How tall is Sylvester Stallone - Page 19

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Peak: 5ft 8.89in (175cm)
Current: 5ft 8.02in (172.8cm)
Brad said on 6/Mar/09
Perry owns him clear. Tellum tellum. He forgot his NYC sandals in Costa Rica. Correct Ejel, he's barely taller than Dennis Hopper and Hopper looks 6" shorter than Peter Fonda in the Spring of 1968 in Easy Rider. He'd never be that in slippers there with Weathers.
Ejel Khan said on 6/Mar/09
Risingforce .... ever heard of camera tricks? Explains the slipper scenerio!
Mickey said on 6/Mar/09
So being only slightly closer to the camera will defeat a clear tilt in Sly's favour AND the fact that Perry's head is down????? I try and see things your way but some of it is really questionable. With those advantages to Sly he should be at least equal height to Perry if Sly really was/is 5'10".
RisingForce said on 6/Mar/09
Perry King is also clearly closer to the camera Mickey so Sly wouldn't be getting much of an advantage.
Mickey said on 5/Mar/09
Sorry Rising but in your pic Perry King has his head down, while SLy has better(not military,but better) posture. Also the photo is tilted in Sly's favor, he does look short in the pic.

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Looking at the fence it is clear the photo is tilted in Sly's favor.
Stallone liftless said on 5/Mar/09
Stallone is no more than 5'7-5'9. I agree with Danimal. Im from Costa Rica and i met Stallone back in 87-88 in Guanacaste Costa Rica and i and my friends were shocked of how small he looked in sandals at the beach. He appeared to be 6"0 in most of his movies coz he wears shoe lifts but i met him in Costa Rica and he was really far from being a 5'10(178cm) and i know the difference between a 170cm and a 178cm coz im myself a 5'11(181cm) man and i had 4 inches on stallone. It's laughable when Rising Force is claiming 5"11 in the morning for Stallone. I agree with Danimal. You guys are just magnifying stallone's height here.
Stallone liftless said on 5/Mar/09
Stallone is no more than 5'7-5'9. I agree with Danimal. Im from Costa Rica and i met Stallone back in 87-88 in Guanacaste Costa Rica and i and my friends were shocked of how small he looked in sandals at the beach. He appeared to be 6"0 in most of his movies coz he wears shoe lifts but i met him in Costa Rica and he was really far from being a 5'10(178cm) and i know the difference between a 170cm and a 178cm coz im myself a 5'11(181cm) man and i had 4 inches on stallone. It's laughable when Rising Force is claiming 5"11 in the morning for Stallone.
anonymous said on 5/Mar/09
Sly and Mister T posing in boxing shoes...
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If Mister T was 5.10 (1 M 79) Sly was 176 cm (a good 5.9)
TELLEM said on 5/Mar/09
footage of sly and his wife flavin...both in sneakers...look about the same height...sly does not look taller thats for sure: Click Here
TELLEM said on 5/Mar/09
1.5 inches between perry king and sly? check this vid out @ 3:40- ...thats no 1.5 inches between the two...try 3. Click Here
Brad said on 5/Mar/09
King next to Sly owns him: at least 3.5". Sly is barely taller than Fonz. Great photo Yaspaa, you exposed Stallone. Yes, Rising, Stallone is known to wear lifts: like $2,000 customs with huge wedge inside. Eddie doesn't wear that garbage.
RisingForce said on 5/Mar/09
Danimal, I have no M.O. Not all of your opinions are reality. People can have different opinions. I've never said to you let go the grip that Sly is 5'8", 5'9" liftless because to me that's every bit as ridiculous as 5'10.75" out of bed sounds to you.

You can stand by him being 5'8", 5'9" liftless ally ou want. It doesn't mean I have to. It's not like I just state he's 5'10.75" and don't back it up with anything.
Danimal said on 5/Mar/09
Rising Force, let go of the grip that Stallone is almost 5'11" first thing in the morning. I DOUBT he is reading these forums (if that is you M.O.), or to get on Glenn's good side, which would bring you closer to the stars that HE meets on a daily basis...

I stand by Stallone being in the 5'8"-5'9" range LIFTLESS...
glenn said on 5/Mar/09
how come rob hasnt up the other pic i have with sly?

Editor Rob
it's up there now.
RisingForce said on 5/Mar/09
Brigitte Nielsen said Sly was "5-10, 5-10 1/2".

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Brigitte(pointing at Eddie) says "He's 5'9", 5'9 1/2", but people who I live with(Stallone) are 5'10", 5'10 1/2". She then goes on to say when he's got shoes on he's 6 feet tall, but I don't know if she's referring to Eddie or Sly when she says that. Eddie is shouting "She may be in love with a guy 5-9", obviously referring to Stallone. But that could be in defense to Brigitte calling Eddie out on his 5-10 claim several times.

Looking at this picture it seems like Brigitte was right.
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Sly is leaning and still about 2 inches taller than Eddie. I'm not sure on footwear, but both are known to wear lifts. Worst case I'd say Sly is Eddie's height, but he's likely an inch taller.
RisingForce said on 5/Mar/09
Owned? They're in mid-stride. Those pictures are not reliable at all.

Here's one where they're standing still and despite being closer to the camera Perry King has 1.5" max on Sly. They're both in boots.
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What do you say about that Brad?
Brad said on 5/Mar/09
Great photo Yaspaa. Barely taller than Fonz and owned by a 6'er. The Lords of Flatbush exposed.
Yaspaa said on 5/Mar/09
Guy 2nd from left is 6'0 Perry King Click Here
glenn said on 5/Mar/09
5-9,5-10 is in the average range.5-8 lower end of average,kind of short.i think you get my point.5-9 is not average for white or black males in new york city by the way.5-11 for white males.more for blacks.latinos average 5-8.
derek d said on 4/Mar/09
Hey Rob, why isn't this page in the "Popular Articles" section anymore? I think this page is far more popular and interesting than those other celeb pages...
RisingForce said on 4/Mar/09
I want Ejel's opinion on the scene in Rocky 3 where Sly was wearing slippers and Carl Weathers had 3 inches max on him.
miko said on 4/Mar/09
Im suprised Sly's ribcage hasn't burst out of his chest with all this forced posture.
Ejel Khan said on 4/Mar/09
Sly can be 5'10-6' with lifts .... without 5'8" so 5'9" is a good estimate, with dress shoes etc.
dani said on 4/Mar/09
Glenn a question for you? Why do you say that 5'10 is average? Average is 5'9(175.59cm) so 5'10 is an inch over average in America. Can you explain to me please?
Christian said on 4/Mar/09
Brad - I understand giant customs, I have a couple myself. One of them gives me 3 inches.
ACG said on 4/Mar/09
Gotta love it when guys that are trolling have the nerve to call other people trolls....
glenn said on 4/Mar/09
what a joke.
glenn said on 4/Mar/09
thats funny.i met stallone dozens of times during a 20 year period,have photo proof of 2 encounters,yet i need my eyes checked.you need your brain checked.keep the fantasy going watching dvds.i see this guy in the flesh.not in pics.what celebs have you met anonymous? what have you contributed to the site? my estimates arent laughed at here.some disagree,but if i wasnt respected here i would be gone long ago.your a joke to the site.i read an article 17 years or more ago that called deniro short at 5-10.yes,to some,5-10 is short.in reality its average.but 5-10 celebs are the basis of all arguments on the site cause 5-10 is the magic height.with bad posture you can look 5-8.5,5-9.with thick shoes and great posture you can look 6ft.talk your nonsense elsewhere.i dont have time for people like you.
adam said on 4/Mar/09
There`s a pic where Sly is next to almost 6-2 Arnold and looks about half a foot shorter. And there Sly doesn
RisingForce said on 3/Mar/09
Christian, I have no problem with you believing Arnie is about 3 inches taller. I do think that saying it's obvious is wrong because there are plenty of pictures that back up either of our beliefs. Stallone doesn't seem to be standing his tallest there and the photo is tilted in Arnold's favor. Here are a bunch of pictures I've posted over and over from that night, yet they're always ignored.

In full body shots he's maybe an inch max shorter than Arnold
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Arnold's shoes look suspicious too. Zach noticed this as well.
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Half an inch shorter than Arnold here again
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Here Sly has loose posture and Arnie is standing straighter yet Sly is 1 inch max shorter.
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Here Arnie is closer to the camera, but only an inch taller.
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Here Arnie is standing straight but only half an inch taller than Sly who is slouching
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Then here's one from another day. Arnold in 1" sneakers is barely taller than Sly in 1.75" work boots.
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Actually Arnold's head is tilted higher while Sly's is tilted down a bit. Arnold is barely taller there and that's yet another full body shot like the first 2 pictures from the Rambo premiere

Here at a boxing match in 2008 Arnold is gaining a good advantage from being closer to the camera, but he's still not much taller.
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In fact Sly's eye level is even with Arnie's and minus Arnie's hair advantage the difference looks maybe about half an inch.

In this 2006 picture Arnie is gaining a noticeable camera advantage and they look pretty similar in height.
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Granted Sly is doing the full "Stallone effect" and Arnold is leaning so they both have advantages. Regardless the difference is very small between them in that picture.

Even back at the 2002 World Stunt Awards, Sly looked only about an inch shorter.
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I also believe Arnie was taller in 2002 than he is now. Arnie looked 6'1" minimum compared to 5'7" John Leguizamo around that time. Click Here Sly was almost surely wearing lifts as he was taller than Matthew McConaughey that night, but regardless lifts can only do so much.

Sometimes it looks more like 3 and then others less than 1. I personally believe Arnie isn't more than an inch and a half taller barefoot these days and he hasn't had 2+ inches on Sly since before Terminator 3 IMO.
Brad said on 3/Mar/09
Christian doesn't understand what giant customs are...there is a diffirence (sic) if they are on a beach with no shoes.
Former Stallone Agent said on 3/Mar/09
Look guys, I an unable to share photos: too many security issues, possible damage to my career, legal issues etc etc. I randomly came across this site and I was amazed to see how much time and effort is spent on a very pointless issue.

Photographs and movies do NOT give a true assesment of an actors height as there are so many tricks and angles to make an actor look several inches taller.

So I will do all of you guys a favor: Stallone is 5'7 1/2 . . . and most of Hollywood is about 1-2 inches shorter than what they actually state, very few are actually the height that they list.

Even Sandalls and low sneakers are elevated to enhance height. So trust me, you guys can go back and forth all day long . . . but take it from someone in the business . . . unless you see these celebrities standing next to you barefoot on even ground, you will never be able to estimate their true height.

All the Best!
Christian said on 3/Mar/09
The diffirence between Sly and Arnold is more like 3 inches, it is obvious. Click Here
Annoyed said on 3/Mar/09
Hi Glenn, anno, I just feel the discussion in this page is a bit more directionless, seems a stand-off between the Stallone short v Stallone Average groups. I fall into the second camp obviously. Whereas on the Downey page we have pretty much nailed it between me and risingforce so we can protect that conclusion, here, there is no conclusion, I know what Glenn believes, I know what my friend said ( who has met him barefoot in his airport security job ) . I know what most of the pictures and a wee bit of common sense says. Stallone is just a lower average guy. he is in the 5'9" - 5'10" evening category, people assume he is short caue they expect him to be 6'1" or 6'2" judging by his films, then they see this stocky guy who is shorter than alot of guys and only looks tall in big mental shoes, so they say "they things where like 4 inches " etc. The reality though, is that he can match a solid 6'0" and can sneak up to a 6'1" appearence. This is just impossible for a 5'8" man. So he has to be taller than that.

Its just my opinion but I do think it is fairly obvious that an actual 5'8" is out the question, 5'9" is believable and would fit alright ( being around 5'10" morning ) 5'9.5" is getting into the territory of very likely. 5'10" flat is a good midday estimate for him ( my own :P forgive my vanity ) 5'10" + midday or morning I just cant have. 5'10.5" morning 5'10" midday 5'9.5" evening......and im sticking ;)
TELLEM said on 3/Mar/09
that was me who posted hulk hogan's quote from his book...5'8 for sly.
Kev said on 3/Mar/09
ok so..

if glenn at 5'7 (5'8 with shoes) was tiptoeing and only got to sly's eye level, how tall is sly, 6'1 with sandals on? so you are telling me sly's a legit 6 footer?

the math doesn't quite work out there.
Brad said on 3/Mar/09
Sly needs to market those sandals. He could give them to Hopper who is 5' 7" and is literally almost Sly's height in golf shoes. Danimal is correct, so is Sly Agent.
RisingForce said on 3/Mar/09
Anonymous, Glenn doesn't need to get his eyes checked, he has photo proof.
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In that picture Glenn was 5'7" and tip toeing(by his own admission), Sly was wearing sandals. So unless Glenn was 5'4", which we know he wasn't then I don't think he needs his eyes checked.
Danimal said on 3/Mar/09
Danimal says on 26/Feb/09
Okay, Rob didn't post what I wrote. That clip Tellem posted from Copland is NOT the scene I was referring to. I was referring to the scene well into the movie when they both were standing on the street on LEVEL GROUND, both in flip flops and Liotta had a good 4" on Sly. Can anyone find the scene?

[Editor Rob: Danimal, half the time you are seemingly submitting the comment twice...your comments are the hardest to keep track of since I forget if I've approved or deleted the duplicates :)]

Sorry Rob!
RisingForce said on 3/Mar/09
Roger, Sly almost always appears 5'11"+ movies. The question is how much is due to posture and how much of an advantage he gets. An example in the movie where Sly clearly looks 5'11"-6'0" is this scene walking alongside 6'1" Richard Crenna.

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They scene starts at 8:21. There's not much of a difference between them. Roger, I don't think the difference between Sly and Arnold is a full 2 inches honestly. I think it's more like 1.5" and I think Arnie is 6'0" flat. I've posted about 10 pictures from that same premiere where they're not doing that aqward pose and there's barely a difference between them. I'll be interested to see your pictures though.

Roger, have you ever seen the pictures where Sly looks no less than 6'1"-6'2" next to Dolph Lundgren and Tom Arnold?

Brad, Sly's boots in Rambo 2 were't any bigger than Martin Kove or Richard Crenna's. I posted a shot of them not long ago. He could have gotten an advantage from a lift inside, but don't act like his boots had huge heels. The heels on his boots in First Blood were much bigger than in Rambo 2.

I already posted a picture where Sly looked atleast 1.5" taller than Jack on the golf course. Both with great posture. I already gave an explanation for the Dennis Hopper picture, ground level.In the full body shot if not for the ground/tilt I see Sly at 2.5" taller, plus more because he's slouching.
Anonymous said on 3/Mar/09
Glenn, you are hillarious. Either you are a troll or you are trying to conceal Slyu's height. You should see 5-10 guys at 6-0 from a distance at your perspective at 5-8 most of the time. 5-10 looks taller 90 percent of the time. Not shorter. The only time people might think it looks shorter are guys way above 6-0, or they are fat.

No wonder you see a 5-7-5-8 Sly at 5-10-5-11. You need your eyes checked.
glenn said on 3/Mar/09
wrong.5-10 can look short to alot of people,including myself.especially from 10 to 20 feet away.i even see 5-10 men at 5-8 until i get closer.and my 5-10,5-11 friends i swore were 5-9.their horrendous posture,and relaxed hips which i never knew about,added to the illusion.doesnt matter if my friends are heavy set or skinny.they are both extremes.
glenn said on 3/Mar/09
good to see you on here annoyed.in my opinion you dont post enough.
Annoyed said on 3/Mar/09
Some dude is mocking me on the Robert Downey jr page for posting so much, I told him to come here and say that to you fellas. If he thinks I post alot there, he clearly hasnt read this thread !

why do people continualy appear every now and again and slag us for talking so mucha bout height!?? this is a discussion website for goodness sake. aaah

Anyway, Stallone still at 5'10" midday flat for me :P 5'9.5" evening though, 5'10.5" morning.
Danimal said on 3/Mar/09
5'8" Minimum and 5'9" Maximum for Sly. He's probably somewhere in between there BAREFOOT.
mcfan said on 2/Mar/09
Clearly taller than Kurt Russell in Tango & Cash by an inch. (they were both barefoot in one scene and side by side) If Russell is 5'9 then he must be 5'10. However, my best guess is that Russell is 5'8.5 and Stallone 5'9.5. I think Russell wears lifts too.
Roger said on 2/Mar/09
I cannot understand how Sly ever looked "in the 5'11'' to 6' range" - he never did so imho.

RisingForce, as you know see Arnold having 2 inches on Sly, and that makes a very weak 5'10'' at max possible for Sly. Please head over to Arnold's site here, I've uploaded some interesting new photos of Arnold that show Arnold being not even 6' anymore today.

Here's 5'11.5'' Arnold and Sly, probably from the Rambo premiere:
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Random Person said on 2/Mar/09
Always thought he'd be 5'10.5, wonders of those elevator shoes..
Brad said on 2/Mar/09
Sly's boots in Rambo were customs. Huge wedge/heel. Yeah, that's 1/4" shorter than 5' 11" with Dennis Hopper. Give me a break. He'd own Jack with ease at 5' 10.75". He can't in golf shoes. The agent knows, and I'm sure his laughter is heard down Sunset. I've met Garcia, he's going to be taller than Jack. Look above Riser: 5' 9". Imagine 5' 10.75" listed as his height on this site?
derek d said on 2/Mar/09
Former Stallone Agent - Do you have any pictures with him? Usually if you want people to believe comments like these, a long detailed story with your encounters with him would be nice... Not saying I or anyone doesn't believe you, but anyone could just say what you did, its just reality.
derek d said on 2/Mar/09
Former Stallone Agent - D
Anonymous said on 2/Mar/09
i have hulk hogan's book and he said "funny how america sees stallone as hundred feet tall, but in reality hes only 5'8, and 160 pounds soaking wet"
Zach said on 2/Mar/09
Former Stallone Agent says on 2/Mar/09
Worked with him during the 80s and 90s . . . 5'7 1/2 max.
End of story.

I guess that settles it.
glenn said on 2/Mar/09
that funny cause last time i checked rob was thinking of upgrading him to 5-9.5.even rob is more convinvced of the higher end.
RisingForce said on 2/Mar/09
Thanks derek d, but I wasn't claiming he was liftless and I'm not claiming he's 5'11" barefoot either. All I'm saying is that they both had similar boots so the only footwear advantage would have been the lifts in the shoes. That means he most likely wouldn't have had more than a 1 inch advantage, and the height of their knees and waists backs that up.

I see a 1.5" difference because Sly's top eye is around Kove's nose and the top of his head is around the bottom of Kove's hair line. I don't see any real camera advantage. Throughout Rambo 2 Sly looked in the 5'11" to 6'0" range, in First Blood he looked 5'10"-5'11" range and in Rambo 3 he looked about 6'0".
derek d said on 2/Mar/09
Rising force - Great picture with 6-1ish Martin.... But he is a lot shorter than just 1.5 inches, probably 2 - 2.5 if you look closely as he is closer to the camera.... Still looks around 5'11 with him though, but you have to admit there is no way Sly is liftless there, I mean he's playing Rambo lol and the boots he was wearing were suspicious. The only movie he's appeared without lifts was Cop Land and that only a few parts.
Former Stallone Agent said on 2/Mar/09
Worked with him during the 80s and 90s . . . 5'7 1/2 max.

End of story.
RisingForce said on 2/Mar/09
Brad, how can you say Frank2 was accurate when he had Sly at 5'7" and you have him at 5'8.5"? In fact you've said before "not under 5'8.5", not over 5'9", which makes it seem like you think it's more likely that he's 5'9" than 5'8" flat. Frank2's 5'7" estimate is as far off from yours as 5'10" is.

And in some pictures in golf shoes he can look near 5'11" next to Jack and Caan. The full body shot with Caan showed that. In the full body shot with Dennis Hopper he looked 5'9.5"(if Hopper is 5'7"), but Sly was also slouching.

And no he was not shorter than De Niro in that scene.
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De Niro is closer to the camera and the high angle favors him, yet Sly still seems atleast 5'10" compared to 5'9" Robert De Niro.

Don't forget this shot of the two of them. This is the best shot of them as far as camera angles and they're the closer together than in any other picture making a ground difference less likely.

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Stallone is slouching a bit more than De Niro and he's still taller. He doesn't look under 5'10" there.
Brad said on 2/Mar/09
Frank2 was accurate. Correct Carefunk, he was shorter than DeNiro in that scene. A cast is built up on the bottom for protection. Look at him with Caan & Nicholson & Hopper, that's not near 5' 11" in a lifetime. The Hopper picture is the best one. Yes Ivan, that's reality in sandals. Last time I checked it said 5' 9" for Sly as his height on this site, 1/2" military stance and that it is.
TELLEM said on 2/Mar/09
jack doesn't EVEN look 5'9 next to andy garcia...he looks 5'8.
RisingForce said on 2/Mar/09
Here's a good rare picture. Stallone looks about 1.5" shorter than 6-1ish Martin Kove. Click Here

Both wore similar boots for the film. Sly most likely couldn't have gotten more than an inch, maybe an inch and a half max lifts in those boots. So how does he look 5'11.5" with probably an inch max footwear advantage? Look at Stallone's knees and Kove's knees, Sly's aren't any higher and Kove's legs are still quite a bit longer. So it doesn't appear that Sly is getting a monster boost over Kove.

I defintley think that photo suggests he's around 5'10.75".
RisingForce said on 2/Mar/09
adam, Glenn has seen Sly over a dozen times in all kinds of footwear and says he's atleast 5'10". It's not a question of somebody lying. Why does Frank2's estimate automatically rule out Glenn's estimate? I personally have stated why I believe Glenn's estimate, and that's because he's met him more and he has 2 pictures back up his estimates. Plus 5'10"+ for Sly makes far more sense to me than 5'7"-5'8" does.

I'm not saying you can't believe Frank2's estimate, but to say Stallone is shorter than 5-9 no questions is absurd. Especially considering that most evidence here suggests Sly is atleast 5'9", including his listing on this site.
leonari said on 2/Mar/09
Ivan: Glenn is not the owner of this site. Thats why.
RisingForce said on 1/Mar/09
Brad, first of all what do you mean cast on his foot with caan? Are you accusing that of giving him more height HAHAHA...man that's funny. How do you know he had lifts with his wife there? It was on the golf course and he usually does wear golf shoes on the golf course. At a red carpet event you'd probably be right. Jack still looks 5'9" and in a picture with them looking right at eachother on the golf course Sly had 1.5" on him so I don't know why you're saying "Sly would eat Jack up". First of all that's a weird term especially for height and more importantly 1.5" isn't a big difference.
Ejel Khan said on 1/Mar/09
Sly is still growing and he's 63 in july ..... this is all down to those famous lifts!
ACG said on 28/Feb/09
ivan says on 26/Feb/09
Rising Force, have your seen Sly in sandals in front of you?I have a friend who saw him in sandals in California and he says Sly is 5"8 at best more leading towards 5'7.


Well, Rising Force and I have a friend who has met him multiple times in a wide variety of footwear including flat sandals and says Stallone is 5'10.75".
Ejel Khan said on 28/Feb/09
Sly is 5'8" without lifts ... possibly 5'9" in dress shoes.
anonymous said on 28/Feb/09
To Doug : at 50 Y.O, it's impossible to grow without surgery. Good Posture or strectching only gives 1/4 of an inch...no more. Gaining 2 inch by stretching or posture is IMPOSSIBLE.
ivan said on 28/Feb/09
To clay:

5"9-5'10 are not short by any means. 5"9-5"10 are tall when you're comparing it to a 5'7 person and my friend is 5"11 and saw a 5"7-5'8 sly in sandals.
ivan said on 28/Feb/09
I wanna know why Glenn hasn't upgraded sly's height to 5'10 on this website? Glenn said Sly was 5"10 when he saw sly in sandals?
ivan said on 27/Feb/09
This question goes to either rising force or Glenn.
1.How come Glenn has Sly as 5'9(1.75)on this page eventhough Glenn saw Sly in sandals neck to neck and Glenn said Sly was 5'1050. Why hasn't Glenn updated sly's height to 5"10?
juandi said on 27/Feb/09
"You do realize 5'9/5'10 comes off as short to a lot of people? You're friend is no different and probably cant judge height to save his life."

Clay you gotta be kidding. A 5'10 can never look short to me or anybody. Short is 5'7 or less. I want to remind you that the average for men in America is 5'9 or 1.75 cm. Most 5'10 i know look kinda tall. You gotta be kidding me. 5'10 can never look short.
TELLEM said on 27/Feb/09
Danimal says on 26/Feb/09
Okay, Rob didn't post what I wrote. That clip Tellem posted from Copland is NOT the scene I was referring to. I was referring to the scene well into the movie when they both were standing on the street on LEVEL GROUND, both in flip flops and Liotta had a good 4" on Sly. Can anyone find the scene?

i have no idea what scene your referring to, atleast gimme a little more details so i can post it.
Brad said on 27/Feb/09
Cast on his foot with Caan, Sly in lifts with wife, Jack can't military stand all the time. Jack hasn't been 5' 9" since he was with George McGovern in '72. Hey Rising explain how Sly looks so short with Dennis Hopper in no lifts and so tall with Glenn in no lifts. You can't get owned that big (standing on toes) and have Dennis Hopper look like that next to you. Sumthins vwary twicky says Porky Pig. Hey Doug, he wore massive heeled boots in the 70's and still looked short. In Nighhawks he looked really lost for height, big time. Hey Ivan, one of the main people who contributed here, Frank2, saw the same and just left the site in disgust battling the 5' 10.75"ers. What can you do? In golf shoes with Jack Nicholson who hasn't seen 5' 9" in decades should be enough. At 5' 10.75" he'd eat Jack up, big. He can't.
JTRoN said on 27/Feb/09
that Cop Land clip shows more then a 2" difference. Liotta is clearly slouching and leaning in that scene, Sly's leg look really short as well. If Ray stood up I believe his eyes would be looking at the top of Sly's head. I also watched the movie after that clip since I had never scene it, and Sly was at the shortest I have ever seen him in a movie. I pegged him at a strong 5'8 to a possible 5'9ish guy. Comparing him to other actors and extras in the movie, he was always small. I believe he was liftless the whole movie and it showed. On another note, not a bad movie, weak ending and great acting by Sly.

Its rare to get a response, but Rob you usually have a non biased perspective, what's your thought on the Cop Land clip?
Christian said on 27/Feb/09
Sly did look close to 5'10'' with sandels on in Copland.
RisingForce said on 27/Feb/09
Doug, Stallone could reach 6-1 back in the 80's Look at the Victory premiere with 6-2 Michael Caine, or watch Cobra where he looks taller than 6-0 Brigitte Nielsen in some scenes, and barely shorter than 6-3 listed Reni Santoni in others. Here's a picture from the mid 80's where he's next to Brigitte Nielsen. Click Here Here's another where it seems like he'd surely measure 6-1 in footwear comparing him to Arnie. Click Here
Doug said on 27/Feb/09
Did nobody see the clip of Stallone barefoot with Kurt Russell? They were a similar height barefoot. He is over 5'7". ONe thing though Hulk Hogan claims he is 5'8". Let me tell you though, Hogan is known to EXAGERRATE heights. Usually above what people are, he claims his daughter is 6 foot, and he was 6'7". We know this is higher than was reality. So if Hogan claims 5'8" for Stallone which is not unreasonable compared to Mr. T, I think we can be assured he is or was not over this. I personally think he looks 5'9" barefoot and can reach 6 foot in his munsters today. If he is just 5'8" barefoot my god he must be wearing platforms as it is virtually impossible for a 5'8" guy to look as high as 6 ft to 6'1" as Sly often does. I think Sly looked 5'7"-5'8" in the 80s. Today he had grown about two inches by whatever stretching or regime he has had to improve his stature. Today he is at least 5'9" barefoot to pull off 6'1. He NEVER could reach that height in the 70s and 80s as he was 5'7"-5'8" naturally I'm sure.
glenn said on 27/Feb/09
christian is right.liotta is a hair over 6ft.
Parker said on 27/Feb/09
Beckham and Stallone. Not a great pic, but supports Sly at 5'10.
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bam said on 26/Feb/09
based on the caan pic and glenn's sighting (and about 500 other pics) stallone is at absolute minimum 5'9.5. Odds are tiny he is shorter than caan. Glenn, what height for sly would you bet your life on? Obviously he is taller than your 5'8, and over 5'9 flat...
derek d said on 26/Feb/09
Sly looks 5'9 there to me, not 5'10..... But at a first glance I think he looked "shockingly" short to me and most people because he is much heavier in terms of actually being fat for that role, which made him look stockier and shorter. Question to all the people here who think he is 5'10 or over, how tall does he look to you in the sandals next to Liotta?
Clay said on 26/Feb/09
ivan says on 26/Feb/09
Rising Force, have your seen Sly in sandals in front of you?I have a friend who saw him in sandals in California and he says Sly is 5"8 at best more leading towards 5'7.

You do realize 5'9/5'10 comes off as short to a lot of people? You're friend is no different and probably cant judge height to save his life.
RisingForce said on 26/Feb/09
Can't say I have Ivan, but Glenn saw him in sandals and had his picture taken that day. Glenn was 5'7" in the picture and tip toeing by his own admission. Sly looks every bit of his 5'10.75" claim in it. Here's the picture.
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Christian said on 26/Feb/09
In that scene from Copland there is a 2.5 inch diffirence if they both are standing up straight. Sly is slouching but standing up straight he look about 5'10''. Ray Liotta is 6'
ivan said on 26/Feb/09
Rising Force, have your seen Sly in sandals in front of you?I have a friend who saw him in sandals in California and he says Sly is 5"8 at best more leading towards 5'7.
George said on 26/Feb/09
A 5'8.5to 5'9 guy could easily reach 6'0 in custom elevator shoes. Plus, Sly is pretty buffed and has a wide frame therfore he can still look pretty proportional even when he's elevated a few inches. 5'9 peak for Sly is the maximum and these dayss he's probably 5'8 barefoot.
Danimal said on 26/Feb/09
Okay, Rob didn't post what I wrote. That clip Tellem posted from Copland is NOT the scene I was referring to. I was referring to the scene well into the movie when they both were standing on the street on LEVEL GROUND, both in flip flops and Liotta had a good 4" on Sly. Can anyone find the scene?

Editor Rob
Danimal, half the time you are seemingly submitting the comment twice...your comments are the hardest to keep track of since I forget if I've approved or deleted the duplicates :)
Danimal said on 26/Feb/09
Okay, Rob didn't post what I wrote. That clip Tellem posted from Copland is NOT the scene I was referring to. I was referring to the scene well into the movie when they both were standing on the street on LEVEL GROUND, both in flip flops and Liotta had a good 4" on Sly. Can anyone find the scene?
glenn said on 26/Feb/09
he can look 5-9 flat in photos.no smaller.i dont argue that.
RisingForce said on 26/Feb/09
In some pictures that's true Brad, but once again not all pictures. So don't act like he never looks 5'10"+ in golf shoes.

Here's one that isn't posted much. He's on the golf course with his wife who most of us seem to consider 5'9".
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Obviously he has a big posture advantage, but it certainly doesn't seem like he'd be shorter there.

Here's a picture that hasn't been explained.
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He's almost surely liftless there with the cast on his foot, plus look at how short Sly's legs are compared to Caan's despite that Sly ends up an inch taller there because of his longer torso. That's a great picture because it's a full body shot.

Brad, what about this picture with Jack?
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He looks 5'10.5" there to me as Jack's eye level is about at Sly's nose. The only possible thing throwing off that picture is ground level, but that could be a factor in any of those golf pictures. Both of them have very good posture.

The fact is he's been photographed looking both 5-9ish and 5'10.5" on the golf course so don't act like he never looks close to 5'10.75" on the golf course. That'd be like me saying he never looks around 5'9".
Brad said on 26/Feb/09
Yes George, put him in the golf shoes with Jack, Dennis and James and he's what he is, not even close to 5' 10.75". That Copland clip is killer. Poor Ray, he probably went "uh oh".
RisingForce said on 26/Feb/09
glenn says on 26/Feb/09
who is this ivan guy? stallone has been in front of me for 20 years.in sandals too.a 5-7 man cant look 6ft or more in any lifts.a 5-10 man could.

Exactly. We've seen how tall he can look. Too tall to be a 5'7" man. I've never even seen a good picture where he looks 5'7", or even 5'8" flat for that matter.
CamMan said on 26/Feb/09
I ran into Sly at a polo match in 1985 or 1986 and was shocked at how short he was. I would say 5'7".
glenn said on 26/Feb/09
who is this ivan guy? stallone has been in front of me for 20 years.in sandals too.a 5-7 man cant look 6ft or more in any lifts.a 5-10 man could.
ivan said on 26/Feb/09
You guys are nuts, sly 5"10? gotta be kidding me. You guys are making me crack up. Sly is 5"7 or less. You guys are making him taller. SLY wears the highest lifts in the whole world. How can you people compare sly's height when someone else's heights? it's senseless. It's impossible to do so coz Sly wears huge lifts. How can you guys calculate sly's height? his lifts are like 4 inches or more.
George said on 25/Feb/09
Yes, the golf pics definetely show Stallone is 5'8-5'9 and nothing above.
Mike said on 25/Feb/09
And Honestly we'll prolly never know Sly's true height, Glenn sees him as this solid 5'10 plus man, Frank2 saw a 5'11 to 6 foot shoewear Sly barefoot 5'7 to 5'8, Manum thought Sly was as tall as himself, so there we have the 5'7 to 5'10.5 range, Sly does have Glenn easily beat, but in some photos Sly does look short (exp similiar as Glenn would look like next too) I doubt this will happen but I'd like to see Glenn and Sly's wife in a pic side by side, and see the difference
derek d said on 25/Feb/09
Come on people, stop looking at these pictures with him and Arnold and watch the Copland clip of him in sandals!
Ejel Khan said on 25/Feb/09
Yes, I was mainly referring to his height, when i claimed he was a fake. Sly has had facelifts though, and also wear wigs .... which would make him fake. I've also met and chatted to Carl Weathers (check his celebsheight page for pic with me) who's not a fake, but a lovely man.
Brad said on 25/Feb/09
Great photo Riskman, that's the garbage he puts on his feet. At 5' 10.75" in those monsters he'd be 6' 1"+, not a chance. Liotta has him by 4" in that scene. Yes Derek D, that's reality. Get him off the customs and he's caught. I've said that a 100 times.
RisingForce said on 25/Feb/09
Mickey, the lowest I could see is 5'9" midday/evening height and about 5'9.5"/5'9.75" morning. But obviously I think he's about an inch taller than that. I try to say I think or in my opinion as well but I often forget.
RisingForce said on 25/Feb/09
I don't quite understand your post Zach. 3 inch ehight difference with Arnold doesn't become half an inch. When pictures were posted with Arnold looking 3 inches taller I posted a lot from the same night that showed Arnie only a half inch to an inch shorter. I didn't say Sly had only a half inch in the pictures where Sly looked taller.

I didn't post pictures of Caan and Sly looking even and say Sly looked 2 inches taller. I posted this picture Click Here and said Sly looked a half inch to a inch taller, which he does there.

Why would I include Frank2 and Mamun's estimates in my posts when I'm trying to argue that Sly is atleast 5'10"? That wouldn't make sense considering that doesn't help my argument. I don't deny that they estimated him at that. All I pointed out was that more regular posters(5) saw Sly at atleast 5'9" or 5'10".

So if you want to make a point do it without exaggerating. For the most point I like reading your posts, but you're clearly exaggerating in every part of that entire post.
Kev said on 25/Feb/09
Rising,

I think we all agree that Stallone is a self made millionaire who worked his butt off to get to where he is right now. you can't give him enough credit for that.

but i believe what ejel was referring to was his HEIGHT.
Mickey said on 25/Feb/09
That is true RF, i shouldn't have implied it solely on you, my apologies. Thats why i always try to say "i think" or "in my opinion", probably not a huge deal though. We are only debating someone's height afterall.

RF what is the absolute LOWEST you could see Sly at? Both morning and evening. Absolute bare minimum.
derek d said on 25/Feb/09
WOW. Thanks for posting the Cop Land clip. SLY is 112% liftless there in those simple flip flops. Ray Liotta probably has about an 0.5 inch shoe advantage and appears 3 inches taller at most. Meaning he is around 2.5 inches taller than Sly barefoot, meaning Sly is 5'9 barefoot max... Make sense? Wow seeing that clip was amazing!
RisingForce said on 24/Feb/09
Good point about the scene Mickey, but do I say those figures as facts anymore than Zach acted like Liotta at 5'11.5" was a fact or anymore than Ejel said Liotta at 5'11" was a fact? Zach stated Liotta was 5'11.5", Ejel stated he was 5'11" and I stated he was 6'0". No real difference from what I did.

Ejel, no I don't think Sly is a fake. He made his success as I've said and a self made man is not a fake. He didn't wait for his career to happen, he made sure to make his own success by writing and starring in his own movie. He did not give in and take the easy money that he was offered for the script. He also works very hard to keep himself in such amazing shape and he has for years. So a self made man with a great work ethic is a fake? That's ridiculous. You don't have to like him, but it's absurd not to have some respect for what he's accomplished. Yet somehow to you he's a fake because he's a little vain? Everyone is vain, I have no idea why you continue to call him a fake. It makes me not value your opinion at all on the subject.
TELLEM said on 24/Feb/09
i personally think liotta is 5'11.5, not 6'0...i disclude morning height by the way.
Zach said on 24/Feb/09
None of those are facts Mickey, and all contrary to what they're listed here. All Risingforce sees is a 5'10.75 Stallone. 3 inch height difference with Arnold suddenly becomes half an inch. Dead on height with Caan suddenly becomes a 2 inch difference. Eyewitness accounts mysteriously exclude Mamun and Frank. 5'10.75 or the highway for RF. All the more bewildering considering Sly himself for the most part says 5'10. Everyone has an opinion fine, but flooding and reflooding this page give us a break. It helps this website of course, and would explain why my post last month was delayed for so long, citing a certain poster going all over the internet posting Sly is 5'10.75. This post itself will probably be delayed as posts keep this place alive, even if it means contrary to those who argue with reason as opposed to those with other motives.
Clay said on 24/Feb/09
No one denies Sly gets a huge boost from his shoes, doesnt change the fact he's at least 5'9 barefeet. What was he like an inch, 2 shorter than Vince McMahon in those pics posted? A 5'8 man couldn't do that.
glenn said on 24/Feb/09
you can believe what you want,but i met all these celebs plenty of times.stone is a big girl.5-8.5 to 5-9.liotta looked well over 6ft to me.possibly 6-1.of course that doesnt mean he is 6-1.but he isnt under 6ft.that is true,i never understood the whole hoopla over the liotta stone scene.they are both slouching all over the place.i have to watch it again.been 6 or 7 years.2 to 4 inches depending on the slouch is what i recalled.
TELLEM said on 24/Feb/09
here's the sly and liotta scene: Click Here ...danimal's right 4-5 inches @ 4:16...please watch it...thats no 2 inches even IF sly is slouching...note that liotta's shoes are flat.
TELLEM said on 24/Feb/09
i agree with brad, catch the man at a golf course and he's a liftless 5'8ish man. my friend works at the pebble beach golf course where they do the att golf celeb tournaments and told me sly was shorter than him and my friend is 5'9.
riskman82 said on 24/Feb/09
Look at those shoes...he gets a huge boost from them.
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Ejel Khan said on 24/Feb/09
Risingforce & Danimal are you Sly's agents? C'mon both of you know he's a fake .... don't try to deny it.
RisingForce said on 24/Feb/09
Hey Brad, go watch Rocky Balboa on DVD. You'll see the scene I'm talking about, in shorts and slippers he's 2 inches taller than 5'8.5", 5'9" Milo Ventimiglia and just about 3 inches shorter than 6'2" Antonio Tarver.
RisingForce said on 24/Feb/09
I call it as I see it too. 4 inches would put his head around Ray's eye level. That wasn't even close to that. The top of his head was nowhere near Ray's eyes unless you're talking about when he was walking with his head down.
Mickey said on 24/Feb/09
Its funny that Rising Force just says "Liotta is 6ft, Sharon Stone is 5'8.5"" etc like it is fact, like he has measured them. Sorry RF but celebs do lie, if you wanna believe their claims thats fine, but you have not measured Liotta, so don't try tell us he is 6ft, we are free to believe he is whatever height we think.

In regards to Liotta in copland, there is no shot where they are both standing up wit equal posture. Sly is acting drunk and stumbling around, and Liotta is slouching, swaying, tilting etc to not make Sly look so short(my opinion, but he is slouching, tilting etc). Its hard to take that video seriously as proof on either side.
glenn said on 24/Feb/09
excellent point mike.i just cant picture stallone my height or me looking 6ft or more in lifts.walking at that.
Brad said on 24/Feb/09
Liotta owns Sly big. You catch him and he's dead meat. 4" easy. That flip-flops photo was a top 10 Sly stopper. Just throw up the golf course photos and he's cooked. Caan, Hopper, Nicholson. A guy just under 5' 11" would own these guys CLEAN if he were that height. He can't, he needs golf shoes Munsters, golf Munsters don't exist.
Danimal said on 24/Feb/09
RisingForce says on 22/Feb/09
Ejel Khan says on 22/Feb/09
In one scene in Copland, with Ray Liotta, Sly has flip-flops on. 5'11" Ray appears atleast 3" taller.

First of all Ray is 6 feet. Second of all he had 2 inches max on Sly in that scene.

NO, he DIDN'T. He had at least 3", if not 4" on him. I don't even care if Stallone is 5'6" or 5'11", but I DO call it as I see it. Someone other than RisingForce, please post a STILL of that scene, where Liotta has INCHES on Sly and they are both wearing slippers on even ground.
Mike said on 23/Feb/09
Sly varies too much to judge, hes gotta be inbetween 5'8 to 5'10, I mean some people claim hes over 5'10 or shorter then 5'8...come on, If Sly was anything over 5'10 hed claim 5'11 or 6 no questions asked, but if Sly was really Glenn height or shorter, would he be made into an action star??? Very doubtful (he was in very good shape at the time not jacked though), In recent photographs he checks in 1 inch taller then Willis and 1 inch shorter then Arnold, that makes him look good, but theres alos been pictures with Sly in sneakers and his wife in shoes or little heels and shes got him by 1-2 inches...I mean Sly's silly he can top Willis/close to Arnold but be shorter then his 5'9 wife by 2 inches?? I wonder what Willis and Arnold think of Sly's height
RisingForce said on 23/Feb/09
I was just going to post that a few different regular posters here have met him and agree on 5-10ish. Leung and Glenn seem pretty sure that he's a legit 5-10. Gonzalo also met him and said he looked 5-10.75 in what appeared to be regular sneakers. Others have him in the 5-9 range such as Mr. R who said 5-9 flat I believe and JT I believe said he looked 5-9.5 when he saw him on a golf course.

I'd bet that Sly is still around 5-10 even in the evening. I still maintain that he's 5-10.5, 5-10.75 out of bed.
glenn said on 23/Feb/09
i have met him.dozens of times spanning 20 years.he is 5-10.i see 5-10 men all the time i think are 5-8ish until i get closer.so i make the same mistake too.excellent point on the rocky balboa movie i always knew about.he looked legit 5-10ish in that movie,liftless.
RisingForce said on 23/Feb/09
Sly appears 5'11"+ in most of his movies not 5'9". There are many examples, but one of the easiest will be Lock Up where he was as tall or taller than John Amos who is listed 5'11.25" here.

Ejel, you must be wrong about Carl Weathers being 6'2" peak if you think Sly is only 5'8". Carl was only 3 inches taller than Sly even when Sly was in slippers and flat boxing shoes. So I guess Carl was 5'11" peak and under that now.

By the way in the first Rocky movie Sly is in flat half inch max boxing shoes and Joe Frazier is in big 2+ inch heels and they're about the same height. Frazier was listed at 5'11.5" but he obviously wasn't. Either way there's no way that Joe Frazier was under 5'9" in the 70's meaning Sly is over 5'10".
StalloneFan said on 23/Feb/09
Great analysis guys . . . but I think you guys need to go to LA and meet him and finally you will be convinced that he is around 5'7 - 5'8 (more towards 5'8). He walks around beverly hills all the time and I have met the guy, and he is not 5'10. Anyways, take care guys!
Ejel Khan said on 23/Feb/09
All of you detractors need to understand Sly is the master of manipulation .... he appears above 5'9" in most of his movies, but in reality is only 5'8" .... yes with camera trickery and lifts he can appear anything from 5'10-6', but he aint.
George said on 23/Feb/09
Arnold is 6'0 tops these days and he's taller than Sly when Sly wears his munsters so I would think Sly was 5'9 at his peak and 5'8 these days.
RisingForce said on 23/Feb/09
Rob, I agree with Bam. Atleast upgrade him to 5'9.5".

This is a scene from The Specialist where I believe Sly had boots and Sharon Stone had heels.
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It's unlikely even with lifts that he'd have much of a footwear advantage and even though she's bending a bit, there's no way that she'd be less than 2 inches shorter. Plus she's 5'8.5".
bam said on 23/Feb/09
rob, i know you made a reference to possibly upgrading stallone in the future. Lol, the mans not growing in the future. I would urge you to consider upgrading him soon, or to not even bother. I know you keep deliberating between 5'9 and 5'9.5. The man is the same height as caan, not a hair shorter. And he is at least a full inch taller than milo ventimaglia, Obviously its up to you, and I respect your judgement. Hell, give the man 5'9.25, it may very well be his exact height. (although I'm inclined to say 5'10ish)
bam said on 23/Feb/09
rob is 5'8.5 morning. Do you guys think rob could stand shoulder to shoulder with carl weathers? In all honesty, just look at pics of rob and 6'1 guys. Hell, look at pics of rob and 5'10 guys. Lifts aren't going to change your height. But with flawless posture and standing closer to the camera, you'll look a fair bit taller. 5'10 to 6ft/6ft. Just picture your friends who are 4-5 inches shorter than you looking legitimately the same height as you. Its not gonna happen...
RisingForce said on 23/Feb/09
By the way for those of you who have Rocky Balboa on DVD. Watch it and go to the scene right after the weigh in. Sly is in what appear to be slippers, plus he's in shorts and there are full body shots of him looking atleast 2 inches taller than 5'8.5"-5'9" Milo Ventimiglia.

He also measures up pretty well to 6'2" Antonio Tarver. This may change some people's minds who don't believe he's atleast 5'10". It's pretty convincing, if he had lifts then they would have to bee a half inch or less which would be pretty pointless.
RisingForce said on 23/Feb/09
Chasum, tell 6'4"-6'5" Dolph Lundgren that Sly is unable to reach 6 foot.
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Zach, in that first picture Sly is bending forward and Ray is closer to the camera. In the second picture Liotta would have 3 inches max on Sly even if he straightened up, that's not really towering. 3 inches is significant, but towering would be Dolph Lundgren compared to Sly in Rocky 4. Or even Brian Dennehy compared to Sly in First Blood.
Chasum said on 23/Feb/09
I saw Stallone tonight in person. People were laughing at his footwear which were funny size 14 looking shoes. He is 5' 8" at the most. Rising Force unable to get to 6' is pretty funny, no wonder he writes all day & night about Sly.
glenn said on 22/Feb/09
liotta is at least 6ft.if not a hair more.
Zach said on 22/Feb/09
Danimal says on 22/Feb/09
Ejel Khan says on 22/Feb/09
In one scene in Copland, with Ray Liotta, Sly has flip-flops on. 5'11" Ray appears atleast 3" taller.

Closer to 4". Watched the movie dozens of times.

Absolutely. Closer to 4 inches. The height difference was very evident there. Even in public appearances, 5'11.5 Liotta towers over Sly when caught without his munsters, been posted many times Click Here Click Here despite Liotta bending down slightly to one side in both pics. Put his munsters on and suddenly Sly's around the same height Click Here Proof that his footwear adds more than any other.
RisingForce said on 22/Feb/09
By the way, anyone who has Rocky Balboa on DVD go to the scene right after the weigh in.

I swear Sly is in shorts, you can see his ankles and he seems to be in slippers. Yet he has a minimum 2 inches on 5'8.5"-5'9" Milo Ventimiglia and he measures up well to 6'2" Antonio Tarver. Even in the full body shots he oddly looks a solid 5'10.5"-5'11" here. Anyone who doesn't believe he's atleast 5'10", this may change your mind.
RisingForce said on 22/Feb/09
There's no way that was close to 4 inches between them, unless you're talking about when Sly was walking with his head down walking to his car. Standing there was a 2 inch difference max. Of course someone will look shorter with their head down.
anonymous said on 22/Feb/09
someone said : "In one scene in Copland, with Ray Liotta, Sly has flip-flops on. 5'11" Ray appears atleast 3 inch taller"

It's almost true...: Lyotta is 6 ft and he had shoes !
Danimal said on 22/Feb/09
Ejel Khan says on 22/Feb/09
In one scene in Copland, with Ray Liotta, Sly has flip-flops on. 5'11" Ray appears atleast 3" taller.

Closer to 4". Watched the movie dozens of times.
derek d said on 22/Feb/09
As soon as people see Sly under 5'9 (if he actually is, don't know) they assume he must be 5'8 or even lower.... Which is silly because he very well could be 5'8.5 or even 5'8.75.... A fraction of a inch actually matters and makes a difference. I don't think he is as low as 5'8 but he must be around 5'9, probably that height or a little less or a maybe a little more.
RisingForce said on 22/Feb/09
Ejel Khan says on 22/Feb/09
In one scene in Copland, with Ray Liotta, Sly has flip-flops on. 5'11" Ray appears atleast 3" taller.

First of all Ray is 6 feet. Second of all he had 2 inches max on Sly in that scene.
RisingForce said on 22/Feb/09
I defintley think that picture with De Niro is tilted. Look at what they look like here standing closer together.
Click Here

First there's a visible inch difference there, but then consider that Sly seems to be leaning more and De Niro might be closer to the camera. That picture does back up Sly at 5'10 3/4" and De Niro at 5'9".

Here Sly is hunched over and still atleast as tall as De Niro. Plus the photo seems to be tilted in De Niro's favor.
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Just based on the fact that he's as tall as De Niro with that type of posture leads me to believe he's not the same height. Then factor in the tilt.

But more importantly the first picture where they're much closer together than either of the other pictures shows Sly looking over 5'10".

You're right Glenn, he looked more 5'10" flat than 5'10.75" in Cop Land because 6'3" Michael Rappaport had 5 inches on him. Although some say Rappaport is over 6'3". I also agree that Mr. T is 5'11" and that they made Mr. T look bigger than he was in Rocky 3.

There was one scene where Keitel looked closer Mickey, but in the scene Keitel was closer to the camera. In That scene Sly looked more like an inch or 2 taller. However in the 2 scenes I mentioned Sly had atleast 3 inches on Keitel.

StalloneFan, men over 5'10" often wear lifts. John Wayne was 6'4" and he wore lifts. Leonardo DiCaprio is listed here at 5'11.5" and he told Glenn in person that he wore lifts. Vin Diesel is listed 6'0" here and his footwear is bigger than Sly's. Russell Crowe is listed at 5'10.5" here and he supposedly wears lifts. 5'11" Burt Reynolds wore even bigger heels/lifts than Sly. Brad Pitt is atleast 5'10", possibly 5'11" and we all know he wears lifts. The list goes on.
RisingForce said on 22/Feb/09
Ejel Khan says on 21/Feb/09
Sly is 5'8" without lifts .... ok!

Nope, and we all know you have some against Sly as you're always calling Sly a fake. It's funny that you think Sly is 5'8" yet you think Weathers is 6'2". Weathers had 3 inches MAX on Sly throughout the Rocky movies.

I have to post this again for you.

Sly in slippers next to Carl.
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Sly has a bit of a posture advantage, but the picture was shot from a low angle which favors the taller man(Weathers). That's no more than a 3 inch difference and Sly is in slippers, not elevator shoes, not heels and not even sneakers.

Don't forget that he didn't look much shorter than Carl when they were on the beach and Sly wore these shoes. Click Here

Really flat half inch sneakers, he's wearing shorts, his ankles are in place and there's nothing hidden.

In the ring Sly was never dwarfed by Weathers either. Now look at these pictures from Rocky.
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What's the difference there? An inch and a half or 2 inch difference?

For all of you who think Sly is 5'8", watch Rocky. He looks atleast 5'10" when he wears Converse and he looks like a legit 6 foot when he wears boots.

If he's a 5'8" man then I must not even be 5'5" because I try to look tall and can only pass for 5'10". I'm 5'8", much slimmer than Sly, I have better proportions for looking tall than Sly and I have boots with heels like the ones he wore in Rocky and I can't even come close to looking 6 ft.
Ejel Khan said on 22/Feb/09
In one scene in Copland, with Ray Liotta, Sly has flip-flops on. 5'11" Ray appears atleast 3" taller.
Zach said on 21/Feb/09
Those shoes in Copland definitely look to be on the bulky side, compared to DeNiro's whose footwear looks normal. I didn't actually think Sly wore elevators in Copland but after seeing that comparison by Mickey it seems he has got some advantage. Not an obvious heel but the shoe looks a bit too big all round, a trick he's used on other occasions too: Click Here

Again one of the best comparisons for Deniro and Stallone: Click Here And I dont buy a tilt based on a road (since when are all roads flat) half a mile in the background. If anything, looking at Wepner's shoulders, Sly has the tilt advantage. Personally the pic looks perfectly normal to me, both are same distance from camera, both with very similar posture and both look exactly the same height.
Ejel Khan said on 21/Feb/09
Sly is 5'8" without lifts .... ok!
Christian said on 21/Feb/09
Mr-t looks 1
glenn said on 21/Feb/09
deniro is 5-9. 5-10 peak. mr-t was 5-11 peak.5-10 or less now.anything from rocky isnt good for judgement in height.they are always going to make stallone look shorter than he actually is.i never understood that whole copland thing either.he looked average.5-10.not a hair more.as he can look taller.but certainly not 5-8.
Mickey said on 20/Feb/09
Well if you think Sly's shoes look the same as De Niro's, then more power to you. I certainly don't and the other people on the board can make up their own mind.

De Niro's posture is certainly not equal to Sly's. Sly isn't standing military but De Niro is obviously not close to standing as straight.

I have also seen a scene in Copland where Keital looks fairly close in height to Sly, il try find it.
StalloneFan said on 20/Feb/09
I stood right next to Stallone and he is about 5'7-5'8, which is still a decent height. I mean by no means is he "short", he's just average barefoot. I'm not dissing him or anything, he was super nice and a very cool guy, but trust me he is not 5'10. Since the 80s everyone has known that he enhances his height, if he really was a solid 5'9 / 5'10 then why would he wear lifts? I've come to realize that alot of heights in hollywood are fake . . . but Stallone is still the man though, nice guy to meet.
Brad said on 20/Feb/09
Same height as DeNiro. Probably the bigger wedge inside.
TELLEM said on 20/Feb/09
sly and mr. t: Click Here sly is obviously shorter next to a 5'10 man.
RisingForce said on 20/Feb/09
De Niro's shoes look as thick as Sly's. I have atleast 3 pairs of shoes thicker than the ones Sly is wearing. As far as my picture with De Niro well his posture isn't that bad, Sly's poster is loose too.

There's also a scene in the movie when Sly's character tells Harvey Keitel's character's wife in the movie to not dump her garbage on someones lawn and as he's walking away Harvey Keitel approaches him and surprisingly when Keitel and Sly are talking Keitel is atleast 3 inches shorter. There's another scene where Sly's character is looking through pictures and he comes across pictures of him and Harvey Keitel and in the pictures Keitel is shorter by a similar amount, maybe 3 inches. I always thought Keitel was 5-8, but I guess the 5-7.5 he's listed at here is more accurate.
Mickey said on 20/Feb/09
Sly wore some dodgy looking thick shoes in copland

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I sure do not have shoes like that. They might not by 3 inch monsters but they clearly a large, could be a 2-2.5 inch lift. Notice the large heel section and the steep gradient of the shoe.
Also in that pic of yours De Niro is tilting his body. Sorry but their posture is not equal.
RisingForce said on 20/Feb/09
By the way, everyone always talks about Cop Land as the movie where he was finally liftless and how he looked short in the movie. I just watched it again and compared Sly's height whenever he was next to someone with a fairly well known height and he still looked 5'10" throughout the movie.

Here is Sly in a scene from the movie with 5'9" Robert De Niro
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I see about an inch and a half between them. De Niro is closer to the camera and still visibly shorter.
RisingForce said on 20/Feb/09
Brad, you still don't make any sense. For him to look 6'2" even at 5'10.75" he'd need about shoes over 4" because you need to reach atleast 6'3" in shoes to look 6'2", unless everyone else is barefoot. Which would be highly unlikely at a red carpet event.

In regular sneakers he'd look 5'10.75" unless everyone else was barefoot as well.
Brad said on 19/Feb/09
Ruler of Khan, I bow down to you. Stallonefan of course he is just under 5' 11", he's over 6' in regular sneakers and near 6' 2" in customs in every motion picture/TV/red carpet. Uhhh, okay, he isn't.
JeffC said on 19/Feb/09
As a stated before on this site I have a friend of mine who is exactly 5'9.5 and took a picture with Sly. I asked him if he was short & he told me he was his height, my friend wears flat shoes with an 1 inch heel so with shoes he is 5'10.5. Now I pretty sure Sly must have been wearing his lifts. 5'10.5 -2.5= 5'8.
Ejel Khan said on 19/Feb/09
The pics with Hopper & Nicholson prove he's 5'8-9",and not the 5'10-11", he claims to be!
Zach said on 19/Feb/09
StalloneFan did you stand right next to him? As you say from a distance he looks tall.
StalloneFan said on 19/Feb/09
Brad . . . there is no way that Stallone is 5'10 3/4 . . . i guarantee it!
Ejel Khan said on 19/Feb/09
Let's petition Sly the fake .... now!
Mickey said on 19/Feb/09
I see, all good.
RisingForce said on 19/Feb/09
They were both listed as different images on Getty Images Mickey.
Mickey said on 18/Feb/09
While I have shown pictures of the same night with Arnie looking a few inches taller, i've noticed that Rising does sometimes posts 2-4 of the same pictures in the same post. Why is it you do that? Pictures 1 and 3 in your last post are absolutely indentical. If its by mistake then thats fine, but i've noticed you do it before.
Brad said on 18/Feb/09
Tell that to the people on this site who say he is 5' 10 and three quarters high Stallonefan.
RisingForce said on 18/Feb/09
Yeah james, he was taller than Douglas

Ben, that's an odd pose look at all of these other pictures of Sly and Arnie from the same day.

In full body shots he's maybe half an inch max shorter than Arnold
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Arnold's shoes look suspicious too. Zach noticed this as well.
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Half an inch shorter than Arnold here again
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Here Sly has loose posture and Arnie is standing straighter yet Sly is 1 inch max shorter.
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Here Arnie is closer to the camera, but only an inch taller.
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Here Arnie is standing straight but only half an inch taller than Sly who is slouching
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The Ben said on 18/Feb/09
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A recent pic of sly and Arnold, Did somebody forget their lifts?
StalloneFan said on 17/Feb/09
I know exactly how tall Sly is . . . I met him in LA last year. Unfortunately I dont have those fancy camera phones or I would've taken a picture, but I estimate his height to be around 5'7 - 5'8. I am 5'10 and I was wearing about 1/2 sandals and he was slightly shorter than . . . he was wearing bulky looking workout shoes. There is no way he is 5'10 barefoot . . . not possible. But from a distance he seems "tall" because he has great posture and walks like a robot, barely bending his knees. If he seems taller in photos, it's probably because of camera tricks or the guys he stands next to are probably lying about their height by at least 1-2 inches.
DejaVu said on 17/Feb/09
He looks every bit 5'9 next to 6'1 Carl Weathers. Click Here
Ejel Khan said on 17/Feb/09
Sly's height page must be the most controversial one of all. Almost everday someone's got something to say about it! C'mon guys let's petition Sly to admit his true height, without lifts.
glenn said on 17/Feb/09
sure.its possible dural.it was somewhat covered.not like those on the site.i studied him in his dress shoes,ankles in place look 6ft.so,i figured he would have to be in the 5-10ish region to achieve that.i studied him in all kinds of footwear.he has the body of a 5-10 man to me.when cruise achieves 5-9,5-10.it doesnt look right.stallone looks it natural.
Brad said on 16/Feb/09
Those boots Sly wore have at least 3". I pulled a pair of Doc Martins off a shelf yesterday and 2" easy was on the heel area, another 1" could easily be wedged in and these were low cut! Elevator sandals, you can see Sly fitting for those.
Dural said on 16/Feb/09
Thanks Brad, 5'8.5" seems realistic to me. 6' in his biggest custom-made monsters.
Glenn, is it possible Sly was in some elevator sandals when you met him?
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What Sly told us about height... said on 16/Feb/09
Sly told us that real Height doesn't matter...it's only the height you look or you seem that does matter...And how your body fit this Height.

Of course, you can use lifts or whatever you want to help...because nobody ( or perhaps only your kids and your wife) will ever know your real height.

So your height with great posture and Lifts is more important than your real Height.

The story of sly is all about That : Going the distance...no matter what ! His battle against The Years is even more spectacular than his will to appear taller than he is...
RisingForce said on 16/Feb/09
I agree Glenn. 5-10.5 or 5-10.75 out of bed hence the claims. 5-10 flat by the evening or maybe midday.

There are a ton of variables in that last picture with Jennifer. She's slouching, but also closer to the camera. How much do her heels add? Does Sly have anything in his boots? ect. Really not a good picture.
glenn said on 16/Feb/09
yeah,but they saw him at 5-7.way below reality.no offence.stallone isnt 5-11 either.he is around 5-10.might wake up higher.
George said on 16/Feb/09
On that photo with Jack Nicholson they look the same height and on that other pic from the same day it does look like Sly's ankle is a little high in those golf shoes. I always thought Sly was 5'9 but judging from these photos I think he is more like 5'8.5 max and with his customs he reaches a little over 6'.
derek d said on 15/Feb/09
Anonymous says on 15/Feb/09
what do u think of this pic with jen???

jen is slouching and sly is shorter than her.... bye

Anonymous - Sly is actually not shorter than her in that picture, he is taller. And yes if she stood up straight she would be taller, but come she is 5'9 and wearing 3 - 4 inch heels give him a break lol. People should get their facts straight before posting but yea I'm still for 5'9 for Sly, no shorter. 5'8.75 at the worst, a height i've never actually heard anyone here mention for him. Theres more heights for Sly other than either 5'8 and 5'10.75 you know.
Brad said on 15/Feb/09
5' 9" if he does an "effect". 5' 8.5" at the height gauge by a Doc. He isn't less than 5' 8.5". He isn't over 5' 9". He wears very expensive custom shoes with built in height. Get him in barefeet or golf shoes with a Jack Nicholson, James Caan or Dennis Hopper and he's revealed. Forget about the movie stuff, barefeet & golf shoes work. Frank2 & Mamun have seen him at well under 5' 11".
RisingForce said on 15/Feb/09
Anonymous, Jennifer isn't initially coming out taller in that picture. She might if she stood up straight, but to say she's still taller despite her slouching isn't correct. Her eye level is a lot lower and she's closer to the camera. If all things were equal as far as camera and posture, she'd probably be taller there though.

Obviously that's a bad picture for comparing for numerous reasons. Sly's boots aren't that unusual there though, certainly they aren't big enough to be called munster boots.
Anonymous said on 15/Feb/09
what do u think of this pic with jen???

jen is slouching and sly is shorter than her.... bye

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Mike said on 15/Feb/09
Sly really does look all over the place, I mean there are several pics of his 5'9 wife being taller in him (she could be in heels but still) but then other times hes an inch taller then 5'11/6 Willis, he can get between .5 of an inch to 3 of Arnold (6) and was pretty close to Denzel (6)...if you put those 3 near his wife no way there shorter I dont think
Mike said on 15/Feb/09
He Brad I know you have Sly at 5'8.5, so your basically saying hes 5'8 min 5'9 max correct?? What do you think of people that think hes 5'7 or about 5'11, I say the worst Sly could be is 5'8.25 the best is up to/close to 5'10, I know its about a 2 inch gap but still, I really cant see Sly under 5'8 or over 5'10
Brad said on 15/Feb/09
He'd be around Claudia's height if he were near 5' 11". Jen is almost 6' 1" in heels there. Sly 1.5" shorter in munster boots. I bet people laughed when they saw him in those suckers. I should go in there tomorrow and ask. Hey Little One, he's listed at 5' 9" above, that's what is important. If it went to 5' 10.75" Sly would send roses.
little one said on 15/Feb/09
haven't visited this site since october. glad to see we are no closer to surmising Mr Stallone's true height.
Ejel Khan said on 15/Feb/09
Sly was always trying to make himself taller in the 70's & 80's with heeled boots, and now with mega-lifts. He's a fake .... end of!
RisingForce said on 15/Feb/09
Yeah dural, but cowboy boots are not the same thing as elevator shoes. I often wear cowboy boots with big heels, most of them have 2 inch heels. Mine are about 1/16 of an inch under 2 inches.
RisingForce said on 14/Feb/09
Thanks for the compliments Mickey. However I don't think Sly is tricky like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt as far as footwear, I think he's a lot more obvious like Robert Downey Jr. and Vin Diesel. I have provided examples of Sly where he appears to be liftless looking atleast 5-10ish with guys like Dolph Lundgren and Carl Weathers and then pictures where he appears to be in elevator shoes where he looks 2 to 3 inches closer to their height. That's what convinces me, because that's exactly how I'd expect him to look at 5-10+ next to those guys.

I think that you've done a good job in proving that he can look as low as 5-9 flat or perhaps even a hair under on quite a few ocassions so his height truly all over the place. In many of the shorter pictures I can see what could very well be throwing them off, but there are a few that puzzle me.

Another thing that I have to say convinces me was the picture from 1991 with Glenn where Glenn says Sly was wearing sandals. Sly dwarfs Glenn who was 5-7 at the time. The fact that Glenn has also met him close to 20 times I believe and saw him looking atleast 5-10 in sandals, 6-1 in lifts ect. is the type of stuff that convinces me. Glenn seems convinced that Sly is not around his height and with his photo evidence it seems pretty convincing to me personally.

What proves Sly's height is all over the place is that quite a few regular posters here have him as a legit 5'10" or a bit over and an equal amount have him at a flat 5'9" or a bit under. Even Rob says his opinion on Sly changes daily and he's unsure if he's 5'9" or 5'9.5". I honestly think that the 5'7" is incredibly unlikely especially since there is little to no visual evidence to support that.

Ejel, I don't see how Sly was caught with Janice. If mid-stride pictures were definitive proof then the pictures I posted and Mickey posted of Kurt Russell and Sly walking wouldn't have varied so much.
TELLEM said on 14/Feb/09
look at that pic with wesley snipes. sly is nowhere near 5'10.
derek d said on 14/Feb/09
With all of this talk about the best picture we have on here that reveals Sly's real height, I still think it is the barefoot one with Claudia Schiffer. Just look at it, their both barefoot standing right next to each other, no bad angles, no trick shots and she is listed 5'11 everywhere. He looks just about 5'9 with her, no more and no less. That is the best picture to judge his height in my opinion.
Brad said on 14/Feb/09
Great photos Dural. In those massive ones next to Richard we are supposed to believe he is 6' 2" by people on this site. The laughter is all over. I met Dreyfuss, he's like really short. Look at him with Hopper. Even at Laker games he has to walk funny. Poor guy, why doesn't he just wear regular shoes? Yes Mr. Khan, you are correct. He Rising, I think everybody is sure he was wearing elevators in '76. Milo doesn't wear Stallone monsters. Pitt recently is wearing gigantic munsters, real Stallone types.
Dural said on 14/Feb/09
Rising, I think it doesn't have to do something with "Sly takes golf pretty seriously". He knows other celebs are around and photos will be taken. If you put a little lift in your shoes, it shouldn't prevent you from playing golf. Of course 3in lifts would, but that's obviously not the case.
Regarding the Hopper pic, it doesn't seem Sly is slouching or has pavement disadvantage.
In opposite to other people in the 70's, Sly was always in big heeled shoes.
Frank2 met him before '85 as far as I remember and said Sly was always in big heeled cowboy boots.
Doug said on 14/Feb/09
OMG the last pic you can tell those shoes have like 4 inch lifts in them!!!! Look at the way his feet are in the shoes!!! Even if he was taking them out of his shoes they wouldn't be that HIGH!!
Ejel Khan said on 14/Feb/09
Sly's finally caught out, with Janice Dickenson. There's a god after all! Thankyou.
RisingForce said on 14/Feb/09
Dural, don't take this the wrong way but I think you're making something out of nothing with that first picture. I doubt he has lifts in his golf shoes, from what I've heard he takes golf pretty seriously. Lifts would defintley affect his golf swing.

As far as the picture with hopper, well look at the backround. It defintley seems to me that the picture is tilted or the pavement is uneven. I don't think this is tilting it too much in Sly's favor. Click Here There he looks 2-3 inches taller and it appears Sly is slouching.

There's also this picture of Sly and Jack where Sly looks about 2 inches taller. Click Here I think Jack is 5'9" by the way.

As far as the picture of Sly and Pele, that's most likely uneven ground. Watch Victory, Sly is 2-3 inches taller than Pele in the movie and not much shorter than Michael Caine in it.

In the second to last picture that seems like it's from the 70's. Don't forget that the style was big heels for men and women. I forgot this too until Glenn reminded me when I linked a picture of Sly's black boots with big heels from Rocky. Heels and elevator shoes are different though. Many tall men in the 70's wore big heels, I even remember 6'4" Clint Eastwood wearing big heels in a movie, I think it was The Gauntlet.

From what I understand Sly went to that shoemaker Di Fabrizio in 1985 once he started dating Brigitte Nielsen. I'm not sure if that's when he decided to start wearing elevator shoes or not, or if that's just when he switched to the shoemaker. However Di Fabrizio did make it sound like the reason Sly had him make shoes for him was because he was dating Brigitte at the time. It'd make sense if that's when he decided big heels weren't enough and started getting elevator shoes made for him because he did look taller after 1985. Even if you compare him from First Blood to Rambo 2 he looks taller. Of course that's nothing more than speculation though, he could have been wearing lifts in his boots since the 60's for all we know.
Mickey said on 14/Feb/09
Rising you post some good arguements, i admire your passion. But here are a few of my thoughts.

About the shoes he was wearing with Luke Perry. I've seen a trillion different brands/shoes with that design, Converse are not the only shoe that looks like that. Also it wouldn't be too hard for a shoe designer who gets paid big dollars by a millionaire movie star to make a shoe look like that. Get me a side angle/better angle of the shoe and then i'll start taking that picture more seriously.

About the "on the beach pic in runners". Again its only absurd for you to think he is in lifts. Get me a better shot of the shoes at a better/closer angle and then i will start taking that picture more seriously. Im not saying 100% they are lifts, but there is a chance for sure. Showing me a front on picture from quite a distance of shoes is not conclusive evidence that that are not lifts. Also, Jennifer, who might be less than 5'9", is barefoot, whilst those shoes probably give Sly 1.25" over barefoot(if they are not lifts, they are certainly not flat), couple that with Sly's military posture and you can see why Sly is 2 or so inches taller then her in that pic, she does have camera advantage i admit. We don't know what they are standing on either.

Sly almost never looks 5'10" in normal shoes to me. I proved this when i showed you pictures of Sly(in heeled shoes/lifts) and Bruce Willis(in sandels), and there was at least a 2 inch height gap. I also proofed this when i showed you Sly looking same height as 5'8.5" Jack Nicholson, and Sly had camera advantage.

You can bring up all the people that saw Sly at 5'10" in what looked to be normal shoes and it won't make a difference to me. There are equal amount that have seen Sly at 5'7"-5'8", so we just go in circles.

In regards to the Milo pictures, your meaning to tell me Milo is going to be in massive 3 inch lifts like Sly? No chance. He could be in lifts, we can't tell, but not massive 3 inches like Sly, hence why Sly looks taller, adding in camera advantage, adding in Sly's superior posture.

I don't mean any illwill or bitterness, but these are factors that are applicable, or could be applicable to those photos and situations. Im not pulling them out of thin air.
Dural said on 14/Feb/09
Here's stallone in the same outfit he was posing with Hopper. You can see his ankle is a little high. Probably 1in hidden lifts.
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Now compare him with 5'7" (at least I think so) Dennis Hopper and 5'8" Nicholson.
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Then we have Hopper and Nicholson together
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Sly and Wesley Snipes, who I think is 5'8.5", leaning a bit forward
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Sly and Pele. To be honest I don't think Pele is taller, but the pic gives the impression.
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If you don't see him barefoot or in shorts
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you can be 99% certain he has elevators on. In the second pic he slips almost out of his shoes.
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RisingForce said on 14/Feb/09
Milo is about half an inch shorter than Sly there, but I'd say Milo is atleast 5'9" out of bed(I consider someone's true height their morning height). Plus Milo is closer to the camera so it's not a stretch to say Sly was probably atleast an inch taller that night.

Now compare them at the other Rocky Balboa premiere. Both of them seemed to be in elevator shoes again.
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Granted, he's standing a little behind Sly in the last picture, but you don't get the impression that they'd be about the same height.

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Here is another picture of Sly and Milo.
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I'm unsure of Milo's footwear in that last picture. Sly seemed to be in elevator shoes that day though.
DejaVu said on 14/Feb/09
He looks similar to height with Milo Ventmiglia who is 174cm listed on this site.
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This guy wears elevators 24/7 who would guess how many height he has hidden under those shoes.
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derek d said on 13/Feb/09
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Here is some behind the scenes of Sly and Hogan from Rocky 3... Maybe it will show a more accurate comparison between the both of them with out all of the trick camera shots/angles.
RisingForce said on 13/Feb/09
Rob, by the way here's the picture of Glenn and Sly from 1991.
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Glenn and Bam have requested that one as well so it'd be a good one to add.
RisingForce said on 13/Feb/09
Danimal, I remember that scene. That's before Rocky punches the meat in front of the reporter. I'm 95% Burt Young was on a step in that scene, I could be wrong but I'll check the scene again. Plus whenever Rocky trained he wore flat half inch Converse shoes while Burt wore boots throughout a lot of the movie.

Good point Anonymous and don't forget that Sly even said he slimmed down to 163 pounds to enhance the David vs Goliath imagery for Rocky 3.
Brad said on 13/Feb/09
That photo with Janice is just killer.
Chaz said on 13/Feb/09
He is 174cm about 5'8.5''that is what both he's ex wife's say,and I think they should know.
Anonymous said on 13/Feb/09
i wouldn't use rocky 3 as evidence, hogan was billed at 7ft and 390lb in that movie so no doubt they used every trick in the book to make hogan "look" a seven footer in that movie just like they did with michael clarke duncan in green mile, he probably had 3-4 inch lifts in his boots, lets see photos of sly and hogan in street clothes in 1981
scotty said on 13/Feb/09
It is funny because most people will say he really is only 5'6-5'7 I think that may be a tad low, but I think a persona of a big tough guy can be deceiving as well.
Zach said on 13/Feb/09
RisingForce says on 12/Feb/09

Hogan can say whatever he wants, but I doubt he went around asking Burt Young, Mr. T and Carl Weathers how tall they were and then comparing them to Sly.

Right. So the only way of knowing people's height is by asking them direct, yep nice one. By Rocky 3 Burt Young, Mr T, Carl Weathers were already established actors, there'd be profiles, magazine articles, resumes etc etc. Not even sure why I'm even having to point this out, a little bit of common sense will tell anyone this. The guy's not stupid that he needs to be spoonfed every fact, go on to youtube and watch some of his interviews, he's not quite the lumbering brainless oaf that many people naively perceive him to be.

Simple fact with Hogan is he saw Sly next to 5'10.5 Mr T and 5'7/8 Burt Young and gave a plain estimate of Stallone being 5'8. A long, long way off 5'10.75 or even 5'9.5. By the time Hogan wrote his autobiography he'd already again worked closely with Mr T at Wrestlemania 1 - a legit 5'10.5er yet still estimated 5'8 for his good friend Stallone whom he saw directly in action with his own eyes against 5'10.5 Mr T Click Here

And considering they were training/fighting on set for such a time, its also very likely he also saw Sly barefeet. After all this, Hogan's estimate for Stallone: 5'8
Mr. R. said on 13/Feb/09
Danimal, that is Burt Young, not Burgess Meredith.
bam said on 13/Feb/09
i would bet money he isn't shorter than caan, especially in the pic where stallone is wearing a cast.
Danimal said on 12/Feb/09
Sly and MAX 5'8" Burgess Meredith in 1975: Click Here
Danimal said on 12/Feb/09
miko says on 12/Feb/09
Here is the Hogan/Stallone video from 2005.

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Check it out at 2:04, it clear as day shows the top of Stallone's head comes directly in line with Hogans eyes. So face to face, no advantages, Stallone is roughly 5" shorter than Hogan.

Hogan is around 6"3 today, add his 1.5" footwear (or less) and you get about 6"4.5, which sounds fine.

That would make Stallone 5"11.5 or 6"0 in his 3" munsters, subtract that and you get 5"9, give or take 0.5" each way.

Compare that to a 6'6" 1981 Hogan and a Sly who didn't really where those MUNSTERS back then. Hogan must have had 9-10" on Sly in the early 80's and it was evident in the footage of them together at that time.
RisingForce said on 12/Feb/09
Zach, that picture is not great for height comparison. For one they're in mid-stride and it became obvious how much mid-stride pictures can vary when I took stills of Kurt Russell and Sly walking barefoot and Mickey did as well. Sly and Janice are clearly in different parts of their strides so that doesn't prove Janice is taller at all.

Hogan can say whatever he wants, but I doubt he went around asking Burt Young, Mr. T and Carl Weathers how tall they were and then comparing them to Sly. Hulk also said Kevin Nash is 7'2", should we believe that as well?

miko, there's also this picture where Sly has no advantage(other than footwear) and looks just 3.5", 4" shorter.
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Lifts on the beach does sound absurd Mickey, especially when it's not a photo shoot considering he's been photographed barefoot on the beach several times.

If Jennifer was the same height or taller instead of Sly being 2 inches taller in this picture Click Here then nobody would have mentioned Sly possibly being in lifts in these shoes Click Here

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Look on the Converse website. You'll find very similar looking shoes. Nobody mentioned those as shoes possibly with lifts until I posted these pictures from the same day.
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They looked like flat shoes to everyone before I posted those pictures that suggested he could be 5'10.5" and to me they still look like flat shoes. Perry was measured at around 5'10" on the Howard Stern show in socks and Sly is atleast a half inch taller there.

That's a problem, if Sly looked 5'9" or shorter in all of these pictures I posted then nobody would say absurd things like he has lifts on the beach, or lifts in his slippers or lifts in Converse shoes. If those pictures showed him 5'9" or shorter then people would say "In these are pictures that he's liftless he looks 5'9", what does that tell you?" The fact is that in many(not all) but many of the pictures where his footwear doesn't look suspicious at all he looks 5'10"+. And the other fact is that in his 3" elevator shoes he can look 6'1"+. That tell me he's a legit 5'10"+ guy who can give a shorter imrpession because his unusually long torso/unusually short legs, unusually long arms and muscular build. Sure he's been photographed looking 5'9" flat, but who hasn't been photographed looking shorter than they are?
TELLEM said on 12/Feb/09
just like tom cruise, sly loves dating women taller than him :)
Brad said on 12/Feb/09
Just look at him with Janice. He got caught.
DejaVu said on 12/Feb/09
Sly is really a master in looking tall with his average height. Kudos for the pic and the analysis Zach. I have always thought 5'10 for sly but now I think he is probably in the 5'9 range.
miko said on 12/Feb/09
Here is the Hogan/Stallone video from 2005.

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Check it out at 2:04, it clear as day shows the top of Stallone's head comes directly in line with Hogans eyes. So face to face, no advantages, Stallone is roughly 5" shorter than Hogan.

Hogan is around 6"3 today, add his 1.5" footwear (or less) and you get about 6"4.5, which sounds fine.

That would make Stallone 5"11.5 or 6"0 in his 3" munsters, subtract that and you get 5"9, give or take 0.5" each way.
Ejel Khan said on 12/Feb/09
Zach, thanks for that pic. You have finally and definately proven, Sly's actual height, without lifts. I can't believe, he's so small! In that pic, he's atleast 3" shorter than Janice Dickenson.
Mickey said on 12/Feb/09
I don't think Sly is above wearing lifts on the beach, he wears them everywhere else. You can say its absurd to think that, but i can then say its absurd to think Sly is 5'10". It doesn't matter anyway, here we have a picture of Sly and Jennifer where they are most likely barefoot(if Sly is wearing shoes in this picture then he is in a bit of trouble). With Jennifer who might or might not be 5'9" standing taller, notice the arch in her back also.

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Also how do you know Sly is in converse in the Luke Perry pic? I know we can sort of see his shoes when he is posing with the basketball player on the same night but i dont see any converse symbols on his shoes. All i see are a pair of white shoes which are mostly concealed. We can't even see the heel. They very well could be lifts, theres nothing to say they are or aren't.
Zach said on 12/Feb/09
Hogan clearly did say 5'8, its in black and white in his book. And before people start throwing around the fallacy of a theory that Hogan cant estimate at his height, Hogan's own height wasn't the only reference point on set for comparison. He was on set for months able to see Stallone next to 5'7/8 Burt Young, 5'10.5 Mr T, 5'4 Talia Shire, 5'5, Burgess Meredith 6'1 Weathers etc. They've also been great friends for years (both before and after his autobiography) so there's no malice intended either, simply an observation. I believe Frank also said Sly was a great guy in person, very funny.

Rob, here's a legit 5'9.5er (by her own admission) with Sly rarely in normal trainers. If they both stand straight its pretty clear Janice stands taller Click Here
RisingForce said on 12/Feb/09
Thanks Bam, I defintley don't see how some people still say he's under 5'9".

Anyone who still can't see the ground advantage in the Arnold picture is a lost cause. Neither of standing straight either, look at their knees which are bent, but I guess when you believe something crazy like Sly being 5'8" then I guess you have to use pictures like that. Go ask Rob if he thinks they're standing straight enough or if the ground is even. I bet he'll notice what I did.

The idea of lifts on the beach is pretty absurd. If it was a photo shoot then that would be one thing, but it certainly doesn't appear to me. He most likely didn't have lifts in Converse in the Luke Perry pictures either.

Honestly this is the best picture of Sly and Hulk, this one he doesn't have the big camera advantage.
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He isn't more than 4 inches shorter there though and Hulk at 6-3.5 would be pushing 6-5 in shoes. The difference could be more like 3.5 as well since Sly's head comes up to about Hulk's eyebrow or just above.

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Sly's shoes Click Here

Danimal, as you know Arnold has lost a good deal of height, possibly 2 inches, so that contributes quite a bit to Sly getting closer to Arnold's height. Maybe his elevator shoes are a little bigger now as well.
Brad said on 12/Feb/09
I've met Andy Garcia and Nicholson being an inch shorter fits perfect. 5' 9" for Jack is at the McGovern For President rally in '72.
Tommy said on 11/Feb/09
I got a hold of Hogan's book. You weren't lying, he says he is 5' 8". I don't doubt it looking at him in those big shoes trying to get taller. 5' 9" is accurate with great posture, anything more is just not real.
Ejel Khan said on 11/Feb/09
Sly is lucky to get a 5'9" rating, he's 5'8", without generous lifts!
Brad said on 11/Feb/09
Poor Sly, knew he was going to be photo-op'd with the Hulkster. Brought out the munsters. Must have read his book where he said Sly was 5' 8"..
miko said on 11/Feb/09
Matt that photo with Hogan means nothing, watch the 2005 Hall of Fame video where they go face to face and we see the 5" gap + munsters.
matt said on 11/Feb/09
Stallone keeps growing and growing:

He's almost as tall as Hulk Hogan now

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Danimal said on 10/Feb/09
Arnold had at least 3-4" on Sly up until the late 90's. WHAT HAPPENED!!!????

MANY people on Click Here believe that Sly had leg lengthening surgery a few years ago which would account for his INCREASED height in almost ALL pictures. Apparently it's quite common surgery in Europe and Asia.
Mickey said on 10/Feb/09
Even if they are sneakers on the beach rising, I don't doubt that they could have lifts in them. Doesn't mean monster 3 inch lifts though. But a shot of his shoes from a bad angle and from a fair distance cannot show that they are "flat", that goes in regards to the Luke Perry picture.
Brad said on 10/Feb/09
Mickey is correct. A 5' 10.75" guy wouldn't be made fun of. The last time Nicholson was 5' 9" was when Nixon was in office. Keep looking at the 5' 9" figure above Rising, it isn't going to 5' 10 and 3 quarters anytime soon. Arnold is just eating Sly up at the pig roast. Both in flat shoes. Like I really see much in the dirt advantage. Sly wants to get on those 3.5" customs next to him.
Tommy said on 10/Feb/09
You must be kidding that Sly is 5' 10" with Arnold at that barbbque. He looks 5' 8". There isn't much difference in "higher" ground. Sly is much much shorter.
TELLEM said on 10/Feb/09
jack isn't 5'9 flat. look at him with 5'9 andy garcia in the golf course. he's about an inch shorter than him and that was nearly ten years ago.
RisingForce said on 10/Feb/09
When did I say 5'9.5" for Nicholson in 2009? I said he once was that(which is what Rob lists him at), now I think Jack is a flat 5'9".

I'm confident that Sly is 5'10" and change. The fact that you think Sly is in the same height range as Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr. is funny. That's so off that you need pictures like the one with Arnold on higher ground to try to justify it.
Brad said on 10/Feb/09
Subtract from every Rising figure and you get accurate heights. Nicholson at 5' 9.5" in 2009 is the first laugher. Look at Sly looking up at the baby. He got caught. Last time I checked it said 5' 9" for Stallone above, only a 1/2" effect off my figure. Go tell your just under 5' 11" to the site owner, at least it is 5' 9" there.
leonari said on 10/Feb/09
Janice is a crazy person. Go watch some interviews with her on youtube.
bam said on 10/Feb/09
rising, your pics are amazing. The man is 5'10. I see rob upgrading sly by 1/2 inch in the near future. Rob, would you consider it please? After all at worst, sly is the same height as Caan,and his 5'10.75 claim would be in shoes. Editor rob, what do you think?

Editor Rob
my opinion on sly changes daily, 5ft 9-9.5 I could list him nearer 5ft 9.5 for sure, maybe one day that will happen.
RisingForce said on 10/Feb/09
Besides the picture you're referring to also seemed to be them walking around town, not on the beach where he had those black shoes. And he wasn't wearing chunky elevator shoes in my picture, they were sneakers, he wasn't wearing socks and he was wearing shorts on the beach. Lifts are very unlikely.

I'm still laughing at Brad taking that picture of Arnold visibly standing on lower ground seriously. That and the fact neither were even standing straight. That proved once again that nothing he says regarding Sly's height is to be taken seriously.
RisingForce said on 10/Feb/09
Well that just proves my point even more about Janice. Jack Nicholson is or was in the 5-9, 5-9.5 range. Hoffman claims 5-5 3/4 and Williams claims 5-7. So Janice lumping them all together makes no sense when Jack is or was dead on average.

Who knows who Janice would call short or laugh at about their height? You think Sly is 5-9 right Mickey? Well a 5-9 person wouldn't get laughed at by their height by a normal person either, 5-9 is average height and so is 5-10. Besides to 5-9.5 model who wears heels, Sly in most footwear would probably not seem any taller to here, even at 5-10.5. As others have mentioned Janice also probably knows that gets under Sly's skin. Don't forget most women, especially tall women seem to think that any man around their height, is their height or shorter. That's how you get several women claiming Arnold is 5-4 or 5-5.

Stop being absurd Brad, you can see Arnold is standing on higher ground, it's giving him an advantage of what seems like several inches.

If ground level doesn't matter then fine.
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I can use bad pictures as well if you can. You see what ground level can do? In fact even though I'm assuming the ground level is off in that picture, it's not as obvious as it is in the other picture where you can actually see the difference in the ground they're standing on.

That picture is pathetic.

In reality, Arnold has never had more than 4 inches MAX on Sly.
Mickey said on 9/Feb/09
Yes Rising i think he "may" be wearing lifts in that beach picture. He has been seen before wearing massive black lifts on the beach while Jennifer was in sandels.

The funny thing about Janice is that she lumped Sly in the short catagory with Dustin Hoffman, while Robin Williams and Jack Nicholson(who are not tall) were not. She also mentioned how she had to laugh how short he was. Im sorry but a 5'10.75" man would not get laughed at for being short.
reggie said on 9/Feb/09
5-8.5 by nightfall
Anonymous said on 9/Feb/09
Not only arnold is on a higher ground but Arold was 6 Ft and 1 Inch in the 90's...

Sly stills at least 5.9 to me...176 cm in the morning.
Brad said on 9/Feb/09
Arnie in boat shoes 5" taller. That fits. Sly looks real short with a 6' 2" guy. I let other people comment on your pictures, most are wedged up customs he has on. Let him stare at the baby from way below.
RisingForce said on 9/Feb/09
Anonymous says on 9/Feb/09
what u think about it....

Arnold is visibly on higher ground. By the way when did Brigitte say 5'9"? She also seems to have said 5'10". Honestly who cares what Janice says, she didn't even specify what she means by short. To a 5'9.5" woman, a 5'10.5" man would seem short.

Brad, you never have an answer for the pictures I post. He's not under 5'9" even at the lowest point of the day.
Anonymous said on 9/Feb/09
what u think about it....

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Brad said on 9/Feb/09
Brigette said 5' 9" & Janice just ripped him like Hulk Hogan. Go to the photo of Jennifer holding the baby. That's not 5' 10.75" by a 6' in heels JF.
RisingForce said on 9/Feb/09
Exactly Doug. Dickinson is also 5'9 1/2" and a woman. The average man is about 5 1/2 inches taller than the average woman. So Sly at just an inch taller than Janice would seem relatively short to her.

Plus Janice Dickinson isn't exactly known for being logical.

I've also heard that Brigitte Nielsen said Sly was 5'10" during the making of Beverly Hills Cop. She said something along the lines of "Eddie isn't 5'10", I know because Sly is 5'10" and Eddie is shorter".
Doug said on 9/Feb/09
Good work rising force. I suppose those photos and clips of Sly barefoot somebody will claim he had lifts inside his feet or something LOL. He is clearly taller than Sharon Stone barefoot so anything under 5'9" is silly. He can see by ALL of them he is taller than 5'8" often as much as 2-3 inches. The "shortness" thing is a myth I'm sure, I don't know why people make a big thing about it as he has appeared barefoot and not looked short.
Doug said on 9/Feb/09
I think Stallone is a minimum of 5'9" barefoot, even Nielsen claims he is 5'9". Janice Dickinson "I couldn't believe how short he was", she knows that height is an issue with Stallone and was being spiteful I'm sure. It is only an issue not because he is seriously below average height, but because Stallone feels the need to be above average height by wearing lifts as yes being an action star there is a lot of pressure to not disappoint people. I wonder if you guys will still be discussing this in 2011....
Doug said on 9/Feb/09
I completely agree with RisingForce below. You can see by the picture with Dolph even in the 80s that he was not under 5'10" in his flats. It is laughable how those below refers to him "Sly is definately a short guy". Short??? Even if he was 5'8" thats not short compared to the national average!!! Its around average. He is certainly not below average height. Glenn has met him and a good judge for height and could more than likely see by Stallone's frame that he is above 5'8" in reality.

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