General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added mention it on this page.
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179cm said on 3/May/16
James B said on 1/May/16
Oh guys you will never believe this

I was at a friends wedding party (we were all drunk) and some guy described me as "6ft3"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my entire life so far that has got to the tallest I have been guessed at. So my height range has been guessed at 5'8 up to 6'3.

Basically you can't be taller than you are. If people are guessing you as being much taller then they are probably largely embellishing their height themselves. Either that or they aren't very good at gauging height. Perhaps both of those apply.
c-mo said on 3/May/16
Chevy said on 1/May/16
Hi what is the perfect height range for men and women barefoot?

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180 - 185cm for men

167 - 172cm for women
Canary said on 3/May/16
Truth mentioned that boys get their "height genes" from their mothers and that girls get their "height genes" from their fathers. I once thought this too, but it turned out that it wasn't always true. If it was true, we would see more instances where grown sisters would be taller than their grown brothers.
Canson said on 3/May/16
@Rick: Hypothetical question!!! so what do you do when a legit 5'10 tells you they are 5'10? Do you slowly back away from your "insecure" bs claim that you have been saying for years? Or do you try to bull**** and induce them to lie about their height? Either way you want it, Nothing you said makes a bit of damn sense. So because everyone else lies, you do it lol??? So if everyone else tied themselves to railroad tracks and waited for a moving train, would you do the same?? It just means you are insecure if you have to say something that is not true and try to bull**** people into believing you are something you aren't.
David said on 3/May/16
If you are 5'9 and up, you are fine, of course the good height is 5'11 and up.
juwes said on 3/May/16
@ bolero, you can add Rick in that list as well. Most likely at the number 1 spot.
James B said on 3/May/16
on the topic of height and sport.

My former friends dad was a well known basketball player in Argentina (where he was originally from) and was listed on one site at 6'5 (194cm) which is ridiculous because in person he looked 6'1 range.

Back in 2000 I saw him play at basketball match near London (he plays for the BBL) and I remember he looked on the short side compared to some players on his team which is not suprising if your 6'1 in the basketball world. He also played a basketball match at the Wembley arena back in 1987.

Interesting as well because according to google average height of a basketball player is '6ft' which I am not convinced is true?
CS said on 3/May/16
@175 cm we seem to have an incredibly similar (almost the same) ideal male height range. Nice :) Something about the 180s is nice. The numbers right outside can be good (179 cm and 190 cm) but the farther you stray from the 180s range (on either side) the less and less ideal it becomes.
175 cm said on 3/May/16
James I think a legit 6'4" is faster than a heavyweight giant like Fury or Walujew... I think the effect of height isn't that important. But you need to have very long arms so you can keep your opponent at distance.
Alex said on 3/May/16
Rob, a 190 cm guy should have a eye level around 178 cm, right? Could be possible to be 189 cm and have a eye level of 178 cm instead 177?
Editor Rob: it's certainly possible if they have a higher than average eyelevel, or simply are raising their eyes up slightly when getting an idea of where the eyes are.
Joey said on 3/May/16
Its weird that heights like 5'8, 5'7, are considered short on the internet, while in real life they are considered average. Even 5'11-6' is considered average online, while in real life they are considered tall.
James said on 3/May/16
According to the poll, it seems like 6 ft 1/ 6 ft 2 is the best heights for men.
James B said on 2/May/16
in the denerick Alps in 2005 the average height for men was measured at a solid 6'1 and 5'7 1/2 for women.

That would mean.............

You would have to be 6'3-6'4 to be considered tall
At 5'11 you would be short
6'7-6'8 would be the start of very tall
Canary said on 2/May/16
@truth: My post was for the whole forum, but I always loved that movie! :)

I have a question for you or anyone. Do you think that there are places, in the US, where the average white American woman (20-39) is at or close to 5'6 or 5'7? How about 5'2 or 5'3?
James said on 2/May/16
@plus
Is there any regional differences in average height of Spanish men. Example : northern Spain is taller than south.
CS said on 2/May/16
@Chevy I'm not so sure about females but for males many consider the ideal to be 180 cm - 188 cm (5'11" - 6'2")
James said on 2/May/16
@nikekaishi
Which part of the U.S did you go to ?
175 cm said on 2/May/16
@plus good classification!

@chevy probably anywhere in between 180 and 189cms (5ft 11 to 6ft 2.5) would be nice...
James B said on 1/May/16
Oh guys you will never believe this

I was at a friends wedding party (we were all drunk) and some guy described me as "6ft3"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my entire life so far that has got to the tallest I have been guessed at. So my height range has been guessed at 5'8 up to 6'3.
James said on 1/May/16
@ plus
So you're telling me the king of Spain Felipe vi is uncommonly tall, like everywhere he goes he stands out from the crowd even if he were a normal guy?
So the entire Spanish royal family are like giants for Spain's height standards.
truth said on 1/May/16
@Johan and 179cm Well my mom is was a solid 5ft5 peak (now 5ft4.5), dad was 5ft11.5 peak (now 5ft11), sister is 5ft6 and I am 5ft10. It does seem pretty legit, only might I add that boys get their height from their mother and girls from their father ( both me and my mom are about average, dad and sister above average).
James said on 1/May/16
I do agree, in heavyweight boxing the best height is around 6'6/6'7.
@bolero
I didn't say the average women in my campus is 6'2. I said occasionally you would come across a 6'2 woman.
However 5'10/ 5'11 is plentiful on campus.
James B said on 1/May/16
6ft is tall....... But if the average for young men is really 5ft10 then you could argue its upper end of average and 5'7 is a legit short man.
A2Z said on 1/May/16
@Editor Rob, Here's an interesting question Rob, If someone poses with their hands in their pockets for a photo, how much height would they lose (especially if they hadn't had enough sleep lol)? or how about posing with arms folded?
Editor Rob: I doubt it has any effect unless the action of putting hands into pockets somehow changes slightly the person's posture, and they maintain a slightly worse stance.
truth said on 1/May/16
@Kevin Where are you from? If you are from USA then you are nearing 95th percentile with this height (average for all races and ages is 176cm or 5ft9.5). Only for young white guys it is as high as 179cm, you are about 85th percentile. Anyway you are always tall with this height, a lot of times even very tall. In Europe average is a bit higher and even in the tallest countries you should feel slightly above average.
James B said on 1/May/16
Rob my brother has been claiming 6'1 as his height even back in 2007 when he was a bit shorter than he is currently.

I remember 4 years ago he measured me against a wall with a tape measure at 5'7 and then measured himself against the same wall and then in a sad voice uttered "I am 5'11 according to the tape measure".

4 years later he still claims 6'1 as height and when I say "your 5'11" he denies it and says "I am taller than that".

My bro has claimed 6ft range for his height too within the last 10 years but do you think rob he has the maybe the 'the Glenn height denial complex.?

I guess guys who are not short can still feel insecure about there height?
Editor Rob: being an inch off 6 feet, he clearly likes to say it...how much of an issue with height he has is much harder to tell.

Many are 'at it', but people are entitled to claim what they want. It is up to others whether they feel silly or ludicrous claims should be challenged, or whether to adopt silence.

I say challenge them to be honest. Nobody really cares if you are 6ft or 5ft 11, but you will be respected more if you are honest about such a simple measurement as your height.
truth said on 1/May/16
@Canary That is a form of colloquial expression from "The dude" Lebowski ;)
James said on 1/May/16
@plus
Since you're living in Spain and it's near Portugal and Andorra. Do you have any idea of how tall the average man and women in these two countries. I haven't been to Spain and these two.
NikeKaishi said on 1/May/16
I'm 5'8 and this is how I felt in different countries:
Mexico - Tall
France - Above average
Spain - Above average
US - Average
UK - Average
Germany - Short
South-Korea - Short
Netherlands - Very Short
truth said on 1/May/16
@James Oh ok then we agree, sorry, must have misunderstood you.
Hardi said on 1/May/16
I live in Estonia and I must say 6ft is rather average here and the breaking point from average to tall would be 6'2 which I get with shoes on, barefoot I'm 6'0.5
truth said on 1/May/16
@Rick That is like me claiming 6ft0, you know that is BS when I am near or at 5ft10 at worst at night (measured with an aerosol can). Still 5ft8 is not THAT short, but it is 2 inches below average. 5ft8.5 only towers the vast majority of women and a few % of very short men below 5ft7.
Chevy said on 1/May/16
Hi what is the perfect height range for men and women barefoot?
FiveNine said on 1/May/16
@Mask
In addition to over-estimates we have to deal with the encroachment of female footwear ... Heels are hot and I say rock-those-heels even if she ends up taller in them.... However if a female in heels insists on their S.O being at least
4 inches taller they might not so easily buy into us guys wearing lifts :(
Johan said on 30/Apr/16
179cm said on 29/Apr/16

Lol at being 'disappointed' at people over something they don't actually have any control over. You said you are what, 6'1"? Well that is very surprising if your mom is 5'4", I would have thought you'd most likely be 5'9-10" range if your mom is that height. I doubt you stunted your growth. If your mom was like 5'10" then you may have reason to believe that you stunted your growth but from what you've said you're very lucky to have gotten tall.

I don't know why people believe only your parents affect your growth. Im the second shortest male in my family ( mothers side) She has a 5 ft 10 sister and a 6 ft 4 brother.

Their kids are all 6 ' 3" +

And yes my growth was stunted as i was on anabolic steriods from infancy. I had regular doctor check ups to monitor my growth so yes I was lucky to reach the height I am.

My fathers side is somewhat confusing as well. He is a solid 6' but his oldest brother is 5'7" and all his sisters are lower average as well. HIs grandfather was a very tall man though.

Another myth that should be debunked is how healthy living affects your final height. I have a childhood friend who has chain smoked since he was 12 yrs old and he is over 6 ft 4. I guess lying about all day helped to stretch his spine out :)
Canary said on 30/Apr/16
The following statistics come from an October 2012 publication from the US Department of Health and Human Services. Non-Hispanic white Americans, 20-39, were measured from 2007 to 2010. The average height for men was 5'10. The average height for women was 5'5. This five-inch differential between the sexes seems to be the rule in most countries.

@truth: Thanks for the reply, but I'm not a man. :)
plus said on 30/Apr/16
In Spain this is my classification

5'4 (163 cm) and under - Very short, not common in young people
5'5 (165) - quite short, physical trait targeted on you
5'6 (168) - short man, but it's common to find in the street and among young people. Typical young guy who is short
5'7 - 5'7.5 (170-171) - Shortish guy. Not much to worry, common height in the street, You can be described as "Short" but not an actual short
5'7.75 (172)- it's where the average height begins. This is the MODE in Spain. Average is taller tan this mark due to tall people, but this is the most repeated figure in measure
5'8 (173) - Average height. If you are a famous person or a sportsman you are shortish, but in real life nobody would draw the attention in your height, unless you are among tall guys.
5'8.5-5'9 (174-175) - Average in ranking here, modest height but a decent one. You can recognize you are not tall, but in real life you can't think of being short if you are not joking and exaggerating or it's something psychological
5'9.25-5'9.75 (176-177) - A little above average, very good height to fashion, clothes, comfortable. Modest height but with a determined body frame you can look "tallish", and some people can describe you as "tall"
5'10 - 5'10.5 (178-179) - Tallish guy, very good height, you will be described as tall when people is concise to talk about someone. You can be mistaken by a 5'11 guy.
5'11-5'11.25 (180-181)- Tall guy in Spain, here the magic figure is 180 cm, that "8", what it would be equivalent to what 6 feet is (183 cm) in some parts of Europe or USA
In famous people or sports they don't stand out, but in real life they are described as tall people without any doubt
5'11.75-6'0 (182-183) - a guy targeted tall by nature, "that tall guy there", even you can get asked "how tall are you?" but not frequently. Not that common as you may think here, they stand out in groups
6'1-6'1.25 (185-186) Solid tall here. You can be asked "how tall are you?" from time to time but it's not frequent
6'1.75-6'2 (187-188) - Very tall. You can get here some basketball comments, "do you play basketball?". You stand out of course, very noticeable guy in the streets. People sometimes ask you for your height
6'2.75-6'3 (190-191)- Really tall. Big man, not good height if you want to pass unnoticed, it's the limit of good height. Basketball comments of course
6'4-6'5 (193-195)- Too tall. This is when you start having problems fitting in places and difficult to have a good figure. Not common, but you can see from time to time and look up to them. NBA comments. You draw some attention
6'5.5-6'6 (197-198) - very uncommon tall, you must be a fan of NBA, you will play basketball or handball. People will look at you due to be too tall
6'6.75 (200) and over - A giant. Everybody will turn their head to look at you. It's very rare
James B said on 30/Apr/16
With my aunt being 5'11 and my uncle 5'7 you would expect the son to be 6ft and the daughter 5'6.

But obviously with genetics there is no set rule since my dad at his peak was nearly 5'10 and my mom being 5'2 my brother grew to roughly 5'11.25. Likewise one of my friends is 6ft 1/2 his dad was 5'7 and his mom I would guess at 5'2.
James B said on 30/Apr/16
Rob my aunt is 5'11 I think and her husband (my uncle is) was around my height of 5'7-5'7.5 at his peak. There children (my cousins) the daughter is 5'2 and there son 5'8.

Would you have expected them to be a taller given the height of there mom (especially the son).
Editor Rob: yes you'd probably think he'd be taller
Crane said on 30/Apr/16
@Ice Definitely that range for MMA, I think 6'6 is better for Boxing.
CS said on 30/Apr/16
Rob, when you are estimating heights, are you thinking in centimeters or inches? I'm curious if you figure out a height in centimeters and then you write down the conversion for inches or do you figure out a height in inches and then write down the conversion for centimeters.
Editor Rob: I think in both at times, but still mainly feet/inches.
James B said on 30/Apr/16
I once heard a story that guy who 'allegedly' was 6'3 was too short to play in a rugby team.

a legit 6'3 you could argue is 'very tall' but is it really under average for a rugby player?
Celebheights 6'1.75 said on 30/Apr/16
I don't get why people say that 187 CM doesn't stand out in a crowd. Yes, there are taller people in crowds, but there have been times where I've been one of the tallest people in ginormous crowds, with most being 18-25 caucasian males (with only only one or two people being just slightly taller). I even have been told to be careful to not block people's views since I am tall. There's no way that this is in the average height like some have suggested on here.
James said on 30/Apr/16
@truth
That's the point I'm trying to say. I remember seeing someone few days back posting that he at 175 cm is taller than the average man in Germany. So he's telling me average German is 5'8< when the stats are at least 5'11.
Ian said on 30/Apr/16
I am genuinely so frustrated that I find myself short at 5'11.6 it must be strong body dysmorphic symptoms because every person I've confided to in person and the majority of the internet says its rubbish. I know it probably is but I can't change the way I see myself it's destroying my life, I think.
CS said on 30/Apr/16
I kind of agree with the person who said the lowest you could argue for "tall" is 5'11". Something about that 180 cm mark is where people start to appear tall or tallish. I'd even argue as low as 179 cm can be deemed as tall with the right proportions and posture and what not. There's a lot of factors that go into someone appearing tall or not but in general I believe the 180 cm mark or even a bit below is where a weak tall starts. Just a few centimeters over 180 though for sure a person would and should be considered tall. The way I see it right now:

(179)180-182 is weak tall
183-184 is solid tall
185+ is definitely without a doubt tall. No two ways around it. Not being, considered, or feeling tall at this height (range) is completely absurd.
The Tyger said on 30/Apr/16
@Rory

I agree, we've gained only 4 inches in 150 years, not to mention studies report that increase in height has started to taper off.

I'd like to give a height chart a shot.

Men:

5'7"- Short
5'8"- Below average
5'9"- Average
5'10"- Average/Above average
5'11"- Above average/Tallish
6'0"- Tallish
6'1"- Tallish/Tall
6'2"- Tall

I think a legit 5'11" is when guys start to get tall comments.
Rick said on 29/Apr/16
I don't see anything wrong with claiming 5'10. If i'm wearing nike shocks or cowboy boots i'm easily 5'8- 5'8 1/2. That's close enough to claim 5'10. Believe me a true 5'8 1/2 person will tower a big percentage of people. I'm not worried about a few giants that are taller. Most people think they are 2 inches more then their real height because they overestimate. I would probably be the same size if not tower some of you so called 5'10's. If it wasn't for my back issues i'd even be taller.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 29/Apr/16
6ft is tall. It's just there are too many 5ft11 and below guys claiming it and therefore people are turning their noses up at it as a merely 'average' height.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 29/Apr/16
6ft is tall. It's just there are too many 5ft11 and below guys claiming it and people are turning their noses up at it as a merely 'average' height.
Peter 179cm said on 29/Apr/16
Rick claiming 5'10 at 5'7 lool why would you do that??! Atleast you could claim 5'8 since you would be close to if not over it with footwear and most people wouldnt actually tell the difference...I on the other hand at 179cm or 5'10.5 range round down to 5'10 when people ask me, i only claim 5'11 to people under 5'3 who obviously can't tell or when i'm "feeling tall".Sometimes i may come up with a funny figure though, like if a short/tall person asks me i may say sth like 5'3 or 4'11 etc just to mess with their head or confuse them lmaao it's actually funny looking at their reactions...But height like weight and age is just a number,better be truthful about it and dont be concerned so much,that's my take on it.
James B said on 29/Apr/16
i know a guy that claims "6'4" he is rake thin and up close he looks very towering indeed. From a distance he doesn't look freakish tall but you have to get up close to him to realise how large he is. You never know he might just be modest about his height and could actually be 6'4.5.

My brother who i think could be 5'11.25 (he insists he's 6'1) thinks his 6'4 friend is 6'5 or 6'5 1/2 which goes to show that people underestimate how large a real 6'4 truly is.


On a different note I have 2 mates who look like they are somewhere in the 5'10 range who both claim "6ft" as there height. So is it any wonder people think 6ft is average? I remember actually I knew a gym instructor who I overhead saying about his height "I am 6feet tall" (if I heard him correctly?) and from my perspective he looked like a big guy.
truth said on 29/Apr/16
6ft0-6ft1 is the lowest one could possibly argue for being tall. 5ft11 is upper average.
truth said on 29/Apr/16
@179cm Average is actually just between those 2 heights for the general white european population, within 1 standard deviation. The mean is a solid 177-178cm, 68% of men fall between 170-184cm. For young people just add 2cm so it is 179-180cm and 68% of young white guys in EU fall between 172-187cm. Of course I am talking in general terms here, some countries do have an 182-183cm average for young people (Netherlands, Denmark, Montenegro, Bosnia), some only 174-175cm (Portugal and Romania for example).
James B said on 29/Apr/16
When I was 13 I went through a grow spurt and towered over a lot of my classmates in school. I honestly thought I would reach 6'2 or 6'3 as an adult but when I turned 14 BAM my growth spurt came to an end. It pissed me of during my teenage years seeing my classmates grow taller than me and I was hoping I would go through another spurt but it didn't happen.

I was in big denial about my height in my mid-late teens and convinced myself I was 6feet tall and like Glenn I would get super angry if someone challenged my false belief. To be honest even today I do get anxious or pissed if every guy I see is taller than me because it makes me feel different from everyone else.

That said Glenn was only
James B said on 29/Apr/16
179cm said on 27/Apr/16
@James B

I don't know how your mom can really be 'disappointed' when it is something that has genetic limitations. If she's only 5'2" then that explains why you're 5'7".

If your mom thinks 5'9" or 10" is short then why is 6 feet somehow a 'giant'? It's as if people have this idea that 6 feet is some sort of magic height, it isn't really that much taller than 5'9" or 10".


My dad is 5'9 now (he was 5'9.5 range at his peak) so you could argue I am actually closer to my dads height that my moms.
french guy m said on 29/Apr/16
Based on my experience, most young men are between 170 and 193 cm
Chevy said on 29/Apr/16
Hi rob are people in the us a lot taller than people in southern and northern China?
Bolero said on 29/Apr/16
As of April 29th, 2016, the most delusional people in this chat are:

- Ice.
- James, whichever one.
- French Guy.

Ice believes he is short at 189cm (you're not a legit 189cm, sorry to say) James thinks there are 6'2 girls everywhere on his campus (hop on some schizophrenia/psychosis medication you freak) and French Guy thinks that young Frenchmen are tall and he needs to leg-lengthen himself up to 6'4 (Frenchmen are absolutely tiny, and you won't be getting leg-lengthening surgery anyway)

I laugh at the people who want to be 6'5+. SIX-FIVE? Why?

You won't magically be good at sports, you'll just be an awkward uncoordinated giant. Highest scorer in the NBA right now is in the 6'1 - 6'3 range (Curry) many others as well (Irving, Lillaird, Westbrook, Kemba Walker, Chris Paul) it's about athleticism, not height.

Girls won't care (they care more about facial characteristics / money) it's not even a "handsome tall" anyway. If you're ugly you'll just stick out even more.

I'm sorry to shatter all your dreams.
WΛ††S said on 29/Apr/16
Hey Rob!Does it really to grow taller after growth hormone therapy at 20 or this is too late?
truth said on 29/Apr/16
@Canary Exactly man, just what I have said before. Nice to know I am not alone in this opinion.
James said on 29/Apr/16
@johnwick
Where are you from ?
c-mo said on 29/Apr/16
@179cm

you are quoting the wrong person I think . I didnt call anybody "neurosis idiots/trolls" ...I didnt write that stuff you quoted
Ice said on 29/Apr/16
The perfect height for MMA is 6'4 , for Boxing 6'7" .
MaskDeMasque said on 29/Apr/16
I dont think any girl would say a legit 5'10 guy is short lol. 5'9-5'10 range is perfectly average, in UK anyway. The reason average heights get a hard time is because most people over estimate their height by an inch or two. I once went out with this girl, beforehand online she asked for me height. I'm 5'10.25 out of bed and about 5'9.5 at night so just said 5'9.5, she called me shortie lol. But once we met up she was like "oh, i thought youd be short, you look normal sized".
179cm said on 29/Apr/16
Johan said on 27/Apr/16
James B

I can relate, my mother brings it up constantly whenever she visits how I never reached my potential because of childhood illness.

Its gets old being berated by a 5 ft 4 in woman just because your brother is 6ft 5 in.

We even had a pic together and afterwards she commented how short I was :) Its all relative and in this case very amusing. I wouldn't let it bother you James.

Lol at being 'disappointed' at people over something they don't actually have any control over. You said you are what, 6'1"? Well that is very surprising if your mom is 5'4", I would have thought you'd most likely be 5'9-10" range if your mom is that height. I doubt you stunted your growth. If your mom was like 5'10" then you may have reason to believe that you stunted your growth but from what you've said you're very lucky to have gotten tall.
The Tyger said on 29/Apr/16
@James

The average NFL Quarterback is 6'3", Wide receivers, Cornerbacks, Running Backs and Safeties average 5'10"-6'2". Offensive/Defensive Linemen like the guys pictured with Russell average about 6'5" so of course he'll look tiny with them.

Most people can't tell height. A know a girl that swears her boyfriend is 5'11" he's a weak 5'9", I know another girl that thinks her brother is 6'3"(he's 6'1") and her boyfriend is 5'11"(he's 5'9"). I'm sure most of those women turning down every guy under 6'0" really don't know what a 6'0" man looks like.
Kevin said on 28/Apr/16
When it comes to the 'perfect height' debate, more is not always better. Those who are 5'10 think they'll be happy at 6'0 but then they'll want another 2 inches to hit 6'2, and they still won't be satisfied and so on. This is why I think limb lengthening is ridiculous in nearly every circumstance. Anything above 5'5ish will give you access to most women and let you live normally, so people need to get this inferiority complex out of their heads. We are all built differently and worrying about not being 'ideal' is futile. At 187cm myself, I used to think I was too short and I needed to be 193cm, but oftentimes I would only compare myself to the tallest people in any given crowd. Realistically, I am at least 90th percentile for men in most places I go, and now I'm very grateful. I used to be equally as insecure as guys a foot shorter than me. Rob, I wish you could help some of the members on this site who are considering surgery when it's completely unnecessary and dangerous.
plus said on 28/Apr/16
@James NBA's average height is around 6'6 not 6'8. Remember they are measured on thick sneakers, and Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant are around 6'5. Ricky Rubio is listed 6'4 and he confessed his real height: 6'2.5
John said on 28/Apr/16
Hi Ryan.
I think you are about same height as I was at your age.
What's your shoesize? If you have big bones and a massive structure you may well end as tall as I am now at 19: about 2m tall.
Is your family tall? My close family is not, but we've got some very tall relatives.
Canary said on 28/Apr/16
Women say that they prefer men over 6'0 because they think that 5'10 men are 6'0. They also think that 5'8 men are 5'10 and that 5'6 men are 5'8, which skews their perceptions. Not all women are like this this, but a large number are. This is why men are almost forced to lie about their heights on dating sites. Many women will think that 5'10 men are below average and that 5'8 men are short. I'm 5'8, and I often get guessed at 5'10 by other women. They tend to be below average to short, though.
truth said on 28/Apr/16
@Bobby184 Just claim 184cm/6ft0.5 since you are that height for most of the day. 185cm/6ft1 would be upgrading yourself, 183cm/6ft0 would be downgrading yourself. It is very simple, yet some autistic posters here prefer mental masturbation, it will only ruin you in the long run.
175 cm said on 28/Apr/16
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Exactly the values from 2013.
Ervis said on 28/Apr/16
Hi Rob.I wanted to know what height to call my self in countries that dont use metrics.I wake up at a few milimetres above 186 cm and at evening i am usually 2 milimetres below 186 cm.So should i claim roughly 6ft1 or just 6ft 1?
Thanks in addition
Editor Rob: personally I'd say 6ft 1, it seems a small amount of height you lose from morning to night.
James B said on 28/Apr/16
c-mo said on 27/Apr/16
Rick said on 26/Apr/16
some of you must not notice all the people that are shorter than you and only the taller ones. I'm 5'7, but i do tower a lot of other men especially in my nike shocks. It is not as short as many of you insist it is. I normally claim 5'10 if anyone asks my height.

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you can not tower over a lot of men at 5'7 (not even in nike shocks) unless you live in a very short country such as indonesia or something. in the western world were most of us live 5'7 is short (even though a common height.) check my height chart below in my previous post. in fact you will only tower over very short women and extremely short men at your height ...so only few people

and claiming 5'10 at your height is total nonsense and it is one of the main reasons why some people think 5'10 is short on the internet. I have seen guys like you in real life too who are no taller than 170cm but claim 175cm for example

I am about 178,3cm (5'10.2) out of bed (after a very long sleep I can be 178,5cm) and (usually) 176cm (5'9.3) at night barefoot and even me claiming 5'10 would be borderline "acceptable"but since everybody is lying (like you lol) I would claim 5'10 (we dont use feet and inches where I live so I just claim 177cm ) but at 5'7 ? give me a break .

I think you are a troll though



I've know guys 5'6 claim 5'10
truth said on 28/Apr/16
@James Most recent height studies have young German height at 180-181cm or 5ft11-6ft0 range, not 182-183cm but nothing under 180cm.
c-mo said on 28/Apr/16
@JamesB and Rick you both stop trolling 5'7 is legit short
plus said on 28/Apr/16
Cristiano 6'1 average? Thats a lie. He is only surpassed by Pepe and Varane in Real Madrid. He is the 3rd tallest in the squad. Average in Spanish football 179-180. And we talk about sports not street. Anyway the mode also in sports is way shorter than average
Kevin said on 28/Apr/16
Rob, would you say a legit 6'6 guy is 1 in 1000 men in the UK? Or more like 1 in 500, 1 in 250 etc?
Editor Rob: probably nearer 1000 from just general observation.
179cm said on 28/Apr/16
James said on 26/Apr/16
@ Mat
Most girls would consider 5'10 as short. If not, why are they demanding for 6 feet guys. I've seen/ heard girls saying " I'll only date 6 feet and above guys". I'm not the only one that says 5'10 is short, most women consider a guy short at 5'10. Maybe you are lucky after all but I've seen so many short men get dissed because of their height.

Absolute nonsense. Yeah there might be some crazy ones, just like crazy guys who demand only women 100 lbs or something. Doesn't mean that you should run away with that and lump all men or women into the one basket. I have my suspicions about whether people who say '5'10" is short' are actually as tall as they claim to be. Probably the sort of people who claim 6'1" when they're only really 5'11", and therefore the average must be 6 feet or they will be caught out on their inflation.
179cm said on 28/Apr/16
c-mo said on 25/Apr/16

Just lol at delusional height neurosis idiots/trolls who think 5'11-6' is average for young men. I'm guessing these guys get towered by a few men out of hundreds and conclude that 6' must be only average. just lol.

Well I think they're generally claiming a '6 feet plus' average, which is more absurd. You could argue maybe as low as 5'9", as high as 5'11". 6 feet plus is false though. I suspect that a lot of people who claim the average is 6 feet are in fact inflating their height themselves. The average has to be 6 feet so they can then claim 6'1" at 5'11". There is definitely also that tendency to see a few tall people and run away with that thinking they are representative of people in general.
179cm said on 28/Apr/16
Rick said on 26/Apr/16
I'm 5'7, but i do tower a lot of other men especially in my nike shocks. It is not as short as many of you insist it is. I normally claim 5'10 if anyone asks my height.

That is a huge inflation. It's not necessary to be 'modest' to the point that you're not actually being truthful, but adding an extra 3 inches is just false. Well yeah I agree that 5'7" probably is taller than a lot of people think. A lot of people probably don't have an accurate idea of how tall 5'10" actually is. I suspect that might be why people think the average guy is 6 feet, what they think is 6 feet is actually only 5'10".
truth said on 28/Apr/16
@french guy Maybe they do not care but dude I think in your case they should because you are a nutcase if you think 183cm is short even among young people these days lol. Just like with guns, surgeries should be only preformed with doctors permits.
jack92 said on 28/Apr/16
something important to discuss shoulder height, are you aware that a important part of looking short next to someone is because of the difference between the peoples shoulder level? if you have a good shoulder height, (shoulders that don't slope, high and square/broad with a short neck, you get to hold up better next to some one! . for all this talk over the years about what height difference is "towering" you would of thought there would be more discussion on this discuss
TJE said on 28/Apr/16
broc said on 26/Apr/16
Rob, I seriously think it's time to clean up this page and ban a few people. It really is a pity how some of these comments are so nonsensical. I think we have all had a laugh, now it's getting really irritating.

Editor Rob: I think people who take things too far should take a break from the page.
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Rod has said that the comments should say on height (and IMO celebrities; it's called celebheights for a reason) and that he'll allow minor transgressions, but will only delete comments that contain personal info and advertising. This creates a paradox, as comments may transgress vastly off topic but don't contain personal info or advertising. I could post a short story on this page and it won't be deleted.

It's a shame really, but I imagine going through all the comments would be a hassle. Thus, holding people accountable to what they say seems to be the best alternative.
Johnwick said on 27/Apr/16
Ok, all perception of height are differents so i gonna do mine. I travel a lot and go to differents cities.

5'7-5ft9" - it depend but generally it's almost short or short
5'9 - 5'10"- almost average but you can feel below average
5'10.5 - 5'11.5" - it's average but sometimes you can appear tallish or a little bit shorter.
6'0 - 6'1" - starting to be a solid height for stop to feel short.
6'1" - this is the perfect height : it's the start of tall but not to tall, just good!
6'1" - 6'2" - definitly tall but not too tall. Very solid height for be taller than average everywhere.
6'2-6ft3 - start to be very tall
6'3 - limit of become too tall
Over 6'4" - too tall

Personally i'm still still growing so i experiment every height so that's the real chart.
179cm said on 27/Apr/16
People go from one extreme to the other. The average guy is definitely not 6'1", but tall at 5'7"? Let's be realistic, the lowest you could argue for 'tall' is 5'11".
179cm said on 27/Apr/16
@James B

I don't know how your mom can really be 'disappointed' when it is something that has genetic limitations. If she's only 5'2" then that explains why you're 5'7".

If your mom thinks 5'9" or 10" is short then why is 6 feet somehow a 'giant'? It's as if people have this idea that 6 feet is some sort of magic height, it isn't really that much taller than 5'9" or 10".
Rory said on 27/Apr/16
Why will the average height increase by 1.5 inches in 20 yrs time, what will prompt that surge..rob mentioned a while ago the average has increased by 1.5 inches in 70 yrs, so why will we see a similar rise but only in 20 yrs this time ? I don't buy it.
James B said on 27/Apr/16
Rob do you agree if your a a guy who is short as a 16 year old your size doesn't matter as much to girls compared when your in your 20s?
Editor Rob: it might be yeah
Johan said on 27/Apr/16
James B

I can relate, my mother brings it up constantly whenever she visits how I never reached my potential because of childhood illness.

Its gets old being berated by a 5 ft 4 in woman just because your brother is 6ft 5 in.

We even had a pic together and afterwards she commented how short I was :) Its all relative and in this case very amusing. I wouldn't let it bother you James.
Johan said on 27/Apr/16
In relation to the UK, I read an article a few weeks ago about what height men should be to attract women.

Women found men under 5ft 4 inches to be too small. So thats 6 inches smaller than your average guy there. Interestingly they also found guys over 6 ft 3 to be too tall.

The perfect height came out at 5 ft 11 .

For men it was kind of the same women under 4 ft 11 were deemed too small and women over 6 ft too tall. Perfect Height was said to be 5 ft 6 in.

In both cases each gender chose someone slightly over average but not tall.
James B said on 27/Apr/16
Rick said on 26/Apr/16
some of you must not notice all the people that are shorter than you and only the taller ones. I'm 5'7, but i do tower a lot of other men especially in my nike shocks. It is not as short as many of you insist it is. I normally claim 5'10 if anyone asks my height.


Exactly that's the point I am have been trying to make as well and I tower over quite a lot of men in nightclubs when I have my dress shoes on and obviously I feel towered by a lot of taller men as well. People underestimate how tall a legit 5'7 is because guys who are 5'4 or 5'5 claim it.

Poster Alex who measured a fraction over 6ft by editor rob....... Well I remember he said once that out in public he doesn't feel like a tall guy and does not consider himself to be tall either. I can't understand how he could not feel like a tall guy at a legit 6ft? That said though in a big city like NYC you are bound to see ****loads more tall people than you would in a fairly small suburb in the south of England.
c-mo said on 27/Apr/16
Rick said on 26/Apr/16
some of you must not notice all the people that are shorter than you and only the taller ones. I'm 5'7, but i do tower a lot of other men especially in my nike shocks. It is not as short as many of you insist it is. I normally claim 5'10 if anyone asks my height.

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you can not tower over a lot of men at 5'7 (not even in nike shocks) unless you live in a very short country such as indonesia or something. in the western world were most of us live 5'7 is short (even though a common height.) check my height chart below in my previous post. in fact you will only tower over very short women and extremely short men at your height ...so only few people

and claiming 5'10 at your height is total nonsense and it is one of the main reasons why some people think 5'10 is short on the internet. I have seen guys like you in real life too who are no taller than 170cm but claim 175cm for example

I am about 178,3cm (5'10.2) out of bed (after a very long sleep I can be 178,5cm) and (usually) 176cm (5'9.3) at night barefoot and even me claiming 5'10 would be borderline "acceptable"but since everybody is lying (like you lol) I would claim 5'10 (we dont use feet and inches where I live so I just claim 177cm ) but at 5'7 ? give me a break .

I think you are a troll though
truth said on 27/Apr/16
@Rick lol talk about your Napoleonic insecurity. I am 5ft10.5-5ft11 morning and around 5ft10 night and claim 5ft10, in shoes almost 5ft10.5. Would be funny meeting you and looking down at you.
Peter 179cm said on 27/Apr/16
Rob i changed my codename from Peter 180cm to Peter 179cm as you can probably see...since i'm around 179cm evening time give or take a few mms(usually 1-3 mm above 179 but anyway).Is it still ok to post comments? Thanks
Editor Rob: yeah it's no problem
James said on 27/Apr/16
@the Tyger
You may say he's 5'10 I agree. But that doesn't make a difference, even if he's an inch taller at 5'11 he'll still be very short. Look he's TOWERED by everyone by a lot not just a few cms. You can check his photos on Internet, looks like a dwarf in almost all photos not just this one. In NFL average height is 6'3. That's why I say 6'5 -6'6 is perfect for sports since football is the most popular in the U.S.
James said on 27/Apr/16
Here's a link for average height in football. Go to page 19 onwards:
Click Here
James said on 27/Apr/16
@p
If you check most soccer leagues, you'll realize most national teams don't have an average that fall below 5'11 (180 cm ). Most soccer players are between 5'11 - 6'2. 6'1 like christino Ronaldo's height is just average for portugal.
Some German leagues have many many players between 6'2-6'4 like that's the average. Goalkeepers are 6'2-6'3 on average, even 6'5 is slightly above average for a goalkeeper. Among athletes to feel tall one has to be 6'4 to 6'6.
For basketball, average nba height is already 6'8 so even 6'5 is short .
truth said on 27/Apr/16
6ft1.5 is the best height for everything: Dating, sports, business (Donald Trump real height, 6ft3 is overinflated due to his ego ;)).
truth said on 27/Apr/16
@James Yes and China did not reach a 170cm average for young people until the 1990s. They will still continue to grow and be probably 173cm by 2030-2040 but currently they reside at 172cm from a 2012 most recent health study (1cm every 12 years or 10-15).

Also most women do not know one single iota about height since being roughly 5-6 inches shorter from men. When they say they want 6ft0+ they mean 5ft10+ because 5ft10 range is the standard in EU countries. Some even do not mind guys shorter than 5ft10 if they are under 5ft5 but most women view male height at 6ft0-6ft3 as ideal.
Bobby184cm said on 27/Apr/16
Hey rob, i'm a fraction over 185 in the morning and 183.5 or a bit less at night. Can i still claim 184 cm or do i need a downgrade? Or am i a weak 184?
Chevy said on 26/Apr/16
Hi rob how many legit 6'5 men have you seen in your life so far?
Editor Rob: since when I travel I go to airports and big cities, I see a lot of men 6ft 5 and over, more than if you were just living and not travelling out with a town.
James said on 26/Apr/16
@ Mat
Most girls would consider 5'10 as short. If not, why are they demanding for 6 feet guys. I've seen/ heard girls saying " I'll only date 6 feet and above guys". I'm not the only one that says 5'10 is short, most women consider a guy short at 5'10. Maybe you are lucky after all but I've seen so many short men get dissed because of their height.
James said on 26/Apr/16
@ 175 cm
Isn't 175 cm suppose to be shorter than the average white male in Germany. 178 cm is average for the entire German population, so 175 cm is short/ below average.
If you were to consider the recent immigration it might lower the average, but the white men are at least 178 cm
And 181 - 183 cm for young people, it can't be lower than that. That's what the official stats say.
James said on 26/Apr/16
@ Justanotherguy
The pdf file I linked on China is a totally different than the one on Wikipedia measured in 2010.
The pdf is survey as you mentioned, but the Wikipedia data is measured.
And of course you can't measure a whole nation like China and those that measure are volunteers. They don't knock at your doorstep.
An the average for whole China, did you read carefully, the 5 ft 7 average measured in 2002 is for 17 YEAR OLDS.
The 5 ft 8 average measured in 2010 is for 19 YEAR OLDS.
So that means in 2002' the average height for 19 year olds is most likely 172 cm since average for 17 hrs is 170 cm, that's for urban China.
The 2010 data featuring average of 172.1 cm ( 5 ft 8 ) represents whole of China Mainland including both rural and urban areas. The poorer and rural areas of China bring down the average as seen in 2002 measurements of 17 yrs old. If we include the average of only urban areas its 174 cm ( 5 ft 8.5 ). There's huge income disparity between rich and poor in China, also huge disparity between urban vs rural, younger vs older, north vs south.
Most educated Asians living in the west are taller than their counterparts in east.
Same for Indians, the average height in India is 5 ft 5.5 for younger generation in India.
But for Indians living in the west, the average is almost 5 ft 9.
Here's a height chart published in 2015 of Hindustani men living in Netherlands:
Click Here
The median height is 174.5 cm for 21 year olds.
french guy said on 26/Apr/16
Oh, i forgot to mention something

thomas6ft1, i don't want to sound rude, but you're obviously trying to draw attention.

" wish I were taller like 6'3" and up. I am going to do leg lengthening surgery next month, unless you find a way to convince me otherwise."

You didn't have the money for this, such surgery cannot be planned one month ahead ahahahaha .
I was seriously thinking about it early last year
Late last year, i was seeing a doctor
I'm still undecided because of the risks, (but money is (almost) not a problem anymore)but especially because i moved to another region, and now i feel taller than average, but sometimes, i still feel short, many, many white young guys are 6'2" -6'6" (maybe 20 % ) and i look like a child next to them, but overall i'm probably average or slightly above average
I think that, if i was a solid 6'1" , i would be totally fine with myself."
So i'm sorry Thomas but you can't be taken and seriously, you live in a country where young generation barely average 5'8", you 5 inches above, why do you complain?
Asian are much shorter than European, i lived near the "Quartier Chinois" (parisian Chinatown), at only 6'0 i was always almost the tallest among asian, and european asian obviously are taller than native asian.
Do you realize that 6'1" in asia is equivalent to 6'4" in France ?
Have you ever heard someone who is 6'4" complaining because he is too short?
No, never.
french guy said on 26/Apr/16
Click Here

ahah spotted
The difference between you and mie lies in the fact you probably don't have enough money
And for the record: Surgeons don't care if you 6'5" or 4'0"
And i have already seen 2 surgeons, they don't care i'm 6'0"
Jakertini said on 26/Apr/16
they say in 20 years the average height will increase by 1.5 inches and right now the average height is 5'10" so it will be 5'11.5". I am 186cm or 6'1.25" and it seems that 6'1" will be the new 5'11". I look at 5'11" as slightly above average to average. One who is 5'11" will look normal and MAYBE get comments from petite women about being tall and confusing them for being 6'1" or something. For an example I was 5'11" and was confused for being 6'3" by an elderly lady. Here I will show you my height chart for Men
5'4-5'6"- laughable height for a man and one will get made fun of for their height
5'7-5'9"- considered slightly below average will be deemed short with occasional comments for being short IMO it's hard to spot a difference between 5'7 to 5'8 and 5'8 to 5'9"
5'10"- average, will never be referred to as tall and at this height one will rarely have problems with height when it comes to women I know only 2 women above 5'10"
5'11-slightly above average can give the illusion of being 6'0" and maybe with the right build 6'1"
6'0"- the start of tall this height is every man's dream and it's when men seem to be handsome according to women. Can give the illusion of being 6'1-6'2". This is the perfect height because you are considered what we would call (Low tall).
6'1-6'2"- FYI I am in this range and this is when you feel tall often and give a lank impression. With a thin build these guys can pass for being 6'3". At this height you will appear taller than you actually are and be labeled tall. I haven't seen a woman taller than me so no problems with that.
6'3-6'4"-At this range you are superior to other men and are intimidating decent height for most sports but in basketball one would be way below average
6'5+-exceptionally tall and there are no benefits unless someone wants to be a beast at basketball.
broc said on 26/Apr/16
Rob, I seriously think it's time to clean up this page and ban a few people. It really is a pity how some of these comments are so nonsensical. I think we have all had a laugh, now it's getting really irritating.
Editor Rob: I think people who take things too far should take a break from the page.
Rick said on 26/Apr/16
some of you must not notice all the people that are shorter than you and only the taller ones. I'm 5'7, but i do tower a lot of other men especially in my nike shocks. It is not as short as many of you insist it is. I normally claim 5'10 if anyone asks my height.
James B said on 26/Apr/16
It seems I am not the only one who is deluded about me seeming tall. Thoughout my early adult life a handful of females have called me 'tall' to my face. One of my close female friends refused to believe me when I claimed "5'7" and insisted I was at 5'9 at least. At college I remember there was one girl who had not seen me for years since junior school and the first thing she remarked about me was "your tall, I remember in school you were not very tall". Although I realise maybe there just trying to make me feel better about myself since I am what you call "a special needs person"


Oh yeah on the subject of 5'10 being small. In my college I knew two guys who looked no taller than 5'6 that claimed they were 5ft10. One of my current friends actually claims 5ft10 and he looks near my height range.

So really is it any wonder some peoples impression of 5'10 is that it is short for a male?
James B said on 26/Apr/16
My mom who is under average height for a woman. She claims 5'2 range but I dwarf her when she's not in heels, I remember she said to me when I was 10 years old "one day when you have a girlfriend she will be looking up at some 6ft giant"

Well that didn't happen since I stopped growing at 170-171cm. I think she's disappointed that I didn't grow up to be a tall guy and I think to her how tall a mans height is important. I remember she actually said once 5ft5 is unacceptable for a man and described heights such as 5'9 and 5'10 as short.

Lol I remember ten years ago there was a phase when I actually believed I was '6ft' and I complained to my mom how I felt short and to make me feel better she said "well 6ft is really average these days"

But yeah I do feel like I have kinda let her down by not being taller :-(
James B said on 26/Apr/16
I just want make a point some of you posters on here from my experience from living in the south of England (this applies to men's heights in the UK)

5'10 is no way shape or form medically short its a strong average (in Holland and Denmark its below average though). But yeah 5'10 is defiantly not true tall height either in the UK.

loads of short guys well under 5'7 get in with hot girls in nightclubs and the tall guys can ignored by these women. Add insult to injury some of these short men are also 'BALD'. So that's a load of bs that girls will not even talk to guys under 6ft. I know 2 associates actually (one is 6ft and the other 6'3) and they don't get much female attention compared to some short guys I see. Maybe in the U.S. Women put more importance on a mans height I don't know?


A legit 5'11 is just about in the tall in the tall zone for men or if you want to call it 'the upper end of average'. A true 5'11 (near 181cm) loads of women will view it as tall. A friend of mine is around 5'11.25 he claims 6'1) and a lot of the time he looks tall to me.

Dee- I don't know where you from but 6'1-6'2 in the UK is 4 inches above average so that makes it undoubtably tall. 6'1-6'2 is certainly not very tall buts it is a signifgiant amount over the norm.


Oh yeah rampage- first thing in the morning (or if you wore shoes) you would definitely bump your head on some doors in my house :-)
truth said on 26/Apr/16
In China for young men the average is about 172cm during the day so a strong 5ft7 or weak 5ft8. The only Asian population that has an average higher than that are young South Korean men with an 173-174cm average. This data is from health studies where pediatricians measured a representable number of young people (n = 3000) of grown up age (18-35).
175 cm said on 26/Apr/16
James with your comments you're on the best way to replace Big C.
Without 'Sly Tricks' you'd probably measure under 5ft 7 otherwise you won't feel like a "dwarf", it's ridicioulos...
175.7cm said on 26/Apr/16
Rob, so I don't get like why some doctors and police don't measure people properly. I was measured at the doctor's with a stadiometer on may 2014 and I got a little over 5'8 and a half (174.4 cm and it was like 9 in the morning at the time (this was before I grew to 5'9") so I mostly assumed that it was accurate and another one in july 2015 where they measured me roughly (like they made me stand on a thing that looks like a weight scale and the thing was like a stadiometer but there was no bar to measure people and the measuring ruler was like 2ft hanging off of the ground, so they just looked at it and guessed and they got me at 176 cm (which surprised me). But I did know someone who was measured the same thing (he has claimed 5'11") and when he was measured in that prototype stadiometer, the cm he claimed was 183. But overall he looked 5'10.5". I also met another person who was measured at the copshop and he said he was a little underneath 5'10", but in reality he looks 5'8". What is the reason behind this or you have no idea?
Editor Rob: maybe with equipment being used a lot, you end up with more erroneous measuring tools, or wonky stadiometers at some places.

But also, maybe they are happy just to get a rough idea and aren't bothered about accuracy to the mm.
plus said on 26/Apr/16
I better stop comment here because some comments are ridiculous... 6'5 6'6 good for sports?? I guess they are talking to some sports. No good for tennis or football (Tennis 6, 6'1 and 6'2 master class) football 5'6 to 6'2 normally... basketball not good that height in point guard position. I live in a town with Universities, richer and state University. Firstly many people we are not there and most people are not related to the richer people. Hard working class is the most normal here. I mix with large spectrum of people of Spain citizenship. Plenty 5'6 and 5'7 guys here. Go to the streets...you will be mixed with all ages and kinds. I prefer to be 5'7 to 6'6 sorry guys. Here some people we like our height. The perfection Cristiano Ronaldo 6'1... not taller than that. But you need the complexion if not... better shorter than him
JJ said on 26/Apr/16
@James 6'5-6'6 best height for a male? In what world do you live in? At that height you're getting towards the lanky part, forgot to mention the back and knees pain.
6'0" a legit dwarf? In some sports it might be shorter, but you're acting like everyone is a 6'10" basketballer. You should relate to the real world. The huge guys(6'4+) aren't even 1% of the male population worldwide, they're rare. Because you have more of them in certain places it makes you believe that 6'4" is close to average.
Francis said on 26/Apr/16
@James
I'm trying to tell you that those short footballers were the key to the Spanish National Team style of play, most guys were starters in the squad. Xavi, Iniesta, Alba, Pedro, Mata, Silva .
Why should I lie when I don't even know you? You're obviously obsessed with your height and take this way too serious. You make up numbers out of your own mind and overestimate things. You're a easy person since you believe everything on the internet. Immigrants bring the average down? haha
You do know that not roughly half of these immigrants have Spanish citizenship, right? Well you should know by now. Do you think they they measure immigrants on the street? Since you love internet sources that much, here's something from Wikipedia, about Madrid.
" In 2007, about 83.8% of the inhabitants were Spaniards, while people of other origins, including immigrants from Latin America, Europe, Asia, North Africa and West Africa, represented 16.2% of the population. "
Most immigrants are temporarily there for work.
While walking on the street I noticed 5'6"-5'9" guys were omnipresent. The majority of guys (about 70%) were in 5'5"-5'11" range.

Take it easy
179cm said on 26/Apr/16
Ice said on 22/Apr/16
I want nothing more in life than to be tall . Its like my biggest wish . Im not joking . Im not happy with my height at all at 189 cm - 187 cm .

I very much doubt you would actually be satisfied even if you were 7'2".
Damian said on 25/Apr/16
@rob, I've noticed something strange with different types of measuring tools and when I use a calculator to determine height.

So, basically last night I just measured my fence with a 12-inch ruler and it was approximately 6ft3.75. Now I measure it today, but with a measuring tape and it shows the height of my fence at 6ft4.40.

Why do you think that is? I think it's a bit strange. Also, I know on my measuring tape that 6ft5 is equal to 77 inches, but on the calculator 6ft5 actually equals 78 inches. Sometimes, I can't tell which is correct. Should I trust what the calculator says or what I got from my measuring tape.
rew said on 25/Apr/16
@ Ice, I guess you are even annoying in real life and not just here. No wonder he said "I don't know".
179cm said on 25/Apr/16
James said on 24/Apr/16
Most girls wouldn't even want to talk to guy under 6 feet.
That's a fact.

You know full well that stuff like that isn't true. Just because dating can be difficult for men who actually are quite short like 5'5" doesn't mean that you should run away with that and make these ridiculous, black and white claims like women hate men under 6 feet. That isn't anymore true than the idea that men hate women over 120 lbs or something.

If a man is actually average height like 5'10" and not having any luck with dating then being under 6 feet is most likely just an excuse to play the victim card. Height probably wasn't the problem.
The Tyger said on 25/Apr/16
@James

Russell Wilson is 5'10" you can see that when he's standing with most 5'11"-6'1" NFL players. He's also surrounded by what looks like his Offensive Lineman in that picture and offensive lineman in the NFL are on average 6'5".
So that picture proves absolutely nothing.

A quick question how tall are you?
Mat said on 25/Apr/16
@James

Haha sorry mate. I'm 5'10+ and I seem to get quite a lot of girls, even taller than me. Maybe I'm super short as you say, and maybe girls don't consider dating guys under 6' at all, but since I do have success with chicks, I'm either insanely good looking or insanely smart or even both. So thank you for the compliment ;-)
Justanotherguy said on 25/Apr/16
Just because the Wikipedia says it is "measured" doesn't mean that it is. The methodology in the PDF says otherwise. It actually claims that the heights were taken from surveys. Its on the first page. Click Here

None of the "measured" heights in Wikipedia are actually measured. They are all taken from surveys. Do you think that scientists went from house to house in every country with a stadiometer?

Survey's are unreliable because people either exaggerate, lie or do not know their own height. If you have to ask "why would people lie?" than you're being naive. But as far as the scientific method is concerned it is simply inaccurate data.

China's studies are actually hilarious. In 2002 the average height in China was 5'7 and in 2010 its 5'8. In less than one generation the average height increased 1 inch. Unbelievable.
Johan said on 25/Apr/16
Queenslander said on 24/Apr/16
@Johan

What's wrong with claiming lunchtime height??


If a person was measured barefoot on a stadiometer at 178cm around lunchtime, are you gonna call them out for saying "5'10"? (he/she might also claim to be 6 foot before measuring). People will give you weird stares..

178 cm is a solid 5ft 10 so at worst I wouldn't expect they would go under the mark at all. In the case of what we are talking about it would be more a guy who measures 177 cm at luch Queenslander as he would be probably just a solid 5'9.5" guy..the type who usually claims 5'11" I know.
Johan said on 25/Apr/16
@c-mo

Your missing the point. A guy who is 179 range and claims 180 cm in metric by rounding is fine but when using imperial he shouldn't claim 5'11" as he is almost 5'11".

Just the same as I claim 185 cm but if someone asks for imperial I would say Im "almost 6'1""

A guy who rounds down to 180 from 180.1-4 has every right to claim 5'11".

People who are short won't doubt a 5'10.5" guy making that claim but its so close to average that many guys will wonder if they are say 5'11.25" 181 cm and just claim 5'11". There will be a noticeable difference. Thats a dress shoe 2cm difference we are talking about.

If you never want to get called out by a guy of similar height then its best just to go with what you measure and don't round at all.
c-mo said on 25/Apr/16
Aaron183cm said on 22/Apr/16
@Ian

It's not too uncommon for me to be the tallest if there's fewer than 10 guys. If there's more than 10 I don't count on it, because there's usually always a few 6'1-6'2 guys around. Doesn't mean 6' isn't weak tall, though. I've really paid attention to my height in the past few months and 6' definitely fits the "weak tall" label. Meaning that I'll be in the top quartile height of men almost 100% of the time.

Just lol at delusional height neurosis idiots/trolls who think 5'11-6' is average for young men. I'm guessing these guys get towered by a few men out of hundreds and conclude that 6' must be only average. just lol. People often appear taller at a distance (I'll see a guy 30ft away who I think looks 6'2" but when I get closer up he's actually eye level with me). It's just something to take into account. Perspective can play tricks sometimes. I've learned not to judge a person's height unless I am standing right next to them, on even ground. Just walking around Washington State University campus there's a bajillion sub 5'8" white men walking around if you just pay attention and stop remembering only the people taller than you

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agree 100%

people like James are just trolls and/or just extremely insecure . I wont even bother quoting him...just read his latest responses xD lmao

and you say you feel weak tall at 6'0 ? well thats what I say the whole time :) I know that my height chart is very accurate . here my height chart again for you

under 5'5 = very short
5'5 = short
5'6 = short
5'7 = definitely short now but not uncommon
5'8 = below average / weak short
5'9 = start of medium
5'10 = solid/legit medium
5'11 = high medium
6'0 = above average / weak tall
6'1 = definitely tall now
6'2 = solid/legit tall . the stereotypical tall man height
6'3 = high/strong tall
6'4 = getting very tall now
6'5 = definitely very tall
6'6 = very tall
6'7-6'9 = extra tall / huge
6'10 - 7'0 = wtf
7'1+ = gigantism

I am sooooo sure that this listing is correct
175 cm said on 25/Apr/16
@James I tower over ~98% of women in Germany (all ages/ethnicities >16y/o), that's just the way it is. My peak out of bed is 179.46cms (usually almost 5ft 10.5) and my bare minimum 175.89. I have one medical 178.4cms and one 178 (passport office). I'd never mentioned I'd feel tall, just slightly above average considering the entire adult male population in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany. I know I get a bit repetitive but you insist the world is 'big' just because you're much shorter than the 'youngsters' from your campus. Coincidentally these guys get many pretty girls and now you think there's no way a "shorter" guy can be attractive.
I have to admit that using a a spirit level and a magnifying glass for decimillimeters is obsessed. But it's way better to have an accurate idea of height than thinking the world is much bigger than in reality ;)
James said on 25/Apr/16
I remember reading that the average height for German football team during last World Cup was 186 cm. The tallest team.
@ Ice
Its very common to see 6'5/6'6 guys on street in the Netherlands/Dinaric Alps. Over 2 m starts to be less common.
James said on 25/Apr/16
@Dee
There are times at university where I see 6'2-6'3 woman walking on street.
175 cm said on 25/Apr/16
@ryan
9cms on average
James said on 25/Apr/16
@MD
I didn't say a year. 1 cm per decade seems reasonable for a country like China.
James said on 25/Apr/16
@thomas6ft1
Don't be a hypocrite. You also posted a question similar in Quora complaining on being short at 6'1 and wanting to do leg lengthening. Here's the link:
Click Here
James said on 25/Apr/16
@Dee
I do agree with you. At times, 6'1 can appear shortish.
@Ice
Many people over 6 feet have felt short in the Netherlands. The only ones that didn't were around 6'5 and over.
CNROM89 said on 25/Apr/16
Rob, measurement with normal meter and stadiomer, are there any diffrence between them?
Editor Rob: most tape measures are cheap and accurate. Stadiometers are usually quite accurate to, but you could find some aren't installed properly against a wall or they have a slight error.
Jackson said on 25/Apr/16
"Johan said on 22/Apr/16

Most guys who are 182 cm morning would be 181cm in afternoon so thats just a solid /legit 5'11" guy.

183cm out of bed would most likely be a 5'11.5" guy.

181cm out of bed would be a 5'10.5" guy.

This is true. I am always 181 cm out of bed and 179 during most of the day. 5'10.25" low right before bed. I used to always claim 5'10 when I was younger but recently have been saying 5'11'. If I'm 1/2 inch over 5'10" yes I'm going to round up. Deal with it
James said on 25/Apr/16
@Ice
Yeah, 187 cm is not tall among German/Austrian people. I know lots of German who are around your height.
MD said on 25/Apr/16
@James, among the many things you've shown you don't know about height, your insistence in multiple posts now, that nations just keep growing is just flat wrong, and weirdest of all just this general assumption that they show significant growths in just a year of measurement. Let's entertain that the young men in Beijing average around 175cm in 2015; no, you can not just assume that they'd add a whole centimeter a year later.
PetePro said on 24/Apr/16
@John re. Health & Sport: Yes, I would agree. Maybe we can, for decades and centuries ago, replace sporting with hunting and fighting. This might make men big and strong, whether they ate well or not.

See this link about human height from ancient to modern times, covering all continents and sub-races: Click Here
179cm said on 24/Apr/16
The question is why is being super tall the be all and end all anyway? You could just as easily argue that being overweight like 250 lbs at 6 feet is desirable. People should at least stop and think about why they want to be 6'6" so badly.
Celebheights 6'1.75 said on 24/Apr/16
I can't change my name to 6'1.5" on my computer. I guess that 6'1.75" isn't much different as I do hold the mark for a lot of my day.
Canary said on 24/Apr/16
Do white women, who attend prestigious colleges and universities, tend to be taller than same-age white women who drop out of high school?
Thomas6ft1 said on 24/Apr/16
@french guy
You say you want to go from 183 cm/6'0" to 190 cm (6'3"). First of all, its very unlikely that any surgeon would do it as its too unethical, stupid, and unneeded. Here's a question that is similar to what you want to do:
Click Here

Everyone strongly suggest the 6'1" guy not to get leg lengthening surgery.
James said on 24/Apr/16
I think the best height for men is around 6'5- 6'6. Good height for sports.
For women, 5'10' 5'11. Good height for modeling.
James said on 24/Apr/16
@ Rick
I agree with you that 5'10 is short nowadays. Some people think they're so great just because a girl like them at that height, they're unaware that they're just being lucky.
Most girls wouldn't even want to talk to guy under 6 feet.
That's a fact.
James said on 24/Apr/16
Lots of users on celeb heights are trying to downplay the average height. People here claiming that all stats are morning heights lol. All the egoistical people thinking they're so great just because they "tower" shorter people when they're clearly below average height, then claiming that the average statistical height is exaggerated. WTF.
If you really think you're average, why are you even here on celeb heights ?
James said on 24/Apr/16
@ Justanotherguy
Wikipedia states that average men in Beijing is 174.7 cm, MEASURED in 2010.
Now don't tell me that those are morning or afternoon heights.
I can't believe some people believe here really believe that taking mid afternoon height counts as exaggerating.
french guy said on 24/Apr/16
@ice


most patient resume a normal life and we are not professional athlete,now please don't be jealous, stop it, i feel a lot of anger
Peter 180cm said on 24/Apr/16
@ Rampage Clover You only lose 0.75 inches (~2cm) at most?? You're pretty lucky considering you're 6'4!!... Well i assume if you have long legs and a rather small torso for your height that explains why you dont shrink that much...And btw,do you wish you were 198-200cm tall to give that huge guy vibe guys that tall give in real life or are you content at 193cm?
Queenslander said on 24/Apr/16
@Johan

What's wrong with claiming lunchtime height??


If a person was measured barefoot on a stadiometer at 178cm around lunchtime, are you gonna call them out for saying "5'10"? (he/she might also claim to be 6 foot before measuring). People will give you weird stares..
Johan said on 24/Apr/16
179cm said on 22/Apr/16

Well downgrading yourself is no more accurate than upgrading yourself. I don't see a problem with rounding to the nearest inch and claiming your lunch time height. People who call others out on that are being way too obsessive for one thing.

Its not downgrading its just being accurate to the nearest cm or 1/4 inch. Claiming your height around lunch i think is fine as long as you have been active that morning. I tested it a few times myself and the difference between that and a normal low is measured in mm not cm's.

Your on a site dedicated to Height my friend so yes there are many people here with an above average interest in it.
179cm said on 24/Apr/16
Johan said on 22/Apr/16
Im not downgrading anyone

You are though, you're advocating that people need to be 5'11" at their absolute lowest just to claim that height. It's fair enough to say that morning height is not accurate, but why then should your lowest height be accurate? Downgrading is no more accurate than upgrading, surely it makes the most sense to take an average. What's so wrong with somebody claiming 5'11" if they measure close to that at lunch time? On average that's how tall they would be.
James said on 24/Apr/16
@plus
I'm currently living in a university town, so majority of people on the streets are young people. It's less common for me to see old people here. Some people here only care about heights of young people coz they mix around with mostly young people or upper class/educated people. So there really isn't any point comparing heights with old people or immigrants or etc.
James said on 24/Apr/16
Proof that a legit 5'11 guy is short.
Click Here
James said on 24/Apr/16
In American football, anything below 6'3 is downright short. Anything below 6'0 is legit dwarf.
A good example is NFL quarterback Russell Wilson at 5'11. At his height 5'11 he is towered by all his teammates and looks like a dwarf/ midget among them. Here's a picture:
Click Here
Don't tell me his height is exaggerated, since ALL NFL players are MEASURED. And NFL heights are quite accurate according to Rob.
This shows that a real legit measured 5'11 guy is considered a dwarf. Anything below 6'3 is short.
If you don't think he's legit 5'11 you could ask rob.
James said on 24/Apr/16
I believe the the average height for the younger generation in Spain/Italy is 177/178 cm.
In Portugal it should be around 175 cm. In France probably around 178/179 cm. In Germany should be 180-183 cm depending on region.
James said on 24/Apr/16
@ Francis
The football players whose names you mentioned are on the shorter spectrum of the Spainish football team.
According to Fifa 2014 Spain squad is ~ 179.8 cm on average. All players you mentioned are shorter than the average. You're trying to sell Spain shorter than it actually is. At 5'9, you couldn't "tower " over people not in a western world at least. Also, you couldn't use major cities like Madrid since there's a large immigrant population from South America, North Africa and Europe. They bring down the average.
James said on 24/Apr/16
What's with all these people downgrading the average height or claiming themselves "tall" at 5'7. - 5'9.
Lots of people are arguing the stats from study of China and Germany are self reported so average height is exaggerated. Let me argue this point. Both surveys include thousands of men German survey aprox 32000 and China survey include 5000 men. Unless almost all men in the survey exaggerate their height, it would not affect the stats profoundly. The most would be 1 or 2 cm more than it actually is. Why would most people exaggerate height of more then 3 cm in survey, there's no point lying. It's unlike a situation where someone ask how tall you are in person .
And I can tell you one thing for sure, most other figures I check for China and Germany all come up to the same figures, almost all. Don't tell more all of them are self reported some are definitely measured.
c-mo said on 24/Apr/16
Johan said on 22/Apr/16
c-mo said on 22/Apr/16

" However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that " - says who ? who makes these rules ? a 179cm night guy can easily claim 5'11 and he even SHOULD claim it

To most people it wouldn't matter but if someone is close in height they will call you out. I stand 6'0.75" near the evening when i'm not at my worst and a guy who is 2 inches shorter is easy to spot. So I know well enough what a legit 5'11" looks like. I will admit though that many guys who claim to be 5'11" don't even reach my mouth with their eye level. Thats not an excuse though for boosting yourself a 0.5 inch.

Its besides the point however as people who use metric ( the superior, more accurate system) will just say 179 cm.

Like I said before, if it was me I would say " almost 5'11"". Thats very accurate.

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nobody can "call you out" on something which is the truth. if you are 179cm at night then you are a 180cm guy ...or even if we dont agree on this then at least we can say that when a 179cm/night guy claims 180cm only obsessed weirdos will call him out on it . I have the feeling that some of the guys here on this site are actually autists . it is typical for autism to obsess over numbers etc. no offense . a few guys seem to suffer from aspergers or something "I am 189.5cm out of bed and 187cm at night but I claim 6'1 and I feel so short I wish I was 7'0".... gtfo ...get real people

and no if you take your late morning/noon/afternoon height you dont "boost yourself 0.5 inches"....what you do by that is that you just dont claim your lowest height ...why would you claim your lowest height it doesnt make any sense ...as I said most people even add easily 2-3cm on their height ( I have witnessed it often in real life) so why would you claim your loweeeest !!!! omg why . claiming your average height (morning/night) is NOT lying and is NOT adding extra height because it is your height and part of your body . you say you are 186.5cm morning and 184.3 cm at night ...well you are a 185cm guy no questions . some users here would claim 184cm if they were you hahahaha xD sorry but it is so ridiculous

also to stay on the example of a 179cm night guy ..when a 179cm/night guy wears dress shoes and goes out nobody will doubt him that he is 180cm ...nobody except as I said maybe 1% of people who have a weird obsession and eyes of a hawk . in general nobody can tell the difference of 1cm anyway
Ice said on 24/Apr/16
Id say that once you dont fall under a solid 6'0 " your alright in Austria . Youll still feel short at times if youre like 6'1 in the morning and 6'0 at afternoon / evening ,but its barable . You still wont be classified as a short man . Ive never been to the Dinaric Alps , where average height really seems to be a legit 6'1 , and 20 % of all men are over 190 cm , I guess you would feel very short there if youre around 6 foot .
Dee said on 23/Apr/16
I honestly dont know if 6'1-6'2 can be considered a solid tall height anymore. I'm 6'1 at my lowest, and usually around 6'1.5 during the day. I have tons of friends in school who are around my height range(6'1-6'2) so it's not really that uncommon to be this height. Plus I visited a college that I plan on going to recently and I didn't feel that tall at all, saw lots of guys who were taller than me and I even saw 2 women who were taller than me. Idk,its weird being a 6'1 guy. sometimes, I feel like a giant, and some other times, I Feel like I'm barely above average.
ryan said on 23/Apr/16
hi guys! i just turned 13 and i'm 180 cm but i have a bone age of a 15 years old. how much can i grow?
Ice said on 23/Apr/16
"Average height in Holland is 6'5" ok , now you guys are going too far .
Ice said on 23/Apr/16
The tallest man Ive ever seen was black and like 7'8 . He would take the same underground I did in the morning for a while . He got in to the underground and had to literally duck like 1 foot just to be able to stand . I asked him how tall he was in German, all he said was "I dont know" in english , with a extremeley deep voice . It was quite a unique experience . Ive seen some extremeley tall men , but none even remoteley compared to him . Theres even an article about him in the internet , and nobody knows who he is .
John said on 23/Apr/16
Canson,
I have got mixed feelings about my height (I'm 6ft 8 in dress shoes, 6ft 7 barefoot). I have always been very big for my age, as big and tall as my 3 1/2 year-older brother, until I was 12 and got visibly taller than him and my father. At 13 I had outgrown them by 4 or 5 inches. Then I started posting here. I started dating a 5ft 11 tall girl (who first thought I was 18). At 15 I was extremely insecure about my height when I was with my brother and didn't understand why I was so tall and he and my father were so small. The only explanation was that I had taken after my mother's family. Strangely I felt like 'remorse' for my brother, while he enjoyed the fact that he had an almost two-meter-tall brother to 'protect' him, and I shouldn't feel guity for that, very much the opposite.
Now I feel perfectly happy with my height. True that I have a limited clothes and especially footwear selection (most mens' clothes departments look like a children's dept for us... but you've got the tall men's department); not enough legroom in planes, etc; but there are many advantages too. i feel that if I had to 'step down' from my height now I would become unprotected, because I am used to talk to people from the height of my 'tower'. It would be like getting back to my childhood, when I was as tall as most adults...
truth said on 23/Apr/16
In the Netherlands average height is 183-184cm MAX.
Aaron183cm said on 22/Apr/16
@Ian

It's not too uncommon for me to be the tallest if there's fewer than 10 guys. If there's more than 10 I don't count on it, because there's usually always a few 6'1-6'2 guys around. Doesn't mean 6' isn't weak tall, though. I've really paid attention to my height in the past few months and 6' definitely fits the "weak tall" label. Meaning that I'll be in the top quartile height of men almost 100% of the time.

Just lol at delusional height neurosis idiots/trolls who think 5'11-6' is average for young men. I'm guessing these guys get towered by a few men out of hundreds and conclude that 6' must be only average. just lol. People often appear taller at a distance (I'll see a guy 30ft away who I think looks 6'2" but when I get closer up he's actually eye level with me). It's just something to take into account. Perspective can play tricks sometimes. I've learned not to judge a person's height unless I am standing right next to them, on even ground. Just walking around Washington State University campus there's a bajillion sub 5'8" white men walking around if you just pay attention and stop remembering only the people taller than you.
179cm said on 22/Apr/16
c-mo said on 22/Apr/16
" However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that " - says who ? who makes these rules ? a 179cm night guy can easily claim 5'11 and he even SHOULD claim it

a man who is 179cm at night will wake up at around 181-181.5cm and will be 180cm for a significant amount of time of the day . I know you dont want to accept it but we have something called morning height and we are taller in the noon/midday than at evening/night too . the height earlier in the day is also part of us and should be both embraced and also counted even if you dont want to accept it .

but yeah keep thinking that our real height (which we also should claim) is the height we are after being 100 hours awake and after having climbed the mount everrest . why not also hunch your knees a little when you get measured ? to play it safe

yeah thats it ! that is the ultimate way of doing it . lets say a guy who is 184cm out of bed wants to know his height . he should stay awake for 16 hours , should have a heavy working day preferably something where he is standing and walking most of the day and after the work he should do some weight training . then after the 16 hours he should measure himself but his knees and back should be a little buckled because hey we dont walk completely straight usually so when we measure we also should stand loose !!!!! by doing that the 184cm out of bed guy should measure about 179cm or so and thats his height !!! maybe he should even claim 5'10 flat to be "modest" right ? you got it bro ! that is the perfect way thank you and congratulations . everybody who has logic will agree with you and even doctors will agree with you

man how stupid I was

Haha. Well if you think about it downgrading your height is no more accurate or honest than upgrading yourself, and why would you sell yourself short? Also, you can only be approximate anyway so why is it so bad to round to the nearest inch. A guy who claims 5'11" at 182cm is not being any more honest/accurate than a guy who claims 6 feet at 182 cm. If you measure 5 or so hours out of bed then that should give you a pretty good idea of how tall you are on average.
Justanotherguy said on 22/Apr/16
@James

Take a look at the methodology of that study. Those are not measured heights. Instead they are surveys which means absolutely nothing since everyone lies or exaggerates their height. No way the average height for men in china is 5'8.
Johan said on 22/Apr/16
Also many people should conduct here experiments of their own in relation to how they shrink over day. Most of us shrink 2 cm sometimes a little more, it all depends on the length of your spine so obviously the really big guys shrink more.

Morning : 186.5 cm

Dinnertime:(6pm) 184.7cm

At Worst : 184.3 cm

So I take the average of 184.5 cm and round that to 185 cm.

For the people who think your morning height means anything at all - I already shrink from 186.5 cm to 185.2cm in TWO hours out of bed. Ofc im at work twisting and bending but that shows that even lunch measurement on an active day is a decent measurement.

A good way for the students or less active people would be to go for a long walk ( an Hour or something) after you wake and then measure yourself. That would be pretty close to the truth.
Johan said on 22/Apr/16
c-mo said on 22/Apr/16

" However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that " - says who ? who makes these rules ? a 179cm night guy can easily claim 5'11 and he even SHOULD claim it

To most people it wouldn't matter but if someone is close in height they will call you out. I stand 6'0.75" near the evening when i'm not at my worst and a guy who is 2 inches shorter is easy to spot. So I know well enough what a legit 5'11" looks like. I will admit though that many guys who claim to be 5'11" don't even reach my mouth with their eye level. Thats not an excuse though for boosting yourself a 0.5 inch.

Its besides the point however as people who use metric ( the superior, more accurate system) will just say 179 cm.

Like I said before, if it was me I would say " almost 5'11"". Thats very accurate.
John said on 22/Apr/16
Alright folks, it's safe to say that this section of celebheights should not be taken serious, aslong as this discussion is still going on. A lot of bad trolling in here. I'll just read through the lines when I'm bored.
Francis said on 22/Apr/16
I for one have visited Spain numerous times. I've been to majour cities such as Madrid and Malaga and I can assure that the height average is nothing above 5'9" (175-176cm). I'm 5'9" myself and I remember that on the street I would tower over a lot of guys, and I could notice guys taller than me but not a lot. It is known that latin countries are on the shorter side than northern countries; I'm speaking of Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Romania.
Also speaking about football, should I mention Spain's national football team? Their golden generation is comprised of:
Andres Iniesta 170cm
Xavi Hernandez 168cm
David Silva 170cm
Juan Mata 170cm
Jordi Alba 170cm
Santi Cazorla 165cm
Pedro Rodriguez 167cm
Jesus Navas 170cm
All are ethnic Spaniards so it is safe to say the 5'9" listing is true
plus said on 22/Apr/16
the universities, and most of all the richest universities have an average taller than normal people, I'm aware of it. Many people here are only considering youngsters of richest universities. But I think we have to consider plain people, we are everyday around women, kids, young, old men, etc... so the perception and the people we met normally is related to how we feel
179cm said on 22/Apr/16
french guy said on 21/Apr/16
@c-mo

the best height for a man is 190 cm
i will go from 183 cm to 190 cm at night, i'm sure i will feel a lot better.Atleast i'm sure that i will never feel short in Hamburg where the average height is 183 or 186 cm, whatever

No, that's where you're wrong, it won't make you feel a lot better. If you were 6'3" then you'd just wish you were 6'8", or else you'd find some other way to feel inadequate. If you're not satisfied when you're 6'0" then I very much doubt your life would miraculously improve with another 3 inches.
Ice said on 22/Apr/16
@french guy you dont think people will notice that your suddenly 190 cm ? Youll come across very strange . Plus you wont be able to exceed at any sport with your legs leangthened , youll just be a fake 190 cm who could never accept his height and will be limited in comparison to REAL 190 cm guys .
Ice said on 22/Apr/16
I want nothing more in life than to be tall . Its like my biggest wish . Im not joking . Im not happy with my height at all at 189 cm - 187 cm .
179cm said on 22/Apr/16
Johan said on 21/Apr/16
People are free to claim what they want just be aware some people will call you out if they are modest themselves.

Well downgrading yourself is no more accurate than upgrading yourself. I don't see a problem with rounding to the nearest inch and claiming your lunch time height. People who call others out on that are being way too obsessive for one thing.
Johan said on 22/Apr/16
179cm said on 21/Apr/16

I don't really understand this. 5'11" is 180cm to the nearest cm so people who claim 5'11" would round to 180cm.
182cm is more than just 5'11", closer to 6 feet. I don't know why you're downgrading people.


Yes and if on the off chance you are around 180cm at your lowest I think it is fine.

Another point is that a true 5'11" guy should measure 182cm out of bed. That would put you at 180cm at least at night or after a rough day.

Im not downgrading anyone what im doing is trying to establish what 5'11" is so 5'9"-5'10" guys stop claiming it. This range is why everyone gets their height wrong. Scraping 180cm at lunch does not a 5'11" guy make.

Most guys who are 182 cm morning would be 181cm in afternoon so thats just a solid /legit 5'11" guy.

183cm out of bed would most likely be a 5'11.5" guy.

181cm out of bed would be a 5'10.5" guy.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 22/Apr/16
@Canson: I would really say that the area from 6ft8-6ft11 is where you'd have those issues and 7ft+ is just on another level. That's a health hazard. If you play basketball, fantastic but Id imagine a long flight would be quite gruelling. I'm 6ft4 (6ft3⅞ absolute low at midnight/6ft4⅝ straight out of bed) and I've never had any problems like that at all. 6ft5-6ft7 I think have their advantages.
175 cm said on 22/Apr/16
Click Here
Here's another file that links to a study of average heights in Germany. Published in 2013. I don't know whether I linked that correctly.
But according to it, average of whole Germany is 178 cm for all ages and 181 cm for younger generation.
That's a solid 5'11 for younger Germans, don't know whether they include immigrants.
According to the same study, the average Hamburg resident is 180 cm for men 166 cm for women of all ages.
So it's most likely 183 cm and 168 cm for younger generation respectively. That means average Hamburg resident is pretty similar height compared to the Dutch/Danish, it's also in north Germany between these two countries.
Also German state of Schleswig-Holstein have similar height to that of Hamburg, it's located near the border of Denmark.

I think the source uses self-reported heights. I speak German so... it's what I read...
So we don't have a "real" figure for Hamburg.
175 cm said on 22/Apr/16
James average height in Holland is 6ft 5, it's a fact you cannot deny.
Damn you're just to silly to measure your own height - that's the problem.
c-mo said on 22/Apr/16
Johan said on 20/Apr/16


5'11" is 180.34cm since you want to be picky. However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that so I will adjust to 180.4cm instead of 180.5cm. ".

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" However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that " - says who ? who makes these rules ? a 179cm night guy can easily claim 5'11 and he even SHOULD claim it

a man who is 179cm at night will wake up at around 181-181.5cm and will be 180cm for a significant amount of time of the day . I know you dont want to accept it but we have something called morning height and we are taller in the noon/midday than at evening/night too . the height earlier in the day is also part of us and should be both embraced and also counted even if you dont want to accept it .

but yeah keep thinking that our real height (which we also should claim) is the height we are after being 100 hours awake and after having climbed the mount everrest . why not also hunch your knees a little when you get measured ? to play it safe

yeah thats it ! that is the ultimate way of doing it . lets say a guy who is 184cm out of bed wants to know his height . he should stay awake for 16 hours , should have a heavy working day preferably something where he is standing and walking most of the day and after the work he should do some weight training . then after the 16 hours he should measure himself but his knees and back should be a little buckled because hey we dont walk completely straight usually so when we measure we also should stand loose !!!!! by doing that the 184cm out of bed guy should measure about 179cm or so and thats his height !!! maybe he should even claim 5'10 flat to be "modest" right ? you got it bro ! that is the perfect way thank you and congratulations . everybody who has logic will agree with you and even doctors will agree with you

man how stupid I was
Ian said on 21/Apr/16
GENERAL Q To ALL: How often do you find yourself in situations where you're the tallest or at least part of the tall sector relative to whatever room, elevator, shop, or any kind of closed space?

I made a conscious effort to do this today and I actually found myself to be at the very least on the lower end of the tall sector relative to whatever space I was in. Hope this wasn't just a lucky day.
Peter 180cm said on 21/Apr/16
@ mont I don't actually know their exact heights,it's likely in the 5'7 range,although one is fractionally taller than the other,probably a good cm...To be honest though,im closer to 179cm evening time,180cm is my late morning/early midday or perhaps at around 2-3 pm height.But it's only about a cm difference,no one can spot that unless they were an expert like Big Rob ;)!! Seriously though,height perception is really skewed with most people, i know a girl who claims 173cm,she's maybe 167-168 and says she doesn't want to wear high heels because she's 'very tall' lol when she's infact only 4-5cm taller than the average woman...Go figure.
Rory said on 21/Apr/16
@Rick..you cant take the premier league average height as representative of English youth average...firstly most of the players or at least half are foreign coming from all corners of the globe, and secondly footballers are specimens, they've exercised, they've grown up on nutritious diets mostly, so they're likely to be taller than average id say.
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@James St: "6'2-6'4" is average because so many people who aren't that claim it. the lying (adding phantom inches, shoes, etc) and morning measurements esp when someone rounds up. These 5'11-6'2 guys diminish what a "true" 6'2-6'4 looks like.
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@ICE: 189-190 would make you a strong 6'2. That's a great height. At worst a flat 6'2 which is a great height. Less drawbacks. That's if you really are that height?? People that are 6'2 legitimately don't usually make those insecure stupid comments and air their dirty laundry over how "short" they are. 6'2 is well above average esp if it's a proper 6'2. I'm 194 at my lowest and Don't see what the diff is between 194-195 and being that size 189-190 other than buying larger clothes to fit you and maybe a larger vehicle and when You don't play pro sports to where you need your height. Sure you tower over people but you're talking 2" or so LOL!
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@Mont: thank you! One of my biggest pet peeves. These are the ones who not only screw the perception up its these that start these stupid arguments or explanations that have to be given when you "are" telling the truth. Not all of us "want" to be taller. Some of us are content with our height. Selfish all because they're insecure with their height. Got a kick out of it once. someone said I was 6'6 to another person and when I corrected them "well I was helping you out." I laughed and said I don't need the help you do with your insecurity and not to involve me. He lied about his own height all the time which is why he inflated mine. I only know because I called him his actual height of 5'9 and he said well I'm over 5'10 in shoes. It's worse when someone is 6'4.5 and have people trying to convince you that you are 6'6 all because their "sister's brother's 3rd cousin removed" is 6'4 and you look way taller. there is no incentive for anyone this size to claim more
175 cm said on 21/Apr/16
@Rick
"All" soccer players add at least 1inch.
plus said on 21/Apr/16
@Rick in the Premier League there are lots of 5'11 listed players that actually are 5'9: Mark Noble, Oxlade Chamberlain, Andros Townsend, etc. Even 5'7 Bojan is listed 5'8. But yes, the average in sports in higher that in the street
french guy said on 21/Apr/16
@c-mo

the best height for a man is 190 cm
i will go from 183 cm to 190 cm at night, i'm sure i will feel a lot better.Atleast i'm sure that i will never feel short in Hamburg where the average height is 183 or 186 cm, whatever
175 cm said on 21/Apr/16
@Ice
Good news! :)
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@James B: you hit it on the head with your earlier post. I love all these people claiming that 6'5" or over is "good" or "ideal" height. If you are a pro athlete yes. If not, you're screwed! Take it from a 6'4.5 guy, it's nice to be tall but for practicality anything above solid 6'4 is really a lot. And by that I mean if you don't fall below 6'4 flat. Once around flat 6'5 you start limiting footwear selection. Yes, around 6'5!!! 6'5 in the sense of you don't fall below (at worst 6'4.75 in the evening). Not someone who measures 6'4.75 when or an hr after they wake lol. Notice you don't see a lot of "legit" 6'5-6'5 1/2 guys wearing boots. It's always guys claiming to be 6'5 that are 6'5 in those boots. Once you are 6'5 barefoot you're indeed north of 6'6 flat in boots in the trouble zone. There is nothing good about being 6'6 or more in shoes. Way too tall for real life
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@James B: you hit it on the head with your earlier post. I love all these people claiming that 6'5" or over is "good" or "ideal" height. If you are a pro athlete yes. If not, you're screwed! Take it from a 6'4.5 guy, it's nice to be tall but for practicality anything above solid 6'4 is really a lot. And by that I mean if you don't fall below 6'4 flat. Once around flat 6'5 you start limiting footwear selection. Yes, around 6'5!!! 6'5 in the sense of you don't fall below (at worst 6'4.75 in the evening). Not someone who measures 6'4.75 when or an hr after they wake lol. Notice you don't see a lot of "legit" 6'5-6'5 1/2 guys wearing boots. It's always guys claiming to be 6'5 that are 6'5 in those boots. Once you are 6'5 barefoot you're indeed north of 6'6 flat in boots in the trouble zone. There is nothing good about being 6'6 or more in shoes. Way too tall for real life
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@Hoost and Ice: tell me you are both joking 210 cm is a good height???? For common people meaning if you aren't a pro athlete???? If having to order specially made vehicles, clothes, etc along with not being able to sit in a normal seat or airplane and having to duck under every doorway imaginable is your thing then more power to you! Obviously neither of you is very tall. That's common for shorter people to want to be taller but you have to be it to truly appreciate it!!! I am 6'4.5 (exacrly 196 Out of bed) and it is plenty. I honestly wouldn't want any taller. IMO, A legit 6'5, meaning someone who doesn't fall below 6'4.75 maybe is about as tall as one could be to still have a normal life. And That's only about .3-.35 above where I fall on a "normal" day. 6'5 flat at the low is about the ceiling for normal tall. It is really where problems "can" begin for anyone. I only know having thrown boots and high footwear on very very early in the morning when I still measure around 6'5 and have been able to get a glimpse and it is a lot even there. You at that stage, are "over" 6'6 in boots as most add 1-1.5". But most don't know how that really looks or feels. Perspective, you are 6'6.25 in boots means you have less than an inch on some doorways, less than 2 on others, and some you have pushed it already. Problem is most people don't know how 6'5 looks in person. I'm not talking a "6'3" guy or 6'2.5 guy claiming shoes and saying 6'5 or a 6'3.75-6'4 evening guy claiming 6'5. And Nope not the Rock either. Go look at Howard Stern a legit 6'5. Or even Wlad Klitschko who spends virtually the entire day above 6'5 flat and doubt he even comes down that low. He's a strong 6'5.
James B said on 21/Apr/16
Well I was just trying to be honest with how tall I can feel (with thick shoes and good postutre) at my height. In clubs you can get guys who are well under 5'7 like 5'2 or 5'4 so that's why I can tower some guys and obviously I feel short around guys who are 6'2. In fact an associate of mine who claimed to be 5'10 (I think he's taller than that) and I feel kind of towered by him. He's rake thin though which can help you look taller. Generally I will feel short around a 'skinny' 5'10-5'11 man.

I could be a little over 5'7 like close to 5'7.5 and walk around closer to 5'8 in thick shoes/trainers.



I understand my claims have made me somewhat of a laughing stock on this thread.
Canson said on 21/Apr/16
@Plus: agreed that it doesn't change "much" usually only lose 1/4" after the first two hrs. You Generally lose the first half inch in the first two hrs (maybe up to 3/8 the first hr then 1/8 the 2nd or .3/.2) then the remainder gradually. I'd say really after about 5 maybe 6 hrs you're at your normal height for the day unless you're reclined regularly.
179cm said on 21/Apr/16
Johan said on 20/Apr/16
5'11" is 180.34cm since you want to be picky. However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that so I will adjust to 180.4cm instead of 180.5cm. Most guys would round to 181cm so my point holds.

182cm is also still a 5'11" guy just a strong one.

I also posted that 180cm is 5'10.75" which means you would be a weak 5'11" guy. So I would claim to be almost 5'11" if it were me. Thats not a legit 5'11".

I don't really understand this. 5'11" is 180cm to the nearest cm so people who claim 5'11" would round to 180cm.
182cm is more than just 5'11", closer to 6 feet. I don't know why you're downgrading people.
James said on 21/Apr/16
Let's talk about statistics in US. I mentioned earlier that the current stats is clearly outdated.
According to the average height on Wikipedia page, the average non-Hispanic white Americans is 178.4 cm.
But take a look. I'll point out the errors:
1. It covers large age range of 20-39. If we only include 20-24 it would be higher.
2. It's measured in 2007- 2010. That was 6-9 years ago. The current young generation is definitely taller.
3. It includes all income group. If you include only upper income groups, it's definitely higher. Especially those educated and higher income. College students are good example.
With that said in 2016 the upper class white American in U.S. Is nowhere lower than 5'11 for young people and nowhere lower than 6 feet in my university.
James said on 21/Apr/16
@ Ice
The tallest man I've probably seen was in Düsseldorf Germany at the airport. He was more than a head taller than everyone else, most people were around his chest maybe less. He looks unusually tall like twice the length of the average man. I don't know his height though but probably over 7 feet. Coincidentally the I saw a 6'3 women in the same airport on the same day.
James said on 21/Apr/16
@Hoost
I didn't say Northern Europeans are at least 6'5 I haven't been to Netherlands or north Europe, but you're probably right. I'm just saying younger generation Asians are much taller and almost similar height compared to Europeans.
The average urban male in Beijing measured in 2005 is ~ 175 cm. Its prob 176 cm at 2016.
I remember someone by the name Thomas6ft1 who's 6'1 went to Netherlands.
He mentioned he wore boots that brought him to 6'2 and at that height he felt short in Netherlands. He also mentioned that being 2-4 inches height increase would reduce the horrible feeling. So makes sense that average height in Netherlands is 6 ft 5.
James said on 21/Apr/16
Click Here
This is an official study of average heights in different states in China. Measured in 2005.
You can see the average urban male in Beijing is 174.97 cm and 162.23 cm for women.
Average height for urban male and women in Shandong is 175.31 cm and 163.11 cm respectively.
You can see that northern China have taller people than south, similar applies for Europe.
That goes to say that the tallest Asians are northern Chinese not South Koreans.
There's a similar study by WHO carried out in China. According to study average height is approximately 174-175 cm in large coastal cities in China. The study doesn't include income group
Now in 2016, average height in Beijing is among 20-24 yrs is easily 176 cm probably more around 176-177 for upper income groups. The younger generation of Asians are getting taller at a very rapid rate since China is developing fast. The 2005 stats is outdated even so the average in Beijing is already ~ 175 cm by then.
truth said on 21/Apr/16
@175cm I said 2cm difference IN height not height alone. And the 181cm is probably average morning height for young Germans and 179cm is a nighttime measurement. My point still stands.
@James St. 175cm or 5ft9 is roughly an inch under average from where I live and 2 inches for younger males. That is below average in the first case and shortish in the second.
@PaulAllen Did not realise Canadians are that short: In Slovenia (where I am from) male heights in class were: 1 6ft6, 1 6ft5.5, 1 6ft5, 2 6ft4, 2 6ft3, 3 6ft2, 5 6ft1, 5 6ft0, 7 5ft11, 4 5ft10, 4 5ft9, 2 5ft8, 2 5ft7, 2 5ft6 and 1 5ft5. 6ft0 is just over average and grey area between average (5ft11) and tall (6ft1+).
James said on 21/Apr/16
@ James St
I'm at University of Minnesota Minneapolis. Most people on my campus are over 6 feet. Almost everyone I hang out with on campus are over 6 feet too. I've a friend 6'1, we went out today, from behind he looks just average when walking on campus. They are even some guys that tower over him.
James said on 21/Apr/16
Click Here
Here's another file that links to a study of average heights in Germany. Published in 2013. I don't know whether I linked that correctly.
But according to it, average of whole Germany is 178 cm for all ages and 181 cm for younger generation.
That's a solid 5'11 for younger Germans, don't know whether they include immigrants.
According to the same study, the average Hamburg resident is 180 cm for men 166 cm for women of all ages.
So it's most likely 183 cm and 168 cm for younger generation respectively. That means average Hamburg resident is pretty similar height compared to the Dutch/Danish, it's also in north Germany between these two countries.
Also German state of Schleswig-Holstein have similar height to that of Hamburg, it's located near the border of Denmark.
179cm said on 21/Apr/16
@c-mo

I agree with you. There's no reason to claim your lowest height, averaging it out is probably the most reasonable thing to do. Yeah, I doubt many people would actually want to be something like 210 cm tall. Being overly tall isn't necessarily any more desirable than being overly short. I do think it's too easy to say these things like "the average guy is 6 feet plus". It only seems that way because people aren't noticing all the people who are only average or shorter. Yeah, there's no reason that you should feel short at 177cm - it's a very average height.

"the only reason why so many guys here want to be really tall is that humans are never satisfied and want more and more." - Yeah, I think you nailed it with that comment. If your life sucks at 6 feet then it will probably still suck at 6'5".
MD said on 21/Apr/16
There has been a ridiculous decline in the quality of comments in this thread in recent months. Not exactly sure what explains it. It's all right to have differences of opinion, but when dealing with discussions where actual numbers and facts can be presented, it seems kind of silly to see people making silly claims and laying opinion (and particularly ridiculous opinon) out as if it were fact.
Johan said on 21/Apr/16
truth said on 20/Apr/16
180-180.5cm is 5ft11 and if you measure midday at least a solid 180cm you can claim 5ft11 for crying out loud. 181-182cm is 5ft11.5, 182-183cm is 6ft0.


180 cm on the nose is not 5'11". If your around the mark at your absolute lowest then I would agree but most go with midday like you said. You should be a solid 180 cm to claim 5'11".

Its the same if your rounding to 185cm or a flat 185cm midday thats not a 6'1" guy. More of a weak 6'1" or strong 6'0". People are free to claim what they want just be aware some people will call you out if they are modest themselves.

182cm isn't 6ft either.

6'0 = 182.88cm so basically 182.9cm . Thats a 183cm guy. Sure if your above 182.5cm at your worst its fine.
Lewis said on 21/Apr/16
Everyone here is so insecure about his height that it makes me feel sorry for them and the way they perceive life. Worrying if you are of average height or 1 inch taller, wow. Honestly you're making me sad, I feel sorry for some guys in here
SAK said on 21/Apr/16
Ice said: "And once he stood next to me (189 cm) looked up and said : I actually dont feel that short when standing next to you . And Im almost 20 cm taller"
____________________________________________

Stand infront of a mirror when standing next to him. That will clear his denial.

In the past I felt I was close in height to people who were 1-3" taller than me, and then I realised I was quite a bit shorter when by chance there was reflection to compare off.
PetePro said on 21/Apr/16
@Canary re. "Short boy": You are on the right track. At school he was very sporty and was particularly talented at Lacrosse. He even did Wrestling (like his younger brother, who excelled in it).

In terms of compensation, let's just say he's a bit of a "lady's man". Nature made him cute handsome.
Zach Kleese said on 20/Apr/16
I live in Las Vegas so I see a lot of people from all over the world. Here's my chart on male height:

5'7"- Short- You're short, but you aren't as short as you may think. Most people will not care to comment on your height.

5'8"- Below Average- This is tricky, you're below average on paper, but an inch below national average of 5'9" isn't much. I'd say slightly below average is the way to go.

5'9"- Average- You're average in every sense of the word, you shouldn't feel short nor tall.

Now I believe 5'10" is the start of half an inch making a difference, especially if you can hold onto it at night.

5'10"- Average/Slightly Above average- Amongst young white men(18-35) you're gonna feel average, but in a diverse crowd(age/ethnicity/gender) you should start to feel above average.

5'10".5- Above average/Bordering on tallish- People will start to notice that you are above average. I don't think anyone will describe you as tall.

5'11"- Above average/Tallish- This is when you'll start hearing "You're taller than I thought.".
You should feel good at this height. You may not tower anyone, but you'll be comfortable.

5'11".5- Tallish- No other word describes this height as accurately. You're not tall enough for anyone to comment on it, but believe me they notice.

6'0"- Tallish- A few comments here or there. Nothing new.

6'0".5- Tallish/Bordering on tall- comments are more frequent. You should start feeling tall, because you're damn close to being it.

6'1"- Tall- a group of young white men or a diverse group of people it doesn't matter, you stand out amongst both. This is the start of tall.

That's my chart, hope some of you guys agree.:)
Crypto139 said on 20/Apr/16
Continuation ~

I also average the females of each group.

Mom's side with 2 of shrinking age. One of the shrinking age women is nearly 80 BTW.

Average for females is 168.8 cm

Then the females on my dad's side. With one of extreme shrinking age.

Average is only 161 cm tall.

Finally the female classmates of mine.

Average is 163.615 cm.

So the females I come in contact with are about 164.5 cm tall. Average all together for both genders is about 171.915 cm tall. So at 171.3 cm I am short. Such a sad day.
Crypto139 said on 20/Apr/16
So going by that the average height for the males of my family on both sides and my schoolmates is 179.33 or basically 5'10.6". So people of most races and ages of which I know are that height as I don't have much contact with other groups. I also went to a funeral on my mom's father side and it had mostly Retirement age African-American Males there. I don't exactly know their heights by the number so I can't average it. Though man they were tall. Definitely averaged above my dad's 177-178 for sure. Also they were all in their 60's mostly. Though statically older Black males should only be 175 cm at best.
Crypto139 said on 20/Apr/16
The average height in America is about 178-179 range on my opinion. I averaged a bunch of random groups of people I know. I included myself in all as I am apart of all of them. Also these are what I believe they are. A few have been measured and I compare others to them and compare them to myself. A few over inflate but I put down the height I see that is closest.

Average of males on my mom's side at a party. Middle age to Old African-American Males. I was the only teenager there. One guy of obivious shrinking age.

Average is 180.29 cm for males on my mom's side

Males on my dad's side. Mostly Caucasian males with age ranges of Mid 20's to 60. About 3 guys of shrinking age.

Average is 179.15 cm

My classroom

Teenage guys from 17 to 19. About 2 Hispanics. With the rest Caucasian. Though the Hispanic guys are 176 and 179 so not short.

Average for that group is only 178.55 cm.

Also I am about 171.3 cm myself.
mont said on 20/Apr/16
@Peter 180, I suggest you, being a friend, make them realize the truth and call them out on their ridiculous tactics and lies. I seriously can't stand people who claim to be 2 to 3 inches taller than they really are, especially if they know it's a lie. Your friends are the pefect examples of why people have misconceptions about certain heights, like 178. That too, if a real 178 cm person told the truth that they really are 178 cm, according to the misconception of a 5'7 person claiming to be 5'10, that would make the legit 5'10 person in the other person's eyes 6'1 which again just adds to the bull****. People, just tell the goddamn truth already and accept it. Stop being brainwashed.
Jedi Master 6'0" said on 20/Apr/16
New name. Not claiming 5'11" anymore. Too much of a mouthful man.
John said on 20/Apr/16
PetePro,
What an interesting study!
Despite the importance of the improvement of living standards there are other factors that influence growth, such as sport and outdoor life, eg. The present stagnation and even decrease in average height in developed countries is probably due to the more sedentary way of life of the generations after the 'baby boomers'.
I can find more people closer to my height in the age group between 35 and 45 than in my own age group (I'm 19).
John said on 20/Apr/16
PetePro,
What an interesting study!
Despite the importance of the improvement of living standards there are other factors that influence growth, such as sport and outdoor life, eg. The present stagnation and even decrease in average height in developed countries is probably due to the more sedentary way of life of the generations after the 'baby boomers'.
I can find more people closer to my height in the age group between 35 and 45 than in my own age group (I'm 19).
Canary said on 20/Apr/16
@Johan: You may be right. American white women, under 30, might be shorter than 5'5, on average. Supposedly, the official average is something like 5'4.8. That's not much shorter than 5'5. They seem taller than that in my area, though. Perhaps you were in a "short area" when you visited the United States. That may be why the girls looked tiny to you. I bet that they wouldn't seem so short if you visited the Upper Midwest.
Rick said on 20/Apr/16
If you look at most english premier league teams squad you will notice that the shortest players are usually 5'11. Go and do a quick google search, if what i read is accurate the shortest squad in the premier league is everton at 180.5cms Click Here

So much for the uk average being 5'9/10. Its more like 5'11 to 6'0 for most men 18 to 40.

Why do they favour height in the premier league though?
Ice said on 20/Apr/16
At 189 - 190 cm out of bed I am taller than most men on the street , in malls , etc. I am slowly overcomming a severe insecurity of feeling short at like roughly almost 10 cm over average height in Austria . I would walk around in a mall or wherever and exclusiveley notice the men who were taller than me . I also am still overcomming my perception of people who are a little bit shorter than me or the same height - I used to always think they were taller than me . Ive grown 3 cm since I turned 18 (Im turning 19 in 3 months) , I hope to still grow to 194 cm - 195 cm out of bed ..
Hoost said on 20/Apr/16
175 cm said on 20/Apr/16
@Hoost
I would not throw in things that are nonsense, really.
At least post a hyperlink to your "source".
183.7cms is the tallest figure you can find Click Here
Self-reported - the major question is how much they add, 3cms or even 5?

@175 cm. My source was published in 2007, and it was measurement . It was PDF file, and listed the average height of all different states of Germany. You may not find it online. But i downloaded it a few years ago.

Your "source" maybe another database. But if you cannot find the source that I mentioned, do not say any nonsense.
175 cm said on 20/Apr/16
@truth

Germany 18-25 y/o 178.9cms overall 175.4
= -3.5cms
2 or 3.5cms is a small difference but still +75%

But since new generations don't get taller anymore you're right - at least in 50 years ;)
The children of parents born in the 70's "only" get as tall as their parents.
But I can't speak for other nations...
179cm said on 20/Apr/16
James said on 18/Apr/16
Under 6 feet is 100% Manlet status . Goes without saying.

To feel solid average one has to be at least 6'2.

Do you seriously think that, or are you just trying to wind everybody up? I'm 99.98% sure it's the latter.
PaulAllen said on 20/Apr/16
I went to school in Canada, out of all 50 classmates (white, middle-class) that I graduated elementary school with:

-> Nobody is over 6'3 (0%)

-> Only two are in the 6'2 range (4%)

-> 4 -5 are in the 6'1 range (10%)

-> 10 or so in the 6'0 range (20%)

-> The rest in the 5'8 - 5'11 range (65%)

This is probably similar to the United States, Britain and perhaps Central Europe. So according to what I HAVE SEEN, below 6 feet is average, 6'0 on the dot is the grey zone, 6'1 is the very minimum at which you can be considered "tall" and 6'2 is the real beginning of "tall", and everything over 6'2 is legit tall.
James St. said on 20/Apr/16
Truth said: "Younger generations are only roughly 2cm taller than the overall male population."
but then, how can 5'9" be considered shortish at your campus? Shouldn't it be slightly below average?
For instance, if Colin Farrell, Johnny Depp, Jamie Fox, Charlie Sheen and Shia Labeouf were to visit your college for an honorary Ph.D, would they appear shortish?
And what about De Niro and Tom Cruise, next to your fellow students, would they seem "very short"?
Does your college have a good ethnic mix like UCLA or does everyone look like they sprouted from the same gene pool?
Same question to the dude who sees 6'2-6'4 as average. Dang! What milk u been drinking dawg & where u at? All the girls must be super models at your college? Sign me up!!! lol
Johan said on 20/Apr/16
179cm said on 19/Apr/16

I'm afraid that you've converted wrong. 5'11" equals 180.3 cm, 181-182 cm is 5'11.5"
180 cm is more like 5'10" 7/8, it is hardly dishonest to round up 1/8 of an inch?

5'11" is 180.34cm since you want to be picky. However to be a legit 5'11" guy you can't fall under that so I will adjust to 180.4cm instead of 180.5cm. Most guys would round to 181cm so my point holds.

182cm is also still a 5'11" guy just a strong one.

I also posted that 180cm is 5'10.75" which means you would be a weak 5'11" guy. So I would claim to be almost 5'11" if it were me. Thats not a legit 5'11".
175 cm said on 20/Apr/16
@plus
You're absolutely right mate! Spanish "youngsters" are 175.3cms (+5ft 9) on average (possibly late morning). You did say you're 176cms in the evening - definitly tallish in your country!

Dunno why all ppl think guys from Holland are big - only self-reported values. I'm not sure the Sweden could be a tad taller...
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I visited >10 times the Netherlands and they're similar to the Germans. But I saw more often big girls like 5ft 10 and 5ft 11 range. In North Rhine-Westphalia (Western Germany) I tower over 95%.

Last Military Report from Germany quoted 180.4cms (7-11am - Ø 2h out of bed) = CelebHeights 5ft 10.5 or 179cms.
Ice said on 20/Apr/16
I have seen a young asian man in Vienna who was the second tallest man I have ever seen , at that time he was the tallest I had ever seen in my entire life . He was so ridicilously tall it was shocking . I was 185 cm at that time and felt like a little boy next to him . I wasnt able to guess his height , but it was extreme . He spoke fluid german .
Ice said on 20/Apr/16
I have seen a young asian man in Vienna who was the second tallest man I had ever seen , at that time he was the tallest I had ever seen in my entire life . He was so ridicilously tall it was shocking . I was 185 cm at that time and felt like a little boy next to him . I wasnt able to guess his height , but it was extreme . He spoke fluid german .
Cobey said on 20/Apr/16
Rob do you read all the stuff in here? It's worth some laughs.

6'3" average height
Editor Rob: yes I read a fair chunk, I think some of it is interesting, although I think sometimes it shows people do have a lot of worries and differing opinions over height!
c-mo said on 20/Apr/16
Hoost said on 19/Apr/16
@c-mo regarding your question about hamburg : I dont live there so I cant say but the differences between regions are not much anyway and there is no way where anywhere in Ger average is 186cm except maybe in rare situations/occasions

The average height is 186 in hamburg is a measurement data of German government. The age group between 18- 30. They measured thousands and thousands German, the date must be very solid, unless you think you are smarter or better than German government. You can keep saying no way where anywhere in Ger average is 186cm, maybe you think your eyes are more accurate than machine.

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as I said I cant speak of Hamburg and if that what you say is true then that is a big surprise to me because I see more men below 186cm here than above where I live . and yes I believe my eyes because I live here and see many people daily . today when I was walking in the town I gave attention of how my height (~177cm) is compared to other men and it felt VERY solid . I was taller than a good chunk of men (even if not by much in most cases ...like 2-3 cm) . many were around my height or a little above (also 2-3cm) .I saw also some tall guys and those tall guys were mostly 184-190cm range . didnt notice any woman taller than me today either (but some were close to my height)

if you dont believe me thats up to you ...keep thinking that people are giants . and not that I dont believe you dont get me wrong you are probably right about hamburg but I would really love to see the link of that study about man from hamburg

and lol at your comment about 210cm being a good height ...sure for an nba player (even then it is not a healthy and/or practical height) . 210cm is not a good height in general and if you want to be that tall then you are not normal in your head period . in those rare situations where there is a guy above 200cm walking around in the city or nightclub everybody is looking at them and they draw the attention to them because it is such a rare height

are you one of those 185cm guys here who thinks he is not tall enough ? lmao . I have the feeling that many guys who talk like that are blaming their shyness or whatever in real life and the effects of it on their height or something

I suggest you people to take 1 day where you are walking in the city for a long time of the day and make a survey for yourselves with your eyes where you "count" men who are taller and shorter than you and compare it . you will be surprised how many are actually shorter than you

and no I dont say these things to feel better about myself and I am not in denial or something ...I bet some of you think that but that is not the case ...I am just being as realistic and reasonable as I can . would I wish to be taller ? sure ! I would love to be about 182-183cm ( 180cm would be already very nice and I would take it over anything 185cm just being honest ...again 185cm+ is good too dont get me wrong but 180-185cm is better imo) but there is no need to feel bad at my height at all and why should I be like "omg I am so short I wish I was 195cm" when there is no need to and when I feel solid and medium at my height

I have to admit though a few years ago I did feel a bit insecure sometimes (even though also back then people guessed me 180cm constantly) but guess what ? I was in general insecure about everything at that time and that explains a lot
175 cm said on 20/Apr/16
Real value 'governmental' for Hamburg (2015) 180cms (age 18+). 'Mikro-Zensus' are official studies.
Actually 5cms more than German average. So younger adults max. 184cms (179+5) - evening 183?
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James said on 20/Apr/16
I don't know what's going on here. People feeling "tall" when they are clearly below average height.
Tall at 5'7??? Next thing were gonna see comments like " At 5'3 I tower over most men on street"
175 cm said on 20/Apr/16
@Hoost
I would not throw in things that are nonsense, really.
At least post a hyperlink to your "source".
183.7cms is the tallest figure you can find Click Here
Self-reported - the major question is how much they add, 3cms or even 5?
truth said on 20/Apr/16
180-180.5cm is 5ft11 and if you measure midday at least a solid 180cm you can claim 5ft11 for crying out loud. 181-182cm is 5ft11.5, 182-183cm is 6ft0.
175 cm said on 20/Apr/16
@truth
Germany (18-25 y/o) 178.9cms
GER overall (18+) 175 cm
Just google "Height Germany Wiki"
Self-reported 181cms

So mate, dunno which sources gave 2cms :)
truth said on 20/Apr/16
@plus average for Spanish young men is really about 176-177cm and 175cm overall.
Peter 180cm said on 20/Apr/16
@Ice 5'7 is the barrier of not being sure if short or average,your friend has probably not accepted his below-average height,since you said he wears lifts and stands in his toes next to you...I've also met many guys 5'7 or under who either stand tall all the time or even try the tip-toe trick,i have 2 close friends at 5'7 range who are very self-consious about their height,like having impeccable posture or raising their eyelevels up ALOT,standing on toes etc...But mistaking an 8cm difference for a 4 one or even less is understandable,alot of people would say a head-size is about 20cm MAX or half a head is only 6-7cm or whatever...It's just random guesses.Also,does your friend try to claim a taller height on occasions,or is he generally honest?My 2 5'7ish friends claim 176 and 178 respectively(!),they actually believe their own lies lol !!
James said on 20/Apr/16
Just check out "German football team 2016", you would notice many 6'2-6'3 players among them.
I've been to Germany once, can't believe the average is anywhere less 6 feet.
Probably more now since that was 3 years ago.
Dave said on 20/Apr/16
Handsome and height are totally different. A guy may be handsome and have the "handsome height" - but a guy who's a lot more handsome and average height will blow him away. As long as a guy is average height, handsome beats height every time.
truth said on 19/Apr/16
@pablo I think average for a young Chilean is 173cm and 171cm overral (the 169cm measured average on a study on wiki as far as I know is outdated). In EU for young guys the average is more or less 179cm, maybe 178cm evening. So you are tall for a Chilean and around average for a young european. I agree that your height is nothing special and I think that Chile as a fast developing 2nd world country is going to catch up to the EU height average fast and will have easily an 5ft9-10 final height average as some of the most developed countries (Norway, Germany, UK etc.) have stopped growing in height at about 5ft11 and 5ft10 in the UK.
Hoost said on 19/Apr/16
James said on 18/Apr/16
Nowadays when I walk around college campus, I pass by so many 6 ft + Asian males.
They are easily 5'10 on average probably more. Asian women are at least 5'5 + on average.
The younger generation is getting taller and taller by the year. Most stats are clearly outdated.

There are over 2,000 Asian students on my campus, most them are short. some Asian males are over 6' or taller, that makes sense. No way any Asian male is under 180cm. But the average height of young Asian is impossible to be 178 or more unless the young Dutch or Northern Europeans are over 195 cm averagely. South Korea is one of tallest Asian nations, the height 18 years Korean boys was only 173.5 cm, and this data was published by Korean government in 2014. Now it is 2016, I don't think they have grown to be 178 in two years. And I compared Korean basketball clubs and volleyball teams with some European counterparts, these Korean players are much shorter than European ones, even though Korean has 10-20 times population than those small European countries. And there are too many Asian young male in California, they usually are much short than young White and African Americans. My university has 30-40 students are 6'7 plus, none of them is an asian.
plus said on 19/Apr/16
@James That study of 177 cm in Spain is self reported, people add extra cms. I know well what is the average here I see it on the street, and there are stats of studies about 172-175 cm. Most of all the MODE, the most standard height is around 172 cm, sometimes, mean and average height increase due to very tall people. But perhaps Canary is right, some people are just having a laugh here in this crazy section because I thought they should visit to a psychologist
Hoost said on 19/Apr/16
ames said on 17/Apr/16
This is the height chart for males in my college:
< 5'7 = dwaft
5'8 - 5'10 = very short
5'11 - 6'1 = shortish/ below average
6'2 - 6'4 = average
6'5 - 6'7 = above average
6'7 + = tall

Which college?

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