General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added mention it on this page.
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french guy m said on 27/May/16
C-mo, here are the main advantages of being tall
:you get not girls
You get more respect
You are stronger
You are superior
You have better wages

There are no advantages being average
Kourosh said on 27/May/16
@c-mo
well from what i felt and saw, i will put Dan at around 5'10 and cormier 5'9 and change.

If i can put it this way is that Daniel was no taller than me, if anything he was about 0.5 shorter to be exact. For Dan, me and him were exact height or at most he was a hair taller.

Dan's Height : Morning 178.8 cm and night 177 cm

Fedor was taller than me about inch or so but no more than that. I will put Fedor 180 cm or 181 cm max.

He is a guy wakes 181 cm and go to bed at around 179 cm

well this is base on my observation dont take it official .


:)

anything else mate.
french guy m said on 27/May/16
C-mo

You are delusional, there is no way short men are stronger than tall men
When I will be 190 cm , I will test my new power on short dudes , and we will see if what you re saying is true
french guy m said on 27/May/16
The best height for man is 190 cm and I will reach that height soon ;)
truth said on 27/May/16
@CS Again, nobody is denying that any height 6ft0+ is on the taller side on the west and solid tall in most countries. However, given the fact that a good chunk of EU countries do infact measure 5ft11-6ft0 for young people, tall would start at least an inch more than usual so at least 6ft1+. The majority still measure around 5ft10/178cm, so 6ft0/183cm to 6ft3/191cm is solid tall range, 6ft/191cm or more is very tall.
Rick said on 27/May/16
Dont call me a troll. I'm just as average as anyone else on this site. @Canson..i would have seen the rapist if he could guarantee more height for me. lol Truth is i wake at 5'7 so i'm not sure what that makes me? I claim 5'10 but i agree its wishful thinking. I think i need help. screw it it's just pathethic. what should i do? I feel if i'm under 5'10 then i'm not a man.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 27/May/16
Saqib, a lot of the celebrities whose height that I'm interested in I've met in person. A few that I'd like to figure out that I haven't met in person:

1. Ryan Reynolds-He has to be at least 189-190 CM. He towers over Seth Rogen. He's one of the few celebrities who downplays their height.
2. Henry Cavill-I've met Ben Affleck who is around 6'2 1/4", so he's the closest reference that I have. I'd guess 6'0 1/2"-6'0 3/4".
3. Ashton Kutcher-6'2"-6'2 1/4" is my guess (with his small head making him appear much taller). I don't buy that he's near 6'3".
4. Ryan Lochte-6'0 1/4"-6'0 1/2". Donovann McNabb who is 6'2 1/4" destroyed his 6'2" claim.

Most of the celebrities that I pay attention height wise are 6'0"+ as I'm 187 CM.
175 cm said on 27/May/16
@grizz
At least 1" after 5-6h if not even more... I lose 7/8th from straight out of bed (7h sleep) until night (average day, no extremes).
Ice said on 27/May/16
@ Crane 193.4 out of bed is a good height , and , make no mistakes , it IS tall . I understand your wish of 6'6 , maybe youll make it , depends how old you are .
Greg said on 26/May/16
I really just read that somebody here said that 193.4 cm isn't tall enough? like that's almost 6'4" I'd love to be around that height, I am barely 180cmish and feel quite short sometimes, when around certain people not compared to the average..
CS said on 26/May/16
The people not realizing how tall a true 6'1 is thing is so true. I'm 5'11 range (right around 181 cm) and whenever I notice my eyes are roughly in line with the end of someone's nose meaning they're about 6'1, I always stand back and think "damn, that person is tall." And not just kinda tall. Solid, legit tall. I think it kind of applies to true 6'0 guys too but 6'1 has an even stronger presence, obviously.
c-mo said on 26/May/16
James B said on 26/May/16

Live quite near London actually

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that explains it somewhat ...many indians , pakistanis and whatever else are living there and also other people from less developed countries . so yeah you probably tower over some south asians and southeast asians etc...thats it (except the rare caucasian guy here and there who is 5'4 or something)
Ice said on 26/May/16
@ c - mo , youre beeing absoluteley pathetic . Your a short dude who cant handle the fact that beeing tall is a known advantage in fighting , even in lower weightclasses where the height becomes relative . Dont you realize that your "short invincible" fighters have lost as well , and , if you look at their records ; did worse then all the fighters I listed (except Fedor) ? Yea Daniel and Ghokan might not have been stopped , but they LOST , Thats the point Im making . And the only guy who could give Jones a close fight was Gus , who (oh what a suprise) is 6'4 - 6'5 range . Youre just a short guy lying to himself that tall guys are inferior , when its actually turned around . The fighting game has changed , height is becoming more and more important ; even more than it was before . But its hard to argue with a delusional short dude with an inferiority complex .
186cm said on 26/May/16
Rob would you say my height is comfortable tall in most european countries.
Editor Rob: yes, I think in the vast majority you will feel tall, only maybe a few might you feel not much above average.
the Slav said on 26/May/16
I'd take these height statistics with a gran of salt.
I was measured 189 cm with shoes on at my local public service center even though I'm just 183 cm barefoot.
Even that 183.9 cm average height at the Bosnian University seems unlikely
french guy said on 26/May/16
what is the true average height in Norway: 179.7-180 cm (conscripts measured) or 181 cm ( growth chart)
James B said on 26/May/16
Arch Stanton said on 26/May/16
It's still hard to believe that almost 6 ft 1 could be an AVERAGE height, when the average man in the UK is four inches shorter., even among younger generation.


Yeah people don't realise how tall a true 6'1 is since 182cm guys claim it
James B said on 26/May/16
mo said on 26/May/16
James B said on 25/May/16
C-mo I am not trolling

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then you must be living in Indonesia , Cambodia or somewhere where people are very short on average . in the western world there is 0% chance of you towering over men at 171-172cm except very very rarely


Live quite near London actually
CS said on 26/May/16
@Johan @Saqib I agree with all of your choices.
truth said on 26/May/16
@grizz Would you say the average for young people is shorter or taller there?
c-mo said on 26/May/16
Kourosh said on 25/May/16
@c-mo
yes that came out surprising for me when i see them in real life not on TV. I was looking to Daniel eyes when he was talking to other people, Dan Henderson was about my height maybe a hair difference. Consider that i am 5'10 with shoes on and just over 5'9 barefoot evening (176cm)


Daniel 176-177 cm
Dan 177-178 Cm

I thought i would be towered by Bisping from watching him on TV, but back in Australia when i met him last year , i did not feel short at all standing next to him . :)

Bisping was 5'11.5 to 6'0 Max no more

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thanks for your answer . we are of similar height I am 178.4cm or so out of bed and 176cm at night

a few more questions to you : how close were Dainel Cormier / Dan Henderson / Fedor when you saw them ? were they close to you where you could compare their heights with yours ? and what shoes did they wear and what shoes did you wear ? and regarding Dan Henderson what height would you give him out of bed and what height at night ? please take time and answer detailed I am a big fan of Henderson :)
truth said on 26/May/16
@ Arch Stanton According to reliable sources is it not 5ft10/178cm average for young people in the UK and 5ft9.5/177cm overall? That means you would have to be at least 6ft0/183cm to feel tall there, and in the Netherlands at least 6ft3/190cm.
Johan said on 26/May/16
Saqib said on 25/May/16
So guys, which celebrity are you most interested in to find out their real height?

We all try to make our best guesses here but that does not confirm anything. The only way to know their real height is to measure them personally.


I am most interested to know real heights of
1) Brad Pitt
2) Leonardo dicaprio
3) Johnny Depp

First I will give my guesses on those celebs.

1. Pitt - 5'10.5" - 5'10.75" Thats my range for him.
2. Di Caprio - 5'11"-5'11.25" He edges Pitt.
3. Depp - 5'8.75"-5'9" Pretty sure on this one.


My Picks are Arnie, Stallone and Vin Diesel. The first two I am interested in their PEAK and PRESENT height. Drives me mad haha. Vin Diesel is another who is all over the place.

My guesses; 1. Arnie - 6'1" peak, 5'11" current.
2. Sly - 5'9" peak, 5'8" current.
3. Vin Diesel 5'11" - 5'11.25".
grizz said on 26/May/16
@truth, I cannot tell for certain that this Dutch data is "measured", but the one from Bosnia&Herzegovina is. However, it does not represent the whole nation since it's just a measurement taken in university of Banja Luka, so take it with a grain of salt. For all the people claiming that "college costs so only wealthier, hence taller people go there"-stop with that nonsense argument, colleges are state-funded there, you only have to preserve a solid GPA.

@Saqib, thanks for the site, but it's just a fancier representation of height taken from CDC/National Centre for Health Statistics (USA) data. It's only helpful for American folks or guys who coincidentally live in a country with the same average height as in USA.
For instance, if you take average height for youngsters in Banja Luka (183,9 cm) and apply it into US equation, that would mean that only @ 197 cm you'd be statistically tall there (that's 95th percentile-when only 5 out of 100 guys are taller than you), while @191 cm you'd be in the 80th percentile. Basically, if you wanna feel comfortably above average there (70th percentile), you'd have to be at least 188 cm.
c-mo said on 26/May/16
James B said on 25/May/16
C-mo I am not trolling

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then you must be living in Indonesia , Cambodia or somewhere where people are very short on average . in the western world there is 0% chance of you towering over men at 171-172cm except very very rarely
grizz said on 26/May/16
@175 cm, read Slenderman's post carefully - he lost 2 cms in like 5-6 hours. I don't know how much did you expect from him to lose in that period.
truth said on 26/May/16
@175cm

The Dutch population is the tallest in the world and has been
well studied. Before 1955, population height in The Netherlands
was estimated on the basis of data for conscripts, i.e., men, and
nonrandom samples from the population. Between 1955 and
1997, there were four large cross-sectional nationwide growth
studies. These studies showed that young Dutch adults are among
the tallest people in the world, with women MEASURING almost
171cm on average and men 184cm on average in 1997 (4).
french guy m said on 26/May/16
No, dutch children were not followed from birth, they just took small sample for each year
But I still believe the average height is 183 cm
Crane said on 26/May/16
Today is really unexpected! I measured and got 193.4 on the stadio after woke up for 6 hour but still... I'm not happy with my height. What I truly want is to acheive 6'6 + status.
Arch Stanton said on 26/May/16
It's still hard to believe that almost 6 ft 1 could be an AVERAGE height, when the average man in the UK is four inches shorter., even among younger generation.
jenja said on 26/May/16
All you guys saying 6'5 is average in the Netherlands, you probably went out on a day when all the tall dudes were out lol
Kourosh said on 25/May/16
@c-mo
yes that came out surprising for me when i see them in real life not on TV. I was looking to Daniel eyes when he was talking to other people, Dan Henderson was about my height maybe a hair difference. Consider that i am 5'10 with shoes on and just over 5'9 barefoot evening (176cm)


Daniel 176-177 cm
Dan 177-178 Cm

I thought i would be towered by Bisping from watching him on TV, but back in Australia when i met him last year , i did not feel short at all standing next to him . :)

Bisping was 5'11.5 to 6'0 Max no more
175 cm said on 25/May/16
Slenderman said on 24/May/16
@Rob

Yes Rob, and in the morning straight from the bed I am about 217..217.2 like so. In some extra shoes I had, right out of a bed i was meassured 220cm. Otherwise, my real height in the noon is 215.3 cm (meassured with stadiometer, because I play basketball, so we were measured recently).
Editor Rob: it's interesting to see how much height a man of your size can lose, and it's probably not as much as I might have thought!

@Slenderman
Mate either the stadiometer (or whatever) of your basketball club is off or the measurement at your home in the morning! I'd bet my mother that the shrinkage is muuuch more than 17-19mms!!! Did you lounge until training or what?
175 cm said on 25/May/16
@truth
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Netherlands 183.8 cm (6 ft 1⁄2 in) 170.7 cm (5 ft 7 in) 1.08 21 (N= m:74 f:50, SD= m:7.1 cm (3 in) f:6.3 cm (2 1⁄2 in)) 1.5% Self-reported 2009 [93]
They measured 5,811 boys and 6,194 girls 20-21 years of age, is that enough proof for you 175cm?
5,811 boys and 6,194 girls were all birth year courses - from what I read. Not sure whether they could "follow" them over the years or not. Actually it's not mentioned how many 20-21 y/o they measured. Really I'm not sure it reads a bit confused... Especially if wikipedia says self -reported at the very same source.
So finally I'm not convinced yet :( But But in any case thanks for your effort "truth"
James B said on 25/May/16
C-mo I am not trolling
aaa said on 25/May/16
I am 6 feet tall.what is my height according to people who are 6 feet 6 n taller
Editor Rob: from that perspective, most people will look average to short...you might seem average.
andre said on 25/May/16
Rob i'm 5ft5 barefoot and man and yet at this height in Portugal i stand taller then some people how is this possible ?
Editor Rob: there will still be a percentage of the population in the 5ft to 5ft 5 zone, how much I don't know, but if you spent a day paying attention at your local city/town to the men you are bound to find quite a few shorter than 5ft 5.

I see a lot of men sub 5ft 8 in my town.
Saqib said on 25/May/16
So guys, which celebrity are you most interested in to find out their real height?

We all try to make our best guesses here but that does not confirm anything. The only way to know their real height is to measure them personally.


I am most interested to know real heights of
1) Brad Pitt
2) Leonardo dicaprio
3) Johnny Depp


Thats it. I dont care much about the others.
Saqib said on 25/May/16
Wanna know how tall you are?

This is the best site.

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ty said on 25/May/16
Jesus Christ shut the hell up about Rick already. Stop replying to him, simple.He is a troll. Is that really hard to comprehend? It's your fault as well.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 25/May/16
Rob since your nearly in your 40's do you consider the 60's too be old as you get older people in their 30's are like people in their 20's too you people in their teens are like kids too you and kids are like toddlers too you and toddlers are like babies too you when your a baby teens are considered old too you when your a kid 20's are considered old too you when your in teens 30's is considered old too when your in 20's 40's is considered old too you when in your 30's 50's is considered old too you when your in your 40's 60's is considered old too you when your in your 50's 70's considered when your in your 70's 90's is considered old too you.
Editor Rob: yes, height can be relative. If you live to an old age you get to experience a lot of different age ranges.

Sometimes age brings wisdom, but it also brings more physical woes.
ayo said on 25/May/16
I was watching a Youtube video about celebrity heights and their heights were so off. Ie. Harry styles 6'0 etc. What was worse was, 90% of the comments came from 11-13 year olds who claim they are 5'11-6'3 tall already. Lmao.
175.7cm said on 25/May/16
Rob, If i was a celebrity, and i usually get 175.5-175.8 (5'9 1/8 - 5'9 1/4) cm in evenings and 5'9" flat at night. Where would you put me at?
Canson said on 25/May/16
@Luca: I'd call myself 6'2. You only fall a hair below at night and are well over in the morning. In CM just say 188
Canson said on 25/May/16
@Luca: I'd call myself 6'2. You only fall a hair below at night and are well over in the morning. In CM just say 188
Canson said on 25/May/16
Wow Rick. I am impressed with you. You have made major strides with your insecurity!!! I mean you took it upon yourself to now clam 3" over you actual height instead of 3.5". Now if you could get it down to 5'7 (I'd even give you 5'8 respectable). Lol! Maybe a therapist can help there
Canson said on 25/May/16
Wow Rick. I am impressed with you. You have made major strides with your insecurity!!! I mean you took it upon yourself to now clam 3" over you actual height instead of 3.5". Now if you could get it down to 5'7 (I'd even give you 5'8 respectable). Lol! Maybe a therapist can help there
Bobby184cm said on 25/May/16
Hey rob, my night height is 183.5 cm. Can i still claim 184 or should i downgrade myself to 183?
Editor Rob: I would say giving 184cm is perfectly fair because a large chunk of the day you are around it...and for the last 5 hours of the day you creep under it a few mm.
plus said on 25/May/16
@Saqib "Giant" is over 2.00 m but 193 and over are too tall to pass unnoticed. If we talk about a real giant perhaps is more than 200 cm but we can use the word for people who is very tall
c-mo said on 25/May/16
James B said on 24/May/16
This is quite surprising that I am now measuring near 171.5cm 11-12 hours after getting out of bed so I could even be pushing 172cm on a good day.

could explain why i thought it was strange that I towered guys at 5'7-5'7.25 (I originally thought I was only that tall). I guess it's not impossible either that your height can varey in size even at age 26. I have defo stood a bit shorter against that object I measure myself against at certain times.

Quality of sleep you get can probably make you stand stand either taller or shorter as well


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yeah bro you tower over other men at 171-172cm ...okay ;)

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truth said on 25/May/16
I forgot only Denmark at 5ft11/180.4cm.
truth said on 25/May/16
I guess young Dutch men and women measure 183.8cm and 170.7cm respectively, this is from a height study in 2009 that measured the height as the same since 1997, so they are the same height for almost 20 years now and one of the very few countries in the world to have stopped growing (Norway is close to stopping at bang on 181cm for young guys, central Europe is still growing at 178-180cm and the Balkans also at 182-184cm). They measured 5,811 boys and 6,194 girls 20-21 years of age, is that enough proof for you 175cm?

I knew they were a strong 183cm (183.8cm), the thing is I forgot where the figure from that study was, luckily after a quick search I found it.

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Top 10 tallest nations measured noon heights for young people worldwide:

1. Bosnia & Hercegovina: 6ft0.5 (183.9cm)
2. Netherlands: 6ft0.5 (183.8cm)
3. Montenegro: 6ft0.25 (183.2cm)
4. Serbia: 5ft11.5 (182.0cm)
5. Iceland and Sweden: 5ft11.5 (181.5cm)
6. Norway: 5ft11.25 (181.0cm)
7. Finland and Croatia: 5ft11.25 (180.7cm)
8. Germany: 5ft11 (180.6cm)
9. Slovenia and Czech Republic: 5ft11 (180.3cm)
10. Austria: 5ft11 (180.0cm)
Peter 179cm said on 24/May/16
@ Dmax all i know is that the vast majority of men stop growing taller at 16-18 range and women at 14-15 yrs old...Sure it could be a little different for some people,but only on rare cases people hit growth spurts of 2+ inches after turning 17-18 and that's a fact. I for example stopped growing at 16 or 16.5 and was expected to be 4cm taller than im now but sadly i never grew more,so that's that...
Enzo said on 24/May/16
@rob rob I'm 184.5 morning and 182.3 at lowest . 6ft .05 morning and 5ft 11.75 at mid night , would u put me as a 6ft er, like christian bale ?
Editor Rob: you may well be his height twin!
James B said on 24/May/16
This is quite surprising that I am now measuring near 171.5cm 11-12 hours after getting out of bed so I could even be pushing 172cm on a good day.

could explain why i thought it was strange that I towered guys at 5'7-5'7.25 (I originally thought I was only that tall). I guess it's not impossible either that your height can varey in size even at age 26. I have defo stood a bit shorter against that object I measure myself against at certain times.

Quality of sleep you get can probably make you stand stand either taller or shorter as well.
James B said on 24/May/16
Johan- i don't think my friend really likes being 6'4 because once I remarked to him "you must be 6'6" and he then said defensively "no I am 6'4". I know another guy actually who i would 'guess' is 6'3-6'4 and he actually stands out on the street as being exceptionally tall to me. I think that's because though he is more proud of his height and stands very upright when walking (his hairstlye helps to.). Unlike the other guy who slouches at times and is not so proud of his stature.


Me being short for my age range at bang on 5'7.5 I can defnintly understand 'short man syndrome' it pisses me of when I am the smallesr man in a room admittedly. There is something about being tall which gives you a big confidence boost.
James B said on 24/May/16
Johan said on 24/May/16
James B said on 22/May/16
In the UK 5'11.5-6'3 is tall, 6'3.5-6'7.5 very tall.

But what do you label guys 6'8 and over? You can't just say any height between 6'8-8ft is a giant.

Personally I think 7ft-7'3 is 'mega giant range'

Lets take average guy who is 5'10" to him 6'3" is very tall . Taking it from the 6'3" guys point of view 6'8" is very tall so a different bracket. I refer to those guys sitting in the 6'7"-6'10" range as Stand out tall or etremely tall.

They are the kind who really stick out in a crowd to average height people but they still look normal and not freaky big like 7 footers.

Anything 6'11" + to me is a giant but then the guys who are 7'6" + are also in another bracket. The true giants as not many guys reach that height. Tallest guy is Britain is 7'7" for example.



Speaking of looking freaky big I know a guy who is nothing under 6'4 but he doesn't stand out particurley on the street (up close though on even flooring he looks really towering), he just looks like a tall skinny guy but if you glanced at him public you wouldn't think twice. An old school friend of mine who claims "6'6" (not sure if he's truly that tall) stands out on the street as quite freakish which is probably magnified by his hairstlye and lanky frame

I think though it's all subjective since posture,build, footware and hairstlye can make a big difference.
Saqib said on 24/May/16
@plus

I agree. I want to be tall enough to be taller than most people but not too tall that i'll be considered "very tall" or a "giant" and will have problem fitting in cars and finding clothes etc.
This sounds like 6'0-6'1 in my country.
By the way what height is considered a giant according to you?


@rick


I'll never use any sort of shoes or lifts to add extra fake inches to my height. Sounds like a pathetic and embarrassing thing to do. Still surprised knowing how many rich,good looking celebrities like brad pitt,robert downey jr. are insecure about their height and wear lifts.






By the way i want to know if girls are equally worried about height like guys. Wanna know how many posters here are female.
truth said on 24/May/16
@Saqib On average the most you could expect growth at this age is 2cm, unless you are a late bloomer, but even then anything 8cm+ is almost impossible, but 5-6cm is possible. I was around 175cm or 5ft9 at 17, then 176.5cm or 5ft9.5 at 18 and bang on 179cm or 5ft10.5 at 19. All heights measured at 10.30 am. Manage to grow to the end of high school, most guys finish around 17-19 anyway. If you had a growth spurt at 13-14 like me, than you have 2 years max of growth, otherwise if you are a late bloomer and started growing as late as 15-16 or even later, then you can expect to grow till your early 20s.
Slenderman said on 24/May/16
@Rob

Yes Rob, and in the morning straight from the bed I am about 217..217.2 like so. In some extra shoes I had, right out of a bed i was meassured 220cm. Otherwise, my real height in the noon is 215.3 cm (meassured with stadiometer, because I play basketball, so we were measured recently).
Editor Rob: it's interesting to see how much height a man of your size can lose, and it's probably not as much as I might have thought!
grizz said on 24/May/16
@Rob, what do you think of these posture advises? Click Here Are they all correct and effective?
Editor Rob: yes, I think it is decent advice, I don't know about the cord at the end, but the principle of getting your body to naturally hold that state is sound.
Johan said on 24/May/16
James B said on 22/May/16
In the UK 5'11.5-6'3 is tall, 6'3.5-6'7.5 very tall.

But what do you label guys 6'8 and over? You can't just say any height between 6'8-8ft is a giant.

Personally I think 7ft-7'3 is 'mega giant range'

Lets take average guy who is 5'10" to him 6'3" is very tall . Taking it from the 6'3" guys point of view 6'8" is very tall so a different bracket. I refer to those guys sitting in the 6'7"-6'10" range as Stand out tall or etremely tall.

They are the kind who really stick out in a crowd to average height people but they still look normal and not freaky big like 7 footers.

Anything 6'11" + to me is a giant but then the guys who are 7'6" + are also in another bracket. The true giants as not many guys reach that height. Tallest guy is Britain is 7'7" for example.
truth said on 24/May/16
@plus Most people like myself do not want to be "giants", just solid tall people, taller than most but still a common height, 6ft1.5/186.5cm is perfect height.
Dmax said on 24/May/16
@Peter179cm growing a 3 inches amount at 17 is impossible? you really know could never be wrong more was 5'5 at 17 and i grew to 5'7 and now 20....Dennis Rodman grew 1feet at 19 and i know a lot of people that grew during 17-21 age range not everyone stops at 16.Hence @Saqib you have a chance at growing just exercise, sleep more stretch and get as much nutrition possible for you...also don't check your height cause it can cause you to think too much about it.
Jake said on 23/May/16
@Saqib

Yes it's possible. I certainly did.

15th birthday: 6' 0"
16th birthday: 6' 2"
17th birthday: 6' 4"
18th birthday: 6' 6"
19th birthday: 6' 7"
Rick said on 23/May/16
@Saqib
You can do that easily. 1.Get some Nike shocks. 2. leave your shoes on when doctors measure you. 3. raise your heels as much as you can get away with when measured. I've downgraded myself to a flat 5'10 btw. We all can't be 6'2 and claim 6'4-5.
James B said on 23/May/16
rob if the average for 18-30 year olds in the UK is 5'10 range then could that mean 6'1 is the start of tall and 6'5 start of very tall?
Editor Rob: 2 inches above the average I think is probably enough to become the bottom of the tall zone, very tall at 6ft 4 I'd still say.
Slenderman said on 23/May/16
@the Slav

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Door aren't trolling ;)
Door height is around 205 cm..
Editor Rob: Slenderman, have you ever measured your height very first thing in the morning?
James B said on 23/May/16
c-mo said on 19/May/16
@Rampage(-_-_-)Clover

I wouldnt call 175cm "solid average" height . it is weak average and an okay/decent/adequate/not bad height . 173cm is weak short . 178cm is solid average . 182-183cm is weak tall


Yeah 175cm for the young crowd is under average
Verba said on 23/May/16
Hey @Rob

How much cm do dress shoes give you on average, are they on par with steel toe boots?
Editor Rob:
Common shoes seem to have 3/4 or 1 inch soles, plus whatever the insole might give. A low shoe could have 1/2 inch sole, a big shoe near 1.25.

If it was a cuban style dress shoe, those can give 1.5 inch range, but it's obviously thick. In the 70's platform shoes like 1.5-2 inches were a lot more fashionable and common for men.
plus said on 23/May/16
I can say something honestly. I like my height, and I wouldn't change it. I also see something charming in short people, or shortish range or average range... and I feel sadness for some people here wanting to be giants...
jajamen said on 23/May/16
@Saqib

Don't worry you can still grow taller. I grew 4-5 inches 5'9 to 6'2 when I was 18. My problem was my weight. I was 55 kg now I'm 72 kg. Just eat and workout In Mornings and stretch and do that at night
Peter 179cm said on 23/May/16
@Saqib At 17 years old i wouldn't expect you to grow more,maybe if you look younger than your age and still not very mature in terms of growth you could potentially grow
a little more,but stretching never guarantees a growth spurt...You might reach 5'8 until you turn 20 yrs old,but that's it.Your chances of growing a noticeable amount like 3 inches are impossible at your age,IMO...
c-mo said on 23/May/16
Ice said on 22/May/16
@ c - mo riiiight .. 177 cm is a great height for a heavyweight :D quite funny . Just as you listed a ton of fighters that are average height I could list even more who are tall and faired and fair off a lot better than the guys you listed . The Klitchkos (6'6 , 6'7) ? Tyson Fury (6'7) ? Jon Jones (6'4)(all time GOAT who manhandled short - stocky Daniel Cormier) ? Alexsandr Karelin (6'4) ( all time GOAT in Wrestling) , Semmy Schilt (6'11.5) (one of K1 all time greats ) , Badr Hari (6'5.5) ? All tall guys who manhandeled your "invincible" short stocky "big boned" guys .

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I didnt say that 177cm is great for heavyweight sport fighting . I didnt say it is "great" in any way either . it is in general a good height for fighting though

and those guys you listed ....is it a surprise that you have such tall guys in heavyweight division ? no it isnt . of course you will have such tall men . first of all jon jones didnt "manhandle" Cormier ...he just won by points and Cormier did pretty well against him . Klitschkos are a 1 out of 10000000000 case thats why they are where they are and semmy shilt is a freak of nature and even he was beat ....also 184cm Gökhan Saki among others endured with him all rounds and didnt go down

Badr Hari got KOed by 183cm Zabit Samedov and lost to other guys who are shorter than him also

sorry but your arguments suck

the fighters I listed speak for themselves . according to your logic the taller guys should wip off the "shorter" ones and the shorter fighters shouldnt be able to beat taller guy ...but when you compare it is not the case ...in fact many of those I listed absolutely owned many tall fighters

@Kourosh . did you really meet Dan Henderson and Fedor ? wow where ? so Dan Henderson was our height ?
jajamen said on 23/May/16
Click Here

Rob, you reckon Brett favre could be 6'2.25 next to Ryan Reynolds
Editor Rob: he looks an inch taller in the photo
leb said on 22/May/16
I know a 6'5-6'7 15 year old that is still growing rapidly, he has long legs, arms, and a proportionally shorter torso. Do you guys guess he will clear 7' ?
175.7cm said on 22/May/16
@Slenderman.
I don't think a 198cm man should dwarf that much next to a 215 cm man.
James B said on 22/May/16
In the UK 5'11.5-6'3 is tall, 6'3.5-6'7.5 very tall.

But what do you label guys 6'8 and over? You can't just say any height between 6'8-8ft is a giant.

Personally I think 7ft-7'3 is 'mega giant range'
grizz said on 22/May/16
179cm said on 21/May/16
Do people have an actual good reason for wanting to be so tall. With people who want to be like 6'3" so badly it's either because they are obsessed with fighting, or they want to beat other people at something or they think women only like tall men.

Where is an actual non self indulgent reason for wanting to be so tall?
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I'll tell you 1 reason to be tall - you can eat more and (with appropriate amount of workout) look fine. @ around 6ft, if I really want to eat as much as I want to, basically a situation where I never crave for more food, that'd mean 5000 kcal a day (I really exercise a lot, so I need it) and 210 lbs of weight. If I really wanna fit into jeans (and I don't wear slim fit jeans, just regular ones), I mustn't go over 190 lbs, but that also means that I cannot eat more than 3000-3500 kcal a day and this is the moment when I have to pay attention to what I eat.
If I had the same build but with 6'3 frame, I could easily look fit @ 210lbs, fit into slim jeans and with one huge difference- I can eat as much as I want to.

Take this into consideration - a 5'7 guy, no matter how much he tried with pumping pure muscle mass, he'll always look stocky with 200 lbs. On the other hand, equally athletic 6'3 guy will even look lanky with that weight. Look at Michael Phelps - almost 6'3 with 200 lbs. You'd never call him stocky, you might even say that he'd look fine even with added 20 lbs. A 5'7 guy doesn't have that luxury.
Canary said on 22/May/16
@Smash: Thank you. The average height is between 5'5 and 5'6, which supposedly is about an inch over the average for young white American girls. I really think that it depends on the school district, though. FE, if they did measurements in all math classes, some classes might average 5'2-5'3 while others might average 5'6-5'7. I think most would be fairly close to your class.
Dee said on 22/May/16
Dear Rob, I was measured at 184.5cm at around 3pm after a long day of walking around with a bookbag and sitting down slouching in school all day, how tall do you think I am out of bed and how tall I am at night? Can I claim 6'1?
Editor Rob: might be nearly 187cm first thing, claiming 'about 6ft 1' isn't that bad, at worst you drop a bit under it, but it's not like you are 6ft and rounding up to 6ft 1.
Saqib said on 22/May/16
17 yr old 5'7 here. Might try some streches to grow taller. Hopefully i'll reach atleast 5'10 though my aim is 6'0.
James B said on 22/May/16
Rob 2 years ago my brother measured me 170cm against a wall at night
Editor Rob: he might have let the can slip or marked the pencil a bit lower...some brothers can be sneaky like that!
Luca said on 22/May/16
(190,1+187,8)÷2=188,95...So if you were me,what height would you claim?And just a last thing:what do you think about this range of height? Thank you Rob for your answers,you're great!
Kourosh said on 22/May/16
@C-mo

Dan Henderson 180
Daniel Cormier 180
Fedor 182

Absolutely not true,

I met Daniel and Dan Henderson and they were exactly my height . I am 5'9.5 (176cm)
Fedor was about an inch or so taller than me i will give him 5'11.

Roger huerta has been listed 5'8 but when i met him i had easily 2 inches on him . I give him 5'7 and change.

I met Michael Bisping as well. He was around 6'0 max no more. UFC lists him 6'2 so bizarre

these are the only UFC fighters i had a chance to meet.


Anyways i am so light and small for my height i weight only 63 Kg i need to bulk up.
Ice said on 22/May/16
@ c - mo riiiight .. 177 cm is a great height for a heavyweight :D quite funny . Just as you listed a ton of fighters that are average height I could list even more who are tall and faired and fair off a lot better than the guys you listed . The Klitchkos (6'6 , 6'7) ? Tyson Fury (6'7) ? Jon Jones (6'4)(all time GOAT who manhandled short - stocky Daniel Cormier) ? Alexsandr Karelin (6'4) ( all time GOAT in Wrestling) , Semmy Schilt (6'11.5) (one of K1 all time greats ) , Badr Hari (6'5.5) ? All tall guys who manhandeled your "invincible" short stocky "big boned" guys .
plus said on 22/May/16
@Slenderman I guessed right your height too. Look the below messages!
175 cm said on 22/May/16
Congrats Slenderman you're a real giant!

Am I right if I guess you'd like to be shorter?
Johan said on 22/May/16
Hardi said on 21/May/16
I´ve read that if right now in many Europe countries the average male height is 180 cm then it will in 2080 be 193 cm AVERAGE.

I think this is so wrong.

The average here in The Netherlands seems to have peaked at solid 182cm but it is starting to decrease with the younger generation so I don't think anything near 190 cm will ever be possible.

Countries that I believe have a 180 cm or close to it average - Belgium (179cm), Sweden (180-181cm), Denmark (180), Germany (179cm). Most of the other western countries are within 176 -178cm.
Johan said on 22/May/16
175 cm said on 21/May/16
@Johan
Now I write it the second time for you. Truth didn't recognize that the heights were self-reported...


The measured heights were very similar, if i remember correctly it was 1-2 cm max difference. Those heights could be early in the day but for sure it isn't under 181 cm here.

Im 185cm and feel tall unless with guys around 20-40 years who are white. In a big group im average or upper average.

Guys who are under 177cm here get referred to as short on regular basis. Which is normal as it is 4-5 cm shorter than average guy here.

Same as 172-173 guy who lives in the US or UK.
Bobby184cm said on 22/May/16
Rob, is 6'0 the same height category with 6'2?
Editor Rob: 6ft 2 is more in the comfortable tall range, 6ft in many countries is kind of the start of that tall range.
c-mo said on 22/May/16
@John

bro dont get me wrong . I didnt want to insult you or anything and as I said of course being tall has its advantages ..look at Semmy Shilt for example who is 212cm and 133kg ....barely anybody could beat him :D

BUT what I am saying is that the best height for a fighter is where you are well rounded ...meaning where you dont have reach disadvantage because of short height but at the same time you dont loose agility/speed and have a lower center of gravity than someone really tall . according to my observations and experiences the best height for a fighter is 5'11 - 6'0 with a broad built , a little higher than average wingspan and weighing around 95kg (no anabolica and not a bodybuilder body but a few muscles + heavy bones/frame etc.)

I can talk about myself I am around 177cm and my height is very useful for fighting because I have hard pucnhes and against taller guys I can slip well below the punches and come with heavy overhand punches and hooks when I cut the distance (and their longer arms will be at a disadvantage then) but at the same time I have a better reach than short guys . I also weigh a lot ..I am 108kg but I am also overweight right now .. I am fittest at around 85kg or so and too thin when I am below that . but would I be happy to fight a tall and heavy guy over a shorter and thinner guy ? **ck no :D

but as I said many tall guys in daily life are actually skinny and uncoordinated according to my experiences . when you are skinny it doesnt mean that you can not be a good fighter of course but you get what I am saying.

btw. a lot of the best fighters are actually around 180cm and many of them beat many tall guys . and before anybody comes up with the argument "well these are pro fighters" ...well the guys they beat were also pro fighters so this argument doesnt work. and most of these guys fought/fight at heavyweight/light heavyweight division

Dan Henderson - 180cm

Fedor - 182cm

Bas Rutten - 183-185cm

Randy Couture - 182-183cm

I could actually stop here lol seriously ...these 4 guys are enough to make a point but ok lets go on

Mark Hunt - 178cm

Sugar Ray Robinson - 180cm

Ken Shamrock - around 183cm

David Tua - 177 - 178cm

Mike Tyson - 178-179cm

Quinton Jackson - 183cm

Roy Jones Jr - 180cm

Catalin Morosanu - 180 - 182cm (go to youtube and look this guy up he is a beast and **cks up many tall and heavy dudes)

Nicky Holzken - 182cm (dude is a machine)

Daniel Cormier - 180cm

Igor Vovchanchyn - around 173cm ....yeah this guy is not around 180cm but look him up he beat so many guys who are way taller than him ...he is one of the most underrated fighters ever . he was extremely strong

the list goes on and on and on

it is very clear to me that the best height for almost everything in life is around 182-183cm . I said this many times and I will say it again
truth said on 22/May/16
@ Same as you, I grew gradually to about 19. I was also in the middle row on the lower end (178cm, 180cm is average where I am from).
the Slav said on 22/May/16
6'5 is defo not average in Holland. That's still very tall even for a Dutch man
the Slav said on 22/May/16
@Slenderman
Either you're trolling or you're a 7 footer ;). Judging from the picture alone, your friend looks 5'11-6'0 and you look 6'5-6'6
Smash said on 22/May/16
@canary
Just check my maths book and
Found the heights
179cm
171cm
171cm
169cm
168cm
165cm
165cm
165cm
164cm
163cm
158cm
157cm
Smash said on 22/May/16
@slenderman
No way that guy is 198cm, or your 210cm + for that matter. Nowhere near the ceiling. I'm guessing your 188cm Max but maybe even as low as 180cm, and the other dude is between 172 cm to 180cm
Smash said on 22/May/16
@canary
Unsure, There's 12 girls in our class and all I can remeber was two were under 160cm (150 something) and the tallest girl was 179cm.
Luca said on 21/May/16
Dear Rob,I wake up at 190,1 cm and I become 187,8 cm after 18 hours of daily activities... Can I claim to be 189 cm in your opinion?
Editor Rob: at worst you are nearly half inch shorter than your claim, it's not a huge amount. For a proportion of the day you are roughly 189 and maybe the latter half you creep down to that 188. Some people do like to go with the middle value.
Hardi said on 21/May/16
I´ve read that if right now in many Europe countries the average male height is 180 cm then it will in 2080 be 193 cm AVERAGE.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 21/May/16
@Slenderman that dude looks like he is 6'0" at the absolute most, so you're like 6'6"-6'7".
James B said on 21/May/16
Rob measured myself against an object 5-6 hours out of bed and it seems I am a very solid 171cm. This on wooden flooring as well.

Seems like the gym tape measure was slightly off :-)
Editor Rob: yeah there's always a chance that devices used thousands of time end up with slight bends, or they may never have been installed 'to within a mm precision'.
ChuckW said on 21/May/16
Rob: I just measured 184.5 fresh out of bed (bare feet on hard wood floor with a metal measuring tape, 3 times for accuracy) 48 years old. What is an accurate claim for me?
Editor Rob: you sound like a decent 183cm guy, at worst you might drop a bit under...but I'd claim 6ft if I were you.
Dee said on 21/May/16
If I was measured at 184.5cm at around 3pm after a long day of walking around with a bookbag and sitting down slouching in school all day, how tall am I out of bed and before I go to bed? Can I claim 6'1?
FiveNine said on 21/May/16
@Slenderman --> 6'11
175 cm said on 21/May/16
@Johan
Now I write it the second time for you. Truth didn't recognize that the heights were self-reported...
179cm said on 21/May/16
Do people have an actual good reason for wanting to be so tall. With people who want to be like 6'3" so badly it's either because they are obsessed with fighting, or they want to beat other people at something or they think women only like tall men.

Where is an actual non self indulgent reason for wanting to be so tall?
Peter 179cm said on 21/May/16
@ 175cm people in real life overestimate height just as they do with a whole other range of things,it's no secret you know.The average Dutchman is 181-182cm and the average Dutch woman is 168-169cm,but because there are so many very tall people there the average is skewed apparently,so people come up with 6'1 and 5'8 averages for the Netherlands...It's just the human nature :P
John said on 20/May/16
french guy,
Of course by no means do I feel superior for being tall, and I am certainly not invincible. What I mean is simply that to be much taller than your opponent is a great advantage for a fighter. The Mountain is taller than me and far stronger, and even if he is not a fighter he was able to dominate Conor McGregor, one of the best professional fighters in the world. I certainly wouldn't be able to dominate any professional fighter, whatever his size is. What I mean is that height is just an advantage in fighting, especially if the difference of sizes is considerable.

c-mo,
I don't mean I am that stronger than you just for being 6 or 7 inches taller. What I mean is that my size gives me an obvious advange, but there are other elements: weight, strength, speed, agility, reflex, technique, and experience are more important than size. David killed Goliath... just with a stone.
Now as a soldier I am training again and I'm finding difficult to dominate men who are shorter than me, because they are strong and well prepared. It is not that easy, but the fact that I am very tall and strong helps a lot. If I join either the Infantry or the Military Police I must be well prepared for physically demanding situations,
Another problem that I have always had to face is precisely the provocative attitude of people who try to show off and exhibit their courage by fighting someone
much bigger who plays the coward by beating someone much smaller. To be head-and-shoulder taller than the average man is a double-edged sword: you are more intimidating but you can attract problems and you feel responsible for protecting your family and friends, and you find no one to protect you. At ten I was as tall as my 14 year old brother and almost as tall as my father, and one year later I was taller than my father. At 13 I was as taller as you are now.
John said on 20/May/16
Slenderman,

I think you are about 6ft 11 / 2,8m, aprox. If the door behind you is about 6ft 6 tall that makes sense.
Rob said on 20/May/16
I'm 193cm barefoot and I'm almost 19 years. I'm usually the tallest around in my college. It feels good but I'm really skinny and have severe body image issue. I can't wear short sleeve clothes I'm so insecure it's really affecting my grades and my focus in general. I have a very thin bone structure hence why i look really skinny. Is there any advice can give to me get bigger ? Will my bones expand soon? Thanks.
Slenderman said on 20/May/16
@Mat

That guy is legit 198 cm. And my real height is 215 cm, only c-mo guessed my height correctly.

Here are some photos of me, if you suspect in my height

Click Here girl is about 160 cm

Click Here

Click Here cop near me is 178 cm
Ian said on 20/May/16
How tall were you guys throughout school? When I was in primary school (uk) in class photos I'd always be the tallest on the middle row (bit above average) which correlates to the 182 I am now. I was a guy who grew steady never got to enjoy a growth spurt, I reached my final height at 17 and was consistently a bit above average all throughout school.
plus said on 20/May/16
@175 very agree with you. All self reported surveys!!!!! Today I saw a friend of 177 cm tall. I also saw him from the distance. He is tallish in Spain hands down believe me. At least with his thin frame.
Morpheus said on 20/May/16
187cm barefoot after being awake for a few hours is absolute perfection.
Johan said on 20/May/16
truth said on 18/May/16
@Johan I found it by chance :) Click Here So young guys from Holland in the 20-30 age bracket officially measured 182.4cm, who would have thought since people scream here that 180cm is manlet in the Netherlands, despite being average range? XD

So know I have changed my opinion and know young guys in Holland are no more than 182.4cm.

Well done Truth :) Saves me searching for it. Notice that my generation 30-40 years is taller than the younger guys. 182.8cm . So basically 6ft.

I notice this as well thats why I don't get people saying the 90's- 00's generation is taller than those before.

@175 cm

The overall male average is 180.8 cm counting the old guys. I think its quite accurate although I thought myself that 180 cm looks pretty much dead on average here with young guys.
175 cm said on 20/May/16
Slenderman said on 17/May/16
What do you think my height is?

Click Here

Im on the left side in black clothes. Guy near me (in blue shirt) is 198 cm tall...


Let's see how is your perception in terms of height :D

Rifle said on 18/May/16
Rob,
What do think of the claim by some guys that 6'9" is just 'above average' height in Netherlands?

Regards
Editor Rob: It's not a serious argument. The average in Netherlands is near 6ft, so 6ft 1-2 is just above average.

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it seems as if I can not read;)
truth said on 20/May/16
@Slenderman Good lord I have missed that. Then you are most likely 211cm, which is huge man!.
truth said on 20/May/16
@175cm Well ok I must have missed that one. There are several reports which say 181-183cm and I have claimed to be a strong 183cm. It could be 181cm yeah.
@James I feel most of the time bang on average for the general population, only for young people I feel to be slightly below average. Regarding people from the Dinaric alps: Countries of that area (Including Slovenia) average 5ft11/180cm-6ft0/183cm, but I would not be suprised to find certain areas between southeastern BiH, southern Dalmatia and Montenegro to have an 6ft0/183 to 6ft1/185cm average (Dubrovnik, Makarska, Mostar, Split, Nikšič, Sarajevo).

Regarding 5ft11/180cm as a height: It is considered to be solid above average in Italy but pretty much average here. Plenty of guys 175-178cm that claim 180cm will devalue that height and make it sound short and in shorter romanic/eastern european countries and in the UK it will be viewed as average, despite average being 177-178cm MAX in most of Europe. A legit 5ft11/180cm in the afternoon is a very solid height imho.
BSD said on 20/May/16
I'm a fraction over 193cm, in my opinion 6 5+ is when 'tall' becomes unusual or really noticeable - can only speak for the UK though. while i'm taller than the vast majority, and people tend to mention it when we first meet, the difference between me and more common heights, people who are strong 6 1, 6 2, 6 3 ish is not extreme. A lot of my friends are within that range so i don't feel like 6 4 is a height where you tower over people generally. On a typical night out, although most people come up to around my chin, it would be unusual not to see several others my height or taller.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 20/May/16
The average male height in South Korea for ages 20+ was measured at 170.7 CM (which is just under 5'7 1/4". If you deduct an inch for the 50+ people that were measured and have lost height, then that's still no more than 5'8 1/4". Where is everybody getting the 5'11"-6'0" average from?
James said on 19/May/16
@ Smash
Yes, the average height in most western countries is still increasing, albeit at a slow pace.
Canary said on 19/May/16
@Smash: What were the measured heights of the girls in your math class? Sometimes, people forget to include girls and women in their posts.
c-mo said on 19/May/16
@Rampage(-_-_-)Clover

I wouldnt call 175cm "solid average" height . it is weak average and an okay/decent/adequate/not bad height . 173cm is weak short . 178cm is solid average . 182-183cm is weak tall
James B said on 19/May/16
hmmm at the moment the top my head comftably touches an object in my house that I measured at just a couple mmm under 171cm so perhaps I am a solid 5'7.5 (come to think of it I could even pushing 5'7.75 on a good day?) range as opposed to just 5'7-5'7.25 that originally thought I was?

It could explain why no one believe me when I state 5'7 for my height?

My head touches the top of the object 9 hours after getting up.
Mat said on 19/May/16
There's no ****ing way the guy on the right of the picture slenderman posted is 198 cm. Don't be morons. Just look at his proportions.
plus said on 19/May/16
@Slendermen how tall are you? 215 cm? You are a giant even in a basketball court. If a person over 2.10 m pass you by normally people look at them amazed. It draws the attention to me very much. One day I bumped into 2 black African guys. One of 190 cm and the other 210 cm. I felt so rare seeing that giant, he must be the tallest one of my town. It felt so strange I felt like the necessity to say all people I bumped into: hey look at that thing!!! I did not say anything
175 cm said on 19/May/16
Slendermen in which world you're 6'6" hahaha
What's the height of the ceiling, 10ft now way dude. Judgin' from the pic you're definitly under six feet ;)
Peter 179cm said on 19/May/16
@Canson Well i don't think about it that much,except that i know for sure i'm about 181 cm out of bed,then half an hour later or maybe an hour tops im 180cm and for the rest of the day im 179cm range or roughly 178.6-178.8cm after a physically active day.So i normally claim 179 to others and sometimes "round up" to 180cm,even though 99% of people who have guessed my height estimated me atleast 180-181cm and most think im 182-183 range which is pretty much 6'0... But i prefer being honest,it's really not that important since i'm neither too tall nor too short.
Ian said on 19/May/16
@slenderman

haha i think people read this wrong thinking you're the shorter guy. you're about 6'11 range nearing 7' I think.
175 cm said on 19/May/16
Wiki template says they measured 37 guys, it's just ridiculous...

@truth
You have to take into account that "Slenderman" is closer to the cam and has better stance. 5ft 11.5 is still generous.
175 cm said on 19/May/16
@truth I don't know why some of you can't read... it's clearly mentioned: 'reported height'
There's only one measured study for the Netherlands (age group 16-18, caucasian, 2003) with ~181cms.

Rob, why do you accept this 184cms non-sense?
Editor Rob: I said the average was 'near 6ft'
James said on 19/May/16
@truth
Another question, at 178 cm/5'10 do you feel average or below average/shortish in Slovenia among both general population and only young people?
They're people mentioning the "magic number" in Europe is 180 cm. it's like above 180 cm you're average/tall below 180 cm you're short. Do most Europeans see it that way even though the average European man is 178 cm?
If a 178 cm man living in Italy would to state that he is "178 cm" , would most people consider or call him "short" even though he feels average/above average since the magic number is "180 cm"?
What's you're take on this matter?
The Tyger said on 19/May/16
@NikeKaishi

South Korea is definitely taller than most other Asian countries, but they are not averaging 5'11"-6'0" not even close.
James said on 19/May/16
@Truth
I've read an anthropological study on height in the Dinaric Alps. It mentioned that approximately 28% of the measured subjects exceed 190 cm. In comparison, the number of very tall subjects exceeding 190 cm is 5% in U.S., 1.5% in France, 15% in Balkans, 20% in the Netherlands.
I'm also aware that the Dinaric Alps only make up a small portion of the Balkans. It's mentioned that the Dinarics consists of mostly Herzegovinian highlanders. Another study also mentioned an average height of 183.8 cm in Dalmatian Croatia.
Would you say the tallest area/region in the Balkans is in between the Dalmatia Croatia and Herzegovina Highlands.
That's where the tallest people in Balkans are concentrated ?
Nakamura said on 19/May/16
I'm 20, from the UK And i'm 5'11 and i'm still 3/2 inches above the average over here. Even when i go to night clubs i'm still easily 2-3 inches above the average there and that's amongst people my age. Anyone who says the average height is above 6ft in any country is straight up lying even the height surveys that say countries like the netherlands have an average height above 6ft are incomplete(below 10% of the population) and are actually self-reported heights and not measured. 174-180cm I'd say the average range in ALL European countries. If you're 180cm and you feel short in your country then here's a tip for you.... you're not actually 180cm.
Bobby184cm said on 19/May/16
@Slenderman you look kinda tall. Probably around 6'0-6'1-ish.
Canson said on 19/May/16
@Peter179: I agree. Don't know how I feel about morning height tho. I mean if I went and told my boss I could only work in the morning then doubt I'd have a job. Should be the height you measure majority of the day. I feel if you knowingly drop then it should be an average but it's up to the individual. The one issue I have is one someone claims their morning and someone else claims maybe later and the morning measurer tries to inflate the other to make themselves taller
Canson said on 19/May/16
@Peter179: I agree. Don't know how I feel about morning height tho. I mean if I went and told my boss I could only work in the morning then doubt I'd have a job. Should be the height you measure majority of the day. I feel if you knowingly drop then it should be an average but it's up to the individual. The one issue I have is one someone claims their morning and someone else claims maybe later and the morning measurer tries to inflate the other to make themselves taller
c-mo said on 19/May/16
@Slenderman

are you sure that the guy in blue is 198cm ? if yes then you are around 215cm
truth said on 19/May/16
@Slenderman You seem roughly about 6ft1/185cm. Below his eyelevel (12cm or 4.5 inch difference) but slightly over the tip of his nose ( 15cm or 6 inch difference).
Smash said on 19/May/16
Anyone know if average aussie height is still increasing? At my school I reckon the average is well over 5ft 10. I'm 183.5cm or just over 6ft at night, yet I'm probably only just above average at my school. In my maths class we measured everyone's height without shoes and the results for us eight guys were
194cm, 187cm, 186cm, 184cm - mins, 182cm, 180cm, 174cm, 169cm
Could just be my area but I think my generation are gonna be massive
Smash said on 19/May/16
Slender man, I reckon 182 - 187cm
Aaron183cm said on 18/May/16
@NikeKaishi

Most Koreans I see in the US are barely scraping 5'8 let alone 6 foot. When I go to the local Korean food mart I tower over everybody. People who push these 6' averages should try leaving their basements once in a while.
James B said on 18/May/16
What is up with 6ft3 guys claiming 6ft5?
James B said on 18/May/16
In my opinion a legit 6'4 is when someone will start to look freakish tall in my eyes (6'2 and 6'3 guys don't look freakish) but that might be because I am short at 3 inches under average for a young person. If I was 5'10-5'11 I probably wouldn't think 6'4 was all that massive.

For young people 6'4 is 6 inches above average which is still a really big amount.
Chevy said on 18/May/16
Hi rob isn't thepicture of the guy that you just me is a legit 6'6 barefoot right?
Editor Rob: he's 6ft 5 1/4 on stadiometer so really 6ft 5 1/8th against a wall.
Crypto139 said on 18/May/16
@Slenderman You are about 181 cm tall.
Tosco said on 18/May/16
Slender man and his pal need to start lifting weights
truth said on 18/May/16
@Johan I found it by chance :) Click Here So young guys from Holland in the 20-30 age bracket officially measured 182.4cm, who would have thought since people scream here that 180cm is manlet in the Netherlands, despite being average range? XD

So know I have changed my opinion and know young guys in Holland are no more than 182.4cm.
Aaron Zamora said on 18/May/16
Can you notice a 1/4 inch difference between 2 individuals?
Ice said on 18/May/16
@Rick when claiming it Everyone adds 2 inches to their height ? Thats funny . Everyone claims their height in shoes ? Thats even funnier . Add those 2 together and you get a dangerously deluded mind when it comes to height . Its scary .
James said on 18/May/16
@ Slendermen
I would say you're around 211-212 cm.
James said on 18/May/16
@ Nikekaishi
Are you kidding me about South Koreans being taller than westerners? It seems as if you're trying to promote that South Koreans are tall. For Asians, yes they are tall but they're not tall among westerners and are below average compared to US/UK. Without a doubt that the average white guy I see on campus is much taller than the average South Korean. I rarely see South Korean women taller than me but so many white women taller than me.
If you want to present facts, the average in South Korea is 174 cm and U.S./UK is 178 cm hence they're shorter not taller. I see far far more white men over 6 feet than South Korean men.
Hardi said on 18/May/16
Rob, do you know if average height for males means the height in morning, afternoon or evening. E.g. if Netherlands average male height is 184cm, then is it like waking up like that and by evening you should get around 182cm, or is it the afternoon height, so you wake up at 185, 6-7 hours after you are 184 and then evening would be 183, or even evening height so you should wake up at 186 cm?
Editor Rob: it likely isn't an 'out of bed' style height, but more a height after being up a few hours
c-mo said on 18/May/16
John said on 17/May/16
c-mo and french guy
I think that when the difference between two individuals is above one foot or so, provided you have the normal proportions, it is irrealistic to think that size does not matter. When I was a boy I practised different martial arts, always with much older fellows, and at the age of eleven I joined the adults class because I was the size of an adult man. Now it is obvious that even if I do not fight very well I would neutralise any good fighter easily just because i am much taller and bigger then most of them, I've got much longer arms and legs, and an average man would hardly even reach my face. That is why I gave up Karate, Judo and that all. On the beach or on the grass I love 'fighting' with my best friends, my brother and even with my father. Normally I kneel down to fight with them individually, and the fun of it is when they join together 'against' me and i stand up and hold two of them at once and turn them upside down easily, neutralising them all, like little children. It is a game we all enjoy for the fun of exploring precisely the difference of our statures.

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yeah sure my dear troll friend . you dont know anything about fighting like most people on this site who think they will be strong when they are tall lol . unlike you I really have trained in boxing and martial arts for years and have sparred with many guys of different sizes and also know bouncers and fighters personally . I can only laugh at people like you .
Peter 179cm said on 18/May/16
@Slenderman I'm thinking 212-213cm range which is 7 feet!! Dude you're a giant!!
175 cm said on 18/May/16
@Slenderman
5ft 11.5?
Grant said on 18/May/16
@Slenderman
Your prolly between 181-183 cm?
french guy said on 18/May/16
@john

the taller you are, the stronger you are, you get more respect , you feel superior etc...
That's why i'm considering to be taller, c-mo is wrong when he says that 183 cm is the perfect height, i don't even want to argue, it's obvious
I can unsterdand that many consider 185 cm to be the ideal height, atleast you never feel short, and you can compete with the tall guys, but 183 is slightly too short
At 200 cm you are invicible , but c-mo will say that he would beat you, i'm sure he doesn't stand a chance against you because you are 2 meter

Click Here

the mountain, who is 2meter05, easily dominate conor mcgregor who is one of the best fighter in his catergory, dare to tell me that height does not matter for fighting
TJE said on 18/May/16
@Slenderman

212-213 cm/weak 7 footer
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 18/May/16
Rob do men age slower than women i have heard men age slower than women is this true men get better looking at 35 onwords and can look a whole 10 years younger even 14 years younger and women lose their looks at 35 onwords and can look a whole 10 years older even 14 years older do men have less than women do nothing age's you faster than stress.
Editor Rob: it's a topic I've not read too much about, but I'm sure there are some aspects that will effect sexes differently.
truth said on 18/May/16
@James in Slovenia ideal height is slightly shorter, probably 6ft1/185cm to 6ft2/188cm (at least to me and most people I know). Roughly 8% of young people are 6ft3/190cm or more (quite a lot) and 4-5% of overall population male population. In the Balkans slightly more, at least 14-15% I for young people and 10% for the overral population.
James said on 18/May/16
I believe the global average height for young people should be around 175 cm for men and 162 cm for women.
James B said on 18/May/16
Rampage- I think 5'8 for 18-30 year olds in the UK is now considered to be short since its 2 inches under average.
Bobby184cm said on 18/May/16
In my country Malaysia, the average height for male is 5'7. So a 5'10 guy would be considered tall or "low tall."
The Tyger said on 18/May/16
Male:

Short range:
5'5"
5'6"
5'7"
___________
Average range:
5'8"
5'9"
5'10"
___________
Tallish range
5'11"
6'0"
6'1"
___________
Tall range:
6'2"
6'3"
6'4"
truth said on 18/May/16
@ Rampage clover Are you illiterate or something? The chart is for young Dutch men between the ages of 18 and 35.
Rifle said on 18/May/16
Rob,
What do think of the claim by some guys that 6'9" is just 'above average' height in Netherlands?

Regards
Editor Rob: It's not a serious argument. The average in Netherlands is near 6ft, so 6ft 1-2 is just above average.
Peter 179cm said on 18/May/16
I think it's ok if someone prefers to claim his morning height( not out of bed though) or round up to the nearest inch if he's within 0.5 inch or so below it barefoot,but adding 3+ inches like in Rick's case for whatever reasons is really lame and pretending.Also Celebheights is right- there's no wayy the average Dutchman is 195cm,more like 181-182cm night time which is obviously pretty tall as an average figure...
Slenderman said on 17/May/16
What do you think my height is?

Click Here

Im on the left side in black clothes. Guy near me (in blue shirt) is 198 cm tall...


Let's see how is your perception in terms of height :D
John said on 17/May/16
c-mo and french guy
I think that when the difference between two individuals is above one foot or so, provided you have the normal proportions, it is irrealistic to think that size does not matter. When I was a boy I practised different martial arts, always with much older fellows, and at the age of eleven I joined the adults class because I was the size of an adult man. Now it is obvious that even if I do not fight very well I would neutralise any good fighter easily just because i am much taller and bigger then most of them, I've got much longer arms and legs, and an average man would hardly even reach my face. That is why I gave up Karate, Judo and that all. On the beach or on the grass I love 'fighting' with my best friends, my brother and even with my father. Normally I kneel down to fight with them individually, and the fun of it is when they join together 'against' me and i stand up and hold two of them at once and turn them upside down easily, neutralising them all, like little children. It is a game we all enjoy for the fun of exploring precisely the difference of our statures.
NikeKaishi said on 17/May/16
How tall are the south-koreans in your country? In the Netherlands they are slightly shorter than the natives so around 5'11-6'. Most Koreans are surprised to feel short because usually in other "short" countries like the US/UK/etc they are considered tall to very tall.
Mat said on 17/May/16
This page needs to be shut down. The comments here give me eye cancer
Editor Rob: don't take some of the comments too seriously on this page, there's a lot of JR Hartley's around the web.
Chevy said on 17/May/16
Hi rob can you show me a picture of what a legit 6'5 barefoot man look like?
Editor Rob: remember the guy from The height challenge, he is 6ft 5 and 1/8th basically...
plus said on 17/May/16
@james yes @Dee Yes. You think you are taller but you are not. People underestimate height. You don't know how tall a 6 feet guy is. So you are figuring out heights with people lying about them... just make marks in the wall and you will find out that heights are taller of what we think
Canson said on 17/May/16
@Rick: quit saying everyone lies because they don't. Number 2: shoes aren't part of your body. And you don't wear the Shocks every day I guarantee it
James said on 17/May/16
@Truth
What would you say the ideal male height in Slovenia?
How common are men over 6'3 (190 cm) ?
Jedi Master 5'11 said on 17/May/16
My eye level is typically between 5'7-5'8, my hair tends to brush 6'0'' without shoes but more accurately I'm a tad bit over 5'11.5'' the moment i wake up. I said this before on a diff page: My eye level is about (172 cm) 5'7.72", eyelids at 5'8.5"ish. (174cm), Maybe less. so my eye level is about 5'8''. Im guessing the eye itself is about 2cm. My dad is about 5'9 from old age, but 5'10 at his peak. I can see the top of his forehead. At the end of the day he looks about 5'7'' though.

Btw there's an argument on the Chris Evans (Captain America) page downgrading him all the way to 5'10.5''.
truth said on 17/May/16
@Feaud People from 1st world countries are without a doubt taller than people from 3rd world or 2nd world countries. They tend to both inflate heights, but I think there does not seem to be that much of a difference, at most 2.5in/6cm. So 5ft10/177.8cm in the west and 5ft7.5/171.5cm in the rest of the world would be legit (roughly). Average seems to range from 5ft5/165cm as the shortest (Indonesia, Vietnam) to 6ft0/183cm at the tallest (Netherlands, Montenegro).
James B said on 17/May/16
Rob I made that point about cancer though because you don't hear about a lot of short male celebrities who die of cancer do you? It's usually the ones who are average height or tall.

I mean have there been any cancer scares for people like dustin Hoffman or Al Pacino? I think once you get over 5'9 your cancer risk rapidly increases but that's just my assumption of course.
Editor Rob: you'd need to do a study, I'm sure someone could get a PhD examining the link between cancer occurrences and the height of celebrities...
175 cm said on 17/May/16
What I'm interested in is the average IQ of users on this thread.
James B said on 17/May/16
Measured my dress shoes at just a small fraction over 3cm. So when i go out to clubs there not given me that much of a height boost compared to timberlands that give you 4cm. So a person who walks around with timbs would be 1.5 inches over there barefoot height.
Bobby184cm said on 17/May/16
Rob, if you're 175 and 173 out and before bed respectively, then why don't you claim 174 which is your average instead of 173?
Editor Rob: I'm not really 175...the stadiometer adds an extra few mm's to any measurement.
I can be close to 175 first thing...by 8.30am around 174 and by 10am 173.5 and by lunch nearer 173.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 17/May/16
@Truth:179-180cm is upper-end of average, certainly NOT below average and 178cm is NOT in the short range at all, nor is 175cm for that matter. Those are solid average heights. 173cm you could argue is below average but not quite in that short zone. Anything below 170cm you could call short for a male. 180-182cm is that bridge between average and tall but I wouldn't automatically brand it tall. 183cm (evening/before bed) is officially the start of tall. 186-187cm just above average? funny guy...that's a little more than centimetre below 6ft2. That's well within the tall zone and some consider "perfect male height", tall but not ridiculously towering. You can noticed for your height. 188cm is where you can start to stand out, 190-193cm even more so,you'll be taller than most males. Start of very tall. 194cm+ is towering, where you'll start being the tallest in a fairly large group about 60-70% of the time. I think 200cm+ is where you might run into problems
Johan said on 17/May/16
Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 13/May/16
The average height in the Netherlands is definitely not 6'5"-6'7". It's certainly not as high as 6'1" either. 5'11 1/2" alone is extremely tall for an average height.


Exactly celebheights, people have no idea in general how tall heights actually look.

How many times have you see a 5'8" guy claim 5'10" and get away with it? Same goes for 5'11" and 6'0" some even go for 6'1".

Im a smidge under 6'1" barefoot ( no nike shox in this case just to be clear. ) and I have had guys claim im 6'2" - 6'3".

And its deeply ingrained into society because even when you claim your actual height some people do not want to believe you. It doesn't compute, they see 185 cm as being a 180-182cm guy tops and so when someone is honest it throws everything off.

I was at a party on Sunday with my family for a babyborrel ( its a drink for the birth of a baby here) and i noticed one tall guy who i recognized. He used to be a footballer in first division here and what struck me first is he wasn't as tall as listed. He is down as 193 cm and to me looked nothing over 190 cm. Only 37-38 years old now so I doubt he has lost anything.

The lying is everywhere and thats what makes this site so great.

I will have a look for the Dutch national statistics, it was posted here a month or two back.

Again it was Men - 182 cm average and Women - 169cm average. Not self reported but measured.

Its an average that doesn't mean every guy you see will be around that height. You have the extremely tall guys here who most likely affect that average to some extent. Most students I see during the day are around 179-181cm. The white guys ofc. Then you have our immigrant population who are much shorter.
James B said on 17/May/16
Rob does it surprise you that even at an average height like 5ft10 you can be more at risk of developing cancer?
Editor Rob: I think there is a lot of factors that might be factors with cancer.

If you did a study with enough people and asked enough questions and took all sorts of measurements, you could publish studies that showed clear links...you know, stuff like those with a moustache were 20% more likely to die of a heart attack, or those with size 5 feet are 30% more likely to die in an accident.

Surprising statistics can be sourced from large samples of data and made to be alarmist in nature.
James said on 17/May/16
@Plus
Would you say these averages are accurate.
Portugal: 174 cm
Spain: 175 cm
Andorra: 176 cm
France: 177 cm
There are people saying average for France is 178 cm but if that's the case then Spain is more than 175 cm. If Spain is 175 cm then France couldn't be more than 177 cm. France is also a shorter country than the UK at 178 cm.
Usually two neighboring countries have very similar heights. Of course they're exceptions such as Belgium and the Netherlands.
MD said on 17/May/16
This page has become an utter mess of nonsense.
Feaud said on 17/May/16
Its odd, in most western countries heights seem to be inflated by quite a bit. Most men in third world countries that claim to be 170cm are as tall as men in western countries claiming 178cm. Or perhaps thrid world countries measure with unaccurate systems.
Ireland said on 17/May/16
@truth 180 - 185cm average in Holland? Perhaps for women. At your weak 179cm you would not be able to determine heights of 2 dutchmen, since they would tower over you at an easy 6'5.
179cm said on 17/May/16
Ireland said on 13/May/16
179cm if you really are 179 cm you will feel like a dwarf in Holland, when taking a walk you will see mothers pushing strollers towering over you. Its just the way it is, at 180 cm I will feel the same as you.

Notice that whenever people make these absurd claims like '6'2" is 'king of the manlets' in Holland, they really don't have the evidence to back it up. The only evidence they ever point to is 'I saw these women who were 6 feet plus' or 'I saw these group of guys who were 6'8". Well maybe I saw a group of guys only 5'10" in Holland or women pushing strollers only 5'4".

It's just this tendency people have to exaggerate and only focus on the really tall people rather than looking at people in general.
179cm said on 17/May/16
Alexander said on 13/May/16
@179cm, why are you going against your previous statment? "I agree with you that 6'1 - 6'2 is average in Germany since I've been there. The average among Dutchmen is probably around 6'5." Please decide on your opinions first before arguing against a point.

What? I certainly never said that. I'm one of the ones arguing against those ludicrous claims. Average in Germany = around 5'11", average in the Netherlands - around 6'0". I can assure you I never argued anything higher than those figures.
Rory said on 17/May/16
@James yh that's a sensible suggestion, remove anyone non white and non Dutch from the Dutch national average height as they don't count....lol.
truth said on 17/May/16
@James Yes people from the Balkans are quite taller than other Europeans (that is a fact), but I would hardly call them "giants", since the average young European is pretty tall himself and no more than 4-5cm shorter than them. The official figures for Croatia say that the average for young people is 180.7cm and those measurements were done in 2012 in Dalmatia on the island of Rab. Also only 1/3 of Slovenia is in the Balkans (I am not from that part) and the majority of Croatian land is also not. The only true Balkan countries are Bosnia&Hercegovina/Serbia/Montenegro and average is roughly 182.0cm to 183.9cm there for young people, so the same or slightly shorter than the Dutch. Slovenes and Croat people usually think of themselves as central Europeans though.
truth said on 17/May/16
@James This is the classic argument that I hear a lot about immigration lowering the average. I would say it is mostly not true since roughly 80% of population are Dutch + there are a lot of immigrants from EU that keep the average high up (people from former Yugoslavia, Polish, German etc.). Also I think roughly about 7 cm (1 standard deviation from the mean) is ideal height. So in Holland that would be 6ft3/190cm for young guys, 6ft2.5/189cm for the overall population.
plus said on 17/May/16
I doubt Koreans are over 5'7 in average. No way they are 174 cm tall. I have met Koreans and Japanese guys and they are shorter than South Europeans
Rick said on 16/May/16
add 2 inches(everyone does) + 1 1/2 inch for nike shocks = 5'10 1/2. It's not like i'm claiming something extreme like 6' 1
aq said on 16/May/16
Can you guys not see that Rick is a troll? Just ignore him and stop replying to him, he should vanish if he has any self respect for his miserable insecure life.
Dee said on 16/May/16
Are doctors height measurements accurate? I was measured at 184.5 cm on the stadiometer today but I don't believe it. I tower over most people I meet. Everyone I know thinks Im 6'2-6'3. Plus I have a few friends who are around my height that claim 6'2-6'3, If I'm really 6'0.5 then I guess they are around that range too. I still believe Im 6'1.5-6'2ish though.
plus said on 16/May/16
Well it doesn't matter race. Only people born and raisef in the country is enough
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius said on 16/May/16
Rob how much have you accomplished have you accomplished lot of things before the age of 40 are you thinking of slowing down now your almost 40 or will continue too do more YouTube videos and meet celebs and having photos taken with them.
Editor Rob: running a site like this isn't a sit back and click a few buttons...it really is like a job. You have various aspects to it like programming, design, obtaining content, research, writing, moderating etc.

I would like to do more videos but it is on the backburner just now. I'll continue to meet actors, although I am not a person who likes travel, or queuing :)
Suwaga said on 16/May/16
Hey @Rob

Measured myself out of bed in the morning at 189cm, so how tall am I really and is that, generally speaking, considered tall?
Editor Rob: yes, you might fall down to about 187cm or so, but that's still a tall height.

Your 189 is a valid measurement, it's just by the time you are out the door for work you'll have probably shrank to 188cm and by afternoon could be closer to 187 range, so anywhere in 187 or 188 you could say to people...or if you like giving a morning height, I'd always tell people 'in the morning'.

Those who might not know they are taller may well go and check their own height...
Canson said on 16/May/16
@James: I honestly think Rick is bipolar. He has now claimed 4 heights (even if his word is true and someone else posted him as 5'5). He has said 5'6.5, 5'7, 5'10 and 5'10.5. And now the 5'7 is a morning height? Lol Rick you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper and opening yourself to insults
Canson said on 16/May/16
@Rick: you have not only lost credibility, you are being repetitive and stupid and making a fool of yourself with each post. I have said many times here (look at my posts on various pages) 6'4.5 (which has been well verified and consistent). I have claimed 6'4.5-.75 before but after being "properly" measured I drop to 6'4.4 on a normal day and can go below at times so I claim 6'4.5. So quit telling me that I'm lying because you lie. Again, not everyone adds two inches. Just like Grant said, most people are here because they don't lie about their height. You on the other hand are insecure. Also you sound Stupid with everything you say. Ok, even if someone else is posting with your name at 5'5, you are still full of it. You went from 5'7 to 5'10 now 5'10.5?? And the worst part is you are convincing yourself that you're a height you aren't. And you said 2"?? You added 3+. Again, quit using this propaganda to try to justify why your lies you tell are legitimate and cool. They aren't.
Canson said on 16/May/16
@Rick: you have not only lost credibility, you are being repetitive and stupid and making a fool of yourself with each post. I have said many times here (look at my posts on various pages) 6'4.5 (which has been well verified and consistent). I have claimed 6'4.5-.75 before but after being "properly" measured I drop to 6'4.4 on a normal day and can go below at times so I claim 6'4.5. So quit telling me that I'm lying because you lie. Again, not everyone adds two inches. Just like Grant said, most people are here because they don't lie about their height. You on the other hand are insecure. Also you sound Stupid with everything you say. Ok, even if someone else is posting with your name at 5'5, you are still full of it. You went from 5'7 to 5'10 now 5'10.5?? And the worst part is you are convincing yourself that you're a height you aren't. And you said 2"?? You added 3+. Again, quit using this propaganda to try to justify why your lies you tell are legitimate and cool. They aren't.
james said on 16/May/16
If 6'1 is considered average in South Korea, then 6'3 is average in the USA/Europe.
truth said on 16/May/16
I have also met a few young people from Holland and at a weak 179cm (177.5-178cm night time) I would say that the average height for young people is not more than 6ft0/182.8cm at night or a strong 6ft0/183cm. I did not feel even feel that short, only below average (most are taller, plenty are below my height, felt roughly 30th percentile). I felt the shortest for a long time though, the only time I felt that short was around young people from Bosnia/Montenegro/Serbia (average is also 182-183cm or 6ft0 there).

For young Dutchmen:

170-171cm or less = very short
173cm = lower short
175cm = solid short
178cm= start of short
179-180cm= below average
181-185cm= average height (plenty average)
186-187cm=above average
188cm = start of tall
190cm = solid tall
193cm= upper tall
195cm-196cm or more =very tall
James said on 16/May/16
@ Frenchguy
You yourself mentioned the average white Frenchmen is 185 cm in your university. That's why I ask you whether the 177 cm average is correct .
If 185 cm is average in French university, then 188 cm is average In U.S. University.
Yes it's very common to see 6'2 guys on my campus, especially among white men.
truth said on 16/May/16
@David Agreed also @Ireland @Alexander I would suggest to stop trolling, 5ft11/180cm-6ft1/185cm is average range in Holland.
James said on 16/May/16
@Rick
You just mentioned you're 5'6.5. Then why are you claiming 5'10.5. Isn't it obvious you're towered by most guys at that height. 5'6.5 to 5'10.5 is absolute rubbish. 4 inch exaggeration. No ones going to believe except for the other people who exaggerate.
James said on 16/May/16
I've always hear that Southern Europeans are short. Among the Southern Europeans, who's the shortest:
Greeks, Italians, Maltese, Spanish , Portugese.
I believe Portugese are yeah shortest, followed by Maltese and Italians especially Southern Italians.
James said on 16/May/16
I'm not sure whether the term "Land of Giants " should be taken literally because the average European man is 5'10 (178 cm). There's absolutely no way 6'1 is " Giant" from a 5'10 (178 cm ) perspective. Even at 171 cm I don't see 6'1 as giant. It's either they're not Giants or they're way more than 6'1.
The average height of 183-184 cm in the Netherlands includes all ethnicities born in Netherlands. Native Dutch are closer to 185 cm since they're lot taller and the immigrants being down the average.
I mentioned 6'5 being ideal height NOT average height. that's for Netherlands and Dinaric Alps.
That's because the average in both Netherlands and Dinaric Alps is ~6'1"(185 cm).
In the U.S./UK average is 178 cm and the ideal height is 188 cm ,10 cm above national average.
So in Netherlands/Dinaric Alps the ideal is 195 cm which is also 10 fm above average.
James said on 16/May/16
@truth
I've read that men from the Balkans are very tall in stature. In some areas of Balkans such as Bosnia&Herzegovina, Montenegro and Croatia people can average around 185 cm. Theres a study on 17 yr boys in the Dinaric Alps averaging 185 cm, 183.9 cm in Herzegovina, 183.8 cm in Dalmatia Croatia. In terms of statistical numbers they are probably the closest rival to the Dutch people according to height. Since Slovenia is in Balkans, I'm sure you've seen people from these countries. Would you say these heights are true, they're very tall people in general, a lot taller than the average European .
James said on 16/May/16
Among the Asian students I see in my college, South Koreans are probably on the higher spectrum.
The national average for youth is 174 cm. Quite common to see Koreans between 5'9-5'11.
Not many between 5'11-6'2 , you'll see some here and there but a minority. Over 6'3 is very rare.
For women national average is 161 cm. Quite common to see women between 5'3-5'6.
Not many around 5'7-5'8. I would occasionally spot the odd 5'9 women but it's very rare.
That sums up the height range for South Korean students I see on campus.
I assume that Northern Chinese are pretty much the same height range as South Koreans.
I doubt Koreans in the U.S. wear lifts so it's pretty accurate.
James B said on 16/May/16
So in the UK if the average height for 18-30 year olds is 5'10 range that would mean you have to be 6'0.5 or 6'1 to be considered tall and 5'11.5-6ft is upper end of average?
Minho said on 16/May/16
At what height will a guy start to be tall enough to be able to get away using a 2 inch lift without the drop in height being overly apparent when he goes barefooted? Is 5ft10? 5ft11? or 6ft?
plus said on 16/May/16
It is just a fact, about Holland, with a 182 cm average you can bump people of 195 cm... so that makes Netherlands the land of giants... it is a matter of just thinking... Van der Sar at 199 cm is a giant on Netherlands football. No way average is more than 182 cm there
James B said on 16/May/16
I think the 6'4-6'5 range is taller than some people would imagine
Mathew Robinson (190 cm) said on 16/May/16
Bobby184cm said on 11/May/16
Rob, my younger brother age 15 is about 186 cm. How tall will he be when finished growing?
Editor Rob: 190-3 range may be possible for him.

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I was roughly that height at the same age, and you can read my user name here to see how that turned out.
Johan said on 15/May/16
6'1" is just low tall in most western countries - said James.



NO idea how tall you are James but im a smidge off 6'1" and outside of The Netherlands I feel nothing less than tall. I go alot to Belgium, France , Germany on holiday and feel tall not above average like here around a group of young guys.

Don't get met started on Greece and Spain, I felt very tall there.

The average in Western Europe is nothing over 5'10" for most. A handful of countries have an average of 5'11" or in that range just under 6'0". There will ofc be regions that are outliers or cities but on a national level that is fact.
Chevy said on 15/May/16
Hi rob why is 6ft 5 barefoot such a rare height for men?
Editor Rob: height follows a typical bell-curve distribution, as does many other aspects of human 'measurable' features...

you will find a massive amount more men in 5ft 8, 9, 10 range than 6ft 3,4,5.
Kourosh said on 15/May/16
to all 5'10ers out there, honestly how often do you guys feel below average?
Ice said on 15/May/16
6'1 isnt average in South Korea . Id imagine it beeing quite tall there , Ive been to Hawaii weare 80 % of the people are asian , and they seemed way shorter to me than whites .
MD said on 15/May/16
@James, are you literally going to ask a question about every single country and its' height?
Crypto139 said on 14/May/16
I have been hearing some cringe worthy posts here the last few months. All this crying over guys that are 183 and above feeling short. All these people claiming 186 is either short and average. You know that stuff was sad for the first 5 years or so, but now it's getting on my nerves. 6'1" average in South Korea? Seriously. The average NFL team is only a bit above the mark. Even NBA teams have a 197-198 barefoot average. There is no nation on earth with an average in the 190s or even a tad below. You may get a late night average of 184 in a city at the very most though.
Canson said on 14/May/16
@CS: probably a difference of 6" to still see a noticeable difference (1.5-2") between the two.

@Duhon: in the pic you posted it looks a 5-6" difference between the two prob closer to 6
truth said on 14/May/16
@James Also average young European is about 178.5-179cm during the day (177.5-178cm or 5ft0 at night). Italians are 2.5cm shorter, Slovenes 1.5cm taller.
James said on 14/May/16
Do you believe the average height for young white males in the Netherlands is 183cm Rob?
Ice said on 14/May/16
ROB if I wake up at 189.3 cm , what height should I claim ? Is 6'2 alright ?
french guy said on 14/May/16
my height chart for white young men
-170 cm" and below: solid short
-173 cm: legit short , you don't get too much comments, but you're seen as a short guy
-176 cm: shortish/below average: many people think it's average but it's not, you'are below average and you may feel short in a lot of situations, and sometimes you will feel almost average
-178.5 cm: the real average for white young men, based on what doctors told me, it could be 178 cm or 179 cm, if you take all ethnicies , the average height drop at 177-177.5 cm
-182 cm: above average, you may feel above average, average, sometimes short, i'am 183 cm
-185 cm: solid above average but not tall, this is the first good height imo
-188 cm: legit tall, very good height
-190 cm: solid tall, this the the perfect height
-193 cm: almost very tall, very good height too
-196 cm and plus: very tal
Crypto139 said on 13/May/16
Kind of strange. I noticed the average young white male in the USA is 178.4 while the average young black is 176.9. I always felt it was closer than that. Most African-American people I know aren't noticeably shorter than the White American people I know. Alot of the 190 cm guys I can name in real life are African-Americans, and I know more White Americans anyway. Just an odd stat. As a mixed raced guy that is 171 I always felt short next to groups of both races.
175.7cm said on 13/May/16
Hey Rob, what height should i claim? Like how many hours after i get out of bed should i be able to claim or do you mostly use night heights?
Editor Rob: this graph is from a research paper and is the typical height variation during the day on average: Click Here
Mike321 said on 13/May/16
Would 189cm at night be classed as tall in every country apart from The Netherlands and Dinaric Alps, where i assume would be just above average?
David said on 13/May/16
For Men
173/174 cm and below are short.
175/176 cm are medium short.
177/178 cm are AVERAGE.
179/180 cm are medium tallish.
181/182 cm are tallish.
183 cm and above are tall.

The difference between 5'8 or 173 cm and 5'10 or 177/178 cm is BIG.
Rick said on 13/May/16
I have never said i'm 5'5, that was someone using my name and trying to be funny. @Canson, i can always add a lift to my shoes and tower over you, even at 6'2. Some days i feel tall and some days i feel really short even at 5'10 1/2. I think the average is at least 5'11..and i get hated for this? The majority of people add 2 inches to their height. If i wake at 5'7 and i'm 5'6 1'2 what should i claim..a strong 5'8 -5'9 or
truth said on 13/May/16
@James Yes Slovenes are on the taller side among Europeans and are about the same as Germans, Austrians, Croats or Czech. Young people average 180.3cm or 5ft11 (measured study for 19 year olds in 2011, this means young people born in 1992), overall population averages at about 178cm or 5ft10. Italians are about 3-4cm shorter.
Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 13/May/16
The average height in the Netherlands is definitely not 6'5"-6'7". It's certainly not as high as 6'1" either. 5'11 1/2" alone is extremely tall for an average height.
5'8.75 B4Sleep said on 13/May/16
The average female American woman's height is 163 to 164 cm, which is approximately 64.2 to 64.6 inches, which is approximately 5 foot – 5 inches tall. (for white females*).

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so if we add 4 inches (10 cm) on average white female height in USA .. that would be a comfortable height advantage for males. which can be translated to range 5'8 - 5'9.
french guy m said on 13/May/16
@I don't want to sound rude , but James , you are only 170 cm how can you distinguish 6 feet from 6 feet 2 , seriously you have no idea of the real average.
Aaron183cm said on 13/May/16
My mom is from Korea and says that many people there where lifts, especially guys. They place a lot of importance on height and physical appearance so it's just something to keep in mind. A 6'1 average is laughable, though. I mean even if everyone wore 2 inch lifts I doubt you'd even get a 6'0 or 5'11 average. The Koreans I see at my university are not tall people. Usually the ones who are pushing 6'2+ are half white.
James B said on 13/May/16
James- yeah I agree I think the appropriate term for the Netherlands would be "land of the tall people". 6'1 is far from a giant but it is legit tall in shorter countries like the UK/US.


But really what a lot of people on this page forget is that height is all relative to the average of height of the country you live in. So for example in England a legit 6'2 would be 'strong tall' but in countries like Netherlands or Denmark it might be 'weak tall'. If the average is supposedly 6'1 in the Netherlands than you would have to be 6'7-6'8 range to be considered very tall.
Crushed1995 said on 13/May/16
Yea all those short-haired curvy asian girls that are pretty tall are all Koreans basically
Ireland said on 13/May/16
179cm if you really are 179 cm you will feel like a dwarf in Holland, when taking a walk you will see mothers pushing strollers towering over you. Its just the way it is, at 180 cm I will feel the same as you.
Alexander said on 13/May/16
@James, there are quite a few South Koreans over 190cm, but not a great amount. Most of these South Koreans are roughly the same height. And yea I totally agree with you about your view on Dutch averaging 6'5ish.

@179cm, why are you going against your previous statment? "I agree with you that 6'1 - 6'2 is average in Germany since I've been there. The average among Dutchmen is probably around 6'5." Please decide on your opinions first before arguing against a point.
Johan said on 13/May/16
@CS

I would say 4 inches is optimal for height difference.

Most heels would give a woman a 2 inch advantage but then you have the ones with platform that can give up to 4 inches advantage. Going off the common one inch shoe for a guy.

Most women I see wear in the 3-4 inch range of heel so 2-3 inches more. So you would still be 1-2 inches taller with her in heels.

An easy example- 5 ft 8 woman and 6 foot guy. She either is 5'11" or 6 '0" in heels So the 6 footer is 6'1" in his shoes. I think that kind of difference is great as barefoot they are still in reach without too much bending. Then they put heels on and are almost eye level.

However most countries including my own seem to have a natural 5 inch advantage, M- 511.5 , F - 5'6.5" here. So then you would be comfortably taller 2-3 inches.

The absolute lowest would probably be in the 3 inch area of height difference but then if she like big platform heels she might be slightly taller depending on the heel type.
Johan said on 13/May/16
average joe said on 12/May/16
@johan i have my own stadiometer so im pretty sure my height is accurate. I got the exact same measurement my doc did using his stadiometer so yeah.


Thats why I said most people have an error of one inch. I don't think this site is a good example of the average joe, average joe.

Before I came to this site in 2011 I actually believed for many years that I was 187-188 cm. So basically 6 ft 2. The reason for that - Everyone told me I was including doctors.

Then I had a change of house doctor, GP or something Im not sure of the term but he measured me with a proper stadiometer at 5 pm as he wanted to know my BMI. He told me I was 185 cm which is also what I had gotten against a wall using Rob's method after dinner a few weeks beforehand. So i learned what morning height was.

I get regularly 186.5 cm + out of bed after a good nights sleep and so that most likely got rounded to 187 cm when I was measured before 9am as a student.

So in conclusion I think its understandable that alot of people increase their height by 2 cm because they do measure it at one point in the day.

3cm is some rounding being done but also i can see why people get those measurements.

Anything in the area of 2 inches or over though is just plain lying. We don't wake with our shoes on;)
truth said on 13/May/16
People might think that 6ft0/183cm is only average range due to many guys around 5ft10.5-5ft11.5 or 180cm claiming it. And then plenty of legit 6ft0/183cm guys claim 6ft1/185cm, which make people think 6ft0/183cm is not that tall (my uncle is still a strong 183cm/6ft0, was 185cm/6ft1 but now at 61 he lost near an inch and he still looks solid tall). 5ft11/180cm or 5ft11.5/182cm is not tall it is upper average range (opposite of 5ft9/175cm or 5ft8.5/174cm, which is lower average range).
truth said on 13/May/16
@James Except it is not dude, it was measured 183-184cm in a height study for young people, 181-182cm for the overrall. population. Regular tall/low tall in the west is 183cm/6ft0, 6ft1/185cm is strong tall and 6ft2/188cm is upper tall (average is 178cm/5ft10). The Netherlands has an average 1.5in/4cm taller than the whole of Europe, 187cm/6ft1.5 is low tall there.
179cm said on 13/May/16
@James

They are regarded as being so tall because they are the tallest people on average with men averaging around 6 feet, women around 5'7". That is very tall. In most countries men are below 5'10" on average.

Look, the claims you make are ludicrous. I'm sure that the average guy in the Netherlands is 6 feet and that you see guys well over the average height, there's no taking that away. However, when you come on here talking about a 6'5-6" average or ideal, your credibility goes right out the window. So by those standards, I need to get to 6'3" so I can be 'king of the manlets' and maybe when I get to 6'4" a woman will give me a second look.

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