General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added mention it on this page.
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Alex said on 29/Jun/16
Rob from the eye to the top of head there are around 11-12 cm, right?
Editor Rob: between those marks is a very common range if you measure people's eyelines.

13cm is a very big eyelevel, 10cm range is quite a small eyelevel.
truth said on 29/Jun/16
@the Slav nope not to you only but these ARE the tallest places in the world proven by measurement (roughly from 181 cm to 185 cm I would guess).
c-mo said on 29/Jun/16
@truth : yeah it is objective but according to my observations/experiences in life around 182-183cm is the best height . of course 6'1-6'2 are great too no question so I understand when you view it as ideal .

btw. your height charts are not correct . most of you guys dont even live in a taller country than me ...wtf is going on ? we are talking about barefeet noon/afternoon heights right ?

this is how it is :

5'3 and under = exeptionally short

5'4-5'5 = strong short

5'6 - 5'7 = standard short . typical short man you encounter daily

5'8 = below average . a little short but not by much. at this height people will start to notice that you are a little shorter than the average man but it is nothing that will draw much attention or something even though a few short comments you can get sometimes especially by tall people . in general though at this height you should "blend in" without much problems but you should avoid thin sneakers and bad posture =)

5'9 - 5'11 = average range with 5'10 being mean average height . at 5'11 (which is high average) a decent amount of people will already see you as tall though . at least by a little . of course it depends on the person. 5'9 flat is weak average and at times you might feel a bit shortish and taste the flavor of 5'8 :D lol even though you are not short anymore really

6'0 = above average .tallish . equivalent to 5'8 . at 6'0 people will notice that you are a little taller than the average man but you wont hear things like "the tall dude" or something that often . but many people especially when they are short will definitely view you as tall now

6'1 - 6'3 = tall . this is the standard tall height range .

6'4 is starting to get to the very tall range but depending on circumstances it can go either way (tall at times and very tall at times)

6'5 - 6'7 = very tall

6'8+ = exeptionally tall
truth said on 29/Jun/16
@MD He is a teen as far as I know, cut him some slack lol, the kid will learn in a few years time, I was like this some 3-5 years ago.
NX said on 29/Jun/16
@ice there are a lot of guys in uk that clear 6 foot but over here if you are 6'2 flat you are gonna be taller than the majority of people. Anyway ice you should appreciate you are not average height with the proportions of a short man cos trust me its not good having a 29 inch inseam because it makes me look 5 or 6 inches shorter than I actually am and Im 5'9 by the end of the day, I see many women my height or taller on a daily basis.
truth said on 29/Jun/16
@Ice Average in Austria is the same as in Slovenia, 179 - 180 cm ( 179 cm for the overall male demographic, 180 cm for younger males). I really do not care what you write from this point on, the cold hard fact remains that those figures are 2 official measurements that refute anything you say from now on. Anecdotal evidence =/= statistical evidence.
OG Loc said on 28/Jun/16
I live in US those time specifically in Wisconsin and you know that I have a conclusion that average height in US exactly no less that 5 ft 10-10.5 but this is common mostly for white Americans ...I saw lots of adult and old people who were over 6 ft but of course there were some people under 5 ft 10
My height is 5 ft 10.5 and I give this comment from my feelings
Greg said on 28/Jun/16
I hope I'm not commenting anything that would be against the terms, as I've read them and don't believe that I am violating them :/. I just think that the taller a guy is the more ideal his height might be up until I'd say 6'3 after that you kind of reach a height where it might get uncomfortable. 6'2 is like my dream height, I know I could have ended up shorter so I am glad I didn't but kind of wish I was just a tad bit taller. However being close to 6'0 isn't too shabby after all.
NX said on 28/Jun/16
@rob also do you reckon its possible to overmeasure yourself on stadiometer. I bought my own recently and find I measure 179cm in the morning on the stadiometer but I feel much shorter, is there a chance it could be in an error in the stadiometer or do you think it could be the surface im placing it on?
Editor Rob: to tell if the stadiometer is off, you need to hold a tape measure, set the measuring part to 5ft then put the tape beside it and that will give an idea.
NX said on 28/Jun/16
Hey rob how much height roughly do you reckon a person can lose if they have poor posture?
Editor Rob: it really can vary, some people might naturally stand 0.5-3cm shorter than what they would measured. You might need to see someone in person to get a sense of how much they can lose...
truth said on 28/Jun/16
@Ice More like

Under 5'9 = short
5'9= below average
5'10-5'11= average
6'0= above average
6'1-6'2= tall
6'3-6'5= very tall
6'6 or more = extremely tall
french guy said on 28/Jun/16
The perfect height for a man is between 185 and 195 cm, it's objective
Men in this range don't envy guys who are 183 cm, but the opposite is true

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"The most satisfying height for a man is 6ft 3in"

ouch...
Peter 179cm said on 28/Jun/16
@ Locx It's legit short since it's near 3 inches below average.
Korean said on 28/Jun/16
@Master rob
hey rob, I have forward head posture. Is this disease affect my height?
Editor Rob: if you have a head that tilts a bit at the beck forwards, then you might lose a cm or 2 depending on the severity compared to a more upright neck.
Greg said on 28/Jun/16
@Ice weird my comment must have not went through or something. I was saying you should feel lucky to be 6'2" because I'm 5'11" and 6'2" is the ideal height and my dream height.
Canson said on 28/Jun/16
Ice: your averages are way off. In the US 5'8-5'10 is average. Anything 5'11 or over would be tall. I don't buy the average height in the world 5'10. I think that comes from people lying about their height. A legit 5'10 actually looks like they're getting up their even from my perspective as they'd come to my mid nose
truth said on 28/Jun/16
@c-mo I would not call 5'11-6'0 perfect but nonetheless a very good height still. Perfect is subjective though, to me that would be 6'1-6'2.
MD said on 28/Jun/16
@Ice, why are you trolling so hard for a response? It's not as if you add anything interesting. When people stop talking about your or to you you drop in some one-sentence piece of ridiculousness. Are you that starved for attention in your real world life?
Kourosh said on 28/Jun/16
Kaneff said on 25/Jun/16
6'1.25"/186 cm at night is basically the perfect height.
i am 5'9.25 / 176cm at night and i consider it as okayish height :D

how a digit of number can makes whole alot of difference about yourself.
Roy said on 27/Jun/16
@Ice. It's funny that your perception of heights has everyone under your height as short and then you have 7 categories for people taller then you. lol. When your out you probably don't notice or care to notice anyone under your height, so I'm sure you do feel the average is 6'2.

Ice said on 26/Jun/16
Under 5'10 = short
5'11-6'1 = average
6'2 = a little above average
6'3 - 6'4 = tall
6'5 - 6'6 = stand out tall
6'7 - 6'8 = very tall
6'9 - 7'2" = giant
7'3-7'7" = freak
7'8"+ = too tall
Roy said on 27/Jun/16
FICTION:. Just went out to a bar and saw at least 8 or 9 people that were 6'6 and up. I was the smallest out of anyone. This is why I believe the average in the US is now around 6'3-6'4. TRUTH: it was bunch of basketball players hanging out and I was too worried trying to figure out their heights to notice all the other people shorter then me.

Even the average of the "all male" US army rangers is 5'9. There will always be areas with shorter or taller people but it all averages out.
Roy said on 27/Jun/16
I am exactly the US average height 5'9.5 evening. As the average man I view men 6'1 and over tall..and men 5'5 and under short. Obviously if your taller or shorter your going to have a different view. I've seen comments where someone calls another short because they are 1-2 inches less, and to them they are "towering" over them. No..your about the same height.
Korean said on 27/Jun/16
night height 185.6cm is good height?
the Slav said on 27/Jun/16
I'd say a legit 6'0 is taller than 66-70 % of all young men here in Scandinavia. Fairly above average but still within normal range. Start of solid tall here is more like 6'2, at least in Denmark where I live. Scandinavia, Northern Germany, Netherlands and the Balkans seem to be the tallest regions in the world, to me at least
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 27/Jun/16
Hey Rob how often do you see women in the 6ft 1in range 6ft 3in range in public i play this game called sims i created female sims that are giants one in the 6ft 1in range one in the 6ft 3in range.
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Editor Rob: I rarely see women 6ft 1-3 range...but I'm usually walking about my town, not a big city which will offer a greater opportunity at seeing heights at the extreme end.
Jimbo said on 27/Jun/16
@Rob
How tall would you have to be to be a strong 5 10? What about a weak 5 10?
Editor Rob: if you don't drop under 5ft 10 you might fall into the strong range, even at your low being a little fraction over covers it...similarly if you fall a fraction under 5ft 10 at your low, maybe 1/3rd inch you might be a weak 5ft 10.

Some may even say 5ft 9.5 at night could qualify you for a weak 5ft 10.
Canson said on 27/Jun/16
It's funny people mention proportions. If Ice had a 36" inseam he'd probably look and maybe feel 6'3 and get 6'4. Just how it is.
Ice said on 27/Jun/16
I have rather long legs . I dont know my exact inseam but I def do not have short legs at all .I have a rather small head . Im athletic and slim . I have the right porportions to appear tall , its just beeing 6'2" that does not make me feel tall . Its just from comparing myself to others that I dont feel tall . Nobody here in Austria would view me as tall even though Im almost 190 cm right out of bed . Its a fact guys , Im not trolling . 6'2" is not tall . Period . You might argue it to be a little above average , but at the end of the day there are just too many guys that are 6'4"+ , and make me feel short , to make me feel like I have a respectable height at 6'2" . In the last week I even saw a woman that was taller than me !
NX said on 27/Jun/16
@ice you must have really odd proportions if you dont feel tall at your height. If you have anything under a 32 inch inseam you are going to appear shorter than you actually are. Me and my friend are both 5'9 but he appears a little bit taller because he has better proportions that make him look taller than he is, his inseam is 33 inches which is just above the average where as mine is 29, thats really short legs for a guy my height and it makes me appear very small, I also had growth problems when I was younger, it was only in my fourth year of high school that I started growing before that I was only 5'1.
c-mo said on 27/Jun/16
french guy said on 24/Jun/16
c-mo said on 21/Jun/16
182cm after being awake for a couple of hours (like 5) is absolute perfection

I know everybody has their own ideal height but trust me on this it is really the best height to be

this guy is really trying to reassure himself, damn

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wassup man how are you ? have you already get your legs broken to get up to190cm ? then you will become a real man and dominate us all . you are very confident and an alpha male
Locx said on 27/Jun/16
Is 168.8cm barefoot considered short for a 25 year old guy? I'm that height and around 170.3-6cm with shoes (depends on the shoes), 171.9cm with boots.

I always saw myself as average height, because I hang out with like 160-165cm guys, but I don't know...

Also, I'll just say that 5'11'' is legit the ideal height, in my eyes. My friend measured himself at 182.2cm, and his height + posture always looks way better than taller guys like 6'3''-6'5''. 5'11'' and I suppose 6ft are the perfect height. Tall enough, but not too tall to appear lanky or physically overwhelming.
Ice said on 26/Jun/16
I (6'2") was at a festival in Vienna today with my 6'2.5" cousin , and have to say : 6'2" for a young , white male is dead average in Austria .
chevy said on 26/Jun/16
hi rob what is the tall range for men and women?
the Slav said on 26/Jun/16
@Rob
Is it possible to over measure yourself?
Editor Rob: yes, if the floor slants slightly towards the wall, then your heels will be sitting slightly higher than where the wall meets the floor, thus a slight over-measurement is possible.

Similarly if the wall tilted towards you slightly, the same slight over-estimation can occur.
CS said on 26/Jun/16
@truth yeah, I know where Slovenia is. That's interesting, our parents are very similar. My Dad claimed to be 183 cm and my Mom claimed 168 cm, so both 1 cm over your parents' peak claims. My Dad's claim I had serious trouble believing before but now I think I understand where he is coming from. He probably was somewhere 181-182 peak (183 claim probably came from earlier measurement/rounding up) and now he's around 180-181. The reason I doubted his claim before was because he has pretty poor posture so he looks shorter than what he actually is but when I took his posture into account and looked at him, I think my theory is correct.

My Mom's case is interesting because I also doubted her 168 claim mainly because now even with good posture I have trouble believing her to be over 165 cm but it is possible for her to have been measured earlier in the day and now has shrunk around 2 cm or so. She also has an old photo of her with someone who is 180 cm range and I think she pulls off 167-168 cm range. It's hard to say though because I have trouble comparing heights when the difference is too great for some reason, like say 10+ cm.
Ice said on 26/Jun/16
Under 5'10 = short
5'11-6'1 = average
6'2 = a little above average
6'3 - 6'4 = tall
6'5 - 6'6 = stand out tall
6'7 - 6'8 = very tall
6'9 - 7'2" = giant
7'3-7'7" = freak
7'8"+ = too tall
truth said on 26/Jun/16
@Pitch_Fork @Dmax

5'9 = just below average
6'2 = only tall
5'10=average
truth said on 26/Jun/16
@Pitch_Fork @Dmax

5'9 = just below average
6'2 = only tall
5'10=average
Luca said on 26/Jun/16
Rob,I measured myself at 188.9 cm after 7 hours and 30 minutes I woke up...What height should I claim to be?Please tell me your opinion,because I'm a bit confused ahahah
Editor Rob: claim 189cm and you'll be seen as honest and truthful through life with regards to your height.
MrTBlack said on 26/Jun/16
Hey Rob being from Scotland what region are usually the 6'3"+ Scots or is that mostly in folklore? Thanks
Editor Rob: you might find pockets of above average height, but I've never really seen any region with noticeably taller overall averages.
HB said on 26/Jun/16
Rob, I've measured my morning and evening heights as 184.4/182.5. What should I claim as my height, I just say 6'0 usually.
Editor Rob: for practical purposes I think saying 6ft is perfectly fine.
Life said on 26/Jun/16
Hey rob, you should look up rene ranger I saw at the cinemas and I was taller than by abit. Not sure how tall he is though
Kaneff said on 25/Jun/16
6'1.25"/186 cm at night is basically the perfect height.
Life said on 25/Jun/16
I don't even know how I am do you guys are lucky to know you're height haha, I honestly feel short though.
the Slav said on 25/Jun/16
Ice, I'm 6'0 and I feel as impressive as a 5'0 Panda
Leo 5'8 said on 25/Jun/16
Tall women: 5'6
Tall men: 5'11.5
Peter 179cm said on 25/Jun/16
@ Ice Are you sure you're about 6'2?? It really makes me wonder how 6'0+ guys feel insecure about their height,i can barely even scratch the 6ft mark on a good day with some of my sneakers,yet i feel ok with my height generally,even though i wish i was 6'0 or 6'1.But if your sense of impressiveness in your mind means you have to be 6'4 or taller to tower almost everyone out there,then there's something wrong with you my friend...
Leo said on 25/Jun/16
Hey Rob. Can you please give me some tips on how to improve my posture? Thanks.
Editor Rob: the best tip might be to take up or watch some yoga videos, or pilates, those work on a variety of muscles that will help you naturally (without forcing) stand nearer your measured height.

For simplicity though, you might say doing little things could help:

Door reach - stand under door and reach up either side, hold for a few seconds and repeat.

Hanging Bar - a few minutes, 3 times a day.

Most people give up something like a Yoga/Pilates, but if you even do very basic stretches/hanging, that is easier to become a habit, 5 minutes a day is something we all can find...
truth said on 25/Jun/16
@Ice Well both heights are impressive on different degrees. 5'11 - 6'4 is ideal range. Also if you think all this stuff that you posted then I am sorry to say but you must have some sort of body dysmorphia.
Canson said on 25/Jun/16
@Ice: is your inseam short for your height? That may explain unless you live in a highly populous country for taller individual. In the states you'd be taller and feel than a 5'11 guy
grizz said on 25/Jun/16
@Rob, how much can a guy get in height when standing on his tip toes (size 11)? You mentioned in heel height article around 3ins, but that seems low to me. I'm banging my head on 6'5 door frame when standing on tip toes.
Editor Rob: the ankle is the pivot, so the longer the distance from your toes to ankle, the greater you can get.

So a size 11 will get over 3 inches.
Max said on 25/Jun/16
Dad: 6' 2.5"
Mom: 5' 7.5"
Me: 6' 0"

I'm 17 years old currently. Can I reach my father's height? My dad was 5' 11.5" when he was my age.
Ice said on 25/Jun/16
Im 6'2" , yet I feel as unimpressive as a 5'11" guy
Ice said on 25/Jun/16
Im 6'2" , yet I feel like 5'11 at most
chevy said on 24/Jun/16
hi rob what do you think is the tall range for men and women?
french guy said on 24/Jun/16
c-mo said on 21/Jun/16
182cm after being awake for a couple of hours (like 5) is absolute perfection

I know everybody has their own ideal height but trust me on this it is really the best height to be

this guy is really trying to reassure himself, damn
5'6 man said on 24/Jun/16
How many fellow shorties have had trouble with the ladies cos of your height?

Im at an age now where i should of experienced a relationship with a woman but everytime i go on a date my height bothers them. Hell I gave up online dating ages ago because 9 times out of 10 I would get rejected solely cos of my height.

I am considering going through with leg lengthening surgery to correct the burden.
Ice said on 24/Jun/16
I met a guy who claimed 207 cm , and at first I would have guessed him at like 193 cm . Im not lying . Never has a persons height confused me like that .
James B said on 23/Jun/16
Ha ha rob in that picture from 2005 you look a bit like magnum PI with the dark mustache
Editor Rob: I never really had a moustache on it's own, always some sort of stubble,beard/goatte since late high school years.
truth said on 23/Jun/16
@CS I am from Slovenia (small country in central Europe). My dad has claimed to be 182cm in his prime (in older pictures he looked at most that IMO or at least 181cm range), now he is closer to a flat 180 cm, maybe 180.5cm (measured at doctor). My mom claimed to be 167cm range peak, now was measured 166.5cm earlier in the day at the doctor and one time at 165cm flat. Both pretty much truthful, only round up 1cm at most due to earlier measurements.
Canson said on 23/Jun/16
@MathewRobinson190: what bothers me is after you tell them how tall you are and they try to tell you otherwise not so much me being guessed taller that is natural with my build.its when ppl tell you you're lying incompetent downplaying whatever it may be. It's insulting. I in recent years choose not to associate much with people who lie about how tall they are esp when they have to inflate others to make themselves that height. Even shoes if someone wants to claim their shoes (why they would is beyond me) that doesn't automatically translate to another person having to match them. Now 6'4.5 isn't 6'7 neither is 6'5 equal to 6'7. But that's just it I wouldn't want to be something I wasn't meant to be nor would I want to be any taller than I am. Don't see the redeeming qualities in anything more than maybe 6'5 if you aren't a pro athlete. Anything 6'2-6'5 is tall in my book and really is about as tall as you could be to where you don't go out of your way too much
Mathew Robinson (190 cm) said on 23/Jun/16
Canson said on 23/Jun/16
@Ice: it's a mixed bag truthfully. You don't get "compliments" about your height. I find it odd that it's significant to you because receiving compliments is not very important really it's how you carry yourself. But you could receive the ones I do or Bobby3342 or Ali Baba which are equally as frustrating when someone tries to tell you that you are taller than you are. "I'm 6'4 1/2". "No you have to be 6'6. My sisters's brother's third cousin removed is "insert" and you're much taller than him". Believe me it's just as frustrating and it is not a compliment. I find it more insulting when someone tries to tell you that you don't know your own body, that you're lying, that you're incompetent. Especially when you are content with your height and aren't into the fibbing and frauding up like some others do

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I've gotten the whole "oh my brother in law is 6-3 and you are definitely taller" bit before (which is also funny because by lunch time I'm really more of a 6'2 3/4") but it doesn't bother me for some reason. I'm almost 30, I guess I am used to whatever height related things come my way now! Basketball comments - I did play a bit when I was younger - but I was actually more focused on high jump in athletics. It doesn't get me worked up any, but then again the comments are not pervasive at my size. If I was 6'7" or something it might be a different story.
jajamen said on 23/Jun/16
@ Ice

Well. I grew 4.5-5 inches to 6'2 at 18-19, before I was 5'9.5 and my weight was the main factor, I was 54kg now 77kg. And my father is 5'10 and my mother is 5'5, my brother is 5'9 and my sister is 5'6.75, my mother's side have males who are 6 foot to 6'6, my grandfathers (both) are 6'0, And i have been told I'm more like my material grandfather because he was a late bloomer.
Canson said on 23/Jun/16
@Ice: it's a mixed bag truthfully. You don't get "compliments" about your height. I find it odd that it's significant to you because receiving compliments is not very important really it's how you carry yourself. But you could receive the ones I do or Bobby3342 or Ali Baba which are equally as frustrating when someone tries to tell you that you are taller than you are. "I'm 6'4 1/2". "No you have to be 6'6. My sisters's brother's third cousin removed is "insert" and you're much taller than him". Believe me it's just as frustrating and it is not a compliment. I find it more insulting when someone tries to tell you that you don't know your own body, that you're lying, that you're incompetent. Especially when you are content with your height and aren't into the fibbing and frauding up like some others do
Canson said on 23/Jun/16
@Strong 5'9": all good questions you ask because a legit 6'2 is tall, but the biggest one. It also has to do with Ice's body type I suspect. I'm a smidg over 6'5 out of bed and 6'4.5 avg with around 6'4 3/8 lowest and I have often gotten the comments the other direction that I'm taller than I am which is annoying as well because I just claimed 6'4 1/2 and the person will say no you have to be taller than that. But my question is Why does anyone care about recognition for their "height"? Being tall is great but people needing to hear reassurance and reaffirmation about height is a bit much. It doesn't determine who you are as a person. A real comment is about how someone looks dresses, how they perform in their careers or society what type of person they are, etc. how tall someone is is just an observation not a compliment.
Darius said on 23/Jun/16
Rob, I'm 5'7" at midnight(lowest height) and I'm 18. Is it possible to grow another inch and reach 5'8" or maybe even 5'9"? .My father said he reached his maximum height of 5'7.5" by 22. I was almost 5'6" at late 15 and only grew an inch or so by 18 .
Editor Rob: if he gained height in late teens, then there is a decent chance you may have the genes for a bit more growth, so I wouldn't give up hope yet. If you get another inch, I'd say you will have done well.
mrtguy said on 22/Jun/16
Rob, about how tall is 260 cm?? Click Here
Editor Rob: doesn't quite look that tall, but then he's got trouble actually standing to his fullest height. I think for a measurement the man needed an aid to hold on to.
Luca said on 22/Jun/16
Dear Rob,I think I've grown a bit during the last 2 months (I'm 16).I measure 191.2 cm out of bed and 189 cm at the end of the day...I measured again my wingspan and it is 189.8 cm...Do you think I can still grow up? (My father is as tall as me,my mum is 171 cm and my sister is 180 cm)
Editor Rob: the odds are you may still pick up a few cm...but at your height I wouldn't be disapointed if you didn't grow more than a cm, that is a quite tall height to live life at.
Just Average said on 22/Jun/16
Hey Rob I have a question for you

Why is it sometimes a guy can have lower shoulders than someone else who is shorter, what I mean is I have a friend who has higher shoulders than me but im still taller as my eye level is just a bit above his, I edge him out by about an inch but I just find it strange how his shoulders are higher than mine yet im still a bit taller.
Editor Rob: it's just nature, body shapes vary and sometimes you can find a person with higher/square shoulder frame and others with more of a lower/sloping...
Alex said on 22/Jun/16
Hi Rob, how tall should be someone if a 173 cm guy is under his nose?
Editor Rob: you would think near 6ft 2 range, possibly 6ft 3 if they have a reasonably big head
Canary said on 22/Jun/16
@Strong 5ft9: Your sister is extremely short for her age, but there's nothing wrong with that. It indeed is unusual for a sixteen-year-old girl to be 5'0 or shorter. 5'0 is at or around the fourth percentile while 4'11 is at somewhere between the first percentile and the third percentile. It's possible that your sister, who is off-the-chart tiny, is at or around the 1/2 percentile. That's just a guess. If your sister doesn't grow past 4'10, she supposedly could be classified as a "little person", according to their advocacy group. Personally, I don't buy that figure. I think that true dwarfism, proportional or not, starts at 4'8 for women and 5'0 for men, with regional variations based on average heights in said regions. Anyway, your sister is perfectly fine. She should have no REAL height-related problems in life. :)
the Slav said on 22/Jun/16
@Rob
Never too old for a Big G joke ;)
CS said on 22/Jun/16
@truth cool haha. I'm 19. Where are you from btw? Just curious.

My parents being about a cm lower than than what they claim minus another cm for my Dad and minus 2 cm for my Mom makes sense. That means my Mom now is roughly 3 cm shorter than what she claims and my Dad is roughly 2 cm shorter than what he claims. It sounds sort of like a lot but I think it's true.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 22/Jun/16
Rob are you showing signs of age face wise now your heading towards your early 40's or do you still look the same as you did in your late 20's early 30's i have seen your early youtube videos and your later youtube videos you look very much the same as you did in the late 2000's you haven't aged one bit besides the 40's are the new 30's that means the 40's are not as old are they were 30 years ago middle age starts at 55 instead of 45 old age starts at 75 instead of 65 is this true that means your still very much a young man you will be young for another 15 years you have a long way too go before your hit middle age.
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Editor Rob: I think I have aged yes, how well or bad I don't know?

here is a photo of me from one of my first conventions, and from a recent convention, so it's 11 years apart: 2005 (it was either May or October) vs 2016.

I think you can see I didn't have much grey hair in 2005, but now, there is more grey in my stubbly beard and a bit more grey in the hair now...it will be interesting to see how I age through 40's, but one thing I won't be buying is Grecian 2000.
truth said on 22/Jun/16
@Dmax I see what you mean and I fully agree, I also do not think average is 5'11 to 6'0 for young white people, not to mention others, it is just among some taller white ethnic groups. For the overall USA population it is as a fact still 175-176cm and 178 cm to 179cm for white guys ( 178.8cm for young white men of European origin).
Ice said on 22/Jun/16
@ Saqib such a growth spurt is very unlikeley to accure and Ive never experienced that a guy grew like that .
the Slav said on 22/Jun/16
@Rob
Any tips from Big G to keep your morning height throughout the day?
Editor Rob: yes.

Wake up late, carry and drink water regularly 100ml every 20 minutes, take 1 capsule of glucosamine sulphate, hire a gurney to get wheeled about and stay out of sunlight as much as possible.
Jakob said on 22/Jun/16
Thanks rob for answering. I'm in my mid 20s, so I doubt I have degradation of my spine, I guess I'm just one of those people who loses less. I'm fairly tall though at about 6ft 3, it seems that most guys my height lose more like almost an inch. Also my younger brother is growing taller than me so even in the morning I can't match him! Oh well :) Cheers Rob
MDV said on 22/Jun/16
Hi Rob, if you now have the possibility to choose your own height, how tall do you want to be ?
Editor Rob: I've mentioned it before, but I think for this site 6ft would make it easier for getting photos.
Dmax said on 21/Jun/16
Also yeah it is true men are having a trend now...well in my perspective of growing pass the ages of 18 where I heard most teens stop at back in the days. One of my friend who was 5'8.5 grew to like 5'9.5 or 5'10 at age 18-19 another one grew to 6'5 or 6'6 at age 20 and even myself grew from age 17-20 so far from 5'5 to 5'7
Dmax said on 21/Jun/16
So your saying if they had a new height statistics or should I say a more up to date one that measured the average height of the male population they would just classify 6'3 as just tall and 5'10 as below average?I agree for the most part with some of what Wipeout said but the ranges he gave are a bit off to me.
Ice said on 21/Jun/16
@ Strong 5'9

I have a rather small head (I think 22 cm in leangth) and my posture is pretty normal to excellent at times .
truth said on 21/Jun/16
@CS My parents are almost the same age! (mom 57, dad 58). How old are you CS ( I am 23 btw)? They both lost roughly 1 cm and 2 cm though.
Strong 5ft9 said on 21/Jun/16
Hey Rob, is under 5 ft kind of rare for a woman? My sister is now 16 years old and she is now 4'10 5/8 (148.9 cm) in the evening. Is that a bit rare?
CS said on 21/Jun/16
Rob, both of my parents are in their mid to late 50s (56 and 57). How much height would you say each of them has lost? I think both have them have lost more height than they'd like to admit.
Editor Rob: you might expect near 1cm for your Dad and your Mother possibly a bit more than 1cm.
Pitch_Fork said on 21/Jun/16
Dmax, dude, Wipeout's right

I'm a 20 y/o Ukrainian man who stands at 5'7.5'', I'm short and I can definitely tell you almost the same thing. I wouldn't say true 5'10 is under average height - it's more like the lowest height in average height range among youngsters.
But there's ridiculous number of guys over 6 ft tall nowadays and really a lot of chicks in the 5'9 range among students.
Among this year high school graduates there are even more of them.
Keep in mind: we are both talking about young people who are about 16-23 y/o.
Strong 5ft9 said on 21/Jun/16
@Ice May i ask. do you have a huge head or a large eye range or you tend to slouch alot, maybe that could be the reason why you don't get so much recognition for your height?
Strong 5ft9 said on 21/Jun/16
@chevy Anybody that is 6ft 2 or taller, would be considered too tall for me imo. So you're in the too tall category. But then again, it always depends on the audience. Freak (no offense, just saying as an exaggeration) would be like 6ft 7 or taller imo. Overall, i've seen like 100 different people who could be 6ft 4 versus over thousands of people i've seen so far in my guess, so it can be kind of rare but it's not as rare as finding legitimate 7 footers. It still could be considered as a common tall guy height, i guess. If you want to see what a 6ft 4 guy looks like next to Rob. Go to here Click Here and put down your height and click the ones that has an R or a J (or both) beside it. You'll definitely notice that an 8" difference can be pretty friggin huge difference lol.
french guy said on 21/Jun/16
Finn said on 20/Jun/16
All these people claiming that 6'4 is not desirable yet they'd probably take it anyday. Don't state that to make yourself feel better. Instead just be happy for what you are. There's absolutely no reason you should feel self conscious about your height. There is NO good or bad height if you're in the standard range - that is a fact. I'm tall (187cm and probably going to end up around 191) and I don't care about it. The sport I do is beneficial for bigger men so that's the only reason I somewhat care. I never understood this celebrity height thing. I've just stumbled on this website somehow. Why does it matter how tall a celebrity is? An athlete in a sport that you compete in is understandable as it's good to check where you fit in with a situation where height matters. Anyway my height doesn't bother me, sure I get compliments but everyone gets some form of compliment. Just stop with this petty claims of "5'8 is too short" and "6'4 is too tall" as all you're doing is making other people who are probably self-conscious feel worse by placing yourself up on a pedestal through shaming their height. You don't need reassurance, there is no ideal height, short and tall people all have their pros and cons.

i 'm an engineern, no one make me compliments for earning more money and being socially superior.
truth said on 21/Jun/16
@Sammy Derrick But at least do not worry man. 5'8.5 is a bit shorter than average but not exactly a standout height or anything like that. If you are really that insecure, just wear some 4 cm shoes and you will give off an average height 178 cm impression.
truth said on 21/Jun/16
@Dmax I think many of the things he wrote are pretty legit imo. People are getting taller and in the USA average height can be 5'10.5-6'0.5 in certain EU origin demographic groups but for overall population if you count the older male shrunk population average is still at least 5'9-5'9.5 or 175 - 176.5/177 cm. White males = 178 cm /5'10, Black males =176.5cm /5'9.5, Hispanic = 171 cm / 5'7.5, Asian (middle east an oriental)= 170 cm / 5'7 are height of different racial/ethnic groups in the USA so there is a significant diference depending on where you live there and which of these groups is the most common one. My guess is that he lives in a predominant rich white area with a nordic (scadinavian)/german/south slavic background.
c-mo said on 21/Jun/16
182cm after being awake for a couple of hours (like 5) is absolute perfection

I know everybody has their own ideal height but trust me on this it is really the best height to be
chevy said on 21/Jun/16
hi rob how many legit 6'4 barefoot men have you seen so far in your life so far? can you show me a picture of a legit 6'4 barefoot man?
Dmax said on 20/Jun/16
Wipeout said on 20/Jun/16
Funny how some of you still think 5'9 is average height in modern industrial world. Haha! No way, average ht is 5'10.5 easily and in some places over 6 ft. You are thinking of the 1960s east coast America when 5'9 was average. It's 2016 now and 5'8 is definitely short, and 5'10 is the new 5'8. I should know. I am 5'9.5 a couple hours after waking and I'm shorter than at least two-thirds of the men here in a city north of Los Angeles. Sometimes I am shorter than 8 out of 10 and almost half the women. Trust me, I have nothing to sell anyone. People are getting much taller in the past 15-20 yrs. It's ridiculous to keep looking at studies from the 90s and early 2000s.

TODAY

Very Short: Under 5'6
Short: 5'6-5'8
Below Avg: 5'9-5'10
AVERAGE: 5'11-6'
Above Avg: 6'1-6'2
Tall: 6'3-6'5
Very Tall: Over 6'5

You can really see that this guy on here is trolling lol
ly said on 20/Jun/16
Rob would you say 6ft4 is very tall even in netherlands.I dont think the average is really 6ft1 there after reading some studies, for example self reported heights etc.
I do belive somewhere between 5ft11 and 6ft though.Therefore 6ft4 being a bit more than 4 inches over average.Would it classify as very tall though?
Thanks
Editor Rob: 6ft 4 is still tall in any country, even netherlands...it might not be 'very', but certainly will be rather tall.
Ice said on 20/Jun/16
@truth Im a legit 6'2" (I grew from 6'1.75" out of bed to 6'2.5"out of bed over last year )
CS said on 20/Jun/16
@Johan that's pretty accurate. I mean if we look at the U.S. where the average man is 5'9-5'10 then 5'11-6'0 is tallish and 6'0-6'1 would definitely be tall. I never gave much thought to it working the other way around in other words going down the short side but I suppose that makes sense. 5'7-5'8 would be shortish and 5'6-5'7 would definitely be short. 3 inches taller than the average (or even for each individual person, someone 3 inches taller than them) is pretty much right in the zone of feeling tall regularly out and about.

The way I see it:

2 inches taller than the average - the start of tall (tallish)
3 inches taller than the average - definite tall
6 inches taller than the average - very tall, could possibly make an argument for 5 inches over the average being the start of very tall
Leo said on 20/Jun/16
@truth
He says in general.
truth said on 20/Jun/16
@Wipeout More or less agree that for young white people in the USA/EU average is around 5'10.5. Sure, if you count the whole demographic it becomes around 5'9.5, but as a young white guy in the 5'10 range I feel pretty much dead on average and at worst in some places I feel upper short/shortish where 5'11 - 6'1 is the norm. A guy these days that gets described as "tall" is always at least around 6'2+. 5'11-6'0.5 is more common above average height, the same as 5'9-5'10.5 in the 1950s.
Aaron 183cm said on 20/Jun/16
@mr mr

When I was 17-18 I always believed I was 6'1.5", because that's what I measured barefoot in gym class. In reality I was probably more like 5'11.5" and the markings on the measuring wall were inflated by 2 inches.

I felt solid tall in HS because there were a lot of hispanics, so I never questioned the 6'1.5" measurement. I always claimed 6'1" and people believed me. Only at age 19 did I measure myself with the aerosol method and was disappointed to only be 5'11.75". By age 21 I grew to a solid 6ft/183cm. I've never been able to get a 6'1.5" barefoot measurement under any circumstance. My max morning height is 6'0.8".

A 5 inch discrepancy is just insane, though. Go with the aerosol method when in doubt.
mr mr said on 20/Jun/16
@wipeout I definitely agree. These online sjw's rely solely on the statistics, thats just a number on a piece of paper, reality is different. Majority of men average nothing less than 5'11 here. I am around your height, I wake at nearly 180cm so I am 5'9 like you and 5 out of 10 women I pass on the street are taller than I am, 4 shorter and 1 my height.

People just dont wanna accept that people are getting taller though, some people are comfy with the statistics though so fair play.
Johan said on 20/Jun/16
Again look at the average 5'10" guy.

He will view 5'8" as shortish and 6ft as tallish.

5'7" to him will be short and 6'1" tall.

I agree completely with 179cm, there are different zones of "tallness". A decent 6ft guy will look very similar to a 6'1"-6'2" guy for shorter folks. Once you clear 6ft 2 though people will notice but only start really staring once your over 6ft 4.

The problem we have in society is everyone or almost everyone adds 3-4 cm to their height. Its a strange thing I have been noticing since the early 00's. It used to be 1 inch people would be off which is only 2.54cm. Nowadays 3-5cm is quite common.
Finn said on 20/Jun/16
All these people claiming that 6'4 is not desirable yet they'd probably take it anyday. Don't state that to make yourself feel better. Instead just be happy for what you are. There's absolutely no reason you should feel self conscious about your height. There is NO good or bad height if you're in the standard range - that is a fact. I'm tall (187cm and probably going to end up around 191) and I don't care about it. The sport I do is beneficial for bigger men so that's the only reason I somewhat care. I never understood this celebrity height thing. I've just stumbled on this website somehow. Why does it matter how tall a celebrity is? An athlete in a sport that you compete in is understandable as it's good to check where you fit in with a situation where height matters. Anyway my height doesn't bother me, sure I get compliments but everyone gets some form of compliment. Just stop with this petty claims of "5'8 is too short" and "6'4 is too tall" as all you're doing is making other people who are probably self-conscious feel worse by placing yourself up on a pedestal through shaming their height. You don't need reassurance, there is no ideal height, short and tall people all have their pros and cons.
Wipeout said on 20/Jun/16
Funny how some of you still think 5'9 is average height in modern industrial world. Haha! No way, average ht is 5'10.5 easily and in some places over 6 ft. You are thinking of the 1960s east coast America when 5'9 was average. It's 2016 now and 5'8 is definitely short, and 5'10 is the new 5'8. I should know. I am 5'9.5 a couple hours after waking and I'm shorter than at least two-thirds of the men here in a city north of Los Angeles. Sometimes I am shorter than 8 out of 10 and almost half the women. Trust me, I have nothing to sell anyone. People are getting much taller in the past 15-20 yrs. It's ridiculous to keep looking at studies from the 90s and early 2000s.

TODAY

Very Short: Under 5'6
Short: 5'6-5'8
Below Avg: 5'9-5'10
AVERAGE: 5'11-6'
Above Avg: 6'1-6'2
Tall: 6'3-6'5
Very Tall: Over 6'5
MD said on 20/Jun/16
@Rob,

Never asked about shoes before, mostly because I never cared. But, I bought some Adidas Men's Neo Baselines the other day, and they are the shortest I've ever felt in shoes. How much lift does this shoe give? I felt like I was practically barefoot. lol
Editor Rob: those type look 0.6ish range...but how much they compress is another matter.
Jakob said on 19/Jun/16
Hey Mr Rob, I had never been especially interested in height before, but I found the innacuracies in sports bios annoying so I stumbled on your site a couple years ago, it's great fun! Thing is, i was wondering if it is uncommon to lose only half an inch from waking to sleeping; I've measured myself with both a Manual and digital stadometer and even after exercising with a pretty good workout for 90 minutes at night, I only lost about half an inch even though I have a fairly long upper body.
Editor Rob: it's not so uncommon, but it is nearer the lower range of height variation...the average still seems to be nearer 0.75 inch, with I believe a majority anywhere from 0.5-1. Above/below that may be more uncommon.

If you are older the discs might lose ability to retain water so your morning-evening height decreases when you get older.
Ice said on 19/Jun/16
@ Saqib youre comment takes the cake for the most delusional statement that I have ever read on this site . And Ive seen a lot . To say that guys who are 6'5" are more likeley to be virgins than guys who are like 6 ' 0 because of THEIR HEIGHT is just so pathetic lol . Plenty of women , and I mean plenty , would say that 6'5" is better for a guy than 6'0 , because it is actually tall , not some " so - so one could argue if its tall or not" tall like 6'0 is . Women like tall guys , thats a fact , and yes , 6'5 is actually unarguably tall and not many would considere it freak status / too tall .
Ice said on 19/Jun/16
I shrink 2.5 cm throughout the day . It sucks .
plus said on 19/Jun/16
@Rob The distance from floor to belly botton is 105 cm in my case for 176 cm tall. I would like to know what is the average in people depending on height. I think I also appear taller because my legs are taller than average
Editor Rob: I am not sure what the average would be, a belly button height is something I haven't really paid much attention too.
truth said on 19/Jun/16
@Leo 100% Depends on where you live.
truth said on 19/Jun/16
@Sammy Derrick Jesus christ, stop it with this Buzzfeed type "height feminism" -.-
mr mr said on 19/Jun/16
How many of you people here are certain of your height?

I always thought I was 5'11 because thats what I was led to believe at a physical checkup, however I went to another physical recently and found out im barely 5'6.

It was quite a shock tbh but it just goes to show that even medical people see short as being a negative as my doctor lied to me about my height.
Leo said on 19/Jun/16
My brother is a strong 6'1.25" and he says: "For me, 5'6 isn't short"
Guys 5'10-6'0 saying 5'8 or below is short .... Are so pathetics. Sorry, but is true.
Canson said on 18/Jun/16
@James B: agreed. I don't get why they want to be as tall as they are especially when they aren't playing pro sports. The height does nothing really. It's a wonder why certain groups (6'3-6'4 guys) claim 6'5 while others 6'5 claim 6'5. They know where the good height turns bad
Amaze said on 18/Jun/16
@truth 5 ft 8 is not short for a guy.
Its just below average


Lol why the hell do people qanna be mega tall for, you get inonvenience, doors legrooms planes harder getting clothes back problems, if you wanna be tall 6 to 6 ft 2 is perfect, even 6'3 is good. Over 6'4 is pushing it imo. Asking people what height theyd be, ive never heard below 6 ft 0 or 183cm or above 6'3 191cm

Out of 10 people from what im observed if i ask
5 out of 10 will pick 6 foot 0-1
3 out of 10 pick 6 foot 2(people usually going max Max while saying this)
2 will pick 6'3
Adam said on 18/Jun/16
@rob rob after 5hours I measured my self at 182.5 -182.6. At home most of the time, cooking or cleaning. Do u think I'm 6ft er? Or would u list me as a 6ft er here? Thanks for your time.
Editor Rob: as I've said in the past, it would depend on how you look with others, or in person. You might look near enough that 6ft mark, but say you had a poor posture and never stood well, you might give a 5ft 11-11.5 impression - so it's useful trying to see people in person.
grizz said on 18/Jun/16
Sammy Derrick said on 17/Jun/16
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
Have fun with those height games.

Holy crap, the 1st link got it right!
truth said on 18/Jun/16
@Grant At least where I am from

6'2 - 86th to 91th, depending on demographic
6'3 - 92nd to 98th, depending on demographic
6'4 - 96th to 99th +, depending on demographic

So that is it, those heights are definitely upper tall to start of very tall.
shorty said on 18/Jun/16
Hey rob is it possible for a person to overmeasure themselves on a stadiometer even if the equipment is accurately put together?

On the leicester stadiomete which I have I find that the tray at the bottom is kinda thick and could easily add an inch, I have the same model as you.

What do you think?
Editor Rob: that leicester model typically gives an 1/8th inch more. Since they are all made from the same moulds, it should be a similar kind of range of error...unless they have changed the mould and corrected it in the last 5 years!
Mike is 6'2 said on 18/Jun/16
@Canary

Very much agree with this.Nobody is going to pull out a tape measure on the spot when you tell them your height.
chevy said on 18/Jun/16
hi rob is 6'4 barefoot really tall for men of all ethnicities?
Editor Rob: in any culture it is still rather tall.
179cm said on 17/Jun/16
Ice said on 16/Jun/16
So today a woman at work (about 5'3") told me that I was the same height as my collegue who is 6'0 , and that my other colleugue who is 6'1.5" is taller than me . There it goes to tell you how a legit 6'2 guy comes across . Not impressive at all .

6 feet plus is a 'tall guy'. So you come across as a tall guy (6'0-6'2") basically. At 6'3"-4" you'd start giving a 'very tall' impression. That being said, that woman clearly isn't a good judge of height. You can't somehow be shorter or the same height as somebody when you're actually taller than them.

That should tell you something actually. There are some women who say that they only want a tall guy but realistically they wouldn't even spot the difference between 6'0" and 6'2".
Sammy Derrick said on 17/Jun/16
Click Here
Please guys visit the link above.A lot of you will find something to identify with.I personally think that I can relate the most with Brett aka Number 4.I'm 5'8.5 I sometimes I feel average other times I feel like a midget.
@Editor Rob, What do you think of the article and how do you think height impacts dating?
Editor Rob: it really will vary amongst the population, from those who view it as a big factor, to people who simply don't bother or think about height much.

For me, I think if you limit by factors like height, you might miss out on great humans.
Sammy Derrick said on 17/Jun/16
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
Have fun with those height games.
Grant said on 17/Jun/16
Rob what would you say the percentile of men that are 6'2" 6'3" and 6'4" respectively
Johan said on 17/Jun/16
Saqib said on 16/Jun/16
Only in countries like Netherlands and denmark is where 6ft would be considered average or short but then again your opinion is irrelevant because your country is the only giant country of the world whearas the rest of the world is normal.

5ft 11 is considered average in both those countries you mentioned. 6ft is upper average so not even remotely short.

I'm no expert but yes you can have multiple growth spurts. The biggest one I ever saw was from middle school. I had a friend there who was 175 cm when we were 16 yrs old and when I saw him 3 yrs later he was 189 cm at least. He said he was 193 cm but I thought less at the time. Was very strange as I used to look down on him and then had to look up haha.
Mathew Robinson (190 cm) said on 17/Jun/16
Saqib said on 16/Jun/16

@ice in the rest of the world a 6'5-6'7 guy is very likely to end up a virgin for a long period of time because no woman would want to date a dinosaur.

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That statement is delusional. Every bit as (if not slightly more) out of touch with realty as saying a guy who is 5'10" - 6'0" would remain a virgin for a long time because of their height.
James B said on 17/Jun/16
Rob do you agree that a lot of posters on this thread don't understand the problems that being exceptionally can give you later in life?. Just look at clint eastwood and I think he's actually lucky to have made it to 86 and not have more serious issues.
Editor Rob: there's a lot of studies out there that you can extract information from to suit an agenda, but from what I've read there does seem to be some problems tall or shorter people might have an increased risk for.
James B said on 17/Jun/16
I don't understand why you guys on here want to be so tall. being over 6ft does not come without problems.
Sully said on 17/Jun/16
Hey Rob , I'm 175 cm in the morning and 173 cm in the evening. Is it ok for me to claim 5'9"?
Editor Rob: I personally wouldn't, because you fall closer to 5ft 8 at your low mark.
Enzo said on 17/Jun/16
Rob after 5 hours awake at home I measured my self at 182.5 on the dot. Would u say I'm 6ft. Thank you.
Editor Rob: I'd say it is not wrong to claim about 6ft.
truth said on 17/Jun/16
@Strong5'9 The label "weak six footer" only applies to guys who are near 6'0 to begin with or roughly 181-182cm / 5'11.5- 5'11.75" tall (like my dad in his 20s-40s, now he is a strong 5'11, between 5'11 and 5'11.25 at 58).
truth said on 17/Jun/16
But most short people (5'8 and below) really cannot tell how tall are people around them.
truth said on 17/Jun/16
@Ice If she said that then you must be "only" 6'0 lol. But yeah, I had a 5'8 guy claim to be my height ( I am a very solid 5'10, 5'11 morning) and I was looking down in equal footwear on him so it is not always the case. I have been guessed anything from 5'9 to 6'0 though.
Dmax said on 16/Jun/16
@c-mo your welcome bro and ya that's true lol kinda wasn't paying full attention when posting
nick said on 16/Jun/16
Hey rob if my eye level is 5ft 6 how tall am I ?
Editor Rob: you are likely in the 5ft 10.5-10.75, but there is a chance you could be near 5ft 11 too.
the Slav said on 16/Jun/16
@Rob
Im 185 cm straight out of bed and 182.6 cm at my absolute lowest. What should I claim?
Editor Rob: calling yourself 183 I think is fine.
Canary said on 16/Jun/16
I don't understand some of you guys. FE, a guy's height ranges from 180 to 182. He frets about what height to claim! Who cares? Pick a height and stick with it. It could be 180, 181, 182, or any height in that range. IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER! It's not a crime if you claim your highest measurement. It's not a sin if you claim your lowest measurement. On a life-problem scale from 1 to 100, with 1 being no life-problem, this concern rates a 5. I add four points because you might have a problem if you worry about what height to claim.
5'10ish guy said on 16/Jun/16
Hey Rob I have a question for you

As a teenager I played Football a hell of a lot and was most of the time physically active, do you think too much of that can stunt growth?

I also used to sleep a good 8 hours as well and wondered if that can cause the growth plates to fuse earlier than they should because in comparison to most people I appear shorter the majority of the time, my iseam is only 29' thats really short for a guy of my height, anyway I hope you can answer my question.

Thanks
Editor Rob: no, I don't think playing football would have a negative effect...in fact I'd say it is beneficial to do sports like that when a youngster.
Verba said on 16/Jun/16
Hello Rob!

You usually say that you should measure yourself after about 5 hours of walking. Do you litteraly mean 5 hours of walking or just being in a vertical position for 5 hours?

So I went to a concert 2 weeks ago. I took the train at ~5pm to meet with my sister (because neither of us has a car or DL). The concert started at 8pm so we deciced to eat somewhere before. I came back home at ~1:30am and measured myself 187,0-186,9cm after a bit more than 7 hours of standing. Kinda suprised how little I shrank considering that I'm merely 189,0cm straight out of bed. Is this what you meant by 5 hours of walking?
Editor Rob: being up and about vertical, whether walking or standing or even sitting at times, your back is under stress, so by about 5-6 hours you are closer to your lower height than your tallest height.
truth said on 16/Jun/16
@Ice I see what you are saying and I mostly agree. I think you are confused only and mostly with the wording and definitions here - 6'1 to 6'2 is still NOT a stand out height and it blends in just fine. BUT it is definitely more on the tall side than average height (5'8 to 6'0 range), hence the wording TALL (taller than average). If you want to stand out (be VERY TALL), then you must be at least 190-191 cm or 6'3 tall and more ( in the top 5 % of the male population in Europe). I agree also that the cut off for comfortable height is around 2 m or 6'7, since that is the average door frame where I am from. To me that height and heights like 6'5 and 6'6 are not ideal, but hey, different strokes for different folks. You consider 6'7 ideal, while I would much much rather prefer to be your height (6'1 or 6'2) as it is personally my ideal height.
Ice said on 16/Jun/16
So today a woman at work (about 5'3") told me that I was the same height as my collegue who is 6'0 , and that my other colleugue who is 6'1.5" is taller than me . There it goes to tell you how a legit 6'2 guy comes across . Not impressive at all .
Saqib said on 16/Jun/16
Only in countries like Netherlands and denmark is where 6ft would be considered average or short but then again your opinion is irrelevant because your country is the only giant country of the world whearas the rest of the world is normal.


@ice in the rest of the world a 6'5-6'7 guy is very likely to end up a virgin for a long period of time because no woman would want to date a dinosaur.



AND GUYS I AM REPEATING THE QUESTION AGAIN SINCE IT GOT IGNORED 2 TIMES BEFORE.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE 2 GROWTH SPURTS?
MY COUSIN CLAIMS TO HAVE 2. THE FIRST ONE WAS WHEN HE WAS 12 YRS OLD AND HE GREW THE MOST HEIGHT FROM 12-15 THEN FROM 15-19 HE DIDNT GROW AN INCH THEN FROM 19-21 HE GREW ANOTHER 4 INCHES. HES 6FT NOW. IS THIS POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE ELSE?
Strong 5ft9 said on 15/Jun/16
@Ice From what i see, 6 footers can be almost as common as a weak 6 footer (5'8" - 5'11") these days. So yeah, a guy who is 6ft or a little over may get complimented more than a man who is underneath 6 foot. But it always depends on the audience. My hairstylist complimented about my height, and i'm a few inches off from being 6ft. She was about 5'2" btw lol.
QuiMonTap said on 15/Jun/16
@truth

Thanks for answering; though I always play it safe and claim 185cm. Rob, anyone else, what do you guys think? 187cm, usual morning height, 185cm on the dot is my absolute low.
chevy said on 15/Jun/16
hi rob is 6'4 barefoot a rare height for men?
truth said on 15/Jun/16
Ideal preffered height for men and women.

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jean said on 15/Jun/16
the truth is my real height barefoot is 169.3 cm, i know because i have measured myself countless times in my house putting my back against a wall when nobody is near, but i use thick shoes with lifts and no one says i am short,nor anyone comments on my height. should i stop wearing lifts and tell everyone i am only 5'6.5 or i should keep wearing them, what do you think?
Jason Wentworth said on 15/Jun/16
@Mike is 6'2

I agree.
It really highlights their insecurities, people can tell that your above average/tall without having to comment on it every time they see you.
I don't understand how anyone can claim feeling short/average at 6'2" in a 5'9"-5'10" average country.
truth said on 15/Jun/16
@ Oh ok, now I understand. If he is 182.5 cm at worst instead of 183 cm, then he could claim either 183 cm or 184 cm since he measures around 183.5 cm during the day, I agree.
Aza said on 15/Jun/16
Rob

I wake up at 184.5 cms tallest first thing and most evenings my absolute low is 182.5 cms over a one week period . Can I say I'm 6ft tall? Also at 45 years could I have lost a little height?
jake said on 15/Jun/16
tall 6'1-6'3 1/4

very tall 6'3 1/2-6'5 1/4

extremely tall 6'5 1/2-6'8 3/4

GIANT 6'9+
Canary said on 15/Jun/16
@Johan: Along the same lines, the average Latina here would be the equivalent of a 5'0 Dutch woman. Their average height is around 5'2. In some parts of the Americas, younger women range from 4'8 to 5'0! That's about the size of younger Dutch women in the 1600s.
Bobby184cm said on 15/Jun/16
Rob, if a strong 6'3 person stood next to me, does he look like he "tower" over me or just taller?
Editor Rob: 2.5 inches is a noticeable amount, but really it's far from what I'd call towering. When the guy is looking over your head, that is a much bigger difference.
CS said on 15/Jun/16
@Fruit I heard that women 5'8 and up prefer a man who is 6'1. Now that was from one study but in your case it seems to be true.

It's women 5' - 5'7 that prefer a guy who is 5'11.
chevy said on 14/Jun/16
hi rob how many percent of the us populAturn is a legit 6'4 barefoot for men?
Mike is 6'2 said on 14/Jun/16
Hilarious how certain people are insecure at not being called a tall guy by every person every day. At 6'2 if a random member of public was asked to describe me 'tall' would definitely be an adjective that is used.
truth said on 14/Jun/16
@QuiMonTap You should claim to be 6'1.25" (186 cm).
shorty said on 14/Jun/16
Rob if the 5'7 mark of the tape measure comes just above your eyebrows how tall will that be?
Editor Rob: you coyuld be near to 5ft 11
truth said on 14/Jun/16
@James In countries like Turkey/Portugal/Spain/Cyprus/Bulgaria/Romania/Moldova/Ukraine tall would start at like 5'11" since the average is not more than 5'8-5'9 there.
Johan said on 14/Jun/16
Canary said on 10/Jun/16
@Johan: I think that short women are more likely to overestimate heights, others' heights and their heights, than tall women are. This is very common when girls are shorter than 5'4. BTW, would 5'4 women (21-40) be seen as short in the Netherlands? Does it depend on the region of your country? Did you know that there was a time when Dutch girls were smaller than modern Indonesian girls? They were the smallest women in Europe. How times have changed!

Yes I agree with that, short people are also more likely to believe false claims as well. I think if you mean 163 cm so almost a flat 5'4" then yes that would be considered short as it is 6cm shorter than the average woman here. I think its the equivalent of 5'2" in countries with 5'4.5" average like the US.

@French guy

You have said many times that you are a 182.5 cm + guy at low so I don't know what to say. You aren't a short guy its all in your head, you are an upper average height even here in The Netherlands. Ofc you will always see guys taller than you ranging from 6'1"-6'3" a fair lot but look down as well you will see more guys who are 5'6-5'11".

To feel short next to someone at 6' they need to be 6'3" + which is 95th percentile or something. High huh?

To get towered they need to be 6'5" + which is over the 99 th...

Be happy man you have a flexible height that stands well next to most guys.
Johan said on 14/Jun/16
Tom said on 8/Jun/16
shrink down to sometimes 183.5 or 1.83 very lowest in history ever would be 182.5 I'm generally around 6 foot and a bit around tea time what height do I claim please rob I've been trying to contact you


@Truth

Thats what Tom said. He is 182.5 at worst and as he said a little over 6 ft at tea time. So I guess you could argue he is a 6'0.25" 184 cm guy but thats the highest I could go. 183cm is also a bit over 6ft. It depends whether Tom uses Metric or Imperial.

Most drop quarter inches so imperial = 6ft claim

Metric= 183 cm or 184 cm. Depends if he is active or not and still 183 range at lunch. Time has nothing to do with it. I can measure 185 still at 11pm after 16 hrs awake on a lazy day. Normal working day = 184.5cm.
Ice said on 14/Jun/16
IMO 6'5" - 6'7" is perfect . You stand out as beeing tall and are taller than almost every other guy you meet , however youre still not a freak .
Ice said on 14/Jun/16
Im 6'2 barefoot , legitimateley . And I can assure you that nobody ever comments on my height or thinks that Im a tall guy . Also not my mother (shes 5'11.5") or even my dad , who stands only 5'8" . My height doesnt impress anyone or makes me noticable . Nobody cares . So personaly , I cant understand how people on this site think that a man of 6 foot gets noticed for beeing a tall height in any way . Im not trolling guys , its just what I experience .
Dr. Strangelove said on 13/Jun/16
I'm 5' 7. I'm definitely short. But in all honesty, it's not such a terrible height to have. At this height you're taller or as tall as most women. Only a few here and there will tower over you. And although i'm still on the short side, i do feel close to average whenever i'm in a crowd.
Guts said on 13/Jun/16
Rob, I Claim 180cm/5'11 but sometimes my height fluctuates For example:
I usually wake up at around 181cm but on others i wake up up around 181.5/182 and at night i'm around 179-180cm but i've just measured myself after a late night workout and i'm 178.5cm, is this normal?

The only explanation i can come up with is that on the days I wake up taller i've slept in a position that's better for my spine and for the 5mm i lost at night was probably due to the strain the weights put on my spine.... Or I have weak version of Ant man's superpower.
Strong 5ft9 said on 13/Jun/16
Hey Rob, i'm curious. What is the highest you can reach with your tip-toe? I'm 5'9 1/8 and i can reach up to approximately 7'6 3/4 with my tiptoe from the tip of my middle finger. My stepdad is a little over 6' and he could reach 8' and maybe a bit over. He can touch the ceiling in my exactly 8' tall room.

Note: Grab a pencil, Reach the highest you can on a wall put that pencil mark on the tip of your middle finger and measure it while using a stool.
Editor Rob: that's pretty close to matching what I checked - standing normally near 7ft 3 and nearly 7ft 6 on tip-toes.
Canary said on 13/Jun/16
@Jason: That just goes to show that many women are dishonest or "ignorant" when it comes to their heights. Some women exaggerate their heights due to their own insecurities and/or vanity, but I think they do it less than men do. Other women really don't know how tall they are, and they usually add two to four inches to their actual heights.
plus said on 13/Jun/16
@179 not using half and 3/4 inches in my opinion is ridiculous, that's why in centimetres it is the best system!!
Jason Wentworth said on 13/Jun/16
@Canary

It depends on the person, short women tend to inflate others height and tall women seem to inflate their own height, I know a quite a few 5'8" women that claim 5'10 and a 5'9" woman that claims 5'11".

@Ice

That doesn't sound like the experience of a 6'2" barefoot man, unless your friends are above average/tall as well. You don't have to tower people to be considered tall.

@Queenslander

Most people look at height on paper rather than in real life, if a person saw a legit 6'0"(barefoot) they'd quickly realize that it may not tower their male peers, but it certainly is still in the tall range.
James B said on 13/Jun/16
Queenslander said on 10/Jun/16
Most people's perceptions of 6 foot here is probably 5'10.5 barefoot. My friend was measured 6'2.5 but claims 6'4 -_- it made me realise how impressive a legit 6'2 actually looks

5'10-5'11 can look impressive too
CS said on 13/Jun/16
Amen to the people on this page saying that life is not about being tall. Obviously there are advantages to being tall but it's ridiculous to hear people who think what's important in life is to tower over people. Like someone on this page a few months back said, that thinking is delusional. Life's about who you are and what you're doing. And the way you look/carry yourself (your look, your hairstyle, your clothing, your self-confidence) is far more important than height ever will be.
John said on 13/Jun/16
Slenderman,
Of course we don't choose our height and I keep saying that height is not the most desirable thing in the world, but I have to admit that it is definiitely better to be very tall than to be very short, I think.
I am a bit taller than your father, which means to get you by your eyebrow, not exactly like a kid near you. I have got a short father (1.65) and a short brother (1.67) and a relatively tall mother (1.70) and I am now 19.
I think you don't certainly need to be any taller at all, but I think your height is a positive feature of yours, even if it has some inconvenient aspects in terms of comfort in everyday life, but it gives you a very imposing look and it is psychologically reassuring.
Ice said on 13/Jun/16
I love how a lot of guys on this site just insult me for no apperant reason lol
Fruit said on 13/Jun/16
"What has been researched - Women say 6 ft 1 , 6ft 2 are the perfect heights for a man but it turns out they mean 5 ft 11, 6ft in reality. "

Give a source for this supposed research. I'm a woman and I would consider 6'1"-6'2" the ideal male height and I mean actual 6'2". I'm 5'8" and I know the difference.

And six feet is tall, it's ridiculous people keep trying to claim it's not on here. That is noticeably tall. No, it's not towering or super rare, but small differences become more and more significant the further away from average you get and a legitimately six foot man will be taller than most people he meets on a daily basis.
gangsta said on 13/Jun/16
IMO, 6' - 6'2 is best height range for a guy. Adding 2 inches shorter and taller would give us the range of all good heights (5'10 - 6'4) a guy to be. Anything above and below that may lead for a person to feel insecure about height.
James said on 12/Jun/16
I would say 6 ft 1 is the "ideal" height for men. More broadly, anywhere from 6 ft to 6 ft 2 is the ideal height for men.
James said on 12/Jun/16
Most Western countries:

6 ft 0.5 in= tall

6 ft 0 in= also tall

5 ft 11.75 in= not tall
James said on 12/Jun/16
@c-mo Your comment is too general. Not all countries have the same average height. In Spain you don't have to be 6 ft 1 to be considered a "legit tall". Go to Spain and try to say 184 cm is not a legit tall. People would say you are crazy!
Chevy said on 12/Jun/16
hi rob is 6'5.5 barefoot too tall for men?is it a giant height for men?
Editor Rob: many men that height might love most aspects of being very tall. I wouldn't call it a giant height, but it's in that very tall range.
Ice said on 11/Jun/16
Someone , please tell me what about 6'0 is better than lets say 6'2 ? Are those 2 inches going to add one a sudden gigantic burden in Areas of Cars , public transportation and clothing ? Or , are women going to turn down a man of 6'2 for a man of 6'0 if everything else would be identical ? IMO this "6'0 is ideal" is just comming from guys who actually are that height or are short and is just a coping mechanism for not really beeing tall , or actually believing this 6'0 is perfect thing through talking themselves into it .
James B said on 11/Jun/16
If the average in the UK/US is 5'9 then I think we can all agree that 5'11 range is tall and average amongst the young crowd.

The young population does count as the whole of the UK
truth said on 11/Jun/16
@c-mo I will tell how I came to that conclusion: First, take the lowest measured height for young EU males (Turkey: 173.6 cm, Portugal is second close at 173.9 cm) and the tallest (both Bosnia&Herzegovina and the Netherlands at roughly 183.8-183.9 cm), add them up and divide it by two. You will get roughly 178.7 cm to 178.8 cm. Add to the fact that we loose on average around 2 cm (give or take a centimetre, some only 1 cm, some like 3 cm) and that the measurements were done not at the lowest measured height but middle height measurements (your midday at 12 am if you will) so take away 1 cm and you will get 177.8 cm, which corresponds exactly to a solid 5'10".

The problem with your link is that a lot of the measurements are fairly outdated from 2008: A few examples are 180.9 cm for Serbia (newest study in 2012 for 18-30 y.o. show 182.0 cm), Finland 178.1 cm ( new study for men under 25 y.o. from 2010 shows 180.7 cm), Austria (179 cm is the figure for the overral male population, a study for 20-24 y.o. males from 2006 show 180.0 cm as the average height), Poland (it is not 178.3cm, but 178.7 cm from a 2010 study for 18 y.o.) and so on...

I think it is best to check out at least a few pediatric studies with a good number of correspondents (at least 100-500, best is around 1000-2000) and of course that they are published, papers not some guy that puts some random numbers on the internet so some guys can take it for granted.
Sully said on 11/Jun/16
I think people have horrible perceptions of whats short for men. I think that :
Below 5'7" (short)
5'8" - 5'10" ( average)
5'11" and over is tall
truth said on 11/Jun/16
@Johan No he should not lol. If he is in the morning 185 cm and in the evening 183 cm, then he must claim the average out of the 2, which is roughly about 184 cm or 6'0.5" (the most likely height he would get measured at 9 am to 1 pm). No need to downgrade yourself and others.
QuiMonTap said on 11/Jun/16
Hey guys. I'm unsure about what height to claim. I once measured 1.88m (6'2) after a great night's sleep (12+ hours), immediately after waking up. But I usually measure 1.87m in the morning. My lowest is 185cm on the dot. What should I say my height is? Thanks in advance.
179cm said on 11/Jun/16
roy said on 5/Jun/16
I am 5'9 1/2 at my low and throughout most of the day. However if I am honest and tell people I'm 5'9 1/2 they say never use half inches its insecure. Should I downgrade to 5'9 or upgrade to 5'10? Anyone else have this issue of being on the hump?

No point in somebody wishing they were just a bit taller if they are selling themselves short anyway. If you're 5'9" 1/2 minimum then I think it's fine to just round to 5'10".
Mathew Robinson (190 cm) said on 10/Jun/16
179cm said on 9/Jun/16
I bet these trolls saying things like "6 feet is not tall enough" are really about 5'3" themselves.

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6'0" is a fine height for an adult man. I think 6'1" - 6'4" range is even better, but that's a personal preference. 6'0" is pretty good. Really height isn't that important anyways. Life is about much more than how many inches off the ground the top of your head is. You could be a 4'9" adult man and love the life you live, it's better than being like 6'2" or 6'3" but depressed... Trust me I've been there in the past!
Queenslander said on 10/Jun/16
Most people's perceptions of 6 foot here is probably 5'10.5 barefoot. My friend was measured 6'2.5 but claims 6'4 -_- it made me realise how impressive a legit 6'2 actually looks
Canary said on 10/Jun/16
@Johan: I think that short women are more likely to overestimate heights, others' heights and their heights, than tall women are. This is very common when girls are shorter than 5'4. BTW, would 5'4 women (21-40) be seen as short in the Netherlands? Does it depend on the region of your country? Did you know that there was a time when Dutch girls were smaller than modern Indonesian girls? They were the smallest women in Europe. How times have changed!
dan said on 10/Jun/16
Cmo I think the average for men 20-44 years old is 5'9.5/5'9.75 so you could say 6'0 is equivalent to 5'7.75. so how about under 5'8 is short and 6'0 is tall, that's two and bit either side of the average
truth said on 10/Jun/16
While 6'0 can be arguably tall and it is solidly still on the taller side, it is nothing to write home about these days in Europe at least. The new 6'0 from the 1950s is now 6'2 and the new 5'8 is 5'10. Also yes height is not everything but come on, ask anyone under 6'0 if they want to be over 6'0, my guess is the majority will say yes.
the Slav said on 10/Jun/16
Some of you guys here are nuts.
6'5 is taller than 99.9 % of all men. Its extremely tall
Mark said on 10/Jun/16
I'm currently 17 and I'm between 5'8" and 5'9". I do measure slightly over 5'9" in the morning.

Rob, could boys grow slightly after 18? If so, what height do you think I would be by just an estimate guess.
Editor Rob: on average there is a little bit of growth after 18, but really we are not talking like an inch average. Some may well gain that or more from 18-21, while a majority basically are finished at 18.
french guy said on 10/Jun/16
Johan said on 9/Jun/16
I wonder sometimes where people live here. 6 foot 5 the most desirable height for women?? Tell that to my brother who got rejected many times for being too tall. His current gf is 5 ft 11 not surprising at all.

We are talking about a legit guy who is 6'6" in shoes right? Just making sure what with all the morning claims with shoes going around.

There are some women who find very tall guys more attractive but from my observations that stops around 6'4". The guys that women think are 6ft 6.

What has been researched - Women say 6 ft 1 , 6ft 2 are the perfect heights for a man but it turns out they mean 5 ft 11, 6ft in reality.

This isn't surprising as the average woman in many countries isn't even over 5ft 5.

To my fellow Dutchman our women were measured at 5ft 6 .5 so no not 5'7"- 5'9" average.

If you are anywhere between 5 ft 11 - 6ft 4 you are in the blessed area of height. Which is a big variation but then not all women are short, average or tall. 6ft 2 sits almost right in the middle which is why I think its the perfect height objectively.



for women, i don't know, but being 6'5" boost your confidence
Overall, being taller makes you more confident than being shorter: when everyone is taller than me, i hate it
Ice said on 10/Jun/16
Im a legit 6'2" (189.5 cm out of bed) and no one ever referrs to me as "tall" or "the tall guy" . All people around me see my height as pretty normal / average and no one cares about my height . No one consideres me as beeing tall , nor do I ever get comments about my height , ever . So much for all of the 6 foot guys feeling tall or beeing considered as "that tall guy" by others lol .
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 10/Jun/16
Rob when you were in your 20's did you consider the 40's too be old when you were in your 30's the 40's was not as old as you think the 40's is younger than you think since your almost in your 40's is it really the 40's are the new 30's.

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Editor Rob: when 20, 40 does seem a long time away...but now at 40, I realise who quick the years go by, which is why filling your days with different activities and trying new experiences can help slow the passage of time.
Mike is 6'2 said on 10/Jun/16
@Ice you seem to be really delusional and think life is simply about towering the most people possible. I bet slenderman goes through hardships everyday and wishes he was shorter. Honestly I think 6'0.5 is the perfect height overall for a man in terms of quality of life and dating. People on here who disagree have severe height neurosis and think life is all about being as tall as possible.
the Slav said on 10/Jun/16
Slenderman, be proud of your height. Being 1 meter tall or your height is a lot cooler and more special than being average range. Walk tall and proud, my slavic brother :)
truth said on 10/Jun/16
@c-mo I agree. Average range is roughly 172 - 173 cm to 183 - 184 cm
Kourosh said on 10/Jun/16
@plus that would be great

this is me

My height after 9 hours of sleep 178 cm or 178 cm little over

My height after 6 or 7 hours of sleep is 177.5 to 177.8 cm

My Evening afternoon height is 176.5 cm

Evening and night height is at 176 cm to be exact take or add a millimeter. (175.9 cm or 176.1 cm)
Ice said on 10/Jun/16
I agree that a legit 6'5 guy can look a bit stretched .
MrTBlack said on 10/Jun/16
Rob

I'd say 3" or more is towering over someone what do you think? Seems reasonable since most degrees of short, average, tall, very tall are within a 3" range.
Editor Rob: you could be 6ft and somebody is 4% taller than you...or about 3 inches, so it's not for me what I'd call towering.

Visually once you get somebody's eyelevel above their head it becomes much more of a noticeable difference.
c-mo said on 9/Jun/16
@Dmax thank you very much for your post :)

but you say :

"you have men out there that is 5'3,5'5,5'9 they complain yes but guess what? They LIVED WITH IT and girls are STILL ATTRACTED TO THEM and you know what else? Their height is normal "

you can not put 5'9 in the same category with 5'3/5'5 bro wtf xD 5'9 is a completely different world from 5'3 or 5'5

one of my friends is 5'3-5'4 and I am 5'9.5 so I know what I am talking about and it is not comparable in any way
James B said on 9/Jun/16
I am in the 5'7.5-5'8 range and my brother is not as tall he makes himself out to be since he claims "6'1" yet recently I discovered he is 2.5-3 inches taller than me which would make him 5'10.5.

More to the point he can look quite towering at times and I think people underestimate how tall the 5'10-5'11 range is.
James B said on 9/Jun/16
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jun/16
A legit 6'5, 6'6 in shoes could never be an ideal height for a guy. Any height where in shoes you're going to be scraping the door frame on some doors is too tall.
I think a lot of people underestimate how tall a height in 195-200 cm range really is barefoot. Guys who are are around 195 tower most of their contemporaries in most fields, look at TIm Robbins in film and Ibrahimovic in football. I was watching the tennis the other day and the 6'5 tennis player Berdych stepped indoor for a bit and on camera walking with normal people he looked giraffe-like because he's skinny. Too tall to be ideal. Even a legit 6'4 can look too "stretched" if you've not got a good build.



10 years back In college I knew a guy who i think was around 6'3 1/2 but he claimed "6'5". Sure he looked quite impressive in stature but people like him give true 6'5ers a bad name.
plus said on 9/Jun/16
@James in the street taking 100 males passing by I think it would be 4 out of 100, in the University Campus I don't know but it would be over that figure of course.
plus said on 9/Jun/16
@c-mo @kourosh it would be interesting to be measured the three of us and compare our heights. Looking at the data, very similar. I am exactly 176 cm tall. I would like to add Rooney to the bunch too and take a picture of the 4 of us. There could be surprises too
c-mo said on 9/Jun/16
btw. regarding if 6'0 is tall or not

6'0 is above average / weak tall

just the same way how 5'8 is below average / weak short

6'1 + = "legit tall"

5'7 - = "legit short"
Ice said on 9/Jun/16
@Slenderman be happy about youre height .seriously , youre blessed . I wouldnt mind beeing 215 cm at all . It would be great for me . IMO youve had much more luck on the height area than all of these 6 foot average joes on this site .
Ice said on 9/Jun/16
Id say giant range begins at 6'7" , freak range at 7'3" .
179cm said on 9/Jun/16
I bet these trolls saying things like "6 feet is not tall enough" are really about 5'3" themselves.
Johan said on 9/Jun/16
@Tom

You measure pretty much the same as Alex 6'0" from User heights so I would just claim 6ft. or 183cm.
Johan said on 9/Jun/16
I wonder sometimes where people live here. 6 foot 5 the most desirable height for women?? Tell that to my brother who got rejected many times for being too tall. His current gf is 5 ft 11 not surprising at all.

We are talking about a legit guy who is 6'6" in shoes right? Just making sure what with all the morning claims with shoes going around.

There are some women who find very tall guys more attractive but from my observations that stops around 6'4". The guys that women think are 6ft 6.

What has been researched - Women say 6 ft 1 , 6ft 2 are the perfect heights for a man but it turns out they mean 5 ft 11, 6ft in reality.

This isn't surprising as the average woman in many countries isn't even over 5ft 5.

To my fellow Dutchman our women were measured at 5ft 6 .5 so no not 5'7"- 5'9" average.

If you are anywhere between 5 ft 11 - 6ft 4 you are in the blessed area of height. Which is a big variation but then not all women are short, average or tall. 6ft 2 sits almost right in the middle which is why I think its the perfect height objectively.
Ice said on 9/Jun/16
@rew some short guys might want to be youre height , but youre height still isnt impressive ..
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jun/16
A legit 6'5, 6'6 in shoes could never be an ideal height for a guy. Any height where in shoes you're going to be scraping the door frame on some doors is too tall.
I think a lot of people underestimate how tall a height in 195-200 cm range really is barefoot. Guys who are are around 195 tower most of their contemporaries in most fields, look at TIm Robbins in film and Ibrahimovic in football. I was watching the tennis the other day and the 6'5 tennis player Berdych stepped indoor for a bit and on camera walking with normal people he looked giraffe-like because he's skinny. Too tall to be ideal. Even a legit 6'4 can look too "stretched" if you've not got a good build.
Dmax said on 9/Jun/16
@c-mo I agree with you your the most sensible post I have seen here in a while.....you guys literally have a problem with yourself saying your 6'0+ and still feeling too short. Also a 6'0 guy seeing a genie and wanna wish for more height to be taller? LOL I mean wtf is wrong with you guys I literally was wondering if a lot of drunk guys are on here sometimes.6'0 is the start of tall range and a lot of men don't get to reach this height....you have men out there that is 5'3,5'5,5'9 they complain yes but guess what? They LIVED WITH IT and girls are STILL ATTRACTED TO THEM and you know what else? Their height is normal nobody staring them down or anything and I am convinced some of you on here that wants to be taller than 6'0 it is definitely for attention and for purposes that is more than just height......
Kourosh said on 8/Jun/16
@ rew i think you are too dumb to understand what i wrote i just simply stated my desired height range am i jealous? hell no i used to be but i am far more mature to be jealous about it. Plus, if i wear sneakers im already in 5'10 range. Burn now
MrTBlack said on 8/Jun/16
Hey Rob I got in an argument with a friend in regards to height, he claimed to be 6'1" but i told him there's no way he could be that tall because he'd be almost the same height as me and I told him that he was 5'11.5" 6'0" max. Anyway I'm 6'2.25" and my eyes met at the middle his forehead so would you say that my guess was accurate?
Editor Rob: he could be 6ft range...your eyes should be a good judge of how much above them until the top of his head. 4.5 inches is a decent amount, 2-2.5 not so much.
truth said on 8/Jun/16
@ c-mo Sorry, I did not mean that, I only wrote my genuine observations.
Jason Wentworth said on 8/Jun/16
@Ice
That's not true at all there are plenty of skilled 6'0" men in the sports you mentioned, with Basketball being the sport with a requirement for very tall athletes.

I understand that you may not agree with 6'0" being considered tall, but you don't have to exaggerate to make your point.

6'0" is not the average male height in America, you say you're over 6'1" well that's great and it's understandable for 6'0"- 6'1" not to be tall to you, but the average isn't 6'3" - 6'4".
So to the average guy 6'0" looks entirely different than it does from your perspective.
Canary said on 8/Jun/16
@Johan & CS: CS, Johan meant perceived height rather than actual height. He explained this in his message that was posted around the same time that your message was posted. He made a valid point about false perceptions. I knew many girls and women who overestimated guys' heights, as well as their own heights. One girl claimed to be four inches taller than she really was!
Tom said on 8/Jun/16
I've been measured 185.24 to be exact 6 ft 1 and a 1/8th then shrink down to sometimes 183.5 or 1.83 very lowest in history ever would be 182.5 I'm generally around 6 foot and a bit around tea time what height do I claim please rob I've been trying to contact you
rew said on 8/Jun/16
@Koroush, I still grew after 18 to the desirable height you stated. You mad or jealous? Lol. Too bad you're stuck. Quit whining.
Ice said on 8/Jun/16
A legit 6'4 is a GREAT height . My EX - therapist was a legit 192 cm , so a very strong 6'3" . At that time I was 15 and douring that year I grew from 178 cm (morning) to 184 cm (morning) . I remember how massive he seemed to me . I did grow while I saw him , so he did not look quite as massive anymore when I was , what people on this site would call , a legit 6'0 guy . He still looked a lot taller than me though . A 6'4 guy will be towering at times and can look very big to a lot of people . 6'4 puts 6'0 to shame IMO . However , a legit 6'5" would be the absolute ideal for a man IMO . And yes , a ton of women find 6'4 - 6'5 guys really attractive .
c-mo said on 8/Jun/16
truth said on 8/Jun/16
@french guy @c-mo 178 cm at night is the first solid height for a young white man. 180 cm is stronger average. 182 to 183 cm is tallish. 184 cm or more is tall. 186 cm to 188 cm is strong tall. 190 to 191 cm could argue being the start of very tall range. Over 192 - 193 cm is still very uncommon. For overrall population substract only 1 cm.

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oh cool and your reasoning for this is ?

the average height for Europe = young men = ~ 177-178cm and for all ages = ~ 175cm

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and keep in mind that the measurements are most certainly done earlier in the day this means that average young european men are about 177cm at night

so you are saying that 176cm at night is not solid because 1cm below average but 178cm at night is solid because 1cm above average ? I understand

in reality if you are at least about 174/175cm at night you are definitely in the average height range for a man and that is "solid" enough in my opinion . and even though 172-173cm is a little short even that height can look somewhat average often


and sorry but I do feel solid height at 176cm /night and you will not be able to take this away from me ...which seems to be your goal since you all of a sudden tell me that I am 2cm away from beind solid . probably a case where a person feels the need to try to cause insecurities in another person just to feel good about himself ? well it doesnt work with me . might sound a little dramatic now lol :D and maybe this wasnt your aim but many humans are like that and it is odd that all of a sudden you say that to me and you dont even mention any reason why that particular height is the start of solid
andre said on 8/Jun/16
5'4 very short
5'5 short
5'6 shortish
5'7 -5'9 average
5'10-5'11 - above average
6ft - 6ft2 - tall
6ft3- 6ft5 - mega tall
6ft6- 7ft - giant

in my country a 5ft7 guy in Portugal is still considered tall :$ we are real short
c-mo said on 8/Jun/16
Kourosh said on 8/Jun/16
@C-mo
Dude we are almost similar height range. Fresh out of bed i am usually between 177.5 to 177.9 (178cm), At night I am exactly at 176cm or hair over.

My dream height range is not 6'0 , 6'1 or 6'2. My dream height range is always around 179 cm to 181 cm. If i was in that range i wouldnt even have second thought to be any taller or shorter.

5'10.5 to 5'11.25 is my dream height range like you said, too bad i am about 1.5 inch shorter than that mark. Now, i am 26 years guy i wont grow any taller thats why im abit upset that i ended up short but what i can do about it? i try to move on not to be bother about it.

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yeah very similar . I am a little taller in the morning though . I am 178,3cm fresh out of bed and can even be 178.5cm when I have slept very long (9-10+) . but after 1 hour I already go down to 177.3 - 177.4cm

to be honest with you I like my height . I know many people here will not believe it because for most here 6'2-6'3 is perfect (well it is definitely a good height no doubt) and some feel even short at 6'0 (like wtf) so they might think I am talking out of my a**, but I really do like my height . but yeah if I would have been able to choose a height to before birth :D then I would have said "please god make me 180-183cm" but I am grateful nonetheless

and I truly believe that any man who is 175cm or taller has no REAL "right" to complain and should be grateful and any man who is 180cm or taller and complains about being too short is either just a crybaby who seeks an excuse for his failures OR has some psychological problems . "I am 183cm I feel so average and not tall enough I wish I was 192cm booo hooo" ...yeah ok bro

and @matthew you said that you can not judge being a height before you have been that height . well I disagree . I know I dont want to be 205cm for example ...I dont need to be that height first to know . I have had friends of all possible heights and have met people of all possible heights and I see how the heights look on people and how "functional" each height is so when I say that around 6'0 is perfect in my opinion it is not because I am under it and see it as the next "milestone" or anything but because I truly believe that it is the best height. I know for certain that if I was 6'0 I wouldnt take a taller height if a "genie" came up and asked me . if that was the case I would already NOW say that I would like to be 190cm over 183cm ...I dont see any reason why I would magically change my mind if I was 6'0 . and I dont see a reason why I first have to grow to 6'7 and "feel" every height until 6'7 to know what I would prefer to be . you probably mean that if I was for example 6'3 that I would see the advantages of being that tall and then think "oh wow it is better than I thought" ...well first of all 6'3 IS a good height of course so that would not be a surprise to feel advantages and 2. it is not that hard to use some imagination ....I also know how I would feel if I was 20 kg heavier so no need to first gain 20kg to look how it feels . so I can say now that yes 6'3 would have some nice aspects but no I would not choose it over 6'0

and you give very tall guys who say that 6'4 is best as an example but I have also read of guys who are 186cm who said they wish they were 180cm and I have met guys around 187cm who said they feel a little too tall ...now what ? it is objective

and my best friend is 189cm and on top of that weighs 102kg (not fat , he is sporty and works out) and doesnt have a lanky built so if I found his height perfect then I would say that I also wished I was 189cm like my friend . and well he is my friend so there is no jealousy either and I wish my friend all the best and would never be like "bro your height is not good" even though that is not true only because I dont want to grant him that his height is good (how can anybody be like that anyway ? I would never call someone like that to be a friend) and I told him that he has a nice height but if I found his height ideal I would say it but I dont find his height ideal . of course as I already said this topic is also relative and changes from person to person ...I see 6'0 as ideal someone else will think 6'2 is ideal another one will say 6'4 i deal and another one will say 5'10 is ideal to him etc.
grizz said on 8/Jun/16
Ice said on 7/Jun/16
And btw 6'0 is considered way too small for handball , basketball , football , swimming , boxing , the list goes on .
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For basketball yes, although not impossible to play position or point guard. Not so much for other sports - Handball -greatest handball player of all time (Ivano Balic) is 6'2. Football-2 of my favorite all-time players, Ronaldo and Zizou, are 6'1 range. Swimming - Ryan Lochte 6'.0.5. Boxing - Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard 5'10. MMA - Fedor Emelianenko 6', the list goes on.
James said on 8/Jun/16
@plus
What would you estimate the number of guys over 190 cm in Spain ?
How many out of 100 men exceed that mark? On a daily basis just walking on the street,
James said on 8/Jun/16
@Aaron183cm
I heard you're studying in Washington state university. You mentioned that you feel tall/above average in your university am I right?
Have you been to Seattle? What would you say the average if you've been there?
plus said on 8/Jun/16
6 feet is tall. Period. Aquí y en la China. Tall is not very tall. In Spain the typical phrase all guy over there is 180-183 and of course over too. Nick Carter is a tall guy for example in a description
french guy said on 8/Jun/16
@aaron 183 cm, good post, a legit183 cm cannot feel tall all the time, to be honest, i almost never feel tall, i feel slightly above average 80 % of time that's all.
There are so many guys who are 183-190 cm, and a substantial proportion who are 190-195 cm.

Mathew Robinson (190 cm)

you are spot on too, only short men envy guys who are 183 cmi would rather be 188 cm or even 193 cm.
I would take any height above 185 cm, up to 195 cm, than 183 cm.


183 cm is ok but there is not something to be proud of, it's kinda average today.
truth said on 8/Jun/16
@french guy @c-mo 178 cm at night is the first solid height for a young white man. 180 cm is stronger average. 182 to 183 cm is tallish. 184 cm or more is tall. 186 cm to 188 cm is strong tall. 190 to 191 cm could argue being the start of very tall range. Over 192 - 193 cm is still very uncommon. For overrall population substract only 1 cm.
the Slav said on 8/Jun/16
6 foot is probably desirable since it is a height men at average height and below would like to reach. Usually, a man in the average range would like to be 1-2 inches taller - and since most men are somewhere between 5'9-5'11 the most common desired height would be around 6'0
Jackson said on 8/Jun/16
My opinion on male heights. I live in the USA.

5'4"-5'5" Very short
5'6"-5'7" Short
5'8"-5-9" Below average
5'10" Average
5'11" Above average
6' Tallish
6'1"-6'2" Tall
6'3" Tall but not yet very tall
6'4"-6'5" Very tall
6'6"-6'7" Extreme tall
6'8"+ Giant
Sam said on 8/Jun/16
Sometimes I downgrade my height by half an inch, because in my my mind what you see in person is exactly what you get, whether you say you're 5'2 or 6'5, just as an example. Plus I like the surprise look on peoples faces every now and again met with an enthusastic "Oh, you look taller!". And it gives guys that are usually honest or want to downgrade their height more credibility because less chance they will be seen as shorter than they really are if they're honest about their height without meeting in person.
Roy said on 8/Jun/16
@average joe,. Are you Rick? You seem to have his exact problems and insecurities.
Kourosh said on 8/Jun/16
@C-mo
Dude we are almost similar height range. Fresh out of bed i am usually between 177.5 to 177.9 (178cm), At night I am exactly at 176cm or hair over.

My dream height range is not 6'0 , 6'1 or 6'2. My dream height range is always around 179 cm to 181 cm. If i was in that range i wouldnt even have second thought to be any taller or shorter.

5'10.5 to 5'11.25 is my dream height range like you said, too bad i am about 1.5 inch shorter than that mark. Now, i am 26 years guy i wont grow any taller thats why im abit upset that i ended up short but what i can do about it? i try to move on not to be bother about it.
CS said on 7/Jun/16
@Canary I think Johan means guys actually in the 5'11 - 6'0 range will be seen as ideal to women. Not the average woman's idea of what 5'11 - 6'0 looks like (because that will be skewed), but a guy who genuinely measures 5'11 - 6'0 (not in the morning).

@Jason Wentworth agreed completely.
Enzo said on 7/Jun/16
@rob rob my work requires 9 hours standing up without sitting down , after work I measure at 182.0 on a normal day out with Friends I'm measure at 182.3 , does my work put me to my absolute lowest ? Does it put more pressure on my spine ? Thank you for your time
Editor Rob: yes I think the effects of standing about for many hours like that puts you down to your lowest mark.
Ice said on 7/Jun/16
And btw 6'0 is considered way too small for handball , basketball , football , swimming , boxing , the list goes on .
Ice said on 7/Jun/16
@CS wow youre obsessed with 6 foot . Relax man , its average , not good , not bad , and not tall . And most women would not preferre 6'0 over 6'4 . Women like tall guys , and 6'0 is not tall .
Ice said on 7/Jun/16
Its weird how all guys who are 6 foot range insist that its so "unbelievably desirable" to be that height , because everything is so "easy" with cars , public transportation , door frames etc. And that women will exclusiveley date them , because everyone over that height range is just a freak of nature . Newsflash : Im over 6'1 and I can guarantee you I never have problems with not having enough room , ever . Not even when I wear shoe lifts + shoes that would make me a little over 6'5" out of bed do I have problems with "too little room" . And almost all doorframes are about 6'7 high . Jesus you guys act like all the public transportations and cars are built for little children . They are not . Second , its not even true that most women think that 5'11 - 6'0 is ideal . There are a ton of women who think men that are like 6'4 are really attractive . Tall is a big plus for a ton of women , and yes , LEGIT tall , not some so - so a tiny bit over average 6'0-6'1 tall . It doesnt matter what some dating site survey bla bla on the internet might say . One can find anything on the net . I was legit 6'0 and then was legit 6'1 not too long ago and didnt really think those were good heights .
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 7/Jun/16
Rob when the media talk about young people are they referring too people are between 18 and 24 does that mean people are 25 and over are considered mature adults and not young adults anymore 25 is when youth young adult range is over.
Editor Rob: it might be 18-25. I mean I don't even think of myself as almost 40. It creeps up on you...
Slenderman said on 7/Jun/16
@John

Fantastic height for what? If you are professionall basketball player, then it's ok, but unfortunatelly I am not...I am playing for recreation...
I would give anything to make my self shorter...This height ruined my life, I am sure no one wants to be this tall, it's too much!
You don't need more than 190 cm, that's the most perfect height... unfortunatelly, I couldn't change my genetic. My parrents are tall too..my father is exactly 200 cm (who looks like a kid near me) and my mother is 186... but i turned out to be a giant :/...Also, I am 25 years old, and last year I was 213.5 cm tall, now i am a tad over 215, so i grew up almost 2 cm since last year. I pray to God i finnaly stopped growing..

@Ice

I didn't say that I am the tallest one in the world lol...there are enough people taller than me. But, the places I visited in Serbia, I didn't see there someone taller than me, also in my city I am the tallest one....but I am sure there are at least 15 people taller than me in Serbia....i just haven't meet them

@the Slav
Nice...I live in Vranje, if u know for that city too? It's in southern Serbia. :--)


@175 cm

Nah, I am not tallest one in Serbia, but in my city I am, and in the most cities. There is bb player who is 222cm...I know just for him, but i am sure there is more people taller than me lol :-D
truth said on 7/Jun/16
@roy Claim your noon height, which is probably bang on 5'10 ( 177.5 cm range). My dad was 181.5 cm range peak night (now closer to 180 cm), he has always claimed
to be 182 cm (measured height during the day).


172 cm (5'7.75") range min. evening = claim 5'8"
173 cm (5'8") range min. evening = claim 5'8.5"
175 cm (5'9") range min. evening = claim 5'9.5"
176 cm (5'9.5") range min. evening = claim 5'10"
177 cm (5'9.75" - 5'10") range min. evening = claim 5'10"
178 cm (5'10" - 5'10.25") range min. evening = claim 5'10.5"
179 cm (5'10.5" - 5'10.75") range min. evening = claim 5'11"
180 cm (5'11" - 5'11.25") range min. evening = claim 5'11.5"
181 cm (5'11.5") range min. evening = claim 6'0"
182 cm (5'11.75" - 6'0") range min. evening = claim 6'0"
183 cm (6'0" - 6'0.25") range min. evening = claim 6'0.5"

This is a help note for the average guy here who is from EU and probably measures 177 cm to 179 cm.
Saqib said on 7/Jun/16
Some guys way back were saying being too tall is a disadvantage in a fight and longer limbs and legs leads to poor stability,low speed etc.

Try unbalancing brock lesnar. :)
Dee said on 7/Jun/16
@184cm

Honestly I don't know. I just turned 18 years old and I'm probably in like the 88th-90th percentile for guys my age. I'm pretty sure it's higher for older men because the younger generation is even taller.
plus said on 7/Jun/16
In Spain, in my view, mode - average males is around 5'7.5 171 cm, and mode - average in 18-35 years old is 5'8.5 174 cm. I really feel tallish among global male population here and very solid upper average among the youngest crowd measuring 176 cm tall. I don't deny that average in France and UK are taller!! And in sports the same. But in Spain it is like that.

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