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General Height height: 7ft 6.5in (230 cm)

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120 says on 4/Jul/15
@Dan On average i think you could be about 6'2". If your skull is all nice and average.
176 club says on 4/Jul/15
worldwide average man :173cm 5'8
Women : 160cm 5'3
Daprez says on 4/Jul/15
@Demystified

Good point in adding that big perspective, it really does depend where you live. My dad is just shy of 5ft 6 and he was described as tall in Bolivia. I would be seen as extremely tall over in Bolivia especially when next to women who average 4ft 8.
grizz says on 4/Jul/15
Demystified says on 3/Jul/15
According to the highest of standards, 5'11" is slightly below average in Scandinavian regions. For example, average in Norway is measured precisely at 182.4 cm for 20-25 year old men and 181.6 cm for the 26-35 group. The Netherlands has an estimated average in between 182 and 183.5 cm for the young group. So up to 183 cm can definitely fall in the average height bracket at least in small population clusters. It seems though that the 184-185 cm height bracket is the one that average is really having tremendous difficulty reaching and is definitely above average in the absolute sense, save for mentioning the Dinaric Alps and Montenegro, but those are really small places that are outliers. Conclusion: to be tall in accordance with the highest of standards, one would have to stand no less than 184 cm at night with normal posture. Anything taller than 173 cm at night is above average according to world standards.
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I think strong 6'1 at night might be a bit better if you really never want to feel below average in any place in the world. Dinaric Alps thing was measured on sample of 17 year-olds (they got measured @ 185.6 cm-a little above 6'1), so they still got some growing to do.

In Croatia 18 year-olds are precisely 5'11, but 19 year olds peaked at 180.9 (a bit below 5'11.25) and there we stopped.
So, I think the final height for Dinaric people would be 6'1.25 when some of them reach their peak height.

Basically, anything between 180 and 190 cm is average for this region and anything outside of it is tall/short.
Mid190s says on 4/Jul/15
@Grizz

When there is a 4 inch + disparity in height, it's The shorter person who ends up looking awkward like 80% of the time. You really have to be a top alpha like Tom Cruise to totally flip that scenario and even he struggles at times.
Demystified says on 3/Jul/15
From the big perspective, according to statistics the fact of the matter is that any degree above 5'8" is considered tall for a man in the 21st century world overall as 5'8" is average.

According to the highest of standards, 5'11" is slightly below average in Scandinavian regions. For example, average in Norway is measured precisely at 182.4 cm for 20-25 year old men and 181.6 cm for the 26-35 group. The Netherlands has an estimated average in between 182 and 183.5 cm for the young group. So up to 183 cm can definitely fall in the average height bracket at least in small population clusters. It seems though that the 184-185 cm height bracket is the one that average is really having tremendous difficulty reaching and is definitely above average in the absolute sense, save for mentioning the Dinaric Alps and Montenegro, but those are really small places that are outliers. Conclusion: to be tall in accordance with the highest of standards, one would have to stand no less than 184 cm at night with normal posture. Anything taller than 173 cm at night is above average according to world standards.

Conversely, short doesn't begin according to the lowest of standards unless one falls less than 5'5" (165 cm) which 20-25 year old Vietnamese students average. Taking it one step further, Bolivia averages 5'3" for men. These places do exist, believe it or not.

In the Western world in general, average tends to fall between 175-181 cm. 5'10" appears to be the most commonly occurring average for the Western world. But this entire 175-181 cm average range is considered tallish to very tall when compared to the 173 cm world average.

You have to have the big perspective in mind when doing all these height charts. When someone claims that 5'10.5" is bang on average it just means that it is true in the community in which he resides. However, that really is about 2.5 inches above average in a world that is becoming increasingly cosmopolitan.
Dan says on 3/Jul/15
Rob,how tall am I if my eye level is around the 5'10.5 range? I believe I'm around 6'1 but I'm not sure.
Amaze says on 3/Jul/15
The world isnt designed for those tall people no offense lol, they have many problems. All people that height wish they were shorter. When you wish you were shorter that's when you know your height is bad.
6'0-6'3 is fine honestly, 6'4-5 are OK.
6'4-5 guys even get tall guy issues.. Imagine at 6'6-7+ and over... Nah that's horrible. 6'0-2 best for being tall and comfortable
Amaze says on 3/Jul/15
@Emil182-3cm your height is better and your still tall lol

@Rampage clover come in handy for what?!? Basketball , that's it..
In real life it is too tall.
Anything over 6'5 does not look good and is too tall.
Clothes
Transportation
Awkward
Doorways
Too tall for girls.
Lol that's the first insane post I've seen you do
6'3-4 is fine if you wanna be very tall and reach all the high shelves. 6'5 Max. 6'6 and over is too tall for real life. 6'7+ and over is bad height.
Fitness says on 2/Jul/15
Hello Rob. How tall is tallest guy in the picture if the other two claim 5'7ish? Click Here
[Editor Rob: maybe 5ft 9.5]
182cm says on 2/Jul/15
@celebheights 187cm
Im almost now certain 176-178cm is the young guys average with 177cm almost exact.if you include evryone it will be 175-176 average dead on. Walking around in crowds is when ive seen a few 6ft3-4 guys but not alot but 6ft5-6 and above is rare and a very humbling feeling to people who like their height. Id say though your height is not very tall in a crowd just very solid tall. i dont think ive seen a girl 6ft2-3 or more in my life.

@182cm
Maybe your university is like that but averge height is not gonna vary in demgraphics in western countries by more than acm.why the food is almost the same for everyone. If it was a develoing country maybe but no eay in a western country for reference check the Netherlands demography difference between the majoriry middle class and upper class.from what ive seen 177cm at night is the bang on average for toung guys you could put 176-178cm bang on average which is exactly what the uk and statustics usa has it and I believe it to be right. until they change it its defo not changed i mean thia are medical experts and im sure they know best. Thats why if you search stats nerthelands they have their average at 181cm for the overall population. And its whats green on wikepedia so as the 177cm im the u.k. 178cm at night is where it really starts 8/10 as your solid average and plus women think your 6ft so theres that.
Emil 182-183 cm says on 2/Jul/15
It's quite amazing how much a few centimeter can affect how tall you feel. I remember being 5'10 and I felt shortish quite a lot. However, I feel more tallish now. At University I feel a little above average but not with my best student bud he's 6'8 lol. We've had many jokes about our height difference.
Demystified says on 2/Jul/15
I have read that in Northern European countries like Denmark and Norway, average is 1 cm above 5''11" almost. So to be above average in the western world completely one would have to be at least 6'0". Of course, overall average is closer to 5'9" in the USA for men of all ages and ethnicities. It just depends on your reference point.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover says on 2/Jul/15
I really don't think the heights just below 7ft (i.e 6ft8-6ft11) are as problematic as people let on. In fact they probably come in handy.
RobV says on 2/Jul/15
@grizz. The idea that you look 'weird' at 6'6" is simply incorrect (unless you have two heads or a blue face). I hit 6'6" with my lifts/elevators and all I ever get is an incredibly positive response to my height. I simply would not do it to look 'weird'.

I grant you the point that it is very tall people who are most impressed (i get most 'wow, how tall are you, amazing?'type responses from guys who are 6'2" or over, which bears out one of your points).

Things that are above average or in the top 1% are not weird, whether it is in looks, athletic ability, earnings or whatever. Lots of people claim to want to be average and not stand out. But interestingly, these are often the very people who actually are envious of those who do, and whose actions and language give that impression. The use of emotive words about such things give the wrong impression, and are not borne out by the experience of those who look 6'6". I am in the lucky position of being able to be both 6'2.5" (real) and 6'6" (with help). I choose the taller every time because of the response and feel 'weird' being 6'2.5" !!
FiveNine says on 2/Jul/15
@tom james
I agree all the way on your 5'9 coverage along with the other heights you listed.
I remember in the 10th grade of high school...5'9 was nowhere short.
Nice chart you created
FiveNine says on 2/Jul/15
@tom james
I agree all the way on your 5'9 coverage along with the other heights you listed.
I remember in the 10th grade of high school...5'9 was nowhere short.
Nice chart you created
182 cm evening height says on 1/Jul/15
@tom james

I can't say I agree, but then it does depend on which country you live in and which region of that country.

5 ft 9 would be average for men 16+ but, in the 'young' (like 20-40) age group in London overall, I'd say that 5 ft 10 is where you can call someone strong average but, in predominantly immigrant areas, you'd probably feel tall at 5 ft 10.



Specifically in the uni crowd (at least the uni I go to):

~5 ft 10.5 seems to be average. 5 ft 9 plus thick-heeled boots can cut it but it's only at my height where I think you'd start to feel that you're actually taller than most of your male peers.

5 ft 10 is defo not perfect in my books. I'd be ever so slightly below average amongst English/European students, although maybe not so much East Asians.

5 ft 11 is a solid height. Above average and can accentuate a physique.

6 ft flat is the start of good heights and can blend into crowds well. Not really a standout height but it's very rarely going to let you down, so to speak.

6 ft 1 is the start of 'very good' as you're comfortably taller than like 80% of your male peers.

6 ft 2 is my one of my perfect heights. Taller than ~90% of young guys and an even higher percentage of girls (even those in big heels) but not a giant.

6 ft 3 is my other perfect height. Whether you prefer this or 6 ft 2 really depends on the heights of your friends and people you interact with and how much you want to stand out.

Any higher depends on the crowd you run with. My mates are in the 5 ft 10 to 6 ft 1 range and I'm happy at nearly 6 ft but someone whose mates are all over 6 ft (definitely not as rare as you might think) may not be content at 6 ft.
Celebheights 6'1.75"/187 CM says on 1/Jul/15
For 187 CM/6'1.5"/6'1.75"

In professional sports (besides soccer):
NFL-Low average.
Basketball-Shortish
NHL-Above average.
MLB-Average.
Tennis-Average.
Others-Average.
In soccer: Solid Tall.
In an airport: Solid tall, but it would also depend on the airport.
In the celebrity world (acting/singing): Strong tall.
Average crowd/city: Very tall.
For a politician: Weak tall.
At your average job: Very tall.
At the average event: Very tall.
Celebheights 6'1.75"/187 CM says on 1/Jul/15
To mention where the height of 5'7" stands in the USA:

Professional sports (besides soccer): You'd be extremely short.
Soccer: You would be short, but not to where people will randomly comment.
If you're a celebrity (music/acting): You would be below average, but not actually short.
In an airport: Short, but barely.
In the average crowd (on the street or in a mall): Below average, but not probably not short.
If you're a politician: You would be really short, but that's because of the fact that most are between 5'9" and 6'1". It's not due to the fact that they are all like 6'5"+ or something.
At a job: You would likely be bordering below average rather than short.
At events: Shortish, but not short.
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 1/Jul/15
@Tom James I don't know if I would go as far as referring to 5'9.75" as being tall, even though it is fractionally above average. In my college (which is full of white males who are between 18-25), if one is 5'11", they would be considered tall (unless you're on the basketball team), so I'm becoming convinced that it's actually tall. One that I would add is '187 CM'. At this height, I've been feeling really tall (ever since I've figured out how perspective works). My height can get brought up in random conversations as well (by almost everybody who I speak with daily).
184.3cm (Night) says on 1/Jul/15
@Tom96

A 180cm man (Barefeet) will feel average here even with the younger crowd. I think the average is somewhere in the 5'11 range as most guys eyelevel is around the end of my nose.
However there are alot of 190+ guys here, we have a large population, small land mass so you will see these guys often.
tom james says on 1/Jul/15
This is my general night time listing for my observations in the UK some might suprise you, I am 180cm (legit night time by the way). Comment guys if you agree.disagree.

Men

5'3 (159cm) - Very short
5'4 (162cm) - Very short
5'5 (165cm) - Very (but less short) still noticeable
5'6 - (168cm) Short but you will be taller than most women comfortably as you will be 5'6.5 (168.9cm) roughly in the daytime maybe just shy of 5'7 in the morning

5'7 (170.18cm) - now in my opinion this is wear regular size starts. STILL SHORT but in my opinion the lowest form of average. In crowds it won't be the most eye catching thing about you.

5'7.5 (172cm) - Almost definitely a 5'7.75-5'8 in the morning, therefore touching average territory but JUST. You can if 5'7.75 in the afternoon perhaps pull off a weak average, people won't be drawn to your height at all, MAYBE if the conversation comes up. MANY people this height will claim 5'9-5'10, and girls will believe it.

5'8 (172.8cm) - A weak average, pretty much the same as 5'7.5. Althought slightly below the BANG on average, RARELY you'll be drawn up on it, especially with high boots. You can claim 5'9 or 5'10 and think most wouldn't batter than an eye lid.

5'8.5 (174cm) - Taking small people (5'6 and below) and TALL TALL people (5'11.75) this in my opinion is bang on average. At this height you will wake up roughly at 175.5cm and could claim 5'10 with boots on and no one (hardly) would admit any different. This is the average height, unknown to most people, if you are legit this height at night.

5'9 (175.29cm) - This is an Average height, strong and at this height you will never look short. Women will believe you are at LEAST 5'10, I mean at LEAST. When I was this height I got the 'just under Six foot comments. At this height, I believed I was 5'11 until I got measured, just because of comments. I at this height felt taller than ALL short people, tall for my age at height school 16+ (or at least tallish).

5'9.75 (177.17cm) - This in my opinon, and feel free due to media perception to disagree, is the very lowest form of tall. At this height, I could hold myself well against 5'11 men. I KNEW I was above the adult 50th percentile. At this height you will wakeup at roughly 178.5cm (that's 5'10). I remember people saying at this height are you 6'0, and I was 5'9!

5'10 (just above 178cm) - This height will although not be a giant, is perfect. You are taller than more than 50% of men, of all ethnicites (less so than white/black), and taller than 90% of women (roughly). A women taller than you becomes a rarerity (although it was beforehand anyway). In shoes in the morning you can could enter 181cm territory and this is tall. A very good 8/10 height. Also modelling becomes possible at this height.

5'10.9 (180.1cm) - You will wakeup at around 181.5cm and that is a tall height. You will NEVER be called short, that is a thing of the past. You are taller than 50th percentile. This is pretty much my height. You realize that the 5'10 average claims in the US are pretty much false. You rarely see a women taller, and in shoes you can reach around 183cm (6'0). If you were to say you were 6'0 no one and I mean hardly ANYONE would call you short.

5'11 (180.34cm) - Pretty much above. This is a perfect, tall height, you can never look short. Even in a picture of 6'2+ people, people can you tell you're NOT short. 9/10 height.

5'11.75 (182.25cm) - Excellent height. You are tall at this height. MOST people will say your 6'1 or in rare cases 6'2. You wakeup at 184cm or so and that is golden territory. No one call say this isn't tall. Tell 100 people your 6'0 and ONLY ROB WILL PICK YOU UP ON IT!!

6'0 (182.88cm) - This is an excellent height. You will be constantly telling people your not 6'2 and girls your not 6'3. You will never have a problem.

6'1 (185.42cm) - This is my height in big shoes. And I rarely see someone taller. Around 8/9 out 10 are shorter. I wish I was this height barefeet at night.

6'2 (188cm) - If you going to be this tall tall, this is the height you want to be. In my opinion, the height before minor problems can occur. Taller than 95% of men, and 95% of women in heels, BAREFOOT. A 5'10 girl in 6 inch heels will gain about 4-5 inches, and thats around your height BAREFOOT. This is an excellent height.

FEEL FREE TO AGREE OR DISAGREE, these are my observations

182cm in the morning (5'11.5)
181cm in the afternoon (5'11)
180cm in the evening (5'10.75)
grizz says on 30/Jun/15
@RobV,at 6ft6 you will always look weird next to general population. A colleague of mine,close enough to 6'6, has that slim,yet athletic build you're talking about. Looking only him it's ok,but when surrounded by us guys 6'-6'3 (not to mention girls), we all look like children next to him.
grizz says on 30/Jun/15
@what claim,IMO your absolute lowest should be no more than 5mm shorter than claimed height. So,in your case, 182.4 cm is the minimum to claim "6ft"(it starts from 182.88cm). From 5mm to 10 mm below mark (181.88 cm) I find that to be "weak 6ft".
Alternatively, one commenter gave an excellent formula to establish your height: out-of-bed height*0.25 + absolute-lowest height*0.75
totigno says on 30/Jun/15
@ french guy

i have a female friend who lives in picardie i should ask her if people there are so much taller than others regions that even when you are a bit over 180 cm you can feel not solid average or tallish
Demystified says on 30/Jun/15
@French guy. I know what you mean. I believe the average is close to 178-180 cm in wealthy areas in the United States. But the thing is that Mexicans and Chinese people average just about 171 cm so I don't want to be like 190 cm and look out of proportion to them. 182-184 cm is perhaps the maximum I would wish to be taking into account men of all ethnicities. As I have mentioned before, the world is getting to be more and more of a melting pot. You cannot just make judgments based on white European males. That's a narrow way to look at things. Yes, if I were only comparing to white men then I'd like to be 188-189 cm. But that's just not a good fit around Hispanics and Asians.
WishIWasTaller says on 30/Jun/15
Hey Rob.
How tall is a guy if his eye level is 5'7.5 or a little higher?
[Editor Rob: most likely in 6ft-6ft 0.5 range]
Tom96 says on 30/Jun/15
Would a 180cm man be considered at least average everywhere in the world, or would people in the Netherlands consider him to be short ?
184.3cm (Night) says on 30/Jun/15
@Grizz

Yeah i am a manaverage as well here in the Netherlands. Except change 6'2 with 6'4 +

Then i go on vacation and feel like a tall guy 90 percent of the time.
Narr says on 30/Jun/15
@grizz I know that feel. At least I can feel like a giant when I am in Turkey in two weeks.
RobV says on 30/Jun/15
@ Mid190s. As usual, you are right on the subject - thre really is no such thing as too tall if all the other things are in place - build, health etc. What is odd is the degree to which some who comment say "6'6" is not good because..." (and then cite things which can just as easily apply to shorter people. I myself am no way 'gangly' or whatever, but the comments suggest that all guys that height MUST have that disadvantage, ergo it is not good.

This stands logic and science on its head - there is a simple reality. If you are that kinda height and are well built, it just looks superb. The idea that it cannot be done just because a lot of tall guys are slim is completely wrong. It is the same as suggesting that because so many short guys are overweight that the reverse or mirror problem applies. You do not have to be overweight if you are short - you just have to take a bit of care.

The biggest irony about height is that you do not have to build up like a big muscle guy. A biut of tone on a very tall body, even slim, looks great.
what claim says on 29/Jun/15
How close to a height must you be at your lowest to claim it?

Can a 182.3cm at night claim 6ft? Can a 187.5cm at night claim 6'2? Or is that a "weak"6ft or 6ft2?
Matthew says on 29/Jun/15
GI Jose says on 28/Jun/15
@mike321
I go by my night height because I feel like I'm lying if there's a chance that I may measure under what I say my height is. I haven't measured under 6'0.5" lately, but I get 6'0.75" in the afternoon. I still say 6'0", but I could easily round upward to 6'1" if I wanted to.

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If you're 6'0.75" in the afternoon and say only 6'0" you're rounding down heavily. I'd probably claim 6'1" as that is mathematically closer or "almost 6'1" is something I'd likely describe myself as if I were you, but you're entitled to claim whatever you like obviously.
french guy says on 29/Jun/15
@grizz

When you're average you feels tall as often as short
I think 188 cm would cut this feeling, maybe 185 cm
NBAer says on 29/Jun/15
mike321 says on 28/Jun/15
Is everyone going by their night height? I would think personally that afternoon height is the most realsiitc repensentation of your true height as it's in the middle of morning and night.
Mike,the difference between afternoon and evening height is alot smaller in most cases than the morning-to-night height shrinkage.You could potentially lose 0.5cm MAX from afternoon to evening,but then again you could go down a full inch from morning to evening,or even more,depending how tall you are or how long your spine is.I always go with my evening height,which is usually a little over 179cm ,so i would generally claim 179 as my height,although i have also claimed 178 and 180
french guy says on 29/Jun/15
@demystified

you should go on limblenghtening forum, you will find the answers you're looking for, imo there are some very good doctors in russia and india who are used to performing it.There is also Mitkovic in Serbia.However, it's hard to get a russian visa, you need one if you want to go to russia.
I think you live in the Us, i live in north France.Unless you live in the west coast, i doubt the average is 5'8".
In europe the average is much higher than 5'8"
GI Jose says on 28/Jun/15
@mike321
I go by my night height because I feel like I'm lying if there's a chance that I may measure under what I say my height is. I haven't measured under 6'0.5" lately, but I get 6'0.75" in the afternoon. I still say 6'0", but I could easily round upward to 6'1" if I wanted to.
grizz says on 28/Jun/15
Guys from 5'10 to 6' , ever got that manaverage feeling? I'll copy-paste post from some forum which pretty much resembles my feelings:
"It is the manaverage feel. When you are ~6'0 sometimes you go out and are looking down on everyone. It makes you feel good and somewhat tall. But, other times you go out and the men are all seemingly 6'2+ and the women/girls are impinging on you making you feel like a manlet.
Only manaverages get this feel because on a daily basis manlets never have a chance to feel tall and tall guys never really have the chance to feel small. Us manaverages get the highs and the lows"
Chris says on 28/Jun/15
Does anyone have any ideas on how much taller folks are in richer / wealthier areas? I'm about 5'9.5" and I'm from a wealthy area in California. Even though the US average is about 5'10, my area seems to have a plethora of folks larger than that. I was in public and saw about 8 people my height or shorter, while a whopping 20 were taller! Surely the average can't deviate in wealthy areas up another 2 or 3 inches?
Emil 182-183 cm says on 28/Jun/15
@French guy
Whatever, mate, wish you luck none the less and I sincerely hope you'll be happy .
Demystified says on 28/Jun/15
@French guy. I don't doubt that 6'0" could feel short in some areas. But I wouldn't want to be taller than that due to other problems that I hear of. I hear of health problems that occur when one gets too lanky. Also, it is harder to fit in with the crowd when you want to. I'd just pick a versatile all-round height like 5'11"-6'0". I can still be a little tallish but fit in better with everyone. This is all considering the world average of 5'8". I really wouldn't want to be more than 5 inches taller than the average man. In Germany this wouldn't apply, but Germany isn't the whole world. You'll have to think bigger than Europe.
Rory says on 28/Jun/15
When you pass by the leg lengthening clinic or w.e its called maybe dropping by the mental health clinic wouldn't be a bad idea either.
Demystified says on 28/Jun/15
@French guy. It's possible to get it done over 5'9", sure. Some doctors could believe it's not worth the risk of infection in some cases. Anyways, I may find a doctor who is willing to perform this on me. I don't know about Russia or India. We're just not very familiar with their track record and safety. Are you sure it's okay?
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mike321 says on 28/Jun/15
Is everyone going by their night height? I would think personally that afternoon height is the most realsiitc repensentation of your true height as it's in the middle of morning and night.
french guy says on 27/Jun/15
@emil 183 cm

hum i see, i don't feel so terrible, i sometimes feel tall which gives me confidence, but it's just the fact that i hate feeling short which happens a lot.

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Anyway, height is relative, stating that 6'0"-6'2" is perfect is pointless, since 6'0" can be tall in some places and short in others (where i live for example it's slightly below average)

In my opinio a man has to be 6'1"to feel solid and to have that manly look, in Hamburg it's 185.5 cm, in the netherlands 185 cm or tad more...
Since i'm 182.5 cm i should be 186.5 cm after leg lenghtening which is very solid for a man, but not tall, tall starts at 190-193 cm based on what i see on a daily basis
french guy says on 27/Jun/15
@demystified

seems you consider leg lenghtening or you would like to be taller, but you're wrong when you say orthopedist don't accept someone who is 5'9" or over.Actually there are many guys who are a bit taller than you and who did leg lenghtening.
There is no barrier, no limits, there is someone who was 170 cm and finally reached 188 cm, which is extreme.He did a first surgery and reached 180 cm, and then he did a second and reached 188 cm.I think the guy will never recover his functions and ability.

You don't have to save 100 000 dollars, you can do ll with a cheap doctors, there are a few very good doctors in russia and india who were trained by DR Paley, considered as the best in the world.
James B says on 27/Jun/15
A strong 6'5 man from my 5'7-5'8 perspective can look quite giant like. A legit 6'4 looks exceptionally tall to me.

6'3 stands out as looking tall to me but not doesn't give the same impressive vibe to me that 6'4 or 6'5 guys give.

My perception would be different though if I was the average height for a young man of 5'10. If I was 2 inches taller 6'5 would look not as remarkable
red187.5 says on 27/Jun/15
IMO, regarding the perfect male height and weight;

Chris Hemisworth( in Thor movies) : 10/10
Alexander Ludwig( in Vikings): 10/10
Will Smith( in I am legend): 10/10
Ryan Raynolds( in Blade trinity) : 10/10
Hugh Jackman (in X-men): 10/10

Henry Cavill ( in Man of Steel): 9/10 (little bit short heightwise)
Chris Evans ( in Captain America): 9/10 LSH
Clive Standen ( in Vikings) : 9/10 (little bit skinny bodywise
The Rock (in every movie he is in: 9/10 (too big/ too much muscle)

Robert Pattinson (in Twilight): 8/10(too ****ing skinny and little bit short

Tylor laurent (in Twilight): 7/10 (too short)

RDJ (in Iron Man): 6/10 ( lack muscle definition and too short)

Vince Vaughn (in every movie he is in): 5/10 (too tall and no muscle at all)

As you can see I left the looks of this blokes to the ladies to rate...lol
Thanks.
red187.5 says on 27/Jun/15
Thanks Rob, you are the best. But I already knew that I won't grow any taller naturally because I am 21 now but is there any other way or product that can stretch me just by one inch. I' ve been to America when I was little so it's good to know that my height would be considered tall now.Because here in switherland it ain't feel that tall.
[Editor Rob: some people have claimed to, but I think it is unrealistic to expect anything from doing a program...unless you are coming from having loose/poor muscular sructure. Then it may be worth trying a program to improve posture as it will help you seem taller when others are talking to you.]
Matthew says on 26/Jun/15
RobV says on 20/Jun/15
@ Narr I agree that 6'7" is a good height and it looks amazing if you have a bit of muscle/bulk. I have actually never heard anyone who I know to be in the 2m area say they would rather be shorter. Yes, people can pose anonymously online, pretend they are that height as no-one can verify, and say they hate it. But when you get down to hard facts, as I have seen it with people I deal with, they always prefer to be as tall as poss.

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Look at a guy like Afrojack. He goes around claiming he's 6'9" and sometimes he even says 6'10". The truth is, he's more like 6'7"-ish, possibly a little over and possibly a little under. It's quite obvious when you see him next to other tall people like Calvin Harris (who is a legitimate 6'5.5" - 6'5.75" guy) that he's definitely not anything like 6'9" or 10". Is it likely that he wishes he was shorter? If he's going around adding 2, even 3 inches to his claimed height I think it is not.
Mid190s says on 26/Jun/15
More awesome things about 6'7 than negative.

it's really about health build, apperarence, and mobility. If those attributes are intact really no such thing as too tall.
Demystified says on 26/Jun/15
@Shorty. 5'7", while short in developed nations, is merely 1 inch below average for the world at large. It sounds like you're from the USA where average is at least 5'9" to 5'10" or so. Well, I also live in the states and feel like even with me being 5'8.9-5"9.7" even I can feel shortish in some places. I feel that the average we are comparing to is actually something like 5'9.7"-5"10.5". BUT, compared to the world I definitely feel tall. Meanwhile, you are shortish by both standards. Still, you're right around average or a above average in comparison to many East Asian countries (China, Vietnam, Philippines). So your height is still within a manageable range. You can make several maneuvers and countermeasures to offset the disadvantage like dating smaller women from other countries who largely view 5'7" as average. You're also around 5'8" in shoes or 5'8.5" in big boots, which is a normal height. You're probably thinking this is all bull and that nothing but being at least 6'0" will solve my problems. Here's the thing: The key is to feel good enough that you actually have the motivation to wake up and go to work each day in order to save up for the surgery when you get the money and success. The way you're thinking now is detrimental to this effort. Sometimes you have to shift perspective or lie to yourself in order to increase motivation; you can't live with learned helplessness. It's $40,000-$50,000 if you go somewhere cheap in the states. Start working 3 shifts and you'll have that in a year. I'm also thinking of getting rich and performing this. Actually, you're probably in even better of a position than I am because they usually don't perform this on someone over 5'9".
WishIWasTaller says on 26/Jun/15
Hey Rob.
How tall are these guys if the shortest guy claims 5'8?Click Here
[Editor Rob: 2 guys beside can look near to 5ft 11 and near 6ft 2.5 range.]
Demystified says on 26/Jun/15
@shorty. Actually, women filter out 98% of men under 5''10" on dating websites because men lie up. There are 5''8" and 5'9" men claiming 5'10". They do it as a precaution and to compensate for unknown variables. Kind of like how snipers aim a little before a moving target to make the shot. That being said, Yes, 5'7" really is so short that you can't even lie about it like a 5'8" guy might. At first glance, this is a terrible and inescapable situation. But if you look more closely at why women gravitate towards height, you'll find that it's not really what they are after. Height is a proxy for other traits women are really after such as status and resources. Throughout our evolutionary history height has been positively correlated with wealth and high status. So usually a tall man is a leader in the community, and is good at providing and protecting. Women love alpha leader types who have steady financial resources and fast cars, signaling good genes and ability to provide and outcompete rivals. It just happens that these successful men usually are tall (the taller candidate has won the majority of US presidencies). But, there have been exceptions like Napoleon, who demonstrated these leadership qualities without looking the part and was very popular with the ladies. It's kind of like how a college degree is usually associated with competence on the job and employers usually hire the applicant with higher expertise on paper but at the end of the day it just matters how well of a job you really are performing. You usually need some form of "proof" of good genes to attract the opposite sex, and having the height is like dressing well for the interview and making a good first impression. Yet, later on, women will investigate further to see how much of an alpha male you truly are by observing how much space your body takes up around you, how dominantly your eye contact is, how much yearly income you take in, how other women perceive you, on and on...just like your boss at work evaluates you beyond the interview stage. Steve Jobs, Napoleon, they did not look competent at first glance--one lacked a degree and the other lacked height. Both lacked something apparent at first glance, but proved to be exceptional. Within every system there is a loophole you can exploit. Women exploit men by wearing makeup and looking better than they really are. You can do the same thing by driving a Porsche making over six digits a year. Do what you can to outcompete other men, and they will see the proof. You don't have height so you'll have to make double or triple the money as your neighbor. After you get the money, do the limb lengthening and you'll have the money and the height. It's that simple in outline. What you can start doing is read up on some books Donald trump authors. He's rich and he does well with women. You'll learn a lot.
RobV says on 26/Jun/15
@ MRTBlack. You are right statistically (depending upon where you live) that in countries like the UK, US etc, you will be taller than 19 out of 20 in a room if you are just over 6'2". I am 6'2.5" and wear lifts/elevators because I want to be taller than 99/100 if not more. But I nonetheless do not kid myself in any way that I am 'short' at my natural height. It's just that I know I am tall and want to be taller.

I would not go to the lengths of frenchguy who is talking about having leg lengthening at 6' (183cm), but I know quite a few guys from here who similarly tall and want to be a bit taller.
Demystified says on 26/Jun/15
@Shorty. You are right about limb lengthening surgery, except that it's unsafe to set 4 inches as the goal. Up to 2 inches or 5 cm is considered a safe target. Anything beyond that carries a medium risk. So if you were to take the safe option, the recovery period as well as the bill would be smaller than you imagine. We're looking at a half year of recuperation and perhaps $40,000 ($80,000 max). After that, you just wear shoe inserts to make up the other 2 inches. This could still be too much for you to handle, but I'm merely pointing out that there are flexible ways and compromises to go about this. You can even do 2 cm if you want to save.
ManKo says on 26/Jun/15
Rob, how tall do you think this lady is?

Click Here

The man on the left its suppsoed to be 218cm or 7`2, and the man on the left its supposed to be 210cm or 6`11.

She must be really talk, here is a picture of the 7`2 guy with Lou Ferringo:

Click Here
Emil 182-183 cm says on 25/Jun/15
@french guy
I really don't mean to attack you or anything I just kinda feel bad for you, mate. You must feel terrible and you shouldn't!
182 cm evening height says on 25/Jun/15
@James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius

6 inches from stretching for 90 days if you're under 18? Are you high?
Emil 182-183 cm says on 25/Jun/15
@french guy

I feel just above average. Sometimes I feel tall, few times short, but rarely do I feel very tall or very short.
I feel good about it to be honest, and you should too man. Think about the possible consequences of your surgery surgery... Could harm more than it does good.
red187.5 says on 25/Jun/15
rob, how tall do you think I am if my lowest/ night height is 186.5 cm and my morning is 188.5? BTW I am from east africa and I was considered as a very tall guy in my country. but in western countries I don't feel tht tall . And guys I met from western europe are some of the tallest next to southern sudanese. I think the best height for male is 187-189cm and for female 170-175cm. back in highschool and college I used to slouch and measured @ 184.5 barefoot then after a while I become very aware of the effect of man's height and start correcting my posture and workout.
In highschool I used to play basketball and got many attentions from girls. I noticed that my height really helped me in getting many chicks because I am kinda shy but still many would not reject me when I introduce myself to them in the lamest way possible. That's why I want to add an inch so that I can be 189 @ my lowest. Is it possible? sorry for my poor english btw.
[Editor Rob: it seems you improved your posture and measured taller, but if you were aged 18 I'd say the chances of more growth will be much less. You already seem 6ft 1.5 range, which is quite a tall height even in America!]
Rifle says on 25/Jun/15
Rob,
How tall do you think this lady is? The boots are apparently giving are 3.5-4 cm.

Click Here
[Editor Rob: the women does look to have a very tall height, I wouldn't be surprised if around 6ft 5]
Keltoi says on 25/Jun/15
@P173.5 That's more than decent enough. Pretty much the same as me. I'd consider it medium height. With good posture, you'll be noticeably taller than 170cm people, which I consider to be the grey zone between short and average.
Daprez says on 25/Jun/15
@ P173.5

It's a fairly decent height for sure though it depends on where you live. It is close to a medium height in most European countries. However, you would be considered short in places like Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina and the Netherlands. To sum up, it's fine and you should be taller than a large chunk of women.
MrTBlack says on 25/Jun/15
Rob,

I see a lot of comments down below saying that " 6'1" and 6'0" isn't that tall" but I'm a hair over 6'2" (depending on time of day) and at social events and public places I'm the tallest 9.5/10 times. Is this unusual for someone who is around 6'1" or 6'2"?
[Editor Rob: not really, a good 9 out of 10 men will be smaller than you easily. And nearly every women would be smaller.]
P173.5 says on 25/Jun/15
I'm 173.5cm. With my Nike air pegasus 83s on I'm 177cm. Not sure if that's a fairly decent height or could it be considered short.
Shorty says on 24/Jun/15
Thank you to the person who explained how short guys like me actually do contribute to the gene pool (it was interesting...). But I still hate being short. If there had been leg-lengthening surgery when I was younger, I would have done it FOR SURE. Now, though, I can't because I can't take months off of work to recover in a wheelchair, and I also 't relocate to Baltimore (where I think the only one in the U.S. is). If any of you ever read up on it, it looks to me like you have to basically give up two years of your life...and pay a small fortune. Again, if I was 20 again, I'd work for a few years to save enough, then I'd check out for two years while it was done. But I just can't now. It's absolutely heartbreaking, since I'd give up five years of my life, not to mention two, in order to be four inches taller (the max that's safe, apparently). But it's just not possible, with the adult responsibilities that I now have...
french guy says on 24/Jun/15
@emil

yes, i know...
we both the same height, and i remembe you live in denmark, how do you feel there,
Demystified says on 23/Jun/15
From Wikipedia article on Human Height, "Worldwide average adult human height is 173 cm (5 ft 8 in) for males and 160 cm (5 ft 3 in) for females." Many of the responses posted on this website caters to the northern European standard for height, where average is 2-3 inches higher than the real average. Since people are traveling more frequently and cities are becoming more cosmopolitan, the 5'10" average no longer holds that much weight. I reckon in New York, 5'10" can feel tallish in Chinatown.
qartt says on 23/Jun/15
Crypto139 there is a national health survey for the uk from 1983-2012, which includes average male and female height. The last men under 35 were under 176 was 2000, it was 175.9. The average for under 40 men is 177-178 or 5'9 3/4 to 5/10. There has been the odd year where 5'10 has been reached, overall it has been 177.3 for 20 years. Men born 1958-1968 in the Uk average 176.5 cm, those born after 1968 average 177.3, those born before 1948-1958 averaged 175.5.

Women average 163, except those under 24 average 163.8. So the girls take the height increase award. Older women pre 1958 were 162 at their peak, which is 5'4, youngsters 5'4 1/2.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 23/Jun/15
@manuel stretching does make you grow taller but it's only effective if
your if your growth plates are open like if your 18 and under if your if
over 25 your growth plates are closed that means it would be very difficult
too gain any height if your 18 and under you can 6 inches from stretching
in 90 days since your 25 it would be very hard too gain anything noticeable
the most you can gain from stretching is 1 inch and 2 inches.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 23/Jun/15
Rob is it possible for males too grow 12 inches at 17 like go from 5ft 3in
too 6ft 3in Kevin Costner grew 11 inches at 17 he went from 5ft 2in to
6ft 1in he was a late bloomer is it possible for late bloomers who are 17 too grow too 11 inches and 12 inches when they hit puberty.
[Editor Rob: there will be rare cases of large spurts at 17-18 like 8-10 inches, but for every person you know like that there will be hundreds who don't.]
Emil 182-183 cm says on 23/Jun/15
@french guy
182 cm is a very good height. It's average in the Netherlands, and just below average in the Dinaric Alps (which is a small area).
You seem complexed beyond measure. I know guys who'd kill to be your height
Amaze says on 23/Jun/15
Sorry 6'4 is very tall. UK and us 6/7 inches above average height. 6'3 is even but if you don't agree 6'4 100% is very tall facts. 6'4 is not near very tall or any that bs its confirmed legit fact 6'4 is very tall.
Sam says on 23/Jun/15
I'd say 6ft1 - 6ft2 is solid-tall range, 6 flat is weak-tall/above average, and 6ft4+ is very tall, even though at 6ft3 you can stand out still, but I think it comes up just a little shy of the "very tall" range IMO.
Demystified says on 23/Jun/15
I did some research on limb lengthening surgery. Many of the experienced doctors in the west warn about the dangers of committing to financial savings via getting the surgery done in Russia, India. After browsing through an Indian leg lengthening site, they say they're thoroughly experienced. You don't quite know if they are being honest. So if someone was to get this done, would you spend $80,000 in the USA or $4,000 in India?
Daprez says on 22/Jun/15
@Iillo Thomas

That makes more sense so 5ft 3 for example would very short and 6ft 5 would very tall. I'm sure most people would agree with this. Both these heights are 7 inches away from average which is even clear to someone who has blurry vision.
NBAer says on 22/Jun/15
Rob how do you really feel at 5'8?I mean do you feel short,average,weak average?Because i sometimes feel short at 5'10.5,even though im taller than most people i see on a daily basis...but
whenever i see someone 6'1 or taller, i always get the "im short" feeling.So how do you generally feel at 5'8?
[Editor Rob: 5ft 8 feels pretty much a bit under average from the years of just casual observation of male height in public. Depending on situations, 5ft 8 could feel very short or even tall.
]
Amaze says on 22/Jun/15
@Lillo Thomas true 6'3 maybe very tall irl its certainly very tall or near it but imo it is in basketball there's a lot of 6'5-6'6 guys. To be a point guard you need to be 6'2 or over. The best basketball players in my hs are 6'2,6'3 though. They do better than the 6'5/6 guys.

I agree yes. 6'6/7 is definitely too tall in real life. 6'5 is Max but its pushing it. 6'2/6'3/6'4 is gold if you like being tall a d standing out. 6'0/6'1 are best for comfort and being tall and not standing out that much.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 22/Jun/15
Hey Rob is it possible for women hit puberty very late like at 16 and 17 that
would be the eqavilent the for men too hit puberty at 18 and 19 sam bailey
said on loose women she didn't hit puberty until she was 16 17 that is very
rare for a female how is it possible it's common for women hit puberty very early but
rare for women too hit puberty very late it's common for men too hit
puberty very late but very rare for men too hit puberty very early does
that mean people born in the 1970s hit puberty very late what causes very
early puberty and very late puberty for both men and women.
[Editor Rob: there will be some girls who do gain noticeable large amounts later, like some boys do. I can't think of the name, but one american actress on here said at 17 she grew like 6 inches.]
WishIWasTaller says on 21/Jun/15
@MusaTroll
Yes that's a great height I would love to be that tall.
Crypto139 says on 21/Jun/15
5 feet 3.5 seems to be quite low compared to many European countries Rob. Is it just me or are female heights in the Us and UK seem a lot lower than other countries like Germany. Though the male heights are not to different. I found that 5 feet 9 is average for UK male, 5 feet 9.5 average for US male, and 5 feet 10ish for a German male. Yet the female heights are more 5 feet 3.5 for UK female, 5 feet 4 for US, And over 5 feet 5 for a German female. Actually the average young female in munich Germany is actually 5 feet 7. Just wow. Also the avergage male there is 5 feet 11.5. Strangely a guy that lives there claimed 180 is About average and that my mom at 168 is about slightly above the average. I am not sure if I can trust the chart on Germany's city. I can't seem the average young female being nearly eye to eye with me.
Aaron183cm says on 21/Jun/15
@MusaTroll.

Speaking as a 183cm guy it's a solid 8/10 height (184cm is obviously a little better). My height is great because I never feel short, and I know that 6-footers rarely (if ever) get discriminated against for their height. At the same time I wish I was a little bit taller, because there are a lot of guys that hover around 6'. 183-184cm is only scraping the tall category.

On a slightly different note. I take back what I said about 6'1" being the perfect height. I now believe 6'2" to be slightly better. 6'1" is a 9/10 height and 6'2" is 10/10.
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 21/Jun/15
Anybody who claims that 187 CM is weak tall, tallish or just above average really should see how tall an actual 187 CM person is. Whenever I see somebody who ties with me, it's very clear to everybody that they are very tall (even the people who are 6'3"-6'7" that I've spoken with have recognized that it's very tall. In the average American crowd, it would either be the tallest, or there would be somebody who is 6'3"-6'4" on occasion (rarely 6'5"-6'6"), and none of those heights tower over somebody who is 187 CM. It's definitely the 95th-96th percentile/strong tall.

Some examples of people who are this height:

1. Novak Djokovic
2. Gerard Butler
3. Jason Lee (he appeared to be this height in person)
4. Will Smith (we were the same in person)
5. Rodrigo Santoro (after taking a second look at photos, he edges out Jim Carrey by .25", and Jim is 6'1.25"-6'1.5" in person).
6. Maria Sharapova (she recently appeared to be that height in person)
7. Tom Hiddleston (he's not the full 6'2")
8. Adrian Peterson
9. Jay-Z
10. Jim Carrey (could be a weak 187 CM, or a strong 186 CM based off of what I saw in person).
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 21/Jun/15
Hey Rob is It possible for men to grow taller after 25 and after 30.
[Editor Rob: a rare genetic condition can allow it - whereby estrogen levels mean the growth plates don't fuse fully till 30's. A kind of delayed fusion.
]
Iillo Thomas says on 21/Jun/15
Daprez you are right. I make a mistake posting 5'5 is very short. 5'5 is short but very short is less than 5'4. Amaze 6'3 or 190 cm is quite short for a basketball player. 6'5 and 6'6 are great basketball heights. Infact 6'6 is the perfect basketball height , 6'7 is also a very good basketball height. But both heights ( 6'6 and 6'7) are too tall in real life. Being 6'6 tall without using this height for sports is pointless. Too tall.
Iillo Thomas says on 21/Jun/15
Daprez you are right. I make a mistake posting 5'5 is very short. 5'5 is short but very short is less than 5'4. Amaze 6'3 or 190 cm is quite short for a basketball player. 6'5 and 6'6 are great basketball heights. Infact 6'6 is the perfect basketball height , 6'7 is also a very good basketball height. But both heights ( 6'6 and 6'7) are too tall in real life. Being 6'6 tall without using this height for sports is pointless. Too tall.
Narr says on 21/Jun/15
@MusaTroll If you don't live in the Netherlands, yeah.
sam says on 21/Jun/15
hey rob i noticed that some celebrities are listed as 5"11.5 and others as 5"11.75 yet they both equate to same height in cms (182). wouldn't there be a difference?
[Editor Rob: With 5ft 11.5 it's 181.6 and 11.75 182.24, so you could round down or round up...or always round to the nearest cm, it's what I do.]
Amaze says on 21/Jun/15
@grizz I agree.

@RobV facts 6'7 is too tall for real life.
Too tall for most girls
Too tall for clothing
Cars
Comfort
Look freakishly tall, because you are
6'4 is human limit, 6'5 pushing it being Max actual OK height. 6'6/6'7 is too bad, too big, even 6'5 users here have said.

Being a bouncer at 6'2 is fine, I live near a popular nightclub faces in Essex(popular in london) bouncer was 6'4 and that was ideal. Any taller and its unnecessary.

I don't get you people even John here who was 6'7 prefers to be shorter... Plus the back problems

Face it, 6'7 is too tall for real life, 6'6/6'7 may be great basketball heights but for real life, it is not ideal

Real life, 6'0-6'3(183-191) is ideal. 6'4 is good too, 6'5 is max.


@MusaTroll very good height barefoot. Low tall and no comfort issues. Not too far off perfect. Ideal 3rd best size imo it is.
185-187 is second best and 188(6'2) is first
Bryan (Queenslander) says on 21/Jun/15
@Kourosh

Do you actually feel shorter than people who are exactly the same height as you?
Josh says on 21/Jun/15
I would say:
(I go with low heights)

164 cm and under = very short
165 cm - 170 cm = short
171 cm - 175 cm = shortish
176 cm - 180 cm = average range
181 cm - 184 cm = tallish
185 cm - 190 cm = tall
191 cm and up = very tall
182 cm evening height says on 21/Jun/15
@Kourosh

Eye level is not a good indicator as you can have low-set eyes and the person you're talking to can have high-set eyes.

At 176cm, you're probably shorter than ~6 out of 10 young guys, assuming your country's average for young men is 5 ft 10 (where are you from?).

Try and pay more attention to the footwear that people from my generation wear and also factor in the fact that some (more than the older generation, IMO) may be wearing lifts.

Regarding being unhappy with your height:

You're not really short enough to bother with leg lengthening. In fact, a huge chunk of the guys who get leg lengthening have your height as their goal.

Having considered that, given that you can't change your height beyond wearing lifts/elevators, just accept it. No point being angry at your parents when they are a blatant example of how being low average height won't stop you from having a family or job or whatever.

Furthermore, if you're living in a developed country with easy access to education, food, water and housing, you've already won the genetic lottery (by having parents from a rich country) and are ahead of most of the world in terms of luck. We always focus on people who have it better than us rather than being thankful for what we have, which is why you'll see delusional 6 ft 2 guys who think they'd be so much better off at 6 ft 4, and this is something you have to be better than if you ever want to be happy.
french guy says on 21/Jun/15
i remember that 5 years ago, i wanted to do leg lenghtening, i was 18 years old, my growth was finished.
Considering the fact that i had to focuse on my studies and because i was told that this surgery was too dangerous and it s not worth the risk for someone who is 182.5 cm at his lowest, i decided to drop this idea, despite the fact that i'm short for a white young man.
But four years later, so one year ago, i registered on a forum dedicated to ll, it just made me realize that thousands of people were doing this surgery .The majority recover well, cases of patient who lost a leg or can't walk anymore are very rare .The majority resume
So i have the opportunity to be atleast 185 cm, which is atleast decent for me as it's at worst average anywhere in Europe, expect maybe in the dinaric alps.
french guy says on 21/Jun/15
i will consult an orthopedist this summer, i think i will do leg lenghtening next year :/
Laf says on 21/Jun/15
@Demystified: I agree with you that most developed countries average with a good 5'10 as average, with some of the small scandinavian countries and netherlands with 5'11ish as average. But sometimes the statistics come from self-reported datas, which is useless. And even if the datas are measured, we can't always trust the imprecise measurements doctors make.
MusaTroll says on 21/Jun/15
is 183-184 cm barefoot a good height.
grizz says on 21/Jun/15
@mike,kudos for you if you can feel that 1inch difference.
6ft2 is more than perfect for UK,it's 4in above average.
I might understand your need to gain that 1in if you live in the Netherlands (where 6ft is average), but it becomes redundant for UK.
NBAer says on 20/Jun/15
Rob do you agree that it's difficult to guess someone's height from a distance,even just a few metres away,if you don't stand next to them to have a more accurate idea,cause i assume you guess celebrities heights of what you think they look next to you,right?I mean,noone can actually guess someone's height to the last mm,for example my usual evening low is 179.3-179.4 cm,but noone would ever guess me that exact range...more like 179-181 would be a bet,since i'm always between this range,and out of bed i can be a few mm above 181 after a 8-9 sleep i think.And from what i've noticed,from my perspective,most people looks 2 inches taller from a distance,rather than up close.I don't know,maybe it's proportions,maybe it's uneven ground,maybe is it eye perception...In any case,do you agree that you can't easily estimate someone's height if you're not next to them?Thanks
[Editor Rob: in that video 'how to guess height', it's something I try to do is get ideas of heights up close and far away.

you are better estimating within 1-5 feet. Further away and it can sometimes make it harder.

A 6ft 1 guy 10 feet away from me is a different perspective than 2 feet away...]
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 20/Jun/15
Hey Rob is It possible for men to grow taller after 25 and after 30 i am talking about like a growth spurt of 3 inches after 25 and a growth spurt of 5 inches after 30.
Kourosh says on 20/Jun/15
@182 cm evening height

i dont know but i find it difficult to talk and look at someone's eye without looking up slightly.

i find myself shorter than majority of people specially young people like 8 out of 10. Sometimes i think maybe im not as tall as i think i am or maybe im 5'7 or 5'6 because how sometimes i feel so short. but my absolute low height which i measured at 3 am was a hair below 176cm. so this is my case and i'm so unhappy with my height and i blame my parents for it.
Amaze says on 20/Jun/15
Remember tall guy issues

188cm is fine..

190 if basketball player

187-188 fine for real life
RobV says on 20/Jun/15
@ Narr I agree that 6'7" is a good height and it looks amazing if you have a bit of muscle/bulk. I have actually never heard anyone who I know to be in the 2m area say they would rather be shorter. Yes, people can pose anonymously online, pretend they are that height as no-one can verify, and say they hate it. But when you get down to hard facts, as I have seen it with people I deal with, they always prefer to be as tall as poss.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover says on 20/Jun/15
I genuinely think anywhere between 5ft8-5ft10 is solid male average.
It's all about how often you see guys in that range on a daily basis.
Amaze says on 20/Jun/15
@Jah I agree with most of it. Good list to me.
182 cm evening height says on 19/Jun/15
@Kourosh

176cm is like 2cm below average for a young man.

Assuming you're in the UK/US, with good posture and boots, you should feel tall as often as you feel short ie. average.
Aaron183cm says on 19/Jun/15
@Jah

That chart is spot on.
Daprez says on 19/Jun/15
@remour

Average height world wide is more like 5ft 6 tops for all ages. in places like the Philippines, India, Vietnam the average height is somewhere between 5ft 3 - 5ft 5 for men so 5ft 8 is tallish worldwide.

5ft 9 to 5ft 11 you are tall worldwide.

6ft would be the start of very tall up to 6ft 2 worldwide.

6ft 3-6ft 5 is extreme tall and 6ft 6 and above would be the start of giant world wide.
manuel says on 19/Jun/15
Hi everyone, i am 25 years old and I am 183cm.
I have watching videos on youtube n searching on google if there is any chance that I can become 187cm to 188cm (natural way-no pills etc.)
manuel says on 19/Jun/15
Hi everyone, i am 25 years old and I am 183cm.
I have watching videos on youtube n searching on google if there is any chance that I can become 187cm to 188cm (natural way-no pills etc.)
Daprez says on 19/Jun/15
@Lillo Thomas

You are quite inconsistent with heights. You say 6ft 3 is not very tall since it's only 5 inches above average, but then you say 5ft 5 is very short when it is only 5 inches below average.
mike321 says on 19/Jun/15
Jah's idea.


very short = 163cm

short = 168cm

weak short = 173cm

normal = 178cm

weak tall = 183cm

tall = 188cm (perfect, dream, ideal, desire, hope, fantasy)

very tall = 193cm



Do you agree?발음듣기


DO YOU AGREE?

Not in the western world. 188cm is just a little bit too short to be 'perfect'. At least here in the UK i would say that the absolute perfect height would be 190cm at night. I am 188cm at night at would love to hit the 6'3 mark. 6'3 is the most ideal height imo.
WishIWasTaller says on 18/Jun/15
@French guy
In my opinion if a person feels short at 182-183 then either they live among very tall people or they aren't that tall, if you are those heights than I would bet you're taller noticeable than a large percentage of people you encounter on a daily basis.
Amaze says on 18/Jun/15
@Narr you are nuts lol 6ft7 is extreme, not a good height at all. Even 6'7 people here have preferred to be shorter. A 6'7 guy said he'd rather be 5'8 over 6'7. He wishes he wa s 6'3 instead. Don't be crazy.
6'7 is extreme tall. Lol even 6'5 is pushing it, 6'6 has pushed it and 6'7 has way too much
Demystified says on 18/Jun/15
I wonder how many of you really read up on statistics. The fact is that 182 cm is slightly tall. In Denmark and Norway, average tends to be 180-181 cm. In Austria, average is 179 cm. In Sweden it's around 180 cm. Even in these rich developed Western European nations, you're consistently above average. You're almost an inch above. And honestly, most developed nations average 178-179 cm. Much of the world averages from 164-176 cm. So 176 cm is already tall in cosmopolitan melting pots. 182 cm is above all this. Most of the pivot points are from 170-178 cm. Above 179 cm is at least average, conclusively.
Jah says on 18/Jun/15
Jah's idea.


very short = 163cm

short = 168cm

weak short = 173cm

normal = 178cm

weak tall = 183cm

tall = 188cm (perfect, dream, ideal, desire, hope, fantasy)

very tall = 193cm



Do you agree?발음듣기


DO YOU AGREE?
Kourosh says on 18/Jun/15
at 182 cm you should not feel short. Me being 176 cm i have every right to feel short and be unhappy with my height.

i only feel tall among the old people but not all the times but quiet often i feel solid tall (5'10 with shoes on). But among the young generation or 18-30 i feel below average weak average or short not all the times but quiet often.
remour says on 18/Jun/15
worldwide height chart
[for a girls]
4ft9 very short
5ft0 short
5ft3 average for world girls
5ft6 tall
5ft9+ very tall

[for a mens]
5ft2 very short
5ft5 short
5ft8 average for world mens
5ft11 tall
6ft2+ very tall

masses stereotypes
worldwide chart+2inch(maybe +3inch) lol
Demystified says on 17/Jun/15
I want to take a moment to talk about the mix that grow taller 4 idiots instructs you to make and drink. It claims it can induce HGH levels 300% to contribute towards a 2-6 inch increase in stature. Well, I have tried taking Serovital HGH (Growth factor-9) which claims based on actual studies a 682% increase in blood serum hormone when I was 22. My sex drive went through the roof and I was feeling a sense of renewed energy. However, I only grew about half an inch (which I measured precisely and constantly) and it is unknown whether it was the result of the supplement or whether I naturally would have grown that much. My impression is that supplements work all that much after puberty.

I recall the concoction in grow taller 4 idiots require you to gather a tremendous amount of beans from within broad beans or fava beans which add up to weight a certain precise amount. It took me like 20 minutes to extract all the beans from the casings which was way too much hassle to the average person to even consider. This coupled with the fact that Serovital doesn't work in inducing growth is absurd. Yet another nail in the coffin.
Zoro 5'9.5 says on 17/Jun/15
@french guy: no, it's not normal to feel short at real 182cm

In fact when you are 182/183 you are tallish, almost tall. If you meet 10 guys < 30 years old, 7 of them will be shorter than you, only 3 will be taller.

We focus more on tall people, that's why a 177/178/179 cm guy can see himself sometimes as under average, but it's just an impression. In fact a 5'10 person is average even among youngsters

But feeling short at 6 feet, it's the first time I hear that.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover says on 17/Jun/15
french guy says on 16/Jun/15
is it normal to feel short a lot at 182-183 cm?

Depends on how tall your friends/acquaintances are. In France, almost 6ft would be considered tall.
Narr says on 17/Jun/15
6ft7 isn't extreme in my opinion. I wouldn't mind being that tall.
Demystified says on 17/Jun/15
These grow taller products have really one good parallel comparison: the 2012 end of the world haox. You see, before the end of 2012 and the years leading up to it, there were hundreds of sources foreseeing a planet "x", or nibiru coming near earth's orbit and ending civilization as we know it. There popped up a myriad of "information" regarding the Mayan calendar etc., many of them professional-esque looking articles. Pseudoscientific books were published. A movie was made...At the end of the year, nothing happened. At the end of the day, the world keeps spinning. Now they're even speculating over the coincidence of consecutive lunar eclipses as if it means something. And they keep finding material to support the validity of their book with no scientific basis. All this shows at best a weak understanding of what works and what doesn't, and at worst displays the wrath of pure greed.
FiveNine says on 17/Jun/15
@french guy
You asked if it was normal to feel short alot at 182-183....Well
Rob metioned average female height is 5'3.5..
I went to a sock-hop and there were many many females at 5'3
I was a 'half-a-foot taller' than most of the females..!!!!!
At 6feet tall you are definitly up there in height.
FiveNine says on 17/Jun/15
@french guy
You asked if it was normal to feel short alot at 182-183....Well
Rob metioned average female height is 5'3.5..
I went to a sock-hop and there were many many females at 5'3
I was a 'half-a-foot taller' than most of the females..!!!!!
At 6feet tall you are definitly up there in height.
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 17/Jun/15
I did nothing to increase my height. It was weird since I was always claiming to be 6'0" at 21, up until one day where my doctor noticed that I was suddenly taller. He measured me at 187 CM/6'1.5". I felt taller as well. I view growth that happens past 21 as a gift.
truth says on 17/Jun/15
@Amaze I would say 6ft1-6ft3 is ideal, 6ft6-6ft7 is still managable 6ft8+ is too tall, 5ft11-6ft0 and 6ft4 is very good 5ft9-5ft10 and 6ft5 is ok, 5ft8 and 6ft6 is plain bad, 6ft7+ or under 5ft7 is very bad.
182 cm evening height says on 17/Jun/15
@2toes

The same is true for those other countries, though.

Scandinavia, if I remember correctly, has particularly poor fertility rates.




@french guy

I don't know what to tell you, mate, maybe you live in some giant land or everyone around you wears boots and lifts.
Amaze says on 17/Jun/15
@french guy definitely not. You should also be 186cm or a 6'1.25 strong 6'1 in shoes. You are tall lol. You must be hanging around 6'5 guys or what. Straighten up your posture walk around with confidence.

On observations id say 178 is the true average. 178 is true average. 177-178 is the average based on observations. Pinpointing 178 exactly.
Kourosh says on 17/Jun/15
NBAer my eyelevel is at 165.5 in the morning and at night rest at 164 or little above and im 176 cm on the nose.
Amaze says on 16/Jun/15
@Sentenza i agree. i really think 6'4 is human limit with 6'5 being the absolute max. 6'6 is definitely too tall and 6'7 and above is wayyyyyyyyy to much. im 5'8 and id rather be 5'7 than 6'7. your height at 6'0 is very good i'd say ideal range 6'0-6'2 even 6'3 is still good. its better to be low tall than giant or extreme tall defo.

tall heights imo 6'0-6'2 best for comfort.
Emil 182-183 cm says on 16/Jun/15
@Ally
I experienced the same between 19-20. Haven't grown since though. But I wasnt a late bloomer, I just gained height at a more steady rate.
2toes says on 16/Jun/15
It's kind of disappointing that the fertility rates of Spain and Italy started to drop when our boys and girls were becoming as tall as British, Swiss, French, and only 3 cms under young German averages... So we have a lot of old people here who make a shorter impression for foreigners.
an anonymous peach says on 16/Jun/15
Celebheights 6'1.75 says on 11/Jun/15
@An Anomymous Peach I was about 6 feet tall (maybe a fraction shorter) from 19-20, but then I quickly grew at around 21 (to possibly 22) to about 187-188 CM.

What did you do that made you grow? Did you have a good diet and exercised alot?
french guy says on 16/Jun/15
and what is the true average for a 18-30 years old man, based on your observations not on statistics
french guy says on 16/Jun/15
is it normal to feel short a lot at 182-183 cm?
grizz says on 16/Jun/15
@Bill,I'd need more data to answer your question.
In what stage of puberty is your son(did his voice change,how strong/thick is his facial hair etc%?
How tall are you,how tall is the mother?

Regarding age,I am one of the very rare people who'd still classify you as a young person(till age of 45)
Jah says on 16/Jun/15
188cm male, 173cm female is perfect in every way in my opinion.
Demystified says on 15/Jun/15
I saw another natural height increase website. They posted pictures depicting real height gains this time...except these pictures are from actual leg lengthening patients. If you zoomed in close enough, you can see symmetrical round miniature scars on the same bilateral positions on each leg. The scars were not there in the before photo, but present in the after photo. The pictures are actually of a leg lengthening patient who calls himself Apotheosis, who originally posted his picture on a news site and perhaps a blog. They just copy and pasted these photos to embed unto the scam site as "proof".

Amazingly, one scam I have stumbled upon a long time ago even featured your picture Rob. I believe you were comparing and contrasting the height difference in elevator shoes vs normal ones. Jenny also stood by your side as a reference point. This is retarded on their part, but I suppose fortunately so. Since they keep making careless mistakes, we can easily see through the mist.
[Editor Rob: I did a video about it actually, the dafties were using my elevator shoe photo within their grow taller promotional video.

The dafter thing is that youtube (aka google) seemed to think it was perfectly fine to promote a grow taller product using a photo from celebehights of a guy (me) in an elevator shoe and pretending their grow taller product gave the result! Says a lot about the organization itself...]
Amaze says on 15/Jun/15
@Bill he could do

@grizz lol she's a giant then in those heels at 5'11 and is 6'3/4 range in heels thats nuts. how tall are you again? and i just think 187 188 is better cause of no issues. i'd prefer to be 183 over 193 but i'd prefer to be 188 any day all day
Anonymous1 says on 15/Jun/15
...regarding being taller; In my opinion, most (not all) guys over 6 feet stoop, to some extent, especially young guys. I don't know if it's lack of confidence, being self conscious or just trying to look casual, to a fault. But, to me, most have that mild vulture stoop. Liam Neeson and Alan Alda have it, and both did so when young. Posture makes a huge difference, at any height.
Emil 182-183 cm says on 15/Jun/15
@Bill
44 is quite middle age I think... Will your son grow? Depends on how physically developed he is. I was 5'7 at his age and now I'm around 6'0
NBAer says on 15/Jun/15
Is it just me or every man under 170 exaggerates their height by atleast 5cm??
I know a few short guys,all of them under 170,but it seems like none of them admits being under 168cm at WORST.One of them is likely 162-163 MAX,but he has claimed 168!Another one can't be over 167-168,but he usually wears lifts in his shoes to look more like 170,but he claims 175!!I know he can't be over 168,cause i have seen him barefoot and he was EXACTLY at my eyelevel,and my eyelevel is about 167cm(which is believe is a little too low at 179cm),so 168 is more than fair for him.So,is it just me or most guys under 170 inflate their height all the time?I have also noticed that really short or really tall people don't seem to lie,and are usually guite honest about their stature...
WishIWasTaller says on 15/Jun/15
@Rob
My brother is 5'11.75 and I 5'9 and people always comment on his height most guess him taller than he is, and that's what sparked my questions. To me I think 5'11-6'1 is tallish range and 6'2 and over is legit tall range would you agree?
Voiceless Dental Fricative says on 14/Jun/15
Rob,

Do you think 100% of these "get taller as an adult" claims are scams, or do you think there may be some validity to some of them?

Like, do you think any of these proposed stretching exercises might help increase your adult height by a small amount?
[Editor Rob: I would say there is some room for maximising your full height through exercise/stretching if you already are coming from a non athletic background. I did mention in a video a marathon runner who claimed to 'grow' an inch. Her routine seemed to be 1000's of situps and more stretching and a few actors say they measured more after doing alexander technique...]
Sentenza says on 14/Jun/15
@Shorty: Taller is always better, up to SEVEN FEET? Come on mate...unless you want to be a professional basketball player, no. Don't get me wrong, I'm about 6' 0.25" and I would like to be tall-ER, like 6' 2", 6' 3", that sort of height. But the cut off point from good tall, to bad tall comes way before 7' 0". IMO after 6' 5", or maybe 6' 6" the benefits you get from height start petering out. Blokes start dipping their heads every time they go through a doorway, have trouble finding fashionable gear in their size, trying to get a decent pair of shoes in your size becomes a nightmare (I'm a UK 13/US 14, so I know what that's like. Being anything bigger must be even worse) enclosed spaces (planes, public transport, whatever) become an exercise in awkwardness... I'd forfeit all that stuff, even if it means never getting to tower over everybody in the room.

Here in the UK the avg <40 year old man is 5' 9.75", roughly, and I think its about that in most of the western world (countries like the Netherlands and Norway are quite small, comparatively so they don't throw off the average too much). Nobody needs to be 6' 8" or whatever to feel "big" and get the benefits of being a tall guy. Even something as low as 6' 0" - 6' 2" can comfortably provide that.
Ally says on 14/Jun/15
Rob, Im 21 now..exactly 2 years ago my lowest height was 179.2 cm. A year later - 180... Now I
usually measure around 181-181.2 cm at 10-11 pm (even after training) Am I considered a late bloomer or nah? :) I know its not a huge growth but still..
[Editor Rob: it's a final little gain at 19-20, more than the vast majority get at that age (nothing).]
Demystified says on 13/Jun/15
Let's just say for a moment that drinking a magical concoction can indeed increase your height. I have a hard time imagining the outcome of that because while you'd get taller, wouldn't your other features have to enlarge as well? Wouldn't someone's nose get bigger and bigger and face swell? I have a hard time imagining that a concoction would exclusively grow legs and leave everything else just fine. I know a disorder called acromegaly where the face is literally disfigured by excessive growth hormones. I'm not sure I'd take that deal. Somebody should sue whoever is selling that substance.
Bill says on 13/Jun/15
Im 44 yo. What are young man age range. Also my son is 15 and 5`11. Will he grow. Answer Both
James B says on 13/Jun/15
When i got out i have not seen much evidence to suggest height matters in terms of getting attention from women.


The bar I hang out in my local town quite often I see guys like 5'2 on the dance floor get attention from women whereas they quite often ignore the tall guys over 6ft. The owner of my local who is like 5ft tall gets floods of attention from the ladies more so than the bouncers who are 6ft.


I live in the south of England and I don't know maybe in the US height if you want to have success with women is more important if your a guy compared to over here?
Lillo Thomas says on 13/Jun/15
Nope 5'5 is very short
120 says on 12/Jun/15
*22 cm skull
grizz says on 12/Jun/15
@Amaze,I might agree with you that,generally, 187-188 cm is the perfect height (not too tall to experience "tall-guy issues",yet tall enough that you never get dwarfed in crowd of tall people.
However,for my needs,strong 6ft3(191 cm) seems like the best height atm.
Yes,these are some tall numbers for girls you mentioned,but I lean even towards taller ones-5ft11,6ft,6ft1 (6ft1.5 is a cutoff height,though).
There's a girl in my city,arguably the most beautiful one (curves on right places and the just the rjght amount,beautiful face) , she's 5ft11 and in partys always wears ridiculously high heels(they probably give her almost 5in in height)-with 6ft3 and dress shoes I am almost the same height as she.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 12/Jun/15
Rob when you retire from celebheights who will take over you could be on
celebheights for at least 40 years your when your 78 your hair and beard will be white by
then will you keep the beard in 40 years time or will shave it off imagine
what you will look like when your 78.
[Editor Rob: if I was still alive and doing celebheights at 78, with even half my hair and measured 5ft 7 I would say 'yes please!'...

But you never know what the future holds...there are so many distractions and forms of entertainment that vying for any sort of audience becomes increasingly difficult every year.]
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
Went to the Magic Ayurvedic website and they attack Lance for being a scammer. Isn't it funny how they all attack each other for being scammers? They just end up exposing each other many times over.

By the way Rob, you videos are used on their blogspot to attack Lance. Click Here
[Editor Rob: yes I seen them being embedded.

If you notice what Lance has done - he has been promoting that ayruevedic urea in many of his videos and contains links to the site ayurvedicureapills.com/

I believe the Scam site is right - Lance runs the 'scam of the scam' site...why else is he promoting it. Well, at $500 a bottle, you can see why it is very lucrative...

]
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
I watched Lance Ward's video for the Ayruvedic Formula, and it's not his voice making the video advertisement. It sounded like it was a computer speaking those words because the voice intoned in the typically uneven way that a computer or gps does. It does have a British accent but I could tell through it all. So why would he use a computer to narrate the ad? Maybe as a coverup as it is less traceable to him personally? Clever though, it sounded almost like a real British lad.
Matthew says on 12/Jun/15
@Demystified

Any of the spinal decompression methods of "height increase" are only going to yield any results as long as you keep up using these methods. Additionally, the amount of height a person can actually gain from this stuff is small. Those who do manage to gain height will usually only see a 0.5 - 1.0 cm increase, which is temporary height unless the decompression is kept up regularly.
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
@shorty. You are of value in the gene pool, even though you claim that women consistently weed out men under 5'10". What's going on is that nature is trying to maintain the average height, and there is a regression to the mean. For every 6'3" man there needs to be a 5'7" man to make the average around 5'10" or 5'11". And the reason that the average heights are chosen by nature to be maintained is because evolution is trying to play it safe in my view. Because while 6'1" is a golden height for the male gender, it would not play well to the female gender's reproductive strategy (a tall woman is often rejected). As such, nature has chosen 5'8", 5'9", 5'10", 5'11" has safer heights that both genders can use for reproduction. A 5'10" man is okay; a 5'10" woman is also just fine. If every man were 6'2" then their daughters would likely end up statistically taller which would lower their reproductive success due to men wanting to choose shorter partners than themselves. Nature does need to sacrifice the height of some men to maintain an average that is beneficial for both sexes. So you do fulfill a valuable function within the gene pool. The taller man is ideal for producing tall sons. You may be set up to produce shorter daughters ideally. You may feel despondent now, but you'll probably thank yourself for just being who you are since you're probably not going to be the man who ends up with a 6 feet daughter no man approaches. So it goes something like this: 6'1" is ideal for men, 5'7" is ideal for women, 5'10" is usable for both sexes and is ideal for humanity overall. I may not be exact here but it demonstrates the point. Nature is constantly trying to maintain the 5'8"-5'11" range for the sake of everyone's success. Nature did set up some people to be better than others by default. You may not be preferable, but to say you should be weeded out of the gene pool is illogical. You need to be there to offset someone who is 6'3" so that average ends up back in the middle. This is done for the safety of everyone. You can consider yourself a hero. Plus, you'll have daughters who are likely 5'2"-5'4", and those are very valuable female heights. I've seen shorter women hit on all the time. What is perceived as an advantage to one sex may not be as beneficial if not detrimental to the other.
WishIWasTaller says on 12/Jun/15
@Rob
Can legit 6'0 guys look average in a younger crowd as well?
[Editor Rob: at times they might blend in as average with 18-30 range in some countries.

I believe our eyes pay more attention to the taller heights than the average/shorter, it seems to register more. I think that's why many people who might be tall sometimes don't feel it - they are drawn to people nearer their height and taller and that forms a more longer lasting impression...a lot of the shorter heights they miss as they are paying more attention to their height or taller.]
Emil 182 cm says on 12/Jun/15
@Rob
I measure 184.7 cm out of bed sometimes. My extreme low is 182.2 cm, so nearly an inch loss. What height should I claim, in your opinion?
Rusty 190cm says on 12/Jun/15
Rob, do you think 6'3" is a height that stands out in a crowd in US and UK? I know ive told you before that I am 1/8 inch shy of the mark at my evening height. People frequently tell me I am a noticeably tall guy and that my height is the first thing people notice about me and it does draw a lot of attention to me, of course not at the level a 6'7" guy would get.
[Editor Rob: yes it is a noticeable height, but in a big crowd you will find a good chunk in that zone and a smaller chunk over that zone...but enough to feel quite tall in a crowd.]
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
One thing in particular about grow taller 4 idiots that raises suspicion is that while it purportedly took the author 2 years to research, therein contained several spelling and grammatical errors. Why would he go through all that work for two years and within 80 pages with large legible font make several glaring spelling mistakes? He claims he is patient enough to work non-stop for 2 whole years yet seemingly writes the book like a first draft of a Freshman high school student, not a PHD doctor degree like he claims. He should be writing like a columnist on psychology today...or if he really was originally from Vietnam, should have hired an editor anyways to correct his punctuation and spelling as he is charging a great price for it. At the very least, you deduce that he's wanting to keep all the profit--otherwise he'd at least be sharing it with an editor. Greedy sociopath.
[Editor Rob: it's lucrative...and VERY lucrative for affiliates.

This is why I've been doing some videos on youtube about the fake testimonials. Affiliates earn 75% of the $47. He claims near 200,000 sales of his ebook, which is an insane amount.

If every sale was the result of an affiliate he'd have grossed over 2 million, but not all sales will be via affiliates. I'm certain he'd create testimonials himself and people would find the site on search engines without needing to click via an affiliate link...I'd be surprised if he hadn't grossed over 4 million from the ebook.

And then you have the new 'kid' on the block. Magic Miracle Ayruvedic Formula...only $10,000 to gain several inches. Mugs are actually buying this stuff.

There is a scam site of the scam itself selling bottles at a comparatively cheap $500. The Scam site claims Lance Ward runs the other scam site (a scam of a scam)...
]
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
All of these height increase programs revolve around decompression of the spine and anti-gravity principles of physics. This is the same principle behind morning height and evening height fluctuation. What they say about gaining 5 cm after spinal decompression is true, but further research into NASA and astronauts' height increase in weightless space confirms the temporary nature of the increase. After astronauts return to earth, the constant gravity compresses them right back into original bodily state. The creators of these height increase programs seem to be banking on the probability that you'll keep up the exercises until the refund period expires, at which point they will have "rightfully earned" your money. Additionally, I have also read reports that many of these miscellaneous programs do not return your money at any point in time at all...

The problem is that many people are accustomed to modern privileges such as clean water and fresh produce in developed countries. In the USA, since most things sold in any store go through regulatory agencies like the FDA and CDC, you may be lured into thinking that there is likewise such levels of regulation on the internet. As I have seen, this is merely wishful thinking. The internet is like the Wild Wild West unless you go to a organizational site like Amazon or iTunes. Similarly, we see penis enhancements or cure for Alzheimer's in various places. We know that there is no cure for Alzheimer's...come on.
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
I go on to do some more research on height gain programs and find this one which looks genuine, "Agrowbics", an actual gym class with a real trainer who is unafraid to show his face and put his reputation on the line. Actual reporters from the UK have gone through the program. One of them gained 4.9 cm in 6 weeks. Quote, "I was stunned, and even Pierre had to measure me twice before we both believed it: six weeks ago, I was 160.5cm (5ft 2in); now I’m 165.4cm (5ft 4in)." This sounds good...

However, as I read further down the article, they include this clause, "And, while it’s unlikely I’ll stay this tall forever as my spine will squish back down over time, Pierre reckoned if I keep up my stretches and remember to maintain a good posture, at least some of the height gain should be permanent."

What the hell is that supposed to mean? What does he mean at least some of the height will be permanent? Well, that means you can gain 1 cm out of the 5 you gained for 2 weeks and he still gets to keep your money.

Unsurprisingly, after checking out the gymbox site where this exercise program is allegedly offered, it was already disbanded. This program lasted from some time in 2012 to "x" date. It did not last until the present day, which means something along the way didn't work. Either people lost the height gained over time or the process was too grueling and unsafe to generate enough demand. If it did work in a stable fashion, the conductor of this program would have continued to capitalize upon the venue and expand operations all throughout. Instead, it had remained localized in one gym in England while it lasted and had never spread. As a business minded man, I am sure this Pierre would have tried to expand operations all throughout the world had it been safe, effective, and sustainable. The thing is that somehow it failed to live up to expectations.

About a year ago, I found Pierre on Facebook and sent him a message asking him about agrowbics. No reply as expected. Had I known some miracle elixir or formula for health and wellbeing I'd answer all questions from those first precious few customers to spread the word of its effectiveness so that I can expand the business. Here, we have an ambitious man who is not willing to even hint about it. This strikes me as odd. I could tell from the pictures on his profile that this is a vain man who is into dating hot chicks and models--one who likes showing off and flaunting his wealth. Why wouldn't a man of this type not want to answer a potential message that might lead to increasing that wealth for him? Because it's simple--he doesn't know what to do. If he had any true confidence in this exercise program, it would have taken off long ago. He'd be a multi-millionaire by now. From the clothes he's wearing I'd say he's making around $100,000 USD a year max. You know what I'm saying? None of this feels right. As I stare into those eyes of his, I see a snakes oil salesman. Just something in that smile doesn't look right. Something in the wind just gives it away.

The sign of a good salesman is one whose work is structured in a way where he receives a small payment up front and the rest will have to wait until the job is done in its entirety. This way, they are constantly establishing and maintaining the reputation that is necessary to be commissioned part 2 of the labor. For instance, a professional sportsman must win round 1 in order to get into round 2 and so on. When you make whole payments up front with no part 2 of the job in sight which depends on the reputation and trust built from part 1, they can simply lie to you with no consequences on their behalf. After all, the money is received and the job is over...this is how these scams operate. Of course, when they show their face, they'll at least take care that the safety aspect is rather fine but the ultimate effectiveness is still up for debate.

This is the world we dwell within. A bunch of liars and hypocrites. But it is better to light a candle than to scream at the dark.
Demystified says on 12/Jun/15
HA! After reading through grow taller 4 idiots again just the highlights, I stumble upon a section towards the tail end about "Height increase alternate methods and scams". Leg lengthening is mentioned as a desperate measure for people who don't want to commit to a proper exercise regiment, but isn't that the whole point of buying this book--to avoid surgery? Why would they even mention about that unless the book is possibly ineffective? Another aspect they mention is hypothyroidism and other endocrine/hormonal system disorders that can mitigate growth, but this is all shoved towards the back. This is unbelievable. When someone claims anything is 100% scientifically tested, we come to expect 100%. What a contradiction to their own advertisement. They really fell on their own sword with this one had they had conscience. Except...they don't. That sword is pointed towards you instead.
TJE says on 12/Jun/15
@ an anonymous peach
I've grown an inch since turning 18. I'm 20 now.
Aaron183cm says on 11/Jun/15
@Shorty

I think you are being just a little bit stupid. Most women do not desire men who are 7 f****** feet tall (a simple google search on height preference can prove this time and time again) Do you even know how huge 7'0" is? Even 6'8" guys look massive enough already. How many 6'5"+ male sex symbols are there anyway? On places like dating sites I doubt most women even know what a real 5'10" looks like. Not saying 6'5" is a bad height by any mean, it's a good height just not ideal. It's probably worth noting that really tall men will naturally get a lot of attention simply because they are an anomaly. As humans we are naturally curious of things that deviate from what is "normal".
Demystified says on 11/Jun/15
I've been doing some thinking about all those stretching exercises in grow taller 4 idiots, and let me tell you: they're quite difficult to perform for people without training. Even with me as a 23 year-old man in okay shape they're pushing the limits. Now I recall how students were in high school gym class--not all of them were in shape and could perform the various activities like lift their own weight for long. Grow taller 4 idiots revolves mainly around an exercise where you stand on your tiptoes for 3 minutes consecutively for 3+ times (at least 12 minutes). I found it rather hard and I was in okay shape. If I struggled with it, then I'd imagine about half the people couldn't sustain it or would simply give up due to lack of discipline. That is the truth. However, on the product's marketing site, they claim almost all the people had no problems with the exercises, suggesting that they were all members of the US navy seals or Napoleon's invincible Old Guard. But on the testimonials, you could clearly see these were average civilian types, many with little or no muscle definition. I find it hard that these people could actually go through with the pain. It's impossible for 98% of them to be doing the exercises successfully. A more realistic percentage would have been 70%, and even then some would drop off due to lack of discipline. You'll end up with perhaps 30-40% who were strong willed and capable...again, these scams are run by unscrupulous pests.
Celebheights 6'1.75 says on 11/Jun/15
187 CM is strong tall, but not unseen. Most would guess that we are 6'2"-6'3" as well.
Celebheights 6'1.75 says on 11/Jun/15
Why do so many try to act like they've never seen somebody who is 5'7" before when an actor is that height? 5'7" is shortish.
Celebheights 6'1.75 says on 11/Jun/15
@An Anomymous Peach I was about 6 feet tall (maybe a fraction shorter) from 19-20, but then I quickly grew at around 21 (to possibly 22) to about 187-188 CM.
120 says on 11/Jun/15
Rob, if i'm facing a 5'11½" (182 cm) guy and my eyes are looking straight at his philtrum. how tall would I be?

Note: My skull length should be about average
[Editor Rob: roughly over 2 and not quite 2.5, but it could depend if they had a short or long nose.]
Aaron183cm says on 11/Jun/15
185-186cm at night is golden. At worst you will be average in the Dinaric Alps, but almost everywhere else you will be legit tall (meaning 1 standard deviation above the average). 6'1" is probably slightly more convenient than 6'2" when it comes to stuff like legroom and finding clothes. Studies also show that men taller than 6'1" have an increased likelihood of suffering back problems later in life. 6'1" is also a height that many women love and a lot of surveys prove this.

can't go wrong with a legit 6'1". It has the fewest downsides of any height.
Josh says on 11/Jun/15
@richkid123
I agree with you, a legit 5'5 guy at night dont Look very short, in my opinion 165 cm 5'5 (night height) is the cut off point between short and very short... I'm from germany and even here its not that uncommon to see guys from 5'5 - 5'7 and i work at a fashion store in a big City so i see a lot of people everyday ;)
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 11/Jun/15
Rob what height would be the end of very tall would 6ft 7in be considered t
the end of very tall the start of giant heights like 6ft 5in and 6ft 6in
are still considered very tall but on high end of very tall low end of
giant so does that mean 6ft 7in would be the start of giant.
[Editor Rob: I think once you get into 6ft 8 range you really will stand out even in big crowds,]
an anonymous peach says on 11/Jun/15
Did any of you experience late growth spurts?

Most people say that growth between 17-19 is usually very minimal (1 inches at most), but there some exceptions of people reaching their adult height later than average.

A good example is Kevin Costner, who claims he shot up 11 inches from 5' 2" at 18-20 all the way up to 6' 1"

Ralph Macchio grew 1 inch at age 25.

Then there are some basketball players, some of which who have been known to grow an entire foot and then some in their late teens/early 20s
Amaze says on 11/Jun/15
5'5 isn't very short, its just regular short.

5'4 and under very short(5-6) inch below average

5'5-5'6 regular short
5'7 upper short
SAK says on 11/Jun/15
@richkid123, I would personally describe 5'5 as very short. 5'6 is ordinary short along with 5'7. This is reference to England, where average male height is 5'10.
WishIWasTaller says on 11/Jun/15
Hey Rob. Would you consider a 5'11.5 person tallish?
[Editor Rob: yes, kind of starting tall range, but in many situations would seem within average amongst younger crowd.]
JohnGB says on 11/Jun/15
@Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 7/Jun/15
How tall am if a 5'1.75" measured refigerator came exactly to my shoulders? 5'11"?
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It seems you already know how tall you are... since your name has 6'1.75" in it. So why ask? In general there is 1 foot between shoulder and top of head (Which I suspect you already know) so you'd be around 6'1-2
JJF says on 11/Jun/15
@Amaze & all

If we’re going to be precise about it I would go with 1.87m every time (rounded down = 6’1.5”).
Reason being that you will (quite likely) be the tallest or at very least amongst the tallest in any given social situation, but never really AWKWARDLY taller than others. This is a big point for me – you don’t want to TOWER over people, it makes most social interactions more difficult. You just want to be ‘noticeably-but-not-extremely-so’ taller as often as possible.

I’ve always found that being about 2” taller than the next tallest people around you is a real ‘height comfort zone’, if you get what I mean. At 6’0.5” this is sometimes the case, but 1.87m would seem to be a real sweet spot (as I have noticed when wearing thick-soled/heeled boots that add an extra inch on top of what normal shoes would).

1.87m Is never going to look clumsy (unless you are ridiculously thin, which can be fixed) and even next to giant 6’5”-ers you won’t look ‘short’.
You can still ‘fill-out’ most 1.87m frames with some dedication and half-decent genetics. You’ll fit into most vehicles, and most XL-sized slim fit clothes will look EXTREMELY good on this height with an average or even slightly skinny build. Womens’ height in dress-heels won’t be a problem either.

I rest my case :-D
Shorty says on 11/Jun/15
My ideal height would be 6'5. I know a couple of guys that height, and they're both very impressive...one a football player type, and the other long and lean. Everything looks perfect... limbs perfect length, torso nice and full, head perfectly proportioned with the rest of the body. They look like superheroes or James Bond or whatever. They just have to stand there and women flock to them... kind of like that tall, blonde California girl type everyone wants. If you think 6'1 is best... see what a 6'1 guy looks like standing next to John Wayne in his heyday... or Vince Vaughan. Taller is ALWAYS better... up to 7 feet, I think... but if you've hit 6'5, everything else above that is gravy. Guys like me who lost the genetic lottery (I'm a hopeless 5'7) will always look pathetic and laughable next to guys over 6'. I guess we do deserve to be weeded out of the gene pool, in a sense... and that's what's happening. I read the other day that a new study says that over 98% of women filter their online dating searches to screen out all men under 5'10. Yes, you heard that right... look it up... 98%. I guess that means that guys like me have to hope that that the one out of 50 women who actually will read our profiles will like the look of us enough to give us a shot at even talking to them. Height isn't the most important thing... it's really the only thing, sad to say. And isn't it just like life to have the most important thing be something almost entirely out of your control? You know, there are sites where overweight women can go where guys go crazy for them... they're called chubby chasers. There is a market for that, and I'm actually really happy for these overweight women that they now can find love where before it would have been more difficult if not impossible if they lived in a small town or whatever. Why isn't there something like that for short men? Because NO women want short men, that's why. We are so screwed... or not, actually (ha, ha). Where are the tall women clamouring to date 5'7 men?
Amaze says on 10/Jun/15
@JJF reasonable height chart

@Zoro 5'9.5 decent height you picked(6'0-6'1,183-185cmish) its a very good height too. these two are in the ideal range imo. and your heights average it aint short or tall right in the middle.
good choice.

@grizz 6'3 is still a good height plus your into taller chicks so its reasonable. imo 6'0-6'1'6'2 & 6'3 are the best 6 foot heights. i still would pick 6'2 over 3 though because you would be 6'3 in shoes and taller than 5'9/10/11 girls in heels still. so someone hot like kate upton, youd be taller than her in heels lol.

@TJE good choice. you'd pick 6 foot basically(6'0) 183cm. very good height. low tall or relatively tall. it doesnt stand out and no problem with space or clothes, yeah no problems like a guy 190cm or over would face.

all good choices.

my friend is a 193cm guy 6 ft 4 and loves it. he thinks he is perfect but i know i wouldnt wanna be that tall. it's solid very tall.

for me, 188cm is just perfect. 187/188. 6'2 + being built = perfection. 6'0-6'2/3 being built = perfect range it's just i always think 6'2 or 188 is perfect
Demystified says on 10/Jun/15
One thing about grow taller programs is that...even if it worked and you gained 5 inches permanently, wouldn't the makers be liable for your mental wellbeing? It's not as if it'll be all good--you may even want to return to an original height. Real surgeons who perform limb lengthening always have to be there for their patients afterwards. We see no evidence of any care among the creators of these programs for their customers, demonstrating definitively that all they are after is financial ripoff, not safety. Even if it works, it doesn't work, either way.
186.66666cm says on 10/Jun/15
188cm is by far the best height.
Demystified says on 10/Jun/15
I delved some into many of these internet height increase scams and found them garnering suspicion. As an example, something just didn't seem right at first glance when I entered the grow taller 4 idiots website. The creator calls himself "Dr. Darwin Smith" but also mentions he is from Vietnam. Smith is an English surname and Darwin is obviously a reference to Charles Darwin. Right off the bat you know that the author is deceptive--Pen names were often used by women in the 19th century to give off more credibility to a work of literature since there existed gender discrimination; for example, the author of Silas Marner changed her name to sound more masculine because women were not given a choice--she had to. Here we supposedly have someone who has invented a revolutionary height increase product who just wants nothing but privacy as opposed to fame and stardom and the profit that would follow as a result. He is, rather, simply satisfied in making whatever income is being generated from online sales alone, but from the advertising on the website and all the affiliate links you could tell that this is a greedy individual or group of scammers. However, he isn't courageous enough to show his face on national television or at least go on radio; he is hiding something. This tells you that Dr. Darwin Smith is an invention, not a real person. Meanwhile, the advertising that traverses throughout the webpage is overly optimistic and lax on safety. When compared to a genuine leg lengthening site conducted by professional medical doctors such as Dr. Dror Paley's official webpage, one will find that the scams will state things like "100% safe and scientifically tested" whereas the genuine, real ones will consistently and emphatically state the possible dangers of their methods and procedures as well as the various psychological aspects of it all. The real ones will even go as far to try to discourage you from growing taller. This is because since they are putting their reputations on the line, doctors will do all they can to make sure you are psychologically stable and physically tolerant enough to undergo heavy changes. The scams just have this overall feeling of egging you on to buy the product without any sense of hesitation. Whenever a product claims "100% scientifically tested" it's probably false. Usually, for any product to have even a 99% effective rate would be staggering, but the thing is that no one ever approaches 100% so no one officially dares claim that number. The fact that "100%" is ever even mentioned is perplexing. Even if height increase were 100% possible like grow taller 4 idiots claims, the fact that they don't seem to mention the physical safety and psychological wellness of it all alone is enough to make you question the legitimacy of it. Because in a real doctor's office you'd have to undergo a psychological evaluation to determine even whether you're even just READY regardless that you CAN. The fact that this Dr. Darwin Smith never administers a psych evaluation for his customers before they can purchase the program demonstrates, at the very least, that the product is lax on safety and can compromise your health and wellbeing regardless of whether it works. This product is primarily about the act of the scammer taking money out of your pockets.

I bought the program just to see what was in it out of curiosity, and it looks like the content contained therein took about 2 weeks to write putting in an hour a day, although the author says it took him 2 years to do it. I also went to amazon to get another height increase program (by David Taylor) for free under amazon's sharing program and in that book they actually used the SAME exercises as grow taller 4 idiots. Real or not, it is at least proven by this that the author of grow taller 4 idiots does not care about patent infringement. If you were the creator of some elixir of life, wouldn't you fight to the death to defend its exclusive profitability to your corporation? Or..they do care. They're just too afraid of coming out and suing the competitor because they'd also be suing themselves in the process because they are running a scam.

Some of the advice contained therein grow taller 4 idiots is great advice like sleeping well, holding good posture, and getting good nutrition. However, most people in the developed world who are health conscious are already doing most or all those things. Probably, for fear of getting sued, the authors also mention very discretely that after you are a full fledged adult, there is not much you can do about your height except to improve your posture via stretch exercise. While it is true that good posture can help increase your overall height, the height comes from the spine which is an elastic portion of the skeletal structure. If it can stretch out, the flip side of that is that it could likewise compress backwards, nullifying the permanence of any gain. Furthermore, height that is "gained" from spinal decompression isn't so much a gain as it is maximizing whatever height that was already there but just hidden. It would be akin to finding cash stuck behind curtains and tables and saying that you got richer--no, the money was always there; you just never noticed or bother to pick up. So their height gain argument is invalid.

If you search for reviews on grow taller 4 idiots or any other height increase scams, you'll find many websites that look genuine. Usually, it's a person who was initially suspicious of the program but later tried it and succeeded. However, these reviews are mostly spurious or fake because they all contain a link to the official sales page. Why would someone go through all that trouble of making a website to help you? Many people are rabid fans of a club or organization...how many people who go into the army actually create a website to try to get you to enlist? Probably one or two. Grow taller 4 idiots had like 20 websites dedicated to its good name. This is outright advertising with a deceptive twist. These people are being paid to do it.

While these grow taller programs do offer some good advice, it's really nothing you couldn't get from reading a wikipedia article on human development. Just sleep well, exercise, eat right, be healthy...That's the message. But why depart with 40 bucks?
Muller says on 10/Jun/15
If a 6'guy is 6'1 in shoes, will he be able to look tall among the young generation or will he only be considered tallish? If not, what's the minimum height that must a guy be in his footwear to be look legit tall in public?
french guy says on 10/Jun/15
@andrew

that's wierd, i have a lordosis too and i don't lose 4 cm but 1.9 cm like the majority.
You should ask a doctor and an expert in posturology who will help you to develop your muscles , especially the abdominal muscle because people who have a lordis have weak abdominal muscles
Dio says on 10/Jun/15
@Amaze
I know few people will agree with me on this but I'd pick 194 cm as the perfect height.
Firstly I'm already 190cm and I don't feel very tall although it's rare to see anyone taller than me. Secondly, from my own experience 194 cm is the minimum height at which a guy is 99% guaranteed to not see anyone taller. I know around 8 people in the 186-190 range and a guy who is 192 but I have yet to see anyone in between 195-200 cm. In my entire 18 years of life I have met only one person over 195cm and he was 201 which is too tall(plus he isn't athletic at all)
The only disadvantage I can think of is that most girls already look like children next to me so I can't imagine how hard getting a girlfriend would be if I'd be 4 cm taller.
FYI I live in Romania
ManKo says on 10/Jun/15
Rob, do you think that supplements such as glucosamine, chondroitin and omega 3 can help to prevent heigh loss due to age?
[Editor Rob: t

It's not something I will personally take as I get old...
My mother takes a lot of supplements like that, but it's hard to tell any benefits...the studies done on glucosamine seem to indicate there isn't much benefit, if there is it is small.]
richkid123 says on 10/Jun/15
@jjf your height chart is pretty good, except many don't consider 5'5" to be very short. Many 5'5" guys still look relatively normal in height. Its short but not worth noting.
Andrew says on 10/Jun/15
Hi Rob. I measured myself in the morning yesterday and I was about half a cm off 6ft. When I measure myself in the night I sometimes barely scrape 5'10. Is this height drip normal? I've been told I have lumbar lordosis I have looked it up a little bit and it would appear I do. I have a very visible arch in my back. Do you think if I fixed this I could hold a height of 6ft during the day?
[Editor Rob: 1.5 inches would be an awful lot for somebody to shrink, you expect that on men 6ft 6 as a possibility...

I do think you should maybe research some exercises to help you and even ask your Doctor for recommendations or some guidance. You might then be able to stand taller for measurements at night.]
TJE says on 10/Jun/15
@Amaze

I'd go with 182-184. It's a range clearly above average, people in that range are generally referred to as "tall" (whether or not it actually is; I think it could be at times), doesn't really stick out, and you won't have problems with space or clothes, not as much as a 189-190 guy would have to deal with.
french guy says on 9/Jun/15
i thnik i know how growth chart are constructed
Children are not measured by expert from their birth to 18 as we expected, but they just gather datas from a small sample of health cards and make sure the kids did'nt have health issues which could have stunted their growth.
Or at best they measure children of different ages at one point.
It's far from being accurate, and it doesn't tell you when a kid stop his growth
grizz says on 9/Jun/15
@Amaze, I have no idea what height I'd pick. But anything between 6'1 and 6'3 would be perfect in my eyes. Currently 6'3 because I'm into taller chicks. With the right frame (plenty of exercise) and not too freakish measurements you won't have many issues with finding clothes/shoes. Perhaps an occasional bump in the head if you visit older houses, but that's about it.
James Edward Crowley Maximus Meridius says on 9/Jun/15
Rob what height is considered the end of very tall and the begging of giant
i am guessing 6ft 7in is the start of giant end of very tall 6ft 5in and 6ft 6in are height that are still in the very tall range but on low end of giant high end of very tall do you agree Rob.
[Editor Rob: yes that could be a crossover point, getting into 6ft 8 range suddenly becomes even more of a standout.]
Zoro 5'9.5 says on 9/Jun/15
@Amaze

I would onestly pick anything in the 6ft-6ft1 range, cause according to what I see is a 100% tall height (it's tall in countries like the USA, and even better in Italy where I live) but short enough to not make you look lanky, while majority of 6'2 guy I know are too ungracefully thin and tall

Another good point is that at 6'2-6'3 you are quite often "the tall guy": I wanna be tall, but not the tallest, don't like to always stand out

My actual height is not that bad, is average, that means sometimes I feel shortish and sometimes very solid or even tallish, it's good for clothing, cars, and comfortable in general for everyday life. Quite neutral in seduction or when you have to look intimidating
JJF says on 9/Jun/15
Adult men:

5’5” and below -- Just plain very short, sorry. Some people are born very poor, others very short. Life sucks.

5’6”-5”7 -- Short. Nothing to do about this, but it is obvious at this kind of height.

5’8” -- Short’ish’, but really not short enough to be remarkable, ie. not a defining feature

5’9” - 5”10 -- Neither tall nor short, just completely & totally unremarkable = EXACTLY what ‘average’ means

5”11 -- Tall’ish’. Other end of the ‘ 5foot8”-spectrum’ in that it is not really tall enough to be a defining feature. A kind of ‘tall neutral zone’ if you like…

6’0”-- Relatively tall. A real six footer can often look both genuinely tall or even quite average RELATIVE TO- & DEPENDING on his build (also clothes influence this). But I wouldn’t really call 6 foot ‘TALL’

6’1”-6’2” -- Genuine tall for a guy. At this height you are never going to look average. This is tall everywhere, no matter how chubby your build is.

6’3” – 6’4” -- Just plain very tall. Don’t even see how this can be discussed. If you are 1.90m to 1.93m then you are always ‘very tall’. Even in The Netherlands, where I lived. Case closed.

6’5” and above – Annoyingly tall. I call this bracket ‘annoying’ because at a decent 6’0.5” I feel short next to these people. Which is annoying. So I ‘sort’ of understand what the below-average guys feel like… it’s like spending all my days walking around amongst 6’4”+ers…
MD says on 9/Jun/15
@182 cm evening height,

I think it might depend on the sample size. The change between th 2003-2006 data and 2007-2010 data seems to be sample size. Quite frankly, the sizes all seem to small, but I'm not a statistician. My hope is that with health care and a lot of health indicators improving in America since 2008, that we might see some statistically significant change in the younger generation numbers, since it'd capture a lot of then-teens (now 20-somethings who'd be included in the numbers) during their highest growth years. Conservatively, I think the numbers could go back to the smaller sample size 2003-2006 period showing younger white Americans at 5'10.5", younger black Americans at 5'10.25" and younger hispanic Americans at 5'7". Liberally, maybe a quarter-inc added to those numbers? Who knows? lol
Amaze says on 8/Jun/15
Guys if you could pick your height what would you pick in cm/feet and inches and why? Also think advantages disadvantages clothes car fitting doorway standing out and harder to fill out frame etc.

To me 6'0-6'1 are very good heights, but 6'2 or solid 188cm is perfect. Ryan Reynolds, Abishek Bachchan, Hugh Jackman, Eric bana/ben affleck are people that I can think of in this range. Its always tall, solidly/strong tall and 4 inches above average. You're taller than average comfortably and taller than low tall 6'0 and mid tall 6'1 guys. You don't look freaky or Wkward and when you fill out your frame you look beast and you don't stand out. Also rob has said several times he'd pick 6'2. So yeah I think 6'2 is the best. Remember its not always about being the tallest,its what looks good, doesn't look massive and has no inconveniences only positives that outweigh the negatives. 6'0-1-2 has no negatives and 6'2 is also the tallest in that range which is why another reason it wins. Also everyoje I know said 6'2 to this question literally everyone even taller guys e.g really very tall 6'5 guys.
SportsHeight says on 8/Jun/15
Rob, what constitutes a typical "late bloomer" in your eyes? When do they completely finish growing (20? 22? 24?), and how much do they tend to grow after the age when most people have stopped? I've seen you say that it is relatively rare for men to grow past the age of 18-20. Just how rare would you estimate it is as a percentage of the overall population? What percentage do you think are fully grown by 16/18/20/22/etc.?
[Editor Rob: anybody who gains visible height at 20-21 I think is a late bloomer, a rare very late growth would be 23-4 zone. Anything beyond that might be due to a condition where the growth plates don't close till very late...to do with estrogen levels.]
Daprez says on 7/Jun/15
@matt

it depends on whether your growth plates are still open. if they are then you could gain some inches with good exercise and nutrition. To find out about this you have to get an x ray.
182 cm evening height says on 7/Jun/15
@MD

Do you think it will be any different to the data we currently have?
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 7/Jun/15
How tall am if a 5'1.75" measured refigerator came exactly to my shoulders? 5'11"?
Rifle says on 7/Jun/15
Rob,
Do you think this guy is 7 feet tall barefoot?

Click Here
[Editor Rob: he does look like he'd be near that mark. ]
mike321 says on 7/Jun/15
matt says on 5/Jun/15
if i am a late bloomer and i am 18, how tall can i be when i finish my growth?
i am 169 cm now

Not much maye a few cm? Between when i was 16-21 i grew from 176-189cm (afternoon measurements) so it's very possible, but it is quite unlikely.

I was very much a late bloomer as well.
Verba says on 7/Jun/15
@Rob

What do you think about people in their mid 20's (~25,26) claiming that they grew in their early 20's? How common is it to grow a few mm year after year in your early 20's? Could it be that those people were never that much height aware in the first place or simply just measured their height wrong? Being 21 and having no expectations of growing taller I'd really welcome an additional 1-1,5cm increasement of height.
Dio says on 7/Jun/15
Why is general height 7ft 6.5in (230 cm)?
[Editor Rob: at the time I never intended to add separate pages within the database for different topics, so it's stuck with having to give a page like general height an actual height!]
matt says on 5/Jun/15
if i am a late bloomer and i am 18, how tall can i be when i finish my growth?
i am 169 cm now
JCJ says on 5/Jun/15
Hi Rob, just a quick question. I was wondering why you don't use the late morning heights of people on this website instead of afternoon/evening which will be lower. What I've discovered and I don't know if you'd agree with me is that a person's average height normally occurs around 11am. So surely wouldn't it be a better bet to use that rather than the lowest height of the day or the highest?
[Editor Rob: from the research and my own research the average of your morning/evening is - if you wake up near 7am closer to 9am range.

]
Dr Strangelove says on 5/Jun/15
I think this is what a male height chart boils down to generally speaking:

160 to 170 - Short
170 to 180 - Average
180 to 190 - Tall
190 to 200 - Very tall

Of course there are grey areas in between, but you get the idea...
Jewel says on 5/Jun/15
Just to add Rob. I can answer my own question.

To be a female is a combination of a lot of factors. Masculine men may have a feature or more that is feminine and yet be Masculine or still be men.

Feminine women may have a feature or more which is masculine and still maintain their femininity. Its the overall Rob. Just because you have big shoulders as a woman, or if your a man and you fall in the average female height range - doesn't affect or change your sex.


I get this now.
Jewel says on 5/Jun/15
Rob this is for you (and any one else who wants to answer).

Of late there has been a lot in the news about men "crossing over". i.e. Bruce Jenner and transgender communities.

My question Rob is, in your perception, how does this fair for the tall woman. When a woman is naturally 5.10 and above and she tries so hard to be feminine. And don't get me wrong they pull it off - i.e. Karlie Kloss and all these supermodels who's height earns them their bread and butter in the Industry.

Do you think the advent of men trying to change to women will cast a further shadow on tall women?
[Editor Rob: I think the percentage of people who go through these operations is so tiny that it would barely effect any height stats on the subject.]
MD says on 5/Jun/15
In case anyone is interested, we should be getting our next look at the average height of Americans early next year. I wrote the National Institutes of Health because it would seem that since they do these studies in three-year intervals that we'd be close since the 2007-2010 data has been out for some time. Anyway, the Anthropometric Reference Data for Children and Adults 2011-2014 report will come out sometime in early 2016.
WishIWasTaller says on 5/Jun/15
My brother and I recently got measured by our doctors and I am 5'9 flat(bummer) and my brother is 5'11.75 so much for me hoping to reach 5'11 someday.:(
Daniel says on 4/Jun/15
Im a legit 6'1. 187 cm in the morning, 186 cm throughout the day,and 185 cm at night. Honestly,at times I really feel like a giant. But sometimes I feel barely above average. It depends on where I go to. If I go downtown,I Honestly don't feel that tall. I still feel tall,but it's not uncommon to see 6'3-6'5 guys who edge out me. But in my neighborhood, I'm probaly taller than like 97% of people I see.
Daprez says on 4/Jun/15
@grizz

ok i see. once you are at least 6ft 1 maybe a strong 6ft then you should blend in quite well. It would really help if people learnt how to accurately measure themselves, this would cut down so much exaggeration as well as some therapy for those who feel insecure about height. i can understand if you are a man below 5ft 1 or 6ft 7 and over as, it makes life more of a challenge though.
MrTBlack says on 3/Jun/15
Hey Rob,

How do you prevent height loss with age? I'm 6'2.25" and am hoping I only lose an inch tops by the time I'm 60-80, thanks.
[Editor Rob: I will try to put my thoughts and advice into a video soon on this topic.]
Perception says on 3/Jun/15
There's no need to mention the Netherlands as it doesn't really represent anything. Within Western Europe itself, it's a small place--don't even mention within the world at large. Why not talk about China, India, and Africa? There is a very strong bias here.
Charon540 says on 3/Jun/15
That's how tall I used to be back in 2013-14
Laf says on 3/Jun/15
@totigno: Finland is not a part of Scandinavia.

And i really doubt the average in the dinaric alps is as tall as some people claim. If 6 foot is average, then a solid 6'3 will only be the start of tall. Just too good to be true. I really doubt it.
grizz says on 3/Jun/15
@Verbam @grizz 6'1 is probably considered shortish by 6'5 or strong 6'4 footer.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. And I agree with your listing for the Netherlands.
Muller says on 3/Jun/15
Will a 6' guy be considered tall or tallish if he's 6'1 in shoes?
Verba says on 3/Jun/15
I think one should concentrate on how rare a specific height group is because anything else is subjective.

For a 5'10 person 6'2 is tall, which might be true in certain countries but here in central europe it's not the average but still quite common. 6'5+ is the start of the rare height group. Even in the netherlands (where the average height for young men is ~6'0)you will see that there are really not that much legit 6'5 footer.. most men on the streets hover around the 6'1-6'4 mark.

Also I see alot of people inflating heights by saying that "6'4 is the start giant". The start of giant should be resevered for people over 200+cm imo.

So by dutch standards:

180-184cm: average- subjectively speaking you'll find yourself towered or atleast edged out quite often.

185-189: common tall- You wil edge out most people.. chances are you encounter atleast one 190+cm person during the day. Other than that solid height group, noticeably shorter than the medium talls but you hold your own and you wont look like a shrimp next to them if you are a legit common tall.

190-194: medium tall - You will tower over most of the people during the day but you might find yourself from time to time either on the same eye level with someone or edged out by the 6'5+ group. Though like I said, 6'5+ people are rare even in the netherlands.

195-198: Out standing tall - Chance of seeing someone taller than you is rare

199+: Start of giant - Chance of seeing someone taller than you is very rare-


@grizz 6'1 is probably considered shortish by 6'5 or strong 6'4 footer. Those are rather the exception though. Like I said, it really depends on how many people are above you. Just to show how subjective height really is:

A 6'5 footer standing next to a 6'9 person would be the same as a 6'1 footer standing next to a 5'9 person.
french guy says on 3/Jun/15
@totigno

yeah, i live there.I don't know if people are much taller though
totigno says on 3/Jun/15
french guy says on 1/Jun/15
@totigno

i live in the north, i remember you're french too ?
In which region do you live?

west of france , are you from picardie? people there seem much taller than us , your region is quite like scandinavia ( sweden , finland ...) but 40% 185cm or taller seems crazy , 180cm+ would be more realistic
grizz says on 3/Jun/15
@Daprez, people generally don't have a very good perception on height. It is true that 6ft3 is the start of tall in that region,but only on paper-many 6ft2 guys may fall under the 6ft3 bracket just because people overestimate their heights and/or poorly judge other people's height.

At 6ft1 you will be considered average most of the time,"tall" by short people and "shortish" by tall people. Except in basketball and volleyball,you'll never be classified at 6ft1 as short, while
there is a possibility that,at 6ft,you may experience someone calling you short in everyday life.
Kourosh says on 2/Jun/15
@NBAer
i totally agree with you Height does matter. If anyone says its not, then they are in denial.
Amaze says on 2/Jun/15
@NBAer you're just an above average guy. Your only 4cm away from tall. 6'0 is tall yeah but I agree 185cm or 6'1 is in the perfect height range. I would gladly also pick it instead of 195cm or near/weak 6'5 too. IMO 185cm is very very good.
182 cm evening height says on 2/Jun/15
@Amaze

I'd shift your scale up a bit when it comes to talking about young men at (my) uni.

5'7 and below is properly short.

5'8 is short but you can look average at times.

5 ft 9 is a grey area (can be influenced by build) but you'd qualify as average in thick-heeled boots.

5'10 is medium height; a height at which you will rarely look tall but you'll also rarely feel short.

5'10.6 or so (closer to 5 ft 11 than 5 ft 10) night-time height seems to be the median average, at least in the circles that I interact with at my uni.

5'11 is strong average. Again, you'd rarely feel short in a group of 5 or so guys and you'd be more comfortable average than a 5'10 range guy. You'd feel tall as often as a 5 ft 10 guy feels short and vice versa. 5'10.7 night-time height (ie. pretty much standard 5'11) is probably the start of very weak above average while a strong 5 ft 11 (5'11 or a bit more at night) will be statistically above average but it probably won't be that visible.

5'11.5 or so night-time height is where you'd actually start to feel taller than most of your male peers. That's pretty much my height and I do feel above average but not properly tall.

6'0 (183cm at night) is comfortably above average/low tall in almost all settings apart from sports teams.

6'1 is the start of proper tall, where people will actually see that you've got 2 inches or so on the average bloke at uni.

6'2 is strong tall. It's ~3 inches above my estimated uni average.

6'3 A legit 6'3 guy qualifies as upper strong tall.

6'4 is the start of very tall.

6'5 is strong very tall.


For me, the perfect range is a strong 6'0->6'2. I work out and so I'd say that that is a range where you can build an impressive physique without slogging for as long as an even taller guy and when you do build your physique up, it looks more impressive than an average guy with similar muscular development. More importantly, as you go above 6'2, the risks of having a weird frame or always looking lanky (even with developed muscles) increase.
Daprez says on 2/Jun/15
@grizz

Ok i was just planning to go around the Dinaric Alps mainly Montenegro and Herzegovina. I understand so there's just more people around the 6ft mark then other european countries. it's quite strange that 6ft 2 would be still seen as tall if it's only 1-2 inches above average. i would of thought it would be tallish over there and 6ft 3 would start tall.
120 says on 2/Jun/15
(So oops, i might've made a mistake. *So pretend you're me.
120 says on 2/Jun/15
So Rob, a question for a height guess. So I'm 5'8".5, so if you're looking straight at the center or upper part of her forehead. I have a 22 cm skull and my eye range is 4.25 in. How tall would she be?
[Editor Rob: 5ft 6.5 is possible, but also 5ft 6]
Lisa says on 1/Jun/15
@184.3m(Night): Do you have a link to the Science Journal article about women growing and men stagnating? thanks
chrisi says on 1/Jun/15
Hi I have two important questions to you Rob and the others here, I am 18 years old and about a week ago my height was: 175,o-175,2 cm morning
173,6 cm evening
173,2 cm night

I discovered that grow to: 176,0cm morning
174,6 cm evening
174,2 cm night
Now my questions are, is my height lost normal? and is it a good sign for growing more in the future (till 21)? I want to hit at least 175cm or 178cm (if I am lucky).
french guy says on 1/Jun/15
@ Amaze you make lot of contradictory statements such as
"height doesn't matter, but height is a strong topic at school "
"height doesn't matter, but girls prefer tall guys, and tall guys get more respect at the workplace"

"height isnt important but however some girls reject boys for being too short, and apparently taller people are more successful in the work place get more respect and stuff. height is only related to beauty e.g. a taller man looks better e.g. a 6'0 guy looks better than a 5'7 guy body wise but a 6'0 guy obviously beats a 6'6 guy. too tall or too short sucks. "

how old are you amaze? I give you 13 max but no, you're 18, you're an adult :/ , but you reason like a kid.

" Everyone here knows you are the most insecure, getting limb lengthening at 182.5 night thats preposterous."

That could be true, but in 2 years i will stop worry about height, i would rather having a horrible year and then enjoy life than worrying about it for years.
However if you think i'm the most insecure person, then you're the second, don"t take this the wrong way, but it's true, you are intelorant and you get mad when someone disagrees whith all the stupid charts and comments you have made
Amaze says on 1/Jun/15
So many trolls and giant kingdom coming in here 188-9 tallish lmao I'm cracking up at you fools
french guy says on 1/Jun/15
@totigno

i live in the north, i remember you're french too ?
In which region do you live?
NBAer says on 1/Jun/15
The reality is height DOES matter to everyone pretty much...That's why people always tell you to do something,help someone in an activity for example,and ESPECIALLY if you're tall people always think you should participate in anything and even sometimes expect great things from you,just because you're tall.I don't even think of myself as tall,but 95% of people i know call me tall(i don't think that's really the case at 179cm),especially women under 165cm(alot of them) and men under 175. I mean some guys always wanted me to play soccer on my village's team,but i didn't like the idea and all of them told me i should because i had the 'body' for it (height,weight).Anyway,the ideal male height after some thought is 185cm!A legit 185 is always tall and in areas with low averages,it's GOLDEN tall.I mean if i had to choose between 185 and 195,i would gladly choose 185 because if you have good proportions,you will look perfect at this height,you'll get girls anytime lol and you will always be guessed 188+ by most people.
184.3cm (Night) says on 1/Jun/15
Sam says on 30/May/15
A lot of the time people say 6ft2 is the perfect height, but I think the advantages diminish once you reach the 6ft benchmark and go any further. Say for example a 6ft male compared to a 6ft2 male, I'm pretty sure most women would be interested either way, with the 6ft2 guy maybe having the edge, but say a 5ft10 male compared to a 6ft male, the 5ft10 male is viewed as having more of a disadvantage in comparison, even though the difference is the same.

Thats because a woman who falls anywhere between 5'5" -5'10" will reach 5'9" to over 6'2" in some big heels. The 6 foot guy gets to 6'1 or maybe a bit more depending on shoes so he is sitting good for most women but maybe the 5'10" woman will not view him as attractive as the 6'2 guy.

The 5'10" guy gets to 5'11" in shoes and so 5'5-5'7 max i believe if i follow how women seem to think. Maybe not even 5'7" as they expect you to still be a bit taller so maybe 5'6" max. Now factor in the fact (science journal) that women are growing while we as men have stagnated and i can see problems in the future unless as a society we change how we view height in general.

I mean if 5'5 is the new average then a guy has to be a solid 5'9" to even get a shot with women who follow the "has to be taller when im in heels" line. Although as one guy said to me once, he has an in-built bitch filter.
184.3cm (Night) says on 1/Jun/15
Ice says on 31/May/15
170-178 / - Short
179-185 - average

186-189 - tallish

189 tallish, what planet is that on?
Kourosh says on 1/Jun/15
I'm 5'9.5 and i feel short as much as i feel tall. Somedays im shorter than almost everyone peers , and there are somedays im almost the tallest being around. But i feel more average to below average than being solid average to tall.

i wish i was 5'10.5 to 5'11 at least :(

sucks to be short.
totigno says on 1/Jun/15
french guy says on 30/May/15
according to statistics, the average height for young men is 178 cm, which means 15 % are taller than 185 cm, in short, for every guys you see in the street, only 4 or 5 are taller than 185 cm, that's just impossible.
Based on my experience the true average is 183 cm, 40 % are 185 cm or taller, sounds more realistic.190 cm is the start of legit tall, 175 cm is legit short

you must live in giant world! 40% 185cm or taller!
when i was at uni my friend who was 188cm was towering most guys and said 175cm is an average height
and a 190cm guy got comments about how huge he was
TJE says on 1/Jun/15
I thought you said you reached 174, Amaze.
OneNamePlease says on 31/May/15
@amaze
I'm just like you
I want to be 175cm.
Its probably
OneNamePlease says on 31/May/15
@amaze
I'm just like you
I want to be 175cm
gangsta says on 31/May/15
@Daprez
Dinaric Alps is a region full with tall people, especially Montenegro and Herzegovina(part of Bosnia and Herzegovina). I've been to Montenegro, the height average must be amazing for this country.
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 31/May/15
The average height in Dinaric Alps seemed to be more 184 CM.
6fthunkofchunk says on 31/May/15
5'8 is fine height. Especially if you're stocky. Workout and you'll look intimidating
Vibram says on 31/May/15
I feel short at 177cm. I just saw Kell Brook the boxer on TV who's 175cm and he looked like a small man. It made me sad.
Amaze says on 31/May/15
5'9 being short lmao 175 thats ridiculous this ain't giantland a giant planet lol ridiculous.
Amaze says on 31/May/15
175cm is not short and 190 does not start tall. True average is 178 for our generation and 175 for people 30-40 etc . 183 starts
tall and 170 starts short. I only talk about height because taller height is better but it really doesn't matter LOL. I'm not insecure at all. I would never ever get leg limb lengthening ever even if I was shorter. 175cm ain't short at all its medium height
5'8/9/10 is medium height
5'7 is short last short height
5'11 is above average
6'0 is low tall
6'1 is legit TALL if you don't think 6'1 is tall your crazy
6'2/188 is strong tall lmao
Lol height is a pretty strong topic at school so don't act like you know loads of people I know talk about height. My dad especially and friends lol there's a lot of tall people in my school too.

You go may to uni which has taller people however thats not true true average is 175-178 above average is 179-80 tallish is 181-182 low tall begins at 183 if you do not think 6'1 and above is tall then you're crazy I'm afraid. Also you were comparing human height to dbz saying oh 6'4 is 10/10 and stuff LOL and 175 is 1/10 and 183 is 5. After seeing that post you lost all credibility I'm afraid. 183 is a very very good height and you French guy are actually the one lacking in confidence. Everyone here knows you are the most insecure, getting limb lengthening at 182.5 night thats preposterous.

@Narr thats because you are tall. Beginning tall though
Any 6'0 tall male is low tall and you are.
Amaze says on 31/May/15
175cm is not short and 190 does not start tall. True average is 178 for our generation and 175 for people 30-40 etc . 183 starts tall and 170 starts short. I only talk about height because taller height is better but it really doesn't matter LOL. I'm not insecure at all. I would never ever get leg limb lengthening ever even if I was shorter. 175cm ain't short at all its medium height
5'8/9/10 is medium height
5'7 is short last short height
5'11 is above average
6'0 is low tall
6'1 is legit TALL if you don't think 6'1 is tall your crazy
6'2/188 is strong tall lmao
Lol height is a pretty strong topic at school so don't act like you know loads of people I know talk about height. My dad especially and friends lol there's a lot of tall people in my school too.

You go may to uni which has taller people however thats not true true average is 175-178 above average is 179-80 tallish is 181-182 low tall begins at 183 if you do not think 6'1 and above is tall then you're crazy I'm afraid. Also you were comparing human height to dbz saying oh 6'4 is 10/10 and stuff LOL and 175 is 1/10 and 183 is 5. After seeing that post you lost all credibility I'm afraid. 183 is a very very good height and you French guy are actually the one lacking in confidence. Everyone here knows you are the most insecure, getting limb lengthening at 182.5 night thats preposterous.
Uhoh says on 31/May/15
Those Scandinavian countries (Netherlands, alp's, Germans, Norwegians) They all get off trying to describe how tall their people are. I don't buy the 6'1" claim for Dutch people, maybe the kids hanging out getting high downtown Netherlands might be taller because certain places in every country in the world have taller or shorter condensed areas (that's why we have averages), but I don't think it's accurate outside that small community.
Amaze says on 31/May/15
@John You write english very well. you are an intelligent person too
ofcourse. 6'7 is far too tall and comfort is affected. 5'8 is an alright height but i wouldnt say its perfect. at 12 when you were this height you were taller than everyone peers and family so you felt good. but i've been 173 for awhile and i wont grow anymore well i doubt it it's not short however it's not tall and its on lower-weak side of average and you end up feeling short alot of the time. i'm 18 now and i wish i was atleast 178 or 5'10 but 5'9 is fine too. when you look around, you feel like your too short. i'm suprised why you grew so much when you have a short father/mother/brother and you turned out 6'7. height isnt important but however some girls reject boys for being too short, and apparently taller people are more successful in the work place get more respect and stuff. height is only related to beauty e.g. a taller man looks better e.g. a 6'0 guy looks better than a 5'7 guy body wise but a 6'0 guy obviously beats a 6'6 guy. too tall or too short sucks.

i agree perfect height ideal is between us.. imo this is what i think
5'8 not bad not good
5'9 decent
5'10 nice
5'11 good
6'0 very good (ideal range)
6'1 very very good(ideal range)
6'2 verrrry good(ideal range)

6'0-6'1-6'2 imo is the best but if i could pick it would be 6ft2. comfortably tall and not too tall for anything
Ice says on 31/May/15
170-178 / - Short
179-185 - average

186-189 - tallish

190 - 193 - tall

194 - 199 - strong tall

200 - 209 - very tall

210 + - giant
SportsHeight says on 31/May/15
Rob, you've said that the average amount of daily height loss for a man is somewhere slightly below 2 cm, with the majority of this being front loaded. Could you map out for us precisely how this drop tends to be distributed over a typical 16-hour waking day? For example:

Straight out of bed: 0.0 cm lost (0%)
0-2 hours awake: ___ cm lost (__%)
2-4 hours: ___ cm lost (__%)
...
...
10-16 hours: ___ (0.2-0.3??) cm lost (last 10-20%)

Something like that -- however you want to do it, either by cm using the average or as percentages of anyone's daily height loss -- would be really interesting!
[Editor Rob: I found the graph from a research paper (it matches closely my own experiments) See Here.
That was data from a big sample recording their heights various times during the course of a full day. I believe it was conducted using a hospital setting to get the early measurement. So it's based on waking at say 7am.]
Amaze says on 30/May/15
Rob my chances of reaching 175cm are slim to none right now? I'm pretty much a 173/5'8 guy forever?
At 17 I was 170 then 17.5 I was 171. I measured on my 18th last week and I came up as 173 bang on.
To be honest our height is fine
Narr says on 30/May/15
lol, those comments though. I am 1,83m tall, even 1,84m in the morning, and although the Austrian average male height is 1,79m, I mostly feel tall.
french guy says on 30/May/15
there is something i don't get with amaze, he can't stop repeating height doesn't matter, but he is one of the most insecure person i know on the internet, even guys on the leg lenghtening forum seems to be more confident than him.
Secondly, he says that personality matters more than height, but has implied that it's normal to be praised when you're 6'0"-6'2" , and shorter guys should get less attention than taller guys.
Thirldy, he gives me the impression that everyone around him, friends and family, are used to talking about height without taboos, but seriously, people, even myself, are not used to talking about those things, you may ask someone's height, but you're not going to launch a debate about the perfect height for a guy, you will lool like an idiot and an insecure person.I'm sure he makes up stories in ordre to give him credit.
OneNamePlease says on 30/May/15
dinaric alps : average height At 17 YEARS OLD (185.6)
6ft guy says on 30/May/15
If I was meassurd at the doctor's at 187cm but when I go on boots bmi machines it says 185.9cm would this mean the doctor was wrong
Sam says on 30/May/15
A lot of the time people say 6ft2 is the perfect height, but I think the advantages diminish once you reach the 6ft benchmark and go any further. Say for example a 6ft male compared to a 6ft2 male, I'm pretty sure most women would be interested either way, with the 6ft2 guy maybe having the edge, but say a 5ft10 male compared to a 6ft male, the 5ft10 male is viewed as having more of a disadvantage in comparison, even though the difference is the same.
Emil 182 cm says on 30/May/15
@Daniel
Maybe you hold a good posture?
I'm 183 cm at lunch time, then at night I hit 182.2-182.6 cm.
My posture is quite horrible,so people usually estimate me at actual height. However, if I stand up straight, some people estimate me at around 185-187 cm.
grizz says on 30/May/15
@Daprez, Dinaric Alps is a region that consists of Dalmatia (part of Croatia), Herzegovina (western part of Bosnia&Herzegovina) and Montenegro. I have been only in Dalmatia, but that was years ago, way before I was "height aware". But I remember they were tall-how tall, I can't really tell.

But on my college there are a number of guys from this region. The shortest one is 5ft11, while we have 2 guys standing 6ft6 as the tallest from this region. Interestingly, they aren't the tallest ones because we have 2 guys (6ft7&6ft8) and they aren't from Dinaric Alps.

But it sure is common to say for a 5ft11 guy from that region that he's shortish. At 6ft2-6ft3 you're often regarded as tall (never in my life have I heard that a 6ft2 guy is "average"). Just like in other parts of Europe, even there you're at 6ft6 and over classified as giant.

To sum it up, the only difference is that, while in other European countries 5ft11 is a comfortably average height, in Dinaric Alps you'll feel a bit shorter than other guys.
french guy says on 30/May/15
according to statistics, the average height for young men is 178 cm, which means 15 % are taller than 185 cm, in short, for every guys you see in the street, only 4 or 5 are taller than 185 cm, that's just impossible.
Based on my experience the true average is 183 cm, 40 % are 185 cm or taller, sounds more realistic.190 cm is the start of legit tall, 175 cm is legit short
John says on 30/May/15
Amaze,

Definitely, I would rather be 5'8 than 6'7, honestly.
I am not condescending with you or with anyone else, really.
I have already been that height and that was just perfect. It was when Zack Effron was the most popular characcter in the world, and he was precisely 5'8, which was my brother's ambitioned height.
I was just 12 and that made me get mixed feelings: on the one hand I felt proud for being taken for an adult man, perfectly average on the street and taller than my seventeen-year-old brother and far taller than my father and even than my mother; but on the other I was just 12, my shoesize was already a UK 12/Eur 46, I was regarded as a young adult (about 18, 20 or even more), nobody believed I was the younger brother, and I was predicted to be a 'giant'. I assumed that, and I wore a suit and tie, and dress shoes, and I enjoyed that. I started dating my present girlfriend, who is four years older than me, and thought I was older than her.
At 5'8 I was the tallest person in my family, I felt tall in public places, I was a perfectly average man. The trouble was that I was not a man, I enjoyed the position but I was uncomfortable when people discoverd my age. My school-fellows looked just like little boys by me, and there was a certain lack of communication and companionship, because they saw me as an aduld man, and not a fellow child.
I think height is not important in termms of beauty, love, success, and let alone in professional terms (at least in Australia) unless you want to be either a basketballer or a jockey... but it changes the way you communicate with others if you are either too tal or too short. That I think is inevitable.
Anyway, I think your height is perfect. If you ask me what is the most perfect height for men, I would say I would have made both of us something in between our heights. I would say like the Hemsworth you mention. But that is not a tragedy nor even a drama... It's just an accident, not the essence of anything.
Amaze says on 29/May/15
@UhOh all the people who I knew took mj around 15-16 grew like crazy, 5'1/2 kid is now 5'8 at 18, 6'0 kid is now 6'4.5 at 18, 5'8 kid is now 6'0, 5'3 now 5'8.
Daprez says on 29/May/15
@anyone

The average height in the Dinaric Alps is 6 foot 1 inch or 185.6cm. I find it hard to believe a country can actually average such a high height. This means you have to be 6 foot 4 inches or more to actually be described as tall there and 5 foot 10 inches and under will be seen as short. Have any of you guys been there? i'm asking because i plan to go there, possibly next summer. Thanks.
Julls says on 29/May/15
Hey Rob, I decided to do a test with a scale-o-meter and found that I lost a full 1/8 of an inch from 3:30pm-10:30pm (height lost after my first seven hours out of bed). Do you think this is a normal amount of height loss for a person after their first seven hours out of bed? Or above average?
[Editor Rob: it's pretty common. 2-3mm from say lunch till evening. You are lucky if you barely lose anything, maybe a bit unlucky if you continually shrank 1/4-1/3rd inch, that would be an awful lot after lunch.

But if you were wakening up at 9-10am then it would make sense. If you wake at 7am then a couple mm is common.]
grizz says on 29/May/15
@Chinese2015, your claims are ridiculous. Out of curiosity, I once browsed one Chinese dating site. And most chicks described 5'11 as great height, 6ft as perfect height and anything over 6'1 as too much.

Secondly,people have really poor idea on how tall 180 cm really is. It's because many 175-178cm guys lie about their height and claim 180 cm. So,girls see a "180 cm" guy (actually 175 cm) and,normally,they aren't very impressed. So, a legit 5'11 guy will have no trouble winnning over Asian girls and it definitely isn't borderline acceptable height.
Charon540 says on 29/May/15
So Rob, a question for a height guess. So I'm 5'9".5, so if you're looking straight at the center or upper part of her forehead. I have a 22 cm skull and my eye range is 4.25 in. How tall would she be?
[Editor Rob: could be 5ft 7.5-8, somewhere between that zone.]
Amaze says on 29/May/15
@Crane are you crazy why would you wanna grow anymore if anything half a cm would be good getting you to get 6'4 but you're height is good ATM you don't need to grow anymore anything you could lose some

Height should only matter to taller girls but peesonality hunour looks etc matter way more
UhOh says on 29/May/15
Once marijuana is fully legal in the starts people in the Netherlands will begin to shrink from insignificance. (just kidding)
truth says on 29/May/15
Young Chinese are the taller the second tallest mongoloids (asians) with 172cm, tallest are Koreans with 173cm, third the Japanese with 170cm. The rest are all sub 170cm. What is funny is that I am a 178cm white guy and I never feel short, despite young white guys averaging 180cm here in Slovenia so just lower average range. Chinese women are just clueless when it comes to height I guess, a 180cm tall man looks like a father next to small 155cm young looking asian woman. Most women just want a guy a few inches taller than them though here, 170cm looks tall enough next to women under 160cm. My minimum requirement for a female is 162/163cm up to 180cm, I want my sons not to be midgets and at least over 175cm.
Perception says on 28/May/15
@Chinese2015
In America, girls have even higher standards at least based on what they say on online forums. They all seem to want 183 cm minimum. 185 cm is probably the most preferred in America. It's a good thing if indeed 180 cm (5'11") is the minimum standard to attract a Chinese girl. You're lucky they're not making the cutoff point 185-188 cm.
Tom says on 28/May/15
@Chinese2015

You can not make ordinary people or girls to think about the standard of height by database. Yes, the average of Chinese new generation is only 172, but girls do not care about that so-called statistics, they just think that above 180cm is criteria of boyfriend or husband. Generally, if you visit Chinese campus, you may observe that tall Chinese(180+) can hook up girls so easily, and it is difficult that short Chinese guys can find a girlfriend, unless you have a rich father.

I have to say that database is not the same as daily life. Most people in the world do not care about so-called statistics of average height.

I completely agree with your point that an overwhelming majority do not take into account or even care for the statistics but these can not be ignored as they are ultimately the soul principle on defining what is or isn't tall in a certain country. My problem is that hardly anyone can guess height very well, particularly women, who are known to be terrible at judging height. Most girls are going to be disappointed as not many (10% or less) will meet this criteria. When speaking about criteria you make it sound as if you are under 180cm say goodbye to ever getting a girlfriend? Is height the most important factor for girls in China when 'seeking out' a potential mate? In the country where i am from (UK) as long as your not several inches below average height it is not the biggest factor.
Emil 182 cm says on 28/May/15
@Rob
Measured 182.6 the other night at 2 am. However, I can drop to 182.2 if I have had a very active day.
I guess I am what you consider a weak 6 ft
[Editor Rob: yes I'd put you into that category.]
OneNamePlease says on 28/May/15
Hey Rob I am a legit 185.42 cm at my
very lowest. Is that a good height? Am I tall? Sometimes I see guys my height or taller and I dont feel tall. Must be relativity.
[Editor Rob: it's a preferred height that many men would gladly take. Many who are short would bite your hand off to be that height.

I think people at 6ft 1 are tall, but they will still see a good chunk their height or taller, and sometimes that sticks in the mind. All the 5ft 7-11 guys you walk by don't register as much as say the 6ft 3 or 4 guy you just walked by...if that makes sense? Our minds sometimes give prominence to the larger and filter out or ignore the smaller.]
OneNamePlease says on 28/May/15
Hey Rob what does a 3 and 4 inch height difference look like?
[Editor Rob: this is a 3 inch exact difference with a Girl and me.]
Crane says on 28/May/15
I wonder.. Is it possible for me to reach 6'6 ? I'm 192.56 cm. 19 years old. So Mr.Rob ?
[Editor Rob: I'd say it was unlikely, if you did reach it you'd have done very well at 19-20 to gain near 2 inches. ]
Chinese2015 says on 28/May/15
Tom says on 26/May/15
@Chinese2015 There is a saying in my country -- China: For new generation, Any man is below 180cm is "grade 2 disability.

Considering the average height for a Chinese man is 5'7 i do find you statement hard to believe. The new generation is most likely to average 5'8 tops. Being 5'11 (180cm)that would be roughly 90th percentile (with average at 5'11) meaning only 10% of Chinese people are above 180cm. Being 5'11 in China (4 inches above average) is the equivalent to being 6'2 in say the Uk Or US. Considering the average Chinese girl is 5'2.5 i think they need to get down off their high, sorry low horses. I am 5'11 in the uk and the majority of the time i get described as tall even though im only slightly taller than average.

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You can not make ordinary people or girls to think about the standard of height by database. Yes, the average of Chinese new generation is only 172, but girls do not care about that so-called statistics, they just think that above 180cm is criteria of boyfriend or husband. Generally, if you visit Chinese campus, you may observe that tall Chinese(180+) can hook up girls so easily, and it is difficult that short Chinese guys can find a girlfriend, unless you have a rich father.

I have to say that database is not the same as daily life. Most people in the world do not care about so-called statistics of average height.
Daniel says on 27/May/15
Im slightly under 188cm in the morning, 186cm through out the day,and 185cm at night. I feel pretty tall. i mean I do see guys that are taller than me sometimes,but for the most part,i'd say I tower over 95% of the people that I see. I wear shoes like Vans which give no height near all the time,and still feel comfortably tall. And if I wear running or my Timberland boots, I feel really tall. Most people actually guess me at 6'3-6'4. I can get away with claiming the 190-193 cm range easily. I have friends who are near the 6'4 range who believed that I was 6'3. But I'm actually 6'1. Most people are shocked when they find out that Im only 6'1. But I'm 17,so I hope I actually can reach the legit 6'3-6'4 range.
totigno says on 27/May/15
Alex says on 26/May/15
5'9 is a little short I'm 5'8.5 without shoes and I feel pretty short
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i don't
Arch Stanton says on 27/May/15
Cudmore I guess looks good at 6 ft 7, a rare case, but he's too tall for comfort in my opinion.
182 cm evening height says on 27/May/15
A word on the effect of dairy/milk?

Various studies show that big milk drinkers grow more than those who don't drink milk, sometimes significantly so.
Amaze says on 27/May/15
180 is just lower average in Netherlands
178 is below average but not short in Netherlands
I'd say 5'9 is the start of short in Netherlands for men even though it actually isnt a short height LOL

6'0,5'11, 5'10 is even tall in China. Quit the BS.

6'0 is tall everywhere cept scandavnavia where its only tallish e.g. Netherlands Denmark etc

@Arch Stanton I agree, but hes pushed a bit over the limit IMO, 193-194cm are alright, Jared padalecki or David hasselhof are thevmax tbh. Calvin looks a bit stretched and I think he said he would wanna be shorter. 193-194cm are Max tbh. 195-196+ has pushed it but its the absolute Max
197-198+ start of too tall for sure. You're also 2m in shoes!

If Calvin was 10cm shorter he'd be perfectheight and your height too
john says on 27/May/15
Is that ok to assume autopsy type measurement at late night is the most accurate way to determine someones height? Reply please
[Editor Rob: it is accurate, but I still feel standing means your body is in the natural position to be measured.]
Arch stanton says on 27/May/15
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 24/May/15
List of celebrities who get a lot of women from what I've noticed:

How? Half of those are married and are known for being straight family guys like Jackman and Hemsworth. Dolphins Lungren LOL. The one celeb guy which always springs to mind as having lots of women you've not mentioned is Gerard Butler!!!
Bryan says on 27/May/15
Is it unusual for a 189cm guy to claim 194cm ??
Amaze says on 26/May/15
Kevin costner be the luckiest guy out there
From 165cm to 185cm in one year(5'5 to 6'1)
18-19 years old
OneNamePlease says on 26/May/15
Hey Rob, what does a 1 inch height difference look like?
[Editor Rob: here, I tried to replicate an exact inch difference with me/jenny Click Here, the boot I'm in is exactly a 1-inch style.]
6ftMagician says on 26/May/15
Had a 6'3'' legit Chinese migrant I met here in London. Somehow the topic of height came up, and he literally said he is referred to as''a mountain'' from friends/family in China. He was about 230lbs (quite chubby). Was the school's best B-Ball player too apparently (like 15,000+ students according to him).

Obviously this is anecdotal, so believe what you want. In everyday life, I've plenty of Chinese friends, and they tend to average closer to 170cm. Just an observation.

As for 180 being the cut-off. You're right, all these 6'5'' giants these days... I hear they are going to stop manufacturing any jeans length less than 30 next year.
Tom says on 26/May/15
@Chinese2015 There is a saying in my country -- China: For new generation, Any man is below 180cm is "grade 2 disability.

Considering the average height for a Chinese man is 5'7 i do find you statement hard to believe. The new generation is most likely to average 5'8 tops. Being 5'11 (180cm)that would be roughly 90th percentile (with average at 5'11) meaning only 10% of Chinese people are above 180cm. Being 5'11 in China (4 inches above average) is the equivalent to being 6'2 in say the Uk Or US. Considering the average Chinese girl is 5'2.5 i think they need to get down off their high, sorry low horses. I am 5'11 in the uk and the majority of the time i get described as tall even though im only slightly taller than average.
Arch Stanton says on 26/May/15
Somebody like Calvin Harris I think is the absolute max of what can look good.
Arch Stanton says on 26/May/15
Yeah 6'5" MAX, above that and it's too tall, especially over 2 metres!!
Alex says on 26/May/15
5'9 is a little short I'm 5'8.5 without shoes and I feel pretty short
Poverty 6ft (182 cm evening height) says on 26/May/15
@Chinese2015

Sounds like gas to me, I'm afraid.

When the CDC has the average height of a young American male at 5 ft 10 (which is coincidently the same as the UK and a few other European countries), I'm not going to start calling 180-183cm average.

Also, 19 year old Mainland Chinese males average 5 ft 8. The Chinese are not a tall people. Literally the only country where someone could be remotely considered 'short' at 180cm is the Netherlands and, even there, 180cm wouldn't be legit short.
184.3cm (Night) says on 26/May/15
Chinese2015 says on 22/May/15
I was surprise that many people thought 175cm is OK and 190cm is very tall here. There is a saying in my country --China: For new generation, Any man is below 180cm is "grade 2 disability". Of course, it is very rude. But a lot of people think that it is criteria , especially many Chinese girls would say it in front of your face if you are under 180cm.

Considering West youths are usually taller than Chinese youngest, I am shocked your standard of height is much lower than we Chinese.

187-190 low tall
191-195 tall

Your winding us up right? I have friends in the 191-195 range and chinese people refer to them as giants.
Sam says on 26/May/15
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM, at least 6 of the dudes you mention are pretty ordinary happily married guys with kids.
Keny says on 26/May/15
Hi Rob, I am a 16 year 2 month old male and my morning height is 177.8CM (Almost 5'10) and my lowest height is 175.8CM I claim myself as 176CM is that ok? or should I claim 5'9.. Do you think I have a chance to reach 6 feet?
[Editor Rob: there's time still, if you reached 6ft I'd say you should be happy to gain nearly 3 inches more.
I'd stick with 176cm just now.]
Amaze says on 25/May/15
Remember when considering height yes taller is better but you gotta think about the following
-fitting in cars
-comfort
-clothes
-being too tall for most girls
-doorways
-looking freakishly tall
-harder to make gains in body building
-standing out (some may or may not like this, but I personally would despise looking at me like I'm some sort of alien giant.

6'3 and 4 are good heights but have drawbacks. 6'5 is near too tall but 6'4/5 is human limit tbh. 6'0-6'1-6'2 has the reign.
WishIWasTaller says on 25/May/15
@Chinese2015
I hear about 5'10 guys feeling legit tall in China so I find that a little hard to believe.
If anyone could give some clarity on if he's correct or not?
SportsHeight says on 25/May/15
Rob, two questions about high heels for women. How much height is added from: a.) a typical pair of heels; b.) the highest pair that a woman would typically have in her closet (and perhaps wear on a semi-regular basis)?
[Editor Rob: unfortunately today there's not so much typical, as I see many ladies out on the town with big platform heels...but you have typical sizes, on the lower range (non platform) I can show you 3 types of heels and the actual height they give. I measured these many years ago with my sister who is size 5.5-6uk.

This heel is on the small side, about 2 inches of height: Click Here

This one is very common type, a size I see a lot of office workers wearing. In 2.5 inches range: Click Here

This is a kind of medium heel today, it still gives 3.1 inches. Many women would wear this to events, nights out. It's high, but doesn't have a platform really (well about 1cm really). Click Here

I need some good knowledge of this kind of stuff as many women celebrities I meet are of course wearing heels of various sizes, many of them are platform, so those are kinds to get you over 3 inches and up to 4, sometimes more even.]
french guy says on 25/May/15
@183cm

we are free to discuss about what we want, aren't we? this page is a free for all, it's written at the top of the page, as long as i'm polite, i'm right to express my feeling and thoughts.


"I usually tell myslef is if someone has me beat in one category im confident my other qualities ill will beat him"

So basically, when someone is taller you, you tell yourself you beat him because you have other qualities, but on the other hand i guess you don't know the person, so you can't know his own qualities...You know, it's the kind of mentality i try to avoid because it leads to low self esteem and anxiety.
6ft guy says on 25/May/15
Where should 5ft9 come to me and is the forehead half a inch of your height
Tom96 says on 25/May/15
Hi Rob, what would you say is the perfect height for a guy living in London ?
[Editor Rob: a desirable height? If you want to feel tall and don't like looking up at people then 6ft 3 would be a comfortably tall height in that city.

But some people have a personality that means they don't want to stand out, they might want to be tall but not have too many eyes on them so 6ft range might be ideal for a guy like that. The taller you get, the more people notice you...in a way, some people's personalities might not be suited to that.]
183cm says on 25/May/15
@muller
Are you serious. You come as very insecure seriously. If you think being tall will suddenly gift you all women cmon. Instead of asking such questions yoi should better

@6ftmagician
the french guy just baffles me. Limb lengthening, unless you like 5ft5 and below makes no sense. Cannot believe someone would actyally sacrifice their legs for that stuff. People need to get their priorities right. Another suggesting height is more important than looks, personality e.t.c. one thing I usually tell myslef is if someone has me beat in one category im confident my other qualities ill will beat him. Might come of as confident or a little arrogant but people should realise their many factors you can influence
french guy says on 24/May/15
I'm also not sure that girls know what "grade 2 disability" means, even myself didn't know...I have just written it on google, that's a medical term, isn't it?
Anyway, if you re really itsmylife (which i strongly suspect, you got there just after i mentioned this website on the forum) i can tell you that my plans are maintained :p
french guy says on 24/May/15
chinese2015, you remind me itsmylife from the ll forum, maybe it's you....?
However, i can tell you the average height for a young chinese is no more than 173 cm , i have been a lot in the chinese district, young chinese i see on a daily basis are shorter than me, the tallest are usually 185-186 cm.Btw you asian should stop sizing up caucasian men, it's getting embarassing.
Andrew says on 24/May/15
Hi Rob. Just a quick question, how high would the eyeline of a 6ft person be?
[Editor Rob: somewhere in 5ft 7.25-5ft 7.5 range would be common. If it was near 5ft 7 then the person has a low eyelevel, if nearer 4-4.25 range a quite high eyelevel.]
OneNamePlease says on 24/May/15
I am 6'2, but for me, 5'8 is normal or more.
OneNamePlease says on 24/May/15
Hey Rob, I am 6'1". What is the average inseam, leg length, and shoe size for someone who is 6'1"?
[Editor Rob: you are looking at 32-3 range inseam, maybe size 10.5-11us]
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 24/May/15
List of celebrities who get a lot of women from what I've noticed:

1. Chris Evans-He's a legit 6'0".
2. Channing Tatum-He's around 6'1".
3. Chris Hemsworth-6'3", or a bit under.
4. Liam Hemsworth-6'3", or a bit under.
5. Ryan Gosling-6'0.5"
6. Bradley Cooper-6'0.75"-6'1"
7. Henry Cavill-Nearly 6'1"
8. Robert Pattinson-6'0.5"-6'0.75" in person
9. David Beckham-A bit above 5'11".
10. Cristiano Ronaldo-Barely above 6'1".
11. James Franco-Around 5'11".
12. Dave Franco-Around 5'6" in person.
13. Zac Efron-He's taller than 5'8" for sure. He's only 4 inches shorter than John Cusack.
14. Robert Downey Jr.-A bit above 5'8".
15. Matthew McConaughey-A bit above 5'11". He's a tallish actor.
16. Russell Crowe-5'10.5".
17. Hugh Jackman-6'1.5"-6'1.75".
18. Ryan Reynolds-6'2"
19. Paul Rudd-5'9.25"
20. Kellan Lutz
21. Daniel Craig-5'10.25"
22. Taylor Lautner
23. Johnny Depp-He appears taller than 5'9" by Sacha Baron Cohen.
24. Orlando Bloom-5'10.5"
25. Leonardo Dicaprio-5'11.5"-5'11.75"
26. Christian Bale-5'11.75"-6'0"
27. Vin Diesel
28. The Rock-6'2.5"-6'2.75"
29. Matt Damon-5'10"
30. Jude Law-5'11.25"
31. Shemar Moore-6'0.5"
32. Jensen Ackles-6'0" range.
33. Daniel Radcliffe-5'5.5"
34. Pierce Brosnan-6'1" range (not 6'2")
35. Michael B. Jordan-5'11" range for sure.
36. Dolphins Lungren-6'5"
37. Scott Adkins-5'10.5"
38. Eric Bana-6'1.75" in person. I think that I was the same height as him actually. The eye level was exactly the same. He's definitely not past 6'2".

Most are below 6'1".
james b says on 24/May/15
last night I went to a packed out nightclub in my local town and saw a fair amount of guys who were around 6'5 or near to it including 2 of the doorman in the club.

put it this way I have a friend who is a legit 6'3 and he was shorter than a fair few guys. that night.

didn't see any 6'7 guys though

I live in the uk
6ftMagician says on 24/May/15
Lmao so hilarious seeing you guys quibble about women. You sound very secure with yourselves.
littlesue says on 24/May/15
I'm 5'9 and my brother is 5'11.5.-5'11.75 and yet he gets plenty of compliments on his height despite only be 2 inches taller. Can 2 inches really make that big of a difference?

Lol, 'said the actress to the Bishop'
Darren510 says on 24/May/15
6'1.5 just does not cut it to qualify being strong tall. That would mean 6'2 is starting to enter very tall range. 6'2 is strong tall. Very tall is 6'3-6'4 range...agree 6'0 is tall. 5'11 is getting tall, but just shy of the border.
184.3cm (Night) says on 23/May/15
Thats because your brother is 2 inches above average while your right in the average zone in many countries. Someone who is taller even so slightly than average will get tall comments especially from women.
Tom says on 23/May/15
I get described as tall all the time, even by those who are taller than me. I am 5'11 and my best friend is a legit 6'2 and he thinks im 6'1. The majority of the people have no concept of how tall people really are. That coupled with the fact that average heights are most definitely overstated (at my height im easily taller than the majority) its then quite easy to see why people dont think 6ft is tall when it clearly is. If you take the Cdc's US height percentile they have average at a 2.54mm over 5'9.5. This is for 2-20 year olds so average is no doubt at least 0.5 inches less if not more. True average isnt more than 5'9.
french guy says on 23/May/15
my dbz chart was another way to rank height, vegito is not 193 cm but he is the strongest of all dbz characters, which means 193 cm is the perfect height
I ll restart again:
-193 cm=10/10
-191 cm=9/10
-189 cm=8/10
-187 cm=7/10
-185 cm=6/10
-183 cm=5/10
-181 cm=4/10
-179 cm=3/10
-177 cm=2/10
-175 cm=1/10
Chinese2015 says on 22/May/15
Poverty 6ft (182 cm evening height) says on 21/May/15
@Muller

There are too many variables at play. How well does the shorter guy dress? How much more attractive is their personality/lifestyle/persona?

Assuming everything else is equal apart from looks and height, the better looking 6 ft guy would win out most times since, from the 5 ft 5 perspective of the average girl, there isn't a big difference between a 6ft guy and a 6 ft 2 guy. If the girl was 5 ft 11, she would probably prefer the 6 ft 2 guy.

Thing is, the further you go above 5 ft 11, the less height matter to the average girl. I'm already significantly taller than the average girl so I don't see a 6 ft 1 guy having a significant advantage over me.

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No offense, but I have to say n my country--China, for young girls. If a guy is 180cm and other guy is 186cm, as far as I know, 90% Chinese girls would choose the taller one. No matter how smart or humor the shorter one is.
Chinese2015 says on 22/May/15
I was surprise that many people thought 175cm is OK and 190cm is very tall here. There is a saying in my country --China: For new generation, Any man is below 180cm is "grade 2 disability". Of course, it is very rude. But a lot of people think that it is criteria , especially many Chinese girls would say it in front of your face if you are under 180cm.

Considering West youths are usually taller than Chinese youngest, I am shocked your standard of height is much lower than we Chinese.

I thought new generation should be like this in West World.
<170cm very short
170-174cm short
175-179cm slightly short
180-183cm normal height
184-186 tallish
187-190 low tall
191-195 tall
196-200 too tall
201-205 very tall
206-210 extraordinary tall
210+ giant
Chinese2015 says on 22/May/15
Laf says on 20/May/15
Chart of Scandinavia, Germany and the Baltic countries:

5'4 and under = very very short
5'5-5'6 = very short
5'7-5'8 = short
5'9 = shortish/under average
5'10-5'11 = average
6' = tallish/over average
6'1-6'2 = tall
6'3-6'4 = very tall
6'5 and taller = very very tall/giant

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I don't think 6'5 is giant in Scandinavia or Germany. Maybe so tall, but not a giant.
Poverty 6ft (182 cm evening height) says on 22/May/15
@WishIWasTaller

2 inches can appear more significant depending on the height.

Going from 5ft6 to 5ft8 or going from 6ft2 to 6ft4 doesn't move you up too many percentiles but 5 ft 9 and 5 ft 11 are either side of average so the difference would generally be perceived as a bit bigger. You're below average while your brother is above average.

Remember that height is normally distributed (bell curve), which is why growing from 5 ft 9 to 5 ft 11 is a bigger 'boost' than growing from 5 ft 7 to 5 ft 9, for example.
172.4cm guy says on 22/May/15
In terms of the height scale that is based on my own perceptions between men and women, this is how I would characterize the relative heights and appearances among the general U.S. population:

For Men
Percentile Inches Centim. Description
>1 61.0 or less 157.9 or less Small Person
1 61.1-64 158-164.9 Very Short
5 64.1-67 165-169.9 Short
32 67.1-69 170-174.9 Short Average
50 69.1-70 175-177.9 Average
68 70.1-72 178-182.9 Tall Average (Women Love this Height!)
95 72.1-75 183-190.9 Tall
99 75.1-78 191-197.9 Very Tall
100 78.1 or more 198 or more Giant


For Women
Percentile Inches Centim. Description
>1 58.0 or less 146.9 or less Small Person
1 58.1-60 147-151.9 Very Short
5 60.1-62 152-156.9 Short
32 62.1-64 157-162.9 Short Average (Men Love this Height!)
50 64.1-66 163-167.9 Average
68 66.1-68 168-172.9 Tall Average
95 68.1-70 173-177.9 Tall
99 70.1-72 178-182.9 Very Tall
100 72.1 or more 183 or more Giant
FiveNine says on 22/May/15
@WishIWasTaller
Your at a good height at 5'9...l went to a sock-hop without footware and 5'9 pretty much towers over average females. There were lots of females 2 inches shorter than the average 5'4 and I was 7 inches taller than they were...the fact is being 7 inches taller than many females denotes 5'9 as a very good height. If your friends continue to compliment your 5'11.5 brother then I say '...dont pay any attention to that man behind the curtian...' (Saying from the movie Wizard of OZ)
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FiveNine says on 22/May/15
@WishIWasTaller
Your at a good height at 5'9...l went to a sock-hop without footware and 5'9 pretty much towers over average females. There were lots of females 2 inches shorter than the average 5'4 and I was 7 inches taller than they were...the fact is being 7 inches taller than many females denotes 5'9 as a very good height. If your friends continue to compliment your 5'11.5 brother then I say '...dont pay any attention to that man behind the curtian...' (Saying from the movie Wizard of OZ)
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Amaze says on 22/May/15
@WishIWasTaller its not 2 inches its a near 3 inch difference! Ofcourse you can notice and your height is average while your brother is a tallish guy. His height is like 8.5 while yours is like 6/10(5'9 flat you are) 175cm to 182cm difference. His height is near ideal and hes only slightly shorter than 6ft. Your height is fine tbh. But ur Bros is better
Perfect height says on 22/May/15
@WishIWasTaller

Definitely. In fact the closer you are to the average, the more every inch of height difference matters. 5'9" is 41st percentile and 5'11.5-5'11.75 is roughly 75-77.5th percentile. Even though it's only two inches it's the difference between being weakish average and above average/tallish in a social setting. If you and your brother had the same height difference but deviated more from the average, say 6'4" and 6'6.5" the difference wouldn't matter as much because you would both be perceived as very tall >99th percentile.
Amaze says on 22/May/15
@poverty I agree with what you said
Muller 6'0 guy would win simple unless the giwas like 5'11/6'
Josh says on 22/May/15
@Muller, i think if you have looks like lets say Dave Franco who is barely 5'6 or Zac Efron, height isnt that important (looks are for sure more important) but its all relative, woman have different tastes, some women for sure only want tall guys but there are also women who dont really care if the guy is 1 inch taller or 6 inches or whatever or even a little bit shorter. So in my opinion unless you are really short (in my opinion 5'5 or under) good looking short guys (5'6, 5'7, 5'8) should not have much trouble when it comes to woman since many woman are shorter than that. Its my opinion you dont have to agree ;) and yeah dont get me wrong of course a tall handsome dude wins it all but nobody is perfect :), i'm 5'9.5 by the way
JJF says on 22/May/15
Sort of agree @ Poverty 6ft.

But I’d say it’s lower - 5’9” is what I’d call the ‘cut-off’ when it comes to attraction where men are concerned, because once you are at or near average height is no longer the real issue concerning instant attraction.
Looks, style, charisma and yes – money/power are the things that will determine instant attraction, far more than height. Don’t say it isn’t true please, because I’ve experienced it first hand.

Up your dress style (to look like you have a better bank balance), act more confident and work out a few times a week – do these things and, unless you are genuinely the ‘unlucky’ kind of short, you WILL have a far easier time appealing to the women/girls. But more importantly – you will FEEL better about YOURSELF.
Confidence drives success, even when it is just external confidence – nobody can tell the difference. Look your best, hell – just project fake confidence if you have to - and you will automatically feed your own success.

I know quite a few average height & ‘short’ bad-asses with style who date an obscene amount of girls - I don’t, however, know ANY 6ft+ average ‘Joes’ who do the same…
Tom96 says on 22/May/15
WishIWasTaller says on 21/May/15
I'm 5'9 and my brother is 5'11.5.-5'11.75 and yet he gets plenty of compliments on his height despite only be 2 inches taller. Can 2 inches really make that big of a difference?

Adding 2 inches when you're roughly average makes a big difference since there are a lot of guys around your height
SportsHeight says on 21/May/15
Rob, there are a lot of guys out there who don't regularly stretch or exercise, don't sleep much -- maybe 5.5 or 6 hours on average -- and are chronically dehydrated. How much height would you estimate these men stand to gain, on average, from stretching and exercising on a daily basis, getting 7-8+ hours of sleep a night, and hydrating themselves fully? This question does not pertain to improving posture and trying to appear taller. I'm more interested in what the anatomical difference in height is based on stretching/exercise/sleep/diet/hydration. How much of an impact, if any, does it have (numerically), and does it have more of an impact on peak morning height, amount of shrinkage throughout the day, or both?
[Editor Rob: If you are dehydrated in general then your body is using some water content from soft tissues.

But something I've not mentioned before - I think a combination of stretching/exercise helps all the soft tissues in your body so that they are able to rehydrate properly. If you don't do some of this, then maybe your soft-tissues aren't being hydrated as well as they could.

For some people maybe this combination could account for 1/3rd of an inch or even a bit more if they are coming from a physical state that is weak and can progress to a fitter overall health.
]
james b says on 21/May/15
nothing jaw dropping about 6'2
6fthunkofchunk says on 21/May/15
6'2 is solidly tall in the US and the large majority of countries minus the lowly populated Nordic ones. I live in Austin and the tallest guy ive seen was 6'5 and I've only seen one. 6'3 is when your height becomes a defining feature and at 6'2 you'll noticeably taller but not to an exceptional point.
WishIWasTaller says on 21/May/15
I'm 5'9 and my brother is 5'11.5.-5'11.75 and yet he gets plenty of compliments on his height despite only be 2 inches taller. Can 2 inches really make that big of a difference?
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover says on 21/May/15
188cm out of bed - tall (Pierce Brosnan, Will Smith, Jim Carrey)
188cm before bed - strong tall (John Cusack, Lance Reddick, Jack Coleman)
Poverty 6ft (182 cm evening height) says on 21/May/15
@Muller

There are too many variables at play. How well does the shorter guy dress? How much more attractive is their personality/lifestyle/persona?

Assuming everything else is equal apart from looks and height, the better looking 6 ft guy would win out most times since, from the 5 ft 5 perspective of the average girl, there isn't a big difference between a 6ft guy and a 6 ft 2 guy. If the girl was 5 ft 11, she would probably prefer the 6 ft 2 guy.

Thing is, the further you go above 5 ft 11, the less height matter to the average girl. I'm already significantly taller than the average girl so I don't see a 6 ft 1 guy having a significant advantage over me.
JJF says on 21/May/15
@ Muller, to be honest you'd have to go pretty 'short' to negate the appeal of a handsome fella'.

Strictly speaking physically here - with all other things being equal - A good looking guy will always have the edge with the ladies, unless he is genuinely short (I'd say 5'6" or shorter).

I honestly cannot see a 6'2" average guy with no particularly handsome features being more attractive to women than a 5'8" adonis if they both have a good sense of humour and are strong characters.
Kourosh says on 21/May/15
Is this guy serious? Click Here

growing from 5'6 to solid 5'11 ??? so basically he grew 5 inches in his adulthood life.

I believe this scumbag got paid tones of money from the grow taller 4 idiots to to make a fake testimonial to promote their program and delude more people. SCAMMERS!

i love how they never use the full body shot when they want to compare their old heights with new one.
[Editor Rob: I did a video talking about That fella.]
Poverty 6ft (182 cm evening height) says on 21/May/15
@Muller

There are too many variables at play. How well does the shorter guy dress? How much more attractive is their personality/lifestyle/persona?

Assuming everything else is equal apart from looks and height, the better looking 6 ft guy would win out most times since, from the 5 ft 5 perspective of the average girl, there isn't a big difference between a 6ft guy and a 6 ft 2 guy. If the girl was 5 ft 11, she would probably prefer the 6 ft 2 guy.

Thing is, the further you go above 5 ft 11, the less height matter to the average girl. I'm already significantly taller than the average girl so I don't see a 6 ft 1 guy having a significant advantage over me.
Kenny says on 21/May/15
Hey Rob do you think 5'9 (175-176CM) is short for a 16.1 year old. And what are the odds of reaching 6 feet at that height?
[Editor Rob: no, it is average at 16, if you get to 5ft 10-10.5 range that too will be average range for 18-30 year old.]
6fthunkofchunk says on 20/May/15
@Rob
Hey Rob what's your trick for perfect posture? I feel like my is decent enough but when I'm walking i feel like I'm leaning back to much. Laid back strut :P.
[Editor Rob: there's not a trick really, but maybe doing a series of simple exercises and stretches to help with your back and core muscle groups. So standing near your max is effortless and without forcing it.

If you signed up for a course in alexander technique, that includes working on natural posture and training.]
6ftMagician says on 20/May/15
@Poverty6ft. I think you can claim 6ft no worries. As long as you touch the height you claim at some point during the day (even just an hour first thing upon waking) then you are entitled to claim it. Having said that, I can touch 185.Xcm in the morning but will probably stick with 6'0'' as I am 184/183 range for the remainder of the day.
PEigler says on 20/May/15
It is interesting that the infoboxes of W.ikipedia articles pertaining to basketball players always use the formulation "listed height", while for all other sportspeople (footballers, volleyball players, tennis stars, etc.) it simply says "height".

Examples:

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I wonder whether this is a tacit admission that basketballers' heights tend not to be accurately recorded or it is simply more difficult for non-experts to measure the precise heights of people who are over 2.00 m tall. I believe that the professional NBA players are likely to be honest about their heights (the vast majority of them are far above the human average). Your thoughts on this discrepancy?

Thank you in advance for any responses!
Lillo Thomas says on 20/May/15
Meh 6'2 isn't very tall in countries like USA. 6'2 is regular tall.
totigno says on 20/May/15
grizz says on 18/May/15
totigno, I don't know where you live, but describing 5ft8 as a common height for young men is laughable. I have met maybe 2 guys with that height and they are the shortest peers I know of.
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and if i tell you that from all my friends , 5ft7-5ft10 is the most common height , and we are all 22-32 years old
shortest 5ft4
tallest 6ft2
most are under 5ft11 ( 5ft7-5ft10 majority of them)

that's concerning my friends
when i went to hight school and university ( at 6ft2 they stand out and get comments for their height ( 5ft8-6' was the norm) so 5ft8 is not unusual even for young men , that's not silly to call average that's not so far from 5ft9-5ft10 , which most people think as average height) that's not a huge height difference .
but 5ft7 and under is not average that's right i never heard of that

for your information , i am 175-177 cm ( 5'9- 5'9.5) and most people think i am about 180 cm , a friend of mine when i told him i was 177cm , replied you're not 177cm , i told him what height do you think i am ? around my height 179-180cm . most people can't judge height and some people claim taller that their height.

183cm says on 18/May/15
I think thats a good listing although I see that girls below 5ft8 really like 5ft11 range and above like 6ft2 range. Personally from what ive seen majority of girls key word majority like 5ft11-6ft range, because of one thing many people fail to see majority of girls are 5ft3-6 range. Id say anyhting above 191-3cm is not common. Though ive seen a 6ft10 or so guy. And if 180cm were average its inposssible malemodellling agency would put this as a requiremnt. 5ft11 range is so underrated here yet male models have to at least be this and most girls if there average was equal to statiatics, id bet it would be close between 180 and 183cm.
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here people think taller the better , in real life most people i know
think it's not necessary to be very tall and when you are 5ft11 -6ft1 for a guy your height is ideal because you can do almost anything with that height modelling , sports , and girls tend to love that range because you're tall but not too tall for most girls but you're right taller girls like 6ft2+ guys but most girls are 5ft3-5ft6.
Laf says on 20/May/15
Chart of Scandinavia, Germany and the Baltic countries:

5'4 and under = very very short
5'5-5'6 = very short
5'7-5'8 = short
5'9 = shortish/under average
5'10-5'11 = average
6' = tallish/over average
6'1-6'2 = tall
6'3-6'4 = very tall
6'5 and taller = very very tall/giant
Rifle says on 20/May/15
How tall do you think the taller guy is if the shorter guy is between 6'1" & 6'2"?

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Amaze says on 20/May/15
6'0 is defo tall but if you don't think 6'1 or 6'2 is tall I question your mental sanity

6'0 is low tall
6'1 is tall solid tall
6'2 is strong tall
If you do not think these heights are tall especially 6'1/2 then you have a problem

Plus these are the best heights

6'0 9/10
6'1 9.5
6'2 10/10

I'd rather be 6'0 over 6'4 but a height I'd pick would be 6'2 188cm night all the time. Nothing beats strong 6ft2. 190cm morning 189 day 188 night and 191-2 range in shoes is IMO 10/10. Not too tall and its comfortably strong tall. 6'1 follows as second best height then 6'0 3rd place.
SAK says on 20/May/15
@184.3cm (Night)
It was FiveNine who said 5'8 can be tall in some situations, not me.

I replied to him saying that was unlikely. And would only happen when females and/or children were around.
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 20/May/15
The most underrated and overrated heights:

1. 6'0"=So many don't understand how tall this is. I see so many referring to it as being below average (serious) or average nowadays. Do I even explain this one more?
2. 6'1.5"-6'1.75"=It's definity strong tall, despite the fact that most perceive it as being solid tall. The height percentile calculator is likely underplaying this height as it seems to be more like the 95th-96th percentile to me.
3. 5'11" range=I think that it actually might be tall now. How come there are so many people referring to this height as being average?
4. 5'9"-5'10"
5. 5'8" apparently
Muller says on 20/May/15
Which do you think appeals more to girls: a guy who's 6'2" with average looks or a guy who's 6' with good looks? Also, at what height would good looks be insufficient to compensate for the lack of height when compared to an average looking 6'2" guy?
hey rob says on 19/May/15
@Keltoi: Spot on, spot on. Most accurate height chart I have seen so far. I barely make 169 at night so I guess I am sort of below average.
SportsHeight says on 19/May/15
Click Here
From Medscape's CDC height percentile calculator for 20-year-old American men:

5'1" and below: <1st percentile (0.1)
5'1.5": <1st percentile (0.2)
5'2": <1st percentile (0.4)
5'2.5": 1st percentile (0.6)
5'3": 2nd percentile (1.5)
5'4": 2nd percentile (2.3)
5'4.5": 4th percentile (3.5)
5'5": 5th percentile (5.0)
5'5.5": 7th percentile (7.2)
5'6": 10th percentile (10.0)
5'6.5": 13th percentile (13.3)
5'7": 18th percentile (17.6)
5'7.5": 23rd percentile (22.7)
5'8": 28th percentile (28.1)
5'8.5": 35th percentile (34.5)
5'9": 41st percentile (41.3)
5'9.5": 48th percentile (48.4)
5'10": 55th percentile (55.2)
5'10.5": 62nd percentile (62.2)
5'11": 69th percentile (68.8)
5'11.5": 75th percentile (74.9)
6'0": 80th percentile (80.2)
6'0.5": 85th percentile (84.8)
6'1": 89th percentile (88.7)
6'1.5": 92nd percentile (91.8)
6'2": 94th percentile (94.2)
6'2.5": 96th percentile (96.0)
6'3": 97th percentile (97.3)
6'3.5": 98th percentile (98.3)
6'4": 99th percentile (98.9)
6'4.5": 99th percentile (99.3)
6'5": >99th percentile (99.6)
6'5.5": >99th percentile (99.8)
6'6" and above: >99th percentile (99.9)

This is how the data would be measured using the most common statistical method:

<1st percentile: freakishly short (outliers)
1st to 5th percentile: extremely short
5th to 25th percentile: short
25th to 75th percentile: average
75th to 95th percentile: tall
95th to 99th percentile: extremely tall
>99th percentile: freakishly tall (outliers)

OR

If you wanted a little more specificity, 5th to 20th could be considered "short", 20th to 40th "below average", 40th to 60th "average", 60th to 80th "above average", and 80th to 95th "tall." The bottom and top quadrants would remain the same.
Zoro 5'9.5 says on 19/May/15
@FranGym 6'1 just tallish in Spain? Sorry but to me it's tall without a doubt.

Average for all men is 174-175cm, while young guys average is somewhere between 5'9.5 and 5'10
Celebheights 6'1.75/187 CM says on 19/May/15
5'9.5" is the average.
183cm says on 19/May/15
@editor rob
Lol rob, so true. Some heights in soccer are way off, ufc is by far the worst, they change their heights after matches . Also rugby, ive forgotten the name of a guy whose listed at 6ft3 yet I could swear hes 6ft1 max. Rugby has to also be off by 1-2 inches on alot of their heights. Crusaders player colin slade jumped form 180 to 183cm recently. Have you ever had an argument avout how tall you are, I had with thia one guy who says he was 5ft10 and hes like 5ft7. He also said hes dad is like 6ft1 yet im lole and inch taller, My night height is loke 182.6-8. I mean I dont like arguing over some small thing but its things like this is what make people think 5ft8 is short e.t.c.
[Editor Rob: I don't think I really have in person about my height.

In comparison to say a celebrity, people can still view you as a different height than you measure, which is why I hope a celebrity can see that discussing height is just people's opinions on how they look...it doesn't change their actual height. If that celebrity got accurately measured 5ft 10, but people are guessing they look 5ft 9, maybe it is proportions/posture that fools people...it's just a guess afterall, nobody is saying the guesses are facts!

If a measurement video was shown, then it becomes much better evidence, but how many actors are ever going to do a clip like that - in my case, there is many videos of me measuring in 5ft 8 range, so even though someone could say 'hey you are 5ft 6', I won't get upset, it doesn't change my height.
]
french guy says on 19/May/15
Lol totigno you may live in Marseille.
FiveNine says on 19/May/15
@184.3cm(Night)
Vladimir Putin is 5'7...Dmityr Medvedev is 5'4...Nicolas Sarkozy is 5'5
Francois Hollande is 5'7...
I am taller than the above Presidents just to mention a few excluding Asia.
Normally statesman are known for bieng tall.
Honest...at 5'9.2 in the morning i am the tallest at times in a medium size store.
FiveNine says on 19/May/15
@184.3cm(Night)
Vladimir Putin is 5'7...Dmityr Medvedev is 5'4...Nicolas Sarkozy is 5'5
Francois Hollande is 5'7...
I am taller than the above Presidents just to mention a few excluding Asia.
Normally statesman are known for bieng tall.
Honest...at 5'9.2 in the morning i am the tallest at times in a medium size store.
french guy says on 19/May/15
i'm not the only one who is considering leg lenghtening, jay morgan is considering it too, but he is 172 cm
JJF says on 19/May/15
I think the people posting here who don't think 6'2" is legit 'very tall' for men don't actually know what a 6'2" guy looks like.
Many 6-footers claim to be 6'2" and the majority of average sized women think 183cm guys are 6’2” if they had to guess…

A genuine 188cm man is tall by anyone's standards - you will almost always be the tallest amongst a group of 90 random people (unless you're in Croatia or The Netherlands perhaps) and you will (in shoes) still be TALLER than a 5’10” / 178cm(!) WOMAN wearing the higher end ‘4-inch heels’ as is popular in party settings.
Think about it.
Muller says on 19/May/15
When it comes to attracting girls, at what height would good looks be insufficient to compensate for the lack of height if a guy is coming up against an average looking guy who is 6foot1 and above? The assumption is that both guys have relatively similar physiques, wealth and personalities.
heightan says on 19/May/15
Chart for women Uk

4'11 - very short
5'0 - very short but not stand out
5'1 - short but not stand out
5'2 - short normal
5'3 - short average (very near average range)
5'4 - average
5'5 - upper average
5'6 - tallish
5'7 - tall (solid)
5'8 - tall (solid)
5'9 - very tall
5'10 - extremely tall

Men

5'4 - very short
5'5 - short
5'6 - normal short
5'7 - low average
5'8 - low average/average
5'9 - upper average
5'10 - tallish
5'11 - tall (solid)
6'0 - tall (solid)
6'1 - very tall
6'2 - very tall
6'3 - extremely tall
Anonyous1 says on 18/May/15
...I knew a guy, years ago, who was 5'8. He was well proportioned, in terms of limbs, slim build and head size. I'm a bit over 6'0. Never once would I have thought of the guy as short. You can put a legit 6'2 guy in a room full of 6'6 guys, and he'll look short. It's all relative. It's the short guy, who never had the extra advantage of being tall, who...without ego, carries himself as though he was tall in terms of being comfortable in his own skin, who is the winner.
Keltoi says on 18/May/15
I'm seeing quite a few people here saying that 173cm is short. I have no idea where you live of course, so it's possible that it is where you are. I can only speak for myself though.

I'm 173cm at night and I live in Glasgow. I know Rob has said the average here is 176-177cm, but I feel comfortably average. I now do courier work and I've been doing it for two months now. I'm outside continually and walking down main streets, full of people, so it's ideal to judge from my perspective. I usually wear Nike Air Max, Converse or my Red Wings boots, so I'm not kicking about with any heeled boots. I'm around 175cm in the morning and can range anywhere from around 178cm to 176.5cm-ish in shoes. I range from around 176cm to 174.5cm-ish in shoes at my low. I'm out delivering in the afternoon, and when wearing the Red Wings in particular, I find that I'm taller than a helluva a lot of people. Which at times makes wonder if the average is actually lower in Glasgow than other parts of Scotland.

With that in mind, I don't see 173cm as short at all. For me, it's in the average range and a more than decent height. I don't really feel short until I'm next to a 185-188cm person. I know many 183cm people and although they're comfortably taller, it's not massive by any means. I'd prefer to be 178-180cm of course, but I'm content enough.

Here's a wee chart of my opinion on male height in Glasgow.

152cm - = Dwarf (Horrendous height tbh)
153cm - 161cm = Very short (Far smaller than most men)
162cm - 168cm = Short (Not as bad / Still smaller than most)
169cm - 172cm = Below Average (Grey area between short and average)
173cm - 178cm = Average (Unremarkable in every way possible / Neither short or tall)
179cm - 182cm = Above Average (Grey area between tall and average)
183cm - 188cm = Tall (Taller than most people you meet)
189cm - 195cm = Very Tall (Comfortably taller than average height people)
196cm + = Giant (Freakishly tall / The height defines you)

For women, just subtract 10cm from each range.
Dan says on 18/May/15
Hey Rob, are doctors measurements accurate? Because I've measured myself at 188.5 cm in the morning,187 throughout the day,and slightly below 187 cm at night. Yet today at the doctors,i was measured at 185 cm. It was after a long day of me sitting at school and walking around with a bookbag though. Do you think the measurement was inaccurate? Because 1st time, i was measured at 184.8 cm,I was SHOCKED,and asked to be remeasured,and they measured me at 185cm on the dot. Am i really only 185 cm? Because I've been measuring myself in the strong 6'2 range,and most people think Im 6'2-6'5.
[Editor Rob: my advice for anybody who gets measured is to look at the bar yourself as I am sure in some cases the nurse or Dr simply rounds...which might account for some discrepencies. But the device itself, may - if attached to a wall - be installed with an error. ]
183cm says on 18/May/15
@editorrob
Thats true. The listing are very accurate they round up on google e.t.c. soccer is complicated, im sure that torres was liated 183cm when he was at lverpool, casillas who is an inch below ramos e.t.c.Rugby i also think alot of guys are listed an inch higher if not more, maybe theyre listed in their cleats im not sure. Tennis also is questionable, most peiple in tennis are losted an inch higher, girls and guys its as if its only the big four excpet murray who are close, evryone elses height is off.
Btw do you thibk Southamptons victor wanyama is 188cm, he looks shorter than their 6ft1-2 players. Plus I find it hard to believe hes only 70kg and yet looks that big at 188cm.


@totigno
I think thats a good listing although I see that girls below 5ft8 really like 5ft11 range and above like 6ft2 range. Personally from what ive seen majority of girls key word majority like 5ft11-6ft range, because of one thing many people fail to see majority of girls are 5ft3-6 range. Id say anyhting above 191-3cm is not common. Though ive seen a 6ft10 or so guy. And if 180cm were average its inposssible malemodellling agency would put this as a requiremnt. 5ft11 range is so underrated here yet male models have to at least be this and most girls if there average was equal to statiatics, id bet it would be close between 180 and 183cm.
[Editor Rob: there's no chance wanyama is 6ft 2, if he's over 6ft flat I'd be shocked.]
FranGym says on 18/May/15
Here in Spain for men:

5'2'': Very very short and rare.
5'3 to 5'5'': very short. Normally shortest people in the street are between 5'3'' to 5'5''.

5'6'': between short and very short.
5'7'': short, neither very short nor average. taller than the shortest but still towered by a lot of people.

5'8'': normal. in some cases short, but you tower the same people as probably they tower you.

5'9'' to 6'0'': the average. there are people taller than you but you won't feel short unless you face a person over 6'3''.

6'1'': for some people, especially the shortest, start of the tallish. you start towering more people than will tower you. girls will see you somewhat taller. is very rare to find a girl taller than you.

6'2'': tall. tall for almost every girl, any girl is taller than you. you start towering men even by 4 and 5 inches. you will feel short only if you face a 6'4'' or 6'5'' guy and over.

6'3'': tall, even very tall. a legit 191 cm is seen as a great men, towers almost all the men. he outstands. even if he's around tall or tallish people, he will be the tallest or at least call the attention of the people.

6'4'': tall to, in most of the cases, very tall. there can pass days to see another man of this height. very tall in every group of friends.

6'5'' - 6'6'' - very tall, in most of the cases, a giant for men. giant to monster for the vast majority of the women.

6'7'' and over - so very rare. I've only seen two or three this month. giants for everyone.


And, about the thing you were talking about, as I asked some boys and girls, the opinion is the same. The perfect height for a man is between 6'1'' (even 6'0.5'') and 6'3''. good heights are between 5'9'' and 5'11'. men above 6'3'' are seen as giants by the girls while men under 5'9'' are seen by most of the people as too short, because there will be a lot of women that will be their height or taller. for men, the perfect height is between 6'1'' and 6'2'', but most of them say that if they could grow taller, they would choose to measure 6'3'' because is a height were you are so very tall and big but not enough to look like a giant. you outstand with no problem even with 6'1'' around. when you ask if 6'5'' is the perfect height, only 6'1'' or 6'2'' would say it is. most of the boys and girls think 6'5'' is more a problem.

I'm 6'1.75'' and I would like to be 6'4'' or 6'5'', to be honest. here in spain I tower most of the people and the vast majority of my friends say I'm tall, even some girls say I'm like a giant, but I see in the streets (and mostly in the young people) men that can tower me. between 6'2'' and 6'5'' that don't make me look like a midget but it seems for me.
grizz says on 18/May/15
@totigno, I don't know where you live, but describing 5ft8 as a common height for young men is laughable. I have met maybe 2 guys with that height and they are the shortest peers I know of.
james b says on 18/May/15
my math teacher told me its unlikely in everyday life you will see a man who is 198cm. this was in 2003 though
184.3cm (Night) says on 18/May/15
Seeing alot of errors where people wrongly convert cm > foot.

So 5'2 - 157cm
5'3 - 160cm
5'4- 163cm
5'5- 165 cm
5'6 - 168cm
5'7 - 170cm
5'8- 173cm
5'9- 175cm
5'10- 178cm
5'11- 180cm
6'- 183cm
6'1- 185cm
6'2- 188cm
6'3 - 191cm
6'4- 193cm
6'5- 196cm
6'6- 198cm

Hope that helps some people out.
184.3cm (Night) says on 18/May/15
FiveNine says on 16/May/15
@SAK
5'8 can be tall in situations. I drop down a little under 5'9 at night and never feel short.
At a gathering of about 100 people i counted only ten taller than myself...(90th percentile)

Im not trying to be offensive here but at that height where could you be? Bingo? Bowling Club? Is this a country with a 5'7 or 5'8 average for men? Just curious.
Kourosh says on 18/May/15
i kinda agree i have never heard a 5'8 man get called average let alone tall.

at best they would be referred as below average man.
totigno says on 17/May/15
chart for young men

from 5ft2 to 6ft5

5'0 - 5'2 : you're extremely short , you're the shortest everywhere but not a midget
5ft3 : very short , the shortest normal height
5ft4 : very short , you're likely to be the shortest of your male friends
5ft5 : lowest end of short height , can look short or very short
5ft6 : short height but common height still normal
5ft7: highest end of short height some look short but you can appear average depending people around , footware body proportions
5ft8 : under average but i would not consider it short , very common height
5ft9 : average even for young men , but not solid average , weak average nowadays
5ft10: average height for the young population
5ft11 : a bit over average , at that height you start to appear tallish ( girls love that height (180cm the golden height)
6ft : tallish sometimes tall but ( outside the average range)
6ft1 : start of true tall you're a legit tall man ( even if you have friends taller you're tall so keep silent lol)
6ft2 : i never see someone this height not tall , that's solid tall )
6ft3 : bordering very tall , can appear very tall
6ft4 : very tall , impressive height
6ft5 : even more impressive height
over 6ft5 : do you play basket ball? and giant when you are much more taller
totigno says on 17/May/15
french guy says on 16/May/15

and do you trust statistics, i mean do you think 25% is shorter than 173 and 25% is taller than 183 cm ?
173 cm is just short, and 170 cm (this is not my opinion, this how people describe a 170 cm guy) is very short.Average height is somewhere between 180 and 185 cm.Talls starts at 190 cm.

i live in france as well and people i know who are 183cm and over consider themselves tall , i never heard someone 182-185cm saying i'm average height
and 170cm very short that's silly, i see men much shorter on a daily basis
james b says on 17/May/15
do you guys agree 6'5 is the start of when you will always look like a huge guy regardless if your fat or not?
Poverty 6ft (182 cm evening height) says on 17/May/15
@French Guy

I'd trust large-scale studies or info from reputable sources for sure. The CDC is a reliable source on American heights and it has young American men down at a median height of ~5 ft 10, which sounds about right to me, while young non-Hispanic white American men are actually 5 ft 10 on average as well. Young English (British, even) men have been recorded at 5 ft 10 to 5 ft 10.5 range.

To say that the average is 180-185cm conflicts with actual statistical data and professional measurements, although you may be right about France. I just don't see how the data can be so wrong for England and the U.S, although keep in mind that a national average isn't applicable to every region in a country. It is entirely possible that chunks of a country are taller than others.


@Amaze

Based on your parents' heights, you would have been predicted 5 ft 10 range. Your bro went 2 over that and you went 2 under, which is tough luck but I suppose it 'evens out'.

If you live in a 'diverse' part of London, I expect you probably wouldn't feel that short at 5 ft 8, tbh.

My dad was a strong 6 ft and my mum was 5 ft 4. I've ended up at a weak 6 ft and my brother is 6 ft 2 range. It's a genetic lottery, I guess; I got lucky and my brother seemingly got very, very lucky.
Lillo Thomas says on 17/May/15
I agree , If 6'0 is tall in western countries relative to the 5'10 average then 5'8 is short. 6'0 is more above average in countries like USA or tallish. Legit tall starts at 6'1 and legit short starts at 5'7. 5'8 is more shortish or below average. 5'8 guys with some shoes look normal most of the time. 5'7 and under is really short. Sorry G you are a short guy . You are less than 5'7 !
SAK says on 17/May/15
FiveNine says: 5'8 can be tall in situations.
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Those occasions are most likely rare. That will happen only when (young) men are absent, and there are only women and children around.
totigno says on 17/May/15
Statistically you might have an argument. But reality is, 5'8 men (esp young men) are seen short by most. Many of my 5'8 friends are referred as short, when a height description is used. They get tagged as short more then average. I live in England. You could say this only anecdotal, but it's how many view height.

especially when barely 5ft7 claim this height
Muller says on 16/May/15
When it comes to attracting girls, at what height would good looks be insufficient to compensate for the lack of height if a guy is coming up against an average looking guy who is 6foot1 and above? The assumption is that both guys have relatively similar physiques, wealth and personalities.
french guy says on 16/May/15
SAK says on 15/May/15
Amaze says: 5'8 is not short or shortish at all.
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Statistically you might have an argument. But reality is, 5'8 men (esp young men) are seen short by most. Many of my 5'8 friends are referred as short, when a height description is used. They get tagged as short more then average. I live in England. You could say this only anecdotal, but it's how many view height.



and do you trust statistics, i mean do you think 25% is shorter than 173 and 25% is taller than 183 cm ?
173 cm is just short, and 170 cm (this is not my opinion, this how people describe a 170 cm guy) is very short.Average height is somewhere between 180 and 185 cm.Talls starts at 190 cm.
Poverty 6ft says on 16/May/15
@SAK, I pretty much agree.

If 6 ft, which is 2 inches above average for young English/American men, is referred to as tall, then 5 ft 8, which is 2 inches below average for young English/American men, is short.

However tall you consider 6 ft to be, 5 ft 8 is that short.

The only caveat here is that the above only applies to comparisons with other young men. Out and about in public, at 5 ft 8, someone would be taller than most women and youngsters and taller than a lot of older people. Developed countries have ageing populations and so relatively younger people make up a fairly small portion of the population anyway.
FiveNine says on 16/May/15
@SAK
5'8 can be tall in situations. I drop down a little under 5'9 at night and never feel short.
At a gathering of about 100 people i counted only ten taller than myself...(90th percentile)
Also there are many, many 5'7 dudes out there.....
FiveNine says on 16/May/15
@SAK
5'8 can be tall in situations. I drop down a little under 5'9 at night and never feel short.
At a gathering of about 100 people i counted only ten taller than myself...(90th percentile)
Also there are many, many 5'7 dudes out there.....
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183cm says on 16/May/15
@6ftmagician and @poverty6ft
Misc like many peiple are delusional, in all seriousness at my height when I gk to the mall I may only see 1-3 girls taller than me, sometimes none. Which is pretty alright with the percentile charts. I actually tried to teat out if id be around 80% of guys. I just counted the guys who came to this atore and guess what it ranged fro 75% to around 86% so thats pretty much it. Most people in all seriousness dont know how tall they are, its mainly the dudes upto 6ft2-3. plus girls are probably the worst guessers like last year i was 5ft9.5 or so and some girl thought i was 6ft1. I dotn know why people thjnk height is a big factor with girls, as you can see at almost 5ft10 some person thought I was 6ft1. But you know you cant blame this as most people genuinely believe theyre taller, id wager 90% easily. Just why people think 6ft1-2 is average in Netherlands e.t.c, yet stats show 181-182cm

@editorrob
Is it me or do most aports give an inch to the people. Literally almost every sport. Combay sports are probably the worst with what Ive seen. Do you agree and what sports do you think are most accurate, id wager rugby
[Editor Rob: the nba generally is calling people in sneaker heights, so they already are disrespecting your natural barefoot height by giving an inflated height.
NFL seems to list heights taken at the combine (without shoes of course) so I think that's pretty good. They round up a lot of time though, but at least we have a database of measurements. In soccer we don't. Sometimes those are made up...
]
Bryan (Queenslander) says on 15/May/15
@Amaze

If a 4'10 woman has a son with a 6'2 man, is it normal for him to be 5'6??
Amaze says on 15/May/15
@Zoro really? Ah damn still a ok height.

@Lisa yeah it looks like a decent listing I agree

@Poverty 6 ft
my dad 5'11/180cm
My mum is 5'4/163cm
Thats their heights
They had a 183/4 range son strong 6footer(my brother)
Then me a 173cm 5'8(16 year gap, I'll be 18, my bro 34)
I'm Indian BTW.(living in England, British Indian born London but Indian origin/roots)

@Rampage yeah 185cm morning IMO is start of low tall, 184 is borderline tall and 183 morning is tallish to me. Anyone who is 6'0 during the day or 183cm evening is low tall for sure IMO.

@Fog181 6'0-6'1 is quite tall yeah and 3-4/5 inches above average so they will make a average guy look smaller lol but they are basic normal tall yeah. 6'2 is legit strong tall where you start to look proper big. 6'3 IMO is very tall and 5/6 inches above average. A 6'3 bloke towers a average guy makes him look small and is actually low very tall
6'4 IMO isn't low very tall its a solid very tall I saw my 193 cm and 194cm mates comparing they are legit solid very tall blokes. 6'3 isn't just tall its IMO low very tall, its defo more than just tall.
MrTBlack says on 15/May/15
@Fog

%95 of Caucasian American men will be between 5'9-6'2" when finished growing. So 6'0"-6'2" is extremely common. 6'3" and 6'4" are common but much less common than 6'0"-6'2".
Poverty 6ft says on 15/May/15
@Fog181

Average young male height in the USA is 5 ft 10 or 5 ft 10.5 if only counting non-Hispanic whites, but we'll go with 5 ft 10.

Using a normal distribution, if the average young male height is 5 ft 10, less than 4% of guys are 6 ft 3+. So, you could have 24 young guys in a room and it's most likely that all of them will be shorter than 6 ft 3.

6ft is arguably barely tall but 6 ft 1 is legit tall given that (using the normal distribution again) less than 15% of young guys are that height or taller.

Guys at heights like yours or mine (1cm taller than you) don't really see it that way because we're already taller than ~64% of young guys (in my case, even more) but the numbers dictate that 6 ft (taller than more than 76% of young males) is pretty much tall, while 6 ft 1 definitely is. From our perspective, a 6 ft guy isn't 'tall' but, objectively, he is tall, especially when you factor in older men, who may have lost some height.
SAK says on 15/May/15
Amaze says: 5'8 is not short or shortish at all.
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Statistically you might have an argument. But reality is, 5'8 men (esp young men) are seen short by most. Many of my 5'8 friends are referred as short, when a height description is used. They get tagged as short more then average. I live in England. You could say this only anecdotal, but it's how many view height.
Fog181 says on 15/May/15
For me 6'2 is the start of a legit tall man. 6'0-6'1 is quite tall, but are pretty common heights especially amongst my generation(18-30) 6'4+ is the start of very tall for me. Some people class 6'3 as very tall but you would always see a handful or so of guys this height or taller in crowded places such as in town or in bars/clubs, so for this reason i would put 6'3 as just tall.
zod says on 15/May/15
New level of stupid when you start debating on cartoon characters heights

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