr. Todd,

If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

A shoulder measurement of Dwight Howard sounds interesting but would probably be disappointing. With television screens now in the 16:9 format, everyone looks wider than they really are. If you switch the screen to the old 4:3 format, Howard still looks wide but not quite as impressive. His square (rather than sloped) shoulders and narrow waist also add to the illusion of width. At a legit 6’10”, he’s still a remarkable athlete.

I really enjoyed your SI article about Andre the Giant. As Andre has since passed away, can you share some insight on his real height and overall size? After factoring in the afro and cowboy boots that he almost always wore outside the ring, my best guess is that he was actually closer to 6’10” and probably around 425-450 lbs. when you interviewed him. Wight is roughly 7’0” (he was listed as 7’1” as a center for Wichita State) and generally looks at least 2 inches taller when standing next to the same people that Andre did (or when standing next to persons of the same height that Andre did). Thanks!

terry todd, July 12, 2010:
JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for contril as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring.

Andre's head was longer and larger than Big Show's head.
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JT said on 23/May/16
RoelC said on 22/May/16
….Chris, who edits the Andre the Giant facebook page, met Big Show awhile ago. He also compared the handsize of both men and Andre's hands were quite a bit bigger.
Big Show's hands Click Here
Andre's hands Click Here
It's always a question though if the handprints are truly lifesize. Chris said Big Show's handprint looked smaller than his actual hand (especially in width). If the prints are accurate though, Andre's hands were quite a bit bigger.

You can see how exaggerated that middle handprint display with Andre/Chris really is Click Here and this assumes the display length is correct.

Click Here Close to 10” long here although a body mold does not always equal the size of the underlying body part.

Big Show’s hand is about the length of poster Chris’ head and his hand is behind Chris and father from the camera. Click Here
Based on the Japanese magazine, Andre’s hand measured roughly 9.75”. Given the photo with Chris, Big Show’s hand could be as long as Andre’s. If it is, it’s b/c he has a longer palm since his fingers look stubbier than Andre’s.
Boss said on 23/May/16
Here is JT's Maurice Tillet head photo comparison from a few years ago when he was arguing Tillet had a larger head than Andre. Now when Andre's head is proven larger he knocks 2" off of Tillet's head from his original comparison.
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Hogans head looks longer than JT's. Here Red has him at 10.5" and Andre at 13". This is the best case scenario for comparison as they are equal distance from camera and face to face. Click Here

Here with 6'1" Victor Rivera on the end. Just by lifting his head up he gains 2" or more inches in height. Victor Rivera goes from the bottom of Andre's lip to the bottom of Andre's chin just by Andre raising his head up straight. They are standing the exact same position in both shots. People here used to use the color shot and say Andre isn't losing much height with his posture in the photo and then I came across the B/W other photo and that was the last anyone in the sub 7' camp wanted to talk about that.
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mrtguy said on 23/May/16
@Roel C, Big Show real handprint Click Here
JT said on 23/May/16
This is one of the few full body pics when Andre has his hair slicked back Click Here Without the afro effect, his head does not even look that large for his body although it is.

Click Here a 6’10” Andre (plus ~ 0.5” footwear) ends up with a little over a 12” long head and a 7’0” Andre with around a 12.5” long head with a smile/mouth open. Subtract ~ 0.5” for the head length for both with a closed mouth.

Hogan’s head looks about the same length as mine (~ 10 ¼” mouth closed), even if you assume he’s 6’6”, which he never was Click Here

Big Show’s looks almost 13 inches long with a smile/mouth open assuming he’s down to 6’11” and with ~ 1.25” footwear
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RoelC said on 22/May/16
mrtguy said on 20/May/16
Rob, by all means you believe Big Show's hand, head and feet are equal to Andre's??

The WWE has Andre's & Big Show's handsize on display. They claim they're both actual size.
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Chris, who edits the Andre the Giant facebook page, met Big Show awhile ago. He also compared the handsize of both men and Andre's hands were quite a bit bigger.
Big Show's hands Click Here
Andre's hands Click Here
It's always a question though if the handprints are truly lifesize. Chris said Big Show's handprint looked smaller than his actual hand (especially in width). If the prints are accurate though, Andre's hands were quite a bit bigger.
RoelC said on 22/May/16
Iconjj said on 21/May/16
I did some figgerin' earlier since I had a rare chance to get on the computer and going on the 10" measurement for Andres hand (thanks to Chris) using the picture of Andre promoting his t shirt and using some reverse engineering I got Andre's head at 12" - 12.25...
Now granted it was a quick measure and I didn't save it but I might have more time here shortly to do a better comparison.

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Here's that pic of Andre promoting his t-shirt. I've put his hand next to his face. If his hand is 10 inches, then his head certainly isn't 13 inches. His hand is pressed against his chest, so I doubt it will be much closer to the camera either.

People here love casts, so here's a cast of Andre's hand & elbow. This time we have some measurements to go along with. 24 inches from brass fingertip to elbow.
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I'm sure some people here can insert a 24-inch ruler next to the cast, so we can see how long the cast of Andre's hand is.
RoelC said on 22/May/16
Boss said on 13/May/16
@Roel . The owner of the mask said he performed the same measurements as Harvard and the mask came out .5" longer because they used calibers which dig in to the bone and he is measuring a hard mold with a t-square. Even if you take the 1" off as the red lines are over 1/8" thick we are still there is still 5.5" to the top of his head and shave a fraction of an inch off that and his head is still over 12" and you yourself made the comparison that Andre had the larger head putting Andre's head in the 13" range and that's what this is about. So quit trying to squirm your way out of it. You are wrong plain and simple. Rob has seen all the evidence brought here over the years. Answer the question why if you think you know everything is your Andre estimate not at the top of the page here and mine is? Andre the Giant's height is 7ft 0in (213cm). That's all the proof I need.

You keep claiming the measurements from Harvard closely match the measurements performed on the deathmask, but as usual provide zero proof.

We have one picture where the owner of the mask measures the deathmask, and that picture tells a different story! It certainly wouldn’t result into a mere 0.5” difference. We already have an inch difference between the mask and the actual head when we compare the root of the nose to the bottom of the chin. And that’s only 60% of his head, we’re comparing. On the total head we would have a 1.67” difference. Which would again put Tillet’s head in the 11.5-12” range. I’m not wrong about those Harvard measurements. It’s an irrefutable fact that his face (from the chin to the root of the nose) measured 179mm. That would result in a 11.5-12” total head length. Certainly not 13 inches!

A few weeks ago you were trying to claim that Harvard measured his head at 13 inches, and when I called you out on it, you quickly changed the story to the owner of the deathmask being the one who measured his head at 13 inches. And yet you’re claiming I’m the one who tries to squirm my way out of it.

As for that comparison I made of Andre & Tillet. That was done on pure speculation, because there are no pictures of Andre & Tillet next to each other, nor next to the same person for that matter. I made that comparison based on Tillet’s Harvard measurements (I put his head at 11.5 inches) and Andre’s head at 12 inches (based on how big I thought Andre’s head was). Seeing as both estimations were made seperately from one another, if Tillet's head turned out to be bigger than expected, it would not automatically result into a bigger head for Andre aswell.
Iconjj said on 21/May/16
I did some figgerin' earlier since I had a rare chance to get on the computer and going on the 10" measurement for Andres hand (thanks to Chris) using the picture of Andre promoting his t shirt and using some reverse engineering I got Andre's head at 12" - 12.25...
Now granted it was a quick measure and I didn't save it but I might have more time here shortly to do a better comparison.
Chaz said on 21/May/16
me said on 21/May/16
These pics comparing Andre/Tillet just reinforces Andre at just over 7'. Look at Andre/Backlund pic to prove once again that Andre is a full foot taller than Backlund. His head was enormous.

yes Enormouse 11,75'' face hands 9.75'', but at 6' Backlund should be under he's chin not by the mouth that is were a 6'2'5 '' ish man should be ,Hogan should be under he's nose not over he's eyes,he's 2-2.5'' too short to be 7'
Boss said on 21/May/16
Andre's head was 13". Red did a comparison with Hulk and Hogan has around 10.5" head putting Andre's at 13.05". Andre's head was at least 1" longer than Tillet's in another comparison which would put his head in the 13" range again. I used several comparisons that were done by others and 13" every time. Hard to argue with fact.
175 cm said on 21/May/16
He looks like a stretched Big G
me said on 21/May/16
These pics comparing Andre/Tillet just reinforces Andre at just over 7'. Look at Andre/Backlund pic to prove once again that Andre is a full foot taller than Backlund. His head was enormous.
RP said on 20/May/16
Andre looks almost crippled in that 1992 movie (trading moms) ...he never stands up straight to ever be able to judge his height properly.....and no way for sure to tell by door frames that we have no clue of it's exact height. And in the bus scene ...Andre is hunched over by 3" to 4" inches ...he looks hunched over by 3" inches in just about all the scenes. Peak Andre 7'0"-ish...1992 broken down Andre 6'10-1/2"...hunched over by 3" inches or so, would give you the impression of 6'7" to 6'8" on certain camera angles though. His health & back look horrible in this film. Poor fella looked in non-stop pain.
andre said on 20/May/16
You say big show is strong but not one of the strongest and andre the giant rob even tough big show is more agile andre the giant was stronger
could andre the giant be the strongest man in the world back in 80 ?
Boss said on 20/May/16
Here the 7.05" is a face measurement it does not go the the bottom of his acromegalic chin.
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Here is actual total facial measurement from root to bottom of chin is 18cm or 7.087" as shown in the pic. This would put your math off on total head size.
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Maurice's total head length would be at least 12" range and if Andre's head was 1" longer than Tillet's head. Andre's head is in the 13" range.
mrtguy said on 20/May/16
Rob, by all means you believe Big Show's hand, head and feet are equal to Andre's??
Editor Rob: they could be comparable
Capt. Nobody said on 19/May/16
JT said on 19/May/16
Click Here Assuming a 7’0” and 6'10" Andre. Tillet was reportedly 5'8.5". The low camera angle and Andre's height will make his head look a little smaller than it really is

Click Here IIRC Rob’s head measures 9.5”. I added ~ ¼” since the chin drops a bit when you smile. TIllet’s head length is around 11 inches, right where it belongs based on the Harvard measurement. My head’s around 10 ¼” long and a little longer with a smile. Click Here but once again Tillet’s head isn’t much more than 11 inches long notwithstanding the low camera angle making my head again look a little shorter than it really is given my height. Tillet definitely had a huge head but it looked especially unusual given his relatively short stature.

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So, now Tillets head is around 11 inches? RoelC?

How big do you think Hogans is? I do remember there being some sort of consensus on that as well.
RoelC said on 19/May/16
6'2 said on 19/May/16
happy 70th boss. just 1 question about above where is the 6'7 age 17 come from wasnt he meant to be over 6ft at 12 and 240lbs and at 16 like 6'10 and 7ft at 19 his brother said in the larger than life documentary he really grew at age 16 so just was hoping someone could shed light on the suppossedly 6'7 at age 17.and plz no one reply to the poster andre on here

I've seen several different heights being claimed for him at various different ages. I've also seen 6'1" at age 12 and 6'4" at age 16. That seems somewhat believable with his brother's statement in the documentary, in which he claimed Andre really started to grow at the age of 16. Before that he was big, but nothing unusual.
I've seen taller heights being claimed for him, such as 6'8" at age 14. That somewhat contradicts Jacques Roussimoff's story. His brothers and sisters are all of average height, and so were his parents. I don't believe the story about him having a 7'8" grandfather. You hear stories like that for nearly every giant.

6'1" at age 12 and 6'4" at age 16 is big, but nothing unusual. The growth spurts he got after that, were probably the ones that made his family realize his height wasn't normal.

It would be helpful if there were some pics of Andre during his childhood. The Larger Than Life shows a few pictures of Andre when he was really young, but they're not suitable to estimate his height.
6'2 said on 19/May/16
happy 70th boss. just 1 question about above where is the 6'7 age 17 come from wasnt he meant to be over 6ft at 12 and 240lbs and at 16 like 6'10 and 7ft at 19 his brother said in the larger than life documentary he really grew at age 16 so just was hoping someone could shed light on the suppossedly 6'7 at age 17.and plz no one reply to the poster andre on here
JT said on 19/May/16
Click Here Assuming a 7’0” and 6'10" Andre. Tillet was reportedly 5'8.5". The low camera angle and Andre's height will make his head look a little smaller than it really is

Click Here IIRC Rob’s head measures 9.5”. I added ~ ¼” since the chin drops a bit when you smile. TIllet’s head length is around 11 inches, right where it belongs based on the Harvard measurement. My head’s around 10 ¼” long and a little longer with a smile. Click Here but once again Tillet’s head isn’t much more than 11 inches long notwithstanding the low camera angle making my head again look a little shorter than it really is given my height. Tillet definitely had a huge head but it looked especially unusual given his relatively short stature.
andre said on 17/May/16
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Rob watch this clip of andre in 1992 he looks like 6ft7

tell me after looking at him in 1992 will you downgrate his height because in this video he looks just 6ft7
Capt. Nobody said on 17/May/16
straightahead said on 17/May/16
@Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
I can read, especially when math seems to skew all over the place depending on the time of day.

OK, here is what you said originally:

"claiming 6'3 for OMG was idiotic since he is shorter than the 6'3 Ottman"

So, you say Tenta is 1 inch taller than OMG, then how tall is Tenta again? I seem to recall you spouting the official measurement on Tenta. Yet Gangs not reaching 6'3"?

Tenta may have been taller barefoot, I can't say for sure. Same with Ottman. Just like with Andre, until there is absolute arithmetic involved nobody can truly know, but I know what it looks like when numbers appear to fluctuate around an opinion, and not an answer, and that seems to happen a lot. A half inch here, another inch there.

And if the Gang is wearing boots that give him a lift, it doesn't matter as long he's just a point of comparison in which he has the same basic height boost. There are still plenty of people that say Studd and Hogan wore lifts too, so it's possible. Looking at his back and normal stance these days it's also plausible he might be well under his full or former standing height when standing comfortably.


If Ottman was 6'3 then OMG was a little shorter, not absolutely sure since we couldnt see their footwear but he was taller in both of the pics. Ottman has been listed 6'3 and i admit he looks taller, but again why would he be listed 6'3 if he was taller? Tenta could had been everything from 6'4 to 6'5 3/4 (yes he has had 6'4 listings as well as 6'5) and i would put him at 6'5.

Maybe its time to wake up and realize that the wrestlers werent as big we used to believe?

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Neither are basketball players, so what? Doesn't bother me in the least but what does bother me is someone shaping up their own numbers and reducing everything else around with a few exceptions in order to meet some preconceived criteria.

Andre has 7'4" listings. So...

What you are saying is OMG was somewhere in the 6'2" range. Interesting statement. He may have been for all I know, I never measured the guy, but if he starts ticking down, fine, so does everyone else. Not just Andre.
Capt. Nobody said on 17/May/16
RoelC said on 17/May/16
Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
Or maybe not.
Click Here
The picture of the mold, and the measurement shot scale almost to perfection. The angles on the shots are a little different but if the mold were way off it would be almost impossible to bring it into this kind of proportion.
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Uhm, wasn’t that exactly the point I was trying to make there?

Yes the deathmask has the same proportions as Tillet’s real head. Which makes it nearly impossible for Tillet’s real head to have been measured at 13 inches, when they took his measurements at Harvard.

Looking at the death mask, the distance from the root of his nose to the bottom of his chin accounts for roughly 60% of his head.
Now apply this 60% to the Harvard measurement of 7.05” and you come out at 11.75” for Tillet’s total head length. If Tillet's head would come out
at 13 inches, the root of his nose to the bottom of his chin only accounts for roughly 54% of his total head length. You would get a completely different shaped head!

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I was agreeing about the head shape of Tillet, but if the bust is an actual bust of his head, then it's hard to argue against. I guess we'll never truly know.

But that shouldn't be the focus IMO, because this would bring into question the notion that Tillets head was indeed larger than Andre's. That should be the main point because that could substantiate Boss' claim that Andre's head was bigger. That's the important takeaway in this conversation.
straightahead said on 17/May/16
@Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
I can read, especially when math seems to skew all over the place depending on the time of day.

OK, here is what you said originally:

"claiming 6'3 for OMG was idiotic since he is shorter than the 6'3 Ottman"

So, you say Tenta is 1 inch taller than OMG, then how tall is Tenta again? I seem to recall you spouting the official measurement on Tenta. Yet Gangs not reaching 6'3"?

Tenta may have been taller barefoot, I can't say for sure. Same with Ottman. Just like with Andre, until there is absolute arithmetic involved nobody can truly know, but I know what it looks like when numbers appear to fluctuate around an opinion, and not an answer, and that seems to happen a lot. A half inch here, another inch there.

And if the Gang is wearing boots that give him a lift, it doesn't matter as long he's just a point of comparison in which he has the same basic height boost. There are still plenty of people that say Studd and Hogan wore lifts too, so it's possible. Looking at his back and normal stance these days it's also plausible he might be well under his full or former standing height when standing comfortably.


If Ottman was 6'3 then OMG was a little shorter, not absolutely sure since we couldnt see their footwear but he was taller in both of the pics. Ottman has been listed 6'3 and i admit he looks taller, but again why would he be listed 6'3 if he was taller? Tenta could had been everything from 6'4 to 6'5 3/4 (yes he has had 6'4 listings as well as 6'5) and i would put him at 6'5.

Maybe its time to wake up and realize that the wrestlers werent as big we used to believe?
RoelC said on 17/May/16
Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
Or maybe not.
Click Here
The picture of the mold, and the measurement shot scale almost to perfection. The angles on the shots are a little different but if the mold were way off it would be almost impossible to bring it into this kind of proportion.
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Uhm, wasn’t that exactly the point I was trying to make there?

Yes the deathmask has the same proportions as Tillet’s real head. Which makes it nearly impossible for Tillet’s real head to have been measured at 13 inches, when they took his measurements at Harvard.

Looking at the death mask, the distance from the root of his nose to the bottom of his chin accounts for roughly 60% of his head.
Now apply this 60% to the Harvard measurement of 7.05” and you come out at 11.75” for Tillet’s total head length. If Tillet's head would come out
at 13 inches, the root of his nose to the bottom of his chin only accounts for roughly 54% of his total head length. You would get a completely different shaped head!
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 16/May/16
RoelC said on 12/May/16


No need to guess here. It measures 8 ⅛” (13 ½” -/- 5 ⅜) according to your own pic.

Harvard measured Tillet’s head from the root of his nose to the bottom of his chin at 179mm (7.05”).


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So his head would be at least 11.75"

Andres head comes out taller ~1" , so Andres head was 12.5"-13".
Going smaller or bigger wouldn´t be realistic.
Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
RoelC said on 12/May/16

For Harvard to measure his head at 13 inches, would mean the distance from the root of his nose to the top of his head is almost 6 inches (or roughly 46% of his total head length). That’s even larger than it measures on the deathmask and would mean his head was shaped completely different than what the deathmask is showing. Something doesn’t add up!

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Or maybe not.

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The picture of the mold, and the measurement shot scale almost to perfection. The angles on the shots are a little different but if the mold were way off it would be almost impossible to bring it into this kind of proportion.
Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
JT said on 12/May/16
It’s not rocket science. Tillet’s head measured 18 cm, or just over 7 inches, from the bottom of the chin to where the nose meets the forehead Click Here You can even count the increments on the caliper. Even if you count the fat under his chin, the head length comes out around 11.5”.

Tillet also supposedly measured 5’8 ½” or around 5’9 ½” in shoes Click Here We know the Japanese referee was no more than 5’6” Click Here I’m around 6’6” in shoes and my head around 10 ¼” long. Click Here

For comparison, here’s a pic of me and Bill Walton (6’11.75” per Rob) from a few years ago and our footwear Click Here Walton was a little closer to the camera b/c there was a box in front of my feet used to raise the table he was signing autographs on so he would not have to bend over so much. Walton would stand with impeccable military posture for every photo taken. I don’t think he’s any more than 6’11” now but may have been closer to 7’1” before almost 40 foot, ankle and back surgeries. He has a long face too - probably at least 11 inches.

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It's amazing. In looking at that pic of you and Andre, you have to be the one person I've ever seen that would have had a head that close in comparison to Andre the Giant should the two of you had met. Now, what are the odds of that being the case???
Capt. Nobody said on 15/May/16
straightahead said on 12/May/16
@Capt.Nobody said on 7/May/16

When their hands are raised, OMG is farther away from the camera than Tenta is. Only when he starts to walk closer to the ropes is he nearly in the same horizontal path as Tenta. You can tell because you can see Tentas left hip area overlap the view of the ref, whereas it appears as if the refs left hip and OMG's right hip are pretty close to eachother. This being a fairly flat angle makes any background to foreground movement significant as it relates to scale. The shot where they embrace, while not the best to gain any specific height information clearly shows that OMG interacts in a way to suggest he's taller. OMG is sometimes hard to judge because he tends to lurch forward.

Also, if they are the same height there, how can Ottman be taller than OMG by the amount shown in the pictures you posted earlier? He'd have to have a much bigger heel advantage than 2 inches. And I would take a closer look at his boots in that match if I were you.


Cant you read? Tenta wasnt same height as OMG, he's atleast 1 inch taller. And i said we cant see their footwear in the pictures with Ottman and OMG, but we can see OMG's footwear in the video with Tenta, and it was pretty big heels...


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I can read, especially when math seems to skew all over the place depending on the time of day.

OK, here is what you said originally:

"claiming 6'3 for OMG was idiotic since he is shorter than the 6'3 Ottman"

So, you say Tenta is 1 inch taller than OMG, then how tall is Tenta again? I seem to recall you spouting the official measurement on Tenta. Yet Gangs not reaching 6'3"?

Tenta may have been taller barefoot, I can't say for sure. Same with Ottman. Just like with Andre, until there is absolute arithmetic involved nobody can truly know, but I know what it looks like when numbers appear to fluctuate around an opinion, and not an answer, and that seems to happen a lot. A half inch here, another inch there.

And if the Gang is wearing boots that give him a lift, it doesn't matter as long he's just a point of comparison in which he has the same basic height boost. There are still plenty of people that say Studd and Hogan wore lifts too, so it's possible. Looking at his back and normal stance these days it's also plausible he might be well under his full or former standing height when standing comfortably.
Arch Stanton said on 15/May/16
7 ft 4 is utterly ridiculous. Even 7 ft looks questionable in the Princess Bride, he can look 6 ft 10 in some scenes.
Ice said on 14/May/16
true 7'4" guys like Rick Smits or Priest Lauderdale would have towered Andre .
Boss said on 13/May/16
@Roel . The owner of the mask said he performed the same measurements as Harvard and the mask came out .5" longer because they used calibers which dig in to the bone and he is measuring a hard mold with a t-square. Even if you take the 1" off as the red lines are over 1/8" thick we are still there is still 5.5" to the top of his head and shave a fraction of an inch off that and his head is still over 12" and you yourself made the comparison that Andre had the larger head putting Andre's head in the 13" range and that's what this is about. So quit trying to squirm your way out of it. You are wrong plain and simple. Rob has seen all the evidence brought here over the years. Answer the question why if you think you know everything is your Andre estimate not at the top of the page here and mine is? Andre the Giant's height is 7ft 0in (213cm). That's all the proof I need.
Chaz said on 13/May/16
6'2 said on 12/May/16
chaz theres no point in comparing sum1 who is 4'11 to andre thats absurd wilt jake roberts hogan ernie ladd john studd uncle elmer fair enough you can make an estimate but 23-26" who can tell? and plz dont write back with a comparasion

you don't need any comparasions,everything you need to work he's height out, is in the same photo,you have a 5' tape measure standing right in front of a bolt upright Andre,Ie one 4'11'' about 5' in boots Shoemaker,a jokey we know 100% he's height and weight,you just divide him up in to 5 parts,then measure it on the screen then move it up to the top of he's hair,and work out the differance,and because we know 100% they are both the same height to the camara.and even adding .5'' for shoemaker being closer,even tho there is no gap,but we know for every 12'' you gain 1'' that the camara hits the part in a photo first.you will find the total height of Andre with hair and boots is 7'1'' so there is no way he's 7' barefoot not even 6'11'' he's hair alone is nere 2'',and this is the way the RAF photo interpretation unit worked out to within 1cm the length of both V1 and V2s in WW2 you just need to know the height or length of one thing in the photo, try it yourself it's not hard,
RoelC said on 12/May/16
Boss said on 10/May/16
Roel C my estimates come from the owner of the death mask who has way more knowledge of Maurice Tillet than you ever will or anyone else here for that matter myself included. You can check out his site if you like. He done all the same measurements as Harvard and the death mask head was only .5" larger. Funny how you talk like we're stupid here and you have so much knowledge on Andre yet Rob a height expert raised his height to 7' because that's what the evidence points toward. Why isn't your height estimate at the top of the page here ? I don't care who made the Andre Tillet comparison as I thought Andre's head was bigger long before that comparison was ever done and most here argued it wasn't . So your comparison had nothing to do with my estimate but I thought it was a realistic comparison.

This is getting repetitive!

The one measurement we know for sure was performed in both cases, doesn’t add up and certainly wouldn’t result in a 0.5” difference on the total head length.
We have as you said it photographic proof of the measurement of Tillet’s deathmask.
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You’re the one who posted this image, so you have seen the red lines drawn in the picture to mark the root of the nose and the bottom of the chin.

No need to guess here. It measures 8 ⅛” (13 ½” -/- 5 ⅜) according to your own pic.

Harvard measured Tillet’s head from the root of his nose to the bottom of his chin at 179mm (7.05”). That’s also a fact, and reread my post from a few days ago where I both posted the article and picture to back this up. That’s already more than an inch difference there!

You claimed the Harvard University measured his head at 13 inches, yet not a single medical article or anything else I’ve seen backs this up. Please post this email then, that the owner of the deathmask supposedly send you. And yes I’ve seen his weblog (and his facebook page).

For Harvard to measure his head at 13 inches, would mean the distance from the root of his nose to the top of his head is almost 6 inches (or roughly 46% of his total head length). That’s even larger than it measures on the deathmask and would mean his head was shaped completely different than what the deathmask is showing. Something doesn’t add up!
6'2 said on 12/May/16
chaz theres no point in comparing sum1 who is 4'11 to andre thats absurd wilt jake roberts hogan ernie ladd john studd uncle elmer fair enough you can make an estimate but 23-26" who can tell? and plz dont write back with a comparasion
JT said on 12/May/16
It’s not rocket science. Tillet’s head measured 18 cm, or just over 7 inches, from the bottom of the chin to where the nose meets the forehead Click Here You can even count the increments on the caliper. Even if you count the fat under his chin, the head length comes out around 11.5”.

Tillet also supposedly measured 5’8 ½” or around 5’9 ½” in shoes Click Here We know the Japanese referee was no more than 5’6” Click Here I’m around 6’6” in shoes and my head around 10 ¼” long. Click Here

For comparison, here’s a pic of me and Bill Walton (6’11.75” per Rob) from a few years ago and our footwear Click Here Walton was a little closer to the camera b/c there was a box in front of my feet used to raise the table he was signing autographs on so he would not have to bend over so much. Walton would stand with impeccable military posture for every photo taken. I don’t think he’s any more than 6’11” now but may have been closer to 7’1” before almost 40 foot, ankle and back surgeries. He has a long face too - probably at least 11 inches.
straightahead said on 12/May/16
@Capt.Nobody said on 7/May/16

When their hands are raised, OMG is farther away from the camera than Tenta is. Only when he starts to walk closer to the ropes is he nearly in the same horizontal path as Tenta. You can tell because you can see Tentas left hip area overlap the view of the ref, whereas it appears as if the refs left hip and OMG's right hip are pretty close to eachother. This being a fairly flat angle makes any background to foreground movement significant as it relates to scale. The shot where they embrace, while not the best to gain any specific height information clearly shows that OMG interacts in a way to suggest he's taller. OMG is sometimes hard to judge because he tends to lurch forward.

Also, if they are the same height there, how can Ottman be taller than OMG by the amount shown in the pictures you posted earlier? He'd have to have a much bigger heel advantage than 2 inches. And I would take a closer look at his boots in that match if I were you.


Cant you read? Tenta wasnt same height as OMG, he's atleast 1 inch taller. And i said we cant see their footwear in the pictures with Ottman and OMG, but we can see OMG's footwear in the video with Tenta, and it was pretty big heels...
RYAN11 said on 11/May/16
Chaz, there is no way on God's green earth anyone no matter how experienced or good at judging photos could ever tell the difference in height between a 4'11" man next to someone over 7 feet tall,.especially someone like Andre the Giant given his massive head and face that throws everything off. Also, the other thing nobody who argues for a sub 7 foot Andre ever wants to admit is that in the infamous Wilt and Arnold pics, Andre was much closer to the camera in each photo on a driveway that looks like it is going on a downhill slope. Being closer to the camera makes everyone appear around a half foot shorter. That then makes Andre at least a few inches taller than Wilt.
cobra said on 11/May/16
Doesn't this video from 1976 with NFL measured 6-9 Ernie Ladd confirm Andre was never over 7 feet: Click Here
Boss said on 10/May/16
@ Captain. 12.5" is definitely a good estimate but based on everything I'm leaning toward 13" range. You are also correct on the Maurice Tillet question as well. I'm used to being blasted by these guys and it doesn't bother me at all as I'm confident in all my posts and believe me they can be quite igonorant to posters here. Everything I post is with something to back up what I'm saying and I've dropped some big ones on the Andre subject here. That being said if it wasn't for JT, Roel C, Vegas, Chaz, Halb and a few others in this debate I wouldn't have the crazy amount of knowledge that I've accumulated on Andre over the past decade so for that I'm thankful. Captain, Ncl, Icon, RP, Gretz, 62b, Danimal, Logan Noll and anyone I missed keep up the good work.
Boss said on 10/May/16
Roel C my estimates come from the owner of the death mask who has way more knowledge of Maurice Tillet than you ever will or anyone else here for that matter myself included. You can check out his site if you like. He done all the same measurements as Harvard and the death mask head was only .5" larger. Funny how you talk like we're stupid here and you have so much knowledge on Andre yet Rob a height expert raised his height to 7' because that's what the evidence points toward. Why isn't your height estimate at the top of the page here ? I don't care who made the Andre Tillet comparison as I thought Andre's head was bigger long before that comparison was ever done and most here argued it wasn't . So your comparison had nothing to do with my estimate but I thought it was a realistic comparison.
Chaz said on 10/May/16
Boss said on 7/May/16
Tillet's death mask measures 13.5" in the pic. The owner of the mask emailed me that it measures .5" longer than the Harvard measurements and he done all the same measurements. His face alone would be 12" range but his whole head measures 13".

We don't need any head cast measuremets we can see he's face being measured with calepers,at 7'' to the top of the nose,and has that is by far the longest part ,like with Andre we can work out the face could not have been over 11.5-12'' just like we know the lenght of andre's hand was under 10''from the Japan mag he was holding from that we could work out he's head was only 2''
longer.Both Tiltet's were in the 11.5-12'' range,you got to understand a avarage face is only 9-9.5'' so even an extra .5'' is a lot.1-2 '' is masive that plus Andre's 3'' afro would have made him seem inhuman to look at for real.
Boss said on 9/May/16
The owner of the death mask knows more about Maurice Tillet than all of us here combined. I will take his word and the actual proof with photos of the measurement he provided over anyone's guessing or comparisons. Maurice's head was 13" range.
RoelC said on 8/May/16
Boss said on 5/May/16
Roel C you are biased as they come. We have Maurice Tillets head being measured with photo evidence and your still trying to downgrade his head size. So we should go by your estimates over actual proof. People shouldn't pay any attention to your posts because they are based on no fact. One fact is that your an Observer fanboy and hate to think Meltzer has been milking your money with all his inside bull for all these years and a couple books on top of that. The guy who runs the website your referencing confirmed Tillets head was measured at 13" long.

My estimations of Tillet’s head are based on the measurements that were performed on Tillet’s actual head. Not a mold of his head, but his ACTUAL HEAD. Apparently you don’t know the difference.

It’s funny how you think my estimates are crap, but you keep posting that head comparison I’ve made of Tillet & Andre. And if there’s one time I’ve posted something here based on no fact at all, that comparison would be it.

And for your info, not everyone who thinks Andre is less than 7 feet is automatically a Meltzer fanboy.
Chaz said on 8/May/16
6'2 said on 6/May/16
the only time i ever saw andre stand straight is when he was supposedly getting measured and weighed theres a pic out there of it. its the first time i saw his neck because thats his actual height theres some absurd equation to say he was 84.5"' or something anyway thats his proper standing height no sloching and hes barefoot not sure of the year but wasnt late id say around 1980 or so anyway looks at least 7ft tall in it

he was perfectly straight in 1975 Next to 4'11'' Shoemaker and in peak height and health and stilll was nothing over 6'10''.
Capt. Nobody said on 8/May/16
Just for clarification JT, now Andre's head is larger than Tillets was? Correct? Tillets in the 11-11.5 range, Andre close to 12?

I seem to recall Boss being blasted for suggesting that Andre's head was bigger than Tillets. Is there a way to look through the old posts Rob? I may not be remembering correctly but I'm sure of that being the case.
Capt. Nobody said on 8/May/16
Boss said on 6/May/16
Jt all your posts are BS and your ruler is also set to fit your story everytime. You claim Big Show has a 12" head and Andre is lucky if he has a 12" head. Your basically saying Show's head is larger Andre when that has been proven wrong here. You had Tillet's head at 13" on your ruler and never changed your story until the Andre and Tillets head comparisons were done and Andre's head came out larger than Tillet's.

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I made a specific point at one time to make sure everyone was on the same page at 12.5" for Andre's head. I could have sworn it was agreed upon, yet here we are. LOL.
Boss said on 7/May/16
Tillet's death mask measures 13.5" in the pic. The owner of the mask emailed me that it measures .5" longer than the Harvard measurements and he done all the same measurements. His face alone would be 12" range but his whole head measures 13".
Capt.Nobody said on 7/May/16
JT said on 5/May/16
Basing the actual head size on a head mold is worthless. The actual mold of Richard Kiel's noggin measures 23" from the base to the top of the head, meaning that his head would have to be in the neighborhood of 17" long, which is absurd. Click Here

IIRC TIllet's head measured around 11" to 11.5" long based on the actual measurement made from the tip of his chin to the point where the top of the nose meets the forehead. Yet Boss will keep regurgitating the same B.S. every six months or so.

Andre's head was maybe 12" and that might be pushing it Click Here Click Here

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What did the owner of the head mold have to say on the subject?

OK, if Andre's head was maybe 12", then why in this picture of yours showing Andre with the car, does his head come up around 10.5 inches according to your ruler?

Click Here
Capt.Nobody said on 7/May/16
straightahead said on 5/May/16
Capt. Nobody said on 4/May/16

Who was taller, Ottman or Tenta in your opinion?

Because Tenta was, and OMG looked to be a little taller than Tenta. What you're saying goes against all the established principles involved. Despite what one photo tells you. As for OMG today, I just saw an interview from just recently and it looks like he's got quite a bit of a hunch in the back these days so I have no doubts it's hard for him to stand up straight so he might be shorter than Ottman depending on the circumstances.

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What i based my opinions from wasnt from one photo, but two. OMG was slightly shorter than Ottman, but we didnt see their footwear. Between Ottman and Tenta, Tenta was around 1 inch taller.

OMG only looked taller because you captured the moment where he looked taller, why didnt you take the screenshot when BOTH MEN had their arms up? - same height. And OMG had his typical 2 inch heeled boots, so its case closed. Tenta had one inch on OMG.

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When their hands are raised, OMG is farther away from the camera than Tenta is. Only when he starts to walk closer to the ropes is he nearly in the same horizontal path as Tenta. You can tell because you can see Tentas left hip area overlap the view of the ref, whereas it appears as if the refs left hip and OMG's right hip are pretty close to eachother. This being a fairly flat angle makes any background to foreground movement significant as it relates to scale. The shot where they embrace, while not the best to gain any specific height information clearly shows that OMG interacts in a way to suggest he's taller. OMG is sometimes hard to judge because he tends to lurch forward.

Also, if they are the same height there, how can Ottman be taller than OMG by the amount shown in the pictures you posted earlier? He'd have to have a much bigger heel advantage than 2 inches. And I would take a closer look at his boots in that match if I were you.
Chaz said on 7/May/16
Boss said on 6/May/16
Jt all your posts are BS and your ruler is also set to fit your story everytime. You claim Big Show has a 12" head and Andre is lucky if he has a 12" head. Your basically saying Show's head is larger Andre when that has been proven wrong here. You had Tillet's head at 13" on your ruler and never changed your story until the Andre and Tillets head comparisons were done and Andre's head came out larger than Tillet's.

all your compasons are useless, you have not got a clue about being closer to the camara,or when a car is higher than the other,JT is the only one that know's a thing about it.and it's no good people trying to talk RoelC down because over the years he only posts anything one way or the other when he is 100% sure of what he is saying,and he is right about the mesurment of Tilets face because that part is the only part on a Acromegalics face that can grown in lenghth,the head cannot,the jew and gums do,the rest can't after the long bones fuse.Andre's forhead is not over 4''.so anyone over he's eyes we can easly work out the differance,so go look up some medical books and lean somthing, the best you can give him is 6'11'' out of bed, I have never seen him look over 6'10'' in the evening in the ring,
straightahead said on 7/May/16
I dont wanna pick side here, but i highly doubt that Andre's head were anything less than 13 inches long.
Halb said on 6/May/16
All anyone has to do is browser search BMW mini versus the old UK mini, there are plenty of size pics. The old true mini is much smaller than the new BMW mini.
6'2 said on 6/May/16
the only time i ever saw andre stand straight is when he was supposedly getting measured and weighed theres a pic out there of it. its the first time i saw his neck because thats his actual height theres some absurd equation to say he was 84.5"' or something anyway thats his proper standing height no sloching and hes barefoot not sure of the year but wasnt late id say around 1980 or so anyway looks at least 7ft tall in it
RP said on 6/May/16
***Ken Patera
187 cm
6'1-5/8"
RP said on 6/May/16
Note: in his 20's, young powerlifting Ken Patera was measure @ 187 centimeters! Or 6'1.75"...he was also over 300 lbs at his largest ...310-320lbs at one point. Trimmed down to 275 & then eventually 250 lbs do to health reasons. However, no clue if that measurement was with shoes on or barefoot???
Boss said on 6/May/16
That Richard Kiel cast is not even the original cast if you read the description on item. It's a cast of a cast and measures 23" and the base and neck look longer than 6". This is an item meant for sale and is not the same as Maurice Tillet's original head mold .
Boss said on 6/May/16
Jt all your posts are BS and your ruler is also set to fit your story everytime. You claim Big Show has a 12" head and Andre is lucky if he has a 12" head. Your basically saying Show's head is larger Andre when that has been proven wrong here. You had Tillet's head at 13" on your ruler and never changed your story until the Andre and Tillets head comparisons were done and Andre's head came out larger than Tillet's.
62B said on 6/May/16
6'2 said on 4/May/16
theres not definitive proof he wasnt 7'4 i say let the legend live on his posture alone lost him several inches of height even in the 70s he never stood up to his maxium height
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Not a chance of ever being 7'4". He was around 6'11" in 1988 standing as tall as he could, early in the day. No way he lost 5" by his early 40's. The JT's, Chaz's, and ersmiths can argue all they want of a Peak Andre being 6'10" peak, and the Ryan11's can argue for a 7'4" peak all they want. Worst case scenario peak height is 6'11" best case is maybe 7'.025"

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