General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added mention it on this page.

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Nik said on 29/Apr/17
@Canary

Hi Canary!

Thanks for that. When you say that environment plays a bigger role than ethnicity what do you mean? How does environment affect height?
Also what differences are there in height between people in North Korea and people in South Korea? what has caused this?

Cheers!
Nik said on 29/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

Hi Sandy! Who is your tallest brother and how tall is he?

Cheers!
Peter 179cm said on 29/Apr/17
@ Josh I get your logic in saying that but you have to realize morning height is far from accurate.In fact 5'11.5 or thereabouts is only my max out of bed height and gets vanished literally in the first 5 minutes of wakening.My "real" morning height which can last for more than 1 hour sometimes 2 hours if i'm lying around is almost 181cm.So technically i claim only about 2cm below my AM height which is fair since i always drop to 179-180 range at night and just go with the lowest figure merely because of preference.I dont care about height statistics-if you ask me they're exaggerated and surely height surveys are skewed as well as alot of people just give their height anf DONT get measured.
Michael R said on 28/Apr/17
@dont know what to claim what is your morning and night height
Sophia (175.5cm said on 28/Apr/17
I measured again recently, I'm 175,5cm at night. I wear flats, sandals, and women's shoes with ankle socks most of the time. I rarely wear heels, I love high heels.
Namor said on 28/Apr/17
G 5'11: Yo bro, do you gym it? I've been doing exercises a and I've noticed some results. Not to keen on showing pics though haha I'm sorta private like that. What inspired me to get into sorta shape was the movies I'm into lol weird huh I want to try be the best version of myself never done this before
Sophia (175.5cm said on 28/Apr/17
I measured again recently, I'm 175,5cm at night. I wear flats, sandals, and women's shoes with ankle socks most of the time. I rarely wear heels, I love high heels
Michael R said on 28/Apr/17
@6'1.5 guy dude I'm not even 18 lol I turn 16 next month
G 5'11 said on 28/Apr/17
@ Don't know what to claim (5'11") eh 6'6 is too tall I wish I was 6'2. But 6'6, there's a legit 6'6 guy at my gym, I mean yeah he's the center of attention because of his height and he seems like a cool guy but must be uncomfortable ducking under doorways, finding clothes etc.
G 5'11 said on 28/Apr/17
@Peter 179cm dude tell me about it, I hate when they easily add like an inch or two and you can tell they aren't even close that range bare foot it's annoying. And hahaha that's funny I never even did anything like that but lmfao πŸ˜‚
Houss said on 28/Apr/17
G 5'11
You look great keep working bro i think you're around 75 kg
I'm 104kg know , i was 110kg in winter
I do bodybuilding ( naturally) since 2003 , benched with 157kg 6reps , i had to stop traninig in 2014 b/c of a shoulders injurie
Canary said on 28/Apr/17
@Sophia: You're tall, but you're well within the normal range. You have a desired and statuesque height, and a lot of short girls may be envious of it. Many men prefer tall women too. There are many advantages at your height.
Gleb said on 28/Apr/17
I think that 5'10'' is an ideal average height of a man.Also mobile and quick)
grizz said on 28/Apr/17
Due to insomnia I got some time to update my initial research on perfect male height for Croatian women (or any other country with 5'11 average).
Hint: it was 186.5 cm.
My sample size got bigger now and it is around 300 from 4 forums - the perfect height turned out to be 184.8 cm or 6'0.75 exactly. Given that 2 inch deviation is tolerable for most women, turns out that 179 - 189 cm range(evening heights) is the sweet spot for girls.
Peter 179cm said on 28/Apr/17
@ G 5'11 In my case most people i've heard either claim an in-shoes height or just add invisible cm's xD.Very few seem to be honest and give a reasonable claim (within 1cm).I used to claim 186 or 187cm when i was 17 lmaoo.I had measured once in tip-toes and got 187 range and just went with that xD... :p
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 28/Apr/17
Sophia said on 27/Apr/17
Is 175-176cm barefoot, tall for a woman in the uk. I'm 175cm at night. I wear flats most of the time. my bf is 183cm

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Yes, pretty tall. You're about 12cm taller than the average which is around 163. I don't think you would be taller than your bf unless if wearing very high heels.
Josh said on 28/Apr/17
@Peter 179cm
You claim 2,6cm under your morning height as your height? I think it gets a Bit extreme on this Site here...
All that arguing about mms is just ridiculous.
First of all Most people dont even know that you shrink during the day and i doubt it that people outside of this Site come home after a Hard working day and say, hey i measure my height now.
And height statistics are for sure not absolute lowest heights either!
All that you have to claim your extreme low and you are cheating if you breathe in when you measure, sorry but its far away from Reality!
Michael R said on 28/Apr/17
Sophia yes it is tall
Nik said on 28/Apr/17
@Canary

Ok thanks for that. Maybe the Dutch are the most health conscious people on the planet and this is just something that is in their culture., they also travel about a lot on bikes! I wonder if Holland is one of the least diverse countries in Europe in terms of ethnicity? I am sure it does have an effect on the average height of people from different western countries.

Cheers!
Kl said on 28/Apr/17
It may sound stupid but sometimes I feel short at 6'1 also I live in Asia I don't know I guess I'm obssesed with height
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 28/Apr/17
Canson said on 26/Apr/17
Hi Sandy: yep I'm from Northern VA (Washington DC area). It's nice to hear from you as well!!!

Yes and for celebheights purposes 6'4.25 or 6'4.5 is adequate enough being I don't come all the way down to 6'4". I just claim 6'4" because I'm not that close to 6'5"

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Is the region you live predominatly White and Black? Because White and Black people are on average the two tallest races in US. In Torrance CA where I live, there's a pretty heavy Asian and Latino population, this is maybe why I feel the average height over here's a bit shorter than 5ft9.
Canary said on 27/Apr/17
@Nik: I should add that ethnicity doesn't always decrease or increase the averages. Wealthy Asian young adults may be the same height as wealthy European young adults. Environment tends to play a much greater role than ethnicity. Look at the two Koreas for a dramatic example of this.
?lvaro said on 27/Apr/17
Hey friends, excuse my English, I'm Spanish, but ... could you tell me how many centimeters or inches did you grow since the age of 17? Thank you.
6'1-6'1.5 Guy said on 27/Apr/17
Michael R said on 26/Apr/17
Click Here The maximum height I have reached in the morning hopefully this warrants an upgrade in my users page. Most nights I sleep 5-6 hours and am poorly hydration on this day I slept about 11-12 hours and drank a lot of water the night before allowing this and hopefully it was some growth too because I haven't checked my morning in 6 weeks.

Hi, Michael R.
How old are you?
How much did you grow after 18 years?
Thanks.
dont know what to claim (5'11") said on 27/Apr/17
daily i wish i was 6'6 thoughts
Sophia said on 27/Apr/17
Is 175-176cm barefoot, tall for a woman in the uk. I'm 175cm at night. I wear flats most of the time. my bf is 183cm
Peter 179cm said on 27/Apr/17
@ Chris I think claiming your average height of morning and evening is inaccurate.For example i was 181.6 out of bed today and 179.4 12 hours later at 9pm.The average value is 180.5cm which is definitely NOT my height for most of the day maybe for a couple hours in the morning but by lunchtime i'll be atleast 4-5mm shorter than that.Of course each individual's shrinkage level is different and opinions on "true height" vary as well but average day height might just be another version of morning height which is inflated imo.I'm not accusing your claim or anyone's claim for that matter cause we're all free to say what we want to say and height is just "quiz-talking" anyway so that's that 😎.
Sophia said on 27/Apr/17
Is 175-176cm barefoot, tall for a woman in the uk. I'm 175cm at night. I wear flats most of the time. my bf is 183cm
G 5'11 said on 27/Apr/17
@Houss bro you are swole af! Fuuua. I'm mirin. You got good genetics and your back is bigger then mine. Def get back at it. How much you weigh around? I'm struggling to get past 160. I fluctuate between 157-160ish. But it depends. Here let me get some shots of me.Click Here what do you think? My goal is 170/180ish. 10% bf
@Chris, I feel you. I've been here for a couple years but yeah you seem to have gotten the basics of celeb heights down. Yeah when a guy says 5'11 he could be either a flat/strong/weak one. Most guys have no idea there's a max morning height and a low night height, they just get measured once in their life and go with the mark. Some guys will round up, others down. It really depends. And actually yeah he's a weak 5'11 with his height loss but he can very well claim the mark. It's crazy how his morning height is a good chunk higher then mine but towards the end of the day my height is higher then his by a little bit. However I'm sure if we met in person we would both know we where weak 5'11 guys ( now that you come to celeb heights of course ) and fyi weak is when they fall below a certain mark, strong is when they are well above it and flat is when they go down to exactly that mark or maybe a small fraction below it. Like 1/8th perhaps. Imo
@Peter179cm yeah I think he can claim 5'11 comfortably. In real life situations when it comes to height most guys wouldn't say " almost 5'11" I've rarely heard that. On occasion I hear people claim half inch marks or 3/4 inch marks. But I feel the majority would round up or down. I'm not saying it wouldn't be correct for him to claim it like that as that's being even more accurate. Just I feel like most people treat height differently outside of celeb heights in terms of claims and such.
Sophia said on 27/Apr/17
Is 175-176cm barefoot, tall for a woman in the uk. I'm 175cm at night
Canson said on 27/Apr/17
@Nik: my father is less than half inch shorter or close to half inch if anything. I have a cousin who is 6'6" I believe and one who is 6'8" I think but I'm not really close with them. They're abbot far down the line I believe
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridi said on 27/Apr/17
Rob have lost any weight recently last time i heard you went from 183 pounds to 179 pounds have you lost any more weight since.
Editor Rob: no, I'm holding around 180 I checked the other day there...

As long as I'm not going up, that's ok.
Nik said on 27/Apr/17
@Canson

Are any of your family or friends taller than you?
Bobby said on 26/Apr/17
@Cowboy, you're only rounding .3 inches, I don't think anybody would raise an eyebrow in everyday life. Still, it's quite a drop mate.
G 5'11 said on 26/Apr/17
@Cowboy oh yeah and bro I see it all the time, guys who don't even look a legit 5'9 claiming 5'11. It's because they think they wouldn't be able to pull off claiming 6'. And it's the 5'10 range guys claiming 6 foot that really rustle people's jimmys. And you can usually tell.
Canary said on 26/Apr/17
@Nik: The Dutch are taller because they have better diets and better healthcare from womb to tomb. They probably have the best prenatal care in the world. They experience the things that almost always lead to taller heights. The opposite was true in the past. Ethnicity plays a role because Asian populations and other populations would reduce the country's mean height. Mexicans bring down the average in some areas here. It's just common sense. White Dutch people tend to be taller than non-White Dutch people.
Houss said on 26/Apr/17
@G 5'11 this's how i look these days haha
What do you think
Click Here
I recently back to trainig after a long three years of injury and m'y gains are 100 percent natural
Peter 179cm said on 26/Apr/17
@ cowboy We have similar height except that i hold 5'10.75 range on most days and only drop to 5'10.5 range on occasions.I think it's perfectly fine for you to claim 5'11 or atleast "almost 5'11" and guite honest as well since you wake up comfortably over the mark.

@ chris no i meant you can claim 6'0 with ease as it's your overall day height and 3-4mm is a tiny amount.
Michael R said on 26/Apr/17
Click Here The maximum height I have reached in the morning hopefully this warrants an upgrade in my users page. Most nights I sleep 5-6 hours and am poorly hydration on this day I slept about 11-12 hours and drank a lot of water the night before allowing this and hopefully it was some growth too because I haven't checked my morning in 6 weeks.
Kl said on 26/Apr/17
Rob would u consider a solid 185cm tall in UK or above average I myself live in south Asia and notice lads these days are around my height or at least 6ft what's up with young generation in UK are they exceptionally tall at young age like 14-15 will u consider 6ft a good height for UK male with a large body frame
Editor Rob: Kl, the UK average for young blokes is in the 177-8 zone, overall average still 175-6, so a 185 guy is comfortably tall in the UK.
Nik said on 26/Apr/17
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8)

It's good to know that you agree with most of my height chart, cheers for that. Well the start of "very tall" is debatable but I felt it was the best height chart I have ever done, I have had enough practice!

πŸ‘
Bobby said on 26/Apr/17
@Arthur, it's only 5mm, though with your stats, I'd claim 5'10.5 at least.
Chris said on 26/Apr/17
@cowboy im new to celebheights. But what i see people doing in real life is get the highest and lowest result and claim the middle result because thats the height you are on most of the time. So in your case you are a 5'11 foot guy. Take me for example im 184 morning and 182.5 evening. So i claim 183. I came to celebheights to know if i was called a 6 footer here. By curiosity. Im getting mixed results. But im know that im 183 cm (maybe 183.5 cm) most of the time. Im my view and in real world you are a 5'11 guy. For example no one is exactaly 180 cm (most are 179.7, 180,2, 180,6, 179,6) etc. And you know you are a 5'11 foot guy. You only would be a 5'10 foot guy if ur morning was 5' 10.5 foot and evening 5'9.5 foot. My brother is 178 or 179 so he is a 5 foot 10 and he is not much shorter than me...only like 1 inch and half or 2 inchs max. Bless you.
Canson said on 26/Apr/17
Hi Sandy: yep I'm from Northern VA (Washington DC area). It's nice to hear from you as well!!!

Yes and for celebheights purposes 6'4.25 or 6'4.5 is adequate enough being I don't come all the way down to 6'4". I just claim 6'4" because I'm not that close to 6'5"
G 5'11 said on 26/Apr/17
@Cowboy claim 5'11. Honestly you're morning height is a little higher then mine but, I'm still 5'11 at noon and go down to 5'10.75 around 7/8pm ish. My ultimate low right before bed would be 5'10.5" you're still near enough 5'11 to claim it imo small round up is justifiable.
Michael R said on 26/Apr/17
For me ideally I'd like to be 6 foot 3 at night. Given my parents stature it's unlikely I will grow much more I've already exceeded what most people would expect
Sandy Cowell said on 26/Apr/17
@ Canson - Hello! Are you from the United States? Two of my half-brothers live in Atlanta, Georgia and they love it! Personally, I am, and have always been, even before I knew what accents were, very fond of American voices!
I had no idea that we could reach our lowest height in the early afternoon! I thought it was last thing at night! It has been for me in the past! Once I measured 153 last thing at night and I shall never, ever accept that! It was on some weighing scales and I had no idea I was being measured!
This is a very friendly and interesting page and I am learning a lot of things I had no idea about before I came to this website.
Always nice to hear from you! Thanks for your pearls of wisdom! πŸ‘πŸ™Œ
cowboy said on 26/Apr/17
my morning height is 5'11.5, afternoon 5'10.6. Is claiming 5'11 a stretch for me to claim outside of celebheights? Celebheights is fairly picky, but in the real world I see guys 2 inches shorter than me that claim my height.
Bazza said on 26/Apr/17
@Canson - actually on reflection i took that first measurement almost one hour out of bed as i didn't think it would be much difference, probably need to re take that measurement straight away as i get up for a true out of bed maybe it would be an .2 or .3 of a cm or maybe more!

I see what you are saying, and get where you are coming from. I have no concerns about my height either, it's just i have always said 6'2 and i'm not down grading myself now. If anyone ever queries it i'm quite happy to say 187cm to people which is what i would always measure through the day and near on 6'2 anyway.
NotReallyShort said on 26/Apr/17
@delancey exactly, but again 4 cm is the highest drop i've ever recorded, 3 cm is the average (from 178 cm to 175 cm), but i've been following my height patterns and i guess it all depends on my physical activity, sleep and water consumption, i noticed that in the absence of these three, my height drops significantly the next day (waking up shorter than 178 cm), but whenever i keep a healthy day, i could maintain a 176 cm at night, its a shock how much height varies, and its affected by external factors.
Nik said on 26/Apr/17
@Canary

I am sorry about that I may have missed it with the volume of traffic that there is on this page. Yes it's incredible that the average young Dutch woman was only 4'11" in the 17th century!

Why do the Dutch experience better environments than people from other countries? also how does less diversify in the Dutch population mean that people in Holland are now taller than people from all the other countries in the world?

Cheers!
Chris said on 26/Apr/17
@peter 179 cm so that means i am not a 6 footer? I measured now my morning height. Its around 184.2 cm. Im european and i always claimed 183 cm cause my father is 185 cm and he is a bit taller than me but no much. I know im 183 cm,my question is if im considered a 6 footer here. Cause seems to me that people here only count the height before bed. Im 183 cm most of the day. Thank you for your time. Bless.
Chris said on 26/Apr/17
@peter 179 cm so that means i am not a 6 footer? I measured now my morning height. Its around 184.2 cm. Im european and i always claimed 183 cm cause my father is 185 cm and he is a bit taller than me but no much. I know im 183 cm,my question is if im considered a 6 footer here. Cause seems to me that people here only count the height before bed. Im 183 cm most of the day. Thank you for your time. Bless.
Arthur said on 26/Apr/17
@Bobby

No. No one would believe that you were 5'10.5 in the morning. That's because EVERYONE is taller in the morning. Not just you. And you are NOT 5'10.5. You are 5'10.303 (see how precise I am to make you happy? :-) )
Sandy Cowell said on 26/Apr/17
@ Shiva 181cm - That's a tricky one! A person's ideal height is a height you are happy with, just the same as weight, but unlike weight, which we can control, height is something we cannot! 😩
I think that 6ft1 or 2 plus is probably the sort of height which gives a man an advantage in life, and for a woman 5ft7 or 8, if she wants to make it as a model, though in my opinion, 5ft5 - 6 is probably more popular.
Having said that, actors and actresses come in a variety of heights and in order to have the confidence to succeed in the acting world, they are probably all quite content with the way they were made, or they would hardly display themselves on screen! They will mostly have accepted themselves, so in their cases, they are their ideal heights!
For the rest of us, maybe the shorter have to work a little harder for success, but this is far from a hard and fast rule!😊 Cheers Shiva! Have a nice day!
Bazza said on 26/Apr/17
@Chris - solid 6 footer, don't doubt it :-)
Peter 179cm said on 26/Apr/17
@ Chris you can easily pass for 6ft.
@ Bobby He has the shrinkage of a 7footer and he's only average height.At least i start at strong 181 and go down to solid 179 at night-nothing special about it.
Canson said on 26/Apr/17
@G 5'11: yes and it is sad that height has become so important in people's lives that they have to stoop to others levels and lie about how tall they are and the ones who inflate and try to convince themselves and others that they are taller than they are are just pathetic. Even the ones who do all types of rounding to themselves cause problems example I have a 6'3 cousin who is a 5'3.5 morning height. He has convinced himself at least had that he is 6'4 (he is military and I have never agreed with how they measure people when you first get to work which is basically an hour out of bed in most cases). When someone does all types of rounding like that then says to someone else "well you look an inch taller so you're 6'5" the person next to them could be 2cm taller and only 6'4.25 instead at the same time they measure which means 6'3 7/8 at night then it's really stupid. My dad is about that the latter 6'3 7/8 low height and is taller than my cousin. We measure my cousin at his house once when we all went over. Low and behold my dad had him by at least half inch if not more (2cm) and my cousin was bang on 191 cm
Canson said on 26/Apr/17
@Bobby: that isn't always true. Taller guys don't. I know 6'2.5 guys who say 6'2" and even for me I measured almost bang on 6'4.5 (194-194.1) up until a year ago evening. I still listed myself as 6'4" on drivers license etc. most guys don't care once you reach that point. It's almost like an ego or a psychological thing when you "feel" you have to list yourself higher. Of course that's reasonable if you do it and nothing against it but there is no "rule" saying someone has to do it. If they're comfortable rounding down that's fine. Even if someone is say 6'0.75 or 5/8 and says 6'0" that's fine since they're comfortably under a full 6'1". I think when people use the logic of they have to do it it's because insecure guys who need to get everything out of their height because it means so much to them inflate them. And insecure can mean shorter guys or even some of these 6'3 guys claiming 6'5 they're also insecure. Height is a number that's all it is. People put far too much stake into it. And I'd say the same thing I'm saying now even if I were 5'11.25- 5'11.5 instead of 6'4.25-.5 I'd not care because people will generally guess me over 6'0" or at 6'0" at that stage since most guys in that range round up or add 2" while others will likely say I'm 5'11" since I actually am that height. A lot of it is perception based but my issue is when people start effing around with others numbers like inflating them just to make themselves or their lies convincing and believable. People say that downgrading is trolling or bad. Inflating a design a lie or undermining a claim to make someone else taller is just as insulting and this is really trolling
Canson said on 26/Apr/17
@Sandy: people misconstrue rob's definition of average. You're normally at your low by around lunch or early afternoon maybe if anything losing another 1/8". Sometimes I can lose an 1/8" and come to 6'4.25 others I don't lose more than maybe a mm after maybe 7 hours. People assume he means average number or that nighttime height is significantly different from 5-7 hours. It's not. I saw one person who is inflating a celeb lost the celebs lunch height as 5-7 hours 1/2-3/4 taller than their evening which makes no sense. Rob means average as in the height you walk around at for the majority of the day. Meaning in my case 195.8 out of bed my average would be 194 since I only fall slightly below and I'm at that height if I were up for 16 of 24 hours I'd be there for 7-8 hours (193.9) so at that point if I used cm I round up. But in the states it converts to 6'4"
Canson said on 26/Apr/17
@Shiva: my ideal ideal for a man imho is 5'10-6'4. 6'4" is still comfortably tall. Maybe 5'11-6'5.That's encompassing all ranges really that most men would choose to be. 6'5" is at the top of it as it's about as tall as a man can almost comfortably be. 5'10 is slightly above average. For a woman I can't speculate. Most women say 5'8/5'9 is as tall as they'd want to be but I hear some say 5'10 is ok. Ideally being 6'4" I'd say a 5'11" woman is not too tall.and that's in keeping if a guy is only slightly over 6'0" they're still taller than them.
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 26/Apr/17
Rob, how tall do you think this guy in the video is? Click Here He claims 6ft5, but looks more 6ft3.5-6ft4 to me, based on the fact that the girl really is her 6ft1 claim (visible footwear @ 0:19)
delancey said on 25/Apr/17
@NoReallyShort Dropping from 178 cm to 174 cm is definitely a highly extreme amount of daily loss. Are you sure you've measured correctly?
174cm is my evening height like yourself but I wake up at 176.5/176 cm. I don't think I've ever heard of someone losing 4cm of height a day.
179cm said on 25/Apr/17
Michael R said on 25/Apr/17
How much did you guys grow from 16 to adulthood?

I was 175cm at 16 so I didn't grow a lot taller. Significant growth like going from 170 to 180cm would be pretty unusual.
JKE 168 cm said on 25/Apr/17
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 24/Apr/17
@Editor Rob
Connor at almost 6'1 :---)
It's as likely as you measuring a proper 5ft 8.75 in the morning haha


Just face it, Rob is a strong 5ft 8 and Bobby drops below 5ft 10 but has the right to claim it !
Canary said on 25/Apr/17
@Nik: I answered your question about the past short Dutch population. You might have missed my post. They were short due to poverty and war. I think that Dutch young women were around 4'11 back then.

@Sandy Cowell: It goes to show that there are very few tall ethnicities or short ethnicities. Height differences among ethnicities are caused by environments rather than heredity in most cases. Groups, like the Watusi, are the exception to this rule. My guess is that IQ follows this rule too.
5'9 said on 25/Apr/17
If a 5'9" guy and a 5'6" girl were talking face to face. Would the girl look up at the guy? Is 3 inches a big enough difference that the girl would look up?
Editor Rob: sometimes when a taller person talks to a smaller, the taller guy might lower eyelevel a bit and the smaller raise it....so the difference can seem smaller than if both of you had level heads (the girl would be looking at the mouth of the taller guy).
Canson said on 25/Apr/17
Bobby you're 5'10. It's all good to claim it. The only way I'd raise the Brow is if I were maybe 5'9.25 or 5'9.33 (like I fall in the 6'4 range) and you were the same and still claiming 5'10. Then I'd say something especially not knowing height varies like it does. I see that with 6'3 guys saying they're 6'4. I have a friend now actually two of them that are almost identical in height. The solid 6'3 claims 6'3 (this is the one I reference all the time that has met many celebs in his profession such as Charles Barkley Russell Westbrook The Rock just to name a few). Then we have another friend who is maybe 1/4" taller than he is and claims 6'4. His words were that he's 6'3 3/4. We measured him and he was 191cm to a T evening and I had him by an entire inch I measured 6'4.25 that evening maybe because I was on my feet a bit more instead of 6'4.33. He said "I thought you were 6'5" and the other friend yelled back no "he's 6'4 you're 6'3". That's one reason why I claim 6'4" not to mention I have a friend 1" taller who claims 6'5" doesn't even say 6'5 and change and he falls 196.3 or .4 evening. Not to mention two taller friends who are a clean 6'6" barefoot and 6'7 and 1/8 all evening. They also refer to me as 6'4 all of them do
Canson said on 25/Apr/17
@Bazza: thanks! That's odd you only lose 0.4cm from out of bed until lunch. We're you laying around some? I ask because I'm down a full half inch just after about two hours maybe a hair more than that esp if it's getting up showering sitting in the car for 1 hour to work etc. I've measured about 6'4 5/8 after 2 hours which is just under 1/2 then am usually down to 6'4 1/2 right around 4. I do claim 6'4.5 sometimes but to me saying 6'5" has no meaning to me and I don't get why people feel that claiming one vs the other has any bearing. It's just a number. Doesn't define me as a person. I consider myself 6'4" just for the fact I measure 6'4" range for the entire day practically and am even as low as maybe 6'4.05 at an extreme low and 6'4.25 on other low days (no higher than 6'4.33), for this site I say 194cm since most people convert in cm but in inches I just say 6'4". I reserve that claiming higher or desire to do so for guys who "wish" to feel taller whereas for me I like my height and don't need to be any taller to be happy with myself.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridi said on 25/Apr/17
Rob does gaining and losing too much weight cause diabetes Tom hanks had to gain 4 stone in weigh and lose 4 stone in weight for castaway in took him 2 years to lose the weight he gained for filming castaway that's a lot of weight is it dangerous to gain and lose 4 stone in weight in that short amount of time that's a lot to gain and a lot to lose that by the end of the film he had to gain some weight since he was too thin in some scenes.
Sandy Cowell said on 25/Apr/17
@ Canson - There's no denying it! You are a very tall guy! Do you think taller people shrink more during the day than shorter people, as there is more person to shrink (that sounds quite funny!) or do you think it varies from person to person? What is your view generally?

PS You are nearer to 6ft4.5 than 6ft4, but if we had to pick a height for you like we do for the celebs, you would have to make do with 6ft4.25!
Chris said on 25/Apr/17
Rob if someone is 182.5 at night before going to bad,is that person a legit 6 footer? Cause i don't know my morning height. But i know that im 182.5 right before going to bed. My mother measured me after waking up and said im 184 cm but i have my daughts. My friend wich is as tall as me said im 183.5 after measuring me at the middle of the day and i measured him and he is 183.2 (wich i could be also).anyways this will help alot of people here since alot of people have this daught. A 182.5 cm guy before going to bed is a legit 6 footer? And thank you for this site. Is amazing!
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 25/Apr/17
@Nik

Your height category was pretty decent, but I don't see how 6'2" is in the "very tall" range. It's only 4.5-5" above average in the UK. 6'2" guys usually aren't tall enough to noticeably stick out from a crowd of people.
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 25/Apr/17
The Dutch are wealthier than Americans.

@Rob
Would you estimate US-American Jews to measure taller than the Caucasian Average?
Editor Rob: I haven't read any research to be able to say.
Nik said on 25/Apr/17
@jensen

When I talk about average heights I tend to think of them as median heights!

Which country are you referring to with your averages? (Median averages!)
Thomas6ft1 said on 25/Apr/17
@18Teen
Thanks, you've made me and all other legit 6'1ers on this site feel good about themselves. :P
18Teen said on 25/Apr/17
@grizz Yes, 6'1 is by far the ideal height a man could ever be. My cousin is 17.5 and 184 at his high and 182.5 at his low. He does not want to pass 6'2.

There will always be someone taller, but no one has anything on a 185-6 man. I hope 2 inches is doable before 22 (when most men in my family stop growing!)
shiva 181 cms said on 25/Apr/17
@ canson ,just a small question,what would be the ideal height for men and women in your point of view
shiva 181 cms said on 25/Apr/17
@ Sandy, glad for your reply, if you wouldn't mind could you tell what would be the ideal height for men and women in your opinion
shiva 181 cms said on 25/Apr/17
@ Michael r ,I've grown a cm from 16 and I'm 3months shy of 18 ,still hoping to grow a bit and reach a full 6'1 or may be 6'2 , also my dad's 5'11 and mom's 5'4
Nik said on 25/Apr/17
@Johan

I have a lot of time for Eastern European people and their ways of life!

πŸ‘
Csimpson 6ft said on 25/Apr/17
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN)

I think my mum is 5ft 2 and my dad is probably 5ft 7.5 or possibly 5ft 7.75
Bobby said on 25/Apr/17
@G 5'11, most people will round up anyway, it's the sensible thing to do. If I measured 6'1.5, I'd claim 6'2. In real life, a half inch isn't easy to see, even people an inch apart in height can often look the same height. So for those of us rounding up 1/4 of an inch, I challenge anybody in person to see that difference. They wouldn't, and since the difference is so small, it's a reasonable round up.
@Notreallyshort, that is indeed strange, I've never heard of such a loss, not even Peter loses that much throughout the day.
G 5'11 said on 25/Apr/17
@Michael R true, but let's face it if you had to choose between 5'11 and 6'2 you know damn right you wouldn't pick 5'11. Not that it's a bad height, but 6'2 is more desireable. I believe 5'11 is that height where's it's like a good chunk above average, you might look a bit tall to shorter people. But 6'2 looks tall to just about everybody.
G 5'11 said on 25/Apr/17
@Noreallyshort that's odd you wake up a weak 5'10 and go down to about 5'8 range, 1.5 inch loss isn't that common. I generally lose about a half inch through out the day, sometimes a bit more in extreme cases. But generally my height loss is close to a half inch. How's your posture like? Do you think you might have back problems man?
@Bobby yeah I mean from my absolute lowest I'm rounding, I know there's an on going debate here like what height you should claim and when it's okay to round. But I believe a small round up from an absolute low is alright. Since most people will see you at or close to x height for most of the day. At least that's how I feel.
Johan said on 25/Apr/17
Nik said on 24/Apr/17
@Johan

Ok sorry for that, I have read what you said and you are correct. It's the standard of living that matters and it does not have to go hand in hand with having the richest multinational companies, often the richest can afford the best things but it doesn't have to be like that. I certainly never thought that the Netherlands was a poor country, I knew it was one of the richer countries. If healthy living is a way of life then that is all credit to the Dutch.

No harm done Nik, another thing you should know we Dutch are very proud of our country :) So I can be a little overzealous at times haha.

I think Diet is part of the reason that we are "happier" according to studies but also other things like work and recreation. Everyone is so stressed from what I saw in England , we only work 38 hours a week here and thats fulltime, for comparison.

We also cycle everywhere, if you ever come to the Netherlands get ready to see ALOT of bicycles, we only use the car for distances over 5 miles.
grizz said on 25/Apr/17
@18Teen, I agree with your opinion on the ideal height - and we have practically identical explanation for picking that height!
Bobby said on 25/Apr/17
@Michael R, Michael, how can I not be a legit 5'10 if I measure well over the mark in the morning? Anyone seeing me in the morning would think I was 5'10.5. I rest my case.
jensen said on 25/Apr/17
median height is more like 174 cm barefoot for adult men(50 percent taller than that) and for women is 161 cm
maybe 162 cm and 175 cm but no more than that,taking into account everyone not only giant dutch people and nordics
Nik said on 25/Apr/17
My height chart for Uk men:

- 5'4" - very small
5'4" - 5'7" - small
5'7" - 5'8" - smallish
5'8" - 5'10" - average
5'10" - 5'11" - tallish
5'11" - 6'2" - tall
6'2" - 6'5" - very tall
6'5" + - exceptionally tall

nb. I have tried to keep it simple and consistent too, small starting at 5'7" and tall starting at 5'11" is consistent with me claiming an average of 5'9". (you can easily work out that this is my average as 5'9" is the midpoint of my 5'8" - 5'10" average range.) Also for each range I include the lower value but not the higher one, eg the 5'8" - 5'10" average range includes 5'8" flat but not 5'10" flat, the 5'10" flat is where average finishes but is not part of that range for me.
Canson said on 25/Apr/17
@Sandy: I consider my average 194cm flat (6'4 3/8). That's after 5-7 hours for me sometimes I'm 193.9 after 7. I just say 6'4" only because I'm not in the category where I need to embellish my stats at my height as I'm content. Taller guys don't usually round up unless they're over 1/2" and even then I see some 6'5 1/2 or even 6'4 1/2 6'2 1/2 guys round down. To me it's like peter said it doesn't matter a lot. I only have the problem when someone else claims a number and then adjusts another person to make their claim believable
bazza said on 25/Apr/17
@canson - very honest of you to round down in height from your low, especially if you are hitting 6' 5 at some point in the day. I would at least be claiming 6'4.5 in your position. The truth of the matter is, the vast majority of people in the world are falling between a certain height range and the vast majority will round up. To me this is perfectly reasonable up to half an inch, and in most cases un- noticeable to all but the trained eye. Those people pinching an inch or more are the cheeky ones for me!

I have always had my height pinned at 6' 2 since leaving school. Never been questioned. Indeed, i was measured in the military at 188cm bang on (late morning measurement). That was 15 years ago, coming on this site recently and realising for the first time how much our heights can differ through the day got me thinking so i investigated my height and found i am 188.4 out of bed dropping to just about 188 by lunch time. by 3pm after going for a run about 187.5 and ultimate low late at night 186.9.

Anyway, to me it still seems reasonable to go with being 6'2 seeing as i hold that until lunchtime and at least see that height at some point in the day :-)
Michael R said on 25/Apr/17
How much did you guys grow from 16 to adulthood?
Houss said on 25/Apr/17
In my opinion wearing lifts thicker than 1 inch would look rediculous , i don't like flat shoes especially in winter
Michael R said on 24/Apr/17
In my opinion 178cm is the most desirable height for a women and 188cm for a man. As for height differences in relationships I think 4-5 inches is a good spot maybe a bit more. My girlfriend as of now is about a foot shorter and it is quite awkward.
Michael R said on 24/Apr/17
If your are 180cm at your extreme low you are a solid height for a man and at the start of tallish.
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Apr/17
@ Shiva 181 cms - Hello Shiva! Yes, I had a good weekend, thank you!
My height is officially 5ft2, but realistically only 5ft1! I was measured in 2015 at a medical and was 155cms. The nurse reckoned that converts to 5ft2, but we know otherwise, don't we? 😲
Cheers!
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Apr/17
@ Canary - Hello Canary! I missed that comment of yours! It is always interesting to compare the heights of people from certain different areas of the world and a dairy and meat-rich diet is bound to push up the averages, as proteins are the body's building blocks of life.
The Highlands and Lowlands are a fantastic example of diet-influenced differences because of the close proximity of their locations! That was very enlightening! πŸ‘
G 5'11 said on 24/Apr/17
@Rob hahaha "The Big G Model" that's really funny. I think We would all be in shock if we measured 1.5 inches less then our actual height 😱.
Editor Rob: shock can lead to memory loss, just ask your namesake 😨 😨 😨
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Apr/17
@ Canson - Quote: "It would be like me telling my boss I can only come to work and can only work in the morning."

That really is funny! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I catch your drift and I do recall reading Rob's synopsis on going for an average of the varying heights we are in the day!
I also found Peter's (179cm) contribution interesting in saying that 'there is no such thing as "true" height.'
Yes, I have revised my opinion on the matter and agree that it is best to go with our average height as we appear to others throughout the day! It does make a lot of sense! πŸ‘
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
@Michael R: that's about the only way for anyone to tell bobby drops below 5'10". It would have to be someone who is maybe 5'9.5 and honest or 5'10.25. Half inch difference is easier to tell but 1/4" not so much and given how most people inflate heights and measure in the morning and round up or get rounded up by a doctor nobody would even notice him being under 5'10. Key also is if he is wearing some basketball sneakers etc that add 1.25" or so he will look more like 5'11 in shoes. Take the inch off he's looking 5'10. 1/4" isn't that much difference really and if that's his low then he is a decent enough claim of 5'10. However when you say 5'9 and change I would have to say he's about 5'10. 5'9" and change is more like someone measuring where I would or slightly taller than I measure in the 6'4" range maybe 5'9.5 for him would be that
NoReallyShort said on 24/Apr/17
I'm new to this board, even though i've been around this site for few months now, anyways i'm having few questions and topics that i wanted to discuss, and i don't think that i could find better experienced people than around here.

So i measure exactly 178 cm (5ft 10) straight out of bed, and i could go as low as 174 cm (5ft 8.5) at night, is that normal ? i mean i've seen people claiming that they shrink up to 2 cm (0.75 inches) throughout the day, but i keep getting surprised by how much height i lose (its important to note that i lose 3 cm or 1.25 inches on normal days, 4 cm is the lowest i've recorded, and its becoming more frequent).

Also, i'm familiar with a lot of height phenomenons, but i've never found a convincing explanation of why i feel shorter or taller on some days, and i know that its not just an illusion, because i'm self conscious about my height, i keep regularly comparing my height to people, objects and walls, and i could tell if i'm looking above or below my usual eye level.
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
@Michael R: it's odd that someone 6'2" legit at their lowest feels short. Which causes us to be suspicious. I feel a legit solid 6'2" is very tall and if they have a footwear advantage on me I will not be able to see much over their heads at 194cm (of course it's gonna have to be a high footwear advantage). But a 6'3" guy who is at his low I have a close friend who is and I don't always look that much taller and in fact if a pic is taken and angles reveresed he can look taller

@JCJ: thanks!! And funny you mention because at 12-12.5 I was about 5'8" myself. I hit 6'0" that summer right before I turned 13 and at 14 entering high school was about 6'2.5. I hit 6'4" my junior or senior year and maybe grew a fraction right around the end of my senior year or early freshman year somewhere in there. I know once I was measured playing ball in college at 6'4.75 and that was an early measurement so likely that hair since it was long played a role as I've almost consistently been 6'4.5 or 6'4 3/8 since. It all boils down to genes. My dad is 6'4" barefoot and my mom is 5'5". My sister is 5'8 and I'm 6'4 and sum change. We got our height from our father as opposed to our mother.
Canary said on 24/Apr/17
@Nik: It's not hard to understand when you consider, for example, the great prenatal care in the Netherlands. That's in addition to a long list of life quality traits that lead to good health and long life. Dutch people experience better environments than many, if not most, people in our countries. Their population is less diverse too, and that plays a big role in height differences.

I could be wrong about male height differences, but I think that I said that they were around two or so inches. I notice male heights more than male height disparities. I'm much more interested in female height discrepancies. I'm more accurate in my assessment of them.
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
Sandy and Bobby have to disagree there. Average lile afternoon is more accurate height. Morning is not its inflated. The height you walk around at normally (5 hrs on in) is accurate enough but nothing more
18Teen said on 24/Apr/17
After much thought I've concluded that 6'1 (185-6 to be more specific) is the ideal height. You're 8-9 inches taller than the average woman. The 99% for female height is 178 cm in the United States. So you by definition tower over (3 inches is towering over someone) 99% of women, and most reasonable women taller than that will see 6'1 as a solid height. A solid 6'1 stands out as tall in a crowd, but not to the point that it's overbearing. I don't believe for a second that the average male height is 178 for men in the United States. It's probably 176 at best because self-reported studies are filled with exaggerations, and many of the measured height studies have subjects wear slippers! My best friend is 191-2 cm tall (he's 17!) and at 6'3 he looms over most folks. it's a bit too much for my tastes, and not to mention that he probably doesn't receive much more social privledge than the 185-6 man. Not to mention that clothes doesn't fit as well because he's taller than 99% of humans.

A 6'1 man gets the social privileges of being tall (but not overly so) and enjoying a lanky aesthetic look without being gangly to the point where it's hard to put muscle on his frame. He fits into cars, planes, and trains because builders take someone of his size into account. With the right shoes and hair style his vertical profile is probably around 6'3. There's always going to be someone taller, but more is not always better. And that's the case with 6'1, more height after that point is not beneficial. 185/6 cm is perfection! The only real contender might be 6'2, but more is not always better (as stated before)

And considering my lack of facial hair and late blooming, I hope I reach it during college!
Nik said on 24/Apr/17
@Johan

Ok sorry for that, I have read what you said and you are correct. It's the standard of living that matters and it does not have to go hand in hand with having the richest multinational companies, often the richest can afford the best things but it doesn't have to be like that. I certainly never thought that the Netherlands was a poor country, I knew it was one of the richer countries. If healthy living is a way of life then that is all credit to the Dutch.

πŸ‘
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 24/Apr/17
@Connor 6ft
how tall were your parents?
c-mo said on 24/Apr/17
bobby is 5'10

anybody who says anything else is just being autistic . period
Nik said on 24/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

I think that your peak height was about 5'2.5" - 5'3", wasn't it? If you had a diet rich in dairy products when you were growing up then you probably did reach your potential height! I will tell you the only time you can relax and know in all probability that your height isn't going to change is between about the ages of 21 and 40 for males and between about the ages of 16 and 40 for females, before you have finished growing you may worry about whether you are going to end up as tall as you possibly can be and as tall as you want to be, then when you are over 40 there is shrinkage to worry about!
Yes I agree that the right diet will help today's youngsters become as tall as they possibly can be.
Yes it's incredible how quickly the comments end up getting to the bottom of this page at the moment! When I first came on the "General Height" page it could perhaps take a few months for comments to disappear from the page, now it's only just over a week until they vanish! A lot of people are congregating on this page at the moment!
The rise in the height of Dutch women, which has seen them go from being worldwide one of the shortest nations in the 1600's to nearly the tallest, or the tallest, women in the world today is remarkable, I really would want to know the reasons for this because there are richer countries in the world than Holland. I want to know why Dutch women happen to consume more dairy rich products than women from other countries in the world. Are there other reasons for Dutch women now becoming on average the tallest, or second tallest, nation in the world for women? Also I would like to know why has Holland gone from being a country with so much poverty in the 17th century to one where living standards are high now. I would be interested in your take on everything that I have said and what other people think as well.

Cheers Sandy!
The Dude said on 24/Apr/17
Hi Rob, how tall you think Saffiya Khan measures up against the five-foot-at-best Tommy Robinson?

Gotta help me on this, an american conservative here.
No Rino. I shouldn't be asking this, but I got greatly impressed her corageous defence of other person . Plus Tommy Robinson is a waste of man.
(Not condemning his ideas nor making apology of Islam, but what is fair is fair.)
Editor Rob: I don't have much to look at, a clip of a woman and a quite short guy, she might be 5ft 6...
Gunner said on 24/Apr/17
Rob, do you think Tomas Pustina had larger, thicker and bigger hands than those of Big Show??Click Here
Editor Rob: yes Gunner, I think he had more noticeably larger hands.
Arthur said on 24/Apr/17
Hahaha right Connor, I am the one who cries. My memory serves a bit differently. Cause I remember an incident with a vest and you getting very upset. I dont really want to say more. πŸ™‚

@Bobby
pleas stop saying 5'9.7-6(!!!!!!!!)- Can't you just say 5'9.75?????πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚Are that complexed???? If you don't want to say 5'9.75 please just say 5'10. Oh please.πŸ˜‚ 5'9.76 is so damn insecure. Your extreme low is 5'9.65 by the way, don't forget that!
Bobby said on 24/Apr/17
@G 5'11, Yeah, and since most people do that, it's not exactly lying either. I mean, "Oh, you're rounding up 1/4 of an inch? That's reasonable." People can't see the difference either, which is why they round up at these particular figures.
Michael R said on 24/Apr/17
Connor should post a morning height measurement to end all arguments. Just like Bobby posted a morning video that shows he is not a legit 5'10.
Also for the people with lower shoulder levels I suggest doing weight workouts as they can buff and raise your shoulders a bit
Bobby said on 24/Apr/17
@Michael R, I'll explain it to you, when I was 16 years old, I went in for the usual checkup at the doctor as is legally required until you hit legal adult age. She measured me on the stadiometer, I still had my shoes on and so she said 5'11, accounted for the footwear and said I was 5'10. I distinctly remember hearing this, people have praised me for my good memory, so I'm not making things up. So after going through some more growth at 17, I'm thinking "I must be 5'11.5 to 6ft, by now." Keep in mind I never measured myself, most people will receive a measurement at the doctor and just stick to what they are told. Whether that's 5'7 or 6'2. So, for the longest time, I'm thinking I've gotta be 6ft tall, I certainly have never felt short, or average. So to answer your question, it was not insecurity, it was genuine belief. I also don't edit my info on Facebook very often, since I hardly go on it except to participate in comic book discussions and what have you. So yes, I am 5'10 Michael. With your stats, you should be claiming 6'2. With mine, I can claim a flat 5'10. It's not unreasonable. I hope this clears it up for you.
@QLD, I don't have enough information to answer that, record your height after 6 hours (You'll hit your low by then), and then from there, you can figure out what your afternoon height will most likely be. Mine is between 5'9 and 7/8s and 5'10 for the afternoon, which is why I claim the height.
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 24/Apr/17
@Editor Rob
Connor at almost 6'1 :---)
It's as likely as you measuring a proper 5ft 8.75 in the morning haha
Editor Rob: that would mean it was true, considering I regularly measure 5ft 8.75 range against a wall first thing... πŸ‘
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridi said on 24/Apr/17
Rob is there a chance you will meet Tom Cruise and measure his height he might not be 5ft 8in,I wouldn't be surprised if he measured as low as 5ft 6.5in 5ft 7in and pulls off 5ft 7.5in 5ft 8in in lifts Tom Cruise might be shorter people think is there a difference between a true 5ft 8in guy and a pretend 5ft 8in guy who is actually 5ft 6.5in 5ft 7in it's hard to tell a 5ft 6in guy and a 5ft 8in guy apart.
Editor Rob: he won't even talk about height in interviews, so I think the chance of measuring him would be rather slim ;)
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 24/Apr/17
@Nik
A higher national output does not mean that most persons are in the rich sector. In the U.S. only the few Jews are wealthy, maybe super wealthy
... In EU the average is much closer to the peak output-wise.
Another reason might be a different ethnical background in UK/US.
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Apr/17
@ Arthur - If Connor wakes up and could be as much as 6ft0.75, doesn't that make him a strong 6ft? Listen to the Height Master! πŸ˜πŸ‘ŠπŸ˜›
Arthur said on 24/Apr/17
Editor Rob: Arthur, don't make Connor do a morning video, he might be 6ft 0.75 now and make you eat your words 😏 πŸ‘Š πŸ˜›

That's as possible as Bieber measuring 5'10 in the morning πŸ˜› And don't account the 1/8 stadiometer error! 😏
Editor Rob: Connor might have used the model with the corrected bars!

Don't push it Arthur, or I'll measure you on the Big G model, the one that undermeasures you 1.5 inches πŸ˜›
Johan said on 24/Apr/17
@Nik

What makes you think we are poor in comparison to the UK and the US?

The Netherlands always comes above those countries when it comes to quality of life(plenty of studies out there). Our life expectancy is higher and we have a higher average income.

Ah you meant the huge mulitnational companies and rich people? Yes those countries have far more.

As for diet, what I discovered when I travel is that many countries see salad and vegetables as rabbit food? When we eat, we always choose our vegetable first then comes the rest. Its hard to get the food I like when I travel especially England with all that takeaway food. I felt ill after 3 days being there.
G 5'11 said on 24/Apr/17
@Canson because that's just the way it is.
Peter 179cm said on 24/Apr/17
There's no such thing as "true" height... Both morning height and afternoon/evening one can pass as accurate measurements cause no one will bust you out with a SWAT team for claiming sth you are.The same goes with out of bed height and absolute lowest height in general-they are valid measurements no matter the circumstances.It's just that afternoon/evening height is more accurate since it's what you are 90-95% of the day anyway or just slightly above maybe.So in that sense it's a more logical claim if there is one...
Bobby said on 24/Apr/17
@Canary, I want to get it through his head that's I'm only 6mm shorter than a flat 5'10 at night. He doesn't seem to get it. With his stats, he should be claiming 5'10.5.
Csimpson 6ft said on 24/Apr/17
@Arthur nope its fully established and accepted that i am 6 feet and a LEGIT 6ft guy ☺ now go home and cry because you know too well that youre wrong and you cant and dont want to accept the truth, bye bye πŸ‘‹
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
@Arthur: the 5'11 3/4 is connors absolute low I believe just like mine would be just over 6'4". My normal low tho is 6'4.33 and can even see 6'4.25 on other days. As for Connor that makes him around a legit 6'0" guy if that's his absolute low. I agree with most of what you said tho as I don't believe in any height fudging like morning height or in shoes. I do it the same way you do as far as I claim my lowest (normal). Now for me I round down because I don't see fit claiming 6'5" when I'm nowhere near it in the afternoon
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell: thanks but that can't be further from the truth. I don't have any issue with bobby claiming 5'10" but I do not believe in your height out of bed being your true height. I agree with Rob. It makes no sense to claim a height you can't replicate or measure again later in the day. It would be like me telling my boss I can only come to work and can only work in the morning. As for me I am over 6'5" by a smidgeon out of bed but and not much over 6'4 1/4 at night so I logically claim 6'4" as my height because I carry that number for a greater portion 23 hours and 50 minutes or so of the day that I'm in the 6'4" range
179cm said on 23/Apr/17
I wouldn't keep indulging people like french guy. We've established time and time again that this 6 feet plus average is false. We know what the average is - about 177cm

@Kaneff 6'0.25"

Yes, overweight is the norm nowadays. At 192 lbs/179cm I look about average.
Michael R said on 23/Apr/17
Bobby my dad is 5'10.25 night 5'11 morning and say he saw you while playing basketball or something and you said you were 5'10 he could clearly see your a 5'9 man. Almost 5'10. Not a full 70 inches you are 5'9. Even rob had you listed at 5'9 and change and only changed it to please you.
Michael R said on 23/Apr/17
For ice, I have no idea how you feel short, I feel tall in almost every situation at 6'2 in the afternoon. Unless your in the Netherlands in a specific place where there happens to be taller men. As for French guy I can understand a little bit that certain times 6ft can feel shortish in rare very rare circumstances among the youth.
QLD said on 23/Apr/17
@Arthur

If someone measures 178cm an hour out of bed, what should they claim ;)
JCJ said on 23/Apr/17
@Canson,read your post with interest, you seem like a very clued up guy on the height front. A question for you.....My nephew is 12.5 yrs old and is bang on 5'8" he towers over most kids his age. (His Mum is a shade under 5'6" and his dad 5'8". His paternal grandad was around 6' tall. He has been growing at the rate of 4 inches per year since his 10th birthday and begun first signs of puberty around 11. He doesn't seem to be showing any signs of slowing down in height. What is your guess that he might grow to and what was your height at 12-13yrs?
Canary said on 23/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell: I'm the one who mentioned the Dutch diet in a reply to Nik. People, who consume more dairy and more meat, often grow taller. This probably is why Highlanders edged out Lowlanders in the past. It's also why northern Asians were shorter in the past.
Don't know what to claim(5'11) said on 23/Apr/17
Update;

180.5cm at 10pm. Only been awake 11 hours and have not done any exercise or lifting of any kind, so this is generous low. I think my usual low could be bang on 5'11.
G 5'11 said on 23/Apr/17
@Iak a lot of people wear lifts, it's perfectly fine. I occasionally will wear boots or dress shoes even bringing me a decent amount over 6ft. However, you are def taller then me, so you will appear even taller of course. By all means do it! Haha
@Bobby in connection to what you where saying this is true, most people do round up their heights at the nearest whole inch from let's say 1/4th to 1/8th even 1/2th inch. And I would say that's fine if it's from a low or noon measurement. Most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Only on celeb heights is everyone trying to be so precise, which is understandable but nobody in real life is going to say. " oh yeah you're not 6ft you've got to be 5'11 5/8ths" like no one will even bat an eye if you're close enough. And you can also kinda tell based on other people's "honest" claims. At least I can because I'm very obsessed with height. I'll be able to easily walk around point out a legit 5'11,6'2, 6'4 etc. Like it's just a skill some people pickup, not all.
Bobby said on 23/Apr/17
@Arthur, if you wouldn't consider me a liar for claiming 5'10, I don't see why it's a big issue. I'm 9.76 range at my low, and measure 5'9 and 7/8s after 5 hours. I'm a reasonable 5'10 guy. Of course I'm 5'10, I measure that most of the day.
As for my almost 6ft, it's two inches, big deal. 5'10 isn't that much shorter than 6ft, and rather than think of me at my low, think of me at my middle measurement, which will be a flat 5'10, and at worst 5'9 and 7/8s. So what if I look 30, it doesn't change my biological age being only 22.
@Sandy Cowell, it only makes sense, it's what are we are naturally upon awakening. Gravity is applying a force on us to make us shorter at night.
the Slav said on 23/Apr/17
@lak

yes, lak, that is cheating - you will receive an unlimited anount of weapons in GTA V
Michael R said on 23/Apr/17
Bobby I'm sorry man you are 5'9 and change. Not 5'10. And on your facebook you have said you were "exactly 6feet tall" before why are you insecure
184guy said on 23/Apr/17
Rob,whats the problem on not showing more than the 250 recents comments ? Is problem from the server right ?
Editor Rob: for me, I feel it is a big enough amount on anybody's height. I understand some like reading older comments, and for 98% of the site the 250 limit means there is years of comments available, it's just the top 2% that have a big churn.
Don't know what to claim(5'11) said on 23/Apr/17
G 5'11 said on 22/Apr/17
@Don't know what to claim (5'11) well it depends on the scenario if it's a slight round up from a low then that's fine, but if it's a major one where people would notice the difference that's another story. Btw what's your morning and evening height, I think you're a strong 5'11 right?

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Last I checked with hair (very thick hair, no doubt added a few mm's), I was 182.5cm in the morning and around 180.7cm at 11pm-12am. (comfortable 5'11)

I just got my hair buzzed to see what I am without the hair advantage, and three hours out of bed I am 181.3cm. (I predict fresh out of bed I am 181.7cm)
At my extreme low, after coming back from a run and measuring at 1am, I am 180.1cm. Needless to say I am completely devastated I fall under the 5'11 mark at 1am.

In a day I lose around 1.5cm, I have a short torso with long legs and neck. Indeed, my shoulder height is level with many 5'9 people.
Kl said on 23/Apr/17
Rob why people usually say males keep growing till 21 some even say till 25 but on observing people around me most of them are done by 17 or 18 and some even at 16 I grew an inch after 17 I'm currently 6'1 and 18.7 years old sometimes I feel average and other times I feel quite tall I was wondering anything I could do to grow an inch or so to peak at 6'2 or am I done growing by the way my dad is 5'10 and mom is 5'2-3 I grew nearly half inch last year
Editor Rob: technically it is true, but you only have to look at sportsmen to see it is very rare after 21, not as rare 18-21.
shiva 181 cms said on 23/Apr/17
@ Sandy Cowell -thanks,you too have a great weekend
By the way what's your height
shiva 181 cms said on 23/Apr/17
@ Sandy Cowell -thanks,you too have a great weekend
By the way what's your height
shiva 181 cms said on 23/Apr/17
G 5'11 said on 21/Apr/17
@Arthur, you're ridiculous and dillusional lol. First of all, He's literally over 5'10 most of the day until his low. Second of all there's nothing "brag worthy"/significant about standing over "5'10" it's really not that stand out of a height, now if we where talking about 6'1 or even 6'2 then I would understand. 2nd of all how you going to come at bobbys neck ,when you wake up at 5'11 but drop down to about a flat 5'10 or so at your low, therefore you have to claim 5'10. Is that why you are trying to make being "5'10 " something significant. I mean it's not like you're even 6 foot.

Lol booby's over 5'10 most of the time heck he's a touch over 5'10 out of bed , then how could you possibly think He's over 5'10 most of the day ,he would be 5'9.75 most of the day relaxing ,on a hard day he'd be down to 5'9.5
Ice said on 23/Apr/17
@Arthur lol I have a girlfriend . But great way of comming back at my comment with something that has nothing to do with this subject .
Namor said on 23/Apr/17
Hey rob; what's the correct time to measure you're height? is 3 in the Arvo ok?
Editor Rob: the average might be after being awake several hours, so if you want to measure at lunch, I think that's perfectly reasonable.

But we all have a height range, a morning height is a valid measurement, it's just only your partner or the pets see you at that height for a short time.
Nik said on 22/Apr/17
@Canary

I wonder what has caused Holland to go from being a poor country back in the 17th century to one where people are raised in much better environments now? It's interesting how diet has played a huge role in increasing the heights of Dutch women, then why are the Dutch women taller than English and American women when both those countries are richer than Holland? Do the Dutch for some reason bother more about diet than other countries nowadays?

Also I am surprised that there isn't more than an inch difference in the heights of the men from the higher-income and lower-income sections of your city, but I know you are right because you live there. Male height can be very diverse through my experience in England, but situations may not be the same in different cities/countries.

I am a bit guilty if stereotyping Asian people as small ( nothing wrong with that) and I am not a person who usually stereotypes people.

Cheers!
Canary said on 22/Apr/17
@Bobby: You say that you're not concerned or worried about your real height, and most normal agree that you can claim 5'10 as your height. Yet, you always reply to Arthur's posts in which he downgrades your height in efforts to troll you. Why don't you just ignore him when he does this? This whole thing is getting to be very repetitive.
Arthur said on 22/Apr/17
Sorry Sandy. It's fully established and accepted that Connor is a weak 6 feet.
Editor Rob: Arthur, don't make Connor do a morning video, he might be 6ft 0.75 now and make you eat your words 😏 πŸ‘Š πŸ˜›
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridi said on 22/Apr/17
Rob what happen with celebheights when you start to drop below 5ft 8in will you retire or will you like find a taller person to take over like a 6 footer or will carry on with celebs when you like 5ft 7.75 and 5ft 7in.
Editor Rob: I'll certainly try to continue the site as long as I am able and willing. How long that is, well it's anybody's guess.

By the time I drop to 5ft 7.5, it could be 20+ years away...will celebheights still be viable?
Ally182 said on 22/Apr/17
Some of you need to chill. Bobby can claim anything from 176 to 178 cm. He is in that 5'10 range early in the day and with his shoes on he can possibly look 180-181 cm. I'm 183.5-183.8 cm in the morning and 182.2 cm at night (my usual low) and my extreme low is 182 cm, but I claim 6 feet even though I'm almost a full cm shorter than that.
Trent Taylor said on 22/Apr/17
I was shown this blog and thought I would get something off my chest. I am a 5'4" male who is the shortest member in my family, my father was 5'8" and my mother is 5'10" that's right and I have two younger sisters one is
5'11" and the other is 6'1" and if this makes any sense tell me. My present significant other is 5'9" and thinks nothing of adding even more height with
her choice of shoes.
Arthur said on 22/Apr/17
@Bobby

I don't know, I'm just going by the possibilities which are dead against you given your age (you are over 21 I believe) even though you claim your father grew at a late age, that doesn't guarantee anything. Plus, as many have mentioned, you look a lot older than your age (not that it's a bad thing). I personally thought you were in your 30s judging only from your photo. Justin Bieber and Dicaprio are examples of late bloomers who also looked physically underdeveloped for their age, you look overdeveloped.

By the way, at your extreme low, you are 5'9 5/8. That's a textbook definition of a weak 5'10. I honestly WOULDN'T MIND if you claimed 5'10 in real life, I said before I WOULDN'T consider you a liar. BUT, this is celebheights, and every fraction counts, and EVERY celebrity is listed at their low measumerent.

Also, I saw your facebook profile page. Dude, seriously? You have your height in your description as '' 5'10 or Almost 6 feet''. Aside from the fact that it's a lie, ( you are not even 5'10 and you claim almost 6 feet ) even I would never say something like that about myself. It shows way too much insecurity. If you want to lie about your height, just write ''6 feet'' and be done with it. 5'11.5 is almost 6 feet, or maybe at most 5'11 is almost 6 feet, but 5'10 is just 5'10.
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Apr/17
@ Nik - I found your comment centering round Dutch women becoming taller over the years due to a dairy-rich diet very interesting indeed! It gave me a bit of solace that I actually reached my optimum height because I have always had a diet very rich in dairy products, though not things like meat and eggs. This was particularly the case when I was growing up! I hope the youngsters who read that comment take in what is a fantastic tip to reach their maximum possible height - and then maintain it! πŸ‘
It looks as though we've been thinking along the same lines about how quickly the comments pass through on this page! πŸ‘

@ Bobby and Canson - It's great that you agree - brilliant in fact! It's quite logical that your true height (and weight) are the ones you wake up to first thing in the morning. My Dad has a medical background and that's what he has always sworn by. πŸ‘πŸ‘
lak said on 22/Apr/17
rob i've a question , i have a bad posture and i wear lifts of 1 in (standing right under the stadiometre i'm 183cm) is that cheating
Bobby said on 22/Apr/17
I wouldn't be saying I was 5'10 if I dropped to 5'9.25 and even Rob said that it'd be a big roundup at that point. So obviously, if you're like 1/4 or 1/8 off, it's fair to claim the full inch, and some people even do it at 1/2, I used to as well. If I measured 5'11.5 at night for instance, I'd claim 6ft as well, other times I'd say I was a shade under 6ft to be more honest. I like to think that most people are quite honest about their height, and may only be 1/2 off if they're estimating. That's in real life though, on the internet it is different.
grizz said on 22/Apr/17
@Kaneff 6'0.25, I'm not an American and I do not have a warped perception on build. Currently I have the body of Patrick Bateman Click Here with smaller arms and uglier face (unfortunately). I do not have a typical male body-when I gain weight, the last place I gain fat is my waist (I currently have a 76 cm waist at 81 kg) so even with 85 kg I look slender to other people. However, my fat gets stored on my thighs and butt the most, there's that :(
Oh, and I appreciate your kind response :)
G 5'11 said on 22/Apr/17
Oh snap ice is back! The self proclaimed 6'2-6'3 guy who still feels short. And yeah French guy is almost doing the same saying he feels short at 6 ft that's ridiculous.
@Don't know what to claim (5'11) well it depends on the scenario if it's a slight round up from a low then that's fine, but if it's a major one where people would notice the difference that's another story. Btw what's your morning and evening height, I think you're a strong 5'11 right?
G 5'11 said on 22/Apr/17
@Arthur, well I remember how you where always coming at everyone here. In the morning I'm sure we are the same because I've measured 5'11.25 before out of bed, even slightly over couple times it depends on how many hours of sleep I get but I never dropped below 5'10.5 and actually the other day got 5'10.75 even at like 7/8 pm. And that's because that guy thought he was taller and kept trying to make some kind of point that he was taller then bobby at his lowest lol. πŸ˜‚
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 22/Apr/17
JKE 168cm said on 20/Apr/17
176.5 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN)

Stop it!!!! Bobby is clearly has the right to claim 5ft 10 and he edges you out

You'd get the shock of your life if I'd face him ;) I'll eat my hat if ...
Canson said on 22/Apr/17
@Christian: I do claim it sometimes 6'4.5 meaning. You're right it's close enough. But being I drop lower than the 3/8 to a solid 1/3" I say 6'4 and change. Some days even 1/4" that I come down to. Difference with me vs Connor is he is closer to 6'0" than I am to 6'5 and Rampage said it once that not a lot of people claim 1/2" until this generation (I actually used to hear a lot of people say they're 5'11 1/2 but that was to make themselves sound 6'00). I don't always claim it just because I always get why don't you round up to 6'5" I don't consider myself 6'5" and at my height don't need any more of a boost really (I'm content). In addition it's a matter of I have taller friends who don't round up or claim the 1/2". I have a friend who is more your height or even a hair taller. DOEsnt drop below 196.3-.4 usually and he himself never claims the half very tall guys don't always claim it I've noticed
HonestSlovene said on 22/Apr/17
@J-181/182 Average in the UK is more or less the same as in France (about 177-178 cm), maybe nearer 179 cm for youths so 183 cm is still weak tall range.
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Apr/17
Shiva 181cm - Hello Shiva! Thanks for your reply! I'm glad it's fully established and accepted that Connor is a full 6ft! All this 'weak 6ft' and 'strong 6ft' terminology is something I have only become familiar with since coming to this website! Yes, it makes a great deal of sense that the taller among us lose more height in a day; I hope that means that I hardly lose any! Some chance of that!
Isn't this a busy page? It's a great thing that this website exists because it is all too clear that a lot of people have height worries!
I hope you have an enjoyable weekend Shiva! Cheers!
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Apr/17
Shiva 181cm - Hello Shiva! Thanks for your reply! I'm glad it's fully established and accepted that Connor is a full 6ft! All this 'weak 6ft' and 'strong 6ft' terminology is something I have only become familiar with since coming to this website! Yes, it makes a great deal of sense that the taller among us lose more height in a day; I hope that means that I hardly lose any! Some chance of that!
Isn't this a busy page? It's a great thing that this website exists because it is all too clear that a lot of people have height worries!
I hope you have an enjoyable weekend Shiva! Cheers!
Nik said on 22/Apr/17
It's unbelievable that the bottom of this page shows postings from as recent as the 13th March and today it is the 22nd March. There must be a massive amount of traffic on this page at the moment, for some days there seems like a never ending supply of comments!
Editor Rob: yes, this free for all page does get the most comments.
Bobby said on 21/Apr/17
@G 5'11, I'm also surprised he even gave you a hard time. I mean, why would anybody go around claiming their low, when they can claim their afternoon height? If you're only 1/4 of an inch off, that's practically invisible. Furthermore, most people will also round up at 1/2, and that's not unreasonable either, math teaches us to do that anyway.
Bobby said on 21/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell, that's what I think as well, your out of bed height is your true height anyway. The spine is like a spring, if I apply a force on it to compress it, using my own hands, the spring's height will shrink but that's not the spring's true height. Once I release the force I'm exerting, it will decompress to its full length. Same principle applies with the spine. I claim my 5'10, and I don't lose sleep over it either.
@G 5'11, he's some kind of height troll/height police. I guarantee if I was even a decimetre off 5'10, he'd come in with his microscope and call me a liar even then.
@Arthur, how do you know King Arthur? My dad received another inch while still in his 20s, hereditary predicts I will follow suit. I also do know what it feels like to be above 5'10, I'm roughly 5'10.5 in the morning after all. Just because you edge me out, doesn't mean I'm any less of a 5'10 guy.
Canson said on 21/Apr/17
@G 5'11": I partially agree with you. It's ok to claim whatever you measure because people can say what they want. Just remember that you do lose height throughout the day so that number will not stick if its your out of bed or morning rounded up. I only say this because you get that a lot of times a guy who is 6'3.5-.75 an hour out of bed and claims 6'4". Then inflates a legit 6'4" person who may only measure bang on 6'4" at their lowest. Meaning they're a full maybe 3/4" taller than they inflate them. Even with me I get guys who I'm a full inch or maybe slightly more taller than claiming 6'4" that could be shoes or even morning heights
Canary said on 21/Apr/17
@Nik: I live in the Midwest. My community is between a big city and a small town in size. It's mostly white, but it's more diverse than it was in the past. I noticed a change during the past few years.

Dutch girls were tiny in the 1600s, and Dutch people were the shortest people in Europe back then. Things, like poverty and war, caused this. Dutch women are much taller now because they are raised in much better environments. Their diets, rich in dairy products, played a huge role.

Yes, it's unexpected to find taller Asian women and shorter white women. It's not unusual to find tall people in northern China, so the stereotype of short Asians often goes too far. Young South Koreans certainly aren't short, and Japanese girls' heights are steadily increasing. Nurture plays a greater role than nature, except in some southeastern Asian countries.

I don't notice the exact same kind of height disparities between men. They're close in both the higher-income and lower-income sections, but there might be a disparity of an inch or so. I'm more interested in females' heights, so that might affect my observations. I also work with tiny younger women.
Canson said on 21/Apr/17
You all have to remember that Arthur is Telling the truth here and being specific. They fall below the amount as they said. It's no need to bash him for speaking his mind and saying that. You don't see anyone doing that to people who use their morning height and think it's ok or round it up. It's always to someone that they feel downgrades.

Now. That said as far as Connor and Bobby go: them saying 5'10 and 6'0" is more than fair and very honest as they are well close enough at their lowest. All Arthur is saying is that they don't measure the full number at their lowest which is a true statement. That's far different from what they can actually claim and considering most people round as it is it is perfectly legit. It's really much ado about nothing
Canson said on 21/Apr/17
Bobby I agree with Sandy on that. Unless you were like 5'9.25 or something maybe a bit lower Or hair higher It's fine. I don't round up but because I'm not close enough to 6'5 only .33 and can come down lower than that to .25-.3 easily at night some days (nor do I care at this stage as 6'4" is plenty tall). And as I have said many times it's a damn number a claim that's all it is. People will have their own opinion of how tall you are regardless of what you tell them that's a fact.
the Slav said on 21/Apr/17
@french guy

I must admit I feel super dominated here in Denmark since average height for young males is 198 cm, milk prices have decreased by 67% causing severe inflation and I have no idea what Im talking about
6'1-6'1.5 Guy said on 21/Apr/17
french guy m said on 21/Apr/17
I have observed height for 2 weeks and I still believe the average height for young men is 185 cm
185 cm seems to be the most common height
180 cm is short even at 183 cm I feel short
190 cm and 195 are common heights.
175.cm is rather common too but looks very short sometimes , especially at university
I think if you are not atleast average , you will never be always happy , no matter where you live .

In fact, you are mistaken, the average height for the younger generation is 6'1.5-6'2.5 (187-189 cm), sounds more believable ;)
Arthur said on 21/Apr/17
G 5'11 said on 21/Apr/17
@Bobby Arthur has to give everybody a hard time, including me he tried telling me before that somebody could call me a 5'10.5 guy even though that's my ultimate low, most people will see me as around 5'11 for most of the day.

Yeah. Most people will see you as 5'11. Most, not all. So some other people could see you as 5'10.5. What can you not understand? Hell you just said there's been people estimating you at 5'7/8 JESUS CHRIST! Either these ''people'' are 5 year olds or you aren't really a weak 5'11. The least I have been guessed is 5'9 and the most 6'1. 5'7 is just insane
Arthur said on 21/Apr/17
Ice said on 21/Apr/17
@Arthur and I am 10 cm taller than you . How does that feel ?


Feels as good as not being a virgin πŸ˜‰
Kaneff 6'0.25 said on 21/Apr/17
@grizz

No offense but many people especially Americans have a warped perception of what a healthy weight is nowadays. 180lbs at 6'0" isn't skinny by any means it's just normal and probably aesthetically ideal if you lift and have low body fat. I find it laughable that anyone would be worried about your health at 180lbs they are probably just jealous. Most guys who are 190-200lbs at 6'0" are skinny-fat with a dad bod (20%+ body fat) unless they're a bodybuilder and are in great shape which the majority aren't.

Also 165 lbs at 6'2" is thin but it's a perfectly healthy and normal weight. It's possible to have a Brad Pitt Fight Club-esque physique at that size so tbh I don't get why your colleague would get made fun of. Now somebody like Peter Crouch who is 165lbs at 6'7.5", that is what I would consider too skinny. I mean I get what you're saying though 6'1-6'1.5 guy would probably look better if he gained 15-20lbs muscle, as would I, but I just think you are exaggerating a bit in your post.
G 5'11 said on 21/Apr/17
@Arthur, you're ridiculous and dillusional lol. First of all, He's literally over 5'10 most of the day until his low. Second of all there's nothing "brag worthy"/significant about standing over "5'10" it's really not that stand out of a height, now if we where talking about 6'1 or even 6'2 then I would understand. 2nd of all how you going to come at bobbys neck ,when you wake up at 5'11 but drop down to about a flat 5'10 or so at your low, therefore you have to claim 5'10. Is that why you are trying to make being "5'10 " something significant. I mean it's not like you're even 6 foot.
Derrick said on 21/Apr/17
Will girls be put off if they discover a 6ft man using height insole to get to 6ft2 when he is barefooted or will he be able to get away with it since he's already tall?
Arthur said on 21/Apr/17
@the Slav

Don't get bothered with french guy, he is just a dying meme trying to resurrect himself but it's too late! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

@Canson

No, Connor's lowest is 5'11.75 (so he claims). His usual lowest is 5'11 7/8. πŸ™‚
Arthur said on 21/Apr/17
@G 5'11
I am not being rude. Bobby said to one guy that he is taller than him, that's why I answered him that I am taller than Bobby respectively.

By the way G, since your lowest height range is 5'10.5-5'10.75 and mine is 5'10-5'10.25 indeed you edge me out, BUT, I think that in the morning I am taller than you, since I have woken as high as 181 cm. So I am taller than you too or at least the same height as you, in the morning ;)
Peter 179cm said on 21/Apr/17
@ the Slav Exactly my thoughts when i read that lool!
Thomas6ft1 said on 21/Apr/17
he Slav said on 20/Apr/17
french guy m said on 20/Apr/17
How can you be dominant when you are only 183 cm ?
Most guys my age are between 185-192 cm , I feel short most of the time


God, not this crap again

french guy has been at it for at least 2 years+ now. Its really really sad and patbwtic.
Don't know what to claim (5'11) said on 21/Apr/17
Claim what you are, no need to round up or down.
Bobby said on 21/Apr/17
@JCJ, For your stats, it's still reasonable to say 5'9 considering you wake up at roughly 5'9.5.
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 21/Apr/17
Canson said on 20/Apr/17
If 5'11 7/8 is connor's lowest height he is a legit 6'0". He won't look any different than one. Really 1/8" isn't easy to tell and nothing an insole etc can't fix and actually make him a strong 6'0 at least look it. If you're 3/4" or below an argument can be made but for Connor there really is none that he isn't 6'0" tall.

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Canson, you're 6'4 3/8" at your lowest, so do you consider yourself a legit 6'4.5"? I don't see anything wrong with claiming 6'4.5", since 6'4 3/8" is closer to it than a flat 6'4".
J-181/182 said on 21/Apr/17
@french guy m
If you base dominance on height then there's something wrong right there and 185 is in the 91st percentile in the uk as an average dunno how it is in France but must be similar if not more
183 is tallish a legit strong 6 footer will feel tall especially here in the uk and I believe the average in France is about an inch shorter than the uks 5'10 perhaps it's even 5'8 making that range even more rare in France
Nik said on 21/Apr/17
@the Slav

Yes he's back!
Nik said on 21/Apr/17
@Canary

Out of interest could you tell me the name of the City that you come from please?

You mean Dutch women were once ranked as being some of the shortest women in the world? Do you know the reason for the Dutch women going from being only the size of today's Indonesian women to being as tall as they are nowadays? You say the Asian women from the higher-income area of town are not much taller on average than the white women from the lower-income area of town, it's still interesting that the Asian women are indeed taller than the white women though isn't it!?

Do you find similar patterns with the height of men in the different areas of your City? What would you say the average height is for men in the higher-income area? What is the average height for men in the lower-income area?

Cheers!
Sandy Cowell said on 21/Apr/17
@ Connor - You're most welcome!

@ Bobby - That's really stupid as well! Ignore them and claim your full 5ft10, because that's your proper height. I wouldn't dream of putting my last-thing-at-night height as my height EVER! Not just because it would be rather gruesome, but because I don't believe it's my height, apart from once in a blue moon and only under extreme circumstances!
Ice said on 21/Apr/17
@Arthur and I am 10 cm taller than you . How does that feel ?
G 5'11 said on 21/Apr/17
@Bobby Arthur has to give everybody a hard time, including me he tried telling me before that somebody could call me a 5'10.5 guy even though that's my ultimate low, most people will see me as around 5'11 for most of the day.
shiva 181 cms said on 21/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell ,Connor is 6' tall yes I agree, yes he should claim 6' but waking at 6'0.5 would make him more or less a weak 6' guy, a strong 6' would definitely wake up at 6'0.75 or 6'1 an ,if he loses just 1/2"(which I think is rare for a guy around 6' ) from out of bed to low then he's a legit 6'
G 5'11 said on 21/Apr/17
@J181-182 that's because a lot of people lie about their own height, yeah whether they are insecure or not is debatable. They also underestimate/over estimate. As I've gotten estimates as low as 5'7-5'8 and even some over 6 foot when I'm a weak 5'11. Yeah no ones going to call you out for a slight round up. Now let's say I said " I am 6'1 or 6'2" then some people would look at me like I must be some illegal drugs or something.
@Bobby yea these height trolls are just about everywhere you look, Arthur is trying to get across his point that it must be a federal offense if you round up a small fraction from your lowest lol. But I can't tell you how many times I've heard people overexagerrate worse.
Arthur said on 21/Apr/17
@french guy m

Lol, no one cares about what you say anymore french guy, you are outdated. Sorry, but I'm the new sherriff around these parts ;)
Arthur said on 21/Apr/17
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@G 5'11, I'm also one of those rare few who have managed to grow 0.3 inches in the past year. Don't reckon I'm done growing yet, I might be able to squeeze out another inch at some point.

LOL! Yeah, keep dreaming buddy! You will never know what it feels like to always stand above 5'10. 5'9 3/4 is all you get for the rest of your life (though I believe you will drop down to 5'9.5 at a real extreme low, but anyway)
grizz said on 21/Apr/17
6'1-6'1.5, dude,seriously gain some weight. By some I mean serious amount of weight. My ex-gf had your weight @5'8 and she had a slender physique.
A colleague of mine was 6'2 and 165 lbs- girls made fun of him.
I dropped recently to 180lbs (6') and half a dozen people were worries about my health. And they aren't fat people, one of my friends is a professional athlete (slightly shorter but same weight) and he insists I should gain 10 lbs. And he's one of the few people that can tell other people straight to face that they are overweight (so that you don't think that he encourages overweight movement).
Maintain caloric suficit, eat at least 1.5g of protein on 2 lbs of your lean mass and lift weights.
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french guy m said on 21/Apr/17
I have observed height for 2 weeks and I still believe the average height for young men is 185 cm
185 cm seems to be the most common height
180 cm is short even at 183 cm I feel short
190 cm and 195 are common heights.
175.cm is rather common too but looks very short sometimes , especially at university
I think if you are not atleast average , you will never be always happy , no matter where you live .
Bobby183.5cm said on 21/Apr/17
Personally, I think 173cm+ and 183cm+ is tall for both men and women respectively.
179cm said on 20/Apr/17
Michael R said on 17/Apr/17
Bobby and csimpson both need to spend days where they only sleep 4-5 hours, have minimal hydration and do intense gym workouts and lifting of weights. Then after being on your feet for 12 hours you will see you drop an inch at least from your morning. So for you Bobby you would be 5'9.3 under such circumstances or even a bit lower, and Connor would be around 5'11 and a half under such. Under such circumstances myself being up for 16 hours and doing multiple workouts with only moderate hydration and poor nights sleep before found I can drop to 6'1.25 and the next day after a good nights rest and some water throughout the night recharge to 6'2.5

That's just daft. What else, do you have to weigh yourself at night after drinking several bottles of water?
179cm said on 20/Apr/17
Arthur said on 20/Apr/17
But you know, since we can claim every single valid measurement we get, Bobby could take his morning height in shoes, so he would be ''almost 5'11.5'' and maybe round it up a little bit and claim 6 feet. That's as valid as claiming 5'10 when he is 176.9 cm. Lol.

No, that's where you're wrong. You can justify claiming 5'10" if 176.9cm is your height without shoes. Height with shoes on is false. So rounding up your height with shoes on can not be justified. They really are not the same thing.
the Slav said on 20/Apr/17
french guy m said on 20/Apr/17
How can you be dominant when you are only 183 cm ?
Most guys my age are between 185-192 cm , I feel short most of the time


God, not this crap again
Canson said on 20/Apr/17
If 5'11 7/8 is connor's lowest height he is a legit 6'0". He won't look any different than one. Really 1/8" isn't easy to tell and nothing an insole etc can't fix and actually make him a strong 6'0 at least look it. If you're 3/4" or below an argument can be made but for Connor there really is none that he isn't 6'0" tall.
Kaneff 6'0.25 said on 20/Apr/17
@Arthur

Connor is a legit 6ft. Not every 6 footer is going to laser measure exactly 6'0.00" at night it's okay to be 1/8" under or over and claim a height. Look at a ruler and you'll see how insignificant 1/8" is. Case closed.
JKE 168cm said on 20/Apr/17
176.5 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN)

Stop it!!!! Bobby is clearly has the right to claim 5ft 10 and he edges you out
JCJ said on 20/Apr/17
Rob, straight out of bed I'm 176.5cm, after a 15 hour day I'm down to 174.6cm. Do I gain entry into the 5ft 9 club? Haha!
Canary said on 20/Apr/17
@Nik: Some of my friends, who played basketball and volleyball with me, are close to my height. I rarely see women around my height, even in the upper-income section of town. I work in a managerial position. It's in the lower-income section of town, and many of my female colleagues live there.

The Asian women might be an inch or more taller than the white women. It's not a huge difference. It's just that you find some Asian women who dwarf and tower many white women. On a historical note along these lines, past Dutch girls once were the size of present Indonesian girls.
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell, you should see the backlash I'm getting about my 5'10 claim even though I only fall 6 millimetres under at night.
Kaneff 6'0.25 said on 20/Apr/17
@6'1-6'1.5 Guy

That is a BMI of 19 which is quite light but still in the lower limit of healthy range. I don't think it would be a good idea to be any lower than that, though. I'm an inch shorter than you and weigh 140lbs which is also a 19 BMI. I'm healthy at my weight it's just hard for me to gain mass because of my thin frame and ectomorph build.
G 5'11 said on 20/Apr/17
@Es claim either almost 6'2 or go with 6'2. Or if you want to be really precise say 6'1.5"
G 5'11 said on 20/Apr/17
@Bobby I know exactly how tall that guy is though he posts a lot on here he says he's around 6 foot, honestly true but you still can tell there's approximately 2.25-2.5 inches of difference in that picture. That's why I'm saying he looks a weak 5 ft 10. Sure we won't know exactly unless we met them both in person and measured them. But that's cool how you're still growing, I wish I could grow a little bit more.
@6'1-6'1.5 guy yes that's a bit skinny, you weigh less then me and you got me beat by a solid 2 or so inches. You should be at least 160-170 for that height.
@Arthur man why you always being rude? Who cares that you're taller then bobby and I'm taller then you and then we got the other 6'+guys who are taller then all of us lmfao there's always going to be someone taller unless you're like 7'5"!
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN), very well, I'll humour you.

Max peak out of bed: 178.57cm
Normal evening/night low: 177.2cm
Bare minimum (extreme conditions): 176.9cm.
Csimpson 6ft said on 20/Apr/17
Exactly Sandy thanks for sticking up for me
Kaneff 6'0.25" said on 20/Apr/17
@Es

you can claim 6'1.5"/187cm
Csimpson 6ft said on 20/Apr/17
@Arthur no i know too deeply that i am a legit 6fter
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@Arthur, arguing that Connor isn't a legit 6ft because he's 1/8 of an inch under at his low is just ridiculous. If I was 1mm under 6ft at night, you'd still argue I wasn't six foot. You're obsessed about height really, arguing over insignificant details that mean nothing in the real world. Who's gonna care that I'm 6mm under 5'10 at my low? Who's gonna care that Connor is 3-4mm under 6ft at his low? Nobody. Worthless details, they mean nothing. It's a negligible difference. Nothing wrong with claiming afternoon height, it's a valid height.
@Canary, they're height obsessed, very annoying.
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@Arthur, I am still 5'10, so get over it. I only lose 1.3cm on average still measured 5'10 after 4 hours, and 5'9 and 7/8s after 5 hours. At the end of the day, I will measure 9.76 range. Yes, you're taller than I am, but I can still say I am reasonably 5'10.
@Peter 179cm, no, I lose 1.3cm, that's still within 0.5 inches, and for the record, weight has nothing to do with height loss throughout the day either. I'm 200lbs but I'm not overweight, I've got good posture and a strong back. Considering my low is 177.2cm, don't you think, that in the afternoon, I will measure a flat 5'10? I'm claiming my afternoon height, please understand that.
@G 5'11, he's a height troll if I've ever seen one, I'm over 5'10 in the morning, just a touch under 179cm actually, and I only lose 1.3cm. I call myself a textbook 5'10 because I go 1/4 of an inch under. If Rob doesn't see the issue with rounding up and claiming 5'10, I don't see why everybody else does. 5'11.5 would be a great height, maybe if I do stretching exercises, I can manage 5'10.5 in the morning.
J-181/182 said on 20/Apr/17
@Arthur You are taking this way to seriously this is what's wrong with people that are insecure about height

Let him claim what he wants it's not like 1-2 cm is noticeable I constantly get told I'm 6'1 or 6 got even though I'm a strong 5'11 height is scewed in society today many people 5'10 claim 6 foot I'm sure he will be fine rounding up and same for Conor but it shouldn't even matter the fact is big rob knows it's something small and petty weak 6 foot is still 6 foot visa Versa

You seem insecure for being a average height kind of dude have a snicker
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cowboy said on 20/Apr/17
I can't believe we are arguing again about who is taller than who. No one cares, your all about 5'10 and if you were standing together side by side you would all be guessed at 5'9 to 5'10 and considered average height. I think it's ok to claim 1/2 inch heights but no one is going to say I'm 5'9 and 3/4 nighttime. Just say your 5'9 and a half that way if a legit 5'10-5'10 1/2 is around he won't bust you out on your claim. Also morning height is not legit, your going to lose a half inch just in the first hour of being up if your on your feet the whole time.
lak said on 20/Apr/17
Bobby , i'm 186cm with footwear and 183cm barefeet at night not more
G 5'11 , my brother is 178cm exactly not more not less ,i measured him
FiveNine i'm more than 5'11".5 you can see it here Click Here
Sandy Cowell said on 20/Apr/17
@ Shiva - Hi Shiva! I can't think of anyone who has put himself and his height measuring under more scrutiny than Connor! I wonder how many celebrities have done the same and, though they may dip marginally below 6ft in extreme sleep-deprived and very active situations, don't hesitate to claim 6ft and even marginally more. By that I mean the most they are ever measured at, fresh out of bed!
Connor does have every right to claim a full 6ft! I would not say this for the good of my health!
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 20/Apr/17
@Bobby
You change from day to day! Now please type in your stats (use cms/mms) and stick to it!!
Max peak out of bed:
Normal evening/night low:
Bare minimum (extreme conditions):
Canson said on 20/Apr/17
@Shiva: yea that's extreme there. He probably can even pass for 6'6" to some if he measured AM against someone else. Safe to say he's got me by an inch. That's why I claim 6'4 even tho I measure a little under 196 out of bed I'm a hair under 194 at night. I don't want to put people like that in a situation as i know they don't lie up. As for your friend 6'5" is a desired height by many. It's not bad really. Maybe he hadn't been measured or didn't believe it or maybe he downplayed it. I met a guy who had to have been a full or weak 6'6" that said once "well I say I'm 6'5 but I'm really closer to 6'6". He slouched badly too and then said he's 6'5 1/2 but he looked 6'6" imho and I round down from a normal low day of 6'4.33 and he still looked 1.5" taller than me 4cm or so. Now a long time ago it wasn't but today it is by many guys (the Rock is one of them lol). He's a good height. However that's where the line draws to the end. 6'6 barefoot is not desired height imho. 196 and 197 is right there to where you can still live comfortably even in a regular shoe. it's tall but it's not unbearable. But push comes to shove I'd much rather be 6'4" than 6'5" just because I'm a practical person who has back problems so partly why I claim the way I do too not to mention that I believe in claiming what you keasure the easiest and most frequent and I'm 6'4" range the entire day essentially sans about 10 minutes in the morning maybe.
Canson said on 20/Apr/17
@Christian: and for me I don't want to keep the streak going and trend going where it looks devalued lol. I did claim both 6'5" before and 6'4.5. For me my dad is 6'4" so if I'm next to him it's quite obvious and have taller friends who don't round up either so 6'4" is. But in my case I like 6'4" as I'm accustomed to it and I know taller guys one of which is your height 196.4cm thereabouts when I claim 6'5" it inflates him. Most of those guys don't want to be any taller and in my case I really don't either as I'm not using it for pro ball. It's just a number to me.
Michael R said on 20/Apr/17
@shiva in the 8th grade I was 5'2 or 5'3 now I'm heading into 11th
6'1-6'1.5 Guy said on 20/Apr/17
Gyus, 6'1.25-6'1.8 (186-187.7)/145 Ibs -it's really light weight ?
french guy m said on 20/Apr/17
How can you be dominant when you are only 183 cm ?
Most guys my age are between 185-192 cm , I feel short most of the time
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@G 5'11, I'm also one of those rare few who have managed to grow 0.3 inches in the past year. Don't reckon I'm done growing yet, I might be able to squeeze out another inch at some point.
Bobby said on 20/Apr/17
@G 5'11, we can't say for sure whether he's a weak 5'10 or not, because we only a see height difference from the collar and up, unless we saw an actual full body picture, showing a height difference, we wouldn't know. Furthermore, we'd have to know how tall one of them was. Pictures aren't a good judge of height because angles can distort or throw off a person's actual measured height. You're better off judging height in person.
Arthur said on 20/Apr/17
@Sally

Thank you Sally. It is certainly preferable that all men carrying it are close in height. But that almost never happens.
This year only myself and another friend were nearly the same height at 5'10. The two other guys were 6'0 and 5'7/8.
Arthur said on 20/Apr/17
Pretty much everyone here agrees that Connor isn't a legitimate 6 footer but a weak one. Only reason Rob lists him at 6 even is so that Connor doesn't get upset. I don't think we should discuss Connor's height anymore, we all know he isn't a legit 6 footer and he knows it too deeply, that's why he always states his height when he gets a chance and asks all the cupboard and 6 foot related questions. He is almost 6 foot, he should be happy and embrace his height which is still a good height. There is no more reason to argue.

@Booby

And, I, am taller than you. How do you feel about that? My EXTREME low, which is 178.0 cm, is nearly 1 cm taller than your USUAL low. And if we take morning heights, I am exactly 2 cm taller than you.

But you know, since we can claim every single valid measurement we get, Bobby could take his morning height in shoes, so he would be ''almost 5'11.5'' and maybe round it up a little bit and claim 6 feet. That's as valid as claiming 5'10 when he is 176.9 cm. Lol.

You are ''almost 5'10'', I am ''5'10 and change'', get over it Bobby.
the Slav said on 20/Apr/17
I wake up at 185 and my usual low is 182.8.
I can drop to 182.5-182.6 as well - I classify myself as a weak/solid 6 foot
Nik said on 20/Apr/17
@Canary

You have made some interesting points concerning the heights of women in different American regions. How often do you see women that are your height or taller? From your previous posts I have picked up on the fact that you come into contact with a lot of tiny women! Have you got any friends that are taller than you?

It is also fascinating that in your city the Asian women from the higher income areas can tower over the white women from lower income areas, it shows that like you said income levels are a much bigger pointer to height than anything else, where you live anyway. In your city would you say that on average Asian women from higher income areas are taller than white women from lower income areas?
Es said on 19/Apr/17
Rob, I wake up 188 and go to bed at 186.5cm , what height in ft should i claim
G 5'11 said on 19/Apr/17
@Michael R okay you're taller then both of them though, your tall in general get over it. If I was your height I would care about claiming my absolute low, as you're a good few inches taller then I am.
@177 cm, yeah seriously what's your problem? Why are you trying to see if you'd be able to edge Bobby in person? He's 5'10 you're under 5'10 so he's going to be taller. And so what if he looks 30, I look like I'm 16 and I'm 21. Someone on here even though I was a kid.. I get that quite often curse my baby face.
@Bobby and yeah true, sometimes at my lowest I can drop to 5'10.5 other times I've gotten 5'10.75 it really depends, Ima keep doing these stretches and what not see if I can notice any increases even if its reaching a higher then usual low. I would love to be a strong 5'11/ weak 6ft. *Sigh*
Canary said on 19/Apr/17
@Bobby & Canson: It really is fine to claim your high or your low as your height. The arguments here sound borderline autistic, to tell the truth. Bobby, you're definitely 5'10. Maybe it's time to ignore certain people and talk about other things since no one (in the real world) would argue with you.
Leo2001 said on 19/Apr/17
@mr x 6ft flat or 183cm
insomniak said on 19/Apr/17
Thanks Sally, yes I can say it's enjoyable to be tall, although their are some setbacks but ultimately I think being tall is a unique and fun life experience.it's intriguing to know you're son is a good bit taller than me I don't know anyone taller let alone a 6'8 guy. Do you know if he's still growing seeing as he's my age and I'm still growing.
Peter 179cm said on 19/Apr/17
@ Bobby You're almost/weak 5'10,get over it.If you want to claim 5'10 fine it's not a big round up but saying you only lose about 1.5cm at 200 pounds which is abit more than i weigh (197 pounds) doesn't sound "right" to me.
Bobby said on 19/Apr/17
@Michael R, on a typical day, that's my mid afternoon range, I measured this after five hours and some minutes actually. I'm not lying by claiming 5'10, because I'll measure it after 4 hours still, keep in mind that I'm 0.3 inches taller than a flat 5'10 in the morning. Besides, Rob would still list someone at X height if they are X height and 7/8s. For you Michael, you are 6'2 in the afternoon, but you made an extreme low measurement video, what did you think you'd be listed at? If you made an afternoon or morning Measurement, you could request to be listed at a flat 6'2. It's not unrealistic or unreasonanble for you. I could claim my morning height if I wanted to, because it's a valid measurement but I don't.
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shiva 181 cms said on 19/Apr/17
@canson I have an opposite case I have a friend whose a decent 6'5 ranger like christian, he used to claim 6'3 before as He doesn't want to be that tall in other people's minds I asked about his height he said 6'3 I said no you must be at least 6'5 he disagreed and told you don't know how tall 6'3 is, but when I measured him he was roughly 196-196.5cms
shiva 181 cms said on 19/Apr/17
@Michael r you're a lucky guy , since you grew 5 inches b/w 14-15 and 16 yrs ,well I only grew 2-3" every year from 13-15 and from from 15-16 an inch ,16-17 0.5" I'm currently 3 months shy of 18 and hadn't grown since 17 and I'm currently (184cms out of bed -181.5-182 before bed),I'd like to be 6'1at my Lowest

What's your growth spurt and are you still growing
FiveNine said on 19/Apr/17
@House - 5'10 and 5'11.5
Bobby said on 19/Apr/17
@Houss, I'd say you're 6'1 or thereabouts, so 3 inches, more or less. He can certainly still grow at 19, I know I did.

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