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General Height height: 7ft 6.5in (230 cm)

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Amaze says on 30/Jul/14
For guys i'd say 5'3 is start of midget
Anyone smaller than 5'1 is a dwarf for a male.
For females id say 5'0 and below is midget
Anyone 4'10 and below is dwarf. 4'11 is borderline.
I'm seeing alot of these people here in India for a holiday. They give me a wierd stare as if im a freak at 5'8. Wait till they see my 6'6 friends. Probably bow down to him and start offering him free food idk
198cm says on 30/Jul/14
I have pretty bad posture when im stood with 6'4 guys sometimes I only look a fraction taller.
Jewel says on 30/Jul/14
Rob hope your having a fantastic day

u didnt put my question here about the negatively-vertically challenged folk.

why is it ok for people to term others as giants and say stuff like giant territory and yet i can ask what the start of m----- range is for men and women?
[Editor Rob: there is a comment not that much further down this page which you asked about a midget range, but in general I think that word is a bit derogatory.]
Jewel says on 30/Jul/14
SAK and Josh. some great comments/perspective there guys
Amaze says on 30/Jul/14
"I think for women you would find portions want 5ft 5 but a good chunk would go for the 5ft 7-8 range. For men similarly a good chunk might say 6ft, but 6ft 1-2 would be more ideal" rob said this and I completely agree :)
Rob can you add a page for Ranbir Kapoor? he's one of the biggest Bollywood stars now and hes dating Katrina kaif xD but yeah i'm curious to know what his height is.. everywhere I see its said he's 6'0 but next to his 5'7 father I really don't see it, maybe 5'11 max but you know obviously much more so could you make a page for him please
jamieorr4 says on 30/Jul/14
SAK 511 isn't tall thats why
jamieorr4 says on 30/Jul/14
i think anything under 59 is shortish does anyone agree?
Amaze says on 30/Jul/14
7ft is gross ewwwwwwwwww anything above 6'6 is defo way too much. connor I think you went a bit too light on describing it. it's 7+ inches too much. its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too tall. actually i'd wanna write a paragraph on here but I dont wanna take up the space on this page. put it this way, if you are that height or anywhere near it then its extremely unfortunate.
Amaze says on 30/Jul/14
@connor183cm bro don't try talking to trolls, hes over a foot underestimating. 6'-6'3 very short. really . ;) come on you know hes either trolling or daft. .. out of 10 I rate 7 ft 0/10. put it this way I would not want to be that height at all its gross. connor that's a troll post ignore it. you connor are tall and ignore this guy

@pretty boy lol yes it is you could say 5 - 6 is like 5'9 - 10 xD

@French guy actually my year group in school is one of the tallest for some reason. the year above me has a few 6'2guys, and they are the tallest. the year above that the guy tallest there is 6'4 then its 6'2 guys mainly 6' etc.

but my year, is the tallest. a lot of people from my primary school class were tall and most of them came to our secondary. there is a massive black guy, 6'6'' who had rob's size feet when he just 8 years old. his foot size is 15 now? I remember my mum was talking to him once when I was 8 she was 5'4 and she looked way shorter than him. anyway he hates being his height and tells me the inconviences. another guy , indian - same name as me xD was one of the tallest too. he's 6'6 now. he tells me the inconviences. another white guy - connor xD was 6 ft when we were 12. he's 6'6.5 now he tells me he got measured at 200cm exactly and he weighed in at 95kg. another indian guy - Sikh - he's 6'6 198cm) he also tells me how bad it is. a muslim guy - Pakistani is 6'5.5 or 75(197cm) he tells me how he dislikes it. after that it goes 6'4 several 6'4 guys 6'3 6'2 and 6'1 and 6'0. our year is known as a tall year group. i'd say average is 5'10 or 11. there are lot of 6'3-6 guys in my year. plus my 6'6.5 friend said he got predicted at 6'7.5 "or near 6'8" in his words. the year below me is not that tall, one 6'5 guy and some 6'2 but that's it. however the year below that they are 15 and some are 6'4 or 5 already! I remember one black guy from there was 6'2 when he was 13. my year group is tall indeed. I know a lot of tall guys. they all wish they were shorter despite good build.

@DLB i'm the same as Rob. 173cm. 5'8''.
dan 5'9 says on 30/Jul/14
I've always felt shortish at 175 cm evening height. Like Sak said, most people compare to you to the 6'1 guy towering over you. When there aren't any short people in the room, I can feel small.

also, not everybody has 100 percent straight posture when walking or standing around, so I can even be shorter if I don't consciously try to stand at my tallest. I think 6'0 is nice because you can still look a solid height even if you aren't trying.
NBC1 says on 30/Jul/14
SAK says on 30/Jul/14

One thing I notice, if you are 1" below average(so 5'9 in UK) you can be seen as short/shortish quite often rather then average range. Yet if you are 1" taller then average (5'11) that often is not viewed as tall more (upper)average.

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It depends the people you hang out, usually. I have a British friend, he is 187cm, he never fell he is tall guy, because his friends and classmates are similar height, more or less. Perhaps, another British group, none of them is over 175cm. so they may think British average height is under 170cm. Because everyone lives in different environment.
NBC1 says on 30/Jul/14
When you guys have discussed the height, you miss some points. Yes, for west world, there is only one or two nation's average height is over 180cm. Of course, other world(South America, Asia, Africa) are shorter. But you forget there are always height difference between the cities in a country. Germany, for example, there is report was published by German government in 2009, the shortest city is Rostock, the average height is 176.6, the highest city is Hamburg, which average height is 185.6. There is almost 10cm of difference in the same nation. So you should understand, if a guy who is 185 from Rostock, he may think 185 is tall for German, but if a guy who is the same height from Hamburg, he may think even 185cm is a little of short for German.
Late 187cm says on 30/Jul/14
"Josh says on 30/Jul/14....."

While I personally agree with a lot of what was said in that post, judging from what I read on here and would assume from people's behaviour in the 'real world', I really think that is how the majority of people would generally view male height.
Stevie says on 30/Jul/14
Connor 183cm says on 29/Jul/14
darren7ft says on 29/Jul/14
hi guys im back
under 6' midget
6'0-6'3 very short
6'4-6'7 short
6'8-6'9 below average
6'10-6'11 above average
7ft - weak tall.
I wish I was 8 ft tall so I could wreck planets. i'm G's long lost twin brother from planet mars btw. I wanna rule earth me g are the kings muhahahaha

Umm okay... i do hope you are joking mr crazy evil guy, 8ft is waaaaaay too tall thats way over the limit of giant range, its an extremely giant height and being that big can lead to short life span because it would take very long for the blood to flow through the body, look at Robert Wadlow he had extreme giantism and he was 8ft 11.75, near 9ft, he was huge, he had problems finding clothes and shoes for his size and i bet they had to be custom made for his needs, think about how he would struggle travelling by transport i bet he'd have custom built size cars for him too, he'd had to be ducking under doorframes maybe even ducking under celins too and because of his height he died very early at 21-22 i think thats how old he was anyway and he was picked on by some very cruel people and was called names like freak and such i couldn't imagine what it was like for him to go through all of that poor man, its not good being that tall you know, no offence im not saying this to upset you im just saying, i mean if you are really 7ft like you claim to be arent you big enough already?, why would you want to be a foot taller? 7ft is alreadly way way above the average for human height its 15 inches over average height for men, 20 inches over the average height for women and its 4 inches over the start of giant range which is 6ft 8, you are alreadly a giant probably much closer to extreme giant range alreadly infact, im pretty sure when you'e out and about people will say you are very very tall, huge, massive or enormous e,g, at your height you ARE a giant dont underestimate yourself.


OF COURSE HE IS JOKING!
Kourosh177cm says on 30/Jul/14
one more thing, I'm 177cm tall which means im about average height. If that is the average why everyone is almost taller than me these days? its hard to find anyone to be around my height or shorter? :( im losing my confidence because of that.
Kourosh177cm says on 30/Jul/14
my quesiton was ignored due to excessive stupid comments by some people arguing over 6'6 tall people.
i ask it again, have you guys experienced some days when you go out to shopping malls or walking streets and feel like almost everybody is taller than you and it makes you think you are shorter than you actually are? and some days you feel pretty much opposite you are taller than almost everyone pass you by and it makes oyu think you are taller than you thought you were? i get that and it confuses me alot :(
Jewel says on 30/Jul/14
whats the start of (sorry to use the word for) midget range for men and women?
198cm says on 30/Jul/14
Darren7ft is an obvious troll.
DLB says on 30/Jul/14
How tall are you in cm Amaze?
SAK says on 30/Jul/14
What I have noticed in regards to height and perception of height it doesn't follow the statistics a lot of the times.

One thing I notice, if you are 1" below average(so 5'9 in UK) you can be seen as short/shortish quite often rather then average range. Yet if you are 1" taller then average (5'11) that often is not viewed as tall more (upper)average.

I think the reason for this is, I think when you are in surrounding with people the tall folks, they determine how you will be perceived in terms of height. So its how you compare to the tall people around you then you are tall, short, average etc..
SAK says on 30/Jul/14
There is forum site called reddit. They have sub-forums, and there you can find people talk about a whole host of things. They also have a tall and short person forum. Basically it's a place where you talk about how your height affects you.

The tall folks generally have threads which are lighthearted, usually along the lines: sitting back of small cars gives me cramps, jeans are always too short, people say I should be a bb player or i should model etc..

OTOH,
the short people's threads tend to have more about genuine social problems. Many feel they aren't taken seriously, ttrouble getting dates, ignored a lot of the times and other similar things.

What I am trying to say is, unless you are a particular height it is difficult to say how hard they have it. I have personally noticed guys 6'4+ tend to have issues which are not really issues but a few physical inconveniences from time to time.

But the short folks 5'8(5'9/5'10 if from tall country) and below tend to deal with many social problems due to lack of height.

I realise not everyone has problems due to their height, I am just referring to the people who express their problems online.
Josh says on 30/Jul/14
Don't see why the very tall guys are getting so annoyed.

This is how I see it...very tall is obviously better than very short, and clearly even better than too short. But it is a little less good than simply tall and about even with average (maybe a bit better), but it depends how out far of the norm you go.

The thing is "tall" is generally a good thing and universally something women seem to like in a general sense, so yes I think it's a bit lame to say something like 6'3 is unattractive to women...yet nothing wrong with saying 6'1-6'2 seems to be the aesthetic ideal, and heights taller than that while perhaps "more alpha" are getting into diminishing returns...Of COURSE it's still better to be 6'5 than 5'6 and of COURSE 6'3 is still a good height in most cases. But we can discern and decide which height seems to offer the most benefits overall.

It's way better to be taller than ideal than shorter than ideal, but doesn't mean there isn't a general ideal range. It seems a bit arrogant for guys 6'5 who still have it great and can be seen as action hero like with some time in the gym, to be mad because other guys consider 6'1 or 6'2 the best height. You guys feel me?
SAK says on 30/Jul/14
There is forum site called reddit. They have sub -forums.
Pretty boy says on 29/Jul/14
If average height range is generally considered 5'8-5'11, then what about p*nis size? 5 - 6 inches? Different topic I know but just curious. Standing (pun intended) at 5.5 inches, where do I fall in percentiles?

Cheers
Chris says on 29/Jul/14
You are all such pathetic clichés
french guy says on 29/Jul/14
@robv

how could you hear people's comments while music in nightclubs is generally too loud?
Josh says on 29/Jul/14
Dan's listing is pretty spot on for how you will FEEL at those heights if you are a white upper-middle class guy in America.
Jon189 says on 29/Jul/14
darren 7ft - Could you post a photo of yourself please . I suspect you are not as tall as that. You know, just a suspicion.

198cm - Well why don't you leave then ?
Connor 183cm says on 29/Jul/14
darren7ft says on 29/Jul/14
hi guys im back
under 6' midget
6'0-6'3 very short
6'4-6'7 short
6'8-6'9 below average
6'10-6'11 above average
7ft - weak tall.
I wish I was 8 ft tall so I could wreck planets. i'm G's long lost twin brother from planet mars btw. I wanna rule earth me g are the kings muhahahaha

Umm okay... i do hope you are joking mr crazy evil guy, 8ft is waaaaaay too tall thats way over the limit of giant range, its an extremely giant height and being that big can lead to short life span because it would take very long for the blood to flow through the body, look at Robert Wadlow he had extreme giantism and he was 8ft 11.75, near 9ft, he was huge, he had problems finding clothes and shoes for his size and i bet they had to be custom made for his needs, think about how he would struggle travelling by transport i bet he'd have custom built size cars for him too, he'd had to be ducking under doorframes maybe even ducking under celins too and because of his height he died very early at 21-22 i think thats how old he was anyway and he was picked on by some very cruel people and was called names like freak and such i couldn't imagine what it was like for him to go through all of that poor man, its not good being that tall you know, no offence im not saying this to upset you im just saying, i mean if you are really 7ft like you claim to be arent you big enough already?, why would you want to be a foot taller? 7ft is alreadly way way above the average for human height its 15 inches over average height for men, 20 inches over the average height for women and its 4 inches over the start of giant range which is 6ft 8, you are alreadly a giant probably much closer to extreme giant range alreadly infact, im pretty sure when you'e out and about people will say you are very very tall, huge, massive or enormous e,g, at your height you ARE a giant dont underestimate yourself.
Amaze says on 29/Jul/14
198cm im not saying you cant pull girls mate its just most girls wont be able to even kiss you when tiptoeing, and its like you dont fit with most women well. plus all the women ive spoked to say 6'6 is a bit too much. Anything over 6'5 is not preferred.
french guy says on 29/Jul/14
lol amaze, hom many legit 6'6" do you know, unless the average height in your school is 6'3", i don't believe you know so many men who are this tall.
Mike says on 29/Jul/14
If she was upto his elbow she must have been around the 4ft mark was she a midget or a 7 year old....
[Editor Rob: she was like 5ft 3, of course people exaggarate]
Late 187cm says on 29/Jul/14
@RobV

I didn't suggest that you could 'see their personality from the bar', I had envisaged that once they started mingling with people they were perhaps popular in part due to their personalities. Although sometimes you can see certain traits from a distance, confidence for example. This can be attractive. The way you dress can say a lot about you, and what you're looking for in a club scenario, male or female.
I'm not saying height wasn't a factor. Certain people have a certain magnetism in certain situations, how you carry yourself. Height, looks, body language, dress, charm, etc. are all factors.
I just think it's a little simplistic to reduce it all to height and build. If they had faces like orangutans, dressed like tramps, wouldn't smile and wouldn't make eye contact, I don't think their build and height would have mattered much.
It's ok if you disagree with this, just my opinion.
198cm says on 29/Jul/14
This page does make me laugh "Inconvinient to women" ive never had any trouble in pulling son, and I think this talk about ideal height has gone on way too long its getting boring.
Amaze says on 29/Jul/14
Hmm i see rob. 6 ft 5/6 + being thin does not look nice at all. At 5'8 i am around 130 lbs i am pretty slim/thin/skinny whatever but i dont look bad or whatever but at 6'5/6 but that thin will defo add an illusion to him being taller. 6'5 is still a wow height! Like impressive.. 6'6 is the lower end of extreme height, its kinda rare and not that common at all. Its near 2m and its extremely tall so yeah the guy being thin plus the height the girl would defo say oh wow up to his elbow. I can understand people looking and commenting on him - he stands out! Sticks out like a sore thumb, too tall xD but yeah at that height whoever that guy was needs to put on alot of weight to avoid looking like a beanstalk .. If he still puts on weight i guess he'll get looks and comments still
RobV says on 29/Jul/14
@ Late187cm You may have read a particular story a few times on here to demonstrate a point, but of course all these new names that keep appearing here will not have. That is how an open thread like this works anyway.

Yes indeed, you are right - in fact, any celeb can go into any club/bar at any height, and looking like crap if he wants, and he will be the centre of attention. Some indeed come into my clubs and they can be 5'3" and they will pull if they want. That is because they are celebs and people are generally very obsessed with them, pointing them out and wanting to get to know them/near to them. "Oh that's him off that film" etc.

My point is that the three 6'6" guys were not relying upon being celebs because they weren't. One was a musician not really known very well outside certain circles, and none of them could be called celebs in the sense of being automatically known by everyone when they arrived, from appearances on tv and film and in the papers. They were dominant in the club and treated in the way celebs are because of their height, build and presence. It was not their "personality" that attracted all the women (how can you tell someone's personality by just seeing them at a bar from a distance?). It was their presence through height and build.

Because of those things, they had the same pulling power of a celeb without being famous. Your comparison simply proves my point - were they the same height as that short celeb, they would not have the same presence and pulling power.
jamieorr4 says on 29/Jul/14
Amaze ok thanks cool word btw
jamieorr4 says on 29/Jul/14
RobV i didn't say 66 guys are rubbish just the dominant thing i personally wouldn't let a 66 guy push me around just because a guy 66 doesn't mean hes tough
Firas says on 29/Jul/14
KJ says on 27/Jul/14
"I came across this article Click Here entitles '20 Reasons Why Tall Guys Are The Best', which makes for pretty grim reading for any man under 6', particularly the comments sections.

Warning: Don't read if you are already feeling insecure about your height!"

Just read the comments. Ouch. Lucky i'm 6ft.
darren7ft says on 29/Jul/14
hi guys im back
under 6' midget
6'0-6'3 very short
6'4-6'7 short
6'8-6'9 below average
6'10-6'11 above average
7ft - weak tall.
I wish I was 8 ft tall so I could wreck planets. i'm G's long lost twin brother from planet mars btw. I wanna rule earth me g are the kings muhahahaha
Amaze says on 29/Jul/14
no offense but that 6'6 dominant thing is a load of rubbish lol its too tall but if you dont think that well that dominant thing I disagree with. my friend who is 6' has a good build and he beat up this 6'6 guy who also had a ok build but because he was too large it did not look nice at all. afterwards the 6'6 guy lost and the 6 guy won. 6 was a good size while 6'6 was too large and freakish. btw 6'6 is 1.98m 2.m is nearly 6'7 which is waaaay too tall.

bruce lee was 5'7 and is more alpha and dominant than all these 6'6 guys ever lol
[Editor Rob: I was just at local town centre today and with Jenny she saw a very tall guy in front of us and she actually brought up his height and said is he the same as the big challenger, 6ft 5?...the guy was pretty thin which can add to an illusion, but I said he looked more in the 6ft 6 range. Even at that height we saw a few people commenting or looking at him and one girl walked by us and she said 'wow only up to his elbow' or something.]
Amaze says on 29/Jul/14
Jamie bro ftw means "for the win" lol it means its good basially. so you like 6'1 right? youd say 6'1 ftw. if you love pizza youd say pizza ftw


@mike, why how tall are you? no i'm a male, and I know a lot of girls.. they love tall guys yes, but not beanstalks. they pretty much like anyone over 5'9 and under 6'4. the girls I all know, this is coming from over 20-30 they say 6'0 - 3 is ideal. 4 isn't that bad but its getting a bit much, 6ft6 is too much. plus most girls wanna feel protected, not feel like there being kidnapped. put a 6'6 guy next to a avg girl or even a tall girl it looks like their about to be. no offense to you guys. plus at one point I had a mindset like you. oh 6'5 6'6 is heavenly. till I saw this teacher at my school. he looked muscley but still gangly/awkward. 6'6 is the start of excessive. I said oh wow ur lucky to him! he replied no he said its too much. I saw him get into his car and the expression on his face was pretty sad - I still remember how he started becoming sad. he said being very tall is overrated and wished he was around 6'3 imo. so yeah... plus humans aint supposed to be 6'6 6'6 is near giant... 6'5 aint that bad but it has some negatives like lilo said. if you wanna be very tall then 6'3 ,4 is fine. but ill stick with 6'0-2.5 being ideal which most people think it is.
Amaze says on 29/Jul/14
Jamie bro ftw means "for the win" lol it means its good basially. so you like 6'1 right? youd say 6'1 ftw. if you love pizza youd say pizza ftw


@mike, why how tall are you? no i'm a male, and I know a lot of girls.. they love tall guys yes, but not beanstalks. they pretty much like anyone over 5'9 and under 6'4. the girls I all know, this is coming from over 20-30 they say 6'0 - 3 is ideal. 4 isn't that bad but its getting a bit much, 6ft6 is too much. plus most girls wanna feel protected, not feel like there being kidnapped. put a 6'6 guy next to a avg girl or even a tall girl it looks like their about to be. no offense to you guys. plus at one point I had a mindset like you. oh 6'5 6'6 is heavenly. till I saw this teacher at my school. he looked muscley but still gangly/awkward. 6'6 is the start of excessive. I said oh wow ur lucky to him! he replied no he said its too much. I saw him get into his car and the expression on his face was pretty sad - I still remember how he started becoming sad. he said being very tall is overrated and wished he was around 6'3 imo. so yeah... plus humans aint supposed to be 6'6 6'6 is near giant... 6'5 aint that bad but it has some negatives like lilo said. if you wanna be very tall then 6'3 ,4 is fine. but ill stick with 6'0-2.5 being ideal which most people think it is.
RobV says on 29/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 It is possibly unwise to describe someone else's report on what they have actually seen as 'rubbish'. It is not really proper argument or discussion - as I say, I noted all those years ago that the three guys who were around 6'6" who came into a club I helped with simply dominated the place. You suggest that my observation about this dominance is 'rubbish'. Sorry, but as a guy who is shorter than those 3 guys, I know what I saw and know the impact their height had.
Late 187cm says on 29/Jul/14
RobV says on 28/Jul/14, "I go back to something I have mentioned here occasionally." - I must have read that story about ten times now I really don't think you can say occasionally! But anyway....

I'm not saying that their height wasn't a factor, but surely there were other variables? Personality? Good looks? I think you said before that they were musicians? Surely this was a factor.

Boy band members are often quite small and childish looking. I'm sure if certain bands went into certain clubs they would have the pick too, regardless of height.
Fair point?
Connor 183cm says on 29/Jul/14
@Lillo thomas think before you comment, we never said 6ft 2 is very tall, its veryish tall which means almost very tall, its near very tall but not quite, we know its more regular/strong tall stop correcting us all the time its annoying.
jamieorr4 says on 29/Jul/14
Amaze what does ftwww mean? and Anon i say 6ft is a weak perfect imo
jamieorr4 says on 29/Jul/14
RobV im not jealous like i said before its just not my ideal height and besides im not a club kinda of guy i wasn't trying to offered anyone by saying its too tall sorry if i did its just my opinion if you don't think its too tall thats fine and whats with the dominant rubbish? don't girls realize that you don't need to be tall to be tough who is more likely to win a fight a 57 guy who is a martial arts master or a 66 guy who doesn't know martial arts?
jamieorr4 says on 29/Jul/14
Connor 183cm yes 65 is uncommon not sure about rare though 66 is were it gets rare imo and yes 68 is more rare
RobV says on 29/Jul/14
@KROC and btw since I used elevators to push my 6'2" up to about that 6'5"/6'6" height, I have also found it very effective to be that height, specially having built my body a bit as well.
Mike says on 29/Jul/14
@Amaze, I certainly wouldn't mind being 6'5-6'6 and why is it inconvient with women, do you have experience of this are you a woman?
Chapa 185cm 79kg says on 29/Jul/14
barefoot 190cm is my dream height..perfect imo.
dan says on 28/Jul/14
male heights obviously (M= median of group)

-5'1.75 near dwarf

5'1.75-5'3.75 tiny M= 5'2.75

5'3.75-5'5.75 very short M= 5'4.75

5'5.75-5'7.75 short M= 5'6.75

5'7.75-5'9.75 below average M= 5'8.75

5'9.75-5'11.75 standard M= 5'10.75

5'11.75-6'1.75 above average M= 6'0.75

6'1.75-6'3.75 tall M= 6'2.75

6'3.75-6'5.75 very tall M= 6'4.75

6'5.75-6'7.75 huge M= 6'6.75

6'7.75+ near giant
Manlet says on 28/Jul/14
Hey I would truely appreciate it if someone could answer my question (Rob or any other height guru)

I measured myself to be 168cm standing at 10 at the night, then i tried measuring myself laying down (straight after measuring myself standing (10pm) and got 171.5cm. Is this normal or does it suggest that i might have bad posture when standing and through stretching i might reach my real potential?
Late 187cm says on 28/Jul/14
Tall Vs Short is a little like Thin Vs Overweight. It's not always welcome when people make references to our physical appearance, but one is generally seen as more positive than the other, unless there are extremes.
RobV says on 28/Jul/14
@Kroc Alas most of us don't even understand what 'dunk a basketball' means in the UK, so clearly the advantage of being v tall over here is not that (unless I am doing it in my sleep).

I go back to something I have mentioned here occasionally. And it was how I first learned of the advantages. When I began getting involved in clubs 15 years ago, these three guys used to come to a mate's club - all around 6'6"/built. They simply dominated the place and, frankly, had the pick.

And what struck me once was hearing one girl who was being bitchy about them - but the minute one of the guys showed a slight bit of interest in her, she was all over him, and basically threw herself in the direction. Guys the same way - muttering what were clearly jealous comments about them "they think they're so hot" etc, but the minute those same critics had any interaction with the guys, it was always "oh yeah, great guys yadda yadda". They had control.

It just struck me that their height was incredibly effective. Just because height might assist in a sport does not make it the be-all for actually being that height. That would be like saying "what is the point of you being so good looking, unless you are /want to be a model". There's plenty of reasons to want to be tall. Height up to about that 2m/6'6" mark, with a bit of shape and muscle, is very effective. Never once did anyone say that they guys were too tall. The main criticism was that they were too dominant and the other guys fear/jealousy that they would take their girlfriends or pull the ones they fancied.
jamieorr4 says on 28/Jul/14
Lillo thomas yes 62 isn't very tall just tall but you would you say it starts at 63?
Amaze says on 28/Jul/14
6'0 is a very very good height thats underestimated on here, one of the three best. Its a decent size. Anything over 6'5 is freakishly tall. Toooooo tall. Inconvient with women aswell. Day to day problems.

Kroc i agree. Yeah abishek is 6'1.5 im suprised he got to that height lol with a very short mother she must be 5' or 5'1 tops. Im wondering how amitabh got 6'2. That is a giant tall for his time, thats still very tall in india today, he was a giant back in his time. Amitabhs dad must hve been 5'3-4 and his mum was short too. He got lucky lol.
Amaze says on 28/Jul/14
@Kroc i agree with everything youve just said.

Anything over 6'5 is defo excessive imo. Why would you wanna be 6'6 lol. No point. If you wanna be tall thats fine, 6 ft to 6 ft 2 is fine. Humans are not supposed to be very very tall. The back problems and joint problems too. Imo perfect is 183-188, 189-193 being good still, 194-196 is max+
Connor 183cm says on 28/Jul/14
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
Connor 183cm would you say 66 is were it gets rare?

yes its quite rare, but not quite as rare as 6ft 8 or over imo, now thats defiantly rare , my stepdad is 6ft 5 flat and there was this one time i was out with him and i thought he was the tallest person there, i guess you could say his height is a little rare, but anyway it was not long until we came across a guy who walked past us and he looked 6ft 6.5-7 range that was the only time ever i have seen a guy even taller than him.
Kourosh177cm says on 28/Jul/14
guys how often you see tall woman? i see handful of women range from 5'10 and half to 6'0 every time i go to shopping mall. how bout you?
Amaze says on 28/Jul/14
I find it extremly annoying when my friends who have way shorter parents than me are taller thah me.

Friends dad 5'6
Mum 4'11 - is 5'9 @ 17
Friends dad 5'7
Mum 5'3 - is 6'0 @ 17
Heres a wierd one
Friends dad 6'3
Mum 5'2 - 5'8 @ 17. Same height as me but with a way taller father but shorter mother.
Another friend
Dad 5'5
Mum 5'7/8?
His brothers are 6'1 and 6'2. Hes at 5'8 at 17 like me. Genes are funny man.
About me? Dads 5'11 and mums 5'4. Brother ended up 6'0.5 or 6'1.25 out of bed. I'm curious to what i end up at. Surpassing your father can feel like a fabulous thing lol.
amaze says on 28/Jul/14
Yeah jamie i agree with you. Blending in ftwww
6 0 is a weak perfect with 6'1 and 2 being mid and strong perfects.
Anon says on 28/Jul/14
@Jamieorr4. I think 6'0, 6'1 and 6'2 are all equally perfect heights. They are all considered tall and there is not much to separate them. 6'2 would be considered freakishly tall in lots of countries in the world yet in the northern Netherlands is not even considered tall. 6'0 would be considered tall practically everywhere in the world and is still a rare stand out height in many countries yet it's average in The Netherlands or above average in Scandinavia. 6'1 is only average or above average in the Netherlands but never tall, and 6'3 which is tall absolutely everywhere in the world is definitely a bit too tall objectively speaking. It's no coincidence that the most successful models in the world are between 6'0 and 6'2 even if they get listed 6'3 the likelihood is that they are in the 6'2 range, and the most seen models are between 6'0 and 6'1. The reason I mention modelling is because of the way heights look, it doesn't matter if you feel tall or short next to people it just matters how good your height looks physically.

@chocomelo. 174cm is a great height for women
Jewel says on 28/Jul/14
thanks SAK.

that was neat.
Amaze says on 28/Jul/14
Lilo 6'2 isnt very tall i agree what we meant was that its a strong tall, its near very tall,
Thats what people meant, its 6'3 that is the start of very tall(lower) and 6'4 is mid and 6'5 like you is upper very tall.
Amaze says on 28/Jul/14
Lilo 6'2 isnt very tall i agree what we meant was that its a strong tall, its near very tall,
Thats what people meant, its 6'3 that is the start of very tall(lower) and 6'4 is mid and 6'5 like you is upper very tall.
SAK says on 28/Jul/14
RobV says: why is that people feel they can talk quite insultingly and negatively about people who are alpha tall but it mustn't happen the other way round.
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I notice this too. Esp on here. But other places too.

We know deep down saying the negative comments towards the very tall(6'4-6'6) don't hold much value because being tall is generally seen as positive. Yes there are some inconveniences and you will standout(introverts won't like this).

Saying negative comments to short people and things become a lot worse. It's like saying something a fat person.
KROC says on 28/Jul/14
@RobV How is greater height an advantage unless you dunk a basketball for a living? Either way you cut it 6'6 is too tall. Anything over 6'5 is becoming excessive.

@Amaze Yea Amitabh Bachchan was 6'2 in his prime, easy. I think he's 184cm now. Abhishek can look 6'2 with the right footwear (he actually looked it in Dhoom 2 next to Hithrik Roshan) but he's slightly below that mark.

Trying to figure out how you guys can tell the difference between 6'1 and 6'2. I really can't tell it. Both those heights look the same to me. A legitimate 6'3 is for me, a recognizable height. To me that's the start of standout tall.
Justin says on 28/Jul/14
Hi Rob my doctor measured me at 187cm this morning how tall should I say I am
[Editor Rob: assuming it was say a couple of hours from waking then 187 or 6 is ok. Straight out of bed you might be nearer to 188]
TJE says on 27/Jul/14
That's my eye level at night, even after 6 hours of work. Standing tall and head straight too. How tall would you consider me?

P.S. Sorry for redundancy. Just interested in knowing.
[Editor Rob: I would go with a typical 178cm if they had that eyelevel. 179cm if your eyelevel was lower set or just above 177 if you had a higher set eyes.]
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
sorry i was meant to say personally not personal
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
198cm look if your happy being 66 thats fine and RobV your not a legit 66 guy but if you think its ideal thats fine to but personal its not my ideal height because i like to blend with people im not sure if 66 is a bad height but i am sure its not my ideal height my ideal height is 61 or 62
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
grizz its ok i say your a weak perfect height just be proud of who you are and besides 6ft is a good height my friend is 59 and he doesn't want to get taller
SAK says on 27/Jul/14
Jewel says: u can walk up to someone and ask ''my, how tall are you?'' or ''you are tall!'' but you cant say 'woow your really short!'' or ''how fat are you?'' you cant voice out ''you must be the fattest person i have ever seen!'' why is this?
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Being fat or short(for a guy), both are seen as negative aspects of human physicality. However being tall is seen as positive and aspirational.

So people presume highlighting a person's tallness will be welcomed. I know a few very tall people (6'4+ men/5'10 women) who tend to get strangers referring to their height and they say it can become tiresome, they usually like their height but don't want random comments directed towards them.

But some do love the attention and don't mind people asking questions about basketball etc..
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
Connor 183cm would you say 66 is were it gets rare?
RobV says on 27/Jul/14
@ Morning Star. Indeed, I have lost count of the number here around that height who say " 6'1" perfect height? I'd rather be [it's usually 2" taller]" . It is probably the case that if you are 5'9", say, then 6'1" does seem kind of ideal. But not really so much if you are actually 6'1". I am 6'2" and use lifts/elevators to get a bit of extra height.

An ideal about height is also problematic in that it is actually quite difficult to truly judge it. So if you say your ideal is 6'1" but then cannot correctly estimate the height of such a guy standing in front of you, it begs a few questions! Is it the actual height or a number quoted conditioned by other factors?
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
Amaze i forgot to thank you for answering my question about The Netherlands i have all ready thank Connor 183cm but forgot thank you sorry about that
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
Morning Star its because your tall but not very tall imo i wouldn't like to be very tall and at 61 you can blend in better than 63 i would said the cons are you would feel short next to 66 guys but still i would put it in the perfect range im only 179cm
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 27/Jul/14
There all this debate about whats tall short average etc. Heres what I think the best chart is in terms of how most 'typical' people would pecieve:

Under 5ft 5 - Every inch the more 'wow how short are you' it becomes.
5ft 5 - perfect height to define very short.
5ft 6 - noticably short. will be called short but not so 'very' short.
5ft 7 - classic short. Nothing more nothing less, nothing 'wow how short!' but clearly 'short'.
5ft 8 - on the shorter side but your height isnt what you'd be known for. If described though possibly 'pretty short' would come up.
5ft 9 - Definetly a height where your more average than short. Will still be called short at times due to 'not' looking tall.
5ft 10 - A height where there is really little to say..your height is a nothing trate, probably never get mentioned.
5ft 11 - Similar to 5ft 10 with a little zest. Barely mentioned but can look 'kinda tallish'.
6ft - A height where on paper its impressive, in reality its good. You'll look 'pretty tall' but people wont generally call you tall but it is the start of a height where your - 'tall enough to call yourself tall and not be looked at oddly'.
6ft 1 - first height people will straight away see you as tall. If being described, at least 'pretty tall' would be mentioned. Its not 'wow tall' but in reverse to 5ft 8 the start of where its a trate that would be mentioned.
6ft 2 - Classic tall. IMO the only height where your not VERY tall/huge/massive/beast like etc, but your not pretty tall, kinda tall etc. Basically 6ft 2 is the height that in 1 word is just TALL.
6ft 3 - Will be called more than just tall..very or some kinda description of how your clearly a tall guy happen now.
6ft 4 - perfect height to describe as VERY tall.
6ft 5+ More than very tall..each inch the more over 99 percentile and stand out you go.
KJ says on 27/Jul/14
I came across this article Click Here entitles '20 Reasons Why Tall Guys Are The Best', which makes for pretty grim reading for any man under 6', particularly the comments sections.

Warning: Don't read if you are already feeling insecure about your height!
Emmett says on 27/Jul/14
Emmett says on 27/Jul/14
Hey Rob, you're in this video at 1:47. Why didn't you tell us you were 5'10.5 now ;)?
[Editor Rob: what link is it?]

Whoops, I forgot to attach a link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eARXYFbz9X8
[Editor Rob: that's always the problem with putting photos online, they can be used anywhere or in this case pretending to be part of the grow taller idiot program when it's from the elevator shoes page here! I'll message that guy and see if he removes it first...not the first time I have images like this used by grow taller gurus flogging their products!]
Amaze says on 27/Jul/14
anon I agree with you completely. 6'0-6'2.5 ideal and most desirable.
ben Affleck, eric bana and ashton Kutcher look good still bordering upon very tall
6'3 is lower very tall, its not in the tall category for sure its very tall or lower end very tall to be more specific

yeah chocomelo very good aha but 182 is 5'11.5 not 6
Lillo thomas says on 27/Jul/14
6'2 isn't very tall. 6'2 is only regular tall. Quit the BS.
Amaze says on 27/Jul/14
connor183cm out of all the people on here I think your opinion and my opinion match the most.the way we think about heights are the same and how we describe. we're bang on lol xD we also have the same ideals I think, 6'0-6'2 ideal. you and me are the same lol in thinking.
@grizz mate be happy you hit 6 ft atleast. you are 6' that's a very very good height. I can understand if you were 5'11 that you may be bummed for not hitting 6 but that's still a good height(5'11) be happy your still at the lower end of tall. your dads 6'1 yeah that's a better height but not much difference.. 2 cm/3 it's a minor difference. in shoes you will be that height. you are just slightly shorter it dont matter you and your dad have one of the best heights.

@198cm 100kg is good for your height I guess, I asked few other 6'6 guys they said 6'4 is the best height or optimal height they thought was best for them as 6'4 still is very tall. they say 6'5 is ok but 6'6 their height is not that good and it kinda is a bit too much, they all agreed no matter the build 200 cm or over (201-6'7) is the start of very bad. humans are not supposed to be that big. my 6'6 friends also weigh 95-100 range.
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
Anon i say perfect is 61 or 62 but the cons are that you will feel short next to 66 guys still perfect though
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
i think if your atleast 6ft 183cm you shouldn't worry about height
jamieorr4 says on 27/Jul/14
TripMcnealy i don't know but 63 seems more than tall
Connor 183cm says on 27/Jul/14
Bronson says on 26/Jul/14
hey if I am 190cm at my lowest, am I a solid 6'3? thanks

Yes you are a legit/regular 6ft 3 thats only 5mm under it at worst, so yeah 6ft 3 is your height.
RobV says on 27/Jul/14
@198cm I have to say I have never ever met anyone who says that your height is 'bad'. Most of my adult life has been spent running nightclubs so I may have a limited range of experience. But you become very accustomed to knowing genuine response between people in such situations, at the bar, on the floor etc. You are to some degree more of an observer than a participant, whether you like it or not, and you do see how such things play.

The only thing I have ever heard, indeed, is that if a tall guy (even someone of my natural height, 6'2") is very skinny, there can be a negative perception which is really something to be addressed by working out. Even if just a little. I had this myself when I was 13 and incredibly tall and skinny.

But the pluses are so great with just a little bulk, that I have also never ever been aware of any guy at that height who has seriously wanted to be shorter, for whatever reason.
RobV says on 27/Jul/14
@ Late 187cm You are quite right in that adverse comments about short heights are regarded as mean. But of course this begs a question - why is that people feel they can talk quite insultingly and negatively about people who are alpha tall but it mustn't happen the other way round.

And the answer surely is that people DO realise that the greater height is a serious plus and that in a lot of situations and societies there is an underlying resentment at inherited advantage. Otherwise they would feel the same reserve about being so negative.
Morning Star says on 27/Jul/14
a 6ft1 is why perfect?
I'm 6ft1 and my ideal is 6ft3..
chocomelo says on 27/Jul/14
6ft(182cm) with high heels is a good height for a female?
barefoot 5ft9(174cm).
Emmett says on 27/Jul/14
Hey Rob, you're in this video at 1:47. Why didn't you tell us you were 5'10.5 now ;)?
[Editor Rob: what link is it?]
Anon says on 26/Jul/14
I think the perfect height range aesthetically speaking is 6'0 - 6'2.5

5'11.5 is nearly perfect but not quite tall enough and 6'3 is definitely a bit too tall. There is no single perfect height because one height will always have it's advantages over another depending on the country you live in, sports you play, or build you have.

This is my opinion on men's heights in terms of aesthetics with a muscular/athletic build:

5'0 = 1/10
5'1 = 1/10
5'2 = 1/10
5'3 = 1/10
5'4 = 2/10
5'5 = 3/10
5'6 = 3/10
5'7 = 4/10
5'8 = 5/10
5'9 = 6/10
5'10 = 7/10
5'11 = 8/10
6'0 = 9 or 10/10
6'1 = 9 or 10/10
6'2 = 9 or 10/10
6'2.5 = 9 or 10/10
6'3 = 8.5/10
6'4 = 8/10
6'5 = 7/10
6'6 = 6/10
6'7 = 5/10

I think for women the nicest looking equivalent range is slightly different (5'7 - 5'10) with a slim build. (5'6 - 5'10) is also great. 5'4 - 5'5 is 100% acceptable but not ideal. 5'3 is the start of too short and 5'11 is the start of too tall. Above 6'0 is definitely too tall for a woman. But in my opinion tall slim 6'0 - 6'2 women have major sex appeal as a fetish, but would they be ideal for a relationship or ideal to have kids with if you are taller than 6'0 - 6'2. No. I personally wouldn't want sons more than 6'4 or daughters more than 6'0. And that's what you could get.
jamieorr4 says on 26/Jul/14
Connor 183cm you could be right i guess you could say 62 is veryish tall but my point is that legit very tall is 63 and you agree with me(:
K says on 26/Jul/14
This may be my last comment on General Height. It's not really my demographic, which is fine. I'll leave with these observations.

I can't dispute what Rob V says about his personal experience. He says he enjoys his life at his height. Good for him. OTOH, some guys, who are very tall, say that they experience problems due to their height. I have no reason to doubt them, either. Both realities can be simultaneously true.

As for insults on this board, both very tall and short guys are insulted in various ways on a regular basis. It's rarely excessively cruel but it's false to claim that either height group escapes negative comments directed at something as meaningless as height. Even below average height people don't escape the "bad" classifications based on EXTREMELY subjective opinions. It seems as if only guys from 5'10 to 6'2 seldom (if ever) have their height denigrated.
Bronson says on 26/Jul/14
hey if I am 190cm at my lowest, am I a solid 6'3? thanks
Late 187cm says on 26/Jul/14
richkid123 says on 26/Jul/14
@Mike I personally see more 5'5" guys than 6'5" guys on the street and in college.

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Makes sense as it closer to the average.
TripMcnealy says on 26/Jul/14
I disagree 6'3 is very tall, but I do think its on the border for one starts to lose that Everyman look. I still say its upper range regular tall. 6'4 is the true start of very tall because there is a very noticeable height difference over normal tall 6'1-6'2
198cm says on 26/Jul/14
I can see how people can view my height as bad though ive seen a few guys my height and they look stretched when really skinny, but I weigh about 100KG.
grizz says on 26/Jul/14
Finlander, lucky you. I've grown to 183 cm, even though my predicted height was 188. Even though predicted height formula is nonsense, it still sucks for me that I'm shorter than my dad, who's like 185-186. If I had his height, I would have never noticed other people's heights.
Connor 183cm says on 26/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 its a strong tall yes, but i think veryish tall is the perfect classification for 6ft 2, you could also say its a weak very tall, upper tall, almost very tall, somewhat very tall or on the borderline to very tall e.g whatever you want to call it.
Connor 183cm says on 26/Jul/14
@Finlander 203cm is 6ft 8 not 6ft 7.
Late 187cm says on 26/Jul/14
@ 198cm

Two interesting posts there. "If the boot was on the other foot and started calling people too short I wouldnt get away with it." - I think the majority would see it more negatively and comments like that would appear to be 'meaner'.

"I was just giving some info on what its like to be my height, which overall is a positive experience which RobV prooves by wearing lifts to achieve 6'6." - I think it would be a lot rarer to see someone reduce their height as opposed to increasing it.

Says a lot about how we view height I suppose. There are double standards, to an extent, but in simple terms, taller is usually deemed to be better than shorter.
I can't think of any time I've seen someone post comments relating to the benefits of being at the low end of the bell curve.
Jewel says on 26/Jul/14
u can walk up to someone and ask ''my, how tall are you?'' or ''you are tall!'' but you cant say 'woow your really short!'' or ''how fat are you?'' you cant voice out ''you must be the fattest person i have ever seen!'' why is this?
Connor 183cm says on 26/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 thats what i meant, 6ft 3 which is 190.5cm in case you didnt know and i do agree with you btw 6ft 3 is the start of very tall but its the low end of very tall but very tall nevertheless.

@Amaze This is what i think, 6ft low end of tall but tall, 6ft 1 low/medium tall, 6ft 2 upper tall/veryish tall, 6ft 3 low end/start of very tall, 6ft 4 low/medium very tall, 6ft 5 upper very tall on the borderline to too tall, 6ft 6 start of too tall/low end of extreme tall, 6ft 7 on the borderline of being a giant and taller than 6ft 7 is definetly in the giant category.
Amaze says on 26/Jul/14
Rob you heard of the giant of castelnau ? A medieval giant from the france probably 1000 years ago ? Apparently he was 12 ft 6 after scanning his bones etc. Hes not just a giant but a mega mega mega giant with alien dna kidding xD but woulda been crazy to see him walking around we would be like bugs to him.. What you think rob xD this is scary
Amaze says on 26/Jul/14
Hey 198cm guy i see. Hmm your opinion but i'd say 6'6 is the Absolute max then. I bet most people wouldnt wanna be this height. Theres no defending 6'7 thats near giant lol bad height
richkid123 says on 26/Jul/14
@Mike I personally see more 5'5" guys than 6'5" guys on the street and in college.
Mike says on 26/Jul/14
Amaze, you said "my 6'6 friends" just wondering how many 6'6 friends you have as it is a very rare height to see just walking down the street.
jamieorr4 says on 26/Jul/14
Connor 183cm i would say 62 is a strong tall
Michaels says on 26/Jul/14
female height
5'2" and under - too short
5'3" - 6/10,short
5'4" - 6.5/10,not bad,little short
5'5" - 7/10,decent
5'6" - 7.5/10,good
5'7" - 8/10,very good
5'8" - 10/10,perfect
5'9" - 9/10,little too tall
5'10" and over - too tall
Finlander says on 25/Jul/14
What I have noticed about height when asked from my friends and reading these comments is that everyone under 6'6" wants to be 2" taller(my assumption). I'm 6 footer myself and yes, I would love to be exactly 6'2". Almost all my friends whom I've asked about how much taller they wanted to be, they said "Bout 5cm(2")". Except this one guy who's 203cm(6'7" ish) said that It's fine maybe 1" less. I know atleast 4 guys who are 5'10" range and want those 5cm more to be 6'. And maybe the reason why those polls tend to say that 6'1" is the best is because the average is few inches lower than 6'-6'2". And amongst taller guys(over 6'3") 6'6"(2m) is pretty wanted height.

Or maybe It's that people have or had these goals. Like your predicted height and when you don't go quite there it can be irritating. For me, my predicted height is 185cm and I'm now 18yo and probably grow like max 184cm.
TJE says on 25/Jul/14
Rob, if my eye level is 166.7 cm, how tall am I?
[Editor Rob: you could be very near to 5ft 10]
Late 187cm says on 25/Jul/14
Here's a challenge for everyone, but particularly those who talk about the number of 6'0+ people they see. Next time you are out and about, in a busy street, shopping centre, university or college, take note of the number of males who fall between 5'9 and 5'11.
198cm says on 25/Jul/14
If the boot was on the other foot and started calling people too short I wouldnt get away with it.
198cm says on 25/Jul/14
Amaze I wasnt trying to say 6'2 wasnt the most ideal height I was just giving some info on what its like to be my height, which overall is a positive experience which RobV prooves by wearing lifts to achieve 6'6.
Amaze says on 25/Jul/14
listen 6'6 guys i'm not hating on you or your height. dunno if you guys remember the james bond film "tomorrow never dies" it had pierce brosnan in it. good film. the villains main henchman "Stamper"(massive blonde guy was 6'6". I'd say he had a very good build for his height, he looked pretty menacing and a convincing villain etc.
but coming to reality, 6'6 isn't the end of the world, it's a height that is lower end of extreme tall, boxer Vladimir klitsckho is also this height, its not very very bad but it is defo lower "too tall" in my eyes. 6'7 and over is way too tall, no arguments. it's just my opinion, but most if not all of the others agree 6'6 is the beginning and start of too tall. heck some even say 6'5. its not even uncommon to hear 6'3 is too tall. but 6'6 is lower too tall, 6'7 Is defo way too tall. 6'7 and over are very bad heights.
Late 187cm says on 25/Jul/14
"Zen Master says on 25/Jul/14
Flicking through the comments section it is clear to see that some people have a better understanding of height dynamics then others. When I get a little more time I shall weigh in on the matter again and attempt to clarify a few points."

I should really give you the benefit of the doubt, but I sense you will suggest that those who will be deemed to have the better understanding are those who agree with you.
Amaze says on 25/Jul/14
@Rob V I'm going by all what my 6'6 friends told me and a 6'5 user on here said at his height its uncomfortable in cars etc. i'm just stating my opinion that It seems like a uncomfortable height and I understand why, and saying its far off ideal, although not bad bad but not good either.

connor i'd say 6'2 is veryish tall yeah, its the upper range of tall, its solid tall but veryish tall yeah whilst 6'3 is lower very tall.

Jamie your below average but not short in Netherlands. short in Netherlands is 5'9 and below. avg in Netherlands is 6', I reckon you have to be 6'2 there to be tall. 6'4/5 there is the beginning of very tall there.
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
Connor 183cm honest legit very tall start at 63 imo
Bran says on 25/Jul/14
Im going to carry on the growing taller routines through 18 and try post some evidence in the future as i will carry on to post/read this site in the meantime. To anyone wanting a quick fix of ideas, i would just suggest looking into stretches; such as Rob's mentioned etc touching toes; just before bed is usually gud; growing happens 1st few hours of sleep so the more hgh the better chance, and eat well, protien shakes, fish oil, plenty of milk and if male 16-20 i would personally suggest to do weight training, not excessive to aviod stress related back injuries what would end potentail growth but generally people i know who have weight trained have grown, makes sense, stronger posture may also play apart but hgh is fueled to, and believe; finally on stretching, reaching toes, especailly sat down is painfull but effective, reaching ceiling or hand in the air and pulling up on bars, football nets worked ideally for me, work on standing better also and all the best of luck.
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
Connor 183cm maybe its getting there
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
my friend who is 59 is happy with his height and doesn't want to be taller maybe its a confidents but i also i have a friend who is 64 is happy and doesn't want to get shorter
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
my friend who is 59 is happy with his height and doesn't want to be taller maybe its a confidents but i also i have a friend who is 64 is happy and doesn't want to get shorter
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
Connor 183cm ok thanks lol im below average in Netherlands
Connor 183cm says on 25/Jul/14
Amaze or jamieorr4 do you think very-ish tall is a good classification for 6ft 2?
RobV says on 25/Jul/14
@ Amaze. You are telling a guy (198cm)he has problems with discomfort over being 6'6" when he has specifically said he doesn't suffer discomfort problems ('being uncomfortable in certain places')! This is a version of what I have said before - that some people who are not as tall try to attribute problems to being very tall that are just not there. If a guy says he loves being tall and has no discomfort, it just seems plain odd to then tell him he does have such issues!

Imagine it the other way - a 6'6" person starts telling people who are 5'4" that they have problems when they say they have just said they are happy with their height?! We can all have an opinion from our own point of view, for us personally, but attributing issues unscientifically to others when they say that they are fine and do not suffer from them can be seen as like trying to piss on the firework. "You say you are happy but I am telling you you are not".

And what on earth is this odd point about 'not wanting to stand out'? It's what we all have to do in our own way to get noticed and to win. "Oh please don't let me make a success of this tv appearance. I'll be noticed and then might get a great career. God forbid.". Or "please don't let me run too fast today and win a gold medal at the Commonwealth Games or I will stand out".
Late 187cm says on 25/Jul/14
@ RobV

He said,

- "there are more guys clustering around 5'11-6'5"
- "I'd say most guys ranged from 5'8 to 6'3"
- "I wouldn't be surprised if the average height continues going up."

He has also said that the average height in some European countries is 6'0.

I would assume, with some confidence, that he believes the average height is higher than it actually is, which is about 5'9.5".
And if he doesn't directly say or believe this you would still have to logically assume that the average would have to be higher than it really is. Because if most guys ranged from 5'8 to 6'3 then the average would have to be notably higher than 5'9.5". He makes it sound like it is around 5'11.5"

It's Late 187cm by the way. I'm not 198cm and I do not aspire to be.
Zen Master says on 25/Jul/14
Flicking through the comments section it is clear to see that some people have a better understanding of height dynamics then others. When I get a little more time I shall weigh in on the matter again and attempt to clarify a few points.
Connor 183cm says on 25/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 The Netherlands average height i think is 6ft-6ft 0.5 range, people on here can correct me if im wrong, i think to be tall in the Netherlands you'd need to be at least 6ft 2, you can correct me if im wrong about that too, and yeah i guess my height is somewhat perfect, 6ft-6ft 1 is quite tall but not that much over average its in the 80-85th percentile so they are both tall heights but not that tall, they blend in perfectly in crowds yes, 6ft 2 will stand out a little but not by much, i know what your'e saying its borderling to very tall range (im not saying its very tall, as in borderling i mean its nearly in the very tall range is what i mean, its strong tall or pretty tall), 190.5cm is the start of very tall.
Mike says on 25/Jul/14
I love how people on here are quick to state what they think is too tall but not what is too short, probably because their in that short area and are too sensitive to discuss it.
RobV says on 25/Jul/14
@198cm Indeed, anyone I have ever known who is in the 6'6" region would not trade a single inch. They might not rejoice in it openly for fear of offending people who are shorter. But all the time they hear from those who are not that height that it is somehow some sort of a bad thing.

It tends to remind me of people who go an about how terrible it must be to be rich, citing odd stuff and news stories thus 'proving' that no-one wants to be well off. Hmmm. Again I stress I am not someone of that height - I am 6'2" and use lifts/elevators to get to that kind of height. And I know the great advantages it gives me - my only caveat being that when I was 13/15 and already 6'2" and skinny I honestly uses to think I WAS too tall. Till someone made me realise it was not my height but my shape that was not toot attractive. Having done something about that, I quickly realised that in my business, taller was definitely better.
RobV says on 25/Jul/14
Late198cm And of course, as you know, Zen Master did not actually say that 'average height' had risen to the level you suggest he did. He surely did not make any such claim. He suggested that 'the bar' for being considered a great height (and possibly too tall, though he did not say so) had risen, which it does appear to have done.
Bud says on 25/Jul/14
TT says on 24/Jul/14
Vagueness height is a nonentity.

perfect&Best height
male-189cm
female-175cm
model, sports(basketball and volleyball is exclusion), general life, sex, bus seat, train, date, social caste, clothes..all comfortable height

Umm,what has height to do with SEX?
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
Connor 183cm the reason why i thought 61 was better than 62 is because at 61 you still can blend in i think at 62 you can struggle to blend in
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
Chris 6ft is perfect if you like to blend in more but still i think perfect is between 61 62
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
i think 61 62 is tall but not very tall very tall start at 63 and 66 is very very tall
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
Connor 183cm i would say your a weak perfect if that made sense Amaze 64 is not perfect but its still ok its not too tall
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
198cm no offence but i thought it was a little too tall because your taller than most people and i thought you bing you head on things but still be proud of who you are though i know guy whos about 68 and i say that too tall but hes nice guy though
jamieorr4 says on 25/Jul/14
198cm no offence but i thought it was a little too tall because your taller than most people and i thought you bing you head on things i know guy whos about 68 and i say that too tall but hes nice guy
Amaze says on 25/Jul/14
Hi 198cm guy no offense to you but your height definitely is too tall.. Either the beginning of too tall for some or the second height that is. Id say its the beginning but not too bad. 6'7 and over is way too bad. Your height isnt bad like a 5'3 way but it also isnt good like the 6" 0-6'2 way if you know what i mean, plus 6'6 guys stand out too much, and back problems and joint problems etc when your older also banging head on doorways and being uncomfortable in certain places. I'd pick 6'6 over 5'6 dont get me wrong but the best range is 6'0-6'2 your height is tall but not ideal for sure and it is far from it .. 6'0-6'2 the best ideal tall you understand ?
MrTBlack says on 25/Jul/14
Best heights in regards to female attraction IMO.

6'0"-6'2"= A+. Your not too tall or too short for women unless she's over 5'10".

6'3" 6'4" B and C+= Your a little bit excessive in height maybe a small factor but generally speaking can be compromised if your toned and look good.

6'5"-6'6"= D,height is becoming a disadvantage. Look strange and someone monstrous for a good amount of women.

6'7 and above F= Your out of the game unless your a famous NBA player or extremely wealthy. If you are this tall there is a good chance it's health related.
MrTBlack says on 25/Jul/14
Best heights in regards to female attraction IMO.

6'0"-6'2"= A+. Your not too tall or too short for women unless she's over 5'10".

6'3" 6'4" B and C+= Your a little bit excessive in height maybe a small factor but generally speaking can be compromised if your toned and look good.

6'5"-6'5"= D,height is becoming a disadvantage. Look strange and someone monstrous for a good amount of women.

6'7 and above F= Your out of the game unless your a famous NBA player or extremely wealthy. If you are this tall there is a good chance it's health related.
6ft1 guy says on 25/Jul/14
please..6ft1 is not perfect..
it'a good but not perfect..
all 6f1 fans: under 6ft1 height...100%
198cm says on 24/Jul/14
Im a legit 6'6 guy and wouldnt say my height is "perfect" but I definately dont think its a bad height like some people here are suggesting, I get positive comments all the time, and never feel uncomfortable in cars etc, and I dont think standing out is a bad thing why would it be, you never have to fight to be noticed which is great.
jamieorr4 says on 24/Jul/14
whats the average height in the Netherlands? and whats considered tall in Netherlands? for man
Amaze says on 24/Jul/14
I agree connor 6'4'' aint bad at all, but its not perfect. I think thats the very tall height which is the best or max with no problems etc. The good thing about 6'2'' is that youll probably never drop below 6'' in your life defo, youll be 6'1 in 60s and 70s and 6'0 in 80s and 90s etc. So many celebs make 6'2 look good, but ronaldo makes 6'1 look soo good
Jay C says on 24/Jul/14
I just turnd 17 I am a 6ft1 male and still growing
TT says on 24/Jul/14
Vagueness height is a nonentity.

perfect&Best height
male-189cm
female-175cm
model, sports(basketball and volleyball is exclusion), general life, sex, bus seat, train, date, social caste, clothes..all comfortable height
jamieorr4 says on 24/Jul/14
Connor 183cm yes i argee with you 62 is the perfect height not 61 or 64 but still i put 61 in the perfect height range
RobV says on 24/Jul/14
Well, Crash, give it a go. Try it out first at a time when you are just walking around, say shopping or going for an hour somewhere: you can in fact slip an inch into most trainers and it will give you some idea. In hi top trainers you can get a bit more in there. And many of these like a lot of Air Jordans have soles that are seriously big anyway, so you get some good lift. Even an inch makes you feel quite different and a lot taller at first, specially at our kind of height. I only came to it because I tried to do it a bit amateurishly at first when I was a bit younger than you (18/19) and already 6'2", using made-up lifts in my boots and gradually working out what to do. I just got higher and higher but always making sure I don't compromise the style or image. You can do it home made, but I suggest getting a few lift kits or something. Waaay more comfortable. Buy different styles - it's amazing how sometimes the long ones with added height right along the foot (higher at heel obviously) work well, and in other situations only the smaller heel lifts do. Have a selection. Pluses and minuses. And the best way to really test it out in a way that is not detectable, and allows for max lift, is big boots. Of any type.

Much depends upon the fashion style you are into. But for me, I have tended at the moment to go for a skinny jeans/heavy boot style that is current, like Docs or Ranger styles. I finally bought some elevators in the style last year that are closest to that on the market, the d'Etnas, from Dons. Expensive but really worth it. I also, though, use my old Docs and Rangers of which I have loads of pairs, two sizes larger than my real size, and can get a 3" height lift easily with them, undetectable, using various lifts. But with the elevators, which have a 5" lift, I bought these too in a larger size and I achieve my max height lift in those when I add another inch of lift. I get to about 6'6"/2m. So I am wearing them 24/7 right now!

My suggestion is to get some boots in a larger size or 2 than your normal size, add 2 inches of lifts or more and see how you go. It will feel interesting at first but you will get used to it.

Take care at first of the area around where your pants meet your footwear. In some things, the lifts can be detectable, or you yourself might be concerned. It's not as much of a problem as some people say, but bootcut jeans almost certainly will cover. Oddly, my d'Etnas with the 5" lifts go so well with the skinny jeans current in the UK and Europe that I break all the rules and totally expose the boots, which is a good style with skinnies. They usually say that exposure like this makes the elevator too obvious, which I absolutely do NOT want to happen. But it's a fact that if you look at MOST big boots like Doc Martens or Rangers, they can look as if they have elevators anyway. V chunky/reinforced at the heel. That's why they are good to add lifts to. As I am tall anyway, I just wear the skinnies either tucked in or slightly over the top of the boot and no-one has ever noticed.

But for you, try it carefully at first. And one night, go out with a really big lift, on a kind of night time occasion when you feel that you will not be too self conscious. You'll be amazed at how no-one knows. But at the level you will reach, I guarantee a response and that you will feel really good. The only thing you ever tend to get from those you know is "I never knew you were so tall". People are just not so observant in that detailed way so think they have 'just noticed' you are so tall. I could say a lot more but it would go on too long here in one post. Anything more, just ask me more by all means. Or write me at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
Connor 183cm says on 24/Jul/14
@Amaze i did used to think my height 6ft is perfect, but now im not so sure, hmm i dont know man id say 6ft-6ft 2 is the perfect range anyway.
Late 187cm says on 24/Jul/14
@ RobV

This is getting really off topic now but I think you're a little misinformed regarding the online world and 'real' life. The online world is just as real. You can be charged for defamtion and abuse just as easily as you can be offline. What's published is published regardless of the format.
Just type troll jailed into google and you will see numerous cases.

I did not call you names and I made it clear that I misunderstood your post, although I still can't understand why you make such a big distinction between what you read online and hear offline. It doesn't stop you agreeing with those who share your opinion. Why would you bother reading and posting online if you don't believe any of it?
I think you're starting to play the victim a little now.

I have never tried to change your opinion that 6'5/6 is a great height. That is your choice and you are welcome to it. I've simply pointed out that most people here would disagree and do so regularly.
I think you are becoming a little defensive now.

You asked me why I found it hard to accept Zen Master's assertions and I told you.
His concept of average height, how it is increasing and the number of above average heights is skewed and statistically incorrect.
french guy says on 24/Jul/14
i'm the only one who consider limb lengthening?
I'm almost 183 cm and my goal is 187 cm.
It's astonishing that no one here raised the topic since many don't seem happy with their height.
I think if i was 185 cm at night, i would never have considered it, because it's around the 75-80th percentile for young people, and i think it's tall enough, but i'm not going to do it just for 2 centimeters.
Crash says on 24/Jul/14
teej, you always come here posting meaningless nonsense.

I mean an average of 5'11"-6'2" for "our" generation, did your really delude yourself to somehow believe that?

And your point about there being nobody your age shorter than you just shows how deluded you how. You obviously are completely blocking out all of the "shorter" people... the country makes no difference as the country is obviously not THAT much taller than UK.
Chris says on 24/Jul/14
I think there's no perfect height. But 6ft is the perfect height to me.
Connor 183cm says on 24/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 6ft 4 is definetly not perfect its a bit too tall but not bad though.
Crash says on 24/Jul/14
RobV, you've really got me thinking about this whole lift thing and I'd love to try it, see if what you say is true and if I notice a difference in peoples' reactions and such. Like when you said those 3 guys came in and just dominated haha

I was always pretty skeptical about your posts but I have an open mind and am willing to try it out. What kind of footwear would I need exactly to slip some lifts in? I'm 6'1", 21 and just wear trainers but don't think that would work so well in them. I'm completely new to the whole idea so I'd appreciate any advice.
Connor 183cm says on 24/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 6ft 5 is on the borderline of being too tall but not quite, 6ft 6+ definetly way too tall.

@Rob yeah i thought he was 5ft, he did say he was measured 5ft on a stadiometer at the hospital, before when he was younger i measured him he was a fraction under 5ft, he was 12 years old then i think so he's grown.
Bud says on 24/Jul/14
Ideal male height vote results:
6'5 or more 354
6'4 304
6'3 3190
6'2 6731
6'1 6856
6'0 6554
5'11 6434
5'10 4862
5'9 2687
5'8 1654
5'7 176
Less then 5'7 156

Usually this is the order in every poll about best male heights,i showed this one,because it has the most participants.Every single poll is won by 6'1 or 6'2.
Amaze says on 24/Jul/14
josh I pretty much agree with all of what you've said. id say 6 is better than 6 2 and 6 is closer to 6 1 than 6 1 is with 6 2 but 6 2 is still pretty good. and I understand what your saying with 6 1 perfect in reality and 6 2 in theory. out of the two i'd prefer to be a 6'1, but I still think 6'2 is good.

@kroc yeah I was born in London im british but my origins are from india. currently visting. Amitabh bachchan his father was a defo 188cm back in the day. he was probably 190 upon waking. with abishek hes still pretty tall I reckon slightly shorter. I think abishek is a 6'1.5-75 yeah, he at times looks 6'2, next to 5'10 hrithik roshan he looks a legit 4 inches taller so maybe he could be 6'2 but he defo is over 6'2 waking up. maybe 6'1.5 is his low?


6'0 is a very good height and is near ideal though, imo its 9.5/10
6'1 is ideal and perfect. i'd give it 10/10
6'2 is good too, i'd give that 9/10
6'3 is getting taller, still ok but not as good 8/10
6'4 is near too tall, its a bit big but not bad 7/10
6'5 is borderline, its still decent but its big. 6/10
6'6 is too tall for sure, bad height beginning, 5/10
6'7 and over less than 4/10+ too bad.
jamieorr4 says on 24/Jul/14
does anyone think 64 is perfect? i don't think its too tall i say 65 is were your starting to be come too tall and 66 is a legit too tall
RobV says on 24/Jul/14
Late 187cm Sorry but the courts in the UK and the USA make an enormous distinction between what is said anonymously online and what is said on the record by a named person. As indeed do most authorities and opinion formers/experts/scientists when it comes to regarding evidence - no-one gives the same credence to a supposed online survey by 'anon' saying that women find 5'9" guys "too tall" (carried out by someone posting here) to something done in scientific conditions by named experts (who of course will still suffer limitations).

No one argument is perfect, but the key to tolerance and getting to the truth is not forcing someone to agree and then using unfortunate language and insult when they will not. It is in the way we respond and discourse - not name calling because someone disagrees and not describing others' opinions rudely or emotively.

Height, specially at the top end, is clearly an emotive subject as one can witness here - no-one here disses someone who says 'I like being 5'9" ', but plenty diss others who say "I like being 6'5". On that basis, one tends to rather discount views that are intended to attack such heights and 'prove' they are not desirable. As I have said before, in 15 years of involvement with nightclubs I have never ever met a single person who says or shows that they think a 6'6" built guy is too tall. It is the exact opposite. I cannot change my experience and it is not disregarding others' views to say so, specially when I tend to do it in responding to people saying as fact that women do not like men at that height and that it is 'too tall'/'law of diminishing returns'/'one out of 10' etc. They never give really sound examples from their experience, only their opinions. It is simply a fact of my experience and it is why I like to get to that height myself from my 6'2".

If a girl I fancied came to me and said "you are too tall", or acted as if I were, I might rethink! But I do not think it ever will happen. I learned this 15 years ago at the start of my work when 3 guys all around 6'6" and built came to a club I was helping with. They dominated the place and just had the pick. Period.
jamieorr4 says on 24/Jul/14
Connor 183cm i think your right im starting to think 62 is better than 61
jamieorr4 says on 24/Jul/14
6ft1 guy i agree with you i think 61 is the start of tall but still can't it be perfect
Connor 183cm says on 24/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 i agree 186-188cm is the best range.
Connor 183cm says on 24/Jul/14
Rob you didnt answer my question, how tall would my brother be if his head is at my shoulder level? 5ft?
[Editor Rob: yes roughly around that mark]
Mr. R says on 24/Jul/14
Anybody going to Comic Con in San Diego this weekend? A lot of big celebs go now. Maybe someone can get a pic with Pitt, or Stallone, or Cruise.
Josh says on 24/Jul/14
Okay so to the guys who said ideal height is like 6'4 or 6'5, I respect your opinion but I disagree.

And to any guys who say 6'0 or under, I would disagree too.

To me 6'1 probably is ideal, but 6'2 sounds better. Ideal height is clearly 6'1-6'2 if you guy by height polls of women and men actually.

To me a 6'1 lean guy like Cristiano Ronaldo has a "perfect" looking body structure. Anything shorter than that looks "not quite enough" for ideal imo. On the other hand a 6'2 ripped Ryan Reynolds type is great, but I don't know if he looks quite as "in balance" as 6'1, yet I admit 6'2 sounds better and very few if any girls would say he is too tall.

Perhaps I am taking this a bit too seriously...but I would say 6'1 is perfect in reality, 6'2 is perfect in theory (and might feel better to be.)

Make sense to anyone?
KROC says on 24/Jul/14
In my opinion 6'1 and 6'2 are both "perfect" I mean its only an inch, so there's not really much to differentiate.
@Amaze Your from India right? How tall do you think Bollywood star Abhishek Bachchan is? My guess would be 6'1.5
TG says on 24/Jul/14
If. Im 5'6.5 at 16 but my dad is 6'1 And mom is 5'2 how tall will i be when im 21
TG says on 24/Jul/14
If. Im 5'6.5 at 16 but my dad is 6'1 And mom is 5'2 how tall will i be when im 21
dude says on 23/Jul/14
yes, Finn males under 25 years old average height is about 181 cm, read this from various researches. I'm Finnish btw
teej says on 23/Jul/14
Im from the uk, just went on holiday to amsterdam with my friends to ceebrating completing our a levels, its true what they say the dutch are tall! Im 187cm, 6.1.5 im born in the 90's average height over here is 5'10, but for my generation i believe its 5'11-6'2 tbh, anyways, the guys my age were all like 6'4-6'5 apparently the average height there is 6'1 185cm, so i was supposed to be a little over average, but thr thing is only people over like 40 were like 6'1, i saw so many peoplr taller than me i felt inferior, these guys my age 18 are like 6'3-6'5. The 'tall' guys ovet there were like 6'7 plus. Its bloody crazy! A nation of giants!
jamieorr4 says on 23/Jul/14
danny185night i would say perfect is between 185cm to 188cm
Connor 183cm says on 23/Jul/14
@Amaze 6ft 3 is a wee bit too tall but not by much its not a bad height though, its only at the low end of very tall/the start of very tall range, 6ft 6 is defo too tall.
6ft1 guy says on 23/Jul/14
6ft1 is not real tall. it's a weak tall. 6ft3 is real tall.
i think 6ft2 6ft3 6ft4 is a best. 6ft5.. is start too tall..
Amaze says on 23/Jul/14
Maybe there is no perfect height. But 6'2 is definitely near it. Perfect range 183-188 ( 6 to 6'2)
Late 187cm says on 23/Jul/14
@ RobV

Thanks for the tip an sorry for my misunderstanding. I think you could describe it as lost in translation over the internet. Heard/read/saw are all ways we absorb information, and are sometimes a figure of speech rather than a wholly accurate way of describing how you have come to understand something. If you said you've never heard or read it, it would be farcical given the amount of times 6'5/6 is described as too tall on this thread. But that's not what you said, so I am sorry I misread your comment.

I just find it a little odd that you'd disregard all the opinions expressed on here and make such a distinction between what you hear in public and what you read online. Sometimes anonymity can encourage people to be more candid, but of course, and unfortunately, it can cause them to be disingenuous.
What you write online is generally covered by the same laws that apply offline. The courts make no distinction.
Connor 183cm says on 23/Jul/14
Rob my little brothers head is at my shoulder level and im 6ft so how tall would he be? am i a foot taller?
Connor 183cm says on 23/Jul/14
@jamieorr4 well 6ft 2 is in the strong tall range and you have 4 inches over the young 5ft 10 guys so its comfortably way above the average height for young guys so you will feel solidly tall in all of the young, middle age and old generations of people, basically you would feel tall all the time even with 6ft 4 and 6ft 5 guys so you wouldn't appear much shorter than them, its even borderling to very tall, but id still say its just strong tall, 6ft 1 low but borderling to upper tall (not strong tall, 6ft 1.5-75 i think is safely in that range), 6ft low tall but still tall, but anyway except with the extremley tall guys who range from 6ft 6-6ft 8 then maybe you wouldn't feel tall, with 6ft 6 guys maybe you'd still feel tall but only quite tall, but with 6ft 8 guys you defo will be towered, but thats very rare to see guys that tall and 6ft 2 looks sexy on men who have good looks it adds that tall, dark and handsome look so its a very good height for attracting women thats why i think its the best, 6ft 3 is good aswell but not as good as 6ft 2 in my opinion.
Mike says on 23/Jul/14
Would you guys say its more common to see a 5'5 man then it is to see a 6'5 man on a regular basis?
jamieorr4 says on 23/Jul/14
Connor 183cm you could but right about 62 being perfect but still why do you think its perfect?
RobV says on 23/Jul/14
PS in areas like this, first hand experience of opinion in group situations is always more useful than throwaway statements on he web. Anyone can say anything that suits, particularly if they might have an issue about height. I reiterate what I have said before - when I was in my mid teens, I myself was bothered that I quickly grew to 6'2", was skinny as a rake and wished I was not as tall.

Then I realised that in fact my height was not really the issue. It was my need to add a bit of muscle size. Not loads necessarily. Just a bit. It made a massive difference and then when taller built guys came into my club, I realised that they had an advantage by being a few inches taller. Not a great advantage but a definable one. I have never heard anything in my line of work that causes me to alter that opinion and have never heard anyone describe built guys around 6'6" as too tall.
RobV says on 23/Jul/14
@late 187cm. I think the key is not to use overly emotive words, describing others' actual experiences of what they have heard as 'farcical' etc.
Late 187cm says on 23/Jul/14
@ RobV

Ok, so you've never actually 'heard' it. But you've certainly read it a few times.
Do you simply disregard all opinions online as disingenuous, or is it only the ones you disagree with?
That can work both ways you know. For example, I've never, in all my experience, heard someone claim that 6'5/6 is an ideal height. So should I disregard that?
I read 6'5/6 is too tall more than I read it is is ideal.
This comment, " for example someone here yesterday said that women had told him 5'9" was 'too tall'", is not something I would read regularly. It illustrates an unusual opinion not something expressed regularly.
A preference for 6'5/6 as an ideal is somewhat unusual. 6'1/6'2 is often preferred more often.
Absolutely nothing wrong with it though, it's just a personal preference.
Amaze says on 23/Jul/14
mike thanks lol. hmm I dunno 6'5 and 6'6 are an inch difference. 6'5 is too tall for some but 6'6 defo is. all I know is that 6'0-6'2 are the best. late187cm what you just said I agree with plus lots say 6'3 is too tall people I know. imagine being with a girl you come back she suddenly sees you 4-5 inchs shorter. that's a major turnoff. rob just stay at 6'2 that's better than 5/6.

connor I reckon 6'0 1 2 are the 3 perfect heights. if you do not believe your height to be, it actually is or is very near it. i'd rate them all very highly.

6'0-1 men shouldn't have any problems with anything being tall. no doorway problems, no car problems at all. 6'2 men may get a bit of car problems, 6'3 defo
Amaze says on 23/Jul/14
@Liilo Thomas I live in England or uk. in our school doorways(im 17) hes 6'5 and 6'6 in shoes like you he always has to duck under them or he will bang his head the movement he does looks funny like the matrix. and then yeah he got into our friends car and hes was extremely unmcofortble. when he was 6'3.5 last year I remember his head nearly hit it but now hes 6'5 he hits it so he has to duck.

Lillo what height do you think is when you wouldn't havea a problem in cars. 6'2? 1?
Amaze says on 23/Jul/14
@Liilo Thomas I live in England or uk. in our school doorways(im 17) hes 6'5 and 6'6 in shoes like you he always has to duck under them or he will bang his head the movement he does looks funny like the matrix. and then yeah he got into our friends car and hes was extremely unmcofortble. when he was 6'3.5 last year I remember his head nearly hit it but now hes 6'5 he hits it so he has to duck.

Lillo what height do you think is when you wouldn't havea a problem in cars. 6'2? 1?
RobV says on 23/Jul/14
@ Late187cm. I said I had never 'heard anyone say' a built guy at 6'6" was too tall, and I haven't. To clarify and make the point simpler, I have met quite a few people in my clubs who are about 6'6" and well built and have never ever heard any third party say "too tall". Anyone anonymously can say anything online - for example someone here yesterday said that women had told him 5'9" was 'too tall'. Well quite.

But, as I said, I have never heard anyone say that - so it is not 'farcical' for me to say I have never 'heard' anyone say that!
Stevie says on 23/Jul/14
Concerned 181 cm says on 23/Jul/14
So I just had a thought: Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Germany are among the tallest countries in the world, with average young male heights of 5'11-6'0.

Do you have facts for these heights?
Stevie says on 23/Jul/14
Concerned 181 cm says on 23/Jul/14
So I just had a thought: Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Germany are among the tallest countries in the world, with average young male heights of 5'11-6'0.

Do you have facts for these heights?
Late 187cm says on 23/Jul/14
@ RobV

I don't think I am stretching it because I never argued against the assertion that, "that there are more guys around 6'5"/6'6" around now than there were half a century ago." You are misrepresenting what I said if you claim I have. I wouldn't argue against a balanced assertion such as that, but I would argue against comments such as, "you can be a 6'6 guy today and blend in pretty normally." Because they are sensationalist, inaccurate and unbelievable.

My main issue was with the idea that the average had gone up notably and in particular with comments such as, "there are more guys clustering around 5'11-6'5", "I'd say most guys ranged from 5'8 to 6'3." and "I wouldn't be surprised if the average height continues going up."
Most people fall a couple of inches either side of the average. So maybe 5'7.5 to 5'11.5 would be a good range where most males would fall into.

I honestly find the following statement somewhat farcical, "I have never heard in all my experience someone genuinely say that a 6'6" built guy is 'too tall' or 'too big'." Do yo read the posts here? Just look at the recent posts from the day you posted.

- Amaze says on 22/Jul/14, "6'5 is borderline 6'6 is too tall."
- Aaron183cm says on 22/Jul/14, "6'2 can *sometimes* (keyword, sometimes) appear a little too tall especially if you have a thin frame."

We see these kind of posts on a regular basis. They are not right or wrong just opinions. But an opinion that is regularly expressed is that 6'5/6 is too tall, under any circumstances. Some would even say that 6'3+ is too tall. So I don't understand how you can claim you've never heard someone claim that a 6'6 guy is too tall.
danny185night says on 23/Jul/14
let's get real ppl, in real world 184 night is easily tall at least 80th percentile with young 20-25yold guys, and kinda perfect height, tall but never too tall, ideal for clothes, cars, girls, social life, sport, modeling,...
6'0.5 is not wow tall but just tall and u'll encounter many guys shorter than u, many at around your height but just a few really taller (2-3 inches plus). Overall is great to be tall but also to blend in in the normal tall range...i think is kinda perfect what do u think guys? Than you. My perfect range (184-186 night)
Concerned 181 cm says on 23/Jul/14
So I just had a thought: Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Germany are among the tallest countries in the world, with average young male heights of 5'11-6'0. Added together, they collectively have a smaller population than the country of Japan, where the average male height is 5'7. Another example: France, where the average is 5'9 flat, has more people than most tall countries combined ('cept Germany). And Germany's average being that high is somewhat debatable...

I say that because it indicates that the average height of a 1st world male isn't that high (the average male height worldwide is IIRC 5'7, but that's partly due to countries with huge populations of people with poor health and as a result stunted growth, like India, where the average is 5'5), as while a lot of countries have high averages, that doesn't translate to THAT many tall people. I'm pretty sure that if someone were to get an average male height for the whole 1st world, it'd be below the average male height of the U.S. (5'9.5). Am I wrong?
K says on 22/Jul/14
@Late 187cm: That's all very true. 6'6 people definitely stick out in most crowds. It's just common sense. I agree with every word in your post.
KROC says on 22/Jul/14
@RobV
I wasn't suggesting anything. It was merely sarcasm. About you wearing lifts/elevators to get to 6'5/6'6... well that's your prerogative. I will say you might be the 1st legitimately tall guy I've heard of who does this. I don't think there's anything wrong with that though. Your explanations of why you do it make perfect sense. It's just not something that I would do personally.
RobV says on 22/Jul/14
btw 184.9 on a bad day, generally speaking you are broadly right about lifts alone. You can get more than 2cm (which is less than an inch) in many shoes (and particularly boots) but not a lot more in an average pair of shoes. Aiming to get 3" with lifts alone is difficult and is only possible with certain types of boots and working it all out carefully with regard to sizes and roominess of particular styles - and that can limit what you might want to buy.

For the record, I have managed this (in certain, but not all, styles of Doc I still wear them and they look great.

You suggest my real height of 6'2" is "better", but of course that is for you and not for me - my own experience shows that for me these extra few inches work and are effective.

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