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6ft 11.94in (213.2cm)
6ft 11.94in (213.2cm)
Undertaker Frank said on 25/Sep/18
Gretz, Go to youtube and see the Andre vs Wepner you will see Monsoon is shorter than Wepner who is listed @ 6ft 5 So i cant believe Monsoon was 6ft 5 Maybe 6ft 3ish to 6ft 4 @ best
Gretz, Go to youtube and see the Andre vs Wepner you will see Monsoon is shorter than Wepner who is listed @ 6ft 5 So i cant believe Monsoon was 6ft 5 Maybe 6ft 3ish to 6ft 4 @ best
RP said on 25/Sep/18
Sotiris, I hear ya big man! I’m 5’11” & 223-225 lbs right now. And @ age 42...43 this November, I need to trim back down to 212-215. For better cardiovascular health. Years of heavy lifting & contact sports have left my old ass with achy joints. So, Cardio gets neglected often, LOL! But...the iron is in my DNA...I’ll be lifting when I stroke out in my golden years for sure. My wife has been on my ass to start running with her again. It’s on the to do list. Stay strong & healthy, Friend!
Sotiris, I hear ya big man! I’m 5’11” & 223-225 lbs right now. And @ age 42...43 this November, I need to trim back down to 212-215. For better cardiovascular health. Years of heavy lifting & contact sports have left my old ass with achy joints. So, Cardio gets neglected often, LOL! But...the iron is in my DNA...I’ll be lifting when I stroke out in my golden years for sure. My wife has been on my ass to start running with her again. It’s on the to do list. Stay strong & healthy, Friend!
Gretz said on 24/Sep/18
Rob i have been watching videos of Andre and Arnold and Andre just comes out too tall next to him.I know a friend of his measured him at 6'1.5" back in 1969,this has to be enhanced as Wilt and Andre in the pics where they are the same height(I know Andre has a foot ware advantage)but man they look very tall next to Arnold,Wilt has moccasins on so he gets what a quarter inch but you have to include the wig it may give him close to another inch.I may have to revise my estimate of Andre in 1984 to still being 7'0" unless Arnold only reached 6'0" even,they just totally dwarf him.And as an Olympia winner a scant 4 years ago they dwarf him in mass as well.I would love to here opinions on this.
Editor Rob
Rob i have been watching videos of Andre and Arnold and Andre just comes out too tall next to him.I know a friend of his measured him at 6'1.5" back in 1969,this has to be enhanced as Wilt and Andre in the pics where they are the same height(I know Andre has a foot ware advantage)but man they look very tall next to Arnold,Wilt has moccasins on so he gets what a quarter inch but you have to include the wig it may give him close to another inch.I may have to revise my estimate of Andre in 1984 to still being 7'0" unless Arnold only reached 6'0" even,they just totally dwarf him.And as an Olympia winner a scant 4 years ago they dwarf him in mass as well.I would love to here opinions on this.
Editor RobI don't think he was good friends with the guy who measured him!
Capt.Nobody said on 24/Sep/18
If that stone is legit 6-10 then that Baba shot could be a game changer.
If that stone is legit 6-10 then that Baba shot could be a game changer.
Guanzo said on 24/Sep/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/18
Finally, if Studd was 6'5", Andre was 6'10" here... Click Here
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Andre looks 6'8" max in that pic.
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/18
Finally, if Studd was 6'5", Andre was 6'10" here... Click Here
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Andre looks 6'8" max in that pic.
Demento said on 24/Sep/18
Here is an interview where Andre and Baba are stood next to each other.
Click Here
Looks around 4 inches to me.
Here is an interview where Andre and Baba are stood next to each other.
Click Here
Looks around 4 inches to me.
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Sep/18
@Gretz Glad you liked the hockey pics, dude. (Don't worry, I'm a gentle giant.) My brother and I began playing street hockey at the age of about 3. My mom would always be surprised when 16 and 18-year-old neighbor kids would ring the doorbell 'cause they needed a goalie, that happened to be only 3 years old. (I probably weighed about 140 lbs at the tender age of 8.) I think you might be right about "The Great One" being around 5'11".
@RP I was about 305 lbs (possibly 310 lbs) back then. Am now a more healthy 265, but go back to around 275 in the winter. (Hopefully, there's no heart attack in the offing.) The other dude was around 185 lbs, I think.
@Gretz Glad you liked the hockey pics, dude. (Don't worry, I'm a gentle giant.) My brother and I began playing street hockey at the age of about 3. My mom would always be surprised when 16 and 18-year-old neighbor kids would ring the doorbell 'cause they needed a goalie, that happened to be only 3 years old. (I probably weighed about 140 lbs at the tender age of 8.) I think you might be right about "The Great One" being around 5'11".
@RP I was about 305 lbs (possibly 310 lbs) back then. Am now a more healthy 265, but go back to around 275 in the winter. (Hopefully, there's no heart attack in the offing.) The other dude was around 185 lbs, I think.
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
If Andre lifted that head up with terry O`reilly just slightly he is in fact 7'0".most people have to recognize larger man almost always have their head tilted slightly downward in pics.He is I.M.O 7'0" in every pic with the bruins no problem.And I have seen 6'2" listings for O`reilly.Can people still say he was a mere 6'10" in light of all these photos.If he ever stood tall with his chin jutted out 7'0.5'until at least 1976
If Andre lifted that head up with terry O`reilly just slightly he is in fact 7'0".most people have to recognize larger man almost always have their head tilted slightly downward in pics.He is I.M.O 7'0" in every pic with the bruins no problem.And I have seen 6'2" listings for O`reilly.Can people still say he was a mere 6'10" in light of all these photos.If he ever stood tall with his chin jutted out 7'0.5'until at least 1976
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
Man I am tired of people listing Monsoon at 6'4",I met him outside of the old Wild Wood convention center when i was 12 or 13 in 1979-80 he was selling tickets out front and my dad was a solid 6'1" and he dwarfed my father in every way he was at least 4 inches taller and was still 400+ pounds at the time.(keep in mind it`s hard too admit to a 13 year old boy that someone is that much bigger than your father)and his feet where huge he had white addidas on and they had to be size 16 or 17.And if anything my dad had a foot ware advantage as he had big clodhopper boots on I used to call them Herman Munster shoes,I have no doubt he was 6'5" at the time.I was so intimidated by him I was scared to ask him for an autograph,and Ladd I keep saying even next to Monsoon looks 6'9.5".Although I admit I can`t see there foot ware i will do more home work on this.(and Rob maybe it`s time for a Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux page) I have them at 5'11" and 6'5" respectively,Lemieux is usually listed at 6'4" but when he stands next to a 6'4" player he is always taller you can use 6'4"Eric Lindros as an example as he looks an inch taller than him.So I don`t buy anything under 6'4.75 for Super Mario.
Man I am tired of people listing Monsoon at 6'4",I met him outside of the old Wild Wood convention center when i was 12 or 13 in 1979-80 he was selling tickets out front and my dad was a solid 6'1" and he dwarfed my father in every way he was at least 4 inches taller and was still 400+ pounds at the time.(keep in mind it`s hard too admit to a 13 year old boy that someone is that much bigger than your father)and his feet where huge he had white addidas on and they had to be size 16 or 17.And if anything my dad had a foot ware advantage as he had big clodhopper boots on I used to call them Herman Munster shoes,I have no doubt he was 6'5" at the time.I was so intimidated by him I was scared to ask him for an autograph,and Ladd I keep saying even next to Monsoon looks 6'9.5".Although I admit I can`t see there foot ware i will do more home work on this.(and Rob maybe it`s time for a Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux page) I have them at 5'11" and 6'5" respectively,Lemieux is usually listed at 6'4" but when he stands next to a 6'4" player he is always taller you can use 6'4"Eric Lindros as an example as he looks an inch taller than him.So I don`t buy anything under 6'4.75 for Super Mario.
62B said on 23/Sep/18
Sotiris its typical you want to down grade someone like Reeves to get Studd to be your wanted 6'5". Even if Reeves was 6'3" I think Studd comes out looking 6'5.5" min and if Reeves is 6'3.5" then Studd is for sure 6'6". That picture with Dryer is a joke. they are on steep incline favoring Dryer. watch the episode. a few frames later and Studd is looking taller than Dryer. You are so blatant, how do you expect to be taken seriously?
Sotiris its typical you want to down grade someone like Reeves to get Studd to be your wanted 6'5". Even if Reeves was 6'3" I think Studd comes out looking 6'5.5" min and if Reeves is 6'3.5" then Studd is for sure 6'6". That picture with Dryer is a joke. they are on steep incline favoring Dryer. watch the episode. a few frames later and Studd is looking taller than Dryer. You are so blatant, how do you expect to be taken seriously?
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
Studd was in no way 6'5,he was probably an inch taller than HOGAN+ in that match with Studd when it started to rain.Studd was 6'6.5-6'7".lets not forget hogan was an inch taller than 6'5".5 hillbilly jim,i know you guys want Andre to be smaller because of the people around him but it throws all other heights into chaos.Andre was at least 7'0.5" out of bed in 1972 get over it the world won`t end.
Studd was in no way 6'5,he was probably an inch taller than HOGAN+ in that match with Studd when it started to rain.Studd was 6'6.5-6'7".lets not forget hogan was an inch taller than 6'5".5 hillbilly jim,i know you guys want Andre to be smaller because of the people around him but it throws all other heights into chaos.Andre was at least 7'0.5" out of bed in 1972 get over it the world won`t end.
tree said on 23/Sep/18
Demento said on 22/Sep/18
Take Baba's shoes off and move his feet flat against the monument and he comes out at 6ft7.
An old Andre had 4 inches on Baba in their wrestling gear.
No way his shoes give 1 inch and he isnt evn stretched for a measurment
Demento said on 22/Sep/18
Take Baba's shoes off and move his feet flat against the monument and he comes out at 6ft7.
An old Andre had 4 inches on Baba in their wrestling gear.
No way his shoes give 1 inch and he isnt evn stretched for a measurment
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
Gravis,i did make a post earlier that never made it,yes i am one of Wayne Gretzky`s biggest fans.and thanks for posting that pic with him and Hogan,i think Gretz was 5'11" although he gets a lot of 6'0" listings.I think hogan looks a good 6'5"there,and the pic with Orr and Phil Esposito is another I haven`t seen.i have no problem with Andre being 7'0") there,also the pics with the old montreal players is cool.And i better stop arguing with you as you are a giant in your own right
Gravis,i did make a post earlier that never made it,yes i am one of Wayne Gretzky`s biggest fans.and thanks for posting that pic with him and Hogan,i think Gretz was 5'11" although he gets a lot of 6'0" listings.I think hogan looks a good 6'5"there,and the pic with Orr and Phil Esposito is another I haven`t seen.i have no problem with Andre being 7'0") there,also the pics with the old montreal players is cool.And i better stop arguing with you as you are a giant in your own right
Pdoggy said on 23/Sep/18
Like I said downgrading everyone by 2 inches to get the desired height.
Like I said downgrading everyone by 2 inches to get the desired height.
tree said on 22/Sep/18
Older Andre looked about 2 inches Taller than Baba Click Here
And we know he had to be 6ft10 even at 44 he had easy 2 inch on Tyler Mane
Older Andre looked about 2 inches Taller than Baba Click Here
And we know he had to be 6ft10 even at 44 he had easy 2 inch on Tyler Mane
tree said on 22/Sep/18
Great find man Baba looks like he could strech to 6ft10 in shoes,i taught he looked 6ft8-6ft9 with Jeff Butch
Jeff was taller than 6ft8 Tyler Mane
I dont know where that 6ft6 listing came for BABA it to low Click Here
at 1:05 u can compare mane and Jeff
Great find man Baba looks like he could strech to 6ft10 in shoes,i taught he looked 6ft8-6ft9 with Jeff Butch
Jeff was taller than 6ft8 Tyler Mane
I dont know where that 6ft6 listing came for BABA it to low Click Here
at 1:05 u can compare mane and Jeff
Demento said on 22/Sep/18
Take Baba's shoes off and move his feet flat against the monument and he comes out at 6ft7.
An old Andre had 4 inches on Baba in their wrestling gear.
Take Baba's shoes off and move his feet flat against the monument and he comes out at 6ft7.
An old Andre had 4 inches on Baba in their wrestling gear.
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Sep/18
Slick was billed as 6'4". How tall does Gorilla Monsoon look next to him? Click Here
The answer? Not very tall.
Here's Monsoon w/ 6'3" (MAX) Ventura... Click Here
Monsoon and 6'2.5" Vader... Click Here , Click Here
Monsoon and 6'2.5" Ali (in socks)... Click Here
Monsoon and 6'4"/6'4.5" Hogan (head tilted up)... Click Here
Maybe Monsoon was 6'5" peak, but I don't think so. I say no more than 6'4" peak. Also, why would they only bill a 6'5" guy as 6'5"?
Slick was billed as 6'4". How tall does Gorilla Monsoon look next to him? Click Here
The answer? Not very tall.
Here's Monsoon w/ 6'3" (MAX) Ventura... Click Here
Monsoon and 6'2.5" Vader... Click Here , Click Here
Monsoon and 6'2.5" Ali (in socks)... Click Here
Monsoon and 6'4"/6'4.5" Hogan (head tilted up)... Click Here
Maybe Monsoon was 6'5" peak, but I don't think so. I say no more than 6'4" peak. Also, why would they only bill a 6'5" guy as 6'5"?
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/18
Here's 6'5" Studd w/ Christopher Reeve, who I think might have been more 6'3" than 6'3.5":
Click Here
Here's Reeve and his 6'4" stand-in, Donald Standen (perfect name for a stand-in):
Click Here Standen is taller of the two.
Reeve looks 6'3.5" w/ 6'2" Gene Hackman... Click Here
Compared to Hackman and 6'5.5" Clive Mantle... Click Here
Reeve barely looks 6'3" w/ 5'9" peak height Jimmy Carter... Click Here
Reeve looks 6'3" w/ 6'1" peak height Roger Moore... Click Here
Reeve looks 6'3" next to 6'1" peak Arnie... Click Here
Here's a nice pic JT posted online of Studd and 6'6" Fred Dryer... Click Here
Finally, if Studd was 6'5", Andre was 6'10" here... Click Here
Here's 6'5" Studd w/ Christopher Reeve, who I think might have been more 6'3" than 6'3.5":
Click Here
Here's Reeve and his 6'4" stand-in, Donald Standen (perfect name for a stand-in):
Click Here Standen is taller of the two.
Reeve looks 6'3.5" w/ 6'2" Gene Hackman... Click Here
Compared to Hackman and 6'5.5" Clive Mantle... Click Here
Reeve barely looks 6'3" w/ 5'9" peak height Jimmy Carter... Click Here
Reeve looks 6'3" w/ 6'1" peak height Roger Moore... Click Here
Reeve looks 6'3" next to 6'1" peak Arnie... Click Here
Here's a nice pic JT posted online of Studd and 6'6" Fred Dryer... Click Here
Finally, if Studd was 6'5", Andre was 6'10" here... Click Here
62B said on 21/Sep/18
Lots of debate over Ladds true height. Any chance of giving him a page Rob? I do think its possible that Ladd was given a little boost in height in football. Its not like that doesn't ever happen. I just don't think its as common or to the degree they do it in wrestling.
Editor Rob
Lots of debate over Ladds true height. Any chance of giving him a page Rob? I do think its possible that Ladd was given a little boost in height in football. Its not like that doesn't ever happen. I just don't think its as common or to the degree they do it in wrestling.
Editor RobLadd claimed 6ft 9, but he has been called 6ft 8,9,10...i'd rule out 10 anyway.
RP said on 21/Sep/18
Sotiris! Looking huge! You look like 300 lbs & a mountain of a man in the statue pic with the 5’11” chap. Who’s my height.
Sotiris! Looking huge! You look like 300 lbs & a mountain of a man in the statue pic with the 5’11” chap. Who’s my height.
Gretz said on 21/Sep/18
OH and the pic you posted with Orr you can also i think see phil Esposito in the back.and i have know problem with Andre being 7'0" there.But some great pics I have not seen before.Oh and those pics look from around 1973-4.
OH and the pic you posted with Orr you can also i think see phil Esposito in the back.and i have know problem with Andre being 7'0" there.But some great pics I have not seen before.Oh and those pics look from around 1973-4.
Gretz said on 21/Sep/18
Yes Gravis i am one of the great one`s biggest fans(i can even tell you his stats season by season over 185 numbers)i would like to thank you for posting that pic of Gretzky and Hogan.I think Gretz was about 5'11" though he gets a lot of 6'0" billings,still i think Hogan is a solid 6'5" there Gretz`s daughter Paulina is about 3 or so there so this pic is probably circa 1992-93.and thanks for the pic of the old montreal guys.And i better not argue with you too much anymore i had no idea you where a giant in your own right.
Yes Gravis i am one of the great one`s biggest fans(i can even tell you his stats season by season over 185 numbers)i would like to thank you for posting that pic of Gretzky and Hogan.I think Gretz was about 5'11" though he gets a lot of 6'0" billings,still i think Hogan is a solid 6'5" there Gretz`s daughter Paulina is about 3 or so there so this pic is probably circa 1992-93.and thanks for the pic of the old montreal guys.And i better not argue with you too much anymore i had no idea you where a giant in your own right.
tree said on 21/Sep/18
Nobody can't prove Andre was 7ft tall lol,sometimes u can push things and say he is but most of the times he looks under it dumbs
Nobody can't prove Andre was 7ft tall lol,sometimes u can push things and say he is but most of the times he looks under it dumbs
Matthew Riddell said on 21/Sep/18
I disagree with 7'0"
Although he was definitely not 7'4" as billed, it's almost certain that he was around 7'1 anda half.
The best example of this is when you compare his entry photo onto letterman with the actor who played Jaws.
They are almost exactly the same height, just a shade under 7'2...
He also was officially measure in Canada by skeptics alongside Giant Haystacks and came in at over 7'1...
Who knows. But I'm pretty sure it should at least say 7'1.
I disagree with 7'0"
Although he was definitely not 7'4" as billed, it's almost certain that he was around 7'1 anda half.
The best example of this is when you compare his entry photo onto letterman with the actor who played Jaws.
They are almost exactly the same height, just a shade under 7'2...
He also was officially measure in Canada by skeptics alongside Giant Haystacks and came in at over 7'1...
Who knows. But I'm pretty sure it should at least say 7'1.
Taker74 said on 21/Sep/18
RP said on 17/Sep/18
Taker74...
Pau Gasol Saez
Was measured barefoot by The FIBA Euro Baskerball League (Spain) in 2006 @ 212.5 CM... 6’11-5/8”
Well my cousin who was invited to the Gasol foundation was told by the man himself that he was a tad over 7 feet. She is 5'3 and had an inch footwear at the time the photo was taken. Both brothers looked ginormous next to her. I'll look for the link or photo and post it. You be the judge and I know 'fact' she's 5'3
RP said on 17/Sep/18
Taker74...
Pau Gasol Saez
Was measured barefoot by The FIBA Euro Baskerball League (Spain) in 2006 @ 212.5 CM... 6’11-5/8”
Well my cousin who was invited to the Gasol foundation was told by the man himself that he was a tad over 7 feet. She is 5'3 and had an inch footwear at the time the photo was taken. Both brothers looked ginormous next to her. I'll look for the link or photo and post it. You be the judge and I know 'fact' she's 5'3
tree said on 21/Sep/18
I mean Ladd looks max 6ft8 so Andre was good inches taller,a Legit 6ft9 would not be towered by andre ,he would have MAX 3 inches on him
I mean Ladd looks max 6ft8 so Andre was good inches taller,a Legit 6ft9 would not be towered by andre ,he would have MAX 3 inches on him
JT said on 21/Sep/18
Monsoon may have been 6’4” peak but was around 6’3” by the 1980s.
6’6” John Studd had him by around 3 inches in 1983 Click Here
Dave Winfield, listed at 6’6” by MLB (which exaggerates nost everyone’s height) but 6’5” at Univ. of Minnesota playing basketball at age 20 was noticeably taller in 1986 as well even with the low camera angle and Monsoonn closer to the camera Click Here Monsoon was around ~ 6'3" King Kong Bundy's height.
Monsoon may have been 6’4” peak but was around 6’3” by the 1980s.
6’6” John Studd had him by around 3 inches in 1983 Click Here
Dave Winfield, listed at 6’6” by MLB (which exaggerates nost everyone’s height) but 6’5” at Univ. of Minnesota playing basketball at age 20 was noticeably taller in 1986 as well even with the low camera angle and Monsoonn closer to the camera Click Here Monsoon was around ~ 6'3" King Kong Bundy's height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Sep/18
@Kuoichi I think it was JT who posted this online Click Here showing that Giant Baba was really 6'6", so, a 6'7" Ernie Ladd would obviously have a higher eyeline.
Giant Baba and 6'2.5"? Antonio Inoki W/ FOOTWEAR: Click Here , Click Here
Inoki and 6'2.5" Ali W/ FOOTWEAR SHOWN (Ali looking TALLER than Inoki)... Click Here
Inoki and Ali... Click Here
Baba and 6'4" John Tenta... Click Here
6'2" Sting and 6'4" Tenta... Click Here
Sting and 6'6.5" Sid... Click Here
Once again, Baba and Andre (closer to camera)... Click Here
Andre was at least 6'10" early days, maybe 6'11" peak height... not 7 feet tall.
@Kuoichi I think it was JT who posted this online Click Here showing that Giant Baba was really 6'6", so, a 6'7" Ernie Ladd would obviously have a higher eyeline.
Giant Baba and 6'2.5"? Antonio Inoki W/ FOOTWEAR: Click Here , Click Here
Inoki and 6'2.5" Ali W/ FOOTWEAR SHOWN (Ali looking TALLER than Inoki)... Click Here
Inoki and Ali... Click Here
Baba and 6'4" John Tenta... Click Here
6'2" Sting and 6'4" Tenta... Click Here
Sting and 6'6.5" Sid... Click Here
Once again, Baba and Andre (closer to camera)... Click Here
Andre was at least 6'10" early days, maybe 6'11" peak height... not 7 feet tall.
Johnnywalker said on 20/Sep/18
Time for you to finally face reality Gravas, Ernie Ladd was taller than you and a whole lot better athlete than you. You don't like facts to well huh pal. Gravas is always good for a laugh. Keep it up pal!
Time for you to finally face reality Gravas, Ernie Ladd was taller than you and a whole lot better athlete than you. You don't like facts to well huh pal. Gravas is always good for a laugh. Keep it up pal!
Gretz said on 20/Sep/18
i have actually measured my pupils to the top of my head and i will have to check again,but i think it was 4.5 at least and I have a shaved head(I peaked at 5'11.5" but at 50 with back damage from dead lifting I have dropped to 5'10".I would think A man of Ladd`s size it would be about 5 inches).And thanks Danimal I thought Monsoon hit 6'5 also,I met him at the wildwood convention center he was selling tickets outside I was like 12 or 13.he was so massive i was scared to ask Him for his autograph,my father was a big 6'1" and monsoon dwarfed him in every way.That night he was standing at the door and the size of his feet i could not believe they had to be size 15 or 16 Addidas he had on and he waqs still around 400+ pounds at the time.Depending on foot ware ladd looks 6'9.5 to me,using him to make Andre shorter is not a good idea.
i have actually measured my pupils to the top of my head and i will have to check again,but i think it was 4.5 at least and I have a shaved head(I peaked at 5'11.5" but at 50 with back damage from dead lifting I have dropped to 5'10".I would think A man of Ladd`s size it would be about 5 inches).And thanks Danimal I thought Monsoon hit 6'5 also,I met him at the wildwood convention center he was selling tickets outside I was like 12 or 13.he was so massive i was scared to ask Him for his autograph,my father was a big 6'1" and monsoon dwarfed him in every way.That night he was standing at the door and the size of his feet i could not believe they had to be size 15 or 16 Addidas he had on and he waqs still around 400+ pounds at the time.Depending on foot ware ladd looks 6'9.5 to me,using him to make Andre shorter is not a good idea.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Sep/18
@tree Nice birthday cake pic. If only we knew the height of the statue next to Andre:
Click Here
Back of the photo taken in 1974... Click Here
Just for the hell of it, here's a statue that makes me look very small (guy on the right is around 5'11"), taken in 2012... Click Here
@tree Nice birthday cake pic. If only we knew the height of the statue next to Andre:
Click Here
Back of the photo taken in 1974... Click Here
Just for the hell of it, here's a statue that makes me look very small (guy on the right is around 5'11"), taken in 2012... Click Here
Halb said on 19/Sep/18
Ladd looks about the same height as Studd there?
Ladd looks about the same height as Studd there?
Duhon said on 19/Sep/18
@Canson that Griffin pic with a female fan I think you're referring to was a Photoshop fake. This is the fake one Click Here, this is the real picture Click Here
@Canson that Griffin pic with a female fan I think you're referring to was a Photoshop fake. This is the fake one Click Here, this is the real picture Click Here
Pdoggy said on 19/Sep/18
@Tree If you can't tell that John Studd is standing on something or has lifts or both then there is no hope for you. Studd actually looks taller than Ladd there. He even says he stands tall with Ernie Ladd, lol.
As far as Ron Fuller goes or anyone else none of us have a tape measure pic of them rolling out of bed first thing in the a.m. I knew when I posted that pic of Fuller just like Gretz said there would be people ready to downgrade him. You can't downgrade everyone just to suit your own agenda. If you downgrade him then you got to start downgrading everybody else and before you know it everyone is downgraded inches just so that you can say you were right about Andres actual height. Just for giggles let's say he is only 6'9" with shoes on in the pic because he has the footwear advantage. Andre is over 7' in the pic. Even with downgrading Fuller Andre is taller than you think he is and hits the mark that Rob has him at on the top of this page just over 7'.
@Tree If you can't tell that John Studd is standing on something or has lifts or both then there is no hope for you. Studd actually looks taller than Ladd there. He even says he stands tall with Ernie Ladd, lol.
As far as Ron Fuller goes or anyone else none of us have a tape measure pic of them rolling out of bed first thing in the a.m. I knew when I posted that pic of Fuller just like Gretz said there would be people ready to downgrade him. You can't downgrade everyone just to suit your own agenda. If you downgrade him then you got to start downgrading everybody else and before you know it everyone is downgraded inches just so that you can say you were right about Andres actual height. Just for giggles let's say he is only 6'9" with shoes on in the pic because he has the footwear advantage. Andre is over 7' in the pic. Even with downgrading Fuller Andre is taller than you think he is and hits the mark that Rob has him at on the top of this page just over 7'.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Sep/18
@Gretz Are you a Wayne Gretzky fan?
Andre and 5'10" Bobby Hull... Click Here
Andre and 5'11" (not 6'0") Bobby Orr (might be barefoot here)... Click Here
Andre (closer to camera) and 6'1" Terry O'Reilly... Click Here
Here's Hogan w/ 6'2" Nick Fotiu... Click Here
Hogan and your namesake, Gretzky... Click Here
Here's my brother (around 6'4") next to another French giant... "Le Gros Bill", 6'3" Jean Beliveau back in around 1992... Click Here
(Other players from left to right are 5'7" Henri Richard, 5'10" Dickie Moore, and 5'9" Bernie Geoffrion in shoes.)
Just for the hell of it, here's my bro (only 170 lbs back then/closer to camera) and me (around 6'7", 270 lbs) from 1995, when he got married... Click Here
@Gretz Are you a Wayne Gretzky fan?
Andre and 5'10" Bobby Hull... Click Here
Andre and 5'11" (not 6'0") Bobby Orr (might be barefoot here)... Click Here
Andre (closer to camera) and 6'1" Terry O'Reilly... Click Here
Here's Hogan w/ 6'2" Nick Fotiu... Click Here
Hogan and your namesake, Gretzky... Click Here
Here's my brother (around 6'4") next to another French giant... "Le Gros Bill", 6'3" Jean Beliveau back in around 1992... Click Here
(Other players from left to right are 5'7" Henri Richard, 5'10" Dickie Moore, and 5'9" Bernie Geoffrion in shoes.)
Just for the hell of it, here's my bro (only 170 lbs back then/closer to camera) and me (around 6'7", 270 lbs) from 1995, when he got married... Click Here
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
I think Gasol is max 7’0”. Odom is about 6’9” maybe 6’8.5 worst case
I think Gasol is max 7’0”. Odom is about 6’9” maybe 6’8.5 worst case
RoelC said on 18/Sep/18
tree said on 16/Sep/18
Arnie ladd looked under 6'9 with Jon Studd Click Here
We dont knpw if he was really 6ft9 often players are measured in shoes or in the morning,Studd may have big boots there or stand on a small box but maybe not..
And is there any evidence ron fuller was really 6ft9?
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Ernie Ladd was listed at 6'9" in the AFL. That doesn't mean he was measured at that height. Listed heights in football are no more accurate than the heights in pro-basketball. And like in basketball, some heights were accurate and some were clearly exaggerated.
In pro-wrestling Ernie Ladd never looked 6'9" to me. He was barely taller than John Studd. And the excuses of Studd wearing lifts really need to stop. Studd didn't need to wear lifts next to Ladd. Ladd was billed 7ft, while Studd was billed 6'9" when they tagged together.
Here are screencaps from one of their tag matches, with a clear visual of both men's footwear.
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It seems to me like they were wearing the same type of boots.
They once stood together, side-by-side in the ring, but for some reason the camera didn't show them both at the same time. With a little help from Photoshop, you can merge 2 shots together.
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Ladd barely edges out Studd.
Now compare Ladd next to McMahon with Nash next to McMahon
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It's pretty clear that Nash looks several inches taller next to McMahon than Ladd ever did.
tree said on 16/Sep/18
Arnie ladd looked under 6'9 with Jon Studd Click Here
We dont knpw if he was really 6ft9 often players are measured in shoes or in the morning,Studd may have big boots there or stand on a small box but maybe not..
And is there any evidence ron fuller was really 6ft9?
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Ernie Ladd was listed at 6'9" in the AFL. That doesn't mean he was measured at that height. Listed heights in football are no more accurate than the heights in pro-basketball. And like in basketball, some heights were accurate and some were clearly exaggerated.
In pro-wrestling Ernie Ladd never looked 6'9" to me. He was barely taller than John Studd. And the excuses of Studd wearing lifts really need to stop. Studd didn't need to wear lifts next to Ladd. Ladd was billed 7ft, while Studd was billed 6'9" when they tagged together.
Here are screencaps from one of their tag matches, with a clear visual of both men's footwear.
Click Here
Click Here
It seems to me like they were wearing the same type of boots.
They once stood together, side-by-side in the ring, but for some reason the camera didn't show them both at the same time. With a little help from Photoshop, you can merge 2 shots together.
Click Here
Ladd barely edges out Studd.
Now compare Ladd next to McMahon with Nash next to McMahon
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It's pretty clear that Nash looks several inches taller next to McMahon than Ladd ever did.
BURN IT DOWWWWWN! said on 18/Sep/18
@Sotiris Keep in mind pictures alone aren't always accurate for judging height. There's so many factors to consider with the main being footwear, camera and posture.
@Sotiris Keep in mind pictures alone aren't always accurate for judging height. There's so many factors to consider with the main being footwear, camera and posture.
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Sep/18
I dont believe Monsoon was 6ft 5 he was shorter than Chuck Wepner
I dont believe Monsoon was 6ft 5 he was shorter than Chuck Wepner
Pdoggy said on 18/Sep/18
yes it's all a giant conspiracy everyone is actually a couple inches shorter than they actually say they are. Also in on it or all the people who said Ernie Ladd was just a shade under 6'10 they were in on the conspiracy too with Ron Fuller and of course John Studd is the perfect person to compare Heights with because he wore lifts all the time to appear taller next to Andre.
I guess it comes down to this people don't want to admit they're wrong I always thought growing up as a little kid that Andre was 7 feet 4 inches tall he wasn't he was somewhere just over 7 ft tall he was not under 7 feet tall that's what people have to come to terms with when he's with people over 6 foot 8 he still has 4 plus inches on them. Here is the people over 6'8" that he has been photographed with:
Giant Baba
Ron Fuller
Uncle Elmer
Ernie Ladd
yes it's all a giant conspiracy everyone is actually a couple inches shorter than they actually say they are. Also in on it or all the people who said Ernie Ladd was just a shade under 6'10 they were in on the conspiracy too with Ron Fuller and of course John Studd is the perfect person to compare Heights with because he wore lifts all the time to appear taller next to Andre.
I guess it comes down to this people don't want to admit they're wrong I always thought growing up as a little kid that Andre was 7 feet 4 inches tall he wasn't he was somewhere just over 7 ft tall he was not under 7 feet tall that's what people have to come to terms with when he's with people over 6 foot 8 he still has 4 plus inches on them. Here is the people over 6'8" that he has been photographed with:
Giant Baba
Ron Fuller
Uncle Elmer
Ernie Ladd
Gretz said on 18/Sep/18
gravis i made a post that never showed up detailing every pic,lets just say they are weak and you are clutching at straws.lets just say that the one with Heenan proves he was 6'9" and i think he was actually closer to 6'9.5".The pic with Ali who is in the foreground is a joke and he still looks 6'9" anyway(more proof of him being slightly over that mark)if you think pictures of Ladd are going to make Andre under 7 foot forget about it it only proves Andre was 7'0"!
gravis i made a post that never showed up detailing every pic,lets just say they are weak and you are clutching at straws.lets just say that the one with Heenan proves he was 6'9" and i think he was actually closer to 6'9.5".The pic with Ali who is in the foreground is a joke and he still looks 6'9" anyway(more proof of him being slightly over that mark)if you think pictures of Ladd are going to make Andre under 7 foot forget about it it only proves Andre was 7'0"!
tree said on 18/Sep/18
Click Here Click Here
Looked 6ft11 with hogan,looks like he lost no height by WRESTLEMANIA 3
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Looked 6ft11 with hogan,looks like he lost no height by WRESTLEMANIA 3
Geoff Tooves said on 18/Sep/18
@Sotiris did u actually look at the picture u posted of Ladd with 6'4 Gorilla Monsoon? He's 4 inches taller there and would be close to 4.5 inches taller if Monsoon didn't have that little bit of hair sticking up on his head.
@Sotiris did u actually look at the picture u posted of Ladd with 6'4 Gorilla Monsoon? He's 4 inches taller there and would be close to 4.5 inches taller if Monsoon didn't have that little bit of hair sticking up on his head.
Kuoichi said on 18/Sep/18
I am sorry but in Japanese it is a newspaper article with a monument height of 209 cm.
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Baba insisted in a magazine interview that Ladd's eyes level
were higher than Baba's eyes level.
I am sorry but in Japanese it is a newspaper article with a monument height of 209 cm.
Click Here
Baba insisted in a magazine interview that Ladd's eyes level
were higher than Baba's eyes level.
Kuoichi said on 18/Sep/18
Giant Baba standing next to a monument with a height of 209 cm ,1998.
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Because this donation was donated by Baba, this monument was made to a height named after Baba’s billed height 209 cm.
Giant Baba standing next to a monument with a height of 209 cm ,1998.
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Because this donation was donated by Baba, this monument was made to a height named after Baba’s billed height 209 cm.
RP said on 17/Sep/18
Taker74...
Pau Gasol Saez
Was measured barefoot by The FIBA Euro Baskerball League (Spain) in 2006 @ 212.5 CM... 6’11-5/8”
Taker74...
Pau Gasol Saez
Was measured barefoot by The FIBA Euro Baskerball League (Spain) in 2006 @ 212.5 CM... 6’11-5/8”
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 17/Sep/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Sep/18
Ladd w/ 6'4" peak height Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here
Gorilla Moonsoon was BARE MINIMUM 6'5" at this peak.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Sep/18
Ladd w/ 6'4" peak height Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here
Gorilla Moonsoon was BARE MINIMUM 6'5" at this peak.
Aswin MK said on 16/Sep/18
Hi Rob,
I guess this interview from 1966 will give you an actual perspective of how tall he was:
Click Here
He is actually quoting 6 foot 10 as his height. I am afraid that even if he was suffering from Acromegaly, there is a huge doubt that he really was 7 foot tall at any point in time.
Hi Rob,
I guess this interview from 1966 will give you an actual perspective of how tall he was:
Click Here
He is actually quoting 6 foot 10 as his height. I am afraid that even if he was suffering from Acromegaly, there is a huge doubt that he really was 7 foot tall at any point in time.
GST said on 16/Sep/18
If we really want a accurate look we should take the best 5 pictures of Andre between 1970 - 1980 that show him at his tallest along with the best 5 pictures from that time period that shows him to not be 7’0 tall.
The photos should show the entire body of anyone included for comparison purposes (example: Wilt Chamberlin, Chuck Wepner, Bruno Samartino, etc.) as well as Andre’s entire body including foot wear. The photos should also include Andre and any person for comparison standing upright, head straight & not bent, with good posture.
Only then will we have a consistent visual case to judge, that leaves out much room for doubt, “what if”, far fetched opinions for haters / fanboys, etc.
I would suggest even having a few members assigned to teams either “for” or “against” a 7’0 tall Andre.
Is it just me, or wouldn’t this make for a interesting television show or documentary? Maybe some tv producer will create a show for this. They would probably attempt to excavate the corpse for measuring or something unprofessional before all is said and done.
If we really want a accurate look we should take the best 5 pictures of Andre between 1970 - 1980 that show him at his tallest along with the best 5 pictures from that time period that shows him to not be 7’0 tall.
The photos should show the entire body of anyone included for comparison purposes (example: Wilt Chamberlin, Chuck Wepner, Bruno Samartino, etc.) as well as Andre’s entire body including foot wear. The photos should also include Andre and any person for comparison standing upright, head straight & not bent, with good posture.
Only then will we have a consistent visual case to judge, that leaves out much room for doubt, “what if”, far fetched opinions for haters / fanboys, etc.
I would suggest even having a few members assigned to teams either “for” or “against” a 7’0 tall Andre.
Is it just me, or wouldn’t this make for a interesting television show or documentary? Maybe some tv producer will create a show for this. They would probably attempt to excavate the corpse for measuring or something unprofessional before all is said and done.
Gretz said on 16/Sep/18
62B,thanks for posting that vid I was actually kind of taken back a bit I did not think Ladd was that much taller than Kamala(who unfortunetly lost his leg a few years back,yes there are more important things than height i wish him Godspeed and I will pray for him).But I have to say Ladd dwarfs this big man,if Kamala is 6'4" ladd is at leaST 6'9".In fact Ladd keeps coming out taller than I expected he was probably 6'9.5".I seen two intervews with him and Studd in one Ladd looked 2.5 inches to 3 inches taller,in another Studd mysteriously edged him out in height.I have read in the past that Studd was not beyond enhancing his height,i think he was about 6'6.5" but he wanted to be the next giant of wrestling after Andre.so if he enhanced his foot ware with inserts or elevator boots I would not doubt it.A guy that made Willam Shatner 4 inches taller at times admitted it,and there is a pic from the outsiders and they have Patrick Swayze standing on 2 bricks so he looks like the patriarchal head of the family.in fact many actors actually have it in their contract that the leading lady can`t look taller than them Humphrey Bogart being one of the first.
62B,thanks for posting that vid I was actually kind of taken back a bit I did not think Ladd was that much taller than Kamala(who unfortunetly lost his leg a few years back,yes there are more important things than height i wish him Godspeed and I will pray for him).But I have to say Ladd dwarfs this big man,if Kamala is 6'4" ladd is at leaST 6'9".In fact Ladd keeps coming out taller than I expected he was probably 6'9.5".I seen two intervews with him and Studd in one Ladd looked 2.5 inches to 3 inches taller,in another Studd mysteriously edged him out in height.I have read in the past that Studd was not beyond enhancing his height,i think he was about 6'6.5" but he wanted to be the next giant of wrestling after Andre.so if he enhanced his foot ware with inserts or elevator boots I would not doubt it.A guy that made Willam Shatner 4 inches taller at times admitted it,and there is a pic from the outsiders and they have Patrick Swayze standing on 2 bricks so he looks like the patriarchal head of the family.in fact many actors actually have it in their contract that the leading lady can`t look taller than them Humphrey Bogart being one of the first.
Gretz said on 16/Sep/18
Gravas you are really clutching at straws with those pics,the one with Ali is worthless its not full body and Ali is in the foreground.And an old Ernie Ladd looking down at bobo brazil proves nothing,and he actually looks closer to 6'10" next to monsoon.The other pics with Kemp, Noland they are showing Ladd looking down and he makes them all look like 12 year old children.And don`t even act like you know who these men are If anything,hot diggity dog you proved Ladd to be 6'9"!Man you better bring something to the table if you want to prove Andre was under 7'0"
Gravas you are really clutching at straws with those pics,the one with Ali is worthless its not full body and Ali is in the foreground.And an old Ernie Ladd looking down at bobo brazil proves nothing,and he actually looks closer to 6'10" next to monsoon.The other pics with Kemp, Noland they are showing Ladd looking down and he makes them all look like 12 year old children.And don`t even act like you know who these men are If anything,hot diggity dog you proved Ladd to be 6'9"!Man you better bring something to the table if you want to prove Andre was under 7'0"
Pdoggy said on 16/Sep/18
@Soltiris
Your pics prove nothing. You post a lot of pics but they do nothing to prove height. Monsoon was 6'5". Why post pics where there is a huge difference in height or the people in the pics are not side by side or slouching. Quality pics not fodder. I like your personality as you don't take things so seriously but just posting a pic doesn't aid in height estimations. We should stick to pics that have Andre with over 6'6" people.
@Soltiris
Your pics prove nothing. You post a lot of pics but they do nothing to prove height. Monsoon was 6'5". Why post pics where there is a huge difference in height or the people in the pics are not side by side or slouching. Quality pics not fodder. I like your personality as you don't take things so seriously but just posting a pic doesn't aid in height estimations. We should stick to pics that have Andre with over 6'6" people.
RP said on 16/Sep/18
62B,
Yeah I noticed that about both Lex Lugar & Sting...around 1995-1996 they both switched to a thicker soled wrestling boot.
62B,
Yeah I noticed that about both Lex Lugar & Sting...around 1995-1996 they both switched to a thicker soled wrestling boot.
Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@Sotiris: the lowest I can buy for Odom is 6’8.5 maybe. Griffin’s measurement I question. I would say he’s a weak 6’8” at a low. Maybe his hair influenced the measurement as it’s very thick. I say this based on how he looks next to Deandre Jordan who measured 6’9.75 and a 6’10” female fan who posed for a pic and was 2-3” taller than him. IMHO he would be more 6’8-6’8.25 early AM if measured properly and 6’7.5-.75 at a low
@Sotiris: the lowest I can buy for Odom is 6’8.5 maybe. Griffin’s measurement I question. I would say he’s a weak 6’8” at a low. Maybe his hair influenced the measurement as it’s very thick. I say this based on how he looks next to Deandre Jordan who measured 6’9.75 and a 6’10” female fan who posed for a pic and was 2-3” taller than him. IMHO he would be more 6’8-6’8.25 early AM if measured properly and 6’7.5-.75 at a low
tree said on 16/Sep/18
Arnie ladd looked under 6'9 with Jon Studd Click Here
We dont knpw if he was really 6ft9 often players are measured in shoes or in the morning,Studd may have big boots there or stand on a small box but maybe not..
And is there any evidence ron fuller was really 6ft9?
Arnie ladd looked under 6'9 with Jon Studd Click Here
We dont knpw if he was really 6ft9 often players are measured in shoes or in the morning,Studd may have big boots there or stand on a small box but maybe not..
And is there any evidence ron fuller was really 6ft9?
RP said on 15/Sep/18
Pdoggy...Ron Fuller was only 6’7-1/2” barefoot @ age 22 as a SR in college.
Pdoggy...Ron Fuller was only 6’7-1/2” barefoot @ age 22 as a SR in college.
Gretz said on 15/Sep/18
Pdoggy,great pic with andre and Fuller if you consider footware(I am sure andre probably has thin souled boots there) I don`t see how you can deny him being 7'0"with guys 6'8"-7'1".He always comes out to 7ft. with guys in that height range.be sure someone will show a weak pic of fuller and say see he is only 6'7".
Pdoggy,great pic with andre and Fuller if you consider footware(I am sure andre probably has thin souled boots there) I don`t see how you can deny him being 7'0"with guys 6'8"-7'1".He always comes out to 7ft. with guys in that height range.be sure someone will show a weak pic of fuller and say see he is only 6'7".
Pdoggy said on 15/Sep/18
I didn't know Lamar Odom could float like that, nor did I know that he had shrunk to around 6'9" in his shoes that are floating above the ground. After pic manipulation,downgrade and a 1987 Andre with not the best posture due to his condition. Andre is still AROUND 6'11" IN THIS PIC.
I didn't know Lamar Odom could float like that, nor did I know that he had shrunk to around 6'9" in his shoes that are floating above the ground. After pic manipulation,downgrade and a 1987 Andre with not the best posture due to his condition. Andre is still AROUND 6'11" IN THIS PIC.
Taker74 said on 15/Sep/18
Pau Gasol is a tad over 7 feet
Here's 6'8" Odom w/ 6'11" Pau Gasol...
Pau Gasol is a tad over 7 feet
Here's 6'8" Odom w/ 6'11" Pau Gasol...
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Sep/18
@Pdoggy Ernie Ladd w/ 6'2.5" peak Ali... Click Here
Ladd and Bobo Brazil, 6'4" (billed as 6'6")... Click Here
Ali and Bobo... Click Here , Click Here
Ladd w/ 6'4" peak height Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here
Ladd and 6'1" Jack Kemp... Click Here
Ladd and 5'9" Dickie Post... Click Here
W/ 5'11" Bobby Heenan... Click Here
W/ 6'5" Earl Faison (number 86)... Click Here
W/ 5'6" Noland Smith... Click Here
Hot diggity dog! Looks like Ladd was 6'7" peak height.
@Pdoggy Ernie Ladd w/ 6'2.5" peak Ali... Click Here
Ladd and Bobo Brazil, 6'4" (billed as 6'6")... Click Here
Ali and Bobo... Click Here , Click Here
Ladd w/ 6'4" peak height Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here
Ladd and 6'1" Jack Kemp... Click Here
Ladd and 5'9" Dickie Post... Click Here
W/ 5'11" Bobby Heenan... Click Here
W/ 6'5" Earl Faison (number 86)... Click Here
W/ 5'6" Noland Smith... Click Here
Hot diggity dog! Looks like Ladd was 6'7" peak height.
RP said on 14/Sep/18
Sotiris
Lamar Odom was 6’8.75” barefoot & 6’9.75” in sneakers ...per Gary Vitti with the LA Lakers several years back. Could be morning measurements?
Sotiris
Lamar Odom was 6’8.75” barefoot & 6’9.75” in sneakers ...per Gary Vitti with the LA Lakers several years back. Could be morning measurements?
62B said on 14/Sep/18
Click Here I always am amused by this video. 6'4" Kamala billed as 6'10" and 330lb vs Ernie Ladd billed as 6'9" and 325lbs. Even out of his prime Ladd was over 6'7".
Click Here I always am amused by this video. 6'4" Kamala billed as 6'10" and 330lb vs Ernie Ladd billed as 6'9" and 325lbs. Even out of his prime Ladd was over 6'7".
62B said on 14/Sep/18
RP said on 13/Sep/18
62B..gotta take you at your word with peak Ted. Having never met him in person. I gave Lex 6’3” from meeting him in 1997. Maybe he would truly only measure 6’2.75” ??
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Lex was over 6'2" but not 6'3". I was a good 1/2" taller than him possibly more. For me Lex was max 6'2 3/4". I have noticed that in the mid to late 90's Lex usually wore some pretty thick soled boots that helped make him appear a little taller.
RP said on 13/Sep/18
62B..gotta take you at your word with peak Ted. Having never met him in person. I gave Lex 6’3” from meeting him in 1997. Maybe he would truly only measure 6’2.75” ??
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Lex was over 6'2" but not 6'3". I was a good 1/2" taller than him possibly more. For me Lex was max 6'2 3/4". I have noticed that in the mid to late 90's Lex usually wore some pretty thick soled boots that helped make him appear a little taller.
Gretz said on 14/Sep/18
Gravas,the 2nd to last photo you posted with Andre and Gagne is severeley tilted to the right,just look at the tilt in the window in the backround and the close hanger pole.It really off sets the balance of the photo,and Andre has that most people have when looking at smaller people his head could be tilted higher .i have no problem with andre being 7'0" and think and in fact think its good proof he was that height in the early 70`s.and you know i have debated this pic every 3-4 years for 12 years it`s all old hat.Same thing with the pic of Andre Taylor and Gagne,taylor is a good 4+ feet away but he sure looks 7'0" next to Gagne,these pics are nothing new and have been debated years ago.Same thing with chief Wahoo who I thought was 5'10" but to fit your andre is under 7'0" he is now 5'9".i now he was billed by the broncos as 6'1"(nd no I don`t think he was ever 6'1")but i fail to see him under 5'10".and for 3+years jt had Andre come out at 6'11" but since veges changed his mind all of his studies have Andre at 6'10" how convienient.
Gravas,the 2nd to last photo you posted with Andre and Gagne is severeley tilted to the right,just look at the tilt in the window in the backround and the close hanger pole.It really off sets the balance of the photo,and Andre has that most people have when looking at smaller people his head could be tilted higher .i have no problem with andre being 7'0" and think and in fact think its good proof he was that height in the early 70`s.and you know i have debated this pic every 3-4 years for 12 years it`s all old hat.Same thing with the pic of Andre Taylor and Gagne,taylor is a good 4+ feet away but he sure looks 7'0" next to Gagne,these pics are nothing new and have been debated years ago.Same thing with chief Wahoo who I thought was 5'10" but to fit your andre is under 7'0" he is now 5'9".i now he was billed by the broncos as 6'1"(nd no I don`t think he was ever 6'1")but i fail to see him under 5'10".and for 3+years jt had Andre come out at 6'11" but since veges changed his mind all of his studies have Andre at 6'10" how convienient.
Pdoggy said on 14/Sep/18
If Andre was only 6'10 or 11 then he would have only had 1 to 2 inches on Ron Fuller. Wallace Shawn...
INCONCEIVABLE!!
If Andre was only 6'10 or 11 then he would have only had 1 to 2 inches on Ron Fuller. Wallace Shawn...
INCONCEIVABLE!!
Pdoggy said on 14/Sep/18
Ron Fuller 6'9" standing perfectly straight. Probably a footwear advantage but it doesn't even matter. Here is a good example of Andre standing with a long legged 6 ft 9 man. Andre's chin and Ron's chin are roughly at the same point but because of Andres huge head he is easily 4 in taller then Ron. Here is why these pics matter we don't have to calculate someone's high heels or the car behind them or try to superimpose another picture next to it just two people standing next to each other without any camera advantage.
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Ron Fuller 6'9" standing perfectly straight. Probably a footwear advantage but it doesn't even matter. Here is a good example of Andre standing with a long legged 6 ft 9 man. Andre's chin and Ron's chin are roughly at the same point but because of Andres huge head he is easily 4 in taller then Ron. Here is why these pics matter we don't have to calculate someone's high heels or the car behind them or try to superimpose another picture next to it just two people standing next to each other without any camera advantage.
Click Here
Pdoggy said on 14/Sep/18
It never ends we must downgrade Ernie Ladd to 6 foot seven just to support the argument that Andre was under 7 ft ridiculous. Ernie Ladd height was always very well-documented it was actually stated that he was just a shade under 6 10 so to say he was six seven Peak height is just ridiculous. Again when you see pics of Andre with 6'6" guys then 6'9" guys you realize just how big he was. Ron Fuller, Ernie Ladd, Uncle Elmer all in the 6'8" to 6'10" range in the same pics with him Andre is obviously taller. Please don't bother posting a pic with John Studd who knows what he was wearing to make him look taller. Also the one still image if Ernie Ladd with the Rock proves nothing. Ernie's was at least 6'9".
It never ends we must downgrade Ernie Ladd to 6 foot seven just to support the argument that Andre was under 7 ft ridiculous. Ernie Ladd height was always very well-documented it was actually stated that he was just a shade under 6 10 so to say he was six seven Peak height is just ridiculous. Again when you see pics of Andre with 6'6" guys then 6'9" guys you realize just how big he was. Ron Fuller, Ernie Ladd, Uncle Elmer all in the 6'8" to 6'10" range in the same pics with him Andre is obviously taller. Please don't bother posting a pic with John Studd who knows what he was wearing to make him look taller. Also the one still image if Ernie Ladd with the Rock proves nothing. Ernie's was at least 6'9".
Halb said on 14/Sep/18
YOu're right Vegas, 7 feet did mean a lot in the UK, still does. Even today people mostly use imperial (the UK system) over metric (the French system). EVen though most other things in common usage are metric, but not distance.
YOu're right Vegas, 7 feet did mean a lot in the UK, still does. Even today people mostly use imperial (the UK system) over metric (the French system). EVen though most other things in common usage are metric, but not distance.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Sep/18
Here's Andre (closer to the camera) w/ another 6'5" dude, David Von Erich (billed as 6'8")
Click Here
Here's Erich w/ 6'3" Terry Gordy (billed as 6'6")... Click Here
(I already posted Gordy w/ Andre.)
Lastly, Lamar Odom is no more than 6'8", not 6'9". Here 6'8" (MAX) Blake Griffin looks taller than Odom b/c he's closer to the camera... Click Here
Here you can see that they're the same height... Click Here
Here's 6'8" Odom w/ 6'11" Pau Gasol... Click Here
Here's Andre (closer to the camera) w/ another 6'5" dude, David Von Erich (billed as 6'8")
Click Here
Here's Erich w/ 6'3" Terry Gordy (billed as 6'6")... Click Here
(I already posted Gordy w/ Andre.)
Lastly, Lamar Odom is no more than 6'8", not 6'9". Here 6'8" (MAX) Blake Griffin looks taller than Odom b/c he's closer to the camera... Click Here
Here you can see that they're the same height... Click Here
Here's 6'8" Odom w/ 6'11" Pau Gasol... Click Here
RP said on 13/Sep/18
62B..gotta take you at your word with peak Ted. Having never met him in person. I gave Lex 6’3” from meeting him in 1997. Maybe he would truly only measure 6’2.75” ??
62B..gotta take you at your word with peak Ted. Having never met him in person. I gave Lex 6’3” from meeting him in 1997. Maybe he would truly only measure 6’2.75” ??
UndertakerFrank said on 12/Sep/18
Gretz, Ladd was listed @ 6ft 9 but i believe he was more closer to 6ft 7 Football player heights are also inflated @ times Andre had about 5 inches on Wepner
Gretz, Ladd was listed @ 6ft 9 but i believe he was more closer to 6ft 7 Football player heights are also inflated @ times Andre had about 5 inches on Wepner
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Sep/18
What's the deal w/ Wahoo McDaniel having football cards w/ him being 6'3"... Click Here
or 6'1"... Click Here when he was billed as 5'11" in the world of wrestling...? Thing is, he was around 5'9". Here he is w/ 5'8" Ronnie Garvin (billed as 6'0")... Click Here
Here/s Wahoo w/ 5'9" Paul Jones... Click Here
Jones w/ Rick Rude (billed as 6'3")... Click Here
Jones w/ Ricky Steamboat (billed as 5'10")... Click Here
Wahoo w/ Tully Blanchard (billed as 5'10"/really 5'9")... Click Here
Blanchard w/ 5'10.5" Ric Flair... Click Here , Click Here
Keep that in mind when comparing 5'9" Wahoo McDaniel w/ Andre the Giant... Click Here ,
Click Here
That's 5'9"... same height as Morley Safer.
What's the deal w/ Wahoo McDaniel having football cards w/ him being 6'3"... Click Here
or 6'1"... Click Here when he was billed as 5'11" in the world of wrestling...? Thing is, he was around 5'9". Here he is w/ 5'8" Ronnie Garvin (billed as 6'0")... Click Here
Here/s Wahoo w/ 5'9" Paul Jones... Click Here
Jones w/ Rick Rude (billed as 6'3")... Click Here
Jones w/ Ricky Steamboat (billed as 5'10")... Click Here
Wahoo w/ Tully Blanchard (billed as 5'10"/really 5'9")... Click Here
Blanchard w/ 5'10.5" Ric Flair... Click Here , Click Here
Keep that in mind when comparing 5'9" Wahoo McDaniel w/ Andre the Giant... Click Here ,
Click Here
That's 5'9"... same height as Morley Safer.
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Sep/18
We've all seen Andre w/ legit 6'5" Chuck Wepner... Here's Andre w/ 6'5" Chris Taylor (legs far apart) and 5'11" (billed height) Verne Gagne in the middle back in 1976... Click Here
Legs still apart, not perfect posture... Click Here
W/ 5'10" peak height Jerry Lewis in the middle, probably wearing shoes w/ a decent heel:
Click Here
Perhaps he was 6'11" back then.
Here's Andre not looking very tall next to a supposed 5'11" Verne Gagne... Click Here
Here... Andre looking taller next to Gagne... Click Here
We've all seen Andre w/ legit 6'5" Chuck Wepner... Here's Andre w/ 6'5" Chris Taylor (legs far apart) and 5'11" (billed height) Verne Gagne in the middle back in 1976... Click Here
Legs still apart, not perfect posture... Click Here
W/ 5'10" peak height Jerry Lewis in the middle, probably wearing shoes w/ a decent heel:
Click Here
Perhaps he was 6'11" back then.
Here's Andre not looking very tall next to a supposed 5'11" Verne Gagne... Click Here
Here... Andre looking taller next to Gagne... Click Here
RP said on 11/Sep/18
Gretz is accurate on Wilt Chamberlain suffering from insomnia most of his adult life. And we all know what he did with those sleepless nights, LOL! HaHa! Wink, Wink 20K 😉 sleepless nights could explain how Wilt would occasionally measure a bit under 7’1” ?? Also could have contributed to his early passing. A lot of people swear to Wilt sometimes looking 7’2” ?? Hmmm? Maybe those were on these days he actually got some sleep?
Gretz is accurate on Wilt Chamberlain suffering from insomnia most of his adult life. And we all know what he did with those sleepless nights, LOL! HaHa! Wink, Wink 20K 😉 sleepless nights could explain how Wilt would occasionally measure a bit under 7’1” ?? Also could have contributed to his early passing. A lot of people swear to Wilt sometimes looking 7’2” ?? Hmmm? Maybe those were on these days he actually got some sleep?
62B said on 11/Sep/18
@RP. Dibiase was taller than Luger in person. Like I said easily as tall as I was
@RP. Dibiase was taller than Luger in person. Like I said easily as tall as I was
tree said on 11/Sep/18
I mean how tall was that birthday cake Click Here
Some people compared him to it and say he looks 7ft there,but how u know tha cakes size?
I mean how tall was that birthday cake Click Here
Some people compared him to it and say he looks 7ft there,but how u know tha cakes size?
JT said on 11/Sep/18
Andre in March 1970 (just shy of his 24th birthday) was being billed in the UK at 6’10” and 24 ½ stones (343 lbs.) Click Here A wrestling promotion is never going to bill a true giant like Andre at less than his actual height and weight. Jim Breaks (billed at 5'4" and 5'5") was at least 5 inches shorter than 5'8' Dynamite Kid.
If he stretched out, Andre still looks at most 6’10” from 1970 with his self-proclaimed 5’11’ aunt (~6’1” in heels) Click Here Click Here Rob has Dick Van Dyke at 6’0.5”, or ~6'1.5” in dress shoes. Richard Kiel of course measures up to how one would expect him to. Robert Wadlow (standing a bit behind his dad, who's always referred to as 5'11") of course measures up to how one would expect him to despite the extreme height difference so no excuses on why Andre looks the height that he does there.
Click Here Lamar Odom is around 6'9".
Andre in March 1970 (just shy of his 24th birthday) was being billed in the UK at 6’10” and 24 ½ stones (343 lbs.) Click Here A wrestling promotion is never going to bill a true giant like Andre at less than his actual height and weight. Jim Breaks (billed at 5'4" and 5'5") was at least 5 inches shorter than 5'8' Dynamite Kid.
If he stretched out, Andre still looks at most 6’10” from 1970 with his self-proclaimed 5’11’ aunt (~6’1” in heels) Click Here Click Here Rob has Dick Van Dyke at 6’0.5”, or ~6'1.5” in dress shoes. Richard Kiel of course measures up to how one would expect him to. Robert Wadlow (standing a bit behind his dad, who's always referred to as 5'11") of course measures up to how one would expect him to despite the extreme height difference so no excuses on why Andre looks the height that he does there.
Click Here Lamar Odom is around 6'9".
Gretz said on 10/Sep/18
Wow Vegas,why am I not shocked that you disagree with me,if you you ever did agree with me it would be a first.I work with a guy from I think is called Grimsby England and he is close to 60,he is an expert on refrigeration.I asked him if back in the day if being 7 foot tall was a big deal,he said it was like talking to a wall no body cares thats all i`m saying,you may be right all I`m saying is this guy said it was no big deal.and even though you denied it you said when you first started posting here like 10 years ago or whatever that you didn`t know if Andre was 6'9"-or 7'1".Well Rob seems to think he was at that mark at least at one point and almost 400 voters agree so i don`t think I am being unreasonable with my logic.i am still glad to here from you though you where always good at stirring things up and thats cool.
Wow Vegas,why am I not shocked that you disagree with me,if you you ever did agree with me it would be a first.I work with a guy from I think is called Grimsby England and he is close to 60,he is an expert on refrigeration.I asked him if back in the day if being 7 foot tall was a big deal,he said it was like talking to a wall no body cares thats all i`m saying,you may be right all I`m saying is this guy said it was no big deal.and even though you denied it you said when you first started posting here like 10 years ago or whatever that you didn`t know if Andre was 6'9"-or 7'1".Well Rob seems to think he was at that mark at least at one point and almost 400 voters agree so i don`t think I am being unreasonable with my logic.i am still glad to here from you though you where always good at stirring things up and thats cool.
Gretz said on 10/Sep/18
RoelC,I apologize for insulting you it was childish.And as far as thinking ANDRE HAD TO BE 7'0" that is yes that is my opinion i can not prove it.If there is proof that he was 6'11.5"-6'11.75.I could care less,7'0" is not some mystical barrier that makes Andre less than a man.but I think he was over 6'10" for sure,even in the interview with Ernie Ladd a man known too be 6'9" said he didn`t have to scrunch down in the ring with andre and that Andre was much taller than his self(if you watch any of there matches Andre is clearly taller than a 6'9"man).Like i said most younger people tend to judge his height from 1986-1992.if he change that to 1969-1976 I think a majority of people would say Andre was 7'0".I myself think he dropped under that mark in 1980-82,in the Wilt pics from 1984 he is still about 6'11.5 in some pics they look exactly the same height,in others when Andre looks down with that massive head he loses like 2 inches.and wilt was measured at Temple college at the time in a machine designed to measure his height at it was precisely 7'1.1/16".And Wilt was an insomniac and people are always their tallest after they have slept 7+ hours what if wilt was simply up all night before this measurment?People that tall can easily lose an inch or so during the course of the day,i doubt if anyone gave that consideration.Oh and I would like to point out I know Andre had a footware advantage I`m not trying to say Andre was tall as Wilt but with his boots it evened things out.and Andre was forbidden by Vince sr. to have a pic taken with someone taller than him.I think he was probably buzzed and could look Wilt in the eye so he figured what the hell.the question should be why does Arnold look so short in those pics,he certainly does not look 6'1.5 that he was measured at in like 1969?
RoelC,I apologize for insulting you it was childish.And as far as thinking ANDRE HAD TO BE 7'0" that is yes that is my opinion i can not prove it.If there is proof that he was 6'11.5"-6'11.75.I could care less,7'0" is not some mystical barrier that makes Andre less than a man.but I think he was over 6'10" for sure,even in the interview with Ernie Ladd a man known too be 6'9" said he didn`t have to scrunch down in the ring with andre and that Andre was much taller than his self(if you watch any of there matches Andre is clearly taller than a 6'9"man).Like i said most younger people tend to judge his height from 1986-1992.if he change that to 1969-1976 I think a majority of people would say Andre was 7'0".I myself think he dropped under that mark in 1980-82,in the Wilt pics from 1984 he is still about 6'11.5 in some pics they look exactly the same height,in others when Andre looks down with that massive head he loses like 2 inches.and wilt was measured at Temple college at the time in a machine designed to measure his height at it was precisely 7'1.1/16".And Wilt was an insomniac and people are always their tallest after they have slept 7+ hours what if wilt was simply up all night before this measurment?People that tall can easily lose an inch or so during the course of the day,i doubt if anyone gave that consideration.Oh and I would like to point out I know Andre had a footware advantage I`m not trying to say Andre was tall as Wilt but with his boots it evened things out.and Andre was forbidden by Vince sr. to have a pic taken with someone taller than him.I think he was probably buzzed and could look Wilt in the eye so he figured what the hell.the question should be why does Arnold look so short in those pics,he certainly does not look 6'1.5 that he was measured at in like 1969?
tree said on 10/Sep/18
Now Andre doesent look over 7ft with Wepner even if he has less footwear.
Lets not forget how many times he struggled to look over 6ft11 even at his peak,The man was never over 7ft.
Now Andre doesent look over 7ft with Wepner even if he has less footwear.
Lets not forget how many times he struggled to look over 6ft11 even at his peak,The man was never over 7ft.
RP said on 10/Sep/18
62b..
Peak Duggan: 6’2.5”...he’s still 6’1.5”
Peak: Teddy D: 6’2.75” ..now he’s 6’0.75”, maybe 6’1” w/perfect posture...Ted now in his mid 60’s has bad neck settling & slouching.
62b..
Peak Duggan: 6’2.5”...he’s still 6’1.5”
Peak: Teddy D: 6’2.75” ..now he’s 6’0.75”, maybe 6’1” w/perfect posture...Ted now in his mid 60’s has bad neck settling & slouching.
Guanzo said on 9/Sep/18
6'10.5" peak
6'9.5" 80s and 90s.
6'10.5" peak
6'9.5" 80s and 90s.
Gretz said on 9/Sep/18
Gravis,i seen the pic you posted with Backlund and Bockwinckle and it is not a full body pic so that means it means nothing.Backlund was listed at 6'1" even when he was an ncaa wrestler,why would they lie about his height?and even though i admitted before cinder block pics are not always accurate,the one where he is posing with Andre from 1978 shows him dead on 6'1" and Andre comes out to a dead on 7'0".and yes i`m taking into account their footware and Andre had practically a 1/4 inch soul so anyone he poses with he is actually 1/2 to an inch taller.Look at the pic with Bobby Hull(5-10")measured many times he was incredibly strong and his slap shot an amazing 118m.p.h,so scientists measured everything you can think of about him,I am sure he was 5'10" well Andre has at least 15 inches on him.google if you want to see it I posted it many times before.
Gravis,i seen the pic you posted with Backlund and Bockwinckle and it is not a full body pic so that means it means nothing.Backlund was listed at 6'1" even when he was an ncaa wrestler,why would they lie about his height?and even though i admitted before cinder block pics are not always accurate,the one where he is posing with Andre from 1978 shows him dead on 6'1" and Andre comes out to a dead on 7'0".and yes i`m taking into account their footware and Andre had practically a 1/4 inch soul so anyone he poses with he is actually 1/2 to an inch taller.Look at the pic with Bobby Hull(5-10")measured many times he was incredibly strong and his slap shot an amazing 118m.p.h,so scientists measured everything you can think of about him,I am sure he was 5'10" well Andre has at least 15 inches on him.google if you want to see it I posted it many times before.
tree said on 9/Sep/18
So how do people know how tall was that kick?lol
So how do people know how tall was that kick?lol
Vegas' said on 9/Sep/18
Gretz said on 8/Sep/18
they didn`t post my response,all I can tell you is people who lived in europe in the 1960`s that I know and yes they are still alive,have no clue 7'0" is a big deal to this day.
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I live in Ireland and I can confirm Roels post. UK and Ireland didn't even join the EU until 1973 so the metric system would have been a completely alien concept in those countries until after that period. Vast cultural, political, social and obviously language differences between Rep. Ireland and countries in mainland western Europe like say Germany or Italy but that's not discussion at hand.
My parents generation still use imperial system to this day even though metric system is now everywhere here. Even I, born in 1970s still would use imperial system for heights before metric and would be calculating in my head how many miles 293km is or how tall 136cm is in feet and inches.
Does Kent Walton on world of sport wrestling use the metric system at all and he was still commentating on national tv nearly two decades after Andre appeared in UK. He described Haystacks as 6'11 every week not 211cm and Pat Roach as 6'5 not 196cm. A wrestlers weight was always in stones (14lb in a stone) not kg.
So yeah the argument that 6 foot or 7 foot mean nothing in UK or Ireland would not be correct.
Gretz said on 8/Sep/18
they didn`t post my response,all I can tell you is people who lived in europe in the 1960`s that I know and yes they are still alive,have no clue 7'0" is a big deal to this day.
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I live in Ireland and I can confirm Roels post. UK and Ireland didn't even join the EU until 1973 so the metric system would have been a completely alien concept in those countries until after that period. Vast cultural, political, social and obviously language differences between Rep. Ireland and countries in mainland western Europe like say Germany or Italy but that's not discussion at hand.
My parents generation still use imperial system to this day even though metric system is now everywhere here. Even I, born in 1970s still would use imperial system for heights before metric and would be calculating in my head how many miles 293km is or how tall 136cm is in feet and inches.
Does Kent Walton on world of sport wrestling use the metric system at all and he was still commentating on national tv nearly two decades after Andre appeared in UK. He described Haystacks as 6'11 every week not 211cm and Pat Roach as 6'5 not 196cm. A wrestlers weight was always in stones (14lb in a stone) not kg.
So yeah the argument that 6 foot or 7 foot mean nothing in UK or Ireland would not be correct.
RoelC said on 9/Sep/18
tree said on 7/Sep/18
Anyone has a photo of Wepner and Andres footwear?If wepner shoes are thicker he may look 7ft there.
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I've posted these on August 29.
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tree said on 7/Sep/18
Anyone has a photo of Wepner and Andres footwear?If wepner shoes are thicker he may look 7ft there.
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I've posted these on August 29.
Click Here
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RP said on 9/Sep/18
Gretz,
That show & film is from a wrestling promoters event in Montreal, Canada as I recall. Andre was measured at ALMOST 7’1-1/2” in his shoes or wrestling boots. It was in CMs, I think it officially converted out to 7’1-1/4” or 7’1-3/8” (it was not a barefoot measurement though), from what people who have seen it have said. Haystack weighed in around 550 or 560 lbs ...and he chuckled & said “I’ve been on a diet” LOL! I think it was officially 556 lbs with his shoes & clothes on.
Gretz,
That show & film is from a wrestling promoters event in Montreal, Canada as I recall. Andre was measured at ALMOST 7’1-1/2” in his shoes or wrestling boots. It was in CMs, I think it officially converted out to 7’1-1/4” or 7’1-3/8” (it was not a barefoot measurement though), from what people who have seen it have said. Haystack weighed in around 550 or 560 lbs ...and he chuckled & said “I’ve been on a diet” LOL! I think it was officially 556 lbs with his shoes & clothes on.
Sotiris Gravas said on 9/Sep/18
Call me crazy... but it looks like Andre is standing on his tippy toes in this pic w/ a young Rick Martel... Click Here What do you guys think?
Here's Billy Gunn on his toes... Click Here
Curt Henning on his toes with DDP in cowboy boots... Click Here
Jax Dane on toes w/ Crimson... Click Here
Cody Hall on his toes to look as tall as Kevin Nash... Click Here
And finally... our good friend, Nicolas Sarkozy, on his tippy toes... Click Here
Call me crazy... but it looks like Andre is standing on his tippy toes in this pic w/ a young Rick Martel... Click Here What do you guys think?
Here's Billy Gunn on his toes... Click Here
Curt Henning on his toes with DDP in cowboy boots... Click Here
Jax Dane on toes w/ Crimson... Click Here
Cody Hall on his toes to look as tall as Kevin Nash... Click Here
And finally... our good friend, Nicolas Sarkozy, on his tippy toes... Click Here
62B said on 8/Sep/18
@ Sotiris. Every time you want to bring up Dibiase as being 6'2" I will tell you that you are wrong. He was easily my height, and actually I believe he edged me out. Dibiase and Duggan are of similar height, but Dibiase was the taller of the two. Duggan was likely a fraction over 6'2".
@ Sotiris. Every time you want to bring up Dibiase as being 6'2" I will tell you that you are wrong. He was easily my height, and actually I believe he edged me out. Dibiase and Duggan are of similar height, but Dibiase was the taller of the two. Duggan was likely a fraction over 6'2".
Pdoggy said on 8/Sep/18
@Sotiris
If that is a 6'6" door then the doorway is most likely an inch more. Most doors in the U.S. are 80" to 81" so the inside height of the doorway needs to allow the door to swing shut without rubbing. Depending on trim around doors the total measurement is 7'. I just measured the doorway plus the trim into my kitchen and it was just under 7'.
@Sotiris
If that is a 6'6" door then the doorway is most likely an inch more. Most doors in the U.S. are 80" to 81" so the inside height of the doorway needs to allow the door to swing shut without rubbing. Depending on trim around doors the total measurement is 7'. I just measured the doorway plus the trim into my kitchen and it was just under 7'.
Pdoggy said on 8/Sep/18
@Roelc
You proved it or should I say reiterated Andre being 7'+ by your pics of him and Wepner. The reason I say you have once again displayed that truth is that Rob who is fairly conservative has him at 7'. Honestly you did the work for me.
@Roelc
You proved it or should I say reiterated Andre being 7'+ by your pics of him and Wepner. The reason I say you have once again displayed that truth is that Rob who is fairly conservative has him at 7'. Honestly you did the work for me.
Gretz said on 8/Sep/18
they didn`t post my response,all I can tell you is people who lived in europe in the 1960`s that I know and yes they are still alive,have no clue 7'0" is a big deal to this day.in fact they where wondering what I was talking about and gave me a blank stare when i told them it was in reference to a person.look if you think andre was 6'10 thats fine,but with people of known height late 60`s early 70`s at least he was in my mind at least 7'0" probably 7'1" just out of bed in 1972.i think the cake pics prove this,and if I have to explain this you don`t now enough about andre Anyway he was my fave wrestler since 1974(when he always wore a brown vest to the ring)and I seen him wrestle and shook his massive hand at the spectrum when I was 12.and have over 300 of his matches on video,So i think my opinion on his height was pretty solid.He is by far the biggest human I ever met,the fact that he was even estimated by Meltzer at 6'11.5" tells me in his prime he was a 7 footer.Anyone who thinks otherwise is looking mainly at stuff from the late 80`s to early 90`s.When age and poor posture and bumps caught up with him
they didn`t post my response,all I can tell you is people who lived in europe in the 1960`s that I know and yes they are still alive,have no clue 7'0" is a big deal to this day.in fact they where wondering what I was talking about and gave me a blank stare when i told them it was in reference to a person.look if you think andre was 6'10 thats fine,but with people of known height late 60`s early 70`s at least he was in my mind at least 7'0" probably 7'1" just out of bed in 1972.i think the cake pics prove this,and if I have to explain this you don`t now enough about andre Anyway he was my fave wrestler since 1974(when he always wore a brown vest to the ring)and I seen him wrestle and shook his massive hand at the spectrum when I was 12.and have over 300 of his matches on video,So i think my opinion on his height was pretty solid.He is by far the biggest human I ever met,the fact that he was even estimated by Meltzer at 6'11.5" tells me in his prime he was a 7 footer.Anyone who thinks otherwise is looking mainly at stuff from the late 80`s to early 90`s.When age and poor posture and bumps caught up with him
ReturnofG said on 7/Sep/18
7'1.5 at peak.
7'1.5 at peak.
Floydthe barber said on 7/Sep/18
Why do you think Andre looks so tall in that picture with Morley Safer? If Safer is 5'9 then Andre is around 7'5 . You all have a great site. Thanks.
Why do you think Andre looks so tall in that picture with Morley Safer? If Safer is 5'9 then Andre is around 7'5 . You all have a great site. Thanks.
tree said on 7/Sep/18
Anyone has a photo of Wepner and Andres footwear?If wepner shoes are thicker he may look 7ft there.
Anyone has a photo of Wepner and Andres footwear?If wepner shoes are thicker he may look 7ft there.
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Sep/18
Andre w/ 5'8" Joey Bishop... Click Here Not looking very tall here.
I think this is also Bishop w/ Andre... Click Here
Andre and 5'4.5" John Mancer (I think that's a 6'6" door, not 6'8")... Click Here
Andre w/ 6'6" Giant Baba... Click Here
W/ Big Boss Man... Click Here Interestingly... Click Here
The WWF billed him as 6'6".
W/ 6'2" Ted DiBiase... Click Here , Click Here
DiBiase was the same height as 6'2" Jim Duggan... Click Here
This is DiBiase (now 6'0.75") next to Fred Ottman (still 6'3")... Click Here
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DiBiase, Andre et al. Click Here , Click Here
6'2" DiBiase and 5'10" Bob Backlund... Click Here
Just a reminder, Andre w/ 5'10" Backlund... Click Here
Andre w/ 5'8" Joey Bishop... Click Here Not looking very tall here.
I think this is also Bishop w/ Andre... Click Here
Andre and 5'4.5" John Mancer (I think that's a 6'6" door, not 6'8")... Click Here
Andre w/ 6'6" Giant Baba... Click Here
W/ Big Boss Man... Click Here Interestingly... Click Here
The WWF billed him as 6'6".
W/ 6'2" Ted DiBiase... Click Here , Click Here
DiBiase was the same height as 6'2" Jim Duggan... Click Here
This is DiBiase (now 6'0.75") next to Fred Ottman (still 6'3")... Click Here
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DiBiase, Andre et al. Click Here , Click Here
6'2" DiBiase and 5'10" Bob Backlund... Click Here
Just a reminder, Andre w/ 5'10" Backlund... Click Here
RoelC said on 6/Sep/18
Gretz said on 5/Sep/18
I think as far as billing goes,andre may well have been measured at like 6'10" at 18 and continued to grow.And promoters just kept the old billed hight,it was the metric system so no one cared about a 7'0" listing.I know most people with acromegely can grow till like 24.so I think Andre was 90% a 7 footer by 20.and almost sure he was 100% that within a year the pics from 1969 confirm this to me he was 22-23 by then.
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Sorry, but the excuse of old billings and metric systems makes no sense!
In the UK they used the imperial system so 7ft definitely meant something over there!
He also never wrestled in the UK before 1969, so he didn’t have any old billings over there. And even if they did use old billings from France, why 6’10? The majority of billings from France were over 2m10. He was billed 2m10, 140kg in early 1966. When he reached 20 years of age, the billing changed to 2m11, 144kg. And this billing was used for several years. In 1969 he was billed at 2m12, 146kg just before he left to wrestle in the UK. So far I’ve only found 1 or 2 billings that have him at 2m08.
You can tell the UK didn’t use old billings, as they clearly didn’t use an old weight for Andre. They billed him at 24 stones. That’s equal to 152 kg. Heavier than he was ever billed in France at the time.
His debut in the UK was carefully planned. I highly doubt wrestling promoters like Jack Dale, Les Martin, George de Relwyskow & Arthur Green didn’t know how tall Andre really was. It’s not like those guys were amateurs.
So far I've seen only one promoter that billed Andre at 7ft in 1969.
When he came to the WWF for the first time, they billed him at 7’4”. The same billing he had in the years before. Hard to believe that Vince McMahon Sr. just used an old billing and not checking how tall Andre really was. Probably the first thing they did was measure & weigh Andre.
Gretz said on 5/Sep/18
I think as far as billing goes,andre may well have been measured at like 6'10" at 18 and continued to grow.And promoters just kept the old billed hight,it was the metric system so no one cared about a 7'0" listing.I know most people with acromegely can grow till like 24.so I think Andre was 90% a 7 footer by 20.and almost sure he was 100% that within a year the pics from 1969 confirm this to me he was 22-23 by then.
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Sorry, but the excuse of old billings and metric systems makes no sense!
In the UK they used the imperial system so 7ft definitely meant something over there!
He also never wrestled in the UK before 1969, so he didn’t have any old billings over there. And even if they did use old billings from France, why 6’10? The majority of billings from France were over 2m10. He was billed 2m10, 140kg in early 1966. When he reached 20 years of age, the billing changed to 2m11, 144kg. And this billing was used for several years. In 1969 he was billed at 2m12, 146kg just before he left to wrestle in the UK. So far I’ve only found 1 or 2 billings that have him at 2m08.
You can tell the UK didn’t use old billings, as they clearly didn’t use an old weight for Andre. They billed him at 24 stones. That’s equal to 152 kg. Heavier than he was ever billed in France at the time.
His debut in the UK was carefully planned. I highly doubt wrestling promoters like Jack Dale, Les Martin, George de Relwyskow & Arthur Green didn’t know how tall Andre really was. It’s not like those guys were amateurs.
So far I've seen only one promoter that billed Andre at 7ft in 1969.
When he came to the WWF for the first time, they billed him at 7’4”. The same billing he had in the years before. Hard to believe that Vince McMahon Sr. just used an old billing and not checking how tall Andre really was. Probably the first thing they did was measure & weigh Andre.
RoelC said on 6/Sep/18
Pdoggy said on 5/Sep/18
@Roelc
I really don't see Wepner standing any straighter. He also has a foot wear advantage. If you see a 6 inch difference then he is at 7'+. Thank you.
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I've shown you proof that Wepner in an interview stated he was 6'5" and in the picture of Andre & Wepner where the footwear is shown, Wepner is not in cowboy boots and Andre is not barefoot as you initially claimed. It certainly not clear that Wepner has a footwear advantage there.
Now why don't you show me your proof. Where's Wepner's 6'6.5" measurement you claim he had.
Pdoggy said on 5/Sep/18
@Roelc
I really don't see Wepner standing any straighter. He also has a foot wear advantage. If you see a 6 inch difference then he is at 7'+. Thank you.
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I've shown you proof that Wepner in an interview stated he was 6'5" and in the picture of Andre & Wepner where the footwear is shown, Wepner is not in cowboy boots and Andre is not barefoot as you initially claimed. It certainly not clear that Wepner has a footwear advantage there.
Now why don't you show me your proof. Where's Wepner's 6'6.5" measurement you claim he had.
RP said on 6/Sep/18
Gretz, correct...promoters will hold onto billed weights for years...many years! Like sometimes as long as 10 years straight. So, I’m sure height billings worked the same, when we are talking about an inch or so.
Gretz, correct...promoters will hold onto billed weights for years...many years! Like sometimes as long as 10 years straight. So, I’m sure height billings worked the same, when we are talking about an inch or so.
Pdoggy said on 5/Sep/18
@Roelc
I really don't see Wepner standing any straighter. He also has a foot wear advantage. If you see a 6 inch difference then he is at 7'+. Thank you.
@Roelc
I really don't see Wepner standing any straighter. He also has a foot wear advantage. If you see a 6 inch difference then he is at 7'+. Thank you.
Gretz said on 5/Sep/18
I think as far as billing goes,andre may well have been measured at like 6'10" at 18 and continued to grow.And promoters just kept the old billed hight,it was the metric system so no one cared about a 7'0" listing.I know most people with acromegely can grow till like 24.so I think Andre was 90% a 7 footer by 20.and almost sure he was 100% that within a year the pics from 1969 confirm this to me he was 22-23 by then.
I think as far as billing goes,andre may well have been measured at like 6'10" at 18 and continued to grow.And promoters just kept the old billed hight,it was the metric system so no one cared about a 7'0" listing.I know most people with acromegely can grow till like 24.so I think Andre was 90% a 7 footer by 20.and almost sure he was 100% that within a year the pics from 1969 confirm this to me he was 22-23 by then.
RoelC said on 4/Sep/18
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
@roelc
Andre also had a newspaper clipping of him at 19 at 7 feet tall with Philip brezy I believe he was a young child so you can't ignore one listing for another I do believe a promoter would want someone to be bigger than what they actually are or billed bigger however in this case Andre was 7 feet at 18 years old as part of his biography it's fact you just have to deal with that. He also claimed 2.14m as well. Andre towered a peak Hogan in 1978. By at least 6 to 7 inches. Per Rob Hogan was 6'6" even though he claimed 1 inch more. Hogan said upon meeting Andre this guy has 6"on me.
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Pdoggy I know about that newspaper clipping. It had him at 7ft and 350lbs. Both taller & heavier than what promoters were billing him at the time. But I guess the promoters didn't know how tall & heavy Andre was at the time and the sports journalist who wrote that article did.
In wrestling the lowest billing you can find, is mostly the one closest to the truth. If you wanna believe a 7ft giant would get listed 6'10" in pro-wrestling than go ahead.
A legit 7-footer is extremely rare in pro-wrestling. Even guys as low as 6'5" would sometimes get a 7ft listing to sell them as Giants. That's why I find it so remarkable that Andre at a young age could still have listings as low as 6'10". They could've easily billed him at 7ft and gotten away with it. So far I could only find one promoter in the UK that actually billed him at 7ft. The rest either had him at 6'10" or 6'11".
In that 1966 training video Andre himself states his height at 2m10. He was 19 years old there, so again he was not 7ft at age 18.
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
@roelc
Andre also had a newspaper clipping of him at 19 at 7 feet tall with Philip brezy I believe he was a young child so you can't ignore one listing for another I do believe a promoter would want someone to be bigger than what they actually are or billed bigger however in this case Andre was 7 feet at 18 years old as part of his biography it's fact you just have to deal with that. He also claimed 2.14m as well. Andre towered a peak Hogan in 1978. By at least 6 to 7 inches. Per Rob Hogan was 6'6" even though he claimed 1 inch more. Hogan said upon meeting Andre this guy has 6"on me.
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Pdoggy I know about that newspaper clipping. It had him at 7ft and 350lbs. Both taller & heavier than what promoters were billing him at the time. But I guess the promoters didn't know how tall & heavy Andre was at the time and the sports journalist who wrote that article did.
In wrestling the lowest billing you can find, is mostly the one closest to the truth. If you wanna believe a 7ft giant would get listed 6'10" in pro-wrestling than go ahead.
A legit 7-footer is extremely rare in pro-wrestling. Even guys as low as 6'5" would sometimes get a 7ft listing to sell them as Giants. That's why I find it so remarkable that Andre at a young age could still have listings as low as 6'10". They could've easily billed him at 7ft and gotten away with it. So far I could only find one promoter in the UK that actually billed him at 7ft. The rest either had him at 6'10" or 6'11".
In that 1966 training video Andre himself states his height at 2m10. He was 19 years old there, so again he was not 7ft at age 18.
RoelC said on 4/Sep/18
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
Okay not to beat a dead horse here but wepner does not come to Andres eye level with the Photoshop that's his hair not the top of his head he's like in the middle of Andres nose this is getting worse and worse for the Andre haters
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Here the same pic with a line drawn from the top of Wepner's head. That's just below Andre's eyelevel, which is what I said in my previous post (you can read English I presume?).
That's about a 6" difference and I believe Wepner can straighten his back a little more.
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
Okay not to beat a dead horse here but wepner does not come to Andres eye level with the Photoshop that's his hair not the top of his head he's like in the middle of Andres nose this is getting worse and worse for the Andre haters
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Here the same pic with a line drawn from the top of Wepner's head. That's just below Andre's eyelevel, which is what I said in my previous post (you can read English I presume?).
That's about a 6" difference and I believe Wepner can straighten his back a little more.
Gretz said on 4/Sep/18
Sotiris Gravas,that pic you posted was the exact pic i was thinking of to illustrate how much height Andre lost 6'9.5" looks spot on and it is not unreasonable to think a giant with decades of bumps and back problems lost 2.5-3 inches in height.
Sotiris Gravas,that pic you posted was the exact pic i was thinking of to illustrate how much height Andre lost 6'9.5" looks spot on and it is not unreasonable to think a giant with decades of bumps and back problems lost 2.5-3 inches in height.
Gretz said on 4/Sep/18
RP,if i had a height chart like you posted mine would mirror your`s.And Pdoggy even when Hogan wins the belt in 1984,Andre looks a solid 6 inches taller than Hogan when he is pouring champagne on his head.People tend to forget that pics in the ring could skeuw the wrestlers height(depending on camera angles).And backstage on even ground tends to be more acurate.
RP,if i had a height chart like you posted mine would mirror your`s.And Pdoggy even when Hogan wins the belt in 1984,Andre looks a solid 6 inches taller than Hogan when he is pouring champagne on his head.People tend to forget that pics in the ring could skeuw the wrestlers height(depending on camera angles).And backstage on even ground tends to be more acurate.
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
Okay not to beat a dead horse here but wepner does not come to Andres eye level with the Photoshop that's his hair not the top of his head he's like in the middle of Andres nose this is getting worse and worse for the Andre haters
Okay not to beat a dead horse here but wepner does not come to Andres eye level with the Photoshop that's his hair not the top of his head he's like in the middle of Andres nose this is getting worse and worse for the Andre haters
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
@roelc
Andre also had a newspaper clipping of him at 19 at 7 feet tall with Philip brezy I believe he was a young child so you can't ignore one listing for another I do believe a promoter would want someone to be bigger than what they actually are or billed bigger however in this case Andre was 7 feet at 18 years old as part of his biography it's fact you just have to deal with that. He also claimed 2.14m as well. Andre towered a peak Hogan in 1978. By at least 6 to 7 inches. Per Rob Hogan was 6'6" even though he claimed 1 inch more. Hogan said upon meeting Andre this guy has 6"on me.
Personally the 2.14m is where he stopped just over 7 feet. Too many people of known height like Big Cat, Giant baba,Elmer and Ron Fuller all in that 6'8" to 6'10" range all claim or show from pics that Andre's height is best gauged with people in that height range. Ron Fuller specifically says Andre was 7 foot something. He doesn't Kayfabe. He just was not an ordinary 7 footer.
@roelc
Andre also had a newspaper clipping of him at 19 at 7 feet tall with Philip brezy I believe he was a young child so you can't ignore one listing for another I do believe a promoter would want someone to be bigger than what they actually are or billed bigger however in this case Andre was 7 feet at 18 years old as part of his biography it's fact you just have to deal with that. He also claimed 2.14m as well. Andre towered a peak Hogan in 1978. By at least 6 to 7 inches. Per Rob Hogan was 6'6" even though he claimed 1 inch more. Hogan said upon meeting Andre this guy has 6"on me.
Personally the 2.14m is where he stopped just over 7 feet. Too many people of known height like Big Cat, Giant baba,Elmer and Ron Fuller all in that 6'8" to 6'10" range all claim or show from pics that Andre's height is best gauged with people in that height range. Ron Fuller specifically says Andre was 7 foot something. He doesn't Kayfabe. He just was not an ordinary 7 footer.
Pdoggy said on 3/Sep/18
@roelc
You just proved my point again wepner was measured at six six and a half before the Ali fight so with the Footwear Advantage he has Plus the difference that you say that he has that puts him over 7 ft thank you
@roelc
You just proved my point again wepner was measured at six six and a half before the Ali fight so with the Footwear Advantage he has Plus the difference that you say that he has that puts him over 7 ft thank you
RP said on 3/Sep/18
Gretz...+ one on that opinion. Also,,, Mania 3 was 1987.
You’re correct IMO.
‘70-‘80: 7’0”-7’0.25” Andre himself stated 7’0.25” (in CMs) -Metric system...in the early 1970’s! He legit did!
By 1984: 6’11.5”
By 1987: 6’10.75” to 6’11”
By 1990: 6’10”
By 1992: 6’9.5 due to posture & his spine being completely trashed.
Gretz...+ one on that opinion. Also,,, Mania 3 was 1987.
You’re correct IMO.
‘70-‘80: 7’0”-7’0.25” Andre himself stated 7’0.25” (in CMs) -Metric system...in the early 1970’s! He legit did!
By 1984: 6’11.5”
By 1987: 6’10.75” to 6’11”
By 1990: 6’10”
By 1992: 6’9.5 due to posture & his spine being completely trashed.
RP said on 2/Sep/18
Andre did indeed look a STRONG 6’11” + to maybe 7’0” in the pic with 5’9” Safer. Can we confirm Safer was indeed 5’9” in the early 1990’s ??
Andre did indeed look a STRONG 6’11” + to maybe 7’0” in the pic with 5’9” Safer. Can we confirm Safer was indeed 5’9” in the early 1990’s ??
Gretz said on 2/Sep/18
This is what I think is the Biggest with determining a peak height for Andre`s height,he was only 7'0" or so for about a decade(1969-1978)and very close to that till at least the wilt pics in 1984.by wrestlemania 3(1986?)many people backstage thought he was about 6'10".75 and that actually seems about right to me.Now he was still the largest man of that height for all time most likely.what I am trying to say is he was so large it didn`t matter at that point in time.Only when you see him with terry gordy in 1991 does he really look like he lost significant height.And it is noticable he can`t even make his back straight anymore and looks more like 6'9.5"to me.
This is what I think is the Biggest with determining a peak height for Andre`s height,he was only 7'0" or so for about a decade(1969-1978)and very close to that till at least the wilt pics in 1984.by wrestlemania 3(1986?)many people backstage thought he was about 6'10".75 and that actually seems about right to me.Now he was still the largest man of that height for all time most likely.what I am trying to say is he was so large it didn`t matter at that point in time.Only when you see him with terry gordy in 1991 does he really look like he lost significant height.And it is noticable he can`t even make his back straight anymore and looks more like 6'9.5"to me.
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Sep/18
Here's Andre slouching next to his 6'1" manager, Frank Valois, looking about 6'9":
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Here Andre is standing perfectly straight and looks at least 6'10":
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Frank Valois card lists him as 6'1", not the 6'2" ppl always say he was... Click Here
Here's Nick Bockwinkel, billed as 5'10" next to Bob Backlund, who doesn't look more than 5'10". Remember that when comparing Backlund to Andre... Click Here
Here's Bruno Sammartino looking very short next to Vince... Click Here
Here... magically taller... Click Here
Remember that when comparing Bruno to Andre.
Here's Andre slouching next to his 6'1" manager, Frank Valois, looking about 6'9":
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Here Andre is standing perfectly straight and looks at least 6'10":
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Frank Valois card lists him as 6'1", not the 6'2" ppl always say he was... Click Here
Here's Nick Bockwinkel, billed as 5'10" next to Bob Backlund, who doesn't look more than 5'10". Remember that when comparing Backlund to Andre... Click Here
Here's Bruno Sammartino looking very short next to Vince... Click Here
Here... magically taller... Click Here
Remember that when comparing Bruno to Andre.
RP said on 1/Sep/18
Andre did only look 6’10-1/2” with 6’5” Wepner.
Andre did only look 6’10-1/2” with 6’5” Wepner.
Halb said on 1/Sep/18
Did André ever look 7 inches taller than Chuck. He normally looked around 4/5".
Did André ever look 7 inches taller than Chuck. He normally looked around 4/5".
RoelC said on 1/Sep/18
Pdoggy said on 31/Aug/18
@RoelC
I said there was at least a 4 inch difference with his head tilted down also it's a terrible picture for comparing height anyway.there are many other pics which Andre looks at least 6 to 7 inches taller.
Andre was 7ft tall when he was 18 years old. The issue of his head being so big not adding to his height you must take with a grain of salt his chin was so much lower so many claim that if a 6-foot person came up to another 7-footer at their chin there's no way they could be 7 feet that is the whole point his head was over 13 in long from chin to the top of his head.
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Pdoggy, I've never seen a pic where Andre looks 6-7 inches taller than Wepner, or any other person in Wepner's height range (like Hogan, Chris Taylor, Don Leo Jonathan). Most of those guys came up to Andre's eye level. And yes Andre's head was huge and it certainly adds to his height. But most of the size of Andre's head was from the eyes down. Eyelevel to chin covered roughly 60% of his total head length.
So if someone came up to Andre's eyelevel, that would not result in a 7-inch difference. Unless Andre had a 17,5 inch long head.
The pic with Wepner might not be perfect, but apart from tilting his head, Andre stands as straight as an arrow. With photoshop you can tilt Andre's head upwards, to give you a rough idea how the difference would look without the head tilt.
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In this pic I've tilted Andre's head and he now stands with a perfectly straight posture. Chuck comes out just below Andre's eyelevel, and might I add that Chuck could still straighten his back a little bit more and squeeze out maybe another 1/2 inch. The distance from Andre's eyelevel to the top of his head is roughly 5 inches. So I don't see more than 5,5 inches between Andre & Chuck there.
The length of Andre's head was not over 13 inches long. More realistically would be a length of 12 or 12,5 inches. That's still gigantic by the way.
Andre still got 6'10" billings in the UK when he was 23 years old, so he obviously wasn't 7ft tall at the age of 18.
Pdoggy said on 31/Aug/18
@RoelC
I said there was at least a 4 inch difference with his head tilted down also it's a terrible picture for comparing height anyway.there are many other pics which Andre looks at least 6 to 7 inches taller.
Andre was 7ft tall when he was 18 years old. The issue of his head being so big not adding to his height you must take with a grain of salt his chin was so much lower so many claim that if a 6-foot person came up to another 7-footer at their chin there's no way they could be 7 feet that is the whole point his head was over 13 in long from chin to the top of his head.
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Pdoggy, I've never seen a pic where Andre looks 6-7 inches taller than Wepner, or any other person in Wepner's height range (like Hogan, Chris Taylor, Don Leo Jonathan). Most of those guys came up to Andre's eye level. And yes Andre's head was huge and it certainly adds to his height. But most of the size of Andre's head was from the eyes down. Eyelevel to chin covered roughly 60% of his total head length.
So if someone came up to Andre's eyelevel, that would not result in a 7-inch difference. Unless Andre had a 17,5 inch long head.
The pic with Wepner might not be perfect, but apart from tilting his head, Andre stands as straight as an arrow. With photoshop you can tilt Andre's head upwards, to give you a rough idea how the difference would look without the head tilt.
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In this pic I've tilted Andre's head and he now stands with a perfectly straight posture. Chuck comes out just below Andre's eyelevel, and might I add that Chuck could still straighten his back a little bit more and squeeze out maybe another 1/2 inch. The distance from Andre's eyelevel to the top of his head is roughly 5 inches. So I don't see more than 5,5 inches between Andre & Chuck there.
The length of Andre's head was not over 13 inches long. More realistically would be a length of 12 or 12,5 inches. That's still gigantic by the way.
Andre still got 6'10" billings in the UK when he was 23 years old, so he obviously wasn't 7ft tall at the age of 18.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 1/Sep/18
@Alfred
Sorry but 7'2" is a joke.
@Alfred
Sorry but 7'2" is a joke.
JT said on 1/Sep/18
If Andre raised his head with Wepner, I don’t see him any getting taller than this Click Here Andre was still not known too well as of 1976 as he's referred to as “Andre the Great” in the photo getting his blood pressure taken with Wepner Click Here
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Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Aug/18
Andre (good posture/much closer to the camera) next to 5'9" Morley Safer back in 1985:
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So Safer is 5’9” and your dad is 5’9” Click Here Time for a DOWNGRADE Rob - of Sotiris :)
If Andre raised his head with Wepner, I don’t see him any getting taller than this Click Here Andre was still not known too well as of 1976 as he's referred to as “Andre the Great” in the photo getting his blood pressure taken with Wepner Click Here
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Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Aug/18
Andre (good posture/much closer to the camera) next to 5'9" Morley Safer back in 1985:
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So Safer is 5’9” and your dad is 5’9” Click Here Time for a DOWNGRADE Rob - of Sotiris :)
Sotiris Gravas said on 31/Aug/18
@aaronius Cool moniker; sounds Greek. As for Lewis, Rob Paul, the editor of CelebHeights, has him at 6'4.75".
@aaronius Cool moniker; sounds Greek. As for Lewis, Rob Paul, the editor of CelebHeights, has him at 6'4.75".
Pdoggy said on 31/Aug/18
@RoelC
I said there was at least a 4 inch difference with his head tilted down also it's a terrible picture for comparing height anyway.there are many other pics which Andre looks at least 6 to 7 inches taller.
Andre was 7ft tall when he was 18 years old. The issue of his head being so big not adding to his height you must take with a grain of salt his chin was so much lower so many claim that if a 6-foot person came up to another 7-footer at their chin there's no way they could be 7 feet that is the whole point his head was over 13 in long from chin to the top of his head.
it would be nice to find a pic of Andre standing straight with wepner to truly gauge his height. I am not sure that there is one because Andre was twice his weight so he never really was concerned with standing so straight.
The recent pic with Morley Safer is a good one because it shows Andre standing perfectly straight with a man who is roughly five foot nine.
@RoelC
I said there was at least a 4 inch difference with his head tilted down also it's a terrible picture for comparing height anyway.there are many other pics which Andre looks at least 6 to 7 inches taller.
Andre was 7ft tall when he was 18 years old. The issue of his head being so big not adding to his height you must take with a grain of salt his chin was so much lower so many claim that if a 6-foot person came up to another 7-footer at their chin there's no way they could be 7 feet that is the whole point his head was over 13 in long from chin to the top of his head.
it would be nice to find a pic of Andre standing straight with wepner to truly gauge his height. I am not sure that there is one because Andre was twice his weight so he never really was concerned with standing so straight.
The recent pic with Morley Safer is a good one because it shows Andre standing perfectly straight with a man who is roughly five foot nine.
Duhon said on 30/Aug/18
This is what a strong 7' looks like next to a strong 6'6" Click Here Now and Andre and Wepner Click Here
This is what a strong 7' looks like next to a strong 6'6" Click Here Now and Andre and Wepner Click Here
Pdoggy said on 30/Aug/18
@JT
Wepner definitely has a footwear advantage. The issue is that the pic is not one to gauge height.
@JT
Wepner definitely has a footwear advantage. The issue is that the pic is not one to gauge height.
Pdoggy said on 29/Aug/18
Yes Wepner was that tall. That is why he is still over 6'5" now. Because he may have lost a little.
Yes Wepner was that tall. That is why he is still over 6'5" now. Because he may have lost a little.
aaronius said on 29/Aug/18
sotiris Gravis = JT..
sotiris Gravis = JT..
aaronius said on 29/Aug/18
Sotiris,
whats with downgrading Lennox Lewis, ? he was measured BAREFoot by the boxing commission many times at exactly 196cm which is actually slightly OVER 6'5". and Chuck Wepner was actually measured at 198.25 cm before his fight with Ali, again, BAREFOOT.
also, if you notice in the photo, Wepner is slightly behind Lewis, judging from the size of his head, he is farther from the camera.
Sotiris,
whats with downgrading Lennox Lewis, ? he was measured BAREFoot by the boxing commission many times at exactly 196cm which is actually slightly OVER 6'5". and Chuck Wepner was actually measured at 198.25 cm before his fight with Ali, again, BAREFOOT.
also, if you notice in the photo, Wepner is slightly behind Lewis, judging from the size of his head, he is farther from the camera.
RoelC said on 29/Aug/18
Pdoggy said on 27/Aug/18
Wepner's trainer saint Chuck was 6'6" or 6'6".5 and looked like a pygmy next to Andre. Furthermore that famous face to face where Andre is barefoot and Wepner has Cowboy boots on and Andre is looking down on him. Still having 4 inches plus on him. Stay with me 6'6"+2" heel + at least 4 inch difference gets 7'.
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Pdoggy, apparently you haven't seen the proof that has been posted here about that staredown.
First of all, Chuck Wepner himself claimed he was 6'5", 222 lbs just before he was about to fight Muhammad Ali. Click Here
Secondly, here's another pic of Andre & Wepner during that same event. JT posted this one a few months ago.
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This pic clearly proves that Andre isn't barefoot, nor is Chuck Wepner wearing cowboy boots. In fact Wepner's footwear looks to be pretty flat. Click Here I highly doubt those shoes would give him much if any footwear advantage over Andre's wrestling boots.
So taking into consideration that Wepner is 6'5" and has little to no footwear advantage, how tall would you estimate Andre now? Using your previous estimation of a 4-inch difference, that would put Andre at 6'9" (the same height Wepner himself estimated Andre at).
If Andre was 7ft he should've had about 7 inches on Wepner, which obviously ain't the case. In the most generous case you could claim a 6-inch difference there.
Pdoggy said on 27/Aug/18
Wepner's trainer saint Chuck was 6'6" or 6'6".5 and looked like a pygmy next to Andre. Furthermore that famous face to face where Andre is barefoot and Wepner has Cowboy boots on and Andre is looking down on him. Still having 4 inches plus on him. Stay with me 6'6"+2" heel + at least 4 inch difference gets 7'.
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Pdoggy, apparently you haven't seen the proof that has been posted here about that staredown.
First of all, Chuck Wepner himself claimed he was 6'5", 222 lbs just before he was about to fight Muhammad Ali. Click Here
Secondly, here's another pic of Andre & Wepner during that same event. JT posted this one a few months ago.
Click Here
This pic clearly proves that Andre isn't barefoot, nor is Chuck Wepner wearing cowboy boots. In fact Wepner's footwear looks to be pretty flat. Click Here I highly doubt those shoes would give him much if any footwear advantage over Andre's wrestling boots.
So taking into consideration that Wepner is 6'5" and has little to no footwear advantage, how tall would you estimate Andre now? Using your previous estimation of a 4-inch difference, that would put Andre at 6'9" (the same height Wepner himself estimated Andre at).
If Andre was 7ft he should've had about 7 inches on Wepner, which obviously ain't the case. In the most generous case you could claim a 6-inch difference there.
Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Aug/18
Andre (good posture/much closer to the camera) next to 5'9" Morley Safer back in 1985:
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As compared to 5'9" Mil Mascaras (billed as 5'11")... Click Here
Andre (good posture/much closer to the camera) next to 5'9" Morley Safer back in 1985:
Click Here
As compared to 5'9" Mil Mascaras (billed as 5'11")... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Aug/18
@Pdoggy No. Wepner's height was always 6'5". As for the cowboy boots and barefoot situation... show me the proof and I'll believe you. Andre looks 6'10" next to Wepner here, not 7 feet:
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@Pdoggy No. Wepner's height was always 6'5". As for the cowboy boots and barefoot situation... show me the proof and I'll believe you. Andre looks 6'10" next to Wepner here, not 7 feet:
Click Here
RP said on 28/Aug/18
Sotiris,
Aaaaaaahhh😉
Sotiris,
Aaaaaaahhh😉
JT said on 28/Aug/18
Pdoggy said on 27/Aug/18
Wepner's trainer saint Chuck was 6'6" or 6'6".5 and looked like a pygmy next to Andre. Furthermore that famous face to face where Andre is barefoot and Wepner has Cowboy boots on and Andre is looking down on him. Still having 4 inches plus on him. Stay with me 6'6"+2" heel + at least 4 inch difference gets 7'.
Wepner was self-proclaimed 6'5", he was not wearing cowboy boots, and Andre was not barefoot. Click Here
Pdoggy said on 27/Aug/18
Wepner's trainer saint Chuck was 6'6" or 6'6".5 and looked like a pygmy next to Andre. Furthermore that famous face to face where Andre is barefoot and Wepner has Cowboy boots on and Andre is looking down on him. Still having 4 inches plus on him. Stay with me 6'6"+2" heel + at least 4 inch difference gets 7'.
Wepner was self-proclaimed 6'5", he was not wearing cowboy boots, and Andre was not barefoot. Click Here
Alfred said on 28/Aug/18
@Sotiris Gravas I don't know where I implied that Andre's 14 inch head added to his overall height, true; the massive acromegalic jaw accounted for most of Andre's face but the man had a huge forehead as well. I believe Andre's head circumference was north of 30 inches! The bottom of Andre's chin was at the very least 6 feet high, add the 14 inch head and he is 7'2" all day. Andre's shoulders were easily 6'3" high. I am a very keen observer and still hold the 14 inch head torch, his head would have looked like sideshow pinhead Schlitzie (Simon Metz) with only an 11.5 to 12 inch head on that enormous frame.
@Sotiris Gravas I don't know where I implied that Andre's 14 inch head added to his overall height, true; the massive acromegalic jaw accounted for most of Andre's face but the man had a huge forehead as well. I believe Andre's head circumference was north of 30 inches! The bottom of Andre's chin was at the very least 6 feet high, add the 14 inch head and he is 7'2" all day. Andre's shoulders were easily 6'3" high. I am a very keen observer and still hold the 14 inch head torch, his head would have looked like sideshow pinhead Schlitzie (Simon Metz) with only an 11.5 to 12 inch head on that enormous frame.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 28/Aug/18
@Alfred
13.5"-14" is an exaggeration. Even 8 footers don't have heads that big.
@Alfred
13.5"-14" is an exaggeration. Even 8 footers don't have heads that big.
Pdoggy said on 27/Aug/18
Wepner's trainer saint Chuck was 6'6" or 6'6".5 and looked like a pygmy next to Andre. Furthermore that famous face to face where Andre is barefoot and Wepner has Cowboy boots on and Andre is looking down on him. Still having 4 inches plus on him. Stay with me 6'6"+2" heel + at least 4 inch difference gets 7'.
Wepner's trainer saint Chuck was 6'6" or 6'6".5 and looked like a pygmy next to Andre. Furthermore that famous face to face where Andre is barefoot and Wepner has Cowboy boots on and Andre is looking down on him. Still having 4 inches plus on him. Stay with me 6'6"+2" heel + at least 4 inch difference gets 7'.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Aug/18
@RP I honestly believe Backlund was 5'10"... Click Here
That said, if I'm proven wrong, I will 100% admit that I was wrong (unlike the Fonz from "Happy Days").
@RP I honestly believe Backlund was 5'10"... Click Here
That said, if I'm proven wrong, I will 100% admit that I was wrong (unlike the Fonz from "Happy Days").
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Aug/18
@Alfred What you fail to understand is that Andre and Maurice Tillet's large head size was mainly due to a big acromegalic jaw that doesn't add to overall height; it just means they had a bigger jaw. Granted, Andre's head was probably 11.5" like Tillet, or even 12". Even if his head was 14", which I doubt, most of that would be expressed in the form of a big jaw, NOT added height.
Here's 6'5" Chuck Wepner's head next to Andre. Most of Andre's big head is his giant afro and that big jaw:
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I love the fact that a 79-year-old Chuck Wepner doesn't seem to have lost height. Here he is w/ 6'4.75" Lennox Lewis... Click Here
@Alfred What you fail to understand is that Andre and Maurice Tillet's large head size was mainly due to a big acromegalic jaw that doesn't add to overall height; it just means they had a bigger jaw. Granted, Andre's head was probably 11.5" like Tillet, or even 12". Even if his head was 14", which I doubt, most of that would be expressed in the form of a big jaw, NOT added height.
Here's 6'5" Chuck Wepner's head next to Andre. Most of Andre's big head is his giant afro and that big jaw:
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I love the fact that a 79-year-old Chuck Wepner doesn't seem to have lost height. Here he is w/ 6'4.75" Lennox Lewis... Click Here
62B said on 26/Aug/18
Alfred said on 24/Aug/18
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Andre was 7'2" here
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No he wasn't
Alfred said on 24/Aug/18
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Andre was 7'2" here
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RP said on 25/Aug/18
Gravas,
That’s a great pic of Backlund & Larry Zbyszko !! Both in most likely equal wrestling boot footwear for that area...both shoulder to shoulder, both equal distance from the camera. It it clearly shows Bob was a solid 1” taller than Larry. Sotiris, I think eventually you’ll agree after further evaluation that a peak Bob Backlund was 6’0” barefoot...6’1” -ish in footwear & his wrestling boots. Just like you later admitted a young peak Andre was 6’11”...6’10” at worst.
Gravas,
That’s a great pic of Backlund & Larry Zbyszko !! Both in most likely equal wrestling boot footwear for that area...both shoulder to shoulder, both equal distance from the camera. It it clearly shows Bob was a solid 1” taller than Larry. Sotiris, I think eventually you’ll agree after further evaluation that a peak Bob Backlund was 6’0” barefoot...6’1” -ish in footwear & his wrestling boots. Just like you later admitted a young peak Andre was 6’11”...6’10” at worst.
RP said on 25/Aug/18
Danimal, if Randy Poffo was truly only 5’11” barefoot ?? Then he absolutely did footwear tricks? Maybe even lifts. I’m 5’11” barefoot...met him in July of 1997, I was 21 years old & he was 44 years. He had me by a strong solid 1”...that’s why I’ve also had him @ 6’0” to 6’0.25”... I was wearing 1.7” Sketcher Logger Boots, he had 1.8-1.9” cowboy boots on (assuming no lifts) and like I said a minimum 1” taller than me when I shook his hand. My boots would have me standing@ 6’0.625” to 6’0.75”...meaning he was at least 6’1.75” in his boots. If 5’11” barefoot? Those boots would had to have given him a 2.75” boost??? Not possible without lifts? Is it possible he had an internal 1” lift insert ? Yeah, it’s possible I supppose?? I just wouldn’t think he’d be that over the top height conscious to go to all that trouble when not going to be on TV? Unless he had a photo shoot or TV appearance later? Nitro was in town (Roanoke, Va) however, not until the following night.
Danimal, if Randy Poffo was truly only 5’11” barefoot ?? Then he absolutely did footwear tricks? Maybe even lifts. I’m 5’11” barefoot...met him in July of 1997, I was 21 years old & he was 44 years. He had me by a strong solid 1”...that’s why I’ve also had him @ 6’0” to 6’0.25”... I was wearing 1.7” Sketcher Logger Boots, he had 1.8-1.9” cowboy boots on (assuming no lifts) and like I said a minimum 1” taller than me when I shook his hand. My boots would have me standing@ 6’0.625” to 6’0.75”...meaning he was at least 6’1.75” in his boots. If 5’11” barefoot? Those boots would had to have given him a 2.75” boost??? Not possible without lifts? Is it possible he had an internal 1” lift insert ? Yeah, it’s possible I supppose?? I just wouldn’t think he’d be that over the top height conscious to go to all that trouble when not going to be on TV? Unless he had a photo shoot or TV appearance later? Nitro was in town (Roanoke, Va) however, not until the following night.
Alfred said on 24/Aug/18
Andre's head was 13.5 to 14 inches, larger than Maurice Tillet's, I keep hearing 11 or 12 inches which is preposterous! The man had one of the largest human heads in history.
This is Andre with an amazon named Kathleen Sullivan, she was 5'10" plus the heels, Andre still had more than a foot on her; check it out-
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Andre was 7'2" here
Andre's head was 13.5 to 14 inches, larger than Maurice Tillet's, I keep hearing 11 or 12 inches which is preposterous! The man had one of the largest human heads in history.
This is Andre with an amazon named Kathleen Sullivan, she was 5'10" plus the heels, Andre still had more than a foot on her; check it out-
Click Here
Andre was 7'2" here
Gretz said on 23/Aug/18
Vegas when you started posting here like 9-10 years ago,you said you didn`t know if Andre was 6'9"or 7'1".And when i started posting here 12 years ago J.T would come up with a pic of Andre every other day that showed him at 6'11".Then when Vegas became a regular jt all the sudden came up with a pic every other day of Andre at 6'10" instead I guess you where wrong hundredes of times so i would take anything he posts with a grain of salt(He can manipulate these pics to go 1 or 2 inches either way he wants them to turn out to suit his own opinion.I have always said he was probably 7'0" in his prime maybe as high as 7'0.75" or 6'11.75".i would say the cake pics and the ones with 5'10" Bobby Hull,5'10" wahoo mcdaniel(listed as 6'1"by the denver Broncos just can`t buy it)and like I always said i think the last pic where 7'0" is resonable is the 1978 pic with bob backlund who was always listed at 6'1" but was probably a small fraction over 6'0"
Vegas when you started posting here like 9-10 years ago,you said you didn`t know if Andre was 6'9"or 7'1".And when i started posting here 12 years ago J.T would come up with a pic of Andre every other day that showed him at 6'11".Then when Vegas became a regular jt all the sudden came up with a pic every other day of Andre at 6'10" instead I guess you where wrong hundredes of times so i would take anything he posts with a grain of salt(He can manipulate these pics to go 1 or 2 inches either way he wants them to turn out to suit his own opinion.I have always said he was probably 7'0" in his prime maybe as high as 7'0.75" or 6'11.75".i would say the cake pics and the ones with 5'10" Bobby Hull,5'10" wahoo mcdaniel(listed as 6'1"by the denver Broncos just can`t buy it)and like I always said i think the last pic where 7'0" is resonable is the 1978 pic with bob backlund who was always listed at 6'1" but was probably a small fraction over 6'0"
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 22/Aug/18
RP said on 5/Aug/18
62B, you probably have met more pro wrestlers in person TVs. Anyone else on this board. Could you give us your best estimates on all the Ines you just listed & the dates you met them? Like I’ve said before...my average daily barefoot height is 5’11” @ age 42...5’10-7/8” to be absolutely exact! Here is the list & dates of the ones I’ve met in person & my best estimates.
Ric Flair 1997: 5’11” to 5’11-1/4”
Ric Flair 2010: 5’10”
Randy Savage 1997: 6’0” to 6’0-1/4”
Rick Rude 1997: 6’3”
Big Boss Man 2000: 6’3”
Lex Luger 1997: 6’3” to 6’3-1/4”
Sting 1997: 6’2” to 6’2-1/4”
Braun Strowman aka Adam Scherr: (multiple times from 2008-2013): 6’7-1/4”... he was measured @ 6’7-1/2” barefoot & 402 lbs at approximately 8am @ a Strongman event in 2012.
Mark Canterbury: known my entire life! Peak 6’4” & currently he’s a hair over 6’3”.
Ric Flair 1997:
Randy Savage was never over a flat 5'11". I spent months posting pictures on the Hogan page proving. He was also listed at 5'11" before he entered the WWF.
RP said on 5/Aug/18
62B, you probably have met more pro wrestlers in person TVs. Anyone else on this board. Could you give us your best estimates on all the Ines you just listed & the dates you met them? Like I’ve said before...my average daily barefoot height is 5’11” @ age 42...5’10-7/8” to be absolutely exact! Here is the list & dates of the ones I’ve met in person & my best estimates.
Ric Flair 1997: 5’11” to 5’11-1/4”
Ric Flair 2010: 5’10”
Randy Savage 1997: 6’0” to 6’0-1/4”
Rick Rude 1997: 6’3”
Big Boss Man 2000: 6’3”
Lex Luger 1997: 6’3” to 6’3-1/4”
Sting 1997: 6’2” to 6’2-1/4”
Braun Strowman aka Adam Scherr: (multiple times from 2008-2013): 6’7-1/4”... he was measured @ 6’7-1/2” barefoot & 402 lbs at approximately 8am @ a Strongman event in 2012.
Mark Canterbury: known my entire life! Peak 6’4” & currently he’s a hair over 6’3”.
Ric Flair 1997:
Randy Savage was never over a flat 5'11". I spent months posting pictures on the Hogan page proving. He was also listed at 5'11" before he entered the WWF.
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 22/Aug/18
UndertakerFrank said on 20/Aug/18
Sotris, I seen a Picture of Andre, Wilt & Arnold in street clothes many years ago in a Magazine
Wilt was atleast 2 inches taller they didnt show the footwear but its safe to say Andre had his cowboy boots on I wish i knew what Magazine i seen it in but i know nobody will believe me since i cant prove it What i remember Wilt was clearly the taller man @ this time i believed Andre was 7ft 4
Hey Frank! I can't believe you're still on this site. You go back to late 2004/early 2005! Do you still talk to Alex, or know what he's up to these days?
UndertakerFrank said on 20/Aug/18
Sotris, I seen a Picture of Andre, Wilt & Arnold in street clothes many years ago in a Magazine
Wilt was atleast 2 inches taller they didnt show the footwear but its safe to say Andre had his cowboy boots on I wish i knew what Magazine i seen it in but i know nobody will believe me since i cant prove it What i remember Wilt was clearly the taller man @ this time i believed Andre was 7ft 4
Hey Frank! I can't believe you're still on this site. You go back to late 2004/early 2005! Do you still talk to Alex, or know what he's up to these days?
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 22/Aug/18
tree said on 1/Aug/18
Bret Hart was 6ft tall Rob met him,if he was only 5ft11 he would not get 6ft,and he looked 6ft with him..definitely over 5ft11
I met Bret as well in Calgary back in 1995 (when I stopped growing). He was 5'11" and that was his actual Stampede Wrestling height before he entered the WWF. I even had an old wrestling magazine from somewhere between 1986 and 1990 that gave a breakdown of popular wrestlers heights, weights and year they started wrestling. Shawn Michaels was listed at 5'11", Bret Hart at 5'11", Davey Boy Smith at 5'9", Dynamite Kid at 5'8", Ric Flair at 5'11", Bam Bam Bigelow at 6'0", etc....
tree said on 1/Aug/18
Bret Hart was 6ft tall Rob met him,if he was only 5ft11 he would not get 6ft,and he looked 6ft with him..definitely over 5ft11
I met Bret as well in Calgary back in 1995 (when I stopped growing). He was 5'11" and that was his actual Stampede Wrestling height before he entered the WWF. I even had an old wrestling magazine from somewhere between 1986 and 1990 that gave a breakdown of popular wrestlers heights, weights and year they started wrestling. Shawn Michaels was listed at 5'11", Bret Hart at 5'11", Davey Boy Smith at 5'9", Dynamite Kid at 5'8", Ric Flair at 5'11", Bam Bam Bigelow at 6'0", etc....
Pdoggy said on 22/Aug/18
Bill Anderson's peak height was 6'2". Just Google him and you will see pics of him with people of known height like OJ who is definitely over 6'. Downgrades to fit agenda are always seen through.
Bill Anderson's peak height was 6'2". Just Google him and you will see pics of him with people of known height like OJ who is definitely over 6'. Downgrades to fit agenda are always seen through.
Alfred said on 21/Aug/18
Click Here skip to 4:29
Here is a video of Andre's monstrous hands at Baylor Medical in Dallas
Here's another:
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skip to 1:48
Andre's hands are the biggest they've ever encountered, even considering the very large hands of Wilt Chamberlain's are also on display!
BTW, Andre's hands have been measured at 10.7" inches from base of palm to tip of middle finger for his right hand!!
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Click Here skip to 4:29
Here is a video of Andre's monstrous hands at Baylor Medical in Dallas
Here's another:
Click Here
skip to 1:48
Andre's hands are the biggest they've ever encountered, even considering the very large hands of Wilt Chamberlain's are also on display!
BTW, Andre's hands have been measured at 10.7" inches from base of palm to tip of middle finger for his right hand!!
Click Here
62B said on 21/Aug/18
Sotris, I seen a Picture of Andre, Wilt & Arnold in street clothes many years ago in a Magazine
Wilt was atleast 2 inches taller they didnt show the footwear but its safe to say Andre had his cowboy boots on I wish i knew what Magazine i seen it in but i know nobody will believe me since i cant prove it What i remember Wilt was clearly the taller man @ this time i believed Andre was 7ft 4
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I believe you saw the picture you claim to have seen. The problem is, its not around for people to judge for themselves on whether or not its good to use for judging Andre's height. Like you said, you for sure couldn't see footwear, and we have no idea on camera angles and distances from the camera. There are plenty of Andre and Wilt pictures, most of which Wilt looks taller. Most of those pictures Andre isn't standing tall where Wilt is. There is one picture where Andre appears as tall as Wilt maybe a fraction taller. This could be due to camera angles, but for sure in those pictures Andre has his cowboy boots on. My personal opinion is Andre dropped a lot of height in posture and probably lost more height throughout the day than the average person would due to his long spine and weight. Personally I don't believe Andre was ever over 7'. I think that 7' would have been his morning height even when he was in his prime, and that he probably lost a good inch throughout the day. By 1984 He might not have even hit the full 7'out of bed, but was probably still in the 6'11" range mid day. At least that's what I thought he looked like in 1988 when I saw him, but that would have been late morning.
Sotris, I seen a Picture of Andre, Wilt & Arnold in street clothes many years ago in a Magazine
Wilt was atleast 2 inches taller they didnt show the footwear but its safe to say Andre had his cowboy boots on I wish i knew what Magazine i seen it in but i know nobody will believe me since i cant prove it What i remember Wilt was clearly the taller man @ this time i believed Andre was 7ft 4
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I believe you saw the picture you claim to have seen. The problem is, its not around for people to judge for themselves on whether or not its good to use for judging Andre's height. Like you said, you for sure couldn't see footwear, and we have no idea on camera angles and distances from the camera. There are plenty of Andre and Wilt pictures, most of which Wilt looks taller. Most of those pictures Andre isn't standing tall where Wilt is. There is one picture where Andre appears as tall as Wilt maybe a fraction taller. This could be due to camera angles, but for sure in those pictures Andre has his cowboy boots on. My personal opinion is Andre dropped a lot of height in posture and probably lost more height throughout the day than the average person would due to his long spine and weight. Personally I don't believe Andre was ever over 7'. I think that 7' would have been his morning height even when he was in his prime, and that he probably lost a good inch throughout the day. By 1984 He might not have even hit the full 7'out of bed, but was probably still in the 6'11" range mid day. At least that's what I thought he looked like in 1988 when I saw him, but that would have been late morning.
UndertakerFrank said on 20/Aug/18
Sotris, I seen a Picture of Andre, Wilt & Arnold in street clothes many years ago in a Magazine
Wilt was atleast 2 inches taller they didnt show the footwear but its safe to say Andre had his cowboy boots on I wish i knew what Magazine i seen it in but i know nobody will believe me since i cant prove it What i remember Wilt was clearly the taller man @ this time i believed Andre was 7ft 4
Sotris, I seen a Picture of Andre, Wilt & Arnold in street clothes many years ago in a Magazine
Wilt was atleast 2 inches taller they didnt show the footwear but its safe to say Andre had his cowboy boots on I wish i knew what Magazine i seen it in but i know nobody will believe me since i cant prove it What i remember Wilt was clearly the taller man @ this time i believed Andre was 7ft 4
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Aug/18
@Vegas' I was looking at some old posts (plan on looking at some more) and saw that JT had posted that despite claiming 6'1", Bill Anderson was really around 5'11"... Click Here
That changes everything. It's basically the same as 5'11" Dean Cain and Show:
Click Here I see Show here as 6'10", max. I don't think Show's head is bigger than 11", now that I know Maurice Tillet's head was never more than 11.5", again, thanks to JT. Also, I see now that Show was wearing his BIG soles next to Anderson, giving him a 1" advantage... Here, Show looks more 6'11" w/ Cain... Click Here
Now that I know Bill Anderson was only 5'11"... it puts Andre and Khali at 6'10" barefoot height here:
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It also explains a pic that bewildered me, but no longer... A 5'11" Anderson makes Hulk Hogan around 6'4.5" barefoot here: Click Here
Just a reminder, that's 5'11" Victor Rivera next to Andre, NOT 6'1" Rocky Johnson, as Rob initially believed... again, I learned of this from JT and you... Click Here Also, Andre appears to be on higher ground.
Here's a fairly recent pic of Show next to now-5'10" Bret Hart vs. Andre in no shoes next to 5'11" peak height Hart... Click Here As usual, Big Show is closer to the camera so as to look BIGGER, but Hart is over his chin... Show is now 6'8.5", at least, IMHO.... possible peak height 6'11".
I don't think Flair was ever more than 5'10.5" peak height, same as Jerry Lawler. Here's Flair w/ Andre closer to the camera looking bigger... Click Here
If you have a photo of you (5'11") and Show, it would be cool to see so as to compare... (Cool that you got to meet him.) Perhaps Show did have a peak height of 6'11" w/ perfect military posture when he was young and thin, but I don't see him as a legit 7-footer.
@Vegas' I was looking at some old posts (plan on looking at some more) and saw that JT had posted that despite claiming 6'1", Bill Anderson was really around 5'11"... Click Here
That changes everything. It's basically the same as 5'11" Dean Cain and Show:
Click Here I see Show here as 6'10", max. I don't think Show's head is bigger than 11", now that I know Maurice Tillet's head was never more than 11.5", again, thanks to JT. Also, I see now that Show was wearing his BIG soles next to Anderson, giving him a 1" advantage... Here, Show looks more 6'11" w/ Cain... Click Here
Now that I know Bill Anderson was only 5'11"... it puts Andre and Khali at 6'10" barefoot height here:
Click Here
It also explains a pic that bewildered me, but no longer... A 5'11" Anderson makes Hulk Hogan around 6'4.5" barefoot here: Click Here
Just a reminder, that's 5'11" Victor Rivera next to Andre, NOT 6'1" Rocky Johnson, as Rob initially believed... again, I learned of this from JT and you... Click Here Also, Andre appears to be on higher ground.
Here's a fairly recent pic of Show next to now-5'10" Bret Hart vs. Andre in no shoes next to 5'11" peak height Hart... Click Here As usual, Big Show is closer to the camera so as to look BIGGER, but Hart is over his chin... Show is now 6'8.5", at least, IMHO.... possible peak height 6'11".
I don't think Flair was ever more than 5'10.5" peak height, same as Jerry Lawler. Here's Flair w/ Andre closer to the camera looking bigger... Click Here
If you have a photo of you (5'11") and Show, it would be cool to see so as to compare... (Cool that you got to meet him.) Perhaps Show did have a peak height of 6'11" w/ perfect military posture when he was young and thin, but I don't see him as a legit 7-footer.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Aug/18
Here's Andre the Giant next to 5'2.5" Dudley Moore, from the movie "Micki and Maude" (1984):
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Here's Andre the Giant next to 5'2.5" Dudley Moore, from the movie "Micki and Maude" (1984):
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Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Aug/18
@JT Good sir, you must post more often. You're a fount of knowledge. I don't even know how you find some of these pics... I do think Khali's peak height is 6'11" and w/ Nike Air Max he can get a nice 1 1/3" boost. Perhaps it was 7 feet...
I think Arn Anderson's peak height was never more than 5'11", same as Ric Flair. In that photo, Khali is obviously closer to the camera making him look even BIGGER... Click Here
I know of that 1940 Time article and that 7" measurement. Thanks for posting this. What always confused me was the supposed 13.5 measurement from his death mask... Click Here
Perhaps this was not an actual death mask, after all. Andre has no neck b/c of his big jaw, but ppl automatically assume ALL of his big head added to his height.
Love that you say Mil Mascaras was around 5'9". Here he is w/ Andre... Click Here
Notice the significant footwear advantage of Mascara, which leads me to believe he might even have been 5'8". Here he is w/ Ricky Steamboat... Click Here
Here w/ Andre and Dusty Rhodes, who would go on to wear HUGE heels later in his career:
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Here w/ Bruno Sammartino... Click Here I question whether or not Sammartino was really 5'10". The reason being his very short arms. When someone wears lifts, their arms give off that T-Rex look.
Here's Bruno Sammartino (5'8") next to Bruno Mars (5'4") before he passed away:
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Here's Bruno w/ 5'9" Pedro Morales looking very much 5'8"... Click Here
W/ Larry Zbyszko who was billed as 5'11"... Click Here
Here's a nice old photo of Bruno w/ Bret Hart (who was NEVER more than 5'11" peak height):
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Bruno and Bret before he passed on... Click Here
Bruno w/ Flair, who lost a lot of height... Click Here
Here's Bruno w/ 6'5.75" barefoot height Primo Carnera... Click Here
Here's Bruno w/ Hogan (look at the short arms of all three men wearing substantial footwear):
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Look at Bruno's BIG footwear... Click Here
If Victor Rivera was around 5'11", that would mean Chief Strongbow was really 5'10"... which leaves Bruno Sammartino looking 5'8" based on this pic... Click Here
I love that pic of Richard Kiel and Carl Weathers; already had it on my laptop...
One last thing. As for Hulk Hogan... here he is looking 6'6" next to 6'2" Bill Anderson:
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Now, we can't see the footwear, but if he's not in his cowboy boots, I suspect lifts are at play... or else how can Hogan look all of only 6'4" next to Sid Eudy, who's listed on CelebHeights as having a peak height of 6'6.5" (He was slightly taller than Undertaker, who's listed at 6'7.5" peak height, LOL. Sid has a higher eyeline but Taker has a bigger head)... Click Here
Anyways, here's Sid w/ Hogan, whose peak height I believe was 6'4":
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@JT Good sir, you must post more often. You're a fount of knowledge. I don't even know how you find some of these pics... I do think Khali's peak height is 6'11" and w/ Nike Air Max he can get a nice 1 1/3" boost. Perhaps it was 7 feet...
I think Arn Anderson's peak height was never more than 5'11", same as Ric Flair. In that photo, Khali is obviously closer to the camera making him look even BIGGER... Click Here
I know of that 1940 Time article and that 7" measurement. Thanks for posting this. What always confused me was the supposed 13.5 measurement from his death mask... Click Here
Perhaps this was not an actual death mask, after all. Andre has no neck b/c of his big jaw, but ppl automatically assume ALL of his big head added to his height.
Love that you say Mil Mascaras was around 5'9". Here he is w/ Andre... Click Here
Notice the significant footwear advantage of Mascara, which leads me to believe he might even have been 5'8". Here he is w/ Ricky Steamboat... Click Here
Here w/ Andre and Dusty Rhodes, who would go on to wear HUGE heels later in his career:
Click Here
Here w/ Bruno Sammartino... Click Here I question whether or not Sammartino was really 5'10". The reason being his very short arms. When someone wears lifts, their arms give off that T-Rex look.
Here's Bruno Sammartino (5'8") next to Bruno Mars (5'4") before he passed away:
Click Here
Here's Bruno w/ 5'9" Pedro Morales looking very much 5'8"... Click Here
W/ Larry Zbyszko who was billed as 5'11"... Click Here
Here's a nice old photo of Bruno w/ Bret Hart (who was NEVER more than 5'11" peak height):
Click Here
Bruno and Bret before he passed on... Click Here
Bruno w/ Flair, who lost a lot of height... Click Here
Here's Bruno w/ 6'5.75" barefoot height Primo Carnera... Click Here
Here's Bruno w/ Hogan (look at the short arms of all three men wearing substantial footwear):
Click Here
Look at Bruno's BIG footwear... Click Here
If Victor Rivera was around 5'11", that would mean Chief Strongbow was really 5'10"... which leaves Bruno Sammartino looking 5'8" based on this pic... Click Here
I love that pic of Richard Kiel and Carl Weathers; already had it on my laptop...
One last thing. As for Hulk Hogan... here he is looking 6'6" next to 6'2" Bill Anderson:
Click Here
Now, we can't see the footwear, but if he's not in his cowboy boots, I suspect lifts are at play... or else how can Hogan look all of only 6'4" next to Sid Eudy, who's listed on CelebHeights as having a peak height of 6'6.5" (He was slightly taller than Undertaker, who's listed at 6'7.5" peak height, LOL. Sid has a higher eyeline but Taker has a bigger head)... Click Here
Anyways, here's Sid w/ Hogan, whose peak height I believe was 6'4":
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Vegas' said on 18/Aug/18
Sotiris, taking a guess I would assume that photo of Anderson and Show was taken in 1994-early 95 at Larry Sharpe's training school. It's a guess though but it would be mid 1990s. As far as Anderson goes if he was 6'2 (6'3) in footwear that puts Big Show maybe 7'2 in footwear foot there regardless of posture. Personally not convinced Anderson was as tall as 6'2 barefoot looking at how he measures up to Show and how I (5'11) did with Show in 2001 when I first met him.
Given that the NCAA had Paul Wight listed as high as 7'1 in college I think the absolute minimum one could argue is 6'10 for him at peak. Even 6'10 is hard to argue based on those team photos unless you can give a reason a division 1 school would play a 6'5 range guy at center. This was at a time when the NBA was dominated by 6'10-7+ centers not like today when Curry and Warriors have completely changed the way the pro game is played.
As mentioned any photos of popular wrestlers accessible by Google search have been discussed in depth on here over the past decade so those Schwartz photos have done the rounds quite a bit on here since 2007-08.
Sotiris, taking a guess I would assume that photo of Anderson and Show was taken in 1994-early 95 at Larry Sharpe's training school. It's a guess though but it would be mid 1990s. As far as Anderson goes if he was 6'2 (6'3) in footwear that puts Big Show maybe 7'2 in footwear foot there regardless of posture. Personally not convinced Anderson was as tall as 6'2 barefoot looking at how he measures up to Show and how I (5'11) did with Show in 2001 when I first met him.
Given that the NCAA had Paul Wight listed as high as 7'1 in college I think the absolute minimum one could argue is 6'10 for him at peak. Even 6'10 is hard to argue based on those team photos unless you can give a reason a division 1 school would play a 6'5 range guy at center. This was at a time when the NBA was dominated by 6'10-7+ centers not like today when Curry and Warriors have completely changed the way the pro game is played.
As mentioned any photos of popular wrestlers accessible by Google search have been discussed in depth on here over the past decade so those Schwartz photos have done the rounds quite a bit on here since 2007-08.
JT said on 18/Aug/18
Click Here This is from the book of the guy (George Napolitano) who took the photo so that ought to end the Rocky Johnson comments. Click Here Pedro Morales and Mil Mascaras were both around 5’9”. Rivera’s in front of Andre but Andre’s standing on higher ground so it’s too hard to pin Andre’s height down.
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Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Aug/18
…. I guess that means Great Khali might be 6'10", after all.
No, Khali is at least 7 ft. and probably a little taller. Click Here The Mazda MX-6 can’t lie about its height (51.6”). Click Here Arn Anderson was around 6’0” tall. Kahli is likely under 7’0” now but that’s b/c his legs are really bowing inward below the knees.
... in other words, even if Andre had a 12-inch-long head or bigger, it doesn't necessarily translate into more height.
That’s true. Andre had an average size head from the eyes up, probably less than 5 inches. The elongation of the jaw is really what brought the head to around 12 inches long.
….Even though Maurice Tillet had a 13.5-inch-long head
Tillet’s head was around 11.5” long. His head was measured at 7” (179 mm.) from the chin to the root of the nose at Harvard back in 1940 for a Life magazine story Click Here IIRC he was around 5’8” Click Here His head comes out less than 12 inches long. Smiling drops the chin down a bit too.
…..Not for nothing, but I always thought Richard Kiel was only 7 feet tall barefoot, not 7'1.5" or 7'2".
Click Here Roger Moore was a solid 6’1”. Carl Weathers was around that height too Click Here Kiel's head had to be close to 12" long.
Here’s a blowup of Andre’s shoes with Shoemaker Click Here Considering they are at least size 18, those are probably around 1.25” heels.
….I'd be curious to know what height you give Big Show and Hogan...
Around 7’0” and 6’5” peak heights. You can’t keep relying on the photo of Big Show with Scott Schwartz because we can’t see the footwear or stances or ground. Also, they were playing aliens so the director may have tried to make them similar in height via a footwear adjustment. BTW, Schwartz said Big Show was 7’1”
the tall solider here claimed 6’8” Click Here which looks about right.
Click Here This is from the book of the guy (George Napolitano) who took the photo so that ought to end the Rocky Johnson comments. Click Here Pedro Morales and Mil Mascaras were both around 5’9”. Rivera’s in front of Andre but Andre’s standing on higher ground so it’s too hard to pin Andre’s height down.
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Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Aug/18
…. I guess that means Great Khali might be 6'10", after all.
No, Khali is at least 7 ft. and probably a little taller. Click Here The Mazda MX-6 can’t lie about its height (51.6”). Click Here Arn Anderson was around 6’0” tall. Kahli is likely under 7’0” now but that’s b/c his legs are really bowing inward below the knees.
... in other words, even if Andre had a 12-inch-long head or bigger, it doesn't necessarily translate into more height.
That’s true. Andre had an average size head from the eyes up, probably less than 5 inches. The elongation of the jaw is really what brought the head to around 12 inches long.
….Even though Maurice Tillet had a 13.5-inch-long head
Tillet’s head was around 11.5” long. His head was measured at 7” (179 mm.) from the chin to the root of the nose at Harvard back in 1940 for a Life magazine story Click Here IIRC he was around 5’8” Click Here His head comes out less than 12 inches long. Smiling drops the chin down a bit too.
…..Not for nothing, but I always thought Richard Kiel was only 7 feet tall barefoot, not 7'1.5" or 7'2".
Click Here Roger Moore was a solid 6’1”. Carl Weathers was around that height too Click Here Kiel's head had to be close to 12" long.
Here’s a blowup of Andre’s shoes with Shoemaker Click Here Considering they are at least size 18, those are probably around 1.25” heels.
….I'd be curious to know what height you give Big Show and Hogan...
Around 7’0” and 6’5” peak heights. You can’t keep relying on the photo of Big Show with Scott Schwartz because we can’t see the footwear or stances or ground. Also, they were playing aliens so the director may have tried to make them similar in height via a footwear adjustment. BTW, Schwartz said Big Show was 7’1”
the tall solider here claimed 6’8” Click Here which looks about right.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Aug/18
@Chris99 They can if what I say still corresponds w/ reality. No one's forcing you to peruse my comments. Feel free to ignore everything I post here if such is your wont. There's no metaphorical gun to your head, dude...
@Chris99 They can if what I say still corresponds w/ reality. No one's forcing you to peruse my comments. Feel free to ignore everything I post here if such is your wont. There's no metaphorical gun to your head, dude...
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Aug/18
@Vegas' Nice pic of Bill Anderson and Big Show. Guess that explains why Show looked so big when playing college basketball. Would like to know when that photo was taken. We don't really know who has the footwear advantage and I see perfect military posture w/ Show, not Anderson. Guess that means Show could have had a peak height of 6'10" (maybe even 6'10.5"/11") barefoot and is now down to 6'8.5" due to obesity. I see now that my peak height of 6'9" for Show was wrong. But I do contend he was only 6'9" back in 2004 w/ legit 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz.)... Click Here (Show's head/body is actually closer to the camera.) Perhaps Show was 6'9.5"... in 2004 and is now 6'8.5".
You proved me wrong, dude. Good detective work.
Legit 6'8" Schwartz w/ 6'4" peak height Dolph Lundgren... Click Here
W/ 6'4" peak height Steven Seagal... Click Here , Click Here
W/ 6'3" peak height Milt Pappas... Click Here
W/ 6'2" peak height Bernie Mac... Click Here
(Sadly, both Milt Pappas and Bernie Mac are no longer w/ us.)
@Vegas' Nice pic of Bill Anderson and Big Show. Guess that explains why Show looked so big when playing college basketball. Would like to know when that photo was taken. We don't really know who has the footwear advantage and I see perfect military posture w/ Show, not Anderson. Guess that means Show could have had a peak height of 6'10" (maybe even 6'10.5"/11") barefoot and is now down to 6'8.5" due to obesity. I see now that my peak height of 6'9" for Show was wrong. But I do contend he was only 6'9" back in 2004 w/ legit 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz.)... Click Here (Show's head/body is actually closer to the camera.) Perhaps Show was 6'9.5"... in 2004 and is now 6'8.5".
You proved me wrong, dude. Good detective work.
Legit 6'8" Schwartz w/ 6'4" peak height Dolph Lundgren... Click Here
W/ 6'4" peak height Steven Seagal... Click Here , Click Here
W/ 6'3" peak height Milt Pappas... Click Here
W/ 6'2" peak height Bernie Mac... Click Here
(Sadly, both Milt Pappas and Bernie Mac are no longer w/ us.)
RP said on 17/Aug/18
Side Note...Muscle Mag International listed Dhalip Sing @ 6’11-7/8” when he was a professional body builder back in the 1990’s. Calling him the tallest body builder in history at that time. I believe it was around 1994-1995/‘96
Side Note...Muscle Mag International listed Dhalip Sing @ 6’11-7/8” when he was a professional body builder back in the 1990’s. Calling him the tallest body builder in history at that time. I believe it was around 1994-1995/‘96
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Aug/18
@JT So, that IS you... I LOVE the photos you post; no one posts such awesome stuff as you. The fact that you now confirm that wasn't Rocky Johnson next to Andre has my head spinning, ha ha. So, you do think Andre's peak height was 6'10"... Cool. I guess that means Great Khali might be 6'10", after all.
Food for thought: Even though Maurice Tillet had a 13.5-inch-long head, most of that was his big jaw, and it didn't really add to his height--which I've seen described as 5'7", 5'8.5", or 5.9"... in other words, even if Andre had a 12-inch-long head or bigger, it doesn't necessarily translate into more height.
This is the photo next to 6'5" Chuck Wepner which initially made be think Andre was only 6'8" barefoot:
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Whereas this one here shows more of a 5" difference... Click Here
Not for nothing, but I always thought Richard Kiel was only 7 feet tall barefoot, not 7'1.5" or 7'2".
I only recently learned that Andre wasn't wearing big custom-made cowboy boots next to Shoemaker, but you say his heels in that photo might have been 1.25"... Isn't that very big for a "dress shoe"? I thought dress shoes were under 1"... maybe 7/8s of an inch...
Anyways, thank you for that informative post. You should post more often; you really know your stuff.
I'd be curious to know what height you give Big Show and Hogan...
@JT So, that IS you... I LOVE the photos you post; no one posts such awesome stuff as you. The fact that you now confirm that wasn't Rocky Johnson next to Andre has my head spinning, ha ha. So, you do think Andre's peak height was 6'10"... Cool. I guess that means Great Khali might be 6'10", after all.
Food for thought: Even though Maurice Tillet had a 13.5-inch-long head, most of that was his big jaw, and it didn't really add to his height--which I've seen described as 5'7", 5'8.5", or 5.9"... in other words, even if Andre had a 12-inch-long head or bigger, it doesn't necessarily translate into more height.
This is the photo next to 6'5" Chuck Wepner which initially made be think Andre was only 6'8" barefoot:
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Whereas this one here shows more of a 5" difference... Click Here
Not for nothing, but I always thought Richard Kiel was only 7 feet tall barefoot, not 7'1.5" or 7'2".
I only recently learned that Andre wasn't wearing big custom-made cowboy boots next to Shoemaker, but you say his heels in that photo might have been 1.25"... Isn't that very big for a "dress shoe"? I thought dress shoes were under 1"... maybe 7/8s of an inch...
Anyways, thank you for that informative post. You should post more often; you really know your stuff.
I'd be curious to know what height you give Big Show and Hogan...
Vegas' said on 17/Aug/18
Yes that's Victor Rivera with Andre not Rocky Johnson and Mamoon did state he was 5'7 in the younger photos like the one with Rocky Johnson.
Sotiris, Giant Silva was listed 216cm at the 1988 Olympics as part of Brazilian basketball team. Dave Meltzer claims Khali was measured at 7'0.5 at the training camp in California where he started in the 1990s, not far from where Meltzer lives in San Jose..so that's pretty specific as opposed to an estimate he might make. I doubt Big Show has 1 inch advantage in his boots there, getting 2 inches or more you need something like Kanes attitude era platforms Click Here real 2 inch boost from a wrestling boot Click Here
Not to be a fly in the ointment of your estimates but I don't think 6'2 Bill Anderson and what you view a peak Big Show at really works Click Here
Yes that's Victor Rivera with Andre not Rocky Johnson and Mamoon did state he was 5'7 in the younger photos like the one with Rocky Johnson.
Sotiris, Giant Silva was listed 216cm at the 1988 Olympics as part of Brazilian basketball team. Dave Meltzer claims Khali was measured at 7'0.5 at the training camp in California where he started in the 1990s, not far from where Meltzer lives in San Jose..so that's pretty specific as opposed to an estimate he might make. I doubt Big Show has 1 inch advantage in his boots there, getting 2 inches or more you need something like Kanes attitude era platforms Click Here real 2 inch boost from a wrestling boot Click Here
Not to be a fly in the ointment of your estimates but I don't think 6'2 Bill Anderson and what you view a peak Big Show at really works Click Here
RP said on 16/Aug/18
Sotiris, you’re making much more sense now 😉
Sotiris, you’re making much more sense now 😉
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Aug/18
@UndertakerFrank I like your posts, dude. :)
@UndertakerFrank I like your posts, dude. :)
BURN IT DOWWWWWN! said on 16/Aug/18
I can see 6'11 range peak but nothing below 6'10 at his lowest.
I can see 6'11 range peak but nothing below 6'10 at his lowest.
Chris99 said on 16/Aug/18
@Sotiris Gravas, if you didn't even know your own correct height as late as April this year how can people take your estimates for people you never met seriously?
@Sotiris Gravas, if you didn't even know your own correct height as late as April this year how can people take your estimates for people you never met seriously?
JT said on 16/Aug/18
Editor Rob:
Johnson with 5ft 8 Mamoon Kabir, Johnson with Andre Click Here. While I think in some photos Andre can look only 6ft 9-10, in those in which he's closer to his peak, I personally wouldn't argue he was as short as 6ft 10.
That’s Victor Rivera (around 5’11”) with Andre, not Rocky Johnson. Johnson was about an inch shorter than 6’2” Tony Atlas.
Sotiris Gravas, many of your pics are taken from my old photobucket account (which is fine), so yes they’ve been posted and discussed here before:)
this is a better comparison of Andre and Kareem Click Here The wax statues at Madame Tussauds are supposedly based on actual measurements of the celebrities. The one you used has Andre standing behind Shoemaker which I did to illustrate that there’s no way Andre was going to come within 2 inches of Kareem by taking a small step forward to be equal with shoemaker as Kareem is.
Andre was not wearing cowboy boots with shoemaker from 1974 but instead dress shoes (maybe a 1.25” heel), or about the same as the boost that Kareem’s Adidas are giving him. Andre comes out around 6’10” next to Kareem and Richard Kiel, which I believe he was peak height.
Editor Rob:
Johnson with 5ft 8 Mamoon Kabir, Johnson with Andre Click Here. While I think in some photos Andre can look only 6ft 9-10, in those in which he's closer to his peak, I personally wouldn't argue he was as short as 6ft 10.
That’s Victor Rivera (around 5’11”) with Andre, not Rocky Johnson. Johnson was about an inch shorter than 6’2” Tony Atlas.
Sotiris Gravas, many of your pics are taken from my old photobucket account (which is fine), so yes they’ve been posted and discussed here before:)
this is a better comparison of Andre and Kareem Click Here The wax statues at Madame Tussauds are supposedly based on actual measurements of the celebrities. The one you used has Andre standing behind Shoemaker which I did to illustrate that there’s no way Andre was going to come within 2 inches of Kareem by taking a small step forward to be equal with shoemaker as Kareem is.
Andre was not wearing cowboy boots with shoemaker from 1974 but instead dress shoes (maybe a 1.25” heel), or about the same as the boost that Kareem’s Adidas are giving him. Andre comes out around 6’10” next to Kareem and Richard Kiel, which I believe he was peak height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Aug/18
@Rob I'm now willing to accept that Andre the Giant was probably 6'11" peak height... (Could he have been 7 feet tall w/ a 12-inch-long head...?) and that he was around 6'10" leading up to his demise. (I'm changing my middle name to "Humble Pie.")
Here's a 6'2" Duggan and Andre... Click Here
Compared to Andre in his prime w/ a 6'2" Rocky Johnson... Click Here
That said, I still find comparisons like this confusing... Oh, well:
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Keep up the good work!
Editor Rob
@Rob I'm now willing to accept that Andre the Giant was probably 6'11" peak height... (Could he have been 7 feet tall w/ a 12-inch-long head...?) and that he was around 6'10" leading up to his demise. (I'm changing my middle name to "Humble Pie.")
Here's a 6'2" Duggan and Andre... Click Here
Compared to Andre in his prime w/ a 6'2" Rocky Johnson... Click Here
That said, I still find comparisons like this confusing... Oh, well:
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Keep up the good work!
Editor RobIt's possible that with the shorter fellow standing in front of Andre, it might account for a little bit of height.
Duggan certainly makes him look sub 7ft but scratch that photo with rocky, Page 9 I remember somebody said it was a different wrestler, although I don't know if he was 6ft 1 or not.
Duggan certainly makes him look sub 7ft but scratch that photo with rocky, Page 9 I remember somebody said it was a different wrestler, although I don't know if he was 6ft 1 or not.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Aug/18
@RoelC Great pic of Andre and Shoemaker that you posted. It turns out the one I had on my laptop was not a clear image showing if Andre had on cowboy boots... Click Here
Your pic, on the other hand, was very enlightening, to say the least. As for me, trying to figure out Andre's height has been an interesting journey.
@RoelC Great pic of Andre and Shoemaker that you posted. It turns out the one I had on my laptop was not a clear image showing if Andre had on cowboy boots... Click Here
Your pic, on the other hand, was very enlightening, to say the least. As for me, trying to figure out Andre's height has been an interesting journey.
UndertakerFrank said on 15/Aug/18
Sotris look @ the actual Match between Andre & Chuck Andre does look about 5 inches taller
Maybe Andre was 6ft 9 3/4 to 6ft 10 peak is possible in my Opinion
Sotris look @ the actual Match between Andre & Chuck Andre does look about 5 inches taller
Maybe Andre was 6ft 9 3/4 to 6ft 10 peak is possible in my Opinion
184guy2 said on 15/Aug/18
@tree
It's funny,he was easy 2+ inches taller than that 6'8(Rob met him personally) wrestler in 1992 , and his boots looks thinner ....
he looks anywhere from 6'10 to 6'11 by the time
Try to imagine him in the late 70's ... he had to be near 7'
@tree
It's funny,he was easy 2+ inches taller than that 6'8(Rob met him personally) wrestler in 1992 , and his boots looks thinner ....
he looks anywhere from 6'10 to 6'11 by the time
Try to imagine him in the late 70's ... he had to be near 7'
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Aug/18
@Rob I just did the math again and realize that if a 6'2" guy comes up 2" above Great Khali's chin, that means w/ an 11" head, Khali is really 6'11", not 6'10. My bad. I write this w/o having slept, so, I'm tired. If Big Show is really 6'8.5" as I believe, w/ his 2" heels he becomes 6'10.5"... and Khali has him by 1.5" in this pic. So, 7 feet tall... minus the 1" heel leaves us w/ 6'11" barefoot height for Khali:
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So, maybe Andre's peak height really was 6'11" and then it dropped to 6'10" in the years leading to his death... I guess that makes more sense. My 2 cents. God, I gotta get some sleep...
Based on this post, does this mean I'm no longer a troll...?
Editor Rob
@Rob I just did the math again and realize that if a 6'2" guy comes up 2" above Great Khali's chin, that means w/ an 11" head, Khali is really 6'11", not 6'10. My bad. I write this w/o having slept, so, I'm tired. If Big Show is really 6'8.5" as I believe, w/ his 2" heels he becomes 6'10.5"... and Khali has him by 1.5" in this pic. So, 7 feet tall... minus the 1" heel leaves us w/ 6'11" barefoot height for Khali:
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So, maybe Andre's peak height really was 6'11" and then it dropped to 6'10" in the years leading to his death... I guess that makes more sense. My 2 cents. God, I gotta get some sleep...
Based on this post, does this mean I'm no longer a troll...?
Editor RobMany folk have argued 6ft 11 for Andre, some 6ft 10, some 7ft 1...
I think 6ft 9-10 just seems too low a guess, I did think for a period that between 6ft 11-7ft was very possible.
I think 6ft 9-10 just seems too low a guess, I did think for a period that between 6ft 11-7ft was very possible.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Aug/18
@Rob Allow me to be the bigger man (LOL) and say that I'm sorry. I realize now (based on the fact that Andre wasn't wearing cowboy boots next to 4'11" Bill Shoemaker, that Andre was 6'10", not the 6'9" that I put forward. I admit that I was wrong. That said, this is Rocky Johnson in his later years next to his son, The Rock (currently 6'2")... Click Here which makes his billed height of 6'4" total kayfabe nonsense. You list Rocky Johnson's peak height at 6'2".
I'd wager that The Rock's father (6'2") was standing next to a 6'10" Andre as seen here... with footwear: Click Here I'll remind you that The Great Khali is really 6'10"... as seen here next to 6'2" gentlemen like Sheamus and Mark Henry (currently 6'1.5")... Click Here
Next to Hogan (was 6'3" for a while/currently 6'2", same height as The Rock):
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Next to The Rock (I'm guessing in bigger footwear)... Click Here
Next to 6'2 Gary Goodridge... Click Here
Khali next to Vince McHahon who was never even 6'2"... was 6'1.5" peak height and is now 6'0":
Click Here So please, don't tell me that Dalip Singh (aka The "Great" Khali) is really 7'1" b/c that's utter nonsense.
Here's Andre and 6'2" Bill Anderson vs. Anderson and Khali... Click Here
W/ 6'2" (footwear disadvantage) Bautista... Click Here
Here's Khali w/ Shaq when he was still 6'11.5"... Notice how Khali is NOT 7'1". Not even close:
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Khali w/ 6'4" Jinder Mahal... Click Here , Click Here
And finally, Khali next to 5'9" Paul Heyman... Click Here as well as Khali next to 5'9.75" Adam Sandler and 6'2" Terry Crews... Click Here
Here's Khali standing under a WWE door... Click Here 7'1" for this guy... no, I don't think so.
If Khali is really 6'10"... which he IS... Andre the Giant was also 6'10".
Rob, the top of a 6'2" man's head comes up around 2" above Khali's chin. With an 11" head, that means 6'10" of height. Lastly, the pic w/ Rocky Johnson has Andre with a BIG(!!!) afro that is NOT attached to his skull. It's a shame I put all this on Andre's page and nothing on Khali's...
Your thoughts, Rob...? Tell me how I'm out of my mind.
Editor Rob
@Rob Allow me to be the bigger man (LOL) and say that I'm sorry. I realize now (based on the fact that Andre wasn't wearing cowboy boots next to 4'11" Bill Shoemaker, that Andre was 6'10", not the 6'9" that I put forward. I admit that I was wrong. That said, this is Rocky Johnson in his later years next to his son, The Rock (currently 6'2")... Click Here which makes his billed height of 6'4" total kayfabe nonsense. You list Rocky Johnson's peak height at 6'2".
I'd wager that The Rock's father (6'2") was standing next to a 6'10" Andre as seen here... with footwear: Click Here I'll remind you that The Great Khali is really 6'10"... as seen here next to 6'2" gentlemen like Sheamus and Mark Henry (currently 6'1.5")... Click Here
Next to Hogan (was 6'3" for a while/currently 6'2", same height as The Rock):
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Next to The Rock (I'm guessing in bigger footwear)... Click Here
Next to 6'2 Gary Goodridge... Click Here
Khali next to Vince McHahon who was never even 6'2"... was 6'1.5" peak height and is now 6'0":
Click Here So please, don't tell me that Dalip Singh (aka The "Great" Khali) is really 7'1" b/c that's utter nonsense.
Here's Andre and 6'2" Bill Anderson vs. Anderson and Khali... Click Here
W/ 6'2" (footwear disadvantage) Bautista... Click Here
Here's Khali w/ Shaq when he was still 6'11.5"... Notice how Khali is NOT 7'1". Not even close:
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Khali w/ 6'4" Jinder Mahal... Click Here , Click Here
And finally, Khali next to 5'9" Paul Heyman... Click Here as well as Khali next to 5'9.75" Adam Sandler and 6'2" Terry Crews... Click Here
Here's Khali standing under a WWE door... Click Here 7'1" for this guy... no, I don't think so.
If Khali is really 6'10"... which he IS... Andre the Giant was also 6'10".
Rob, the top of a 6'2" man's head comes up around 2" above Khali's chin. With an 11" head, that means 6'10" of height. Lastly, the pic w/ Rocky Johnson has Andre with a BIG(!!!) afro that is NOT attached to his skull. It's a shame I put all this on Andre's page and nothing on Khali's...
Your thoughts, Rob...? Tell me how I'm out of my mind.
Editor RobYes, a peak Rocky I don't think was more than 6ft 2...whether Andre is only 8 inches taller or more is debatable, I would still say more than 8 given his head is quite large.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Aug/18
@RoelC Thanks for correcting me w/ that pic. I actually already had it on my laptop and naturally assumed Andre was in his cowboy boots, so I didn't even bother to look. My bad. Boy, do I feel dumb. That doesn't change the fact that at least 4 inches separates these two men in terms of height, which means I was WRONG (!!!) and Andre was 6'10", not 6'9". That said, saying these comparison pics aren't good is the most nonsensical thing I've ever seen on this forum. We have a benchmark height of 4'11" Bill Shoemaker for BOTH men. Yes, Andre had a big head, I'm assuming 12 inches, w/ 2 inches of added afro... Doesn't change the fact that there's a minimum of 4 inches here, regardless of how adamant you may be:
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Here's 7'2" Kareem w' 6'5" Dr. J and Donald Trump superimposed over Hulk Hogan (in cowboy boots) next to Trump and Andre... Kareem looks like the true giant he is and Andre... doesn't:
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Here's Ali (6'2.5") next to Andre vs. Bill Russell and Kareem:
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Here's 6'2" Bill Anderson next to Kareem vs Andre... Click Here
Here's Bill Anderson next to 6'10 Great Khali vs. Andre, who I now realize was 6'10':
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The Great Khali (6'10") with Giant Silva (same height) next to 6'2" (not 6'3") Gary Goodridge:
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The Great Khali (6'10") next to Hulk Hogan (now 6'2", not 6'3", same as The Rock):
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Khali w/ 6'2" Mark Henry... Click Here , w/ 6'2" Sheamus, too:
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Legit 6'10" guy next to legit 6'2" sent to me on Twitter... Click Here
So, I WAS too harsh w/ Andre... I was WRONG (!!!) He wasn't 6'9", He was 6'10"...
Here's Andre and Kareem w/ Piper as a benchmark... There's 4" height diff here:
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So, Andre isn't 6'9" here w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner... He was 6'10":
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So, I'm willing to say Andre WAS 6'10"... but no way was he 7 feet tall. NO WAY.
I'll leave you with this... this is what a 6'10" (NOT 6'9") man in custom-made cowboy boots looks like next to a 7'1" guy like Wilt. Yes, Andre, look up at the BIGGER man w/ a footwear disadvantage. Look UP:
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@RoelC Thanks for correcting me w/ that pic. I actually already had it on my laptop and naturally assumed Andre was in his cowboy boots, so I didn't even bother to look. My bad. Boy, do I feel dumb. That doesn't change the fact that at least 4 inches separates these two men in terms of height, which means I was WRONG (!!!) and Andre was 6'10", not 6'9". That said, saying these comparison pics aren't good is the most nonsensical thing I've ever seen on this forum. We have a benchmark height of 4'11" Bill Shoemaker for BOTH men. Yes, Andre had a big head, I'm assuming 12 inches, w/ 2 inches of added afro... Doesn't change the fact that there's a minimum of 4 inches here, regardless of how adamant you may be:
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Here's 7'2" Kareem w' 6'5" Dr. J and Donald Trump superimposed over Hulk Hogan (in cowboy boots) next to Trump and Andre... Kareem looks like the true giant he is and Andre... doesn't:
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Here's Ali (6'2.5") next to Andre vs. Bill Russell and Kareem:
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Here's 6'2" Bill Anderson next to Kareem vs Andre... Click Here
Here's Bill Anderson next to 6'10 Great Khali vs. Andre, who I now realize was 6'10':
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The Great Khali (6'10") with Giant Silva (same height) next to 6'2" (not 6'3") Gary Goodridge:
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The Great Khali (6'10") next to Hulk Hogan (now 6'2", not 6'3", same as The Rock):
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Khali w/ 6'2" Mark Henry... Click Here , w/ 6'2" Sheamus, too:
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Legit 6'10" guy next to legit 6'2" sent to me on Twitter... Click Here
So, I WAS too harsh w/ Andre... I was WRONG (!!!) He wasn't 6'9", He was 6'10"...
Here's Andre and Kareem w/ Piper as a benchmark... There's 4" height diff here:
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So, Andre isn't 6'9" here w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner... He was 6'10":
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So, I'm willing to say Andre WAS 6'10"... but no way was he 7 feet tall. NO WAY.
I'll leave you with this... this is what a 6'10" (NOT 6'9") man in custom-made cowboy boots looks like next to a 7'1" guy like Wilt. Yes, Andre, look up at the BIGGER man w/ a footwear disadvantage. Look UP:
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Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Aug/18
@RP Just so you know, I'm still a very big fan of the show "WKRP in Cincinnati." Dr. J was listed as 6'7", but he was actually around 6'5" w/o shoes, daytime height.
I don't know why, but Moses Malone was listed by his real barefoot height, 6'10". Here they both are:
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Reggie Theus was also listed as 6'7", but he was around 6'5", same as Dr. J. Here he is w/ Malone:
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Here's Dr. J w/ MJ... then and now... Click Here , Click Here
Here's Dr. J. w/ Barkley... Click Here
Look at how tall Barkley looks next to Dr. J b/c he's closer to the camera:
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Moses Malone w/ Barkley... Click Here , Click Here ,
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Look at how short J is to Bird... Click Here
Now, look how much taller J looks... just to show you how pics can be deceiving when someone is closer to the camera... Click Here
Malone and Bird... Click Here
Just throwing this out there... pics like these make gauging height VERY confusing:
Click Here , Click Here... as compared to this:
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Bird can seem to look taller when his hair is sticking up...
P.S. I'm still laughing from the time Magic told Conan he was 6'9". OMG. The fact that a 6'7" (He's not 6'7.5" now) guy feels he needs to lie about his height is WEIRD.
Hope you liked the pics.
@RP Just so you know, I'm still a very big fan of the show "WKRP in Cincinnati." Dr. J was listed as 6'7", but he was actually around 6'5" w/o shoes, daytime height.
I don't know why, but Moses Malone was listed by his real barefoot height, 6'10". Here they both are:
Click Here , Click Here
Reggie Theus was also listed as 6'7", but he was around 6'5", same as Dr. J. Here he is w/ Malone:
Click Here
Here's Dr. J w/ MJ... then and now... Click Here , Click Here
Here's Dr. J. w/ Barkley... Click Here
Look at how tall Barkley looks next to Dr. J b/c he's closer to the camera:
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Moses Malone w/ Barkley... Click Here , Click Here ,
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Look at how short J is to Bird... Click Here
Now, look how much taller J looks... just to show you how pics can be deceiving when someone is closer to the camera... Click Here
Malone and Bird... Click Here
Just throwing this out there... pics like these make gauging height VERY confusing:
Click Here , Click Here... as compared to this:
Click Here , Click Here
Bird can seem to look taller when his hair is sticking up...
P.S. I'm still laughing from the time Magic told Conan he was 6'9". OMG. The fact that a 6'7" (He's not 6'7.5" now) guy feels he needs to lie about his height is WEIRD.
Hope you liked the pics.
RoelC said on 14/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Aug/18
@Rob, based on what I've shown, the 7-foot listing for Andre is BEYOND LAUGHABLE. No offense to you or anyone who thought he might have been 7 feet tall, but to continue believing it is crazy. ANDRE NEEDS A DOWNGRADE. He was 6'9", the same height Chuck Wepner said he was. Who should I believe, guys on this forum who remember seeing him in the '80s, sometimes from 10, maybe 20 feet away, or a guy who actually FOUGHT HIM UP CLOSE? Sorry, but I think I'll take the word of Chuck Wepner over anyone else. If that makes me a "troll" according to some guys on this forum, so be it. Here's the photo of Andre (in CUSTOM-MADE cowboy boots that gave him more than the close to 2" standard heel, more like 3", sometimes more) next to benchmark height 4'11" Bill Shoemaker... as compared to LEGIT 7'2" Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next to Shoemaker... There's NO WAY ANYONE can say w/ a straight face that Andre the Giant was 7 feet tall, let alone the ludicrous 7'4"... Andre is EXPOSED here 100%:
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That’s a pretty crappy comparison pic you just posted. Explain to me how Andre can look nearly the same height as Wilt in a real picture (not a comparison pic), yet he looks around 6 inches shorter than Kareem in the comparison pic of yours. Kareem was only 1 or maybe 1,5 inches taller than Wilt.
Comparison pics are never really reliable, unless they’re shot at a near identical camera angle. You’re comparing 2 pics which are shot from different angles. Hence why you get such a skewed result. The fact that Kareem’s head is as big if not bigger than Andre’s head in your comparison pic, should ring a bell. Kareem’s head was no bigger than Wilt’s, yet Andre made Wilt’s head look puny.
And you’re wrong about Andre wearing cowboy boots in those pics. He’s wearing shoes with a normal sized (maybe 1-1.25”) heel.
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In cowboy boots Andre would be within 2 inches of Kareem, not 6 inches shorter as you’re trying to prove here.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Aug/18
@Rob, based on what I've shown, the 7-foot listing for Andre is BEYOND LAUGHABLE. No offense to you or anyone who thought he might have been 7 feet tall, but to continue believing it is crazy. ANDRE NEEDS A DOWNGRADE. He was 6'9", the same height Chuck Wepner said he was. Who should I believe, guys on this forum who remember seeing him in the '80s, sometimes from 10, maybe 20 feet away, or a guy who actually FOUGHT HIM UP CLOSE? Sorry, but I think I'll take the word of Chuck Wepner over anyone else. If that makes me a "troll" according to some guys on this forum, so be it. Here's the photo of Andre (in CUSTOM-MADE cowboy boots that gave him more than the close to 2" standard heel, more like 3", sometimes more) next to benchmark height 4'11" Bill Shoemaker... as compared to LEGIT 7'2" Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next to Shoemaker... There's NO WAY ANYONE can say w/ a straight face that Andre the Giant was 7 feet tall, let alone the ludicrous 7'4"... Andre is EXPOSED here 100%:
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That’s a pretty crappy comparison pic you just posted. Explain to me how Andre can look nearly the same height as Wilt in a real picture (not a comparison pic), yet he looks around 6 inches shorter than Kareem in the comparison pic of yours. Kareem was only 1 or maybe 1,5 inches taller than Wilt.
Comparison pics are never really reliable, unless they’re shot at a near identical camera angle. You’re comparing 2 pics which are shot from different angles. Hence why you get such a skewed result. The fact that Kareem’s head is as big if not bigger than Andre’s head in your comparison pic, should ring a bell. Kareem’s head was no bigger than Wilt’s, yet Andre made Wilt’s head look puny.
And you’re wrong about Andre wearing cowboy boots in those pics. He’s wearing shoes with a normal sized (maybe 1-1.25”) heel.
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In cowboy boots Andre would be within 2 inches of Kareem, not 6 inches shorter as you’re trying to prove here.
RP said on 13/Aug/18
Sotiris,
Wasn’t DR J 6’6-1/2” ???
Sotiris,
Wasn’t DR J 6’6-1/2” ???
tree said on 13/Aug/18
And this is a 2 INCH difference but Andre has his legs bent so it would be more with same posture as Manes
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Can u just admit that andre was minimum 6ft10 past 40?
And this is a 2 INCH difference but Andre has his legs bent so it would be more with same posture as Manes
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Can u just admit that andre was minimum 6ft10 past 40?
tree said on 13/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas U realize that with Mane he was over 40?And even there he looks 6ft10,
and with Wepner in the first pic he looks 6ft11,he had a looong head.
And if Wepner sad 6ft9 doesent mean sh/it.did he measure him?He looks much shorter than him, might be a bad height guesser.
there are tons of evidence that Andre was over 6ft9 even when he dies.
U are really bad at guessing heights but i think its just trolling.
And with Duggan when andre has good psture he is under his nose thats atleast an 8 inch long difference cuz of his huge head lenght. Click Here
Andre had a very long spine and even a little bending makes him loose more than a normal person
AND Cant u see Hogan has 2 inch on Dibiase? Click Here
I smell TROLL here.
And in the first pic Abdul is closer to that cam with trump making him bigger.
Arnold may have thicker soles,and Andre is slouching a little even if he was only And arnie was over 6ft1 with 5ft9.5 Robert Englund without shoes Click Here
And DON leon ahs the higher ground alot HIGHER.
CONGRATULASIONS with the Bill Russel pic u just proved he was over 6ft10,he is slouching but still doesnt looks shorter than 6ft10 Bill.
Sotiris Gravas U realize that with Mane he was over 40?And even there he looks 6ft10,
and with Wepner in the first pic he looks 6ft11,he had a looong head.
And if Wepner sad 6ft9 doesent mean sh/it.did he measure him?He looks much shorter than him, might be a bad height guesser.
there are tons of evidence that Andre was over 6ft9 even when he dies.
U are really bad at guessing heights but i think its just trolling.
And with Duggan when andre has good psture he is under his nose thats atleast an 8 inch long difference cuz of his huge head lenght. Click Here
Andre had a very long spine and even a little bending makes him loose more than a normal person
AND Cant u see Hogan has 2 inch on Dibiase? Click Here
I smell TROLL here.
And in the first pic Abdul is closer to that cam with trump making him bigger.
Arnold may have thicker soles,and Andre is slouching a little even if he was only And arnie was over 6ft1 with 5ft9.5 Robert Englund without shoes Click Here
And DON leon ahs the higher ground alot HIGHER.
CONGRATULASIONS with the Bill Russel pic u just proved he was over 6ft10,he is slouching but still doesnt looks shorter than 6ft10 Bill.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Aug/18
@Rob Thanks for responding so quickly, Rob, I appreciate it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. That being said, I 100% believe that I proved Andre was NEVER more than 6'9".
I had forgotten to include pics of Andre in cowboy boots next to 6'4" Don Lane (also in cowboy boots) from back in 1978... Click Here , Click Here. No offense to you or anyone who feels Andre is 7 feet tall based on these pics, but to me such a listing has no basis in reality. I always wanted to air my views on this matter, and it was nice to be able to do it on a forum where there's actual interest. If I post something on Twitter, NO ONE seems to care. Maybe that's why you never post anything on @celebheights. Oh, well. It's been fun...
Editor Rob
@Rob Thanks for responding so quickly, Rob, I appreciate it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. That being said, I 100% believe that I proved Andre was NEVER more than 6'9".
I had forgotten to include pics of Andre in cowboy boots next to 6'4" Don Lane (also in cowboy boots) from back in 1978... Click Here , Click Here. No offense to you or anyone who feels Andre is 7 feet tall based on these pics, but to me such a listing has no basis in reality. I always wanted to air my views on this matter, and it was nice to be able to do it on a forum where there's actual interest. If I post something on Twitter, NO ONE seems to care. Maybe that's why you never post anything on @celebheights. Oh, well. It's been fun...
Editor RobJohnson with 5ft 8 Mamoon Kabir, Johnson with Andre Click Here.
While I think in some photos Andre can look only 6ft 9-10, in those in which he's closer to his peak, I personally wouldn't argue he was as short as 6ft 10.
While I think in some photos Andre can look only 6ft 9-10, in those in which he's closer to his peak, I personally wouldn't argue he was as short as 6ft 10.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Aug/18
@Gretz Thanks for the emotional support, friendo.
@Gretz Thanks for the emotional support, friendo.
RP said on 13/Aug/18
Old broken down Andre looks 6’10” (when standing erect) with 6’8” Mane.
Old broken down Andre looks 6’10” (when standing erect) with 6’8” Mane.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Aug/18
@Pdoggy Show me the proof and I'll gladly believe you.
@Tree Yeah, thanks for that; I've seen this before... great stuff. Andre is 6'9" here, same height Chuck Wepner said he was: Click Here
Here's 6'5" Wepner next to 6'9" Andre, a pic that I don't think many have seen before:
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This one everyone has seen: Click Here
Here's the quote from Wepner saying Andre is only 6'9": Click Here
Just for fun, here's Hacksaw Jim Duggan (6'2" peak height) next to a 6'9" Andre: Click Here
Duggan and Ted Dibiase were the SAME HEIGHT: Click Here
Still are: Click Here
Which explains why Hogan was always 6'3": Click Here
Compare the pic of Hogan (6'3" in cowboy boots now 6'5") next to Trump and Andre as compared to legit 7'2" Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next to Trump and around 6'5" Julius Erving. Pretty sure most of you have never seen this pic: Click Here
Here's the same pic superimposed:
Click Here As you can see, Hogan is 6'5" thanks to cowboy boots, and Andre is NOWHERE NEAR 7-feet-tall.
@Rob, based on what I've shown, the 7-foot listing for Andre is BEYOND LAUGHABLE. No offense to you or anyone who thought he might have been 7 feet tall, but to continue believing it is crazy. ANDRE NEEDS A DOWNGRADE. He was 6'9", the same height Chuck Wepner said he was. Who should I believe, guys on this forum who remember seeing him in the '80s, sometimes from 10, maybe 20 feet away, or a guy who actually FOUGHT HIM UP CLOSE? Sorry, but I think I'll take the word of Chuck Wepner over anyone else. If that makes me a "troll" according to some guys on this forum, so be it. Here's the photo of Andre (in CUSTOM-MADE cowboy boots that gave him more than the close to 2" standard heel, more like 3", sometimes more) next to benchmark height 4'11" Bill Shoemaker... as compared to LEGIT 7'2" Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next to Shoemaker... There's NO WAY ANYONE can say w/ a straight face that Andre the Giant was 7 feet tall, let alone the ludicrous 7'4"... Andre is EXPOSED here 100%:
Click Here
Based on this evidence I'd like a response from you... Will you downgrade Andre's height, yes or no...?
If you don't, there won't be any hard feelings on my part, but for the life of me, I just don't understand why you wouldn't downgrade him based on what I've presented.
Here's 6'2.5 Ali vs. Andre vs. Bill Russell vs. 7'2" Kareem... Andre looks SMALL here:Click Here I once thought Andre wasn't in his cowboys , but OF COURSE he's wearing them, which makes a 7'0" listing for him even more laughable.
Look at Andre (NO COWBOY BOOTS) next to peak height Arnie (6'1")... Click Here... Saying Andre is 7'0" from this pic is wrong/crazy.
If Andre was ever 7 FEET TALL, all of these kids would be GIANTS... Click Here
Here's Andre (BAREFOOT) w/ 6'4" Don Leo Jonathan back in 1972: Click Here
And here: Click Here w/ shoes.
Rob, will you give Andre a downgrade...? I'd really appreciate a detailed response, please.
Here's an example of the type of custom-made cowboy boots w/ a HUGE heel that Andre would wear... Click Here
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I'll end this post w/ my favorite Andre the Giant pic... Enjoy!
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Editor Rob
@Pdoggy Show me the proof and I'll gladly believe you.
@Tree Yeah, thanks for that; I've seen this before... great stuff. Andre is 6'9" here, same height Chuck Wepner said he was: Click Here
Here's 6'5" Wepner next to 6'9" Andre, a pic that I don't think many have seen before:
Click Here
This one everyone has seen: Click Here
Here's the quote from Wepner saying Andre is only 6'9": Click Here
Just for fun, here's Hacksaw Jim Duggan (6'2" peak height) next to a 6'9" Andre: Click Here
Duggan and Ted Dibiase were the SAME HEIGHT: Click Here
Still are: Click Here
Which explains why Hogan was always 6'3": Click Here
Compare the pic of Hogan (6'3" in cowboy boots now 6'5") next to Trump and Andre as compared to legit 7'2" Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next to Trump and around 6'5" Julius Erving. Pretty sure most of you have never seen this pic: Click Here
Here's the same pic superimposed:
Click Here As you can see, Hogan is 6'5" thanks to cowboy boots, and Andre is NOWHERE NEAR 7-feet-tall.
@Rob, based on what I've shown, the 7-foot listing for Andre is BEYOND LAUGHABLE. No offense to you or anyone who thought he might have been 7 feet tall, but to continue believing it is crazy. ANDRE NEEDS A DOWNGRADE. He was 6'9", the same height Chuck Wepner said he was. Who should I believe, guys on this forum who remember seeing him in the '80s, sometimes from 10, maybe 20 feet away, or a guy who actually FOUGHT HIM UP CLOSE? Sorry, but I think I'll take the word of Chuck Wepner over anyone else. If that makes me a "troll" according to some guys on this forum, so be it. Here's the photo of Andre (in CUSTOM-MADE cowboy boots that gave him more than the close to 2" standard heel, more like 3", sometimes more) next to benchmark height 4'11" Bill Shoemaker... as compared to LEGIT 7'2" Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next to Shoemaker... There's NO WAY ANYONE can say w/ a straight face that Andre the Giant was 7 feet tall, let alone the ludicrous 7'4"... Andre is EXPOSED here 100%:
Click Here
Based on this evidence I'd like a response from you... Will you downgrade Andre's height, yes or no...?
If you don't, there won't be any hard feelings on my part, but for the life of me, I just don't understand why you wouldn't downgrade him based on what I've presented.
Here's 6'2.5 Ali vs. Andre vs. Bill Russell vs. 7'2" Kareem... Andre looks SMALL here:Click Here I once thought Andre wasn't in his cowboys , but OF COURSE he's wearing them, which makes a 7'0" listing for him even more laughable.
Look at Andre (NO COWBOY BOOTS) next to peak height Arnie (6'1")... Click Here... Saying Andre is 7'0" from this pic is wrong/crazy.
If Andre was ever 7 FEET TALL, all of these kids would be GIANTS... Click Here
Here's Andre (BAREFOOT) w/ 6'4" Don Leo Jonathan back in 1972: Click Here
And here: Click Here w/ shoes.
Rob, will you give Andre a downgrade...? I'd really appreciate a detailed response, please.
Here's an example of the type of custom-made cowboy boots w/ a HUGE heel that Andre would wear... Click Here
Click Here
I'll end this post w/ my favorite Andre the Giant pic... Enjoy!
Click Here
Editor RobThe discussion on Andre I don't think is ever complete, but over last 13 years of reading, I think on a bad day he might look a couple of inches under 7ft, but at his peak I wouldn't estimate him as short as 6ft 9-10.
62B said on 12/Aug/18
Sotiris, I have stood just as close to NBA listed 7'4" Rik Smits as I did Andre. Smits was for sure noticeably taller than Andre, but not a half a head taller. I would guess that Smits 7'4" listing is in shoes and that he is probably more 7'2.5" to 7'3".
Sotiris, I have stood just as close to NBA listed 7'4" Rik Smits as I did Andre. Smits was for sure noticeably taller than Andre, but not a half a head taller. I would guess that Smits 7'4" listing is in shoes and that he is probably more 7'2.5" to 7'3".
Pdoggy said on 11/Aug/18
It has been proven that Andre's head was at least as large as Maurice Tillets. 13.5" if not more
It has been proven that Andre's head was at least as large as Maurice Tillets. 13.5" if not more
62B said on 10/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Aug/18
Yeah, I'd really like to hear from guys who actually know what they're talking about, like Editor Rob Paul, Canson, and Christian 6'5 3/8", vis-à-vis the pic of André and 4'11" Bill Shoemaker vs. 7'2" Kareem and Shoemaker. Easy to find online and something I haven't seen discussed on this forum. This is a smoking gun IMHO and yet all I get as a response is dead silence and Joey700 reminding us all how madly in love he is w/ me. Sorry, dude, I don't swing that way; look elsewhere; my dance card is full. It's been fun, though.
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Andre was never 7'2". But he was taller than you think. Hogan peak was also a good bit over 6"3". You don't have to believe it. That is your prerogative.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Aug/18
Yeah, I'd really like to hear from guys who actually know what they're talking about, like Editor Rob Paul, Canson, and Christian 6'5 3/8", vis-à-vis the pic of André and 4'11" Bill Shoemaker vs. 7'2" Kareem and Shoemaker. Easy to find online and something I haven't seen discussed on this forum. This is a smoking gun IMHO and yet all I get as a response is dead silence and Joey700 reminding us all how madly in love he is w/ me. Sorry, dude, I don't swing that way; look elsewhere; my dance card is full. It's been fun, though.
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Andre was never 7'2". But he was taller than you think. Hogan peak was also a good bit over 6"3". You don't have to believe it. That is your prerogative.
Gretz said on 10/Aug/18
gravis your just another in a long line of people over the 12 years I have been posting here to make ANDRE LOOK 6'10" or even shorter.You just want to stir the pot,your not even worth the effort beyond that.Look at the top of the page 7'0" it didn`t get there yesterday so take a walk we have heard it all before!
gravis your just another in a long line of people over the 12 years I have been posting here to make ANDRE LOOK 6'10" or even shorter.You just want to stir the pot,your not even worth the effort beyond that.Look at the top of the page 7'0" it didn`t get there yesterday so take a walk we have heard it all before!
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Aug/18
@tree Let's see... First of all, at the very beginning of this promo, and this is a promo, you can clearly see that Andre is wearing CUSTOM-MADE cowboy boots w/ a GIGANTIC 3.5" heel (I remember when RP made fun of me for saying that Andre couldn't have 3" heels b/c cowboy boots ONLY come up close to 2". Well, he didn't wear standard-size boots. Secondly, IF he wore lifts here, it would be customary, given that this is a promo, not a wrestling match. On other occasions, they would have Andre standing on a platform for God's sake. Go look at "WWE Classics--Andre the Giant, AWA w/ Mean Gene" on YouTube... He doesn't look as tall, and he's wearing cowboys here, too.
Look guys, I'd really like to see some commentary on ONE thing and one thing only... Andre next to 4-11 Bill Shoemaker vs. legit 7'2" Kareem next to Shoemaker. These pics prove IMHO that Andre was 6-foot-9 evening height, given that Andre's wearing cowboy boots w/ Shoemaker. I'm sure everybody would rather talk about Hogan and Belzer... Go right ahead... but first, look at these pics and comment on them, not on me, hopefully... Everybody is so quick to give their expert opinion on everything... I'd really love to see ppl commenting on something I find very intriguing: ANDRE... SHOEMAKER... KAREEM. You know where to find me... If I'm wrong, prove me wrong and I'll admit I was wrong. It's as simple as that.
@tree Let's see... First of all, at the very beginning of this promo, and this is a promo, you can clearly see that Andre is wearing CUSTOM-MADE cowboy boots w/ a GIGANTIC 3.5" heel (I remember when RP made fun of me for saying that Andre couldn't have 3" heels b/c cowboy boots ONLY come up close to 2". Well, he didn't wear standard-size boots. Secondly, IF he wore lifts here, it would be customary, given that this is a promo, not a wrestling match. On other occasions, they would have Andre standing on a platform for God's sake. Go look at "WWE Classics--Andre the Giant, AWA w/ Mean Gene" on YouTube... He doesn't look as tall, and he's wearing cowboys here, too.
Look guys, I'd really like to see some commentary on ONE thing and one thing only... Andre next to 4-11 Bill Shoemaker vs. legit 7'2" Kareem next to Shoemaker. These pics prove IMHO that Andre was 6-foot-9 evening height, given that Andre's wearing cowboy boots w/ Shoemaker. I'm sure everybody would rather talk about Hogan and Belzer... Go right ahead... but first, look at these pics and comment on them, not on me, hopefully... Everybody is so quick to give their expert opinion on everything... I'd really love to see ppl commenting on something I find very intriguing: ANDRE... SHOEMAKER... KAREEM. You know where to find me... If I'm wrong, prove me wrong and I'll admit I was wrong. It's as simple as that.
viper said on 10/Aug/18
Some of Sotiris' estimates are good. But the Hogan 6-3 peak stuff is crazy. Which in turn makes Andre shorter.
6-8 peak for Andre? Nah, at least 6-11, and I can buy 7-0 too
Some of Sotiris' estimates are good. But the Hogan 6-3 peak stuff is crazy. Which in turn makes Andre shorter.
6-8 peak for Andre? Nah, at least 6-11, and I can buy 7-0 too
RP said on 10/Aug/18
Great Video Tree!
My goodness in that AWA Mean Gene & Andre promo, top of Gene’s head only comes up to the top of Andre’s pectorals !! That’s at least 16” inch height difference! When you factor in the size of Andre’s Head!
Great Video Tree!
My goodness in that AWA Mean Gene & Andre promo, top of Gene’s head only comes up to the top of Andre’s pectorals !! That’s at least 16” inch height difference! When you factor in the size of Andre’s Head!
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Aug/18
Yeah, I'd really like to hear from guys who actually know what they're talking about, like Editor Rob Paul, Canson, and Christian 6'5 3/8", vis-à-vis the pic of André and 4'11" Bill Shoemaker vs. 7'2" Kareem and Shoemaker. Easy to find online and something I haven't seen discussed on this forum. This is a smoking gun IMHO and yet all I get as a response is dead silence and Joey700 reminding us all how madly in love he is w/ me. Sorry, dude, I don't swing that way; look elsewhere; my dance card is full. It's been fun, though.
Yeah, I'd really like to hear from guys who actually know what they're talking about, like Editor Rob Paul, Canson, and Christian 6'5 3/8", vis-à-vis the pic of André and 4'11" Bill Shoemaker vs. 7'2" Kareem and Shoemaker. Easy to find online and something I haven't seen discussed on this forum. This is a smoking gun IMHO and yet all I get as a response is dead silence and Joey700 reminding us all how madly in love he is w/ me. Sorry, dude, I don't swing that way; look elsewhere; my dance card is full. It's been fun, though.
tree said on 10/Aug/18
Also Sotiris U acnowelegged that Mean Gene was 5ft8 u even called him 5'9,than how could Andre whos head was 30 cm long be only 6ft9??? When he stands straight he looks like to have a full head and 10cm on Gene 0:18
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Also Sotiris U acnowelegged that Mean Gene was 5ft8 u even called him 5'9,than how could Andre whos head was 30 cm long be only 6ft9??? When he stands straight he looks like to have a full head and 10cm on Gene 0:18
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tree said on 10/Aug/18
Stop this BS that Andre was 6ft8,did u saw him with ZORRO and Wilt?
Stop this BS that Andre was 6ft8,did u saw him with ZORRO and Wilt?
Joey700 said on 9/Aug/18
SotirisGravas Google pics of Ernie ladd with Buck Buchanon and you will see that he is taller. Ernie was an old man by 1999 so he probably had lost a few inches will all the football and pro wrestling. I am not bragging about myself being so much taller than everyone like you have been and I did not make up a story about being the next Arnold S. Anybody can photoshop pictures to look taller . Nobody in middle age can go to sleep and then wake up 1 1/2 inches taller so please stop with the lies.
SotirisGravas Google pics of Ernie ladd with Buck Buchanon and you will see that he is taller. Ernie was an old man by 1999 so he probably had lost a few inches will all the football and pro wrestling. I am not bragging about myself being so much taller than everyone like you have been and I did not make up a story about being the next Arnold S. Anybody can photoshop pictures to look taller . Nobody in middle age can go to sleep and then wake up 1 1/2 inches taller so please stop with the lies.
Sotiris Gravas said on 9/Aug/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Thanks for that, Christian, I appreciate it.
@Joey700 You said I was wrong about Ernie Ladd never being 6'9", so I brought up proof he was around 6'6" based off of his appearance on "That 70s Show" back in 1999 (along w/ 6'2.5" The Rock) that anyone can see on YouTube right now. And your rebuttal was... what...? That I wear lifts...? Even if I wore a dress, who cares? THAT was your response...? Are you obsessed w/ me or something? If you wanna know how big I am, go on my Twitter account (just Google my name). I recently posted a pic of myself (around 6'7") next to my mom again (around 5'5.5") followed by a pic of 6'6" Kane in his civilian clothes next to 5'6" Rand Paul, for comparison. Not only do I tower over my mom, Kane actually looks only 6'5" in that photo. Don't believe me...? Go look! The gentleman on this forum who goes by "RP" already posted that he saw my Twitter pics and confirmed that a 6'8" morning height for me is totally believable, and that he can see how ppl might mistake me for 6'9" or even 6'10". I'm curious, how tall are you, Joey? Do you have a Napoleon Complex or something, or maybe just a big chip on your shoulder compressing your apparent lack of a spine? I'd rather we be social media pals, Joe, but you make it very difficult.
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Thanks for that, Christian, I appreciate it.
@Joey700 You said I was wrong about Ernie Ladd never being 6'9", so I brought up proof he was around 6'6" based off of his appearance on "That 70s Show" back in 1999 (along w/ 6'2.5" The Rock) that anyone can see on YouTube right now. And your rebuttal was... what...? That I wear lifts...? Even if I wore a dress, who cares? THAT was your response...? Are you obsessed w/ me or something? If you wanna know how big I am, go on my Twitter account (just Google my name). I recently posted a pic of myself (around 6'7") next to my mom again (around 5'5.5") followed by a pic of 6'6" Kane in his civilian clothes next to 5'6" Rand Paul, for comparison. Not only do I tower over my mom, Kane actually looks only 6'5" in that photo. Don't believe me...? Go look! The gentleman on this forum who goes by "RP" already posted that he saw my Twitter pics and confirmed that a 6'8" morning height for me is totally believable, and that he can see how ppl might mistake me for 6'9" or even 6'10". I'm curious, how tall are you, Joey? Do you have a Napoleon Complex or something, or maybe just a big chip on your shoulder compressing your apparent lack of a spine? I'd rather we be social media pals, Joe, but you make it very difficult.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/18
@Joey700
I don't really agree with some of Sotiris' estimates but I have no reason to believe he's trolling or anything like that. He's a reasonable poster from what I've seen. Why is estimating wrestlers lower than what Rob lists them considered "cutting down"?
@Joey700
I don't really agree with some of Sotiris' estimates but I have no reason to believe he's trolling or anything like that. He's a reasonable poster from what I've seen. Why is estimating wrestlers lower than what Rob lists them considered "cutting down"?
Joey700 said on 9/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas You sound like you have a serious issue with anybody being taller than you which is why you seem to be trolling everyone. Maybe you are really just a 6 footer with big lifts? Cutting everybody down to make you feel bigger is not cool dude.
Sotiris Gravas You sound like you have a serious issue with anybody being taller than you which is why you seem to be trolling everyone. Maybe you are really just a 6 footer with big lifts? Cutting everybody down to make you feel bigger is not cool dude.
62B said on 8/Aug/18
Sotiris. Hard to take you seriously when you say Tenta and Hogan were never over 6'3". You seem like a decent enough guy, but I've seem Hogan in his prime, and had a known height to judge him by. I don't feel like going through the hassle of posting the video, but watch Early Hogan vs Dibias 1979. I promise you Dibiase was all of 6'3". My opinion taller.
Sotiris. Hard to take you seriously when you say Tenta and Hogan were never over 6'3". You seem like a decent enough guy, but I've seem Hogan in his prime, and had a known height to judge him by. I don't feel like going through the hassle of posting the video, but watch Early Hogan vs Dibias 1979. I promise you Dibiase was all of 6'3". My opinion taller.
JT said on 8/Aug/18
Click Here The guy next to Andre is Mick McMichael, who looked roughly the height of 5’3” Jim Breaks (5 inches shorter than Dynamite Kid) when they wrestled.
Click Here The guy next to Andre is Mick McMichael, who looked roughly the height of 5’3” Jim Breaks (5 inches shorter than Dynamite Kid) when they wrestled.
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Aug/18
@Joey700 Thanks for your response, Joey. Your post definitely gave me pause. First I'll say that most ppl think NFL measurements are 100% accurate -- they're not. You politely suggested that I do better research... I did. Ernie Ladd appeared on an episode of "That 70s Show" way back in 1999. So did The Rock on that very same episode. I hate to break it to you, but Ladd only looked 6-foot-6 (MAX) next to 6'2.5" The Rock and 6'1" peak height Kurtwood Smith. To make matters worse, he appeared to be wearing cowboy boots. Please, don't tell me that everyone around him was wearing lifts, b/c I don't buy it. So, you were saying...?
@Joey700 Thanks for your response, Joey. Your post definitely gave me pause. First I'll say that most ppl think NFL measurements are 100% accurate -- they're not. You politely suggested that I do better research... I did. Ernie Ladd appeared on an episode of "That 70s Show" way back in 1999. So did The Rock on that very same episode. I hate to break it to you, but Ladd only looked 6-foot-6 (MAX) next to 6'2.5" The Rock and 6'1" peak height Kurtwood Smith. To make matters worse, he appeared to be wearing cowboy boots. Please, don't tell me that everyone around him was wearing lifts, b/c I don't buy it. So, you were saying...?
Joey700 said on 8/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas- Sounds like he is trolling everyone and making up stories about being the next Arnold S. and wants everybody to be shorter than he claims he is. That is funny!
Sotiris Gravas- Sounds like he is trolling everyone and making up stories about being the next Arnold S. and wants everybody to be shorter than he claims he is. That is funny!
Joey700 said on 8/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas - Studd wore lifts so that is why he seems to be the same height as Ernie Ladd. Ernie Ladd towers over football players he played with like Buck Buchanon who was 6'7". Better do better research next time .
Sotiris Gravas - Studd wore lifts so that is why he seems to be the same height as Ernie Ladd. Ernie Ladd towers over football players he played with like Buck Buchanon who was 6'7". Better do better research next time .
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Aug/18
@tree Sorry, dude I just saw your post... A 6'4.75" Charles Barkley definitely had on 2-inch heels b/c 5'9" Mean Gene came up to his chin. As for Tenta, I guarantee you he was NEVER more than around 6'3" (same as Hogan). Big Boss Man was an inch shorter. Look at the "John Tenta is NOT a SHARK!" YouTube video and you can CLEARLY see Okerlund coming up to his nose. Trust me. Better yet, don't trust me... go see for yourself. Sometimes they did promos where they have a wrestler standing on a platform to look more imposing. They ALWAYS did it for Andre.
@RP I'm very tired right now and need sleep. I think I might have replied to you that Andre's cowboy boots were "homemade" rather than "handmade"... Did I? If I did, you have permission to slap the stupid out of me. Actually, I still wouldn't if I were you. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. Kidding.
Take care, fellas.
@tree Sorry, dude I just saw your post... A 6'4.75" Charles Barkley definitely had on 2-inch heels b/c 5'9" Mean Gene came up to his chin. As for Tenta, I guarantee you he was NEVER more than around 6'3" (same as Hogan). Big Boss Man was an inch shorter. Look at the "John Tenta is NOT a SHARK!" YouTube video and you can CLEARLY see Okerlund coming up to his nose. Trust me. Better yet, don't trust me... go see for yourself. Sometimes they did promos where they have a wrestler standing on a platform to look more imposing. They ALWAYS did it for Andre.
@RP I'm very tired right now and need sleep. I think I might have replied to you that Andre's cowboy boots were "homemade" rather than "handmade"... Did I? If I did, you have permission to slap the stupid out of me. Actually, I still wouldn't if I were you. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. Kidding.
Take care, fellas.
viper said on 7/Aug/18
I agree with all of those heights RP. You are a good judge of height imo
I agree with all of those heights RP. You are a good judge of height imo
Canson said on 6/Aug/18
@RP: I remembered that. That’s why I asked him on the other page how tall he was
@RP: I remembered that. That’s why I asked him on the other page how tall he was
62B said on 6/Aug/18
RP said on 5/Aug/18
62B, you probably have met more pro wrestlers in person TVs. Anyone else on this board. Could you give us your best estimates on all the Ines you just listed & the dates you met them? Like I’ve said before...my average daily barefoot height is 5’11” @ age 42...5’10-7/8” to be absolutely exact! Here is the list & dates of the ones I’ve met in person & my best estimates.
RP. The time frame that I was seeing most of the wrestlers was late 80's to early 90's when I was in the Army or shortly after I got out. Hogan was one of the exceptions as in the early 80's I was so into wrestling that my father took me to a few events. Hogan was not the only person I saw early 80's but he stands out in my memory because he was the first person I had ever seen bigger and taller than my grandfather. While in the army from 1987-1991 I saw a few wrestlers at airports and for a period I had a room mate that was into wrestling so we went not only to events but he seemed to know where they would be staying so we went and hung out at the bars of the hotels they were staying at. A lot of the wrestlers I saw during that period I couldn't give you exact height guesses because for one they would be sitting down or maybe across the room, and at that time I wasn't really interested at guessing heights. so the ones that stick out are ones that I was right next to or talked with. I was surprised to see Ted Dibiase my height, and I was surprised to see Lex Luger shorter than me. I will give you my best guestimates on the ones I remember most vividly.
Andre: 6'11" 1988 Milwaukee airport. At that time Andre stood around at about 6'9", But in person you could tell it was his posture and that he was taller. There was a guy in my motor pool that stood 6'9" stocking foot and Andre was taller by a few inches when he stood tall.
Hogan: 6'5" - 6'5.5" 1980 Brown County arena. Stopped right in front of us as he was walking by. Only reason I can say with confidence that he was over 6'4" is that he was taller than my Grandfather. Not by much, but probably about an inch or so.
Lex Luger: 6'2 3/4". 1988ish Alexandria Louisiana stadium of some sort. A group of friends and I had aisle seats. Luger was being billed at 6'4". He was walking with authority, but as he was passing us my 6'6" friend tried to pat him on the back. Luger stiff armed him and sent him flying. As that was happening I had turned to my group of friends in disbelief that Luger was shorter than me. Not by much, but they all agreed he was shorter. probably by a half an inch. As a side note to that event. Iron sheik = short, Hot stuff Eddy Gilbert = short, Michael P S Hayse 6'ish
Hacksaw Dugan: 1988. 6"2.5" Alexandria Louisiana airport. I was directly behind Dugan in line. He reminded me of a grizzly bear, big and hairy. Traveling with a hot bleached blond. He appeared my same height although he had on some clod hopper hiking or work type boot compared to my worn down running shoes. He also had poofier hair.
Shawn Michaels: 1988ish maybe 1989 5'11ish. Some restaurant/bar not far from FT Polk Louisiana. Maybe Lake Charles. Talked to Shawn briefly at the bar. He looked a little over 6", maybe as tall as 6'1". I noticed he was wearing cowboy boots with a pretty good heel though, and I had on those same worn out running shoes I was in when I saw Duggan so I knew he was under 6'. Mart Jenety was there too, but never got close to him. From a distance he was for sure shorter than Michaels.
Warlord: 6'5" Maybe taller. Another Army lets go watch wrestling trip from probably 1989 or 1990. Lots of stars there but we had bad seats. At some point I was getting refreshments and I happened to be within 10 to 15 feet of Warlord. He was a really big really strong looking guy. I could see the texture in his muscles. For sure had 2" on me from what I could tell. We went to the Holiday Inn and hung out at the bar afterword's and saw and even talked to a bunch, like the Rogue Brothers, Jim the Anvil, Haku or Meng( cant remember which character he was back then), but never really paid a lot of attention to their heights as they were either siting sown or across the bar. Plus Anvil was asking my friend if he could get him pot in the bathroom, which put him in a bad mood so we left.
Early 1990's. Probably 1992 or 1993 as my son was a baby. There was a WWF event at the local college arena. I worked out early at the YMCA at the time and saw Ted Dibiase, IRS, Undertaker, and Crush working out. I was right next to Dibiase several times for whatever reason and seeing as there were mirrors everywhere I could see that he was pretty much the same height as I was. I actually felt he edged me out so
Ted Dibiase: 6'3.5"
Crush: 6'5". I didn't get super close but probably 10 to 15 feet
IRS: Maybe 6'1". He spent a lot of time sitting down using the Nautilus machines. I didn't get super close but at times he and Debiase were next to each other. Ted was definitely taller
Undertaker: 6'7". Again I didn't get super close, but seeing him interact with the other wresters he was for sure the tallest. He was the tallest in the gym.
RP said on 5/Aug/18
62B, you probably have met more pro wrestlers in person TVs. Anyone else on this board. Could you give us your best estimates on all the Ines you just listed & the dates you met them? Like I’ve said before...my average daily barefoot height is 5’11” @ age 42...5’10-7/8” to be absolutely exact! Here is the list & dates of the ones I’ve met in person & my best estimates.
RP. The time frame that I was seeing most of the wrestlers was late 80's to early 90's when I was in the Army or shortly after I got out. Hogan was one of the exceptions as in the early 80's I was so into wrestling that my father took me to a few events. Hogan was not the only person I saw early 80's but he stands out in my memory because he was the first person I had ever seen bigger and taller than my grandfather. While in the army from 1987-1991 I saw a few wrestlers at airports and for a period I had a room mate that was into wrestling so we went not only to events but he seemed to know where they would be staying so we went and hung out at the bars of the hotels they were staying at. A lot of the wrestlers I saw during that period I couldn't give you exact height guesses because for one they would be sitting down or maybe across the room, and at that time I wasn't really interested at guessing heights. so the ones that stick out are ones that I was right next to or talked with. I was surprised to see Ted Dibiase my height, and I was surprised to see Lex Luger shorter than me. I will give you my best guestimates on the ones I remember most vividly.
Andre: 6'11" 1988 Milwaukee airport. At that time Andre stood around at about 6'9", But in person you could tell it was his posture and that he was taller. There was a guy in my motor pool that stood 6'9" stocking foot and Andre was taller by a few inches when he stood tall.
Hogan: 6'5" - 6'5.5" 1980 Brown County arena. Stopped right in front of us as he was walking by. Only reason I can say with confidence that he was over 6'4" is that he was taller than my Grandfather. Not by much, but probably about an inch or so.
Lex Luger: 6'2 3/4". 1988ish Alexandria Louisiana stadium of some sort. A group of friends and I had aisle seats. Luger was being billed at 6'4". He was walking with authority, but as he was passing us my 6'6" friend tried to pat him on the back. Luger stiff armed him and sent him flying. As that was happening I had turned to my group of friends in disbelief that Luger was shorter than me. Not by much, but they all agreed he was shorter. probably by a half an inch. As a side note to that event. Iron sheik = short, Hot stuff Eddy Gilbert = short, Michael P S Hayse 6'ish
Hacksaw Dugan: 1988. 6"2.5" Alexandria Louisiana airport. I was directly behind Dugan in line. He reminded me of a grizzly bear, big and hairy. Traveling with a hot bleached blond. He appeared my same height although he had on some clod hopper hiking or work type boot compared to my worn down running shoes. He also had poofier hair.
Shawn Michaels: 1988ish maybe 1989 5'11ish. Some restaurant/bar not far from FT Polk Louisiana. Maybe Lake Charles. Talked to Shawn briefly at the bar. He looked a little over 6", maybe as tall as 6'1". I noticed he was wearing cowboy boots with a pretty good heel though, and I had on those same worn out running shoes I was in when I saw Duggan so I knew he was under 6'. Mart Jenety was there too, but never got close to him. From a distance he was for sure shorter than Michaels.
Warlord: 6'5" Maybe taller. Another Army lets go watch wrestling trip from probably 1989 or 1990. Lots of stars there but we had bad seats. At some point I was getting refreshments and I happened to be within 10 to 15 feet of Warlord. He was a really big really strong looking guy. I could see the texture in his muscles. For sure had 2" on me from what I could tell. We went to the Holiday Inn and hung out at the bar afterword's and saw and even talked to a bunch, like the Rogue Brothers, Jim the Anvil, Haku or Meng( cant remember which character he was back then), but never really paid a lot of attention to their heights as they were either siting sown or across the bar. Plus Anvil was asking my friend if he could get him pot in the bathroom, which put him in a bad mood so we left.
Early 1990's. Probably 1992 or 1993 as my son was a baby. There was a WWF event at the local college arena. I worked out early at the YMCA at the time and saw Ted Dibiase, IRS, Undertaker, and Crush working out. I was right next to Dibiase several times for whatever reason and seeing as there were mirrors everywhere I could see that he was pretty much the same height as I was. I actually felt he edged me out so
Ted Dibiase: 6'3.5"
Crush: 6'5". I didn't get super close but probably 10 to 15 feet
IRS: Maybe 6'1". He spent a lot of time sitting down using the Nautilus machines. I didn't get super close but at times he and Debiase were next to each other. Ted was definitely taller
Undertaker: 6'7". Again I didn't get super close, but seeing him interact with the other wresters he was for sure the tallest. He was the tallest in the gym.
RP said on 6/Aug/18
Sotiris! LOL!!! Love it 😂😂 your post are awesome! LEGIT!
Sotiris! LOL!!! Love it 😂😂 your post are awesome! LEGIT!
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Aug/18
A little corollary to a previous post. Full disclosure: I intimated that as of today, I am now 260 lbs, exactly. Turns out, losing 5 lbs due to dehydration after a 4-hour-long power walk is only temporary and I'm back up to 265 lbs. Far be it from me to try and purposefully mislead anyone on this site. Though I might be given to hyperbole, mendacity is not part of my nature. Does that make me a paragon of virtue...? Certainly not! Do I forgive kayfabe weight/height exaggerations...? NEVER! Kidding.
A little corollary to a previous post. Full disclosure: I intimated that as of today, I am now 260 lbs, exactly. Turns out, losing 5 lbs due to dehydration after a 4-hour-long power walk is only temporary and I'm back up to 265 lbs. Far be it from me to try and purposefully mislead anyone on this site. Though I might be given to hyperbole, mendacity is not part of my nature. Does that make me a paragon of virtue...? Certainly not! Do I forgive kayfabe weight/height exaggerations...? NEVER! Kidding.
RP said on 6/Aug/18
To all...please excuse the sloopy post....my iPhone keyboard is currently jacked up 🙄
To all...please excuse the sloopy post....my iPhone keyboard is currently jacked up 🙄
RP said on 5/Aug/18
62B, you probably have met more pro wrestlers in person TVs. Anyone else on this board. Could you give us your best estimates on all the Ines you just listed & the dates you met them? Like I’ve said before...my average daily barefoot height is 5’11” @ age 42...5’10-7/8” to be absolutely exact! Here is the list & dates of the ones I’ve met in person & my best estimates.
Ric Flair 1997: 5’11” to 5’11-1/4”
Ric Flair 2010: 5’10”
Randy Savage 1997: 6’0” to 6’0-1/4”
Rick Rude 1997: 6’3”
Big Boss Man 2000: 6’3”
Lex Luger 1997: 6’3” to 6’3-1/4”
Sting 1997: 6’2” to 6’2-1/4”
Braun Strowman aka Adam Scherr: (multiple times from 2008-2013): 6’7-1/4”... he was measured @ 6’7-1/2” barefoot & 402 lbs at approximately 8am @ a Strongman event in 2012.
Mark Canterbury: known my entire life! Peak 6’4” & currently he’s a hair over 6’3”.
Ric Flair 1997:
62B, you probably have met more pro wrestlers in person TVs. Anyone else on this board. Could you give us your best estimates on all the Ines you just listed & the dates you met them? Like I’ve said before...my average daily barefoot height is 5’11” @ age 42...5’10-7/8” to be absolutely exact! Here is the list & dates of the ones I’ve met in person & my best estimates.
Ric Flair 1997: 5’11” to 5’11-1/4”
Ric Flair 2010: 5’10”
Randy Savage 1997: 6’0” to 6’0-1/4”
Rick Rude 1997: 6’3”
Big Boss Man 2000: 6’3”
Lex Luger 1997: 6’3” to 6’3-1/4”
Sting 1997: 6’2” to 6’2-1/4”
Braun Strowman aka Adam Scherr: (multiple times from 2008-2013): 6’7-1/4”... he was measured @ 6’7-1/2” barefoot & 402 lbs at approximately 8am @ a Strongman event in 2012.
Mark Canterbury: known my entire life! Peak 6’4” & currently he’s a hair over 6’3”.
Ric Flair 1997:
RP said on 5/Aug/18
Sotiris, to follow up on the tweet...it’s dated April 22nd?? Doesn’t say the year?? I’m assuming that may mean 2018? That means your own personal height claims are now. Full one inch different in 4 short months??? Tweet is in regards to Karl Malone’s true barefoot height ?? Includes Hulk Hogan, Dennis Rodman & Magic Johnson on it? This makes it look like you are simply trolling people, LOL! Your post are actually good, well thought out & entertaining. However, if you can’t keep your own personal height accurate? Then how can you properly judge other people’s height ? Also, you claim in several of your older tweets that cowboy boots boost man’s height by 3” inches 😂🤣LOL! That’s absolutely ridiculous ... at best , they boost your height by approximately 2” inches ! ...actually, the traditional western cowboy boot boost you from your barefoot height just “under” 2” inches @ 1.875” (1-7/8”) ...3” inch chain is just ignorant! Unless you are insinuating that these individuals are not only wearing the cowboy boots with 2”inch heels, but they also inserting 1 inch lifts into them ?? Nothing personal ...just a few things I noticed from your tweeter page, that you asked us to go check out? Also, if that is really you in those pictures ?... you are indeed a very large and tall human being!! I bet you often get mistaken for 6’9”...maybe even 6’10” by the average person, Who doesn’t understand true barefoot height.
Sotiris, to follow up on the tweet...it’s dated April 22nd?? Doesn’t say the year?? I’m assuming that may mean 2018? That means your own personal height claims are now. Full one inch different in 4 short months??? Tweet is in regards to Karl Malone’s true barefoot height ?? Includes Hulk Hogan, Dennis Rodman & Magic Johnson on it? This makes it look like you are simply trolling people, LOL! Your post are actually good, well thought out & entertaining. However, if you can’t keep your own personal height accurate? Then how can you properly judge other people’s height ? Also, you claim in several of your older tweets that cowboy boots boost man’s height by 3” inches 😂🤣LOL! That’s absolutely ridiculous ... at best , they boost your height by approximately 2” inches ! ...actually, the traditional western cowboy boot boost you from your barefoot height just “under” 2” inches @ 1.875” (1-7/8”) ...3” inch chain is just ignorant! Unless you are insinuating that these individuals are not only wearing the cowboy boots with 2”inch heels, but they also inserting 1 inch lifts into them ?? Nothing personal ...just a few things I noticed from your tweeter page, that you asked us to go check out? Also, if that is really you in those pictures ?... you are indeed a very large and tall human being!! I bet you often get mistaken for 6’9”...maybe even 6’10” by the average person, Who doesn’t understand true barefoot height.
RP said on 5/Aug/18
Sotiris, did you grow an inch over the last few years while in your 40’s ?? 🧐🤔🤔
You now claim a morning barefoot height of 6’7-3/4” & an evening height of 6’7”...however, in tweet of your’s from a few years ago...involving Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman & Hollywood Hulk Hogan...you claim a morning barefoot height of 6’6-3/4” & an evening height of 6’6”??? Hmmm?
Sotiris, did you grow an inch over the last few years while in your 40’s ?? 🧐🤔🤔
You now claim a morning barefoot height of 6’7-3/4” & an evening height of 6’7”...however, in tweet of your’s from a few years ago...involving Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman & Hollywood Hulk Hogan...you claim a morning barefoot height of 6’6-3/4” & an evening height of 6’6”??? Hmmm?
62B said on 4/Aug/18
Sotiris I was still a little over 6'3" the time I physically bumped into Andre. When I stood up he stood up as straight as he could. At best the top of my head would have been at Andre's mouth level. So take that how you will for estimating his height in 1988. No doubt in the 70's during his peak he could have been an inch taller. Some of the wrestlers I have been up close to from the 80's to early 90's are Andre, Hacksaw, Dibiase, Mike Rutundo, Crush, Undertaker, Jim the Anvil, Shawn Michaels, Marty Jenety, Lex Luger. I'm sure I am forgetting a few. Oh yeah. cant forget Hogan in 1980
Sotiris I was still a little over 6'3" the time I physically bumped into Andre. When I stood up he stood up as straight as he could. At best the top of my head would have been at Andre's mouth level. So take that how you will for estimating his height in 1988. No doubt in the 70's during his peak he could have been an inch taller. Some of the wrestlers I have been up close to from the 80's to early 90's are Andre, Hacksaw, Dibiase, Mike Rutundo, Crush, Undertaker, Jim the Anvil, Shawn Michaels, Marty Jenety, Lex Luger. I'm sure I am forgetting a few. Oh yeah. cant forget Hogan in 1980
62B said on 4/Aug/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Aug/18
The more I think about it, in the final analysis, I'd be willing to give Andre an EVENING barefoot PEAK height of 6-foot-9 (rather than morning) if Andre had a 12-inch-long head and stood with perfect posture. The only way I'd buy him being 6-foot-10 evening height is if he had a 13-inch long head... almost as big as Maurice Tillet's 13.5-inch measurement. Note to the editor: Rob, what are the chances Andre's head could be that big (minus that BIG head of hair)? Also, is there any chance of a downgrade for Andre, at least 6-foot-10...? No disrespect, but his current listing of 7 feet tall in no way jibes w/ reality. Seeing pics of Hogan standing next to that 7-foot-4-billed-height statue of Andre proves that Andre was certainly never that tall in real life. LOL. Not even 7 feet tall, if you ask me... Which begs the question: what's prompting this listing of 7'0"? Rob...? I'm pretty sure most ppl on this forum would never give him more than 6'10"...
Anyways, it's been fun airing my views on Andre. When I post height-related stuff on Twitter, there's hardly any interest.
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Its so nice of you to give us your final analysis. So nice you are willing to "give" Andre 6'9" evening. Considering you have never met the guy in person. Yeah I know you claim to be a big guy at 6'7", and I know you think a picture is worth a 1000 words. As a pretty tall guy myself I can tell you that in 1988 standing as straight as he could. Andre was at least 6'10". My personal guess is closer to 6'11", but I'm sure he was wearing his orthopedics. Either way, while I am a fraction of Andres over all size I have similar back issues where I have lost height in my upper back and neck area. I am 49 and have lost 3/4" with less pronounced rounding of the neck and shoulders than Andre had at 40. I find it difficult to believe Andre was less than 6'11" peak evening. As for his head size? Honestly all I can say is that Andre was of comic book or CGI proportions. Andre was not the tallest person I have ever seen, or the fattest. But for sure the overall largest.
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Aug/18
The more I think about it, in the final analysis, I'd be willing to give Andre an EVENING barefoot PEAK height of 6-foot-9 (rather than morning) if Andre had a 12-inch-long head and stood with perfect posture. The only way I'd buy him being 6-foot-10 evening height is if he had a 13-inch long head... almost as big as Maurice Tillet's 13.5-inch measurement. Note to the editor: Rob, what are the chances Andre's head could be that big (minus that BIG head of hair)? Also, is there any chance of a downgrade for Andre, at least 6-foot-10...? No disrespect, but his current listing of 7 feet tall in no way jibes w/ reality. Seeing pics of Hogan standing next to that 7-foot-4-billed-height statue of Andre proves that Andre was certainly never that tall in real life. LOL. Not even 7 feet tall, if you ask me... Which begs the question: what's prompting this listing of 7'0"? Rob...? I'm pretty sure most ppl on this forum would never give him more than 6'10"...
Anyways, it's been fun airing my views on Andre. When I post height-related stuff on Twitter, there's hardly any interest.
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Its so nice of you to give us your final analysis. So nice you are willing to "give" Andre 6'9" evening. Considering you have never met the guy in person. Yeah I know you claim to be a big guy at 6'7", and I know you think a picture is worth a 1000 words. As a pretty tall guy myself I can tell you that in 1988 standing as straight as he could. Andre was at least 6'10". My personal guess is closer to 6'11", but I'm sure he was wearing his orthopedics. Either way, while I am a fraction of Andres over all size I have similar back issues where I have lost height in my upper back and neck area. I am 49 and have lost 3/4" with less pronounced rounding of the neck and shoulders than Andre had at 40. I find it difficult to believe Andre was less than 6'11" peak evening. As for his head size? Honestly all I can say is that Andre was of comic book or CGI proportions. Andre was not the tallest person I have ever seen, or the fattest. But for sure the overall largest.
deadman said on 3/Aug/18
nothing to argue....he is a 7 footer
nothing to argue....he is a 7 footer
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Aug/18
The more I think about it, in the final analysis, I'd be willing to give Andre an EVENING barefoot PEAK height of 6-foot-9 (rather than morning) if Andre had a 12-inch-long head and stood with perfect posture. The only way I'd buy him being 6-foot-10 evening height is if he had a 13-inch long head... almost as big as Maurice Tillet's 13.5-inch measurement. Note to the editor: Rob, what are the chances Andre's head could be that big (minus that BIG head of hair)? Also, is there any chance of a downgrade for Andre, at least 6-foot-10...? No disrespect, but his current listing of 7 feet tall in no way jibes w/ reality. Seeing pics of Hogan standing next to that 7-foot-4-billed-height statue of Andre proves that Andre was certainly never that tall in real life. LOL. Not even 7 feet tall, if you ask me... Which begs the question: what's prompting this listing of 7'0"? Rob...? I'm pretty sure most ppl on this forum would never give him more than 6'10"...
Anyways, it's been fun airing my views on Andre. When I post height-related stuff on Twitter, there's hardly any interest.
The more I think about it, in the final analysis, I'd be willing to give Andre an EVENING barefoot PEAK height of 6-foot-9 (rather than morning) if Andre had a 12-inch-long head and stood with perfect posture. The only way I'd buy him being 6-foot-10 evening height is if he had a 13-inch long head... almost as big as Maurice Tillet's 13.5-inch measurement. Note to the editor: Rob, what are the chances Andre's head could be that big (minus that BIG head of hair)? Also, is there any chance of a downgrade for Andre, at least 6-foot-10...? No disrespect, but his current listing of 7 feet tall in no way jibes w/ reality. Seeing pics of Hogan standing next to that 7-foot-4-billed-height statue of Andre proves that Andre was certainly never that tall in real life. LOL. Not even 7 feet tall, if you ask me... Which begs the question: what's prompting this listing of 7'0"? Rob...? I'm pretty sure most ppl on this forum would never give him more than 6'10"...
Anyways, it's been fun airing my views on Andre. When I post height-related stuff on Twitter, there's hardly any interest.
Mickie said on 2/Aug/18
I know there are pictures that suggest a height of 6'8" or 6'9" for Andre, but look at the pictures of him next to Wilt Chamberlain (and Arnold). There's exactly a 0% chance he was only 6'9" unless he was wearing elevator shoes. Wilt was the taller of the two - but not by something like 4 or 5 inches.
I know there are pictures that suggest a height of 6'8" or 6'9" for Andre, but look at the pictures of him next to Wilt Chamberlain (and Arnold). There's exactly a 0% chance he was only 6'9" unless he was wearing elevator shoes. Wilt was the taller of the two - but not by something like 4 or 5 inches.
tree said on 2/Aug/18
@Sotiris Gravas And a 6ft3 Tenta would still make Andre over 6ft8 near the time of his death,i did never read 6ft7-6ft8 estimates for Andre before,it's too low.
@Sotiris Gravas And a 6ft3 Tenta would still make Andre over 6ft8 near the time of his death,i did never read 6ft7-6ft8 estimates for Andre before,it's too low.
tree said on 2/Aug/18
@Sortis
Bret is slouching with Rob no doubt he was over 5ft11
And Gene reaches Earthqakes mouth who has loose psture there,and at 1:55 u can see that Eartquakes shoes give 1 cm Geans 1 inch.
Click Here and i don't know how much height Barkleys shoes gave could had been thoose thick 2 inch Basketball shoes and with Good posture things are different,i am sure Tenta was 6ft5 minimum Click Here
Andre with 6ft3.5 Duncan Regehir Click Here
And With Wilt Click Here
Wilt head more than a full head on Aly 3:21 Click Here
@Sortis
Bret is slouching with Rob no doubt he was over 5ft11
And Gene reaches Earthqakes mouth who has loose psture there,and at 1:55 u can see that Eartquakes shoes give 1 cm Geans 1 inch.
Click Here and i don't know how much height Barkleys shoes gave could had been thoose thick 2 inch Basketball shoes and with Good posture things are different,i am sure Tenta was 6ft5 minimum Click Here
Andre with 6ft3.5 Duncan Regehir Click Here
And With Wilt Click Here
Wilt head more than a full head on Aly 3:21 Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Aug/18
@tree Thanks for responding, dude. I saw the pic of Rob w/ Bret back in 2008... Sorry, but there's only a 3-inch difference there, Rob got it wrong, and Bret is 5'10" max today, I gotta stick to my guns on that one, 100%. As for Earthquake, I respectfully disagree; not a chance in hell he was more than 6'3" (SAME HEIGHT AS HOGAN, 100%), but don't take my word for it... simply check out Earthquake next to Mean Gene Okerlund and then compare that with 6'4.75" Charles Barkley next to Okerlund. Mean Gene's head comes up to around Earthquake's nose, whereas w/ Barkley, he comes up to his chin.(Check out the video of Earthquake sitting on Dino Bravo doing pushups where Okerlund stands "face-to-face" w/ Earthquake.) I'm VERY confident that you'll agree. Which kinda proves my point that Andre was 6'8" EVENING height. I'm willing to concede that Andre never really dipped down to 6'7" evening, only that sometimes it might look it because he's not standing full military posture straight. I was just watching "WWE Classics -- Andre the Giant, AWA w/ Mean Gene" on YouTube where Andre looks taller than he should... then they pan down and we see he's wearing his cowboy boots. I honestly don't think Andre was ever more than 6-foot-9 morning height. I really don't. Based on the 1976 pic of him next to 6'5" Chuck Wepner, there's simply no way he was more than 6'9". Even Chuck Wepner HIMSELF said that Andre was 6'9". I think that should count for something. I strongly encourage you to go look at Earthquake vs. Barkley and then go back and analyze Andre w/ Wepner... When all is said and done... agree to disagree, dude. P.S. Ppl often make the mistake of thinking Andre's BIG hair was part of his skull... IT WASN'T.
Anyways, I'm a big fan of this site. Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
@tree Thanks for responding, dude. I saw the pic of Rob w/ Bret back in 2008... Sorry, but there's only a 3-inch difference there, Rob got it wrong, and Bret is 5'10" max today, I gotta stick to my guns on that one, 100%. As for Earthquake, I respectfully disagree; not a chance in hell he was more than 6'3" (SAME HEIGHT AS HOGAN, 100%), but don't take my word for it... simply check out Earthquake next to Mean Gene Okerlund and then compare that with 6'4.75" Charles Barkley next to Okerlund. Mean Gene's head comes up to around Earthquake's nose, whereas w/ Barkley, he comes up to his chin.(Check out the video of Earthquake sitting on Dino Bravo doing pushups where Okerlund stands "face-to-face" w/ Earthquake.) I'm VERY confident that you'll agree. Which kinda proves my point that Andre was 6'8" EVENING height. I'm willing to concede that Andre never really dipped down to 6'7" evening, only that sometimes it might look it because he's not standing full military posture straight. I was just watching "WWE Classics -- Andre the Giant, AWA w/ Mean Gene" on YouTube where Andre looks taller than he should... then they pan down and we see he's wearing his cowboy boots. I honestly don't think Andre was ever more than 6-foot-9 morning height. I really don't. Based on the 1976 pic of him next to 6'5" Chuck Wepner, there's simply no way he was more than 6'9". Even Chuck Wepner HIMSELF said that Andre was 6'9". I think that should count for something. I strongly encourage you to go look at Earthquake vs. Barkley and then go back and analyze Andre w/ Wepner... When all is said and done... agree to disagree, dude. P.S. Ppl often make the mistake of thinking Andre's BIG hair was part of his skull... IT WASN'T.
Anyways, I'm a big fan of this site. Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
tree said on 1/Aug/18
And TRUMP was .6ft2 but as u get old you loose a few inches NOWADAYS he could be 6ft.
And TRUMP was .6ft2 but as u get old you loose a few inches NOWADAYS he could be 6ft.
tree said on 1/Aug/18
Bret Hart was 6ft tall Rob met him,if he was only 5ft11 he would not get 6ft,and he looked 6ft with him..definitely over 5ft11,and if u think Andre was 6ft7,we have a problem..
Brett Hart was 6ft1 in shoes and reached andre lips normally that would make him 6ft9 but his head was longer so not less than 6ft10 for Andre.
In 1992 Andre with 6ft5.5 Earthquake Click Here
And don't tell me Earthquake is 6ft3 cuz he was measured as a sumo 197cm and he looks that height with every wrestler including Mean Geane the bald fellow.
Bret Hart was 6ft tall Rob met him,if he was only 5ft11 he would not get 6ft,and he looked 6ft with him..definitely over 5ft11,and if u think Andre was 6ft7,we have a problem..
Brett Hart was 6ft1 in shoes and reached andre lips normally that would make him 6ft9 but his head was longer so not less than 6ft10 for Andre.
In 1992 Andre with 6ft5.5 Earthquake Click Here
And don't tell me Earthquake is 6ft3 cuz he was measured as a sumo 197cm and he looks that height with every wrestler including Mean Geane the bald fellow.
ReturnofG said on 1/Aug/18
Lol, Andre peak under 6'9 ? Let's not stop there, I guess we have a 6'8 Big Show, Wilt at best was 6'10 seeing how there wasn't most an inch between them when taking both foot wear out of the equation? After age twenty there wasn't a time Andre was under 6'11 and peaked possibly over 7'1.
Lol, Andre peak under 6'9 ? Let's not stop there, I guess we have a 6'8 Big Show, Wilt at best was 6'10 seeing how there wasn't most an inch between them when taking both foot wear out of the equation? After age twenty there wasn't a time Andre was under 6'11 and peaked possibly over 7'1.
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Aug/18
@tree I'd really like to know when that photo w/ Bret Hart was taken; 1989, perhaps, when they wrestled each other...? I'm pretty confident that by that time, leading up to his death in '93, Andre had lost at least an inch and was closer to -- I know, it sounds crazy -- an evening low of 6-foot-7-ish. Yes, I know how it sounds. I feel like Copernicus who said the sun, not the Earth, was at the center of our solar system... Leading up to his death, Andre wouldn't even stand straight -- he'd stick out his butt like Donald Trump, or ironically, like what we see w/ some dwarfs/"little ppl." There's a nice photo from back in 1972 of Andre (BAREFOOT) next to 6-foot-4 w/o shoes height Don Leo Jonathan (who was billed as 6-foot-9). You'll be amazed at how close in height they look -- the same thing we see w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner in 1976. There are nice recent pics of a now-5-foot-10 Bret Hart next to 6'7.5" barefoot Kevin Nash. I laugh at how Google lists Tatanka (who I've stood next to at my gym about 23 years ago) as 6-foot-2! WHAT A JOKE! Tatanka's peak barefoot height was no more than 5-foot-11, and is now the same height as Hart... 5'10",MAX. I remember being impressed back then at how Tatanka was easily curling 50 lbs dumbbells. My current weight is now only 265 lbs(at around 10% body fat), my arms are only 18.5 inches pumped, and yet bicep curls of anything under 75 lbs is like I'm lifting up a TV remote. I can easily bench 400 lbs (which is hard for guys w/ long arms). Conversely, when Andre did the movie "The Princess Bride" (1987), they had to lower Robin Wright on wires b/c Andre didn't have the strength to catch her and was in pain for most of the shooting. I know... back surgery. Fun fact: 6-foot-4 Liam Neeson auditioned for Andre's part, but was rejected for being "too short." I'll spare you guys my annoying "BELI..."
@tree I'd really like to know when that photo w/ Bret Hart was taken; 1989, perhaps, when they wrestled each other...? I'm pretty confident that by that time, leading up to his death in '93, Andre had lost at least an inch and was closer to -- I know, it sounds crazy -- an evening low of 6-foot-7-ish. Yes, I know how it sounds. I feel like Copernicus who said the sun, not the Earth, was at the center of our solar system... Leading up to his death, Andre wouldn't even stand straight -- he'd stick out his butt like Donald Trump, or ironically, like what we see w/ some dwarfs/"little ppl." There's a nice photo from back in 1972 of Andre (BAREFOOT) next to 6-foot-4 w/o shoes height Don Leo Jonathan (who was billed as 6-foot-9). You'll be amazed at how close in height they look -- the same thing we see w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner in 1976. There are nice recent pics of a now-5-foot-10 Bret Hart next to 6'7.5" barefoot Kevin Nash. I laugh at how Google lists Tatanka (who I've stood next to at my gym about 23 years ago) as 6-foot-2! WHAT A JOKE! Tatanka's peak barefoot height was no more than 5-foot-11, and is now the same height as Hart... 5'10",MAX. I remember being impressed back then at how Tatanka was easily curling 50 lbs dumbbells. My current weight is now only 265 lbs(at around 10% body fat), my arms are only 18.5 inches pumped, and yet bicep curls of anything under 75 lbs is like I'm lifting up a TV remote. I can easily bench 400 lbs (which is hard for guys w/ long arms). Conversely, when Andre did the movie "The Princess Bride" (1987), they had to lower Robin Wright on wires b/c Andre didn't have the strength to catch her and was in pain for most of the shooting. I know... back surgery. Fun fact: 6-foot-4 Liam Neeson auditioned for Andre's part, but was rejected for being "too short." I'll spare you guys my annoying "BELI..."
Sotiris Gravas said on 31/Jul/18
@tree Love seeing rebuttals... I submit that Bret Hart was NEVER more than 5-foot-11 peak height (is currently 5'10", MAX). Love that pic (have seen it before). What I see in that pic is VERY close to what I see in my daily life... and I'm often 6-foot-7 up until midnight. I strongly urge you to look at the movie "The Princess Bride" (1987!!!), specifically the scene I pointed out. Fair warning, in some shots, they have Andre clearly standing on a hidden platform, a ploy often repeated in wrestling promos. Andre was NEVER more than 6-foot-9 barefoot MORNING height. I'd bet my life on it. Also, pics of Big Show next to 6-foot-10 barefoot height Dirk Nowitzki (NOT 7'0" NBA BS height) -- GOOGLE THIS, PLEASE!!! -- is a smoking gun, irrefutable proof that Show is now 6-foot-8, MAX... But I do believe Show used to be 6-foot-9 evening height... taller than Andre's peak... but no longer. Look at "The Princess Bride" next to 5'11" peak height Mandy Patinkin and 5'11" Cary Elwes... There's not even a 1% chance that I'm wrong. BELIEVE IT! Lastly, VERY IMPORTANT: DO NOT GET FOOLED by Andre's BIG hair. His head was big, but not gigantic. (My head is around 10.5" long.) To put things in perspective, look at images of Trump next to Putin, when Trump's standing at attention, not sticking his ass out. There's only about 6 inches between them, and consequently, Trump TOWERS over him (pun intended). P.S. Trump is around 6 feet tall barefoot height (NOT 6-FOOT-3, LOL!!!), as compared to 5'6.5" Putin. I would argue, respectfully, of course, that the difference in that photo is 7 inches, not 9 inches. Translation: 6-foot-8, MAX.
@tree Love seeing rebuttals... I submit that Bret Hart was NEVER more than 5-foot-11 peak height (is currently 5'10", MAX). Love that pic (have seen it before). What I see in that pic is VERY close to what I see in my daily life... and I'm often 6-foot-7 up until midnight. I strongly urge you to look at the movie "The Princess Bride" (1987!!!), specifically the scene I pointed out. Fair warning, in some shots, they have Andre clearly standing on a hidden platform, a ploy often repeated in wrestling promos. Andre was NEVER more than 6-foot-9 barefoot MORNING height. I'd bet my life on it. Also, pics of Big Show next to 6-foot-10 barefoot height Dirk Nowitzki (NOT 7'0" NBA BS height) -- GOOGLE THIS, PLEASE!!! -- is a smoking gun, irrefutable proof that Show is now 6-foot-8, MAX... But I do believe Show used to be 6-foot-9 evening height... taller than Andre's peak... but no longer. Look at "The Princess Bride" next to 5'11" peak height Mandy Patinkin and 5'11" Cary Elwes... There's not even a 1% chance that I'm wrong. BELIEVE IT! Lastly, VERY IMPORTANT: DO NOT GET FOOLED by Andre's BIG hair. His head was big, but not gigantic. (My head is around 10.5" long.) To put things in perspective, look at images of Trump next to Putin, when Trump's standing at attention, not sticking his ass out. There's only about 6 inches between them, and consequently, Trump TOWERS over him (pun intended). P.S. Trump is around 6 feet tall barefoot height (NOT 6-FOOT-3, LOL!!!), as compared to 5'6.5" Putin. I would argue, respectfully, of course, that the difference in that photo is 7 inches, not 9 inches. Translation: 6-foot-8, MAX.
RP said on 31/Jul/18
Tree...that should also be an 80” door too! (6’8”) which Andre barefoot is easily & clearly taller than: judging by Hart being 6’0” & wearing 1” to 1.25” sneakers (standing 6’1” in footwear) ...along with the doorway...I totally Agree! Barefoot Andre looks 6’10” easy! More like 6’10-1/2” IMO. And, correct his posture, and you’ve probably got 6’11”.
Tree...that should also be an 80” door too! (6’8”) which Andre barefoot is easily & clearly taller than: judging by Hart being 6’0” & wearing 1” to 1.25” sneakers (standing 6’1” in footwear) ...along with the doorway...I totally Agree! Barefoot Andre looks 6’10” easy! More like 6’10-1/2” IMO. And, correct his posture, and you’ve probably got 6’11”.
tree said on 31/Jul/18
Hart in shoes would be 6ft1 and reaches Andres lips,given andres huge head lenght thats atleast 9 inch difference there,6ft8-6ft9 is impossible.
Hart in shoes would be 6ft1 and reaches Andres lips,given andres huge head lenght thats atleast 9 inch difference there,6ft8-6ft9 is impossible.
tree said on 31/Jul/18
@Sotiris Gravas
Man Here is Andre with 6ft Bret Hart without shoes Click Here
The lowest u could argue for andre is 6ft10,there is no evidence he was under that.
@Sotiris Gravas
Man Here is Andre with 6ft Bret Hart without shoes Click Here
The lowest u could argue for andre is 6ft10,there is no evidence he was under that.
RP said on 30/Jul/18
Mr Gravas, Andre’s Head was huge! Much large & longer from chin to crown of skull than even large 6’6” to 6’10” men. For heaven’s sake...his head made Wilt look like a pinhead! You can’t compare how a 5’11” man comes up to your lip line vs how a 5’11” man comes up to his chin.
Mr Gravas, Andre’s Head was huge! Much large & longer from chin to crown of skull than even large 6’6” to 6’10” men. For heaven’s sake...his head made Wilt look like a pinhead! You can’t compare how a 5’11” man comes up to your lip line vs how a 5’11” man comes up to his chin.
Halb said on 28/Jul/18
THere's another good one on richardfleischer.com, with the director himself, André is in the background, even with the 1 inch boost from the cowboy boots, André has to look up to Wilt's eyeline.
THere's another good one on richardfleischer.com, with the director himself, André is in the background, even with the 1 inch boost from the cowboy boots, André has to look up to Wilt's eyeline.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Jul/18
Anyone who wants to know Andre's real height only has look at the movie "The Princess Bride" (1987). You have Andre standing next to 5'11" peak height Mandy Patinkin and 5'11" Cary Elwes. Andre doesn't even have a full head on them. Check out the scene where Patinkin walks past Andre 1:14:29... Andre barely passes for 6'7". Seriously! To suggest he's anything over 6-foot-9 morning barefoot height is absurd. Towards the end of his life, Andre went from 6'8" daytime height to something akin to Kristian Nairn's height loss. Don't believe me? Look at the film and see for yourself. I stand by my comments, no pun intended. There's ZERO chance that I'm wrong on this. LOOK AT THE MOVIE. Trust me.
Anyone who wants to know Andre's real height only has look at the movie "The Princess Bride" (1987). You have Andre standing next to 5'11" peak height Mandy Patinkin and 5'11" Cary Elwes. Andre doesn't even have a full head on them. Check out the scene where Patinkin walks past Andre 1:14:29... Andre barely passes for 6'7". Seriously! To suggest he's anything over 6-foot-9 morning barefoot height is absurd. Towards the end of his life, Andre went from 6'8" daytime height to something akin to Kristian Nairn's height loss. Don't believe me? Look at the film and see for yourself. I stand by my comments, no pun intended. There's ZERO chance that I'm wrong on this. LOOK AT THE MOVIE. Trust me.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Jul/18
@Kunoichi Giant Baba was 6-foot-6, MAX. The reason Baba looks taller than 6-foot-8 Andre in the photo you posted is b/c the pic isn't perfectly vertical, it's at an angle.
@Kunoichi Giant Baba was 6-foot-6, MAX. The reason Baba looks taller than 6-foot-8 Andre in the photo you posted is b/c the pic isn't perfectly vertical, it's at an angle.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Jul/18
Guys, Andre was NEVER 7-foot-4, nor was he ever even close to 7 feet tall. Look at pictures of him next to 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels), 5'10" barefoot Bob Backlund, 5'8" barefoot Bruno Sammartino... (Ivan Putski was only 5'6" for goodness sake.) There's a nice pic of Andre w/ 5'9" peak height Michael Douglas. Look at Andre next to 6'5" Chuck Wepner, 6'4" Don Lane, 6'2.5" Muhammad Ali. My daytime barefoot height is around 6'7" and the top of a 5'11" guy's head like Bobby "The Brain" Heenan comes up to my upper lip. That being said, look at video footage on YouTube of Heenan slapping Andre for example ("Bad Guys Gone Good -- WWE Top 10"), not fake photos where Andre is obviously standing on something or when standing very close to the camera; it's almost identical to my height. Picture Heenan slapping me b/c I'm sure 99% of ppl here disagree w/ what I'm saying. Not only was Andre only 6-foot-8, peak height, he was closer to 6'7" prior to his death. BELIEVE IT! One last thing, Hulk Hogan was only 6'3" next to 6'1" Carl Weathers in the TV movie "Assault on Devil's Island" (1997). BELIEVE IT! And Hogan was also the same height back in 1985 when he appeared on an episode of The A-Team. The reason he looked taller was b/c he was wearing his cowboy boots. Ppl see what they wanna see, not what's actually in front of them. There are two guys at my gym, both legit 6-foot-8. Trust me... it's tall enough. One more thing, you can find great online pics of 7'1" Wilt Chamberlain next to Ali and compare them w/ pics of Andre (WITHOUT cowboy boots) next to Ali,"The People's Champ"... All of which proves Andre was never more than 6-foot-8. BELIEVE IT! There's even a nice photo of Andre (NO COWBOY BOOTS) next to Arnie, "The Governator"... Again, no more than 6'8", MAX. Oh, yeah, ppl who think Andre had 8 inches on Don Lane are in serious need of an eye exam. Use your eyes, folks, not your hearts. And please, stop thinking Andre was ever as tall as Chamberlain based off of a photo where Andre is in cowboy boots and almost kissing-the-camera close. Chuck Wepner said Andre was 6-foot-9. He was in the morning... During the evening, however...6'8",TOPS. I know it's annoying, but my catchphrase is "BELIEVE IT!"
Guys, Andre was NEVER 7-foot-4, nor was he ever even close to 7 feet tall. Look at pictures of him next to 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels), 5'10" barefoot Bob Backlund, 5'8" barefoot Bruno Sammartino... (Ivan Putski was only 5'6" for goodness sake.) There's a nice pic of Andre w/ 5'9" peak height Michael Douglas. Look at Andre next to 6'5" Chuck Wepner, 6'4" Don Lane, 6'2.5" Muhammad Ali. My daytime barefoot height is around 6'7" and the top of a 5'11" guy's head like Bobby "The Brain" Heenan comes up to my upper lip. That being said, look at video footage on YouTube of Heenan slapping Andre for example ("Bad Guys Gone Good -- WWE Top 10"), not fake photos where Andre is obviously standing on something or when standing very close to the camera; it's almost identical to my height. Picture Heenan slapping me b/c I'm sure 99% of ppl here disagree w/ what I'm saying. Not only was Andre only 6-foot-8, peak height, he was closer to 6'7" prior to his death. BELIEVE IT! One last thing, Hulk Hogan was only 6'3" next to 6'1" Carl Weathers in the TV movie "Assault on Devil's Island" (1997). BELIEVE IT! And Hogan was also the same height back in 1985 when he appeared on an episode of The A-Team. The reason he looked taller was b/c he was wearing his cowboy boots. Ppl see what they wanna see, not what's actually in front of them. There are two guys at my gym, both legit 6-foot-8. Trust me... it's tall enough. One more thing, you can find great online pics of 7'1" Wilt Chamberlain next to Ali and compare them w/ pics of Andre (WITHOUT cowboy boots) next to Ali,"The People's Champ"... All of which proves Andre was never more than 6-foot-8. BELIEVE IT! There's even a nice photo of Andre (NO COWBOY BOOTS) next to Arnie, "The Governator"... Again, no more than 6'8", MAX. Oh, yeah, ppl who think Andre had 8 inches on Don Lane are in serious need of an eye exam. Use your eyes, folks, not your hearts. And please, stop thinking Andre was ever as tall as Chamberlain based off of a photo where Andre is in cowboy boots and almost kissing-the-camera close. Chuck Wepner said Andre was 6-foot-9. He was in the morning... During the evening, however...6'8",TOPS. I know it's annoying, but my catchphrase is "BELIEVE IT!"
JT said on 26/Jul/18
Click Here Click Here Kiwi Steve was billed at 6’1” so he was probably 5’10”-5’11”. IIRC, both photos were from 1972.
Click Here Click Here Kiwi Steve was billed at 6’1” so he was probably 5’10”-5’11”. IIRC, both photos were from 1972.
Boss said on 25/Jul/18
Andre and Wilt are roughly same height when both are standing with good posture and Andre has about an inch footwear advantage but Wily has better posture. Wilt being 3" taller is a joke. Andre in his boots is taller than Wilt in his boots except when Wilt is on higher ground when they are both holding Arnold up. Most if the other pics have been edited by people here to fit there own argument.
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Andre and Wilt are roughly same height when both are standing with good posture and Andre has about an inch footwear advantage but Wily has better posture. Wilt being 3" taller is a joke. Andre in his boots is taller than Wilt in his boots except when Wilt is on higher ground when they are both holding Arnold up. Most if the other pics have been edited by people here to fit there own argument.
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Boss said on 22/Jul/18
Andre was more than likely 7'1" peak morning and 7' range peak evening height. He lost height due to his condition but could still look 6'11" with decent posture even late in his life.
Andre was more than likely 7'1" peak morning and 7' range peak evening height. He lost height due to his condition but could still look 6'11" with decent posture even late in his life.
Halb said on 22/Jul/18
JT said on 14/Jul/18
...I’d still give Wilt around 7’1” in late 1983 (not sure how accurate that 7’0.5” measurement was or maybe it was at night) and Andre a good 3 inches shorter.
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this seems reasonble
JT said on 14/Jul/18
...I’d still give Wilt around 7’1” in late 1983 (not sure how accurate that 7’0.5” measurement was or maybe it was at night) and Andre a good 3 inches shorter.
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this seems reasonble
RP said on 21/Jul/18
Gretz...100% agree with your entire statement.
Gretz...100% agree with your entire statement.
Gretz said on 19/Jul/18
RP, i agree that Andre at 36(not young for a giant) is around 6'11.5")and already taking about 20 years of bumps.And at one point could perform dropkicks,he was told to stop by Vince SR. as he actually wanted him to move like a slow cumbersome giant.Ironically he could not help but develop into that slow giant anyway,but i think if a pic existed from circa 1970-72 with wilt Back to back.He might edge out Andre by an inch or even less,also i will try to post a pic i had posted 10+years ago with andre and listed 6'4" Dutch Savage(although he was probably in the 6'2" range)but much like the cake pics he is looking in the 7'0" range.There really isn`t much point in posting pics of Andre past 1982 as I am like 99% sure he dropped under 7 foot mark by then.I.M.O the last photo i seen of Andre about 7'0" is the backlund pic from 1978.I have matches i taped on prism from the philadelphia spectrum.One is a steel cage match against close to 6'7" Big John Studd(9/24/83),He actually slams Studd and with the cage to help jumps on him from the 3rd rope.i swear the ring looks damaged under the canvas after that,maybe someone that seen it can help validate that?He still looks like 6'11.5" at least at this point.
RP, i agree that Andre at 36(not young for a giant) is around 6'11.5")and already taking about 20 years of bumps.And at one point could perform dropkicks,he was told to stop by Vince SR. as he actually wanted him to move like a slow cumbersome giant.Ironically he could not help but develop into that slow giant anyway,but i think if a pic existed from circa 1970-72 with wilt Back to back.He might edge out Andre by an inch or even less,also i will try to post a pic i had posted 10+years ago with andre and listed 6'4" Dutch Savage(although he was probably in the 6'2" range)but much like the cake pics he is looking in the 7'0" range.There really isn`t much point in posting pics of Andre past 1982 as I am like 99% sure he dropped under 7 foot mark by then.I.M.O the last photo i seen of Andre about 7'0" is the backlund pic from 1978.I have matches i taped on prism from the philadelphia spectrum.One is a steel cage match against close to 6'7" Big John Studd(9/24/83),He actually slams Studd and with the cage to help jumps on him from the 3rd rope.i swear the ring looks damaged under the canvas after that,maybe someone that seen it can help validate that?He still looks like 6'11.5" at least at this point.
RoelC said on 16/Jul/18
Chelan said on 15/Jul/18
I think this is a better photo of Wilt's footwear.
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And in my opinion, Wilt's boot soles/heels are probably 3/4" - 1" thick. If we knew the length of the boot then it would be rather easy to determine the thickness of the sole/heel. If the boot was 15"-16" long then the soles would be close to an 1" thick. And his boot soles are similar thickness at the front of the boot and the back. So, Wilt would be gaining in height whatever the thickness of those boots soles truly were.... whether it be 1/2", 3/4", 1" and etc.
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I disagree, I think the picture of a boot where the foot is placed flat on the ground, is better than one where the foot is lifted off the ground and slighty turned sideways towards the camera. That creates the illusion the sole is bigger than it actually is.
When placed flat on the ground, you can see how much boost the boot truly gives. Imo it’s pretty clear the boot doesn’t give much of a boost. Certainly not 1 inch or more.
Chelan said on 15/Jul/18
I think this is a better photo of Wilt's footwear.
Click Here
And in my opinion, Wilt's boot soles/heels are probably 3/4" - 1" thick. If we knew the length of the boot then it would be rather easy to determine the thickness of the sole/heel. If the boot was 15"-16" long then the soles would be close to an 1" thick. And his boot soles are similar thickness at the front of the boot and the back. So, Wilt would be gaining in height whatever the thickness of those boots soles truly were.... whether it be 1/2", 3/4", 1" and etc.
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I disagree, I think the picture of a boot where the foot is placed flat on the ground, is better than one where the foot is lifted off the ground and slighty turned sideways towards the camera. That creates the illusion the sole is bigger than it actually is.
When placed flat on the ground, you can see how much boost the boot truly gives. Imo it’s pretty clear the boot doesn’t give much of a boost. Certainly not 1 inch or more.
Charlie Howell said on 16/Jul/18
they say in the HBO documentary,that he was 6'9''-10'' when he started westling,that would tie in with he's first metric billing in the uk,at 208cm and 140kg ,= 6'9.75'' and 22st,he never got much taller,if any in height.just got larger in size,that is because he,s long bones fused,that is why he's Acromegaly was so bad.
they say in the HBO documentary,that he was 6'9''-10'' when he started westling,that would tie in with he's first metric billing in the uk,at 208cm and 140kg ,= 6'9.75'' and 22st,he never got much taller,if any in height.just got larger in size,that is because he,s long bones fused,that is why he's Acromegaly was so bad.
RP said on 16/Jul/18
Wilt’s footwear after further review of all that evidence looks closer to 1” to 0.75” to me. Not the 1.25” I first guessed, due to the B&W photo being deceptive with the shadows. But, definitely Not as thin as 0.5”...at the very least 0.75” & more likely 1”...IMO. So, Andre at worst 6’11-1/2” @ age 36....Just my thoughts.
Wilt’s footwear after further review of all that evidence looks closer to 1” to 0.75” to me. Not the 1.25” I first guessed, due to the B&W photo being deceptive with the shadows. But, definitely Not as thin as 0.5”...at the very least 0.75” & more likely 1”...IMO. So, Andre at worst 6’11-1/2” @ age 36....Just my thoughts.
Gretz said on 15/Jul/18
Danimal,I was not trying to disrespect you my friend.i always thought you looked hard at the evidence presented and gave a solid opinion on what you saw.i started posting here in the summer of 2006,you and jt are the only ones I can remember from that time.I feel like many young people who post here don`t give enough thought to late 60`s early 70`s Andre the guy in the 1969 promo pics and the cake pics from circa 1971.Look at those pics if one of those guys is 6'0" or a tad more this man has to have at one point been 7'0".3 other i can point to are the bobby hull pic(who is around 5'10"-5'10.5",the bob Backlund pic with the cinder block wall behind it from about 1978.And the pic with cheif wahoo mcdaniel who is listed at 6'1"by the Broncos but can`t be more than 5`10" at this point.My point is there are plenty of pics of Andre older or sloutching(it seems natural to do this in pics with people much shorter than yourself).You even have to take the pics at face value,all the pics floating around with Wilt show pics of Andre either equal in height or two inches shorter when he lowers his head this man loses some height.Also the pics with Andre and Big Show next to bruno show me two guys very close in height.
Danimal,I was not trying to disrespect you my friend.i always thought you looked hard at the evidence presented and gave a solid opinion on what you saw.i started posting here in the summer of 2006,you and jt are the only ones I can remember from that time.I feel like many young people who post here don`t give enough thought to late 60`s early 70`s Andre the guy in the 1969 promo pics and the cake pics from circa 1971.Look at those pics if one of those guys is 6'0" or a tad more this man has to have at one point been 7'0".3 other i can point to are the bobby hull pic(who is around 5'10"-5'10.5",the bob Backlund pic with the cinder block wall behind it from about 1978.And the pic with cheif wahoo mcdaniel who is listed at 6'1"by the Broncos but can`t be more than 5`10" at this point.My point is there are plenty of pics of Andre older or sloutching(it seems natural to do this in pics with people much shorter than yourself).You even have to take the pics at face value,all the pics floating around with Wilt show pics of Andre either equal in height or two inches shorter when he lowers his head this man loses some height.Also the pics with Andre and Big Show next to bruno show me two guys very close in height.
62B said on 15/Jul/18
There can be as many pictures or video posted as people want. Fact is, in 1988 mid to late morning, my at the time 6'3.25" self came up to at best Andre's mouth when he stood tall. Andre was decrepit by 1988 so even if he was wearing his orthopedics he was no less than 6'10" and probably more like 6'11", because I was really closer to his bottom lip. Hard for me to believe he was any less than 6'11" peak evening and probably the full 7' early in the day. Andre gave up a lot of height in posture and no doubt lost an abnormal amount of height for a 40 year old due to his size, long spine, and injuries
There can be as many pictures or video posted as people want. Fact is, in 1988 mid to late morning, my at the time 6'3.25" self came up to at best Andre's mouth when he stood tall. Andre was decrepit by 1988 so even if he was wearing his orthopedics he was no less than 6'10" and probably more like 6'11", because I was really closer to his bottom lip. Hard for me to believe he was any less than 6'11" peak evening and probably the full 7' early in the day. Andre gave up a lot of height in posture and no doubt lost an abnormal amount of height for a 40 year old due to his size, long spine, and injuries
Chelan said on 15/Jul/18
RoelC said on 14/Jul/18
This is probably one of the best shots of Wilt’s footwear and that’s definitely no more than ½ an inch.
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I think this is a better photo of Wilt's footwear.
Click Here
And in my opinion, Wilt's boot soles/heels are probably 3/4" - 1" thick. If we knew the length of the boot then it would be rather easy to determine the thickness of the sole/heel. If the boot was 15"-16" long then the soles would be close to an 1" thick. And his boot soles are similar thickness at the front of the boot and the back. So, Wilt would be gaining in height whatever the thickness of those boots soles truly were.... whether it be 1/2", 3/4", 1" and etc.
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RoelC said on 14/Jul/18
This is probably one of the best shots of Wilt’s footwear and that’s definitely no more than ½ an inch.
Click Here
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I think this is a better photo of Wilt's footwear.
Click Here
And in my opinion, Wilt's boot soles/heels are probably 3/4" - 1" thick. If we knew the length of the boot then it would be rather easy to determine the thickness of the sole/heel. If the boot was 15"-16" long then the soles would be close to an 1" thick. And his boot soles are similar thickness at the front of the boot and the back. So, Wilt would be gaining in height whatever the thickness of those boots soles truly were.... whether it be 1/2", 3/4", 1" and etc.
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RoelC said on 14/Jul/18
RP said on 13/Jul/18
RoelC,
Cool photo.
Also proves that Wilt was not in sandles ...but, was also wearing boots. Not, 1.8” to 1.9” cowboy boots like Andre’s...but, 1.25” to 1.3” boots. Some people always tried to claim Wilt had on 0.5” to 0.75” sandles. Still, Andre had a 0.5” footwear advantage ...not the 1”+ many claimed. In the proper angled & better photo, it shows Wilt was approximately 0.5” taller than Andre. Factor in Andre’s 0.5” footwear advantage. Gives you a 7’1” Wilt & 7’0” Andre @ age 35.
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RP you make it sound like you’ve never seen a clear picture of Wilt’s footwear. Wilt wasn’t in sandals but in moccasin boots.
This is probably one of the best shots of Wilt’s footwear and that’s definitely no more than ½ an inch.
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The soles on these boots are smaller than the soles of Andre’s wrestling boots from the 80’s.
The heel & sole of Wilt’s boots look about the same (if not smaller) as those of Arnold’s.
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Now if Arnold’s boots gave him a 1.25” to 1.3” height boost, than he’s at best ~6ft tall in this picture, where he looks no more than 4” taller than a barefoot 5.9 ½” Sarah Douglas. That would put him ~6.1 ½” in those boots.
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As for Andre’s boots, we haven’t seen a clear image of his heels yet, but they’re definitely not the same boots as these ones. So it’s speculating on how big the heels of his boots with Wilt were.
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The heels of those boots are relatively smallish compared to the Andre boots I’ve seen on display in various other pictures.
Andre’s boots next to a regular size cowboy boot. Andre’s heel is much larger. That’s about a 3” heel there, which would give Andre about a 2.25” height boost.
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If Andre wore those type of boots he had about a 1.75” footwear advantage on Wilt.
If he wore the smaller heels, he still had at least a 1.25” footwear advantage.
RP said on 13/Jul/18
RoelC,
Cool photo.
Also proves that Wilt was not in sandles ...but, was also wearing boots. Not, 1.8” to 1.9” cowboy boots like Andre’s...but, 1.25” to 1.3” boots. Some people always tried to claim Wilt had on 0.5” to 0.75” sandles. Still, Andre had a 0.5” footwear advantage ...not the 1”+ many claimed. In the proper angled & better photo, it shows Wilt was approximately 0.5” taller than Andre. Factor in Andre’s 0.5” footwear advantage. Gives you a 7’1” Wilt & 7’0” Andre @ age 35.
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RP you make it sound like you’ve never seen a clear picture of Wilt’s footwear. Wilt wasn’t in sandals but in moccasin boots.
This is probably one of the best shots of Wilt’s footwear and that’s definitely no more than ½ an inch.
Click Here
The soles on these boots are smaller than the soles of Andre’s wrestling boots from the 80’s.
The heel & sole of Wilt’s boots look about the same (if not smaller) as those of Arnold’s.
Click Here
Now if Arnold’s boots gave him a 1.25” to 1.3” height boost, than he’s at best ~6ft tall in this picture, where he looks no more than 4” taller than a barefoot 5.9 ½” Sarah Douglas. That would put him ~6.1 ½” in those boots.
Click Here
As for Andre’s boots, we haven’t seen a clear image of his heels yet, but they’re definitely not the same boots as these ones. So it’s speculating on how big the heels of his boots with Wilt were.
Click Here
The heels of those boots are relatively smallish compared to the Andre boots I’ve seen on display in various other pictures.
Andre’s boots next to a regular size cowboy boot. Andre’s heel is much larger. That’s about a 3” heel there, which would give Andre about a 2.25” height boost.
Click Here
If Andre wore those type of boots he had about a 1.75” footwear advantage on Wilt.
If he wore the smaller heels, he still had at least a 1.25” footwear advantage.
JT said on 14/Jul/18
Thanks for sharing Roel (and Chris). This is with the pic straightened Click Here IIRC the video of Andre’s boots next to Bill Watts’ was from October 1983, or around the same time that Conan was filmed. Considering Wilt had size 15 feet and Andre at least 18, Andre probably had around a 2 inch footwear advantage. The dead giveaway is Andre having to look UP to Wilt even with the footwear advantage. I’d still give Wilt around 7’1” in late 1983 (not sure how accurate that 7’0.5” measurement was or maybe it was at night) and Andre a good 3 inches shorter.
Like Chuck Wepner, Wilt supposedly estimated Andre at 6’9”. I’ve found the Wepner quote but not yet Wilt’s.
Thanks for sharing Roel (and Chris). This is with the pic straightened Click Here IIRC the video of Andre’s boots next to Bill Watts’ was from October 1983, or around the same time that Conan was filmed. Considering Wilt had size 15 feet and Andre at least 18, Andre probably had around a 2 inch footwear advantage. The dead giveaway is Andre having to look UP to Wilt even with the footwear advantage. I’d still give Wilt around 7’1” in late 1983 (not sure how accurate that 7’0.5” measurement was or maybe it was at night) and Andre a good 3 inches shorter.
Like Chuck Wepner, Wilt supposedly estimated Andre at 6’9”. I’ve found the Wepner quote but not yet Wilt’s.
RP said on 13/Jul/18
RoelC,
Cool photo.
Also proves that Wilt was not in sandles ...but, was also wearing boots. Not, 1.8” to 1.9” cowboy boots like Andre’s...but, 1.25” to 1.3” boots. Some people always tried to claim Wilt had on 0.5” to 0.75” sandles. Still, Andre had a 0.5” footwear advantage ...not the 1”+ many claimed. In the proper angled & better photo, it shows Wilt was approximately 0.5” taller than Andre. Factor in Andre’s 0.5” footwear advantage. Gives you a 7’1” Wilt & 7’0” Andre @ age 35.
RoelC,
Cool photo.
Also proves that Wilt was not in sandles ...but, was also wearing boots. Not, 1.8” to 1.9” cowboy boots like Andre’s...but, 1.25” to 1.3” boots. Some people always tried to claim Wilt had on 0.5” to 0.75” sandles. Still, Andre had a 0.5” footwear advantage ...not the 1”+ many claimed. In the proper angled & better photo, it shows Wilt was approximately 0.5” taller than Andre. Factor in Andre’s 0.5” footwear advantage. Gives you a 7’1” Wilt & 7’0” Andre @ age 35.
Roel Cuppen said on 10/Jul/18
Boss said on 9/Jul/18
At the 6:20 mark of new HBO documentary.
This is 1971 he claimed 7'1" and 376 pounds. I think Rob should put this at top of page instead of the just at over 7' which was just someone here mistranslating Andre''s words.
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The audio & video used in the HBO documentary was taken from the same 1971 wrestling promo video that has been posted here multiple times (mostly by you).
Andre claimed he was 214cm and 171kg in that video. Deux mètres quatorze et cent soixante-et-onze kilos is what he said. So the caption on top of this page is a correct translation.
Not that surprising he claimed that height & weight, as it was a wrestling promo video and that's the height & weight he was billed at.
Boss said on 9/Jul/18
At the 6:20 mark of new HBO documentary.
This is 1971 he claimed 7'1" and 376 pounds. I think Rob should put this at top of page instead of the just at over 7' which was just someone here mistranslating Andre''s words.
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The audio & video used in the HBO documentary was taken from the same 1971 wrestling promo video that has been posted here multiple times (mostly by you).
Andre claimed he was 214cm and 171kg in that video. Deux mètres quatorze et cent soixante-et-onze kilos is what he said. So the caption on top of this page is a correct translation.
Not that surprising he claimed that height & weight, as it was a wrestling promo video and that's the height & weight he was billed at.
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