RisingForce said on 22/Jan/09
Here are some with lifts and without lifts examples.
Sly and Dolph in equally flat boxing shoes.
Click HereDolph is 6" taller when they stand facing eachother.
Click HereNow at the Rocky Balboa premiere
Click HereTheir shoes
Click HereClick HereDolph also said that he was 195 cm(6'4.75") peak and now he's 193-194 cm(6'4"-6'4.5"). So lets assume that Rob's listing of 6'4.25" is now correct for Dolph.
Sly in liftless slippers next to Carl Weathers who is about 6'1.5". Sly looks less than 3" shorter.
Click HereNow in a recent picture(almost surely in lifts).
Click HereSo lets recap. In even shoes he's 6" max shorter than 6'4.75" Dolph Lundgren. At the Rocky Balboa premiere Sly was about 3" shorter. Dolph was in normal 1"/1.25" dress shoes, Sly was in monster elevator shoes with lifts that maybe added 3"/3.25". So he had a 2.25" footwear advantage max and was about 3" shorter. That would make him a little more than 5" shorter barefoot. That adds up with him being 6" shorter in even shoes and Lundgren losing about ahalf inch like he said.
Sly was less than 3" shorter than 6'1.5" Carl Weathers in slippers. In the recent pictures he likely had a 2" max footwear advantage and he was 1" max shorter. That'd put him still likely a little less than 3" shorter barefoot.
That's the type of stuff that seals it for me, those examples add up perfectly with Sly at 5'10.75". He looks exactly how he should at 5'10.75", with and without lifts. I know he can look 5'9" too, but I think there is more placing him at atleast 5'10".
Mike said on 22/Jan/09
In regards to Franks short Sly sighting he had nothing but good things to say about Sly (funny smart then he is on camera) Glenn and other tall Sly supporters have to realize some people have seen Sly short(er) and posters like me and 90 % of the people have to realize Sly has never left Glenn a short(er) sighting
Mike said on 22/Jan/09
That "beach" pic with his wife they look ballpark the same height, If I had to guess hes between 5'8.5 and 5'10, I really doubt hes 5'7 or close to 5'11 ....People sometimes have differences in judging heights...Glenn says Sly is easy 5'10 Frank says 5'11 in footwear weak 5'8 barefoot, Sly left Manum a shorter impression, so you have 5'10 5'8 and 5'8 avgs around 5'9....even current Arnold Glenn says 5'11 Bronstein on video and email says 6'1 avgs out to be 6 even for him btw who is Goldman??? and how did he see Sly
RisingForce said on 21/Jan/09
Another garbage post from Brad. I'll take the still picture on the beach anyday over one of them walking and him with his head down. And when did I try to inflate Jennifer's height? I said she's 5'9", which is what you say as well. Sly looks 5'10.5" when they're standing still, even factoring in each of their advantages. They're walking downhill with Sly clearly in front in the other picture!
I never said Jack wore lifts on the golf course either, I said at the event he was likely wearing them. Once again this picture from the golf course does make Sly look 5'10.5" if Jack is 5'9".
Click Here Look at Jack here at the Departed premiere(about 4 years after the golf course pictures)
Click HereJack can pass for a 5-10ish guy even 4 years after the golf course picture at premieres. DiCaprio is listed here at 5'11.5", Damon at 5'10" and Wahlberg at 5'8". Most are probably right, give or take a half inch.
Jack is 5'9", that's not a stretch at all. It's only a half inch different than what he's listed here.
As for Hopper I said he could be 5'8", I didn't say he was. Glenn sees him all of the time and says 5'8" so of course it's possible and in my opinion it's just as likely as 5'7". I mean has anyone on this site spent much time comparing Hopper in pictures? No, so 5'7" for Hopper isn't exactly safe enough to assume.
Anon 2 said on 21/Jan/09
Beach photos with Jenn Flavin really do affirm a 5-9-ish height. Also clearly shows his athleticly built lean body and legs. The man does NOT have short "dumpy" legs. A man built like that reaching 6-0 in lifts CANNOT be under 5-8 without lookin stoopid! He'd look like a twig on stilts. I respect all the sightings from Mamun, Glenn and Frank2, but to be quite "frank" (pun intended) I cannot seriously buy Goldman and Frank2's accounts of seeing Sly at only 5-7 and being so adamant about it. It really does taint their height-guaging credibility.
Brad said on 21/Jan/09
Rising got beached. He's trying to inflate Jen, Hopper, Jack. No Rising, he got beached. Jack doesn't wear lifts on the golf course and Hopper doesn't either. Sly needed those NYC sandals at the beach.
Mickey said on 21/Jan/09
I never said you think Jack is 5'8.5" RF. I think he is though. Even if he is 5'9 still today which i doubt, him and Sly look VERY close in height in both of my pictures taken on two seperate days. Jack would have to be in 3-3.5 inch lifts to match Sly's height in dress shoes if Sly really is 5'10.75".
Regarding the beach pics. Both pics show something different. I tend to go for the one where both of them aren't bending their knees. But like a said before, they are beach pictures. Hardly conclusive evidence.
RisingForce said on 21/Jan/09
Lynn says on 20/Jan/09
Good!
Click Here
Now we have sufficient proofs that Sly and his wife Jen are around the same height.
But I am still not convinced that Jen is 5'9".
The picture on the right where they're standing still shows Sly looking 5'10.5". On the picture on the right they're mid-stride, he has his head down more and he's clearly more downhill.
Mamun said on 20/Jan/09
I sure will Glenn ! Thanks .
Regards
mamun
Lynn said on 20/Jan/09
Good!
Click HereNow we have sufficient proofs that Sly and his wife Jen are around the same height.
But I am still not convinced that Jen is 5'9".
Anonymous said on 20/Jan/09
Yes this beach Pic confirms what we all knew : He is around 5.9, 175 cm, and was probably a good 176 cm in his prime. The shower scene in Tango and Cash with Kurt Russel confirms this also.
RisingForce said on 20/Jan/09
Who said I think Jack is 5'8.5"? I said I think he's still 5'9". And Sly may have the camera advantage but I'd say Jack has the posture advantage. Sly isn't really slouching but Jack couldn't possibly be standing straighter.
Sorry for the mixup as far as the Hopper pictures. I never said I defintley think Hopper is 5'8" either. I said he could be, I've never really looked up much about Hopper's height so I don't know. All I know is Glenn who has met him numerous times says he's 5'8" so at the very least there's a good chance he is. My point is that we shouldn't assume Hopper is one height when there hasn't been much evidence posted about his height. He could be 5'7" or 5'8".
As you mentioned with the other beach picture Sly is looking down and he's also visibly on lower ground. They're walking downhill too. With all of that they're still very close in height.
In the other beach picture they're standing still and factoring in everything Sly looks like a 5'10.5", 5'10.75" guy there.
Brad said on 20/Jan/09
Look at him on the beach. If you think that's 2" taller than his 5' 9" wife you are blind. Hopper is slouched and he's 5' 7" tops. Look at him with a 5' 8" Jack at the course, fits like a glove. Again: that's not a 1/4" shy of 5' 11" man next to Jack. Not a chance. Great photo of Jack & Sly at the event, that's not 6' tall, not even close. Sly wore custom boots in Rambo films, he had to, he isn't close to 6' tall.
Mickey said on 20/Jan/09
Amazing find on the beach Anonymous. I know it is a beach picture but it sure does knock out the pic where jennifer had her knees bent. I knew she would be losing alot of height with her knees bent.
Click HereSly is looking down but Jennifer's neck is slouched and tilted, not to the same degree though. Look at their legs in the middle where their feet are close together. Her knee level is pretty much EXACTLY the same as his, if not slightly higher. Shoulders are virtually at the same height also.
italian boy said on 20/Jan/09
he looks 177cm he is on average.
glenn said on 20/Jan/09
mamun-ill be here for you as a tour guide.but you probably know the city well.keep me posted!
leonari said on 20/Jan/09
Thomas : you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it
Mickey said on 20/Jan/09
In regards to the Hopper comment, i was meaning this picture:
Click HereHopper clearly slouched more than Sly. I find it funny how you think Hopper is 5'8" also. Hopper is listed as 5'7" on this site and i seen a fair bit of evidence that makes me believe he is that height. You can bring up Glenn's claims as much as you want, but im not buying it. Nothing against Glenn, he is a nice guy with a good heart.
Click HereJack and Sly are virtually the same height here. They are closer together then your pic also.
If Sly is 5'10.75" he would be pretty much 6 foot in dress shoes. So 5'8.5" Jack must've been wearing 3.5 inch lifts to look Sly's height in this picture? Thats not factoring in the obvious camera advantage Sly has. No chance.
Click HereIts hard to see the ankle position in the Rambo II shot but what is clear is the gradient of Sly's shoes are much steeper. They are lifts, quite decently sized.
RisingForce said on 20/Jan/09
Also regarding Rambo 2, those are boots Crenna is in, his heel is atleast as big as Sly's. Kove strangely seemed taller than Crenna in the movie. Kove's boots looked pretty thick and their eye level looks easily less than 2" apart in that picture. I still see 1.5" there.
I think he looked 5'11.5" in that movie. He did have a posture advantage throughout the film, but footwear advantage? I'm not sure, impossible to tell. If he did it was a 1" max footwear advantage though.
Look at this clip where he looks 5'11.5", maybe 6'0". No boxes or boards either.
Click HereLook at Sly walk beside Crenna from 8:21-8:48. He certainly seems around 6'0" there actually. No camera advantage either.
Irrelevant to my argument but some may find this interesting as far as an example of making a star look taller.
Click HereFrom 1:22-1:34 is an example of "movie magic" They make Sly look Crenna's height walking beside him by putting him closer to the camera.
By the way as far as these clips, don't post stills of them walking because you and I both know we could go back and forth with stills from the same shot where they look much different in height.
He could looked between 5'11"-6'0" throughout Rambo 2 compared to a cast(all of whom were wearing boots). Granted it's very possible he did have lifts in his boots and a posture advantage in most scenes but the two combined wouldn't help him more than 1.5" max in these scenes because nobody is slouching terribly.
RisingForce said on 20/Jan/09
Mickey, that only shows that Sly could have hid more lifts in his boots than Crenna, not that he did. Those are normal jungle boots. It's impossible to know where his ankle position actually is in those boots.
And no, Jack was never the exact same height that day on the golf course. Sly was a hair taller even in the picture you're referring to. My pictures shows them each at their best posture, heads up, shaking hands and backs straight. I'll take that one over the other.
As far as your picture on the other night well I'd guess Sly was in dress shoes that night and Jack was in lifts(he wears them, look at the Departed premiere where he looks like a legit 5'10" guy). That seems logical to me considering Sly actually was in golf shoes in the picture with Jack that I posted(as shown in the full body shot with Hopper).
I based the Hopper picture being off on the pavement in the backround. It didn't seem level at all. I find it funny how in the picture with Hopper you say Hopper was slouching! Sly is clearly slouching more.
Click HereSo 2" taller plus atleast a little more for posture.
I also find it funny how you just assume Hopper is 5'7", he's hardly a celebrity who has been talked about a lot on this site. Glenn said on this page not long ago that he thinks Hopper is still more 5'8"(his peak height listed here).
Mamun said on 19/Jan/09
Yes Zach , if Sheikh Mohammed took over that club you supported it would be
the best thing because the sheikh as you know is a man with a vision & will
invest any amount of cash to things he believes in . For example when he
wanted to build the tallest building in the world , Brother it sure is TALL !
The Burj Dubai is now taller than having two Efile Towers standing on top
of each other and resting on top of the UN building . i.e; it is now 26oo ft .
And Zach nobody wants to come to this event in April more than me but as of
now I am not living in the US . I will only be reaching there with my Mother
around 20 April or something . If the event was held then , I think might
have a chance !
And againg Glenn,we can all see how kind you are in all your latest writings.
I can't wait to go to the Musuem with you when I come to NY . I hope I could
make it as soon as this year . Trust me brother , it's top of my to do list
of the year . The NY cosmopolitan musuem is the greatest mesuem I have seen
in the world . I have been to other famous musuems . But this one is top of
the list in my book !
Kind regards
Supermun
Mickey said on 19/Jan/09
Rob did you get my post that i did about 11 hours ago? I don't live in the US or UK so i post at strange times. Il post what i wrote again.
Click HereI see abit more then 2 inches but we will say 2 inches difference just to be safe. Sly is standing closer to the camera. Sly is also standing straighter then Kove and Sly also has major footwear advantage shown here:
Click HereI don't even call the shoes the other guy is wearing "boots" at all, they look like to have a 1 inch heel. Sly is wearing fairly massive lifts. Compare the gradient of both of their footwear. Sorry but Sly looked 5'11" in that movie with the help of lifts, camera angles and military posture.
In regards to the picture with Seagal, is Sly wearing lifts that night? Seagal is not standing as straight as Sly either.
Sly looking 2 inches taller then a slouching 5'7" Dennis Hopper doesn't make Sly 5'10" either.
You have one picture of Sly looking taller then Jack Nicholson but i have a picture of them on the same day, standing MUCH closer together, looking the exact same height. I also have a picture of another night where Jack looks taller then Sly, and Sly has camera advantage. Jack is about 5'8.5" these days:
Click HereI also find it funny how you pick out little details such the ground on the golf course with Sly and Hopper being off(what shows that it is off?) and you go out of your way to mention it but you ignore it when it works agaisnt Sly.
glenn said on 19/Jan/09
thank you zach.i left the negativity behind.it would be nice to all meet up.but one step at a time.it was all my idea to meet up,and i will.but im not great at meeting with people for the first time.so,rob and i will meet.anything else is up in the air.plus its the most stressful week for me personally.and more stuff popped up.awful timing.but ill work it out.
Thomas said on 19/Jan/09
Sylvester Stallone must be about 5 foot 6. In Rocky 4 he appears about a foot shorter than 6 foot 5 Dolph Lundgren. In Rocky 3, Hulk Hogan at 6 foot 7 or 6'8 height seems to easily be a foot or more taller than him. In Rhinestone Sylvester Stallone did not look much bigger than Tiny Dolly Parton who is like 5'3. Cobra was the movie that Stallone actually looked like 5'10 though they seem to shy away from showing him next to very tall +Brigitte Nielson.
TELLEM said on 19/Jan/09
that beach shot next to his 5'9 wife, in one of em shes bending her knees.
Zach said on 19/Jan/09
Glenn that was very admirable your comments about Mamun, despite both of you meeting Sly face to face and having considerably different estimates. A reflection of the class person you are these days.
Mamun - just an idea, why not try and go to New York in March or whenever it is Rob is going there? It'd be awesome for celebheights if we could get a pic of you three together! If it fits all of your respective work schedules of course. I'm sure you guys would have a lot of first hand stories about celebrities to exchange.
RisingForce said on 19/Jan/09
I did explain the Hopper picture. Without the pavement/camera angle advantage Sly is 2" taller and slouching in the full body shot. Hopper's shoes look like they could be thicker too and Hopper could be 5'8".
You can't explain the slippers picture, Sly being taller than Kurt Russell barefoot, Sly being taller than his wife on the beach barefoot, Sly dwarfing Glenn in sandals and Sly having 1.5" or 2" on Jack Nicholson in golf shoes. I'm not even mentioning a lot more that puts him in the 5'10"-5'11" range.
Sly has looked 5'10"-5'11" in flat liftless footwear or no footwear numerous times and he looks to reach about 3" taller than that in his big shoes often. That's good enough for me.
You also have to remember Brad that one height will not make sense in every picture, everyone's height fluctuates.
glenn said on 19/Jan/09
woody harrelson wore sandles,er,sandals in nyc streets,and lo and behold i had proof again.and yet people dont believe.i need to snap the feet pics.not easy.cause the celebs dont stick around.
glenn said on 19/Jan/09
parker-thats a cool pic.andy warhol was a family friend to one of my friends.5-7,5-8?
glenn said on 19/Jan/09
exactly bam and risingforce.ill try to eventually resend it to you rob.
RisingForce said on 19/Jan/09
I agree also Glenn that I haven't seen a picture where Sly didn't look atleast 5-9ish and the ground was level/posture was good ect.
Mamun said on 18/Jan/09
I am grateful that everyone enjoyed my account of Sly . And thank you all
for your kind comments . It's comments like these that make me go out and
get even more celebs to keep my good friends here as happy as possible .
Kind regards
Supermun
Mamun said on 18/Jan/09
Thank you soooooo much Glenn for your kind words ! I always knew this is
how you are from the very beginning ! I really wish we could hang out in
one of my fav cities ; New york ! I am just dying to go to the natural
History museum .
Kind regards
Mamum
Brad said on 18/Jan/09
Rising can't explain the huge amount of air between the top of Glenn's head and Sly in sandals (sandals in NYC on the street!) and the amount with a 5' 7" Dennis Hopper. It doesn't make sense if you say Sly is just under 5' 11". That video was great, he looks all of 5' 8.5" in Hawaii. He got caught. Maybe he needs the NYC sandals. You think DeNiro is going to allow another NYC paisan to wear munsters next to him? Mamun saw him. He knows. He'd be looking up like Glenn if he were 5' 10.75". Yes Strife, he does. Massive lifts.
RisingForce said on 18/Jan/09
Great point Glenn. If anything admitting Sly was in sandals and you were on your tip toes. You also admitted you weren't 5'8" yet in 1991 and that you were more like 5'7" then. So there's no reason to doubt your honesty in that picture.
Also as you said in that picture he was 5'10" at the very least there and he looked closer to 5'11" there as your head was barely above his eyes. He didn't even seem to have ridiculous chest out posture there either.
Parker said on 18/Jan/09
Glenn - I've never seen any pic of him looking less than 5'9 either.
Picture of Sly with 5'11 Susan Anton
Click Here5'7/5'8 for Sly beggars belief.
Anonymous said on 18/Jan/09
To Kev
Here's Sly on a beach...he is as tall as his wife Jennifer flavin who is 5.9
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Strife said on 18/Jan/09
wears massive lifts, 3-4 inches
glenn said on 18/Jan/09
i never,ever saw a pic of sly looking under 5-9.unless your counting beach and slopes and hills of dirt and grass on golf courts.even then he looks 5-9.i have a pic of him where he is in sandals next to me,and he looks 5-10 at least.the pic was up here for awhile.i wouldnt lie about sandals and me being slightly on my tip toes.thats honest to admit that.i have witnesses too in the industry there that night.
Brad said on 18/Jan/09
About 2-3 years ago for Roddy. Ray Courts' show Burbank. Odd seeing him talk normal instead of the raving delivery.
Zach said on 17/Jan/09
Mamun thanks a lot for that account, appreciate it. Sounds like a heck of a party. Incidentally that Sheikh Mohammed you mentioned was supposed to take over the football club I support but that deal fell through, couple of texans came in instead and completely screwed us over.
frankys said on 17/Jan/09
i think that copland is prolly one of the few movies where he doesn't wear huge lifts... he's about the same height of De Niro and Liotta tower him in few scenes
Kev said on 17/Jan/09
anonymous,
that video proves absolutely nothing about his height. we don't know how tall the women in the video are.
if anything, he's not even that much taller than the first lady that he was talking to. she is almost eye to eye with him and she has horrible posture.
derek d said on 17/Jan/09
Looks about 5'9 there when his full body is shown... Can you guys honestly say he looks 5'10.75 there? I mean just be realistic... But 5'9 isn't even that short, I don't really see 5'7 - 5'8 there.
RisingForce said on 17/Jan/09
Try speaking English and making sense Brad.
Cool story though Mamun. Never hesitate to share your sightings, even if we disagree all of us who are reasonable welcome your opinion.
Anonymous said on 17/Jan/09
awesome video....where you can't honestly say he's under 5.9...Photographed in 1984 on Super 8MM sound film, Sylvester Stallone hangs around the pool at the Kahala Hilton hotel on the island of Oahu, Hawaii, and is noticed by fans.
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Mike said on 17/Jan/09
Im also curious what height Sly appears in public, he didnt look tiny compared to current 6'3.5 Hogan, he can get close to Denzel Washington/Tom Arnold/Arnie for exp he doesnt top them but gets close to them, he also can be seen shorter then his wife (5'9??) and alil taller then Nicholson and Deniro
Dave said on 17/Jan/09
I remember Stallone had a bit part in the version of 'The Big Sleep' which stared Robert Mitchum. I was suprised how average he looked, both in height and physique. 5'8" about right.
Steve said on 17/Jan/09
Great story mamun. and as ever you tell it like a gentleman. your estimate is also same as Frank's no more than 5.8 I definitely believe you these 5'10 estimates are dgddgatt to digest and anything higher is just plain absurd. you might not have a pic but there are loads of pics showing sly shorter than 5'9
glenn said on 17/Jan/09
cause i have the photo doesnt always mean im right mamun.but i know im right in this case.as your probably right on other celebs over me.i applaud your words.but please stand by your beliefs.dont be afaid to go against me.cause we respect each other.with love to you mamun.your a better man than me.in alot of ways.
Source said on 17/Jan/09
He's probably about 5-9
derek d said on 17/Jan/09
Thanks for the lines rising.... He looks around 6'0 - 6'0.5 with Arnold there.
Brad said on 16/Jan/09
Put Hopper by Weathers, thats Fonda air between the two, maybe less an inch. Put Hopper by Sly in golf shoes. No air. This is a meal well done bud. Sly's event customs are 3"+ heavy on the plus with the big wedge. Watch "The Lords Of Flatbush" standing by Fonzie. That's not close to 5' 11". He'd eat Winkler by 3 hamburgers stacked on top of Fonz's head bro.
Mamun said on 16/Jan/09
O.K. my good friends here is the story one more time ! The date was 26th May
1998 and it was at a party at the Dubai Intercontinental Hotel hosted by my
guess would be the Sheikh Mohammed . He wasn't the ruler at that time but he
was for sure a very big shot and if you would want to do big Business in
Dubai he was the man you would want to see . There were a lot of super big
celebs there and I was lucky to get only three of them ; Bruce Wilies,Cindy
and Amitab . But I also saw Noami watts , Wesly snips and Tia Carrie and so
many others I couldn't recognise . You all know by now that Dubai is like
Celeb city witghout the evil known as Paparazi . The story is very long but
I will now tell you how I saw Sly .
At first I saw him standing face to face with the Sheikh at a distance and I
was standing next to the Buffet Table . Then he left the sheikh and came
towards me to pick up a glass of juice . It was then I was face to face with
him and our eyes met . I noded to say Hi and he smiled and noded right back
at me and went back to his conservation . All I am going to say is I wouldn't
give him more than a 5' 8" barefoot . But my friends Glenn is the one with
a photo so whatever he says is right . I do not have the photo with him .
I hope I have answered your questions !
Regards
Mamun
Anonymous said on 16/Jan/09
Already posted here under but nobody noticed !
Intersting recent pic with Sly and Arnold...Sly keep growing and Arnold keep shrinking...scroll down the pic !
Click HereOther Guys are very Tall More than 2 meters...
Kev said on 16/Jan/09
Sound logic derek d. a guy pushing 5'11 could easily hit 6'2 with lifts on any time of the day. on that infamous picture with arnold that rising put up, Stallone is definitely not as tall as 6 foot arnold (which is debatable) with what appears to be normal sneakers that give 1 inch. so under the most optimal scenario that works in stallone's favor, we give arnold a generous 6'1 with sneakers on and doing the math stallone a 6'0.5 with his lifts on. take away 3 inches for his lifts, and you have 5'9.5. a 5'10.75 stallone with lifts on would have arnold with 1 inch sneakers by at least an inch.
that is why i believe stallone is somewhere along the lines of 5'9-5'9.5. and as i repeat, that was assuming that his lifts give him 3 inches. he could be sliding some lifts inside his socks to give him an extra inch for all we know (trust me i have seen people do this) then we could really be looking at 5'8 ish territory.
but i will give sly the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's not THAT desperate lol.
Anon 2 said on 16/Jan/09
Do you guys who support 5-6 to 5-7 really even know what you're saying? That a 5-6 man can play the role of HEAVYWEIGHT boxer and fight huge goliath men like 6-5 250lb Dolph Lundgren without looking utterly ridiculous?! Sure, Hollywood has its tricks but there's a limit. A 5-6'er who can convincingly pull off 6-0 heights on a consistent basis must be built like bull on stilts. Even the barefeet pics I see of the man show he has a pretty athletic, non-chunky build. This is suppose to be a fun site but too many Sly haters lurk about...
RisingForce said on 16/Jan/09
derek d says on 16/Jan/09
ACG, Look closer Sly is not taller than Arnold in that picture, he's actually around .5 or .75 inches shorter, im sure someone here can draw a line across their foreheads for us.
About the same height in that picture, but Sly may be getting a slight advantage from being closer to the camera.
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TELLEM said on 16/Jan/09
brad, when exactly did u meet roddy piper?
derek d said on 16/Jan/09
Also what I don't understand is if Sly usually looks around 6'0 - 6'1 in elevator shoes, if he was 5'10.75 barefoot wouldn't normal shoes put him to 6'0? Lol... Not trying to say he's 5'7 - 5'8 or anything but Sly's elevators are usually 2.5 - 3 inches minimum for events, so 5'9 ish sounds realistic doesn't it?
Shoelace said on 16/Jan/09
I saw an outfit Sly wore in one of his movies; it was on displayed at a Hard Rock Cafe and it was in a life-like partial manequin that you could stand right next to. If he could really wear it, he's a very small, very slight man. I can't imagine he's any taller than about 5' 6".
derek d said on 16/Jan/09
ACG, Look closer Sly is not taller than Arnold in that picture, he's actually around .5 or .75 inches shorter, im sure someone here can draw a line across their foreheads for us.
TELLEM said on 16/Jan/09
keitel didn't look 5'8 next to steve buschemi, whos 5'8, mekhi phifer whos 5'9.5...he looked around 5'7.
frankys said on 16/Jan/09
thanks tellem
RisingForce said on 16/Jan/09
Sly and 5'9.5" Eddie Murphy
Click HereSly is much taller. Both are known to wear lifts, although judging by the difference Sly likely has a footwear advantage.
Once again who cares what Hopper would look like in slippers near Carl?
Brad, Glenn admitted to being 5'7" in the sandals picture too(so you can't use the excuse that Glenn is 5'7" instead of 5'8" here) and he had photo proof that Sly was about 4" taller. That's as good as it gets for evidence.
Joe is right. Sly is 5'10.5".
Brad said on 16/Jan/09
I've met Roddy Piper he's 5' 11.5" tops. T being 3" shorter than his peak isn't 5' 11". An inch over Keitel is like 5' 8.5". At least Mamun has it right....and he stood by him. Glenn stood by him in sandals standing on his toes and got 4" thrown at him. Mamun would see that gap of air. Frank2 did. Put Hopper in sandals by Weathers. He'd be owned large like with Peter Fonda in the spring of 1968. Zach: 96%. Van Damme doesn't wear Stallone customs. Frank Stallone: "Shouldn't have worn those shoes bro".
Anonymous said on 16/Jan/09
I have stood next to Stallone and I am a 5'9" (no shoes)
He is 5'6" maybe 5'-7" MAX without lifts.
Joe said on 16/Jan/09
in 1993 NY Times said "I'm exactly 5 feet 10 1/2 inches"
I believe he's 179cm too. This has to be one of the biggest blunders of celebheights. 2 inches is a lifetime of difference.
Joe said on 16/Jan/09
He looks the same height and even taller than 6'1 Arnie. No 5'9er can ever do that.
Mike said on 15/Jan/09
I feel for Glenn wanting saying Sly is 5'10 or taller but he does have some very short looking pictures out there with his wife and some others and what people forget is that Frank2 said Sly in footwear is 5'11 or 6 (similiar to Glenn)back in the early 80's but noticed a big difference barefoot, I really doubt Sly is 5'7 hes gotta be taller then that but what I do believe Frank is that Sly wears huge footwear, esp for him to notice a huge difference
bam said on 15/Jan/09
acg that pic is incredible lfmao. Stallone finally taller than Arnold.
glenn said on 15/Jan/09
harvey keital is 5-8.can look taller at events in i guess elevators.stallone is usually 6ft in elevators.6-1 on occasion.5-11 is too low for anything i saw in public.in lifts that is.
Zach said on 15/Jan/09
Stallone looks 1.5inches shorter than 6'0 Arnold, whats new there, and almost certainly with elevator footwear. Its already been discussed to death that Sly can look at least in the 5'11 region with elevator footwear which 95% of the time he's always wearing.
RisingForce said on 15/Jan/09
I was just going to post that ACG. The top of Sly's head and eye level line up exactly with Arnold's of course he's a little closer to the camera but look at these pictures again.
Click HereClick HereArnold is maybe 1/4 inch taller. Arnie is in sneakers that add about an inch while Sly is in work style boots which add about 1 3/4 inches. What does that make Arnold? An inch taller? You can see that Sly's legs don't look unusually long either so it's unlikely he has anything in those boots.
If we assume Arnold is a weak 6'0" or just under then that puts Sly at 5'10.5" or 5'10.75".
Now look at this picture of Sly and 5'9" Jean-Claude Van Damme
Click HereVan Damme is clearly closer to the camera and atleast 2 inches shorter than Sly. Here are Van Damme's shoes that night.
Click HereThe front of the shoes look like cowboy boots, but I can't see the heel so I'm not 100% sure. If he's in cowboy boots then that rules out anything under 5'10" in that picture for Stallone.
ACG said on 15/Jan/09
Click HereRIP the belief that stallone is anything under 5'9. you shall not be missed. at all.
TELLEM said on 15/Jan/09
i just recently watched copland again and saw the funeral scene, when 5'7 harvey keitel introduces PDA President Vincent Lassaro to sly...there was only an inch- inch.5 between sly and harvey...they both had similar shoes on. 5'8ish for stallone
TELLEM said on 15/Jan/09
frankys says on 15/Jan/09
someone explain this pic ,please
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they all look around the same height, which they most likely are...there all in between the 5'7-5'8 range
Zach said on 15/Jan/09
Mamun - Leung and Frank2 didn't have pictures, it doesn't mean we dont believe their stories. Given also your hundreds of pictures with celebrities on this website, I think its fair to say everyone recognises you as a genuine contributer.
Could you please describe your meeting with Sly and your most accurate estimate for him? I can only remember you posting one line on this page before saying you saw him as 5'7-8. If possible could you describe your meeting with him in more detail.
frankys said on 15/Jan/09
someone explain this pic ,please
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RisingForce said on 15/Jan/09
TELLEM says on 14/Jan/09
what if sly was on his tip toes in that pic w/ seagal and a bunch of other actors...he probably did as a matter of fact...
That's highly unlikely. If Sly tip toed in pictures then I'm sure something would have been written about that in the press.
Jimbo said on 15/Jan/09
Barefoot I believe Sly is 173cm 5'8" Max.
Mamun said on 14/Jan/09
My friend Brad and to all my other friends here ! The reason why I don't post
in this page is because even though I met Sly face to face , I do not have the
one thing that the other good posters would want from me if I disagree with
their estimate ; " where is the Proof " ! Yes my friends I do not have a photo
with him to back my claim ! I hope my friends here will kindly take this to
heart .
Regards
Mamun
TELLEM said on 14/Jan/09
what if sly was on his tip toes in that pic w/ seagal and a bunch of other actors...he probably did as a matter of fact...
Brad said on 14/Jan/09
He's easily be 6' 2" with those boots on Zach but he looks way short even those "things" on. Just think, with those things on he'd be another 2" higher than Glenn in the sandals shot! Yer right, Mr. T owns him.
RisingForce said on 14/Jan/09
Brad, I already proved why that "lineup" picture wasn't reliable because of each of their loose posture, Weathers unknown footwear and Weathers clear camera advantage.
The slippers picture on the other hand is the best picture you'll find for comparing their heights. Sly is in footwear that clearly gives no height and even standing straight Carl would have just 3" MAX on Sly.
The Hopper picture is irrelevant to that one. They were not only taken on a different day with different footwear but they were taken 2 decades apart! Who cares what Hopper would look like in slippers next to Carl???! I already gave my explanation for that picture as well.
RisingForce said on 14/Jan/09
Zach, no it's never safe to just assume. Especially when there's another picture of Sly looking looking a couple of inches taller in comparison to Seagal. A good bet and an assumption are different. I personally believe that because of the difference between them in the 2 pictures that Sly was wearing lifts in my picture and he wasn't yours. You're entitled to your opinion and Sly does wear them so much that it's expected, but he has been seen without elevator shoes once in a while.
And no Sly wouldn't look 6'2" in those boots either. Because the front of the boots aren't thick he'd only be getting about 3 inches max, meaning he'd measure somewhere in the 6'1" to 6'2" in range in them, assuming he has lifts in them. Even then he'd look like 6'0" to 6'1" because everyone he's around is wearing shoes that are atleast 1" too. And all of that is assuming everyone elses shoes are only about 1 inch and that Sly is wearing lifts.
In reality I remember Talia Shire wearing big heels in atleast one scene(when they're leaving their house for California I believe). Weathers shoes also had a pretty good heel on them and in the first Rocky movie Burt Young wore boots with good sized heels. I'm not aware of his footwear in Rocky 3 or Burgess Meredith's for that matter. If Sly was just wearing the boots with no lifts then he MIGHT reach 6'1" in them if he's lucky, that'd make him look like a weak 6'0". And that's if Weathers, Talia Shire, Burt Young and Burgess Meredith are wearing just 1" shoes. I have boots with a heel almost that big and they add 2", maybe Sly's add a little over that but certainly not 3" on their own.
And no he was going for a David vs Goliath feel in the movie. From Sly's official site....
"When making Rocky III, Sly would begin the day with a two mile jog, then go straight into 18 rounds of sparring, 2 hours of weightlifting and jumping rope. After all this, he would take a nap in the afternoon, then go running again! He would finish the day with a swim. On this film he made himself even leaner and smaller to enhance the
TELLEM said on 14/Jan/09
thats a good one zach, and mr. t was 3 inches shorter than 6'1-6'1.5 peak roddy piper. thats a real 5'10 man.sly is nowhere NEAR 5'10. he probably wishes he were, hell he probably wishes he had his brother's height, but he doesn't.
Zach said on 14/Jan/09
When 9 times out of 10 Stallone is wearing elevator footwear, it's a very safe bet that he's donning some at a public event.
I still cant get over Leonari's picture of how big Stallone's boots are
Click Here if Sly really was a shade under 5'11 he'd easily look in the 6'2 region with those on. Sometimes I think Sly might be 5'10 then I see something like that, and no way did he look 6'2 in Rocky 3. In fact he consistently looked shorter than 5'10.5 Mr T. And before anyone throws up any apple box theories, the whole david goliath comparison was for Rocky 4 not 3. Watch the fight in HD:
Click Here Stallone is clearly shorter all the way through. Theres a scene right at the start of the fight where they square up and you can clearly see sly is 2 inches shorter.
Brad said on 14/Jan/09
Hey Rising, if you can't see Sly getting owned huge in that line-up you must be blind. That slippers shot is farce. Again: look at Sly in golf shoes with Dennis Hopper, now put a 5' 7" Dennis Hopper in slippers by Carl Weathers. Jim Morrison '67: "Wake Up!". I was 6' 7" in shoes (at least) with Cruise a foot away(Vampire time). He's 5' 8" dead on. Put his customs on and the posture (he's got GREAT posture) and mira: not as short as one assumes. Anybody recall Mamuns story with Sly. Supermamun is AWOL on Sly. Don't be afraid of Glenn or Rising, they aren't after your money Mamun or make fun of your terrific outfits (think that'll work guys?) At 5' 10.75" in regular shoes he'd be over 6' in every film/red carpet etc. er,I don't think so. I've seen Nighthawks. He needed Don Siegel on that one.
Anon 2 said on 13/Jan/09
Spot on Derek D. Well said. I'm in your camp - the "I don't really take towards any sides", just the plain and simple truth. Why can't people accept 5-9-ish like Rob has it? Makes the most sense.
While I see what Zach is saying, your last pic of Sly and Seagal, there really IS a substantial camera advantage for Seagal over Stallone. Seagal is standing in front and notice how much bigger his head is than Stallone's. In RisingForce's Stallone+Seagal pic, Sly's head is actually bigger than Seagal's when they stand closer together. In short (no pun intended), once again don't believe what you see.
While I disagree with what Zach says in accepting the guestimates of Hogan, Frank2, Mamum, etc... who say he's 5-8-ish, I do acknowledge that with such a large number of claims like that, there is legitimate reason to believe the man isn't a solid confident "tall" height over 5-10. It doesn't mean he really is only 5-8 either, but it does warrant legitimate reasons for some to have doubts about his "tallness". True 5-10.5 or near 5-11 men like Daniel Craig, Brad Pitt, etc.. occasionally get flak for their heights and labeled "short", but not quite by so many people as Sly with all those "short" sightings. Sure, you need to take all these short sightings with a grain of salt, but it should be enough to cast doubts on a solid tall height...
I'll add that if he's a 5-8.5'er, he's probably a *strong* one, like 174cm. If a 5-10'er, he's a *weak* one, like 176.5cm (5-10 is 177.5cm methinks)...
TELLEM said on 13/Jan/09
well brad is 6'5 and he witnessed tom cruise at 5'8...does that mean hes completely off as well risingforce?
RisingForce said on 13/Jan/09
Brad says on 12/Jan/09
You are off by 1/2" Miko. That Weathers slippers is a joke compared to the line-up photo where Stallone looks like he's getting owned big.
It's the other way around. The "lineup picture was a joke compared to the slippers picture because Weathers was visibly closer to the camera and this made a difference as Weathers head appeared huge in the picture. Plus we couldn't see Weathers footwear and both of them had loose posture. All of that and Sly's head still hit Weather's eye level.
The slippers picture is 100 times better than that picture. You just can't deal with that because he looks 5'10.75" there.
Brad said on 13/Jan/09
I can just imagine the garbage on Sly's feet knowing he's gonna meet Seagal. Like Frank2 & Mamun are going to blatantly lie about the obvious gap between their head top & Sly's looking at zero on Sly's footsies.
glenn said on 13/Jan/09
mickey-one of my posts didnt show a few days ago either.
glenn said on 12/Jan/09
outstanding post zach.i totally agree with you.
TELLEM said on 12/Jan/09
RisingForce says on 12/Jan/09
Tellem, I think they're off because I believe Glenn on this one. As I said I consider Glenn the best source as far as Sly's height as he's met Sly 17 times and has 2 pictures that back up his estimates. What makes you think he'd be off that much? Or Leung for that matter. Gonzalo who is 5'8 1/2" and saw Sly looking 5'10 3/4" while wearing regular sneakers said there's no way Sly is shorter than him. So there are plenty of people who meet him and argue both sides.
I'll ask you the same question, what makes you think they'd be off so much? I have to disagree with one side so I'll agree with the side that makes the most sense to me, which is Glenn's. I've seen pictures of Sly looking 5'10"+ in sandals, bare feet, slippers, golf shoes ect. and also looking 6'1"+ in elevator shoes. All of that adds up to Glenn's 5'10 3/4" claim.
Of course there's a good amount of evidence that puts him lower, but you'll find that with any celebrity here. Arnold was measured in his peak and you still have a lot of people claiming he was never much over 6'0".
i dunno why they'd be off so much risingforce. its not easy for me to just say hes 5'10 when theres too many short sightings for me to be convinced that hes 5'10...not to mention that i said months ago that my friend saw him shorter than him and my friend is 5'9. like i said, too many short sightings, specifically 5'7-5'8.
derek d said on 12/Jan/09
Btw I really don't take towards any sides here , but I what I dislike about this page is mostly everyone thinks he's either 5'7, 5'8 or like 5'10.5, 5'10.75.... What about in between at like 5'9 or even 5'9.75 for a morning height? I mean it makes sense because the median oh all this rambling of really short an tall sighting is about 5'9 ish.... And people here who are all for Sly being 5'10.75 never have any comments to pictures like Zach just posted, and people who are for Sly being 5'7 - 5'8 ignore pictures where he looks 6'0.5 - 6'1.
RisingForce said on 12/Jan/09
Zach as far as Sly's two wives well Brigitte said 5'10" for Sly when she was with him I believe leonari said. When did she say 5'9" or under? When did Sly's other wife or sister say that too?
I already posted why Sly's shoemaker was unreliable.
Click HereHe says Sly owed him 2,900 dollars that he didn't pay, of course he had a reason to lie.
Goldman isn't near reliable either. That guy has ridiculous stories about stars wearing
lifts in socks....that tells you all you need to know. Plus he even says that he loves when action stars are shorter than they claim and he said seeing if Stallone was 5'7" was "too yummy to resist" I believe. And he was trying to sell a book. Gee, he wouldn't have any reasons for lying.
Considering Hogan is 6'6", even if Sly is 5'10"-5'10.75" he'd be 7-8 inches shorter meaning he wouldn't be much above his chin. Sly would seem so short anyway Hogan could have just assumed he was no taller than 5'8". If Sly was anywhere in the 5'8" to 5'10.75" range which it's safe to say he is, then he'd be so much shorter that Hogan would have a difficult time estimating.
Plus as Vegas said Hogan has been known to lie as far as height. He still claims to be 6'5" himself, he claimed his daughter was 6'0" or 6'1" and he claims Kevin Nash is 7'2". The latter being just ridiculous.
So I'd hardly call him reliable when it comes to height.
derek d said on 12/Jan/09
Zach interesting picture as he looks around 5'9 in your Seagal/Stallone pic. But isn't the actor to his right usually listed at 5'9? Sly looks a inch shorter than him...
RisingForce said on 12/Jan/09
Zach, the likely thing is that Sly is liftless in your picture and has lifts in my picture. Regardless he's about 6" shorter than Seagal there and maybe 4" or 4.5" shorter in my picture. That difference could be the difference in his shoes that night.
And I'd also hardly call that a more accurate picture. I'll take the closer picture with less people in it where you can see more of their bodies anyday.
The Seagal and Lundgren pictures aren't too close. It's no coincidence that on the same night of the Lundgren picture Sly looked really close to 6'2" Antonio Tarver's height and in other pictures looked taller than Bruce Willis who was wearing what looked like 1.5" minimum boots.
I also think it's wrong to assume Sly is in elevator shoes without seeing his shoes.
miko, several things wrong with that. First of all Glenn is 5'8", second of all Sly had more like 2.5" on Glenn and 3rd of all how do you know Sly had 2" footwear on?
Zach said on 12/Jan/09
Sometimes when the camera is too close things can become distorted (see Glenn and Simon Cowell picture), similar to the much heralded Lundgren picture, I think pretty much everyone knows he doesnt stand at 6'2. Same with with the Seagal picture below. Lynn great observation, Sly's legs are mysteriously longer than Seagal's, very interesting.
Step back, get some perspective
Click Here and you see a more accurate height difference. Seagal's fractionally closer, but this is compensated for by his head actually being bent downwards. Ace Ventura can't bear to look as to how small Sly really is. And you can bet the world that Sly has elevators on at such a celebrity filled photoshoot.
Having Sly at 5'9 can be perceived as an 'insult' to Mamun, Frank, Sly's two wives, Sly's sister, Sly's own shoemaker, Goldman, Hulk Hogan, Randy Jennings etc etc. It works both ways, this is just a light hearted website, there's no insult either way.
Brad said on 12/Jan/09
You are off by 1/2" Miko. That Weathers slippers is a joke compared to the line-up photo where Stallone looks like he's getting owned big. Look at Hopper by Sly and then Glenn next to Sly (standing on his toes) and do the math. Sly needs to bring those NYC sandals to the golf course, add spikes. Like Frank2 or Mamun can't see the height gap. Oh please.
Lynn said on 12/Jan/09
RisingForce says on 11/Jan/09
Click HereAnd the most important thing is that we have discovered that Sly has longer legs than Seagal.
miko said on 12/Jan/09
I thought I'd add to the debate including the pic above:
Glenn 5"7.5 + 1.5" footwear = 5"9
Stallone is maximum 2" taller (IN FOOTWEAR) in the above pic, which puts him at 5"11 in footwear.
Stallone 5"9 + 2" footwear = 5"11
Top pic puts Stallone around the 5"9 mark.
Christian said on 12/Jan/09
-Italian boy, could you ask your father if he remembered the shoes Sly was wearing? Thanks.
RisingForce said on 12/Jan/09
I agree Glenn. The sandals picture from 1991 needs to be up.
RisingForce said on 12/Jan/09
Tellem, I think they're off because I believe Glenn on this one. As I said I consider Glenn the best source as far as Sly's height as he's met Sly 17 times and has 2 pictures that back up his estimates. What makes you think he'd be off that much? Or Leung for that matter. Gonzalo who is 5'8 1/2" and saw Sly looking 5'10 3/4" while wearing regular sneakers said there's no way Sly is shorter than him. So there are plenty of people who meet him and argue both sides.
I'll ask you the same question, what makes you think they'd be off so much? I have to disagree with one side so I'll agree with the side that makes the most sense to me, which is Glenn's. I've seen pictures of Sly looking 5'10"+ in sandals, bare feet, slippers, golf shoes ect. and also looking 6'1"+ in elevator shoes. All of that adds up to Glenn's 5'10 3/4" claim.
Of course there's a good amount of evidence that puts him lower, but you'll find that with any celebrity here. Arnold was measured in his peak and you still have a lot of people claiming he was never much over 6'0".
GUK said on 12/Jan/09
If he says himself he's 5ft 10 or 5ft 10.5 he is clearly no taller than that. If anything given his munster wearing it's a boast. He's clearly 5ft 10 maximum, how much minimum is debatable
italian boy said on 12/Jan/09
my father saw him in a restaurant venice in 1992...so my father is 182 cm and sly was the same height,but i don t know about shoes.
Mickey said on 12/Jan/09
Rob most posts aren't going through.
glenn said on 12/Jan/09
rob-you need to get the other stallone pic on top.the one in sandals.thanks.
glenn said on 12/Jan/09
thank you bam.i just wrote a long post to complex on how frustrating it could be when i come here with all this proof and still get ignored.i only have problems with those that think sly is below 5-9.and like you,i think 5-9 is too low.and yes,you are correct,im a weak 5-8.
Michael said on 12/Jan/09
Sly has got to be 5'10". I say this because Jimmy Caan is listed at 5'9.5" and in a movie I saw the two of them in together, Sly was 1/2 inch taller than Caan.
glenn said on 12/Jan/09
peoples glasses distort vision.makes you see clearer.no doubt.but i think a couple argued here(on another page ridiculing someone 2 years ago)that glasses makes you see things smaller.i think i even tried peoples glasses in the past and had that effect.actually i think it came up when colin farrel was claimed at 5-8,now that i think of it.might be hogwash,but i couldve sworn i experienced that effect.
derek d said on 12/Jan/09
RisingForce: great pic with seagal, no way a 5'7 man or 5'8 man get as close to him in that picture as sly does but one thing i think your off about is that how Richard Crenna and Martin Kove wore boots just as big as Sly, it doesn't matter how big they are, it doesn't change the fact that Sly's were elevator boots with wedges inside and has the advantage, as pics have been shown from Rambo 2. But even considering that, those two men are 6'2 ish in those boots which makes Sly close to 6', so no less than 5'9 and i can buy possibly 5'10 too.
bam said on 12/Jan/09
i find it borderline insulting to list sly at 5'9 and have a pic right below showing that he is clearly over 5'10 near a (weak) 5'8 guy. No offense rob, but I don't see how sly can be only an inch taller than glenn only. This is confirmed by what glenn saw in the flesh, and the pic. The facts are Sly isn't cheating, and Glenn isn't lying/mistaken. Sly is 5'10 minimum at the time this pic was taken.
JeffC said on 11/Jan/09
I saw a clip from an old movie he did with Henry Winkler and Sly wasnt that much taller and had boots on.
TELLEM said on 11/Jan/09
yea, but risingforce, guys like frank2 and mamun aren't ppl who could care less about height...they know HEIGHT...so what makes you think they'd be off by so much?
RisingForce said on 11/Jan/09
Brad, Sly had 2+ on Hopper considering the ground/angle and he was slouching.
Sly wasn't much shorter than Weathers in slippers, get over it. He looked 5'10.75" there....IN SLIPPERS!!! A Full body shot, you could seee his face!
God this is absurd, you can't even use the double excuse for the slippers picture. You can't say he was satnding on a box. Sly did look 5'10", 5'11" in slippers next to a man who we're all sure was in the 6'1", 6'2" range. This is ridiculous, stop ignoring that picture or making up ridiculous excuses that don't even make sense.
RisingForce said on 11/Jan/09
Tellem, people are mistaken all the time. You hear 5'9" or 5'10" all the time for Arnold now too, doesn't mean he is. Same with Sly, he isn't 5'7" or 5'8", there's no way.
Here Sly looks a lot taller than you'd expect next to 6'4" or 6'5" Steven Seagal
Click HereCompare Sly to 6'1" Martin Kove in Rambo 2, both were in big boots and Sly was only 1.5" or 2" shorter.
Click HereClick HereSly pulled off looking 5'11" or 5'11.5" throughout that movie next to 6'1" guys like Martin Kove and Richard Crenna who were wearing boots atleast as big. Because their boots were as big, the only advantage he could have had would have been 1 inch in lifts meaning it'd be unlikely he'd be under 5'10" or 5'10.5" and pull off looking that tall in that movie.
He's 5'10.75", Glenn isn't blind. Glenn really would know best how tall Sly is considering he's met him the most and has 2 pictures backing up his estimates, one of them is of Sly in sandals looking 5'11". Glenn wouldn't be off by that much with all of that.
Brad said on 11/Jan/09
Put Dennis Hopper in those slippers next to Carl, let us see what happens. Hopper is in shoes next to Peter Fonda and gets burned big. Frank2 & Mamun aren't blind. You CAN'T be that stupid to not see someone in socks & yourself and add.
Anon 2 said on 11/Jan/09
Haven't been on this thread for a while. Like the new evidence that's cropped up, especially the pics posted by Leonari. Glad to see Brad's at least accepting 5-8.5. From everything I've gathered, I think Sly is 5-8.5 evening, 5-9 day and 5-9.5 morning. In his prime (Rocky I-III), I think he was 5-9 evening, 5-9.5 day and 5-10 morning. No offense to the short believers, but anything under 5-8.5 is ridiculous. And same goes to the tall believers, I really think 5-10 is really stretching it, is the absolute tallest he ever was in the best of conditions, and was never even a millimeter over on the best morning of the best healthy day of his adult life.
ACG said on 11/Jan/09
haha, love the sarcasm, glenn....can't blame ya one bit, though. these guys are relentless.
TELLEM said on 10/Jan/09
hes 5'8...frank2 and mamun aren't blind
TELLEM said on 10/Jan/09
theres too many short sightings of sly to believe hes a strong 5'10...too many...lol how can ppl mix up a 5'7-5'8 guy with a 5'10 man
Brad said on 10/Jan/09
Miko is correct. I'm sure Frank2 has enough education to figure out what a guy in socks is next to him in shoes he knows what adds up to. This is sad. Like a 5th grader could do that. Nicholson hasn't seen 5' 9" since Nixon was in the White House. He's the same height as Sly. 1" on Hopper who I saw in a red carpet vid walking behind an interview looking god short these days. He's really looking bad now. Last time I checked it said 5' 9" as the listed height for Sly on this site. Thank god it hasn't gone higher.
GUK said on 10/Jan/09
I think Rob has his height correct. I'm just under 5ft 11 and can reach 6ft in normal shoes. Sly needs his munsters to reach 6ft, therfore he can't be more than 5ft 9.5 max, he's not short he just needs help to appear tall.
RisingForce said on 10/Jan/09
Yeah guyfrommars and look at the shoes he's wearing in the beach scenes.
Click HereThose add all of maybe half an inch or 0.6 inches. Look at him training in those next to Carl Weathers.
For the billionith time here he is in slippers next to Carl Weathers who was over 6-1 and possibly 6-2 or close to it in his prime.
Click HereI took out the slight angle that had previously favored Sly. Regardless even if Weathers stood up straight Sly would look every bit of his 5-10 3/4 claim.
Whgile Sly wore big heeled boots in many scenes in Rocky he also wore slippers in one scene and Converse shoes(0.55 inches) in MANY other scenes.
So no a 5-10 3/4 man getting listed at 5-11 is not the biggest joke.
RisingForce said on 10/Jan/09
Brad, Frank2 was in 1 inch shoes when he saw Sly in socks so no they wouldn't have been the same height either way.
Sly had 1.5" minimum on 5-9 Jack Nicholson on the same day in golf shoes and I'd say 2+ minimum on Hopper when you consider the pavement or photo tilt on Sly's posture.
Look at Sly with Dolph Lundgren, that's not a 5'8.5" man looking only 3 inches shorter than Dolph.
guyfrommars said on 10/Jan/09
Sly is a big fake when it comes to height. He can't admit he's 5ft9 (or even 5ft7). The biggest joke was in "Rocky Balboa" when they show a statistic about Rocky and his opponent and he's listed as (hahaha...) 5ft11. In "Rocky III" just look at the boots he's wearing with his tuxedo in some scenes (2.5 inch heels...). He's a big joke.
Dural said on 10/Jan/09
Just take a look at pictures he
glenn said on 10/Jan/09
now thats more like it.5-7 for sly.ive been told and sold by the experts.you guys won me over.
The Game said on 10/Jan/09
Sylvester Stallone is 5'7". Even his own younger brother Frank has said that Sly is only 5'7" when people have asked him on different talk shows like Howard Stern and Danny Bonaduce.
Brad said on 9/Jan/09
I think Hogan knows what 5' 8" looks like in barefeet, his wife. Look at Sly with a 5' 7" Dennis Hopper, now with a (I think) 5' 7" Glenn getting totally owned by 4". Hey Rising, it doesn't add. Think about it. Frank2 isn't blind. At 5' 10.75" Sly would be literally his own height. He wasn't. Frank2 was taller than he was. Mamun wasn't clearly mistaken. Look at the above photo, now Dennis Hopper with Sly...keep in mind Hopper is 5' 7". Both in golf shoes.
derek d said on 9/Jan/09
Annoyed: good post.... This shows he is clearly not 5'7.5 or 5'8.5 since he tends to look around 5'11.5 - 6 ft in what usually looks like 3 inch shoes... stallone would be hitting close to 6'2 all the time if he was 5'10 or 5'10.75.... I think 5'9 - 5'9.5 barefoot sounds good, which in reality is not even that short.
Anonymous said on 9/Jan/09
Sly is clearly taller than Nicholson, he is in the 6'1" in shoes.
ACG said on 9/Jan/09
look at the Carl Weathers page....there is a true 5'9 man with Carl.
Now look at the picture of Stallone with Weathers- any questions??
gazza said on 9/Jan/09
look at stallone and kurt russell. tango and cash. kurt is 5'9" same height as sly
RisingForce said on 9/Jan/09
Great point about Downey Annoyed.
I've posted a picture many times of Sly and 6'1" Tom Arnold with pretty equal posture and Sly looks a hair taller.
On the Downey page I posted pictures of Downey and 6'1" Keanu Reeves. Downey is wearer thicker shoes than Sly was and he's standing as tall as possible while Reeves is slouching and Keanu is still 2-3 inches taller.
Downey is probably a solid 5'8 1/2" in the morning and yet he has no chance of looking near a 6'1" guys height even with the thickest, ugliest shoes and a big posture advantage. Sly on the other hand can look 6'1"+ and it's not that uncommon for him either.
miko said on 9/Jan/09
In Sly's biggest munsters, I can see him getting 3.5" inches from them. Its more than possible to gain this amount from footwear and with Sly's $$$ I'm sure he does.
He looks so "false" in next to normal guys in normal footwear. A small man reaching heights he shouldn't be.
From all the evidence posted on here, its puts him inbetween 5"8.5 and 5"9.5, which adds up to Rob's very fair 5"9 listing.
Danimal said on 9/Jan/09
Vegas, Sly is closer to the camera in that pic and his hat is making him look taller than he really is. I wonder if someone can superimpose my pic with Trigg and that of Sly's with Trigg? I don't think Sly would be that much taller than me. Take into account that I am 2" taller than Glenn (morning height), so if you put me in that above pic with Sly (the one where Glenn's hair is down, I would be the same height as Sly (thereabouts).
Christian said on 9/Jan/09
Look at the third video with Sly and Nicholson. Sly is a good inch taller, maybe 1.5 inches. Nicholson with shoes is maybe 5'9
Christian said on 9/Jan/09
First of all I have changed my name from Chris to Christian. I have been on these page since 2004 so I am not new here. I changed because there is a lot of Chris here.
Anyway, look at these clips, they are great. Sly looks about 5'11
Annoyed said on 9/Jan/09
Danimal is right . Although I think Stallone is 5'10.5" morning height, 5'10" most of the day and 5'9.75" - 5'9.5" evening.
If your 5'8" you just CANT look anywere near 6 foot repeatedly. Its hard enough to look 5'11" !! ask Robert Downey Jr !
here is another look at what I myself can achieve in massive elevator shoes;
my evening height:
Click Heresecond, the shoes i am wearing in the pic :
Click Hereand finally my gain in 3 different stges of footwear:
Click HereSo as you can see, in massive, hideous elevator shoes with a 3" heel, the most I can get is 2" clean, now assume Stallone wasto go that extra mile and walk practically on his tip toes and in bigger shoes, he would be able to get what, 3" max. So for him to go from 5'8" to 6'0" and 6'1" just simply isnt feasable.
It isnt about saying "someone is wrong" and "someone is right" , it is just about the truth!
alas someone will say " but he is rich and could easilly get custom shoes built" without even a shred of logic being used with regard to the mechanics of elevator shoes. read robs "Elevator Shoe" article all of you who think Stallone is 5'7" and 5'8".
Vegas said on 9/Jan/09
Danimal says on 9/Jan/09
HOGAN'S WIFE (gf at the time...LINDA) was at least 5'8", so yes I'm sure he knew what 5'8" looked like, seeing Mean Gene Okerlund was also around 5'8".
hogan is good friends with shaq and yet he claims kevin nash is 7ft 2 when its clearly obvious to everyone nash could never be 7ft 2 if shaq is 7ft 1, on an episode of HKB hogan describes his daughter as 6ft1 to a cop and don't forget he described himself as 6ft5 on that show
danimal what is your opinion of the trigg photo with sly, he sure looks at least 6ft in shoes there next to trigg don't you think
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RisingForce said on 9/Jan/09
Do you honestly think that when Hulk was looking at Sly he was thinking exactly where Linda came up to on him in comparison to where Sly does? Who knows if Hulk even knew how tall Linda was at the time.
Another person mentioned many of Hulk's ridiculous claims as well. He claimed many wrestlers were taller and heavier than they really were because they were interesting stories. Sly being 5'8" is also a story that many would find interesting so he'd have the same reason to lie about that.
I think it's likely that Hulk thought Sly looked short(and who wouldn't compared to Hulk?) and then just said he was 5'8" without trying to make an accurate estimation.
Brad, using your logic....how could Glenn, Leung and Gonzalo all have been wrong? How could Glenn be wrong having meeting him over a dozen times in all kinds of footwear and having 2 pictures with him? You shot yourself in the foot with that argument Brad.
Glenn is still easily the best source we have as far as Sly's height.
Danimal said on 9/Jan/09
RisingForce says on 7/Jan/09
Brad, Hulk was 6 foot 6 so I don't trust his estimate on Sly's height. Even at 5'10.75" Sly wouldn't be higher than Hulk's mouth and I doubt Hulk would know how many inches that was. Another poster also pointed out Hulk's other exaggerations so he isn't reliable for a few reasons. Frank2 said 5'7" not 5'8" too. He said 5'8" was possible but that he thought Sly was most likely 5'7".
Glenn not only saw him at 5'10.75" in sandals but he had a picture that backed up his estimate 100%. That's better than anyone else. Leung also saw him and said that he was easily 6'1" in lifts and that worst case he's a weak 5'10", and he means evening height. Gonzalo saw him in normal sneakers and said Sly looked 5'10 1/2" minimum or 5'10 3/4". Don't act like the tall sightings don't exist. Once again Glenn has met him more than a dozen times, saw him at 5'10 3/4" in sandals, 6 foot in dress shoes and atleast 6'1" several times in lifts. Not only that he had two pictures to back up his sightings. Glenn is an expert as far as Sly's height and the best source we have.
Of course I realize that Sly has lifts in his shoes but he didn't have lifts in sandals, barefeet, golf shoes or slippers. There are numerous pictures of him looking 5'10 3/4" with that footwear(or lack thereof).
The only good beach shot for height comparison showed him looking nearly 5 foot 11 with his 5'9" wife. Look at him barefoot with Kurt Russell who is not less than a strong 5'9". Sly is not any shorter despite Kurt's big hair. Many people including myself thought Sly had atleast an inch on Kurt barefoot. Look at him in slippers next to Carl Weathers, easily 5'10 3/4".
HOGAN'S WIFE (gf at the time...LINDA) was at least 5'8", so yes I'm sure he knew what 5'8" looked like, seeing Mean Gene Okerlund was also around 5'8".
Brad said on 8/Jan/09
"Clearly mistaken"? How can Frank2 & Mamun be off so much? You just add the distance. At just under 5' 11" Frank2 would see about zero and Mamun would be looking up. I'd go wild if I had that in front of me reading 5' 10.75" by others. Mamun takes the silent approach to this one. At least Rob has him at 5' 9" which is about Sly with a belly suck-in effect. Cinematographers can make Sly anything with angles. They made Robert Conrad look 6' when he was the smallest lead in all of CBS' shows in '66 not to mention a separate comedy show with his cowboy boots the star.
Leung said on 8/Jan/09
RisingForce,
Some people don
glenn said on 8/Jan/09
mamun is clearly mistaken.i love mamun to death,but i know he is wrong.even 5-8 believers here think 5-7 is too low.
Big T said on 8/Jan/09
Great post Annoyed
Not enough people are prepared to change their minds in the face of overwhelming evidence
Having come here with no preconceptions I now think Sly is about 5'10"....it's really the only plausible answer faced with all the evidence
TELLEM said on 7/Jan/09
mamun saw him at 5'7...isn't mamun 5'8? frank2 is 5'11...he saw sly 3-4 inches shorter than him...several other sightings peg him at 5'7-5'8...and rob has him at 5'9
glenn said on 7/Jan/09
annoyed-outstanding post.spelling not needed as you write better than me,and a few here.you really put a point across well.better than the cavemen here.that includes me as caveman.lol.
glenn said on 7/Jan/09
zach-thanks for responding.i was hoping you didnt ignore me.lol.i kinda figured that you missed it until now.yes,we need to be respectful.i think my downfall was needed to teach us all a lesson.lord knows i can come out strong,and still can.so,i just took what you said the wrong way.no worries.good to see you around still.we need intelligence from the other side(5-8ish believers).lol.
Steve said on 7/Jan/09
mamun also saw sly at 5'7/8 don't forget. risingforce you've been promoting as tall a sly as possible since the first day you came on here.
glenn said on 7/Jan/09
mid-wish i could see that pic.it wont pop up on my phone.every other pic does.ill check on a pc later.thanks.
glenn said on 7/Jan/09
exactly leonari.its amazing how sly can look 5-7 to 6-2,depending on who is guessing or what pic you look at.of course 6-2 is rare.only around dolph,maybe one other person too.6ft is common for sly.cut that in the middle and you get 5-10.he isnt 5-11 or over when he wakes.he is 5-10.75 when he wakes.5-10 is his real height,if you dont count morning.
glenn said on 7/Jan/09
no but he is 5-10 flat for most of the day.hogan at 6-3.5 to 6-7,wouldnt possibly make a mistake would he? i said frank2 made mistakes.he said 5-7.i dont make mistakes on the ones im stubborn on.i make mistakes on one encounters like neyo(who couldve fooled me with footwear),celebs i havnt seen in over a decade and women.
RisingForce said on 7/Jan/09
Brad, Hulk was 6 foot 6 so I don't trust his estimate on Sly's height. Even at 5'10.75" Sly wouldn't be higher than Hulk's mouth and I doubt Hulk would know how many inches that was. Another poster also pointed out Hulk's other exaggerations so he isn't reliable for a few reasons. Frank2 said 5'7" not 5'8" too. He said 5'8" was possible but that he thought Sly was most likely 5'7".
Glenn not only saw him at 5'10.75" in sandals but he had a picture that backed up his estimate 100%. That's better than anyone else. Leung also saw him and said that he was easily 6'1" in lifts and that worst case he's a weak 5'10", and he means evening height. Gonzalo saw him in normal sneakers and said Sly looked 5'10 1/2" minimum or 5'10 3/4". Don't act like the tall sightings don't exist. Once again Glenn has met him more than a dozen times, saw him at 5'10 3/4" in sandals, 6 foot in dress shoes and atleast 6'1" several times in lifts. Not only that he had two pictures to back up his sightings. Glenn is an expert as far as Sly's height and the best source we have.
Of course I realize that Sly has lifts in his shoes but he didn't have lifts in sandals, barefeet, golf shoes or slippers. There are numerous pictures of him looking 5'10 3/4" with that footwear(or lack thereof).
The only good beach shot for height comparison showed him looking nearly 5 foot 11 with his 5'9" wife. Look at him barefoot with Kurt Russell who is not less than a strong 5'9". Sly is not any shorter despite Kurt's big hair. Many people including myself thought Sly had atleast an inch on Kurt barefoot. Look at him in slippers next to Carl Weathers, easily 5'10 3/4".
Brad said on 7/Jan/09
Frank2 saw him in what? No shoes at 5' 8"? Hulk: 5' 8" in his own autobiography and we have Glenn saying 5' 10.75" in sandals. Now how can we have three people differ so much? Rising doesn't realize that Sly has custom wedges in his shoes. He's Sly. There are enough beach shots to prove he isn't 5' 10.75".
RisingForce said on 7/Jan/09
Here is the Downey comparison that Annoyed is referring to.
Their ankle position is about even
Click HereEven with better posture, Downey's head doesn't even reach Sly's hairline. That tells me the difference is no less than 2 inches.
Click HereClick HereDowney was photographed looking 5-9 next to a height chart in 1 inch standard prison shoes midday. Meaning midday/evening height he's roughly 5-8.
That would mean he wakes at 5-8.5 and Sly is a good 2 inches taller backing up what I've been saying about Sly being 5-10.5/5-10.75 out of bed.
Regarding Glenn's ability to judge height well with Sly his photos back up his estimates.
Glenn is 5-7 in the earlier picture and 5-8 in the recent picture. In the earlier picture Sly was wearing sandals meaning it's almost guaranteed that he didn't have a footwear advantage on Glenn. In the mroe recent picture Sly was wearing what appeared to be normal shoes to Glenn. Glenn admitted to tip toeing in the earlier picture.
Click HereI don't think many would argue that Sly looks 5-10.75 in the picture on the right with 5-7 Glenn. He looks around that mark again in the other picture with 5-8 Glenn as well.
Glenn's pictures back up his estimate so it does seem that his estimation of Sly was accurate. If I'm not mistaken he has met Sly well over a dozen times so I trust what he says. We've had other in person estimates from posters here that back up Sly at 5-10. Leung who if I'm not mistaken goes by midday/evening height estimated Sly at 5-10 in person. That'd put him right around 5-10.5/5-10.75 morning height. Gonzalo saw Sly in what looked like normal shoes and said he looked 5-10.75.
Like Annoyed, I believed Sly was a short guy at around 5-7 or 5-8 for years because that's what I've always heard but as I've learned more abotu height I've become pretty sure that he's 5-10 or taller. So I'm not basing him being 50 or taller on any bias but that's what he honestly seems to me and as I said I use to think he was much shorter.
RisingForce said on 7/Jan/09
Mickey, the difference to me is that with the Willis picture we have poses from the same day of them in a more normal pose for height comparison and Sly looking taller. In the Flavin picture we can also see their entire bodies and looking at their entire bodies I get the impression that Sly is the taller one.
Bruce and Sly are doing a specific pose which is Sly's fist under Bruce's chin. If Sly was taller that night or even the same night he may have to bend his knees to get his fist under Bruce's chin or Bruce might have to tip toe a bit to get his chin above Sly's fist. To see what I'm talking about, try this pose with someone your height or taller.
Those are the only explanations I can think of for Sly going from this
Click HereClick Hereto this
Click HereThey're both standing very close together in each picture and yet Sly drops from half an inch taller to an inch and a half shorter. How else could he lose 2 full inches? What he'd lose from the ground would be minimal considering they're close in each picture.
Jennifer also seems to be stretching her neck more in the picture with Sly than Sly does with Willis, but it's hard to tell. I get your more point regardless. However it's different because Sly's entire body seems longer to me and Jennifer's head ends up lower on Sly's head than Sly's does on Willis' head.
If you draw a line from the top of Jennifer's head it pretty much comes a little above Sly's eyebrows meaning about 3 inches before factoring anything. Sly's head comes well above Bruce's eyebrows and it looks like an inch and a half difference max.
By the way even if you tilt the picture to take away any possible advantage for Sly as far as gorund or angle, he still looks 2-3 inches taller. Then it just becomes a matter of how much she's losing by bending her knees vs how much she gains by stretching her neck. Unless you're borderline squating you aren't going to lose 2 inches by bending your knees. Factoring in everything, I can't see him less than an inch taller there.
He looks every bit of 5-10.75 to me in the beach picture, even considering every advantage.
Annoyed said on 7/Jan/09
Is it just me or has there recently been a steady decline in the 5'7"-5'8" estimates? 5'8.5" seems to be the new popular "low" figure. Could it be that we are slowly encouraging people to accept the evidence that the guy is PROBABLY no shorter than 5'9" ( I would be suprised if he was as short as 5'9" but I guess it is feasable ) . My own opinion though is one that has been formed by looking at ALL the evidence. When I first came onto this website as a novel wee point of interest, I soon got hooked. The debates and the evidence gathering, the compliments and attacks, it is like a microcozm of real life. Anyway, my original estimate for Stallone was about 5'7", this was because of all the times I'd read he was "short" and all the references to Stallones "massive shoes" etc. However with time, I noticed that too many pics had him matching up with guys between 5'11" and 6'1". Now logic tells you, that with 3" being the largest concievable gain you can get from ANY elevator shoe ( and these are monstrous and hideous and un-concealable ) and that 2" is usually the largest that is even remotely concealable ( check my elevator shoe piece from ages ago on this thread ) that he would have to be within 2" of the 5'11" he easilly matches and this is A BARE MINIMUM. So even just through pics with other celebs , even when factoring in elevator shoes, the BARE MINIMUM he could possibley be is 5'9" . HOWEVER, the regularity with which the guy can line up equal with 6 footers suggests he is more likelly around the 5'10" mark. This was what I got from just the pictures ( my opinion ) . Then, I looked at the testimoney and photographic evidence of Glenn, depending on Glenn's ability to gauge height visually, something that is pretty hard, we could put him to within 1/2" either way of Glenns estimations. Yet more evidence for the guy being around 5'10". Then my own friend who works in London Heathrow who has stood with Stallone barefoot and eye-to-eye said, "not that short but no bigger than 5'10" !" ( paraphrasing there ) . So once again the magic number of " around 5'10". " pops up again. My own opinion is that for most of the day he is a flat 5'10" . He starts the Day at 5'10.5" and ends the day at 5'9.5" or there-abouts. Now im not a fan-boy, and I used to champion a short Stallone also, but I changed my mind when faced with overwhelming evidence. I myself was very,very happy to be proven wrong, because when you are PROVEN wrong , you then are left....with the truth. The truth that the man cannot concievably be 5'7" and 5'8". The fact that 5'9" just about COULD be the shortest he could ever be and that MOST of the evidence puts him into the 5'10" bracket.
However, very few people revel in being wrong and perhaps there is an element of ego among some people, this is fine, it is their own perrogative..............but imagine how enlightening it is to be wrong, it's actually pretty good.
I think there are people who champion a taller Stallone and sometimes at detrament to their argument, this too is fine. I think everyone has to take a step back and come undone from the stances that restrict us. If I can go from a 5'7" purveyor to an advocate of 5'10" then I'm sure anyone can.
Also Lemon, yes, that pic of Stallone and Robert Downey Jr has been posted. Both are wearing what appears to be the same brand of elevator shoe, theyre ankles are visible in a pic of both of them sitting down, I think Rising has it, also Downey has superior posture than Stallone and the difference is still an easy 2" in Stallones favour ! We know from the Mugshot of Downey alone that he is a weak 5'9" in prison shoes and 5'8" Barefoot and midday so the maths shouldnt be too complex. 5'8" + 2" = 5'10". There we have the 5'10" bracket again.
Hopefully though, someone will attack me as usually happens and tell me that Stallone "MUST" be 5'6" or something equidistantly stupid ( i.e. 5'7" which IS as stupid as 5'6" )
Anyway I think there is some progress being made and lets keep the debates friendly. Apologies for my spelling as it is my Acholis Howl ( joke ! ) I am a much better speaker than speller.
Lemon said on 7/Jan/09
RisingForce, Sly's shoes are the same he wore when I saw him here in Italy, "Hogan shoes", which give you 2 inches from your barefoot height.
RisingForce said on 7/Jan/09
And Sly has no posture advantage there either. In fact he seems to be slouching. Trigg's head right now comes just above Sly's eyebrows meaning probably atleast a 3.5 inch difference. I'd say that Sly was 4 inches tlaler in whatever footwear he was in that night.
Sly seemed to be in elevator shoes that night but they weren't his biggest. I'd be surprised if he got 3 inches from them.
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Vegas said on 7/Jan/09
sly has about 2 inches more on trigg in that photo than danimal does in his photo with trigg, either way sly is looking at least 6ft with trigg as trigg will be no less than 5ft9 in shoes
Mickey said on 7/Jan/09
I see he is barefoot, good find RF.
Now for my view. When i posted the pics of Sly and Bruce Willis with Willis being about 2 inches taller you said "sly is most likely bending his knees". But Sly's neck is stretched upwards, just like Jennifer in the beach pic. So going by that Sly would still be shorter in my pics as he is stretching his neck out?
RisingForce said on 7/Jan/09
Sly is leaning a bit with Trigg but he still has 3-4 inches on him. Danimal said Trigg looked around 5-9 in the morning when he met him too.
As far as beach pictures, yeah well they can be really bad at times, especially when they're taken with people standing in the softer sand. However in the picture I posted it seems Jennifer is standing on firm sand, the problem there seems to be the little slope. I think that makes a difference, but not a huge difference as Sly is standing just centimeters away on the same slope.
glenn said on 7/Jan/09
true leonari.barefoot pics of him are gold.so i know why you posted them.no problem leonari,thats how i feel of you,risingforce,annoyed and a couple others.even zach i feel writes worthwhile intelligent posts,despite perplexing me a few days ago.so i just dont give props to the 5-10 believers.
mId said on 6/Jan/09
The links to what they both have on their feet does not work with tinyurl.. I have the pictures saved so I guess i can host them.. otherwise just google pictures "frank trigg" and it's the first that comes up.. he has on boot-like fancy-shoe it looks like.. and for the stallone pic just google pictures "stallone premier resident" and I belive it's the second pic that comes up. he has on what looks like running shoes or something but they look big.. like something is hidden in there ;)
mId said on 6/Jan/09
here is a funny one glenn.. I know stallone has been rumored wearing lifts but here he is with 5'8" frank trigg.. some site lists frank as 5'9 but he is 5'8 on UFC official site and I belive he said 5'8 in some interview too. this site has him at 5'8 also..
Click Here /greetings from sweden
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 6/Jan/09
I'm really enjoy seeing the new pics you guys are posting in here. The pics of Sly and Arnold at the pig roast were a gem. Thanx leonari. Its nice to see everybody keeping the infighting to a minimum here these days. Oh yes "Sly". I think 5'9 is probably right, but 5'8.5-5'10 is not a stretch.
derek d said on 6/Jan/09
Yeah thats true RisingForce... Wish we knew her true height though.
Zach said on 6/Jan/09
Glenn - I just read your post below, and you're completely right. There's nothing wrong with criticising as long as its done respectfully. My original post wasnt aimed at you anyway, but I overreacted a little, my apologies.
And yes beach pictures are obviously atrocious to analyse precisely. Even when I posted the Bridgette Sly one I said it was just to give a sense of perspective. I'm not sure why it takes Glenn to come on here and spell it out that beach pics suck! A little bit of common sense tells you that. Leonari is right though, barefeet pics with Sly are a rarity.
RisingForce said on 6/Jan/09
Mickey and Kev check out this picture. It's from the same day as the other picture of Sly and Jennifer. It confirms that Sly was barefoot.
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RisingForce said on 6/Jan/09
I wouldn't say he's most likely not barefoot Mickey. He's already proven that he'll go on the beach barefoot. He's likely barefoot or in sandals.
I don't agree with your analysis Kev but you're entitled to your opinion.
The line shows that her head isn't much above her eyebrows meaning that she's 2.5 or 3 inches shorter before factoring in anything.
In my opinion she's losing an inch max from her knees being bent and an inch max from the ground. She's gaining back somewhere around an inch with her neck though. So in my opinion she's at a 1 inch disadvantage
Take away 1 inch or so from the height difference and he's still atleast 5-10.5 in my opinion. He just seems to give the impression of being taller than her there as well.
leonari said on 6/Jan/09
As I said Glenn: I agree that beach pics are the worst. BUT barefoot pics are interesting. To see the length of his legs is interesting compared to his "long" legs in lifts. I still say he is a 5'9.5 guys to 5'10". You gotta give me the possibility to disagree with you on 0.5- 0.75 inch. Thats 2 cm. It's nothing. I was raised by a father who doubts everything so until I see Stallone in front of me I will say he is 5'9.5-5'10 tops. Sure he could be 5'10'75 even during the day (which you don't even claim that he is). I hope you understand. As you say: the pics I posted prove that he can look shorter. If 5'8" believers only rely on those pics that only proves one thing: That they are narrow minded. Nothing more, nothing less. Take the pics where he looks 6 feet and above. Take the pics where he looks 5'8. Whats the average: Exactly... it's 5'9.5-5'10. Thats how my logic works so I say your height gauging is perfect. Well except for women as you admit yourself.
leonari said on 6/Jan/09
I agree with Glenn: Beach pics are among the worst photo evidence. Slopes and holes everywhere. I still post them cause barefoot pics of Sly are as rare as truffles. Thanks for the compliment Glenn. I appreciate it.
the shredder said on 6/Jan/09
Rob , If Sly was measured 5'10.75 In these shoes
Click Here ! what would that put him barefoot ?
Editor Rob
probably 5ft 10 or a 1/8th over it.
Lemon said on 6/Jan/09
I don't know if this pic was ever posted, but i found it pretty interesting:
Click HereSly always looked 5'10" to me. When he came to Italy I saw him from distance, in Hogan shoes, and seemed 6'0" minimum.
Mickey said on 6/Jan/09
Kev fair point about the shoes. Sly has been seen on the beach in shoes before. And he is pretty much fully clothed suggesting he is most likely not barefoot. No way to tell whats on his feet really.
glenn said on 6/Jan/09
kev-beach shots suck period.whether sly is 5-8 or 5-10.nothing against risingforce or leonari.at least they are great contributers to the site.whether it be photo wise or written.
glenn said on 6/Jan/09
the hector comment was even more genius in being funny.either way brad is original humor wise.
Kev said on 5/Jan/09
Rising,
I see few big problems with that beach picture with Flavin.
1. Ground level
Even though you cannot see Sly's feet, you can tell that the ground is obviously tilted in Stallone's favor. How? Even with that bushy thing obstructing the view, you can almost see Stallone's ankles. I don't think Stallone's knees are long enough to reach to where Flavin's feet are. Just picture Stallone's legs extending all the way down to Flavin's feet level. I don't think that would look natural. Plus we all agree that Stallone's not a long-legged guy to begin with, with that infamous beach Nielson serving as a strong evidence.
2. Stallone's feet
Is he barefoot? Wearing sandals? Flipflops? Little tiptoeing even? Nobody knows.
3. Let's for the sake of the argument assume that the ground is level AND stallone is barefoot. With that assumption out of the way, let's compare him to Flavin. Rising, while you are correct is saying that Flavin's straining neck gives her a maybe an inch, she's losing at least 2 inches with her bent leg and one inch with her bent back. Let's assume that the total height loss with that posture comes out to be -2 inch. This puts Flavin at 5'7 with that posture. EVEN with Stallone in his strongest military posture, he doesn't have any more than maybe 2 inches on her. As I said, this is all assuming they are on the same ground level, which I find very unlikely.
All in all, I believe that Sly is a solid 5'9 guy. Give or take 0.5 inch from that. But there are just too many evidences (pictures and rumors) against his supposed strong 5'10 claims.
RisingForce said on 5/Jan/09
derek d, if she's 5-6 then Sly could still be 5-10.75 there instead of 5-11. It's not like you could tell 4.25 from 4.5 in a picture anyway.
glenn said on 5/Jan/09
ill tell you what i think of your photos now leonari.initially i wasnt interested in responding.beach pics are the worse to judge and your feeding the 5-8 believers.nothing against you.but i am surprised that you finally learned how to post pics(which i dont know how to myself,nor have internet,so not a knock on you),and decide to pick pics where sly looks his shortest and has a certain someone frothing at the mouth.anyone can look shorter or taller than they really are.no matter how tall,say,bruce willis is.cause willis can look 5-11 to 6-1.yet he claims 6-1,and thats what i agree on.sly claims 5-10 3/4 or 5-10,and thats what i see in the flesh too.
glenn said on 5/Jan/09
no derek d.but he is or was 5-10.3/4 morning.5-10 average.5-11 flat,ever,no.
RisingForce said on 5/Jan/09
Brad, he has a slight ground advantage but Jennifer is stretching her neck WAY more than Sly is. The latter makes up for her bending her knees. The line I drew shows her head wasn't coming much above his eyebrows anyway. Take away the slight ground advantage and he'd still be near 2 inches taller.
I don't have to imagine Sly barefoot with Brigitte. Here he's most likely barefoot.
Click HereThat's exactly what a near 5-11 man should look like with someone around 6 feet. He looks like a man in the 5-10, 5-11 range with Jennifer as well.
Sly did "own" Jack here.
Click HereJack's eyes are at the bottom of Sly's nose. That's atleast 1.5", possibly more like 2". Jack is 5-8.5 or 5-9, you do the math.
He also doesn't wear lifts in all of his shoes in films. He wore Converse at times in every Rocky movie, I'd bet anything he didn't have lifts in those. He also most likely didn't have lifts in his boxing shoes, except for maybe in Rocky Balboa.
And what do you mean he has to wear lifts? Even if he were 5-8.5(which I doubt he is). There are plenty of actors under 5-8.5 who don't wear lifts.
RisingForce said on 5/Jan/09
Thanks Mickey. I honestly can't tell if he's standing straight in the shorter Jack picture but he seems to be slouching and have a ground(or photo) disadvantage with Hopper.
To me the Jack photo I posted makes sense. They both are standing as straight as possible with neither having a noticeable posture advantage. And the picture fits my previous estimates for the 2. Sly at 5-10.5, 5-10.75 and Jack at 5-8.5, 5-9.
Again that's just how I see it, I won't deny that Sly can look 5-9 though.
Brad said on 5/Jan/09
Those heeled Rocky Three things are pathetic. They scream out: "Hector! Celia es aqui!" Great beach shot Rising. He has the slope advantage and he has to strain up to kiss her. Imagine him with Brigette there instead of Jennifer. Sly wore lifts in Copland. He wears custom lifts in all his boots/shoes in films, he has to: he's 5' 8.5". Look at him with Jack & Dennis, one 5' 7" & the other 5' 8". A 5' 10 3/4" man would own Jack & Dennis BIG.
derek d said on 5/Jan/09
Everyone here who thinks Sly is 5'8.5 with the Jackie picture (assuming she is 5'4) is wrong. Does everyone forget that she is WEARING SANDALS. So with that 0.5 inch advantage, that puts Sly at 5'9 barefoot. And for everyone who thinks Jackie is 5'6, who is also forgetting she is wearing footwear, is also wrong because that would make Sly 5'11 barefoot. Which we know he is clearly not. So no way Jackie is 5'6 since Sly looking 4.5 inches taller considering her 0.5 advantage, which is why I believe she is 5'4 and Sly is 5'9.
leonari said on 5/Jan/09
Brad:Those heeled monsters left town at Puerto Rican discos at 191st Street and 8th Avenue in 1979.
HAHA.Amazing. So funny. Brad your heights are off but your quotes are more than legendary!
Mickey said on 5/Jan/09
Your free to believe that RF. I just see him standing straight in both the Hopper and Nicholson pictures taken on the same day and he looks the identical height with both of them. Barely taller then 5'8.5" Jack and about 1.5 inches taller than 5'7 Hopper, even if Hopper is 5'8 he is clearly slouching, making him 5'7 tops in the pic. It adds up in my opinion. Not ignoring your picture with Jack though.
RisingForce said on 5/Jan/09
Yeah Mickey but what I'm led to believe is that for that pose Sly wasn't standing his tallest, I believe he may have bveen standing more releaxed. That's the only way I can explain Sly looking so much taller in the picture where he and Jack both had perfect posture.
Brad, you need to forget 5'4" for Jackie. You just starting syaing 5'4" for her because it fits Sly at 5'8.5". In reality the only evidence so far places Jackie at 5-6 peak making Sly 5-10.5
Brad, what do you think of this picture with De Niro?
Click HereWhat do you think of this picture with Jennifer now Brad?
Click HereMake sure to look at her neck too.
Brad said on 5/Jan/09
Great photos Dural. My #1 photo with his 5' 4" mother. Look at him!!. He's 5.8.5" with Hopper & with DeNiro even if he unslouched. That beach photo is without question the shortest he's ever looked. If I didn't know it was him, I'd guess 5' 6" tops looking at him. Yes BBB he got caught BIG TIME in that commercial. He puts on the customs and he's back to normal. That Rocky Three photo with his goons is priceless. I just knew he'd still wear those massive heel customs in later films. Whatta joke and they have 2.5" wedges inside. He's so paranoid about his height that it is sick. Those heeled monsters left town at Puerto Rican discos at 191st Street and 8th Avenue in 1979. Keep puttin' up those classics Dural & Leonari: they spell reality. Yes Derek D, custom droppin' pants can cover wedged out anything. Sly wore pants so long to cover his Frankenstein boots you'd think he'd trip on the bottoms. Pitt is an expert with the pants over the big boots thing.
bam said on 5/Jan/09
leonardi is on the money.
derek d said on 5/Jan/09
For those who don't know that much about lifts, just because shoes appear normal and are in fact normal shoes, doesn't mean there is no lifts inside of them. Its impossible to know if Sly has lifts in those "normal golf shoes". While its obvious their not 3 inches he could of easily slipped a 1.5 in. insole into it and would still appear normal. True, his foot would be slightly hang out of the shoe more than it should be but he has pants to take care of that. I'm not one of these posters thats trying to make him look as short as possible, I just think he's around 5'9 as he's listed here.
Mickey said on 5/Jan/09
Click HereSly and Jack(who is most likely closer to 5'8.5" these days then 5'9") look virtually the same height here. Standing closer together in this pic than in your one on the same day. Sly standing straighter. Not definative proof Sly is 5'9" or less but surely looks far from 5'10"+ here.
RisingForce said on 4/Jan/09
Dural, look at my side by side De Niro picture. Sly is slouching and still visibly taller(about an inch or 2 taller). That's a good rare picture you found but Sly is really hunched over.
Good find of Sly and his mother but both of their knees are bent. I think this picture is better for comparing them from that same day.
Click HereSly looks 4.5" taller(as Brad always mentions) but unlike what Brad says, the only evidence so far puts Jackie at 5-6.
Great find with Hopper but if you look at the backround it does seem that either the pavement is uneven or the photo is tilted slightly. If you don't believe me, look at the people in the backround and look at the line in the pavement.
Look at it if you even it according to the line in the pavement
Click HereThe picture may actually still favor Hopper but I didn't want to adjust it too much. Hopper's shoes also seem thicker if you look at the heel and Sly is visibly slouching. Don't forget that Glenn says Hopper is 5-8 as well.
That's just how I see that picture, I'm not forcing that belief on anyone, just explaining how I viewed it.
That also confirmed that Sly was in liftless golf shoes for this picture.
Click HereNicholson is 5-8.5 or 5-9 and Sly is 1.5" or 2" taller putitng him in the 5-10 to 5-11 range in confirmed golf shoes.
leonari regarding Sly's height I always maintained that when I sid Sly was 5-10.5, 5-10.75 I meant waking up so even you calling him 5-9.5 for the entire day is only about half an inch different than my estimate.
The 5-9.5 figure comes up alot.
Bill Pruitt who did the Sly painting told me 5-9.5 or 5-10.
Tommy Morrison told Mamun that Sly is 5-9.5
Jimmy Carter(who interviews many celebrities told me Sly is probably 5-9 or 5-10
David Morell(author of First Blood) told me that when he met Sly he got the impression that he was 5-9.5 but looked taller because of his boots.
JT who posts here said when he met Sly on the golf course that he looked 5-9 or 5-9.5
Rob has said in the past that he's considered upgrading Sly slightly and giving him 5-9.5 would make a lot of sense.
However I still think he's 5-10 throughout the day. I just can't see him the same height or shorter than
Matt Damon who I think wakes at about 5-10.
Either way our estimates are only half an inch or even a quarter inch different. I give Sly 5-10.5 or 5-10.75 out of bed. I just think that Glenn meeting him I think 17 times in all kinds of footwear and having a couple of pictures is the best evidence.
leonari said on 4/Jan/09
Rising: Well I kinda agree. But the more I see the more I tend to the 5'9.5 during most of the day. It would just make sense. It explains the short sightings. It's not short but short enough to be seen as short especially with all the muscles he is/was carrying in the last 30 years. It's tall enough to reach 6 feet in serious lifts/boots. Factor in his amazing posture compared to folks who are actually taller than him without lifts (Arnold,Bruce) but have worst posture and there you go. I changed my mind: To me he is a very solid 5'9.5 meaning he never goes lower than that at any point of the day. He probably does wake close to 5'10.25. So he was never really lying about his height.
Thats my story and I stick to it.
leonari said on 4/Jan/09
Thanks Mickey. I appreciate it.
RisingForce said on 4/Jan/09
As far as Carl well even Ron says he was likely taller than 6-1 peak on Carl's page. Carl was about 6-1.5 minimum and listed 6-2 or 6-3 during his football career. Carl and Arnold each looked taller than eachother at times in Predator.
I still think that for judging Sly and Carl's height, Rocky 3 is the best. Running on the beach in flat shoes(Converse?), training in flat boxing shoes and of course slippers.
Here is the picture with the tilt removed
Click HereSly is still just about 1.5" or 2" shorter so if their posture was equal the difference surely wouldn't be any more than 3".
Dural said on 4/Jan/09
Sly & his mother posing
Click HereSly & Dennis Hopper (the full body pic)
Click HereSly & DeNiro (I know Rising we can't see their feet and I don't think DeNiro is taller)
Click Here
Mickey said on 4/Jan/09
Some awesome pics in there Leonari. Quite a bit shorter then Mr T, who is supposedly 5'10ish?(not 100% sure). If that is Burt Young to the left, he almost looks the same height as Sly... 5'8ish Burt's shoulders are higher then Sly's, and Sly is wearing shoulder pads.
With the beach pics, Sly doesn't have the best posture and is in mid stride. But has camera advantage. Probably not the most definitive pics but i'd say he doesn't look 5'10" in those. Nice rare pics of Sly barefoot though.
I see about a 4inch difference with Sly and Carl. Carl is looking down, moreso then Sly. 6'1" Carl minus 4 = 5'9" Sly. Carl's shoulders are several inches above Sly's too.
RisingForce said on 4/Jan/09
leonari, the guy who does the painting told me in an email that he thinks Sly is 5-9.5 or 5-10 and "no more, no less". I posted it a while ago here.
Here is another picture of Sly and Arnie from that same day where I posted the mid-stride picture where they looked the same height.
Click HereNeither are standing at their straightest but they look about the same height. Arnie is tilting his head up more though. Sly's shoes give him about 0.75" more than Arnie's.
Sly not standing straight and looking an inch or 2 taller than 5-9 Robert De Niro.
Click HereAnd of course nobody can forget this picture of Sly and Brigitte almost surely both barefoot.
Click HereI'm sorry Brad, but thinking Sly as shorter than Jennifer here is delusional.
Click HereHe's gaining a little from the beach and her betting her knees but he's losing a little from her neck being much straighter and tilted up more. He's 1-2 inches taller considering everything.
BBB said on 4/Jan/09
Just saw Rocky 2 again. Theres a scene where sly is barefoot doing a caveman commercial for deoderant or something...forgot. But he was barefoot and only a few inches taller than Adrian but lots taller in his special footwear....
dean said on 3/Jan/09
nah sylvesters definatly taller than 5 ft 9 if kurt russel is 5 ft 9, cause in tango and cash sly was taller than him by about a qaurter of an inch or half.
leonari said on 3/Jan/09
Difabrizio is surely not lying that he did shoes for Sly and many other stars. 4.5 inches? Nahhh.Never. Thats his grief over the 2900.- dollars talking. He surely boosted him 2.5-2.75 and made it look "good". I have no doubt about it.
leonari said on 3/Jan/09
This picture looks strange... but he surely looks small walking on the beach in flat shoes:
Click Here
leonari said on 3/Jan/09
This guy on the pic( he did the paining you see in this picture) ) here with Stallone claims to be 5'8". Sly seems to wear the same shoes as he did in the Antonio Tarver fight(??). Sly seems closer to the cam with better posture.
Click Here
leonari said on 3/Jan/09
Here some other gems from the Rocky III and Rocky IV era:
With Rocky III cast: (Mr.T in boots):
Click HereSly way shorter than Weathers in flat shoes:
Click HereSly,Weathers,Mr.T :
Click HereTake a look at those heels when Sly was wearing a suit in Rocky III:
Click HereClick HerePumped up like crazy he sure looks short standing on his own:
Click HereHave fun folks.
leonari said on 3/Jan/09
OK guys when Rising is coming with beach barefoot pics I also gotta bring my newest beach barefoot pics to the site.
Here we go folks:
Click HereClick HereClick Here Sly does not look 5'10.5 if you ask me... But everybody is entitled to their opinion. The ground is probably flatter in Risings pics but in these you really see them head to toe. Hope you enjoy them.
Whats your opinion Mickey, Rising, Kev, Glenn,Rob?
Brad said on 3/Jan/09
That beach photo is a clssic. Beach advantage & Flavin bending plus he's straining his legs to get taller. He's 5' 8.5" & Jennifer is 5' 9". Look at Shatner's Star Trek boots, he doesn't lie, they were 3". Stallone has the big wedge.
RisingForce said on 3/Jan/09
I'm sorry Kev, but I can't see any possible way he's shorter there. She's losing some height by bending her knees but gaining some back by stretching her neck and tilting her head up.
I simply think he looks 5-10+ there. Certainly not udner 5-9 there.
Kev said on 3/Jan/09
Mickey,
I can't agree with you more. Even in the unlikely scenario that both ARE on the same ground level, it is obvious that Stallone has a pretty big posture advantage as he has his usual military posture while flavin is bending her legs by quite a bit. Even with the posture advantage, Stallone only looks maybe an inch, inch and a half tops taller in that picture. if stallone pushes 5'11, he should noticeably tower over flavin (who would be 5'7 ish tops by bending her legs) but that's hardly the case.
it wouldn't shock me at all if they are of the same height if flavin stood up straight and that's not even counting the likely ground advantage that stallone has. Which points to stallone might being even shorter that flavin, rendering the 5'8 claims not so far-fetchd after all.
great find RF.
RisingForce said on 3/Jan/09
Mickey, she's also tilting her head up and stretching her neck out. So while she's losing height by bending her knees, she's also gainign it by stretching her neck and tilting her head up.
I personally think he looks taller there regardless but everyone is entitled to their opinion. You make a good point about her knees but considering her neck I'd say Sly is still an inch or 2 taller.
Zach, only shoes that are thick in the front can get 4 or more inches. Otherwise you're only standing as high as you can comfortably on your toes. Try standing 4-5 inches on your toes. Sly's shoes generally are mostly just thick in the heel. An example of thick shoes in the front are RobertDowney jr. and
Vin Diesel. Frank2 also was referring to 1980/1981. Di Fabrizio claims Sly became one of his customers when he was with Brigitte Nielsen around 1985.
Di Fabrizio may have a reason to lie about Sly's height. He's upset about Sly not paying him 2900 dollars that he feels he's owed.
It takes time. But after a while, di Fabrizio is chatting about Sylvester Stallone -- specifically how the droopy-eyed lug allegedly stiffed him for $2,900 for a pair of navy blue dress shoes -- when he finally spills.
Click HereSo I'll take his words with a grain of salt regarding Sly. He does have a reason to lie.
Mickey said on 3/Jan/09
RF thats a nice rare picture. He might have slight ground advantage but what he definitely has is posture advantage. Flavin's knees are clearly bent. You would pick up on the same thing if i posted a picture like this. If Flavin is truely 5'9", then i don't think it would be too hard to see her as the same height as Sly if she straightened up. My opinion. Great picture though.
Zach said on 3/Jan/09
JTRoN you don't have to believe Frank's statement, no he didn't pull out his digital camera fone in the early 80s to take a quick picture with Sly in the brief moments he was barefeet, much in the same way you can't see sandals in the picture above. Point being if you actually read the accounts of Glenn and Frank (and Mamun too for that matter) you'd realise all three are genuine, honest guys. Whether you agree with their estimates or not is a completely different matter altogether, a subjective point around which the existence of this entire site revolves around.
From Rob's FAQ page:
"The thousand+ encounters Glenn has had are real, as are the Mr R (actor/professor) and Frank2 (retired Industry Professional) encounters scattered around the site."
Anyways I'm off again, too many long posts on this page to keep up with these days.
Zach said on 3/Jan/09
Wrong again Risingforce. There was even a regular poster on this forum called Ziggy who was 5'7 flat who got to 6ft with custom made boots, older posters here would remember him as a genuine guy who even posted pictures of his boots and talked extensively about the designs. And this was just a regular guy who paid that little extra, not the multimillions and three decades of trial and error that Sly has been through with elevator footwear.
Ziggy was also a customer of Di Fabrizio, the shoemaker quoted above who told him Sly was 5'8. I don't suppose a shoemaker whose sole purpose was to make Sly as tall as possible would know his height? No, that probably doesn't hold much logic with some on here.
glenn said on 3/Jan/09
thanks dural.glad you didnt take me the wrong way.i just took zach the wrong way,or rather dont understand his post.discussing is better than arguing or viciously fighting.sorry if i took it the wrong way zach.it was only me and risingforce talking about frank.so i felt slightly singled out,though you made a point in not anyone in particular.not many people there though.lol.
glenn said on 3/Jan/09
zach-with all due respect,does frank2s absence from the site mean we should refrain from talking about him? nobody is putting him down.i said repeatedy i admired his history,yet that is not enough.every post i mention something about the legends he met and how i admire him.if i was gone,and i was,surely people would put down my estimates,and they did.so im not clear to your quick defense towards frank2 when nobody attacked him.i was attacked left and right when i was
Banned.im not sure if you defended me,but a few did.im not saying i didnt deserve the backlash.i did to a point.nobody is talking behind franks back.we are merely discussing various estimates.i guess sandals isnt as good as barefoot.or colin farrel at 5-8.im going to end this by stating im not attacking you zach,just perplexed at the meaning of your post.maybe i read it wrong.peace.
glenn said on 3/Jan/09
or meet him.in stills he can look short.
glenn said on 3/Jan/09
exactly shredder.all one needs to do is watch the films.
the shredder said on 3/Jan/09
Rob , do you think 5'10 3/4 is what he measured in boxing shoes when filming Rocky ? ... Just watched the Rocky's and when Sly is in the flat boxing shoes he looks 5'10 - 5'11 range next to all the cast Carl Weathers , Burt Young , and if Tony Burton is 6'0 then Sly in flat boxing shoes looks legit 5'10.5 ! ...
I think you should upgrade him , I don't see how have him 5'9 when he is pretty much atleast 5'9.75 -5'10 !
JeffC said on 2/Jan/09
Hey Frank2 if you read this I wish you a great 2009 and I hope you come back again. We missed your comments and stories.
RisingForce said on 2/Jan/09
A rare barefoot picture of Sly and his 5-9 wife on the beach.
Click HereHe may have a slight ground advantage but he's clearly taller there.
RisingForce said on 2/Jan/09
Zach, Glenn saw Sly in sandals. Virtually the same thing as barefoot and unlike Frank2 he has a picture which backs up his estimate from that ngiht. Glenn's picture suggests that his estimate was pretty accurate because it showed him looking what Glenn claimed he looked.
Zach, all I said was that Frank2's sightings of Sly looking as tall or taller than him in cowboy boots contradicts his 5-7 sighting. It's impossible for a 5-7 man to be that tall in cowboy boots, or even a 5-8 man. Even with lifts he'd have to be atleast 5-9ish to look that tall in cowboy boots.
Frank2's sightings clearly contradicted eachother.
JTRoN said on 2/Jan/09
Zach does Frank2 have proof of that? maybe he met him maybe he did but not barefoot, either way without proof I don't believe much of that statement. Based on all the pictures and movies I've seen of Sly my "guess" would be his height listed here. My roommate is a 5'9 - 5'9.5 and at times can look like a 5'10 guy with decent heel but other times when he's in regular or no shoes (socks, sandals) he gets ridiculed by our friends for being short. He may not be short by statistics but around myself and our friends he looks short cause were all legit 6 footers and up.
basically like anybody, including Sly, a 5'9ish guy slouching can look shorter then his real height and I'm sure it's not hard for someone that height to look like a solid 5'10 with good posture and a bit of lift, I've seen my 5'9 roommate use tactics to look taller when were out or in pictures (thick heel with an in sole, good posture and he even spikes his hair to add that extra bit)
Brad said on 2/Jan/09
Nicholson has been 5' 8" for over 20 years. Sly owns 4" customs. Look at Jack with Dennis Hopper then Jack with Sly. Sly is 5' 8.5"...only 1/2" shorter than the listed 5' 9" height for him at this website.
dicky curtis said on 2/Jan/09
In his early films like cobra, he did not look 5.11. and to me he also diddn't look 5.10. 5.9 seemed spot on to me.
Zach said on 2/Jan/09
Really nice to see people selectively quote and thus misrepresent what Frank2 said now that he's not around, very admirable. In addition to what he did say as quoted below, repeatedly he also said Sly was 'tiny' when he took his shoes off, that he came up to his nose/eye level without footwear and that Frank could easily see over the top of Sly's head. Its senseless to analyse what height Frank saw Sly at with Sly's dubious footwear when we have his full account of Sly in no footwear. When people pushed him with the fact that anyone can make errors in their estimates taking that into account he said at the very most he was 5'8, but that he was still pretty convinced that Sly was 5'7. Regardless of whether you agree with him or not (and I personally don't) have a little respect for someone if you're going to quote them behind their back. Not addressing to anyone in particular.
For the newbies here Frank2 is/was the only poster on this board who has ever met Sly barefeet. That is unless you take into account that fraudulent 'Avenging Angelo' extra who also kept pushing for a 5'10+ Stallone until Rob found out who he really was and
Banned him.
Maybe Sly wasnt 5'7 but for 5'11 Frank to call a supposed 5'10.75 man as 'tiny' and someone he 'towered over' is pretty bewildering. Being in normal shoes relative to someone barefeet doesn't render an individual's estimating faculties as redundant either.
glenn said on 2/Jan/09
great digging that up risingforce.
Chris said on 2/Jan/09
Sly is five feet nine inches tall, but he has a great posture and wears 2 -3 inches lifts. I have not met him so of course I cant tell his real height but to me he looks 5'11 and a half with lifts.
dmeyer said on 2/Jan/09
sly looks 5 ft 10 in the pic with glenn probaly had 1 in lifts so 5 ft 9
RisingForce said on 2/Jan/09
How is Jack slouching in the golf course picture? Both have perfect posture.
Jack is 5-9 and Sly is about 5-10.5.
A problem Frank2 always made was with lifts. He thought you could see them on the outside of shoes.
Here's what he said on the Kurt Russell page
Frank2 says on 23/Aug/08
I found a company that sells the type of shoes Sly wears that boost one's height by as much as five inches. So let's say he's 5'8"(even though I believe he's 5'7"). That means wearing shoes with five inch lifts he becomes 6'1". When he was working next door to me, he wore mostly custom made cowboy boots that had two inch heels and inside, at least another two inches of lifts. With them on he was about my height, maybe a tad taller.
He also believed that Sly wore 5 inch lifts which is insane.
He also said as you can see that Sly had 2 inch heels with atleast 2 inch lifts inside. How would he know what Sly had in his shoes? He never claimed to have looked in them.
Frank2 said Sly was maybe a little taller than him when he wore the cowboy boots. Well Frank2 was 5-11 and he said that he always wore 1 inch shoes to work. That means he saw at Sly roughly 6-0.5 in cowboy boots.
EVEN if we go with the ridiculous claim that he was getting 4 inches then Sly is still 5-8.5.
Even if we say he was getting 3 inches from them then Sly would still be 5-9.5.
If he was just wearing cowboy boots with 2 inch heels(very possible) then that would make Sly 5-10.5.
A big problem is he thought you could see lifts on the outside of shoes and he always assumed that big heeled shoes meant lifts.
glenn said on 1/Jan/09
you know what gets me,is that i mentioned many times nicholson was always 5-9 in his prime,(5-8.5 only recently),has stated that as his height,and that he looked 5-10 plenty at events.especially next to me.so he is slight lift wearer.
glenn said on 1/Jan/09
adam-frank2 wouldnt lie,but did it ever occur to you he was wrong? and off on alot of 5-10 celebs?.and he was ridiculed for it.colin farrell at 5-8.5? stallone at 5-7? you know only half of it.or ignored when he was laughed at with 5-7 slys and 5-8ish colins he would bump them up an inch.there were a coupl
e others too.again,when i post about him i always stated i admired his history.
Brad said on 1/Jan/09
Another great photo Mickey, I never knew Jack was 1/4" short of 5' 11". Tell jack to straighten up and his 5' 8" gets higher with Sly on the course. Of course it isn't a reliable photo to judge Sly Rising, he's caught without his lifts and getting burned by 5"+...like in the line-up with Weathers, you catch him without the customs, he's reality as Frank2 saw in person.
Dural said on 1/Jan/09
glenn, never had a problem with you too. I appreciate your work and understand your perspective as you met Sly, but I have my own opinion and don't think he's in the 5'10" range. Some of the celebs could be taller than we think they are - sure - but they could also be shorter. I just thought those pics are interesting, that's it.
RisingForce said on 1/Jan/09
Here is another picture where Sly and Don Johnson are standing closer but Sly is taller.
Click HereThat's a bizarre picture Mickey. But once again we have Sly looking 5-10.5 with Jack in golf shoes.
Click HereJack's eye level comes just about up to the bottom of Sly's nose so that's not less than 1.5 inch difference.
The angle to the golf course picture certainly seems better IMO which isn't to say your picture is worthless. That's an interesting picture but on the golf course with equal posture, closer together with no camera advantage, Sly looks atleast 5-10.5.
Mickey said on 1/Jan/09
Click HereSly with 5'9"(he is listed at 5'8.5" here but ill give him 5'9" in leniency) Jack Nicholson. Sly with the camera advantage but Jack looks to be standing a bit straighter. If Sly was in lifts then even the 5'9" theory is in question here. If he is in normal dress shoes then he looks 5'9" here tops.
adam said on 1/Jan/09
I`d like to remind that Frank2 said that he saw Arnold as a 6`2" guy (I sure can buy that) and Stallone as a 5-8 guy at most. He met both men and saw Sly without his monster shoes. Why would he lie? Sly could be 5-8.
Parker said on 1/Jan/09
Scroll down on the left to full length pic of Jerry Hall with Don Johnson. Jerry claims 5'11. She was 5'11 at 12 so she's more likely 6 foot. Don's not far off that with footwear.
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RisingForce said on 1/Jan/09
Dural, look at the ground level with Arnold. Neither of their legs are straight either. With all of that Sly looks about 4.5 shorter but it's not a real reliable picture to judge height.
It's a nice find though, a rare picture.
We also need to see their shoes with Depp and Don Johnson. Depp and Johnson are both in the 5-9 to 5-10 range and are known lift wearers themselves so who knows who had the footwear advantage that day. With 3 lift wearers all in the similar height range then anyone can appear taller.
A picture of Sly from another night with Johnny Depp
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Click HereSly was probably in some boots or elevator shoes too but worst case I think he's the same height as Depp if he's 1 or 2 inches taller even when Depp is in boots.
Based on the pictures of Depp barefoot with Charlize Theron as well as Glenn's sightings then Depp is 5-9.5. I think Sly is likely taller but worst case I think he's the same height.
Exactly Annoyed. Sly is a minimum 2" taller than Downey. Both wear lifts, Downey might even wear bigger lifts. He nearly falls out of his shoes!
Brad said on 1/Jan/09
Great picture with Don Johnson. Johnson was 5' 9" right in front of me in sneakers 20+ years ago. Look, he's taller than Sly. He forgot his sandals.
Anonymous said on 18/Oct/06
Glenn, you know I love you, but he NEVER looks 6'1"!!!
We need to get your eyes checked. Is there a One Hour Optical nearby?
Brad said on 18/Oct/06
5' 8" plus 3" is 5' 11". I think he's 5' 11" on the left in lifts. People wouldn't say "He was short when I saw him/dated him/acted with him" etc. hundreds of times over if he were 5' 10" or more (Whatever lunatic thinks he's 5' 11" or dare I say thought higher).
Glenn said on 18/Oct/06
The fat pic is 1997.the other is 1991.people say he wears 3,4 inch lifts to surpass me,but what when he looks 6-1,6-2? stilts? please.in my shots he is either liftless or has minor lifts.when he is past 6ft,he has the 4 inchers.
Brad said on 18/Oct/06
Sly has on at least 3" added in the Glenn shots. Is there a day where he doesn't? Hulk was with him a lot. Ask Hulk.
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 18/Oct/06
Vaj, I think it was Zach that posted a pic of Sly in copland wearing the ankle high shoes. It shows Sly climbing over something like a fence or wall and his shoe is exposed revealing it goes up to his anle. I commented on it but nobody really chose to discuss it. That type of footwear gives a good shoemaker plenty of room to work some miracles for Sly.