Brad said on 4/Jun/09
Maybe Sly needed those NYC sandals meeting Frank2, they appear to be made by a wizard. He sure looks 5' 10.75" with The Fonz in "The Lords Of Flatbush", laughter.
leone510ss said on 4/Jun/09
frank2 , there is my friend that met sly 3 time and he say that sly is 5'6 / max 5'7" my friend is 5'10.5 tall and he say that sly was 4 inch shorter than him.
maybe sly is 5'7" ,is possible ...not? maybe my friend is right. he is sure of this to 99%.
Felix said on 4/Jun/09
Frank2; Can you tell us about your meeting with Sly? What year and what was he doing? would be great fun :D
My other question, If I recall you met Johnny Depp also, can you give some info about his height if that's the case? :)
Frank2 said on 4/Jun/09
First of all, thanks everyone.
"you have said that there are a lot of probabilities that sly could be 5'7" ...
it's right??? thanks"
Yes, based on what I saw. But in all fairness, he could be 5'8" and was just not standing up as straight as he usually does when we see him wearing huge monster lifts. But no question, he's far from being the 5'10" he claims to be.
And with Arnold, he towered over me when I've stood right next to him. Even with Stallone's monster shoes, he was never as tall a Arnold. I think Arnold was 6'2" in his prime. Today? I don't know. I haven't seen him in years. Not since he went into politics with disastrous results. I wish he'd go back to acting.
leone510ss said on 4/Jun/09
welcome back frank2......i'm very happy that you are back :) ...
one question:
you have said that there are a lot of probabilities that sly could be 5'7" ...
it's right??? thanks :)
Daniel said on 4/Jun/09
Arnold at 6'2'' is absurd. Please go to the Roland Dantes page and watch the left picture.
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 4/Jun/09
I just wanted to say how happy I am that Frank 2 is back again and again. I have so many questions, and when I have more time I will fire away..Those are some prett interesting observations about Charles Bronson.
Ali said on 4/Jun/09
Tellem. Yes I believe there is about 2 inches difference between
Arnold and Stallone. Maybe a bit more.
Sly is about 172cm. And arnold being 2-3 inches taller is max 180cm.
Zach I have no interest in people persisting that Arnold
was about 6'2 peak. It is complete nonsense.
Zach said on 4/Jun/09
lol@shredder.
Ali - Frank2 saw Stallone at max 5'8 as he says below and if I remember correctly also saw Arnold at his peak at 6'2.
the shredder said on 4/Jun/09
I got to say , its good to see Frank2 on here , I miss this guy !
Frank2 , In your opinion where do you think Sly got his 5'10.75 claim from ? His Ass LOL ?
James said on 4/Jun/09
5'8 barefoot for Sly makes sense because that puts him at 6' in his customs, add the military stance and he appears 6'1 and in my opinion that's the tallest he's ever looked in any credible photo. 5'8 is also consistent with the golf photos where he looked only a little bit taller than 5'8 Nicholson and Sly's ankles were a little high in those golf shoes which gave him the advantage over Jack (not too mention Sly's military stance). Finally, we can put an end to this 5'10 and 5'11 nonsense. Thank you Frank! Good to see someone who's actually met Sly!
Frank2 said on 4/Jun/09
"Frank2: Would you say there is a big chance Stallone is 5'8.5?
Please reply. I appreciate it."
First off thanks for the welcome. Rob emailed me today to let me know about Glenn. I had a good laugh! Sly is probably 5'8", but certainly no more than that. I'm 5'11" so when I saw him without shoes I had at least four inches on him. I could just about look over the top of his head. But with those cowboy boots on, he was near my height. I think seeing the big difference in height really threw me. His boots had two inch heels, maybe two and a half and the rest must have been made up with lifts inside.
As for Richard Burton, I met him and he was only an inch shorter than me. Now he might have been wearing lifts that day, but I don't seem to remember that he was wearing anything obvious. With truly short actors like Kirk Douglas, their lifts usually stood out like a sore thumb. Charles Bronson was about 5'7". I noticed with him that he must have suffered from one leg being shorter than the other since I saw a larger heel on one shoe.
RisingForce said on 3/Jun/09
Welcome back Frank2 and I'd like to apologize for being disrespectful and doubting if you were 100% legit when you last posted here. I later found out that you had proven that you were 100% legit to Rob. While I still disagree with you on Stallone(I think he's atleast 5'10"), I'm glad to see you back regardless.
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 3/Jun/09
Frank2 I am really happy that you are back with us in here. I really enjoy reading your stories about the old time Hollywood stars.
Gentleman, could we please stop talking about this morning, evening height BS. If your 5'6 your 5'6 unless your packing some lifts.
James said on 3/Jun/09
Vibram says on 3/Jun/09
James, 5ft9 is short for a leading man role in films though. From Richard Burton to Charles Bronson, these were men below 5ft9 but were made to look well over 5ft10 with stuffed footwear, camera angles, shorter co-stars and developed upper bodies.
In the old days mabey but nowdays there are a ton of average height actors in lead roles plus a ton of them who are below average height. Times have changed.
Roger said on 3/Jun/09
Yes, everything above 5'9.5'' for Sly, fresh out of bed, is simply not true.
Felix said on 3/Jun/09
Good to have Frank2 back! :D And I can absolutley agree that Stallone is no taller than 5'9. It's sad that Glenn is gone :(
Brad said on 3/Jun/09
Sly is a flat 5' 8.5" or 5' 9" in "effect". I'd pay to have a picture of Frank2 with Emile Hirsch. Marlo Thomas sends her greetings of welcome.
leonari said on 3/Jun/09
ROB: Maybe some posts are meant to be "jokey". But in my opinion most of these posts are not funny. Brad is harsh but he is funny. Guys like TOM or Gillipolas are not funny. Sorry. Thats the way I say it.
But you are right: I should laugh at these posts.
Editor Rob
yeah some posts are tiresome, I can delete posts to a point, sometimes then people get a hint that what they are saying isn't welcome.
although some persist at it.
leonari said on 3/Jun/09
Frank2: Welcome back man! Great you have returned. This site needs posters like yourself. Guys with real life encounters. If Glenn was at his lowest in one of his pics with Stallone (169.4 cm) Sly looks 4 to 4.5 cm taller in my opinion if he wasn't wearing lifts that day. So there is a chance he is 5'8.5 which is 174 cm.
Frank2: Would you say there is a big chance Stallone is 5'8.5?
Please reply. I appreciate it.
TELLEM said on 3/Jun/09
Ali your saying their was only 2 inches between arnold and sly???!!!
Zach said on 3/Jun/09
Frank2 - awesome to have you back! I messaged Rob on his page earlier today to ask him to invite you back, not sure if its cos of that you're back or just a big conincidence. But either way great to see you posting here again.
Ali said on 3/Jun/09
Sylvester Stallone is 173-174 cm. Which is a 5'8 or a bit more.
Glenn is 5'7 and in the evening even less. Sly was about an inch
and a half bigger.
At least Sly's only listed an inch or less more than his real
height. Arnold's peak height is listed almost 4 inches more than
his real height, which is really unacceptable.
TELLEM said on 3/Jun/09
welcome back Frank2!
Frank2 said on 3/Jun/09
"because Daniel, just like me, it was common sense. Glenn being next to 5'8 celebs, celebs who claimed 5 foot 8, Glenn was always shorter. Glenn being next to 5 foot five actors and hardly any height difference. Frank2 would peg him at 5'6.5 because Frank2 wasn't off on his estimates"
Thanks. No, I think I'm pretty accurate in judging people's height. I always felt Glenn was shorter since in some photos he wasn't that much shorter than actors I've met or seen in person who I know for a fact are shorter than what Glenn claimed.
Trust me people. Stallone is not 5'10". He's not 5'9" either. He might on a good day be closer to 5'8". He wears great lifts. But look at him during his early career in films like CAPONE where he's definitely shorter than Ben Gazzara who in his prime was about 5'10 1/2". Stallone is at least two inches shorter, perhaps even three and I can't see his footwear in the shots when they're standing close by each other to know if Sly is wearing lifts or not.
Vibram said on 3/Jun/09
James, 5ft9 is short for a leading man role in films though. From Richard Burton to Charles Bronson, these were men below 5ft9 but were made to look well over 5ft10 with stuffed footwear, camera angles, shorter co-stars and developed upper bodies.
James said on 3/Jun/09
In golf shoes Sly is not much taller than Jack Nicholson who is 5'8 nowdays plus Sly's ankle looked a little high in those golf shoes. Only Sly would try to get an extra cm or 2 on the golf course. 5'9 seems way more accurate than 5'10 or 5'11. If Sly really was 5'10 or 5'11 he would look 6'2 and 6'3 in his customs but he's never looked anything over 6'1 in them. He is not short by any means since 5'9 is average height for an American male.
bobo said on 3/Jun/09
Bam: My apologies. Did not get the subtle irony. Well done, my friend.
Leonari: calm down man. You were bashing women on other threads. Just calm down. Whats wrong with you?
bbfan2009 said on 2/Jun/09
To be fair Brad, Jenny is 5' 9 1/4" in the morning. She's tall. That's why she beats Glenn by over 2" in that pic. Glenn is only 5' 6.69" in the afternoon. The 5' 7" he managed to get, was after lying down in a car. Rob should have measured Glenn in the morning as well.
Brad said on 2/Jun/09
Look at him with Jenny. Look at him in the famous Portmans shot. Pull those suckers off and look at him by the barricade. He fooled people with boots plus I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a Stallone and tip-toe'd in a few shots. He's paranoid about his height. He's coming in at one measurment after hours in a car at near 5' 6 3/4"!. I would never have had him on this site when his business dealings stunk like bad cheese.
TELLEM said on 2/Jun/09
because Daniel, just like me, it was common sense. Glenn being next to 5'8 celebs, celebs who claimed 5 foot 8, Glenn was always shorter. Glenn being next to 5 foot five actors and hardly any height difference. Frank2 would peg him at 5'6.5 because Frank2 wasn't off on his estimates
Daniel said on 2/Jun/09
Brad, how did you know Glenn wasn't even close to his 5'8'' claim? I was fooled by him, just like many others here :)
Brad said on 2/Jun/09
People still here asking where is Glenn. Look at him with Jenny, now find him telling people off he's 5' 8". He looks a whopping 5' 6" with her. Now look at him with celebs 5' 8.5".
Anon said on 2/Jun/09
Sly looked 5'8-5'9 in movies in the 80s. The 90s he looked 5'10. Now he always looks like he's 6 or 6'1. Bizzare. Seems like there's more going on than just big shoes.
gilipollas said on 2/Jun/09
Leonari, just stop all the hate. You shout insecurity too much. Just post about the issue and things will be fine. Ive been here since 2005 btw.
derek d said on 2/Jun/09
New picture with Sly and Dolph lundgren.
Click Here
bam said on 1/Jun/09
relax, it was just a joke, I'm not a
troll bobo. I'm just mocking the average celeb encounter. I know stallone is 5'10.
derek d said on 1/Jun/09
bam's post makes no sense LOL. it should just be deleted.
leone510ss said on 1/Jun/09
tom, are u sure???
rob ,why glenn was
Banned???? when???
leone510ss said on 1/Jun/09
bam says on 1/Jun/09
i saw stallone today at a wal-mart. He was 5'7 in really thick boots. I think the verdict has been reached, he is 5'6.
really!!! do u met sly ???
bobo said on 1/Jun/09
Bam: Stop
trolling.
If the boots were really thick. Why do they give him only ONE inch. If he is 5.6, what size footwear was he wearing in the Tom Arnold, Shwarnegger, Leno pics?. Surely you are not suggesting he was wearing 5 inchers.
I saw Brad Pitt walk down my street today and he was 4.11 in really thick boots. I think the verdict has been reached: Bam is a
troll.
bam said on 1/Jun/09
i saw stallone today at a wal-mart. He was 5'7 in really thick boots. I think the verdict has been reached, he is 5'6.
TOM said on 1/Jun/09
THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 31/May/09
Was Glenn Banned? What happened this time, and how did I miss that? Can some of the regulars in here fill me in on what happened.
Yes, Glenn is
Banned, because he did not said the truth about his height and everyone who said Glenn is only 5
Lmeister said on 1/Jun/09
I've noticed from the screenshots of the Expendables that Sly wears different shoes when he is filmed alone and when he is pictured with a costar ;)
1) Sly wearing normal army boots
Click Here2) Sly with
Jason Statham wearing larger combat boots
Click Here
RisingForce said on 1/Jun/09
4" shoes? Nope, they're 3".
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 31/May/09
Was Glenn Banned? What happened this time, and how did I miss that? Can some of the regulars in here fill me in on what happened.
Mathew said on 31/May/09
I was thinking Stallone was 5'9.5" - 5'10" next to Glenn (5'8"). But since it turns out Glenn is 5'7", 5'8.5" - 5'9" for Sly.
James said on 30/May/09
Yes Sly can definetely look 6'1. But only when he wears his 4'' customs!
Doug said on 30/May/09
Saw CLiffhanger last night. Stallone was dwarfed by most of the baddies in it most of whom were well over 6'. The main villain in it of course is 6'4". That is why Stallone often looks short as he is often surrounded by tall men. Stallone looked no more than 5'9" in it and was wearing boots too. He was shorter than his 5'10" co-star. At times he can give a 5'8" impression.
bobo said on 30/May/09
Wait: Glenn is
Banned?
Ian said on 29/May/09
I wonder if Stallone is a 5ft10-10.5 waking height and this 5f9 is his minimum height. Makes more sense than a 5f7. The big shoes and lifts are to up his height to more than just average. Stallone doesn't want to be just average so he wears 3-4inch lifts to propell him to the heights of a 6ft guy would look in shoes.
Joe said on 29/May/09
greg says on 23/May/09
i have nothing against guys like glenn (who
Anonymous said on 29/May/09
i did not insult anybody, i did not insult gilipolas, he asked if someone knows his nickname and what does it mean, i said, it means big idiot in spanish, so i did not insult him...i said what his nick means in spanish. i did not insult rising, i only said his comments about stallone being 5
Mr T-Cakes said on 29/May/09
great footage, Dural.
bobo said on 29/May/09
I may with differ with Rising over Stallones actual height but he presents his case well. He was demonstrating that Stallone CAN look tall should he chose to and that pics show that he can look way above his stated height here.
Gilipoas: I understand pics are not a fail safe way to prove heights but thats all we got baby. Thats all we got.
leonari said on 29/May/09
Greg: Report me to the police. I am a criminal.
miko said on 29/May/09
Click HereThe funny thing is that you can clearly see when Hogan/Stallone staredown before the close-up of them face to face (at 2:25) - he has close to a full head on Stallone when bending down. He destroys him in height.
When they go face to face - that is not movie magic. No boxes.
That is 6"6 vs 5"9 - when you consider Hogan may have not been a full 6"6 it could get even worse for Stallone.
Even look at the last 10 seconds of the clip too, a badly slouching Hogan with bent knees and everything still dwarfing him.
Mr T-Cakes said on 29/May/09
notice in Rocky3 the ring announcer says Hulk Hogan is "nearly"7-feet. Hogan was meant to be 6ft6 in his prime, and if you say that you might as well claim a 5ft6 man is "close"to 6feet!Stallone, being writer and director of that movie, seems to have bumped up Hogan's height to make himself probably appear bigger, but Hogan looks to have almost a foot on Stallone in the part where they square-up:even Stallone, the director, has fun at the ridiculous height difference with some of those camera angles.
RisingForce said on 29/May/09
Way closer derek d? He may be a bit closer, but to me it doesn't seem like much of a factor. I agree Bam, his whole body looks shockingly big there to me.
But my whole point was that he can look 6'1" in elevators. This was directed mostly at the poster who said he couldn't look it. And I don't mean that everyone has to agree that he'd measure that in elevators, because there are always other factors in pictures. My whole point is that it's not a fact that he isn't 6'1" in some elevators and that I'm not basing my opinion that he can reach that on nothing.
bam said on 28/May/09
near letterman he looks huge.
derek d said on 28/May/09
Rising, regarding the Sly Letterman picture I just realized that Sly is way closer to the camera.
Roger said on 28/May/09
Lol, Brad, you'll ask Jack about Sly's height? Good luck. But it's funny you mention Katzenberg, he's really shockingly short. Made me remind an interview with a Hollywood agent named Wirtschafter who noted, too, how short many people in showbiz are. Spielberg, Katzenberg, Geffen - Spielberg at 5'7'' almost dwarfs them.
I have Katzenberg at 5'5''.
TELLEM said on 28/May/09
thats the only way to see it. Both tom arnold (although you still can't see his or sly's feet) and lettermen are under 6'1 barefoot in the afternoon/evening. and are 6'1/ish in shoes
TELLEM said on 28/May/09
letterman, like tom arnold don't stay 6'1.5 or 6'1 all day. If those pics were taken in the afternoon/evening then most likely both letterman and arnold would be under 6'1 barefoot, making them around 6'1 in footwear, and there postures they are in the photos. meaning sly looking shorter than both men, would mean he reaches 6'0 in his lifts.
GUK said on 28/May/09
I don't trust any sly pics where I can't see his feet. When he was on Jonathan Ross he was under 6ft with munsters on.
Jay said on 28/May/09
RisingForce makes everyone 2-3 inches taller by only commenting on pics with shoe lifted stars. If you show him a celeb looking their real height he will ignore you until enough comments have buried it or more lifted pics turn up. That's the sign of a fanatical devotee or film industry employee.
Stallone in a whole series of photos below is little taller (in thicker shoes) than
Jason Statham who is a confirmed 5ft 8 most of the time. The only time Stallone has appeared close to 6ft tall is in lifts or in the Cuban heels he wore in Rocky or Escape to Victory. Back then his peak height was 5ft 9.5. Today his best height is 5 ft 8.5
gilipollas said on 28/May/09
bob, pics are not the most reliable source to measuring someones height. Greg, Leonari has been doing that for long. He just shouts insecurity.
Soviet_Rebel said on 28/May/09
Come on guys Stallone one day is (nearly) eye to eye with 6'1" Tom Arnold, another day is the same height of 5'8" Michael Schumacher (schumacher was wearing f1 pilot shoes that give you max 1cm and Stallone was wearing lifts for sure; he sleeps with lifts!) So, with Tom Arnold he was wearing super monster frankenstin lifts for sure!
Come on open your eyes, he's between 5'7" and 5'8". Imho he's very very near to 5'7"
RisingForce said on 28/May/09
If Sly has a posture advantage or camera advantage on Tom Arnold then it's minimal because Tom's posture appears solid and Arnold was in sneakers and surely atleast 6'2" in the sneakers, maybe 6'2.25". A camera advantage isn't clear to me so I'd imagine it'd be very slight, especially since they both look in proportion. Letterman at 6'1.5" barefoot would be atleast 6'2.5", maybe 6'2.75" in dress shoes. I wouldn't expect Sly to be as tall as David because Sly would need to be 5'11.5" to reach that height in 3" elevators. And we all know that Sly is under 5'11". To me it looks like Sly would measure atleast 6'1" in footwear in both pictures, making him appear like a solid 6 ft man.
bobo said on 28/May/09
Admit it people. Rising has a point. He is eye to eye with Letterman and Arnold.
Anonymous said on 28/May/09
lol...sly looking 6
TELLEM said on 28/May/09
rising, sly is closer to the camera, than 6'1 tom arnold, and sly looks to have better posture than tom arnold
on david lettermen, you can clearly see letterman taller than sly, not looking 6'1 on any of those to me.
RisingForce said on 28/May/09
You said at 5'10" he'd look 6'1", I provide a good angle picture where he does and so you're left with nothing more than a ridiculous excuse based on nothing. He's not on his toes here with David Letterman(listed at 6'1.5")
Click Here I can continue to provide examples of Sly looking 6'1". You can have the opinion that those pictures aren't true to reality, but you can't say that he never LOOKS 6'1" in elevator.
Brad said on 28/May/09
Imagine Jack Nicholson with Tom Arnold then Sly with Jack in golf shoes.
gilipollas said on 28/May/09
rising, sly is on his tiptoes and Tom is probably on his knees LOL- Ok
RisingForce said on 28/May/09
gilipollas, you say Sly can't look 6'1"? Here he is looking eye to eye with 6'1" Tom Arnold.
Click Here
Mickey said on 27/May/09
Yeh thats cool, i just wanted to see what you thought of the other factors mentions(shoe and posture advantage mainly). All good.
leonari said on 27/May/09
Greg: Get lost buddy. nobody needs ya here!
Jay said on 27/May/09
Stallone is 5ft 9 in those photos with Statham but is wearing thicker shoes. He's about 5ft 8.5 currently that means.
gilipollas said on 27/May/09
rising, if Sly was 5-10 hed look 6-1 with those shoes he wears and he clearly doesnt. Dude, keep it simple. Sly has always been considered a short guy in hollywood where most of stars are not even tall! Van Dame is the same case BUT he doesnt wear lifts. thats the difference, LIFTS. Brad Pitt is 5-10 and with his lifts (not as big as sly's) on is consired a guy above average and can even look TALL close to very tall guys like Clint Eastwoood. Sly with hos monsters is shorter than 6 feet Arnold.
RisingForce said on 27/May/09
yeah mickey, i saw it, but if i respond to everything then my posts become long and posters complain about me writing "essays" or "flooding the page". you make some good points, but i still see an inch to an inch and a half difference. in the end i don't see any reason in arguing about that pic more. you think sly looks 5-9 compared to stone who you think is 5-8. i think sly looks 5-9.5, 5-10 compared to stone who i think is 5-8.5. in the end i'm seeing an inch, possibly an inch and a half difference between the 2. you're seeing an inch, that's not enough to continue going back and forth over IMO. half the difference is also our slight difference of opinion in stone's height.
don, i'm not claiming sly is in the 5-11 range. i'm sticking to what i've been saying. 5-10.5/5-10.75 out of bed for sly and 5-9.5 to 5-10 in the evening. but my main point about the picture is to brad who i don't think is being rational about it. you think there are other factors making sly look taller there don, that's fine and a rational opinion. brad on the otherhand sees sly looking tall there and assumes the clip is fake. that's not rational IMO.
Gago said on 27/May/09
Don, I'd like to add also that the camera was placed low in that scene, which reduces the height difference.
Mickey said on 27/May/09
Rising you didn't reply to my last post on 24/May/09, just checking if you saw it.
gilipollas said on 27/May/09
hey gilipollas2009, do u have an idea of what my nick means? sly is 5.7 as he was 5-8 at his peak.
Don said on 27/May/09
rising,
the world knows that you are sly's biggest height supporter and all and while even i will concede that there is a remote (keyword) possibility of him being a weak 5'10, let's not go completely overboard here and go to 5'11 territory now.
seems like you always go back to that infamous sandal clip with weathers from rocky III. well, as i said a few months ago, it's extremely tough to gauge sly's height from that clip due to:
1. sly's lumpy sandals
2. sly's puffed 80's hairstyle
3. weather's stance - u can't just assume that weathers is losing so and so much height from leaning. he could lose anywhere from 2-3 inches, which may not seem much but can play an important role when measuring up with sly. but as i said, it's all based an assumptions, which can't carry much weight in comparing heights.
furthermore, he's probably getting less height from his nikes than sly is from his sandals anyways. There is overwhelming evidence that show that sly can't touch 5'11 so let's keep the discussion within a more logical 5'8.5-5'10 range.
gilipollas2009 said on 26/May/09
if Stallone is supposedly 5-7 according to Goldman, then how come it's never been listed on any site?
Soviet_Rebel said on 26/May/09
OMG! I am starting to think that RisingForce is Sylvester Stallone himself!
It's the only explanation to his statements!
Come on there are irrefutable proofs that stallone is somewhere between 5'7" (170cm) and 5'8"(172.5cm). "Between" is to be generous, he's very very very near 5'7" (170cm)
RisingForce said on 26/May/09
i've never claimed that sly was 5-11 miko. i claimed he looked in the 5-10, 5-11 range on the beach with weathers.
Jay said on 26/May/09
Thanks for the photo Lmeister! Sly in fat footwear and high angle feet barely taller than Statham!
Brad said on 26/May/09
Sly wanted that scene in slippers. I tend to believe the ex was on here talking his daughter April and other stuff, it flowed too smooth and Glenn never touched it after he came back from his ban. Believe me, a lot of his life is not on this site. I could care less about the ex and life, but; his height estimate was dead on. Converse customs, "believe it" (Jim Rome soundbite).Wedged customs fer SS with JS Lmeister.
RisingForce said on 26/May/09
brad, you're smarter than that. you don't actually believe that glenn's ex father in law posted here, do you? anyone could post here claiming to be a relative of glenn's, i don't buy it for a second.
it makes no sense why they'd have sly in slippers if they wanted him to look taller next to weathers. sly simply isn't that much shorter than weathers. you can tell when they're on the beach and sly is in liftless converse type sneakers and shorts. he looks like a guy in the 5-10, 5-11 range there as well.
Lmeister said on 26/May/09
Here is a hilarious pic of Sly with
Jason Statham. Eventhough it isn't a good pic for comparing heights it is a good pic for judging Slys footwear
Click Here
Brad said on 25/May/09
Sly has custom shoes. They showed Sly head to toe to show how tall Sly is with Weathers. MGM movie magic. I wouldn't believe a word out of Glenn's mouth about "morning height". He came in from The Bronx 5 hours back. He peaked already, at 5' 7", he's a flat 5' 6.5" with Sly. Sly is in customs. His ex father in-law said Glenn was 5' 7" last summer.
Anonymous said on 25/May/09
Frank2 did say Sly is 5'7, but he also said he could have been 5'8. I think he is in the 5'7.5 to 5'8 range. wears huge height increasing shoes/boots that add 3.5 - 4 inches in height.
gilipollas said on 25/May/09
interesting pics of sly posing with arnold. Now if arnie stands 6.1 sly with his huge lifts not even reaches 5.11? guys u tell me. comments please.
Click Here
RisingForce said on 25/May/09
brad, if you say it's impossible for a 5-8.5 guy to look like sly did in slippers next to weathers then you might want to rethink your estimate. ;) movie magic? that makes no sense. if they wanted to make sly taller there then they wouldn't have shown his feet and they would have stood him on a box or put him in elevator shoes. you don't put a guy in slippers when it's not necessary when you want them to look taller.
are you suggesting that sly wore lifts in golf shoes when he had a broken foot next to james caan? once again sly was a bit taller than jenny in comparison to glenn and glenn admitted to being near his morning height in the sly photo while he was at his lowest(5-6.5, 5-6.75) with jenny.
Source said on 25/May/09
I'd say sly is about 5'9.25-5'9.75(176-177cm), seems about right. Might even be a full 5'10(178cm). There is no way he's under 5'9(175cm).
henry gale said on 25/May/09
If he was 5"9 he would not need lifts he's got to 5"8 or less.
Parker said on 25/May/09
Anonymous - Frank2 estimated Sly at 5'8 not 5'7. Frank2's stories were great, but in my opinion some of his estimates were a little off - 5'8 for Rod Stewart for instance. I've posted the ETV team photo dozens of times
Click HereLeft to Right at the back with a slight slope. 3rd from left,Mike Summerbee (5'10), Sly, John Wark 5'11.
Not under 5'9 in my opinion.
Brad said on 25/May/09
Movie magic for the slippers. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a 5' 8.5" person in slippers to look like that with a 6' 1" guy not in slippers. Caan doesn't have posture like Stallone. Those golf shoes are suspect looking at the ones he has on with Stone. I play golf, golf shoes don't have dress shoe heels like that. Look at him with Glenn who got owned HUGE by Jennie who is the same height as Stallone. Tellum tellum!
Mickey said on 24/May/09
Rising i do not see more then 1.25 inches in eye line difference between them. Even if there is have you taken into account:
Sly's military posture with effect(chest bursting out)
Stone's casual posture(even if she is 5'8.5, she isn't standing close to it)
Sly's slight camera advantage
Sly's obvious shoe advantage that was shown by Zach. I know he isn't in lifts but there could be a good .75inch advantage in shoe there.
People boost up their heights differently. People add 1/2 inch to their height, some add a whole inch, some even 2 inches, some even 1.75 inches ;) But im not going to try change your mind on Stone's height.
TELLEM said on 24/May/09
hes wearing bigger shoes than stone and looks 1.5 taller than her in his "effect" and her in relaxed posture. hes 5'8
RisingForce said on 24/May/09
how about the full body shots where sly has a solid inch on caan? and that's with a broken foot and golf shoes so no lifts. you have no answer for that or the slippers picture. one picture obviously doesn't prove anything, but he does look over 5-10 there. that's why you're claiming it's fake. i don't claim the pictures where he looks shorter are fake.
Anonymous said on 24/May/09
Any claims over 5-8 are pretty ridiculous. Frank 2 and Mamum saw Sly at 5-7. Thats good enough for me.
Brad said on 24/May/09
At 5' 8.5" in golf shoes he's struggling with Hopper,Jack,Caan to look look tall against these guys. Geez, he's got custom golf shoes. Great photo Zach. He looks short with Stone even in those, I'd hate to be seen in a shower with her with no shoes. That slippers shot with Carl is a farce. Look at him with Dennis Hopper in golf shoes.
chris175 said on 24/May/09
any claims below 5-9 are stupid, stallone was probably 177 in his earlier years 175ish now
Christian said on 24/May/09
It seems that Sly and Stone are about the same height, Sly about 0.5-1 inch taller, making him 5'9''.
Zach said on 24/May/09
I don't agree that theres no disparity between their footwear on the golfcourse.
Stallone:
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Brad said on 24/May/09
Yes Mickey, that's Sly in full "effect" on the golf course. If he were 5' 10.75" as a former poster here was screaming for years he'd own Sharon huge in this shot.
Mickey said on 24/May/09
Well Rising, Stone used to be a model, and we all know they like to fudge up their heights.
Also in my pics they look very very close in height. Sly has his head tilted up so i based his height on the middle part of the top of his head, to which it looked even with Stone's. If Sly was to straighten up he would look an inch taller, in my opinion.
Also
Click HereGolf shoes, no massive lifts or heels. Sly standing slightly closer to the camera AND standing military with effect(look at his chest) while Stone is standing casually, and yet Sly is only about an inch taller.
Brad said on 23/May/09
Rising has a reason for every 5' 8.5" shot. He looks like that next to The Fonz both in boots,that's one short Stallone.
RisingForce said on 23/May/09
zach, look at everyone else in the lords of flatbush pic, they're all wearing boots, what's sly supposed to wear? heels were in fashion in the 70's and early 80's. look at what travolta wore and he was nothing less than 6 feet. i even remember 6-4 clint eastwood wearing heels in a 70's movie(i think the gauntlet). just look on the street in movies from that time and see what a lot of men are wearing. and i've seen victory, that scene is from the beginning of the movie, at other times sly wears flat sneakers. i don't think he's the only guy in the movie to play in boots at one time or another either. i could be wrong, but i remember others playing in boots at times and i know sly wore sneakers at other times in the movie. as far as the boxing shoe's, his ankle seems to be protruding a bit in the rocky blboa pic, but look at the pics i posted from rocky 3 and rocky 4. there's nothing weird about his footwear in those pictures.
as far as stone well i can't see her less than her 5-8.5 claim. i just don't see why a 5-8 woman would lie by half an inch. sure, some women lie about their height, but why would a tall woman feel the need to give herself half an inch? it seems kind of pointless to me. even accounting for her heels she sure looks like she'd be 5-8.5 here.
Click Here that's possible about her tip toeing mickey, but i wasn't assuming that. it seems to me that he's losing height by leaning back in your picture. that's why i suspect he's only an inch taller there, i don't see any real reason to suspect tip toeing for sharon. military posture zach? he seems to be leaning against her and he looks shorter than her. now i know you don't believe sly is under 5-8 so why would he look it there with "military posture"? it's obviously possible that sharon was bending her knees in the picture i posted. but it looks like both of them are standing more normal than the other 2 pictures.
bam said on 23/May/09
sly straightened is 1.5-2 inches taller to me. 5'8.5+1.5= 5'10 as one combination.
The other is 5'8 flat for stone + 2'=5'10 for sly
Or sly at possibly 5'9.5. This pic perfectly to me sums up sly's possible heights.
Sorry guys but sly really doesn't look 5'8.5 near a 5'8-5'8.5 woman barefoot, more 5'10.
Mr T-Cakes said on 23/May/09
In Zach's picture Stone looks a little taller than Stallone, even!And in Mickey's they're the same size. So are we talking 5ft7.5, or a round 5ft8 for Stallone barefoot?
Zach said on 23/May/09
And another angle when they're not getting busy plus with Sly in military posture
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Mickey said on 23/May/09
Click HereThere are times when Stone looks just a bit below Sly's height too Rising. There are times where she looks taller(probably tip toeing). But there are times when she does look pretty close to Sly's height. I believe Stone to be about 5'8", she is listed as this also. Anything higher would be her morning height(my opinion).
Sly does look about 2 inches taller then her in Rising's pic, but could Sharon be bending her knees and Sly have better posture? Who knows. My pics show them being of close height, maybe Stone is tip toeing. But ultimately i see Sly at 5'9" (not only due to these pics though).
Mr T-Cakes said on 23/May/09
Zach has a good point about those heels Sly was wearing to play soccer in Victory: most soccer players would break their necks in those. What about The Prisoner of Second Avenue? Sly is a mugger in that, and Jack Lemmon(5ft9, so it says here) catches hold of him and kind of roughs him up. Again, so long since I saw it so I could be wrong, but Lemmon seemed bigger. This was before Sly was well known, too. So chances are he wouldn't have his shoes built up.
Brad said on 23/May/09
Didn't I see those yellow ones as a house in a Laurel & Hardy film? Those are sick. They had 3.5's jammed in those monsters. I bet those ropes were not regulation so Sly could appear taller. I beg to differ, I saw italian kids in Bay Ridge Brooklyn wear things like that playing soccer but I think they were Sicilian Zips just in from the old country. Sly got Cained so he wore them. He tried against Telly, but the Greek told him "Who loves ya baby?" and pinched his cheek wearing monsters as only Telly could wear.
Midget said on 23/May/09
Good pics 'portland". Both sets of shoes shown in the pics could easily allow for a 3" lift, especially the boots in the 2nd pic. The heel alone looks to be 4-5cm alone plus an internal wedge of same or similar size boost.5'8.5" on the nose.
Zach said on 22/May/09
RisingForce says on 20/May/09
i really don't think height was a big deal for sly until 1985 when he met brigitte nielsen.
Escape to Victory (1981):
Click Here Take it from a Brit where football (aka soccer) is life here, heels have never been in fashion in football. Infact its sheer insanity to wear those and attempt to play football.
Its a feeble argument altogether that Sly only wore heels cos it was fashion back then, the fact that he continued to in the 90s and still wears elevators to this day is testament to that.
And some of these ankle breaking footwear boots were never fashion, only for a paranoid 5'8-9 Sly:
Lords of the Flatbrush (1974):
Click Here Staying Alive (1983):
Click Here Rocky 3 (1982):
Click HereDoes he really shove lifts into boxing shoes?
Click Here His ankle is really protruding out there. To me there definitely appears to be lifts stuffed in there. I've also got another pic where Sly is boxing in his elevator 'munster' trainers in the Contender, I'll dig it up sometime.
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
when both were standing normally stallone had about 2 inches on stone.
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Don said on 22/May/09
Stone is listed as 5'8 here, which seems pretty accurate.
The shower scene that you speak of is not particularly good for comparison purposes because we can't see their feet and there may be some camera tricks involved.
Mr T-Cakes said on 22/May/09
In The Specialist I'm sure there was a scene where Stallone and Sharon Stone were standing barefoot in the shower together, and from what I recall(I've not seen it for so long),they were about the same height. Although Stone appeared taller for she was obviously slimmer. Don't know her height, but maybe Stallone's could be more accurately estimated from that.
Brad said on 22/May/09
Wow, you could put Paula Abdul up to her waist in those boots! 3" easy fit. Frank2 at 5' 7" was wrong but he was making the point he's not even close to Glenn's farce of 5' 10.75". Uh Bo-Bo, the "film-maker" was Stallone and when Sly wants to look like a heavyweight instead of this 5' 8.5" against big guys, he brings out the customs. This isn't Marciano, it is the silver screen.
Don said on 22/May/09
those rocky III boxing boots look funny for sure..
they are definitely not flat footed as one may have thought; not really a surprise as sly was at the peak of his height obsession during the early 80s.
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
i guess if sly is walking it wouldn't matter if statham is standing still because sly could be above his measured height while lifting his foot if he was walking. on a second look it does look like his front leg could be in mid-stride. because i'm not sure, it's fair to disregard that pic.
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
well mickey, statham certainly looks to be standing still to me. hard to tell with sly. if it's mid stride then my bad and yes it should be disregarded, but it is hard to tell.
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
portland, how can you claim that you can see inside of sly's shoes? that was ridiculous. there's no way those boxing shoes add 3 inches, you can highlight it randomly all you want. and he wore boots in first blood....what's your point? wearing boots makes you 5-8? 6-1 richard crenna wore boots in that film as well and 6-3 brian dennehy wore boots with 2 inch heels in first blood.
brad, how can you pretend that you agree with frank2's height estimate for sly? frank2's estimate was 5-7 and you have even said that sly is no shorter than 5-8.5. that's an inch and a half difference. your estimate for sly's height is as close to 5-10 as it is to frank2's 5-7 estimate.
Mickey said on 22/May/09
Rising that new Statham/Sly pic is in mid stride, which you are against. People have shown mid stride pics before and you dismiss them. I have thought about posting mid stride pics but decide agaisnt. So i think you should too.
bobo said on 22/May/09
those boots are not three inch lifts. Thats just silly. The pics of RDJ posted by Rising Force are three inch lifts. The Rocky character is billed as 5.11, one suspects the film makers would NOT need to have Stallone hit that height to pass as 5.11 on screen, so even if he was 5.8 then he wouldn't need 3 inch lifts on the Rocky set.
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
another statham and stallone picture.
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Midget said on 21/May/09
Just as a point of reference, the was some pics of Sly preiously posted showing Sly's military style, semi casual dress boots and they look very, very similar to a set of elevators for sale on a well know U.S. custom shoe making site that give almost 5" in height increase. I still cant see Sly-Dog being over 5'8.5" barefoot and the clip of him barefoot with Liotta really backs my belief up.
Cameron said on 21/May/09
LOL at 5-10 or 5-9. Sly has always been short and around 5-7. 5-8 estimates arnt bad but they are still wrong. The few who say 5-10 must be Sly's PR people on here.
Jay said on 21/May/09
Sly got very image conscious around the time he made First Blood and Rocky III. He admitted that he became narcissistic about his whole image until the late 90s. He started weighing everything he ate, counting all his protein intake, etc and then wearing lifts would have been part of that because of his relationship to Bridgette Nielsen.
Brad said on 21/May/09
Boxing boots can easily be fitted with massive wedge. I've saw ski boots in the 70's with foam injection. Look at those things he was wearing with Ali at that awards ceremony in '77. The heel alone was huge. Burt Reynolds wore custom sneakers in the 70's in his films. He had a pair in "Hooper" that were comical.
RisingForce said on 21/May/09
of course it's possible tellem. but i see no reason to assume that, especially if he had to do boxing scenes, that'd make it much more difficult. i really don't think he was that height conscious in 1976. it was really the mid 80's when it seemed to me that he was trying to get every inch possible with the stallone effect posture. don't forget that even his shoemaker said he asked him to make elevator shoes for him when he met brigitte nielsen. plus sly doesn't seem too tricky as far as lifts, he has no problem wearing massive, obvious 3 inch elevators when he wants more height.
TELLEM said on 21/May/09
those boxing shoes could be stuffed with lifts inside. lets not forget, someone here, not too long ago, posted pics of sticking extra lift inside a CONVERSE shoe and STILL looked normal. sly could have lifts inside those boxing shoes.
Big King said on 21/May/09
So it's clear enough that Sly stood 5'10.75" in the morning, 5'10.5" during midday and 5'10" in the evening. He has 2 inches on Glenn in one of his photo and Glenn's 5'7" at his very lowest, so I think that Sly could deserve 5'9.5"-5'10".
Dylan said on 21/May/09
I always believed his true height to be between 5'8" and 5'8.5", although there are times when he can look considerably taller in the odd shots where he has no footwear, he can look quite short. I have read alot of articles stating that he is 5'7" although I think that is taking it to the extremes.
RisingForce said on 21/May/09
no need to call anyone's opinion stupid, Anonymous. hell, 5-9.5 is only half an inch different than what he's listed here and rob seemed like he gave serious thought to upgrading him to that. but yet you say even 5-9.5 is so stupid. i agree that sly is one of the few men who didn't lose height even at age 62.
Brad said on 21/May/09
Huge custom wedge'd boots. The 5' 10.75" is a joke like Willis at 6' 1", Depp at 5' 10", etc.. No Bobo, he was 5' 8.5" in '77.
bobo said on 21/May/09
alright calm down. But you can't say Rising doesn't present a compelling argument with those early Rocky Pics.
And we can all agree that Stallone must have lost an inch (or thereabouts) in the 30 years since the film.
Don said on 21/May/09
bobo
sly never shrank...he grew if anything
Anonymous said on 21/May/09
bobo, you are talking strange things.... stallone was never 5
gilipollas said on 21/May/09
bobo, if he was ever 5-10 nobody would have ever refered sly as a short guy. 5-8 max. someone 5-10 with those huge cuban heels would reach the 6 foot mark easily and that was not the case. Sly was average height with huge heels and now with huge monster shoes. brad pitt is 5-10 and with lifts hes a tall guy. Sly has never been tall, not even with his special shoes.
bobo said on 21/May/09
Rising those are good pics.
Maybe we can all agree that Sly was 5.10 in 1977 and 5.9 now? Seems reasonable
gilipollas said on 21/May/09
risingforce, i guess he was not wearing converse in that pic with eddie. thats what i was saying.
RisingForce said on 21/May/09
yeah, sly did look 5-11 or close to it in the ring, brad. it's funny that you're claiming he had lifts in these.
Click Here Click Here sly's heels in that '77 picture are 2.5 inches at the most. these are 3.5 inch heels.
Click Here Click Here don, i meant compared to 6-1 minimum carl weathers he looked atleast 5-10 in the ring. antonio, i already answered that. if sly was in 3 inch shoes and eddie was in 1 inch shoes then that'd put them at the same height as sly was 2 inches taller in the picture. yeah gilipollas, but he also wore converse in all of the training scenes.
Brad said on 20/May/09
Yes he looked 5' 10" in the ring, actually more with wedge'd up custom boxing shoes. Sly wore monster heels the 70's.The ones at the Academy Awards around '77 are packing 3.5". He's wearing monsters with Eddie. He needs those NYC sandals.
Antonio said on 20/May/09
RF - What if he is wearing 3+" footwear in the Murphy pic?
Don said on 20/May/09
lol
miko, those are easily the ugliest shoes i have ever seen in my life. they can't even be considered as "shoes" more like miniature boats. put those on with his usual rolled up jeans and that would truly be a fashion disaster.
rising,
i don't think sly looked "at least" 5-10 in the ring. he looked pretty stumpy if anything and was an inch shorter than mr. t who probably wasn't even a full 5'11.
derek d said on 20/May/09
I personally think the "Max Height" of 5'10.75 that he has quoted is what he believes his "fake" barefoot height would be with his custom shoes.... Meaning, lets say he reaches to 5'11.5 - 5'11.75 max with his munsters (which is what it usually looks like), subtract 1 inch or so off of what he wants people to assume are "normal" shoes that only give around 1 inch when in reality gives more like 3 inches or more.
Zach said on 20/May/09
RealAnonymous - that's a nice idea, but I don't think Stallone would ever agree to being measured barefeet because:
a - They'd need a step ladder for him to get down from his elevator footwear (I can just imagine him stopping halfway down and waving at the audience).
b - There would be a widespread outbreak of violence amongst 5'8-9ers worldwide who now realise they're just as tall as John Rambo himself.
c - It would mean 3 decades of constantly wearing the most outrageous elevator footwear, maintaining broom up backside posture, obtaining optimal picture positions etc all to convince the world he is the 5'10 he claims end up being futile.
But hey other than that I can't see why he wouldn't oblige ;)
gilipollas said on 20/May/09
risingforce, even in rocky 1st part he was wearing high cuban boots and im pretty sure he wore those all the time. watch the movie and see what i mean.
TELLEM said on 20/May/09
eddie murphy is taller than sugar ray leonard, sly IS NOT. that pic with sly and murphy proves who's sporting the lifts, and it isn't eddie murphy.
GUK said on 20/May/09
I serious think his Max quoted height is his "with Munsters" height
RisingForce said on 20/May/09
bobo, how do you know those shoes don't make him 6-1? there's no picture of him in those next to a known celebrity. those are the biggest shoes i've seen sly wear with the exception of judge dredd.
RisingForce said on 20/May/09
i'm not talking about the last rocky movie real anonymous, i'm talking about the original in 1976. in the first 4 rocky movies sly's boxing shoes looked as flat as the ones his opponents wore. brad's idea that sly wore lifts in the ring in the first rocky is just an excuse that's based on nothing. he knows sly looked atleast 5-10 in the ring so he had to make an excuse. sly didn't even seem that height concious in the first rocky movie. he even slouched at times in the movie and he wore flat converse a lot as well. i really don't think height was a big deal for sly until 1985 when he met brigitte nielsen. even his shoemaker said that's when sly asked him to make elevator shoes for him. also, in 1985 sly was at his peak as far as fame and he started getting called short in magazines and newspapers. that's also around the time when you started seeing the stallone effect, particularly in pictures with brigitte.
stallone is not shorter than eddie murphy either. sly isn't even standing that straight and he looks 2 inches taller.
Click Here even if sly had a 2 inch footwear advantage that'd mean that at worst they're the same height.
Brad said on 20/May/09
Correct Tellum. Stern couldn't get Fred Durst's hat off, I doubt he'll get Stallone on a measuring device.
TELLEM said on 20/May/09
sly is in the 5'8 range. hes shorter than eddie murphy, whos taller than sugar ray leonard.
Another thing i'd like to mention, SLY will NEVER do a height measurement at howard stern, because he isn't the 5'10 height hes claimed.
gilipollas said on 20/May/09
miko, so according to that Sly is close to 6-2 with shoes on! i mean if glenn said he was 5-10 and a half...now seriously, Sly is 5-10 with those shoes on!
bobo said on 20/May/09
thos shoes should make him 6 foot one. They don't. Stallone is 5.9
miko said on 20/May/09
I found a picture of what Stallone had on his feet from the 2008 UK Rambo opening. He gets a nice 3"+ boost here.
Click HereHere is the article in you need proof it was him.
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Brad said on 20/May/09
Of course Real A, they are custom! They are built up, huge wedge inside. The 1976 model was the better looking one. Yes Bobo, I must be wrong. File under Emile Hirsch.
bobo said on 20/May/09
Brad. Stop being stupid. You disagree with Rising. You simply MUST be wrong.
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 19/May/09
Thanks Don and Metric regarding the Howard Stern petition..
Rising, in the last Rocky Balboa movie, Sly had those boxing boots built up to the max. They do not even look like boxing boots, they look more like hiking boots.
Jay said on 19/May/09
Before I say anything on this page Sly is filming scenes with
Jason Statham right now. Jason is 5'8. Any pix of em together yet?
Brad said on 19/May/09
He had custom boxing shoes, he's fighting someone 6' 1" on a silver screen. The training video is hilarious. He leaps throwing punches. The last time I saw that was when Frank Gorshin as The Riddler fought Batman.
RisingForce said on 19/May/09
that's hilarious brad, suggesting he had lifts in flat boxing shoes that were about half an inch thick. there was nothing suspicious about sly's boxing shoes. you're just saying that because he looked atleast 5-10 in them.
calvinator said on 18/May/09
He and Pitt compare heels at dinner! 5'8.5 to 5'9 is about right.
Brad said on 18/May/09
Stallone & Cruise have wedges built in their custom shoes. He had them in his Rocky boots as he was falling forward with every punch and leaping in the air in regular boots in the rehearsal footage trying to get his 5' 8.5" punch to Carl's 6' 1". Obviously you've never seen NYC italian men, that's the style, check out The Lords Of Flatbush....they still wear that outfit in '09. There is no middle ground for italian men, it is Versace or Boochagaloop.
Don said on 18/May/09
sly's dress style really needs some work...rolled up jeans with huge boots. the guy is worth millions but obviously he can't hire a good tailor.
Austrian said on 18/May/09
"The Stallone Effect (TM)"
nice one
Don said on 18/May/09
real anonymous:
great idea but i bet you sly will manipulate the height measuring thing anyway possible so that he could come out to be 5'10+. it's a win win situation for him. he comes out taller than people think and he helps the autism society.
Steve198 said on 18/May/09
Stallone and Cruise are well known for wear large platform shoes. I'm surprised,he looked almost as tall as Letterman in TLS.
Metric said on 18/May/09
Real Anonymous: Best idea EVER!!!!
Brad said on 18/May/09
I'd like to talk to mama Stallone. Old school New York italian mothers don't hide much.
derek d said on 17/May/09
Why doesn't someone just message Frank Stallone on his myspace page and politely ask him for Sly's real height, of course he knows.
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 17/May/09
Cmon guy lets get a petition to Howard Stern through Celebrity Heights to have Sly measured on his show. For every quarter inch Sly is over 5'8 the show could give $25000.00 to Autism or another charity that Sly chooses.
Glenn, do you think Howard Stern would go for something like this?
What do you guys think? Lets put this whole mystery to bed and hopefully get some money to the Autism society.
Brad said on 17/May/09
Caan hasn't been 5'9" in a few decades. And was his foot in a cast? Stallone has never measured 5' 9" in his life. Durst looks like a total doofus without his hat. I think Stern brought this up and said he probably wears them in the shower.
RisingForce said on 17/May/09
brad ignores my full body shot of caan looking an inch shorter than sly with a broken foot and golf shoes...no surprise there.
glenn said on 17/May/09
thank you leonari.took the words out of my mouth,that i try to avoid nowadays.i had my share of that.now i watch myself.luckily,i dont feel like exploding like i use too.
Brad said on 17/May/09
Yeti. Yetis' was in the possessive. Sounded like a Klingon cousin. Sly in his usual monster customs, like Jason would wear those Vin boots. Just look at Sly with Sugar Ray, it is in the top 5 with golf shots with Caan/Hopper/Jack where he couldn't wear his whoppers. I want to see Fred Durst go on Stern and take off his cap.
Antonio said on 17/May/09
Here are some pics of Sly & Stathum. I haven't seen these on the site yet. If they are old news ... forgive me. If not, here are 20 more pics of the 2 of them arriving at the Pac-man fight in LV. You'll have to click thru all 20.
Click HereIn my opinion, Sly holds a slight edge of perhaps 1-1.5". That is with the shoes they are wearing. When you look at the shoes however, it is obvious that Sly is heightening. There is no doubt about it. Look at the Steep incline at the lace area of his shoes. Statham appears to have normal dress shoes on ... and darn nice ones at that!
I believe Sylvester's footware has a 2" advantage over Statham. So with shoes on Sly is 5-11 and Statham is 5-10. Barefoot ... If Jason is 5-9 then Sly is 5-8 to 5-8.5.
For me the "Sly Mystery" or enigma is over. Especially when I look at the Sly-Leonard pics. Knowing the height of Sugar Ray makes it a lot easier, but those darn "cheater shoes" Rocky wears will always cause doubt in the minds of many .... Not mine, though!
RisingForce said on 17/May/09
bobo, i've already stated my belief that stallone is taller than statham and glenn and bam share that belief. i provided evidence that backed this up, i'm not claiming i posted irrefutable evidence, but there's defintley pictures that back up my belief that stallone is taller, and i'm not alone with that belief. so stop acting like stallone being 5-10+ means statham must be as well. i'm fine with people believing they're the same, but don't act like everyone else has to share that belief.
THE REAL ANONYMOUS said on 16/May/09
This whole morning and evening height thing should really be put to rest already. If your short, average or tall or in the morning, you are going to be short, average or tall in the evening as well.
We need Howard Stern to log onto this site, and check out the Stallone section. Why don't we all band toghether and send emails to Howard Stern to have Sly measured on his show. cmon boys lets put this one to rest.
Antonio said on 16/May/09
Zack, I bet they are talking to each other. By the way, Sly has Cruise by a step or 2!
gilipollas said on 16/May/09
It's a fact u can be 1-2 cm taller after a long night in bed but whos gonna notice that difference? unless ur a robot that walk up straight.
bobo said on 16/May/09
Rising: If Sly and Arnie are the same height does that mean
Jason Statham is over 6 foot tall? Why do I never see you on his thread arguing for his inflation? Oh thats right, because it doesn't make sense. SLy Wears Lifts. Geddit? You don't think he knew he would be photographed with his 80s action rival? YOu don't think he wanted to appear tall?
bobo said on 16/May/09
MikeW:
I agree. The whole 'out of bed routine' is a little tiresome. You have people posting morning, afternoon and evening heights. Its nuts. Why is morning height someone's 'true' height, why not lunchtime height? Surely, by definition, morning height is a distortion of their 'true' height because they haven't been on their feet very long. And what if a guy works night shifts? Is his morning height his 'true' height? And is that Eastern Standard Morning Time or Greenwish mean time morning height. Is Stallone smaller than Statham who is without question 5.9 because it is early evening, and would he grow 2 inches by the following morning? What if he flies to New York and wakes up at 10 pm would that be his morning height or his evening height? What happens if he wakes up at 10pm but lifts some heavy bags, how much will he shrink?
Zach said on 16/May/09
The picture we've all been waiting for, Tom Cruise and Stallone together
Click Here Hmm.
Brad said on 16/May/09
What's a yetis? Good picture Antonio.
glenn said on 16/May/09
love these nobodies that post crap never meeting me nor a celebrity.thats really funnnnny stufff.and never contributed to the site or know anything about height.and see the situations on the site calming down a bit but want to act up out of nowhere for lack of having anything else to do in life.20 years meeting the same celebs dozens of times and i still get crapped on.and they are at home arguing about me? wow.thats lame.im not a celeb.argue about a celeb.most of these names,some have the nerve of posting under anonymous,i never saw before.at least the old timers had a right to post their veiws against me.
RisingForce said on 16/May/09
miko, i posted about a dozen pictures from that same day where sly looked close to arnold's height, including full body shots. i won't post them all because that would take too long. here are some significant shots.
full body shot shows a less than an inch difference if you take away arnie's hair.
Click Herenot a big difference here.
Click Here Click Hereno stallone effect here and he's not much shorter.
Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here mike, i always stated that i considered morning height someone's true height.
Mikew said on 16/May/09
Gotta love the "straight out of bed" disclaimers now being offered by Rising and other Glenn apologists. Funny stuff.
Antonio said on 15/May/09
Here are a few more Sly/Sugar Ray pics in case one was not enough!
Click HereClick HereClick HereIn the 1st one Ray is obviously hunched, and Stallone is leaning but stretching as tall as he can. The 2nd pic has Sly closer to the camera. The 3rd is the same old story. I think all 3 (in total 4) Stallone/Leonard pics tell the same story. My certainty regarding Sugar Ray's height, convinces me that Sly is as I have been told by 2 friends that have met him around 1980, before his lift days, that he was between 5-8 and 5-9. Since he is 62 yrs. old now and not 32, it is also more than likely he has lost some height. On average one loses roughly 1mm every 10 yrs. past the age of 40.
I stand by my height estimation. Sly is most likely close to 5-8 today, give or take .5"
I have already told you, I'm as sure as anyone can be w/o measuring ... that Leonard is 5-8.5. Maybe 5-9 in the AM, but everyone is taller in the AM. If I am not mistaken, wake-up height doesn't count.
glenn said on 15/May/09
i saw that caan pic before.and i never saw caan in person.caan i hear 5-8 to 5-11 for.he is obviously in the 5-9 area.not sure if its morning or night.maybe he was 5-10 in his prime though.stallone still looks 5-10 to me there.as he did in the statham pics.
miko said on 15/May/09
A 5"10.75 Stallone would be 5"11 in "effect", that is ridiculous, insane, crazy.
At 5"10.75 he'd be 6"2 in his 3"+ munsters here - does that make 6"0 Arnold - close to 6"4 in shoes? Arnold must be in 4" lifts eh.
This photo shows:
Stallone 5"9 + 3" lifts = 6"0
Arnold 6"0 + 1.75" shoes = 6"1.75
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RisingForce said on 15/May/09
fair enough mickey, i still don't see it there. but you could show the same picture to 5 different people and they could all see it differently than the other. i just personally can't see caan being less than an inch shorter there. not that an inch is a big difference though. i believe the 2 of them are close in height because caan can look as tall as sly in some pictures, but imo that's the best one yet for comparing them. what's interesting is caan's legs look longer which does back up what i've been saying about sly having a long torso and short legs which i believe can make him give a shorter impression at times. my belief is that caan these days is 5-9.5 and stallone is 5-10.75. i think that's a minimal enough difference to explain stallone looking caan's height in some pictures. once again, all of my estimates are what i think celebrities measure straight out of bed.
glenn, i'm wondering what's your opinion on this new picture with james caan.
Mickey said on 15/May/09
Even if he is leaning, it doesn't mean he is not standing straight really. The lean is nothing drastic either. Look at James's shoulders in comparision to where they are on Sly's, they are actually higher. Im not talking about the right shoulder where he was it wrapped around Sly but the left loose shoulder.
Im not saying he has lifts in his cast or anything. But i clearly see Sly standing straighter.
RisingForce said on 15/May/09
i don't see impeccable posture there mickey. he's actually leaning to his right(the left in the picture). whether sly is in lifts with leonard is another thing, i'm just pointing out that one picture where it looks like leonard could straighten up to sly's height doesn't just end this debate as miko said. i don't know leonard's height myself, if it's 5-9 or 5-10.
Anonymous said on 15/May/09
You could be right, Glenn. I never measured myself in the AM, so might have been 5-9 also, although we would/should both claim 5-8.5 by afternoon. This was all on a morning show, too.
Mickey said on 15/May/09
Sorry i meant Leonard would be in 1 inch shoes and Sly in his usual 3 inch lifts, giving Sly the 2 inch advantage we see in that pic, making Sly 5'9".
Mickey said on 15/May/09
Um Rising in your picture with Sly and Leonard it actually points more to Sly being 5'9" as Sly could(i say he is 95%) be in his usual 3 inch lifts and Leonard in probably 1 inch lifts. So minus 2 inches from 5'11" and we have Sly at 5'9". My opinion.
Also that one picture with Caan, could Sly be that one inch taller than James Caan due to his impecable posture there? I think so. I did have a picture taken seconds before or after that pic of yours with Sly standing closer to the camera and Caan was taller. Just a thought.
glenn said on 15/May/09
antonio-i understand and appreciate your words.but i dont judge from my height.i judge from what i see.suger might be 5-9 morning tops.shrunk when you saw him.that simple.thanks for understanding too.
bobo said on 15/May/09
Rising. For the last time. The pics with Statham are conclusive. He is in elevators and still only the same height as Statham from multiple angles and locations. Those pics together are about as conclusive as you are ever going to get.
Rising: Why dont you argue for Statham being 5.10?
RisingForce said on 14/May/09
no miko, you can't look at one pic and say it kills any 5-10 claims. i could easily say this pic with james caan kills any claims of him being under 5-10
Click Here full body shot, golf shoes, broken foot and atleast an inch taller than a man who is atleast 5-9. that's a pretty ideal picture for height comparisons and it points to him being atleast 5-10, but it in no way kills any 5-9 claims.
but no matter how good one picture is, no one picture ends a debate, especially on a man whose height is this enigmatic. besides who knows how tall leonard is? i believe he was always billed at 5-10, could be 5-9 though, i don't know. all i know is his height is not set in stone at 5-9. there are also pictures where sly looks as though he could be as much as 2 inches taller. like here.
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Brad said on 14/May/09
He needs those NYC sandals.
Antonio said on 14/May/09
RF - Smokin Joe was listed at 5-11 & 5-11.5, but wasn't. I remember one of Rob's posts, say that Joe was just barely taller than him, as they stood next to each other.
Editor Rob
I thought he appeared maybe 5ft 9, he was wearing a hat, but maybe his posture was worse than it looked.
TELLEM said on 14/May/09
that sugar ray leonard pic is great. a 5'8 ish sly.
miko said on 14/May/09
The Leonard picture kills any 5"10 claims.
Leonard stands straight and he's the same height as Stallone.
He's struggling with 5"9 if he's in his munsters.
Antonio said on 14/May/09
Please take no offense, Glenn. You have been estimating heights, from the perspective of you, yourself being 5-8. You are not 5-8. You are 5-7 or 5-7.5.
When I met Leonard, I was 5-8.5 and he was the same
I like you, Glenn. I am not trying to disrespect you here. Please understand.
Zach said on 14/May/09
Antonio/Miko I am 100% certain Stallone was wearing his black munster trainers in that shot with Sugar Ray Leonard, I remember seeing full shots around the time of the Contender.
Brad said on 14/May/09
Sugar Ray has never been over 5' 9" in his life. Sly standing by Leonard is a great picture to judge. We know what Sly probably has on compared to SRL.
bobo said on 14/May/09
Rising: When Pitt claims 5.11 (when?) do you honestly think he is claiming barefoot height? HOnestly? If your statement is true and PItt actually said that, then its a sure thing he is 5.10 otherwise he would be a rarity among the smaller A -listers in actually admitting his barefoot height. Not likely is it mate? And I don't think he could easily pass for 6 foot at all. Far from it. Hs constant attempts to jack himself up suggest he is way under.
He is more in line with
Matt Damon.
Regarding Sly:
SLy is smaller than
Jason Statham. He is wearing jacked up boots and is still only the height of Statham in normal shoes. END OF. Those pics prove it.At least you have recovered your sanity from arging 5.11. if you think 5.10 please go on Stathams page and argue for a 511 Statham if you think SLy is 5.10
RisingForce said on 14/May/09
frazier was 5-11? that makes the scene in rocky even more confusing because i remember frazier having big heels and being similar to sly in flat boxing shoes.
regarding sly's height claim, i don't agree that if he were 5-10+, he'd surely claim 6 ft because of his elevators. even some known lift wearers are surprisingly honest, you never know what goes on in someones head. we all agree that sly could at the very least pass for a legit 5-11 with footwear, but he never claimed it, so i don't think some of these guys care about the actual figure. i think they care about looking tall. burt reynolds could easily pass for being over 6 ft, but he admitted to being under 6 ft back in the 70's. brad pitt can also easily pass for 6 ft, but i believe he claims to be 5-11. both are height concious guys as well. i don't believe sly even wore lifts back in 1978 when he claimed 5-10.75. he didn't seem that height concious, he even wore converse throughout a lot of rocky and slouched in the movie at times.
miko said on 14/May/09
A slouching 5"9 Sugar-Ray almost the same height as a Stallone. He stands up straight and he's the same height.
That is no 5"10.75 guy. He isn't that tall and never will be.
Zach said on 14/May/09
Matthaus was always quoted as 5'8 by British commentators. Really stood out partly cos the rest of the German team was usually in the 6'2 range, and partly cos he was the best player in the World in the early 90s. Klinsman yes I remember him being quoted 5'11. I'm actually really shocked to see Matthaus and Klinsman in the same picture at a social setting given their infamous public feuding during USA 94. Either way Sly seems no taller than Matthaus in comparison, although from the pictures I'm not sure the ground would be even in some of them.
glenn said on 14/May/09
joe frazier is 5-11. 5-9.5 with bad posture.sugar ray is 5-9 bare minimum.i agree 5-10 is too high for sugar ray .
Lmeister said on 14/May/09
Pics of Sly with Michael Schumacher make him look short. Maybe he forgot his lifts with Schumi? Also in the vacation pics you can tell that Sly is really close in height with Lothar Matth
derek d said on 14/May/09
GUK says on 13/May/09
One thing to consider, if Sly were his claimed height barefoot that would make him over 6ft, probably 6ft 1 in his munsters. Why would he not claim at least 6ft?
5ft 10.5 is the best he claims,which tells me it could be his "munstered" height and he's 5ft 8 barefoot. Personally I think he's around 5ft 9 barefoot and knows people would find 6ft hard to swallow.
I agree 100 %. Great post.
Antonio said on 14/May/09
Here is Sly with Ray Leonard. Sly has better posture here, and appears to have an 1.5" advantage. Ray was usually listed at 5-10 during his career. I was fortunate enough to spend some time with him when I was in the media. At the time I was 5-8.5, and we looked exactly eye to eye. I am positive of this, because he was my hero, and I couldn't believe he was no bigger than I was. He was in sneakers that day and he has never shown that he is a liftwearer. He is way too comfortable in his skin. On the other hand, we can assume Sly is heightening here.
Click HereAgain ... more proof that Stallone is between 5-8 and 5-9. I now believe he is between 5-8 and 5-8.5!
Antonio said on 14/May/09
I disagree, Tellem. I think Clooney is the tallest in comparison to the gentleman, pictured with them all.
I agree that Sly is the shortest. Damon & Pitt may be of very similar height, with Clooney only a little taller.
GUK said on 13/May/09
One thing to consider, if Sly were his claimed height barefoot that would make him over 6ft, probably 6ft 1 in his munsters. Why would he not claim at least 6ft?
5ft 10.5 is the best he claims,which tells me it could be his "munstered" height and he's 5ft 8 barefoot. Personally I think he's around 5ft 9 barefoot and knows people would find 6ft hard to swallow.
RisingForce said on 13/May/09
does anyone remember the scene in rocky when joe frazier appears? for frazier you hear 5-9.5 to 5-11, obviously he's more 5-9.5 and no way 5-11. but i do remember frazier in big 70's heels being similar in height to stallone who was in flat boxing shoes.
TELLEM said on 13/May/09
actually bobo pitt looks taller than all of them, stallone looks the shortest
Antonio said on 13/May/09
Got it! Thanks again Dural.
Dural said on 13/May/09
Antonio, 5-9 for Matth
bobo said on 13/May/09
Antonio
Thats a great site. according to that, Pitt, Stallone and
Matt Damon are all in the same height range. Good work. Now will someone please tell Rising Force
bam said on 12/May/09
derek d that pic is bizzarre. His entire body seems smaller, like less broad, and he looks 5'9 tops.
Brad said on 12/May/09
He'd need a small tent to cover those small houses he wore at the Rocky Balboa premiere.
Mickey said on 12/May/09
While Sly does look tall with the picture with The Rock, the Rock is helping him out a bit in posture, I don't think the Rock would be hitting 6'4"(in shoes) in that particular picture due to his posture. Sly's posture i immaculate as per usual. So i don't think its that black and white to say "the Rock is 6'3", add one inch for shoes, Sly is 3 inches shorter = 6'1"". My reasoning is that the Rock is losing height clearly in posture. But thats my opinion only.
In terms of seeing Sly at 6ft(in lifts)with Mcmahon being a stretch, will i don't think so either because:
Sly is clearly in military mode with effect, his chest is about to burst out.
McMahon's height is widely disputed, in some pics(like with 6'2" Triple H) he struggles to hit 6ft.
My findings.
Antonio said on 12/May/09
Thanks, Dural. Klinsmann (5-11) is leaning & hanging so an accurate assessment is not possible. However, the 5'8.5" Lothar Matthaus looks very close in comparison to Sly. Of course, this is assuming the heights of these 2 are accurate. I believe Lothar's listed height is 5-9, but that's his own opinion. He is probably rounding off.
If we compare that photo to others with ...
Sly - 2-2.5" shorter than the subject. (Sly is @ attention. The subject is hunched) My opinion is, this does Sly in.
Clooney - probably .5" taller than subject. (Both have similar posture here)
Pitt - .5-1" shorter than subject. Look at the Brad/Jen pic with him. Compare their postures. Brad may even be 1.5" shorter. (Pitt is straining/Subject is relaxed or leaning in both pics)
Damon - about 1-1.5" shorter than subject. (Matt is leaning, but that is a stretched lean. Subject's legs appear bent, or very relaxed)
There are others as you can see. If you can find your way around the site, there are even more.
Comparing all of this and some of the other pics on the site. I estimate the subjects height at 5-10.5.
So of course, assuming that all these were taken on level ground, I estimate the following, from height estimates from friends and everything I have found on this great website.
Sly is 5'8" to 5'8.5". Two friends both described him as my height (then 5-8.5 & now 5-8)
Clooney is 5'11" (if he stands-up straight, although he probably looks like 5-10 out on the town.
Pitt is 5'9.5" to 5-10.
Damon is 5'9" to 5-9.5".
BTW, Arnold appears 5-11.5 - 6' even. Exactly as my friend described him when he met him.
Note: If these guys are heightening (lifts) then all bets are off and I quit!
I think being that these are vacations on an island, if there was ever a time when they ARE liftless, it would be here. The outside photos are always suspect, but believe me the celebs are always looking for higher ground when it comes to this. I have been a local celeb in different parts of the country and I can attest to this.
Soviet_Rebel said on 12/May/09
Mickey: very good comparison (the one with Graham McTavish). So you say that Stallone (with massive lifts) still looks 4.5 inches shorter than a 6'3" McTavish with shoes (and i agree with you). So let's do some maths: 6'3"(190cm) - 4.5"(11,5cm) = 5'10.3"(178.5cm)...with LIFTS! So, as i said before Sly is very very VERY near to 5'7" (170cm) as Goldman wrote.
You can find Mickey's pics here:
Click Here Click HereZach: i'm pretty sure that Sly was wearing lifts (he sleeps with lifts!) and even if he wasn't, this should put Sly under 174cm Schumacher, about 172cm.
glenn said on 12/May/09
i couldve sworn rob had some
Reebok pics up here.maybe on another page.
glenn said on 12/May/09
mickey-i forgot to click on the pics rob showed.so im not sure if they were the style i wore for on and off from 1986 to 1992.yeah,barely an inch.under an inch.
glenn said on 12/May/09
wow.that pic made sense.pick my lowest height ever versus a pic from 1997 thats at 5pm,straight out of bed.where im a hair under 5-7.5 at worse.at best 5-7.5.
GUK said on 12/May/09
wow this pic really gives it away
Click HereI don't think the silly shoes were out for Schumacher though, they are similar in height. I think Sly is minimum 5ft 8 and possibly as high as 5ft 9. He needs to stop rolling up his jeans though, it just makes the platforms look more silly. He needs custom boot cuts! Mind you they ould look like 70s flares to cover those!
miko said on 12/May/09
Sly shows Arnold how tall he wants to be by 2010.
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RisingForce said on 12/May/09
thats a good pic derek, but again it's just one pic. and we can't just assume she's bending her knees. there are plenty of pics where 5-10ish doesn't make sense, but there are also plenty where 5-9ish doesn't make sense, like that full body shot of stallone and james caan i posted, or the pics where sly seems to be in converse and looks taller than 5-10 luke perry.
i also don't think you can say accurately that it's rare for him to be over 6 ft in lifts. there are comparisons to lundgren, seagal, tarver, letterman, tom arnold, jackie chan, hulk hogan, bruce willis, brigitte nielsen, michael caine, jean-claude van damme, vince mcmahon and the rock off the top of my head, where he looks like he'd measure higher than a flat 6 ft in shoes.
Dural said on 12/May/09
Antonio - the only thing I know is that Lothar Matth
derek d said on 12/May/09
This is one thing everyone should just realize that shows Sly no where close to 5'10 3/4 and closer to 5'9. If Sly was a true 5'10 3/4, with normal dress shoes he would be spot on 6 ft. Heck, even with normal shoes he would be just about 6 ft. Yet in his huge lifts he barely hits 6 ft, sometimes under, rarely a little over. Isn't that enough proof he's 5'9?
Click HereHere's Sly in normal dress shoes (lets hope to god he doesn't have even a inch of lift in them) Flavin is most likely bending her knees as always, so at least 2 inch difference between them, if not 2.5. Flavin 5'9 + 3 inch heels = 6 ft. Sly 5'9 + 1.25 inch/1.5 inch dress shoes = 5'10 1/2. That picture shows it, he would be exactly her height in those shoes if he really was 5'10 ish.
Antonio said on 12/May/09
This will get you on the site I previously mentioned.
Click HereI should of said his height is most likely 5-10 to 5-11. His posture isn't great, but these celebs might not be in lifts, since they are vacationing.
Antonio said on 12/May/09
Interesting comparisons. I don't know thed gentleman, but he has many pics with many celebs.
Click HereIf this pic doesn't work ... and it probably won't ... If not I'll follow-up with the address, but you'll have to copy and past it. Check out the site. I think the guy owns a hotel. He has numerous pics of him with many stars including: Stallone, Pitt, Clooney & Damon. The problem ... we don't know how tall the owner is. My guess is 5-10.
Brad said on 12/May/09
McTavish just owns him.
RisingForce said on 12/May/09
i forgot to add this picture of stallone and the rock, taken on the same day as one of those pictures with hogan.
Click Here the rock at 6-3, is atleast 6-4 in shoes and i can't see a 4 inch difference between him and stallone.
RisingForce said on 12/May/09
miko, just ignore hulk hogan from that picture with mcmahon and sly, he's clearly in the backround. he does look well short of 6-1 with mctavish, probably 6-0 max there, if that, but i personally find it a stretch to put him as short as 6-0 with mcmahon. on the same night he looked 3.5 inches max shorter than hulk hogan who would be near or around 6-5 in shoes.
Click Here hulk seems a bit loser to the camera(which was taken slightly from the side(hence mcmahon's advantage there. on a different night he looked 3.5 inches shorter than hogan again.
Click Here ignore mr. t in that picture, his camera advantage makes him look taller than he is. he was wearing converse sneakers and was dwarfed by hogan when he wasn't closer to the camera.
it seems that all we've proven so far is that sly is the biggest height enigma there is. there are some nights when he seems 6-0 max in huge lifts and others where he seems 6-2 in them. for someone's height to vary that much i can understand where the limb lengthening thoeries come in. that's also why i believe he's a guy who shrinks as much as 1.25" in a day. it'd make sense considering his height is all over the place.