How tall is General Height ?

Dirty Pitts says on 20/May/13
There was a study that found Christian Bale's body in American Psycho to be
the ideal height and weight as rated by women. He's 5'11.5", 178 pounds
as Patrick Bateman. Ideal Proportions for a man, with enough height and muscle,
but not too much.

Dirty Pitts says on 20/May/13
It's irrelevant what height you classify as "tall" or "short. Height Percentiles
are the only good way to classify heights. For instance 5'11" would put you at
the 70th Percentile, 6'1" at the 90th Percentile. Even in Dutchland 6'2" would
put you at the 80th Percentile. Whether you call these heights short, tall or
average is of no consequence and engages a pointless debate.

17, 182 says on 20/May/13
@MS, I live in a mainly white country, with the majority being of British and Northern European descent. I'm definitely not the tallest guy in the room by any means, but I can see over the top of many men's heads. Average here is 5'9-5'10. I can also clearly see over the top of a 5'7 persons head. This is partly the reason I visit this website. I just feel too tall to be just 182.

MS says on 20/May/13
Elijah: The truth of the matter is that the average is brought down by South Americans/Asians who all average 5'6. The average for white and black males in the U.S was, which was done more than a decade ago mind you, 5'10.5" (179 cm). Seeing as the rate of growth over generations is about 1 inch (3 cm) these days, an average of 5'11.5" among young white and black males is not exactly farfetched.

I think it is you who is deluded if you actually think 5'9 is "average". I have 2 friends who are legit 5'9ers and they are often referred to as short by peers and strangers alike.

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 19/May/13
@ Elijah - I agree with you the average is more 176-177cm if were talking every man 18-60. The reason people think the average is like 10ft is because when surrounded in most social areas then it is alot higher..not many people over 40 are in these circles.
This is why the average is more around 179cm(no lower than 178cm) if you use only 18-30 year old healthy white males.

At my 175.5cm I feel in the average range walking down a street but with young guys whether its with my footy team, at parties or at work around managers etc I feel its more like 5'10-5'11 is average. 6'/5'9 above/below average. 6'1/5'8 kinda tall/kinda short. 6'2/5'7 tall/short.

In men of all ages together Id say 5'9-5'10 average. 5'8/5'11 below/above average. 5'7/6ft kinda short/kinda tall. 5'6/6'1 short/tall.

MS says on 19/May/13
Rob, do you think a lot of weight could actually impact your measured height by a couple of cm? I ask because when I was severely overweight, I was measuring at 182-183 cm even when standing straight up. Now that I'm in good shape, I measure in the 185-186 range standing straight up with good posture.

Jon189 says on 19/May/13
As someone else wrote recently...every ADDITIONAL cm above or below certain KEY heights are amplified.

Below 5ft 8 , every cm lost is striking. A 5ft 7 man is unquestionably short. A 5ft 8 man can be below avg, but not strikingly short ...and the difference is 2.5 cm !

Above 184 , as someone mentioned, the bell curve tails off rapidly. A 191 man to me seems a lot taller than just 2 cm over me.

SAK says on 19/May/13
Elijah says: And tall "to a more limited degree" starts at 5'11"
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@ 5f11, the only 'degree' of being tall is if you are comparing yourself to females or (not fully grown)teenagers. If you are comparing to men(under 40) 5f11/180.5 is simply (upper) average. It's basically within average range of 175-181cm. I would know I am 180 (evening) 181 (throughout most of day). Granted, its a decent height.

SAK says on 19/May/13
Ted says: 1.84 is good but not great. U r solid height but dont stand out enough to be the tall guy.
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I would have to agree somewhat. @ 184cm you are not 'the tall guy', but you are still tall. @183/182 you are tallish. (applicable for England, where average is 178cm/5f10, excluding old guys who bring the average down, as know one counts them).

Elijah says on 19/May/13
I don't get why all of these guys feel like something just died inside when they see a group of guys taller than them and then declare that they are barely above average or even short.

Taller does not equal better. It's just pathetic to think this way.

Elijah says on 19/May/13
James I hate to break it to you, but you are definitely 6' and no less and not some 5'11.5", and even if you did go with lowest you would be 5'11.75" instead (but that still isn't your "true height"). Lowest is not your true height. 6' is your real height (since you are probs somewhere between 182.5 and 183cm for most of the day) and the one that should be claimed, so people guess you right 100% of the time then. Nice.

@MS, not true. In North America/wherever what he says sounds pretty spot on. I don't know if he's 182 in the evening or earlier in the day but I'm going to guess evening since that's what people on here seem to do. 182 in the evening should feel tall the majority of the time, because, well, it is. This is 6 feet tall. And tall "to a more limited degree" starts at 5'11" and tall without any modifier starts at 6' so nothing seems out of place here, he sound accurate.

thc, no that 176.5cm wasn't including "all" men, it was for non-shrunk men. Include the older men and the average will be lower. And I must emphasis that these are NOT "night heights" that most seems to obsess over on here. If you do the night height or whatever then it's no more than a flat 176cm for non-shrunk men. 5'8" is definitely a common height as well.

Suddenly 5'9" starts looking a LOT more average than you would guess by reading the deluded posts on here.

James says on 19/May/13
@Mathew I completely agree on your theory about rounding up, i've caught a few people out on it also. Although +3/4 inches is abit drastic. A solid 5ft 10 with excellent posture and the right frame can get away with saying 6ft most of the time, although once the shoes come off they are exposed. I start the day at 184 and end at 182, 181 if it's been a very long day with a heavy session in the gym. If im ever in a conversation about height people ALWAYS say im 6ft, then I state im actuay 5ft 11 1/2. Granted it's no major difference, but I get guessed at 6ft by people both shorter and taller. Pretty accurate tbf. I've never been pegged at 6ft 1, lowest ive been guessed at was 5ft 11 and that was by a 189 guy who was in shoes while I was barefoot. Anyway back to my point about 5ft 10 claiming 6ft. Out and about I may see someone who I think is 6ft from a distance only to walk past them and realise they're about 5ft 10. 178-185 guys all tend to have a similar frame. Anything below 178 you can call from a distance, anything above 185 you can call from a distance also.

Late 187cm says on 19/May/13
@ Chris

"Do you think the 5'10 average holds even in Europe? I always thought 5'11 was closer to the average in Europe."

Yes, on the whole I would say that's pretty close to the average. I would say the average lies between 176-178cm. When analysing height, a centimetre either way doesn't make much difference, but an inch does.
I think it's important to note that there can be substantial variations within Europe, because there are a lot of different body types in the whole continent. For example, in northern Europe the average might be closer to 178/179cm, while in southern Europe it might be closer to 175/176cm.
Also, height inflation must always be considered. If there's any incorrect information when heights are self-reported, it's generally going to be reported as an inflation. People tend to say they are taller then they actually are.

Ted says on 19/May/13
Yes
1.84 is good but not great
U r solid height but dont stand out enough to be the tall guy

I think there is a huge jump like a radio power band between 184 and 187 where you suddenly leave ordinary and start being the tall guy
187 stacks up well even against 1.90 and 193
184 is good but you do notice difference dropping morninv height 186 to 184 midday evening

ChiasmataX says on 18/May/13
People who are feeling short at 6'/183cm+ are actually feeling short because: 1) they inflated their own heights; 2) other people around them inflated their heights.

MS says on 18/May/13
@17, 182: You clearly must live outside of North America or somewhere with a high population of hispanics/asians. 182 (or approx 6') is about normal here, and you're not under measuring if that's how you feel next a 6'2 guy.

James says on 18/May/13
I also don't see how anyone at 6ft 1 can feel small alot of the time. Granted there will be occasions where your in the company of giants but at 182cm myself I very rarley feel short at all. All my friends are 180-185 range so we are all very similar height wise but being out and about I would say im taller than 80-85% of other people. Don't feel dwarved by anyone upto 6ft 2 either. 6ft 3 and over gets a bit towering. As for girls in heels, im taller than about 95%. Without the heels id be taller than 99%. But even the girls who are taller in their heels are only pushing about 186, where as im at 184 in footwear so I hardly feel small. I find it impossible any 6ft 1 person can feel small.

@Baz. He did think he was taller and despite the measurements still believes, no matter how many times we measure ourselves he still doesn't believe im taller, any friends who we ask also note I am slightly taller also. He probably feels hard done by as 2 years ago i was 2 inches shorter, we're both 22 now, coupled with the fact that his dad is boarderline 6ft 1 while my dad is 5ft 9 lol.

@17, 182. I would get yourself measured again! I assume you mean your eye height is just above the bottom of a 6ft 2 guy's nose. Sounds like your more 184 region to me, then again maybe the 6ft 2 guy your on about is actually only 6ft 1 if all your measurements say 182. Welcome to the 'Almost 6ft club btw'.

Mathew says on 18/May/13
Bryan says on 13/May/13
SAK I've heard worse inflations before. There was 3 guys in the 175 - 176cm range who thought they were only "6 feet tall" and when I say i'm 179.5 barefoot in late afternoon they go "No way you have to be at least 6'1!!"

I also know a guy whos 178cm that claims 6'1 and a 181cm guy who says 6'2 :o

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Yeah it's always interesting to see how far people are willing to believe. I think that if someone holds military posture and chooses generous footware, they can get away with calling 1.5" - 2" above their true height and almost nobody will question it. In fact, I think they would be able to get away with a 3" boost to a lot of people (although they will probably be called out at that point from time to time) and if we're talking about a man over 6' tall claiming his height to a short woman, I think he can even upgrade 4" and she might believe it.

truth178cm says on 18/May/13
yeah surveys are a bunch of crap. Those who surveyed around 6ft are more likely 5ft10-11 in reality.

c-mo says on 18/May/13
17, 182 says on 18/May/13
Sometimes I really doubt I'm only 182 cm. I'm taller than the vast majority of men I meet and I'm taller than pretty much all of my friends. Also 6'2 guys are barely taller than me, with my eye level coming up just above their noses. Also I get referred to as tall quite often. Am I getting under measured or is 5'11.5/182 cm a legit tall height?

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180cm is high end of average and can feel a little tall at times
182cm is a little above average and will feel tall sometimes
183-184 is tallish/weak tall and will feel tall a good amount of times
185cm+ is tall and you should feel tall most of the time

thc says on 18/May/13
for a man the average is 176.5 cm.
Walking in the street in Paris i'm taller than most , if you include all the people.
But compared to white young men, i feel more average, 5'8" and less for a white young guy is not really common

17, 182 says on 18/May/13
Sometimes I really doubt I'm only 182 cm. I'm taller than the vast majority of men I meet and I'm taller than pretty much all of my friends. Also 6'2 guys are barely taller than me, with my eye level coming up just above their noses. Also I get referred to as tall quite often. Am I getting under measured or is 5'11.5/182 cm a legit tall height?

Ud190.5cm says on 18/May/13
@John says on 14/May/13
Chameleon,
Now I am 6'6" in dress shoes (200cm) tall.

Well I think you are downgrading yourself as 200cm is actually near 6'7 and is well above 6'6 mark.I think barefoot you are actually over 6'5 and you maybe closer to 6'6,I think john you should measure yourself once again and I bet you must be 197cm barefoot in the night which is above 6'5.

Yitzhak says on 18/May/13
@Chris

For Europe as a whole, the average height for the 20-30 generation is a hair under 5'10" at 5'9.85".

Mathew says on 18/May/13
clint says on 16/May/13
There is no such thing "average" height. Only morons believe in it.

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Yes there is, it's an indisputable fact. That's a waste of a post.

Baz says on 17/May/13
@clint
What? There is without a doubt an average, both by country and overall, although not all of the listed statistics are accurate, such as ones from countries that surveyed to get that number.

@Jakopo
The obligated weekly comment of "You clearly are delusional or don't know you're true height" goes to you this time. I know I'm being harsh, but I don't see how anyone at 6'1" can feel "a bit above average." I'll give the same advice I've always given: Look at everyone and not just the guys taller than you. If you do that, I believe you'll come across around ninety guys shorter and ten guys taller than yourself .I'm sure you like to zone in and focus concentration on the taller ones because, hey, you're normally the tall one and seeing a guy above you unsettles you a bit.

@James
That's interesting, I'd probaby opt for 181 with an eye level of 183.5. It's not like a centimeter is that much either way. Does he or did he think he was taller than you until you were measured?

MS says on 17/May/13
@Jed: Unless you don't live North America/Europe, then I don't know how you can feel "too tall". Most girls I know and meet are in the 5'6-5'9 range, add in heels and they're pretty close to our height. I'm about 6'1 myself, and I live in a city where the average is definitely 5'11-6'0. 6'1 is never "tall" here, and 6'2 barely is considered "tall".

Dirty Pitts says on 17/May/13
Male height is like Goldilocks, the ideal is not too short and not too tall.
Based on a study done on the romantic preferences of women the ideal height
for men is about 1.09 times their height. Men over 6'2" were seen as
less desirable.
The study found 5'10"- 6' the ideal male height.
I would say 5'11.5" is the ideal height

truth178cm says on 17/May/13
at 6ft1 (185cm) at low how can you feel short? The minimum height of not feeling short is 177-179cm, but to feel short regularly you have to be 173cm o less and to feel tall 183cm or more.

CounterClint says on 17/May/13
> clint says on 16/May/13
> There is no such thing "average" height. Only morons believe in it.

...You're joking, right? You realize this is a mathematical impossibility, right?

As soon as you have a single number in a set, you also have an average of the set. And since any given person has a height by virtue of being a 3-dimensional being, and there exists at least one person in the set of all people...it therefore follows that there does indeed exist an average height.

Jakopo says on 16/May/13
Im 6ft 1 a bit above average but still feel short as **** sometimes

6ft 4 = ideal height imo

MS says on 16/May/13
klem says on 14/May/13
Thanks, that's what I thought, but I've seen a few guys on here that Rob has listed at 185 cm who can see across the top of his ahead directly. Must be because they have smaller heads, I presume.

Alex says on 16/May/13
@El Mariachi: Not at all.

clint says on 16/May/13
There is no such thing "average" height. Only morons believe in it.

Mastro says on 15/May/13
"6'2>6'1>6'0 or 6'3>6'4>5'11>6'5>5'10>6'6>6'7+>5'9 and under
Id take 6'4 over 5'11. Better to be actually tall than barely above average I think. 6'5 + becomes more unpracticle but better than pure average 5'10. Anything 5'9 and under wear your actually below average is worse than over 6'6 to me. 6'0 and 6'3 are two heights I rate equally and 6'2 best height"

I'm 6'2" and I like it- I'm tall- but any taller and you have trouble finding clothes- big and tall stores/etc. I can also just fly coach- but I'd be completely miserable if I had longer legs.

El Mariachi says on 15/May/13
Is 6'5" gigantic?

Jed says on 15/May/13
I wouldn't want to be over 6'3. Just don't see the point. At 6'1 I already feel too tall next to the vast majority of girls. Unless you're a guy who's hung up on his ego being really tall isn't a great thing.

thc says on 15/May/13
@klem

what is the average height in slovenia and some other easter countries you know?

James says on 15/May/13
A common thing i've noticed on here is alot of people judging heights off eye level, eye level is usually quite accurate but must he pointed out that not everyone's head is the same size. I have a friend who's eye level is about 1.5cm higher than mine but when we are measured im always a cm taller at 182cm to his 181cm and this can be seen in photo's of us that I am actually taller. He just happens to have a slightly smaller than average head which is in proportion to his thinner frame whereas I have really broad shoulders. Not sure which I would prefer though, eye height of a 183.5cm guy but only being 181 or as I stand now at 182. Just a thought I had would be interesting to know views on this, higher eye level or slightly taller with normal eye level. Neither of us look deformed btw it's just head size in relation to our frames.

Elijah says on 15/May/13
klem you misunderstand me, I meant that 5'9.5" is the average height and 5'11" therefore has a 1.5" "advantage" over the average height (5'9.5")

SAK says on 15/May/13
We all know the famous CEO height survey. Where average height is 6ft. And where apparently 30% are 6f2 or more; in comparison only 3.9% of US population is of this height.

These are surveys and people in question havent been measured, they we're asked there height. And we all know how accurately everyone says there own height.

Granted, CEO's in general are on average taller then general public. Just not by that much. Average is probably more like 5f10.5/5f11 rather then 6f. And 30% are probably taller then 6f1, rather then 6f2.

Sharpshooter says on 15/May/13
@6ft1guy - what somebody inbetween 5'7-5'8?

I'm 5'7.5 - 5'7.75 (closer to 5'8) and I don't know whether thats the cusp of short or not! I suspect it probably is, but I don't notice I'm desperately short, more just shorter than average.

Chris says on 14/May/13
@Late 187cm

Do you think the 5'10 average holds even in Europe? I always thought 5'11 was closer to the average in Europe.

klem says on 14/May/13
MS says on 14/May/13
If a legit 185 cm guy can't see over the head of a legit 5'8, does that mean he has an extremely huge forehead (lower eye-level)? Where should the average 185 cm man's eye level be?

Isn't average eye-level around 12 cm under top? So 185 cm has on average 173 cm eye-level, which is exactly 5-8. I don't think it is actually enough to see over because you you would be looking right into top of his head into hair, you have to be a bit taller. 6-2 person could look over 5-8 person.

John says on 14/May/13
Chameleon,
Now I am 6'6" in dress shoes (200cm) tall.

klem says on 14/May/13
I remember my friends who played basketball in high school/uni were all listed 4-5 cm over their barefoot height on team's webpage. They were measured in shoes+ added 2 cm for morning height. 186 cm guy was listed 190 cm and 183.5 cm guy was listed 188 cm.

klem says on 14/May/13
Elijah says on 13/May/13
With an average height of 5'9.5"/176.5cm you still have a decent advantage over the average man at 5'11".


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? What kind of advantage does 5-9.5 have over 5-11? And I am not even talking about girls proffering 180 cm + in europe.
Furniture, cars, clothes fit perfectly for 5-11, health-related issues are the same for all heights under 6-2+. It is average among university students. You can have children with short women and still likely to have above average kids.

SAK says on 14/May/13
@Bryan, just yesterday, a good female friend of mine introduced me to a guy she met on match.com. She told me his profile says 5f9. In reality he was 5f7. My female friend is also 5f7. She didn't call him on his height increasing, as she doesn't really care too much about it.

In online dating, many females follow the 2" rule; minus 2" from a persons profile height.

Adding 1-2" to ones own height is standard. Some people try and add 3-4" , like you mentioned. The taller a person is, the more they can add without being called out. But taller people tend not to add too much, as they are already tall.

Adding 3-4", people may question it, maybe not out loud, but in their heads.

A UK reality TV celeb 'Mark Wright' is 5f10 and claimed 6f2. Quite a stretch.

Jason says on 14/May/13
solidsnake you're delusional m8 if you think being 6'7+ is better than 5'9. Way more problems at the extreme height range than there are at the "slightly below average" level.

Peyman - 6ft says on 14/May/13
if the male average height is 5ft 9.5in then
(5ft 9.5in-5ft 11in) = above average / (5ft 8in-5ft 9.5in) = below average
(5ft 11in-6ft 0.5in) = tallish / (5ft 6.5in-5ft8in) = shortish
(6ft 0.5in-6ft 2in) = definitely tall, but no tallness problem /(5ft5in - 5ft6.5in) definitely short, START of shortness problems
(6ft 2in-6ft3.5in) = almost very tall, still nice for the young generation.
this is not complicated dudes.

Yitzhak says on 14/May/13
I just realised that height exaggeration skews a lot more than just what people thin is average height - it skews ideal heights and a lot of studies that claim taller = better.

Tae for instance the commonly quoted study about CEO's and height - that in 2005 a study "revealed" that the average Fortune 500 CEO is a shade under 6'0" tall. The average American male who has not yet lost height is about 5'10". But wait! It is rarely even bothered to be mentioned that these CEO height stats were taken by SURVEY. Given that the average male adds 1-2" on average to their height (and I'd guess rich and powerful men are even more eager if anything to be seen as powerful and intimidating and add just as much if not more) the real height of fortune 500 ceo's is probably more like 5'10.5, give or take half an inch - barely taller than average. Sure height seems to matter, but not nearly as much as people think.

MS says on 14/May/13
If a legit 185 cm guy can't see over the head of a legit 5'8, does that mean he has an extremely huge forehead (lower eye-level)? Where should the average 185 cm man's eye level be?

Late 187cm says on 13/May/13
@Matty864, @5ft10guy

I always thought 5'10 was a general average in most western countries. Ethnicity may be a factor, but caucasians generally make up the vast majority of western populations.

klem says on 13/May/13
@ajcf1995

Yes for 5-11 66-67% seems about right. Used to be around 75%, but nowadays it is around 67% around people under 40.

marla singer says on 13/May/13
Rob how much do these heels give in your opinion? Click Here when I bought them the label said "13 cm heels" and I know they usually give less, but is it possible they give as much as 13 real cms? I was eye to eye with most guys and I really did appear no less than 5 ft 10 in all photos I've taken (I compared myself mostly to males because the girls had heels, all with different platforms, etc.). One of them, 5 ft 7.5 barefoot, in converse shoes, seemed shocked when I arrived and he said to me I was too much taller than him.. but when I measured myself barefoot and with heels on, I noticed only a 11 cm difference. If it could help, I've measured the platform, at its thickest it is almost 4 cm high (3.8 cm). The size is UK 4.5. Thanks once again :)

maxwell says on 13/May/13
Im 184.5 cm how much is that in inches

6ft1guy says on 13/May/13
6ft4 is start very tall. 6ft2 is perfect/ideal. 6ft+ is good. 5ft8-5ft11 is average. 5ft7 is start short.
5ft6 is definitely short.

Bryan says on 13/May/13
SAK I've heard worse inflations before. There was 3 guys in the 175 - 176cm range who thought they were only "6 feet tall" and when I say i'm 179.5 barefoot in late afternoon they go "No way you have to be at least 6'1!!"

I also know a guy whos 178cm that claims 6'1 and a 181cm guy who says 6'2 :o

SolidSnake says on 13/May/13
@Elijah imo
6'2>6'1>6'0 or 6'3>6'4>5'11>6'5>5'10>6'6>6'7+>5'9 and under
Id take 6'4 over 5'11. Better to be actually tall than barely above average I think. 6'5 + becomes more unpracticle but better than pure average 5'10. Anything 5'9 and under wear your actually below average is worse than over 6'6 to me. 6'0 and 6'3 are two heights I rate equally and 6'2 best height

Chris says on 13/May/13
@ajcf1995

Where in the US is this place you work at? Were the men predominantly white? If not, what was the ethnic breakdown?

I think this is a cool little thing to try across the country and see if we find regional variations. I might give this a shot!

Elijah says on 13/May/13
With an average height of 5'9.5"/176.5cm you still have a decent advantage over the average man at 5'11".

And anyone who says that 5'9" is short is ridiculous, it's average height along with 5'10". 5'9" and 5'10" are both the most common heights you will find.

Dmeyer says on 12/May/13
I am in the 181-182cm zone and the tallest i Will want to be is 185-187cm i think anything over 188-189cm is not ideal , of course 190cm is better than 168-70cm best range 5'10-6'2 5'8.5-9.75 is very ok or 6'2.5-6'4 is Nice , exempt if you play basket ball or date à 5'11 women wearing big heels 6'1 is enaugh 185-186cm is great

SAK says on 12/May/13
Elijah says: anything outside that range (5'11"-6'2") in both directions is definitely worse... to say that 6'4" is just as "ideal" as 6' is definitely false. 6'3" is bordering on too tall.
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You cannot say, 'why would anyone say 6f4 is ideal/perfect over 6f etc..' Everyone is different and so like different things. Some people like really big and muscular bodytypes, some like athletic and lean. If people dont agree with 5f11-6f2 being the best range, you seem to find that hard to accept.

If you ask guys who are between 6f3-6f5, if they want to be a few inches shorter a lot of them will say no. So this really challenges the idea that 6f-6f2 has to be perfect, because if that was the case, then very tall men would always want to be shorter, and many dont.

Granted 6f-6f2 heights are great and aesthethic. Personally I choose 6f1/6f2 as ideal. But i can totally understand if others think 5f10, 6f3 or 6f5 is ideal as well.

Matty864 says on 12/May/13
@Late 187cm

It really depends on your ethnicity and race. If you are asian or latino, then 6'0 is definitely tall. Average height for a white or black male is 5'11 so 6'0 isnt very tall nor is it short by any means, it is in the average range. In my opinon someone starts to look very tall at 6'3 or above.

5ft10guy says on 12/May/13
6ft1 is tall while 6ft is above average 5ft11 is average.

SAK says on 12/May/13
Late 187cm says: Anyone have any experiences with people basing 6'0 as a base height or average height?
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Most people add 1-2" inches of height to there actual height. Resulting, in men that are 5f10/5f10.5 men being called 6f. So when 6f is said to be average, they really mean 5f10/5f10.5.

klem says on 12/May/13
@c-mo

Yes to be honest, my 5-9 friend doesn't even look shorter than my legit 5-11 friend (measured 180 cm numerous times). You can only see difference if they stand close together. So yeah, some 5-9 are lucky :) Also he is lucky with ladies(few long-term relationships and lot's of one night stands), but he is very outgoing and a nice guy with white a bad boy image (tattoo, beard... stuff like that). So 5-9 is definitely not a draw-back height. And this is in Slovenia where young people are quite tall (close to 179 cm end of high school average).

ajcf1995 says on 11/May/13
Today, I wanted to see how well I fared against other men over 18. So, I thought "what other better place than where I work (Meijer). So I tallied down 100 people within a random span of 20 minutes. I ended up being taller than about 66-67% of the people I wrote down. This shocked me because before I did this experiment I realized I wasn't being grateful for the men I am taller than. I realize now that people spend way too much time focusing and pointing out people taller without looking around themselves and seeing how many more people are shorter. I still want to hit 6 ft, but to be honest, it wouldn't kill me if I didn't.

Elijah says on 11/May/13
Snake, I disagree. I really couldn't understand someone who said that under 5'11" or over 6'2" is ideal. So 6' (and even 5'11") definitely and easily beats 6'4" and even 6'3" in my opinion, no doubt about it. Within the range 5'11"-6'2" I could understand anyone's point of view if their opinion is one height within that range is better (e.g. 5'11" vs 6'2"), but anything outside that range in both directions is definitely worse... to say that 6'4" is just as "ideal" as 6' is definitely false.

Therefore, I'd take easily 5'11" over 6'3" despite it being "too average", it just works and looks better the vast majority of the time. 6'3" is bordering on too tall and rather few can pull it off and make it look good while 5'11" normally looks very good and proportionate, it's a pretty ideal and aesthetic/attractive height. Can't really go wrong with it.

Late 187cm says on 11/May/13
Anyone have any experiences with people basing 6'0 as a base height or average height?
Lots of people seem to be of the opinion that 6'0 is average and every inch over this makes you progressively taller than average. For example, 6'1 would be slightly above average.

Late 187cm says on 11/May/13
klem says on 9/May/13
I would take strong 6-1(6-2 out of bed) as a perfect height. That way I think you could claim both without really lying and get the best of both words(for example, you could say 6-2 to girls because it sounds great/has a good reputation among women and also on other occasion claim 6-1, which is perfect for a male model).
As strong 6-1 I mean 186 cm after 10 hours being up.

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That's pretty much my height, and I'm happy with it. Sometimes I think if I was an inch or so taller it would give me more of a dominance factor. But this has its downsides too. Guys over 190cm, or so, can often be seen as a big guy; and big guys can attract unwanted attention. They can be seen as something of a target, and a trophy for others to take on. A friend of mine is about 191cm and of stocky build. He has attracted unwanted attention on several occasions, and is not the type of guy who looks for trouble. If your 186-188cm and of normal build, your seen as tall, but, in my experience, not as a threat or trophy target for some.

klem says on 11/May/13
5-9 is average range and has potential to look appealing and long-ish but on many people it will look short:
- if you have bad posture
- if you are overweight
- if you are very muscular but with average body fat, you also look shorter. You have to get fat levels down in order to carry extra muscle.
- if you wear clothes that are too big size for you (most people do but don't know)
-if most of your height is due to long torso and big head (that's unfortunate)

Most of 5-9 people who don't look short are slim/athletic for example: long/middle distance runners,cyclists, dancers... which mean LOW body fat with a bit of muscle.

Arch Stanton says on 11/May/13
Sacha Baron Cohen is a genuine 6'3"er and in his comments to 6'5" Howard Stern he was speaking as if he considers himself to be a freaky height. He considers himself a very tall man. Do you honestly think it ever crosses Sacha's mind "I'm not tall enough". I'd bet he often thinks the opposite and thinks "eeks I feel a bit gangly next to this 5'8 guy".

Ud190.5cm says on 11/May/13
@Verda & Arch Stanton
Its just my opinion and btw Its not that I feel short at 6'3 definitely I tower over many people,I am close to 6'4(192.5) in the morning out of the bed,but I mean 192 range is neither short nor very tall so IMO its just perfect height.I know that i'm not 192cm but I want my height to be 192cm in the night.Nowadays I see many youngsters at 183cm and above,and In my college there are few people taller than me.So its just my opinion.I'm 18 and I want to be taller.

c-mo says on 11/May/13
lol93 says on 9/May/13
5'10 is ideal anything over 6'1 is too tall anything under 5'8 starts to look short

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5'10 ideal ? lol why ?

c-mo says on 11/May/13
@klem

thanks for your input

i think i got quite lucky for a 5'9er since majority of people guess my height as 178-180 :) even my best friend who is 6'2 said "you are likely 180cm and no way under 178cm ...you should measure again" after I told him i am 175cm

but 180cm+ would have been nice you know .....184cm is my dream height....but unfortunately we cant choose our height :)

another friend of mine is about 160cm and although he is strong and quite attractive his height is a major problem

Anon says on 10/May/13
I'm from England, and I've just come back from holiday in Holland. Before I mentioned on this site that I never saw a young Dutch guy below 5'10, however on this trip I saw quite a few 5'8/5'9 guys in addition to a couple 5'5/5'6 and this was in the north part of Holland and they were certainly white ethnic Dutchies surprisingly enough (The north has a legit 184/185cm night time average for the under 30's). I am 184/185 and most of the young Dutch were my height or taller, but to be honest it really didn't bother me because from a rational point of view the country is definitely too tall. I completely agree that it would be fun being 6'3/6'4 up to 6'7 maybe, but I'm sure I would get sick of the lack of legroom everywhere in the world or of towering girls to the point that it looks stupid walking side by side. Now of course you could be say 6'4 and get with a women 5'9-6'0 or indeed taller or shorter, but if you decide to have kids together they would either be taller than you or of average height (which occasionally happens when two tall people reproduce) ...In other words you can less easily predict the height of your offspring. I have always maintained that 6'0-6'2.5 is the ideal range (of course this is just my personal opinion). It really makes no difference whether you are 6'0/6'1/6'2. if you are in this range you should consider yourself very lucky.

klem says on 10/May/13
@lol93: 5-10 is not ideal it is average which is ok and good height in real world if you have other good characteristics.

Finnian says on 10/May/13
@lol93 agreed.
Over 6'1" is too tall.
Under 5'8" starts to be a disadvantage.
5'10"-5'11" is perfect(ideal)
5'9" and 6'0" are great
5'8", 6'1" are decent
5'7", 6'2" are OK

Verda says on 10/May/13
Ud190.5cm says on 7/May/13
IMO 192cm is the perfect height for a male.

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very ridicilous comment, sorry. Why 192cm? If a man is 190cm, what would you say about him? I am 186cm.

Arch Stanton says on 10/May/13
Its really funny guys on here saying they're 190 cm and "192 cm" is the perfect height as if a legit 190 is not tall enough. I mean, go out into the real world, look at the genuine 6 ft 3 guys around you and you think they worry about not being any taller? They look very tall to most people, some almost too tall if they're thin build. A genuine solid 6 ft 3 guy is damn tall. I went to the hospital earlier, big capital city hospital which is like an airport inside and I only walked past or saw 2 guys who looked noticeably taller than me, one around 6'5", the other about 6'3" and a couple around my height, most guys I saw were a lot shorter. And I'm 6'1" range, hardly 6 ft 3 +. C'mon if you genuinely measure 190cm barefoot you'd feel more than tall enough in public as in shoes or good boots you'd be 6 ft 4 and could probably pull off looking near 6 ft 5 if you've got a good build and posture.

klem says on 9/May/13
I would take strong 6-1(6-2 out of bed) as a perfect height. That way I think you could claim both without really lying and get the best of both words(for example, you could say 6-2 to girls because it sounds great/has a good reputation among women and also on other occasion claim 6-1, which is perfect for a male model).
As strong 6-1 I mean 186 cm after 10 hours being up.

@c-mo I don't think 173-175 is bad. Bad is under 170. It blends in with the average range/crowd which I think is around 173-180 cm not with the short, under 170 cm IMO. My friend is 174-175 cm and you don't think twice about his height when you see him. Others, who are 170 cm or under, give short impression on first sight. I think this range is quite tricky because many around 175 cm give a taller impression. But so can many look shorter if in bad shape.

@Baz, SAK:
I am also your range, 183+ morning to 181.5 cm minimum and I think just like you guys said, above average with young people and tallish overall. You notice for yourself you are a bit taller than average man but not really look tall unless in a few situations.
Good height, but a few extra cms could edge you out of the average/above average group.

MaskDeMasque says on 9/May/13
@SAMMY DERRICK

You aren't short, its prob just that your female cousin is very tall that people thought you were short.

tommy says on 9/May/13
Xevan says on 7/May/13
@Sammy derrick

I don't want to be mean... :p

but u are short(NOT REALLY SHORT SHORT BUT JUST short), accept it and deal with it is the only thing u can do. And dont rely to much on your ''growthspurth'' and even if you wil have it dont expect to grow suddenly 4-5 inches.


since when his height is considered short? he is average

mamoo says on 9/May/13
I'm 187cm male.
I wish i was taller.
190-193cm is perfect male height imo. (175-178cm is perfect female height)
sorry. my english is poor.

lol93 says on 9/May/13
5'10 is ideal anything over 6'1 is too tall anything under 5'8 starts to look short

Howl says on 9/May/13
In my opinion, there's no such thing as an 'ideal height' - everything depends on your own self-awareness. I am nearly 21, have grown to 5ft 10in (maybe a 1/4 above) and was 3 years ago at 5'8 and never felt short. This changed through the internet, where people apparently tend to be very superficial. The funny thing is that women I talked to in real life never commented my former height as negative, but considered it as normal and could have imagined to date so. with this height (ps: none of them preferred only tall men over 6'1). So my conclusion: If you're self-confident and behaving 'manly' (women still are looking for so. who's able to feed a family, at least unconsciously), there shouldn't be any problems with the right woman.
By the way, one can see it the other way round: You won't attract women who might only like you because of your height ...

ajcf1995 says on 8/May/13
14: 5'3
15: 5'4 and grew to 5'9 when I turned 16, When I turned 17: 5'10.5, Now I'm almost 18, will be 18 in August, and now 5'11.

SAK says on 8/May/13
@Baz, here in England 181 is a good height. Aesthetically is looks good. For many sports the height is good enough.

Its hard to say exactly, but I think its taller then around 70%. In a group of 6 friends I am usually the 2nd or 3rd tallest.

When in a surrounding with a variety of ages, basically the general public, 181 is tallish. When in a setting with younger generation (35under), I would say its upper average.

kaplaaa says on 8/May/13
I thought 6"1-6"2 was normal tall until a person considered very tall was measured at about 186cm.
A solid 182cm is probably the western start of tall, and very tall being 187cm and over.

Dmeyer says on 8/May/13
Sak i do not agree 177cm is better than 194cm ,

Ud190.5cm says on 7/May/13
IMO 192cm is the perfect height for a male.

Xevan says on 7/May/13
@Sammy derrick

I don't want to be mean... :p

but u are short(NOT REALLY SHORT SHORT BUT JUST short), accept it and deal with it is the only thing u can do. And dont rely to much on your ''growthspurth'' and even if you wil have it dont expect to grow suddenly 4-5 inches.

c-mo says on 7/May/13
Bryan says on 6/May/13
IMO ideal range for males are from 178cm - 192cm with 185cm being the all around best height for a guy (all low btw)

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i would agree

what do you think about 173-175cm ?? bad ??

Shine says on 6/May/13
Imo
5'7 and under short
5'8-5'9 little short
5'10 standard
5'11-6'0 little tall
6'1-6'4 tall, ideal
6'5 very tall
6'6+ giant

Baz says on 6/May/13
@Sak
Also, what do you think of 181? Personally, I feel as if I am in the tallish range (179-184) where I definitely don't look like a "tall guy" nor do I get comments but I notice that I am taller than the majority of guys. I feel like I'm taller than 3/4 of guys, or in the 75% percentile. I'm usually not the tallest in a group of 4 guys, but I can be. And I'm never the shortest in a group of 4. 90% of the time there is one guy taller than me and two shorter in a group of 4. Overall, I can't complain. It's a comfortable spot. But it isn't, however, my "ideal" height. That, I believe, would be 185, but I can't say for certain.

Baz says on 6/May/13
@Sak
I'm starting to think the same, but I still sort of feel like 185 would cut it and be "perfect". Well, since this is very subjective, there cannot be a "one-size fits-all" best height. Also, from our spot at 181, it may seem like 185 is too little of a gain to feel much different and that 187 is a safer bet. But how does 185, 187 or any height other than ours, lower or higher, feel on a daily basis? I feel like I'd have to "cheat" a bit and wear various sized lifts to get a taste of each height above mine within the next 7cm (I don't think I'd be able to experiment with 189+ with just lifts) and judge for myself how those heights are from my perception. I don't know how I would see what shorter heights feel like except for 179ish while wearing barefoot shoes or something. I guess I could try to remember what each one felt like growing up but I didn't care for height too much back then.

SAMMY DERRICK says on 6/May/13
During the weekend I went with the family for a funeral.And at 5'9 I was described as SHORT!Because I HAVEN'T MEET MY GROWTH SPRUT!and because I have a 6'1 female cousin who is 18 and I'm 17

SAK says on 6/May/13
klem says: IMO 6-3 beats flat 5-11. But 6-0 ties with 6-3. 6-1 and 6-2 is best. And I think everything in 178-194 range is nice height for a male, which beats everything under and over.
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Pretty much spot on. Agree with everything u said. You say '6f1 & 6f2 is best', 6f1.5/187cm being midpoint is overall best then.

SolidSnake says on 6/May/13
@Elijah, I would say ideal is 6'1-6'3 or 6'-6'4. 5'11'' is too average in my view

c-mo says on 6/May/13
Elijah says on 4/May/13
I don't get this "xx and xx are both ideal heights" thing. Surely by definition, only one height can be ideal. Not two.

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184cm is the ideal height :D

Bryan says on 6/May/13
IMO ideal range for males are from 178cm - 192cm with 185cm being the all around best height for a guy (all low btw)

marla singer says on 5/May/13
Rob, according to this photo Click Here could you tell how tall is the girl next to this kid who is 97 cm tall barefoot? they're both in low shoes, 1inch or so, but you see the girl is closer to the camera... thanks :)

Andy 185cm says on 5/May/13
@Chris they are nordic looking and i live in Norway, My father is norwegian and my mother is philipino. Im lucky to be where i am cuz my mother is so short only 5.2'5 yet im over a head taller than her.

Jon189 says on 5/May/13
I truly believe my height to be near perfect. I am comfortably taller than most, whilst still being 'topped' by a reasonable number of people. My height simply says 'tallish guy'...its not remarkable, it is aesthetically pleasing (buildwise for clothes). I be open and say without shame ;)...that clothes generally look good on me regardless of what they actually are.
I was in central london recently and would only say I was 80th percentile as opposed to the 95th I am used too. The City of London has a lot of very , very wealthy people / high earners ..so this is to be expected.
Those who say 5'11 or 6'0 is perfect ?...perhaps...but the standing out at 6'2' can never really be said to be a bad thing. Perhaps if I am honest 6'3 or 6'4 would be nice but clothes wise I can fit in Regular or long Pants/trousers and the vast majority of suits.

SAK says on 5/May/13
Elijah says: I don't get this "xx and xx are both ideal heights" thing. Surely by definition, only one height can be ideal. Not two.
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I cannot choose between 6f1 and 6f2. A compromise at 6f1.5/187 I guess then.

Ud190.5cm says on 5/May/13
14: 182
15: 184
16: 186
17: 189
18: 190.5-192.5 and still growing....

Late 187cm says on 4/May/13
17, 182 says on 3/May/13
Hey, just a question for you 6'+ guys out there. Do you seem to attract more taller women as opposed to shorter women? Reason I ask this is because when I was around 5'9 a year or so ago I seemed to attract a LOT more shorter/average height women compared to now. It feels like the only girls really interested in me are on the tall side now? I'm 182 cm which is basically 6' if you will. I'd love to see your guys answers. Thanks...

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Purely in terms of physical attraction, more times than not, an average looking guy at 5'10 will lose out to an average looking guy at 6'2.
You don't have to agree, that's my opinion.

Elijah says on 4/May/13
And about he growth thing... any growth from 17 tends to be minimal, and many are done at that age. 3-4cm would be a lot greater than the norm.

Elijah says on 4/May/13
To clarify that "ideal range" thing, I mean that I could understand someone saying any height from 5'11" to 6'2" is ideal and would say "fair enough, yeah it's a great height". But it would have to be only one height though.

Elijah says on 4/May/13
You can't have two ideal heights but you can have an ideal range. IMO this starts at 5'11" and ends at 6'2". Not sure if I would say that any one height is ideal though.

Really I think people only say 6'-6'2" as the ideal range because of the even numbers, but really I would say 5'11" belongs in there as well.

Elijah says on 4/May/13
14:183cm
15:183cm
16:183cm
17:183cm
18:183cm
19:183cm
20:183cm

SolidSnake you were always on the short side up until 17... maybe you still remember all the times that you were short and therefore still see yourself as short even though you are now tall.

Elijah says on 4/May/13
I don't get this "xx and xx are both ideal heights" thing. Surely by definition, only one height can be ideal. Not two.

Warf says on 4/May/13
The general height for a human male is 175cm

Alex says on 4/May/13
@ I guess it all comes down to prespective. It is normal to prefer your height over others. It's an extremely subjective thing so I don't think one can say the "X height is 100% better than Y height" because you'll always find someone else with a different opinion, you know? Btw, what's your height?

chris says on 4/May/13
Andy , where do you live? I feel like these people are European looking

c-mo says on 3/May/13
bllioh says on 2/May/13
C-mo what is your height chart from 14 to 18

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i dont know at all but i would guess

14: 165
15: 168
16: 172
17: 174
18: 174

now 27: about 175cm

all night heights ....i am 177cm out of bed


i am not sure at all but when i see old classmates i feel taller and also broader beside of them than when i was younger.....most of my old classmates look like this o_O when they see me now because i was weak and shy back then lol :D

MaskDeMasque says on 3/May/13
@Andy185cm

lol at all this "proof" you are posting.

Mathew says on 3/May/13
Andy 185cm says on 2/May/13
Click Here

last proof to be added

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Proof of what? That you are 6'1"? I don't think you're a bad person, as you were worried about in your last post. But I don't see how that picture (or any of your pictures) proves definitively you're 6'1". Have someone measure you, that's the only way to know for sure how tall you are, you can do it first thing in the morning if you want your FULL height. Then you will know for sure if you're really 6'1".

klem says on 3/May/13
My growth, those are afternoon heights:
14 5-8
15 5-9
16 5-10
17 5-11
18 5-11.25
19+ 5-11.5

klem says on 3/May/13
IMO 6-3 beats flat 5-11. But 6-0 ties with 6-3. 6-1 and 6-2 is best. And I think everything in 178-194 range is nice height for a male, which beats everything under and over.

SAK says on 3/May/13
Being 6f4 and over, its going to be a hit and miss thing whether u like being that tall. Ultimately it's whether you want to stand out or not.

There are quite a few confessional videos on YouTube about being very tall.

Some guys love it and embrace the attention. Other not so much, and wish they were shorter (usually quoting 6f2 as where do would wanted to stop).

There is a particular video of a guy whos 6f8, lives in England. He tells of the abuse he gets on regular basis.
Click Here

17, 182 says on 3/May/13
Hey, just a question for you 6'+ guys out there. Do you seem to attract more taller women as opposed to shorter women? Reason I ask this is because when I was around 5'9 a year or so ago I seemed to attract a LOT more shorter/average height women compared to now. It feels like the only girls really interested in me are on the tall side now? I'm 182 cm which is basically 6' if you will. I'd love to see your guys answers. Thanks...

Andy 185cm says on 2/May/13
Click Here

last proof to be added

Finnian says on 2/May/13
@c-mo, @Alex I don't buy into the whole "tall > average" thing.
average > tall and average > short to me. I don't see a reason to be tall. I hate sports.

bllioh says on 2/May/13
C-mo what is your height chart from 14 to 18

SAK says on 2/May/13
c-mo says: 511 beats 6'2 imo but 6'2 beat 5'10 and under easily
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Everyone will think differently. Imo 6f2 & 6f1 beats everything. Both are ideal heights for models and many sports.

SolidSnake says on 2/May/13
14- 153cm
15- 158cm
16- 168cm
17- 175cm
18- 180.5cm
Almost 20- 184cm

willriker says on 1/May/13
14: 5'7"
15: 5'9"
16: 5'10"
17: 5'11"
18: 6'1"

kaplaaa says on 1/May/13
Finnian, can't tell if you are trolling or not, these 'situations' are trivial unless you are way and above what is considered normal, over 6ft4.

Alex says on 1/May/13
@Finnian. I respectfuly disagree, i'm 191cm and not into sports at all. I've never faced any short of problem regarding my height, except maybe finding the right clothes. I'd never change my height for 6'2'', let alone 6'0''. That's just me though.

how soon is now says on 1/May/13
I wouldn't want to be taller than 6 feet. A lot of women apparently want a guy at this height, but most women are considerably shorter than 6 feet and can't tell the difference between someone who is 6 feet and someone who is within a few inches (like -/+ 3 inches) of it.

Matty864 says on 1/May/13
I am 6'5.25" barefoot and let me say that height, like most things in life is what you make it. Yes, I am usually the tallest person wherever I go but I also am well built and in proportion so people do not comment on it all the time. You can let your height consume you or just let it be one of many attributes you possess.

Personally I would like to be 6'1" barefoot but that is out of my hands. I deal with it and turn it into a positive. I lift weights, work out and am lucky that I am an attractive guy on the whole. So while a guy who is 6'6" is tall for sure, it doesnt have to be "too tall" if you work with what you got and dont look like a goof

c-mo says on 1/May/13
@Finnian

5'9-5'11 does not beat 6'0-6'1
5'11 beats 6'2 imo but 6'2 beat 5'10 and under easily

why do you think that way ?

Josh179 says on 1/May/13
I find it hard to believe that 5'10 is average height in the UK, I'm at A UK university and stand at 178.5 cm at my lowest and I am taller than around 60-65 % of the guys I meet every day

billon says on 30/Apr/13
height chart from 14 to 18 please ppl

Gibson says on 30/Apr/13
In Serbia, men are generally between 180cm-190cm(5'11-6'2.75). Therefore, people think that in Dinaric Alps every man is at least 185cm and over. This view is wrong. The lower level for height(men) in Serbia is high so that people suggest that in Serbia every man is too tall. You can not see so many men who are under 180cm in Serbia. For example, if you are 191cm in Serbia you will be seen as tall. Every 28 men out of 100 men is 190cm and over in Serbia. This directs us to 28%. You can not count these 28 people as normal height. These 28 men, who are 190cm and over are all tall men even in Serbia. In Serbia 190cm and over classify themselves as tall persons, be sure! In Netherlands, every 22 men out of 100 men are 190cm and over. In France, every 2 men out of 100 are 190cm and over. There is a general point of view that a 190cm man can not be seen as tall in Serbia but that is absolutely wrong dudes. 190cm and over is tall may be start of very tall everywhere around the world also in the universe.

truth178cm says on 30/Apr/13
Yes Finnian good point

Finnian says on 30/Apr/13
I think the 6'3"-6'5" range is somewhat bad and not really an advantage over 6'0"-6'2" unless you play sports.

5'9"-5'11" beats 6'0"+ (especially 6'3"+) in some situations:
Air, bus, or train travel
Fitting in small cars
Laying on beds, couches
Showers and baths
Less likely to need an uncommon shoe size
Some shorter women don't want to feel like a kid.
Live longer
Stick out less

6'3"+ beats 6'2" and under only in the following:
Basketball, Volleyball, certain positions in other sports
If you want to be taller than everyone
Attracting tall girls like 6'0"

I don't care about any of those things so to me, Average height(5'9-5'11) beats tall(6'0-6'2) which beats very tall(6'3+)

truth177cm says on 30/Apr/13
6ft3 is not too tall though it is very tall. And yeah problems start at over 6ft6.
Still no matter what height most males prefer the 6ft-6ft2 range.

SAK says on 30/Apr/13
@Mathew thanks. I also agree your posts about heights 6f3-6f5. I personally think the postives hugely outweigh any negatives. In spite of any problems people in this range may have, they still view there height has a good thing.

MD says on 30/Apr/13
@John,

Do you have any pictures with your family you'd like to post to show the height difference? You talk about them, a lot, and it'd be nice to see the difference. You would blank out their faces, of course, but you could still post to give us an idea.

Mathew says on 29/Apr/13
c-188cm says on 28/Apr/13
i am 188cm at night so i am a solid 6'2, what weight would you guys reckon i need to be to look 'filled in'? so to stop being lanky/skinny? i would say i have an average frame.

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What weight? At 6'2" I'd say anywhere in the 180 - 195 range would be where you'd look in shape but not stick out as particularly skinny.

Chameleon says on 29/Apr/13
@John: So what exactly is ur height? 192cm or 200cm?

Mathew says on 28/Apr/13
Some people on this board seem to have the impression that 6'3" - 6'5" type heights make for a lot of problems aesthetically and functionally. But I think that most people in that height range (especially the lower half, but the upper half too) don't have many problems related to height functionally (except being cramped while traveling) or aesthetically (unless they're rake thin). I don't think those issues start until you get over the 6'6" mark. 6'3" - 6'5" heights however, stand out as the tall guy (especially 6'4" - 6'5"). This could be viewed as either a negative or a positive. I'm 190 cm (about 6'3") personally I don't feel like I am "too tall" as some suggest they view my height.

c-188cm says on 28/Apr/13
i am 188cm at night so i am a solid 6'2, what weight would you guys reckon i need to be to look 'filled in'? so to stop being lanky/skinny? i would say i have an average frame.

SolidSnake says on 28/Apr/13
Would it be correct to say exactly 5'10'' morning is the median height for an adult male in UK/USA

Mathew says on 27/Apr/13
@SAK - I agree on that. Too tall has more benefits than too short.

John says on 27/Apr/13
Guy 190-192 & Ud190.5cm,
Just to answer your questions:
I am starting having some facial hair, but it is practically invisible because it's white, and my voice is changing too. I think I'm starting pruberty.
I have practiced several sports just for fun. I had to give up martial arts because I am too tall and big. On my knees I am alomost as tall as my father & brother, and I can hold them both together... My weight is also the same as theirs together (my father is 120lbs.; my brother is just 110lbs; I am 240lbs. aprox).
At 10 and 11 I played Judo, Karate (2nd dan), Aikido, kickboxing, and boxing with 18 yld senior school fellows, who were my size, until 13, but now I am clearly to tall (and heavy and strong) for most adversaries in school.
Now I play ruggby (union, league, and Aussie rules), cricket and basketball, weightlifting, football, tennis.
I am a lifesaver in Summer (January) and I swim regularly, and I'm also a sailer.
Now I am on the 11th year, so I try to keep it going but I cannot invest much time on sport.

John says on 27/Apr/13
Guy 190-192 & Ud190.5cm,
Thank you so much.
It's nice to talk about this openly, and it's easier when we don't know each other. Of course these questions are not tragic but they create a certain stress. We are all very lucky if we are reasonably healthy, but esthetics matters, and I think this debate is essentially about that.
My close family is far shorter than me (my father is 5'5, my mother is 5'7, and my 20 yld brother is 5'7 too. I have Scottish relatives about my height (and school fellows here in Canberra, as well) but at home I am so much taller than everybody else that I tend to feel just like very much above everybody, just like feeling sorry for my brother. My girlfriend is 5'11. My brother always states that he feels happy not only for me but also for himself, because he feels 'proud' for having me so 'powerful' by him. Of course this is only metaphorical, but it is human nature. I totally agree with what you mean by trying to hide your height. When I was still a boy I tryied not to stand up by my father, as I felt somehow umprotected by him. Being my father he was supposed to be stronger and bigger than me, when at 11 I was already same size, even taller and bigger (at 12 I was 5'6 /5'7), an inch or two above him; and my shoe-size was already 10. My father soon understood that physically I was a massive man compared to him. Now he gets me by the armpit.
My shoe-size is a UK 13 / EU 47. His is UK 5 / EU 38, my shoe-size at 8...
My brother and I developed a very close relationship because I grew much earlier, but I still feel a bit uncomfortable for having him like a little boy by my side when we walk together or stand together. I'd rather we were more approximate in stature (like the Hemworth brothers, eg), even if he insists that he feels like escorted by his bodyguard and that he appreciates the sensation of confidence and protection, moreover because he has always been charged with the responsibility of overseeing me when we were young, even if we were almost same size (because at 8 and 12 respectively we were same height).
On the other hand, being taken for an adult very early makes you more responsible earlier. At 10 I wore my father's clothes, at 11 I was a normal 5'5 man and was addressed as Sir. At 14 I was already 6'3, so you don't expect a childish behaviour from a man that size...
A 2m tall man is more noticeable anywhere, so you cannot hide behind. In an airport, in a filling station, in shops, in public tranport, you are head-and- shoulder above most men. Whatever your age you have to assume your 'status', that's what my father prepared me for. And you expected to help the 'little' people around you; they are half you size. In fact a 20kg bag for me is far easier to carry then for my brother of for my father. It's obvious that I can easily help a tiny air-hostess or the steward (that most of the times just reach my waist) to put a heavy (for them) bag in the locker. From that point of view it is very rewarding to be our size, isn't it.
There are inconvenients: You have got a smaller size of shoes and clothes from the big and tall men's department, it is unfortable to travel in tourist class (but you are very often upgraded for your size...)

Late 187cm says on 27/Apr/13
SolidSnake says on 26/Apr/13
Im almost 20yo now and Ive grown 8cm since turning 17, and 3 cm since turning 18. To give an idea to some people who have asked I think +1-2cm from 18 and +3-4cm from 17 is standard.

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I don't think there is a standard. We all grow at different rates.

Jack says on 27/Apr/13
Rob, Billy Currington has recently been arrested or something and in his mugshot he stands at around 163cm, but his profile on google says he's 175cm. Can you please find out more?

Sterling says on 27/Apr/13
I'm 185 cm at night, and 185 cm in the morning lol

c-mo says on 27/Apr/13
@SAK

yeah you are right but i didnt write anything different

taller is always better than shorter but i do not agree with your opinion that a height like say 6'4 or 6'5 is better than 5'10-5'11 ....5'10 is better than 6'4 and above and even 6'3 in most cases and 5'11 is DEFINITELY better than 6'3 and above ......at 5'9 yes then it begins that heights like 6'3+ are better BUT only if the body fits too ...I myself am 5'9 and would choose 6'3-6'5 over my height but only if i could keep my body structure

most people over 6'2 just dont look good and have certain problems because of their height ....that doesnt mean that being over 6'2 cant be great but in most cases it is not whereas 5'8-5'9 often looks allright and 5'10-5'11 often looks good and dont cause daily problems like clothes , bed , cars , doors etc.

there are more people who look good at 5'10-5'11 and maybe even 5'8-5'9 than at 6'3+ but if 6'3+ has the right body and propotions than it is better than 5'11 and under but only up to a certain point like 6'6 ....5'10 is 100000% better than 6'7 and over

SAK says on 27/Apr/13
c-mo says:
I would say under 5'11 and over 6'2 cant be perfect
under 5'10 and over 6'4 cant be GOOD
under 5'8 and over 6'6 cant be OKAY/DECENT
under 5'6 and over 6'8 is total **** (sorry)
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A lot of posters on here seem to do this and I totally disagree. When you choose a certain height range in this case (5f11-6f2) as the best. And they say from this point it equally becomes negative whether you go down or up. That just isn't the case.

If we take 6f-6f1 many see ideal or good heights. The further you go down the more height becomes a negative from this point, Yes.

But the same is not true when go up. Yes, being very tall(6f3+) or extremely tall(6f5+) may not be ideal, but they still have many positive aspects to them. Being shorter then average has nothing positive,and you have to overcompensate with other aspects of you.

Basically, the further down you go from 6f/6f1 your height becomes more and more a negative. The further up you go, there maybe some negative aspects and many positive aspects aswell so things dont always get worse, and thats why some people who are 6f4 prefer it to being 6f1. Men who are 5f9 will pretty always want to be 6f though.

17, 182 says on 27/Apr/13
Personally, I just think anywhere from 5'8-6'3 is a good height range for males. At 5'8, you're taller than the majority of girls, without looking short. You can build muscle at this height and not come off as a "manlet". Over 6'3 is just too tall for most girls, and your face and body starts looking a bit out of place. The tallest I'd like to be is 6'2, but even that is pushing it a little.

SolidSnake says on 26/Apr/13
Im almost 20yo now and Ive grown 8cm since turning 17, and 3 cm since turning 18. To give an idea to some people who have asked I think +1-2cm from 18 and +3-4cm from 17 is standard

Ud190.5cm says on 26/Apr/13
@John
I really admire your height and honestly I do envy people taller than I am I'm 18 and before I reach 23 I want to be atleast 194cm.Btw are you an athlete coz athletics and swimming helped me sprout.

c-mo says on 26/Apr/13
how is this ? :

night heights

158cm and under = wtf man

164cm and under = very short and you dun goofed

172cm and under = short but 170-172cm still fits in without too much problems ...for example imo you cant compare a height like 166cm with 171cm for various reasons....the more you fall under 173cm the worse it gets

173-176cm = low average with a short flavour --- at 173cm + you dont have to worry too much anymore even if you still have a little disadvantage ....the taller you are from this point the "safer" you are.......in this category one side of me thinks "be happy that you made it at least to this point" and the other side thinks "**** a few cm more and everything would be so good" but i think being thankful is better ;)

177-180cm = solid average and very medium --- at 177cm + you dont have to worry at all and you are 100% not short anymore ...the taller you are from this point the more of an advantage you have

181-183cm = high average with a tall flavour ....equivalent to 173-176cm but the better side :D

so to sum it up : 173-183cm is very normal/medium but under 177cm will feel and be viewed as kinda short and over 177cm as kinda tall depending where you are and also how you dress how you are built etc. but it is nothing significant . I mean nobody will view a 175cm guy and think "oh so short" or a 182cm and think "oh such a tall man" unless the people who make such statements are really tall or short themselves or have specific views on height

184cm and above = tall

192cm and above = very tall


imo 183 or 184cm at night (so 185-186cm out of bed) is the best height a man can have


sorry for so much blabla and for a lot of you it is nothing new but i was bored and wanted to share this so tell me your opinions lol

Alex says on 26/Apr/13
What is it with this 6ft1 vs 6ft2 debate? Damn, people it's just one inch. An inch is barely noticable. I mean, hair alone adds more height than that.

Guy 190-192 says on 26/Apr/13
@John, it's funny you should ask because I'm by far the tallest in my family. My Ghanian dad is 5'7 and a half and my Irish mother is 5'4. Both of my grandfathers are ridiculously short, closer to 5'0 than 5'8. And my two brothers are 5'10.5 and 6'0 respectively. I was never really embarassed up until now. I tend to slouch to an absurd degree (when I walk around I drop about nine inches of height) But when I stand up straight I feel like I look as if I'm trying to be assertive, so I kinda downplay it to look humble. Just last week I was standing right next to a 6'8 guy upright and my eye was at his mouth. I never really feel towered anymore and I'm a hell of alot happier at 6'3 1/4 than at 5'8 like last year. There aere big disadvantages (lanky arms are very hard to sculpt, beds are too small and car roofs are just impractical), but I think we're very fortunate. I'd love to top out at no higher than 6'5-6'6 (your height. The average NBA player is 6'6.96 and 6'6 is the last height you can be without being literally pro-basketballer size. There's tall and then there's garguntuan). After all, if we only get one body, why not relish being a height some people will never have. It's perplexing that tall guys get pegged as arrogant douches, because I really don't think tall people see themselves as superior (I know I don't). Totally random process. Nonetheless, I'm very happy being tall, especially considering my short genes. I just wish I had bigger feet (I wear size 8's) and some facial hair.

Alex says on 26/Apr/13
@Yitzhak: I think I've read manytimes that men continue to grow unti 20-21. But you're right, most of them don't gain much height. 2-3 cms the most.

SAMMY DERRICK says on 26/Apr/13
Isaiah you could be surprised to be 6 foot plus and having the smoldering looks of both races.

John says on 25/Apr/13
Guy 190-192
Is your family about your height?
In my family everybody is much shorter then me, so my clothes do not get mixed with anybody else's now, but on the other hand I cannot exchange anything with my brother, except for ties.
I think your height is absoloutely ideal. You are a definitely tall guy but not too tall.
I find myself a bit too tall for finding clothes (mainly shoes) and for getting into cars and on bikes. Of course it has its advantages, such as being able to see everything in public places.
As a fire-fighter it is very convenient for some heavy duty tasks.
You have put on 100 pounds, so you must be a strong man too. That's pretty good, provided you keep agile.
Anyway, we mustn't complain.

John says on 25/Apr/13
Guy 190-192,
Your growth chart looks exactly like mine until we were 12/13. I had my massive growth whe I was 14 and after. We are same age now but I am about two inches taller.
I too was an extremely tall preteen.
Didn't it make you sometimes embarrassed? Especially when you were taken for much older in school. And when you were as tall as most adults.
I didn't like to go to the board because I felt bad the teachers, mainly when most of them started to get by my shoulder. Now I am used to that but when you are still a child it makes you feel uncomfortable.

Sammy Derrick,
I think you could do some exercises and play basketball. Everything vertical is appropriate to help growth.
Anyway you are not short at all, but if you wish to get taller just try something consistently.

SAK says on 25/Apr/13
Does anyone know whether AFL player height listings are accurate. Apparently they have similar height measuring like they do for nba draft scout. I dont think that is correct. To me the AFL listings seem slightly inflated (maybe by 1").

Late 187cm says on 25/Apr/13
The most interesting debate to me is 6'1 vs 6'2...which is better?
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Why it's 6'1.5 of course ;) ;) ;)

SAK says on 25/Apr/13
17, 182 says: I think a LEGIT 5'8-6'3 is ideal for aesthetic reasons.
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Aesthetically, I would argue 6f4 is better then 5f8-5f10(5f11).

c-mo says on 25/Apr/13
17, 182 says on 25/Apr/13
It's hard to say really what's the perfect height. Right off the bat I can say for sure definately not under 5'8, but also can't be over 6'3. Guys under 5'8 just look too short, but also guys over 6'3 look unproportional. Their limbs are just too long and even if you have muscle on them, you still have an unproportional physique. I think a LEGIT 5'8-6'3 is ideal for aesthetic reasons. But maybe I'm looking into it too much?

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I would say under 5'11 and over 6'2 cant be perfect
under 5'10 and over 6'4 cant be GOOD
under 5'8 and over 6'6 cant be OKAY/DECENT
under 5'6 and over 6'8 is total **** (sorry)

mike says on 25/Apr/13
shoenicefan1 says on 24/Apr/13
average hieght guys 5'10 5'11 at 200+ pounds with low bodyfat and muscular looks better than 6.1 guy at 150 with no muscles.

of course but a 6'1 200+ with muscles will look much better than a 5'10 guy at the same size.

Larry says on 25/Apr/13
Isaiah...according to the formula ur mother is 58 inches + ur father who is 72 u will get 130, add 5 to that andd divide by 2. You will get 67.5. Add 4 to that and its 71.5. So ur maximum potential is 5"11.5. Id say you either reach that or at least 70 inches which is 5'10. Now nothing is super accurate but it is a very good guestimation.

Dmeyer says on 25/Apr/13
Rob i have friend who is 5'8.5 , h� just Turned 17 , his father is 6'1.5 his mother is 5'4 , at 13 he was 5 ft 1 now 5'8.5 , but his friends same �ge got taller than him like 5'10-10.5 in , hoW tall would he be

Ud190.5cm says on 25/Apr/13
@KAREM,
Dude we both have same measurements but my wingspan is exactly equal to my height but i don't think its abnormal in your case cause I'm 18 and my built is slender but my shoulders are bit narrow and slouched like Clint Eastwood's so at times people think its abnormal.

Stephen 181 says on 25/Apr/13
Isaiah, considering you have a tallish dad you are lucky: i was 5'9 at 17 with a 5'11 dad and a 5'4 mom, but i had a late growth spurt from 19 to 21 and ended up being a solid 5'11 - 181 at night - i think you are probably close to your final height i'll put my money at around 5'10 as your final height no more.

Interesting thing i had a late growth spurt as my dad had during his 19-21 - so i think is kinda genetic - if your dad had a late growth spurt your chances to have one too are important i guess...it depends man! but my feeling for you is a 5'10 max...bang on average height not bad height kinda ok height for everyday life

Elijah says on 25/Apr/13
Billy your low will likely be a flat 177 or a little under. But your legit claim would be 178cm/5'10" if anyone asks.

17, 182 says on 25/Apr/13
It's hard to say really what's the perfect height. Right off the bat I can say for sure definately not under 5'8, but also can't be over 6'3. Guys under 5'8 just look too short, but also guys over 6'3 look unproportional. Their limbs are just too long and even if you have muscle on them, you still have an unproportional physique. I think a LEGIT 5'8-6'3 is ideal for aesthetic reasons. But maybe I'm looking into it too much?

Isaiah says on 24/Apr/13
My mom is Filipino who stands at 4'10 plus her family are all short whilst my dad is a 6 foot Irishman. How tall am I supposed to be? Im 5'9 now at 17

Billy says on 24/Apr/13
I got measured lunchtime at 177.5cm doing little exercise. What would my evening/low be?

Yitzhak says on 24/Apr/13
@Sammy derrick

Don't let that guy mislead you - there is almost zero chance you will reach 6'1 or 6'2". You probably won't reach 5'10" either. The vast majority of guys at 17-18 have reached within half an inch of their final height, or have completely hit it.

shoenicefan1 says on 24/Apr/13
average hieght guys 5'10 5'11 at 200+ pounds with low bodyfat and muscular looks better than 6.1 guy at 150 with no muscles.

Guy 190-192 says on 24/Apr/13
@SammyDerrick, I'm 16 and 6'2.75-6'3.5 and I went through a very similar growth experience. My chart:
10 - 5'1
11 - 5'3
12 - 5'5
13 - 5'6
14 - 5'7
15 - 5'8
16- 6'0.5
16 1/4 - 6'3
Basically, I was an extremely tall preteen but just when everyone was shotting up I went through this period of stagnation. Up until just after I turned 15 and I had a massive growth spurt. It's abundantly clear that you haven't had your growth spurt. I'm almost certain you'll do a Dennis Rodman, bro, just be patient. I gained 7 inches and 100 pounds in just over a year! You're just a late bloomer. You could end up at any height from 5-9 to 6-5 - only time will tell, but have faith. And btw, 5'9 is asverage anyway, so you have nothing to worry about.

KEREM says on 24/Apr/13
My height is out of bed 192-193cm and 190-191cm at night. However, my wingspan is 185cm. Is it possible? Is my wingspan abnormal according to my height of 191cm? Please reply it.

c-mo says on 24/Apr/13
Andy 185cm says on 23/Apr/13
U guys are ridicoulous, belive what u want, tiptoe haha! Im 6'1 live with it haters!

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we dont care kid

Andy 185cm says on 24/Apr/13
I know i shoulda relaxed more, but i swear, im not tiptoeing or nothing, im not a bad person, im just getting sad that some persons believe that im tiptoeing!

Niteriser says on 24/Apr/13
My height rating for American men as a whole would be:

5'4": 1
5'5": 1.5
5'6": 3
5'7": 5.5
5'8": 7.2
5'9": 7.8
5'10": 8.4
5'11': 9
6'0": 9.5
6'1": 9.7
6'2": 9.1
6'3": 8.7
6'4": 7
6'5": 4.5
6'6": 2
6'7": 0

oli185.5at20 says on 24/Apr/13
perfect height imo 6'2 6'3 (189cm)
just tall. but not to tall.

Zach24 says on 23/Apr/13
I know on TV that there are action heroes who stand 5'4"-7'. In my opinion, I would put the action heroes standing 5'6" or shorter up to 6'.

Larry says on 23/Apr/13
@ SAMMY DERRICK
im 5'11 about 182cm morning and around 180 low. First i want to ask how tall are your parents? looking at your chart i was about 5'6 or 5'7 when i was 12/13 and at about 16 i reached my final height or maybe 17. What i would do is add your mother height and father height in inches, add 5 and divide by 2. if you add 4 inches to that number it will show you your range. For me it is 72 inches using my parents morning height. and 182 is a little under 72 inches, so the formula is accurate

Jon189 says on 23/Apr/13
Magreb - 6'6 for sure.

Im 6'2 and people consistently consider me 6'4 - thats because so many people who are 5 .11 or 5 10.5 call themselves 6 footers.

I believe 6ft 4 is required to be considered ' the tall guy '. 62 or 63 are not quite there. Its not the first thing people think when they see me.

6'4..your height is your distinguishing characteristic.

Xevan says on 23/Apr/13
Lol andy, just relax in those pictures men, always putting your head up to make you seem taller :p I believe you, what you claim you are. Don't let those people make you a picture of yourself with a measure or something ;d. And it's possible to grow after your 18 years, At 18 i was 184, at 19 186 and now at 20 im something 187cm now. I always hoped to reached 190cm because my father is around that height. I was really a late bloomer so i still have this small hope ;p but i'm not depending on it.

Andy 185cm says on 23/Apr/13
U guys are ridicoulous, belive what u want, tiptoe haha! Im 6'1 live with it haters!

Zach24 says on 23/Apr/13
My height ratings in my opinion:
-5'2"/0
5'3"/1
5'4"/2
5'5"/3
5'6"/4
5'7"/5
5'8"/6
5'9"/7
5'10"/8
5'11"/9
6'/10
6'1"/9
6'2"/8
6'3"/7
6'4"/6
6'5"/5
6'6"/4
6'7"/3
6'8"/2
6'9"/1
6'10"+/0

What do you think? 5' is crazy short, 6' is normal and 7' is crazy huge

SAMMY DERRICK says on 23/Apr/13
John my I wear 8 1/2 shoes so according to you 6'1 to 6'2 that's Good.
STEPHEN 181-5'10 TO 5'11 not bad but not good either.

Baz says on 23/Apr/13
@Andy
If you really want to prove to us that you're 185cm, then you have two options: 1. Record yourself measuring your height with either a stadiometer or a measuring tape. We'll need to see the whole thing too. Show us the surface you're measuring upon and your feet so we don't get suspicious. 2. Show us a picture of yourself with a celebrity that Rob has taken a photo with. It has to be a full body shot. We'll need to know the footwear. Those are your only options to pick from if you really need to prove your height to Celebheights.com once and for all. Any other way won't be accepted. Those pictures you just posted are terrible for height comparison.

About the 6f1 vs 6ft2 debate: They are both great heights and I pretty much agree with SAK's description of them. 6f1 for tall and blending in, 6f2 for being even taller and standing out as a result, although not to an exteme extent like taller heights, so you are still "normal". It's a tough choice, but I'd probably go for 6f1.

Magreb says on 23/Apr/13
Do you think a man who stands at 6'4" with decent posture gets mistaken more often as someone who's 6'6" or 6'2"?

John says on 23/Apr/13
Sammy Derrick,
You have always been considerably tall as a boy. Why have you slowed down at 13/14?
Look I am very tall (6'5"1/2 at 16) and at 12 we were almost the same height.
I think you are a late bloomer (I hope I be not...)
I think you will reach 6'1/6'2" at least.
Btw what is your shoe-size?

MD says on 23/Apr/13
Andy,

Until you post a picture showing yourself in front a tape measure, or something, you can really stop trying to fool us and yourself, included. This is getting really old and annoying.

SolidSnake says on 23/Apr/13
I'd prefer 6'2'' over 6'1'', stands out better. Apparently im 6 foot, 183cm at lowest measured by doctor, from time to time I feel tall but most often just average. Call me ungrateful or whatever but im not satisfied with my height, 6 foot is NOT standout and NOT solid tall. 6'1'' low is MINIMUM to be solid tall, 6'2'' better still and 6'3'' plus becomes unnecessary

Mathew says on 22/Apr/13
17, 182 says on 21/Apr/13
thc, your heights are defiantly off. 5'11 is not average for young white men, it's more in the 5'9.5-5'10 range. My dad is a legit 179 cm (5'10.5") and he's noticeably taller than the majority of my white male friends, except for ofcourse a few. Also, how on earth does 6'4 rank higher than 6'0? You sound like those very short women who thinks a 5'10 guy is 6'1 haha.

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I agree about the average height for adult males being closer to 5'10" and not 5'11". As for 6'4" being better than 6'0"... I'm 6'3", I'd rather gain an inch than lose 3. I'd even take 6'4" over 6'1", but I realize that I'm probably in the minority on that one.

Finnian says on 22/Apr/13
@thc average is like 5'9 1/2 at the most in US. Not 5'11"

@Josh 6'1" > 6'2"